/tmg/ - Type-Moon General

[Anonymous No.]

Discussion specifically regarding all things by Kinoko Nasu / TYPE-MOON.

Download Links:
>Complete TYPE-MOON PC Game Collection in Japanese
https://mega.nz/#F!BA4yHYoT!NwGVKj4q9Z1vnpKlYY-4UQ

>Kara no Kyoukai the Garden of sinners
Light novel (Japanese)
https://itazuraneko.neocities.org/shousetu/b/%E5%A5%88%E9%A0%88%E3%81%8D%E3%81%AE%E3%81%93_%E7%A9%BA%E3%81%AE%E5%A2%83%E7%95%8C/index.html
English translations by cokesakto
https://emptyboundaries.wordpress.com/2011/07/25/kara-no-kyokai-translations-2/
Kara no Kyoukai manga
https://nyaa.si/view/1187963
Kara no Kyoukai movie series
https://nyaa.si/view/264295

>Tsukihime
Tsukihime
https://mega.nz/#!6TBSSTbR!4O6JYv1dyyRw7GQeHJ4NIUYUTQ--tuy9H8s69HgL5lY
Tsukihime PLUS-DISC
https://nyaa.si/view/453758
Tsukihime Kagetsu Tohya
https://sukebei.nyaa.si/view/2502321
Tsukihime manga (Arcueid story line)
https://mega.nz/#F!dRwwAZrT!uxmDDlwDTu3bgo9QIKgSrQ

>Melty Blood
MELTY BLOOD PC Collection (updated 2018-05-30)
https://nyaa.si/view/1042489
MBAACC - Community Edition
https://mega.nz/#!6FUx2C6a!L2AxbiQzPHtgRI3YPHv4NZfi2EYS9RMeNHoSp6pAcFw
Melty Blood Manga (The first part, spanning volumes 1-6, follows the original Melty Blood storyline. "2nd ACT" spans volumes 7-9. Melty Blood X is based on MELTY BLOOD Drama CD: Rojiura Pyramid Night)
https://mega.nz/#F!syICRSJI!TeAS9ZVFSDQigguqxn_MwA
Melty Blood - Back Alley Alliance Nightmare Manga
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/16jgRv-WneCDBF324U_MFsuguPFTt2J0S

>Fate
Fate/stay night [Réalta Nua]
https://sukebei.nyaa.si/view/2725572
Fate/hollow ataraxia
https://sukebei.nyaa.si/view/2575055
Fate/Zero
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B-5XtCxJULf4YWZfSkZKWGc2S2M
Lord El-Melloi II's Case Files
Vol 1: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B13rmXgOUD7NdUV2NDR2bWo1clU
Vol 2: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1vQVafVYYmOiaXi-XHPhxdS24kMF4Avng/
Vol 3: https://mega.nz/#!vZRXUK5C!fBJsFvzRgETpbk9MQXunAmbtvz5qOuatJ_x7rJeVQa4
Fate/Strange Fake Light Novel
http://humbertozero.tumblr.com/post/150696689780/how-to-read-fatestrange-fake-light-novel-read

>Mahoutsukai no Yoru
Magician's Night: https://mega.nz/#F!YVkkhAjQ!Ggu2BS3MDfaofporByJsFw
English Patch: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1nUY3G5Z8tgBnfvELhbLiYhmLolDI2TwC/
French Patch: https://github.com/IDerr/mahoyo-french

Other works
>Angel Voice (A doujin anthology that contains the short novel "Notes." written by Nasu, and the manga "clowick canaan-vail" drawn by Takeuchi.)
http://www.mediafire.com/file/4w9jk2bwy8b0xsh/Angel_Notes.zip
>Fate/Apocrypha
https://fateapocryphathetranslation.wordpress.com/volume-1/pdf-and-epub-version-2/
>Fate/Prototype: Fragments of Sky Silver
https://mega.nz/#!aAsCybqb!WwnKiMn_HK9HqvA_myhLn5GM0yeAv8TTxyQsWWpqaGs
>Fire Girl
https://firegirlthetranslation.wordpress.com/
>Today’s Menu for the Emiya Family
https://nyaa.si/view/1161603
>Tsuki no Sango: Coral of the Moon
https://www.mediafire.com/?uq1eqhccbxhxktx

Other links
>Beast's Lair, the Type-Moon forum
forums.nrvnqsr.com
>Encyclopedia of Type Moon
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B49crU71miHObWRvV2tDUllYTjQ
>Fate/complete material II Character material
https://pastebin.com/Zjy1Sj6d
>Fate Franchise Loseless Soundtracks
https://mega.nz/#F!OQwx1DYA!1c0Dkm1VfOPpthg6etuU4g
>mirrormoon
http://mirrormoon.org/
>TMdict, a light-weight, multi-lingual TYPE-MOON glossary
tmdict.com/
>Tsuki-kan (comprehensive record of real-world statements, interviews, Q&As, feature articles, etc)
tsukikan.com/
>Tsukihime Archives
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1NBqMPjBkGiNk9vIgOtPyjNnpxeH5fmHI
>Tsukihime doujins from 2008
https://mega.nz/#!fHgSVb5L!EPDHKU2KHLdjW1bM2b0-VV7WzrA9xPqrLnJTu0AkwyY
>Tsukihime Laboratory
http://lab.vis.ne.jp/tsukihime/
>Tsukihime Music Collection
https://nyaa.si/view/1090729
>TYPE-MOON 10th Anniversary Phantasm translation
http://heavens-feel.com/type-moon_10_anniversary_phantasm_translation.html
>Type-Moon Mega folders
https://mega.nz/#F!tBRTDDLT!6-uk9SmrvHKLFYU_3QTwgQ
https://mega.nz/#F!IEgnySDK!wvEo43UGmHFEKC1JBVykGw
>TM Mega Pastebin
https://pastebin.com/7W19Hevb

Previous thread: >>22582430

[Anonymous No.]

>>22623019
Can't wait for Arc and Aoko to get added to FGO.

[Anonymous No.]

So what's the highest quality Blu-Ray remux or re-encoding of Fate/Zero?

[Anonymous No.]

>>22623651
What

[Anonymous No.]

Whats the verdict on Fate/Type Redline?

[Anonymous No.]

>>22623858
shit/10

[Anonymous No.]

Fighting a Grail War in Mars in the cramped domes and the barren wastelands, straining all your od because the environment scarcely has any armour and being unable to sleep because of the constant fear of Assassins while your NP dumping servant barely managed to maintain physical form because if of the lack of magical power, always paranoid about oxygen and water shortages and dust storms and meteors, while idiots play with the connection to the root risking a demonic invasion from a realm like hell, turning your Servant into a Grand Servant to protect human life on mars!

Rip and Tear!

[Anonymous No.]

>>22623858
Personally, I think it’s fucking awesome. The only problem I had with it is that the MC feels a bit too much like shirou (as in the magecraft in his family is gone and he has a single ability that seems weak but will probably end up strong by the end) but it’s only chapter 1 so he might get better.

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>>22623858
I personally find it crappy they are following the story super closely but it deviates at the masters. I swear to god if Artoria is still Nobus master but they took out Kohaku. Other than that I don’t think a fate manga has had such a strong start in a while so I’ll keep my eye on it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22623858
Just read it. I'm having fun, but I'm not gonna get my hopes up. At best I want it to be "okay".

[Anonymous No.]

>>22623019
Good OP.
>>22623439
Bad post.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22623439
Burn

[Anonymous No.]

>>22623858
Nothing worth mentioning. It's ok and that's it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22623439
They already mentioned it's not happening in an interview.

[Anonymous No.]

from the Fate exhibition

[Anonymous No.]

>>22627780
Cute

[Anonymous No.]

Redline has one fucking chapter out. Some of y'all are rating it like its complete. Give it a couple chapters and we'll have a solid verdict on at least its pacing and story structure.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22627793
>>22623858
I forgot to add, but also why the fuck you asking on a fucking verdict yet? You can read the chapter yourself, stop taking others' opinions as your own or the majority opinion for validation.

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>>22627793
>>22627812
We technically already know the story. The first chapter itself was similar the only major changes is the time travel(I’m honestly convinced it’s not time travel) , Okitas summoning and the changing of masters. The original story itself is actually kinda serious it is just drawn in Chibi and has some gags thrown in.

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>>22628712
I’m calling it being a dream.

[Anonymous No.]

Is it worth reading theMahoutsukai no Yoru chapters that are translated or waiting, or at this point should I just hold out for the whole thing?

[Anonymous No.]

>>22629475
You should know japanese because the first 7 chapters are done by somebody who doesn't.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22629503
uh oh

[Anonymous No.]

>>22629475
You should hold out.
>>22629503
The first 7 chapters are already being retranslated by the team thats doing the rest. Currently, they are a little under halfway through chapter 2.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22629758
Thanks!

[Anonymous No.]

After LB5, I understand the hints of the one who fucked the world in Extra was probably Marisbilly gave in LE. Animusphere magic can control the celestial bodies movement and use their mana. That too includes the Earth. Although requires specific models to work, it's not far fetched to assume there was a ritual that went crazy and fucked the planet.

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Is Lostbelt Eodime really stronger than Zelretch?

[Anonymous No.]

>>22631634
No.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22631634
Old Zelretch or prime Zelretch with Kaleidoscope?

[Anonymous No.]

>A downpour of magical bullets made of light.
>A howl or shriek. Or perhaps it was a scream.
>The magecraft that was accompanied with enough magical energy to rival a shot from Artemis crushed the Servants. This was a magecraft system that used celestial bodies themselves as a "circuit."
>In the depths of the astrology that the Chaldeans, founders of reading the stars, had passed down to the current era was this ultimate magecraft. Uniting magical energy that fills the earth; the magical energy that fills the firmament; and finally the heavens, the magical energy that fills the cosmos, a starry miracle as if forcing planets into sequence.

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Holmes:
>We could only get audio... no, even the audio wasn't clear. It might be because of the nonstandard high-thaumaturgy that occurred - manipulating celestial bodies and dropping meteorites. In those three minutes, all instruments ceased functioning. No one in the Border could see what happened.

Da Vinci:
>.....

Gordolf:
>Muuuuu, whatever. Anyway Guda, Mash Kyrielight! Return at once! You've been through a terrible battle and need a vital check.

Mash:
>Y-yes. Understood. Let's go Master. My thoughts are all in a jumble.

Gordolf:
>Good, you've returned. The Servants are terribly wounded but it's good you're all okay. But, problem is Kirschtaria. No doubt, he uses magecraft that annihilates Servants. Is that possible for a human!?

Holmes:
>It's not. There are a few exceptions but there's no way a magus can defeat a Servant, a hero with many achievements.
>And even such an exceptional existence can be countered. But destroying multiple Servants like it was twisting a baby's hand is not the work of man. I've read through the reports on the Crypters. Of course, Kirschtaria is a genius but if he had such a gigantic amount of magical energy he would be receive a sealing designation.
[...] (this part is just an explanation about SD anyway)

Holmes:
>Thank you for the explanation Mr. Gordolf. Well, that's why if you have enough magical energy to destroy a Servant there would already be records detailing such things. But it isn't the case here. Da Vinci, do you have impressions to add?

Da Vinci:
>A...Aa. Impressions, huh. Yes, I do. That magecraft was the fountainhead of astrology. That was the "primeval form" of astronomical magecraft which temporarily takes control of the planets, the sky, and the cosmos.

Gordolf:
>Hn? Astronomical magecraft may be the Animusphere's topic, but that's a method that predicts the future or surveys the planet, no? It can't create a cataclysm like that. Technical adviser, did you hit your head?

Da Vinci:
>I wish. For me... uhhh, no, Kirschtaria's magecraft was just obvious. It was "ideal magecraft" older than the Age of Gods, when the planet, heavens, and cosmos were full of magical energy. Humanity has turned to a consumption civilization. With the development of civilization all magecraft has deteriorated, its scope shrunk. Astrology is the same. That's right, the original astrology was about borrowing the power of the stars.

Holmes:
>The magical energy that rotated the "planet," filled the "sky," and poured down from the "heavens." In the world of ancient Greece, the sky and the heavens above were different layers. Of course, the quality of magical energy of each layer was different too. The heavens were the law that governed the cosmos. Without it, it would be impossible to control celestial bodies. Artificially place planets in a series and use them as a gigantic magic circuit. It wouldn't be an exaggeration to say a magus could prepare the largest magic circuit in all of human history. Surely, creating a planetary roar with an astrological conjunction would send meteors hurtling down. Seeing is believing, so I have no other choice but to conclude thus. Kirschtaria Wodime. The zenith of humans with greater power than this Lostbelt's King.

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>>22631767
Meunière:
>Un. If that's the case, he's excessively inconsistent. If he was such a god-like genius why didn't he already conquer the Clocktower a long time ago? I guess I just don't understand why he would come to Chaldea.

Gordolf:
>Umu, exactly. The jealous viewpoint of an average man. A good reference point Moony-kun.

Holmes:
>Indeed, there would be one reason he affiliated himself with Chaldea. Everything was to create this situation. Before the world became blank, he was talented but not almighty. Why? The state of the planet was fixed. You couldn't reproduce astronomical magecraft. No matter how great the magical formula the Animusphere hid was, you couldn't use it in the current environment. That's why he created this Atlantic Lostbelt. The Grecian view of the cosmos and the magecraft theory of the Animusphere are too compatible. In this Grecian world during the Age of Gods, his astronomical magecraft is close to godly. No, it's a mystery that surpasses the gods.

Gordolf:
>What? Management consultant, are you saying that making the planet blank was Kirschtaria's goal?

Holmes:
>That I do not know. Kirschtaria Wodime's power in the Atlantic Lostbelt is tremendous, but that's probably setting the table for someone. Probably the "Alien God." Kirschtaria who handles astronomical magecraft is the optimal believer for the "Alien God." This is further speculation but the only human "Alien God" needed might have been Kirschtaria. The other Crypters were extras, like “Sure, lets give them a shot.”

Mash:
>That... not caring about those lives, its...

Holmes:
>We shouldn't think about countermeasures right now. We don't have the tools to stop him. We should consider it after other factors are added in.

[Anonymous No.]

https://twitter.com/Layemou99/status/1204722404267843584

>All those replies
I fucking hate twitter and the culture of not bothering to take a fucking second to google.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22631634
Yes, with ease. This anon explains >>22630837 the Animusphere magecraft affects. The primordial pre Ages of Gods aligment and cosmos is able to make it peak (until the galaxy in the Lostbelt is use I assume for the "hollow/fantasy god"), Kirsch has control over the celestial bodies, moving them as he pleases, and can draw mana from them. His mana output is also higher for that reason because he's using an External Circuit (the celestial bodies).

For example, remember Rin vs Sakura fight? Despite the energy at their disposal, they could only use it on smaller scale because their magical circuits output has a limit. It'll be the same with Zelretch while Wodime's magical circuits are the magical circuits of the "cosmos."

It's actually a great way to explore how much the Age of Men fucked magecraft and why Wandering Sea isn't interested in the Root but rather return the old Mystery of the Age of Gods to undo the decline.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22631737
>nd finally the heavens
By the way, the word used for Heavens here is the same Nasu uses for the Root. "Hollow Sky" and the furigana.

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>>22632809
It is the argument between scale and having a higher level of conceptual alteration.
Kirsch is still using traditional magecraft to nearly it's limit in the only scenario he ever could reach such a level.
Zel probably cannot beat him, but he can avoid being beaten quite easily.
It is a tactical stalemate.

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>>22632856
It's a magecraft that fucking controls the planets (if you read between the lines aka the heavens is a symbolic way Nasu calls the Root, it gets even scarier).

>Zel probably cannot beat him, but he can avoid being beaten quite easily.
>It is a tactical stalemate.

Well, yes, because Kirsch's autistic about "I'll only need 3 battles" but without that, I'm not sure he can unless he flees. Kirsch after all also controls the Authorities of the LB and has, among other thing, planet destroying super machine gods at his disposal.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22632899
>unless he flees
Which is what he would do. And he can with impunity.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22632856
>>22632899
Heads up: The one who came out with the theory Kirsch is applying is no one less but Marisbury Animusphere. Kirsch is a genius, though, but we have to give credit where is due and what the other anon said: Now the speculation (because his name matches) about the mage behind the damage on Earth core through a ritual in the 70s is looking very likely when the Animusphere magecraft involves mana depleting and messing with celestial bodies and isn't just super astronomy (which we knew wasn't).

[Anonymous No.]

>>22632809
>Wodime's magical circuits are the magical circuits of the "cosmos."
how the hell does that work

[Anonymous No.]

>>22633006
Animusphere magecraft. See>>22630837 We were waiting on an explanation for this hint now we have a rough idea why.

>a magecraft system that uses the celestial bodies themselves as the circuits for the spell.
Da Vinci says is probably the greatest magical circuit in the history of man.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22632809
How does powerlvl work in fgo now ?

Before the type were the most powerful beings because they were from a different planet, something that could change the law of physics and didnt have a concept of death. But now being such as beast doesn't have a concept of death either or can change the futur and shit (seen with goetia) ? I always assumed that being from the earth were below the counterforce in terms of power but i'm not sure anymore.

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>>22633058
Beasts were something Nasu thought as ultimate enemy type for Fate from the very beginning but didn't bring the scenario in FSN. Remember Fate was inspired by Makai Tensho which was about a Yagyu going around beating dead spirits brought by Satanists who were going to rise Satan and Satan was going to destroy everything. He roughly made the draft of Prototype with such an idea in mind but later changed things around so the Beast of Revelations didn't show up at the end of FSN. FGO allows Nasu to explore 'higher scale things' (if it's well executed or not is up to you) and also to dig into Fate-like timelines lore, including his exploration of the Ages of Gods and the Beasts (this was his main focus for it). He separated Tsukihime from Fate world building for a good reason.

Beings of different planets are still powerful and some have conceptual stuff but most would just get ignored by the system humanity made (a system that ate their own so we have this lostbelt conflict right now). "Human history acknowledgment" is the foundation of the entire setting, so that would trump any other force in the main story (the big bads are using human history as their power source: Goetia and this fantasy God-maybe-Animusphere related for example). The foundation of Tsukihime is different, on the other hand. So everything about TYPES can still apply there.

>I always assumed that being from the earth were below the counterforce in terms of power but i'm not sure anymore.
You're not wrong. I think a lot of players forget that, despite being used by the CF, Grand Servants are called "The true Servants from/of the Root." So the system is more than just Alaya.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22633006
See >>22631767
>I wish. For me... uhhh, no, Kirschtaria's magecraft was just obvious. It was "ideal magecraft" older than the Age of Gods, when the planet, heavens, and cosmos were full of magical energy. Humanity has turned to a consumption civilization. With the development of civilization all magecraft has deteriorated, its scope shrunk. Astrology is the same. That's right, the original astrology was about borrowing the power of the stars.
>The magical energy that rotated the "planet," filled the "sky," and poured down from the "heavens." In the world of ancient Greece, the sky and the heavens above were different layers. Of course, the quality of magical energy of each layer was different too. The heavens were the law that governed the cosmos. Without it, it would be impossible to control celestial bodies. Artificially place planets in a series and use them as a gigantic magic circuit. It wouldn't be an exaggeration to say a magus could prepare the largest magic circuit in all of human history. Surely, creating a planetary roar with an astrological conjunction would send meteors hurtling down.

Also
>This was a magecraft system that used celestial bodies themselves as a "circuit." In the depths of the astrology that the Chaldeans, founders of reading the stars, had passed down to the current era was this ultimate magecraft. Uniting magical energy that fills the earth; the magical energy that fills the firmament; and finally the heavens, the magical energy that fills the cosmos, a starry miracle as if forcing planets into sequence.

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>>22627780

Pretty neat they showed the town in which I spent my uni years. Anyone visiting the exhibition in Dec and comiket in general?

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>>22633591
Doesn't this confirm that the Animuspheres are the masterminds or something they created (not necessarily just Marisbury but all the bloodline including Olga)? Kirsch was chosen because was compatible and in sync with the god (which is now called hollow or fantasy rather than "from another planet") and that is due to his magecraft. There is a "galaxy" in the tree because Animusphere magecraft relies on a perfect cosmos model to reach its peak. We know from Case Files it also allows the person to control the chosen environment which can be all the sphere. Kirsch grumbles about the answers humanity reached weren't good enough and Marisbury wanted to find out answers that's why he activated Chaldeas. The tree in the lostbelt is an illusion and projection. The Area 51 ''alien specimen'' seems like a red herring of something that's regarded like that by researchers without magecraft experience but by the sound of it, it looks like was a piece of the root of fantasy released on late 2016 after humanity was restored. David Bluebook meets his end when he was questioning if the "invasion" (which is by LB) was caused by human cruelty or... there was another reason. He goes to see the specifimen and finds... a piece of wood on an operation table while a mysterious guy (censored sprite to hide him) shoots him.

Fake Romani saying there's someone in Chaldea he doesn't fully trust so keep his existence a secret. Is it Holmes or... is it Sion who had deals with Animusphere from the very beginning?

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>>22633912
>including Olga
that's absurd Olga clearly had no idea what was going on

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Does anyone find it weird how Shirou is never presented as being "that chuuni"? Despite his "hero" thing he never seriously wants cool powers or stuff. But then Archer comes with the UBW chant and the final attack of Kanshou and Bakuya requiring you to say some cringy ass lines. Does this mean that Shirou has always been the biggest chuuni?

[Anonymous No.]

>>22634022
Even if she wasn't aware of it, she's probably part of it. Kirsch calls the priestess the "hollow void in shape of a priestess." He wants to show her the future she couldn't grasp.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22634193
what part of the word mastermind do you not understand

[Anonymous No.]

>>22633153
thanks anon.

[Anonymous No.]

Is Melty worth learning?

[Anonymous No.]

>>22635239
if you enjoy it

[Anonymous No.]

>>22635239
It's not that hard.

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>22633912
Well the Animusphere/Marisbilly being the Foreign God theory has been a thing for a long time so there's that... And about whatever happened in Area 51, i think the Priestess is probably related to Olga and Specimen: E, especially after we know the experiments they did on that Specimen and Olga's scene in Lostroom when she's screaming while her body got wrecked by those faceless people. Also speaking of the Priestess, her expression when Guda & servants got destroyed by Kirsch makes me kinda surprised. Like eventhough this really feels like Olga, but i don't think the Priestess has ever shown that short of emotion with Guda/Chaldea team in previous LBs.
>Fake Romani saying there's someone in Chaldea he doesn't fully trust so keep his existence a secret. Is it Holmes or... is it Sion who had deals with Animusphere from the very beginning?
By that time Sion wasn't with us on the ship and the communication with Wandering Sea base has been cut off before so i don't think Robeman was talking about her. Meanwhile Holmes is shady for sure: Sigurd-Surtr said he's not a pure Heroic Spirit and was mixed with something else, Sion was shocked when she saw Holmes in LB3 intro and Pepe outright asked if he's human or not in LB4. Holmes in Fate is not just a fictional character but a living person (his past when he's alive were shown in Jekyll's and Helena's side stories) so here you go. That said i don't think Holmes would betray Chaldea or something, especially after his short motivational speech about Panhistory in LB4 but he's probably hiding something.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22634217
I mean to include her as part of the "something they created" even without knowledge. She sees those outline of people torturing her in Lostroom. I think she's synchronized with Specimen "E"/The piece of wood.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22636733
I was thinking the same thing actually! It comes together. Her contempt you mean? She was disgusted by Guda in the past. Even if she is Olga's hollow, doesn't mean she's Olga (her sentience and former personality).

Kadoc's manga also makes it look as if Kirschtaria and Olga were on good terms with each other. Far from what I expected of her (to be jealous) or him (to look down at her), they were close. I wonder what was their relationship, they focused on Olga's feelings for Lev for a while. Maybe the OP song is, partly, toward Olga but not from Chaldea, but from Kirschtaria. If it is multiple POVs, after LB 5, I lean on the self insert (and Mashu's) feelings for Roman, while Kirschtaria for Olga.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22637436
Also, what do you think about Specimen E and the year 2016? It was detected in New Mexico, moved to the Area 51 base and the experiments all happened in 2016 but Goetia's incineration was happening by that time. So how could the researchers do all that thing with Specimen E in 2016?

[Anonymous No.]

>>22637436
>She was disgusted by Guda
don't exaggerate she was annoyed with him and frustrated that he was all they had left but to say she was disgusted by him seems a bit much

[Anonymous No.]

>>22637793
She had murderous thoughts about him in lostroom, there was disgust. she made a hand gesture as if she wanted to crush his head but relented after he showed some spine.

>>22637682
The specimen was found on 2016, presumably on December which was when humanity was restored. There was no overlap. Humanity didn't exist earlier to make any experiment.
How long the procedure last, we don't know. The description makes me think it dropped from midair near the stratosphere like the lostbelts so it was mistaken by an alien (there's a shot of that in the OP).

[Anonymous No.]

>>22637825
>She had murderous thoughts about him in lostroom, there was disgust. she made a hand gesture as if she wanted to crush his head but relented after he showed some spine.
You are reading way to much into said hand gesture it generally doesn't actually me the person doing it truely want's to kill the other person
plus the beginning part of Lostroom where she's fighting alongside Gudao and Mash she sure as hell isn't doesn't seem to hate Gudao

[Anonymous No.]

>>22637891
>plus the beginning part of Lostroom where she's fighting alongside Gudao and Mash she sure as hell isn't doesn't seem to hate Gudao
not him, but when somebody is fighting to save your life, you tend not to hate them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22637928
except Gudao wasn't fighting to save her life and Olga was doing most of the work and didn't seem to need any help

[Anonymous No.]

>The Priestess of the Foreign Star stands before you. She faces you, opening her mouth. Although she shows no expression and you cannot hear her words, somehow, you understand. She is ridiculing you, who now lies defeated. Hurling abuse at you, showing her contempt.
Literally how Guda can understand the Priestess?
And yeah this really does feel like Olga.

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>>22638227
>Literally how Guda can understand the Priestess?
Blank self insert powers.

>And yeah this really does feel like Olga.
Hollowed void. It's not Olga anymore.

Anyway, in Kadoc's manga chapter, it shows Olga and Kirsch as close and friendly to each other (in Kadoc's POV). In episode 0, when they show the Crypters as Olga lectures, Kirsch seems to have a soft smile very unlike his expression later. Maybe he liked her, even if not in a romantic way, in a platonic family way.

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>>22639050
>In episode 0, when they show the Crypters as Olga lectures, Kirsch seems to have a soft smile very unlike his expression later. Maybe he liked her, even if not in a romantic way, in a platonic family way.
Well if anythig, in LB3 intro
>Peperoncino:
>Right. Then, I’ll be the only one preparing a funeral wreath, I guess.
>How nice. My Lostbelt has nothing but flowers in it. Although we were of different religions, I’ll give her a proper funeral.
>I’ll do that in your place, Kirschtaria, you who have never once smiled in satisfaction after sitting upon that chair.

[Anonymous No.]

Merry Christmas /tmg/!!!

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

How's /tmg/'s group re-read of Tsukihime for Arc's birthday?

[Anonymous No.]

>>22640335
I’m too burnt out by the university, so I’m postponing it to January

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

[tsukihimeremakecountdown No.]

I am depressed.

[Anonymous No.]

1st row: Ishida Sui (Tokyo Ghoul) - Koyoharu Gotouge (Kimetsu no Yaiba) - Shiro Usazaki (Act-Age)
2nd row: Ryuji Hugirashi (from CAPCOM), Keitaro Yotsuya (Akuma no Memumemu-chan), Akutami Gege (Jujutsu Kaisen)
3rd row: Ayatsuji Yukito, Kasai Kiyoshi and i can't read the last one but all three of them are novelists.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22641037
>Kimetsu, Act-Age, Jujutsu
>those three WSJ mangaka

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[Anonymous No.]

>>22640549
Cute Rihda

[Anonymous No.]

>Didn't get abby on any 3 attempts (90 quartz)
>Can't be in the Christmas event
>Stuck in the first quest of camelot because i rushed too much
>Get mash to 60, herc and Medea to 50, my waifu (euryale) and FSN Cu to 40
>STILL not enough
>Material quests in interlude aren't helping much so they can't really be ascended
>Hardly any quartz to roll for eresh

[Anonymous No.]

>>22641304
We warned you. Don't play mobage.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22641304
Gambling is bad for you. Quit now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22641341
>>22641391

There is no other game where i can have conversations with abby in my room and witness her in action

[Anonymous No.]

>>22641623
Abi was a mistake
Nasu should have never tried to introduce lovecraft shit into the story
why couldn't he be happy with the Velber or TYPES?

[Anonymous No.]

>>22641652
Nasu doesn't like his past.
He already said it lots of times.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22640553
Why? Cause no Remake announcement? You were silly for expecting it.

[tsukihimeremakecountdown No.]

>>22641924
Actually I wasn't.
But it still hurts you know.

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[Anonymous No.]

>>22639334
I just wonder if because he's pressured or because he couldn't save her. Maybe he saw her as an older sister.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22641652
Because Velber wouldn't have jobbed to Circe. That was a display that Circe, thus Medea, were a big deal.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22641652
You can watch her on youtube. Also the Salem manga.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22642093
Oops
>>22641623

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>>22641304
We warned you bro.

[Anonymous No.]

Another year.

[Anonymous No.]

Happy Birthday to our Moon Princess!

[Anonymous No.]

>>22642631
At least there's a good chance the translation will be done sometime next year, if you haven't already read it.

[Anonymous No.]

Merry Christmas brothers and sisters

[Anonymous No.]

>>22638227
I didn't understand the insistence of some fans to try to fall for the easy alien bait and possible red herring without realizing FGO is very similar to FSN in structure and not to Extella. I don't mean Guda is a good MC or anything, I mean the outline of the plot. FSN and Fuyuki Grail War nonsense was caused by the titled magi family to try to make a ritual for the Third Magic, this triggered something wrong. Since the beginning FGO, was about magic rituals/formula that went wrong (Goetia for example) and the foundation of Chaldea as Fuyuki Grail War is the three family, is the Animusphere, we know have some ambition. This "hollow god" is no different from Angra Mainyu as nonentity assuming he exists at all.

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>>22643101
Why are Fate heroines so mediocre?

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>>22642986
My expectations are minimal.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22643303
Woudn't then FSN plot be a rewrite of the Tsukihime Aylesbury Valesti? The one which is supposed to reencarnate Type Moon?
Also, are you implying that Cosmos in the Lostbelt is a Heaven's Feel of galactic proportions?

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>>22643356
Your expectations are wrong.

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>>22641304
Make some friends. I'm in the same spot as you but there's some nice people out there who can help you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22643657
I hope so, but I don't want to be disappointed.

[Anonymous No.]

https://twitter.com/SaltyyBucket/status/1209683073832570880

Some good news I guess.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22641304
>>22643736
why do you fgofags come here anyway

[Anonymous No.]

C97 is going to start this Saturday so we're gonna see Case Files material soon
>Illustrations from the novels and magazines
>Secret File, a section with Nasu info on the setting
>Around 50 characters designs
>16 pages with 70 entries terminology glossary by Sanda

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>>22627771
But Nasu said Arc specifically getting in is the one thing he does want to happen one day eventually.

[Anonymous No.]

Happy birthday Arc!

[Anonymous No.]

>>22627771
Source? Because Nasu literally said in 2017 that he wanted to get SSR Arcueid in FGO and Aoko might be the XXXX person in Fujino's mats. Also characters whose name got redacted in that section will eventually appear in the game.

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>>22644410
>Also characters whose name got redacted in that section will eventually appear in the game.
Kishima Kouma? Because outside of Arc he's basically the only one that can fight on the level of a servant thanks to being not-Akuma.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22644429
After Lostbelt 5 we definitively know that Nasu is talking out his ass in terms of powerlevels

[Anonymous No.]

>>22644429
Does Kishima Kouma look like Azaka and use beam?

[Anonymous No.]

>>22644410
>>22644456
Go away.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22644460
>can't disprove anything

[Anonymous No.]

>>22644429
>XXXX
>“A high-schooler with black hair and gallant demeanor… This strongly reminds me of a close friend of mine.
>Her personality is… quite different, however. But I do love the beams. Beams are nice.”
I know Aoko has brown hair but Mahoyo itself says 長い黒髪の少女が現れた。

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>>22644410
The only thing I know is that, basing on this FGO updates and stuborness of Nasu regarding releasing VNs because of some shit world setting idea he wants to accomplish at the end of part 2 of FGO, Tsukihime and Mahoyo will be already too much wasted for me.
Nobody on the FGO side will actually like those characters.
Nasu will try to change them in order to fit his new optmistic ideals which will utterly destroy all Tsukihime cast.
Everything will be trash, because Type Moon is currently trash.

[Anonymous No.]

Nasu: I can’t reveal anything concrete yet at the moment, but rest assured that we’ve been making progress on various titles within TYPE-MOON. I’d like to apologize about not having anything to say right now. But all I can say is that as long as FGO is in service, I just have to make the Tsukihime R collaboration a dream come true.

4Gamer: !

Nasu: That’s why I feel that producing good content for FGO and releasing Tsukihime R are the duties entrusted to me and all of TYPE-MOON. After all, I also want to see SSR Arcueid Brunestud happen!

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>>22644726
I hate this excerpt with utmost passion
I can't stand how much of a hypocritical fuck and lying scum he can be
filthy modern nip scum
It is beyong disrespectful, its utterly repulsive
I wish Nasu would die right now

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>>22644747
Hypocritical I can understand, but where's the lie?

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>>22644896
There were more than one time that the TsukiR would have been released.
He just postponed it because "life is a harsh mistress" using his words.
I mean, some could say he didn't promise anything and that it is his decision to bring anything at all. Would never disagree on that. He did say in some instances dating before mahoyo release that is should be something to happen "at least" with FGO. And he didn't
But if lie is a wrong word here, then at least let me call him an indecisive fuck.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22643481
>Tsukihime Aylesbury Valesti
FGO is based on the Beast scenario which is older.


>Also, are you implying that Cosmos in the Lostbelt is a Heaven's Feel of galactic proportions?
Yes, that's what I mean. Kirsch is very much trying to do the Animusphere Grand Order (Olga namedrops it in Moonlight Lostroom). It's kind of the far side, but as far sides go, it goes dark before the ending which is mostly light-hearted (even if the climax gets bad) and less bittersweet than near side sometimes. Return to the Spring was less heavy than Brilliant Years (which get the bittersweet stuff after the Rin and Shirou scene) or Continuation of a Dream. Nasu did say he hopes the conclusion would be for the best.

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>>22623019
Retard here.

What's the differences between Fate and UBW ? In both Shirou chooses to continue his ideal depsite knowing from the begining the impossibility of it he still want to pursue it even if it bother him to not be able to save everyone. Further down each route he understand through the visions of Saber that having such an ideal can be self destructing and lead to a tragedy but he still follows it because he admire saber for what she did.

In Ubw Archer told him that his ideal is a fake that it was not born from him that he just took it from kiritsugu, plus the reason was that he wanted to recreate the smile he saw from kiritsugu the day he was saved. Then Archer attack him with the idea that such an ideal can't lead to anything because he can't save anything concrete, he will just keep runing and runing untill he becomes like him. Depsite that Shirou still follow his ideal because archer forgot that the means was as important as the end that the result should not become your only goal and that is ideal isn't wrong.


So thats my understanding of each routes themes and idea, but what's the difference between those two ? is it that UBW is just more personnal to Shirou and more cynical to his ideal revealing that he is not doing it for other but for him ? Feel free to add or correct things that are wrong.

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>>22646269
Well, it's as simple as a fundamental misunderstanding in the Fate route. The thing is, Shirou doesn't change his ideals in any way during the Fate route. By the end of it, he's still stupid, which is a lot of the reasons why people dislike the Fate route. Because Shirou himself doesn't get any development, its Saber who does. Saber's ideals and self change, but Shirou's stay static.

UBW sees them change by Shirou recognizing the faults with his ideals. He was unable to do this before and followed his ideals blindly. This is how he is in the Fate route. In UBW, after recognizing that his ideal is indeed faulty, he still wants to pursue it, because the results it brings are still beneficiary and indeed work. And as you said, now he takes the means into account. This also means he probably won't try to kill himself in order to save Saber, thus partly healing his Survivor's Guilt.

In terms of the Fate route, Saber and Archer are similar in many ways. They've forgotten the means and instead only look toward the result, discarding themselves in the process as well. This is where Shirou's current idealistic state helps her, because Shirou wants to save everyone at his own cost, and that's what he does to Saber. He brings her happiness by showing her what it means to be human again, and by somewhat fixing her utilitarianist state. Of course, this is at the cost of his own development, which doesn't get addressed in the Fate route. This is one of the main reasons Nasu has wanted to rewrite the Fate route, among others.

[Anonymous No.]

comfy

[Anonymous No.]

I only just now realized that Beat is an arrangement of the original Melty Blood OP.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22646910
And what about HF Shirou?

[Anonymous No.]

>>22644484
That isn't even the point.
It is plain heresy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22647320
Well done, that also means that Aoko literally gets her own special version of the theme song.
Nobody else does, and I love it.

[Anonymous No.]

https://youtu.be/ymdgJRWzjik
May all of you dream in this next year;
Let's all dream like this girl;
Dream about good dreams;
Dreams of things we wish;
That we have long waited;
With so much loyalty;
Even through so much hard times;
Anon, happy holydays, happy new years;
And dream, dream a lot;
For 2020 shall be ours.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22647483
HF Shirou discards his ideals completely. He doesn't care about saving everyone or saving the majority, he only cares about saving Sakura. That is the only person that matters to him, literally, because as well as Fate, Shirou will still risk/take his own life in order to save Sakura. It is a simple matter of switching out his priorities. He is still a broken man, he still has "Survivor's Guilt," but now instead of trying to save literally every single random person on the street, its towards Sakura.

It can be said that in this version, he is fundamentally the closest to Kiritsugu's methods (more of IMO then anything, but yea). To HF Shirou, the means no longer matter whatsoever. What matters to him is Sakura, serving as the end goal. No matter if this kills half of humanity or all of humanity.

He discards his ideals in that famous choice of whether to kill Sakura or not. If you do, you get Mind of Steel, which is said to be closest to Kiritsugu, where he will sacrifice anything and everything in order to obtain the Holy Grail. If you don't, Shirou discards his ideals and becomes what I described above.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22649722
Thank you, anon.

[Anonymous No.]

Who's dick is bigger, Shiki's or Shirou's?

[Anonymous No.]

>>22650994
Shiki's, Shirou's is average probably. I wonder how big Archer's dick is though. Now that's a question.

[Anonymous No.]

Nasu put in a crazy amount of work in Tsukihime, F/SN+F/HA, and Mahoyo.

Doesn't he deserve to be lazy?

[Anonymous No.]

>>22651165

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>>22651165
This is one of the most retarded lines of argument you could've picked, shitposter-kun.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22651165
Then he should retire and entrust TM to Meteor.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22651165
If you mean him being not involved with FGO production and writing, I am all for it.
The question is, is he really being lazy?
Go read again the interviews, my little baiter.
Go there and fucking say to my face that he is being lazy.

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>>22651165
he's not being lazy, he's just writing garbage.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22651595
See for a while I was super angry with nasu about FGO, and his low output of other non FGO content. However I've come to realize just how crappy of a position he's in. This little spinoff game blew up, and now he has to continue it because of how many people's jobs are literally on the line. It seems like everybody's being worked to death, so even the writing staff is having a horrible time with it.
By the way it should go without saying but i'm not >>22651165
Just want to say that now to avoid a headache later.

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>>22653993
I think you're wildly overestimating the work that goes into FGO

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>>22653993
>he has to continue it because of how many people's jobs are literally on the line
Please. Nasu has been Aniplex's slave since at least Zero. He does everything Aniplex says him to. Nasu simply loves money, that's all.

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>>22653993
You know that he could just drop his autism and let the project be managed by other people right?

I've read the interviews and the amount of work he's claiming he puts in is ridiculous. He looks over fucking everything because he trust nobody to act out his grand vision, not even the writers he hired to do exactly that. And for good reason because the first 5 singularites were absolute dogshit. But of course he doesn't fire them because nepotism. And what does all his work achieve? He still retcons himself, the writers still can't decide how to handle basic shit like servant memory, they still had to create an entirely separate timeline that makes zero sense in order to justify events post-chaldea, and servants from that timeline are in the main one because fuck you, the first 4 LBs were filler AGAIN because only he is allowed to write cool shit, he actively blocks shit that would make the game better like auto-battle and NP skipping because "muh lore". He shouldn't be touching this fucking game besides a plot outline at all, and yet here he fucking is. And yet the moment Takeuchi says ANYTHING Nasu is suddenly autism free and does whatever the fuck he wants, even if he deeply disagrees.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22654185
I mean Nasu and takeuchi are lovers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22623019
Creating Nero was the worst thing Nasu ever did

[Anonymous No.]

>>22654256
Nasu is Takeuchi's spilt personality

[Anonymous No.]

>>22654440
Is nasu the feminine personality ( The true ideal of saber faces) While takeuchi the masculine? Without Takeuchi Nasu was well on his way to writing otome.

[Anonymous No.]

So what's the general consensus on the versions of Fate/Zero, is it better to watch to read the original LN or watch the anime?

I'm planning on checking it out after finishing FSN and FHA, after all that reading I'd be interested in watching the anime, and maybe read the LN later on.

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>>22644260
Really can't wait. God we need more series like Case Files.

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>>22654552
Anime. The LN pacing is IMO some of the worst I've ever seen. For those that think 25 episodes wasn't enough/they cut content, they are dead fucking wrong. Its a 1:1 adaptation, with nothing left out. The pacing in the LN is actually so fucking slow it could easily be condensed into 3 normal sized volumes. Urobuchi might have one of the worst writing styles, he assumes the reader is retarded and leaves absolutely nothing to the imagination, and has to explain literally everything. Haven't given Saya no Uta a shot, but he seems to be consistent at making pretty good fucking anime. Aldnoah is contested, but most of the time when he hits the mark, it hits real good.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22653993
Most of the work isn't even TM's responsibility.
Problem is Nasu takes so long figuring out the scenario, and guiding the writers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22654421
Scat is still worse.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22654552
Obviously read the LN first, but only if you can read Japanese. Don't even bother with the translation.

[Anonymous No.]

>acquire a condemned prisoner that nobody would miss
>put a magical tether on his soul
>kill him
>his soul attempts to return to Akasha, as do all souls
>tether allows us to track the soul's progress
>when the Root becomes observable, yank on the tether
>soul is now prevented from going farther
>but since the soul has been stopped at the moment of contacting Akasha, it is now perpetually observable
>thus do we gain infinite access to all the Root's secrets
Would this work? Some timing issues would need to be sorted out, of course, but with enough experimentation this should be feasible.

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>>22655373
>Don't even bother with the translation.
There's nothing wrong with the translation. It's actually just that bad. Don't bother reading it in any language. I've got both the Portuguese and Japanese copies, and they are equally as trash. The English translation isn't too different from either, with minor hiccups here and there.

I have a feeling people who say to read the JP haven't actually read the JP themselves.

[Anonymous No.]

Someone has the poster that appears(Saber) there I have been looking for but I can't find it anywhere

[Anonymous No.]

Another great Arc Christmas.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22655650
Stop supporting newpop.
Also, which state are you?

[Anonymous No.]

>>22655650
Reading zero was some of the most embarrassing things I've felt in my life.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22656345
The main one.
>>22656351
I completely agree.

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>>22656357
nice
I'm from the warring one.

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>>22654631
>Its a 1:1 adaptation, with nothing left out.
They wasted an episode on Rin filler, then rushed the fuck out of the finale. Gil talking to Angra Mainyu was skipped, Saber vs Lancelot was so short it pretty much was skipped, and don't get me started on the batcave scene or Kariya's death scene.

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>>22656351
Rereading FSN was one of the most embarrassing things I've felt in my life.

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>>22656411
>They wasted an episode on Rin filler
"Filler"
>Gil talking to Angra Mainyu was skipped
Because that slowed down the pacing, was completely worthless, and was completely static dialogue. Almost exactly my point. Before you respond with "not sticking to the source" or some bullshit, please tell me the point of that scene and how it impacted either character or the F/Z narrative.
>Saber vs Lancelot was so short it pretty much was skipped
It lasts a full 5 minutes, and gets across what is needed to get across. It was an unimpactful subplot in the first place.
>batcave scene
batcave scene? Are you talking about the Kirei and Kiritsugu fight arena? Who the fuck gives a shit, it was a novel in the first place. Anime has a job of putting descriptive locations in visual, there's tons of room for interpretation (its also good to know that the writer always has a hand in these). If you're talking about Caster's Workshop, then you're completely misremembering, that was 1:1.
>Kariya's death scene
This also proves my point. That scene is much better done when its completely ambiguous (plus you should already know that Sakura isn't mocking him, Zero is after FSN not before), unlike the LN which literally makes Sakura think out loud to the retarded reader:
>Novel:
Sakura: "That's what happens when you go against Grandfather"
Sakura (in her head to the reader): *"OHHHH WAIT I GOT IT, BECAUSE OF THIS SCENE IM NEVER GOING TO GO AGAINST GRANDFATHER AGAIN. DID YOU UNDERSTAND READER? LET ME MAKE IT CLEARER FOR YOU"*
>Anime:
Sakura: "That's what happens when you go against Grandfather"
Urobuchi explanation for kids who can't interpret: *REDACTED*
You: Ohhh I see now, this is why she doesn't ever go against her grandfather in the time between now and FSN. As much as this may sound like she's mocking him for such, she sounds like this because of her previously shown apatheticness to the current events happening in her life ever since she got trained by the worms.

Please get new points to shit on the Zero anime, it's getting old and been completely disproven at this point. It is a downright perfect adaptation, because if you're trying to stick to the source then half of the show would be static images with Kiritsugu spouting the same crap over and over again in his head. The Gil, Saber vs Lancelot, and Kariya points have been made so many times and they don't ever get stronger with each new iteration. The Ufotable hate boner should be applied to UBW, not to where it doesn't fucking belong.

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>>22656616
>"Filler"
Out of place and not in the source material, so yes, filler. Nothing but an episode wasted on loli Rinwank.
>please tell me the point of that scene and how it impacted either character or the F/Z narrative.
It explains why he didn't get corrupted by Angra Mainyu, which is important for how he survived and for the Fate route. Skipping that scene is part of why the finale is so incoherent and confusing to secondaries.
>Who the fuck gives a shit, it was a novel in the first place. Anime has a job of putting descriptive locations in visual, there's tons of room for interpretation
Their fight was explicitly stated to take place in a "sea of fire" in both the LN and F/SN, not to mention the official illustrations for the LN. It was clear that they just got lazy and used a simple test animation background.
>Kariya's death scene
Novel: (in her head while chained to the wall) "This must be a lesson about what happens when you go against Grandfather"
Anime: (standing right behind Kariya and looking down condescendingly as he suddenly falls as if pushed) "THAT'S WHAT YOU GET FOR GOING AGAINST GRANDFATHER IDIOT"
Secondaries: WTF WORMSLUT LIKED IT ALL ALONG AND KILLED KARIYA FUCKING NTR KILLER WHORE

Speaking of Kariya, the Brazzers-tier camera angles and random dryhumping in the scene where he choked Aoi made that scene completely impossible to take seriously.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22655471
Prisoners doesn’t have souls

[Anonymous No.]

Guys, do you think Arjuna Alter can beat Wodime? IIRC, his NP's a pocket reality (that he demolishes), right?

[Anonymous No.]

>>22657790
Wodime can be punched out by almost everyone as long as he is out of his Lostbelt.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22657790
Kirsch is OP in Greece only because ancient greek cosmology is absurdly synergistic with Animusphere magecraft and basically turns him into a living god. Outside of these very specific circumstances he is bitchmade like all modern magi.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22656667
Why the fuck are you making excuses for secondaries? It's their fault for not having read FSN first.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22657790
Why are you asking about FGO powerlevels on /tmg/ out of all places?

[Anonymous No.]

So, how exactly does NLBW work?
We learn in the previous two routes that Shirou can reproduce the "history" of the weapons he traces, which means he can replicate the techniques of the original user if they had been performed by weapon in question.
He can also reproduce the physical stats of the original user.
But how do these let him pull off Nine Lives, which was executed with a weapon that had never been used for that technique before?

[Anonymous No.]

>>22659600
Your answer is it doesn't and Nasu fucked up. As one would expect of an VN writer in the early 2000s. the difference between nasu and other writers though is that he will never admit that he fucked up and just wank up some excuse that really explains nothing on the spot when asked about anything that doesn't make sense.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22659600
Nasu can't keep up with his own lore.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22659600
There's a dozen ways to justify it these days.
Herc's sword is taken from a piece of a temple for him that was crafted into an axe for him to use. Despite being a Berserker and currently having it sealed, Nine Lives is a personal style of attack he has that he can adapt to any weapon he uses. And Nasu says that Shirou copied Nine Lives while projecting the axe. So take your pick
>Shirou projected Nine Lives from Herc himself who still had the technique but couldn't use it
>Shirou projected Nine Lives from Herc's axe because the temple it was made from contains history from a Herc who could use Nine Lives
>Shirou projected Nine Lives because Herc tried and failed to use it as a Berserker sometime before fighting Shirou
>Shirou projected Nine Lives because he was also projecting "Hercules technique with an axe"
>Shirou projected Nine Lives because he was also projecting "Hercules technique with that stone axe" and that stone axe being "an axe that Hercules wielded" would hold Hercules technique

Fgo retcon edition:
>FGO Herc freely uses Nine Lives, and Herc's stone axe is now part of his standard Berserker summon so it's an official weapon that has used it
>Emiya faced Herc before and would have the technique in his UBW that Shirou was relying on.

[Anonymous No.]

Can anyone here explain the differences between Mystic eyes and pure eyes?
Mystic eyes require a magical circuit but I'm pretty sure pure eyes are a form of ESP but other than that, I have no clue.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22661069
Mystic Eyes do things, Pure Eyes see things.
(Death Perception is technically both, but I guess the Mystic name takes priority or whatever)

[Anonymous No.]

newfag here.
So, I just downloaded the Realta Nua Ultimate edition and this keeps happening to all sprites
I don't know if this is the right place to ask this, but if any of you could help in any way, I appreciate it

[Anonymous No.]

Case Files material is out today

[Anonymous No.]

>>22662418
I got the Return to Avalon art book and it arrived today.

[Anonymous No.]

>960 BC: King Solomon's death. The Age of Gods end here. The traces of Mystery were supposed to fade from this point on and become reduced to nothing by the point of AD.
>The night before AD: The user of the First Magic is Born

>00 AD: The remaining magus from the Age of Gods lay the foundation of the Mage's Association. "Mystery will one day disappear , but let preserve the knowledge as an academia." was their motto(reason to take action). However---
>20 AD: The 5th Imaginary Element "Ether" is proven. The New World begins. It was decided that Magecraft and Mystery was to be continued in a different form. The other magus from the Age of Gods shut themselves in the Atlas Temple and the Wandering Sea, and although they did not agree to our motto, we preserved our fellowship as mutual followers of the academy of mystery. This, in future, developed into the Mage's Association

[Anonymous No.]

>>22662580
Also the timeline states that Zelretch and Crimson Moon battle happened in 300~ for anyone who wants to know. There's more stuff about him in the other section but too.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22662580
>>22662589
Oh yeah that part too
>20~100 AD: The headmaster, along with his associates, work diligently in their activities. Thanks to their work, more people began learning magecraft and the energy(morale) from the Age of Gods began to come back. From around this time, Dead Apostles began appearing in the Magus world(society) and they began attacking mages as they saw as an enemy(threat).
>300 AD: The night in the forest capital, the Battle at the Millennium Castle
>It is said...that a battle between the Crimson Moon and the Wizard Marshall Zelretch took place

[Anonymous No.]

>>22662651
>300~500 AD: In the Western European countries of the Great Continent, the Holy Church begins building up its influence(power). The Mage's Association decline. The damage from the fight with the Crimson Moon was too deep. The Winter for magecraft begins. The Magus Capitals that the Mage's Association developed became shut down one by one because of the conflict with the Holy Church. With the Crimson Moon destroyed, Gransurg Blackmore, in despair accepts his own destruction. Even though he raises his own disciples, on than night of the Blue Moon, he is defeated by an Executor who happened to pass by. "I met that person on a night like this. Then a night like this is the time for me to die".
>500 AD: The last remaining True Ether(5th True Element) on the British Island disappears. A group of magus set their headquarters in the British Island. This marks the beginning of the "Clock Tower"

[Anonymous No.]

>>22662862
>600~900 AD: The Spirit Grave, Albion is excavated. The Clock Tower continues to dig into the depth of Britain and gains an insurmountable asset(fortune) for magecraft. The Clock Tower becomes a light of hope to the declining Magus world and a great number of magus and investors gather.
>900 AD: Justeaze, the Holy Maiden of the Einzbern is born. The Third Magic that has been told over 1000 years is finally proven.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22662867
>1000 AD: The prodigy child Barthomeloi arrives at the Clock Tower. The groundwork for the Aristocratic classes of Magus is formed.
>1200 AD: The Clock Tower is now the center of the Magus world. The Monarch system is complete. (At this time there were 12 departments with the Faculty of Policies being one of them)
>1400 AD: Zepia is inaugurated to the role of Director. To this day, he is continuing that role.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22662875
>1600 AD: The way of the Faculty of Policies start to be questioned. It is no longer an academic department. From this point on, it became a separate faculty and the 12 department became 11 departments.
>1800 AD: The Industrial Revolution of Great Britain. It was a painful blow to the magus world but knowledge and technology becoming more complex is a good thing. It was the most damaging form of attack to the Holy Church, who increased it's influence with its "Singular World View", so we even supported it. At this point there was an internal conflict on whether to accept this industrial revolution. Later this became cause of the divide between the Aristocratic Faction and the Democratic Faction. It was impossible to ignore the new genre of Modern Magecraft Theory and it filled the slot of the empty 12th department. However, although it was added as the 12th department, because modern magecraft was looked down upon, this department does not have a lord assigned to it at this point.
>1994 AD: Lord El-Melloi dies in a minor ritual called the Grail War in Japan. Seriously?
>2004 AD: The follow-up 5th Grail War begins. Rumored that the Third Magic was recreated. Seriously!?
>2015 AD: The Grand Order declared in a parallel word.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22662580
>>The night before AD: The user of the First Magic is Born
Guys, its confirmed. Jesus is the First Magic user.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22662862
Every time I'm reminded of Blackmore's death-by-retcon, I want to punch someone

[Anonymous No.]

>>22662942
Holy shit they are trying to shit on literally everything.
At least they mentioned that GO was in a parallel world, so the view being stated is the mainline Fate world of CT 2015.

[Anonymous No.]

Reading Tsukihime for the first time and I have to wonder if I have the shit taste of if this is part of the infamous Nasu prose I can't get into. For the record, the Arcueid route was all around great and I figured the rest would be the same quality. Ciel route dipped significantly but it still had some redeeming moments. Now I've finished the Akiha route and damn, that single-handedly made me want to drop. Is the rest good and that was just a fluke? Or should I expect more frustrating Shiki-isms?

[Anonymous No.]

>>22663125
>Now I've finished the Akiha route and damn, that single-handedly made me want to drop.
You have the shit taste.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22663134
Fuck. Well now I know. Back to FGO with me.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22663109
FGO was said to be a parallel world of F/SN long ago (which lead to Sanda's afterword in vol 3 being "how many FGO elements i can use?"). The timeline in the Mats is F/SN timeline, Clock Tower 2015 is Tsuki/Mahoyo though.

[Anonymous No.]

>has been saying for ages Nasu insists to call the 5 magic as a shortened way of 5 modern magic (as in the Age of Men) and claims is incompatible with Age of Gods so is only performed by modern human
>lots of shitposting about NOOOOOO the users were from the Ages of Gods from idiots who are EOP and suck BL headcanon

>also stated the end Age of Gods is linked exclusively to Solomon's death and Goetia keeping his corpse around was messing up with it
>NOOO but MUH EXTELLA MUH INFODUMP IN BABYLONIA when that was only speculation and stated was that a theory to build up the answer and weren't sure, but Nasu wrote the story how the "Ages of Gods ended" in FGO which ends with Solomon but ignore that

Now the material vindicates me even though Nasu left it clear before, I feel good, bros.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22662867
>900 AD: Justeaze, the Holy Maiden of the Einzbern is born. The Third Magic that has been told over 1000 years is finally proven.
As to clarify, it was a theory that only existed through Justaze, it didn't exist beforehand.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22663399
Sounds like you're an idiot who thinks there's only one Age of Gods and were too autistic to understand context that others were using.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22663162
It is always weird, since things said in SN no longer make sense since both timelines were firmly split.
Well, CT 2015 being Mahoyo based is ideal.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22663399
>lots of shitposting about NOOOOOO the users were from the Ages of Gods
Nobody said that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22663426
But there was?
There were off shots in some island with the lingering mysteries, that resembled the Ages of Gods but weren't. Britain had the "Age of Faeries."

Are you one of the wankers who got their headcanon busted? The first magic practicer is stated in Mahoyo as the first one with (modern era) magic ever. He was born a day before the turn of AD.

This crumbles any headcanon about the Einzberns. I mean no wonder Marisbury Animusphere looked down the Third, his Astromancy magecraft is even older than the Ages of Gods.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22663467
Well, for CT2015
>「2015年の時計塔」は月姫、魔法使いの夜よりの世界です。
>あの世界では「現代を守ために●●」した人物がいるため、FGOは発生しません。
>その成果を誰も知ることはなかったけど、彼は過去も未来も守ったわけである。

>「2015年の時計塔」は月姫、魔法使いの夜よりの世界です。

[Anonymous No.]

>>22663109
>At least they mentioned that GO was in a parallel world
No, they mentioned the Grand Order is declared on a parallel world, not that the inciniration didn't affect them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22663652
The whole idea is that no such thing should ever happen, and it typically cannot.
If we look at the overall structure of the Nasuverse, that timeline should've been nuked.
But nope, monies.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22663614
>その成果を誰も知ることはなかったけど、彼は過去も未来も守ったわけである。
Flauros saved Tsukihime and Mahoyo. Apologize.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22663658
That thing happened, though. They speak about it in Zero event. Same as KnK. For Mahoyo and Tsukihime only >>22663614 Lev saved them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22663659
I see no Mahoyo nor Tsukihime here pal.
Fuck him and the kusoge his in.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22663659
He saved F/SN timeline as well. Lostroom booklet mentioned his death.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22663668
Read >>22663614
>「2015年の時計塔」は月姫、魔法使いの夜よりの世界です。

>>22663673
Even if he dies there, inciniration still happens because the humanity foundation is the same for FSN and FGO (and KnK too apparently).

[Anonymous No.]

The Adventure of Lord El-Melloi II
- The man who ate god -
Winter 2020

[Anonymous No.]

>>22663659
Is that event really a crucial point of every timeline?

[Anonymous No.]

So, after understanding everything now, the answer is clear.
Nasu is a hack, this is completely ridiculous multiverse building.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22663743
Hell yeah! Is this the Gray story or something new?

[Anonymous No.]

>>22663911
Dunno, we can only wait

[Anonymous No.]

>>22663893
>Nasu is a hack
Took you long enough

[Anonymous No.]

>>22663911
It's "the adventure of Lord El-Melloi II" (no more case files) so it should be about Waver. That and the background text don't sound like it would be Gray's story though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22663941
Interesting. I liked the anime original stuff well enough, and though it was kind of shallow I felt it was like that since they were busy catching people up to speed. A season of an original case with the slower pacing to give it time to breathe could be what the setting needs since I really liked the whole idea of laid back Clock Tower adventures.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22663743
2020年冬 事件簿新作预告
二世的冒险 吞噬神的男人

背景文字:
拔锚许可
三大魔术协会共食开始
禁忌失态
我们的世界才能安定
那个岛的门打开
百倍扩大 阿特拉斯的六源之名

>google translate
Winter 2020 Event Book Preview
The Adventure of II The Man Who Devoured God

Background text:
Anchor permission
Three magic associations start eating together
Contraindication
Our world can be stable
The door to that island is open
A hundred times the name of the six sources of Atlas

[Anonymous No.]

>>22663969
Hmm are they doing the Zepia stuff then?

[Anonymous No.]

>>22663935
I've said it many times, I just like having more examples.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22663885
yes? bbqing your history without survivors to replace the planet with your own is pretty big deal.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22663992
Seems like it will be a sequel/spin-off of Case Files. The title is changed too.

[Anonymous No.]

There, maybe now all the secondaries will finally shut the fuck up about the same person question.

Though, who drew this? It's Eumenes' anime design, but the artwork itself doesn't look like it's either Jun Nakai's anime artstyle or Sakamoto Mineji's book art.

[Anonymous No.]

Olga's Magic Circuit is literally Manaka but worse. Also she knows Atlas alchemy too and her birthday is unknown.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22664035
>Though, who drew this?
森井しづき Morii Shizuki

[Anonymous No.]

>>22660264
>Bringing in fgo
Fuck off trash

[Anonymous No.]

>>22662539
Can you scan the booklet?

[Anonymous No.]

>>22664038
No mention of her mother?

[Anonymous No.]

>>22664089
No, as far as i know

[Anonymous No.]

>>22664035

[Anonymous No.]

>>22664351
Hold your sword like a normal person you fucking edgelord.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22664351
>>22664035
Huh, he didn't have the white streaks in his hair until Case Files anime, was it deliberately to make him look more different from Waver then?

[Anonymous No.]

>>22664015
Why should it happen in every timeline though?

[Anonymous No.]

>>22664077
Afraid not. I don't really have anything to do it with. Sorry.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22664683
Because Goetia exists in every timeline..?

[Anonymous No.]

So these are Marlon Wayan's stats, what's the thing next to A+ and what's the thing next to E?

[Anonymous No.]

>>22664814
A+ is his magic circuits quality while E is quantity

[Anonymous No.]

>>22663992
What exactly happens with Zepia in the novels?

[Anonymous No.]

>>22664038
Goddammit she's so underused. We need a series about her and Reines.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22664038
Manaka was E she's E- so it's barely any difference. She has potential to be a complete monster but I guess her personality is too soft.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22665219
Maybe the mention of the three institutes might bring her back for something. I do hope we get more of the Wandering Sea at least.

[Anonymous No.]

You can tell this anime was made by the Aldnoah guys. How many times do you expect Waver to get totally fucked up next season?

[Anonymous No.]

>>22665280
It's his fate to get totally fucked up at least once a week. Can't wait for inevitable gangrape by female students one day.

[Anonymous No.]

So can someone explain Textures to me? I'm confused about whether they are different dimensions or different Worlds ever since they said how Olympus existed in a Texture of the World

[Anonymous No.]

>>22665565
got a pic here that shows my thoughts (not mine btw, a friend made it)

[Anonymous No.]

>>22665744
made an error,
>they are the true planet's core creation
meant to be
>they aren't the true planet's core creation

[Anonymous No.]

>>22665565
here's a pic to better show my thoughts, a friend made this not me

[Anonymous No.]

>>22662875
>>1000 AD: The prodigy child Barthomeloi arrives at the Clock Tower. The groundwork for the Aristocratic classes of Magus is formed.

I thought she was a human. How is she a thousand or so years old

[Anonymous No.]

>>22664035
>There, maybe now all the secondaries will finally shut the fuck up about the same person question.
Exactly what I thought when I saw this.

[Anonymous No.]

>1000 AD: The prodigy child Barthomeloi arrives at the Clock Tower. The groundwork for the Aristocratic classes of Magus is formed.
I thought she was a human. How did she live so long

[Anonymous No.]

Since Luvia is Rin's rival, Rin (and Sakura's circuits) should also be B+ on both parameters?

[Anonymous No.]

>>22665806
I'm reposting this from BL, essentially though nearly everything in that image is wrong
"True Earth": As far as we know, underneath ALL the layers, the Earth should just be a big smoldering rock floating around in outer space, there's nothing mystical or inherently more "true" about that.

"Layer - own cosmology [...]": This is some wild conjecture, and I'd say faulty one at that. Regarding the Ishtar thing, it's not because it's the AoG Venus that it's a "copy, not a real planet", but rather because what she does is she pulls the "concept of venus" and loads it up as a venus-shaped bullet, that effectively comes out as shooting the planet. I'll get to why the cosmology thing isn't correct either later on, though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22666170
"Single universe": Okay so let me just say, I understand where he's coming from here, but it's not correct. The "Each alternate world is in fact another layer of the planet" obviously comes from the concept of lostbelts (where alternate timelines are placed upon the planet just like textures are), but I don't believe it's right to just extrapolate it like this. Lostbelts are a very specific case - one we still don't fully understand - but it's safer to not include conjecture based on them in stuff like this. Regarding the universes, we already know that timelines exist adjacent to each other in a "tree of time" of sorts. If one timeline branches too far from the rest, it gets pruned since it's no good. However, there are also different "trunks" of this tree (is probably the easiest way to explain it), or at least that's the common consensus so as to explain the "alternate versions" such as Prototype, Prillya, EXTRA, Tsukihime, etc. Bottom line though is that timeline = texture is not correct, even more so when one timeline includes several textures (our "main timeline" has at least 4 textures layered on the planet).

"Pruning": The one correct thing in this image, I guess, is that it's the world itself doing the pruning of timelines. But to be more precise, it's the human counter force, Alaya, which is implied (if not outright confirmed) to be responsible. In order words, the reason timelines get pruned and cater to human history is because the human order, and the human collective will to survive, is what governs timelines. However, one thing that's very important here...

Gaia does NOT have a reality marble. This is some weird fanon which became pretty widespread (on sites like Reddit especially) a long time ago, and I'm not sure where it comes from (maybe Gil/Ea stuff?). There's no gaia/earth RM, it's just the planet with magical layers on top of it which dictate how the laws of physics work.
Now, it's also correct, I guess, to say that it "functions by its own rules", but we'll get to that as well.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22666173

Based on the above now, we can also safely take apart the Imaginary Number blurb. The planet isn't a self-internalized universe unto itself, timelines aren't "islands" located "on" the planet, and just in general, this is not how INS works. The only reason we can "travel to alternate timelines" through it is because these timelines are literally fastened to the surface of the planet in FGO, so when you dive into INS (and enter what is effectively a pocket/deeper dimension), and then resurface at another place, ending up in a lostbelt, it's the same as driving from point A to point B on the surface, you just dove under the big obstacles in your way.

Now, as for the cosmology I mentioned earlier, and the "physical universe" part of the image... See, the real answer is that we just don't know EXACTLY how it all works related to this, but there are many implications, what with the human texture deciding the physical laws of the universe (obviously this applies to space as well or it wouldn't make any sense), timelines are governed by alaya (meaning that if a timeline gets pruned because earth is bad, space goes with it), the whole trichiliocosm = supercluster or whatever thing from Suzuka's NP and the Fantasy Trees and all that stuff - all of this just more or less implies that all of space (to a certain extent, observable universe perhaps?) plays by humanity's, or rather the current earth texture's rules, aka its laws of physics. That's not to say that different planets can't have weird-ass stuff of their own (like what the fuck is ORT and Velber really), but as far as the implications go, it's not a case of "multiple spheres of different laws of physics".

Of course, that last bit here is also conjecture and a bit of guessing, and I might've missed some stuff while looking over this quickly, but point is that it's at the very least really incorrect.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22666088
Probably one of Lorelei's ancestors, not the woman herself. It's not like the Barthomelois are only allowed to produce one prodigy ever and then they can't have any more for the rest of time.
Or Nasu forgot his own writing again. Whichever answer suits your purposes better, I guess.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22664683
Solomon exists in every timeline, in fact his death brings an end to the Ages of Gods, and the destruction of most mystery. His seething demons exist in every timeline too.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22666170
>>22666173
"True" Earth maybe hollow now. At least that's the Animusphere family thesis and is being hinted all over LB5 and in Case Files with the Spirit Bomb Albion. Hollow earth theory.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22666235
that could just be one of the many textures of the World though

[Anonymous No.]

>>22666250
"The celestial bodies are hollow" is on the chant.

That aside, I'm interested to see if Jesus was the first magician, because the true ether clumps was attributed to first magic right? While the last one disappeared on Britain on King Arthur's time could it be the Grail Galahad retrieved and returned? Also it would make sense God (the Root-not necessarily the consciousness of Ryougi which could be more limited but the Throne beyond thing or the Other side) sends two people as his emissaries: Solomon who gives the model of magecraft to preserve knowledge and steps to join him and whose deaths fucks the Ages of Gods, and Jesus who became the first one with this power as example for humans (mages) to copy? It does make the Holy Church look heretical though if both Jesus and Solomon are mages who cared about mage things and they took advantage because mages got weakened after saving the world from Crimson Moon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22665219
Maybe next thing they'll do, it introduces younger Kirsch. He should be younger than Olga.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22663109
Holy shit they are trying to shit on literally everything.

how so ?

[Anonymous No.]

I'm actually surprised that Reines circuits are already A rank. I was expecting B-C really. Her circuits are still maturing and she wasn't supposed to have that much raw power. If she masters her eyes she's going to be top tier.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22666088
Barthoelmellois are a family, Lorelei is just the most recent one

[Anonymous No.]

>>22666756
Her brother was top tier, just stupid. He got fucked hard BECAUSE his circuits were good.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22665306
>female
Aldnoah staff would give equal opportunity molestation.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22667242
We had mobure fodder in the first episode with the graverobber guy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22667303
You forgot Melvin who is yandere for Waver?

[Anonymous No.]

>>22667237
He got fucked up because he acted like a retard.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22667317
Yandere? He memes around but he doesn't actually do shit to him. And he's only really around for this arc, unless they decide to beef up his presence in the anime because people like him or something.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22666186
>>22667077
That makes sense, I immediately just thought of Lorelei for some reason

[Anonymous No.]

>>22663658
The branches of Fate work start diverging from each other in the 20th century mostly, the panhistory is shared, whatever attacks panhistory would fuck them up regardless. Minor shit like "uh there was 1 or 5 grail wars" don't make any difference to the consesus of history and is written under the same label.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22665565
Let me just give you the answer you really want because everybody else is in fucking denial.

Textures make zero sense at all and are just an excuse Nasu came up with why pantheons and legends that would contradict themselves are all real anyway.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22668737
This is the lore we have to work with.
All to make a cashcow work in canon.
None of this was planned in 2015, I guarantee it.

[Anonymous No.]

My heart is always so fulfilled this time of year.

[tsukihimecountdown No.]

Hey there it is me again.
No, I am not going to get on that date shit again.
I just want to know something.
You know, I already checked on the last thread, and nobody talked about it.
Why the fuck no one mentioned this here? I also think no other place mentioned it as well.
https://twitter.com/Merem110/status/1207889249854312449
Anyway, the twitter says nothing about what it actually is.
>It was a secret presentation of a game he was expecting a lot.
>19 scenes and 4 heroines were shown
>There was a 魔眼発動シーン (Mystic Eyes activation scene) shown
I am not saying this is an indication of anything, if there is anyone here that can confirm me:
Was there any post confirmation about what the heck is this shit?
I mean I wouldn't be suprised if it was like, a new Fate work being shown yet again.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22636374
why do you do this to me anon

[Anonymous No.]

>>22670167
Is there no further information on it?
Surely somebody who saw it would spill the beans.

[tsukihimecountdown No.]

>>22670180
I don't think people would expect it on a Fate celebration event, so they probably went unprepared and couldn't take photos and that jazz.
And well, everybody was distracted with Kirschtaria dick, nobody even payed attention.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22670199
True, his dick is pretty distracting.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22670199
>couldn't take photos
taking photo is prohibited at some specific stage/corners though

[tsukihimecountdown No.]

>>22670317
Yes, that is why say nobody was prepared, cause you always have that one guy that puts a secret camera inside his ass.

[Anonymous No.]

They have a chance to do the right thing then on this NYE stream then.
I mean, they have the material ready so there is no real reason to actually not do it, besides being stingy as fuck.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22670317
Yeah. Too bad since i really want to see the 3 mins animated video of Last Episode by ufotable.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22670371
Have they ever announced any non-Fate thing at that stream before? Because its name is Fate Project NYE TV special and it's 100% Aniplex. This year NYE stream will only last for two hours (like two years ago) and also have a special talk with Fate VAs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22670447
Well, there were never something non-Fate to announce before, so I don't know. It will have non-FGO things at least, like a preview of HF3 and the trailer to SF OVA.
I'm not saying that we should already go aboard the hype train and expect wonderful things, but it isn't impossible.
Like I said, they have the knife and the cheese, they just had to go and cut it and give us a little slice.

[Anonymous No.]

https://www.aniplex.co.jp/fateproject/
Fate Project End of Year 2019 TV Special (22:00 - 24:00 JST)
- Host: Akabane Kenji, Tanaka Minami
- Guest: Sugiyama Noriaki, Kawasumi Ayako, Shitaya Noriko, Shimazaki Nobunaga, Takahashi Rie
- The theme of this year is "the big Year-End party of Fate"
- It will have the first terrestrial broadcast of Babylonia ep 0, latest information on Camelot movie, highlights of HF3 delivered by the cast, Fate/strange Fake animated CM and maybe more

[Anonymous No.]

>>22670637
>maybe more
That was that made me think that something else entirely could happen.
But well, again, not 100% on it.

[Anonymous No.]

So if Jesus is the first Magician and Solomon's death = end of the Ages of God (and among the description was a separation with the "truth" associated with the close distance to the Root) does this mean Aoko was right about God and the Root after all?
Void Shiki then isn't really the Root but a small and very narrow manifestation. It also explains why she's ignorant of anything outside Earth.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22670996
>Void Shiki then isn't really the Root but a small and very narrow manifestation.
This has been obvious from the very start.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22670996
Aoko is the voice of the highest God of all, Nasu.

[Anonymous No.]

https://twitter.com/makoto_sanda/status/1211225408823275520
And Sanda just made an official tweet about this, still no clarification about the format though

[Anonymous No.]

>>22670637
so is anyone here gonna stream it or am i gonna have to invest in a VPN?

[Anonymous No.]

>>22671802
It's on TokyoMX so just use any stream link of that channel

[Anonymous No.]

>>22670371
Zero chance because Tsukihime is not an Aniplex title

[Anonymous No.]

So apparently there's a mistake in Case Files material page 27. Here is the correction from Sanda
>【訂正】『ロード・エルメロイⅡ世の事件簿material』初版本文について、入稿後に誤字が発覚したため、この場を借りて訂正させてください。

>p27上段
>誤:達成の際に生まれた副産物
>正:挑戦の際に生まれた副産物

>となります。
>本当に申し訳ありません。
https://twitter.com/makoto_sanda/status/1211271686898647040

[Anonymous No.]

>>22671212
Oh, fuckin nice

[Anonymous No.]

>Magic Circuits/Quality: EX (Does not mean it's the best quality)
>Magic Circuits/Quantity: EX (See above)
>Magic Circuits/Composition: The sort of normal that appears abnormal at first glance. While it looks like a sort of mutation, in reality it's a completed mishmash of a puzzle assembled from all the dropped pieces from a period of a thousand and eight hundred years.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22669371
Textures are probably like the second worst lore after pruning.
You have shit like Surtr, being made a big deal out of and his material pages stating he can burn the entire planet and the like, but all he did in the normal timeline is a set a texture on fire.

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>>22670167
>>22670199
>>22670329
>>22670371
When are you going to leave the bargaining stage?

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>>22671212
>I never would have thought I would hear the name of the Rokugen(lit. Six Origin) of Atlas at a place like this.
>Tangere! Expand the Logic Detection Network and the Ether Collection Zone by a hundredfold!

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>>22672624
lostbelt Surtr can because he absorbed Fenrir. Normal one is STILL gaia weapon against gods who can do everything the Sefar could PLUS FIRE.

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>>22669371
>None of this was planned in 2015, I guarantee it.
Didn't FHA come out a decade before that?

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https://twitter.com/TMitterOfficial/status/1211417992682041348
Adventures is a new novel series and a sequel to the original. Specific setting unknown.

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>>22675755
Oh shit, good to know that there's more stuff to look forward to from Sanda, though I'm surprised he's sticking with the same characters.

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>>22675795
Eh, he likes Waver I guess, and Urobuchi is too busy with his gay Taiwanese puppets.

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>>22675755
>tfw TM translations are so cursed that the sequel is being announced and the original isn't even halfway translated, and its translator has taken a break from it

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>While it is a mechanical contraption, Kirschtaria's magical energy is needed for it to be operated. Regardless of whether someone else has magical energy or not, it won't be possible for it to be operated other wise even by accident.
>As such there is no mechanical safety devices. You can say that it uses magical energy-verification.
[...]
>While it is born from modern technology, copious amount of magical theories has been incorporated.
>The black orb (does not reflect any light) is constantly hovering, when magical energy is supplied to it it would simulate the cosmos and allow one to gaze into its abyss by using both the physical and magical lenses, which would allow the user to harness pseudo-cosmo power from it.

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So if Jesus was the user of the first magic, does that mean that the whole "Turning water into wine" is a demonstration of that magic? (in the Fate universe)
Does the Church know that?
Tbh Jesus being the first magic user sounds kinda silly

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>>22676999
>spoiler
Yeah, i think it's still probably going to be an OC

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>>22676999
is it confirmed to be Jesus?
or somebody else born around the same time? it wouldn't be Judas or anything right?

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>>22676999
I'm sure normal magecraft can do that.

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>>22677016
It would make thematic sense because one of his titles was "Second Solomon."

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>>22675755
where can I pirate the raw novels anyway, nyaa only has the manga I think

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>>22677013
>Yeah, i think it's still probably going to be an OC
Super bait and switch. Having the timeline say that he was born a day before, him being the First Magician, the miracles Jesus performed that were deemed impossible at the time (remember, Magecraft was probably not as hidden during that time), it adds up. Personally, the reveal was just stupid. I would rather have some work that involved the supposed successor, which is apparently alive, tell the story of the First Magic and how Jesus was the First Magician, with the classic Nasu rewrite. I think that would make things more believable and less... ridiculous. Like Nasu genderbending King Arthur is much more believable and less ridiculous when it's explained that she threw away her humanity and girlhood in order to rule the kingdom, thus hiding her own gender (to act like a King), and then having her route be the steps to regain that.
>>22677016
>The night before AD: The user of the First Magic is Born.
When you say something like this, it's basically confirmed.
>>22677041
I would say no. Transmutation in the Fateverse is one thing, but changing the molecular structure of water to wine as simply as that is definitely Magic. Making objects out of magical energy already sucks, and something as simple as Reinforcing an existing object by pouring magical energy is so hard it can kill you if not done right. He basically made fermented grapes out of water by pouring magical energy into it. That's enough to be considered Magic because otherwise world hunger should be solved in Nasuverse.

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>>22663148
You're almost at the end, you should really finish it.

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>>22676999
I thought Jesus was the Third Magician and the Einzberns just took it off of him?

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>>22670371
>>22670447
>>22671979
Why did Tsukihime and Mahoyo get forgotten by Aniplex and Nasu?

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>>22677843
Nasu hates Tsukihime.

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>>22677843
Tsukihime and Mahoyo don't belong to Aniplex so Aniplex don't need to remember them

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>>22677843
Because Geneon/whoever picked up after them bought the rights not Aniplex.

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>>22677843
Why do you always ask the dumbest questions?

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>>22677153
Eh. I think Medea Lily and Circe can easily do that.

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>>22677843
Honestly I wonder how much of the mahoyo script is still from the original draft, only slightly modified.

Like if I didn't know Nasu wrote it I'd never assume it shares an author with some of the new stuff he's done. Especially considering the heavy amount of third person narration.

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>>22677843
I'm interested in why Aniplex has forgotten about Girls' Work.

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>>22678524
>Medea Lily and Circe
>Both lived in the Age of Gods
>Both characters of mythology and have divinity
>Age of Gods is a time when Magecraft was basically Magic anyway
>Modern day versions are servants, which are close to Magic
You're fucking stupid.

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>>22681022
I mean, I know that it's because GW isn't Fate, but still.

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>>22681022
GW had potential to be good
I'm still mad