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2364107 No.2364107 [Reply] [Original]

Why does /jp/ love youkais so much? They will gobble you up if they had the chance.

>> No.2364118

>>gobble you up

My loins are ablaze. Tell me more.

>> No.2364121

>>2364107

Same reason why /jp/ hate 3D girls

>> No.2364124
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2364124

I'm down.

>> No.2364126
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2364126

Yuka Kazami, the "most youkai youkai", would only attack you when you get on her nerves.
The only youkai who would assault you with little or no provocation are the young, naive youkai (i.e. Rumia, Wriggle) whom one could very probably fight off with basic knowledge of youkai-fighting (which every human above the age of 3 would have in Gensokyo).

>> No.2364138

Yuka looks so much my mom during her twenties.

>> No.2364139

>>2364107

/jp/ has a nasty tendency to show love and affection to things that would like nothing more than to chew on their flesh and crack their bones for the marrow.

Case in point: Rider. Highly dangerous Gorgon, but they loudly declare her their Waifu even though she would probably slash their bellies open and let their organs spill out onto the ground at first sight.

>> No.2364145

>>2364126
Except, most youkais are the "naive" youkais.

Even if the heroines have no trouble defeating them I'm pretty sure anon, as un-fit as he is, can easily be digested by the oh so adorable fairies.

>> No.2364146

>>2364126

/jp/ came to the conclusion that Wriggle could take on an entire legion of Roman Soldiers in a fight, don't troll.

>> No.2364150

>>2364139
Rider isn't evil, just misunderstood.

>> No.2364152
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2364152

I wish she gobbled me up if she had the chance.

>> No.2364154

>>2364150

That's all very well and good, but that doesn't change the fact that her preferred food is the flesh of humans.

>> No.2364160

>>2364146

1. Wriggle is canon DERP, stated by ZUN in her spell card infos.
2. That's manipulating a legion of lethal insects to overrun them. In Gensokyo, what would be the difficulty in acquiring an "insect-repelling amulet"? Probably close to nothing.

>> No.2364167

>>2364160

If we're gonna go down that route, the Romans could merely call upon Juno, Pallas, or one of the other Gods to defend them against the horde.

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2364175

I'm not sure. But they're one of the reasons why I watch Natsume Yuujinchou and its sequel.
The ones in Touhou are awesome too.

>> No.2364181

>>2364167

What's stopping them?

... What the FUCK would Juno do to help them?
And isn't Pallas a Titan?

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2364189

Well, there are plenty of humans (or close enough) to enjoy.

>> No.2364190

>>2364181

Or Jupiter. Or Vesta, or Ceres.

I imagine Juno would strike the horde of bugs with a blight, causing their antennae to wither and rendering them part-blind.

>> No.2364194
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>>2364167
We don't fear gods who spend more time humping than helping their believers.
We got our gods too.

>> No.2364195

>>2364194

Incidentally, your gods do the same thing too.

If anything, they're even worse - trying to kill visitors rather than hearing their appeals.

>> No.2364200

>>2364190

A blind bug can still sting.
Jupiter? Hit every single bug with a lightning bolt?
Vesta would probably do things like Earthquakes, which wouldn't do much.
And what would Ceres do, kill their food supply?

If ANYTHING, they'd have better chances if they recruited the Jews/proto-Christians so their OMNIPOTENT SUPERGOD can smite whatever the fuck it pleases.

>> No.2364202

Youkai don't eat humans anymore, period. Attacking them is a social custom rather more than anything. This, and their existence depends on humans fearing them - but that is actually the reason humans are under protection in Gensokyo - without them, all but the strongest youkai would probably just dissapear.

Technically, if any of us would ever find themselves in Gensokyo, he may actually get eaten if some youkai decides they're outsiders and therefore protecting their existence isn't crucial in maintaining Gensokyo's balance. If said youkai bothers to do it, that is. Most of the small fries we know aren't even really interested (Rumia thinks of it as a bother, Wriggle will only attack you if you do something bad to insects, etc...).

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2364206

>gobble you up
Feels good man.

>> No.2364216

>>2364200

Blind bugs will wander off and grow confused, allowing the legions to move forward.

You bring a good point with Ceres. After starving the bugs out, they would die and Wriggle would be left by herself.

The Hebrews can go fuck themselves, our pantheon already has this covered.

>> No.2364223

>>2364216

>Blind bugs will wander off and grow confused, allowing the legions to move forward.

Wriggle Manipulates them. At this point, we hit the greatest confusion ZUN has ever given us: what is the limit of the word "Manipulation"? Does Wriggle control EVERYTHING about the bugs? Does she just tell them what to do and acts as a commander? Are the bugs under a sort of "mind control"? Etc, etc, etc.

>You bring a good point with Ceres. After starving the bugs out, they would die and Wriggle would be left by herself.

You understand how long it takes to starve, right?

>The Hebrews can go fuck themselves, our pantheon already has this covered.

SUPERGOOOOOOOOOOOD

>> No.2364225

>>2364200

Vesta had nothing to do with Earthquakes. She tended the sacred flame of the Gods.

Hence, a Roman priest would all but need to appeal to her with a sacrifice, and she would send down wildfire amidst the bug horde. Wriggle = thoroughly fucked.

If you want Earthquakes, call upon Neptune.
He could also flood the bugs out.

>> No.2364230

>>2364223

>SUPERGOD

Jews appeal to him, but he's too apathetic to care. Hilarity ensues with the most powerful God citing "free will lol" and going off to pick flowers or something.

>> No.2364241

>>2364225

>Vesta had nothing to do with Earthquakes. She tended the sacred flame of the Gods.
>Hence, a Roman priest would all but need to appeal to her with a sacrifice, and she would send down wildfire amidst the bug horde. Wriggle = thoroughly fucked.

Ask Mokou for a few dozen Anti-Fire Charms.

>If you want Earthquakes, call upon Neptune.
>He could also flood the bugs out.

Plenty of water-faring bugs.

>>2364230

AR HAR HAR SMITING OF THE FIRSTBORNE INSECTS
Jews: wtf is YHWH doing srsly

>> No.2364260

Maybe I'm imagining it differently from you lot, but wouldn't most of these things (fires, floods, earthquakes) decimate the Romans as well?

>> No.2364265

>>2364260

Obviously their gods would shield their chosen.

However, as >>2364194 brought up, the gods might not be able to do much as they would be distracted in a pantheon war.
I wonder if Reimu's Shrine God would wake up and help out...

>> No.2364268

>>2364241
YHWH would just summon his own insects. He did it before already.

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>>2364268

I know, but presumably that would only swell Wriggle's horde, if she has no limit to the amount of bugs she can Manipulate at a single time.

>> No.2364293

>>2364265
One theory states that it was the Hakurei's Shrine God that taught Reimu how to fly due to weightlessness after she sacrificed Genjii to him in the form of delicious turtle soup.

>> No.2364301

>>2364107

Because /jp/ wants to be eaten by little girls.

>> No.2364303

>>2364293
Reimu is a good, caring person, she wouldn't do such a thing to...

...okay, who the hell am I kidding.

>> No.2364350

>>2364241

>Ask Mokou for a few dozen Anti-Fire Charms.

Appeal to Apollo the Sun God, smite bugs with sunlight.

Problem solved.

>> No.2364364

>>2364350
Just wondering.

If it's supposed to be Rome vs Wriggle and Romans get to summon the gods at will to counter each and every little thing, what's stopping Wriggle from summoning help from Gensokyo's side?

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>>2364350

Bugs hide in the grass.
Sunlight's no threat.

It's unfortunate that her power is merely "insects", and not actually "bugs", so we're forced to exclude Spiders and Scorpions and all those other glorious Arachnids.

Alternatively, Apollo would not be able to control the sun in Gensokyo, as it's not "his chariot" there. The sun in Gensokyo belongs to the Dragons.

>> No.2364394

>>2364368

There would be Twin Suns in Gensokyo, much like Tattooine from Star Wars. That would be the first sign of the pantheon's appearance.

Couple that with Vesta's ability to dry up the crops and you have no grass for the insects to hide within.

>2364364

Isn't it already a given that the Romans would have to battle the Gensokyo Pantheon? In return, they would arm themselves with their own Gods. It would be a battle royale.

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>>2364364

>what's stopping Wriggle from summoning help from Gensokyo's side?

This thing

>> No.2364455

>>2364107
I'd let them gobble me up, if you know what I mean.

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>>2364265
Hakurei Shrine god is currently powerless due to lack of faith.

>>2364350
I'm sure there are still some Time Orbs left over from IN somewhere.

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2364487

If only I could die to so noble a cause as my beloved Ran-sama's nutrition/entertainment.

>> No.2364500

>>2364487

You would make a very noble shit, I imagine.

>> No.2364507

>>2364487

How refreshing it is to see an ennobled spirit so willing to lay down his life for our glorious Touhous.

>> No.2364549

>>2364500
Lies. Youkai don't defecate. Their magical power allows them to ingest everything they eat without leaving any waste.

>> No.2364563

>>2364487
That looks like it would hurt.

A LOT.

seriously.

>> No.2364574

>>2364549

I have some doujins that disagree with you, but I shan't post 'em.

We have enough Alice scat pictures.

>> No.2364578

ITT people ignore the fact that canon says Youkai almost never eat or kidnap anybody anymore and that Gensokyo is a happy utopia where Youkai drop by the human village and drink sake at the bars.

>> No.2364593

>>2364578

The Noble youkai, like Ran, Chen, and Yukari, still partake of human flesh as it is a delicacy.

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>>2364549
>Youkai don't defecate
Is that so?

>> No.2364606
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2364606

Your insect queen disapproves of the faggotry disputing her omnipotence.

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>>2364606

Your Insect Queen had best not run afoul of me.

I have a tactical nuke of my own. Pic related.

>> No.2364656

>>2364578
Stay in the human village and you'll probably be fine.
Be prepared if you want to go into the forest.

>> No.2364661

>>2364656
You kai orgy!
FUCK YEAR!

>> No.2364690

Fuck you guys and your old Roman gods, Sol Invictus is where it's at

>> No.2364695

>>2364690

>DURR HURR I WORSHIP AN APOLLO CLONE

Fuck off, Aurelius.

>> No.2364700

>>2364394
Gensokyo's pantheon have pathetic number of believers, the Roman gods are fuelled by the belief of millions, combine that with their already impressive supernatural powers will destory the little world easily.

That been said, Son Goku is an expert at killing youkai, so who wins?

>> No.2364708

>>2364700

Hence why I said that if the Romans invaded Gensokyo, it would end with Yukari, Ran, and Chen being paraded out before Gaius Julius Caesar for his entertainment before he condemned them to death or simply made them his household slaves.

Ave Caesar.

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>>2364690

>Sol Invictus

>translates to UNCONQUERED SUN

OH WE'RE PLAYING EXALTED NOW?

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>>2364700

What would Son Goku have against the good people of Gensokyo?

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2364716

I'd just like to interject for a moment.

Something important has been missed in this thread.

Vampires aren't youkai.

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>>2364716

Yes they are.

They're just a rare, powerful type of Youkai.

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>>2364709
Touhou Exalted? Sounds about right.

>> No.2364726

>>2364708
Caesar? Ha! We all know how Zeus/Jupiter is like, he'll pick up the good-looking ones and leave the uggos to the Romans, prob citing some bullshit like "I did all the work lol".

>> No.2364731

>>2364723
[citation needed]

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>>2364731

http://touhou.wikia.com/wiki/Perfect_Memento:_Encyclopedia:_Vampire

>> No.2364744

>>2364700
The majority of Gensokyo's strongest beings are youkai. They don't feed on belief. They feed on fear.

One well-aimed display of power and the entire Roman army pisses their collective pants, pretty much evening the "belief" factor.

>> No.2364748

>>2364726

Juno would rapidly beat some sense back into him, since she's a hugely jealous bitch.

That wouldn't stop Jupiter from raping the choicest of Touhous, though. And he'd probably snatch up the Goddess of the Touhou universe...if he could hide them from Juno long enough.

>> No.2364751

>>2364735
I'm willing to bet that's a poor translation. At first, it says they're among new types of youkai, later, it says that they fought against then formed a contract with youkai. Not very consistent.

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>>2364748

>And he'd probably snatch up the Goddess of the Touhou universe

DEATH PENALTY DEATH PENALTY DEATH PENALTY!

>> No.2364757

>>2364751

Probably referring to the older Youkai that have been there longer.

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>>2364735

>> No.2364766

>>2364751

http://touhou.wikia.com/wiki/Youkai
>The term can also apply broadly to anything that is a supernatural being or legend, from any culture.

I think that includes vampires.

>> No.2364767

>>2364751

妖怪.
You-Kai.

And Vampires are new to Gensokyo. They struck a deal to the ones that were already there and in relations with humans.

>> No.2364769

>>2364744
The Romans have no fear with their Gods present, why would they? They fought in bitter odds before in history, facing superior numbers and untamed fearsome "barbarians", they still held their ground, their belief in victory and their gods are strong.

>> No.2364773

>>2364748

Use the Greek names you damned Romaboo.

>> No.2364775

>>2364753

Hades closes the underworld for a while, rendering Siki's punishments useless. No one can die and madness ensues.

>>2364744

In their fear, they would pray to their own Gods. Way to strengthen their Pantheon even more.

>> No.2364777

>>2364769

We have to figure out what age of Rome this is.

I think you're seeing it from under, say, Augustus Caesar.

>> No.2364780

>>2364773

We are talking about the Romans in particular, not the Grecians.

>> No.2364786

>>2364777

We are assuming that this is the Roman Empire under Julius Caesar.

>> No.2364787

>>2364780

The Romans co-opted the entire pantheon!

>> No.2364791

Oh hi!

>> No.2364795
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>>2364775

>Hades closes the underworld for a while, rendering Siki's punishments useless. No one can die and madness ensues.

... What.

There's a LOT of Hells and Heavens, brah. Jigoku, Yomi, the Hell of Burning Fires, Celestial's Heaven, and Hakugokuro, to name a few. Pluto only manages Hades.
Death is managed in Gensokyo by the Shinigami. Fuck, even if Pluto sacked Charon, Komachi manages the River in Gensokyo.

... Makes me wonder if Komachi and Charon are friends.

>> No.2364796

>>2364753
Send Gods to the underworld? You can try.

>> No.2364801

>>2364796
Hi

>> No.2364808

>>2364801

You were imprisoned for being a douche, not sent to the underworld.

>> No.2364809

>>2364801
Go rump a goat or something, this fight doesn't involve you.

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>>2364796

Yama are believed (at least in fanon) to be the supreme impartial judges, ruling over even gods so as to avoid full-on pantheon wars (which would universally result in a lot of Armageddons) like the ones discussed in this thread.

>> No.2364822

>>2364816

>Yama are believed (at least in fanon)

That's all I need to eliminate Siki's position. Fanon = no. We could very well say that the Fanon dictates that Reimu is fourteen feet high and able to obliterate building with her icy breath.

Fanon is always nonsensical.

>> No.2364826

>>2364816
>fanon
FAIL

>> No.2364832

>>2364822
But the entire Roman mythology is fanon, too.

>> No.2364834

>>2364822
>>2364826

samefaggot

>> No.2364838

>>2364822

Well maybe if someone would FUCKING TRANSLATE THE YAMA ARTICLE IN PMiSS

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>>2364801

>> No.2364846

>>2364832

Fuck no. The Roman mythos was set in stone long before ZUN touched his first beer.

>> No.2364847

If we are discussing about Yama, then we are discussing about religions as in all religions, there always be the judge for the departed.

And those in context can be said in one of the term as the Yama.

so, which Yama to be used in sake for argument?

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>>2364847

Shikieiki Yamaxanadu is the holder of the position Yama of Gensokyo.

For her perspective, we're using ZUN's mythos.

>> No.2364856

An uncreated creation lord can destory everyone else, whether supernatural/god/godlike, since they're the root of contradiction (can it create a rock that even he could not lift, well it can't since all his creations are lesser than him, therefore it's stronger than all of it's creations) e.g. God, Allah, Ahura Mazda etc.

The only thing that needs to be checked is whether the Roman/Greco mythos contains such a God.

>> No.2364860

>>2364846

Set in stone ...
...
...
by fans of the religion.

It's fanon, tripfaggot.

>> No.2364861

>>2364578

ITT people ignore the fact that youkai routinely send hunting parties into the outside world to catch and cook humans.

>> No.2364865

>>2364856

Could Jesus create a taco so hot that even he could not eat it?

>> No.2364866

>>2364856

No, it doesn't.

At best, primordial Titans (Gaia, Nyx, Khronos) or the extremely undefined entity "Chaos" would come close, but they're not omnipotent.

>> No.2364868

>>2364860
>I MUST DEFEND MY FALSE DIETIES
If you want to argue technicalities, then everything ZUN writes is still fanon since it's doujin work.

>> No.2364869

>>2364860

By the priests and the original sources of the religion, you fucking retard.

My God, you're a dense bastard. Some historians didn't go and make up the Roman Pantheons for fun and profit, in case you didn't know.

>> No.2364870

>>2364861

There are few threats to humans' lives, and they can have peaceful duels whenever they please.

Youkai extermination continues in name only, and abductions are only carried out for show.

These peaceful, yet stimulating times are surely a golden age for humans and youkai alike.

There's no doubt that Gensokyo has become the way it is thanks to the isolation brought about by the Great Hakurei Barrier.

About the time humans outside began to become more powerful and deny the existence of youkai, Gensokyo was already in danger of destruction(*3).

The solution endorsed by the sage of the youkai was to isolate Gensokyo using a great magical barrier.

This barrier is the so-called barrier of common sense and the nonsensical.

This barrier kept the outside world's common sense outside, leaving what defied that common sense inside, in Gensokyo.

>> No.2364873

>>2364866

Interestingly enough, you can't pray to the Titans.

So we need not worry about them mucking up the works.

>> No.2364874

>>2364869

Most pagan religions were created over time through lore and legend, not by some "original source" or some group of priests.

But feel free to bask in your horrifically incorrect knowledge of history if you want.

>> No.2364879

>>2364866
The pantheon are children of the Titans, so they're at equal level to the Titans, but not stronger than the Chaos, makes sense.

>> No.2364881

>>2364873

You can swear oaths to the Titans, but this is considered extremely binding and dangerous.

Titans are NOT allies to humans.

>> No.2364887

>>2364874
What are you trying to prove?

There is a difference between fictional diety in a fictional world and fictional diety in this reality.

>> No.2364891

>>2364874

We are discussing the Roman Pantheon, not pagan religions, troll.

The same one that was subsidized by oracles and priests, who laid down the definitions of the Gods, a 'canon' if you will.

Troll harder.

>> No.2364905

>>2364891

Roman Pantheon = pagan religion

>> No.2364909

>>2364368
I'm pretty sure 虫 includes spiders and scorpions as well.

>> No.2364920

>>2364905

Indeed, but we are discussing a State religion, not the earlier cults and mysteries that were propagated by small sects.

Technically you could still call it a Pagan religion, but at the point where the Empire has helped to propagate it and built temples to it - canonized it even - then that removes it from the nebulous world of most Pagan religions and establishes a -canon- of which you can reference.

So, you are correct. But that does not eliminate the earlier Anon's nonsensical statement that the Roman Gods had no canon.

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This may be off topic. But being a Yama for humans must make Siki one of the most jaded mother fuckers in the multiverse, save for the yama of say... an area like New York or some shithole in Africa.

Think of it, murders, rape, abuses and transgressions of all kinds, and then having to send people to Hell or Heaven.

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>>2364922

Why would she be jaded?

She gets to give the proverbial scum their true Justice. She shows the sinners their sins, and then she's the only person in the universe that gets to tell them that "it's too late to repent".

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>>2364938

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>>2364107
>Why does /jp/ love youkais so much? They will gobble you up if they had the chance.

I'll hunt and eat them instead.
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>> No.2365182
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>>2365167
"In ancient times...
During times that are close to prehistory.

Those who called themselves warriors ate the
meat and blood of those who they defeated.

By eating enemy warriors and gigantic carnavours
they were able to proclaim their strength
and at the same time, they wanted to take in the
strength they had into their own."

>> No.2365221

Funny...Japan as a nation didn't exist during the time of Julius Caesar.

>> No.2365261
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I don't think that invading Gensokyo is such a neat idea...

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