Type-Moon era is finally coming to an end...

[Anonymous No.]

If the anime is half as good as the game, I think it's going to overthrow F/SN as the /jp/ insider game of choice. I wish even better games would get adapted, but if something of Uminseko's caliber gets on TV we should all have hope.

[Anonymous No.]

haha yeah right, nothing can be better than fate/stay night. get the fuck out, troll.

[Anonymous No.]

Enjoy your butchered adaptation

[Anonymous No.]

UMINSEKO

[Anonymous No.]

Lina Inverse is far more moe then Beatrice.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2309836
Since no one has seen the adaption, you can't argue that it's going to be bad. That what they call the "Devil's Proof"!

[Anonymous No.]

>>2309836
SHUT UP WE CAN STILL HAVE OUR DREAMS

[Anonymous No.]

>>2309840
She's moe'd down by Washizo's influence.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2309845
My proof is the fact that Chiaki Kon is the director

[Anonymous No.]

I don't think there wil be any better VN to anime port than FSN.

[Anonymous No.]

There's still Hollow Ataraxia...

[Anonymous No.]

Kraus can defeat goats.

Discuss.

[MolesterJim No.]

>>2309822
Do we like or hate F/SN due to it's anime adaptation?
News to me...
I only watched up to 15, then the last episode either way, after finishing UBW.

[Anonymous No.]

There is no Umineko animu.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2309862
I defeat goats too.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2309877
You'RE right.

[Anonymous No.]

Thank god I read the novel beforehand. Now I can be an elitist.

[Anonymous No.]

Well, the Type-Moon garbage is more of a cultural phenomena amongst otaku. Higurashi was, too, but the story was superior to the type-moon games in proportion to how much better type-moon art is compared to 07th Expansion art (ie, one step above 12 year old girl doodles on MySpace).

[Anonymous No.]

As long as it gets an OAV following the Stakes, I'd be happy.

Hell, even a 'Tachikoma Days' style segment at the end of each episode would be enough.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2309904
>the story was superior to the type-moon games in proportion to how much better type-moon art is compared to 07th Expansion art (ie, one step above 12 year old girl doodles on MySpace).
So true.
The most awesome thing in existance would be Umineko with art like in Saya no Uta. My brain would explode.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2309918

>Umineko with art like in Saya no Uta

I came

[Anonymous No.]

>>2309910
Oh God. Knowing that it won't happen saddens me greatly.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2309910
>Stake OAV
Do want

[Anonymous No.]

>>2309935
Should have seen me when a Stake was summoned for the first time. My first thought was: "Nasu is a genius". No joke.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2309939
That's not funny, my brother died this way. I killed him for remembering that lame joke about Nasu, that is.

[Anonymous No.]

Actually, Beato's art is pretty decent. Battler though...my god. Before he denies witches, he might want to deny his horrendous leisure sutie, funk-train bellbottoms and platofrm shoes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2309822
>F/SN
>/jp/ insider game
LOL

>F/SN
>game
ROFL

[Anonymous No.]

>>2309964
I think Beato is one of the few decently-drawn characters in the game. Not surprising. I also think Shannon looks nice.

[Anonymous No.]

When the anime comes out I hope I get to see some decent Battler x Kanon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2309964
Hey man, don't rag on the leisure suit

[Anonymous No.]

>>2310000
Shannon is manlier than Kanon in that pic.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2310032
It's because of the lard.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2310000
EPIC GET
FUCKING FUJOSHIIII I ARE RAAAAAAAAAAAGE

[Anonymous No.]

>>2310000
Yet it's strangely compelling due to the art which is better than the game's. BTW, why is Shannon all hot? Does she want Battler or Kanon? My senses tell me...Kanon :(

[Anonymous No.]

>>2310066

She just doesn't want Battler jizzing all over the furniture.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2310066
Isn't it sad, Shannon? ;_;

[Anonymous No.]

>>2310070

In that case Beato is bigger criminal. I'm sure she did more with a naked Battler than use him as a foot rest, and she DID say she did more than just humiliate Kanon...funny there's no fanart of THAT.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2310066
Everybody wants Battler.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2310086
I don't think he was furniture for very long. Pic related

[Anonymous No.]

>>2310088
Never got the translation of that one...

[Anonymous No.]

>>2309991
Hmm? What about Jessica? I thought she was one of the best drawn.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2310122
Her too. Also, Kinzo. Seriously.

[Anonymous No.]

FSN STORY IS FUCKING AWESOME /a/ /jp/ and /japan/ agreed, don't bother me about it

[Karesh !kw3EPy0aUY No.]

>>2310095
....

what the fuck?

[Anonymous No.]

Beatrice is the best-drawn, especially the portrait version. Genji I think is 2nd...many of the characters, Jessica, Ange, Shannon, etc, hover around this borad 3rd place in quality. Kinzo and Rudolph are a bit bellow them, and the others...blah.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2310180
Magic

[Anonymous of Austria No.]

>>2310182
>especially the portrait version
Well, I think the "discussion" was about Ryukishi's "art".

Nanjou looks old, like he should. They didn't even have to change anything for the anime version.

[None !Nipaa0mi0. No.]

07th Expansion > Type Moon, though I like both.

[Anonymous No.]

Beato is mai waifu.

[Anonymous No.]

When was the anime airing again?

[Anonymous No.]

>>2310000
Kanon is Shannon and Shannon is Kanon

[White Ren !YLuFFdRcFQ No.]

07th Expansion and Type-Moon aren't even in the same category of novels that they produce. How can you qualitatively compare entirely different genres?

This is just unsubtle trolling.

[Anonymous No.]

Am I cute, ~uryu?

[White Ren !YLuFFdRcFQ No.]

>>2310594
I want you to die. Horribly.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2310594
Such an irritating character. Thank you, Rosa.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2310594
Gouge the neck and kill.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2310182
How can you forget Natsuhi

[Anonymous No.]

just wondering but,

how are they gonna do the 'red text' in the anime?
she's gonna say it with a different voice?
are they gonna spell it on the screen as she talks?

[Anonymous of Austria No.]

Why did Ange do so bad on that test when she had Mammon memorize every page?
She could have made Mammon tell her the answers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2310628

Red filter.

[Anonymous No.]

Wait there's an Umineko anime coming out?

[White Ren !YLuFFdRcFQ No.]

>>2310630
Mammon and witches are delusions, and are therefore unhelpful during exams, because delusions don't know any more than you do.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2310628
It depends on how many episodes the anime will cover. If they only cover the first episode, they don't even have to touch red text.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2310619
NEVAR FORGET

[Anonymous No.]

>>2310459
Battler is Dante Alighieri.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2310635
I'm guessing it will be 24 episodes, with 6 episodes per arc. Seems a little cramped to me.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2310662
You may have been a useless rabbit only good for your sex appeal, but never-the-less, you will be missed.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2310731
Very doubtful that the anime will cover the 4th game since it was only released in December. Production for the Umineko anime started Summer last year.

[insanezero !VUNofZD8jM No.]

>Chiaki Kon
>Toshifumi Kawase

How many times must this be repeated before people understand that this anime is going to butchered as all fuck?

[White Ren !YLuFFdRcFQ No.]

>>2310808
It can't be as bad as QUALITY ROAD TREES and LOG ROLLAN.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2310824
This has nothing to do with the actual animu. These were just some QUALITY moments nothing more in the 2nd season, but if you want to see something horribly butchered, then watch the first season again

[Anonymous No.]

>>2310808
Most of guys haven't even played Higurashi, so haven't even understood how Higurashi was butchered.

[White Ren !YLuFFdRcFQ No.]

>>2310837
No, the fact that they added such useless, crappy moments is proof of how badly they butchered it when they left out so much.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2310855
You have a point

[Anonymous No.]

>>2310765
> Production for the Umineko anime started Summer last year.
Nobody has said it.
It's a misinformation from a retard.
And stupid ANN believed it.

[Anonymous No.]

I want them to do episode 4 just so it can end on the best cliffhanger.

So I can read everyone on the internet that just watched the anime cry out with thousands of WHAT THE FUCKS at the same time.

[Anonymous No.]

When are they going to make a PS2 adaption for this shit so I don't have to put up with the terrible art and lack of voices?

[Anonymous No.]

>>2310926

Well it probably won't be PS2, but more than likely 3 years from now after it's over.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2310726
I hope he isn't because Dante acknowledges his own sin of thinking that he could reach bliss with intellect only and so he has to be guided by Beatrice to heaven instead of Virgilius.....

in other words Dante gave in to the witch

[Anonymous No.]

I wonder how they can move Beatrice's dress.

[Anonymous No.]

So how is Umineko anyway? Worth to check out? How long are the episodes and more importantly to which genres does the story belong to regarding to you?

[Anonymous No.]

>>2310955
I kinda hope he is.

Layer 1 of hell - Tortured by buxom stakes for all eternity.
Layers 2+ - More of the same!

[Anonymous No.]

>>2310966

Yes.
About 8, 8, 10, and 16 hours respectively.
Mystery/Drama/Action.

Action is only introduced in episode 2 and on.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2310966
> So how is Umineko anyway? Worth to check out?
Play the game and check it yourself.
> How long are the episodes
No one knows, even the creator.
> which genres does the story belong to regarding to you?
It's impossible to say with existent genre.
Umineko calls itself "連続殺人幻想(serial murder illusion)."

[Anonymous No.]

>>2310975
And don't forget fantasy. *cackle**cackle**cackle**cackle**cackle*

[Anonymous No.]

>>2310966
the genre is pure psychological/philosophical mindfuck

[Anonymous No.]

Okay thanks

[Anonymous No.]

Beato is Maria
their laughter blended together in the end of eps 1

[Anonymous No.]

>>2311040
and Kinzo is Battler

[Anonymous No.]

FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF

[Anonymous No.]

>>2311097
I didn't expect it to end so soon

[Anonymous No.]

>>2311098
neither did I, but was that really 1/3 of EP4?, or was it more like 1/4?

[Anonymous No.]

Damn it, I know this is probably another sun and north wind strategy, but when Ange was tortured by those fucktard kids I was wishing that magic were real and the stakes would just fucking pwn everybody...

[Anonymous No.]

>>2311127

It was 31.6% of it. Not quite 1/3.

The 1/3 doesn't seem 'just slightly shorter than episode 1' when you read it, but it really is.

[None !Nipaa0mi0. No.]

>>2310765
So what? It's not as if Ryukishi07 can't simply share the outline of the script with them.

[Anonymous No.]

ITT: Overrated shit

[Anonymous No.]

>>2311396

ITP: A terrible opinion.

[Anonymous No.]

1year from now.
You guys will have wish that Umineko animu doesn't exist.
You hear it first from me.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2311511
I'm already wishing they weren't making one. ;_;

[Anonymous No.]

>>2311511
1 year from now you will be a year older.

You heard it first from me.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2311497
In your post, that's right.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2309964
Hey, cut him some slack, he's a teenager from the 80's. He's got an excuse for having a shitty fashion sense.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2311538

1/10

[Anonymous No.]

>>2311560
He should be sporting a Flock of Seagulls haircut to top it all off

[Anonymous No.]

It's cool if the anime starts to air at October 4(Sun).

[Anonymous No.]

>>2311014

[Anonymous No.]

>>2309964
Are you kidding? It's totally acceptable to wear a white, gold-studded suit jacket with a red and black undershirt and a black tie.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2309918

But umineko is good because of the bad art. Tbere's this moe moe factor.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2310966
It's a game about a guy who argues in his head with a witch about whether she exists or not. Whatever genre you decide to dub that, I leave it up to you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2310966
Mystery / suspense / comedy / ridiculous / splashes of horror here and there / romance.

[Anonymous No.]

fuck umineko that thing is shit.

witches? heh sorry no i'll go play something with porn in it

[Anonymous No.]

>>2312123
And as of episode 4, schizophrenic slice of life.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2310966
Umineko is like Chaos;Head.

But at least in Chaos;Head at least something really exist.
Umineko is a total delusion, I wont be suprised with a dream awakening ending in some white hospital room.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2311961
If you can rock it, you can rock it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2311128
Meh. This episode so far is making magic look like a sad joke. The Stakes couldn't do shit to save Agne, using this lame excuse that Agne herself needed to be prepared to shed blood...huge let-down. And Beatrice couldn't ressurrect the yellow furry, which is a good thing, but also a massive let-down with some excuse. SO basically what they're saying is that magic is just a high-resolution daydream? In that case, fuck it. Denied.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2312605
Tell me you're just playing without a translation and you didn't miss that the purpose of the ENTIRE FUCKING STORY is proving that magic isn't real, making you an utter moron.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2312605

Magic has NEVER existed in Umineko.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2312624
Say it in red.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2312631

>>>/rs/Magic_has_NEVER_existed_in_Umineko.

[Anonymous No.]

No, they did the same shit with Higurashi -- they try and build a solid anti-supernatural case, but something ends up fucking it up. In the first episode, something made out of golden butterflies rose a staff at a Natsuhi. So even if you disregard ALL of the stuff since then as being Battler's delusion and/or made up BS from Beato, there IS something supernatural going on.

This third of the episode (god that was short!) made the magic built up so much in the last several episodes look like delusion -- but, seriously, who can daydream something so solid?

[Anonymous No.]

>>2312694
Tell me you're just playing without a translation

[Anonymous No.]

>>2312694

>No, they did the same shit with Higurashi -- they try and build a solid anti-supernatural case, but something ends up fucking it up.

There was supernatural forces at work in Higurashi (Hanyuu), but the culprit and root of all the events were natural (Parasites and Takano).

[Anonymous No.]

>>2312672
Never thought of doing that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2312672

Oho, we can speak red on 4chan now. Good idea.

>>2312694

It was a delusion, JUST like the rest of that stuff.

Gee that needle sure looks solid in Onikakushi-hen, etc.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2312694
Beatrice is a fake witch, operating off of tricks and delusions, and has been all along. That should have been patently obvious from the start. If it makes you feel better, Ange does discover "true magic" at the end of Episode 4.

[Anonymous No.]

>>>/rs/Spoiler_Check

[Anonymous No.]

>>>/rs/I_DENY_WITCHES_SOMETHING_LIKE_THAT_CANT_EXIST

[Anonymous No.]

>>2312813

>>>/rs/Witches_and_magic_exists

LOL PARADOXES

[Anonymous No.]

>>>/rs/BATTLER_IS_WOE

[Anonymous No.]

>>>/rs/You_can't_directly_prove_or_disprove_magic_using_red_text

[Anonymous No.]

>>>/rs/We_are_all_witches_on_/jp/

[Anonymous No.]

>>2312855

More like
>>>/rs/_is_the_land_of_witches

[Anonymous No.]

>>>/rs/The_red_text_on_/jp/_is_a_lie

[Man-Pedo !r9.w91chTo No.]

In before epic

[Anonymous No.]

I like where this is going.

[Anonymous No.]

>>>/rs/Umineko_sucks

[Anonymous No.]

>>2312954

>>>/rs/Umineko_is_awesome

[Anonymous No.]

>>>/rs/Oh_god_what_have_I_started

[Anonymous No.]

>>2312672
>Results for "Magic has NEVER existed in Umineko.":
>...
>No results.
I remain unconvinced.

[Anonymous No.]

>>>/rs/REDTEX

[Anonymous No.]

>>>/rs/I_fucked_you're_Beato

[Anonymous No.]

If you think, after Higurashi, that the anti-magic explinatons are going to hold water in the future, you people are desperatly naive. There is DEFINATELY going to be another pro-magic argument made.

My theory, which is probably useless this early, is that Beatrice is a delusionary entity given a semi-permenant existance by Kinzo's mad devotion (using the often-repeated premise that strong feelings and belief in something has magical force), and Beatrice, in order to manifest herself permenantly, has to be believed in by the whole world (meesage in the bottle).

[None !Nipaa0mi0. No.]

>>2313873
There is a completely non-magical explanation for all the crimes. Did you forget that Beato told it to Eva-Beatrice?

[Anonymous No.]

>>2313873
At the very least, 1 of 2 'Beatrice's' must exist.

1. The person in the other mansion who Rosa accidentally killed.

2. The one writing the notes in the bottles.

That said, the whole approach to the murders is confusing. If they'd just wanted others from the 18 dead, the murderer would just kill them normally. The only reason to follow the twilights is to resurrect the witch, but then why have differing messages in the bottles if you went through all that trouble?

[None !Nipaa0mi0. No.]

>>2313914
Takano had lots of scrapbooks with different 'explanations'. Perhaps 'Beatrice' only ever expected one message to be found.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2313893
They were working together. Battler didn't hear anything. There's no proof that she said anything like that.

[None !Nipaa0mi0. No.]

>>2313933
Beato and Eva-Beatrice weren't working together. The latter was being manipulated by the former and discarded when her role was over.

Besides, Beato saw this as a game and expected Battler to win at times, which would be impossible for him to do without a non-supernatural explanation.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2313926
But there was no guarantee that the bottle would've ever have been found anyway. Certainly no guarantee could be made on WHEN it'd be found anyway.

Also, why make lots of different messages if you only expected one to be found? Why not just recycle the same one?

[Anonymous No.]

The whole magical society thing, with Beato's family in a great golden hall type of thing always seemed incredibl far-fetched when it appeared, but it does seem that at least the strong feelings = power premise holds some water. When the Stakes couldn't obey the order to kill the bullies, they tried what sounded like excuses, which made them look like fakes in the end. However, Beatrice did say that she would teach Maria how to rip and kill with magic, which is probably where she developed the creepy laugh. SO it's possible Maria had leared the ability to break and kill with magic, which, as was pointed out before, is a lot easier than making something with magic, and she ended up killing Rosa who was later ressurrected by Beatrice.

[Anonymous No.]

"That epic picture"'s author's new art.

[Anonymous No.]

Goddamn, this part is making me RAGE so hard!

[Anonymous No.]

>>2314636
are/were you bullied in school?

[Anonymous No.]

Okay, I've not read any of this thread, since I just started the first chapter.

I'm having serious suspension of disbelief problems already.

180cm is not tall.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2314650
Yeah, there was one time.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2314655
It is in Moonland.

I'm going to be annoyed if they don't properly show Battler's height in the anime.

[Anonymous of Austria No.]

>>2314636
Yes. It's all Ange's fault.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2314655
5'9" is tall for the Japanese.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2314659
>>2314665

This is the thing, it's not. The average height for japanese men has been about 5'7" or 5'8" (excuse my imperialistic tendencies) since the seventies. This is the equivalent of everyone in the west being AMAZED that someone is a whole SIX FEET TALL!

[Anonymous No.]

>>2314673
Well, it's family. Family always exaggerates.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2314661
>>2314636
Seriously, I hated the kids who didn't try in school, and made us all have to listen to lectures and retake things.

This game is getting confusing as fuck though, we now have the meta-world, the world of the incident, and the world of 1998 where apparently multiple versions of the incident have taken place in the past.

[Anonymous No.]

What enraged me about the scene wasn't the bullying, it was the brutality of being betrayed by her magic. I would have given the Stakes a pass if they would have said Ange lacked the magical power to make them materialize physically, but they said they couldn't do anything unless she herself was ready to do it, which I read as meaning: "Kill them yourself, and you can imagine we did it for you," so it's understandable that she lashed out bitterly.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2314696
Yeah it can be annoying to repeat things but I don't really mind it that much, it's their choice what they make out of their lives. However, the type of people you see in that scene, that's the kind of stupidity that makes me rage.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2314673
5'7"

[Anonymous of Austria No.]

>>2314729
Oh no they won't even let me go to the toilet and have me write this letter and humiliate me from now on every day for 5 extra lessons. I'm so emo bawwww.

Seriously, the chances are nothing would happen if she just left the classroom or even cared to open her mouth once. She had better studied and made some friends instead of spending emo time with her imaginary friends. It's like she does that so she can be hated to have an excuse to be even more emo.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2314749
Lay off man, her parents are DEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAD

[Anonymous No.]

>>>/rs/this_is_an_epic_thread

[Anonymous No.]

>>>/rs/bernkastel_is_the_true_villain

[Anonymous No.]

>>>/rs/everybody_is_a_villain

[Anonymous No.]

>>2314754
At least Batman has friends.

[Anonymous No.]

Ange needed the "guidance" of her oniichan

if you know what I mean

[Anonymous No.]

And it's funny -- everyone assumes the game-world is full of crap, being narrated by Beatrice. The magic shown to meta-Battler are just delusions, etc. But, for some strange reason, EVERYONE believes the rule of the red truth. Why? If you deny magic exists, and Beatrice will run elaborate scams to make you admit her, why is she suddenly trutworthy when she speaks in red? Her reason is: "I'm a witch so I have to take this rule seriously". That's it!!!! You all deny magic, but don't deny the red rule even though it's based on magic.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2314817
Oh shi-

[Anonymous No.]

>>2314817

Because if you don't there's no basis to go on for speculation and the mystery is unsolvable.

[Anonymous of Austria No.]

>>2314817
Battler accepted to obey to the rules. 34 would never do something like that.

[None !Nipaa0mi0. No.]

>>2314749
She was hated from the start because she was associated with Eva who was seen as someone who murdered her family. That combined with the fact that she was obviously someone unwanted as she was effectively imprisoned at the school meant that she couldn't make any friends to begin with.

[Anonymous No.]

And now we get to the basic, stupid flaw of the whole game: what's the point? if Beatrice is compelled by the rules of magic to obey the law of the red, and Battler also accepts this law, then he should have no problem accepting magic. Why does Beatrice have to frame the argument for magic with commiting closed-room murders for which there can be no human explination? Why does Beatrice make Battler close his eyes when she denies magic herself? If there's no magic, nothing will change when she denies herself, right? It seems that meta-battler has already admited magic in his heart but is just being stubborn. He resorts to flimsy, laughable arguments. There just seems to be no point to the exersize.

[None !Nipaa0mi0. No.]

>>2314791
>>>/rs/Bernkastel is a good girl

[None !Nipaa0mi0. No.]

>>2314791
>>>/rs/Bernkastel_is_a_good_girl

[Anonymous No.]

>>2314849
Fuck, I can't get COMA END out of my head

[Anonymous No.]

>>2314849
You do realize that Meta World =! real world?
The point for Meta Battler is to prove that Beato's existence is bullshit and everything that had happened was comitted by human.

otherwise, he would have to admit her existence as soon as she has shown herself before him.

You are mixing up Meta World and Real world.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2314817
That is because the red truth is part of the "gameplay" between the two characters, battler and beato.

if that rule isn't followed from the very start, what is the point of the narration then? It would be simple "there you go, I plasma nuked them. /discuss"

That is not the purpose of the storytelling of Umineko at all.

[None !Nipaa0mi0. No.]

>>2314849
Because if the red text proves to be untrustworthy, Battler can simply deny everything he sees as being a lie and the game will never finish. Beato can't win if that happens.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2314849
Sometimes I wonder if you've even read the story. You post the same stupid arguments in every thread.

[Anonymous of Austria No.]

>>2314845
It's more like Ange hates the world and everyone who lives on it.
People like rumors about Rokkenjima, but the girls at the school certainly don't hate Ange because Eva is an alleged murderer.
She just scares everybody who might attempt to approach her off with her emo weirdness, and attracts bullies.
What's worst about the fictional representation of bullying is that the bullied one never even once opens their mouth. Ange isn't as extreme as Aeka. She could be a normal girl if she wanted.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2314875
read the fucking ???? tea party of episode3.

Eva made sure Ange wouldn't be able to befriend with any people with the bodyguards. Additionally, there were these rumors and it really crippled everything when Eva was starting going bitchy with business and all.
And no, you really missed the point: Ange was acting indifferent and completely composed, hardly anything emo. The girls gossip behind her back for ages.

[Anonymous No.]

But there's NO REASON why Beato CAN'T just say: "I killed him with magic" in red, because it's another arbitrary rule. So Battler is fighting with these magical rules of sportsmanly conduct. But he's been killed and ressurrected directly several times over, how does he explain that? If meta-battler doesn't matter, if he's some kind of spirtual projection in a fantasy world -- why is the story told from his perspective? Why doesn't he admit that the fact itself he is living in a spirit world being killed and ressurrected all the time count as magic in and of itself? I just don't get what this "game" is supposed to accomplish accept gaining Battler's acceptance which appears to be very important to witches in general. But why would Battler care what's important or not to imaginary beings? Shouldn't her just walk away or simply deny the reality of the game itself?

[Anonymous No.]

>>2314881

Composed? Yeah, right. The little bitch went all RAGE on the seven sisters. I still love her though, since her character matured a lot after entering the game.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2314899
because they pulled out her hair accessory
even I raged

[Anonymous No.]

>>2314892

Beato can't say that because either 1. she can't because magic doesn't exist, or 2. she doesn't want to because it wouldn't be fun.

And again you are confusing the meta world with the 'real' world. Just because magic might exist in the meta world doesn't mean it does in the real world, which is what Battler is trying to prove.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2314892
what the hell?
Thats the whole point
she CAN'T say she killed them in red
because she DIDN'T

someone else did

[None !Nipaa0mi0. No.]

>>2314892
Beato can't say that because there is a naturalistic explanation. The red text can be used with both supernatural and naturalistic explanations. And if Battler walks away, he can't win either.

[Anonymous of Austria No.]

>>2314881
Have you ever seen her guards in the classroom? In the bushes? In the toilet?

[Anonymous No.]

>>2314899
I was talking about her initial situation just like the quote message. Fail to keep at the subject much?

besides, she bursted emotionally, but she hardly went rage on the bullies or starting going uu uu trantrum or anything.

She got completely shattered psychologically for years, so I really doubt blaming her for being "emo" is really pertinent considering how Eva just ruined everything and people getting jealous and bitchy over ridiculous rumors (suspecting a little girl for the bitch disease, among all things, duh).

[Anonymous No.]

>>2314899
I don't know, she just comes over as just a little bitch. I don't blame her for breaking the sisters, because she felt they betrayed her, but she took her little fit out on Maria, too, and then used it as an excuse to go get an emo power-up. She treats the people around her like a bitch.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2314909
Because it wasn't dscribed by Ange doesn't mean they weren't there.
It was blatantly told in the ura tea party 3, which explained why she became lonely and only afterwards, she didn't bother being social at all.

Read the fucking game.

[King of Crits !SoAoGU5XjA No.]

Internet Tough Guys vs. Internet White Knights.

ISN'T IT EXCITING.
(Both sides are faggots.)

[Anonymous No.]

>>2314922
wat lol

[Anonymous No.]

>>2314892
Battler won't accept a direct "Lol I did it with MAGIC" explanation. Beato needs to give Battler a scenario where he truly cannot prove that it could happen by human means. Beato needs Battler to accept magic in order to be truly resurrected and released from Rokkenjima.

Battler's slowly beginning to accept magic, which is why Beato's able to summon more powerful furniture, but he won't completely accept it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2314892
I think you need to reread umineko.
There is two world
1)Player world
-the place where Battler and Beato fight it out and try to make the other party submit
-there are rules to the game, like red text vs blue text
-there is also win condition and lose condition

2)Real world (get resetted everytime when Beato and Battler reset the board)
-the place where the murders happen

>Beato CAN'T just say: "I killed him with magic" in red
1)Beato didn't kill anyone with magic
2)It is done by human
3)Witches gain power by gaining people acceptance
4)They don't exist if nobody believe them


tl;dr Stop trolling and play your nasu games.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2314911
>composed
>bursted emotionally

She's suffering, JESUS CHRIST.

>>>/rs/You're_a_butthurt_little_fag

[Anonymous No.]

And the game even fucking mentioned Battler wouldn't accept a red 'I killed them with magic' BECAUSE it would make him doubt the red rule and bring the game back to square one.

Square one being 'LALALALALALA I CAN'T HEAR YOU' like he was trying to do before red text was introduced.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2314930
how about "learn to read" faggot? The troll i was answering to mentioned she was creeping everyone, because she went all emo etc.
That is however not the case as she was composed but also indifferent (both in episode 3 and 4, it is mentioned she didn't bother).

she only bursted emotionally during that scene.

GTFO

[Anonymous No.]

>>2314929

Adding on to this.

Beatrice won't be able to say "Witches did it" or even "Humans did it" in red, since neither are established as truths in this "closed box".

The point of the match is to decide which one will be the truth. So they can only work on the murders to convince the other side on which is the truth.

[Anonymous of Austria No.]

>Because it wasn't dscribed by Ange doesn't mean they weren't there.
Even IF something is described by Ange, it doesn't mean it is there.
If there were guards, they wouldn't let all the students of the class surround her and/or take her hair boggles.

She even has a roommate and plenty of time to socialize. School is a no-guards area.

>Read the fucking game.
I did, though that wasn't part of "the game".

[Anonymous No.]

>>2314939

How about stop being such a little fag and bawwing everytime someone has a different perspective on matters from you?

learn to grow up, MUCH?
and stop that. it's fucking annoying, you prick.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2314939
>both in episode 3 and 4, it is mentioned she didn't bother

Read in between the lines. Ange mentioned that herself numerous times. She's just acting like she didn't care.

[Anonymous No.]

Ep3, when Beatrice and Virgillus get into this huge magic battle. Afterwards, beatrice runs back into the tearoom going "Did you see, did you see, did you seeeeee?!?!" I believe Battler couldn't handle it and fainted.

[Anonymous No.]

You want to know what I HONESTLY think?

/jp/ really doesn't give a fuck if the anime as a whole will be good, as long as the ANSWER moments (referring to the music, not the arcs, of course) look fucking awesome and Battler's Naruhomo-pointing pose is good. Oh, and there's the whole GAME WITHIN A GAME bits, and DECLARE IT IN BLUE/RED.

I'd LIKE for it to be great, but as long as those brief bits are awesome I won't feel like I entirely wasted my time watching it.

Also, what about the novels? I mean, by the time the anime airs there will only be four, maybe five (I can't remember when the next Comiket is, exactly), so the original story won't be completely finished.....

[King of Crits !SoAoGU5XjA No.]

>>2315001
Enjoy your Second Season.

[Anonymous No.]

No character designs for Virgilia/Stakes yet. I'm sad.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2315035
Pretty obvious they will only animate the first 2arc if there is no Virgilia.

Will it be an OVA or a TV series? Doesn't really care about the animu that much, I sense a new Tsukihime in the making.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2315043

Just because there's no character designs for them yet doesn't mean they won't show up.

They'll probably do either 1-3 or 1-4.

I'd prefer 1-4 actually because the anime is going to suck either way and I want to hear everyone cry "WHAT THE FUCK" at the same time when 4 ends.

Because it has a better/worse cliffhanger ending than Ep3

[Anonymous No.]

>>2315080
Does it go into beatrice at all or is it all Ange's crap?

[Anonymous No.]

>>2315080

[Anonymous No.]

Some guys seems to have forgotten Ronove's explanation of stalemate.

And, you should speculate what Beatrice wants to do with Battler as a matter of fact.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2314929
> There is two world
Typical anti-mystery.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2315194
Refresh my memory

[Anonymous No.]

someone make a continuation thread please.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2312993
quite true

you're fucked and/because i'm beato

*cackle*