So I hear Yukari stopped by the Iowa Supreme Court this morning. I hope she comes back to California, soon.

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Anonymous Fri Apr 3 23:02:14 2009 No.2363241 [Reply] [Original]

So I hear Yukari stopped by the Iowa Supreme Court this morning. I hope she comes back to California, soon.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 3 23:10:14 2009 No.2363283 >>2363278 >California ... best hahaha

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 3 23:10:14 2009 No.2363278 California is just the best state in America. She'll be around.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 3 23:13:14 2009 No.2363290 >>2363278 The best state in America wouldn't have granted Proposition 8, and wouldn't have nanny state laws. Also I think it was Alice who stopped by, since she is like Ellen Degeneres.

Anonymous Fri Apr 3 23:16:14 2009 No.2363314

>>2363290
The populace didn't pass prop 8. It was rigged by the government, again. That's the way with the rest of America.

Geographically, though, CA is the best. Hottest place, tallest mountain, most productive farming land in the united states. Not even mentioning Silicon Valley.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 3 23:18:14 2009 No.2363322 >>2363314 >Hottest place That's not a good thing.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 3 23:18:14 2009 No.2363326 >>2363314 >It was rigged by the government, again I guess De Nile isn't just in Egypt.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 3 23:21:14 2009 No.2363341 >>2363314 Some of the top national parks. Disneyland. Napa Valley was here, France is a loser.

Anonymous Fri Apr 3 23:21:14 2009 No.2363344
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>>2363290
Mormon money, propaganda and flat-out lies about what Prop 8 would do are what made it pass. Californians would have rejected it if not for the Mormon Church's political machine. It might take a few years, but we'll chase their asses back to Utah next time around and get it done right.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 3 23:22:14 2009 No.2363356 >>2363314 I get the impression you don't talk to people outside whatever bottom tier UC or Cal State you go to very often, do you?

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 3 23:23:14 2009 No.2363363 >>2363341 Holy fuck. How could I forget Disneyland? Oh man, now I feel bad about myself. Forgetting Disneyland is like a capital offense.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 3 23:23:14 2009 No.2363364 >>2363344 >lies about what proposition 8 would do It defines marriage as a union between a man and a woman. Thats the way it was promoted. Where is the lie here?

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 3 23:24:14 2009 No.2363370 >>2363363 You forgot Disneyland? I'd execute you myself if I knew where you lived.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 3 23:27:14 2009 No.2363383 >>2363364 You might not have seen the commercials. To call them misleading is an understatement -they're blatant lies just to cause confusion about the bill. Not everyone reads the actual bill.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 3 23:27:14 2009 No.2363389 As a Califag, I'm surprised how conservative this state is despite the stereotypes about us.

>>	Remilia Scarlet !!0l42/w//XuF Fri Apr 3 23:28:14 2009 No.2363395 File: 59 KB, 600x532, Sip.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Fascinating thread.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 3 23:29:14 2009 No.2363413 >California is just the best state in America. United States =/= America.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 3 23:31:14 2009 No.2363424 >>2363389 That's because our state has alot of wealthy people. Trends show that the more money you have, the more conservative you will be since liberal ideals means taxing the rich and giving shit to the poor.

Anonymous Fri Apr 3 23:31:14 2009 No.2363425
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>>2363364
The lies were in two areas:

1. Their informational leaflets/commercials either implied (or in the case of some leaflets, explicitly said) that if Prop 8 didn't pass, churches would be forced to perform gay marriages. An outright lie.

2. The Yes on Prop 8 campaign downplayed the Utah Mormon domination of their get-out-the-vote effort and donation base. Many California Mormon stake leaders had their wards bishops TELL their congregation how to vote on the proposition, and told them to help with the GOTV. An obscenely illegal use of the Mormon church's tax exempt status. Their tax exempt status should be stripped from them, as the orders DID come from Mormon leadership (one of their '12 Apostles') in Utah. If more people knew how much of Yes on Prop 8's money and manpower came from Mormons (and in particular, orders from Utah), it would have been an issue.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 3 23:32:14 2009 No.2363428 >>2363413 You got me there. The best state in America excluding Canada.

>>	FA☆BU☆LO☆U☆S !U5yUZtVwaY Fri Apr 3 23:34:14 2009 No.2363450 >>2363413 United States of America = America. United States of Mexico = Mexico. Canada = Canada. You = 2/10.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 3 23:35:14 2009 No.2363456 >>2363425 I'm rather annoyed about how many times religion was used in arguments. How long should I take to expect an American Inquisition?

>>	Sonic !D8kB403zbM Fri Apr 3 23:36:14 2009 No.2363467 >>2363364 Basically, they said, "If you don't vote for Prop 8, the schools will start telling your kids marriage can be between 2 people of the same sex like they do in TAXACHOOSHITS."

Anonymous Fri Apr 3 23:38:14 2009 No.2363480

>>2363456
Already happened. Besides, religions here don't want to destroy their enemies, they want to control the populace. Pretty much what everyone's after.

I'm not sure what they plan to do once they control the populace, but that's what they're trying to do.

Anonymous Fri Apr 3 23:40:14 2009 No.2363497
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>>2363456
It's because they know there isn't a valid argument against gay marriage without bringing religion into the equation.

California's proposition system is bullshit, at any rate. A 51% majority shouldn't be able to overturn a court ruling, the courts exist to prevent the majority from legislating prejudice on the minority. A 66.7% vote should be required to overturn a court decision.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 3 23:40:14 2009 No.2363502 >>2363467 Thats not a lie though. That actually happens.

Anonymous Fri Apr 3 23:42:14 2009 No.2363514

basically, the Prop 8 supporters (read: out of state interests like the Mormon Church etc) said
"PASS PROP 8, ITS FOR THE CHILDREN, YOU DON'T WANT TO BE AGAINST THE CHILDREN, DO YOU? (nothing to do with it whatsoever) ALSO IT FORCES CHURCHES TO MARRY FAGS (not even remotely true)"

Which suckers all the idiots in this state (rather, country) in to immediately falling into lock-step with the bill. Especially the Mexicans.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 3 23:42:14 2009 No.2363516 >>2363413 Only one place in the world is referred to specifically as "America". Regions are referred to with another term, like Latin America, or North America. All together, its referred to in plural as "The Americas" In summary, HERP A DERP

Anonymous Fri Apr 3 23:42:14 2009 No.2363515

>>2363502
And there's nothing wrong with that. The commercials, however, try to give the impression that instead of just telling kids that people of the same sex can get married, that schools are going to 'make their kids gay', like gayness is something you can catch by learning that it exists.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 3 23:43:14 2009 No.2363521 >>2363515 Thats not funny. My brother died after catching The Gay.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 3 23:43:14 2009 No.2363524 File: 273 KB, 815x577, 1208924596866.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2363502 It is a lie because it really isn't a requirement. That incident with the lesbian marriage in San Fransisco was just an isolated one.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 3 23:45:14 2009 No.2363546 >>2363521 He should have known better: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9UWYtFCJm8Y Also for a chuckle: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rdH1ZEbnIms

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 3 23:47:14 2009 No.2363566 I don't care about gay marriage one way or another. On the other hand, I hate San Fransisco. Anthing that pisses them off is fine by me. Thus, I voted for Prop 8. Oh, the delicious tears.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 3 23:49:14 2009 No.2363586 >>2363566 Enjoy your Spanish Inquisition. IN AMERICA.

Anonymous Fri Apr 3 23:51:14 2009 No.2363602

>>2363566
So you voted to deny the right to marry to tens of thousands of people, most of whom don't even live in San Francisco, because 'lol it'll piss off SF rofl xD!'?

I don't believe you actually 'don't care about gay marriage one way or another'. Enjoy your Christian fundamentalism and bigotry.

Alone.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 3 23:52:14 2009 No.2363611 >>2363566 If you really wanted to start a riot in San Fran, do something to keep hobos off the streets after 8:00 PM.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 3 23:52:14 2009 No.2363615 >>2363602 >>2363586 DELICIOUS TEARS

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 3 23:52:14 2009 No.2363625 I HATE FAGS

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 3 23:53:14 2009 No.2363629 >>2363602 I will enjoy being a bigot. better than bein a fagot.

Anonymous Fri Apr 3 23:55:14 2009 No.2363644

>>2363615
Doesn't affect me because I'm not gay, and your vote didn't mean shit since it passed by 3%, not by a razor's edge.

No sir, you enjoy YOUR delicious tears as a bitter old man 40 years from now when the thought of gay marriage NOT being legal is ridiculous to most, and you have to lie about how you voted way back then in California.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 3 23:56:14 2009 No.2363657 >>2363644 Don't give a shit, bro. This is funnier.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 3 23:57:14 2009 No.2363659 Wait, how many people on /jp/ are actually homo- or bisexual? I'd figure from all of the implied loving on little girls that there aren't a great number of them, but the internet surprises me often.

King in Yellow Sat Apr 4 00:00:14 2009 No.2363677

Sure is 'Mormons are horrible' in here.

I'm personally enjoying the irony of arguments promoting equality that alternate with religious prejudice.

ALL RELIGIONS MUST BE TREATED EQUALLY unless they disagree with me then fuck'em. How dare they have opinions.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 00:00:14 2009 No.2363678 >>2363659 Not even close to gay and I voted no on Prop 8 just to piss off the religious right.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 00:00:14 2009 No.2363679 >>2363659 The normal percentage for a population is usually between 2 and 5 percent (Yes I know some studies say its higher or lower, but thats a good average), but I'd say on 4chan its more like 80-90 percent.

Anonymous Sat Apr 4 00:00:14 2009 No.2363680

>>2363659
I'm sure almost all of the men here are straight. Anyone who enjoys yuri while holding views like >>2363566
or
>>2363629
is a tremendous hypocrite, though.

I think most of the gay hate expressed in this thread comes from people who are bitter. We definitely have an excess of bitter people on /jp/. Sometimes, bitter people will do anything to try to make sure that other people are as unhappy as possible.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 00:01:14 2009 No.2363684 >>2363677 I don't care what religion people practice, just keep the religious topics out of political affairs.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 00:01:14 2009 No.2363686 >>2363678 Pissing off religious people isn't funny anymore. Its a lot more fun to upset the really far left people, because they get so butthurt they can't sit down for a week.

Anonymous Sat Apr 4 00:02:14 2009 No.2363689

>>2363677
The Mormon Church can explicitly organize and support political propositions, candidates, and initiatives the moment they give up their tax exempt status. Are you aware of the rules they're supposed to be bound by in exchange for paying ZERO TAXES?

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 00:03:14 2009 No.2363693 >>2363686 I never said anything about it being funny.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 00:03:14 2009 No.2363697 >>2363680 btw i don't like yuri lesbians turn me the fuck off I voted YES to prop 8 because I HATE FAGS.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 00:04:14 2009 No.2363700 >>2363428 Canada fucking sucks >>2363413 >United States=America fixed for you dumbshit. No one says America when referring to Canada.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 00:04:14 2009 No.2363701 >>2363659 Probably would be easier if I was gay, I hate chicks.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 00:04:14 2009 No.2363702 >>2363693 Then we aren't even thinking on the same wavelength and will never be able to come to an agreement.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 00:04:14 2009 No.2363706 >>2363659 I think I'm the only gay person in /jp/. Facinating.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 00:05:14 2009 No.2363707 File: 27 KB, 200x228, ransmirk.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >lesbians turn me the fuck off >I HATE FAGS. I have some troubling news for you, friend...

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 00:05:14 2009 No.2363709 Sure is trolls trolling trolls in here. Take it back to your Global Studies classes faggots.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 00:06:14 2009 No.2363711 >>2363707 I only enjoy hetero relationships where both partners only engage in sex after marriage and only in the missionary position.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 00:06:14 2009 No.2363716 >>2363711 Dude, even I like to experiment a bit, but thats just sick.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 00:07:14 2009 No.2363717 >>2363711 I was going to agree with you, but you are really a sick bastard after all, arren't you?

Anonymous Sat Apr 4 00:07:14 2009 No.2363720

Ideally I'd like to see both homosexual and heterosexual couples defined as civil unions as far as legal matters go, and the term marriage specifically applied by whatever the fuck a church wants to call it and effectively legally neutered. Take the religion out of the whole deal, basically.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 00:09:14 2009 No.2363729 >>2363720 No way, Religon is great. If we lose Religion, how will we fight off the vast demon hordes? Science? HA!

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 00:10:14 2009 No.2363733 ITT: The reason why the Founding Fathers of America were afraid to give the common people their rights.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 00:10:14 2009 No.2363738 >>2363733 I'm fine with that. But I still hate fags.

>>	Remilia Scarlet !!0l42/w//XuF Sat Apr 4 00:10:14 2009 No.2363737 File: 113 KB, 500x706, PleaseBeQuiet.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2363697 >>lesbians turn me the fuck off Okay.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 00:11:14 2009 No.2363740 >>2363729 I have no issue with religion. I just wish the government didn't have a hand in it. As per the constitution.

Anonymous Sat Apr 4 00:11:14 2009 No.2363744

>>2363729
Haven't you played any RPGs? The twist at the end is always that the dominant religion of the game world is actually (responsible for / a front organization for) the demons in the first place.

Only a badass scientist who doesn't play by the rules can save us.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 00:12:14 2009 No.2363751 >>2363659 I'm attracted to both sexes in 2D and unattracted to either sex in 3D.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 00:12:14 2009 No.2363752 >>2363744 no fuck that guy i will shoot him to death and let the religion win because demons are awesome

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 00:13:14 2009 No.2363757 I voted against Prop 8 because, frankly, gays creep me the fuck out.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 00:15:14 2009 No.2363767 >>2363740 >constitution has been shitted on so many times in the past 2 centuries that it is no longer relevant

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 00:15:14 2009 No.2363769 >>2363757 I don't think you're comfortable with your sexuality.

>>	Remilia Scarlet !!0l42/w//XuF Sat Apr 4 00:15:14 2009 No.2363770 >>2363757 >>I voted against Prop 8

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 00:16:14 2009 No.2363772 File: 52 KB, 346x450, 1238615572971.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Going for another guy is okay in my book. Whatever makes people happy, y'know. A bit more happiness in the world is really nice, no matter how it comes to be!

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 00:16:14 2009 No.2363775 >>2363757 ...I don't think you even read about it...

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 00:16:14 2009 No.2363773 File: 670 KB, 1500x855, ohgod.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2363757 >I voted against Prop 8 because, frankly, gays creep me the fuck out. I wish there were more people like you.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 00:16:14 2009 No.2363774 >>2363751 /jp/ will the site where 2Dsexuals begin their grueling fight for equality against a 3D-biased world....

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 00:17:14 2009 No.2363787 Bro-love is the best.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 00:17:14 2009 No.2363788 >>2363774 But 2D fetishism is more acceptable. Case in point, CP gets you arrested. Loli gets you nowhere.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 00:19:14 2009 No.2363802 >>2363773 Can you imagine the reaction of people like him realizing they voted FOR gay marriage?

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 00:21:14 2009 No.2363807 >>2363788 >loli gets you nowhere You don't live in Canada, do you?

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 00:22:14 2009 No.2363814 >>2363788 In Canada, 2D loli leads to 3D bromance...in prison.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 00:23:14 2009 No.2363820 >>2363757 >>2363773 >>2363802 This is why the proposition system is fucked up.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 00:25:14 2009 No.2363834 >>2363820 Well, maybe if our California legislators weren't such god damned pansies about dealing with controversial issues they wouldn't make everyone vote on everything. Thats not the way its supposed to work.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 00:27:14 2009 No.2363844 The idea of a simple majority being able to change the fucking state constitution is insane.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 00:27:14 2009 No.2363846 >>2363820 Because some people are too stupid to read?

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 00:29:14 2009 No.2363860 >>2363834 Yeah, isn't California' constitution like twice as long as most constitutions because they have to vote on a constitutional amendment for every goddamn issue?

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 00:29:14 2009 No.2363865 >>2363846 Exactly. It's why a democracy doesn't work on a large scale and it's why the US is a REPUBLIC, not a democracy. California is trying too hard to be an actual democracy, and the failure is palpable.

Anonymous Sat Apr 4 00:30:14 2009 No.2363874

>>2363844
Pretty much. What's the point of having 'constitutional law' if a 50%+1 vote can change it? Doesn't that make it exactly the same as normal, non-constitutional law?

In every system that makes sense, at least a 60% (actually usually a full 2/3, 66.667% majority) vote is required to change constitutional law.

Anonymous Sat Apr 4 00:30:14 2009 No.2363875

Yukari is Berkeley-tan. When she's not smoking some weed with Marisa, abusing Tenshi in the hottest ways imaginable or having Ran do programming to keep Gensokyo going, she's annoying that conservative bitch Reimu and exposing her to the finer things in life. Truly, Yukari is the best.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 00:35:14 2009 No.2363908 shitty thread, with shitty trolls, on a shitty board. also unrelated to your faggotry.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 00:37:14 2009 No.2363923 >>2363865 US is a DEMOCRATIC REPUBLIC. A direct Democracy doesn't work in a large scale just as much as a direct Republic would.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 00:39:14 2009 No.2363940 >>2363874 If the people don't want to follow the constitution, why make them? If the majority of the populous decides something, then things should be done to make the decision reality.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 00:42:14 2009 No.2363952 >>2363940 Because the populous is fucking retarded.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 00:44:14 2009 No.2363960 >>2363940 The constitution is supposed to defend the people's rights, especially those of the minority. If you decide everything democratically it opens up the possibility for a tyranny of the majority (as gays in California are now enjoying).

Anonymous Sat Apr 4 00:44:14 2009 No.2363962

>>2363940
Consitutional Law exists as a check against the whims of slim majorities.

Can you imagine what would happen to the U.S. Consitution if only half+1 of elected representatives/states had to approve it for it to become law?

If the courts do something way out of bounds, the general public should have no problem getting 66.67%+ of the vote to slap them down.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 01:16:14 2009 No.2364073 Well, we certainly have pro-Prop 8 people on /jp/. Any pro-lifers?

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