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2340825 No.2340825 [Reply] [Original]

So, /jp/, I've been watching "Casshern"(film version) this morning(it's nearly 4 in the morning), and I'm waiting for megavideo to let me watch the rest. I'm about halfway through and I must say it's possibly the most incredible film I've ever had the opportunity to watch.
Seriously. less than Five minutes into the film I thought to myself: "This just might be the best film I've ever seen." and halfway in it seems a pretty good assessment.
Anyone else really like this film?

>> No.2340828

I haven't seen the film, though I enjoyed the show.

>> No.2340832

I've heard it's not very good, but I haven't seen it, so ¯\(º_o)/¯

also...
>DR490NW4RRI0R
what

>> No.2340835

The only thing I know about that movie is that it was directed by Utada Hikaru's ex-husband.

That and I hear it's bad.

>> No.2340836

>>2340832
He's a dragon that battles other dragons. Pretty obvious.

>> No.2340849

It's very over the top, has a ham-handed anti-war message, and tries too hard to be artsy.

Not a bad movie, but far from great. Interesting SFX.

>> No.2340855

heard it sucked, never watched it

>> No.2340857

As far as i remember, it was okay. Nothing special. Its been years since i last saw it.

>> No.2341148

ALright. Finally finished the film and it's damn near 6 AM. I'm surprised how underappreciated it is.
I wasn't such a big fan of the last 20 minutes or so of the film and it felt unresolved and openended, but overall I still say it's definitely one of the best films I've ever seen, perhaps even THE best.

>> No.2341158

>>2341148
Different tastes etc.
I prefer deep movies and other intellectual stuff that makes me look smart.

>> No.2341176

>>2341158
It was a very intellectual movie when you think about it. It just requires that you look at every aspect of it, and read between the lines when it comes to the story. The way I interpreted it, the message is less what is said than what is implied by what is said, and how it's juxtaposed with what is and isn't happening.
Yes, it has a strongly anti-war bias, not that that's bad or good, it's just an idea behind a larger idea, that idea being that humanity is more than the ideas of good or evil, black and white. The idea that we exist in ourselves, for ourselves, for our selfishness and selflessness all at once. That violence is an expression deeper than humanity, comparable to love, Love and hate being two sides of the same coin. That contradiction in co-existance is the essence or harmony and life.

At least, that's a small part of what I draw from the ideas of the film and story.

>> No.2341184

Good god, take off your weeaboo goggles. This is easily one of the worst films ever made.

I watched up until the whole Robot uprising part and just switched it off. It's terrible and you are terrible for liking it.

>> No.2341199

>>2341176
lol troll

shit movie btw

>> No.2341249

Ye it's quite shitty, the fighting scenes... just no.

>> No.2341257

Reading OP's post I'm laughing as hard as the rest of the audience was laughing while watching the movie. I guess the verdict is unintentionally hilarious.

>> No.2341262

>>2340825
It makes little sense in the middle, but I liked it much. Very touching... dont care what the rest of the world thinks about it.

>> No.2341273

I recognize it was a shitty movie, but i still guiltily kind of liked it ...

Probably because of the OST. I'm listening to it right now

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>> No.2341307

I thought it was a very interesting movie...and if you compare it with Hollywood, of course you're going to see a difference. There aren't really any other places with as much production power.

The ending was just a huge WTF, though. Everything leading up to it was so dramatic, and then the movie just went "poof."

>> No.2341333

>>2341176
I haven't seen the film, personally, but what you've synthesized for us here is more or less what one could pull from nearly ANY piece of media with any pretensions towards an ethical, humanistic or humanity-affirming message. The content of its thematic or thetical message(s) doesn't necessary confirm or ensure the aesthetic or artistic success of the film, nor does it promise that the articulation, development or treatment of these messages is carried out deftly. Ideally, the thematic underpinnings of a work should be dealt with with sufficient intellectual sophistication so as to effect the problematization (or at least intimate it) of what otherwise would be its principal ideological vector.

>> No.2341346

i saw it and i thought it was horrible

>> No.2341420

>>2341333
too much 'or'

>> No.2341428

>>2341420
JUST KEEPIN' MY OPTIONS OPEN.

>> No.2341493

The only part you should watch is when Casshern fights Dante and his robots in the city. Five minutes of pure FUCK YEAR

>> No.2342836

>>2341184
I'm not a weeaboo, and I rather take offence to that statement.
I am neither obsessed with japan nor do I want to be japanese. I'm white and damn proud of it.
Still, I enjoyed watching Casshern. I've been wanting to see it for some time and found the concept interesting. I do feel that around the ending of the film the plot just went to shit and everything stopped making sense, but it's still one of the most visually stunning films I've ever seen with one of the most interesting messages I've ever seen, delivered in one of the strangest ways I've ever seen.
I liked the film. I thought it was a good film, especially compared to all the shit hollywood puts out these days. As an aspiring writer and director I rather despise the generic and predictable shit that hollywood has settled into, and Find myself hard pressed to find a movie I really, truly enjoy watching, thus, finding a movie such as casshern that manages to feel both original and interesting(I have not seen the anime series, so the film is still original to me), makes me feel rather ecstatic. If you don't like the film, fine, but there's entirely no need to insult me for liking it.

>> No.2342856

Fairly shitty film. Watch Avalon instead.

kthxbye.

>> No.2342863

>>2342836

>I'm not a weeaboo
gtfo of /jp/

>> No.2342883

>>2342836
>As an aspiring writer and director I rather despise the generic and predictable shit that hollywood has settled into

hurr durr, you are liek so unique. With radically rare free thinking like that you're definitely sure to go far.

...If you swoon in this manner over fairly mindless trash like Casshern, you clearly do not watch enough films or have the faintest idea what you are talking about.

*giggle* Good luck with your aspiring writing and directorial career. *giggle*

>> No.2342888

>>2342883
Stop giggling. What are you, a girl?!

>> No.2342894

>>2342888

SOUND THE ALARM!

>> No.2342896

>>2342836
>If you don't like the film, fine, but there's entirely no need to insult me for liking it.

Well, this is 4chan's modus operandi. While it's undoubtly true that it isn't necessary, you can't really argue with a social convention.

>>2342863
What do you mean? None of us here are weeaboos.

>> No.2342905

>>2342896
>What do you mean? None of us here are weeaboos.
lol

>> No.2342917

>>2342883
Gee, I hope you realize you sound a lot more of a pretentious faggot than the guy you try to accuse of it.

>> No.2342924

casshern is made of retarded plot and bad cg

>> No.2342926

>>2342905
>lol

Oh, I see, /a/ invaded us. Let me retract my previous statement, then. I was talking about the usual /jp/ audience.

>> No.2342936

you now realize this show shares ALL of its music with bleach.
Manually.

Also I love the ending credit song "dareka no negai ga kanau koro" by Utada Hikaru. Simply wonderful.

>> No.2342940

The film is eye candy and nothing else. Everything else about it is crap. The eye candy though is mouth watering.

>> No.2342950

>>2342917
I'm perfectly content being a pretentious faggot. -At least I have the grounds to do so. ^___^

>> No.2342960

Casshern Sins > Casshern OVA > Original Casshern >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Casshern live action film

>> No.2342964

>>2342856
Ah yeah Avalon.
I liked that movie far better than Casshern. It had a pretty well made Matrix like feel, and an interesting story to boot.

>> No.2343039

>>2342964
>Matrix like feel
fffffffffffffffu

The Matrix.. You mean the film that raped and pillaged Mamoru Oshii's Ghost in the Shell, has a 'feel' like Mamoru Oshii's live action film Avalon.

>> No.2343045

>>2342950
If you're pretentious, you don't have grounds for whatever pretences you have. By definition. That's the whole point of the word.

>> No.2343056

>>2343045
Touché.

>> No.2343088

I admit I haven't seen Casshern, so I don't mean to compare the two, but... Avalon is quite possibly one of the worst movies I've ever seen. Even Matrix, as bad as it was, had at least some entertainment value. Avalon was just ugly and pointless. Something mysterious and unexplained happening in virtual reality might have been a valid storytelling idea 40 years ago when it had at least some novelty value, but not now. Now it needs some goddamn substance.

>> No.2343220

ITT we shit-talk all movies mentioned regardless of popularity, visuals or story.

>> No.2343309

>>2340825 Seriously. less than Five minutes into the film I thought to myself: "This just might be the best film I've ever seen." and halfway in it seems a pretty good assessment.

I can't understand why you'd think like that. I think it was the most melodramatic overdone piece of crap on serve at the movie festival the year it came out.

Visually impressive though, but every character in the movie took about ten minutes to die while coughing last words.

God dammit man. But, different tastes, what gives.

>> No.2343322

>>2343088
Regarding Avalon: seconded. I found nothing of value in that movie.

>> No.2343387

crappy movie was crap

>> No.2343445

>>2343322
I found nothing of value in your opinion.

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trolls trolling trolls troll trolls

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