I'm confused. So this game took place after FSN(HF route) or FHA ? Caren is already in it from the beginning, but they acted as though this is the first time they met Bazett..

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Anonymous Thu Mar 26 10:43:04 2009 No.2314595 [Reply] [Original]

I'm confused. So this game took place after FSN(HF route) or FHA ?

Caren is already in it from the beginning, but they acted as though this is the first time they met Bazett..

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 26 10:44:04 2009 No.2314599 Caren is such a slut...Needs raep.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 26 10:45:04 2009 No.2314600 Fate Stay Wars?

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 26 10:48:04 2009 No.2314610 >>2314599 Can't blame her. The whole family is so fucked up.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 26 10:49:04 2009 No.2314613 File: 134 KB, 500x375, BMWImage.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Some sort of combination of Heaven's Feel and Hollow Ataraxia. Also awesome game is awesome.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 26 10:52:04 2009 No.2314621 File: 130 KB, 480x272, 1235723781593.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2314610

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 26 10:57:04 2009 No.2314641 >>2314613 But the whole story is so fucked up...

>>	Karesh !kw3EPy0aUY Thu Mar 26 10:58:04 2009 No.2314644 STOP THINKING ABOUT IT. DESTROY SOME FOOLS.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 26 10:59:04 2009 No.2314645 Lancer and Rider felt... underpowered.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 26 11:00:04 2009 No.2314651 Forgive my ignorance, but what game is this? BMW?

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 26 11:01:04 2009 No.2314652 >>2314645 Most Fate characters in it are underpowered. Seems like Werks just hate F/SN.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 26 11:09:04 2009 No.2314671 >>2314652 Archer's UBW animation makes up for that

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 26 11:18:04 2009 No.2314690 >>2314651 Yes, Battle Moon Wars. >>2314652 Hm, I suppose you're right. Archer and (after a little work) Shirou are one man armies with most other characters being left in the dust. At least Caren had that full heal spirit.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 26 11:21:04 2009 No.2314700 Caren's organ moves are the most awesome thing I've seen in Fate-related franchise.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 26 11:24:04 2009 No.2314704 >>2314690 You misspelled Shiki and Shiki, bro.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 26 11:29:04 2009 No.2314716 >>2314704 Shiki and Shiki are a whole level above them, bro.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 26 11:37:04 2009 No.2314737 >>2314641 It's fanwork which tried to create a plot to tie-in all characters, instead of exploring each settings first then bring them together. Inevitable.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 26 12:22:04 2009 No.2314860 File: 45 KB, 640x480, garcher1.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] It's good to see that even in doujin game, he never stopped giving us his GAR quality.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 26 12:43:04 2009 No.2314908 >>2314704 >>2314716 You lost me here...

White Ren !YLuFFdRcFQ Thu Mar 26 12:45:04 2009 No.2314913

It's a clusterfuck of everything in the Type-Moon universe. If you never played Super Robot Taisen, then you won't understand. The plot making sense is retarded when you realize Sacchin uses God Gundam's God Finger.

Also, Araya's bgm and second Arm are pimping.

iRage !RAGEpq8/Ww Thu Mar 26 12:58:04 2009 No.2314967

I love some of the animations, especially Enuma Elish, Ciel's third arm, Arc's marble phantasm, UBW and Fragarach.

The story is nonsense though, it's just fun as fuck to play. I find the casters quite weak though, throwing revenge and range increasing items on melee is just much more effective.

>>	White Ren !YLuFFdRcFQ Thu Mar 26 13:02:04 2009 No.2314977 >>2314967 Red Arcueid's arms are also fun. The first one, because the placement looks like she's giving an abortion. The second one, because she drops the fucking moon on you.

>>	iRage !RAGEpq8/Ww Thu Mar 26 13:05:04 2009 No.2314983 File: 133 KB, 640x480, asdf.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2314977 >The first one, because the placement looks like she's giving an abortion. ahaha oh wow

>>	iRage !RAGEpq8/Ww Thu Mar 26 13:05:04 2009 No.2314987 File: 108 KB, 640x480, asdf.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2314983

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 26 13:06:04 2009 No.2314991 >>2314913 SRW games USE the original plots that are tied up with original elements. These guys took the CONCLUSIONS and built a new plot rightaway, while reusing characters. It makes a surprising difference.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 26 13:06:04 2009 No.2314992 File: 22 KB, 330x317, 1236663780424.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2314977 lol moon drop

>>	iRage !RAGEpq8/Ww Thu Mar 26 13:08:04 2009 No.2314994 File: 105 KB, 640x480, asdf.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Ea's is still by far my favorite.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 26 13:17:04 2009 No.2315018 >>2314994 needs more Golden Hammer

>>	iRage !RAGEpq8/Ww Thu Mar 26 13:20:04 2009 No.2315032 File: 128 KB, 640x480, asdf.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2315018 That thing looks so fucking retarded.

>>	Taiko Drum Master !dqTSUNDERE Thu Mar 26 13:21:04 2009 No.2315038 >>2315032 it's like a gunblade except there's only the barrel

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 26 13:25:04 2009 No.2315045 File: 40 KB, 640x480, gunhammer.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2315032 Is that so?

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 26 13:26:04 2009 No.2315058 >>2314913 Sacchin is Domon's daughter.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 26 13:27:04 2009 No.2315061 File: 1011 KB, 2268x1719, gunhammer2.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2315045

>>	Taiko Drum Master !dqTSUNDERE Thu Mar 26 13:28:04 2009 No.2315072 >>2315061 i wish i had a cock

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 26 13:43:04 2009 No.2315101 >>2314645 Lancer? Under powered? Are you retarded? Upgrade his quick and give him that sp regenerate ability, use his accuracy+evade up every turn and never be hit EVER.

>>	iRage !RAGEpq8/Ww Thu Mar 26 13:46:04 2009 No.2315105 >>2315101 I love using lancer to spam Gae Bolg on medium strength enemies, but his lack of ability to counter at point blank was annoying.

>>	That guy who posts Sacchin sometimes Thu Mar 26 13:46:04 2009 No.2315106 File: 99 KB, 1165x870, Sacchin Shining Finger2.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Sacchin is a fucking BEAST in this game. Jesus christ I mean just god damn

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 26 13:47:04 2009 No.2315107 >>2315106 Haha holy shit that rocks.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 26 13:47:04 2009 No.2315109 File: 32 KB, 150x163, Sakuraslut01.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2314967 >>I love some of the animations I haven't played the game, but this looks awesome.

>>	That guy who posts Sacchin sometimes Thu Mar 26 13:49:04 2009 No.2315112 File: 77 KB, 1161x783, Sacchin Shining Finger3.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2315107 Because of your encouragment, I'll post the entire attack, as I SS'd it for my own personal reasons.

>>	That guy who posts Sacchin sometimes Thu Mar 26 13:50:04 2009 No.2315113 File: 69 KB, 1167x734, Sacchin Shining Finger4.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2315112

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 26 13:50:04 2009 No.2315114 Download links please? I downloaded one on /rs/ and it doesnt want to work

>>	That guy who posts Sacchin sometimes Thu Mar 26 13:50:04 2009 No.2315117 File: 78 KB, 1170x861, Sacchin Shining Finger5.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2315113

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 26 13:51:04 2009 No.2315118 Is there any "bulid" for Archer? Because my UBW deals less damage then "Nine Lives" and I find this strange. Also Shiki and Lancer are god tier.

>>	iRage !RAGEpq8/Ww Thu Mar 26 13:51:04 2009 No.2315119 >>2315114 There's a working one on hongfire.

>>	That guy who posts Sacchin sometimes Thu Mar 26 13:51:04 2009 No.2315120 File: 88 KB, 1166x875, Sacchin Shining Finger6.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2315117 ~Fin

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 26 13:52:04 2009 No.2315122 >>2315109 Wow, she's not even moving that much and look at them bounce so much.

>>	iRage !RAGEpq8/Ww Thu Mar 26 13:55:04 2009 No.2315126 File: 143 KB, 640x480, asdf.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2315106 blurry pics are blurry

>>	iRage !RAGEpq8/Ww Thu Mar 26 13:58:04 2009 No.2315139 >>2315118 I just spammed the shit out of CARADOBORUGU.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 26 13:58:04 2009 No.2315140 >>2314967 >Ciel's third arm Wait, what? An animation error, a game-only attack, or something I just don't know about yet? >>2315119 Any working ones that aren't on hongfire? I can't use torrents due to network monitoring.

>>	iRage !RAGEpq8/Ww Thu Mar 26 13:59:04 2009 No.2315144 >>2315140 There's a rapidshit or megaupload one with patches up to the third act or so on hongfire (and a download for the fourth act as well). It works perfectly, I used it.

>>	iRage !RAGEpq8/Ww Thu Mar 26 14:02:04 2009 No.2315154 >>2315140 Also, arm=attack.

>>	Van Artic Thu Mar 26 14:02:04 2009 No.2315155 a question. (absolutely not troll, i'm fucking serious) how the fuck do i get satsuki in my party? inb4 who is sacchin.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 26 14:02:04 2009 No.2315162 Hey guys, It seems like I just fucked up my install of act 4. really fucked it up. So I'm gonna have to start all over. Cold one of you kind gents remind me of the method?

>>	iRage !RAGEpq8/Ww Thu Mar 26 14:03:04 2009 No.2315164 >>2315155 Use Shiki to "kill" her at least 2/3 of the times you fight her. Super route only, by the way.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 26 14:03:04 2009 No.2315165 >>2315155 Takumi route, you have to beat her with shiki every time you fight her, and you have to protect her perfectly. I think

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 26 14:03:04 2009 No.2315166 >>2315109 Adult Sakura?

>>	Van Artic Thu Mar 26 14:05:04 2009 No.2315173 >>2315164 thanks, since i started the Real route first, many thanks!

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 26 14:05:04 2009 No.2315175 >>2315162 And I mean from the beginning, I remember there being a trick to it.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 26 14:06:04 2009 No.2315176 >>2315155 You get Sacchin in Ch. somewhere in Act III in Real. You get Mech-Hisui in Act IV in Super.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 26 14:06:04 2009 No.2315182 >>2315176 >You get Mech-Hisui in Act IV in Super. I never did; I think you need to have a certain number of kills with the maids to get her

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 26 14:07:04 2009 No.2315184 >>2315144 Oh, shit. Here I thought Hongfire was only for torrents.

>>	Van Artic Thu Mar 26 14:08:04 2009 No.2315188 >>2315176 fffffff, now i'm confused. i didn't got her in real (if you can get her there) and Mech-Hisui neither what i did wrong with mech? didn't toke out with Kohaku perhaps?

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 26 14:09:04 2009 No.2315191 >>2315144 Is it this one? http://www.hongfire.com/forum/showthread.php?t=74937 I would prefer a torrent but I can't find one.

>>	iRage !RAGEpq8/Ww Thu Mar 26 14:09:04 2009 No.2315192 >>2315182 Mech Hisui is like 45 kills with the maids in the Real route.

>>	Van Artic Thu Mar 26 14:10:04 2009 No.2315198 >>2315192 whoa, that's a lot, since the maid are a little weak. thanks again /jp/!

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 26 14:11:04 2009 No.2315203 >>2315192 fuck that, I'll stick with Sacchin

iRage !RAGEpq8/Ww Thu Mar 26 14:12:04 2009 No.2315206

>>2315191
Yeah, seems he updated it from the last time though. When I got it, it was 1-3 patched and a separate download for 4 (unpatched, as it was untranslated at the time). I'm pretty sure it's the same post but updated though.

Hope it works out.

>>	iRage !RAGEpq8/Ww Thu Mar 26 14:14:04 2009 No.2315215 >>2315198 I haven't even bothered myself. You could always do it on a later NewGame+ play through and buff them. Or just level them (kohaku buffs -> hisui reloads -> end turn -> repeat) on a non-timed battle mastery level.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 26 14:15:04 2009 No.2315216 Anything special I need to do to get Ciel on my team? Can't download it right now, but just for future reference...

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 26 14:15:04 2009 No.2315218 Hey guys, I installed 4 (I think correctly) But when I try and load my save for the last stage in real and super it just says "continue next act" or something like that. What did I do wrong?

>>	iRage !RAGEpq8/Ww Thu Mar 26 14:16:04 2009 No.2315219 >>2315216 Nope, Satsuki and Mech Hisui are the only "hidden" characters.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 26 14:16:04 2009 No.2315221 >>2315191 Why are there so many parts if it's only 770mb? What a pain.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 26 14:18:04 2009 No.2315224 >>2315221 Yeah, tell me about it.

>>	iRage !RAGEpq8/Ww Thu Mar 26 14:18:04 2009 No.2315227 >>2315218 No idea. I still have a generic act 4 savegame, want me to upload that so you can check if you can load it? If you can, you'll probably have to start over. If you can't, it's your installation that's broken.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 26 14:18:04 2009 No.2315228 >>2315218 Don't you need to start over whenever you install a new act

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 26 14:18:04 2009 No.2315229 >>2314967 >I find the casters quite weak though, throwing revenge and range increasing items on melee is just much more effective. I dunno, I could do a lot of damage with Akiha, Sakura, Rin, and Touko in a line assisting each other.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 26 14:19:04 2009 No.2315231 >>2315227 Sure, I'd like that.

>>	iRage !RAGEpq8/Ww Thu Mar 26 14:21:04 2009 No.2315235 >>2315229 I used them on my first (unfinished, up until act 3) playthrough, but just raping everything with melee seemed to work better on my second playthrough. >>2315231 Alright, just a minute.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 26 14:22:04 2009 No.2315236 I'm about to start act 4. And I want to know, what kind or characters are regular Arc and Aoko? Like Shiki and lancer are speed types and Saber and Takumi are tanks.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 26 14:23:04 2009 No.2315238 >>2315235 meh, it's not hard to find good tactics you could just send Lancer and Saber in with some spirits and let them rape enemies with counters

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 26 14:24:04 2009 No.2315243 >>2315236 Regular Arc is better than either magical girl version, her marble phantasm rapes and she's faster with more health Aoko you can only use in one level

Anonymous Thu Mar 26 14:25:04 2009 No.2315248

How to break this game.

Upgrade shiki's quick and strength.
Sp recovery ability
More damage on counter ability
+moral everytime he dodges ability
Sp half cost ability

This is just fro my memory, I'd have to check to be sure, But with this build shiki can solo ever map.

>>	iRage !RAGEpq8/Ww Thu Mar 26 14:28:04 2009 No.2315255 >>2315235 Sorry it took so long, doorbell www.mediafire.com/?ymyk2ltyjwn You might need my config file as well, but just try this one to start off with. Don't forget to back yours up.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 26 14:28:04 2009 No.2315258 File: 1 KB, 150x150, wut.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2315243 >>Aoko you can only use in one level

iRage !RAGEpq8/Ww Thu Mar 26 14:30:04 2009 No.2315264

>>2315236
Arc's an INSANE tank, too bad her marble phantasm can't be used after moving. Could use hit&run, I can't recall if she had a lot of spare skill slots.

Aoko's fun to use (her one attack is somewhat the same as her AAD in MB), but you can't buff her iirc, so I only used her to pick off a few near-dead enemies.

>>	iRage !RAGEpq8/Ww Thu Mar 26 14:31:04 2009 No.2315268 >>2315258 Yeah, get 45/50 battle masteries.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 26 14:32:04 2009 No.2315273 File: 171 KB, 1280x1024, what I got.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2315255 Didn't work. Looks like I need to install from scratch. Anyone wanna give me the steps? This is what I have.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 26 14:35:04 2009 No.2315281 I'm Gonna start a new game. I want to destroy it. What are the best builds?

iRage !RAGEpq8/Ww Thu Mar 26 14:37:04 2009 No.2315286

>>2315273
- extract the split rar archive (assuming it's an installed version)
- extract/install the act 4 archive
- install werk's patch or patches, I'm not sure: http://www.werk-zwei.jp/BMW/support.htm - Just try running the latest one and see if it bitches. If it does, run them in order
- install the t/l patch (yours seems smaller than this one): http://bmw.seiha.org/bmw_english4V_95.zip - make sure to let the graphics patch run until it says it's complete

>>	iRage !RAGEpq8/Ww Thu Mar 26 14:38:04 2009 No.2315287 >>2315281 newgame+ or newgame? I'm doing a completely overpowered (standard difficulty rather than buffed) newgame+ runthrough, using only a few real-type characters.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 26 14:41:04 2009 No.2315297 Is ORT in this game? Brunestud of the Crimson Moon maybe?

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 26 14:41:04 2009 No.2315299 >>2315287 New game.

Anonymous Thu Mar 26 14:42:04 2009 No.2315303

>>2315281
Shiki dodges. A LOT. Give him SP regeneration and use Focus on every turn.
Original Male Faggot who lusts over Shiki and Saber get Tanking/HP.
Up Akiha's defence, her Barrier will kill damage.
Good range and map attacks.
Abuse Kohaku's needles/healing.
Abuse Len's status attacks.
Arc is a tank/range hybrid, she needs to use Her skills a lot but is worth it.
Pimp Lancer stats, he can avoid, defend and deal damage in a very good balance.
Ryougi Shiki should get fixed just like Shiki.

The rest, depending on the route you choose.

Anonymous Thu Mar 26 14:45:04 2009 No.2315314

>>2315118

Archer is there so you can abuse his retardedly long range. Don't worry about high damage as much as expanding his range and hit rate. Rape the Boss from half the map away, even more if you can get high ground.

Some maps I just have Archer stand there and just destroy every single trouble enemy on the map before the others can even get to him.

iRage !RAGEpq8/Ww Thu Mar 26 14:48:04 2009 No.2315325

>>2315299
Alright.

Basically, abuse the absolute shit out of counter-attacks. Give everyone you use SP regen (and I went for concentration as well, 20% less SP cost) and use stuff like the +30%evade/hit every turn. Get revenge on everything that runs in to hit stuff point blank. Get make sure all your melee has 5+ move. Get "attacker" (130+will=+20% damage) on everything. You may want to go for... the +1will on dodge for characters like Shiki early on, you can just replace it later when you get will like mad. I hardly upgraded weapons and still got nearly every battle mastery. Abuse the absolute shit out of ShikiT/ShikiR dual attacks, those two together can take off half of a boss's health in one turn (yes, even in the late game). Max out tough for your tanks eventually, quick doesn't need to be maxed (6/10 or so will do, depends on the character). Every character that uses energy should have their energy maxed. Abuse health. How? Lower health = more aggro, Shiki and his 3.9k HP is a fucking enemy magnet, which is delicious.
That's about all I can think of off the bat, I could make a quick (subjective, of course) character list as well if you want me to.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 26 14:48:04 2009 No.2315326 I think it's hilarious that Tohno Shiki is more useful than Ryougi in this game.

>>	iRage !RAGEpq8/Ww Thu Mar 26 14:49:04 2009 No.2315329 >>2315303 >Abuse Kohaku's needles/healing. >Abuse Len's status attacks. I hardly used any of those. Well, healing early in the game, but aside from that. I usually pop a single needle early on and then have them buff each other.

>>	iRage !RAGEpq8/Ww Thu Mar 26 14:50:04 2009 No.2315334 >>2315326 Hah, what? ShikiR has the highest first arm attack in the game iirc.

>>	iRage !RAGEpq8/Ww Thu Mar 26 14:52:04 2009 No.2315338 >>2315303 You know, I hate how saber became mediocre later in the game. Her tough maxed out waaaay to low, I had to stick the berserker card and a ZZ on her.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 26 14:52:04 2009 No.2315342 >>2315334 Not the same guy, but IIRC, all of Tohno's Arms are capable of post movement use, making it easier for him to Accelerate and wipe out mobs. Later on Barrier Ignore just destroys enemies like Berserker.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 26 14:54:04 2009 No.2315348 >>2315325 If you want to that't be awesome.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 26 14:56:04 2009 No.2315353 I always keep the Shikis near each other and spam the fuck out of their dual attack It kills just about anything

iRage !RAGEpq8/Ww Thu Mar 26 14:57:04 2009 No.2315359

>>2315342
I pretty much had them move together most of the time.
ShikiT has:
- further movement (accel)
- Focus (+30%hit/evade)
- post-movement attacks
ShikiR has:
- higher damage
- love (JESUS CHRIST I'M GOING TO RAPE THAT BOSS RIGHT NOW)
- 75% perfect evade even against stuff that has a shitload of hit rate

Personally, I just stuck the rider card on her to make up for the movement, buffed her skill (the 75% perfect evade is only when she has higher skill) and spammed the shit out of her second arm as a counter (which instagibs pretty much every normal enemy).

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 26 14:59:04 2009 No.2315369 I used shiki and lancer to rape every map.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 26 15:00:04 2009 No.2315373 >>2315359 I tried moving them together, but I just finished maps way faster when I had him run way ahead of everyone else and proceed to rape the competition with his Counter.

White Ren !YLuFFdRcFQ Thu Mar 26 15:01:04 2009 No.2315375

I'm gonna write that guide that I said I was gonna write last year, just because everyone wants to know how to pimp their characters.

I'm still not finding the joy in ranged characters. It's annoying to line them up for ranged support attacks, worry about hit and run taking up a slot to kite enemies, and keep them alive. Theoretically, they should be able to do good damage with support attacks, as the numbers show, but god damn.

Akiha is pretty nice if you put her tough through the roof, since she has Red Vermillion to negate anything under 4000, but her arms are so fucking deep that it's impossible to see how she would even be attacked. Not to mention they're not very good overall.

iRage !RAGEpq8/Ww Thu Mar 26 15:02:04 2009 No.2315382

>>2315373
Hah, in my Real runthrough (newgame+) right now, I'm planning to use Fragarach to kill nearly everything later on. Lolcardofkings.
>>2315348
Alright, again, this'll be subjective as fuck and just what I think of them/how I upgraded them. Working on it.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 26 15:02:04 2009 No.2315383 >>2315375 Pair Akiha up with Rin or Sakura

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 26 15:04:04 2009 No.2315389 >>2315375 I dunno man, my Artillery line is fairly effective.

>>	White Ren !YLuFFdRcFQ Thu Mar 26 15:06:04 2009 No.2315396 >>2315389 I just don't find that it beats the simplicity of jamming every melee juggernaught you have right down their throats.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 26 15:08:04 2009 No.2315401 >>2315396 It's better in the early part of the map, when your melee guys haven't gotten time to get into the correct position yet, or if you want to snipe the boss without having to deal with the small fry.

iRage !RAGEpq8/Ww Thu Mar 26 15:10:04 2009 No.2315406

Alright, first part of my personal list:

ShikiR: highest basic attack in the game, buff her skill to make her 75% evade better, rider's boots for extra movement range, dual attack with ShikiT is fucking insane
Touko: post-movement long range attack, her focus is too expensive, use her if you're going for a caster mob but otherwise she's pretty useless
ShikiT: focus every single turn, counter-rape everything. pair him up with ShikiR for the dual attack
Akiha: if you're going for casters, use her. Just put her in the center and abuse offensive and defensive support (she negates 4k damage, so buff her tough and she can take the hits for all of your casters). The AoE is less useful than you initially think.
Ciel: amazing third arm. Aside from that, she's stuck in between quick and tough, which is annoying. Personally, I went with quick and had her Focus every turn, but either way would probably work well. Increase her range a bit and she'll be able to counter nearly everything but point-blank attacks.
Arcueid: FUCK YEAR, TANKING. She can soak damage like mad and does really good damage as well. Her marble phantasm can't be used post-movement but does a shitload of damage.

White Ren !YLuFFdRcFQ Thu Mar 26 15:11:04 2009 No.2315409

>>2315396
In the first turn, I might add, as I have everyone specced out to be within annihilation range on the first move. Lancer goes towards the closest group of ranged attackers, Shiki towards the closest group of melee attackers, and everyone else plows forward. Since Lancer and Shiki have the lowest health, everyone targets them, which gives tons of counters. Since Shiki's arms are so short, Lancer should go for the mid-ranged guys to try to get them to fight. Shiki just molests anything at close range without hesitation.

I mostly ignore long-range enemies until I free up Saber to use her movement spirit to pop over and bitchslap them dead in one hit. Archer with arm extension can function as a backup Shiki without issue, actually doing more damage to normal foes.

Well, let me just write the guide.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 26 15:18:04 2009 No.2315427 >>2315286 Wow iRage, good eye, I didn't even notice I had the wrong patch.

iRage !RAGEpq8/Ww Thu Mar 26 15:19:04 2009 No.2315431

>>2315406
Phantasmoon: stuck in between quick and tough. Just go for tough as the upgrades carry over to Arcueid later. Her high jump can be convenient.
Eclipse: never really used her due to her REALLY shitty movement range. Really good damage on her True Ancestor Ball though, and it's even available after a move. Long-range only and quick based, but if you want to go for arc later you'll go for tough anyway.
Rin: decent (following caster-standards) once she gets her third arm (+cardofkings). Spamming her second with reloads somewhat works early-mid game. Decent quick as well. Again, just stick her next to Akiha if you're going for casters.
Kaleido Ruby: post-movement field attack, but utter shit aside from that
Rider: BELLEROPHONBELLEROPHONBELLEROPHONBELLEROPHON. Use her with offensive support (on your mid-range chars like ciel) (+combo attack?) to fire horses into people's faces over and over. Energy-intensive, but has renew to make up for it. You can turn her into a battery using hisui to give her SP if anyone needs energy. Dodges pretty good as well.

iRage !RAGEpq8/Ww Thu Mar 26 15:28:04 2009 No.2315456

>>2315431
Sion: didn't use her much, but she isn't bad. Somewhat stuck in between quick & tough, but she still dodges decently enough. Damaging second arm, medium range and available post-movement.
Satsuki: TAAAAAANK! Seriously, she's got accel to get into people's faces, an absolute SHITLOAD of tough, a painful melee attack with a base of 3 range and a second attack that utterly rapes. Oh, and she has 6 move base, even without using accel. Jesus.
Archer: Just spam CARADOBORUGU all day long to pick enemies off. But keep him at mid-range because he isn't bad at soaking damage. Stuck between quick & tough but pulls it off, just buff his tough more to make use of Rho Aias.
Takumi: good early-game, absolutely AHAHA OH FUCKING WOW late-game. Damage -1.5k and a shitload of tough means he'll see zeroes for most of the later game. Did well with card of the assassins because he tends to miss, his crits hurt like fuck as well. Oh, his third arm is a really good (mid-)boss killer as well. Burns through energy though, get him mana save.

iRage !RAGEpq8/Ww Thu Mar 26 15:36:04 2009 No.2315479

>>2315456
Haruna: good dodging, good range. pretty good, nothing special though. Can't say much about the combo attack with Natsuki, as I didn't really use it.
Natsuki: use her if you want to go for the combo attack with Haruna, I guess. I didn't, so I hardly used her. Seems to have REALLY good defense though.
Lancer: rapes at mid-range. Give him extra energy and the caster card and have him spam Gae Bolg on the slightly tougher enemies for one-hit kills. Really good dodging, use focus every turn. His AoE attack is also pretty useful as opposed to the others.
Sakura: again, use her if you're going for a caster mob. Pretty good all-rounded support though, she's probably useful even if taken as your only caster. Also: really long range.
Shirou: the only character whose health I actually boosted all the way. His indomitable (when <30hp he only takes 10% of the damage.) is good, so send him off alone to a group of enemies. You can even not defend or evade, just let him get hit. Oh, and get him prevail9.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 26 15:40:04 2009 No.2315486 File: 260 KB, 1280x1024, oh godammit.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] hey guys.

iRage !RAGEpq8/Ww Thu Mar 26 15:42:04 2009 No.2315493

>>2315479
Saber: really good early on and her excalibur is a great boss killer when you first get it. She becomes less good later on due to a lower tough cap than your other tank characters, so give her card of the berserkers and a ZZ alloy. Her magic resistance and avalon boosts are pretty decent. Oh, and her second attack is good for taking the somewhat stronger enemies, even late-game.
Bazett: yse her with the card of kings or don't use her. Send her off alone and have her fragarach fucking everything. Dodges pretty well too and has focus.

There, that was it. Typing it all out took longer than I thought, but I hope it'll be useful for someone.

As for the healers/buffers, just have them spam their skills on each other when they have nothing else to do. Use Hisui as a battery (the SPup skill is actually useful on her, along with the +20sp clothes).

>>	iRage !RAGEpq8/Ww Thu Mar 26 15:43:04 2009 No.2315496 >>2315486 >Please make sure this patch is located in the same directory as bmw.exe Well, is it? I have to ask, seriously. I'm off to eat pancakes, be back in half an hour or so.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 26 15:47:39 2009 No.2315503 File: 167 KB, 1280x1024, Yus.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2315496 Yes. Yes it is.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 26 15:49:04 2009 No.2315510 File: 144 KB, 1280x931, Yus.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2315496 Yes. Yes it is.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 26 15:59:04 2009 No.2315528 >Kaleido Ruby >utter shit I don't think so, Tim.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 26 16:20:04 2009 No.2315571 >>2315528 basic Rin + cardofkings is still better

iRage !RAGEpq8/Ww Thu Mar 26 16:21:04 2009 No.2315574

>>2315528
What?Dhe doesn't get any single target rape skills and 4 of her skills are near-useless.
She's got good quick and post-move range attacks, that's it. Melee still rapes stuff way better.

And like I said, it was subjective.

>>2315510
Give me a screenshot that shows the file size for all of your files. It'll take a while since my upload sucks, but I'll upload any files that have a different file size. And if that fails, I'll just upload my entire BMW folder, slow as fuck as it may be.

>>	iRage !RAGEpq8/Ww Thu Mar 26 16:22:04 2009 No.2315577 >>2315574 And that first "skills" was referring to attacks, that second to spirits.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 26 16:51:04 2009 No.2315654 >>2315574 I figured it out, thank you for your help.

White Ren !YLuFFdRcFQ Thu Mar 26 16:56:04 2009 No.2315682

>>2315571
God, no. Bazett gets Gil's card. In addition to things actually attacking her, Provoke allows you to instantly vaporize any minion with Fragarach or choose who the boss of the stage attacks. A properly built Bazett makes an excellent sponge for the boss's turn, allowing ranged attackers to close in and rape with their upper arms without worrying about being nuked.

>>	iRage !RAGEpq8/Ww Thu Mar 26 16:56:04 2009 No.2315684 >>2315654 You're welcome, happy I could somewhat help.

Anonymous Thu Mar 26 16:58:04 2009 No.2315693

>>2314595
oh, this is a poor translation, Lancer already knew they were fighting their older master. Lancer went ahead and got himself killed, but Karen just wanted him to hold her back.
Whole looping shit, and what the fuck you guys don't have any idea what was going on.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 26 17:07:04 2009 No.2315742 >>2315682 you can get more than one gilcard in a newgame+

>>	White Ren !YLuFFdRcFQ Thu Mar 26 17:15:04 2009 No.2315778 >>2315742 You can rape anything in newgame if you collected enough BP/FP in your first play through. If I design a guide, it's for the first time, not for subsequent new games.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 26 17:41:04 2009 No.2315857 >>2315778 how does newgame work exactly, besides keeping your items?

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 26 17:46:04 2009 No.2315873 >>2315857 It gives you the BP and FP from the first runthrough to use at the beginning

>>	iRage !RAGEpq8/Ww Thu Mar 26 17:51:04 2009 No.2315898 >>2315873 half, iirc

>>	iRage !RAGEpq8/Ww Thu Mar 26 17:55:04 2009 No.2315920 >>2315778 To be fair, if I were to go for casters, I'd drop Bazett and give the card of kings to Rin. About that, what'd be best? 4 casters around akiha with 4defensive & 4offensive support?

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 26 17:58:04 2009 No.2315935 >>2315920 I had Akiha Sakura Rin Touko, where I used Rin to support Touko and Sakura to support Akiha and Rin

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 26 17:59:04 2009 No.2315941 File: 65 KB, 639x480, fuckyeahgilgamesh.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] MONGRELS

>>	iRage !RAGEpq8/Ww Thu Mar 26 18:21:04 2009 No.2316034 File: 874 KB, 640x2400, qsdf.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] What the fuck? I hadn't noticed this.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 26 18:25:04 2009 No.2316048 >>2316034 There's no greater pleasure than being reloaded by Len.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 26 18:29:04 2009 No.2316060 >>2316034 Reloading consuming will has been a stapple in SRW since forever, it shouldn't be surprising to see it here.

>>	iRage !RAGEpq8/Ww Thu Mar 26 18:32:04 2009 No.2316068 >>2316060 I haven't played any SRW games, so I wouldn't know.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 26 18:48:04 2009 No.2316128 File: 658 KB, 1171x857, lencutin.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 26 18:51:04 2009 No.2316136 File: 2.45 MB, 1623x3045, wlencutin.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	iRage !RAGEpq8/Ww Thu Mar 26 18:53:04 2009 No.2316144 File: 18 KB, 125x125, smirk.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2316128 >>2316136

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 26 18:55:04 2009 No.2316145 File: 2.42 MB, 3388x1404, lovelovecutin.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 26 18:59:04 2009 No.2316152 I just recently downloaded this but I keep getting an error as soon as I try to click on the .exe. Any ideas on how to fix it? (I've downloaded the BMW 1-3 English patch on /rs/).

White Ren !YLuFFdRcFQ Thu Mar 26 19:01:04 2009 No.2316159

I've just never seen the purpose in raising a caster group when you can just put every good melee character into your unit choice at the beginning of the stage and not really have room for anyone else except for The Maids/Ren/Caren for support spirits.

>>	iRage !RAGEpq8/Ww Thu Mar 26 19:02:04 2009 No.2316163 >>2316152 Could you be a bit more descriptive than "an error"? The link in >>2315191 should have a working version, by the way.

>>	iRage !RAGEpq8/Ww Thu Mar 26 19:03:04 2009 No.2316168 >>2316159 Neither do I, but I'm planning to do a FUCK YEAR, CASTERS (mostly, anyway) playthrough soon.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 26 19:04:04 2009 No.2316169 File: 69 KB, 461x632, acya03.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2316163 "BattleMoonWars has stopped working. A problem caused the program to stop working..." Seems like the generic Vista error message.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 26 19:04:04 2009 No.2316170 File: 673 KB, 2859x543, kasane_cutin.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	iRage !RAGEpq8/Ww Thu Mar 26 19:13:04 2009 No.2316199 >>2316169 No idea, and seeing how as it's from a generic /rs/ rar, telling you how to install it properly won't help either. I'd say grab it from the posted link, unless someone else has any ideas. Can't really be of any more help, sorry.

>>	White Ren !YLuFFdRcFQ Thu Mar 26 19:14:04 2009 No.2316203 >>2316168 Well, you sort of have to do it for Real route, since you get stuck with none of the good characters from Super route, for the most part.

>>	White Ren !YLuFFdRcFQ Thu Mar 26 19:15:04 2009 No.2316205 >>2316170 Also: That. Ass.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 26 19:20:04 2009 No.2316229 >>2316205 Haruna's is better

>>	White Ren !YLuFFdRcFQ Thu Mar 26 19:27:04 2009 No.2316265 >>2316229 No way. All Haruna has going for her is forehead moe and WILL IT BREAK THROUGH. Ryougi is ass and katana. Cannot be beat.

iRage !RAGEpq8/Ww Thu Mar 26 19:36:04 2009 No.2316298
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>>2316265
>Ryougi is ass and katana. Cannot be beat.
Fuck year. Though neither of them are in it, I had this printed & laminated a few days ago. Though apparently it looks pretty horrible on camera.

Anonymous Thu Mar 26 21:13:04 2009 No.2316693

Okay guys, I have questions here

1. How exactly do you get Mech Hisui in real route ? Get 45 kill for each of maids or 45 kill of theirs put together ?

2.What does the BM point in this game does,apart from making it harder ? I mean, shit,I miss about 10 BM.

3.Exactly how Fragratch and Verg Avesta work ? I'm currently at the stage of Kiritsugu and even though it's 0 % hit for the enemy, when I tried countering it with Verg Avesta it hit me every fucking time.

>>	iRage !RAGEpq8/Ww Thu Mar 26 21:22:04 2009 No.2316724 >>2316693 1. 45 kills combined 2. you get to use aoko on stage 51 (and get to play stage 52 I think, never finished it without getting the masteries) 3. Fragarach just attacks first, it doesn't ignore damage. Verg avesta mirrors damage.

Anonymous Thu Mar 26 21:25:04 2009 No.2316733

>>2314652

You just didn't buff them. No enemy in the game can hit my Lancer, my Archer and Rin can kill most enemies without even getting in their range, and Saber and Shirou are tanks.

But, of course, the Shikis can't be fucking touched if you focus on their speed in the beginning. Mother fuckers are awesome.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 26 21:26:04 2009 No.2316736 Not canon.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 26 21:29:04 2009 No.2316748 >>2316736 HOLY PENIS WHAT A SCOOP

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 26 21:29:04 2009 No.2316751 >>2316693 Verg Avesta makes the enemy hit you EVERY time. Then, Avenger counter-attacks and does the exact same damage. And yes, if Avenger dies before you start your counter-attack, his attack won't count. It's fucking terrible. Don't use Avenger.

>>	White Ren !YLuFFdRcFQ Thu Mar 26 21:30:04 2009 No.2316754 >>2316693 Using Void Avesta means that you will be hit by the enemy's attack, because Void Avesta returns however much damage was done by the enemy. Avenger is a really bad character and you don't use him at all.

>>	iRage !RAGEpq8/Ww Thu Mar 26 21:30:04 2009 No.2316755 >>2316751 I used it once and picked off one or two low health enemies with the daggers.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 26 21:34:04 2009 No.2316775 >>2316751 Good thing you can only use Avenger in two levels

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 26 21:39:04 2009 No.2316786 >>2316775 Indeed. But, another reason why he's worthless. I really hate that Werk reduced him to that. But, then again, wasn't he pretty bad in FHA as well?

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 26 21:42:04 2009 No.2316795 >>2316786 It would be cool if he had like, 30,000HP

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 26 21:43:04 2009 No.2316797 So basically, Avenger is there just so the enemies can raep him ?...how lame.

>>	White Ren !YLuFFdRcFQ Thu Mar 26 21:46:04 2009 No.2316812 >>2316797 Well, if you think about it, it's actually one of the few absolute canon things in BMW!

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 26 21:50:04 2009 No.2316833 File: 45 KB, 640x480, ohshi-.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] OH SHI-

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 26 22:25:04 2009 No.2316928 >>2316833 Archer should've run screaming at him "You made me into what I am,Fuck you!"

>>	White Ren !YLuFFdRcFQ Thu Mar 26 22:30:04 2009 No.2316941 >>2316928 Archer in BMW is cool with who he is once you smash him into little pieces.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 26 22:56:04 2009 No.2317020 File: 222 KB, 640x1551, riry_prev.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Where does this come in, I wonder? The WERK blog has shots of Saber Lily and Magical Amber all over the place...

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 26 23:13:04 2009 No.2317101 File: 1.36 MB, 3005x2308, 1233180363474.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2317020 do want

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 26 23:32:04 2009 No.2317204 File: 41 KB, 320x240, best_stage.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 26 23:35:04 2009 No.2317212 File: 138 KB, 420x360, rifleA.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 26 23:39:04 2009 No.2317236 >>2317020 Saber Lilly and Magical Amber will be added to the game in a later patch. Also, Saber is my Top Ace. <3 She has ZZ Armor and Card of the Casters, and rapes.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 26 23:40:04 2009 No.2317242 >>2317204 oh god what is this I don't even

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 26 23:44:04 2009 No.2317252 File: 159 KB, 662x326, moe die etc.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2317212 Is.... is that Schoolgirl Haruna!?

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 26 23:53:04 2009 No.2317282 >>2317242 Magical Girl team up and Kohaku's army of Mass Produced Mech-Hisui's. Sadly, as Gundam has taught us, the moment something is Mass Produced, it becomes tissue.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 26 23:56:04 2009 No.2317289 File: 114 KB, 660x872, haruna4.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 27 00:05:04 2009 No.2317329 >>2317289 This is utterly adorable.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 27 00:09:04 2009 No.2317348 File: 74 KB, 640x480, lolwat.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2316833 >>2316928 >>2316941 You know, I find it rather stupid that the only person he talked to is Shirou, while Archer just standing there playing dumb like a fucking fool.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 27 00:11:04 2009 No.2317352 >>2317348 Archer doesn't have any plot importance after Rin forms a contract with him

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 27 00:17:04 2009 No.2317378 >>2317348 Archer should have said, "I followed your damned path and I got fucked up. I hate you Dad."

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 27 00:18:04 2009 No.2317388 >>2317352 Well...he did still have some roles on scouting and such...but Werk failing to see how cool it is for all 3 Emiya to come and meet each other is rather lame IMO.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 27 00:20:04 2009 No.2317402 >>2316128 >>2316136 HNNNNNNNNNNGGGGGGGG Len HCG fucking where !?

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 27 00:27:04 2009 No.2317430 >>2317388 I suppose >>2314652 already gave an explanation to this.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 27 00:27:04 2009 No.2317432 File: 14 KB, 334x402, despair.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2317348 >You didn't follow my path. Haha, yeah,right. Look again asshole.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 27 00:28:04 2009 No.2317440 File: 64 KB, 480x640, threegenerationsofemiya.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2317388 It would be awesome. Poor Archer though.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 27 00:34:04 2009 No.2317471 >>2317402 In Kagetsu Tohya. Go there.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 27 01:01:04 2009 No.2317616 File: 52 KB, 640x480, caren.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Caren was here. Bazett is a loser.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 27 03:07:04 2009 No.2318090 >>2317348 Isn't it sad , Archer ?

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 27 03:29:04 2009 No.2318155 >>2314652 CCC seems the same way.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 27 03:36:04 2009 No.2318170 File: 156 KB, 1280x800, can't start.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Got a .rar for BMW 1-3 but I can't install it through config. What am I doing wrong?

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 27 03:46:04 2009 No.2318186 >>2318170 Just use the bmw.exe to play man.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 27 03:51:04 2009 No.2318194 File: 136 KB, 1280x800, can't start2.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2318186 Didn't work so well...

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 27 03:56:04 2009 No.2318208 >>2318194 Possibly an incorrect install, given that the html file is in gibberish.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 27 04:01:04 2009 No.2318225 >>2318208 Gotcha, it's not the same one from >>2315191 so I'll probably just re-dl.

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