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So Mokou is immortal, but to what extent?
Is there anything that could possibly kill her?
I can't imagine her surviving an event such as a supernova or the like.
I mean if her body is completely destroyed how can she possibly live?

>> No.2283904

Computer game.

>> No.2283905

I liked the radiation picture better.

>> No.2283923

Is that some over nine thousand hours in tripxp

>> No.2283933

>>2283896
I imagine she'd die if you killed her dead enough.

>> No.2283937
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Mokou will live forever,
After humanity is dead forgotten,
After the stars burn out and expire,
Until nothing else aware lives.

Except for Kaguya.

>> No.2283940

>>2283905
My thumbnail cache is messed up.

>>2283904
A discussion is better than what's on the front page of /jp/ right now.
Porn, more porn, Bedwetting, Japanese bird cooking noodles, etc.

>> No.2283945

Batman could finish her permanently given enough prep time.

>> No.2283948

nice secure trip miles, but have you read your SICP today?

>> No.2283957

>>2283948
Not yet, I am still pirating it.

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There is no living
that can stay alive
without a head or
without a heart.

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Ahh, being alive is a such a wonderful...

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this a wacky tripcode thread?

>> No.2283999 [DELETED] 

>>2283992
test

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>>2283896
Apparently, according to ZUN, Mokou and Kaguya's immortality gives them the ability to regenerate from nothing, and can even reappear elsewhere.

For instance, strap on some concrete boots and toss Kaguya in the ocean. She'll just keep drowning, so immortality will be useless. So instead, she will reappear back on land with a new body.

So toss Mokou into a super nova, and she'll probably regenerate on some nearby alien world that can sustain human life. And take it over with her flaming powers.

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Everyone she's ever loved will grow old and die.

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tripfriend thread?

>> No.2284017

>>2284007
Thanks for the info, but that kind of marks the end of my thread then, doesn't it?

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;_;

>> No.2284027 [DELETED] 

>>2284020
oh god ;_;

>> No.2284029

>>2284015
Cool novelty trips, bro

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>>2284017
Fuck you, miles. We're trying to have a Mokou thread here.

>> No.2284035

>>2284015
Add this
!LLLLLLLLL = #*Tp0tp8[

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How can she ever be friends with anyone? Everyone she cares about will die. If not for Kaguya she would have gone insane long, long ago.

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>>2284020

This just in: Immortality sucks.

>> No.2284048

>>2284035
its there bro

>> No.2284050

>>2284046
I'd love to have immorality, but not the kind Mokou and Kaguya have.
The immorality I am thinking of is the type we can actually achieve with science, where you don't die from aging. In fact, you wouldn't age at all.

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>> No.2284061

>>2284015
I've got some faggots if you want

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>>2284046
Mokou is strong. She can bear it.

>> No.2284073

>>2284050
Because old age sure is the leading cause of death in modern world.

>> No.2284074

>>2284061
thanks bro, i already have a few tho somewhere

>> No.2284076

>>2284061
do want

>> No.2284078

>>2284050
Nah. I'd love theirs. If I had it, the first thing I would do is go out and kill every single one of you pseudo-immortals. THERE CAN ONLY BE ONE.

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Mokou lives off the land.

>> No.2284084

>>2284073
If you kept your young body you wouldn't have a higher chance of cancer and all that.
There are illnesses that are easier to get when your body starts to become worn down you know.

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>>2284078
Are you strong/insane enough to deal with the loneliness of having everyone you've ever known die?

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Delicious poison

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>> No.2284100

So what about radiation poisoning? Would she get all of the fun effects like hair loss and organ failure without ever dying, or would she die and get a new body? Would her new body still be irradiated?

>> No.2284109

>>2284084
There is plenty of shit that can kill you that is unrelated to age.

If you had a body that can regenerate you would be immune to most of it.

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>>2284100
She has perfect health, so yeah.

>> No.2284118

>>2284109
But at some point I'd want to die.

>>2284100
Their bodies would become so damaged by the radiation that they would probably just get a new one.

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>>2284050
>>2284078
ITT we don't know what immortal means.

>>2284045
I don't think that's something that would drive you insane, it would just make you very sad, for a while.

Anyway, Mokou is a cool girl.

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>>2284065

It's not so much about being strong, as being strong for a long time.
Forever is a very long time

For example, start out by comparing one year to infinity.
Next, compare 10 years to infinity.
100 years to infinity.
1000 years to infinity.
10000 years to infinity.
100000 years to infinity
One million years to infinity and so forth.

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Is this world hell?

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Is she still human?

>> No.2284155

Mokou smokes two packs of unfiltered cigarettes a day. Supernovas are nothing to her

>> No.2284160

>>2284127
Scientifically immortality would be to stop the breakdown of our cells which cause us to age.

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>>2284155
Image for you

>>2284127
Humans are not designed to live forever. I don't think our psyches are capable of handling long life. In either case, in CiLR 4 Mokou said she would have gone crazy if not for the joy of killing Kaguya over and over.

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I could post images of Mokou all day.

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>>2284184
Please do

>> No.2284216 [DELETED] 

>>2284088
See the thing is about immortality, the body is eternal so is the soul, but the mind is just as fickle and changing as any one of us. And the wonderful thing about it, or sad if you want to think of it that way is eventually you forget your loved ones, your past, even your personality changes more often then stars fade. Keeps you from getting bored I can honestly tell you that much.

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>>2284208
Sure

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>>2284088
See the thing is about immortality, the body is eternal so is the soul, but the mind is just as fickle and changing as any one of us. And the wonderful thing about it, or sad if you want to think of it that way is eventually you forget your loved ones, your past, even your personality changes more often then stars fade. Keeps you from getting bored I can honestly tell you that much.

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>>2284216
Anonymous speaks from experience

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>>2284155

Makes you wonder what she'll do in a couple of tens of thousand years when tobacco is likely either extinct or evolved.

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>> No.2284239

This thread could benefit from pictures of Mokou farting.

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>>2284227
FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF-
forgot my image

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You know what would make immortality great? If you were capable of wiping your memory (or at least parts of it) ever hundred years or so to prevent boredom/insanity/depression.

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>>2284229
Probably cut her finger off and smoke that too

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>>2284258
If you could erase your past like that, you wouldn't be yourself anymore. I would rather die.

>> No.2284268

>>2284258

But then you'd never know that you're immortal.

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>>2284268
That's why I added "or parts of it".

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The nice thing about my Touhou directory is a quarter of them are Mokou so I can just page anywhere in there and pick one.

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*shiku shiku*

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I hate Kaguya

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>>2284266
But without forgetting the past how long will it take until what you think of as yourself becomes lost in the endless sea of memories?

>> No.2284331

>>2284306

NO MOKOU SHE'S NOT IMMORTAL LIKE YOU

KEIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIINEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

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>> No.2284347

>>2284330

The best argument I've heard against this is you HAVE to forget things.

If you DIDN'T forget things, your brain would eventually get so clogged with electrons that you would have a tremendous headache before your head starts cooking itself.

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>>2284331
Keine can live for short periods of time without a hat.

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>> No.2284360

>>2284014

Well THAT doujin was a disappointment.

But then, it's Sekitou.

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>>2284360
I liked it, but I'm a fag for Mokou so I'm biased.

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>> No.2284391

>>2283959
>>2283968
>>2283973
>>2283980
DEMOUR402's stuff is such an editing hell, why would you want to do that for free? But I did enjoy this.

>>2284136
>>2284142
>>2284149
>>2284152
I enjoyed this.

>>2283937
I did not enjoy this.

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>>2284396

>> No.2284406

Yo

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>>2284391
We owe a lot to the translators and editors. I would have a lot less to obsess about without those devoted few. It's thankless work, but I think they know how much we appreciate it.

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Bread n' Butter

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>> No.2284431

beheading.

>> No.2284432

>>2284347
Exactly. Thus, even if you're immortal, forgetting things is natural.

Forgetting doesn't happen as a result of cellular destruction or degeneration. If it was, only the elderly and the congenitally ill would forget anything. Rather, our brains tend to discard data we don't access very much.

A Hourai immortal like Mokou wouldn't be in any danger of forgetting who she is. That's a part of herself, and it gets used every day. Rather, the small things - how many times she's cooked yakitori, how many times she's looked up at the sky, how many times she's thought to herself about killing Kaguya, etc. - these are what would be discarded.

I see Mokou's memories of Keine not fading for a long time.

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Is there a Mokousmirk? If it exists, I'm amazed that I don't seem to have it.

>> No.2284438

Could Mokou beat ORT? xD

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>>2284434

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>> No.2284445

>>2284438
I'm sorry, I couldn't read that correctly over the din of your insignificance.

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>>2284440
Shit yes!

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>>2284445

>> No.2284464

>>2284438

No, as ORT is likewise an immortal being.

She can't beat Mr. Immortal or Kaguya either.

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>>2284464
>Mr. Immortal
>Mr.

>> No.2284470

>>2284451
I thought nobody liked smirks

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>>2284470
I like Mokou.

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>> No.2284485

>>2284477
So you don't like any other, hmmmm. Makes me reconsider things over

>> No.2284486

Image limit. GG, guys.

>> No.2284488

>>2284469

Th'fuck you got against Mr. Immortal

>> No.2284489

>>2284486
But there are only 102 images

>> No.2284494

>>2284489
I'm too tired to start another thread. I've got enough images for at least six threads, though.

>> No.2284503

>>2284494
I could just go to danbooru you know?

>> No.2284511

>>2284503
You do that. Let me know if you find anything awesome.

>> No.2284552

>>2284511
Well, you certainly can't find Mokousmirk there

>> No.2284577

Mokou's organs are invincible.
Her body cannot be destroyed, anything cut off will be regenerated.
Easy.

>> No.2284609

>>2284577

>Mokou's organs are invincible.

No they aren't.

>Her body cannot be destroyed,

Yes it can.

>anything cut off will be regenerated.

This is because her SOUL is invincible, and it reincarnates the body.

Hourai Elixir + Soul can create a body from nothing, so although a supernova would completely incinerate every cell in her body, she'll reform.

>> No.2284666

>>2284007
>>according to ZUN, Mokou and Kaguya's immortality gives them the ability to regenerate from nothing, and can even reappear elsewhere.

Where is this said? I recall in IN it was stated that Moku can MAYBE regen from a hair and thats it. Tossing Mokou in a super nova would kill him.

>> No.2284673

>>2284609

Shiki can cut the line of her soul.

>> No.2284681

Does anyone remember the name of that sad doujin where Mokou reminds herself of Keine by a type of flowers... I think...?

>> No.2284683

>>2284673

No.

The soul as it is is unending. (No lines.)

The soul as it is affected by the Hourai Elixir is completely invincible. (Cannot be touched.)

>> No.2284687

>>2284666
>Tossing Mokou in a super nova would kill him.
>Touhou
>Mokou
>Him
Wait, did I miss something?

>> No.2284688

>>2284681

Flower of Heaven.

>> No.2284701

>>2284687
Slip of tounge. I like mokou as a him so I call her him sometimes by mistake.

>> No.2284703

>Makes you wonder what she'll do in a couple of tens of thousand years when tobacco is likely either extinct or evolved.

That is when Mokou will snap. Tobacco withdrawal is a HELL of a thing.

Or she will learn to smoke weed, which will have proliferated.

>> No.2284709

>>2284688

Thanks!

>> No.2284740

>>2284703

She's not addicted.

She cannot develop addiction due to Hourai Elixir.

>> No.2284758

Would it even matter if the sun blew up? There's characters that can rewrite time. I'm sure someone can make a new sun.

>> No.2284768

>>2284758

>I'm sure someone can make a new sun.

Reiuji.jpg unpostable due to image limit.

>> No.2284770

>>2284740


One wonders why she smokes so habitually, then.

>> No.2284771

>>2284758
>sun
>blew up
Go learn some proper astrophysics

>> No.2284772

>>2284770

Something to do.

>> No.2284777

>>2284771

The sun shedding the majority of its layers can be a form of "blowing up".

If not, it going red giant is a literal "blowing up", merely not in the sense of an explosion.

>> No.2284784

>>2284170
>I don't think our psyches are capable of handling long life.

Not really, it's more that people fear being bored, running out of things to do and see. They have a drive since their life is limited. They assume they'll have a drive even after they do everything and then will be bored forever.

In reality, forgetting things will eventually allow them to keep living their lives over and over, and there's always things like competitive games and sports that will be different every time.

If someone was content with just being, then they wouldn't have a problem. I'd be content just to get up and post on 4chan every day. It's not like I think about time or lifespan here. It could be 1 year or 100. Same 10 threads about the same 3 things every day as usual.

>> No.2284794

>>2284777
No, you need some proper instruction on star development.

>> No.2284804

>>2284794


ITT: Anonymous pretends to know shit about Astronomy and Astrophysics

In before INTERNET DEGREES

>> No.2284814

>>2283896
Reimu could probably take her out of existance.

Flandre I think has the power to destroy things completely.

>> No.2284819

isn't immortality more about not dying of old age. Look at the elves for example

>> No.2284820

>>2284758
What would the Lunar Capital think of that?

>> No.2284821

>>2284804
I'm majoring physics, 3.7gpa.

>> No.2284824

>>2284814

>Flandre I think has the power to destroy things completely.

No.
She has the power to destroy any material.

Souls don't have a material.

Also, that would get her in HELLA shit with the Yama.
(And don't even get started on "killing the Yama".)

>> No.2284827

Can Shiki permakill Mokou?

>> No.2284835

>>2284819

Biological immortality and physical immortality are different things.

>>2284827

NO, fuck damn. She creates a new body each time and her soul doesn't have lines.

>> No.2284841

Mokou's body would have no concept of death (at least not a permanent one) and thus would display no lines or points.

>> No.2284845

>>2284821

And when I was younger, I taught mathematics at Cambridge University. I had coffee with Stephen Hawking, and he complemented me on my hair. He was able to walk, swim, and run back then.

>> No.2284852

>>2284841

This is true.

As she will never end, Shiki cannot actualize a "death".

>> No.2284856

Can Ryougi permakill Mokou?

>> No.2284858

>>2284758
Suki can make a new sun. Gather hydrogen and helium in one spot force of attraction ignites a chain reaction BAM new sun.

>> No.2284862

>>2284845

Why would Cambridge University accept vampires?

The Church should shut that heathenish place down.
In flames.

>> No.2284868

>>2284856

Mystic Eyes of Death Perception do not work on a being who has no Death to Perceive.

>> No.2284870

>>2284845
What the hell?
How is majoring physics and having a 3.7gpa unbelievable?
I happen to study a lot.

>> No.2284873

>>2284862

Rule 17: Don't roleplay - Roleplaying is retarded, if you want to roleplay, go somewhere else.

>> No.2284876

>>2284824

Speaking of which...

Not sure if it applies to Touhou, but the original "hell judges" (don't remember the Chinese name) are not immortal, but unkillable.
There is no way to kill one, but they eventually grow old and die of old age. Only their lifespan has to be measured in aeons rather than years or months, so it takes a while.
Read a lot of conflicting variations, though. Some versions of the story just say Yama is born with the world and dies with the world.

>> No.2284888

>>2284858
Which will take thousands of years to reach the main sequence

>> No.2284896

This thread is doing a lot better than I expected.

>> No.2284900

>>2284876
Yama?

>> No.2284910

>>2284900

Might be. I recall there being a different word for the "species". I may not recall correctly.

>> No.2284915

>>2284900

Shikieiki Yamaxanadu, final boss of Touhou 9, Phantasmagoria of Flower View.

Also boss of Komachi Onozuka, who is seen in Scarlet Weather Rhapsody.

>> No.2284932

>>2284888
Considering Suki can make black holes and white holes what makes you think she can't snap her fingers and make star just be compressing helium molecules?

>> No.2284940

Her name is Suika, goddamn.

>> No.2284948

>>2284940
Fuck you suki is my weeaboo pet name for her.

SPOILERS: SUKI MEANS LOVE.

>> No.2284953

>>2284758
6 can control nuclear fusion and fission. she made a goddamn star as her final spell card.

>> No.2284971

>>2284940
I thought they were refering to some obscure character not even from touhou, fuck, shame on them.

>> No.2284981

Shut up, none of you know how stars are made nor have even a basic knowledge of quantum physics, you make me sick with all your pseudo-science.

>> No.2284984

>>2284870
>study a lot.
>posting on 4chan
fucking lol

>> No.2284990

>>2284981

Doesn't stop Anon from pretending he knows shit that's way above his head and then acting as though his GPA means that he's a lauded astrophysicist instead of a know-nothing student.

>> No.2284998

>>2284984
It's Friday idiot

>> No.2285007

>>2284998
>study a lot.
>Doesn't study on weekends.
fucking lol

>> No.2285017

>>2284990
Seriously, how butthurt can you be?
I guess you just dropped out of college.
I'm a top student believe or not, the fact is not changing.
Second, I've said nothing that required greater knowledge on the topic, it's basic as fuck, yet some anons fail at understanding even that.

>> No.2285029

>>2285007
I certainly don't Friday night at 11PM and never have, I just come here at night.

>> No.2285030

>>2285017
Top students start with 4.

>> No.2285032

Cool, I'm also a physics major. Whenever I tell someone that and the name of the school I go to, people always say "wow, you're so smart". It's like having an epeen in real life.

>> No.2285053

>>2285032
That the old discussion of whether the university does influence in the amount of knowledge you have. It doesn't, it all depends on the individual.
Graduate courses however....

>> No.2285058

>>2285030
I guess you're right

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