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23053474 No.23053474 [Reply] [Original]

How come Touhou have so few good doujins? Most of the shit is non-h, poorly drawn or both.

>> No.23053496

>>23053474

How do you know what you said is true

>> No.23053512

>>23053496
Experience. For over 10 years I have not one in my favorites

>> No.23053524

Please stay in your /v/ thread.

>> No.23053526

>>23053512

Is this experience based on just browsing what gets scanned and translated online or do you actually visit the events each year and or live in Japan?

>> No.23053541

>>23053526
Well the best stuff does get scanned so...

>> No.23053549

Non-H is the good stuff

>> No.23053564

>>23053474
Because your abhorrent taste leaves you blind towards them.

>> No.23053610

>>23053474
>Most of the shit is non-h, poorly drawn or both
Oh, like Touhou in general.

>> No.23053669

>Sakuyafag
>shit taste
Seem legit.

>> No.23053672
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23053672

>>23053474
I'd say you have terrible taste.

>> No.23054320

>>23053541

What a bullshit statement

You can't even know what the best stuff is if you rely on scanned works since you miss out on probably +90% of works released at Comiket. When you look at official numbers of new works released and the number of works that get scanned the ratio is pitifully low.

>> No.23054325

>>23053669
Don't misuse the quoting function, ``kudasai''.

>> No.23054529

>>23054320
And that's fine since good stuff does get scanned. The 90% is of poor or mediocre quality while 10% has the best shit

>> No.23054574

>>23054529
retard

>> No.23054599

>>23054574
Faggot

>> No.23054604

>>23053474
>Most of the shit is non-h
but that's the good part

>> No.23054701

>>23054529

>i havent seen nor read nor even know about this massive amount of content but i definitely know its shit because some random internet uploaders judgement on what content is good enough to be uploaded surely reflects my tastes and the quality of all released content

plain wrong

>> No.23054805

>>23054701
Plain right. There is an incentive to upload the good stuff, therefore the best stuff gets scanned. Its the same with scanlation, the best stuff gets translated.
>definitely know its shit because some random internet uploaders judgement on what content is good enough to be uploaded surely reflects my tastes and the quality of all released content
Art is objective.

>> No.23054986

>>23053512
How about Michiking stuff? That has good Sakuya.

>> No.23055064

>>23054986
All shota and no netorare.

>> No.23055085

>>23053672
Orin with a huge futa cock is so damn good.

>> No.23055436

>>23055064
How's that HRT treating you?

>> No.23055579

>>23055436
Get out

>> No.23055589

>>23055085

Very respectable opinion

Even better when Ran is ramming her futa cock inside Orin

>> No.23055665

Why do people assume non-H is automatically bad? You are a secondary or, more likely, a tertiary if you only care about a series for its porn.

>> No.23055731

>>23055665
Agreed. Non-H is the reason to be into Touhou in the first place. If all you want is titillation there are better franchises aimed at that. But if you want to jack off not only your dick but also your heart, non-H is essential.

>> No.23055891
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23055891

>>23055731
You don’t read Non-H to see 2hus suffering?

>> No.23056148

>>23054986
>Michiking
Literally too big to self insert and too adult to even begin to believe a child micropenis could give any kind of pleasure to a woman, good art shit fetish, even worse writing.

>> No.23056202
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23056202

>>23055891
I dunno about everyone else but depressed 2hus are what I identify with

>> No.23056296

>>23055665
>Why do people assume non-H is automatically bad?
I legitimately don't understand the point of fanfiction nor the people who consume it.

>> No.23056425

>>23056202
maybe you shouldnt done that transition surgery

>> No.23056570

>>23056296
>implying H isn't fanfiction

>> No.23056653

>>23056296
90% of Touhou is fanfiction, so much so that it warped the perception of a nondescript wolf tengu mid-boss into whatever that moeblob awoo garbage the fandom spat out.

>> No.23056662

>>23056296
Fanfiction isn't "real," but fiction isn't real either, and people don't seem to have difficulty understanding why people would enjoy fiction even though it isn't real.

>> No.23056775

>>23053669
>>23054701
>>23056570
Who are you quoting?

>> No.23057221

kuso thread

>> No.23057224

>>23056653
Not really. You can ignore Momiji's fan characterization; ZUN does.

>> No.23057333

>>23056775
Your mom

>> No.23057379
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23057379

using porn to justify characters is shit. look at fate and tell me the characters in it are nothing more than just lifeless husks with big tits that act robotic and shit. you can jack off to it but theres no character in it

>> No.23057928

kuso thread
faggot OP

>> No.23059553

>>23057379
2hu isn't any different though.

>> No.23059959

>>23054805
>Art is objective
No it isn't! Even if you think of yourself as some galaxy brain that understands the singular truth of each piece, the clear reality is that everyone else perceives it slightly differently. From this they will come to their own conclusion of what's worth scanning. So your ridiculous logic of "people upload good stuff so all good stuff is scanned" falls right on its ass, you're conflating two different senses of good into one.

>> No.23060088

>>23059553
Please have at least a basic understanding of the subject you're shitposting about before making an ass out of yourself

>> No.23060191

>>23060088
This is your brain on fanworks. Reimu in the games has no personality and all of the 2hus traits come from porn.

>> No.23060272

>>23060191
>>>/v/

>> No.23060278

>>23060191
Read the literature, tertiary.

>> No.23060322

>>23060278
What literature? You mean the Patchoulis red rocket or wacky adventures of three fairies nobody gives a shit about?

>> No.23064583

>>23060322
So touhou characters have no personality because you don't like the official books, alright then

>> No.23065224 [DELETED] 

>>23053474
because of you

>> No.23066782

>>23053474
>Most of the shit is non-h
I fail to see the problem.

>> No.23067680
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23067680

>>23064583
Official books don't give them any. Now there could be some drama CDs that I don't know about but manga itself is devoid of character. The cast of characters is way too big and screentime for each one is miniscule, therefore even the most popular 2hus get zero character development.

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23067722

>>23067680
I'll bite. You really say that as if touhou characters with complex personalities and/or character development don't exist at all. Well, here you go, pic related is a prime example of who you're looking for; and she has far less screen time than the main girls too.

>> No.23067882

>>23067722
Then you have Momiji, Koakuma, Tojiko, Eternity Larva, Yoshika, Minoriko, Yatsuwhoshi, Yamame, Letty, Wakasagihime, Seiran, Eika, Sariel, Orange, Yumeko, Shou, Daiyousei, Wriggle, Ringo, and so on.
Where are their canonical character arcs that make them compelling and give a reason why we should care about them? You’re insinuating ZUN is some sort of master of literature that can perfectly craft every individual character when in reality most Touhou characters are just created to be filler since he needs 6-7 characters in every single game. Even the characters that have characterization aren’t even written that well. Are you implying Reisen is so well-written and has so much depth that she rivals characters like Guts or Griffith? Does she have layers of enigmatic, cold and calculating fear much like Johan Liebert? Uncle Iroh’s purity and wisdom. Shinji’s mental turmoil. Edward Elric’s growth throughout his series.
Touhou is shallow at best in terms of telling a compelling story with “complex” characters. The only problem is getting rid of that inherent natural otaku bias because that newest youkai girl looks cute to you.

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23067924

>>23059553
2hu is the same shit but the main premise isnt porn. there isnt any porn basis on ZUN when he makes someone like keiki or urumi, yet something like ishtar is clearly seen with porn intention

>> No.23067938

>>23067882
Dunno why are you pretending that Touhou is a shonen or heavy story anything. It's a videogame series with SoL additional material. Do you also complain that Ryu or Sol also stay same after all these years.

>> No.23067966

>>23067938
Street Fighter and Guilty Gear don't have any official ongoing literature unlike Touhou. Futhermore, stuff like CoLA, SSiB, WaHH, etc. are lackluster at best in comparison to any other piece of character-driven manga from people like Inio Asano.

>> No.23067972

>>23067882
there are characters that server major and minor purposes in anything

>> No.23067990

>>23067966
They still have manga, drama CDs and another stuff. Again, dunno why are you pretending that Touhou is some heavy character-driven story when it is not.

>> No.23068021

>>23067990
then you disagree with this?
>>23067722

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23068034

>>23059553
It's common knowledge 2hu was initially an eroge, right?

>> No.23068334

>>23067924
That's irrelevant. Both franchises leave the character development to small circles instead of tackling it themselves. Fate does it through porn, Touhou does it through non-h but the method is the same.

>> No.23069006

>>23068334
>Both franchises leave the character development to small circles instead of tackling it themselves
Read the VN, anon.

>> No.23069027

>>23069006
Anon please, that only applies to the cast of FSN.

>> No.23069082

>>23069027
No, not really. You should try actually reading FGO's story sometime if you really want to insist on having an opinion on it.

>> No.23070411

>>23067680
Gotta hand it to ZUN for managing to write 50 chapters of manga about Kasen and a book about Rinnosuke without establishing any form of personality for them.

>> No.23070533

Surprisingly decent thread, I love Touhou but it's good to be able to recognize its flaws and shortcomings.

>> No.23070626

>>23068034
nice b8 m8

>> No.23073480

>>23068021
I don't see how that statement contradicts the other.
Touhou doesn't focus on super deep character personalities and development all that much, and Reisen is just the best character you're gonna get on that front. Not the only one, mind you.

>> No.23073505

>>23055064
>NTRfag
>Shit taste
Pottery

>> No.23081618

>>23073505
whomst quoteth?

>> No.23082586

>>23070533
ZUN is a hack that rips off only japan shit from 80's he was consuming as a kid and touhou dont deserves its success

>> No.23082595

>>23053474
>Most of the shit is non-h, poorly drawn or both.
Just go to reitaisai you dipshit. I go each year, it's not that hard.

>> No.23082785

>>23056296
As long as the story is good and the core of the characters aren't too messed up then what's the problem with enjoying it?

>> No.23083942

>>23053672
Orin is looking pretty Getter Robo there. Must be because of all the radiation she's getting from hanging out with Okuu.

>> No.23083984

>>23053610
More like doujin in general.

>> No.23084525

>>23082586
Dumb ESL subhuman

>> No.23085105
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23085105

>>23068334
>through porn
>through non-h
>is the same
Did you just hex me? My mind kind of went blank for a moment trying to process your post.

>> No.23085297

real question how do we stop sakuya being such a big whore

>> No.23085362

>>23085297
Why contain it?

>> No.23085418

>>23085297
Become the male she seeks.

>> No.23089824 [DELETED] 

>>23053474
big

>> No.23089847

what about itou life?

>> No.23094625 [DELETED] 

>>23053512
Experience?

>> No.23094720

>>23055085
All 2hus with huge futa cocks are good, baka.

>> No.23096952 [DELETED] 

>>23053474
you're poorly drawn

>> No.23097535 [DELETED] 

>>23053474
they suck

>> No.23097730

>>23053474
The things you call good are not actually good and the things you don't appreciate and what should be appreciated. You're the wrongest man on /jp/.

>> No.23097783

>>23089847
His art is too bland, just black and white.

>> No.23100444

>>23053474
Having bad taste means only people with bad taste like you will make doujins that you are interested in.

>> No.23100620

>>23100444
>>23097730
You got it wrong, I actually like the one I posted in the OP very much.

>> No.23100658
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23100658

Theres too much futa out there, or ugly bastard or tags that most people despise. Its just the thing with japs: Shit taste

also they go to other games and shit and dont do 2hu anymore: thats life

>> No.23100688

>>23053474
Cronic masturbater syndrome. You want to see nothing but the same shit, so you get mediocre stuff from people who decide to merge 100 layers to the same page.

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>>23100658
>Theres too much futa out there
And that's a good thing!

>> No.23100945

>>23100620
But it's not good?

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23100974

>>23053474
>chin
mein nigga

>> No.23101099

>>23100725
futa sucks mainly unless you do it right

>> No.23101158

>>23101099
I'd like to ask you what futa done right is in your opinion, but I'm quite sure you're going to post a wrong opinion.

>> No.23101168

>>23101158
there was just one good one with itou with sanae and reimu fucking

>> No.23101185

>>23101168
>futa on female
>switches dom/sub
It's okay, but there are better doujins out there.
Shian's futa on futa doujins are amazing and Keta is probably the one with the best futa on female doujins.

>> No.23102404

>>23101185
i still just like vanilla lovey dovey shit

>> No.23111795 [DELETED] 

>>23053524
Rude

>> No.23116186 [DELETED] 

>>23053474

>> No.23127054 [DELETED] 

>>23053474

>> No.23127575
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>>23053474
For me. The H stuff peaks when its nothing except pure vanilla (and not shota shit).

>> No.23132241 [DELETED] 

>>23053474
don't know

>> No.23132260

>>23055064
>no NTR
yup this is all we needed to hear. You might just have a very minor case of serious brain damage.

>> No.23132358

>>23055436
>>23073505
>>23132260
It's not nice to bully the mentally retarded

>> No.23134334 [DELETED] 

>>23053524
no

>> No.23136956 [DELETED] 

>>23053474

>> No.23143851

>>23053474
>Most of the shit is non-h
And that is bad because...

>> No.23147467

Yukiusagi is pretty good imo

>> No.23149919

>>23054986
>Michkingking
>All shota stuff
I love the art. I ove the porn. But I can't yank it to shota or self-insert.

>> No.23150090

>>23089847
Too soft. I wish I could rub my favourite gardener's belly in 'her' works forever

>> No.23152609

Damn, even among jaypee this thread somehow manages to be the most autistic of them all.

>> No.23158898

>>23149919
Do youre parents know your gay anon?

>> No.23166255 [DELETED] 

>>23053474

>> No.23167865

Chin's art is very erotic though

>> No.23169252 [DELETED] 

>>23053474

>> No.23171377 [DELETED] 

>>23053474
you're poorly drawn

>> No.23173001 [DELETED] 

>>23053474
you tell me

>> No.23173425

Built for fat old men.

>> No.23177128

>>23173425
Fat young men are fine too.

>> No.23177456

>>23173425
>>23177128
You two are pretty alright.

>> No.23179635

>>23177128
Don't forget ominous delinquents.

>> No.23180227

>>23173425
>>23177128
>>23177456
t. fatasses

>> No.23183570 [DELETED] 

>>23053474
i don't know

>> No.23186831

>>23180227
That's like saying people who like bestiality are dogs and horses, brainlet.

>> No.23187196

>>23186831
People who like bestiality are dogs.

>> No.23187315
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23187315

>>23180227
There is nothing wrong with what was said. Touhous belong to men whether they are young or old, fate or muscle bound, faceless or faced. As long as they're not shota everything is good in the hood.

>> No.23187480

>>23187315
To me only, the rest of you cucks will sit on the sidelines.

>> No.23190472

>>23187480
To you only what?

>> No.23195353 [DELETED] 

>>23053474

>> No.23195704

>>23186831
people who like bestiality wish they were dogs and horses or they are simply cucks.

>> No.23195987

>>23195704
You don't wish to be an insatiable sex god ojisan?

>> No.23195999

>>23186831
People who like beastiality are mentally inept.
Source: furries, /mlp/
It’s all there.

>> No.23196573

>>23195987
No, I want to be an insatiable sex futa

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>>23187315
>As long as they're not shota
Yuri is also unacceptable.

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>>23196844
>Sukebe series
Bro. I'm so fucking diamonds right now. Bless this artist and I hope they continue to make more.

>> No.23199375 [DELETED] 

>>23053474

>> No.23203046 [DELETED] 

>>23053474

>> No.23207642 [DELETED] 

>>23053474

>> No.23210690 [DELETED] 

>>23053474
you're poorly drawn

>> No.23212631 [DELETED] 

>>23053474
boomers

>> No.23214731 [DELETED] 

who cares i fap

>> No.23216897 [DELETED] 

>>23053474

>> No.23216920
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23216920

But why?

>> No.23220218

>>23216920
idolfags

>> No.23221022

>>23216920
It is the easiest way to bury other threads, unfortunately.

>> No.23224701

What are sakuya and that old man doing?

>> No.23224709

>>23224701
Engaging in trade

>> No.23228182 [DELETED] 

>>23224701
Talking.

>> No.23229156

>>23224701
Talking?

>> No.23230117

>>23224709
W-what type of trade?
>>23229156
Are they breathing too?

>> No.23235658

>>23230117
Another boring trade. You need to breathe to live and air to speak.
It’s another boring toilet paper trade. That thing became a currency recently.

>> No.23238127

>>23235658
Oh I thought they were going to have sex in exchange for goods and services.

>> No.23241068 [DELETED] 

>>23053474

>> No.23245003 [DELETED] 

nice douhins

>> No.23248733 [DELETED] 

>>23053474
you're poor

>> No.23248795

>>23238127
Actually, they're going to have sex because Sakuya is a slut and her shota boyfriend's dick is too tiny.

>> No.23253319

>>23248795
>shota boyfriend
He gets what is going to happen to Sakuya and Sakuya deserves it for picking shota.

>> No.23254091

>>23248795
False, and /ss/ is trash.

>> No.23258206 [DELETED] 

>>23053524
Never

>> No.23264450
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23264450

>>23254091
What part of it is false? Sakuya being a slut or her faggy boyfriend having a tiny dick that can't satisfy her?
>/ss/ is trash
That's the point of the doujin, you dope.

>> No.23264576

>>23264450
Too bad I didn’t read that doujin you dope.

>> No.23269996

>>23254091
Imagine being this much of a pleb.

>> No.23270079

>>23053474
It has a fuck ton, just not a lot of them are scanned in.

>> No.23277373

>>23270079
Why is that? I get small doujin circle works from unknown 2hu themed conventions aren't scanned, but nowadays we rarely get good stuff even from Reitaisai.

>> No.23277578

>>23277373
Oldfags leaving, no new blood. Scanning culture is dead. Some people moved on gachasluts etc etc.

>> No.23278881 [DELETED] 

>>23053474
you're poor

>> No.23278898

>>23278881
For the love of god let this thread die already.

>> No.23279737

>>23278898
Now you know why zero post threads last so fucking long.

>> No.23280893 [DELETED] 

>>23053474
low

>> No.23282355

>>23277578
>Scanning culture is dead
This. Scanning community is dead and fakku killed it along with the translation community.

>> No.23282919

>>23282355
Fakku, loathsome as they are, doesn't directly host doujinshi works that could be technically infringing on copyright (KC, F/GO, 2hu, im@s). This is probably because the mutual understanding between doujin artists and copyright holders carries much less weight in Western markets. At most they'll release it at conventions in printed form as per the Japanese norm, like they did with Michiking's 2hu doujin.

While they are no doubt a secondary factor here, I think they are only a primary factor for licensed, original publications.

I really think it is just >>23277578 , and I can say as someone who's scanned stuff before, and am sitting on stuff that I bought to scan. At least in my case, it is as simple as having my scanning workflow disrupted after graduating and moving out on my own, and the BS of worklife really killing my passion. I think I'll just have to do a bit each day if I expect to get back into it, unlike where I would usually finishing debinding/scanning/cropping/cleaning something over a day or two.

Korean and Chinese groups are still pretty active in 2hu scanlation, so I think it is just a matter of collective fucks given towards certain content being represented in one's native language.

>> No.23285587 [DELETED] 

>>23053474
magic

>> No.23286872 [DELETED] 

>>23053474

>> No.23288559 [DELETED] 

>>23053474
booo

>> No.23295564

what you mean there are millions

>> No.23298933

bump

>> No.23307304

>>23053474
https://exhentai.org/g/889195/3d19f04344/
This one is pretty good, I blew my load to this several times already

>> No.23311214 [DELETED] 

>>23053474
lazy

>> No.23320383 [DELETED] 

>>23053474

>> No.23321499

>>23295564
Source?

>> No.23332018

>>23053474
Says you, faggot

>> No.23346248

>>23336819
Proofs?

>> No.23364857 [DELETED] 

they ugly

>> No.23375530

Can someone figure out who’s necrobumping the entire board every other day and proceed to beat the life out of him please thank you.
Make sure his fingers don’t work anymore.

>> No.23378267

>>23375530
My guess it's that Hololive general. No other general is that fast, not even AKB. They are literally making thread with 3000 posts every day somehow.

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>>23053474
>non-h
What's the problem here?

>> No.23381066

I need more Obyaa deep throat doujinshi.

>> No.23381150

>>23380665
He’s a dickbrain.
He cannot remove his hand from his dick and is bored if ge doesn’t see a drawing of a penis on a screen or piece of paper.

>> No.23411833

>>23380665
Yurishit is the problem
>>23397386
Gay who cares about how the men look
>>23407976
Double gay for both homo and yurishit

>> No.23413955

>>23413923
Remove the 'fat' part and you'll have the mindset of the average /fit/ anon.

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>>23053474
All the NTR ones are pretty good

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