Why does /jp/ love youkais so much? They will gobble you up if they had the chance.

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紅美鈴 !!UZfQuE2c0TO Sat Apr 4 01:27:45 2009 No.2364107 [Reply] [Original]

Why does /jp/ love youkais so much? They will gobble you up if they had the chance.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 01:29:45 2009 No.2364118 >>gobble you up My loins are ablaze. Tell me more.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 01:30:45 2009 No.2364121 >>2364107 Same reason why /jp/ hate 3D girls

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 01:31:45 2009 No.2364124 File: 539 KB, 848x1199, swalot.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I'm down.

Anonymous Sat Apr 4 01:31:45 2009 No.2364126
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Yuka Kazami, the "most youkai youkai", would only attack you when you get on her nerves.
The only youkai who would assault you with little or no provocation are the young, naive youkai (i.e. Rumia, Wriggle) whom one could very probably fight off with basic knowledge of youkai-fighting (which every human above the age of 3 would have in Gensokyo).

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 01:33:45 2009 No.2364138 Yuka looks so much my mom during her twenties.

Arcueid Brunestud !ARCIkc4cG6 Sat Apr 4 01:34:45 2009 No.2364139

>>2364107

/jp/ has a nasty tendency to show love and affection to things that would like nothing more than to chew on their flesh and crack their bones for the marrow.

Case in point: Rider. Highly dangerous Gorgon, but they loudly declare her their Waifu even though she would probably slash their bellies open and let their organs spill out onto the ground at first sight.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 01:35:45 2009 No.2364145 >>2364126 Except, most youkais are the "naive" youkais. Even if the heroines have no trouble defeating them I'm pretty sure anon, as un-fit as he is, can easily be digested by the oh so adorable fairies.

>>	Arcueid Brunestud !ARCIkc4cG6 Sat Apr 4 01:36:45 2009 No.2364146 >>2364126 /jp/ came to the conclusion that Wriggle could take on an entire legion of Roman Soldiers in a fight, don't troll.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 01:36:45 2009 No.2364150 >>2364139 Rider isn't evil, just misunderstood.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 01:37:45 2009 No.2364152 File: 13 KB, 206x125, 1219341028921.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I wish she gobbled me up if she had the chance.

>>	Arcueid Brunestud !ARCIkc4cG6 Sat Apr 4 01:37:45 2009 No.2364154 >>2364150 That's all very well and good, but that doesn't change the fact that her preferred food is the flesh of humans.

Anonymous Sat Apr 4 01:39:45 2009 No.2364160

>>2364146

1. Wriggle is canon DERP, stated by ZUN in her spell card infos.
2. That's manipulating a legion of lethal insects to overrun them. In Gensokyo, what would be the difficulty in acquiring an "insect-repelling amulet"? Probably close to nothing.

>>	Arcueid Brunestud !ARCIkc4cG6 Sat Apr 4 01:41:45 2009 No.2364167 >>2364160 If we're gonna go down that route, the Romans could merely call upon Juno, Pallas, or one of the other Gods to defend them against the horde.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 01:43:45 2009 No.2364175 File: 49 KB, 704x396, fabulousness.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I'm not sure. But they're one of the reasons why I watch Natsume Yuujinchou and its sequel. The ones in Touhou are awesome too.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 01:44:45 2009 No.2364181 >>2364167 What's stopping them? ... What the FUCK would Juno do to help them? And isn't Pallas a Titan?

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 01:47:45 2009 No.2364189 File: 80 KB, 500x580, da73276f6ad3f0fb1a2ddeafbbe26c04af8fcb5f.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Well, there are plenty of humans (or close enough) to enjoy.

>>	Arcueid Brunestud !ARCIkc4cG6 Sat Apr 4 01:47:45 2009 No.2364190 >>2364181 Or Jupiter. Or Vesta, or Ceres. I imagine Juno would strike the horde of bugs with a blight, causing their antennae to wither and rendering them part-blind.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 01:48:45 2009 No.2364194 File: 132 KB, 525x700, 4259_suwako_moriya.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2364167 We don't fear gods who spend more time humping than helping their believers. We got our gods too.

>>	Arcueid Brunestud !ARCIkc4cG6 Sat Apr 4 01:49:45 2009 No.2364195 >>2364194 Incidentally, your gods do the same thing too. If anything, they're even worse - trying to kill visitors rather than hearing their appeals.

Anonymous Sat Apr 4 01:50:45 2009 No.2364200

>>2364190

A blind bug can still sting.
Jupiter? Hit every single bug with a lightning bolt?
Vesta would probably do things like Earthquakes, which wouldn't do much.
And what would Ceres do, kill their food supply?

If ANYTHING, they'd have better chances if they recruited the Jews/proto-Christians so their OMNIPOTENT SUPERGOD can smite whatever the fuck it pleases.

Anonymous Sat Apr 4 01:50:45 2009 No.2364202

Youkai don't eat humans anymore, period. Attacking them is a social custom rather more than anything. This, and their existence depends on humans fearing them - but that is actually the reason humans are under protection in Gensokyo - without them, all but the strongest youkai would probably just dissapear.

Technically, if any of us would ever find themselves in Gensokyo, he may actually get eaten if some youkai decides they're outsiders and therefore protecting their existence isn't crucial in maintaining Gensokyo's balance. If said youkai bothers to do it, that is. Most of the small fries we know aren't even really interested (Rumia thinks of it as a bother, Wriggle will only attack you if you do something bad to insects, etc...).

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 01:50:45 2009 No.2364206 File: 745 KB, 700x904, remi2c.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >gobble you up Feels good man.

Arcueid Brunestud !ARCIkc4cG6 Sat Apr 4 01:52:45 2009 No.2364216

>>2364200

Blind bugs will wander off and grow confused, allowing the legions to move forward.

You bring a good point with Ceres. After starving the bugs out, they would die and Wriggle would be left by herself.

The Hebrews can go fuck themselves, our pantheon already has this covered.

Anonymous Sat Apr 4 01:55:45 2009 No.2364223

>>2364216

>Blind bugs will wander off and grow confused, allowing the legions to move forward.

Wriggle Manipulates them. At this point, we hit the greatest confusion ZUN has ever given us: what is the limit of the word "Manipulation"? Does Wriggle control EVERYTHING about the bugs? Does she just tell them what to do and acts as a commander? Are the bugs under a sort of "mind control"? Etc, etc, etc.

>You bring a good point with Ceres. After starving the bugs out, they would die and Wriggle would be left by herself.

You understand how long it takes to starve, right?

>The Hebrews can go fuck themselves, our pantheon already has this covered.

SUPERGOOOOOOOOOOOD

Arcueid Brunestud !ARCIkc4cG6 Sat Apr 4 01:55:45 2009 No.2364225

>>2364200

Vesta had nothing to do with Earthquakes. She tended the sacred flame of the Gods.

Hence, a Roman priest would all but need to appeal to her with a sacrifice, and she would send down wildfire amidst the bug horde. Wriggle = thoroughly fucked.

If you want Earthquakes, call upon Neptune.
He could also flood the bugs out.

>>	Arcueid Brunestud !ARCIkc4cG6 Sat Apr 4 01:57:45 2009 No.2364230 >>2364223 >SUPERGOD Jews appeal to him, but he's too apathetic to care. Hilarity ensues with the most powerful God citing "free will lol" and going off to pick flowers or something.

Anonymous Sat Apr 4 01:58:45 2009 No.2364241

>>2364225

>Vesta had nothing to do with Earthquakes. She tended the sacred flame of the Gods.
>Hence, a Roman priest would all but need to appeal to her with a sacrifice, and she would send down wildfire amidst the bug horde. Wriggle = thoroughly fucked.

Ask Mokou for a few dozen Anti-Fire Charms.

>If you want Earthquakes, call upon Neptune.
>He could also flood the bugs out.

Plenty of water-faring bugs.

>>2364230

AR HAR HAR SMITING OF THE FIRSTBORNE INSECTS
Jews: wtf is YHWH doing srsly

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 02:02:45 2009 No.2364260 Maybe I'm imagining it differently from you lot, but wouldn't most of these things (fires, floods, earthquakes) decimate the Romans as well?

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 02:03:45 2009 No.2364265 >>2364260 Obviously their gods would shield their chosen. However, as >>2364194 brought up, the gods might not be able to do much as they would be distracted in a pantheon war. I wonder if Reimu's Shrine God would wake up and help out...

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 02:04:45 2009 No.2364268 >>2364241 YHWH would just summon his own insects. He did it before already.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 02:07:45 2009 No.2364281 File: 1.39 MB, 2000x1500, 1221262536642.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2364268 I know, but presumably that would only swell Wriggle's horde, if she has no limit to the amount of bugs she can Manipulate at a single time.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 02:11:45 2009 No.2364293 >>2364265 One theory states that it was the Hakurei's Shrine God that taught Reimu how to fly due to weightlessness after she sacrificed Genjii to him in the form of delicious turtle soup.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 02:14:45 2009 No.2364301 >>2364107 Because /jp/ wants to be eaten by little girls.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 02:14:45 2009 No.2364303 >>2364293 Reimu is a good, caring person, she wouldn't do such a thing to... ...okay, who the hell am I kidding.

>>	Arcueid Brunestud !ARCIkc4cG6 Sat Apr 4 02:30:45 2009 No.2364350 >>2364241 >Ask Mokou for a few dozen Anti-Fire Charms. Appeal to Apollo the Sun God, smite bugs with sunlight. Problem solved.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 02:32:45 2009 No.2364364 >>2364350 Just wondering. If it's supposed to be Rome vs Wriggle and Romans get to summon the gods at will to counter each and every little thing, what's stopping Wriggle from summoning help from Gensokyo's side?

Anonymous Sat Apr 4 02:33:45 2009 No.2364368
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>>2364350

Bugs hide in the grass.
Sunlight's no threat.

It's unfortunate that her power is merely "insects", and not actually "bugs", so we're forced to exclude Spiders and Scorpions and all those other glorious Arachnids.

Alternatively, Apollo would not be able to control the sun in Gensokyo, as it's not "his chariot" there. The sun in Gensokyo belongs to the Dragons.

Arcueid Brunestud !ARCIkc4cG6 Sat Apr 4 02:38:45 2009 No.2364394

>>2364368

There would be Twin Suns in Gensokyo, much like Tattooine from Star Wars. That would be the first sign of the pantheon's appearance.

Couple that with Vesta's ability to dry up the crops and you have no grass for the insects to hide within.

>2364364

Isn't it already a given that the Romans would have to battle the Gensokyo Pantheon? In return, they would arm themselves with their own Gods. It would be a battle royale.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 02:41:45 2009 No.2364409 File: 55 KB, 493x439, Wriggle TRAP.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2364364 >what's stopping Wriggle from summoning help from Gensokyo's side? This thing

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 02:51:45 2009 No.2364455 >>2364107 I'd let them gobble me up, if you know what I mean.

Anonymous Sat Apr 4 02:57:45 2009 No.2364480
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>>2364265
Hakurei Shrine god is currently powerless due to lack of faith.

>>2364350
I'm sure there are still some Time Orbs left over from IN somewhere.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 03:00:45 2009 No.2364487 File: 246 KB, 604x850, 1219282580950.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] If only I could die to so noble a cause as my beloved Ran-sama's nutrition/entertainment.

>>	Arcueid Brunestud !ARCIkc4cG6 Sat Apr 4 03:05:45 2009 No.2364500 >>2364487 You would make a very noble shit, I imagine.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 03:07:45 2009 No.2364507 >>2364487 How refreshing it is to see an ennobled spirit so willing to lay down his life for our glorious Touhous.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 03:19:45 2009 No.2364549 >>2364500 Lies. Youkai don't defecate. Their magical power allows them to ingest everything they eat without leaving any waste.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 03:21:45 2009 No.2364563 >>2364487 That looks like it would hurt. A LOT. seriously.

>>	Arcueid Brunestud !ARCIkc4cG6 Sat Apr 4 03:23:45 2009 No.2364574 >>2364549 I have some doujins that disagree with you, but I shan't post 'em. We have enough Alice scat pictures.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 03:24:45 2009 No.2364578 ITT people ignore the fact that canon says Youkai almost never eat or kidnap anybody anymore and that Gensokyo is a happy utopia where Youkai drop by the human village and drink sake at the bars.

>>	Arcueid Brunestud !ARCIkc4cG6 Sat Apr 4 03:27:45 2009 No.2364593 >>2364578 The Noble youkai, like Ran, Chen, and Yukari, still partake of human flesh as it is a delicacy.

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>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 03:29:45 2009 No.2364605 File: 336 KB, 520x720, 1217336688799.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2364549 >Youkai don't defecate Is that so?

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 03:29:45 2009 No.2364606 File: 245 KB, 581x871, queenwriggle1.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Your insect queen disapproves of the faggotry disputing her omnipotence.

>>	Arcueid Brunestud !ARCIkc4cG6 Sat Apr 4 03:33:45 2009 No.2364623 File: 10 KB, 97x210, 4fb3f8b0ef235baff89fbc46951d162ce0a18856.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2364606 Your Insect Queen had best not run afoul of me. I have a tactical nuke of my own. Pic related.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 03:41:45 2009 No.2364656 >>2364578 Stay in the human village and you'll probably be fine. Be prepared if you want to go into the forest.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 03:44:45 2009 No.2364661 >>2364656 You kai orgy! FUCK YEAR!

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 03:52:45 2009 No.2364690 Fuck you guys and your old Roman gods, Sol Invictus is where it's at

>>	Arcueid Brunestud !ARCIkc4cG6 Sat Apr 4 03:53:45 2009 No.2364695 >>2364690 >DURR HURR I WORSHIP AN APOLLO CLONE Fuck off, Aurelius.

Anonymous Sat Apr 4 03:53:45 2009 No.2364700

>>2364394
Gensokyo's pantheon have pathetic number of believers, the Roman gods are fuelled by the belief of millions, combine that with their already impressive supernatural powers will destory the little world easily.

That been said, Son Goku is an expert at killing youkai, so who wins?

Arcueid Brunestud !ARCIkc4cG6 Sat Apr 4 03:56:45 2009 No.2364708

>>2364700

Hence why I said that if the Romans invaded Gensokyo, it would end with Yukari, Ran, and Chen being paraded out before Gaius Julius Caesar for his entertainment before he condemned them to death or simply made them his household slaves.

Ave Caesar.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 03:56:45 2009 No.2364709 File: 285 KB, 1000x760, exalt.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2364690 >Sol Invictus >translates to UNCONQUERED SUN OH WE'RE PLAYING EXALTED NOW?

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 03:57:45 2009 No.2364715 File: 168 KB, 500x700, 1238788719207.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2364700 What would Son Goku have against the good people of Gensokyo?

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 03:57:45 2009 No.2364716 File: 100 KB, 929x1259, 2681570.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I'd just like to interject for a moment. Something important has been missed in this thread. Vampires aren't youkai.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 04:00:45 2009 No.2364723 File: 325 KB, 1024x1023, 1980372.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2364716 Yes they are. They're just a rare, powerful type of Youkai.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 04:00:45 2009 No.2364724 File: 1.20 MB, 2094x1500, wriggle_vs_sdm_022-023.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2364709 Touhou Exalted? Sounds about right.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 04:01:45 2009 No.2364726 >>2364708 Caesar? Ha! We all know how Zeus/Jupiter is like, he'll pick up the good-looking ones and leave the uggos to the Romans, prob citing some bullshit like "I did all the work lol".

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 04:02:45 2009 No.2364731 >>2364723 [citation needed]

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 04:04:45 2009 No.2364735 File: 36 KB, 600x600, 4454_alice_margatroid.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2364731 http://touhou.wikia.com/wiki/Perfect_Memento:_Encyclopedia:_Vampire

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 04:06:45 2009 No.2364744 >>2364700 The majority of Gensokyo's strongest beings are youkai. They don't feed on belief. They feed on fear. One well-aimed display of power and the entire Roman army pisses their collective pants, pretty much evening the "belief" factor.

Arcueid Brunestud !ARCIkc4cG6 Sat Apr 4 04:07:45 2009 No.2364748

>>2364726

Juno would rapidly beat some sense back into him, since she's a hugely jealous bitch.

That wouldn't stop Jupiter from raping the choicest of Touhous, though. And he'd probably snatch up the Goddess of the Touhou universe...if he could hide them from Juno long enough.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 04:08:45 2009 No.2364751 >>2364735 I'm willing to bet that's a poor translation. At first, it says they're among new types of youkai, later, it says that they fought against then formed a contract with youkai. Not very consistent.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 04:08:45 2009 No.2364753 File: 387 KB, 1600x1200, cd7a67d562c5bc19a3050d3c5fa8e747.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2364748 >And he'd probably snatch up the Goddess of the Touhou universe DEATH PENALTY DEATH PENALTY DEATH PENALTY!

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 04:09:45 2009 No.2364757 >>2364751 Probably referring to the older Youkai that have been there longer.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 04:10:45 2009 No.2364763 File: 19 KB, 470x495, 1232661966050uu3.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2364735

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 04:10:45 2009 No.2364766 >>2364751 http://touhou.wikia.com/wiki/Youkai >The term can also apply broadly to anything that is a supernatural being or legend, from any culture. I think that includes vampires.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 04:10:45 2009 No.2364767 >>2364751 妖怪. You-Kai. And Vampires are new to Gensokyo. They struck a deal to the ones that were already there and in relations with humans.

Anonymous Sat Apr 4 04:10:45 2009 No.2364769

>>2364744
The Romans have no fear with their Gods present, why would they? They fought in bitter odds before in history, facing superior numbers and untamed fearsome "barbarians", they still held their ground, their belief in victory and their gods are strong.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 04:11:45 2009 No.2364773 >>2364748 Use the Greek names you damned Romaboo.

>>	Arcueid Brunestud !ARCIkc4cG6 Sat Apr 4 04:12:45 2009 No.2364775 >>2364753 Hades closes the underworld for a while, rendering Siki's punishments useless. No one can die and madness ensues. >>2364744 In their fear, they would pray to their own Gods. Way to strengthen their Pantheon even more.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 04:12:45 2009 No.2364777 >>2364769 We have to figure out what age of Rome this is. I think you're seeing it from under, say, Augustus Caesar.

>>	Arcueid Brunestud !ARCIkc4cG6 Sat Apr 4 04:13:45 2009 No.2364780 >>2364773 We are talking about the Romans in particular, not the Grecians.

>>	Arcueid Brunestud !ARCIkc4cG6 Sat Apr 4 04:14:45 2009 No.2364786 >>2364777 We are assuming that this is the Roman Empire under Julius Caesar.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 04:14:45 2009 No.2364787 >>2364780 The Romans co-opted the entire pantheon!

>>	Attila Sat Apr 4 04:15:45 2009 No.2364791 Oh hi!

Anonymous Sat Apr 4 04:16:45 2009 No.2364795
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>>2364775

>Hades closes the underworld for a while, rendering Siki's punishments useless. No one can die and madness ensues.

... What.

There's a LOT of Hells and Heavens, brah. Jigoku, Yomi, the Hell of Burning Fires, Celestial's Heaven, and Hakugokuro, to name a few. Pluto only manages Hades.
Death is managed in Gensokyo by the Shinigami. Fuck, even if Pluto sacked Charon, Komachi manages the River in Gensokyo.

... Makes me wonder if Komachi and Charon are friends.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 04:16:45 2009 No.2364796 >>2364753 Send Gods to the underworld? You can try.

>>	Loki Sat Apr 4 04:17:45 2009 No.2364801 >>2364796 Hi

>>	Arcueid Brunestud !ARCIkc4cG6 Sat Apr 4 04:18:45 2009 No.2364808 >>2364801 You were imprisoned for being a douche, not sent to the underworld.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 04:18:45 2009 No.2364809 >>2364801 Go rump a goat or something, this fight doesn't involve you.

Anonymous Sat Apr 4 04:20:45 2009 No.2364816
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>>2364796

Yama are believed (at least in fanon) to be the supreme impartial judges, ruling over even gods so as to avoid full-on pantheon wars (which would universally result in a lot of Armageddons) like the ones discussed in this thread.

Arcueid Brunestud !ARCIkc4cG6 Sat Apr 4 04:22:45 2009 No.2364822

>>2364816

>Yama are believed (at least in fanon)

That's all I need to eliminate Siki's position. Fanon = no. We could very well say that the Fanon dictates that Reimu is fourteen feet high and able to obliterate building with her icy breath.

Fanon is always nonsensical.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 04:23:45 2009 No.2364826 >>2364816 >fanon FAIL

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 04:25:45 2009 No.2364832 >>2364822 But the entire Roman mythology is fanon, too.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 04:25:45 2009 No.2364834 >>2364822 >>2364826 samefaggot

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 04:27:45 2009 No.2364838 >>2364822 Well maybe if someone would FUCKING TRANSLATE THE YAMA ARTICLE IN PMiSS

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 04:27:45 2009 No.2364841 File: 101 KB, 552x259, sgvy-e11-i3-p5.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2364801

>>	Arcueid Brunestud !ARCIkc4cG6 Sat Apr 4 04:28:45 2009 No.2364846 >>2364832 Fuck no. The Roman mythos was set in stone long before ZUN touched his first beer.

Ararara... !3GqYIJ3Obs Sat Apr 4 04:28:45 2009 No.2364847

If we are discussing about Yama, then we are discussing about religions as in all religions, there always be the judge for the departed.

And those in context can be said in one of the term as the Yama.

so, which Yama to be used in sake for argument?

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 04:30:45 2009 No.2364855 File: 186 KB, 800x400, 1c145d87d3b5af3bd15fb4d12a67a5fb.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2364847 Shikieiki Yamaxanadu is the holder of the position Yama of Gensokyo. For her perspective, we're using ZUN's mythos.

Anonymous Sat Apr 4 04:31:45 2009 No.2364856

An uncreated creation lord can destory everyone else, whether supernatural/god/godlike, since they're the root of contradiction (can it create a rock that even he could not lift, well it can't since all his creations are lesser than him, therefore it's stronger than all of it's creations) e.g. God, Allah, Ahura Mazda etc.

The only thing that needs to be checked is whether the Roman/Greco mythos contains such a God.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 04:32:45 2009 No.2364860 >>2364846 Set in stone ... ... ... by fans of the religion. It's fanon, tripfaggot.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 04:32:45 2009 No.2364861 >>2364578 ITT people ignore the fact that youkai routinely send hunting parties into the outside world to catch and cook humans.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 04:33:45 2009 No.2364865 >>2364856 Could Jesus create a taco so hot that even he could not eat it?

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 04:33:45 2009 No.2364866 >>2364856 No, it doesn't. At best, primordial Titans (Gaia, Nyx, Khronos) or the extremely undefined entity "Chaos" would come close, but they're not omnipotent.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 04:34:45 2009 No.2364868 >>2364860 >I MUST DEFEND MY FALSE DIETIES If you want to argue technicalities, then everything ZUN writes is still fanon since it's doujin work.

>>	Arcueid Brunestud !ARCIkc4cG6 Sat Apr 4 04:34:45 2009 No.2364869 >>2364860 By the priests and the original sources of the religion, you fucking retard. My God, you're a dense bastard. Some historians didn't go and make up the Roman Pantheons for fun and profit, in case you didn't know.

Anonymous Sat Apr 4 04:35:45 2009 No.2364870

>>2364861

There are few threats to humans' lives, and they can have peaceful duels whenever they please.

Youkai extermination continues in name only, and abductions are only carried out for show.

These peaceful, yet stimulating times are surely a golden age for humans and youkai alike.

There's no doubt that Gensokyo has become the way it is thanks to the isolation brought about by the Great Hakurei Barrier.

About the time humans outside began to become more powerful and deny the existence of youkai, Gensokyo was already in danger of destruction(*3).

The solution endorsed by the sage of the youkai was to isolate Gensokyo using a great magical barrier.

This barrier is the so-called barrier of common sense and the nonsensical.

This barrier kept the outside world's common sense outside, leaving what defied that common sense inside, in Gensokyo.

>>	Arcueid Brunestud !ARCIkc4cG6 Sat Apr 4 04:35:45 2009 No.2364873 >>2364866 Interestingly enough, you can't pray to the Titans. So we need not worry about them mucking up the works.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 04:36:45 2009 No.2364874 >>2364869 Most pagan religions were created over time through lore and legend, not by some "original source" or some group of priests. But feel free to bask in your horrifically incorrect knowledge of history if you want.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 04:37:45 2009 No.2364879 >>2364866 The pantheon are children of the Titans, so they're at equal level to the Titans, but not stronger than the Chaos, makes sense.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 04:38:45 2009 No.2364881 >>2364873 You can swear oaths to the Titans, but this is considered extremely binding and dangerous. Titans are NOT allies to humans.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 04:40:45 2009 No.2364887 >>2364874 What are you trying to prove? There is a difference between fictional diety in a fictional world and fictional diety in this reality.

>>	Arcueid Brunestud !ARCIkc4cG6 Sat Apr 4 04:40:45 2009 No.2364891 >>2364874 We are discussing the Roman Pantheon, not pagan religions, troll. The same one that was subsidized by oracles and priests, who laid down the definitions of the Gods, a 'canon' if you will. Troll harder.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 04:43:45 2009 No.2364905 >>2364891 Roman Pantheon = pagan religion

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 04:44:45 2009 No.2364909 >>2364368 I'm pretty sure 虫 includes spiders and scorpions as well.

Arcueid Brunestud !ARCIkc4cG6 Sat Apr 4 04:48:45 2009 No.2364920

>>2364905

Indeed, but we are discussing a State religion, not the earlier cults and mysteries that were propagated by small sects.

Technically you could still call it a Pagan religion, but at the point where the Empire has helped to propagate it and built temples to it - canonized it even - then that removes it from the nebulous world of most Pagan religions and establishes a -canon- of which you can reference.

So, you are correct. But that does not eliminate the earlier Anon's nonsensical statement that the Roman Gods had no canon.

Anonymous Sat Apr 4 04:48:45 2009 No.2364922
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This may be off topic. But being a Yama for humans must make Siki one of the most jaded mother fuckers in the multiverse, save for the yama of say... an area like New York or some shithole in Africa.

Think of it, murders, rape, abuses and transgressions of all kinds, and then having to send people to Hell or Heaven.

Anonymous Sat Apr 4 04:53:45 2009 No.2364938
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>>2364922

Why would she be jaded?

She gets to give the proverbial scum their true Justice. She shows the sinners their sins, and then she's the only person in the universe that gets to tell them that "it's too late to repent".

>>	Arcueid Brunestud !ARCIkc4cG6 Sat Apr 4 04:57:01 2009 No.2364947 File: 181 KB, 600x600, 4fb3f8b0ef235baff89fbc46951d162ce0a18856.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2364938

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 05:06:45 2009 No.2364981 File: 11 KB, 131x225, 1227323721344.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2364947

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 06:08:45 2009 No.2365167 File: 249 KB, 762x1200, 15.png.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2364107 ＞Why does /jp/ love youkais so much? They will gobble you up if they had the chance. I'll hunt and eat them instead. <-- pic related

Anonymous Sat Apr 4 06:15:45 2009 No.2365182
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>>2365167
"In ancient times...
During times that are close to prehistory.

Those who called themselves warriors ate the
meat and blood of those who they defeated.

By eating enemy warriors and gigantic carnavours
they were able to proclaim their strength
and at the same time, they wanted to take in the
strength they had into their own."

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 06:31:45 2009 No.2365221 Funny...Japan as a nation didn't exist during the time of Julius Caesar.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 06:44:45 2009 No.2365261 File: 127 KB, 951x428, Tenshi's Family.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I don't think that invading Gensokyo is such a neat idea...

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