/tmg/ - Type-Moon General

[Anonymous No.]

Discussion specifically regarding all forgotten things by Kinoko Nasu / TYPE-MOON.

Download Links:
>Complete TYPE-MOON PC Game Collection in Japanese
https://mega.nz/#F!BA4yHYoT!NwGVKj4q9Z1vnpKlYY-4UQ

>Kara no Kyoukai the Garden of sinners
Kara no Kyoukai novel (Japanese)
https://itazuraneko.neocities.org/shousetu/b/%E5%A5%88%E9%A0%88%E3%81%8D%E3%81%AE%E3%81%93_%E7%A9%BA%E3%81%AE%E5%A2%83%E7%95%8C/index.html
English translations by cokesakto
https://emptyboundaries.wordpress.com/2011/07/25/kara-no-kyokai-translations-2/
Kara no Kyoukai movie series
https://nyaa.si/view/264295

>Tsukihime
Tsukihime
https://mega.nz/#!6TBSSTbR!4O6JYv1dyyRw7GQeHJ4NIUYUTQ--tuy9H8s69HgL5lY
Tsukihime PLUS-DISC
https://nyaa.si/view/453758
Tsukihime Kagetsu Tohya
https://sukebei.nyaa.si/view/2502321
Tsukihime manga
https://mega.nz/#F!dRwwAZrT!uxmDDlwDTu3bgo9QIKgSrQ

>Melty Blood
MELTY BLOOD PC Collection (updated 2018-05-30)
https://nyaa.si/view/1042489
MBAACC - Community Edition
https://mega.nz/#!6FUx2C6a!L2AxbiQzPHtgRI3YPHv4NZfi2EYS9RMeNHoSp6pAcFw
Melty Blood Manga (The first part, spanning volumes 1-6, follows the original Melty Blood storyline. "2nd ACT" spans volumes 7-9. Melty Blood X is based on MELTY BLOOD Drama CD: Rojiura Pyramid Night)
https://mega.nz/#F!syICRSJI!TeAS9ZVFSDQigguqxn_MwA
Melty Blood - Back Alley Alliance Nightmare Manga
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/16jgRv-WneCDBF324U_MFsuguPFTt2J0S

>Fate
Fate/stay night [Réalta Nua]
https://sukebei.nyaa.si/view/2725572
Fate/hollow ataraxia
https://sukebei.nyaa.si/view/2575055
Fate/Zero
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B-5XtCxJULf4YWZfSkZKWGc2S2M
Lord El-Melloi II's Case Files
v01 https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B13rmXgOUD7NdUV2NDR2bWo1clU
v02 https://drive.google.com/file/d/1vQVafVYYmOiaXi-XHPhxdS24kMF4Avng/
v03 https://mega.nz/#!vZRXUK5C!fBJsFvzRgETpbk9MQXunAmbtvz5qOuatJ_x7rJeVQa4
Fate/strange Fake Light Novels
http://humbertozero.tumblr.com/post/150696689780/how-to-read-fatestrange-fake-light-novel-read

>Mahoutsukai no Yoru (Witch on the Holy Night)
Mahoutsukai no Yoru: https://mega.nz/#F!YVkkhAjQ!Ggu2BS3MDfaofporByJsFw
English Patch: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1nUY3G5Z8tgBnfvELhbLiYhmLolDI2TwC/
French Patch: https://github.com/IDerr/mahoyo-french

Other works
>Angel Voice (A doujin anthology that contains the short novel "Notes." written by Nasu, and the manga "clowick canaan-vail" drawn by Takeuchi.)
http://www.mediafire.com/file/4w9jk2bwy8b0xsh/Angel_Notes.zip
>Fate/Apocrypha
https://fateapocryphathetranslation.wordpress.com/
>Fate/Extra
https://cdromance.com/psp/fate-extra-mod/
>Fate/Prototype: Fragments of Sky Silver
https://mega.nz/#!aAsCybqb!WwnKiMn_HK9HqvA_myhLn5GM0yeAv8TTxyQsWWpqaGs
>Fire Girl
https://firegirlthetranslation.wordpress.com/
>Today's Menu for the Emiya Family v01-02
https://nyaa.si/view/1161603
>Tsuki no Sango: Coral of the Moon
https://www.mediafire.com/?uq1eqhccbxhxktx
>Tsuki no Sango manga
https://mangadex.org/chapter/773842/1

Other links
>Beast's Lair, the Type-Moon forum
forums.nrvnqsr.com
>Encyclopedia of Type Moon
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B49crU71miHObWRvV2tDUllYTjQ
>Fate/complete material II Character material
https://pastebin.com/Zjy1Sj6d
>Fate Franchise Loseless Soundtracks
https://mega.nz/#F!OQwx1DYA!1c0Dkm1VfOPpthg6etuU4g
>mirrormoon
http://mirrormoon.org/
>TMdict: (a light-weight, multi-lingual TYPE-MOON glossary)
tmdict.com/
>Tsuki-kan (comprehensive record of real-world statements, interviews, Q&As, feature articles, etc)
tsukikan.com/
>Tsukihime Archives
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1NBqMPjBkGiNk9vIgOtPyjNnpxeH5fmHI
>Tsukihime doujins from 2008
https://mega.nz/#!fHgSVb5L!EPDHKU2KHLdjW1bM2b0-VV7WzrA9xPqrLnJTu0AkwyY
>Tsukihime Music Collection
https://nyaa.si/view/1090729
>TYPE-MOON 10th Anniversary Phantasm translation
http://heavens-feel.com/type-moon_10_anniversary_phantasm_translation.html
>Type-Moon Mega folders
https://mega.nz/#F!tBRTDDLT!6-uk9SmrvHKLFYU_3QTwgQ
https://mega.nz/#F!IEgnySDK!wvEo43UGmHFEKC1JBVykGw
>TM Mega Pastebin
https://pastebin.com/7W19Hevb

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[Anonymous No.]

How can people think this is good? Look at Kirei's face and the weird looking Sakura in the center and just in general the colours and style just reeks of FGOisms

[Anonymous No.]

>>23007101
I loved that scene

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if you want to talk about FGO story/character/anime/whatever, please bring that discussion to another thread on /vg/, /a/ or /v/ instead of /tmg/

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>>23007921
Hence my slight tweak to the OP.

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>>23007921
Nice try, /vg/

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>>23007464
I think this is good, in one picture you can see the clear evolution of the rhino, I think this picture has a lot of value on a pedagogical sense.
Now seriously, it looks really weird, I don't know what Takeuchi was smoking when he did this, the composition and general idea behind the pic is alright, but the drawing of the characters it's just off

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>two months of no HF manga raws
Why are people so poor at scanning Young Ace?

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>>23009069
The same went for Case Files manga too, but i guess it's because Type-Moon already has its own manga site (which includes all TM manga under Kadokawa) so HF and Case Files manga are being updated on that site.

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>>23007101
>Mahoyo may get an English translation in your lifetime

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>>23009370
>day 4
That's going to take some time, to say the least.

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>>23008058
I like it.

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>>23009501
I bet if you started learning Japanese right now you would get good enough to read Mahoyo before the TL is finished.

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>>23009501
>japanese-french-english translation based of mcjons tl and done by a group of discord users

you could just MTL

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>>23010197
>>23009501
>tfw i started learning japanese and by the time the tsukihime remake and mahoyo 2 and 3 come around, i'll be able to speak 10 languages.

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>>23010805
>based on mcjons tl
what?

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>>23011156
What do you use?

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>>23010805
>based of mcjons tl
>image literally has them retranslating chapters 1-7
it doesn't matter how clear they make their intentions, stupid people with no reading ability still can't understand what "temporarily" means

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>>23011630
just using duolingo and consuming anime and vidya and japanese tweets in japanese because, after all, practice is the best way to learn

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>>23012347
>duolingo
Oh no. If you're going to use some kind of program/application/whatever you would call it, use Memrise. It's weak on the grammar side but it works well for teaching phrases and Kanji.

[Anonymous No.]

All you need to do is read/listen more + anki with a mining deck

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>>23012371
i'll take a look at it, thanks

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>>23012525
There's also custom made courses by the people if you don't like the Memrise made ones. IIRC they have Tae Kim and Genki stuff on there, or stuff tailored to anime (which is cringe but fuck it lmao).

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>>23012371
I like Lingodeer

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>>23011739
I don't care about your shitty image, everytime some retard in the discord asks questions regarding how they should translate something mcjons translation is the very first thing they quote. Please explain to me why the fuck they are even looking at a script they are fully aware is utterly fucked to shit

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>>23010197
In three or so years of average study it's comfortably readable whilst referring to a dictionary sometimes. You could do it earlier if you're neet and spend all your days learning, or if you're ok with suffering and looking up every other word in the dictionary because you're a scrub. I didn't even care about mahoyo that much but I read it to spite a friend who's dying to experience it but can't.

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>>23013005
>how they should translate something mcjons translation is the very first thing they quote
Keep proving how illiterate you are. Prose =/= Translation. Mcjons lines had flow but were full of mistranslations. His style copies Nasu into English well. But its NOT his style of fucking translation. Its his style of editing the English. Ignorance is a bliss I guess.

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>>23013005
>Please explain to me why the fuck they are even looking at a script they are fully aware is utterly fucked to shit
They aren't. You're ignoring what I'm saying. They are temporarily using mcjons script for chapters 1-7 so in the end there will be a complete script once they finish 8-13. Then they are retranslating 1-7 from French, WITHOUT mcjons script.

Theres a huge difference between looking at mcjon's English and how he translated things. Doing the former is a good exercise. Mcjon's script flows very well, but has mistranslations. Removing the latter fact would result in an amazing translation.

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>>23015389
>>23015406
Thanks for proving to me once again that you are EOPs that have never translated anything in their lives. looking at trash translations literally poisons your mind as you translate, and I don't know what the fuck your argument about his translation "flowing well" and copying Nasu's japanese into english is supposed to be when he literally didn't understand what he was reading.

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Why is Fate Zero so highly praised and it is even often recommended people start fate with this entry? It is subpar fan service for fsn fans with low standards. While the narrative goes out of its way to come off as dark and complex, it falls flat in all ways
kiritsugu doesn't feel like a tragic fallen hero who failed despite his best efforts, he just comes off as a third rate mage and master who keeps making the same mistakes over and over again expecting a different outcome. his only achievement was a sneak dishonest attack on a crippled dude and his wife. his rivalry with kotomine is senseless and comes out of nowhere.
kiritsugu was better as a memory in shirou's mind. his evasive descriptions did not need to be expanded upon. knowing him as the guy who accidentally caused the fuyuki fire because of the grail's destruction in the 4th hgw was more than enough in my opinion.
to me, gilgamesh and kotomine were the only enjoyable parts of the show, mostly because their characterization from fsn was well conveyed over without feeling stiff, awkward or retconned.

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>>23016181
>Assuming I'm EOP
Dumbass doesn't know the difference between stiff and stilted English vs shit that's readable and doesn't make you want to blow your brains out.
>looking at trash translations literally poisons your mind as you translate
Yeah, I agree and it's cool that they aren't doing that. I don't know how many times I need to tell you that they aren't using mcjon's translation as a base.
>his translation "flowing well"
His English. Your dumbass doesn't know why people need Editors.
> copying Nasu's japanese into english is supposed to be when he literally didn't understand what he was reading
You're a joke and a tool. You believe everything that people tell you. You don't find anything out by yourself. And it's funnier because it's all there for you to check.

Reactionaries are some of the dumbest people on Earth. You could be right 100% of the time for the 3 straight years but then you're wrong once? Boom, everything you've ever done goes in the trash bin, no matter how right it might have been.

You're a tool.

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>>23007464
cope

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>>23016622
Cause it was the first Fate show that had the Michael Bay action prettiness that Fate/Stay Night 2006 didn't have. Also having a serious take on the war was more appealing to newcomers since it was just the genre of the times, hell Guilty Crown and Mirai Nikki and both of those definitely had their own share of edge. Plus at that point, everyone online had already torn down FSN 2006 so anyone interested in Fate would look at this new entry that was labeled as a prequel and see something that should clear up any confusion as well as letting people skip 2006.
People have exaggerated the complexity of Fate/Stay Night ever since the VN had become popular so when people are given a path that seems easiest, they take it cause the meme of "How do I start Fate?" became reality since being braindead is a side effect of anime fans for the past few years.

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The dude from Melty Blood manga is now on FGO page as guest writer.
And I am not feeling well.
Anon, will 2020 be yet another shit year? Are there no good things to hope for?

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>>23016970
life will literally never be fulfilling for people like us.
I'll continue fantasising of Bazett until I die, probably.

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>>23016970
Please get excited for the Tsukihime crossover coming in April.

[Anonymous No.]

Anyone know where I can get the capsaba apk?
>inb4 just buy it poorfag
Google is a bitch and my bank has the Play Store flagged as a scam site so no digital purchases

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>>23017903
NOOOOOOOOOooooo
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Ok, at least I am curious at how shit this shit will be.

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>>23017903
APRIL 29TH BABY

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>>23017903
I swear if we don't get FunnyVamp Arc I'm gonna go shove a pineapple in Nasu's ass.

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>>23017903
I would actually look forward to that. Better to have some new Tsukihime material than none at all.

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>>23019118
I disagree if the content is what I expect it to be.

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>>23017903
please tell me you're joking

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>>23017903
Is it desperation because Arkknights or whatever its called is pulling the whales away from fgo?

[Anonymous No.]

Alright guys, I'm relatively new to the series as a whole, can someone help me understand some of the following:

>Why can't (Jesus/Lucifer, Hitler, George Washington) appear in a grail war? Is it just because of a sensibility thing?
>What's the difference between a dead apostle and an ancestor?
>If Shiki is tied to the root, how is she able to exist at all if her aspect is (void)?
Finally, and the big one that's been bugging me:
>Some characters claim that understanding magecraft weakens it, with the reasoning being that as science advanced, people understood the world better so mystery went away. However, several times it's shown that understanding and explaining how magecraft works actually makes it stronger, and the global knowledge of magecraft doesn't seem to weaken it at all. I originally thought this was a case of characters in the story not knowing the truth, and that modern mages were weaker just because of less mana in the world, but so many people I've talked to are adamant about this even though there's a lot contradicting it

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Anons I feel like I'm drifting off and giving less of a shit
I no longer even come here that often anymore
Maybe it's for the best after all these years of frustration, I think the TM we loved is long gone

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>>23016970
>MB shit manga
Why can't Nasu HIRE actual writers? He's afraid of being overshadowed?

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>>23020105
Don't think that's very popular, anon. Monster Strike is the only rival for FGO and has surpassed it many times too.

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>>23020216
I will try my best to answer your last question. Well first off, the definition of magecraft
>A general term for the act of artificially reenacting mysteries and miracles.
A magus family's magecraft foundation/ritual/formula/etc.. has its mystery. Mystery is basically "the unknown". If the truth behind those unknown things are revealed and becoming commong knowledge, the mysteries will be killed and that magecraft will be "degraded" to science. It can't be magecraft if it doesn't have mysteries.
>As far as magecraft was concerned, secrets themselves were life. Just as mysteries had meaning because they were mysteries, if they were understood, they lost that force. Of course, simply showing one's magecraft to another magus a single time wasn't enough to have an impact on it, but Lord El-Melloi II's discerning eye brought him frighteningly close.
>It he was just interested in the history or origin of magecraft, that would be fine. But if he also delved into the thoughts and theories of those magi who regulated that magecraft...
An example of this
>Weren't Automata capable of fighting independantly already a lost art? Cases like Trimmau, where the core was really something entirely different were one thing, but the Concept of Homunculus creation was steeply in decline. As knowledge of the human body deepened and spread throughout humanity, from the point humanity accepted that there were no Mysteries to be found within their own bodies, it had lost the grounds to be a field of Magecraft.
>No, even if we accepted my brother's theory that the human body still was as a black box, and the Mystery within it was not yet entirely erased, the fact that modern magi in the field couldn't compare to even antiques from hundreds of years ago was an undeniable fact.
Another example would be Kirschtaria in LB5. Back in that time people still believed in https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Celestial_spheres but now when we already know how it actually works, that theory was proven wrong and mysteries of cosmos/planets were destroyed, which leads to the weakening of astrology magecraft in modern era.

The other reason is that other magi can steal your family's magecraft.
>It was understandable. Having one's magecraft so thoroughly explained right in front of your eyes was like watching your own soul get pillaged. On top of that, having it happen in front of so many high ranking magi, even if it wasn't something so simple to copy, the chances of their carefully concealed magecraft being stolen away was quite high.
Magi focus on their research so they can reach the Root one day in the future. But as Aoko said in Mahoyo
>even if you get to the Root with the same route, the same method, if you're not first one, you won't reach Magic. No matter how good you are, if you're not number one, you're out.
hence magi are afraid of that and have to conceal it. By explaining how a magecraft ritual/formula works and all the secrets in front of other magi, you're actually destroying the magecraft itself and could also let those magi steal the research that your lineage have spent many many years on. If another magus reach the Root with your family's method before you, then you will have to start from zero and think of a new method to achieve that.

Anyway, there are still things like Modern Magecraft Theory department or invention/mystic codes that are created with both science/technology and magecraft. FGO official website says this "Magecraft is comprised of techniques from past humans that cannot be explained by science, while science encompasses the techniques of future humans that Magecraft cannot achieve."

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>>23016622
Even kotomine felt missused I didn’t read the LN but from fsn and fha you can feel that kirei existence is tragic in a sense and that he was kinda depressed and burning out from his very nature. Something that F/Z didn’t portrayed well.

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>>23018051
>wanting them to taint Arc
I'm hoping it's the shitty remake design and she has a different personality like Sion. That way the real Arc can stay clean

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>>23020483
Welcome to 7 years ago

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>>23020216
Servants are generally not drawn from people alive within the last hundred years. Since magic is powered by mystery, servants from the modern era would be pretty weak, with a few exceptions. Jesus/Lucifer is probably just sensibility, although they did hint at Jesus being the first user of the first (?) true magic recently
The Ancestors are basically just the strongest Dead Apostles. The church has killed/sealed a bunch of them, so a good number of the 27 are replacements for the originals.
Void Shiki is the definition of "don't think too hard about it," but at least with Independent Manifestation and Connection to the Root, she can show up wherever she feels like.
Bits of the above might be wrong, I'm sure someone will correct anything too terrible

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https://bbs.nga.cn/read.php?tid=19716811
If anyone wants to see more of Fate exhibition. For commemorative arts of UBW phase:
https://twitter.com/lightning446/status/1221057411370242048

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>>23020483
I just came back after a long break, I think I've stopped caring as much as I used to

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Thoughts on the official translation of KnK 1?

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>>23021179
Shitoko is wrong. See the Holy Grail of Fuyuki. You just get the same shit.

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>>23023194
Do you have the full thing?
I would love to read it, but the book is a bitch to find.

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>>23016622
>he just comes off as a third rate mage
He is a third rate Mage. We've known this ever since Kotomine mentioned in HF that Kerry relied on mundane guns.
> his only achievement was a sneak dishonest attack on a crippled dude and his wife
nvm the fact that this crippled dude was at the beginning the most powerful Master in the war, and Kiritsugu was the one who put him into that wheelchair as well.
> his rivalry with kotomine is senseless and comes out of nowhere.
I can somewhat agree with this. It's understandable why Kirei is so fucking mad at Kiritsugu, but the latter knows jackshit about Kotomine besides that "he's fucking dangerous".

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>>23020216
>>Some characters claim that understanding magecraft weakens it, with the reasoning being that as science advanced, people understood the world better so mystery went away. However, several times it's shown that understanding and explaining how magecraft works actually makes it stronger, and the global knowledge of magecraft doesn't seem to weaken it at all. I originally thought this was a case of characters in the story not knowing the truth, and that modern mages were weaker just because of less mana in the world, but so many people I've talked to are adamant about this even though there's a lot contradicting it
This is just Nasu being dumb.

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>>23023879
Go back to /vg/ you shitstain.

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>>23023194
Don't remember KnK starting like that though my memory could be fading. Wasn't it Shiki on her way home or something? Or is this a one off adaptation of a random chapter?

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>>23024512
Did you watch it in chronological order? The novels and movies both started with the skyscraper chapter.

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>>23024604
I know that, I just remember it starting in Shiki's perspective.

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>>23023194
It's really good and I really wish they could have carried out with the whole series.

>>23024235
There's a couple pages of preview on Google Books but it's all I've been able to find online.
https://books.google.com/books?id=tIDxKWeY3PEC&pg=PA247&lpg=PA247#v=onepage&q&f=false

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>>23023879
What?

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>>23025794
Ignore that guy.

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>>23025565
You can find the first two volumes of Faust on Madokami.

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>>23022280
>I'm hoping it's the shitty remake design and she has a different personality like Sion
Speaking of which the case files sequel announcement mentioned atlas didn't it do you think we'll see og Sion or shitty go Sion

[Anonymous No.]

Can someone post the Tsukihime vs Melty vs Tsukiremake art comparison picture?

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>>23028571
>didn't it do you think we'll see og Sion or shitty go Sion
Zepia's entry in Case Files mats mentioned his adoptive daughter who is actually his descendant and that they have a very good relationship, so it's the latter i think. It's established before that in both FGO and Case Files, Zepia stayed with Atlas and didn't become NoW.

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>>23028786
I've got this if you want to compare Takeuchi's style changes. 2010-2011 was peak.

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>>23029868
And the Arc version.

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>>23029879
>>23029868
Thanks Anon.

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>>23029868
>>23029879
>It's been 10 years since Takeuchi started implying noses instead of actually drawing them
Shame.

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>>23026825
Blessed, thanks anon

[Anonymous No.]

How do you feel about FGO addition to the lore of Nasu? Specifically the concept of Grand Servants, Soloman, and the Cosmos in the Lostbelt?

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>>23031000
>Grand Servants
It stands to reason that Servants existed before the HGW was devised, but I do think the initial explanation somewhat cheapens the concept (referring to HGW Servants as third-rate copies, etc)

>Solomon
Retcons Gilgamesh's rule being the turning point of AoG/AoM (and my memory is fuzzy if/when they ever stated that) but that's whatever. I quite like the character too

>Lostbelt
A much more interesting concept than Singularities imo even if it's still mostly "fantasy wasteland designed to pump out mob battles"

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>>23031000
>Absolutely hate Soloman cause he's also Nasu's obnoxious self insert Romani

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>>23029868
I like the 2009 one

[Anonymous No.]

What would you have done in the situation? Either side

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>>23031172
Embrace Senpai

[Anonymous No.]

I was about to play a game against Shinji at the harbor in HA

When he flipped his card over the game crashed

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>>23028786
I have this one

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>>23031000
None of it really relates to the lore areas I focus on.

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>>23031538
And this too

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>>23016970
>The dude from Melty Blood manga is now on FGO page as guest writer.
Melty Blood Nightmare is not his only TM work though. ACPI has done many side works (mostly Drama CD and manga) for TM and all of those were Tsukihime related with only two Fate/ Drama CDs, one for Hollow Ataraxia and the other one for Extra. So it's not like his work for FGO must be about Melty Blood or Tsukihime.
That said, writers are usually added to FGO website after the event/servant/story chapter written by them gets released, their names aren't added before that as far as i know.

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>>23031545
Arihiko looks like Shiroumine

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>>23031538
>>23031545
>that Arihiko
God the new designs suck ass.

[Anonymous No.]

Should I read Tsukihime or Fate first?

[Anonymous No.]

>>23031545
I still hate what they did to the maid outfit colors, especially Kohaku's kimono. I hope that was just a placeholder.

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>>23032722
Making Kohaku's apron less frilly was unforgivable. Maid aprons are all about the frills.

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>>23031545
look at Hisui's ribbon.
it's barely even visible.

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>>23032752
Facts, Takeuchi lost his maid culture ways

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>>23024235
>>23025565
Here, I uploaded it in case you guys don't have access to madokami: https://files.catbox.moe/7kn8sb.zip

There's also a Nasu/Takeuchi interview at the end.

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>>23024512
The intro you're referencing was added in a later re-release of the KnK novels. The original always started with Mikiya at Shiki's door.

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>>23033322
OH I see, that would explain it. I read the most recent reprint, came out in the late 2000s I think?

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>>23031472
Just search FHA hanafuda crash and they'll be a file you need to download to fix that portion of the game

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>>23033322
For what it's worth the plus-disc version has this intro too

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>>23036326
Rude.

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>>23032769
I never noticed that and now I am even sadder

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So I'm an absolute faggot for doing this but how crucial is it to read FSN in order? I've read Fate a couple years back, watched the UBW anime and was a bit disappointed, and now that the HF movies are almost over I'm thinking of getting back into the VN.

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>>23037783
The VN won't let you read routes out of order. The UBW anime is faithful enough to let you CTRL through UBW without missing much, though.

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>>23037856
You can read them out of order if you have the version with 3 .exe files

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>>23037783
With the mysteries that are solved and the revelations that occur as you go, ad well as thematically, it is significantly more satisfying to do them in order

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>>23031545
>>23031538
Thank you too, have a Kohaku.

[Anonymous No.]

discord group got another mahoyo release out after nearly 4 months

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>>23038434
that image makes me uncomfortable

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>>23038468
Probably because it's more western styled. I still think it looks good.

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>>23038450
>Expecting anyone to do anything in December or January
4chan is just neets isn't it, there's no way you can be this stupid

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>>23039861
Nah, i agree with him - there's some weird with nose and lips line.

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>>23040810
>>23038434
I think it's the left eye that looks weird

[Anonymous No.]

>>23036326
Akiha is cute

[Anonymous No.]

What are your unpopular /tmg/ opinions?

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>>23043555
Caren was a mistake

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>>23043555
Bazett is the best girl.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23043656
Her scenes were among the best in HA. Horrific opinion.

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>>23043555
KT as a concept was too great for earlier T-M, the game should've been given two or three more coats of polish before releasing.
>>23043676
Her character and personality was good, but some of them dragged a lot, I found some of them to be so obnoxious that I had to take a break while reading them.

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I just watched HF 1 and 2 and I have to ask why do people say they are a better adaptation than UBW? They cut out so much scenes and explanations it's not even funny. At least animation, visuals and character design were great.

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>>23044375
because UBW is a garbage fire

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>>23044678
Less of a dumpster fire than the HF movies

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>>23043555
Ciel is best girl, and her route's changes from Arc's are significant enough to make it good.

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>>23044678
Eh, it was decent imo

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>>23044678
It was pretty good for people who already read the VN, but obviously misses a few things for people new to it.

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>>23043555
I prefer DEEN's anime. Some stuff felt better.

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>>23044870
As much as I like Oath Sign and Brave Shine, OP1 of 2006 is the best FSN opening
https://youtu.be/Qy7Q77ZD_ME

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>>23044886
Because it was basically just the original VN opening with Sachi Tainaka. You can't give them the full credit, can you?

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>>23045051
Not just the song, that whole OP just fits Fate's atmosphere. Ufotable's OPs are more shounen-like.

[Anonymous No.]

This upcoming doujin got destroyed by a hard drive crash. Come, weep with me.

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>>23045190
Fuck. I really wish there were more Reines doujin scanned and uploaded. At least there's a couple of good ones.

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>>23045153
...I mean, you linked the OP yourself, so you must have enough vision to see how bad the animation is, right? Have a closer look at about the 0:32 mark, when Lancer and Archer hit each other. Pinnacle DEEN.

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>>23045208
It was gonna be digital, anon. Just a few months away...

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>>23045190
>Potentially having Reines absorbed and forcefully converted into a maid in order to serve at El-Melloi's beck and call, with her being humiliated throughout the entire endeavor
>Lost forever

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>>23045190
It can all be redrawn.

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>>23044375
> They cut out so much scenes and explanations it's not even funny.
Do tell. I heard Illya's pretty much a non-factor, which is gonna be a real problem if they were actually going for the true end.

>>23044678
It's very much an adaptation and does a lot of things I don't like, but garbage fire is a bit much.

>>23045601
Relevant.

>いやはや
>「長く作り手やってるとこういうこともあるかなぁ……」
>と無理矢理達観して気持ちを整理しましたが
>流石にすぐに同じものを作り直す気にはなれませんね……

>そんなわけで
>霊夢本、ライネス本、龍田ムービー待っててくれた方々
>申し訳ありません。

>僕自身「消えたのならまた作ればいいや」と思ってますが
>その気になるのはそこそこ時間が掛かるだろうし
>たとえ作り直したとしても相当内容変わっちゃうと思います。

>楽しみしてくれてた方々、重ねて申し訳ありません。
>あまり期待しない感じでお願いいたします。ホントスイマセン。

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>>23045208
>doujin scan
Honestly at this rate i just hope somebody will scan Case Files mats soon

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>>23045636
Ouch, I didn't know he lost that much WIP.
Understandable.

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>>23043555
That the best thing that could happen to Tsukihime is if Nasu came out tomorrow and said the remake was cancelled.

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>>23046686
You don't like the Remake designs that much?

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>>23045636
>Do tell.
They cut out most Ilya and Kirei scenes. My favourite part is how they skipped from Archer cutting off his arm to Shirou coming home without any explanation of how he got his arm attached.

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[Anonymous No.]

Azura

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>>23047614
>They cut out most Ilya
That sucks, but like I said, it shouldn't be a problem if-

>and Kirei
Okay now wait just a minute.

[Anonymous No.]

The 2006 anime did a lot of things right.

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>>23049032
Yeah, no Kirei backstory, post surgery talk and chats with Shirou about the nature of good and evil

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>>23049052
Like?

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>>23049267
Now that's going to be a problem. Behold, the final boss! This guy you barely know or care about!

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>>23049282
>This guy you barely know

ufo Stay Night is being adapted as a sequel to Zero, anon

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>>23049032
>>23049267
>>23049282
Read the manga/VN for the story and watch the movies for the fights.

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>>23049845
...is it? Like, actually? Is dragging my buds through UBW without doing Zero a mistake?

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>>23049851
Yes. Nasu wanted Aniplex to adapt Zero first, then Stay Night.

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>>23049877
Son of a bitch.

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>>23044678
>>23044710
>Nasu working closely with ufo
>removes all eroge elements from canonical releases
>admits the VN came on too strong in UBW interview
>preferred Miura's vision of a single flowing over the VN puzzle
>The one "Nasu-to-Miura" request I made was, "Please change the Noble Phantasms."
>Nasu: Exactly. Old Me would have fearlessly spelled out the theme. I thought "Ah, this is definitely going to transfix the people tuned to this channel." But with this adaptation, we're trying to take the original game's copious amounts of dialog and revise them into a form that will convey the same meaning in the allotted length and can be depicted well visually. I think that's what they were careful about in this adaptation. I can't remember what I was feeling as I was writing 10 years ago, but I remember to this day what it was that I wanted to write. That's why I'm explaining to the anime staff, "In this scene, this line here is key, so trim down the rest and highlight this part."
>Nasu: The first script that ufotable brought to me had a lot of sentences lifted from the original game, but since we'd just end up replicating those scenes, I realized that I had to retool it for the anime. But when I rewrote it myself, it was just cool, and not compelling at all. So when I re-read the original game, it was totally grim. That's when I realized that that was the essence of UBW, and the lines that took 30 minutes for the characters to utter in-game, I cut down to five. But I had no idea how it would be brought to the screen, so in my head I was thinking "Sorry, Mr Miura," but it turned out to be a wonderful film, and personally, I'm overjoyed.
>Nasu: Many anime fans want there to be a lot of cute bishoujo characters in the work, and while they work hard to meet those needs, Iwakami, an important producer at Aniplex, wasn't satisfied just by doing that. I suggested that he tackle Fate/Zero, a dark and serious story full of raw emotion. He had the resolve, and that's how they ended up adapting Fate/Zero.

Nasu will be remembered for years to come, just like Kafka and Dostoevsky

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2D is too good for us.

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>>23049851
I'm pretty sure there's post-surgery talk in the movie, but yeah I recall there was also some references to Zero that made me think it's intended as a sequel instead of Zero as a prequel

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>>23050046
beautiful

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>>23050046
https://twitter.com/futaba_cocona/status/1231243273651408896

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>>23049282
Kirei was just a last minute extra boss in HF. Angra Mainyu is the actual main villain.

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>>23049936
Except unlike Kafka and Dostoevsky, his works are far more poorly written on the whole and only have shit translations available for them

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https://twitter.com/_club_3/status/1231511934417031169

88 squeezing 88

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>>23051541
Nice.

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>>23049267
>DEEN had more Illya and Kotomine than the HF movies

Can anyone defend this?

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>>23052045
Yes. Watch DEEN if you want Ilya scenes, because HF is the Sakura route.

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>>23052083
>Watch DEEN if you want Ilya scenes, because HF is the Sakura route.
Wow either delusional Sakurafag who can't remember what HF was like or lost anime-only secondary.

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>>23052386
HF was supposed to have an option to branch off into an Ilya route. Since it didn't, the Ilya scenes became pointless and the most obvious thing to cut.

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I've been reading FSN. Should I even bother with the anime adaptations? I don't really enjoy anime but I've been really enjoying Fate and I would hate to miss out on some things.

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>>23052711
Sure. They're not as good as the visual novel, but seeing some of your favorite scenes animated can be entertaining.

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>>23049936
am I supposed to give a shit about any of that when th nasu-miuara combo also produced KnK 6?

and then they they let Miura do UBW, despite KnK 6 being considered a garbage fire, because nasu liked how the fucker did everything he told him to do without question.

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>>23031025
>Retcons Gilgamesh's rule being the turning point of AoG/AoM
That was an assumption. Even Garden of Avalon brought up the reason wasn't know yet (but Merlin hinted was related to Solomon). Anyway, this was in the works for a while, with Nasu forbidding Higashide and someone else I forgot from using him.
His lore ties in with some of Aoko's observation of magecraft, and the grand orders set up already in Case Files iirc, those got namedropped too, as "missions from God from the end of the Ages of Gods." So there was already a lot of mage world-building there. It's only a shame that having Solomon around in the modern era confined him to Antarctica instead of interacting with the Mage Association. He could have been a good Dr. Roman type (as the one from DDD) consultator's mysterious figure.

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>>23031000
Like: Solomon and mage lore-age of Gods lore, Beasts (when well done, not Beast III trainwreck), Singularity ideas (when isn't abused in every event, the actual dangerous singularities), Grand Servants are also fine I wish Nasu would define these better. The Crypters and Chaldea are also good addition and idea if only it didn't rely on a single Master who has no personality. A time squad master team would have been more interesting to read about fuck it.
So So: Lostbelts. It's not that I dislike them it's that the pruning system isn't something I'm very sold on.

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>>23049851
Nasu said the order of the anime of Fate is Zero->then FSN.
He wanted them to make FSN adaptation, Zero adaptation's sequel, not viceversa. The anime falls apart without Zero.

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>>23053485
Fuck. I forgot Wandering Sea. That was pretty based.

Hate: Nu Sion. Please take her away from me.

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>>23053477
>and the grand orders set up already in Case Files iirc
Grand Order got introduced in Clock Tower 2015 to be exact, it's brought up in Case Files and FGO later.

>>23053506
>Fuck. I forgot Wandering Sea. That was pretty based.
Same, i have always wanted to know more about the Wandering Sea (and Jewel Killer too, wonder if this magus would get to appear in a TM work later) and absolutely love how cool it looks. Can't wait to see the magi and workshops there (their workshops are under regression to the AoG btw) and hopefully the Wandering Sea will be used in other TM works as well.

[Anonymous No.]

What is the difference between ‘eternal arms mastery’ like raiko have and ‘self suggestion’ that shiki have

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>>23053499
Why is Nasu like this

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>>23054019
Raiko is just naturally super talented with all conceivable weapons, Shiki has to use a form of self-hypnosis to achieve skill.

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>>23052045
>DEEN had more Illya and Kotomine than the HF movies
That's not true though.

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>>23054056
Because he's like Georges Lucas with the original SW trilogy re-release. He's not satisfied with his works and he has changed since he created them, so he wants to change them. But that's stupid because their works were good in their time and don't need to be re-touched.
I mean, imagine a painter coming to a famous painting to change it because he decides years after that he prefers another shade of blue and some parts aren't as good as they should be.

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>>23052083
>t. Sudou

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Finished Mahoyo / 魔法使いの夜, the untranslateable Type Moon classic that came out in 2012. What can I say but damn. Mahoyo is just an absolutely stunning package, solid on every single front - visual presentation, music, writing, etc. One might be put off by the fact that two sequels were planned to follow it up yet never came out, but Mahoyo is fairly standalone - it's shorter than Tsukihime or F/SN, being 20 hours long, but the plot is complete and has a very satisfying ending.

If for nothing else, Mahoyo is worth playing for the visuals. To say that Mahoyo pushed the medium forward immensely would be an understatement. Nothing really comes close to what Mahoyo does - while playing it I felt that it was the first "visual" novel I had ever played. There seemed to be a rule in Type-Moon that every change in paragraph had to be a new visual, and indeed it's so - there's no static sprites standing behind a text box here. There's constant movement, shifts in angles, new assets/effect - all used to Create The Scene, the Mood.

I don't like comparing games or being so negative, but to some degree I do think it's kind of embarrassing that Mahoyo came out ***8*** years ago and barely anything can compare to it. Nothing else has made me feel the stagnation of VNs so hard. That's being unfair, but still.

Anyway, I could go on all day. The music is baller as fuck and I could list a lot of kami tracks. The writing is good - I would like to call special attention to Soujuurou being chad as fuck, and his back and forth with Aoko being great. If I had to force in some criticism for Mahoyo, I guess the thing most people could point to as a flaw is the lack of voice acting. Personally I don't really care as much about VA as other people do, but the lack of it here does contrast with the production values a bit.

But yeah. Mahoyo is a great game and a very complete package. I don't think I really need to shill this game to people (it's Type Moon after all) but wow. I put it off since I thought it was incomplete, but don't make my mistake. Mahoyo stands alone and is well worth a play.

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>>23055632
I wish I could read Japanese already, then I could share in the happiness...

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>>23055632
Does mahoyo deserve an anime and manga adaption?

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>>23055776
Manga? Sure, but I don't think anyone would really see a point in it. It would give the series more popularity and accessibility, but that's about it. Anyone who would be inclined to read the manga would probably just read the VN instead.
Anime? Hell no. Ufotable will fuck this up guaranteed. The only thing they won't fuck up is the fight scenes, and the rest will probably just be cut out anyway.

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>>23055776
Manga would be neat, anime would be a trainwreck.
You would need to find VA's for characters from a voiceless VN.
That is not ideal by any means.
It isn't that easy to adapt either.

Overall it is in it's best form as Nasu envisioned as a voiceless VN.

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>>23053604
Well whatever is the case I like the idea of the grand orders. It also helps to ground the mages in tying them to a historical famous mage rather than only Nasu's OCs, that's always been the weakest part of the mage lore because there're a lot of well know witches and occultists to just narrow it to OCs would make the setting very unrealistic. I'm glad FGO makes efforts to unite the Nasu lore with historical one (like, for example, how Helena and Paracelsus were members of the Clock Tower too). It makes the world-building stronger because it has roots in something that could have existed.

Wandering Sea is definitely one of the best aspects. I love the mage lore a lot so I was giddy to see a glimpse of the workshops of regression with the Ages of Gods, and also how the "quest of the Root" isn't some end goal for all magus. We knew this from Atlas, but their focus was elsewhere and not their own research, Wandering Sea getting a different approach makes me want they get a work focused on them someday. Like follow a newbie recruit and have them introduce the place through their eyes.

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>>23054056
I don't get what you mean, he stated his reason why: Because Zero is more easy to sell to the audience than a bishoujo harem work, so he wanted it as entry for Fate Universe and Aniplex guy agreed with him. So they made the Zero anime thinking about new fans of Fate. And FSN would be connected as sequel.

The original source is opposite, but the anime form right order is Zero->FSN.

[Anonymous No.]

Zero is also easier to adapt due it being an LN over a VN which is easier to adapt. FSN is also too long for its own good so it’s easier to adapt a LN.

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>>23056778
But original FSN didn't have voices too, then DEEN came out, and then Realta Nua with voice actors from the anime

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>>23057070
>But original FSN didn't have voices too
Wait, I recall playing the release where you have to do all the routes one after the other and I'm pretty confident they had voices. That was patched in?
I read Realta Nua (the three exe version) way after, I didn't knew that.

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>>23057070
Yes, but that was due to a rather small budget.
It would've had voices if they had the money.
Mahoyo was never intended to have voices.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23057118
The mirror moon patch had voices ported from the PS2 version

[Anonymous No.]

>>23056338
>Anime? Hell no. Ufotable will fuck this up guaranteed.

What do you mean?

[Anonymous No.]

why does nasu always flipflop between 'servants r tools' and 'feel bad for them' even though i think he thinks the former more than the latter?

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>>23057361
Easy. They will cut out important lines, prioritize fight scenes, and ruin character perception. Bet that they will make Soujuurou look completely demented and retarded, removing his mindset entirely.

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>>23058042
>No Nasu, you don't get it. The Vampire chick should look like this cute french model from this fashion magazine. And we meed maid, everyone loves maids. And sex, don't forget the sex.
>Oh, you don't want to write sex? Okay, I'll do it for you
>Silly Nasu, nobody buys otome games. Make the MC a guy and turn King Arthur into a hot blonde chick that looks like Hisui. Also, make Rider a girl. Trust me on this. Also, the loli should be approcheable instead of batshit crazy, we can sell more merch this way.

Takeuchi has been doing this sort of thing since Tsukihime at the very least.

Only Kara no Kyoukai, Mahoutsukai no Yoru and Last Encore are pure 100% Nasu

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>>23058365
Reminder than the only reason servants like Raikou are female is because Takeuchi forced it on Nasu and the rest of TM disregarding the work already done on the character.

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>>23055632
>I don't like comparing games or being so negative, but to some degree I do think it's kind of embarrassing that Mahoyo came out ***8*** years ago and barely anything can compare to it. Nothing else has made me feel the stagnation of VNs so hard. That's being unfair, but still.
I mean the last great VNs all came out in 2010. Mahoyo would have too if they didn't fuck up development schedule.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23058038
They would for sure because all of Soujuurou's character getting explained takes place almost entirely inside his own head for third person narration. They already did the same thing with Shirou

[Anonymous No.]

>>23043555
I don’t see the point in the remake, the graphics will most likely be terrible, there’s no sense in reading the same text, there will be no good ending for my beloved Akiha, translation from Japanese will take a lot of time, and it will take years to my native language.

Akiha is underestimated.

SHIKI crappy man.

Shirou is a good guy and his ideals are beautiful, he never understood the hatred of the anime community in his direction.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23059108
>there will be no good ending for my beloved Akiha
You have read Kagetsu Tohya, right? They'll most likely make that extra story about Akiha part of the main route.

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>>23059172
If I don’t confuse, then KT is a fan handicraft, yet Nasu decided to give her 2 not very good endings, plus what is described in CT does not have a chance. And I don’t want to get a good ending because I don’t want it, the author’s decision is the law.

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>>23058365
>The Vampire chick should look like this cute french model from this fashion magazine. And we meed maid, everyone loves maids.
>turn King Arthur into a hot blonde chick that looks like Hisui. Also, make Rider a girl.
He was right

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>>23059224
Kagetsu Tohya consists of both fanmade scenes and Nasu scenes. One of the side stories outside of the loop is a continuation of Akiha True that confirms that Shiki survived after all thanks to Ciel's efforts. Apparently it was even included in a beta version of Tsukihime.

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>>23060665
I can’t believe that the story with Akiha was made by Nasu, and even if it is included in the remake, it will be strange to see such an end made under the pressure of fans who cried a lot. Plus, how would Shiki survive after killing himself, given that he was precisely aiming at his "death line"? This is already too strong an assumption for a good ending.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23060927
Give Akiha a break, let her get the happy ending she deserves

[Anonymous No.]

>>23060927
>Plus, how would Shiki survive after killing himself, given that he was precisely aiming at his "death line"?
Here's where I'm going to have to stop you. If you remember correctly, it was never confirmed whether Shiki lived or died. His body completely disappeared, and the only thing left was his knife. Akiha picks up the knife, and feels the energy/heartbeat thing for a moment before it fades again. All of this is an implication that he isn't dead, especially the fact that his body just wasn't there.
Taking away that Shiki was dead with certainty would make you a speed reader or one with no comprehension skills.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23060940
I do not mind, but it seems to me that if the author changes the plot to suit the requirements of the fans, then this is not good.
>>23060956
When he kills enemies, then their bodies decay if I don’t confuse anything, only blood remains (like Sacchin’s), it is not surprising that his body disappeared. Plus, if I don’t confuse anything, it is clearly stated in VN that he hit on his death line, there was a lot of debate on this anonymous imageboard of my country about this and some fans suggested that he allegedly hit on the “contact line with sister”, along which he received part her life, cutting this line, he broke the connection. But that seems too childish hope.

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>>23061540
>When he kills enemies, then their bodies decay if I don’t confuse anything, only blood remains (like Sacchin’s)
I was always under the impression that this was due to his enemies being vamparies and related monstrosities. I've not played Tsuki for 7 years tho so my memory is really hazy on this one.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23061540
No.
Chaos, the Dead and Sacchin turned to ash, because they were vampires.
Everyone else he killed (mainly in Bad Ends) ended up in pieces.

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>>23057289
>It would've had voices if they had the money.
[citation needed]

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>>23061540
>“contact line with sister”
Thats not alleged, that was his intention. When he looked down at his body there were 2 points, he didnt know which would sever the line or kill him. Either way he would have saved his sister, so he took a guess, and whadya know he survived.
At least, this is how I recall it.

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>>23062533
Citation: Realta Nua.
It did everything Nasu has wanted because resources were limited on release, like the sex scenes or some lines.
Also 2006. Nasu worked closely with the team, its safe to assume he had a small hand in picking VAs.

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>>23057070
>>23062533
>>23062815
Nasu picked the VAs for Melty Blood and Fate/stay night. It's confirmed in the interviews.

Why do secondaries believe that Nasu was not involved with the anime adaptions of his works?

[Anonymous No.]

>Nasu poured his heart and soul into making that Aoko game and then got sad when no one bought it
>Nasu delayed the sequels and Tsukihime remake because of it

Why didn't you buy it?

[Anonymous No.]

>>23062854
This. I think Kawasumi was chosen because Takeuchi was a fan of Crest of the Stars and Suwabe because of Prince of Tennis.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23062919
https://heavens-feel.com/type-moon_10_anniversary_phantasm_translation.html#kawasumiayako

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>>23062815
>>23062533
Ayako Kawasumi's Saber has dignity in her cuteness

- Did you participate in the casting of voice actors and actresses?

Nasu: I participated in the casting meetings and acted selfish. XD Takeuchi had wanted to apply Kawasumi-san as Saber, and I agreed with him.

- Why did you choose Ayako Kawasumi?

Nasu: She has a beautiful, elegant, yet girly voice.

Takeuchi: I had her voice in mind from the beginning, because I needed the dignity in Saber's voice. I heard her voice in another anime and back then I thought, "Her voice is cool, pretty with dignity." Also the sound director had suggested her, I knew he had the same images of her as I.

Nasu: The reason Takeuchi picked Junichi Suwabe as Archer was terrific, he got the idea from "The Prince of Tennis." He was the candidate for another character, but the test result was so great, we decided to change immediately.

- Why did Takeuchi-san needed Suwabe-san as Archer?

Takeuchi: His voice is pretty awesome, we had some options but we had planned to have a young actor for Archer, and all we needed after that was joining Jouji Nakata. :D

- Why did you want Nakata-san so eagerly?

Takeuchi: We love him XD

Nasu: He has participated in all our works from when we were just a doujin group. We met him when we were creating "Kara no Kyokai," he has a nice voice and he is a very nice guy, we fell in love from the time we first met. (laugh)

Takeuchi: He read all 2 bulky volumes of "Kara no Kyokai" just for his three lines of dialogs.

Nasu: It was when we were just a doujin group, we were impressed with his attitude.

- Why did you pick Kana Ueda-san as Rin?

Takeuchi: Her voice is too cute, but we dared to make Rin's voice cute.

Nasu: We thought, "Should we look for another possibility for Rin's voice? How about making Rin act overly proud with a cute voice? However it could be risky."

- What do you think about Noriko Shitaya as Sakura?

Nasu: She has a pretty sweet voice like honey. I can't blame her even if she do anything bad with that voice XD

[Anonymous No.]

I love Rider so much, I wish I could take her and leave Sackuwurms behind

[Anonymous No.]

>>23063219
Saber vs Rider (crazy train 1 & 2) were my favorite servant fights in the VN.

Sad we never got to see Rider vs Lancer or Berserker.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23062859
I wasn’t into T-M yet back in 2012.
t. elder zoomer

[Anonymous No.]

>>23058365
Is there legitimately anything Takeuchi has done that hasn't been retarded?

[Anonymous No.]

>>23063406
This, I literally read Tsukihime and Fate in 2013, back then still very much underage

[Anonymous No.]

At the risk of sounding like a newfag, why didn't Mirror Moon try and tackle Mahoyo? Did the group just disintegrate after TM abandoned everything not fgo?

[Anonymous No.]

>>23063454
>This, I literally read Tsukihime and Fate in 2013, back then still very much underage

What happened to this fanbase

[Anonymous No.]

>>23062815
>>23062987
I already know this, just didn't have the sources on hand. Can you not tag me when I'm agreeing with you? Thanks.

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>>23063492
>tfw I get triggered because people still read the things I love
Nah, you'd rather people never read them again and let the fanbase die, wouldn't you? And before you say it, if they're here they likely didn't get here from FGO, or if they did they've completely left those ways.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23063526
I'm actually here because I hate FGO with a passion and have been hating on it on /a/ ever since it came out. My favourite Nasu work is still Tsukihime and I really wish we'd go back to urban fantasy instead of the high concept fantasy clusterfuck that is FGO and everything connected to it.
Would actually pay for the Tsukihime remake but only if they redesigned the characters again, preferably using something close to the Melty Blood designs.
Sorry for being 22 I guess.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23063492
Fuck off, old man.
You got to enjoy the T-M fandom at its prime and I didn’t.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23063564
>Sorry for being 22 I guess.
Don't be sorry for being 22, be sorry for posting a boomer comment.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23063611
My friends have been ridiculing me for having boomer tastes (music etc.) for almost whole my life, please not you too, /tmg/.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23063564
>My favourite Nasu work is still Tsukihime and I really wish we'd go back to urban fantasy instead of the high concept fantasy clusterfuck that is FGO and everything connected to it.

That started with Extra and CCC

[Anonymous No.]

>>23063638
OK Boomer.
>>23063671
I mean, he DID say everything connected to it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23063671
Extra (which I started and didn't really like) was a spinoff game set in an alternate reality and didn't seem that significant, other than in introducing the ever-popular Nero. It was never the main focus and core of the franchise as FGO became.

[Anonymous No.]

So are /tmg/ posters the newfags who weren't around for the best T-M threads of 2004-2014?

[Anonymous No.]

>>23063434
Reminder that Nasu ruined Archer by taking away his defining, central conflict. The one which in UBW was SPECIFIED hadn't been fixed even if he found an answer, because he would just forget it all over again.

And then CCC came along and did him even worse. Extella had hints of promise, but Link ruined that, too, by having him backtrack on his earlier plans and then turning him into a copy of Shirou when dealing with other Servants. Like his conversations with Gil in Extella Link are absolutely infuriating, because Archer acts as if HE is UBW Shirou there.

Also, the Moon Cell is a shit setting which enables Nasu's laziness. The first game at least had a somewhat workable frame, but CCC threw that all into the garbage and Extella chose the worst imaginable format for the gameplay, which means it's all a fucking chore. Out of all the games, I honestly think Extra was the best, both in story and gameplay.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23063738
I'm not saying that Nasu isn't a hack either, it's just that so many stupid stuff in his work is the direct result of Takeuchi.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23063738
Didn’t Nasu flat-out admit, he hadn’t had any idea what to do with Archer after FSN and just kept him around because people found him cool?

[Anonymous No.]

>>23063937
That sounds about right. GARcher is completely my husbando but he feels forced and out of place everywhere except in F/SN

[Anonymous No.]

>Nasu: As for myself, at that time I had just cleared Bayonetta, which is why CCC features such a high tension scenario. I bared my desire for all to see, "Well see, I really want to write a slutty bitch into the story. A super erotic bitch to end them all. Like why the heck don’t we just make the game into a new genre called Code Bitch?" So I went to Takeshi Takeuchi with a variety of nonsensical requests such as, "Please make the last boss costume naked-apron (Hadaka Apron)."

>Nasu: Included below is the initial plan we set out in 2009: "An RPG where five Black Sakura chase you around. Rather than being chased around by evil monsters, the player will be chased around in an immoral world by half naked beauties wearing bondage themed attire. A strange dungeon filled with yandere stalkers. Each of the five Sakura take on one of the following traits: erotic-cute, erotic-scary, erotic-annoying, or erotic-pain. However you look at it, basically the same as Rider-san, really... (continuation omitted)."

What a fucking creator

[Anonymous No.]

>>23063724
Go alienate yourself Boomer, things aren't like they were in your times anymore.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23043670
Nasu said something about it when he spoke of CCC, that the highlight and focus of Fate is the relationship between magus and Servant or Heroic Spirit, their bonding (positive and negative) and how they separate in the end. That's why the climax of CCC in his eyes which was the sum of what he wanted to tell about FSN was the scene the Servants said goodbye in the true end. Because in that climax: the maturity of the magus and the Heroic Spirit's peace is where the heart is. Something similar he said about FGO and the last scene with Solomon, about revisiting the "heart of FSN" which he wanted to highlit but "some fans forgot." Even if he wasn't a Servant of the self insert, he was the Ruler whom the magus bonded with that has been a thing since Proto.

Rin's final scene with Archer and Shirou's and Saber relationship (Waver with Iskandar in FZ, not by Nasu, but he thought of this relationship as the heart and Butcher wrote it, Nero-who Nasu sees as the Main Servant in Extra-and Hakuno, etc). HF always treated as an extra in Nasu's eyes, something he added to FSN which was already a complete story with Fate and UBW. Since his draft in Prototype, the focus has always been a magus and a Heroic Spirit, and their journey together.

Fate Hollow Ataraxia's ending and message is about letting go and moving forward. The whole loop is caused by Avenger forming a pact with Bazett who couldn't accept that she got knocked out of the war before it began. Neither Angra nor Bazett wanted to move forward until the end of the game, where Angra is the one to make the decision that Bazett moving forward with her life is more important than his 4 day loop of happiness.

The salvation of a loved one who has been ignored and the heroic sacrifice of another who has been misunderstood in previous occassions (Ilya-Sakura*, Black Sakura-White Sakura. The Servant farewells were already explored in FSN- CCC compresses them).

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>>23064221
>Even if he wasn't a Servant of the self insert, he was the Ruler whom the magus bonded with that has been a thing since Proto.
First off stop posting this everywhere second of all this doesn't work when neither Gudao or Roman are actual characters
>"some fans forgot"
I'm guessing this just Nasu being bitter about old fans not wanting anything to do with nu-fate

[Anonymous No.]

Who rolling the Eresh banner today?

[Anonymous No.]

>>23064615
> I'm guessing this just Nasu being bitter about old fans not wanting anything to do with nu-fate

He has no right to complain about what he's done to the original T-M. People can follow what they want to follow.

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>>23063468
fan translating is a massive time investment and a cuck job. If you actually know japanese you gain nothing from translating shit for other people for free other than "yay I did it!". Also it's hard to pretend that people give a shit about the quality of your work when some of the most successful products of all time have had shit translations

[Anonymous No.]

Newfag here, just started Kagetsu Tohya a few hours ago and there's a weird glitch with the music. Basically after one track finishes playing, another track starts playing for a second or two before cutting back to the first one. Nobody online seems to be having this problem and I'm pretty sure I used the torrent in this thread to download it. Anyone know how I can fix this?

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>>23063564
I suggest you calm down and recognize that not everyone feels the same as you do. What you may consider a positive experience may be a negative one for others. If you like the game so much, why not discuss what you do like about it, you coward.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23065148
>recognize that not everyone feels the same as you do
Oh I know that very well. The amount of people who F/GO and related T/M content is quite vast, after all. I understand that the direction Fate wend with within the last decade was appealing to a significant portion of the fanbase (along with bringing in many new Fatefags) and hey, good for them, and good for T/M for making all the money.
What I've been bitching about for all those years is just me being bitter about T/M focusing on the kind of stories and content that don't appeal to me personally; and that with the immense success of that direction the company has little reason to create the kind of content I liked.
>What I like about it
My sister-wife, Akiha!
...in all honesty, I'll just state right now my position on it is probably coloured largely by my rose-tinted glasses, stemming from my middle school nostalgia for one of my first VN's.
What I remember most fondly from Tsukihime after the years is probably the atmosphere, especially in the far side routes. I remember being immensly pulled into it and staying up until morning on school days to get more into it. The tension present in the far side routes and the parts about a locked-in Shiki growing slowly insane were immensly enjoyable. Additionally I really liked the maids (Kohaku>Hisui) and of course Akiha is best girl (Ciel a shit, Arc is ok). Near Side routes were ok but I remember Far Side routes just being far more interesting and engaging.
I would also take a while to talk about the usage of Nasu's worldbuilding and lore. I simply believe that it's far more effective when used sparingly, to imply a larger, hidden fantasy world in an otherwise grounded setting. I really like the way it is handled in both Tsukihime and KnK (less so in F/SN but I like that VN mostly because of Shirou/Archer anyways), and the focus on the high concept fantasy stuff was one of my main gripes with F/GO with the very beginning (the more high concept fantasy Nasu's stuff gets, and the more it focuses on that part, the dumber it comes off as, at least to me). In Tsuki, the high-powerlevel magical stuff is still present, however it's used far more sparingly and doesn't take away focus from the characters.

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>>23043555
Shinji route best route.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23043555
I've always really liked Shirou as a character in the VN. I found him really interesting and relatable, and his dynamic with Archer was by far my favourite part of F/SN

[Anonymous No.]

>>23065657
Why Akiha? I love her too and don’t even understand why, probably she is too perfect ..

[Anonymous No.]

Be honest /tmg/, when did you start hating CCC?

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>>23065657
that's kinda cu-
> Ciel a shit
oi, fuck you

[Anonymous No.]

>>23066096
That isn't an unpopular opinion at all.
At least not in the T-M fandom.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23067677
I think that an opinion with Anime only watchers, not having the chance of listening to all of Shirou inner dialogues really hurts his character.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23065657
>Akihafags

[Anonymous No.]

>>23068592
Come on, bastard, try to make complaints

[Anonymous No.]

how would you have tried to save Sacchin?

[Anonymous No.]

>>23067658
after I played it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23066096
>and his dynamic with Archer was by far my favourite part of F/SN

Why was Shirou's dynamic with the heroines not as interesting as his dynamic with the male characters?

[Anonymous No.]

>>23069703
what didn't you like about ccc?

[Anonymous No.]

>>23069707
The most interesting part was basically his dynamic with himself in 2 versions. Other than Archer, Kotomine is a great character, no more interesting dynamics beyond those.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23069835
>Issei
>Shinji
>Zouken
>Lancer
>Gil

Much more interesting dynamics than Rin and Sakura.

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>>23069716
it's easier to list what I liked:
>andersen was a cool servant
>bb is ok but ONLY as a gag character
>music was ok sometimes
>servant bonding was fine,
>same with some master/servant relationship of npcs like gawain and leo, and karna and jinako.
>npcs masters were fine except for rin and rani, they were just obnoxious as usual with their shitty sex jokes.
>like the utena rip off cut screens of each chapter
That's it. I disliked everything else.

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>>23069845
> Issei
boring af, though I admit I might be biased, because I kinda hate the disciplinary character type
> Shinji
would be good, if we saw Shinji's good side, but alas, it's limited to Hollow Ataraxia
> Zouken
Literally none whatsoever.
Kirei in their brief encounter had a better dynamic with Zouken than Shirou in the entirety of the VN
> Lancer
not as good as in HA, but ye it was baller
> Gil
doesn't go much beyond
> "REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE FAKER"
granted, AUO is a pretty awful character in FSN

[Anonymous No.]

Everything is just so right about it. I like how separate it has been from the Fate universe with new main characters and story that have nothing to do with the three families

[Anonymous No.]

>>23066630
She has the best design out of all the girls in my eyes, even if her neck was sometimes distracting.
I found her characterization in Far Side routes to be very endearing and overall I just really like her personality. The composed girl that does her best to be strong and dependable while inside she's loving and protecting. Her route was also by far my favourite, those endings were heart-rending.
I wanted to also write something about my overall love for imoutos, but I've had a realization. Looking at the timeline, I actually have no idea if I like Akiha more because she's an imouto, or if I started liking Imoutos because I liked Akiha so much.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23063706
>FGO became.

only because it become immensely popular, otherwise fgo would be just another closed spinoff game, or at best a LN series like APO after they cancelled the MMO

[Anonymous No.]

>>23070711
why was FGO so successful?

[Anonymous No.]

>>23071323
Because degeneracy is rife.

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>>23063564
You pretty much have the same view of the show as I do.

Kara no Kyoukai, Tsukihime, Fate/stay night and hollow ataraxia were gold.

Fate/zero, Fate/Extra, and Fate/Extra CCC were great.

Then Apocrypha happened and I knew the series was fucked. I stayed with it however. I didn't like Sieg or Jeanne but I didn't have the seething hatred of her that a lot of other people did.

Then FGO and Extella hit and the series went completely off the rails full bullshit.

As bad as Apocrypha was though, NOTHING could have prepared me for how horribly Nasu would butcher classic FSN characters in FGO

[Anonymous No.]

>>23036326
SOUL

[Anonymous No.]

>>23036326
I want to protect Akiha!

[Anonymous No.]

Out of curiosity, how old are you fucks?

[Anonymous No.]

>>23071481
21

Post your favorite scenes too. I'm curious about this.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23071481
>>23071594
22

[Anonymous No.]

>>23071481
>>23071594
21
... Well, Drinking Dreaming Moon, or Warm Afternoon Nap, or Eclipse, or V/V and Godo's goodbye. One of those four.

[Anonymous No.]

>Anime Japan is cancelled
RIP HF stage. It's just one week before the movie's release day so i'm not sure if they will still held it at AJ later

[Anonymous No.]

>>23071481
>>23071481
21.
Prologue and epilogue of Tsukihime are already my favourites, so I'll choose the next best thing.
I would pick something out of Mahoyo, but that would be disingenuous, being an EoP and all.

[Anonymous No.]

What happened to the old people? Did they all just kill themselves?

[Anonymous No.]

>>23071705
They were able to let go and not see the cancer that has befallen TM.
The people a few years younger wouldn't understand /tmg/.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23071716
That being said, the oldfags are very diverse.
Few of them would have this same feeling about the situation.
Some like the situation, some are VN/anime/manga guys who hold no real ties to a particular thing, some have moved on to different interests.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23071481
>>23071594
27 but I only got into TM around 2016.
>tfw have never actually been excited for a TM release
>>23071716
Seeing the downfall of a franchise you love happen in real time would get most to abandon it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23070327
>even if her neck was sometimes distracting
Whatever could you be talking about, Nii-san?

[Anonymous No.]

>>23071481
>>23071594
20
I loved everything about FHA even if the story dragged a bit in the first half but the final half is in my opinion, is the best part of Nasu's works
Avenger, Caren, Bazett, and Illya are the best parts of FSN and you cannot change my mind
Still think Tsukihime is better than FSN though

[Anonymous No.]

>>23072011
I'd wager most of us here right now are late joiners (2013 myself). While Fate itself as a franchise surged in popularity, everything else was left in the dust and forgotten. Year after year, the discussion was lesser, with non-FGO related content fading from an instantly recognizable position into obscurity.
By the time we got here, the light had already gone out. The age of heroes was over, all that was left to us was the dimnishing returns of a decaying franchise.
>>23072020
I love Akiha but some of her sprites are just less graceful than others.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23072011
>Seeing the downfall of a franchise you love happen in real time would get most to abandon it.

Why does /tmg/ vilify Nasu?

[Anonymous No.]

>>23071594
>>23071698
>Prologue and epilogue of Tsukihime are already my favourites

Why?

[Anonymous No.]

>>23072082
>everything else was left in the dust and forgotten.

Not true. Old TM works are so good it still brings discussion about it a decade after

[Anonymous No.]

>>23072106
Yes, thankfully, but the amount of discussion has been steadily going down all the time.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23072094
Because Aoko is precious.
I'm in a Catch-22, Aoko is the only reason why I'm still here. In this messed up situation.
But at the same time, I would feel crap if I never found her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23063570
>You got to enjoy the T-M fandom at its prime and I didn’t.
>completely lost their motivation to make new projects, produce DDD, Girls' Work, new Tsukihime, etc
>just sucking Fate's cow tit making retarded trash like Extra, Illiya Prism, reincarnating Prototype, etc

I love both TH and F/SN, but Type-Moon uses F/SN for milking because it was their most successful work.

TM's fujoshi goods are, right now, selling a lot better than their otaku merchandise

[Anonymous No.]

w-what did they mean by this bros?

[Anonymous No.]

>>23072166
I just hope they moved on.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23065657
>What I've been bitching about for all those years is just me being bitter about T/M focusing on the kind of stories and content that don't appeal to me personally; and that with the immense success of that direction the company has little reason to create the kind of content I liked.

I don't see why people are so surprised by this. Nasu came out and said that Mahoyo wasn't intended to be a humongous medium dominating phenomenon like Fate. We knew it was his first story, you should have expected it to be shitty.

Reminder that the problem with Mahoyo was that it didn't have "story" or thematic like FSN or Tsukihime.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23072082
>we
form your own opinion sheepboy

[Anonymous No.]

What I want to know is what TM will do once fgo dies.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23072274
Retire

[Anonymous No.]

>>23072206
>We knew it was his first story, you should have expected it to be shitty.
So you haven't read it, cool anon.
>Reminder that the problem with Mahoyo was that it didn't have "story" or thematic like FSN or Tsukihime.
And this is going full retard.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23072206
Dunno why you're bringing up Mahoyo specifically as a response to this. I've not referenced it even in passing, nor have I read it since I don't read moon.
As for it being surprising or not, it's already been out for a year when I read my first TM work. There was nothing surprising because by the time I fkund out about Mahoyo it already made its mark. Hopefully it'll get translated before I learn moon.
Curious response overall anon, but I honestly don't know how it connects to my post. My gripe wasn't with Mahoyo underperforming, but with FGO dominating.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23070327
Same bro, we, little sister fans, are very few and can only squeeze the ranks protecting our flat love. Has Akiha changed your attitude towards girls and their types?
>>23071594
22

[Anonymous No.]

Tsukihime R CG for ants

[Anonymous No.]

>>23071481
>>23071594
22

[Anonymous No.]

commemorative illustrations from HF phase
https://twitter.com/lightning446/status/1233003197163196419

[Anonymous No.]

>>23071594
23
Tie between pic related and “I like Kotomine Kirei” from the end of HF.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23071481
20

[Anonymous No.]

>>23072274
Gachas are here to stay forever.

[Anonymous No.]

>Case Files mats is scanned
yay

[Anonymous No.]

>>23073490
I like how people were hyping this up lmao

[Anonymous No.]

>>23073490
>>23074960
Yeah, what the hell? I thought people were saying there were a bunch of pictures of Arcueid. Instead it looks like it's one tiny ass CG tucked away in the corner so no one notices it

[Anonymous No.]

>>23074960
Dude the remake is just around the corner!!!!!

[Anonymous No.]

How much has the storyline changed in recent anime and movies? As I understand it, they added there some scenes that were not in vn, removed the internal dialogs, is that so?

[Anonymous No.]

>>23071481
35

[Anonymous No.]

>>23076041
> 2k15 was 5 years ago

[Anonymous No.]

>>23075919
If you want a perfect example for how the anime and VN are different, UBW anime doesn't actually end in Fuyuki with the Rin and Shirou classroom scene, leaving it to the reader to consider how things will actually turn out.

Instead the entire final episode is anime original and mostly takes place in london, with Shirou walking around in the clocktower, Luvia showing up and having a fucking wrestling match with Rin, then Shirou goes to visit the tourist trap "king arthur's grave" to drop off flowers, and then it cuts even further into the future to show shirou walking around in some arabic shithole desert.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23075919
Removing Kirei and Illya scenes from HF because "it's supposed to be a sequel to Zero".

[Anonymous No.]

>>23076819
>Instead the entire final episode is anime original and mostly takes place in london, with Shirou walking around in the clocktower, Luvia showing up and having a fucking wrestling match with Rin, then Shirou goes to visit the tourist trap "king arthur's grave" to drop off flowers, and then it cuts even further into the future to show shirou walking around in some arabic shithole desert.

Written by Nasu

It's a rough summary of Nasu's extended script for 25. Notable cuts and changes include how Shirou first met Luvia through saving her from an assassin, the fact that Rin and Shirou were supposed to head off to a party just before the end credits, and of course the whole bit with the Wasteland scene at the end.

The cuts they made mostly seem reasonable. They only had 24 minutes and I could easily see this script pushing the show 10 minutes longer, if not more.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23076819
>>23077306
The only bad thing about the epilogue was no kiss and maybe how Shirou still called Rin "Tohsaka" even though they have been dating for like 2 years

[Anonymous No.]

>>23072094
>>23072130
This event (especially in the form of the orginal CGs from Tsuki) has a special place in my kokoro.

I'm afraid of knocking it out of place by thinking about it too hard, but I also want to use it as inspiration one day.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23073490
They will include all that stuff from the Type-Moon members staff wall to Fate15th booklet by the way

[Anonymous No.]

>>23076836
>"it's supposed to be a sequel to Zero
I do not understand how zero contradicts this scene in hf?

[Anonymous No.]

I can barely see it.
Those 5 pixels are still better than TMace art though.

[Anonymous No.]

"Day of the Decisive Battle" from Case Files material
- Waver: Standing with the king at that ocean.
- Gray: To warm that palm (this event probably refers to when Waver took her out of the Blackmore graveyard to the CT. But the wording is slightly ambiguous as to whose hand is being warmed. It's probably meant to be both)
- Reines: Coronation as a Lord
- Flat: A stand-alone watching over the vast network sea (stand-alone is the computing term and the network sea seems to refer to humanity. This may be reiterating the stuff in SF but with a technological edge, hinting his true nature)
- Svin: Simply running through the prairie (so he does lose to his beast side?)
- Melvin: Blood and timbre (sounds like in the future there will be a moment where he plays until he dies)
- Adashino: A moonlit forest/a forest under the moon (feels the Tsuki vibes here)
- Doctor Heartless: Spirit Tomb (Spirit Tomb Albion is the setting for the last volume of CF and where Dr. Heartless attempted to make his plan come into fruition)
- Faker: Crimson battle field (where she died in her previous life no doubt)
- Luvia: Decisive battle to find the Jewel Magecraft King (probably a battle with Rin)
- Touko: a snowy school building (Mahoyo's climax)
- Atram: a certain large Far East ritual
- Caules: The thunderous, blasted great tree.
- Olga: Outside of the universe/cosmos (宙の外 is a Nasuism. The title of a DDD short story and manga about Kanata fighting a NEET who can make universes. The term has also been used to signify things outside the human awareness cosmos. Another point for the Olga related Alien God theory)
- Yvette: Masquerade
- Zepia: Night of Wallachia (the day he discovered the NoW stuff in a different worldline i think)
- Lord Eulyphis: the final night (probably his final night. for a man who spent his life measuring and categorizing spirits, having to confront the fact he himself is about to become nothing more than one of those spirits would be terrifying)
- Trambellio: Folklore Horde Market Brishisan (Brishisan refers to Folklore faculty, they collect artifacts not of this world like the Silver Key as mentioned in Salem)
- Lord Valualeta: Phantom Museum

[Anonymous No.]

>>23050046
I live for this feel.

[Anonymous No.]

Is Aoko just a better version than Rin ?

[Anonymous No.]

>>23071481
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[Anonymous No.]

*I'm about to beat a kids ass and then go play melty blood*

[Anonymous No.]

>>23020483

That frustration only becomes inspiration to me.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23007464

>How can people think this is good?

I can list so many reasons why I like it compared to what you just said. So what? you didn't like the last poster as well?

[Anonymous No.]

>>23081001
>I can list so many reasons why I like it compared to what you just said.
We can also list infinite reasons why that screenshot + what you said proves you don't belong here. Go back to wanking Zero and modern Takeuchi in /a/ or something.
>you didn't like the last poster as well?
Don't ask stupid questions, you know the answer to this.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23080848
AAAAAAH, why is he so great bros?

[Anonymous No.]

>>23078668
Zero babies already know who Kirei and Illya are so the scenes in HF that served to introduce and explain them are redundant. It's retarded, I know, but that's what Nasu wanted.

[Anonymous No.]

>>23081239
> redundant
fuck no.
I started with Zero and I didn’t understand shit about Kirei without scenes like Death of a Saint.

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>>23081016

>Go back to wanking Zero

The fuck dude? I'm not from that 2010 era of fucking anime secondaries.

and modern Takeuchi in

Bitch, I literally fapped to Arc cg back sprite in the Tsukihime bitch and out of all them I fucking love the metly blood version of them.

Holy fucking shit the wanking zero trauma or era shit still in effect. I fucking choose that because of the smirk.

>Don't ask stupid questions, you know the answer to this.

Well sorry that I can't look at the previous TYPE-MOON 4chan thread.

Now, I understand why you have those assumptions but god damn.

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>>23080114
Aoko is the original of that archetype, her lineage through TM characters is big.
And none have come close to her, Aoko is the best, this is irrefutable.

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>>23082138
Aoko isn't even a Tsundere in comparison to Rin. That's how much better Aoko is.

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>>23082287
Absolutely.

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CBC with Oddyseus and Penelope?

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>>23071481
>>23071594
25

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>>23082034
child

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>>23007101
Anyone happen to have a save that's around chapter 12 when Aoko starts rushing at Touko?

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>>23071594
27, you already posted my favorite scene. It makes me feel nostalgic.

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>>23071481
19
I dont have a pic but my favorite moment was when shiki realized that roa only saw the death of life in Arc's route.

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I wonder what kuro's farts smell like

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>>23084761
Begone nonce.

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>>23077306
I don't care if it's written by Nasu, he's been writing garbage for 8 years

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>>23085288
Its crazy when you think about it even mahoyo was not something completely new since he wrote it way back, so what was the last good thing he wrote ?

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>>23085448
>what was the last good thing he wrote ?
Clock Tower 2015

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>>23085814
This is true.
Shows what the good timeline is all about, the one timeline that should be getting all the love.

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>>23086200
I've always loved it (though personally i really like Nasu's short story), before Nasu made that statement about FGO and Tsuki/Mahoyo timeline in 2015, shortly after FGO's launch and more than one year after CT2015 got released. It's kinda underrated i think.