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Rome invades Gensokyo. Can Rome win?

>> No.2353063

Republic Rome or Empire Rome?

Doesn't matter because GENSOKYO ISN'T REAL.

>> No.2353065

play EB

>> No.2353067
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auto_win defender

add_money 40000

No...Rome can't win.

>> No.2353070

Gensokyo would probably win as long as they abuse the hell out of bridges.

>> No.2353073

>>2353063
it is.

>> No.2353075

Maybe if Rome only fielded Urban Cohorts.

>> No.2353081

>>2353057

The youkai would be ill prepared for the red-cloaked legions of the Senate and People of Rome(SPQR).

Gaius Julius Caesar overthrows Yukari as the ruler of Gensokyo and establishes ruling supremacy over the land, annexing the Fantasy Village into his dictatorship.

Youkai everywhere are sold into slavery or killed outright. Some are forced to fight in gladiatorial combat.

Ave Caesar.

>> No.2353091

>>2353057
Reimu defeats Rome in a day, and complains about having to get out of bed to do it.

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2353093

The Ottoman Empire invades Gensokyo. Can The Ottoman Empire win?

>> No.2353095

>>2353081

More like Remilla seduces Brutus into assassinating Julius Caesar and sparking off a rift between the Roman factions.

>> No.2353102

>>2353081
>Gaius Julius Caesar overthrows Yukari
Can't happen.

>> No.2353106

Invading a poorly mapped, make-believe land that's half-way across the world and is filled with flying girls who shoot bullets that shoot bullets?

I'm gonna have to go with the frills over the togas on this one.

>> No.2353125

>>2353095
>>2353102

All that would come after the annexation of Gensokyo.

Gensokyo has no army.

The Roman Empire, under Caesar, was an unstoppable juggernaut that fielded tens of thousands of men, accompanied by the finest military hardware of its time.

One shrine maiden would be able to do very little against such an army. If anything, she would be captured and then tortured into giving up the locations of the other important figures of the Fantasy Village.

However, I would not put it past some clever folk, like Remilia for example, to use their wiles in order to fell the Empire from within.

>> No.2353141

>>2353125

But Touhous can fly. Rome has no weapons to country flight.

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>>2353093

>The Ottoman Empire invades Gensokyo. Can The Ottoman Empire win?

No. They already tried in Touhou:- UFO

>> No.2353144

the real question is: can Maximus 1cc Gensokyo?

>> No.2353163

Sure are lot of Total War fags here....lets set up a game!

>> No.2353166

>>2353163
RTW vanila multiplayer?

>> No.2353170

Total Realism mod only plz

>> No.2353179

>>2353170
EB>>>>>>>>>>>>>RTR

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Anti-Danmaku formation

ROME HAS CONQUERED!

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>>2353189
QUICK
SEND HIM

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>>2353189

I charge with armored dolls. You rout.

>> No.2353207

horse archers>>>>Legions

>> No.2353213

>>2353198

Good thing dolls are flammable.

SEND OUT THE BALLISTAS AND ONAGERS!

>> No.2353220

Rome has no army.

Gensokyo, under Yukari, is an unstoppable juggernaut that fields tens of thousands of fairies, accompanied by the finest danmaku in the world.

One outside world empire would be able to do very little against such an army. If anything, they would be conquered and then devoured.

However, I would not put it past some clever folk, like Marcus Aurelius for example, to use their wiles in order to fell the Yakumo family from within.

>> No.2353228

>>2353141

testudo formation ensures that no soldiers are hit by danmaku.

archers can take out the flying ones.

checkmate for gensokyo. I can assure you that the first to raise a hand against the SPQR would rapidly be rendered both handless and footless.

You would have to wait for the eventual collapse of the empire. But I digress. It's my bedtime.

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2353231

An army of 30 will defeat any foreign invaders

>> No.2353242

>>2353231

Caesar lays siege to Uxellodunum, the last Gallic outpost in open revolt. Caesar defeats these last rebels, and then proceeds to cut off the hands of all those who survived the siege, and scatter them throughout Gaul.


Battle of Uxellodunum. And I daresay that the Gauls were far more hardcore than the people of Gensokyo. If they stood no chance...

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>>2353057
No.

>> No.2353251

>>2353242
Does Asterix shoot bullets?

>> No.2353252

>>2353228

Archers will be inaccurate. Or Touhous will fly at high altitudes and just drop shit on them. Cavalry charges are very effective on testudo formation.

>> No.2353268

>>2353057
TRIARIII!
TRIARII!!
INFANTRY!!!
TRIARIII!!!
also, I'd pay to hear the general's speech before battle:
"our enemies have fielded 3/4 of their army today, If we defeat them we will have conquered, but it will be bravery and not dodging flashy bullet-things which will win victory today, also our enemies are flying little girls"

>> No.2353302

>>2353268

Today an Eagle soared above our camp. It is a good omen. Our enemy has brought magic to the battlefield. They fear us. They will not match us with steel. Instead they turn to their tricks. Today we shall bath in Touhou blood. Send these harlots to Elysium and rape their wives in the evening.

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>>2353242

And the Partisan of Gensokyo will start the guerrilla campaign.
WOLVERINES!! WOLVERINES!! WOLVERINES!! WOLVERINES!!

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2353311

The sinews of war are infinite money - Cicero

There is no money in Gensokyo...

>> No.2353312

>>2353057
I hope this thread is one big tongue in cheek.

>> No.2353315

How about modern-day Earth Vs Gensokyo?
That would be a pretty badass Tom Clancy game.

>> No.2353318

people who play broken rome in vanilla R:TW itt

>> No.2353321

>>2353311


>The sinews of war are infinite money - Cirno

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2353329

How would they kill Youkai? Youkai regenerate real quickly and aren't hurt from physical attacks. Danmaku will shred all the clusters of people and I don't think their shields can stand up to that shit either.

>> No.2353344

>>2353329

They may have danmaku but the cohorts of rome have their volleys of pilum and their testudo formations.

>> No.2353347

>>2353329

No.

Youkai are actually weaker than humans. Word of God has said this(ZUN).

The only truly powerful youkai are the big bosses such as Yukari, Yuuka, Meiling, and so forth.

>> No.2353363 [DELETED] 

>>2353329
Where did zun say this?

Also Yukari gaps them toga into the sun.

>> No.2353369

>>2353329

You haven't seen my shields, bro.

>> No.2353371

>>2353347
>>Youkai have more robust bodies than humans, so even if they're split into five, they heal right away.

PMiSS

>> No.2353377

>>2353347

Lesser youkai, of course.

That doesn't mean average level ones like Mystia wouldn't be a threat. Youkai are most active at the night, when humans are least active. Mystia blinds the night guards, and a small troop of youkai sneak in and kill the entire force.

Of course, Rome wouldn't be able to seal the youkai, so any invasion would just be an unending war.

>> No.2353378

>>2353329
When killing is not an option, imprisonment is still available.

Like pinning them down with pikes and then placing stone slabs over their bodies. Even if they regenerate, they cannot move.

>> No.2353383

The winter created by Cirno the strongest of all the youkai would stop the romans dead in their tracks.

>> No.2353388

>>2353378
How the fuck would you pin them down? They can fly and you would need alot of fucking stone slabs for all the youkai.

>> No.2353394

>>2353383
You are thinking Letty. And anybody with half a brain can outsmart, and defeat, Cirno.

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2353396

Roman army v. Dragon+Phoenix.

FIGHT.

And don't waive with that "they get distracted killing each other". They've entered an uneasy ceasefire after the events of IN.

>> No.2353397

>>2353388

Recruit Hannibal's elephants to sit on them.

>> No.2353398

>>2353347
Avarage youkai is weaker than avarage Gensokyo human. You know, the ones that are used to defend from them from infancy. Any outsider who comes to Gensokyo is screwed. You need spiritual energy and weapons to fight them, normal warfare does nothing.

Hell, Wriggle alone would probably be able to fend off the entire army with precise wasp attacks had the need ever arose.

Now, if invaders employ their priests and gods, it's another story.

>> No.2353405

>>2353394

outsmart perhaps, but defeat? any swords or arrows would freeze and shatter before they hit cirno

>> No.2353407

I'm loling at a human killing suika.

>> No.2353409

>>2353388
Archers shooting at the Youkai. Eventually, one of the arrows must hit somewhere sensible causing them to crash down. At that moment, lancers and available soldier keep it down.

Remember, few Youkai are intelligent. Most of them are animalistic, and hold no regard for their own safety, because of their immortality.

>> No.2353411

>>2353398
>priests and gods

But they don't exist!

>> No.2353412

>>2353409
Youkai are not immortal.

>> No.2353420

>>2353398
Bah, A heavily coordinated air raid with heat-seeking nuclear missiles should take care of them.

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2353423

Even the great oliphants of the macedonian rebels could not stand to the proud praetorians under Placus Julius, vanquisher of Pontus.

What could frilly hats do against this incarnation of Mars himself?

>> No.2353425

>>2353405
No matter how cold they can get, they will still keep going.

It's not as if she is the sun. Then the arrows would never hit because they would vaporize.

>> No.2353430

Send Mokou to kill as many people as she can, and when she's about to die, explode in an awesome thing of fire. Then wait for her respawn and do everything again.
Kaguya could also mess up with something, including Mokou.

>> No.2353431

Marisa can solo the entire western world.

1. Fly to the atmosphere
2. Spam Master sparks
3. ????????????
4. Profit

>> No.2353435

can romans fight in the pitch dark? Rumia can

>> No.2353436

>>2353411
You are in fucking Gensokyo. There are gods everywhere. As for priests, see Reimu.

>> No.2353437

>>2353423

Those best buy elephants are hilarious.

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>>2353315
Several faction in Gensokyo have collectively organized an elite counter-telolist unit, composed of the best soldiers from the militaries of several team, named DAT ASS (Danmaku Anti-Telolism Asistance Suicide Squadron). Based in Hakurei Shire, (real-life home of the ‘pyromaniac shrine maidens’), the team is led by Yukari Yakumo (who had the idea for DAT ASS), a recurring immortal character in Zun's games. DAT ASS is "blacker than black", its Fan funding (Reistaisai,Doujin,Fan Games) Source directed through the Department of the Human-Youkai Relation Interior led by Ms. Keine Kamishirasawa, then through The Einentei's Office of Special Projects, with no connection whatsoever to the 4Chan Intelligence Community. Fewer than a thirty people in Gensokyo. know that DAT ASS exists. The real life unit most similiar to DAT ASS is the 4Chan elite Special Activities (/jp/) Division.

>> No.2353445

>>2353430

THIS ISN'T PATCHCON

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>>2353431

Oh, hi.

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2353456

Marisa is not a Youkai.

Now, if Yuyuko actually moved her ass out of the dinner table and had the idea of fighting, no human could stand a chance. Nobody.

>> No.2353460

>>2353446
She blows any missile interceptors up with her unidirectional lasers?

>> No.2353465

>>2353460

But... they're non-directional...

>> No.2353469

>>2353456
I thought this was "gensokyo vs Roman empire" not "youkais vS roman Empire."

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>>2353465
CLOSE ENOUGH.

>> No.2353475

>>2353442
FUND IT!

>> No.2353477

Higher-tiers (Flandre, Yuyuko, Suika) would crush them in a heartbeat.
Lower-tiers have numbers and regeneration in their favor.
Even certain humans like Marisa have MASTER SPARK ZE.

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2353478

Step 1: Okuu!
Step 2: GENSOKYO WINS

Let's forget SA's ending for now.

>> No.2353483

Anyone that does not say Gensokyo is a troll.

>> No.2353488

>>2353477
As powerful as it is, Marisa can't spam it.

>> No.2353491

>>2353456
She would have already been evaluated as a High-level threat and killed by a Special OPs unit.

>> No.2353494
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2353494

Vibius Julius, patriarch of the Julii family marches against gaul on request from the Senate to capture Lugdenum from the backward barbarians.

The staggered formations of gaul proves no match to his army, but will he face similar success against their ally general winter?

>> No.2353496

>>2353431
No she can't. Her Master Sparks would evaporate in a puff of logic. She will be lucky if she doesn't lose her ability to fly as soon as she crosses the Gensokyo border.

>> No.2353500

>>2353488
She could use Blazing Star to sweep everything then.
Other girls could attack while she prepares for another attack.

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>>2353442

Not enough people have quoted this great post yet

>> No.2353506

>>2353496
But in this case, Romans are invading Gensokyo.

>> No.2353513

>>2353505
Because it sounds like poolshmer trash.

>> No.2353527

>>2353496
You do realize she reached earth's orbit in one of the cannon doujins in the hopes of getting reisen home? She croseed the border and her powers didn't puff in a cloud of logic.

Tenshi set the touhou's to the atmosphere. Their powers still worked. Those two events prove that the touhou can use their powers outside gensokyo. I don't even know where you got the idea they couldn't.

>> No.2353532

Reisen makes them kill themselves. Easy win for the touhou.

>> No.2353540

>>2353398
Spirit energy? None is as strong as the Roman Gods then because all the soldiers believe and fight in the name of their gods, Mars will grant them invulnerability and whatnot along with Zeus and Poseidon charge in for a good fight.

>> No.2353543

>>2353540
I mean Jupiter and Neptune, same God different name.

>> No.2353548

>>2353527
>in one of the cannon doujins
>cannon doujins
ಠ_ಠ

>> No.2353549

>>2353527
Things that don't exist can't win versus things that do no matter how strong they are, even Gods hold no sway over physical law

>> No.2353556

>>2353549

Touhous don't exist.

>> No.2353559

>>2353513

As opposed to 4chan trash (power level discussions, you).

>> No.2353561

>>2353527

But you notice--they never left the border.

The border of Gensokyo is a metaphorical one--a border between fantasy and reality. The border does not have a strict "volume" or area that it contains. The "moon" in Gensokyo is not the same moon as seen by the outside world.

>> No.2353569

>>2353527
I'm not talking about "outside Gensokyo", I'm talking about our world specifically. Heaven, moon, or, say Hakugyokurou or Makai, can be outside Gensokyo, but they're still realms where supernatural forces work. In our world, not so.

Canon, ZUN agreed, don't bother him, etc.

>> No.2353591

>>2353540
>Zeus and Poseidon

Wrong mythology (but I see you noticed this already).

Anyway, belief give powers to gods, not to believers. Unless Mars, Jupiter and co. come to Gensokyo personally, their believers stand no chance againist actual gods and other beings that trained in using their spiritual power all their lives. "Girls of Gensokyo, what is your profession?!"

>> No.2353592

>>2353561
>>The "moon" in Gensokyo is not the same moon as seen by the outside world.

Bullshit. In Derp Derp in Derp it was stated that the americans sent a mirror to the moon to measure the distance with lasers and the moon rabbits fucked it up. That implies that either Americans can go to the "other moon" or it's the same moon.

>> No.2353607

>>2353561

The moon is the same everywhere.

Gensokyo's moon is Earth's moon is the Lunar Rabbit's home.

That's why when Eirin made an attempt to seal EARTH from the moon, GENSOKYO got pissed of as Youkai rely on the moon's power.

>> No.2353615

>>2353591
The Roman Gods always accompany their warriors to battle, atleast that's how it is written. Roman gods have millions of devout followers, they would absolutely ravage Gensokyo and its inhabitants.

Also why so serious?

>> No.2353626

Has the ROME:TOTAL WAR mod for touhou been finished?

>> No.2353636

>>2353483

>> No.2353642

>>2353615
The point is, the gods would have to fight themselves. Their human armies, they do nothing.

Also, it's worth mentioning they'd be lucky if they didn't turn into little girls immediately after crossing the border.

>Also why so serious?

I'm going to overlook this retarded question.

>> No.2353645

>>2353642

>Also, it's worth mentioning they'd be lucky if they didn't turn into little girls immediately after crossing the border.

Mars-tan is so tsundere!

>> No.2354343

>>2353442

>> No.2354454

>>2353626

WHAT? Someone elaborate, sounds too good to be true...
Still 1st April in the US?

>> No.2354473

it would end in a massive orgy, fuckwits

there aren't many cocks in gensokyo

>> No.2354478

>>2354473
There are no cocks in Gensokyo at all. The 'men' have vaginas.

All toe-hoe's like vagina. Do the math.

>> No.2354485

>>2354478
Quite contrary sir, everybody has a cock in Gensokyo.

>> No.2354497

Gensokyo can psychologically torture the Roman army.

>> No.2354500

>>2354454

Seconded.

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Pic related.
Let's see, one is a ghost which can instantly kill anyone simply by wanting it to be so, and the other can manipulate pretty much fucking everything and everyone.
Rome has no chance.
Also how the fuck would you kill a ghost in the first place? Is it even possible with conventional weaponry?

>> No.2354509

You can't compare fantasy with reality.

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>>2354509
Sup.

>> No.2354523

>>2354513
?

>> No.2354595

>>2354513
You don't exist.

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TRIARII

>> No.2354603

>>2354596
THE DAY IS OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOURS

THE ANEMY GANERRAL WAS A FOOOOL

THEY TAKE OUR CHILDREN AND TURN THEM INTO LITTLE ROMANS HAAA!!!!!

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>>2354596

Man fuck Triarii, I'm sure in Real Life they were ultimate badasses or whatever but they aren't worth all the time and effort that goes into getting them out onto the field.

Principes are where it's at pre-marius reforms.


While we're on the subject, I never got a good answer for why Rome had Armored Ninjas in this game.

>> No.2354609

>>2354604
they had flaming pigs too

>> No.2354610

>>2354604
Triarri were old men, they were not expected to fight unless Rome was losing the battle.

As for the Arcanii , fuck you and go back to /b/ dipshit.

>> No.2354616

>>2354603
THE ENEMY RUN LIKE FRIGHTENED GOATS...HUNT THEM DOWN...GOATS MAKE GOOD EATING!

>> No.2354634

>>2354610
Arcanii might have actually existed.

But they were not mask wearing Super Soldiers.

They were scouts, Spies, and not even actual Romans.

MOST of the game is fairly accurate, even if there are some other massively incorrect things. But I can take those as Gameplay choices.


But The Arcani?

It just doesn't add up at fucking all.

>> No.2354644

Just have the soldiers anoint there weapons with holy water, it'll let them kill Youkai.

>> No.2354645

>>2354634
yeah , im sure weabos give a shit about any uselss info about classical europe u found in wikipedia..

>> No.2354664

>>2354644

no need just throw as many urbans you can make at them not like they ever break and run

>> No.2354682

>>2354644
Youkai can fly, so no melee weapon would even have a chance to be used. As for projectiles... well, guess what the entire Gensokyo practices for their entire lifetime? Dodging them.

A few small-fry stray youkai may be hurt, or even killed, that way, but nothing more. Oh, and most of those youkai would be fairies, which are going to respawn afterwards anyway.

>> No.2354721

Maybe you have forgotten the Space Marines stationed at Gensokyo...

>> No.2354745

For this to happen, Caesar must travel all the way to Japan. In doing so he must contend with armies beyond India...Which includes the China. It's going to be very fighting another well established and large empire so far from home.

>> No.2354832 [DELETED] 

Even if Rome could pass through the boundary, and its army had people with supernatural powers in it, there are Gensokyoans who can fuck with the very fabric of space and time, the boundaries between dimensions, outright end your life without even touching you, there are at least two who cannot die... period, etc.
Rome would be fucked.

>> No.2354843

Even if Rome could pass through the boundary, and its army had people with supernatural powers in it, there are Gensokyoans who can fuck with the very fabric of space and time, the boundaries between dimensions, outright end your life without even touching you, there are at least two who cannot die... period, etc.
Rome would be fucked.

>>2354745
Would he? Did Remilia have to go to Japan? As I understood it she moved her entire mansion, so the entrance to Gensokyo might not be one place in Japan.

>> No.2354843,1 [INTERNAL] 

>>2354745
Their kings are not permanent. They select and appoint the most worthy man. If there are unexpected calamities in the kingdom, such as frequent extraordinary winds or rains, he is unceremoniously rejected and replaced. The one who has been dismissed quietly accepts his demotion, and is not angry. The people of this country are all tall and honest. They resemble the people of the Middle Kingdom and that is why this kingdom is called Da Qin. This country produces plenty of gold [and] silver, [and of] rare and precious [things] they have luminous jade, 'bright moon pearls,' Haiji rhinoceroses, coral, yellow amber, opaque glass, whitish chalcedony, red cinnabar, green gemstones, gold-thread embroideries, woven gold-threaded net, delicate polychrome silks painted with gold, and asbestos cloth.
They also have a fine cloth which some people say is made from the down of 'water sheep' [= sea silk], but which is made, in fact, from the cocoons of wild silkworms (= wild silk). They blend all sorts of fragrances, and by boiling the juice, make a compound perfume. [They have] all the precious and rare things that come from the various foreign kingdoms. They make gold and silver coins. Ten silver coins are worth one gold coin. They trade with Anxi [Parthia] and Tianzhu [North-western India] by sea. The profit margin is ten to one. . . . The king of this country always wanted to send envoys to the Han, but Anxi [Parthia], wishing to control the trade in multi-coloured Chinese silks, blocked the route to prevent [the Romans] getting through [to China].


It would have been an interesting alt-history where Rome and China pushed respectively east and west and met in the middle in Central Asia or Persia. I wonder what would have happened.

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