Gorgoneion

[Arcueid Brunestud !ARCIkc4cG6 No.]

Since the last thread concerning Medusa was so successful, let us consider the Gorgons again.

Greek mythology in general is welcomed.

We will also consider Stheno and Euryale in this thread, if possible.

[Shion !U4ZKgLjqPw No.]

needs more Arcueid Brunestud !FAGGOT

[Arcueid Brunestud !ARCIkc4cG6 No.]

>>2342913

Stheno and Euryale are the two lesser Gorgons.

They are both younger and more immature than Medusa.
It has also been suggested that they were more sexually active than the Medusa herself.

Some myths suggest that Medusa allowed herself to be turned into a monstrous being for the sake of shielding her sisters from the lusts of men.

The veracity of such myths leave much to be desired, however.

[Arcueid Brunestud !ARCIkc4cG6 No.]

>>2342913

Also, school isn't out yet.

[Anonymous No.]

Reported.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2342921
Might be because Nasu pulled those myths out of his ass.

[Arcueid Brunestud !ARCIkc4cG6 No.]

>>2342931

>i reported
>you're thread

Sweet tale, dude.

I sometimes wonder what would happen if Megas Alexandros had run into his parallel by some chance.

Knowing him, I'm sure he would have taken this chance to slay a Gorgon in order to add to his prestige.

[Arcueid Brunestud !ARCIkc4cG6 No.]

>>2342941

Forgot my image.

Nasu, like all good storytellers, sees fit to embellish on the old mythos here and there.

[Arcueid Brunestud !ARCIkc4cG6 No.]

Stheno and Euryale enjoyed the perks of Immortality, Medusa did not.

That is why Perseus saw fit to kill her.

[Arcueid Brunestud !ARCIkc4cG6 No.]

Stheno killed the most men out of the Gorgons.

She, too, possessed the eyes that petrified flesh into stone.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2342938
Nah, not really.

There are many versions of the myth, them being Bonafide monsters, being simple women cursed by the gods (priestess story or just because of their beauty) them being divine and then turned monstrous etc Nasu just mixes parts and fits it in his story.

[Arcueid Brunestud !ARCIkc4cG6 No.]

>>2342969

I shudder to think of what Nasu might have done with Perseus's tale.

He might pervert the whole thing into a wacky slice-of-life/dating sim VN in which the hero Perseus is a schoolboy trying to get with the three sisters(who are all famous in the school for different reasons).

I would then cry.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2342951

>Nasu
>good storyteller

[Arcueid Brunestud !ARCIkc4cG6 No.]

Gorgons? IN MY SHINTO SHRINE?!

It's more likely than you might think.

Watch out, Raymoo!

[Anonymous No.]

>>2342982
According to Rider in HA, Perseus is a Shinji that succeeded.
Wonder how that plays out.
Perseus was not that big a deal anyway, too much help from gods, no real brilliance, and no overwhelming Martial Feats, relied too much on Gadgets and a certain head.

Of the lamest Greek Heroes.

[Anonymous No.]

It seems like Nasu just read a summary of Medusa off the Japanese wikipedia as a basis to write Rider's backstory.

[Arcueid Brunestud !ARCIkc4cG6 No.]

>>2342987

So, he was much like the James Bond of his time.

Also, the man was the first whaler. He killed Cetus, for crying out loud. You cannot deny that he had some style.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2342990
obivously

[MolesterJim No.]

>>2342990
There are so many Facets of the myth, he probably chose what fits his world setting.

FOr extreme details and analysis of Gorgon (among otherthings), read : "La Mort dans les yeux' by Jean-Pierre Vervant.

[Arcueid Brunestud !ARCIkc4cG6 No.]

>>2343016

You should read all of Jean-Pierre Vernant's works, not just that one. He dissembles with the air of an expert when it comes to Hellenistic mythology.

I have that book, The Universe, the Gods, and Men, and Myth and Tragedy in Ancient Greece.

[MolesterJim No.]

>>2343033
I admit, I'm surprised if this is true.

[Arcueid Brunestud !ARCIkc4cG6 No.]

[Arcueid Brunestud !ARCIkc4cG6 No.]

It amuses me no end when people respond to any suggestion of brutality towards Medusa with "OMG HOW COULD YOU WISH THAT ON POOR RIDER ;_;"

They'd be singing another tune if the Gorgon's brass hands were crushing their bones to bits.

[Arcueid Brunestud !ARCIkc4cG6 No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>2343072
>They'd be singing another tune if the (Insert character name)'s (method of killing) were (description of injury).

[Arcueid Brunestud !ARCIkc4cG6 No.]

This monster knows how to disguise herself well.

[CurryButt !CIELBE/jzM No.]

>>2343072
People sing tunes when they are killed?

[Arcueid Brunestud !ARCIkc4cG6 No.]

>>2343084

Have you never watched a theatrical play?

[CurryButt !CIELBE/jzM No.]

>>2343092
People do a theatrical segment when they are killed?

[Arcueid Brunestud !ARCIkc4cG6 No.]

>>2343098

That they do.

And these two were twintailing around long before twintails were popular.

[Arcueid Brunestud !ARCIkc4cG6 No.]

[Arcueid Brunestud !ARCIkc4cG6 No.]

I would use quite a few terms for describing Rider, but 'moe' is not one of them.

I also cannot say I would feel sorry for the beast if someone tore her head from her shoulders.

A pity no one thought to do that in F/SN.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2343117
I can only find that on megaupload (which is I can't access from my dorm).

Can you upload it to mediafire, please?

[Arcueid Brunestud !ARCIkc4cG6 No.]

>>2343134

Link me to the Megaupload and I will do the honors.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2343141
I think this is it:
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=cv7sp58b

At least the title seems to be right.

[Arcueid Brunestud !ARCIkc4cG6 No.]

>>2343147

Downloading.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2343131
Well, Kuzuki went halfway.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2343151

[Arcueid Brunestud !ARCIkc4cG6 No.]

>>2343155

And now, uploading.

[Arcueid Brunestud !ARCIkc4cG6 No.]

>>2343153

Kuzuki is always handling problems in a sensible fashion.

What does Rider read books about, anyway? The Kama Sutra? How to dissect humans? Torture methods?

[Arcueid Brunestud !ARCIkc4cG6 No.]

>>2343155
>>2343147
>>2343134

http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?0zlnmmkm3uz

See if that works.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2343160

[Anonymous No.]

>>2343173
I'll check it out.

Thanks for your time.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2343166
120 days of Sodom.

[Arcueid Brunestud !ARCIkc4cG6 No.]

>>2343179

Indeed, I'm sure Rider has all of De Sade's works. Well done, Anon.

[Arcueid Brunestud !ARCIkc4cG6 No.]

>>2343177


You're welcome. If it didn't work, let me know.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2343190
It appears to be working just fine.
And it's translated.

[Arcueid Brunestud !ARCIkc4cG6 No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>2343209
Of course, all the hassle could be avoided by going here
http://www.freewebs.com/aortic/fatekaranokyokai.htm
And getting Gordon Double flat...
Oh, well, I cam late.

[Arcueid Brunestud !ARCIkc4cG6 No.]

>>2343226

>Gordon

JOHN FREEMAN OVER HERE

[Arcueid Brunestud !ARCIkc4cG6 No.]

[Arcueid Brunestud !ARCIkc4cG6 No.]

Anon once said that I harbored a 'maniacal' dislike of Rider.

I lol'd.

[Arcueid Brunestud !ARCIkc4cG6 No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>2343345
Judging from pics and discussion, hate or not, you have a slight obsession or simple deep-rooted interest in her and her surrounding cosmos.

[Arcueid Brunestud !ARCIkc4cG6 No.]

[Arcueid Brunestud !ARCIkc4cG6 No.]

>>2343351

You may call me a pseudo-intellectual or a pretender to knowledge as some are prone to doing, but I have a healthy enjoyment of Hellenistic myths.

Rider is also /jp/ related, so I can indulge in this sort of thing without being completely and wholly off-topic.

[Anonymous No.]

Medusa was such a slut. Imagine this bitch had the nerve, THE NERVE, to go and get RAPED in the temple of her goddess, Athena, by Poseidon. Despite being a priestess of said temple. What a fucking whore. I say she deserved everything she got.

[Arcueid Brunestud !ARCIkc4cG6 No.]

>>2343375

Certainly.

I cannot say I would shed any tears over her demise.

If anything, I quite relish the idea of her being brought back to life through the Grail - that way she can be killed again and again.

[Arcueid Brunestud !ARCIkc4cG6 No.]

>>2343375

Later, Athena would take the Gorgon's head and place it on her Aegis as a protective measure.

[MolesterJim No.]

>>2343358
I personally find it interesting to find someone like this on 4chan. I grew up reading this shit, and it's cool to know someone else wasted his time on this.

Anyway, Perseus is a douchebag.
'Look at me, I ambush the 3 Γραίες while the exchange their sole eye and tooth, and blackmail them to giving me the equipment that makes me fly and be invisible, I'm so badass.'

[Anonymous No.]

Sakura was such a slut. Imagine this bitch had the nerve, THE NERVE, to go and get RAPED in the house of her adoptive grandfather, Zouken, by Shinji (and god knows how many other men). Despite being a ward of said family. What a fucking whore. I say she deserved everything she got.

[Arcueid Brunestud !ARCIkc4cG6 No.]

>>2343405
>>2343405

Let's not forget that handy mirrored shield he nicked.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2343408
so cock hungry

[Arcueid Brunestud !ARCIkc4cG6 No.]

>>2343405

Περσεύς also saved Andromeda and fathered kings.

[Anonymous No.]

Rider is mai waifu stop saying mean things about her

[MolesterJim No.]

>>2343413
Actually, the only also gave him the sack in which to put the head.

Hermes gave him the 'Αρπην(Gil's Harpe, which Cronus used to cut the testicles or Uranus).

Athena gave him the shield.

[Anonymous No.]

>If anything, I quite relish the idea of her being brought back to life through the Grail - that way she can be killed again and again.

No! No! Bad Beato! Bad!

[Anonymous No.]

You seem to think that we are reading your posts. Thats a negative, we are just extracting the pictures and moving on.

[Anonymous No.]

As someone who adores all sorts of mythology, I must say this honestly...

Japan is the Michael J. Fox of lore.

[MolesterJim No.]

>>2343432
Using said HEAD.
Whoop-dee-woo.
And lack of the sperm's destiny is not an achievement that should be attributed.

[Beatrice !ARCIkc4cG6 No.]

>>2343440

OH HO, YOU FIGURED ME OUT~!

>>2343438

Ἅιδης gave him the skullcap that allowed him to assume invisibility, if we're going to mention his god-given gifts.

The Graeae only clued him in as to where the Gorgons were hidden, apparently. But then, that's just one explanation.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2343471
Well, there are at least 3 prominent versions of origin, execution and aftermath concerning Perseus and the Gorgons.

[Arcueid Brunestud !ARCIkc4cG6 No.]

When Perseus was done with the single eye and the single tooth, he tossed them into a lake.

Classic.

[Arcueid Brunestud !ARCIkc4cG6 No.]

>>2343434

Your waifu would tear the flesh from your bones with her teeth and fingers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2343485
And also ORGASM the moments she gouges out your eyes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2343485
Kinky~

[Arcueid Brunestud !ARCIkc4cG6 No.]

Gorgon preparing to eat Japanese Human Flesh.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2343485
If I am unworthy of her love enough that she chooses to do that, I would accept it. ;_;

[Arcueid Brunestud !ARCIkc4cG6 No.]

>>2343490
>>2343492
>>2343499

The only reason I condone tearing Rider's head from her neck is because she would do the same to YOU in a heartbeat if you let her get within range.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2343502
She's just... lonely, okay?!

[Anonymous No.]

I prefer swiss, myself.

[Arcueid Brunestud !ARCIkc4cG6 No.]

>>2343507

Does loneliness always spur people to eat humans and then suck the marrow from their cracked bones?

[Arcueid Brunestud !ARCIkc4cG6 No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>2343502
then explain Rider's Sakaki personality in HA

[Anonymous No.]

>>2343528
S-some people don't cope well, okay? I know that... deep down, she's just as lonely as anyone else, but... she has a very, very tough job! Okay?! Leave her alone. ;_;

[Arcueid Brunestud !ARCIkc4cG6 No.]

>>2343549
>>2343549

Because she knew that if she tried any funny shit, Shirou would have cut her breasts off and forced her to eat them.

When you're hanging around a Legendary Hero-To-Be, I imagine you rein in your behavior a little.

[Arcueid Brunestud !ARCIkc4cG6 No.]

>>2343558

What job?

[Anonymous No.]

>>2343575
Uh...

...

I dunno, whatever it is she does. I haven't watched this animu yet.

[Arcueid Brunestud !ARCIkc4cG6 No.]

>>2343581

As I thought.

Get the fuck out.

[Arcueid Brunestud !ARCIkc4cG6 No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>2343592
YOU BIG DUMB JERK

YOU'LL NEVER UNDERSTAND OUR LOVE

[Anonymous No.]

>>2343575
If we're going by Heaven's Feel, helping Shirou would be her job. Not a glorious profession by any means, judging from what happened to his previous Servant...

[Arcueid Brunestud !ARCIkc4cG6 No.]

>>2343606

I understand it perfectly.

I understand that she would love to crack your thoracic cavity open, pull your internal organs out, and feast on them.
She would save your still-beating heart for last, tearing it from your chest and sucking out the warm blood, and then eating it.

[HelenXonpool !a0yHhBwvus No.]

I don't get this whole "poor Rider" thing anyway. Just look at her.
She's got, what? Purple squared eyes that turn people into stone, hair down to her ankles, stands a whole head (almost two) taller than every other woman in Japan, that face, those legs, a full firm set women everywhere would kill and consume their mothers' flesh for, can ride ANYTHING, bleed out of her neck without dying and shoot out a fookin' winged horse like ordnance. And boots. Seriously, those boots.

She's got everything laid out quite nicely for her.

[Arcueid Brunestud !ARCIkc4cG6 No.]

>>2343619

She's also a man-eating monster, in case you were forgetting.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2343619
don't forger that Saber also has the ride ability.

[Anonymous No.]

this thread make me turn into stone, if you know what I mean

[HelenXonpool !a0yHhBwvus No.]

>>2343627

That's always a bonus.
What does she do with women?

[Arcueid Brunestud !ARCIkc4cG6 No.]

>>2343648

I meant 'man' as in humans in general.

Human flesh is a Gorgon's favorite food.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2343619

...except that her master is a dumb bitch.

Sakura lets Shinji have her way, and despite having a loyal loving servant that cares for her and is the sex-incarnate... decides to go nuts and still wants to bang YOU LOST ME.

[Anonymous No.]

WHERE ARE THE SNAKES

[Arcueid Brunestud !ARCIkc4cG6 No.]

>>2343581

[Anonymous No.]

>>2343683
THE HAIR SNAKES JACKASS

[Arcueid Brunestud !ARCIkc4cG6 No.]

>>2343699

ask nasu, he drew her like that
are you fucking blind stop shouting

[HelenXonpool !a0yHhBwvus No.]

>>2343683

That's true.
I do remember reading Rider turns into something resembling the classic Medusa after she "powers up" fully, but I've never actually seen a pic of it.

Somehow just typing "powers up" makes me feel dirty.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2343705
MEDUSA IS NOT MEDUSA WITHOUT HER SNAKES

[Arcueid Brunestud !ARCIkc4cG6 No.]

>>2343502
>>2343712

Pearoasted image.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2343727

Yet you're fine with FEMALE KING ARTHUR and BISHOUNEN GODKING GILGAMESH?

[Arcueid Brunestud !ARCIkc4cG6 No.]

>>2343727

Just draw some snakes...you...you...DOUBLE NIGGER!

[Anonymous No.]

What does it take to be a good hero? Strength? Skill? Ability?

I say no to these answers.

What it takes to be a hero...is the ability to create awe in those around you.

To be awesome, is to be fit as a hero.

[Arcueid Brunestud !ARCIkc4cG6 No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>2343740
They are so many other absurdities in legends overall, this is the least bit thing that bothers me.

[Arcueid Brunestud !ARCIkc4cG6 No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>2343755
Strictly speaking, there are two definitions of hero.
The one that the PEOPLE give, yo one who defeats their enemies (other nations, monsters, etc).

The other, which depends on the person itself, is not determined their skills, character, challenges or just results, but what they live for, fight for and die for.

[HelenXonpool !a0yHhBwvus No.]

>>2343755

Well, that explains how Cuchullain (the second most badass hero of pagan Ireland) got his pink butt handed to him.
Ireland ain't got a lot of people to awe. Never did.

[Arcueid Brunestud !ARCIkc4cG6 No.]

[Arcueid Brunestud !ARCIkc4cG6 No.]

>>2343619

The 'poor rider' thing is as hilarious as the folk who portray her as a misunderstood, 'moe' glasses-wearing Onee-chan.

The only thing more funny than that is the people who call my frankness about Rider's nature a 'maniacal hatred'.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2343783
The first one is made through awe, the second makes awe.

One from innate ability, the other through action.

[HelenXonpool !a0yHhBwvus No.]

>>2343801

>misunderstood, 'moe' glasses-wearing Onee-chan

Don't see why anyone'd have to change her. She's pretty awesome as she is.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2343801
Well, half the versions of legend and the one Nasu modified portray her as someone who due to cruelty of the gods and misunderstanding of humans(aka external factors), was turned into a monster.

There are many cases of people fucked up like that.
Whether you sympathize or not, is your coice.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2343740
WHAT IS THE FIRST THING YOU THINK OF WHEN YOU HEAR "MEDUSA"

IF IT ISN'T "SNAKES" THEN YOU THOUGHT "TURNS PEOPLE TO STONE" IN WHICH CASE "SNAKES" WILL BE THE SECOND THING YOU THINK OF

OTHER LIBERTIES TAKEN WITH HISTORICAL AND/OR LEGENDARY FIGURES DOES NOT CHANGE THAT THIS IS COMPLETE BULLSHIT

[HelenXonpool !a0yHhBwvus No.]

Perhaps they've somehow failed to notice how...

Misunderstood - Not really, just completely lacking social intelligence after having spent most her life eating people on a desert island.
Glasses - Just there to keep random people around her from turning into stone.
Onee-sama - More like obsessively overprotective.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2343838
Well, she is shown as she was BEFORE turning into a monster.
Whether she has snake hair in the monster form or not, you are never shown.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2343838
I think the king Arthur's would get along after the initial fighting.

What with being King Arthur and all.
They'd probably end up blaming Merlin unanimously for the others existence and hold it to no fault of the others.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2343838
>>2343862

Yeah, but the fight between Gilgameshes will shake the world.

Notice that the only thing Gilgamesh is afraid of is himself--his ANGRY self.

[Anonymous No.]

The Gilgameshes destroy each other over who gets to say "And I'll form the head!" when their spaceships combine.

[HelenXonpool !a0yHhBwvus No.]

>>2343876
>>2343889

Either that, or foursome with the Enkidus and make up.
Doubt even Gil's Jupiter-sized ego is big enough to resist that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2343847
I still bet once she finds out that people aren't so bad she'll finally understand true love. :3

[DevilKing !WNk8lcyPqE No.]

Hindu Mythology was here, Greek Mythology is shit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2343648
She rapes them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2344204
>>2344204

Oh, she thinks humans are quite good....especially with a1 steak sauce or chopped nuts.

[Arcueid Brunestud !ARCIkc4cG6 No.]

This thread is still around? Very well, let me send it to its doom with one final hurrah.

[Arcueid Brunestud !ARCIkc4cG6 No.]

[Arcueid Brunestud !ARCIkc4cG6 No.]

[Arcueid Brunestud !ARCIkc4cG6 No.]

[Arcueid Brunestud !ARCIkc4cG6 No.]

[Arcueid Brunestud !vFAGGOTylQ No.]

I WANT RIDER TO BE MY OLDER SISTER, I THINK SHE WOULD TREAT ME NICE. MY SISTER IS NICE TOO, WHEN SHE'S NOT FLINGING HER STUFF AT ME. OR RIPPING APART MY DOLLIES.

I THINK RIDER WOULD LET ME RIDE IN THE BACKSEAT INSTEAD OF THE TRUNK.

LOVES AND KISSES

[Pygmalion !rNk8s6TM.Q No.]

>Greek mythology in general is welcomed.
Hi.

[Arcueid Brunestud !ARCIkc4cG6 No.]

>>2346221

Welcome. How nice of you to join us.