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MARISA

Gender: Feminine

Usage: Italian, Spanish, Portuguese, English

Pronounced: mah-REE-sah (Italian, Spanish), mə-RIS-ə (English) [key]
Italian, Spanish and Portuguese combination of MARIA and LUISA.

Marisa is a fucking Wop?!?!

>> No.2306696

English is on there too bub

>> No.2306698

Fuck is a wop?

>> No.2306701

What's a wop?

>> No.2306702
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>>2306696

>> No.2306704

Marisa:

Ma-ri-za

>> No.2306703

>>2306698
>>2306701
Looks like a southern european.

>> No.2306742

>>2306698
>>2306701
Underage b&

>> No.2306751

A wop is a dirty Italian.

>> No.2306757

They did say she was an ordinary western magician. Western magic came from the Middle East -be glad our beloved witch is not a sand nigger.

>> No.2306760

>>2306742
More like they don't know obscure American racist slang.

>> No.2306762

>>2306757

Her name is Marisa...not Mari-al Basheera.

>> No.2306769
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>>2306698
>>2306701
It's American slang for a person of Italian descent who has moved to America. It used to be an acronym used in New York, W.O.P, with out papers, for immigrants who spoke no English and had no identification, a group which for a period of time consisted chiefly of Italian ex-patriots looking to start a new life. It is unwise to call an Italian-American from New York who you don't know very well a wop unless you a) have a funny accent b) are very much bigger than they are or c) are wearing a police badge. Even if you're a woman. Even if they're a woman.
It's pronounced like the whop in whopper.

>> No.2306783

>>2306757
Western in style, but it was never specified if she herself was a Westerner. After all, the Hakkero is an eastern device, and Kirisame is hardly a Western name. She's obviously supposed to be the Eastern/Western blend that's often mentioned by ZUN.

>> No.2306861

>>2306769
Wrong. It was brought over from Italy originating in the word "guappo" which meant the person was a cocky asshole pretty much. Then got Americanized into wop to denote any Italian in a derogatory way.

>> No.2306872

>>2306861
It's American slang, so the American way is correct. With Out Papers.

>> No.2306879

This thread's premise was faulty from the start. Touhous don't have nationalities.

>> No.2306885

>>2306783
I hadn't thought of that, but that's actually pretty sensible and plausible.

>> No.2306913

>>2306872
Sigh. It is not "without papers" because the term was widely used before 1910; in which no immigrant needed papers to enter the US. Passports and visas came in 1921. Wop meaning "without papers" is a backronym in that it some idiot applied it after the term was already popular.

>> No.2306919

>>2306783
eurasians cannot have blond hair due to the gene being recessive, unless both parents are carriers

>> No.2306965

>>2306919
Not a literal Eastern/Western genetic crossing, silly! I just think she's supposed to represent the aspect of Touhou that combines both Eastern styles and Western styles.

Disregarding the power of genetics and rules of heredity, I always imagined Marisa to structurally look asian, but otherwise have Western features.

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>>2306702

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Mario is a wop.

>> No.2309321

>>2306965
>Marisa
>Asian
No

>> No.2309328

>>2306919

Well, clearly that destroys that theory as Touhou goes by the hard and fast rule that while Youkai are allowed to have unrealistic hair colors, humans are not.

HEY GUYS I HEARD YOU LIKE AKYU AND SANAE AM I RIGHT?

>> No.2309323

derogatory for "Italian," 1912, Amer.Eng. slang, apparently from southern It. dialect guappo "dandy, dude, stud," a greeting among male Neapolitans, said to be from Sp. guapo "bold, dandy," which is from L. vappa "sour wine," also "worthless fellow;" related to vapidus (see vapid).

>> No.2309327

>>2306683

Yup. And Remilia is Romanian, Sakuya is a brit (Jack the Ripper) and Patchouli is French or something.

>> No.2309335

Marisa Kirisame.

Kirisame.

She's got some asian in her, maybe some of her ancestors had the yellow fever?

>> No.2309338

>>2309328
Akyu is technically immortal, Sanae is a descendant of a god.

>> No.2309343

>>2309328

Sanae pretty much destroys any hair-color-based argument by herself. She's not just supposed to be a human - she's a human from "our" world. And her hair is bright green.

(Especially funny in that on Sanae/Alice doujin where Sanae is shocked by Alice's blond hair. What the fuck?)

>> No.2309345

>>2309335
Actually, even marisa is written in kanji, like the Kanji for Maria.

>> No.2309348

>>2309335
She is adopted.

>> No.2309349

東方厨は逝ってヨシ
fuck tohochu

>> No.2309350

>>2309343
>From our world
That makes even more sense, since here we can color our hair, and not in Gensokyo.

>> No.2309355

>>2309350

They can color their hair in Gensokyo, they're not absurdly backwards. People have been coloring hair for hundreds of years.

It's still not an excuse for Sanae though.

I suspect ZUN is just relying on the rule of anime hair colors here.

>> No.2309360

>>2309355
>Gensokyo
>they're not absurdly backwards.

Isn't Gensokyo's technology pretty much stuck in the feudal Japan era, with some individual gadgets snuck in through the border being the only exceptions?

>> No.2309361

>>2309355
>People have been coloring hair for hundreds of years
Not green

>> No.2309369

Also, Marisa is more Spanish than Italian, that making it more Arabian than Italian, most Spanish names are based on arabian names since their invasions.

>> No.2309373

>>2306919
Reimu had purple hair.
Your whole argument is shit.

>> No.2309375 [DELETED] 

I still like the tangents they do like in the OP but other than that, it's not brought anything new to the table for a long time. It's been the same sort of humor for over a thousand comics now, I'd say it started to degrade seriously after the class swap.

>> No.2309396

>>2309360
Surely they had nuclear power back in feudal Japan.

>> No.2309400

I've checked over 40 sites.

No Patchouli, Remilia or Flandre. I expected European origin.

I guess ZUN just pulls things out of his ass sometimes.

>> No.2309409

>>2309396
You sure are stupid

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>>2306769
Fixed for actual /jp/ relevance.

>> No.2309414

>>2309400

>I guess ZUN just pulls things out of his ass more often than not.

Fixed. On the rare occasion he doesn't, it's a convoluted version of some folklore, usually Japanese or European.

>> No.2309415

>>2309400
Flandre is a city from some country of europe.

>> No.2309418

>>2309400
Patchouli is a plant, Flandre is a part of Belgium, and Remillia is probably a corruption of Emillia.

>> No.2309426

>>2309400
Check the wiki article for each character

>> No.2309428

>>2309410

Why no /h/ or /d/?

>> No.2309429

>>2309418
Patchouli is what hippies use to cover up that they don't bathe.

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>>2309327

>Sakuya is a brit (Jack the Ripper)

Actually, that's an interesting idea... Not Sakuya, but has there ever been any serious theory the Ripper may have been a woman?
Think about it.

All witness reports of a male suspect are conflicting - the closest thing to a consistent image is the "sailor" theory.
All victims were 19th century prostitutes, and so would've been used to an environment where not a lot of men were involved outside the line of work. A woman would perhaps not have been considered as suspicious by her victims.
The Ripper was never caught in the act (although once disturbed), and so would've been likely to be previously familiar with the environment. The final victim was murdered indoors; while speculation, she may have known and trusted the killer.
Slitting the throat is a way of killing that is not very dependent on physical strength, but rather requires a lot of subtlety and deception. It is also quick, allowing the killer plenty of time to take trophies or carry out mutilation.

Or whatever. Maids with knives.

>> No.2309445

>>2309409
Can you substantiate that, or are you just one of those people who insult others when they have nothing valid to say?

>> No.2309462

>>2309445
No, it's the fact that you don't understand how Gensokyo works at all

>> No.2309469

>>2309462
And that would be because?

>> No.2309493

>>2309469
Gensokyo IS stuck on a feudal age, but it's still somehow connected to the human world.
Now about the nuclear power, which is the power of the Yataragasu, is just ZUN's way to show how ignorant is Gensokyo about the human world, I doubt Kanako actually knows what it is, the Kappas might know.
So Gensokyo is mixed with feudal and prensent world.

>> No.2309529

>>2309493
And just how can Kanako NOT know when she left our world just a few years ago?

>> No.2309542

>>2309529
She's a god
They're quite ignorant

>> No.2309553

>>2309493
>>2309529
>>2309542

Read more of the backstory. Gensokyo overall has a late-1800s-pre-industrial-revolution level of technology (similar to what Japan had around the time Gensokyo was closed off). Kanako knows reasonably well what fission is, and what she doesn't know the Kappa do know, so she doesn't have to worry too much about specifics.

The Kappa are ahead of everyone else in Gensokyo technologically and Kanako is basically playing a big game of Civilization and trying to leapfrog a whole bunch of technologies by cheating.

>> No.2309563

>>2309553
>Kanako knows reasonably well what fission is
I don't think she does
Gods are lazy fucks with slaves to gather their faith

>> No.2309571

>>2309542
Well, it's a valid, althought pretty contrived, explanation, you can stick to it if you want. I'll stick to what I read in the game dialogue.

"We've been inspecting the kappa's industrial facilities.
They're pretty backwards compared to the outside world.

Kanako said that if they could find a new energy source, it would create a revolution.

Kanako loves technological revolutions."

Note that "backwards compared to the outside world" doesn't imply feudal. In fact, the sole fact they have factories means they're long past the feudal period.

>> No.2309575

>>2309563

Suwako: We've been inspecting the kappa's industrial facilities.
They're pretty backwards compared to the outside world.

Kanako said that if they could find a new energy source, it would create a revolution.

Kanako loves technological revolutions.

Yukari : So, you sent the yatagarasu underground in order to obtain atomic energy?

Suwako: I told her "wouldn't nuclear power be dangerous for the kappa?", but still....

(I suspect that Suwako knows more about nuclear power than Kanako does, and Kanako is just being Kanako.)

>> No.2309578

>>2309553
>>2309542
>>2309529
>>2309493
You guys still doesn't realized that touhou story is shit?
Oh wow...

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>>2309571
>>2309575

Suwakomind.

>> No.2309590

>>2309571
But only the kappa.
And the fact that Kanako loves technology doesn't mean she understands it.
And I only read the canon dialogs too.

>> No.2309599

>>2309578
Get out

>> No.2309618

>>2309599
>Touhou is first shmup,also, I am a touhou fanboy.
fix'd

>> No.2309621

>>2309618
reported

>> No.2309648

>>2309621
>Touhou is my first shmup,also, I am a touhou fanboy.
fix'd again.
Sorry, I forgot the "my".

>> No.2309657

>>2309648
reported for inexperienced troll

>> No.2309662

>>2309590
Well, much of the other inhabitants are magical beings and don't actually need the technology to have a standard of living close to the outside world.

>>2309621
Should be "ignored", you know.

>> No.2309673

Green hair -> granddaughter of a god...
The Scarlets -> are from France or from Germany (Belgium is not that old) and their 500years are added.
Sakuya is not Sakuya, it is just a given name by Remilia (Belmont or JoJo prject or whatever), and her origin is fucking unknown, and that makes her an awesome character...

ALSO: if Sanae's hair would be black, then she would be just player 2 Reimu. If her hair would be blond, then it would be like inverting colors. White -> old. ALSO FROGS ARE GREEN!

>> No.2309676

>>2309662
Yeah but magic is another thing, we know there is, but we don't actually know how they use it for their everyday life.
We couldn't even take a good look at how Koumakan looks inside.

>> No.2309690

>>2309676

see http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/Magitek

>> No.2309692

>>2309690
>tvtropes

>> No.2309695

>>2309673

"Belmont" is also a manufacturer of surgical lightning equipment.

No, there is no real evidence Sakuya and Eirin are related.

>> No.2309703

>>2309662
Not a troll, faggot.
You guys suck too much the cock of Zun.
There are much better shmups(with better story).

>> No.2309706

>>2309690
I first thought of Magitek armor as in FFVI

>> No.2309715

>>2309703
> Not a troll
right

>> No.2309720

>>2309715
Prove me wrong.

>> No.2309721

>>2309703

And you came to /jp/ - Touhou/MM/Idolm@ster General to tell us this?

Get the fuck out of here, troll.

>> No.2309730

>>2309720

Whatever happened to the autoban for "prove me wrong"?

>> No.2309735

>>2309720
The way you write is similar to a child who just learned how swear, commonly seen in troll threads.
Second, you don't even know about touhou plot since you hate it irrationally.

>> No.2309742

>>2309735

Stop feeding it.

>> No.2309747

>>2309721
Pot, kettle, etc.

Whatever happened to not responding to troll at all, faggots?

>> No.2309749

>>2309721
/jp/ was suposed to be Japan/General.
Not just fucking touhou, you fucking retarded.

>> No.2309752

>>2309742
I don't have anything else to do right now

>> No.2309758

>>2309747
>>2309749

Cool story. Good thing we have people who give two shits about your opinion, RIGHT /JP/?

...thought not. 2/10. Go back to /b/. Your trolling is bad, and you should feel bad.

>> No.2309777

>>2309673
Oh and I forgot Marisa...
She is just a fucking witch from the western word.
Since the japanese always envied the western cultures for having these witches, riding a broom, but because it is in the game, instead of drawing an old hag witch ZUN draw a bitch.
With blond hair that resembles for the west, but with a japanese lastname Kirisame, because it is a japanese game after all, or just because ZUN.
The miko x witch x maid combination was awesome, and he managed to write the personalities of Reimu and Marisa, so that they can stay in the game, but Sakuya was just too awesome for this game...

ALSO: miko x witch x miko combination isn't good enough, it's like a failure of ZUN.
What I want to say with this, is that you shouldn't drink too much constantly because you will just and up like ZUN!

>> No.2309785

>you don't even know about touhou plot since you hate it irrationally.
What plot?
The plot made by Zun or, the plot made by fans or so called "Print Works"?

>> No.2309838

Marisa is a fucking Wop?
The answer is NO!

>> No.2309875

You guys need to worry less about the Touhou plot.
Just play the fucking touhou games, talk about gameplay.

Also, why talk about the touhou plot if there is better plots?
Because it's fucking overrated.

>> No.2309994

>>2309439
I think it's more likely that Sakuya was a descendant of Helsing or something. PMiSS mentioned she might have been a vampire hunter and I don't believe the theory that she's Lunarian.

As for Marisa I think there some contention about whether her name is supposed to be Japanese or not. It's written in kanji rather than katakana, but then again a lot of minor characters have their names in katakana to make them sound less important... so whatever.

>> No.2310669

>>2309410
But now /gif/ it doesn't rotate.

>> No.2310685

>>2309428
/d/ is Mario and Birdo. The missing /h/ is a crime, though.

>> No.2310690

Marisa is more Spanish/Portuguese than Italian.

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