/tmg/ - Type-Moon General

[Anonymous No.]

This is a place to enjoy and discuss the works by Kinoko Nasu / TYPE-MOON.

>Complete TYPE-MOON PC Game Collection in Japanese
https://mega.nz/#F!BA4yHYoT!NwGVKj4q9Z1vnpKlYY-4UQ

>Kara no Kyoukai the Garden of sinners
Kara no Kyoukai novel (Japanese)
https://itazuraneko.neocities.org/shousetu/b/%E5%A5%88%E9%A0%88%E3%81%8D%E3%81%AE%E3%81%93_%E7%A9%BA%E3%81%AE%E5%A2%83%E7%95%8C/index.html
English translations by cokesakto
https://emptyboundaries.wordpress.com/2011/07/25/kara-no-kyokai-translations-2/
Kara no Kyoukai Anime Movies
https://nyaa.si/view/264295
Kara no Kyoukai Manga
https://nyaa.si/view/1187963
>Tsukihime (Moon Princess)
Tsukihime
https://mega.nz/#!6TBSSTbR!4O6JYv1dyyRw7GQeHJ4NIUYUTQ--tuy9H8s69HgL5lY
Tsukihime PLUS-DISC
https://nyaa.si/view/453758
Tsukihime Kagetsu Tohya
https://sukebei.nyaa.si/view/2502321
Tsukihime Manga (English)
https://mega.nz/#F!dRwwAZrT!uxmDDlwDTu3bgo9QIKgSrQ
>Melty Blood
MELTY BLOOD PC Collection (updated 2018-05-30)
https://nyaa.si/view/1042489
MBAACC - Community Edition
https://mega.nz/#!6FUx2C6a!L2AxbiQzPHtgRI3YPHv4NZfi2EYS9RMeNHoSp6pAcFw
Melty Blood Manga
https://mega.nz/#F!syICRSJI!TeAS9ZVFSDQigguqxn_MwA
Melty Blood - Back Alley Alliance Nightmare Manga
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/16jgRv-WneCDBF324U_MFsuguPFTt2J0S
>Fate
Fate stay night [Réalta Nua]
https://sukebei.nyaa.si/view/2725572
Fate hollow ataraxia
https://sukebei.nyaa.si/view/2575055
Fate Zero
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B-5XtCxJULf4YWZfSkZKWGc2S2M
Lord El-Melloi II's Case Files
https://forums.nrvnqsr.com/showthread.php/5943-Lord-El-Melloi-II-Case-Files?p=3041785&viewfull=1#post3041785
>Mahou Tsukai no Yoru (Witch On The Holy Night)
VN: https://mega.nz/#F!YVkkhAjQ!Ggu2BS3MDfaofporByJsFw
English Patch: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1nUY3G5Z8tgBnfvELhbLiYhmLolDI2TwC/
French Patch: https://github.com/IDerr/mahoyo-french

Other works
>Angel Voice (A doujin anthology that contains the short novel "Notes." written by Nasu, and the Manga "clowick canaan-vail" drawn by Takeuchi.)
http://www.mediafire.com/file/4w9jk2bwy8b0xsh/Angel_Notes.zip
>Fate Apocrypha
https://fateapocryphathetranslation.wordpress.com/
>Fate Extra
https://cdromance.com/psp/fate-extra-mod/
>Fate Grand Order -mortalis:stella-
https://mega.nz/#!rxtB2Qxb!QKJVSuojZY0r4-EEi-47iFocseyb7qM_dMtuFHru0Y4
>Fate Prototype: Fragments of Sky Silver
https://mega.nz/#!aAsCybqb!WwnKiMn_HK9HqvA_myhLn5GM0yeAv8TTxyQsWWpqaGs
>Fire Girl
https://firegirlthetranslation.wordpress.com/
>Mahou Tsukai no Hako: Starlit Marmalade manga
http://www.mediafire.com/folder/lli17cum6jzg7/Marmalade
>Tsuki no Sango (Moon's Coral)
https://www.mediafire.com/?uq1eqhccbxhxktx
>Tsuki no Sango (Moon's Coral) Manga
https://mangadex.org/chapter/773842/1

Other links
>Beast's Lair
forums.nrvnqsr.com
>Encyclopedia of Type Moon
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B49crU71miHObWRvV2tDUllYTjQ
>Fate complete material II Character material
https://pastebin.com/Zjy1Sj6d
>Fate Franchise Loseless Soundtracks
https://mega.nz/#F!OQwx1DYA!1c0Dkm1VfOPpthg6etuU4g
>mirrormoon
http://mirrormoon.org/
>Type-Moon Comic Ace
https://web-ace.jp/tmca/
>TMdict: (a light-weight, multi-lingual TYPE-MOON glossary)
tmdict.com/
>Tsuki-kan (comprehensive record of real-world statements, interviews, Q&As, feature articles, etc)
tsukikan.com/
>Tsukihime Archives
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1NBqMPjBkGiNk9vIgOtPyjNnpxeH5fmHI
>Tsukihime doujins from 2008
https://mega.nz/#!fHgSVb5L!EPDHKU2KHLdjW1bM2b0-VV7WzrA9xPqrLnJTu0AkwyY
>TYPE-MOON 10th Anniversary Phantasm translation
http://heavens-feel.com/type-moon_10_anniversary_phantasm_translation.html
>Type-Moon Mega folders
https://mega.nz/#F!tBRTDDLT!6-uk9SmrvHKLFYU_3QTwgQ
https://mega.nz/#F!IEgnySDK!wvEo43UGmHFEKC1JBVykGw
>TM Mega Pastebin
https://pastebin.com/7W19Hevb

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>>23365099
Good OP.

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the path to the swirl of the root is a physical location?
I always thought it was an abstract thing

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>>23366832
it's both, but I'm not too sure.

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This thread was made like 4 hours ago. Why are you making them so soon?

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>>23366843
We kept using the old one till it was archived lmao

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>>23366897
But why. /jp/ is a slow board.

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>>23366926
I guess because of shitposting about kusoge and leaks, and that tends to pile up rather quickly

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what happens to sojuuro after mahoyo?
do we have any words on this? The conclusion of the VN leaves the fate of the two protags that aren't aoko much more incertain than in stay night or KnK

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>>23367160
Wait until parts 2&3 get released.

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>>23367225
that's never gonna happen is it?

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>>23367160
He is still living in the mansion as their watchdog and implied to have feelings for Aoko. That's all we know

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>>23367265
I'm not sure about this one. He doesn't express anything especially on the return home. Thanking Aoko and stuff was more of his thing and not a show of feelings for her. Aoko was the one who acted weird there.
I'd say that, throughout the whole VN, Alice is the only one that expressly wants Shizuki to stay and blushes because of him on occasions (like when both of them leave for Aoko's grandfather). Aside from this, Aoko says at the epilogue that "She remembered Alice reading this same book earlier in the story" as Alice had found the Rune of Forgetfulness (?), not mentioned it to Aoko, and then hidden the book in the corner of the library. She wanted Shizuki to stay from the beginning.

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>>23367300
It's implied thoughout the written short special coming with the main game. It's about Aoko first love story. At the end, Soujuurou told her he became serious after listening to the story and then added "it is an important problem", leaving Aoko dumbfounded. It set in March.

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>>23367265
I dunno the end of the night of witches made it pretty clear sojuuro wasn't in love with aoko, them coming back on that would be kinda cheap

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>>23367393
Pic related

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>>23367160
>>23367225
>>23367246
>>23367265
>>23367300
>>23367393
>>23367414
>>23367452
Soujuurou is for Alice, how many times must I repeat it.
Also he definitely dies eventually.
Aoko is not romantically involved with anyone, never ever.

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>>23367485
based on what

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waifufags should be hanged

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>>23367497
Facts and logic.
>>23367550
You should be ashamed.

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>>23367497
>Alice is the only one to know about Soujuurou's true scars
>Soujuurou doesn't appear in other media but Aoko in Tsukihime is travelling meaning that the Kuonji Mansion is no more
However, unlike this anon >>23367485 I think that Aoko ends up in love with Soujuurrou but he ends up rejecting her for Alice. >>23367452 and >>23367393 seems to point to that because it's about her first love story (the implication being there might be others, meaning someone broke her heart)

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>>23367497
During the 'Sleeping Alice scene' this is made pretty clear that Alice is already attached to Sou and that she want to talk to him. Nasu really goes into details on how she reacted when they had a simple conversation about nothing that important Alice was already hooked with him from the begining.

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>>23367680
>I think that Aoko ends up in love with Soujuurou but he ends up rejecting her for Alice.
Aoko already friendzoned him.
Aoko has never fallen in love, and probably never will.
This is really not hard to see.

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>>23367860
do you really refuse to believe that she'll fall in love?
is it because you've got the headcanon that she'll fall in love with you?

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>>23367860
>implying people can't change their opinions around
Dude, Mahoyo was the first novel Nasu wrote. It's a common trope for people who write romance when they begin to have a love triangle that starts unrequiered in one way just for the active one to change around for love interest # 2 while the first love interest turns around.

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>>23367902
Not at all, I'm not a retarded waifufaggot.
Aoko is simply a celibate heroine.
>>23367912
It isn't reversing, Aoko and Soujuurou already had their moments in the first part, they are clearly friends only.

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about that short story about Aoko's first love, i've only heard about it but never read it since i'm a EOP but i'm curious, who were the two characters on the cover?

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>>23367939
>the relationship between 2 of the 3 MCs will remain stagnant throughout the next 2/3 of the story
On what kind of shrooms are you on?

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>>23368170
Raidou Kuzunoha the XIV

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>>23367939

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[Anonymous No.]

>>23368170
Left is just a side character
Right is a senpai from school, he had a 2 year long one-sided crush on Aoko. He was the only male character in the whole game that Aoko respected. Aoko mentioned him in chap 8.5. Had Aoko not become a mage and lived a normal life he would have had a realistic chance.

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>>23368282
Slut

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>>23365579
It just doesn't feel like Kirsch at all, for me at least. Especially with the "I don’t know what I truly want, despite this hunger" line since Kirsch does have and know his own goal, though in the same time we know he does realize that he's not perfect, almighty and has weak points as well, but covers it by putting a confident (with a bit arrogant/smug) and emotionless face in front of other Crypters anyway. Meanwhile, Olga is tied with the "no future" or "not being able to reach this future" thing given by Lostroom OVA and what Kirsch told the Priestess in Atlantis (assuming she and Olga have some connections to each other). Gyakko also reflects other thoughts of Olga in Lostroom too as shown in the previous post and this line
>I was melancholic, seeing the same ceiling there every time I woke up,
>Telling me that this is reality – there is no exit from here.
If we go with the Olga = Specimen: E = Alien Miko theory, then the ceiling is likely the one in that Area 51 base's room where those experiments happened. Kirsch also said he would turn the future the Priestess couldn't reach into reality, if anything. Though i wonder if the Specimen: E was still in Area 51 base or not (David Bluebook was going to find it but got shotted before knowing the answer) or already got turned into the Priestess/the Fantasy Tree in Area 51/whatever because the "That I am still fighting, that I am on the other side of the storm" depends on where she is, inside the LB or outside the LB (again, assuming 'the storm' refers to the wall of storm). But in the end, speculation is still speculation anyway.

Also i know those Kirsch/Olga = Shirou/Sakura in HF theories by nips on twitter too. But it's mostly based on in-game story and doesn't have anything to do with Gyakko as far as i remember.

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>>23369005
Can you stop making these long text posts on complete shit no one cares about? Reading these is like giving yourself a seizure, its incomprehensible nonsense lore.

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>>23369083
2deep4you, go back to the kiddie pool

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>>23368176
It is not a romance focused story, it is friend focused.
So Aoko and Soujuurou's relationship will evolve along this path.

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>>23368242
Nice try, but Aoko is not for anyone, only herself.
This is what suits her, simple fact.

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>>23369283
Lore autism is not worth it when the lore setting and the lore itself is so damn atrocious.

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>>23369423
>Aoko is not for anyone
>he doesn't know
Tsukihime and Mahoyo collab soon.

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@23369465
Pathetic.

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>>23369484
meant for>>23369465

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>>23369505
Anon, why did you do that on my behalf, when I did it intentionally since they don't deserve a reply?
Don't answer, I already know.

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>magecraft system: Yumina
but how though? like none of Alice's magical stuff is relevant to Japan, not to mention it's a lineage thing and Alice inherited it from her mother who is definitely not a Japanese

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>>23369423
Mahoyo/Grand Order collab where Aoko falls for the MC soon

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I must say, soujuuro rejecting touko was the most unrealistic part of mahoyo

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>>23369956
Has the name "Yumina" ever been mentioned in other TM material besides that one?

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>>23367802
>>23367680
sojuuro doesn' care for girls and especially not for uggos like alice
he deserves someone kind like tobimaru

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>>23370946
>he deserves someone kind like tobimaru
w-what about Kumari then

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>>23371092
more like kwhomari lmao

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>>23370946
>>23371092

[Anonymous No.]

aoko is for cornelius

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>>23366832
It's "somewhere outside the World" according to CM3

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Aoko is for Reinol Guison
>Miss Aozaki. That was the only other name that existed for Reinol Gusion. She was an exceptionally unusual magus, a free spirit that belonged to no organisation and was shunned by all.

>Just to clarify any misunderstanding, Reinol was incapable of love. What he felt was a kind of pure passion, a determination to definitely win her over this time. After all, he had exhausted his capacity for something as human as love long ago.

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Is there any chance of Heaven's Feel 3 going to VOD or will Aniplex force us to wait until fucking autumn to watch it?
I'd pay 15 bux to rent for 48 hours.

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>just realized that Aoko and Alice actually have voice acting already because of their appearances in Lord of Vermilion
their VAs didn't get revealed though, some vids if anyone cares but it's quite hard to hear due to the sound effects
Aoko: https://sp.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm16642255 and https://sp.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm25812624
Alice: https://sp.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm16642273

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>>23371676
Aoko's voice is okay-tier for me but i love Alice one, it's just really like what i imagined while reading Mahoyo. Though like you said it's pretty difficult to listen to their voice in those vids.

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>>23371676
Would like to hear them without all the other shit going on but neither of them are what I imagined them to be.

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>>23371640
you won't be able to watch it in autumn either unless japan decides to not give a fuck about old people anymore.
even best cares scenarios, excluding one where a miracle cure is teleported to every human on earth, suggest Corona-chan will be around for 1+ year.

Aniplex will try really hard not to release it on streaming though when they should really just give up. Same for hollywood, some low tier movies got put on VOD but everything big is delayed for months or even a whole year. They invest so much money into these movies that not showing it to anymore for a year has the potential to lose them less money than throwing it on netflix only for nobody to watch it

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@23370583
Once again, pathetic.

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@23371271
Keep it up, shitposter.

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>>23371392
Multi personality asexual, nice try.

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>>23372432
how is that shitposting

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>>23372467
That does not need answering.

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Reminder that a literal fucking caveman more than meets the qualifications needed for the position of Grand Saber according to Nasu.

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>>23372427
>>23372432
Just click on their number, fucking newfag autist.

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AOKO LOVES CORNELIUS
AOKO ALBA BORN AOZAKI

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>>23372504
@ posting is for posts which are goddamn trash and don't deserve a (You).
100% intentional.

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Okay, this is dumb now.
Shut up.

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>>23372133
Which is why I fear having them be voiced in the future, it just won't work.
The voices have to line up with the ones in our heads.

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>>23372543
so what you're saying is
they should've been voiced from the start

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>>23372552
If they are voiced in the future or in other works, yes.
Personally I like them being unvoiced, and that is really how it has to stay now unless they find a perfect fit.

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>>23371676
Alice's sounds good, Aoko's seems generic, certainly something I would not look too deeply into.

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in awe at Arc's moe

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ARCUEID LOVES ZERETCH
ARCUEID KISCHUR BORN BRUNESTUD

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Type-Earth

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>>23373103
Type-Jobber

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I wish /jp/ autists would stay out of this thread.
This is a thread in exile, we do not affiliate ourselves with anything outside of here.

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>>23373185
and I wish normalfag /v/edditors would stay out of this thread.
if you don't like /jp/ then don't post in a general on /jp/. go make a /vg/ general or something

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>>23371676
Is it just me or Is Alice sounding like Sakura ?

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>>23373315
/vg/ already has 2 TM based generals and is filled with scumbags.
/tmg/ exists on /jp/ purely because it is the only place it can go, we do not subscribe to /jp/'s current culture of elitist memes and high level repetition of autism.

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>>23373327
>we
speak for yourself

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>>23373327
>we

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>>23373327
I agree

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>>23373327
>because it is the only place it can go
no, there is literally nothing stopping you from making a general on /jp/ for non-fgo content.

if you hate /jp/ so much but have resigned yourself to here because you dislike /vg/ even more, then fine. keep it to yourself though and stop shitting where you eat, it just makes you look retarded

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>>23373351
>on /jp/
*on /vg/

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>>23373360
Mods would probably be annoyed, and threads would not reach bump limit unless guys from the GO generals started shitposting.
/vg/ does not work.

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i like fate

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>>23373378
fate was the ruin of typemoon

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>>23373351
/jp/ is actually worse.
A containment board made to save 4chan from 2hu, that is all it exists for, and now it is leaking out again, but mods these days do not give a shit.
It is and always will be trash, that is all.

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>>23373385
Fuck off doomposter

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>>23373388
So go somewhere else, shit-for-brains.

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>>23373448
Nah, I will openly criticise posters who are clearly from outside the thread.
/tmg/ will be a quasi board all of itself.

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>>23373458
/jp/ was the original board for Type-Moon discussion before complete shiteaters like you managed to find it via FGO on /vg/. Fuck off, you subhuman retard.

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>>23373458
You already outed yourself as a newfag, just fuck off already and go kill yourself.

[Anonymous No.]

I drew this a year ago, who else should I draw horribly?

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Well, this is already the worst thread in months.

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>>23373555
started off okay too,

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>>23367452
What's this?

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>>23369505
based.

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>>23373053
In awe at Arc's moes

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https://e-hentai.org/g/503543/293527ecc4/?p=2

Translation when ?

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>>23371676
Aoko doesn't sound like Mitsuishi... did they recast her?

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>>23368282
textless version when?

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>>23373513

That's actually not that bad ngl lol.

Do neco arc

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>>23365099

I must

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>>23368242

every time I see this gif, I always think she's going to punch me for some reason lol

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>>23375169
>Hey kid wanna some /ss/?

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>>23375410
Aoko isn't fascist.

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>>23375483
There's probably some parallel universe where Hitler is an Aokoface. Trust me, my dad works at type-moon

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Akiha makes me smile.

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>>23371392
So who is for Lev Flauros? Olga? Roman is taken.

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>>23375725
mashu

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>>23375725
Lev Lainur was indeed an important person to Olga, but the demon pillar Flauros sure wasn't.

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>>23375701
Would actually consider based.

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>>23369956
Yumina is the name of Clock Tower's Botany faculty, and we know that faculty name is based on the founder's name
Botany faculty is also called the Witch Studies
Well, there you go

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>>23372477
What does this mean?

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>>23367939
There are plenty of moments where it's heavily implied that Aoko loves Soujuro. Aoko is just tsundere for him. Alice is a bit more honest, but that's only she is too clumsy to hide her feelings properly and thus will let really obvious hints of her jealousy, but of course Soujuro isn't going to pick up on that.
Also, I don't think Aoko would have gone so far as to use the Fifth magic and make permanent changes to the universe just for a "friend". Especially when she is the kind of person who has no issue having deathmatch with her friends.

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Are God powers the same thing as True Magic?

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>>23378964
What the fuck are god powers?

[Anonymous No.]

Mash has the Black Barrel in Olympus
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4UqOhAsr2H8

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>>23379263
Zeus lightning, Medea's magic etc.

Magecraft was invented by Solomon and post-date them by couple thousand years

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>>23379408
No they don't use True Magic

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>>23378964
You mean those like stuff from AoG or what? Though if anything, remember that the Five Magics we know are "Five Magics of Modern Era" to be exact. They weren't magics back in AoG.
>In the past when civilization was less developed, most magi were magicians.
>As civilization developed, the impossible became possible, and many magic devalued into magecraft. >Mysteries, in the face of reality, tasted great defeat.
>———However, even among those, there still exists miracles unreachable by humans.
>Magi who can realize those mysteries are called “magicians,” bearing with them fear and respect, admiration and jealousy.
>In the world of Kara no Kyoukai, there are only five magicians.

Also this Q&A might be helpful
>Q: Caster's ability as a magus is at magician level, but is it possible for Caster (Medea) to become a magician in the future? Also, are there beings that have a "higher level as magi" than the current magicians?
>A: Caster's a magus back in the day that true magic was common so she wouldn't have good affinity with the "Five True Magics of the Modern Era" anyhow, so, she isn't going to be able to pick up True Magic.
>Also there are actually quite a few magi with level higher than the current magicians. In the first place, Aozaki Aoko herself is inferior as a magus than the lecturers of the Clock Tower.

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>>23378964
only human of the age of men can use 'true magic', true magic mystery level isn't even divine, it's on the level of a phanstamal like medusa's pegasus.

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Would illya win against alice

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>Solomon incinerates the entire planet to go back in time
>woah this is close to true magic
>medea teleports in her workshop
>woah this is close to true magic
>alice makes bread men
>woah this is close to true magic

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>>23381343
can shiki kill servants

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>>23381343
no, not at all she only won against Rin because Rinbiggest achievement is casting gandr but Alice is way beyond her lvl.

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>>23381520
and killing heracles despite him having battle continuation A and Endurance A

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>>23381503
Discuss.

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>>23382411
well CLEARLY it's mystery eyes of depth perception so I think ryougi shiki could kill sefvants. tsukihime was retconned so that one doesn't matter.,

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>>23382411
Servants move at insane speeds untrackable by normal humans. I'm not sure ryougi or tohno could catch up with a servant enough to trace the line before they died

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>>23382586
>>23382708
Newfags don't know this is a meme.

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>>23381520
I wish we had more mages who do actual magical stuff like Alice and Touko (to a lesser extent). I get that in combat it make sense to use the "pew pew" kind of magic, but mages using spells that do things beyond that is much more interesting.
It make sense for a brute like Aoko to do nothing but bullets and beams, but Rin was just wasted potential. She's supposed to be a prodigy who can control the five elements and use gemstones as a medium, she could do much cooler things than simply throwing expensive stones and shooting Gandr bullets.
Even Touko eventually falls into bullets and beam spam.

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>>23382799
has it gotten that bad

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>>23382980
Aoko's magecraft is ideal for combat, on top of her excellent martial arts which are further enhanced by magecraft.
Simply calling it simple and brutish is quite unfair.
It is highly refined and elegant in how it all executes.

Sure abstract stuff like weird phantasms and fairytale magic is better for some, but it is also kinda silly looking in the Nasuverse.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23380873
Mystery literally doesn't matter for modern True Magic anyway.
The conceptual effects are far beyond almost all magecraft of the old era, yet they have far higher Mystery, which is simply like a baseline scaler of magic effectiveness.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23383228
aoko is a shitter carried by her crest

[Anonymous No.]

>>23383266
On paper, she should be.
Until you read her hidden stats, she is actually absurd.
She is simply ideally made for fighting and destruction.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23383353
Aoko isn't even that powerful of a mage, she has very average stats.
The only thing that made her special is the Fifth Magic.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23383377
Don't make me post the list.
Without the 5th she still beats basically any modern magus.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23383395
not him but I'm pretty sure nasu said she'd lose to most of the clock tower lecturer

[Anonymous No.]

>>23383395
would she lose to Medea?

[Anonymous No.]

>>23383395
Aoko would loose against Alice and she kinda already did but Souju saved her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23383411
No, all he said is that she is an inferior magus to them.
That means she is worse at higher end thaumaturgy.
Just to remind you, she easily defeats Sealing Designation Enforcers.
That being said, as a freelancer, she has also acted as an Enforcer numerous times.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23383459
That was a young Aoko, adult Aoko would likely win, especially since even teen Aoko managed to defeat Flat Snark.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23383439
In pure magecraft, yes, if she was allowed to fight in melee, it becomes quite close.
With the 5th, it is a stomping.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23383465
>adult Aoko would likely win
L M A O
>even teen Aoko managed to defeat Flat Snark.
she wouldn't have if it wasn't for soujuurou and alice could've finished her off right there

[Anonymous No.]

>>23383502
You're being rather naive.
Nasu said that MB Aoko without the 5th is capable of fighting Servants, along with Kouma.
Alice is very strong with all of her Ploys available, but there is no way she can use all of her capabilities at once, put simply MB Aoko probably speedblitizes her.

[Anonymous No.]

I could kick Aoko's ass.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23383552
nasu also said that a modern mage who can defeat a caster does not exist

[Anonymous No.]

Is there a reason why magus have to be so heartless? It makes me feel awful to see friends try and kill each other.
Is it just part of the magus culture to have that mindset?

[Anonymous No.]

>>23383655
>Q: It has been said that a certain Aozaki cannot even defeat a serious Caster, is this "certain Aozaki" Aoko Aozaki? Is this an assessment based on Aoko using True Magic?

>A: "A certain Aozaki" includes both Aoko and Touko. In a magecraft battle by modern standards, a "magus" who is capable of defeating a serious Caster does not exist.

>in a magecraft battle by modern standards

This means pure magecraft spam.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23383633
Don't try it.
>>23383682
It is the whole >muh sekrit society mindset
You defend the secrets to all extents.
Of course, not all magi are heartless.

[Anonymous No.]

I was kinda disspointed by how the aozaki patriach is barely explored in mahoyo
there's just the cat backstory, some talk between aoko and touko and he quickly appears at the end but that's it

[Anonymous No.]

>>23383687
Yes, and the reason why a modern magus cannot win with magecraft is down to Mystery.
Aoko for example might be able to keep up with Medea's spamming speed of HSDW, but the strength of each spell would go to Medea.
Touko's runes would also be outmatched by a Caster's runes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23383713
Welcome to Japanese young adult fiction, parents don't exist.
And if they do, they are always integral to the plot or really capable at stuff.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23383687
Power level in the Nasuverse is complete bullshit anyway, he broke the rules of his own world multiple time and even put new rules and shit to justify that a character won or loose agaisn't another.

[Anonymous No.]

How strong could you get with meta knowledge if you were dropped in the type moon verse
what would even be the best method?
summoning chiron or scathach and having them teach you?
train in the mountains like an autist?
Steal crests like touko did?

[Anonymous No.]

>>23383729
I mean, in Mahoyo we only know the patriarch, in Fate you sometimes get some family stuff.
Tsukihime is of course a joke in this regard.
I could start going into other franchises but I think you get the point.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23383733
Chiron shits on Scat in every regard possible, don't fucking mention that atrocity in this thread ever again.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23383698
Tried it, now she's my paizuri slave. Good times.

[Anonymous No.]

Shitposting is still shitposting, stop shitposting.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23383743
He's not a sexy chick, automatically loses in every way possible to Scat's fat tats.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23383743
>scathhach can teach you runes, give you gae bolg
>chiron can only teach you a gay ass martial art from gay ass greece

[Anonymous No.]

>>23383758
>>23383760
Go back to fucking /vg/.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23383767
Go back to humping a centaur's rump.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23383799
Okay then, back to /v/eddit.
Everyone is better than Scat, and everything is better than FGO.
Now go back in your cuckbox.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23383733
anyone?

[Anonymous No.]

You fucking shitters, there's too many retards in here for me to @.
Anyway, Nasu himself has said Aoko could take on Assassin and fucking win. Not only that, Aoko's magecraft is simple indeed. But what makes her special is that she has the efficiency of a fucking monster. She could easily draw out a match against any modern magus just based on the fact that she can out last them. She is literally the Jigglypuff of the Nasuverse.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23383823
Which is why powerlevel are bullshit because servants are Mystery older than Aoko's magic and should be able to ignore all magic younger than them like Beo did.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23383823
zabaniya gg

[Anonymous No.]

>>23383804
Scat scats all over you and your precious horseman. Get cucked by FGO, nerd.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23383823
Basically this.
>>23383819
Just become God or something.
>>23383830
Beo isn't immune to True Magic, mystery has never meant anything in practice.

[Anonymous No.]

*destroys aoko in your path*

[Anonymous No.]

Honestly, just read Aoko's wiki entry, I can verify that it is an accurate article.
Magic circuits quality, number and capacity mean very little compared to hidden attributes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23383878
It would be rather close, but I think Aoko without the 5th manages to win.
I've been studying powerlevels for over a decade, this shit is second nature to me.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23383830
Isn't Beo way higher ranked in term of mystery? Isn't he Arcueid lvl when servant are way below that ?

[Anonymous No.]

I like how nasu doesn't even explain how sojuuro beat up beowulf in the vn and you're supposed to accept it

[Anonymous No.]

>>23383960
The same reason how Saber gets beaten up.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23383960
Training autistically by punching bears in the woods leading into amazing power is such a common Japanese trope, he probably don't feel the need to justify it.

[Anonymous No.]

I want to creampie aozaki touko

[Anonymous No.]

>>23384104
eww

[Anonymous No.]

>>23383960
He kinda explained it through Touko's POV though

[Anonymous No.]

>>23383960
He does you just didn't read it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23384436
they just go back to his lines about beating up bears and that's it

[Anonymous No.]

>>23384602
Keep on proving you didn't read it.
Directly after he fucks him up they explain that Soujuurou didn't actually do anything. He ruptured his heart, sure (at the cost of 2 arms), but Lugh regenerated almost instantly. Soujuurou did not kill him or defeat him. What did defeat Lugh was him finding out that yes, he can fucking die and that he isn't perfect. There is an entire scene dedicated to Lugh crying himself into oblivion and wanting his mommy, so I would advise you to please stick to speaking of the current chapter 8 translation instead of trying to read the wiki for the rest and asking retarded questions.
The assassin camp thing is just an explanation for why Soujuurou is the way he is. No regular country bumpkin, even in the 1980s, would be so out of touch with modern society unless there was a very special circumstance, like you know, being trained at an assassin camp. No country bumpkin would be able to face a monster out of legends after seeing the 2 strongest beings in his life almost dead, because his mind would be super fucked, like you know, someone trained from an assassin camp.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23384638
tl;dr he punched bears, got it

[Anonymous No.]

>>23384638
>at the cost of 2 arms
and legs actually. You'd know that if you had read it
I know lugh could've gotten up and kept fighting because he was vitually healed but mentally scarred. What they do not explain is why a regular human even if train can punch lgih and hurt him in the first place when aoko's magically boosted kick did nothing

[Anonymous No.]

>>23384661
>and legs actually. You'd know that if you had read it
I don't remember this part, and I did read it. Do you want me to show my save file or something? I have a physical copy too.
>aoko's magically boosted kick
For one, its just a regular kick. Being magically boosted doesn't do anything against Lugh. So Aoko basically just kicked him normally.
Soujuurou "spun" his arm (don't remember exactly how but it reminds me of that one technique in Claymore, if anyone gets that reference anyway) so it would weaken that very specific part of his body. His first punch didn't do anything but make his heart vulnerable (again, at the cost of his arm). The second "punch" was the one that ruptured his heart, but again, it's moot. Soujuurou was never close to killing Lugh. You guys are equating losing both your arms to doing literally nothing against him. In a sense, Aoko's kick and Soujuurou's maneuver are the same. Aoko's kick is just weaker because its a regular kick, her legs weren't pushed to their limit. Soujuurou's was more precise because of his training, and aside from that sacrificed the arm entirely. Both are just as pointless, however. Soujuurou's mentally scarred him because Lugh is a bit like Fujino in KnK, as in this is their first time experiencing this, and they don't exactly enjoy it. Lugh's is a bit different then Fujino because his mindset was that he was perfect, and Soujuurou just showed him he can take damage, even if only a little.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23384737
>I don't remember this part, and I did read it.
if you did you would remember that his leg took the full weight of wolf lugh on and was in shambles

[Anonymous No.]

>>23384763
>>23384763
What the fuck else you want me to screenshot. I haven't finished Extra 1, 2, Naze Nani Ploy 5 and 6 (these haven't unlocked for me yet). Fuck you. Apparently reading in this board means remembering every detail and every line.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23384803
don't bother with this guy

[Anonymous No.]

>>23383733
>what would even be the best method
rape the maids

[Anonymous No.]

>>23384860
don't bother with this guy

[Anonymous No.]

>>23384737
I mean, to kill Lugh you need to obliterate him all at once with a non-magical attack, like a nuke or something.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23384661
It's just Nasu's humanity wank put into a scene. Guy with autism, perfect martial arts move(nasu fucking loves martial arts), did it at the perfect moment as beo attacked and so on. If Beo wasn't such a pussy it would have been pointless anyway, but he did achieve a "miracle"

The most retarded interpretation I've ever seen is that Soujuu's mountain is actually a holy mountain because it is cut off from modern society which means He was age of gods level mysticism.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23383733
Realistically, people dropped into Nasuverse would just keep on living as normal people, even with meta knowledge of the universe. You can't become a good mage without magic circuits, you need a fuck ton of magical energy in order to summon an heroic spirit, and you need to be a superhuman badass or a competent mage in order to be able to steal magic circuits. Also you're not born into an assassin family either, so no punching bears for you.
>>23384661
The logic is that it's a technique specifically designed to mess your insides. It doesn't matter wether your oponent is a huge werewolf with fur as strong as steel or a person, it will fuck them up regardless.
Aoko's kick was just trying to do damage the usual way but with a shit ton more strenght, that shit isn't going to work on Lugh.
It's dumb, but it's Nasuverse. You should be used to it by now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23385764
>It's dumb, but it's Nasuverse.
It's actually wuxia logic. You know, using qi and shockwave to bypass the walls/strong muscle/armor to get to the squishy insides. That shit is common as fuck in wuxia works.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23385764
Serious Soujuurou is a far harder physical striker than teen Aoko, on top of having deadly techniques.
That was the only time he showed off his true capabilities.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23386095
>bypass the walls/strong muscle/armor to get to the squishy insides
so, Nasu just loves his Bajiquan wank?

[Anonymous No.]

>>23386293
Like I said, it's an wuxia thing, not just Bajiquan, but a fundamental of wuxia in general.
Random trivia: in FGO, they even slip in Kintoki's profile to say he likes acclaimed wuxia novelist Jin Yong because Jin means Gold.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23383908
Beo killed one of the Twenty-seven Dead Apostle Ancestors without any real experience in fighting so... yes.

[Anonymous No.]

What does Fantasy Tree actually do?

Nasu could literally do away with the Lostbelt plotlines without writing them in if they're not relevant to anything.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23386575
Something something the Alien God is going to descend
Something something there's a cosmos inside the tree (which is called Hypothesis Cosmos btw), literally "Cosmos in the Lostbelt"
Something something the Priestess needs to 'harvest' all the Trees as implied by Koyanskaya
Something something there's actually a secret Fantasy Tree in Area 51, probably the Priestess needs to harvest other trees to make it bloom. Think of seven Fantasy Tree in LBs as seven servants and the Area 51's Tree as the Holy Grail in a normal Fuyuki HGW.
Also it bleached the Earth but LB4 already confirmed the true purpose of Fantasy Tree isn't to be used as an invasion weapon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23386608
>Think of seven Fantasy Tree in LBs as seven servants and the Area 51's Tree as the Holy Grail in a normal Fuyuki HGW.
The question now is how Olga will play into this since she's basically going to be play the role of Illya/Justeaze.

[Anonymous No.]

Can Aoko even fight this?

[Anonymous No.]

>>23387172
Yes, burn it with fire.

[Anonymous No.]

alice isn't good enough for soujuuro and those who ship the two deserve to get whipped on the ass

[Anonymous No.]

>>23388123
Shizuki is already in love with Alice and you can't do anything about it, sorry anon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23388160
aoko also has a part where she lusts after alice, does that mean she's also in love with her?

[Anonymous No.]

>Black Barrel
>Land of Steel hints
>now Ultimate One got mentioned as well
lmao Nasu

[Anonymous No.]

>/tmg/

[Anonymous No.]

>>23388123
True, Soujuuro is only for me and Aoko and Alice can fuck themselves.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23388247
soujuuro would be in his fourties or fifties now
he's too old for someone who's not even 20

[Anonymous No.]

>>23388276
>Implying I don't post from a military computer in the 80's

[Anonymous No.]

>>23387026
>ex quality circuits
>not good enough for marisbury
wtf was wrong with that man

[Anonymous No.]

>>23387026
Which books are the text snippets from?

[Anonymous No.]

>>23388202
kinda based

[Anonymous No.]

>>23388424
https://twitter.com/silver_moon_M/status/1215880311571017729

[Anonymous No.]

>>23388315
>E- quantity
If anything, Olga's circuits stats (amazing quality but meh quantity) imply she's another fuckery case like Manaka who has EX quality/E quantity circuits.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23388123
coward

[Anonymous No.]

>>23385764
I thought it was because when he trained in the mountains soujuuro accumulated mystery or something which is why he was able to stand up to beo who was also full of mystery

[Anonymous No.]

I don't know how they do it, but every time a new LB comes out they manage to top themselves for sheer fucking retarded stupidity

[Anonymous No.]

>>23388123
Counterargument: Aoko is too good for him.
What now bucko?

[Anonymous No.]

>>23388276
I want a mommy-aged Kohaku to pamper me

[Anonymous No.]

>they actually went ahead with the Black Barrel shit
>ORT also practically confirmed for gachashit

What is even the point of anything anymore, lads.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23389151
aoko is not good enough for anyone lmao
even shinji would pass on her

[Anonymous No.]

>>23389476
stop trying anon, you lost already.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23389435
to be fair notes was alays the shittiest prt of this franchise

[Anonymous No.]

Last night I had a dream where Kohaku was a rapper. She was showing me her mixtapes and said "yo check this future flow my nigga" and then she freestyled super hard

[Anonymous No.]

>>23389494
Good bait, I give 7/10.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23389435
Where does ORT fit on the powerlevel scale nowadays?

[Anonymous No.]

>>23390122
Probably high since he have been namedroped only know higher than Beast atleast, not sure if he is related to the alien god tho.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23390122
I remember Zelretch being wary of him, if that means anything.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23389435
You should have been mentally prepared for this years ago. The same thing will happen to the Tsukihime heroines eventually too. Well, just Arc and CIel mostly, but still.

Nasu is intent on having FGO touch everything. It's an all encompassing cancer.

[Anonymous No.]

fgo is nasu's big farewell
this is why he's including everything

[Anonymous No.]

>>23390345
What a pathetic way to end it all.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23386575
The Lostbelt is pretty much a Heavens Feel ritual of planetary proportions.
The 7 trees are the same as the 7 servants, fuel to ressurrect something, in this case, the Alien God.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23390161
I thought I was ready since the idea has been introduced for over a year but it still pissed me off.

[None !!BxJDSpAJCGo No.]

USE YOUR HAIR

[Anonymous No.]

>>23390863
Reminder this was an edit of a Rin/Shirou pasta.

[Anonymous No.]

Why is Ryougi so wanked over Nanaya by the fandom?
All of her opponents are either inexperienced or low-tier shitters, whereas Nanaya has some of the most bullshit feats from the old T-M works.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23391599
Ryougi is Ryougi for basically the whole 2-3 volumes while we see Nanaya barely at all. And that contributes to Ryougi just being a better character. Nanaya is barely written as is.
If you're talking powerlevel, then the difference there would be that the strongest opponent Ryougi faces is Araya, while Nanaya faces fucking Arcueid. We don't know how they would fair, but I imagine it would be quite similar just from their family backgrounds. Remember that Ryougi goes full badass personality switch once she holds the katana.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23391646
Should have clarified: by Nanaya”, I actually meant Tohno in “death to the inhuman” mode, so ye I meant powerlevels
Araya inside the hotel is strong, but he’s still quite unimpressive compared to shit like killing dozens of Chaos’ animals under a second, killing his phantasmal beasts and then outright outspeeding Chaos in his top form.

[Anonymous No.]

why was tiamat so much harder to take down than all the beasts that followed?
were the servnts in babylonia shitters?

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>23392692
lol

[Anonymous No.]

>>23392692
lol

[Anonymous No.]

>>23392692
yikes

[Anonymous No.]

>>23365099
From where the hell did Nasu get the idea that Alice means pearl?

[Anonymous No.]

>>23392816
Huh?

[Anonymous No.]

>>23392879
In the first chapter of Mahoyo Aoko remarks that the meaning of Alice's name (pearl) fits her like a glove.
I want to understand from where did Nasu get this meaning. Like, what etymology he thinks this word has?
Because afaik Alice means noble-like or something like that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23392923
Hint, maybe, just maybe, its the kanji its written in. Like 99% of the time when someone says anything about name meaning in Japanese media. 有珠.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23392945
I see. That's what I get for reading it in French, I guess.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23392973
crétin

[Anonymous No.]

>>23392692
Paradox Structure (ruby: Black Barrel), Lifespan Bullet (Dead Counter)
Also apparently the user can measure the target's life scale before shooting, like Demeter's is 4500 while Aphrodite has 3800.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23393573
Very cool and interesting now go post it in the right board where someone cares.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23393637
It belongs here too.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23393642
It doesn't. Not at all.
Hey newfag.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23393573
>Also apparently the user can measure the target's life scale before shooting
So now the Black Barrel/Barrel Replica can do this too? I don't think this has never been mentioned before.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23393706
*ever been

[Anonymous No.]

>>23393701
We have literally discussed parts of FGO in this general since its inception. If you don't recall, it's you, not me, who are the newfag - a common occurrence in those throwing around seniority as if it actually mattered.

I don't like FGO either, by the way.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23393732
>We have literally discussed parts of FGO in this general since its inception.
We have not. We have discussed it to hate on it. We don't care about this shitty fucking lore that makes no sense. I doubt any of the diehard users of this board know who Demeter or Aphoridite is. We know Black Barrel from Notes., not fucking FGO. You are absolutely new.

[Anonymous No.]

FGO is GOD.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23393826
>>/jp/thread/S21491671#p21538629
>>/jp/thread/S21315352#p21327459
>>/jp/thread/S19749383#p19807395

Here are some random conversations that I remembered off the top of my head. So, yes, we have discussed FGO at length in these threads for years. I could go on and find many more examples.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23393826
Not that anon, but don't we tend to discuss FGO story whenever they bring back old-TM elements? Like with nuSion or True Ancestor and now Black Barrel + Ultimate One. And don't forget that Fou/Primate Murder thing.
Also dunno if this got discussed before but Ploy Kickshaw also was mentioned in LB2.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23393893
All of these don't last more then 2 messages, or are more then. The first one everyone ignores the 2 shitters. The second one is one dude who dumped a bunch of shit and no one responded. The third one goes on for 2 messages before people start saying >FGO is shit and start talking about FSN and Tsukihime. Did you just post threads where you posted all these messages?

[Anonymous No.]

>>23393947
Yes, but not to the extent of discussing power-levels and fucking lore. Most of the time, if not all of the time, we shit on how bad they adapted it. Just like in this case.
>>23393573
Nobody cares about this shit. This is bait for discussion on FGO power-levels plain and simple. Notes. Black Barrel didn't have any of this shit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23393952
I knew you would backtrack into extremely specific criteria. I'm not even a newfag anymore but someone that's been posting the FGO content in this thread now apparently (I'm not). Besides which, you're wrong, as the oldest example I posted lasts for more messages than you imply, and without the sperging out that you're putting on display here.

This was never a discussion about positive/negative posts regarding FGO. I think most of us are in agreement here that it's shit, but it's still perfectly fine to post relevant information insofar as the lore here is concerned, not least of which because it makes for entertaining discussion when we criticize the retarded writing. You trying to shut down anything remotely related to FGO is just pure butthurt autism over the state of the franchise, which I can certainly understand, sure, but if you're that asshurt over it, just filter the discussion away.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23394034
>but it's still perfectly fine to post relevant information insofar as the lore here is concerned
That doesn't line up with history. Cherrypicked examples can't prove anything, especially when it's highly likely you yourself started these "discussions." Just last thread we had spouts of autism with people shit-posting lore and absolutely no one cared. People went against it.

[Anonymous No.]

Look, if it's just lore and stuff that keeps us aware, that is alright by me.
Keep the circlejerking to a minimum.

[Anonymous No.]

The so called "God of Another Planet" turned out to be Beast VII to nobody's surprise.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23394034
>I knew you would backtrack into extremely specific criteria.
If by specific criteria then you mean knowing that a discussion involves to or more people, then yes.
>>>/jp/thread/S21491671#p21538629
This is literally a post about someone defending the game. All 4 replies are negative towards it, BIG surprise. No one argued any points because it wasn't a discussion. Everyone moved on and ignored it.
>>>/jp/thread/S21315352#p21327459
Someone asked for lostbelt info, this guy delivered. Literally no one responded. This isn't a discussion.
>>>/jp/thread/S19749383#p19807395
Both of these guys are circlejerking each other. They start their threads by basically saying "I don't like FGO, BUT..." which is a dead giveaway that these are fucking fans.
> I think FGO part 1 was meant to make us love men's history and foundation and why we must defend it, and in part 2 we see the consequences of the very cruel system humanity made to arbitrary decided which people are acceptable and which were inconvenient and "pruned."
Nobody unironically says this and then turns around and says they hate the game. Please read what threads you're posting.

Anon, you're absolutely delusional.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23394268
Keep moving the goalposts. It's cute.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23394282
>So, yes, we have discussed FGO at length in these threads for years.
Yes Anon, I've disproved your examples on discussions and now I'm "moving the goalpost." You really like using buzzwords, huh.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23394289
And how did you do that exactly? By your own criteria a "discussion" involving "to or more people" then I already gave you valid examples. Here are some more since it makes you so asshurt:

>>/jp/thread/S21948644#p21974384
>>/jp/thread/S19015515#p19035983
>>/jp/thread/S18820945#p18846222

(Again, whether or not it's positive or negative is literally irrelevant and was never the point of the argument.)

[Anonymous No.]

Get a room you two.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23394312
>By your own criteria a "discussion" involving "to or more people" then I already gave you valid examples.
Yet they don't. Your first 2 examples aren't comprised of 2 people. If someone saying "FGO is shit" and then not responding anymore being part of a discussion, then discourse to you is just shitflinging. Your third example is comprised of 2 people, but you're not discussing anything if all you're doing is agreeing with the other person. That is called a "circlejerk." As stated.
>>>/jp/thread/S21948644#p21974384
I was part of this discussion. Ironically however, this discussion is entirely based around hating FGO on a superficial level (setting, Gudao, etc., as mentioned multiple times through the thread) instead of shit like >>23393573 which isn't hating on it and is trying to discuss the lore. /fgog/ is your place for that.
>>>/jp/thread/S19015515#p19035983
Yep, you got me.
>May 2018
Nevermind. People sometimes forget that /tmg/ wasn't always a TM general -FGO, but instead a TM general. Of course, a newfag wouldn't exactly know that, would they?
>>>/jp/thread/S18820945#p18846222
>April 2018
Well, this confirms it. You literally linked a thread about a guy saying "Camelot and Babylonia were written when they got their shit together." and didn't realize how things were different in 2018.
>Again, whether or not it's positive or negative is literally irrelevant and was never the point of the argument.
Shitflinging at people praising the game is not a discussion. Positivity and negativity were never factors. You cannot say that someone is having a discussion when all responses to points are "FGO is shit."

[Anonymous No.]

Accept FGO into your heart.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23394420
I see. So we've gone from
>We have not (discussed parts of FGO in this general since its inception)
to
>Oh, 2018 threads don't count since at some undetermined point in time we uninformally and unanimously banned FGO posts.
>You cannot say that someone is having a discussion when all responses to points are "FGO is shit."
A discussion can literally mean "a conversation." Your autistic, extremely specific criteria for what constitutes as a discussion just comes across as silly. Besides which, while many of those conversations were in agreement that FGO is shit, many of them had positive things to say about the game still. I've seen this threads go over interesting bits of lore from FGO dozens of times.

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>>23394449
Proven newfag with that 2018 head-canon. Go back to /fgog/.

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>>23394477
These threads started in 2018. The argument was that FGO has been discussed in part since the generals inception, and I dug up 2018 posts to prove that was the case. I'm sorry, but you were wrong.

Also, I don't like FGO, so why would I go there?

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>>23394483
>interesting bits of lore from FGO
>>23394483
>I don't like FGO

Pick one, these are not mutually exclusive.

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>>23394495
Maybe in your binary world. You're just as bad as fanboys.

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>>23394495
>these are not mutually exclusive.
Anon...

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>>23394496
>>23394501
None of the lore is interesting, if you somehow like the lore, then I find it hard to be convinced that you actually hate FGO, unless you are a complete lore autismo who cannot get enough of old man Nasu spouting nonsense.

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>>23394233
And to nobody's surprise, it's relevant to Olga-Marie and the Animusphere.

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>>23394441
I already did.

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>>23394687
Based.

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FGO using the lore only make me sad. It only reminds me of how we still don't have Mahoyo 2 & 3 and Tsukihime Remake. Meanwhile their lore is used on a subpar story.
Especially with the EVERYTHING IS A GRAIL WAR shit. Why did they even have to bring grails in the first place ? The Grail War is a ritual that's extremely specific, you can't just say "Goethia just spread grails around lol", how the fuck did he gather all that magic energy in the first place since that took place before the incineration of Humanity ? If you have all that magic energy, why use grails as a vessel and Servants as actors to create pseudo grail wars (which can fuck up his plan, like in Camelot and Babylonia were automatically summoned servants actively worked to stop it (and LArtoria nearly succeeded)) ? Wouldn't he be better served using literally any other vessel and actor, like his Demon Gods ?

Admitedly my memories are foggy, but the only Singularity that has a proper reason to have a grail was Fuyuki.

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>>23394674
But then what's up with Siriuslight/Marisbilly/Alien God now? In the end, after using his own Siriuslight to stop U-Olga, Kirsch tells Caenis that this is the true purpose (to save the world at a critical situation) of the Siriuslight that Marisbilly only told him and kept it a secret with the rest of A-Team.

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>>23394233
really?
I can't believe such drivel is genuinely real.

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>>23371210
who was she again?
>>23387172
yeah she will just throw it to the floor

[Anonymous No.]

> See cosplay
Astolfo
> Okay
Rider
> Uhh
Fate/Grand Order
> BWEH

[Anonymous No.]

Remember this?

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>>23397865
Where's that from?

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>>23397947
Don't remember where it was from but I remember people going crazy over the 焚書 statement and that they started calling nasu pizza after this

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>>23394878
The grails are thrown into the past to cause singularities and wreck havoc, there's no intent to making them grail wars.

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>>23394878
>>23398676
My memory is also foggy, but IIRC, the Demon God Pillars can't fully manifest without a grail to power them.

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>>23396511
>>23371210 (You)
who was she again?

TM best girl

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>>23396511
>who was she again?

TM bestgirl

[Anonymous No.]

>>23394878
DDD3 never

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>>23398799
Based and redpilled

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>>23398799
>>23399418
not even best girl in her vn

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>>23395277
Go back to /fgog/. This lore is nonsense.

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question: if Shiki draws over a death line with a sharpie so that someone else can see it, will they be able to kill that thing just as easily as Shiki can?

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>>23399569
t.Aoko

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why was Shirou called a hypocrite in UBW?
it sounded less like he contradicted his ideals, and more than he just would not be able to accomplish as much as he truly wanted.

[Anonymous No.]

reminder that alaice was supposed to die and mahoyo 2 and we'll never see her again in a type moon work

[Anonymous No.]

I havent even seen it..but Weak Sabre in the Zero series got battered by Lance ..i mean injured...some men just dont like women to outshine them...especially with a sword...
Last Encore had more supine and sub females than that wack wheel of fortune competition

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>>23400006
>implying Mahoyo 2 will be released in this decade
Was is a good word anon. She was supposed to die, because Mahoyo 2 isn't going to happen. She was, but she won't

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>>23400176
alice still died
we'll just never know about it
and soujuurou inherited the mansion

[Anonymous No.]

Len

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>>23391995
99.9% of the work vs Goetia is done by Solomon who had been planning on doing that exact thing for 2000 years. You can't even think about touching Kiara until Melt goes back in time and BB uses her cheat powers to render Kiara sort of beatable and even then it's extremely close. I don't think Kiara had even reached the apex of her power yet either and had to be stopped then and there before it was too late.

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Does anyone know why Tiamat doesn't become a full blown goddess until she falls into the underworld? Roman says:
>Reversion to the Age of Gods has reached the Jurassic Age! It's no longer just a Servant possessing Divinity, this is an actual deity!
and I can't imagine it's just a coincidence it happens now.

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>>23400632
Because full gods weren't allowed by Gaia after Gilgamesh refused Ishtar. Gods fully degraded into divine spirits and weren't allowed to wander the earth anymore.

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>>23400298
If a tree falls in a sequel that never got written, does it make a sound?

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>>23376542
>What does this mean?
Basically one of the alleged prerequisites for being Grand Saber is weilding Excalibur.That boils down to:
>Saber from Fate/Stay Night
>Arthur from Fate/Prototype
>A random dude who used proto-Excalibur to fend off a giant alien from the Earth 14,000 years ago in Extella
What makes this ice age caveman even more likely for it is the fact that he was the only one who managed to use Excalibur to fight off aliens, which was it's original purpose in the first place and something neither Arhur nor Artoria have done yet. So yeah, get ready for Grand Saber Grug. Bravo Nasu.

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>>23400770
what about Merlin?
or the lake lady?

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>>23400373
Protect Len

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>>23400796
Same as the others. Neither of the Merlins killed any ayylmaos and I don't think the Lady of the Lake actually used the sword itself.

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Here's your Olympians Gods, u rike?

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>>23400849
Fate was a mistake. Nasu should've sticked to writting new stories, just reusing certain themes and concepts.
Sequels are cancer.

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>>23400849
No, fuck off.

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>>23400849
I love them all.

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>>23400770
So you really don't think they are going to cashgrab Artoria? Weakest 5 star in the game, no way they won't use this opportunity to boost her popularity in-game.

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>>23400913
grug is actually grugerina the original saberface Altria 10000BC version
Turns out that the whole "king arthur will ressurect in our time of need" already happened before and the original king arthur was a cavewoman who then reincarnated as seibah to save camelot

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>>23395277
>>23400552
>>23400632
>>23400659
>>23400849
>>>/vg/287306135

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>>23398799
>>23399418
>>23399816
You can have her, I personally would disregard her after this.

[Anonymous No.]

which drama cds are worth a listen?

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>>23400963
I don't know if this is some based redpill post or something, but this was Touko basically injecting Alice with a anti-magic use drug. Ignoring best girl for being sexually assaulted is such a mid movement.

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>>23400913
I don't think she'll ever be relevant in FGO. Even the latest chapter implied that Lancer Artoria was involved instead of her vanilla Saber version. It's probably thanks to Takeuchi holding a gun to Nasu's head to never let his waifu be defiled by that kusoge, her clones and alternate forms are game though.

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>>23400968
Most of them aren't translated, so most haven't experienced them. Garden of Avalon is IMO the best.

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>>23400849
I only like the design of Ares, the rest are shit.

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>>23400985
If she isn't able to stop being molested, she is no best girl of mine.
Aoko is impossible to surpass, accept that you're second place.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23400849
>it's just Eva wank

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>>23400985
too late she's used goods

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>>23400770
"grand" servants are a complete mistake.

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>>23401085
She was literally incapicitated against Touko in 12. Difference is Touko thinks Alice is cute while Aoko is her fucking sister lmao.

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>>23401198
>d-doesn't count

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>>23401085
>Got btfo by a stupid dog

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>>23401405
and alice got BTFO by a stupid aoko

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>>23401461
>>23401405
To be fair they both did.

[Anonymous No.]

at what point did alice begin to like soujuurou

[Anonymous No.]

>>23401198
>>23401405
No argument worth a damn, good, because there isn't one.

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>>23401198
Being desirable to Touko is a big negative.

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>>23401703
being desirable to knk touko would be safe and the dream

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>>23401716
Being in the setting of KnK would be a mistake, only death awaits.
And even then, you only need to make one mistake and Touko will turn you into a meat sock.
It's a no from me.

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>>23401716
Except if you happen to find her without her glasses.

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>>23401738
the knk setting is pretty comfy
just don't go out at night

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>>23401738
I mean, it might be dangerous to bone her, but i'd like to work for her.

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>>23399970
偽善者 is listed as hypocrite in just about every dictionary you can find, but if you want to specific the actual meaning is a bit different than what one would first think of given the word hypocrite.. 偽 means fake/pretend while 善 means virtuous and good, while 者 just means somebody. What they're actually saying is that he isn't doing "good" things because it's the correct thing to do, but because he as a mental obsession with being a hero doing so it makes him feel less awful.
>Hypocrisy is the contrivance of a false appearance of virtue or goodness, while concealing real character traits or inclinations, especially with respect to religious and moral beliefs
the first half is what is said to apply to him, the second is what people usually think of first.

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>>23400824
With my life

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>>23400849
they're not too bad desu

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>>23400849
I like Demeter's hadaka apron armor.

[Anonymous No.]

Here's your Beast VII bros

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>>23403376
please tell me this isn't real?
I expected nothing good, and I'm still left with a horrendous pit in my gut.
I don't even like fgo and I'm still mad.

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>It was not sadness, shock, or anger that flooded my chest. It's just a stupid farewell.
>The existence of blindness so far. I can only witness the stupid people in the future from that point of view.
>What creates beautiful things? What's a natural-born king? What's a designated genius? Don't make me laugh, there is no value in even laughing. I never thought about what is truly beautiful to me.
>The value of the teenager has not changed. He was foolish to lose his life for this insignificant reason.
>I am a superior person, and he is a low-level human being.
>The answer can be drawn from the result in the future.
>But how can I do it. In order to fill up your stomach for some people you don't know, you will fight for your life.
>In order to see a beautiful existence, you do not seek return and risk your life.
>Kirschtaria: Ah-of course
>Since he's able to do it, he had no reason not to act.
>Since he saw this, he had no reason not to respond.
>There is no time for expression, sympathy, or regret. Because I already have what I have to do.
>This is the additional reason. I am not born a belief.
>This is a purpose that won't be resulted in Kirschtalia Wodime's life. But I swear to live for it. As someone who has been given many things by him, I will show the value of humanity until the end of my life.

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>>23403741
the full design is worse but apparently it's planing on leaving this vessel and hijacking ORT so yeah types are probably about to get shat on as well

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>>23403773
wh
is she wearing a reverse bunnysuit?

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>>23403787
I guess cause Type-Moon are pandering sellouts and reverse bunnysuit is the latest meme outfit

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>>23403773
the heel is stupid as well

[Anonymous No.]

I can't believe they made black barrel and shooting down gods feel lame. The writing is actually so bad, and I actually mean the writing. Everything is bloated to shit for no reason.

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>>23403944
it's battle-shounen tier writing

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>>23403944
>The writing is actually so bad, and I actually mean the writing
How the hell are you just noticing the writing has been terrible from day 1

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>>23403897
So this design is basically a clown version of Melt

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>>23403944
the Black Barrel in LB5 is actually even stronger than the original one in Notes since this one was created with Greeks technology as well
literally one shot one kill weapon lol

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>>23403968
the actual prose started off horrible and eventually got to be painfully mediocre. Now every sentence has them trying to be epic as fuck for everything and I don't even know how I am supposed to rate it when I'm pretty much just reading the writer jerk himself off

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>>23404113
>the actual prose started off horrible and eventually got to be painfully mediocre
oh you just meant the prose I was talking about the content of the writing

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>>23403771
but why did Wodime's dad want to kill his son though? shouldn't he be proud of his genius son?

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>>23404139
Cause Nasu's a hack and needed to complete Wodime's gary stuness with the typical tragic backstory. It really makes no sense

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>>23404139
>At the time, I was enrolled in the Astronomy department at the Clock Tower, the headquarters of the Mage's Association, in London. I was the heir of the Wodime family which spanned a lineage of 13 generations. A child who was given the divine protection of the celestial bodies. "The mage possessing the greatest Magic Circuit in the history of the Wodime family. A genius appointed to succeed the family in a few years' time by the 11th generation head who remains in charge of the family inheritance." That was how I was referred to by everyone.
They ignored his father and instead chose Kirsch as the next head of the family.
Basically the meeting with that kid is what makes Kirsch stop thinking of himself as a superior talented human and decide to devote the rest of his life for humanity.

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>>23404224
That kid is such bullshit, he's scared of humans yet dies from being punched too hard for stealing bread and not feeding himself because he'd rather feed Kirsch. Seriously that last part Kirsch is such an awful gary stu. Also the hobo has an ancient witch amulet hiding him from the world

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>>23404260
Is he really a gary stu if he lost to (You) and then died of his own mistakes?

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>>23404274
>Is he really a gary stu if he lost to (You)
First of losing to another gary stu doesn't count especially if it's the protagonist.
Second of all he died saving (your) ass so no.
Third it is possible to have a loss and still be a gary stu even without it being the protag that defeats said character

[Anonymous No.]

FGO was a mistake.

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>>23404260
>he's scared of humans
He is? As far as i remember he's a poor orphan kid that didn't even know how to speak properly but he somehow had that pendant. The kid noticed and saw Kirsch everyday when he crossed the bridge due to his brilliant appearance of a rich person and saved him after being unconscious. He then gave Kirsch the pendant so those assassins couldn't find him and let him recover in his hideout. Kirsch found the whole place and the stale bread the kid gave him disgusting, also thought of the kid as a lowly, inferior human. Some days later, the kid went back home with fresh, new breads for Kirsch but Kirsch realized that he's beaten because of doing so (which could've never happened if the kid used the pendant instead of let Kirsch use it). Before being able to say anything, the kid died right in front of Kirsch while feeling happy that he's got to see a beautiful thing (which is the reason the kid noticed him on the bridge and also what Kirsch was aiming to create). The greentext this anon posted >>23403771 is Kirsch's POV after the kid died.

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>>23404386
yes he's scared of literally everyone but Kirsch is so pretty he literally dies for him. Also he's never eaten anything but bread for his whole life because apparently in Nasuverse if nobody tells you what's food and what's not you never try anything different.

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>>23404260
Basically the fact that a lowly, homeless kid who has nothing could accomplish the deed he couldn’t even imagine being able to do so, despite being born as a superior human: Risking your own life to safe someone you don’t know. This destroyed all illusions Kirsch used to have that he's a natural born genius and is destined to do beautiful/amazing things

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>>23404535
> the deed he couldn’t
What save a life I'm pretty sure Krisch is capable of that especially if it would just involve feeding them. The kid didn't do anything Krisch couldn't

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>>23404578
Anon that's 15 years old Kirsch when he still thought of him as superior feelings and didn't give a fuck about those low-level humans.
>For the past half year, my daily commute has me crossing the large bridge that leads to the Spiritual Evocation faculty building. On the way, I noticed someone who looked like a beggar on the opposite sidewalk, but I thought nothing of it. Back then I didn't even register them in my mind. It wasn't out of aversion or disgust. I simply treated them as "nonexistent." I am a prodigy born to usher in a new era. I can't afford to involve myself with those kind of people. I was blessed with privilege, and I had talent greater than most people. That was why I had a mission.
>― To create something beautiful.
>― To create something splendid.
>That belief and passion led me to become a diligent student, and it spurred me to devote myself to my studies day and night. It was to the point where I was even allowed to set foot into the other faculty colleges that could be considered as enemies.
>I was completely oblivious to my arrogance, and to my immaturity.

>just involve feeding them
The kid was beaten to death due to finding better bread for Kirsch and could've avoided that if he didn't give Kirsch the pendant (which Kirsch really needed because he could be found by his father if not for the pendant to hide his presence)

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>>23404578
Are you really willing to risk your life just to save someone you barely know

[Anonymous No.]

>>23404645
>>23404666
I said couldn't not wouldn't

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>>23404686
I mean you said couldn't

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>>23404578
>the deed he couldn’t even imagine being able to do so
why chop the line in the first place? it's not "the deed he couldn't be able to do so" but "the deed he couldn't even IMAGINE being able to do so". True, Kirsch's definitely capable but would he really sacrifice himself to save random people while having that "geeh i'm a natural born genius" mindset?

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>>23404645
we can all read, we're telling you it's fucking stupid.

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>>23404750
> even IMAGINE being able to do so
Cause it's more he can't imagine doing so than he can't imagine being Able to. It's stupid

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>>23401521
Probably chapter 7? I wouldn't say liked but it was very clear she was very curious about him which I assume means she wants to like him

[Anonymous No.]

Are there any Alice doujins.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23403773
so ORT confirmed stronger than AG?

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>>23405012
alien god needs a vessel. current one is too shit so she wants ORT.

not that it even matters when Nasu just drops Chaos into the LB5 final who is easily the most powerful entity written about in the nasuverse so far.

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>>23405329
>that vague thing barely mentioned in my old greek books that I usually just ignored is the most powerful entity in the nasuverse
neat

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>>23405386
that he's written about so far. Will no doubt be powercreeped 3 times within the next 12 months. It's a giant dyson sphere that send out the entire greek pantheon, can open holes across spacetime, and holmes said it wouldn't even be able to be hurt by Goetia's ring of light which is all of human history turned into energy and several thousand excalibur blasts. Oh and Zeus totally has anti-galaxy and anti-concept level attacks.

I hate what this franchise has become so much.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23405329
>>23405420
I feel like I've heard this writing somewhere before...

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>>23405512
Are you suggesting Nasu just took something from a videogame? never.

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>>23405512
He already stole the plot of Tsukihime from Vampire: The Masquerade and some obsure 90s VN and the plot of F/SN from fucking Kamen Rider, might as well do the same thing for FGO with Xenogears.

[Anonymous No.]

Case Files mats glossary is now fully translated on tmdict, by the translator that is working on the novel TL

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>>23405420
So alien gods are Scub Corals ?

[Anonymous No.]

>>23404848
Yes there are

[Anonymous No.]

>>23399735
No.