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233907 No.233907 [Reply] [Original]

Declan's Read/WriteKanji, cost me 16 dollars and it got all 1945 must-learn Kanji, it has the stroke order on all of the, on and kun readings, and a bunch of other features.

I can't believe I wasted all those money on kanji books, instead of buying this program immediately

>> No.233912

so... you're going to upload it for us, right?

>> No.233921

>>233907
And risk getting my register code blacklisted? I don't think so....

>> No.233932

so then you work for the company, and decided this would be a good place to advertise.

>> No.233938

Well, he's probably right..

>> No.233954

>>233932
Nope, it's me. I thought I'd be nice and give a good advice faggot. I've spent a few hundred dollars on learn kanji books,and this software was worth more than all of them together.

>> No.234011

http://www.mininova.org/tor/692454

ITT we buy software

fucking sage

i hope you get cancer OP

>> No.234019

>>233954

Damn I left /a/ because of this trolling faggot and now I see him on /jp/?

God, please die.

>> No.234054

>>234011
fucking idiot

>> No.234075

>>233954
reason to sage

>> No.234080

>>234054
just finished downloading

enjoy paying for software

>> No.234090

Who would pay for stuff when you can get pretty much anything cracked/FOS for teh free.

Anyway, I appreciate the effort, but don't pay for stuff in the future. It's like buying mineral water.

>> No.234095

so where can i pirate this?

>> No.234104

>>234095
0/10

>> No.234105

>>234011
>0 seeds
>0 leechers

well it is the thought that counts anyway...

>> No.234111

by using different sites you can have pretty much everything this soft has to offer + tons more :3

>> No.234143
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234143

nearly finished downloading

>> No.234179

There's a virus in the Japanese Dictionary and ReadWrite Kanji keygens. Though the rest seemed fine I wouldn't download that torrent.

>> No.234182

>>234105
It has seeds and I'm one of them

>> No.234176

Heisig's "Remembering the Kanji" is all you need for a good start to the written Japanese language.
Enjoy learning 10 kanji a week, while I learn 20 a day.

>> No.234189

lrnj.com :3

I saved the princess, and I'm up to 523 kanji after about a month of casual playing.

I'm going to join the book club and read the 404 girl comic. :3

>> No.234195

>>234179
>a virus in the Japanese Dictionary and ReadWrite Kanji keygens
antivirus software picking up "viruses" in keygens is just their shitty heuristics picking up a program that modifies registry entries.

>> No.234198

torrent works fine.
program works fine.
you're all idiots, especially OP.

btw, OP, thanks. Nice program.

>> No.234212

Is there something like that but with kana? I'm having a big test in japanese in about 2 weeks and I must at least know every hiragana. I know like five of them.

>> No.234215

>>234212
you're clearly an idiot and don't deserve to pass

enjoy your ignorance

>> No.234221

here you fags go
kana, kanji, dictionary...
i can't get the japanese fonts to work on my computer though...and when i click "no" it doesn't give me any instructions

anyone got any ideas?

http://rapidshare.com/files/43170835/Declan_Japanese.rar
link for rapidshit

>> No.234224

>>234212
You can learn it in a day or two, stop being such a lazy faggot.

>> No.234245

>>234195
most keygens install trojans, enjoy your identity theft and aids.

>> No.234271

>>233907
>>234011
This is what happens when one tried to advertise a product on 4chan.

>> No.234275
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234275

>>234245
>most keygens install trojans
Enjoy your paranoia-induced spending

I'll enjoy my not giving a shit

>> No.234320

>>234212
This is what happens when weeaboos learn japanese "officially" before they get familiar with it on their own as good as they can.

>>234215
>>234224
What these men say.

>>234221
> i can't get the japanese fonts to work on my computer though...and when i click "no" it doesn't give me any instructions
lolwut

>>234271
Stop reading my mind. :3

>> No.234381

>>234271
>tried

change that to tries

>> No.234391

>>234381
Delete the posts
Type them out again
???
PROFIT!

>> No.234412

use jwpce. its free.

>> No.234413

>>234391
not my post

>> No.234446
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234446

>>234412

I second this. JWPCE is win and gold.

>> No.234672

>>234446
Not the best around, but decent and - if you mind that - legal.

>> No.234759

>>234672
I used it a veeery long while ago for learning so I kind of love it. ;_;

Also at first it may look plain and boring but when you look into the bits and pieces it has loads of useful stuff.

>> No.234755

>>234672
I used it a veeery long while ago for learning so I kind of love it. ;_;

Also at first it may look plain and boring at first but when you look into the bits and pieces it has loads of useful stuff.

>> No.234756

>1945 must-learn Kanji
LOL, I've given up on Kanji a long time ago. Hiragana ftw!

>> No.234773

>>234756
Enjoy.

>> No.234806

>>234176
Bullshit. Heisig can't offer anything that this software doesn't have. I learned six 8-stroke-Kanji within a few minutes just a ew hours ago. The software has an stroke order animation feature,which makes it a lot easier to remember a kanji than heisig.

>> No.234946

>>234806

> Bullshit. Heisig can't offer anything that this software doesn't have. I learned six 8-stroke-Kanji within a few minutes just a ew hours ago.

D00d like everything is good if you use it properly, especially if it works for you.

> The software has an stroke order animation feature,which makes it a lot easier to remember a kanji than heisig.

OK, but it's served to you on a dish plate. Some people prefer to dig the tubes for such stuff, some don't.

>> No.234953

>>234806
>I learned six 8-stroke-Kanji within a few minutes
lol

8/10

>> No.234966

>>234946
Let's say you've found a kanji you've never seen before. Copy/paste into the software and you'll get the kun readings,the on readings, the meaning of the kanji and the stroke order.

Heisig can't do that.

>> No.234972

Out of curiosity, is there any quick and fast rule for when you should use the ON reading and the KUN reading for the kanji?

>> No.234985

>>234972
Usually, when you find two or more kanji glued together, you read them using the ON reading, but if if the kanji is by itself it usually has the KUN reading.

>> No.234993

>>234953
I'm ready to believe it cause it's like totally possible, unless he's BSing LOL.

>>234966
> Let's say you've found a kanji you've never seen before. Copy/paste into the software and you'll get the kun readings,the on readings, the meaning of the kanji and the stroke order.
OK

>Heisig can't do that.
He's an old man now, leave him alone looool.

>> No.234999

>>234972
No, what >>234985 says holds true for many examples but there are just as many exceptions to the rule.

>> No.235007

Jesus, don't pay money for a reference program.

The KANJIDIC project (an offshoot of the EDICT dictionary project) gives way more. And there are free libraries of stroke animations.

sage for shilling

>> No.235014

>>234972

> Out of curiosity, is there any quick and fast rule for when you should use the ON reading and the KUN reading for the kanji?

compounds (like 日本放送協会) - ON
japanese words 空　花　心 - Kun

>> No.235016

I fail at saging

>> No.235017

>>234999
So... names go under as kun?

>> No.235027

>>235017
Again, it depends. Mostly kun readings though.

>> No.235032

>>234999
he said
> is there any quick and fast rule
ie quick and dirty & never mind exceptions
lrn2rd sir

>> No.235033

So, who thinks OP is the guy who owns the program?

>> No.235039

>>234993
Why is it hard to believe? Kanji isn't that hard to learn when you repeat writing them down 5-6 times each.

>> No.235056

>>235007
What this man says.

>>235017
no, Nanori
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nanori

>>235027
nope

>>235033
me

>> No.235057

>>235039

So, who thinks this is OP, and also the software maker, finding excuses to bump this thread and continue shilling?

>> No.235065

鸚鱻龞鼺髖驫轥

>> No.235068

Anyway, this is some serious bullshit. You can put together a reference program like this from free-licensed stuff in a couple days of programming. Total scam.

>> No.235074

>>235017
Names are a combination of ON, KUN and readings used just in names. If you know both the ON and KUN readings of the kanji though it'll be fairly easy to figure out most of them by sound.

>> No.235089

>>235065
Oh man, don't post that evil ching chong wing wong shit.

I'm TRYING to learn kanji. I don't need that kind of discouragement.

>> No.235101

>>235065
鑫森淼焱垚犇骉羴猋麤鱻蟲贔掱劦晶磊姦聶轟毳畾飝刕叒壵尛孨歮惢皛嚞舙譶
雥灥飍馫飝厵靐龘叒品瞐舙雥雦鑫矗灥飍馫

>> No.235106

>>235039
>Why is it hard to believe?
I said I'm ready to believe. lrn2rd

> Kanji isn't that hard to learn when you repeat writing them down 5-6 times each.
Whatever works for you.

>> No.235115

Names are impossible to read. Don't even fucking try. Any combination of kanji can stand for any pronunciation, and any pronunciation can be written with any fucking characters.

>> No.235121

>>235065
How are you even supposed to read that on any normal resolution/text-size? 鱻 is just three black blots.

>> No.235127

>>235039
"Learn" is more complex than just repeating it immediately afterwards.
You have to be able to do it quickly and even after weeks later.
If you can't you just have the illusion to learn, nothing is going to remain.

>> No.235129

>>235074
That's something I'm a little confused about. Say someone has the kanji "川" but somehow, instead of "kawa" it's "gawa".

Still learning bit by bit.

>> No.235139

>>235101
Hey, I know some of these!

森 this one means "forest" もり
晶 this one, I think is "sparkling" or something (pretty sure it's non-general-use)
品 this one is "good" ひん

>> No.235156

>>235068
what this man says

>>235074
True, it can be a lot more easy but nanori has it's own rules. Like 満月 can be みつき for example just because the parents wanted it to be that way.

> I'm TRYING to learn kanji. I don't need that kind of discouragement.
Face your opponent with courage, not fear. Start with memorizing a few very difficult ones. The general use kanji will look like childplay.

>> No.235158

>>235121
On my computer, it looks like "fish" (魚 - さかな) stacked up 3 times together.

Although they are hard to make out.

>> No.235163

>>235121

I'm pretty sure the ancient Chinese who created the characters didn't have low resolution font legibility in mind.

>> No.235166

>>235033
everyone.

>> No.235174

>>235068
what this man says

>>235074
True, it can be a lot more easy but nanori has it's own rules. Like 満月 can be みつき for example just because the parents wanted it to be that way.

>>235089
> I'm TRYING to learn kanji. I don't need that kind of discouragement.
Face your opponent with courage, not fear. Start with memorizing a few very difficult ones. The general use kanji will look like childplay.

>> No.235177

>>235139
Isn't the last one "article"

In fact, that's the only kanji I can remember since it's essentially just three boxes

>> No.235208

>>234412
What a coincidence, so is Declan's product.

>> No.235199

>>235139

Don't forget 姦 meaning "rape", among other things.
It's not general use, but it deserves to be god damnit. How else are you supposed to write 強姦?

>> No.235221

>>235199
Three women = RAEP RAEP RAEP

Goddamn, I'm learning today

>> No.235248

>>235221

Woman 女 + House 家 = Waifu 嫁
Because woman goes in house.

>> No.235269

This mcfuckis beats all.

http://rikaichan.mozdev.org/

>> No.235270

>>235199
I always learned it as three women being really noisy, as in 姦しい.

>> No.235294

強姦 Strong rape? What does that even mean.

Anyway, like I mentioned before, I like the lrnj.com game, although it's not finished. I learned hiragana and katakana, and to recognize a bunch of kanji. The guy's been putting up new versions quite a lot lately, so hopefully it will be sort of done soon.

The free version used to be good for katakana and hiragana, but it looks like he took that out... at least you can learn a couple hundred kanji and get started, though.

The graphics are ugly, and the story is fucking pathetic, but it has funny mnemonics and it makes you review.

I thought it was more done when I paid for it, but it's not that bad...
(sue me, I'm stupid)

>> No.235305

>>235269
YES! Rikaichan is awesome!

AWESOME AWESOME AWESOME

>> No.235318
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>>235115
> Names are impossible to read.
> impossible to read.
> impossible
Why does it sound somewhat familiar?

> Don't even fucking try.
Nah.

> Any combination of kanji can stand for any pronunciation, and any pronunciation can be written with any fucking characters.
True, awsum isn't it?

>>235121
the 4chan default font size isn't well adjusted for japanese, also those dots are shapes. btw can you read the text on this pic (latin chars we're all so used to), cause I can.

>> No.235335

Why would people pay for software?
For the karma.
That's why.
What do you expect to come back as in the next life?

>> No.235345

>>235199

>How else are you supposed to write 強姦?

i miss read that maybe? "強strong 姦rape"?

>> No.235337

>>235294
It's more like 'strong seduction'. Which is rape.

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235348

>>235337
So it's not what you do when you rape Strong Machine 2?

>> No.235359

>>235348
Not recommended

>> No.235361

>>235294
Aw jeez, I can remember that game when I first started learning. Gave up on it and just learnt hirigana and katakana with flash cards.

>> No.235379

>>235337
>>235345

It just means "rape", you double niggers.

>> No.235380

>>235359
I bet she'd be awesome in the sack, when she grows up a little more.

>>235361
It works better for kanji than for kana. The guy took the hiragana and katakana out of the free version recently, and says he's doing a new style of hiragana training soon.

...which I don't really give a shit about. I wish he'd just finish the story. :(

>> No.235391

Rape = "surprise sex"

>> No.235405

>>235335
As long as it isn't an underpaid garage programmer I'm fine with stealing software.

>> No.235453

>>235335
I'm going to comeback as a Donkey in Tijuana.

>> No.235468

>>235294
it's an actual word he didn't make this up LOL
強姦 [ごうかん] /(n,vs) violation/rape/

>>235335
Yeah, sure, hold on a second. Piracy is not morally wrong (although some companies may want you to believe it is) It won't affect your karma rorz

>>235380
> The guy took the hiragana and katakana out of the free version recently
This makes me want NOT to buy his soft even more ;_; bastard

>> No.235479

http://chaosforge.org/taw/jrpg/

>> No.235485

You shouldn't download the cracks. They have viruses in them,and Declan will track you down anyway....

>> No.235487

>>235453
and I'm coming back on mars right before we blew ourselves up

>> No.235497

>>235485

> You shouldn't download the cracks. They have viruses in them,and Declan will track you down anyway....

Do what you want and be ready to pay the consequences. :3

>> No.235512

>>235485
You mean "track you down and invalidate the serial" or "track you down and show up at your door with cops?" I'm fine with the first.

>> No.235525

>>235468
> The guy took the hiragana and katakana out of the free version recently

>This makes me want NOT to buy his soft even more ;_; bastard

Well, he says it's just until he puts it back in in a better way. At least one of the two.

It used to teach katakana, then hiragana, and then kanji all in the same quest, so you'd be trying to study kanji, and it would throw review hiragana at you, and you'd get a weird obsolete one like ゐ, and it would fuck up your training for the day.

I like it better with them separate, but I already know katakana and hiragana, so I guess that's obvious.

>> No.235534
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235534

>>235485
>You shouldn't download the cracks. They have viruses in them,and Declan will track you down anyway....

>> No.235537

>>235512
The latter.

>> No.235547
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235547

>ゐ

てゐ!!!

>> No.235549

>>235525

> Well, he says it's just until he puts it back in in a better way. At least one of the two.

lol okay, not that much up to date with that game

>> No.235554

you dont need any kind of fucking program to learn kana. make flashcards. learning kana is pathetically easy. its not something to feel proud of.

>> No.235570

>>235537
Just don't shit in your pants, kay? :3

>> No.235576

>>235537
Just don't shit your pants, kay? :3

>> No.235594

>>235525
How the fuck do you enter moon runes in lrnj?

>> No.235599

can't believe no one mentioned this
http://wakan.manga.cz/

>> No.235632

>>235594
protip: you use the keyboard

>> No.235656

>>235549
I'm fucking obsessed. It's the only thing I've done that makes kanji stick (okay... I haven't tried very hard at anything else, so...), and he keeps promising awesome new stuff...

Like the book club. They're doing the Yotsuba comic now, so I want to join, but I don't know how well it's going to be run...

>> No.235664

Sorry for asking again but I still don't know the question in >>235129

>> No.235710

>>235632
Yeah, but how do I make my 'merican keyboard type moon runes?

>> No.235718

>>235664
You mean the answer (not questoin), right? ror It's gawa when it's attached to some other word and when turning k to g just sounds right. Like a and an in english (well not exacly, in english it's more strict I guess :3). Don't bother learning any rules just try to HEAR when it sounds ok and when it doesn't.

ときどき　かたがた　たびたび　はなばな　etc :3

>> No.235719

>>235710
Something to do with your keyboards in control panel

>> No.235726

>>235710
regional settings.

>> No.235729

>>235718
Thanks. I was kinda confused as to why people have gawa when the kanji is kawa which I couldn't find in my dictionary

>> No.235775

>>235525
>ゐ

what the FUCK?

>> No.235784

Torrent is full of virus, scanned with Free-Av, the only one able to detect a shitload of virus, even if they're jokes or stupid things.

Torrent Declared, Non Secure.

>> No.235795

>>235775
obsolete "i"

>> No.235801

>>235775
ゐ　ゑ
ヰ　ヱ
Wi We

Their use is practically nil these days.

>> No.235812

>>235801
lol i guess... been learning japanese for 3 years now and i've never seen those.

>> No.235820

>>235784
> Torrent is full of virus, scanned with Free-Av, the only one able to detect a shitload of virus, even if they're jokes or stupid things.
You sound like a pussy. ror Also, there are many other ways of obtain software than just using torrents. No one is forcing you to anything.

>> No.235814

>>235784
So delete the viruses, and use it anyway, lols.

>> No.235830

>>235820
>magic_usagi

>> No.235831

>>235784
> Torrent is full of virus, scanned with Free-Av, the only one able to detect a shitload of virus, even if they're jokes or stupid things.
You sound like a pussy. ror Also, there are many other ways of obtaining software than just using torrents. No one is forcing you to anything.

>> No.235841

>>235830
I'm glad you like it >.>

>> No.235842

>>235784
Stop shilling your shit software here.

http://www.4chan.org/rules.php
> Advertising (all forms) is also not welcome—this includes any type of referral linking.

>> No.235855

http://www.realkanji.com/

>> No.235856

>>235842
It's not like anyone's that willing to get his soft anyway.

>> No.235874

so, what's the best program?

>> No.235883

>>235874
depends what you need and what tools/interface you prefer

>> No.236001

I've decided to learn the kanji in grade-school order

is there any place online that has reading material divided into grades? I've searched teh googles, but turned up with naught

>> No.236006

>>236001
buy a book

failing that, steal a book

>> No.236007

>>236001
www.wikipedia.org

>> No.236022

>>236001

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kyoiku_kanji

>> No.236032

>>236001
KANJIDIC has grade-level data, so if you search on that, you'll probably find something that suits you.

The EDICT project is the cheap-ass Japanese student's best friend. Even Rikai-chan is based on it.

>> No.236033

>>236022
>>236007
i KNOW the kanji and the ORDER in which they come...

im talking about children's books/stories
Things with ONLY the kanji that a 1st grader would know...etc

>> No.236041

>>236001
Why would you learn them that way anyway? I just learn the kanji's I see in newspapers and stuff, makes it a lot easier to remember them.

>> No.236051

>>236033
I am learning kanji with doraemon

you can too, or not.

>> No.236053

>>236041
frankly, because since it's the way they learn it in schools, i thought that there would be reading material available for it...

newspapers and stuff has good things for remembering it, but then I don't have a set order to go in

>> No.236054

>>236033
You stupid fuck,why don't you say that beforehand??! Go buy children's furigana books you stupid cunt,or visit your public library.

>> No.236070

>>236066
Learn reading comprehension you stupid nigger. And since this is my thread I'm deleting it now.

>> No.236066

>>236054
>is there any place online that has reading material divided into grades?
>is there any place online that has reading material
>reading material

dumbfuck, learn to read before you act like a jackass

>> No.236079

>>236070
so you're an advertising jackass who is no help to anyone but yourself

way to go

>> No.236096

you're both fags

learn to use books

>> No.236121

>>236096
requesting recommendations

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