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http://home.kyodo.co.jp/modules/fstStory/index.php?storyid=430530

http://www.necn.com/Boston/World/2009/03/29/Japanese-military-sets-up/1238324909.html

Are they really taking North Korea that serious?

>> No.2330144

Who cares?

>> No.2330150

>>2330144
/jp/ - Japan

Tokyo = Japan

>> No.2330151

Welcome back, Japanese military regime.

>> No.2330153

>>2330150
So?

Who cares?

gb2/old /n//

>> No.2330155

>>2330150
No, it's /jp/ - Japan/General.
General means Touhou and VN.

>> No.2330159

>>2330144
>>2330153
>>2330155

Age. ;]

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JSDF fuck yeah

>> No.2330163

>>2330159
;]

>> No.2330165

>>2330163
;]]

>> No.2330168

>>2330139
protip: they won't get to use it, and the PM knows this. it's just for cheap political props.

>> No.2330169

>>2330165
;]]]

>> No.2330172

>>2330169
;]]]]

>> No.2330173

>>2330168
japan is in pretty bad shape right now. they need something to distract the plebes.

>> No.2330174

>>2330172
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>> No.2330181

/jp/, how would you react if a 15 megatons nuclear bomb struck Tokyo?

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>>2330181

>> No.2330189

>>2330174
;]]]]]]

>> No.2330190

>>2330160
that's a fire engine, judging by the kanji on the front.

>> No.2330191

>>2330181
point and laugh. then RAEG once it becomes apparent they're going to cancel the next anime season.

>> No.2330193

patriot missiles = shit

>> No.2330196

>>2330189
;]]]]]]]

>> No.2330202

Can't blame them for being cautious, they have been struck with nukes before. Apparantly the US and South Korea are supporting the Japanese with this idea.

>> No.2330203

>>2330196
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>>2330190

>> No.2330211

>>2330203
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>North Korea says it will send a communications satellite into orbit between April 4 and 8 as part of a peaceful bid to develop its space programme.
>But some governments suspect the North will use the launch to test technology for a long-range missile capable of striking Alaska.

Boo-fucking-hoo, a minuscule third world country which can barely feed its own people now represents a huge threat to our glorious country's safety.
I have already seen this pitiful excuse being used before. How sad people can still fall hook, line and sinker to it.

>> No.2330219 [DELETED] 

/k/ is the new /n/, if you're interested. Otherwise, stop with trying to make a new /b/-like trend.

>> No.2330230

>>2330216
>minuscule third world country which can barely feed its own people

And just why do you think that is? Because they pour every dime they make into their military, which is the fourth-biggest on the planet.

>> No.2330239

here's what's gonna happen: the launch is either successful and gets a shitty satellite up, or it fails and falls harmlessly into the sea. condemnations all around, and then everybody goes back to trying to avoid a recession. in a month's time nobody will even remember it happened.

>> No.2330240

>>2330216
>North Korea is currently aiming 200 Rodong-1 missiles at Japan. Rodong-1 can strike 90% of the Japanese mainland, including Tokyo. North Korea did not join any chemical weapon restriction treaty, so possible warheads could be filled with chemical, biological, or nuclear material.

>> No.2330253

>>2330202
that's because the usa and south korea see it as an act of war too. lol

>> No.2330254

>>2330230

You have to be fucking deluded if you think that their warheads could hope of striking that far, though. North Korea owes all of the aid in military developement to its sole foreign partner, Iran that is, which is notorious for its crummy nuclear and ballistic programs.
All this insistent clamor for curbing Kim Jong Il's regime is just another American-Japanese patriotic dick waggling. It's funny how they still fancy themselves the world's police after their recent failures.

>> No.2330260

>>2330239
And what if it falls onto Japan?

http://www.yomiuri.co.jp/dy/national/20090328TDY01301.htm

>> No.2330262 [DELETED] 

>>2330240
>>North Korea is currently aiming 200 Rodong-1 missiles at Japan.
>currently aiming 200 Rodong-1 missiles
>200 Rodong-1 missiles
>Rodong-1
>dong
lol dongs

>> No.2330266

>>2330260
it won't because the North Koreans are not fucking stupid. they're just in it to get economic aid.

>> No.2330267

>>2330240
>North Korea is currently aiming 200 Rodong-1 missiles at Japan.
>currently aiming 200 Rodong-1 missiles
>200 Rodong-1 missiles
>Rodong-1
>dong
>200 dongs
lol dongs

>> No.2330281

>>2330254
Then explain why North Korea has Nukes, and Iran doesn't.

Also the U.S. Secretary of Defense just said the U.S. won't shoot down the missile, so it's all up to Japan if they want to shoot it down.

>> No.2330349

>>2330216

This. Fucking Americunts and their fanboys need to stop labelling whoever doesn't agree with them as 'axis of evil', while their so lovable jews are nuking Palestians every fucking days.

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>/jp/, how would you react if a 15 megatons nuclear bomb struck Tokyo?

>> No.2330393

War fuels the military-industrial complex. Good way to get us out of a recession.

See you at the front, guys.

>> No.2330395

>>2330349
Delicious Pallywood lies, I must eat them up.

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2330417

Japan will shoot down the missile solely because North Korea will see it as an act of war. They can't really harm Japan in any significant way so the North will just turn Seoul into hellfire whilst zerg rushing through the DMZ.

Japan's ethnic cleansing war machine is finally coming back online.

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>>2330417

>> No.2330432

>>2330417
bad time to come online to be honest. too many dumb fuck nationalists youth in china right now.

>> No.2330463

>>2330432
Right... and I can't stand the Amerikkan's brand of selective moral judgments.

I weep for your generation of retards.

>> No.2330474

>>2330463
What the fuck are you talking about.

>> No.2330480

>>2330281
>why North Korea has Nukes, and Iran doesn't

Just like how those yankees told everybody that Saddam has WMD ?

Admit it boys, you wouldn't fucking make up those lies if it weren't for the oil for TEH GLORIOUS USA.

>> No.2330490

>>2330474
The fucking thing I'm talking about, listen here dear boy...
Is the fact that Japan raped and pillaged and Amerikkans like you would rather make fun of Chinese lol youths.

>> No.2330507

>>2330480
What the fuck are you talking about, North Korea them self's claimed to have the nukes, and conducted a Nuclear Test, with Russia, and China confirming it.

>> No.2330516

Its exactly like in /v/, you guys really hate the Japan as much as /v/ hates video games.

Its amusing.

>> No.2330525

>>2330507
Which obviously means it's all lies because the Stars 'n' Stripes controls the planet. I love how these adolescent wannabe-socialist politrolls work.

THEY DON'T.

>> No.2330531

>>2330507

Saddam himself claimed that he had WMDs, turned out that was a desperate lie. Israel also confirmed this lie, which also makes them a liar.

It's like I'm really watching a new Gulf War drama !

>> No.2330532

Just to toss it out there, a lot of this is Japan showing that it doesn't need the US to take care of it's ass.

A lot of Japanese protest the country's connection to the US, and there's plenty of rage at America.
Get out of America, and you see how much the rest of the world doesn't care. America is big on itself. That's it. It's self important.

Most countries are dealing with their own problems. America's a global disease.
Hell, I can walk down the street, seeing anti-america posters every 2-3 meters. And this is Tokyo.

The world's done taking america's shit.

>> No.2330538

>>2330516
No one on 4chan really *loves* Japoon.

>> No.2330548

>>2330525

So America mind controlled the leaders of North Korea to force them into holding a conference where they announce that they had detonated a nuclear weapon. They, also, simultaneously mind controlled OTHER nations leaders to confirm this. Then, they messed with Richter scales to show that there was a 4.2 magnitude explosion in North Korea when they said that the explosion happened.

I believe it.

>> No.2330553

>>2330538
You dont have to really hate it or love it. Why is that you people need to point out your likes and dislikes that no one even cares about?

You might like Japan, fine, like it... just shut up about it.

You might dislike Japan, fine, dislike it... just shut up about it.

>> No.2330558

>>2330490

fucking 65 years ago. people like you who always bring up the past into arguments are so fucking retarded and backwards.

>> No.2330566

I don't love Japan but I'd be sad to see it attacked by a pansy rogue state

The girls there are cute :3

>> No.2330568

>>2330548

I thought that might be sarcasm, but then I realise the poor fucktard really means it.

>> No.2330579

>>2330568

It was sarcasm.

>> No.2330582

>>2330548
They did carry out a test, but it was a fizzle, or failure.

It's not like thye have enough to ensure MAD either

>> No.2330590

>>2330582

Yeah, it was a failure in the sense that it wasn't as big as they hoped. But, it's still a test and still a nuclear bomb.

>> No.2330636

People here obv have no knowledge of geopolitical history. The US blames itself for allowing WW2 to happen and it should. This is because the US did nothing but turn a blind eye and ignored all the tension and conflict that was happening in Europe until it was too late and not being involved in the League of Nations which was the predecessor of the UN. They were a major power at the time but did nothing when they could have added huge pressure on to Germany not to be a dick.

This is why they have decided to become more active in foreign affairs. Sure it means a shitload of people will hate them but the fact that there have been no major wars only proxy ones have proved that they have been at least slightly successful.

>> No.2330657

>>2330636

Hahaha oh wow. It always amuses me when patriotic retards who grew up reading DC comic always argue that they're the superheroes protecting our countries from megalomaniacs.

>> No.2330689

>>2330657

No u. Its about taking responsibility. Or > With great power comes great responsibility.

>> No.2330711

>>2330689
>/jp/
>responsibility

Seriously, dude. Just get the fuck out.

>> No.2330713

>>2330689

How do I shoot webs ?

>> No.2330727

>>2330689

Well, seems like the proof of what I just said about these poor youths growing up with DC's retarded brainwashers.

>> No.2330740

>>2330711
we're talking about a country here, not /jp/'s users

>>2330713
way to get the meme wrong, newfag

>> No.2330741

>>2330636
>This is because the US did nothing but turn a blind eye and ignored all the tension and conflict that was happening in Europe until it was too late and not being involved in the League of Nations which was the predecessor of the UN. They were a major power at the time but did nothing when they could have added huge pressure on to Germany not to be a dick.

The US were still suffering from The Great Depression, they used the war as opportunity and sold a shitload of arms/supplies to the allies and crawled their way out of said depression. They were the stereotypical Jews of WWII. It's a shame Japan didn't pull a Nazi Germany on their arses.

>> No.2330744

>>2330713

I don't know, haha.

>> No.2330749

>>2330727

I never grew up with DC comics. And in case you havent noticed I added that Spiderman crap to go along with your little attack. Oh and I think Spiderman is marvel or w/e.

>> No.2330769

>>2330749
>Oh and I think Spiderman is marvel or w/e.

You are just proving his point step by step.

>> No.2330771

Japan should just scrap Article 9, re-arm, institute a draft, then tell the US forces there to GTFO.

>> No.2330774

>>2330749

>Internet typing battles. It's the mission of my life to protect the name of Amerikka in the name of justice !

>> No.2330775

>>2330741

Everyone else was in the Great Depression you know. And the US were in a semi-isolationism/non-interventionism policy back then. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_non-interventionism

>> No.2330828

>>2330774

>Oh look at me Im the impartial, unbias faggot who thinks Im above these people who are having a debatable conversion. Watch as I try to be funny and totally quote and change their words around to make an internet typing battle and feed my inner keyboard warrior within.

>> No.2330859

>>2330636
>People here obv have no knowledge of geopolitical history. The US blames itself for allowing WW2 to happen and it should. This is because the US did nothing but turn a blind eye and ignored all the tension and conflict that was happening in Europe

Jesus christ stop posting. The USA only became the world's police force when the USSR collapsed. The second world war was the fault of the European powers more than anything else.

>> No.2330867

>>2330859
Wrong. It was because America demanded such harsh terms in the Treaty of Versailles.

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>>2330867
The Treaty of Versailles was primarily the fault of France and England. No one really thought of the US as a great power back then.

Notice how there is no mention of your country on the front page.

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>>2330828

This thread is now confirmed to be a sacred battlefield of holy protector of USA.

If you ever come to your senses kiddo, I advise you to go to <-------/co/. That way you wouldn't ever feel ronery.

>> No.2330903

>>2330889

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fourteen_Points#Failure_of_the_U.S._to_ratify_the_Treaty_of_Versailles

>> No.2330907

>>2330828

LOLITROLLU.jpg

>> No.2330913

>>2330903
And your point is?

>> No.2330919

>>2330889
That's because we're modest and pull the strings from the behind the curtain.

>> No.2330920

>>2330903
In fact, don't bother replying if you're just going to link me to barely relevant shit on Wikipedia.

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>>2330919
>Americans
>modest

>> No.2330932

>>2330769

Typical underages,I have to agree.

You know, the people who can not let go of their keyboards no matter how retarded they are.

It's fun anyway, so long I haven't been unable to find a decent trolling target.

>> No.2330934

>>2330932
Get out of /jp/.

>> No.2330942

>>2330867
France was the one demanding the most.

>France's aims: France had lost some 1.5 million military personnel and an estimated 400,000 civilians to the war, and much of the western front had been fought on French soil. To appease the French public, Prime Minister Georges Clemenceau wanted to impose policies deliberately meant to cripple Germany militarily, politically, and economically so as never to be able to invade France again. Georges Clemenceau also particularly wished to regain the rich and industrial land of Alsace-Lorraine, which had been stripped from France by Germany in the 1871 War. Clemenceau also wanted the Rhineland to be split up from Germany as it was a key area of industry.

>> No.2330945

>>2330942
>British aims: Prime Minister David Lloyd George supported reparations but to a lesser extent than the French. Lloyd George was aware that if the demands made by France were carried out, France could become the most powerful force on the continent, and a delicate balance could be unsettled. Lloyd George was also worried by Woodrow Wilson's proposal for "self-determination" and, like the French, wanted to preserve his own nation's empire. Like the French, Lloyd George also supported secret treaties and naval blockades. Prior to the war, Germany had been Britain's main competitor and its largest trading partner, making the destruction of Germany at best a mixed blessing. Lloyd George managed to increase the overall reparations payment and Britain's share by demanding compensation for the huge number of widows, orphans, and men left unable to work through injury, due to the war. Due to pressure of the public Lloyd George supported the slogan "Hang the Kaiser" to make his people happy and gain votes.

>> No.2330948

>>2330636
As much as I hate the US, it's kinda like a love hate relationship.
Without them the muslams would probably have everything their way.
Pathetic claim-to-be-peaceful muslams would rather keep mum against their brethren' atrocities.

>> No.2330952

>>2330945
>United States' aims: There had been strong non-interventionist sentiment before and after the United States entered the war in April 1917, and many Americans were eager to extricate themselves from European affairs as rapidly as possible. The United States took a more conciliatory view toward the issue of German reparations. American Leaders wanted to ensure the success of future trading opportunities and favourably collect on the European debt, and hoped to avoid future wars.
Also look up the Fourteen Points, no, I'll just post them next.

>> No.2330957

>>2330948
Get out of /jp/, sassenach.

>> No.2330966

>>2330952
# Open covenants of peace, openly arrived at, after which there shall be no private international understandings of any kind but diplomacy shall proceed always frankly and in the public view.
# Absolute freedom of navigation upon the seas, outside territorial waters, alike in peace and in war, except as the seas may be closed in whole or in part by international action for the enforcement of international covenants.
# The removal, so far as possible, of all economic barriers and the establishment of equality of trade conditions among all the nations consenting to the peace and associating themselves for its maintenance.
# Adequate guarantees given and taken that national armaments will be reduced to the lowest point consistent with domestic safety.
# A free, open-minded, and absolutely impartial adjustment of all colonial claims, based upon a strict observance of the principle that in determining all such questions of sovereignty the interests of the populations concerned must have equal weight with the equitable claims of the government whose title is to be determined.

>> No.2330969

>>2330966
# The evacuation of all Russian territory and such a settlement of all questions affecting Russia as will secure the best and freest cooperation of the other nations of the world in obtaining for her an unhampered and unembarrassed opportunity for the independent determination of her own political development and national policy and assure her of a sincere welcome into the society of free nations under institutions of her own choosing; and, more than a welcome, assistance also of every kind that she may need and may herself desire. The treatment accorded Russia by her sister nations in the months to come will be the acid test of their good will, of their comprehension of her needs as distinguished from their own interests, and of their intelligent and unselfish sympathy.
# Belgium, the whole world will agree, must be evacuated and restored, without any attempt to limit the sovereignty which she enjoys in common with all other free nations. No other single act will serve as this will serve to restore confidence among the nations in the laws which they have themselves set and determined for the government of their relations with one another. Without this healing act the whole structure and validity of international law is forever impaired.
# All French territory should be freed and the invaded portions restored, and the wrong done to France by Prussia in 1871 in the matter of Alsace-Lorraine, which has unsettled the peace of the world for nearly fifty years, should be righted, in order that peace may once more be made secure in the interest of all.
# A readjustment of the frontiers of Italy should be effected along clearly recognizable lines of nationality.
# The peoples of Austria-Hungary, whose place among the nations we wish to see safeguarded and assured, should be accorded the freest opportunity to autonomous development.

>> No.2330972

>>2330942
And if the US wasn't backing the French up in making their demands? They would've folded and raised the white flag, settling for a mere tin of kraut.

>> No.2330975

>>2330972
You still seem to be under the impression that Europe gave a shit what the US thought at the time. You weren't always the world's police force.

>> No.2330976

>>2330969
# Romania, Serbia, and Montenegro should be evacuated; occupied territories restored; Serbia accorded free and secure access to the sea; and the relations of the several Balkan states to one another determined by friendly counsel along historically established lines of allegiance and nationality; and international guarantees of the political and economic independence and territorial integrity of the several Balkan states should be entered into.
# The Turkish portion of the present Ottoman Empire should be assured a secure sovereignty, but the other nationalities which are now under Turkish rule should be assured an undoubted security of life and an absolutely unmolested opportunity of autonomous development, and the Dardanelles should be permanently opened as a free passage to the ships and commerce of all nations under international guarantees.
# An independent Polish state should be erected which should include the territories inhabited by indisputably Polish populations, which should be assured a free and secure access to the sea, and whose political and economic independence and territorial integrity should be guaranteed by international covenant.
# A general association of nations must be formed under specific covenants for the purpose of affording mutual guarantees of political independence and territorial integrity to great and small states alike.

>> No.2330980

>>2330976
Also the U.S. never even signed the Treaty of Versailles.
>The United States Senate refused to ratify the Treaty of Versailles, making it invalid in the United States and effectively hamstringing the nascent League of Nations envisioned by Wilson. The largest obstacle faced in the ratification of the Treaty of Versailles was the opposition of Henry Cabot Lodge. It has also been said that Wilson himself was the second-largest obstacle, not least because he kept the leaders of the Republican-led Congress in the dark during treaty deliberations, and refused to support the treaty with any of the alterations proposed by the United States Senate. One of the largest obstacles was over the League of Nations. Congress believed that committing to the League of Nations also meant committing U.S. troops to any conflicts that might have arisen.

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We all know who will win this war.

North Korea can never defeat the greatest nation on Earth.

>> No.2330989

>>2330972
U.S. didn't back them up, in fact the U.S. turned them down on the Treaty of Versailles.

>> No.2330991

>>2330957
Lol. No.

>> No.2330993

>>2330934

Is that it ? Surely gigantic faggot like you can do better to defend your beloved US ?

>> No.2330995

>>2330972
usa was totally uninteresting to european countries until the 2nd world war.

>> No.2331004

>>2330942
>>2330945
>>2330952
>>2330966
>>2330969
>>2330976
>>2330980
So you can see that the U.S. didn't even want to get involved let alone try and run things, it was only after WW2 that the U.S. did anything of the sort. And it looks like most people would have rather the Russians make the decisions by the looks of things.

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2331007

Hahaha oh wow, this thread.

Amerikkunts will never be loved by the rest of the world, deal with it faggot. You people are too damned arrogant to see your own fault even when it's right up in your ass.

>> No.2331015

why is it that somebody in this thread is too retarded to write america/usa correctly and spells it with two "k"s ??

>> No.2331022

>>2331004

true. it was either the russians or the us. and there has always been a "world police" when the globe started to open up. it was the british or w/e european country b4.

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>>2331007

Oh, that's nice. We'll be waiting for you to come crawling to use for help once China invades Europe.

>> No.2331030

>>2331007
If you can't tell by now, we don't give a fuck, which is why everyone hate the US, not because we go around telling everyone what to do, but because you can't tell us what to do.

>> No.2331033

>>2331004
No one needs to make decisions anymore about anyone else. We should stop trying to intervene in these country's affairs and let them do what they want. It really doesn't matter unless they try to attack us directly. We need to withdraw all of our military from Europe and Asia and let them defend themselves, as we provide them with an aegis of defense that they contribute little to the cost of. I'm all for non-interventionism and that seems to be what most people want.

Basically, I want the US to go back to how it was before WW2. We should focus on making money, lots of it, through purely financial means, not starting wars. Wars cost too much and offer too little in return, just look at Iraq.

>> No.2331041

>>2331015

the amerifag here and even i knw hes doing that on purpose to spite us (unsuccessfully)

>>2331007

In case you still havent noticed we are not trying to be liked.

>> No.2331043

>>2331015

I smell some newfags here...

>> No.2331047

Well, Japan is going to be fucked
For intercepting ballistic missles, the patriot sucks ass.
If they wanted something that works, they should've bought some Israeli "Khetz-2"
Now Korea will nuke Japan, and we'll get a real action Utawarerumono.

>> No.2331051

>>2331033
you can't make money by being isolationist.

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>>2331025
>Europe crawling to a bankrupt country.

>> No.2331054

>>2331015
I'm pretty sure they meant three, but don't even know how to troll right. It's a shame how low grade these trolls are getting in /jp/. Here I'm just waiting for another translation thread to troll how terrible the newfags are at simple english grammar.

>> No.2331055

>>2331033

exactly. we are not trying to defend our actions rather see learn how it all went wrong.

>> No.2331059

>>2331041

It would be more convincing that you're another guy by not adding the (). Failed samefaggotry is always failed.

>> No.2331060

>>2331051
I never said we should stop trading, bro. In fact, we should get rid of most, if not all, of our embargoes.

>> No.2331061

>>2331041
us ?
I'm not from north or south america, i was just wondering.

>> No.2331063

>>2331052

we are only "bankrupt" now because we put all our $ into the military

>> No.2331064

>>2331060
and then not defend the lucrative trading partner?

>> No.2331066

>>2331061

0/10

Nice try,though

>> No.2331069

>>2331063
>we are only "bankrupt" now because we put all our $ into real estate

>> No.2331073

>>2331063
China owns your country, it might be cutting off the nose to spite the face but they could ruin you. You wouldn't get involved in a war against China.

>> No.2331076

>>2331064
They should be able to defend themselves. Just look at Japan here: a very lucrative trading partner that's taking measures to defend itself from a possible missile attack.

>> No.2331083
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>>2331052

Europe doesn't have a military. You people won't win against China.

Meanwhile, we are the strongest and richest nation on Earth. We uphold the rights and liberties of the common man, and spread democracy and peace throughout the world.

We will win.

>> No.2331086

>>2331051
...? Oh, you seem to be retarded. Or just not honestly understand how economics work. Money was, back in the day, based on gold. The gold standard is a beautiful thing since it's how much gold you can get for your country's currency. Gold just made everything work well.

Now, what you are thinking, since a country doesn't trade it won't make money is just wrong. Money is based on precious metals. We trade to get these precious metals. You don't need them, but it's how we define worth. A strong economy has, simply, a lot of shiny shit.
There are plenty of worthless currencies, and that's because they don't have, or has had taken, any precious metals. So Zimbabwe dollars are worth nearly nothing.

>> No.2331093

>>2331083
You're part of the problem. Why do you want to defend Europe? Europe can defend itself. It's your money that's paying for our military bases there.

>> No.2331103

>>2330988
lol that's what they said in the vietnam war
we all know who won THAT war lol

>> No.2331104

>>233109
yhbt

>> No.2331106

>>2331083
That's not true. Since Europe doesn't have any need to war; lack of honor, testicles, and basic human ideals, they are able to drop enormous amounts of money into making weaponry. Nobody can use it, but they like pretending ever so much. Sure, you hear the Swiss trained personnel are the best in the god damn world, but they are just mercenaries for the pope.

Since they don't ever use any of it, they can just scrap their old shit, melt it down, and make the newer shit without having to waste anything.

Imagine Europe like gun collectors in the middle of Alaska. Can't shoot shit besides the bears.

>> No.2331107

>>2331063

Military spending CAN be profitable. Russia makes a shitload of money exporting military technology. The US, not so much, because they're paranoid and refuse to sell anybody anything except old outdated shit like F-16s.

>> No.2331108

>>2331083
>Europe doesn't have a military.

wrong, we don't have the generals with a huge load of experience, but we have the military.

>>2331066
whatever, troll.

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>>2331083

It's obvious that there're trolls in here, yet people are replying to them,instead of using sage like they should be.

>> No.2331121

>>2331103
Yes, because supporting Koreans to kill Koreans is easy. North and South ones look so different that we could tell when we were shooting the right ones.

They used the same tactics we did in the Civil War and are in a thick jungle. Of course we weren't allowed to burn down the fucking jungles, but were told to eradicate the northern monkeys and protect the southern monkeys.

I'm sorry we lost the south Korean's civil war for them.

>> No.2331139

I don't understand why people hate America.

We're the best country in the world to live, we get everything the cheapest, and we value freedom and democracy.

>> No.2331148

Kryzpo is a brand of potato snacks, similar to Pringles. The producer is Corpora Tresmontes S.A, in Casablanca between Valparaíso and San Antonio, Chile. They are exported to Argentina, Peru, Panama, Paraguay, Ecuador ammong others. The chips are made of dehydrated potatoes, vegetable oil and / or partially hydrogenated vegetable oil, maltodextrin, modified and unmodified potato starch, salt, emulsifier (fatty acids mono and diglycerides), dextrose, silicon dioxide. The packaging consists of an upright tubular can with a foil interior, and a resealable plastic lid.

>> No.2331150

>>2331139
But, you're not Japan.

>> No.2331155

>>2331121

I think he's referring to Vietnam war, why the fuck are you talking about fucking Koreans ?

>> No.2331164

Dear weeaboos, just keep arguing which Touhoe is the best and don't try dabbling in other fields. You haven't the faintest knowledge in geopolitics and you are all just talking out of your fucking asses.

>> No.2331171

>>2331139
The Beta Male hates the Alpha Male sort of relationship?
Since you can't be the top psychologically they try to mathematically prove superiority through statistics and reality "based" facts.

Sure, enjoy your metric system saying it's incredibly superior to Standard. I'll enjoy my antique house designs in proper Standard and superior simple cooking.

>> No.2331173

>>2331139
>We're the best country in the world to live

Best be joking nigga. The place where everybody has to own gun to protect himself is really not my ideal living place.

>we get everything the cheapest
I get everything half-priced at China.AND no tips.

>we value freedom and democracy
Yeah,man.Like in Guantanamo.

>> No.2331177

I think the US should focus on protecting ourselves, but I do care about our allies and would like to help them if they are in trouble...

>> No.2331180

>>2331155
Freudian slip. Thought gook, came out as korean.

>> No.2331186

>>2331164
Unlike you, I assume?

>> No.2331189

>>2331173
Why do you look like the same person trying too hard to troll? Christ, you should at least change the way you type.

>> No.2331191

>>2331164
Way to ironic.

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>>2331189

Nice work there, mr.detective

>> No.2331209

They really shouldn't be using Patriot missles. They are just gonna look good and hit the other missle as it goes until the last minute when it will just miss.

>> No.2331219

>>2331173
If you're Chinese, you're not in a position to lol Gauntanamo us. Ha ha.

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>>2331121
I'm assuming that you mean Vietnamese? In which case, no, northern and southern Vietnamese don't have any significantly different facial features. And if it was so easy, how come you lost?

The US is only good at bullying third world countries. Just look at what happened in the actual Korean war. You and your South Korean puppets were kicking ass until an actual military power, China, got involved.

And now you think you're tough because you fly around the Middle East dropping bombs on women, children and angry bearded men armed with spears. GJ, America. GJ.

>> No.2331234

>>2331219

You'd be surprised to know that I lived much nearer to your shithole than you expect, USfag.

>> No.2331236

Why cant the japanese use GN Tau Drive gundams to kill the Korea?

>> No.2331237

>>2331219
Oh, and why is that? Please elaborate.

Fox News doesn't count as a valid citation, before you continue.

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>>2331204

>> No.2331248

>>2331237
Tibet is like one XBAX HUGE Guantanamo.

>> No.2331249
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The US would lose miserably in a war with China. Discuss.

>> No.2331258

>>2331229

And China wasn't even a good military power during the Korean War. They literally had no air force whatsoever!

>> No.2331259

>>2331229
Holy fuck, your ability to comprehend sarcasm is off the scales.

>> No.2331263

>>2331237

China is a communist dictatorship that tortures and kills its own population for speaking out. They don't have freedom of speech, while we Americans do.

>>2331229

The middle east has terrorists. What's wrong with that?

>> No.2331269

>>2331229

We would have fought the Chinese if MacArthur didn't get sacked by Truman because back then the USSR liked China.

>>2331237

CCTV isn't a reliable source either.

>> No.2331270

>>2331248
Good point, Croatia!

>> No.2331278

>>2331248
No it's not. It's just an autonomous region of the country.

Tell me, have you ever actually visited Tibet yourself? I have, before all this international drama started. Most people I saw there didn't really care either way about being a part of China and the Han population there is much larger than you might think.

I'm skeptical about all the stuff I see on TV now. I saw a video on BBC news a while ago that claimed that the police in Tibet were violently putting down Tibetan monks' protests. The police in this video were wearing Nepalese uniforms. It's fucking ridiculous and I feel like China is being persecuted unfairly.

>> No.2331289

>>2331258

War-harden veterans after almost 20yrs of non-stop fighting + zerg rush/hit and run tactics can be a bitch.

>>2331249

Depends on who is invading who.

>> No.2331291

>>2331249
Let's have one and find out.

>> No.2331296

>>2331249

Fallout 3 agrees. US is such a loser.

>> No.2331305

>>2331269
Doesn't change the fact that you were practically at the Chinese border when they got involved and pushed you right back to the DMZ. You lost that war, admit it.

>> No.2331310

>>2331296
Someone didn't play the Anchorage simulator...

>> No.2331311

>>2331289

>Depends on who is invading who.

This. All these ridiculous fantasy football matchups that people in /k/ talk about constantly are retarded, because the invading country is the loser.

>> No.2331313

>>2331278
As far as I know about Tiber people are too concerned on how to survive another day then to care who the hell is the "master".

>Tell me, have you ever actually visited Tibet yourself?
God no, if i wanted to go to a third world like placei can just go 200 kilometers to Bosnia. Hell I can walk just step out of my house.
Why the hell would you visit tibet!?

>I'm skeptical about all the stuff I see on TV now.
You should be always skeptical of BIG NEWS COMPANIES. They tend to prefer people with POWER.

>> No.2331317

>>2331278
Then it's fair game for other countries to take it as well then.
Since they never cared who's running Tibet.

Everyone's a good guy then, ha ha ha.

>> No.2331320

>>2331305

It was a stalemate actually. Both China and the US succeeded in their primary objectives and failed their secondary objectives (stopping the enemy Korea from conquering the friendly Korea being the primary, and annexing the opposing Korea being the secondary).

>> No.2331324

>>2331305
Thanks for actually doing something instead of sitting on your fat asses while we tried to stop the aftermath of the bullshit your countries started in the 40s.

>> No.2331329

>>2331305
War's not over yet.

>> No.2331326 [DELETED] 

>>2331305
War's no over yet.

>> No.2331339

>>2331305

We weren't allowed to cutoff the Chinese' supply lines, depots and industrial factories so yes.

>> No.2331341

>>2331313
>Why the hell would you visit tibet!?

I was travelling around the People's Republic of China. Which Tibet is a part of. Ever since it was liberated from the autocratic regime with a caste system that the Dalai Lama ruled over with an iron fist.

>> No.2331354

>>2331341
All the more reason to let a bigger country rule it.
But China's a communist, so, hmmmm....

>> No.2331357

>>2331341
Kind of like how the Americans liberated the Indians from their terrible dictators.

>> No.2331366

>>2331357

Err the Americans have pretty much admitted to the fact that they were wrong and have given them casinos now as a sorry gift.

>> No.2331368

>>2331357
What was the result?
My recollection of history's a bit fuzzy..

>> No.2331369

>>2331357
Uh, no. Not really.

>> No.2331370
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You have to admit that the palace is fucking cool.

>> No.2331373

>>2331370
Fuck yeah. CS map here I come!

>> No.2331381

>>2331370
It really is. And it also serves to prove my point even further. The Dalai Lama was living in this thing while the majority of his subjects were living in horrible conditions.

I really don't see how anyone can be against what China did for the region. Brainwashed by the pro-American media, all of them.

>> No.2331384

>>2331357

Native Americans =/= Tibetans

The Chinese take-over is a massive improvement for anyone in Tibet who wasn't on top.

>> No.2331391

>>2331381
How come China's keeping mum about their achievements in Tibet. We never see them claim credit for all the goodness and development brought to Tibet. Why. Why?

>> No.2331395

only 20 more posts till this thread dies

>> No.2331396

>>2331381

Well it would be stupid to deny that they are better off today than they were under the Dalai Llama's rule. The question is though, were they justified in annexing them in the first place? Just because Zimbabwe would be better off if Sweden suddenly invaded and annexed them, doesn't make that invasion justified.

Myself, I don't know. But I think it's hypocritical for Americans to get all high and mighty about the invasion of Tibet until they give Mexico back the huge chunks of land they stole from them.

>> No.2331398

>>2331391
>We never see them

Not in the western pro-American media, of course you don't. Try looking in history textbooks if you want the truth.

>> No.2331408

>>2331391

Um, what? They do all the time. They even have a national holiday in Tibet called "National liberation from Serfdom Day" or something.

>> No.2331409
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The amerikkkans are inhumane monsters North Koreans can prove it!

>> No.2331411

>>2331370
LOL convience stores

>> No.2331423

>>2331409
lol good one
klu klux klan
ameri-kkk-an

>> No.2331428

>>2331396
Well, this is a point that I can actually understand. Whether the territory rightfully belongs to the PRC because it was a part of the different Chinese dynasties throughout history is contentious.

I believe that it is just as much as part of China as the former Manchu territory, Shanxi, Guanxi and other places that have been essentially seperated at points in the history of the country. I can't really say if the liberation of Tibet was justified on political grounds, but on moral grounds, it certainly was.

My main issue is with the teenage politicos who hear some lies on CNN and suddenly want to jump on the "Free Tibet" bandwagon. It's annoying.

>> No.2331429

>>2331396

The US paid Mexico some $ you know. Look it up. And other thing is Mexico seems to have no problems with this past event along other countries.

>> No.2331436

>>2331398

You should just go ahead and admit you work for the Chinese government.

Whatever stance the US government takes, I will take also. Tibet deserves independence.

>> No.2331437

An anti-US sentimentals in an US imageboard.

Real smooth there, faggots

>> No.2331442

A few more posts till this dies.

>> No.2331443

>>2331436
I'm posting from Glasgow, Scotland. Dumbass.

>> No.2331448

>>2331436

So you conclusion is that everyone who sides with them is under Chinese payrolls ?

How so...american.

>> No.2331449

>>2331436
>Whatever stance the US government takes, I will take also

Ein Volk, ein Reich, ein Führer!

>> No.2331450

>>2331443

I guess that's kinda ironic. Don't you want independence from those English assholes?

>> No.2331451

>>2331391
My point is that why not China claim credit for it to argue that Tibet should really BE under their rule?
Surely some other news site would have reported it, like Al-Jazeera.

>> No.2331454

>>2331381
>The Dalai Lama was living in this thing while the majority of his subjects were living in horrible conditions.

SOUNDS LIKE CHINA TO ME

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>>2331398
Come on, you have to have something better than that.

>> No.2331463

>>2331455

And? She left the kitchen damn it.

>> No.2331466

>>2331450
I do, yeah. The reason we're part of the union now is because the English bailed us out with that condition after our failed attempt at colonialism (Google "darien scheme).

How is that anything like what happened in Tibet? Does being against the seperation of one country mean that I have to be against them all?

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>>2331455
Because it's a little late for a cover up.

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>>2331470
Since there's not much left to cover up.

>> No.2331482

>>2331454

well they're all chinese.

you shouldn't be too surprised anyway. I heard you people got mixed and dominated by chinese through fucking your women,is that true ?

>> No.2331487

dead?

>> No.2331503

>>2331454

The president of China does not live a lavish lifestyle.

>>2331470

I remember in /k/ there was a thread about these pictures. She was executed because she was convicted of poisoning her husband. Just because the method of execution is a little more messy than lethal injection, doesn't make it worse than US execution. Death is quick and painless. Actually, in some regions of China they are now starting to use lethal injection.

>> No.2331505

dead!

>> No.2331519

>>2331437
>US imageboard
>/jp/
wwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww

>> No.2331520

>>2331455
Well, I'm against the death penalty and I don't see how this is related to Tibetan independence. You realise that the US also executes criminals, don't you?

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>>2331520
U.S. doesn't do mass executions, especially not ones right after mass public trials in stadiums.

>> No.2331572

>>2331555

I also believe that those pics are from the 1970s.

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>>2331572
Prove it, since you must have some reason for saying they're from the 70's.

>> No.2331609

>>2331555
Neither does China.

>> No.2331619

>>2331600
That guy's hairstyle, for one.

>> No.2331624

>>2331600

The military uniforms are definitely NOT what they use today. They're clearly old.

>> No.2331625

>>2331600
Old military uniform.

>> No.2331629

>>2331609
Looks like those pics say differently.

>> No.2331635

>>2331629
Could I post pics of native Americans and then claim that the US is currently committing genocide?

>> No.2331637

And ... is that Grease playing on the TV?!

>> No.2331639

>>2331629
We're talking about the present. Those pics are clearly from the 60s or 70s.

>> No.2331656

Anyway, I'm pretty much finished with this thread now that's it's dead. Have fun with your Fox News depictions of China.

>> No.2332233

isn't it about time japan release their mechs?

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