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>> No.22541593

It's amazing how easy it is to delude yourself into thinking that your comprehension is a lot better than it really is.

Watched Kemono Friends raw a while back and thought I understood almost everything. Rewatching it now with Japanese subs and realizing just how many words I didn't know and by extension how many sentences I couldn't have understood (despite thinking I did) because of it.

I've had this experience with a few shows now.

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>> No.22541620

>>22541593
wait till u go back to watching with eng subs LOL

>> No.22541624

>>22541593
I'm always painfully aware of just how incomprehensible everything is which makes it frustrating since I've been at it for a year but to be fair I only invest a couple hours at most per day which is clearly nowhere near enough.

>> No.22541632

quiz you don't even belong here anymore since you learned japanese and you're bored of japanese media

>> No.22541633

makes me feel slightly sick when i remember that after i reach the point when im decent at reading stuff and watching with jap subs i'll essentially be at the starting line in terms of listening lol

>> No.22541641

>>22541595
8/10 show pretty good (watched it raw and i know japanese)

>> No.22541644

>>22541593
>turn on english subs
>suddenly everything is comprehensible
naruhodo i see

>> No.22541646

>>22541641
name a better show

>> No.22541648

>>22541632
I mined like 10 words today and I am still consuming regularly
yeah I have motivational downs but everyone does this is my home

>> No.22541649

>>22541646
attack on titan

>> No.22541651

>>22541649
I disagree

>> No.22541656

do you have the word 譫妄 on your deck, qm?

>> No.22541672

I honestly think LoGH is the absolute pinnacle of anime and will never be trumped by anything and part of the reason for that is simply because the environment changed
you can't actually make a show appealing to adults dealing with intriguing themes with the same breadth as LoGH anymore because everything new has to appeal to the zoomer brain desiring flashing colors and two dimensional transparent characters
there is a lot more factors to it but really you won't convince me that there is even a possibility something better than LoGH could ever be made again

>> No.22541675

not reading that stfu

>> No.22541683

>>22541656
don't have it actually

>> No.22541702

>>22541633
why aren't you doing any listening?

>> No.22541715

>>22541702
frankly im lazy and it feels kinda pointless when my reading comprehension isn't that good either. i'm thinking of watching a few episodes of easy shows that ive already seen like mitsuboshi colors or gochuumon wa usagi desuka per day raw but i havent gotten around to it.

>> No.22541719

>>22541672
any other anime similar to LoGH?

>> No.22541722

>>22541719
not sure I haven't seen any

>> No.22541726

only mined 11 words today despite wanting to do at least 20 cause i watched like 4 hours of competitive csgo fuck me

>> No.22541731

>>22541726
can't believe i used to watch this pointless boring bullshit too.

>> No.22541734

>>22541731
i love it, been watching it since 2014. even went to a major once. it's not pointless if it gives u enjoyment tbqh.

>> No.22541738

>>22541734
cope

>> No.22541740
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>> No.22541742

>>22541738
what is the point of japanese content

>> No.22541749

>>22541742
learning japanese

>> No.22541752

>>22541749
cope

>> No.22541767

I'm confident I have the raw intelligence to have become a world competing master at whatever I would have liked if I simply put my mind to something and really dedicated myself to it
whether it's sports or e-sports or whatever the fuck and I got a taste of my raw potential a couple years ago when I was obsessed with a certain thing and achieved something really remarkable
but afterwards I drifted into this never-ending mediocrity where I only wasted my time listening to music, watching movies, playing games and just burning up my lifetime with stupid distractions and it has resulted in me not realizing any of my potential, I really regret it
it's not too late for me to turn things around but I think my brain structure is just fucked now, I'm a zoomer without an attention span addicted to social media incapable of concentrating on something for more than 20 minutes
makes me feel terrible

>> No.22541768

>>22541742
something you can brag about and show off which you can't meaningfully do watching a gay pointless game like cs

>> No.22541775

>>22541767
if your iq is only 124 then that's not really true. there's millions of people out there with an iq that is 2 standard deviations higher or more and they would all crush you given similar time investment which is a given near the top of any sport or field

>> No.22541776

>>22541767
super genius yet doesn't realize there are more components at play than intelligence when it comes to being good at sports or even video games lol

>> No.22541778

>>22541767
it doesn't take that long to build your attention span back up, just a few days of cutting any social media/youtube etc will reset it.

>> No.22541780

>>22541767
easier to just say ur retarded

>> No.22541807

which of these shows should i watch next? i tried to pick ones that i'm pretty sure i won't think about a year from now because of how forgettable they'll be.

Highschool of the Dead
Himouto Umari-chan
Jin (drama)
Kekkon Dekinai Otoko (drama, already 3/4 done)
Kenichi Mightiest Disciple
Kimagure Orange Road
Megalo Box
Mother (drama)
Rage of Bahamut
Devil is a Part-Timer
Ushio to Tora
Nihonjin no Shiranai Nihongo (drama)

>> No.22541815

>>22541807
kenichi and kimagure are good the rest sucks

>> No.22541820

>>22541815
Jamal detected.

>> No.22541835

>>22541807
スクールデイズ

くまみこ

異世界スマホ

>> No.22541847

>>22541593
and this is why anime with japanese subs are 神レベル for actually improving

>> No.22541871

>>22541633
not if you start listening now
dude just pick some drama CDs, an otaku podcast or anime radio show and have it playing by default when you’re not doing anything or mindlessly surfing the web
whatever you learn through your other methods will become audible over time and your listening can gradually improve that way
you don’t have to wait

>> No.22541875

i have not consumed a single piece of content other than japanese subbed anime since i started this shit a year ago (eng subbed anime doesnt count)

>> No.22541879

>>22541807
umaru

>> No.22541887

condensing my passive audio

>> No.22541889

>>22541633
I never got "decent" at reading but I learned 5k words while reading every day for 8 months and when I started trying to listen it was a goddamn nightmare. Maybe if I read more and had like triple the vocabulary then transitioning to listening would be much easier? But even basic phrases that I could instantly read I couldn't process while listening and that's still somewhat true after 3 months of listening but I've noticed significant improvement. I wouldn't advise you wait, but I bet there's people who know way more than me here whose experiences contradict mine so I don't know, just go with your gut.

>> No.22541894

This 「という」shit makes my thinking part hurt.

>> No.22541904

>>22541875
hey if that’s all you’re interested in go for it

>> No.22541908

>>22541894
そういうのは慣れていくものだ
「感じる」が大事

>> No.22541916

can't believe Forvo is fucking dead

>> No.22541917

anyone know that feel when you don't get enough input so you fail like half your mature cards even though they're super common and easy words

>> No.22541921

>>22541917
yes

>> No.22541922

JSLの投稿
ラノベを読めるのは難しすぎ
それだけです

>> No.22541926

delete anki

>> No.22541932

>>22541889
>reading without listening as a beginner
it’s prob because your inner reading voice was fucked up
when the only japanese audio you’re used to is your own gaijin accented japanese, that means when you finally listen to real japanese your brain will struggle to understand it
it’s the same how japanese people can’t understand native english speakers saying simple sentences like “i have a pen” at normal speed because they’ve only ever “read” it like 「アイ ハブ ア ペン」in an unnatural japanese accent

>> No.22541955

I thank mattvsjapan every day that I got into raw anime early

>> No.22541976

>>22541955
i also like it raw

>> No.22541987

>>22541955
>>22541976
ご覧になって
>>22541593

>> No.22542104

Who said Japanese was hard? Quality reading right here.
https://streamable.com/70jus

>> No.22542111

>>22542104
is that what your dad sounds like after a bender

>> No.22542117

>>22542111
lmao

>> No.22542124

>>22542111
harsh

>> No.22542126

>>22542111
what's a bender

>> No.22542131

quiz if you're looking for good anime check out the last airbender. you'll enjoy it more than most shows you've watched.

>> No.22542133

>>22542111
lol

>> No.22542203

>>22541916
what do you mean

>> No.22542216

>>22542203
it's back now

>> No.22542226

>>22542216
it was up and working when you posted that but i didn't say anything cuz poopie

>> No.22542231

>>22542226
it was definitely down for a couple minutes

>> No.22542239

this is interesting おっ死ぬ

>> No.22542251
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do nips really think americans look like this

>> No.22542263

>>22541277
wasabi wa japanese ga daisuki!!

>> No.22542286

>>22542251
アメリカじんといえば

ボディビルダー

>> No.22542334

tfw you post a controversial comment in japanese twitter and accidentally set off a flame war among japanese people

>> No.22542351

the good news is i’m getting more likes than the opposing side lol cool

>> No.22542399

>>22542351
what did you say (in english)

>> No.22542533

ive been away for a while, can someone give me a summary of the happenings over the last 4-5 months? i'm relieved to see qm still posting but what of the other memes on this board?

>> No.22542536

https://youtu.be/uS2hcBxo8zQ?t=1205

>> No.22542544

>>22542536
why did you post this

>> No.22542545

>>22542544
i'll post more and you can't stop me lol

>> No.22542550

>>22542536
what a bitch

>> No.22542564

>>22542545
not trying to stop you just genuinely curious what your きっかけ was

>> No.22542644

>>22542536
this is one of the primary reasons translations are terrible
you got 白痴s like this working on them

>> No.22542663

you’re welcome
https://twitter.com/calpas_oishiiii/status/1202576661734019072?s=21

>> No.22542673

>>22542533
https://streamable.com/rfbur

>> No.22542717

>>22542673
what an absolute manifestation

>> No.22542837
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22542837

huh they also do this kind of thing in japan? pretty cool

>> No.22542857

>>22542673
i forgot that i've watched this before and laughed again.

>> No.22542924

>>22542837
おかねもちはやってるよ

>> No.22542930

cheese sweet home lmfao

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22543144

the movie hit me really hard bros, i havent cry this much in years. i will protect your smile shoko ;_;

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22543152

the movie really hit me hard bros, i havent cry this much in years. i will protect your smile shoko ;_;

>> No.22543162

>>22543144
>>22543152
why did you do that

>> No.22543184

ゆにゅう

ジャガイモが

なくなった

アメリカやばいの?

>> No.22543309
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>do half of VNcore and read mango with furiganas
>"durr durr ankidrone mango iznt reading"
>Start watching animes with japanese subtitles and understand at least 90% of what they're saying, the sentences construction, etc and don't have to pause every second to understand what's going on

wtf I thought it was supposed to be harder than that

>> No.22543320

Anyone have 11 and 11.5 volumes of ようこそ実力至上主義の教室へ?

>> No.22543339

I bet the average poster on DJT knows less than 500 words

>> No.22543359

>>22543339
picking low hanging fruit won't cure your depression and lack of success in life

>> No.22543372

>>22543359
maybe you should tell that yourself

>> No.22543579

>>22543309
doubt you're understanding 90% of anything with that few words lol

>> No.22543612
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Hello. Could anyone who knows Japanese please ask this artist why their Fanbox is missing so many images that they have in their Enty and Fantia account? All 3 sites have the same price for subscription so it doesn't seem deliberate.

https://twitter.com/ekakiningen

>> No.22543810

>>22543579
I learned a lot of words by reading mangos so I know more words than just half VNcore

>> No.22543820

シャミこがわるいんだよ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zEhXs129pSE

>> No.22544100

you fucking niggers
i have the perfect song for my bro jamal, and you just had to make him prove a point

>> No.22544108

>>22544100
fuck off weirdo eceleb worshiper

>> No.22544116

im not worshiping him, i give him shit when deserved

>> No.22544145

>>22544116
cope

>> No.22544204

that one guy, you know who i'm talking about, is really cringy

>> No.22544292

keep in mind that king moe is still watching 10 episodes of anime..every.single.day. you can't win.

>> No.22544293

>>22541589
>beginner publicly trying to talk with a japanese person on social media uses あなた or attaches くん to their name
Itai yo ww

>> No.22544299

I can read 正直 too as well as thousands for other kanji 6 year olds can't

>> No.22544300

>>22544292
you realize how pathetic it is that you are tracking that shit?

>> No.22544311

>>22544292
who gives a shit when he doesn’t understand any of it

>> No.22544336

>>22544300
im not tracking anything i just see it when i check my mal homepage since we're buddies.

>> No.22544338

>>22544293
あなた urusai the fuck up, baka anonymous-くん

>> No.22544352

>>22544338
that's not what 煩い means

>> No.22544371

>>22544352
Great, all those hours of intense anime absorbing were for nothing. Thanks a lot, asshole.

>> No.22544377

moefag if he was honest w himself
>>22541593

>> No.22544403

>>22544338
いつでもいいよw
できればww

>> No.22544416

>>22544403
dekinu

>> No.22544427

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pPkXqT6Dc0g
what the fuck dolly
>use JJ card
>use TTS to get audio for sentences

>> No.22544532
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should i watch this

>> No.22544538

>>22544532
sure

>> No.22544545

>>22544532
no

you should read it instead

>> No.22544556

>>22544427
how the fuck can anyone stand to listen to that voice

>> No.22544567

>>22544556
the things we do for japanese gains

>> No.22544601

>>22544292
https://myanimelist.net/profile/ImAAnimeFan
https://myanimelist.net/profile/teshigahara
lol idk which is you but you're a giant faggot either way

>> No.22544611

>>22544556
has to be the second guy lol

>> No.22544625

https://twitter.com/amanemi_nenie/status/1203308005267320832
#MakeYamatoKotobaGreatAgain

>> No.22544653

in mpv what's the keyboard shortcut to seek to the previous/next subtitle.

>> No.22544667

>>22544653
ctrl + left/right arrow key.

i couldnt be bothered with pressing ctrl so i added this
RIGHT no-osd sub-seek 1
LEFT no-osd sub-seek -1

to my input.conf file so it's just left/right arrow

>> No.22544684

>>22544625
https://twitter.com/amanemi_nenie/status/1191669576720764928
https://twitter.com/amanemi_nenie/status/1186265347680157698
OK, this dude really wants to revive yamato kotoba. Nice spirit and attitude but it's an impossible ambition. All japan can do is make new words in yamato kotoba rather than in chinese.

>> No.22544707

>>22544684
There are many yamato kotoba tier words formed organically in colloquial environment but official word coinages by 国立国語研究所 is always 漢語.

>> No.22544725

>>22543309
Now watch something like suisei no gargantia instead of whatever moeshit you're watching now.

>> No.22544788 [DELETED] 

>

This whole Japanese thing is coming together, my reading is getting faster and the audiobook I downloaded yesterday I can some what keep up with the plot , all and all I’m finally having fun with it. #blessed #ajatt #miapproach
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-@anime_godfather
i think he's hit the second peak of the dunning kruger effect

>> No.22544803

>This whole Japanese thing is coming together, my reading is getting faster and the audiobook I downloaded yesterday I can some what keep up with the plot , all and all I’m finally having fun with it. #blessed #ajatt #miapproach
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-@anime_godfather
i think he's hit the second peak of the dunning kruger effect

>> No.22544812

imagine using more than 1 を in a sub clause

>> No.22544897

I miss jamal. How long til he comes back?

>> No.22544903

>>22544897
hopefully never

>> No.22544917

>>22544897
I hope never. Why would anyone miss that retarded spammer?

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lmao never had a day this good before (regarding young cards)

>>22544897
said he'd be gone for a week

>> No.22545126

i don't like the theme of kenichi because it's not true that the talentless can become great through hard work and even if it were true, the drive and discipline to do hard work is itself a talent. it's just complete nonsense.

>> No.22545144

>>22545126
delet this or half the sure will commit jigai

>> No.22545161

>>22545126
>the drive and discipline to do hard work is itself a talent
i was with you on the first part of the post but this is pure cope. discipline is way more nurture than nature. ask any disciplined person how they become that way and more often than not it was in large part due to being exposed to their parents working hard and having expectations of working hard placed on them from a young age.

>> No.22545169

>>22545161
>it was in large part due to being exposed to their parents working hard and having expectations of working hard placed on them from a young age.
because their parents were disciplined and that's how they raised their kids, but their kids were not disciplined as a result of their upbringing but because they inherited their parents' discipline.

>> No.22545173

>>22545126
talent only matters at the absolute top level
you might not be able to reach worldclass but you can become skilled at anything you choose if you put in enough work, no matter how talented you are

>> No.22545176

>>22545161
>this is pure cope
fucking meme spouting retard cant even use your own words
who cares if discipline is nurture, thats still just as out of your control as talent lol

>> No.22545178

>>22545173
that's hyperbole. you'd still need to be at least average in most respects.
>>22545176
this too.

>> No.22545179

>>22545169
are you having a laugh
>>22545176
if it's nurture you can nurture it yourself when you're older dipshit

>> No.22545186

>>22545179
no i just like bringing up stuff like that because it's not something most people think of and they suddenly become aware that what they think is evidence of nurture is actually hugely confounded by genes, so even if they're not convinced by it they start questioning it.

>> No.22545191

>>22545179
youre out of your mind if you think you can completely undo what your parents and environment did to you as a kid
if you got fucked up when you were young theres pretty much no coming back from that

>> No.22545206

>>22545191
i think the other guy is more right than you are wrong

>> No.22545208

>>22545191
i was a fat sack of shit my entire life up until i was 20 then i lost 100 lbs in a year. was a shit student and then got a bachelors and masters cause i decided to. it's not a dichotomy between being fucked and completely undoing all the bad shit. you can work on your flaws and get better than what you would have been otherwise. you are just defeatist as a cope cause you are too much of a lazy pussy to do anything about your circumstance.

>> No.22545209

>>22545191
>if you got fucked up when you were young theres pretty much no coming back from that
that’s why oprah was raped by her uncles raised in a ghetto shithole and grew up to be a billionaire entrepreneur right

>> No.22545225

>>22545209
sometimes short people birth tall people.

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>>22545208
based
anon this is you

>> No.22545243

>>22541767
Start taking LSD. I'm in kinda similar boat but LSD honestly changed my life. Really gave me back the kick I needed to get into gear. It also helped me with learning japanese.

>> No.22545248

>>22545231
オーキド・シゲル was prolly doingサトシ's mom in every episode behind the scenes

>> No.22545251

>>22545243
isn't it true that smart people like quiz and i wouldn't learn anything from taking lsd though

>> No.22545258

>>22544292
this

>> No.22545270

>>22544292
moe gave san gatsu no lion season 2 a 10/10, pretty based and also btfo the shit taste suckers in this thread

>> No.22545276

>>22545173
not true art is genetic

>> No.22545278

>>22545251
steve jobs took it
do you losers think you’re smarter than him

>> No.22545281

>>22545251
Well I'm certified MENSA member and I didn't really learn anything from LSD. It just showed me how amazing life can be and made me feel again the spark I had when I was younger. Made me start all the projects I planned in detail years ago but then abandoned just after start. Made me remember the dreams I had and make them feel more real so I actually started pursuing them again. I did more in those 3 months from when I took LSD than in the last 3 years. It won't really do the job for you but it will make you focused and determined enough so you can actually put in the work since that's what stopping you really. Not your lack of ability just that you're not putting in the work.

>> No.22545288

Being in law school and trying to study Japanese is muzukashii.

たくさん勉強の時間から日本語が全然話せません。

>> No.22545289

>>22545278
he also died of curable cancer cause he thought vegetables could cure him so yeah i do

>> No.22545293

>>22545251
this doesnt make any sense you might be retarded though quiz is pretty smart and reasonable about things in the logical sense

>> No.22545296

>>22544601
im the second guy add me on mal and ill see if you're able to compete with moe

>> No.22545299

>>22545293
it's a question what's nonsensical about it. i know some people talk about having mind blowing insight into stuff after taking drugs but i know i wouldn't get that so i'm asking if it'd do anything for someone smart like me

>> No.22545302

>>22545299
question cant be answered because you are not smart and actually just retarded

>> No.22545303

>>22545289
Cancer isn't curable. He might have lived longer if he went for chemo early but it'd impact his quality of life tremendously. He chose to get more out of his life earlier at the cost of earlier death. He might have regretted that choice too later when he was actually dying but it wasn't a stupid choice by any means.

>> No.22545308

sigh i wish only smart people responded to my question.

>> No.22545314 [DELETED] 

>>22545299
You're an idiot. LSD will blow your mind no matter if you're sub 80 IQ nigger or a super genius. It's not real insight too. It's just a feeling of general understanding unlike anything else.

>> No.22545315

>>22545308

>> No.22545318

>>22545303
what about zous rarely getting it then?

>> No.22545319

>>22545314
why will it blow my mind? because it'll fuck with my perception of reality? just answer the question already because what you've given me is complete snoresville shit. only angsty teens and idiots would care about that.

>> No.22545322

>>22545281
>It just showed me how amazing life can be and made me feel again the spark I had when I was younger.
how is this not learning something

>> No.22545326

>>22545303
>Cancer isn't curable.
some are like steven jobs

>> No.22545331

>>22545322
I already knew it. I just kinda forgotten it. Depends on your definition of learning.

>> No.22545332 [DELETED] 

>>22545314
lsd doesn't have the same effects for everyone

>> No.22545334 [DELETED] 

>>22545332
No it doesn't but the mindblowingness is very consistent effect.

>> No.22545335

>>22545319
found fedora tipper guy

>> No.22545344

lsd teaches you that most of the time you feel like shit compared to how you could be feeling
it shuts off neuroticism, ego and hate/fear and turns on sensitivity, curiosity and creativity

>> No.22545350 [DELETED] 

>>22545334
it solve any of my problems in the way you're suggesting. its not a panacea. it could make him even more depressed potentially

>> No.22545354 [DELETED] 

>>22545350
it didn't*

>> No.22545360 [DELETED] 

>>22545350
Yes it can make you feel bad too. But if you do it properly with the mindset that you want to change for the better there is a high chance it be a catalyzer and help you with that change.

>> No.22545362

>>22545344
this isn't really true it makes me much more neurotic. because it affects everyone differently depending on your own psychological makeup/brain functioning

>> No.22545375 [DELETED] 

>>22545350
>>22545362
you probably didn’t pay attention to set and setting
your surroundings, the music, your mental state and intentions when you take it play a huge role in how it goes

>> No.22545387

j-j dictionaries are amazing
I just wish i could read and understand the explanations in 10 seconds like e-e dictionaries

>> No.22545391

>>22545319
what to you even think your current perception of reality is a result of? do you realize that your brain is currently hallucinating your conscious reality?

>> No.22545395

>>22545387
read more and you will! it gets faster over time

>> No.22545487

this thread needs jamals high iq

>> No.22545532

i just realized i hate audio books.

>> No.22545558 [DELETED] 

>>22545375
ive done it multiple times in different settings and always had similar experiences. just doesn't affect everyone the same way as i said

>> No.22545565 [DELETED] 

>>22545558
same here, did lsd twice and shrooms probably 10 times. mostly alone but with people too. it didn't really do anything lasting for me.

>> No.22545583 [DELETED] 

>>22545565
Because you didn't expect it to. You just took them to have fun. Expectations and mindset is everything.

>> No.22545591

>>22545532
yeah they are pretty dumb and gay to listen to as a first time experience with a book (even in english) but i do like listening to books i already read as practice but maybe that’s a little what we call “passive listening”

>> No.22545608 [DELETED] 

>>22545583
this isn't true i already had believed all the propaganda about it like what you're saying before trying them

>> No.22545610 [DELETED] 

>>22545583
absolute incorrect. the first 3 times i took psychedelics i was extremely depressed and took it hoping to gain some sort of insight, revelation, whatever that would help me climb out of the pit as i'd seen anecdotes that it can help with that. i didn't go into it pessimistically at all. i'm not sure why it's so hard for you to accept that you're wrong here.

>> No.22545623

>>22545532
in japanese or just in general

>> No.22545637 [DELETED] 

>>22545610
Yeah. It's not a magic pill that will give you truth from another dimension. You need to already roughly know how to do the stuff you want to do. It just helps you get there by making imagination more real. It definitely won't be able to help everybody but it's worth a try.

>> No.22545638 [DELETED] 

>>22545610
you still haven't explained your set and setting
what environment were you in? what kind of music was playing? did you do any real introspection, priming or journaling of any kind beforehand or did you just go 'hope this works'

>> No.22545682 [DELETED] 

>>22545638
whenever i took it alone i was at home. the first time i had roughly planned out in my head specific ideas i wanted to think about because when i was researching people were saying that it lets you approach issues from a different perspective. i didn't have any music planned. it kinda went out the window since i had an ego death (or at least something approximating what people say that is). loss of a sense of self, one with the universe feeling all that shit.

the second time i wanted to do more introspection since thats was the point of it so i thought i'd add music so i dont get completely lost in the boonies. found this playlist https://www.inverse.com/article/38980-psilocybin-mushroom-playlist-research that's apparently good for it and sat in a recliner instead of laying in bed. didn't have an ego death (never got anywhere close to it again btw), was able to think about the things i wanted to think about but if anything the result was that i came to the same conclusions from a different perspective which sucked ass. third time was basically the same except i just played a bunch of pink floyd albums. after that i just took it with friends for fun.

>> No.22545716 [DELETED] 

>>22545610
>>22545682
You won't get out of depression in one day. It's a gradual process. LSD can help you make small changes. Like I tried multiple times to start taking a cold shower in the morning every day but could never stick to it and always failed. I did research on how healthy it is and knew it would be nice feeling after you get used to it. So I just took a cold bath on LSD and focused on how it felt. LSD made it more vivid and I focused on making it a very positive experience. I also made a plan to make a playlist of cool tracks to make me feel awesome and the cold showers more bearable. Now I prepare list of 7 tracks on Sunday for next week and almost never miss a cold shower in the morning and really love them. LSD really makes you focus on one specific thing so it let me really think this process through and optimize it so it would have the most success.

>> No.22545754 [DELETED] 

>>22545682
That playlist is really stupid. You should listen to YOUR favourite music not let somebody pick it for you. Remember that awesome track that you listened to hundred of times and how it made you feel but now you don't really feel it because you get used to it. On LSD you can kinda experience it for the first time again. If you want to get out of depression listen to uplifting and awesome music that really makes you feel happy. If you want to meditate and reach peace of mind do put on a meditative music sure. Just make it suit what you want to achieve.

>> No.22545833

I'm here to make an announcement.

Japanese counting system is fucking bullshit and I will never stop hating it.

>> No.22545835

been taking cold showers every single day for two years now
it gets tough during winter though

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>>22545833
Welcome to Japanese language, enjoy your stay. It's going to be a long one.

>> No.22545880

>>22545833
what is bullshit about it

>> No.22545882

>>22545880
this >>22545876 for starters

>> No.22545884

why is 11 and 12 eleven and twelve and not oneteen and twoteen

>> No.22545886

i think i'll buy an old pc so i can install a cracked win xp jpn iso on it in order to play all the old games

>> No.22545891

>>22545880
You can't just say "One thing", "Two things" etc. Everything has a hundred fucking readings, and don't even get me started on the fucking counters.

>> No.22545895

>>22545882
nothing wrong with it seems it's a sound change from 月立ち so it makes sense right, just think of it as a separate vocab it's easy for native speakers too isn't it
it's not bullshit just because you aren't used to it, it makes perfect sense in fact

>> No.22545902

dont know how to count past 10 LOL

>> No.22545903

>>22541672
What about the currently airing remake?

>> No.22545905

>>22545891
counters are easy dude they are so easy when someone cries about all the counters I just laugh at them for making a problem out of nothing
just keep reading Japanese and you get a feeling for them
btw I'm about to blow your mind: English also has counters

>> No.22545913

>>22545903
I watched it and I suppose it's not terrible, it's not even half as good as the original
they ruin a lot of good scenes by trying to make them epic to a modern audience but it just ends up being surreal cringe shit, not to mention the shitty character designs and bad VA choices
here is one scene they ruined just to give you a sense of the new style:
https://streamable.com/msds5
https://streamable.com/nen41

>> No.22545917

>>22545905
>English also has counters
What are they? When we say "twelve birds", we don't use any specific vocab to specify that birds are birds.

>> No.22545924

>>22545917
one slice of pizza
one loaf of bread
one cup of coffee
etc
anyway the only people who have problems with counters are the ones who think they need to learn all of them preemptively as if it's for an exam or something
just absorb it naturally and you'll have no problem whatsoever

>> No.22545937

>>22545391
yes. that shit is completely obvious which everyone in their entire lives deals with every night. that's why i'm asking if there's any actual revelatory shit that will happen or if it's just sensory meddling that only teenagers are wowed by.

>> No.22545966

>>22545937
It will put your mind in a state you've never felt before. It's definitely a novel experience unlike anything else. It will make it easier to think in different ways and make connections between different concepts. It's up to you what you do with that.

>> No.22545971

>>22545876
lol

>> No.22545980

reminder that years of neglecting your physical health will take its toll

>> No.22546028

>>22545924
wow this just might be the only good post qm has ever made

>> No.22546068

>>22545980
The faster i die the better

>> No.22546072

>>22546068
basado

>> No.22546108

>>22545623
in general. i feel like it drags part of the "personal" feeling out of reading books, by decreasing the reader/listener's ability to imagine what is going on, and forcing the listener to follow along with a certain rhythm, instead of reading as quickly or as slowly as they might wish.

>> No.22546109

alright gonna listen to 30 minutes from some random drama-tagged audio i downloaded from itazuraneko

>> No.22546145

i noticed that my retention rate on anki fell from close to 97% to 60% by sleeping only 5hr per night for 3 months instead of the usual 8hr.

>> No.22546155

>>22546145
duh

>> No.22546172

>>22546145
almondredditor?

>> No.22546241

>>22546108
https://youtu.be/_0twmHUvqEg?t=309

>> No.22546246

is there no japanese website for japanese subs? where do their deaf nikkaz go for their subs wtf

>> No.22546250

>>22546246
they send them to the gulags

>> No.22546267

>>22546246
probably find another hobby

>> No.22546324

>>22546246
have you ever met a deaf nip??

>> No.22546327

>>22546324
ive never met a nip

>> No.22546334

>>22546327
i rest my case

>> No.22546338

>>22546334
nips dont exist?

>> No.22546347

>>22546338
you dont need to worry about deaf nips

>> No.22546352

>>22546347
huh?

>> No.22546359

i hate watching movies, even of series i really enjoyed
it's just so much easier to bring myself to watch bite-sized episodes

>> No.22546362

>>22546359
zoom zoom zoom

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>>22546359

>> No.22546396

>>22546359
i've always been this way too man. i don't like media enough.

>> No.22546399

>>22546396
t minus ~360 days until you give up

>> No.22546407

>>22546399
idk someone said that to me a year ago but i'm still here

>> No.22546411

>>22546396
>>22546359
>>22546145
>>22546068
>>22545917
>>22545902
HAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAH

>> No.22546416

>>22546411
what?

>> No.22546426

>>22546416
What Are You Still Doing Here Like Go Emerse Dude You Need To Input HaHaHaHa

>> No.22546433

>>22546426
are you saying those posts are all me even though only the first one is

>> No.22546440

>竜女
>竜宮にいる竜王の娘。

>> No.22546444

>>22546433
no its jsut a collection of posts that i thought were funny now go emmerse

>> No.22546448

>>22546440
うんこを食べてください

>> No.22546509

*emerses my foot in your ass*

>> No.22546512

>人類にとっては小さな一歩だが、俺にとっては大きな一歩を踏み出したときだった。
i guess ln writers use references to events in contemporary history too.

>> No.22546517

中田氏

>> No.22546521

>>22546512
star wars quote right? i hate that universe.

>> No.22546537

>>22546512
uh dude i think its the other way around

>> No.22546543

just shaved my balls

>> No.22546572

>>22546537
are you saying they were referencing lns?

>> No.22546581

>>22546572
yeah neil took a copy of haruhi with him to the "moon"

>> No.22546597

>>22546543
remember to shave your ass too

>> No.22546602

>>22546597
no thanks my dude

>> No.22546609

発作的な勃起

>> No.22546615

remember to periodically examine your testicles for lumps (testicular cancer is the most common cancer in young men) and check your poo for blood

>> No.22546618

>>22546615
>he doesn't permanently cup his balls with one hand while sitting at the pc

>> No.22546619

just got to the part where frieza and gohan go head to head. they really don't make em like this any more. what a show.

>> No.22546620

>he hasnt cut off his balls yet

>> No.22546622

>>22546615
i always had blood on the last bit that comes out when i was still living a more sedentary live style
not gonna waste my time to pay some (((doc))) a visit

>> No.22546623

just took a shit and it looked like that gon guy from hxh

>> No.22546625

>>22546623
lol

>> No.22546630

>>22546619
nostalgia is blinding you.

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22546638

Anybody here pretty fluent and wanna make some money? I have 6 pages of a video game instruction manual that I need someone to either translate or summarize for me. I can't find any good translation services online but I'm willing to pay.

The text is sumo-related too so it has a lot of sumo vocab.

>> No.22546640

>>22546638
i'm not fluent

>> No.22546644

>>22546638
>Anybody here pretty fluent
lol

>> No.22546649

>>22546638
>I can't find any good translation services online
yeah right. more like every website you found had translators that are asking standard rates while you want to pay some schmuck 1/3 market rate lol

>> No.22546650

i just feel the shit out, so i have no idea what the words translate to

>> No.22546655

>>22546649
Nope. I legit can't find one. I'm perfectly happy to pay whatever market price is.

>> No.22546663

the market price is so fucking low that you wont eat if you live in 1st world country

>> No.22546664

>>22546638
i am hit me up

>> No.22546668

might fuck around and delete my anki deck

>> No.22546670

>>22546664
but how

>> No.22546676

>>22546638
youre going to hafta learn nip for yourself my dude
a good translator needs to be even better at the target language than he is in the source language
the issue there is that everyone who learns nip is an autist so you cant rely on them to know proper english

>> No.22546677

>>22546668
delete yourself from this plain of existence haha

>> No.22546679

first time i've seen 嗚呼 written out

>> No.22546682

>>22546676
I don't need a full or even accurate translation. I just need someone who knows enough to understand how to play the game and then baby-bird the info to me. I know a little japanese but not enough to read it myself.

>> No.22546683

>>22546679
what in the fuck

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>> No.22546691

>>22546679
lol fuck nihongo

>> No.22546692

>>22546682
if you can't solve your own issues, you don't know nihongo.

>> No.22546697

>>22546638
post a page

>> No.22546698

>>22546638
you can msg me on discord @ ciaran#4077 i can do it :)

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>>22546697
Pic related

>>22546698
My discord is Ottawa Modified Death#2087

I'd send you a message but I dunno if that's actually you or someone posting your discord, so just send me a friend request if it's you.

>> No.22546704

>>22546698
this is ur best bet might be literally the only person itt that knows some japanese

>> No.22546705

how do i become a 遅漏 to maximize nihongo gains?

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that's my favorite taii in nukige

>> No.22546716

>tfw your dick isn't thick enough to ever gape a womans asshole

>> No.22546718

>>22546716
god gave your arms for a reason

>> No.22546722

>>22546718
it's the ego boost im after

>> No.22546725

>>22546722
show her your n2 certificate

>> No.22546727

>>22546725
im n3 (self-assessed)

>> No.22546729

>>22546727
you cant have a small peepee and be n3 my dude get it together

>> No.22546733

>>22546729
im 6x5 so im average thank you very much

inb4 that dicklet that gets mad when you say 6 inches is average

>> No.22546739

>>22546733
then roll your n3 (self-assessed) certificate around your shaft and maybe by your average powers combined you can gape her

>> No.22546740

Man I can't believe my 280€ are producing noise in my right ear when NC is activated. Sony did a shoddy job on this one, or I suppose the Chinese factories did. I'll probably send this one back and get a new pair from a local vendor.
Using WH-1000XM3 right now and really happy with them except the noise issue. Only other problem I suppose is the fact that you can't multi connect to several devices or quickly switch between devices but that's not a big deal. Also considering other headphones but those seem to be the best on the market right now.

>> No.22546757

>>22546638
breaking my posting embargo to say hey step into my office i know all the sumo shit like 寄り倒し dude im ur fuckin guy step into my office djts "jamal"#2878

>> No.22546760

fuck peeps that wear background noise reduction phones while commuting
also wb big j

>> No.22546761

>>22546757
lmfao

>> No.22546762

>>22546757
totally an old man btw not a poorfag in my mid twenties desperate for money

lmao

>> No.22546764

>>22546757
welcome back

>>22546760
I myself only wear them at home, never outside. I'd be too afraid of some shitskin grabbing them off my head and running off. Need the NC because I can hear cars passing by outside otherwise.

>> No.22546768

>>22546762
im not even online on discord nor do i plan to open it again lol

>>22546764
uve been posting way too mcuh dude

while the cat is away the mouse will play huh

>> No.22546769

>>22546760
well easy money is easy money

>> No.22546771

>>22546757

see
>>22546703
I dunno if that's your discord or someone shitposting so it'd be better if you could just friend req me

>> No.22546772

>>22546762
>>22546769

>> No.22546773

almost caught myself mining "while the cat is away the mouse will play"

>> No.22546780

wtf does ゆさ in 痛がゆさを増す mean?

>> No.22546781

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cNplZrRSjeI
reminder to listen to this at it'll never be topped

>> No.22546782

>>22546768
https://youtu.be/sPmE6rjrDnw

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>>22546771
honestly unless ur seriously willing to overpay im not gonna bother its not worth my time to do fiver gigs i just wanted to make that post for aesthetic reasons

anyway im goin back on vacation so ill leave u with this

how long have u been learning japanese and how much of this do u understand

>> No.22546787

wtf jamal trying to swipe my cash let the young men get some work in

>> No.22546792

>>22544292
I'd rather read thxs

>> No.22546793

>>22546787
nah u good dude get ur hustle on

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZhIpyeePdjI#t=4

>> No.22546794

>>22546781
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_SgWum9kHYk

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>>22546785

>> No.22546807

how many characters is one episode of anime?

>> No.22546808

set up a blue light filter for all your devices

>> No.22546810

why couldnt jamal make it the whole week bros

>> No.22546818

>>22546808
is this the reason why windows lost the blue task bar?

>> No.22546819

>>22546810
dopamine fasting is for the strong

>> No.22546826

>>22546818
i doubt it

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>> No.22546870

>>22546780
痛い
かゆい
痛痒い
痛痒さ

>> No.22546874

>>22546855
ばっかり can't be acquired through a grammar guide. tae kim or the dojg can give you a basic, workable definition, but you gotta watch tons of slice of life anime and see it being used in context to get a feel for it.

>> No.22546882

>>22546870
oh sweet jesus thank you

>> No.22546894

>>22543612
Thank you to whoever did it, the issue has been resolved.

>> No.22546900

>>22546874
yeah, i did watch georges vid for it, and i feel like he covered it pretty good

>> No.22546920

咥内射精

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Oh man I have less young cards than ever before I just noticed. This is pretty cool.

>> No.22546961

>>22546957
no it isn't.

>> No.22546964

>>22546957
>1 leech
shameful

>> No.22546969

>>22546874
nigga thats the simplest word ever wtf you smoking thinking that something complex

>> No.22546972

>>22546733
6x4.5 here it's hell

>> No.22546978

>>22546961
It sure is. I get a review load of under 15 minutes very consistently right now. I really can't understand anti-Anki arguments when this is all the effort it takes.

>>22546964
It's not a leech. It's an anime card I made but don't have word pronunciation for. I added the word to Forvo and will unsuspend when it is voiced. I don't suspend any leeches.

>> No.22546979

>>22546807
seems to be roughly 5000-6000

>> No.22546982

>>22546979
Interesting. That's really more than I expected.

>> No.22546991

>>22546982
quizmaster how many hours of listening do i need to be better than you? 20,000?

>> No.22546999

>>22546991
I'm not sure man but with a good work ethic you can surely surpass me soon.
Well I suppose listening is one thing it will teach you listening and words but not necessarily reading especially kanji readings. And I can also write 1000+ kanji (as in a practical sense and not in an RTK one) so you'd need to do something with that as well.

>> No.22547010

>>22546999
>And I can also write 1000+ kanji
if true you are a god

>> No.22547028

>>22547010
It's not really up for debate, I have my kanken deck which covers all those kanji as well as the kanken simulation (which is pretty much equivalent to the real test) which I can pass with almost full marks. I'm finished with level 5 right now and will probably do 4 soon.
Anyway I don't think it means that much. It's like 6th grader level. You can praise me when I get my kanken level 2 or level 1 certificate :)

>> No.22547037

i bet moe is a kanji writing god too

>> No.22547056

>1000 kanji
>Difficult

Are you people studying this thing right?

>> No.22547064

>>22547056
writing them dumbfuck

>> No.22547070

>>22547056
gotta remember this is 4chins everyone is retarded lazy or both

>> No.22547071

>>22547056
Well in terms of reading I have close to 3300 in my deck, which I suppose isn't overwhelmingly much but it gets the job done :)

>> No.22547072

RTK
T
K

>> No.22547076

man nothing quiz knows is impressive since ciaran and matt exist.

>> No.22547080

>>22547064
Yes, I said as in writing.
It's not even the necessary 2000.
Much easier than 聴解、in my opinion

>> No.22547081

Matt isn't impressive at all. Ciaran can definitely read and write more kanji than him. And what Matt knows is underwhelming for the time he has been learning. He really is all show. Can probably read as many kanji as me right now.

>> No.22547083

>>22546982
that's why i just use anime with japanese subs as my reading practice now since i'm forced to go through more characters more quickly than when i just try to read.

>> No.22547091

>>22547081
ciaran and matt both actually know and communicate in the language i mean whereas you just rote memorize readings that don't really matter especially because you don't even enjoy japanese media

>> No.22547097

>>22547081
literally who ?

>> No.22547098

it's disallowed to use my name to disparage quizmaster (or moe) since they're pound for pound the best learners to ever pick up the fude. ive been learning for 8 years (and 1 month).

>> No.22547101

>>22547081
then why did he beat all of you in the quizzes

>> No.22547102

>>22547091
I wonder how this makes any sense in your mind when I do nothing but anime with audio.
Whatever you got to do to justify that fantasy world I suppose

>> No.22547111

>>22547102
>anime
yea. ciaran and matt enjoy a much wider variety of media than you

>> No.22547116

>>22546979
are you counting words or characters? cause i got 15-20 000 lol. probably did something wrong i guess.

>> No.22547118

>>22547111
Anime mining/anime cards are the name of the method and type of cards, they are not restricted to anime. I haven't watched anime in a month.

>> No.22547120

i enjoy nothing, now stfu

>> No.22547121

friendly reminder that if youve spent more time memorizing rare words or kanji stroke order than you have enjoying anime youre doing it all wrong

>> No.22547129

>>22547098
>ive been learning for 8 years (and 1 month).
matt?
what do you think of yuyushiki btw?

>> No.22547133

>>22547116
yep just checked another episode and got about 7k characters. you must be watching some dense philosophical shows.

>> No.22547137

>>22547098
this is dishonest because you said yourself you didn't try to improve for many of those years and only started studying again this year. and you also have to apply that to matt. you can whine all you want but you're an undisputed champ compared to quiz and so is matt. you put a ton more effort into anki too.

>> No.22547146

>>22547137
>you didn't try to improve for many of those years and only started studying again this year.
while this is basically correct it's still a cope and there's no way around it.

>> No.22547156

>>22547133
how are you counting it? both online character counters which i pasted the content of the subs into and the summary of the sub file in notepad++ say 16k characters. it's higurashi no naku koro ni so not a dense show at all.

>> No.22547168

>>22547146
the whole point of comparing people's skill after a number of years is seeing who improved the most given roughly similar effort. if you weren't really studying japanese for a number of years it makes no sense to compare you to someone who was. saying you're an "8 year learner" is the actual cope that quiz uses and you shouldn't let him bully you. you're the big dick alpha male here. if you compare actual time+effort you smoke quiz. just look at your anki reviews bro you have to do way more than he does.

>> No.22547174

wait...how long has ciaran been studying for?
last time i heard, it was 5 years, then it became 6 years, and now it's 8 years.

>> No.22547180

>>22547174
12

>> No.22547183

>>22547116
if you're using notepad++ to count, it counts japanese characters multiple times

>> No.22547190

>>22547174
he's a native

>> No.22547192

>>22547168
this doesn't really make sense
I mean, it makes sense to relate time spent learning and achievements to get an idea for how efficiently someone learned
but nobody knows how much time they invested exactly, years is obviously a terrible measure
I for one spent a lot of time procrastinating which obviously doesn't count towards learning
in terms of objective hours btw, pretty sure ciaran has like 3 times the total Anki time compared to me he did a lot of inefficient shit

>> No.22547198

>>22547156
just ctrl+a'ing a dropped sub on fluentcards and checking the character counter on the html page quiz links on his site. a subtitle file has number timings and shit so that might fuck it up for you.
>>22547183
or what this guy said

>> No.22547209

>>22547192
what actually doesn't make sense is declaring someone's approach more efficient because they know a similar amount in supposedly less time when you have little idea about the actual time they've invested. 3 vs 8 years doesn't tell us anything. that's like saying nuke has been learning for 20 years.

>> No.22547217

>>22547192
well as long as you're the best no matter what despite not actually being good at japanese heheh

>> No.22547218

>>22547209
sure but you can pretty much discount all talk about all methodology like that because there are no studies on how to time efficiently learn reading Japanese or acquire vocabulary, at least none that are worth anything or provide any kind of insight

>> No.22547220

>>22547218
yea that's why i think it's best to just cheer on whoever you like more

>> No.22547222

>>22547168
it's pretty much impossible to say how much effort i actually invested but it's safe to say i was not a believer in the input method (or my ego wouldn't allow me to face the reality of it) until basically 2 years ago or so after i came back from japan and realised i still was really shit. before that my exposure to native material was limited (ie i never watched raw anime or read books etc). i think i had a lot of accumulated knowledge about japanese which benefited my in my switch to input method though, but ultimately i didn't really know japanese at all (despite having n1 from anki+textbook grinding)

>> No.22547225

>>22547222
oh so you're like that "n1 and still not fluent" guy so in 2 years you basically surpassed all learners using input. you're a god.

>> No.22547227
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22547227

>指先
finger
>指先
toe

>> No.22547231

>>22547222
what did you do in japan? teaching?

>> No.22547235

>>22547225
yea i was basically exactly like that n1 and not fluent guy lol. i don't think it's impressive tho, i mean i did have a lot of knowledge about japanese that just needed to be unlocked in a more practical way by spending a shitload of time listening/reading which ive been doing

>> No.22547236

>>22547225
"learning" japanese for 5 years and then switching to input for 2 years isn't the same as inputting for 2 years

>> No.22547239

>>22547231
no i was just on exchange at a japanese uni for a year

>> No.22547245

>>22547235
did that video actually motivate you or did krashen or something

>> No.22547249

mattvsjapan hasn't been updated on yiff.party in a month i'm fucking pissed.

>> No.22547250

when did you start learning japanese? and with this i mean when did you start reading native content not doing core?

>> No.22547259

more like yiff in hell

>> No.22547264

isn't that a furry website? how come there is no real site or community that rips patreon content other than some degenerate porn site

>> No.22547272

>>22547264
i guess it was originally intended for furfag shit but people use it to access all kinds of patreon content.

>> No.22547278

>>22547081
matt is learning chinese of course his japanese isnt gonna improve as much

>> No.22547279

currently having japanese audio playing while browsing djt

>> No.22547285

>>22547279
currently slurping ur moms pussy juice while browsing djt

>> No.22547289

>>22547285
well you can keep going but she can't orgasm bud

>> No.22547292

Who is this ''Matt'' you speak of? Some sort of prophet, perhaps?

>> No.22547296

Speaking of pussy juice I was masturbating just now and close to climaxing but then I remembered that I wanted to stop and that even after I get it done nothing new will be gained, no new insight no character building and I will only experience the same empty pleasure that I already have thousands of times so I just stopped and went back to what I was doing. I honestly wish to stop but it's really hard sometimes

>> No.22547298

>>22547245
ive known about AJATT etc since i started but i kind of thought it was a cult cause of how khatz wrote his blog, so i dunno i think i had some aversion to it. i also just thought id get there eventually by doing what i was doing cause i wasn't super obsessed with being good, ive never been a massive consumer of japanese content so it wasn't like i was watching anime thinking "i really wish i could understand this". ultimately i really had little interaction with the language and was just playing csgo and shit all the time and doing my daily anki reps.

i think i always kind of realised that i was being retarded but it's hard to accept the fact you can't understand anything of the language you've been "studying", so i was probably just avoiding even trying to watch raw anime etc cause i knew i wouldn't be able to understand shit. which is what it was like when i decided to really make an effort to learn properly.

anyway the main impetus for change probably being i have a friend who is also studying and he was starting to get really good just by watching anime and shit and he kept trying to get me to just do immersion, and eventually i spent like 50 painful hours watching anime without subs and realised i was getting better pretty quickly just from that since i knew a lot of vocab already.

>> No.22547301

>>22547292
some dude that found out the weeb dream is a lie the hard way and now copes by rehashing rehashed rehashes of old learning material for patreon bucks

>> No.22547302

>>22547292
japanese learner who reached the highest highs in the shortest amount of time thus far. and i mean practical, meaningful highs. not learning random words you'll only encounter once a year, but being able to speak to the point someone could confuse you for a native because your pitch accent is just that good.

>> No.22547307

>>22547296
so you just got blueballed by yourself? lmfao, thats not normal dude if you were actually close to climaxing it should be very uncomfortable for you right now

>> No.22547310

>>22547307
??
blueballs don't happen after you stop yourself once
it comes after you spend a lot of time edging without climaxing
are you a woman or something?

>> No.22547318

the first edge does almost nothing to me nowadays it's the subsequent edges that bring me to the funny state

>> No.22547325

i don't think i've ever felt blue balls even after edging and not cumming is my t too low?

>> No.22547329

>>22547310
low t

>> No.22547331

>>22547325
i only did after not jerking off for 2 weeks and then edging
it actually started to hurt after a while

>> No.22547333

>>22547325
same

>> No.22547335

going to read a bit

>> No.22547338

>>22547292
a genius
https://streamable.com/7ywcv

>> No.22547345

>>22547338
this is my favorite matto clip

>> No.22547349

>>22547338
so glad im alive to witness this clip yet again

>> No.22547352

sweet dogen's newer pitch accent videos are up

>> No.22547361
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https://youtu.be/tGMtWb69D68?t=649
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>> No.22547363

>>22547235
do you wish you had done more input hypothesis stuff at the start or does the order of how you learn it not really matter?

>> No.22547384

>>22547363
idk i don't really have any regrets because im content with how my life has gone so far but if i was going to have to relearn japanese id probably just start watching/reading native shit right after learning kana but id probably end up crippling myself anyway cause im retarded

>> No.22547400

Kureiji-Saiko

>> No.22547419
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22547419

i guess they don't hate each other that much

>> No.22547437

>>22547419
of course they don't you dumb fuck newfag they've spoken positively about each other numerous times after matt's initial "hating on series" and had that reconciliation stream. george dislikes the smug culty aspects of matt's shit but doesn't "hate" him.

>> No.22547455

japanese the manga way is the only decent textbook

>> No.22547457

>>22547437
>not keeping up with eceleb faggot worshiping lore makes u a dumb fuck
think youve got that backwards, dumb fuck

>> No.22547460

>>22547457
eceleb shit is the most relevant shit in this thread get the fuck out.

>> No.22547472
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22547472

Could anyone transcribe these runes for me, thanks

>> No.22547474

>>22547460
make me retard

>> No.22547475

>>22547472
無惨様

>> No.22547476

gonna eat some mass-produced cheap ramen you buy from the grocery store in the US for the first time in like 2 years wish me luck

>> No.22547478

>>22547475
thanks~

>> No.22547483

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tVj0ZTS4WF4
any japanese music with this feel

>> No.22547506

piccolo is fucking based. name one shonen side character as based as piccolo. you can't!

>> No.22547511

>name one shonen side character as based as piccolo
brock

>> No.22547519

>>22547506
all dbz characters are boring

>> No.22547523

https://youtu.be/IzNiFmJyTOg?t=232
i think matt is a genuine retard if he admires hiroshima君

>> No.22547536

dbz spammers are tiring, just shut the fuck up already retarded apes

>> No.22547541

>>22547536
it's ciaran and he's not a retarded ape but his dbz love is fueled by nostalgia.

>> No.22547547

>>22547541
yeah the exclamation mark gave him away

>> No.22547564

really has nothing to do with nostalgia it's the perfect shonen. got the best voice actors. the coolest characters. the sickest serifu. very few anime can compete honestly!

>> No.22547573

>>22547523
>grand pricks

>> No.22547574
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22547574

better character than anyone in dbz by a long shot

>> No.22547576

i want to curbstomp people that use exclamation marks

>> No.22547578

>>22547576
best you can do is challenge ciaran to the quiz

>> No.22547580

>>22547578
that and having a gf is the only areas in life i lost to him

>> No.22547584

imagine limiting yourself from an entire range of expression. couldn't be me!

>> No.22547596

oh yeah the music is really good in dbz too

>> No.22547603

>>22547574
agreed, pretty underrated animu, although I'm only half way through the second season, I need to catch up

>> No.22547629

dropped mob psycho 2 episodes in cause the fake powers guy was so fucking annoying

>> No.22547637

>>22547629
one of the best anime characters ever you mean
https://youtu.be/VWR_hTC4A98?t=11

>> No.22547640

>>22547637
fuck you

>> No.22547647

if someone can make it through zenitsu then you can make it through a conman's character arc.

>> No.22547655

i fast forwarded through every single zenitsu scene since hes completely inconsequential to the story unlike annoying fuck over there

>> No.22547679

grease

>> No.22547683

lightning

>> No.22547703

>>22547236
>"learning" japanese for 5 years and then switching to input for 2 years isn't the same as inputting for 2 years
exactly. textbooks are shit but doing them especially with anki you can accumulate a lot of knowledge which gives a huge advantage over someone who’s just starting from scratch

>> No.22547706

>>22547703
it's a dumb point since 5 years of textbook equals 1 year of input at best so ciaran has basically invested 3 years into japanese and surpasses quiz

>> No.22547712

>>22547655
well he gets brought to justice in a sense so maybe you'd enjoy that part of it

>> No.22547715

>>22547574
>>22547603
based anime opinions

>> No.22547738

>>22547706
>it's a dumb point since 5 years of textbook equals 1 year of input at best
low IQ generalization
it depends what and how many textbooks he did. some like tobira cover a shit load of real japanese from newspapers and shit. it’s boring as hell but it’s still real japanese and if he was doing anki and core decks in addition to that then that’s much more than most inputters will achieve in just 1 year

>> No.22547742

>>22547738
>tobira cover a shit load of real japanese from newspapers and shit
lmfao tobira isn't gonna do jack shit compared to a year of input bruh

>> No.22547750

I am kind of skeptical about the idea that ciaran was a textbook autist making no progress for 5 years because besides living in Japan he started learning Japanese by doing RTK which isn't exactly what the schools tell you to do so he definitely invested some effort into researching what to do

>> No.22547755

>>22547750
cope

>> No.22547759

lets be real here we can throw the idea that ciaran is anything other than a moron right out the window since no person that isn't one would do what he professes to have done for 5 years

>> No.22547761

its real cute you think you need to know a lick of japanese to survive in japan should prob get out more desu

>> No.22547764

ciaran what are your dick measurements we're gonna prove how superior you are to quiz once and for all

>> No.22547766

daily reminder: unless ur doing 200 anki words a minute you're not remotely close to the speed of real immersion

>> No.22547769

>>22547759
what??

>> No.22547772

>>22547769
huh?

>> No.22547775

i'm the opposite of ciaran, I lived in japan for 5 years and immersed in japanese about half that time and i didn't start getting good till i started doing more memorization stuff, you really have to balance the two to be optimal

>> No.22547797

>>22547766
why would you waste time in anki covering words you already know well

>> No.22547798

>>22547775
what???

>> No.22547802

>>22547797
you cant really understand what spaced repetition means if you say this unironically

>> No.22547804

>>22547802
yea it means reducing your contact with words you have the most familiarity with which is the opposite of what you do when reading.

>> No.22547808

ripping so much ass that when i came back to my room after taking a piss the entire place smells like farts

>> No.22547812

now say that in japanese

>> No.22547814

Hello everyone. Is it really possible to learn Japanese on your own with these materials? I was offered to take Japanese classes from a professional from Japan but the courses are late at night and I don't feel like I have the commitment for that since I have responsibilities. Then again, I also feel like learning by yourself may be a meme and I just don't know it.

I've never browsed these threads before so I want some genuine input as to take the bait or if it would be better to learn on my own

>> No.22547816

moratteageru >>22547812

>> No.22547817

>>22547797
really missing the point dude, i'm essentially saying you would have to do 200 wpm to equal that of natural speech, so nobody is doing anything remotely close to that of course so the point is that learning a word in anki is relatively still just the starting point of that word and that knowledge is still useless for quiet some time

>> No.22547818

>>22547814
no

>> No.22547819

>>22547814
it's impossible to learn japanese unfortunately

>> No.22547824

>>22547814
don't take any classes, they help but no they're not as efficient as just doing it yourself which is free

>> No.22547834

>>22547819
>>22547818
I'm asking if learning in your own is better than from a Japanese teacher; considering everyone here has been learning on their own I feel like I'd be wasting time when I can learn at home

>>22547824
Figured as much, thanks for the response.

>> No.22547836

>>22547834
what part about it's impossible to learn japanese dont u get

>> No.22547841

>>22547834
yes teachers are unironically useless

>> No.22547846

>>22547834
well you're looking at 3-5 years to get good and 99.999% of people give up before then so good luck if you decide to try it, I'm damn near a year and a half in and still suck and I'm talking minimum 8 hours a day I work on it in some way

>> No.22547852

>>22547846
>minimum 8 hours a day I work on it in some way
lol shut the fuck up

>> No.22547854

>>22547852
?

>> No.22547855

>>22547846
moe has been surpassed

>> No.22547863

i mean there's people who've lived there 20+ years and still suck if you didn't know, not everybody can do it

>> No.22547865

that's obviously because they put themselves in an english (or w/e their native language is) bubble, not because input doesn't work

>> No.22547869

>>22547865
input doesn't work, if it's not comprehensible

>> No.22547873

protip: nothings 100% incomprehensible

>> No.22547872

>>22547869
brilliant insight input also doesn't work if you're deaf blind or dead

>> No.22547875

>>22547855
?

>> No.22547879

i surpassed moe by watching 20 episodes today

>> No.22547881

my breaking point is 10 minutes of 1 episode

>> No.22547883

>>22547879
i did 500 episodes of one piece one month

>> No.22547892

if you just did fma in 2 days your before and after would be ridiculously better

>> No.22547893

>>22547892
no it wouldn't it takes a boatload more time than that to improve maybe you're referring to someone who's already good

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why is bikutorika so cute

>> No.22547920

the thing that makes moe special is that he can read all the kanji on the n1 quiz yet he is focusing on listening and immersion with 15 episodes of anime per day. most autists get to his point and try to focus on getting better and better at the haard quiz which is completely useless and it would do better for them to work on training their ear

>> No.22547925

After 15 months of learning I probably couldn't pass the N3 vocab quiz. Is it over for me?

>> No.22547938

>>22547925
never even begun

>> No.22547939

>>22547925
a 5 year old native would probably fail the n3, so no

>> No.22547940

>>22547920
laughed so hard at this post

>> No.22547966
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>>22547750
i started learning cuz my internet friend started and i said i would join, he told me to do rtk and other shit. even nukemarine was doing rtk back then. if you look at my historical anki you can see i did almost no new cards at all for 3.5 years. if i was getting input i would have been adding cards but i was just doing core and then i decided to do core10k

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>>22547966
>if you look at my historical anki you can see i did almost no new cards at all for 3.5 years. if i was getting input i would have been adding cards but i was just doing core and then i decided to do core10k

>> No.22547980

>>22547966
you need to put in english or they cant read it here

>> No.22547981

Read 30k and finished another route. Suppose I am like 90% there to finish my first VN it being rated Long (30-50 hours) on VNDB
let's go

>> No.22547984

>>22547981
what?

>> No.22547987

>>22547984
what are you confused about

>> No.22547988

>>22547981
nice dude, i'm going to attempt another one soon, my first few were too slow paced on top of me reading too slow and it killed it for me

>> No.22547992

wotd: 潮吹き

>> No.22547996

>>22547987
the first sentence and also the first half of the second sentence

>> No.22547999

>>22547996
Are you new here?

>> No.22548008

>>22547992
何のその

>> No.22548021

>>22547999
i dont understand why you use the verb form read and the point of using the word suppose in the scond sentence

>> No.22548025

read as in i have read in the past
suppose as in i think i ...

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22548035

注意

>> No.22548076

>>22545296
https://myanimelist.net/profile/animedropper69
nah don't wanna add a cock sucker

>> No.22548091

>>22548076
your loss bro ;)

>> No.22548101

alright i'm starting to panic i didn't realize i was gonna be at a loss

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I'm pissed.

>> No.22548142

>>22547814
>I don't feel like I have the commitment for that since I have responsibilities
With that sort of mentallity you'll never make it. At least with classes you'll be forced to do it and make a habit of it. If you can't even do that much, you'll never learn Japanese, this shit takes time and dedication.

>> No.22548151

getting blown the fuck out by koukaku kidoutai standalone complex

>> No.22548181

>>22548151
eng subs for this masterpiece of a show or watch in 5 years from now

>> No.22548261

チョコレートたべたい

>> No.22548275

肝に銘じる

yo what the fuck... then again i guess i would remember something if it got engraved onto my inner organs so sure

>> No.22548307

Holy shit, you guys are not well adjusted members of society. How can people become so assblasted over how a random person prefers to learn. Wow you guys have such wisdom. I decide not to take the free disorganized route as it isn't for me and somehow that invalidates me learning because it isn't the same method as yours. Holy fuck I have never read such mental gymnastics before.

>> No.22548310

>>22548307
calm down idiot

>> No.22548380

Is this dumbass really surprised that there's a bunch of autists and social retards on 4chan? No shit stupid??????

>> No.22548394

>>22548380
imagine calling HIM the dumbass when you’re the retarded ones lol

>> No.22548397

>>22548307
Everyone needs structured learning or it wont work

>> No.22548400

wait just read his posts he is kind of retarded too
no one ever gets good at a language without some level of “disorganization”, a textbook is not going to make you fluent so you might as well get out there and get messy now

>> No.22548403

and it’s possible to have multiple structured systems going on within the “mess” that’s what anki sentence cards and grammar guides are for
but if you want everything to be one perfectly organized linear thing you’re never gonna make it man just being straight up

>> No.22548407

uhhhh 4 sentences? i don't even read that much japanese, you expect me to read al that lmao

>> No.22548421

>>22548397
That's exactly what I was saying....

>> No.22548440

>>22548307
the djt route is extremely simple, and also extremely repetitive.
watch/read japanese media every day, make vocabulary cards off unknown vocabulary (approximately 20 per day is the recommended amount), review those cards, keep on consuming media.
it's up to you to decide what's the minimum amount of japanese media consumption you want to do per day. 45 min, 1 hr., 1hr. 30 min, 2hr., etc.
there's never going to be any switching around between textbooks (since you'll only ever use the same dictionary or set of dictionaries) or exploring any words used in genres you're not interested in.
it's all meant to be guided by whatever you like/care for, so it will only be as disorganized as whatever your interests are like.

>> No.22548442

>>22547920
>the thing that makes moe special is that he can read all the kanji on the n1 quiz
stop fuckin lying

>> No.22548449

>>22548440
right but he wants everything in one place pre-made so he never has to make any decisions for himself
a one-way ticket to eternal dekinai-dom

>> No.22548452

>>22548440
women don't have interests. that's why they expect people (their groups of friends, teachers) to tell them what to dom

>> No.22548457

>>22548442
stfu

>> No.22548482

ボルシチのあかさって

なにいれてあかいの

トマト?

>> No.22548485

>>22547817
>and that knowledge is still useless for quiet some time
what are you talking about
when i repped 懇切丁寧 in anki and saw it in a book a week later the sentence made sense right away

>> No.22548487

>>22548307
>>/jp/thread/S22525112#p22531511
i recognize this pasta

>> No.22548515

>>22548452
that uppercase poster isn’t even a woman

>> No.22548541

Anyone else have that feeling after taking a break from Japanese that things got easier than before. Super motivating to actually take a month or so off, you all should try it if you dont. Otherwise youll end up on the anime card treadmill for life posting inane excuses as to why those ostensibly superior to you are in fact somehow not.

>> No.22548549

>>22548541
i took a 18 month break get on my level nerd

>> No.22548559

>>22548549
that's like 2 pregnancies worth. did you continue to gestate the japanese you'd been inputting prior or had it started rotting by that point?

>> No.22548563

>>22548541
no

>> No.22548572

>>22548559
i retained 99%

>> No.22548621

>>22548572
and what's your opinion on anki now? did you ever even use it?

>> No.22548633

>>22548621
i wasnt talking about anki in reference to my retention but i just deleted my old deck and made a new one

>> No.22548715

is this thread more active than /int/'s DJT?

>> No.22549064

>>22548715
yes, but only because of a few dedicated shitposters

>> No.22549110

reminder that you can still make great gains in anki without ever failing cards

>> No.22549189

>>22548541
subconscious learning is a thing

>> No.22549512

どくしょする

みじかいから

おにいちゃんも

とっつきやすいかもしれない
https://www.aozora.gr.jp/cards/001566/files/54829_49754.html

>> No.22549521

>>22548105
what are you pissed about

>> No.22549533

what do you use to lookup words when reading manga?

>> No.22549554

>>22549533
manga isn't reading

>> No.22549682

しめのうち
注連の内

これじいちゃんばあちゃんもあんまりつかってないようなことばのきがする

ばしょによるのかな

>> No.22549703

>>22549533
yomiwa

>> No.22549711

>>22549512
どうも
短いやつが好き

>> No.22549746

>>22548076
>all this dropped shit
you're literally the 正反対 of me, i hate you

>> No.22549751

>>22549533
iphone dictionary app Japanese

>> No.22549768

sharex text ocr + an empty html file seems like the most convenient way to read manga but i havent tested it much so im not sure good it is for rarer kanji

>> No.22549786

>>22549768
maybe if sharex ocr would work reliably
i tried it with dragonball and it didn't recognize shit, even though the scan is really high quality

>> No.22549848

>>22548076
your standards are too high dude
do you even like anime

>> No.22549926

fuck nippon for inventing reaction videos and popularizing them

>> No.22550292

>>22549533
manually inputting radical-by-radical onto jisho

>> No.22550389

anki newbie here day1, should i keep going? feel like i dindu nothin

>> No.22550395

>>22550389
go read tae kim

>> No.22550412

>>22550389
i don't get what you're trying to say

>> No.22550435

>>22550395
ok will do, thanks

>> No.22550447

>>22550292
imagine being this stupid

>> No.22550496

10 month update -

it's been exactly 10 months ever since i started core6k and have read or watched japanese stuff at least one hour a day every day.
back then, i couldn't even read children's stories written entirely in hiragana, and didn't know verb conjugations.
now, i can at least easy-ish light novels and visual novels with the aid of a dictionary. real literature is still too hard for me. i still occasionally fail to understand stuff that's somewhat abstract or that's got a slightly unusual sentence structure.
yeah, i get the fact that i still suck, and that i didn't even put that much time into this, but i'm at least better than i was a year ago.

>> No.22550536

>>22550496
k, but have you enjoyed the process so far?

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>>22550496
good job anon keep it up

>> No.22550562

>>22550496
dont worry everybody here sucks just some are in denial, you're keeping realistic expectations so you might actually make it someday

>> No.22550642

do the 5k most common english words share as many roots with each other as the 5k most common japanese words

>> No.22550686

>>22550642
dont know

>> No.22550696

>>22544427
sooner or later all these "gurus" run out of things to say about actually learning japanese and start talking about card formats (mcds, jj+audio) or procedures for making cards (qolibri, subs2srs), or how to review cards or tweak the scheduling algorithm or other bullshit.

there really isn't much to say about acquiring a language, just keep getting comprehensible input. but anki can be tweaked indefinitely so scammers can perpetually sell the idea that they're making important innovations.

>> No.22550769

>>22543309
Whats VN core? didn't browse djt in a while.

>> No.22550869

matt before he started getting patreon money:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eTi9DiZ0Av0
matt after he started getting patreon money:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QOLTeO-uCYU

>> No.22550870

do we have a nakige rec chart?

>> No.22550933

>>22547814
>Is it really possible to learn Japanese on your own with these materials?
No you also need to shitpost here at least 8h per day.

>>22546638
I do it for free
>the pleasure of being cummed inside
there thats all there is

>> No.22550991

>>22550869
its kinda absurd how far a surface level interest in otaku media carried matt
like he had probably seen less than 200 anime by the time he decided to start learning and yet he still wanted to go all the way for kami knows what reason

>> No.22551015

>>22550991
what about you?
how many anime had you watched before you started learning japanese?

>> No.22551020

>>22551015
10

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>>22551015
i dont keep track but ive been watching reading and playing stuff for almost all of my life
actually got introduced by my mothers interest in shoujo

>> No.22551051

i almost wish my parents liked anime or just anything that could have been construed as nerdy in their time but they were just low working class bores

>> No.22551080

my dad's into continental european comics, so he can kind of empathize with my love for anime and manga, but he still thinks japanese stuff is "wacky and bizarre" because i once watched a few episodes of excel saga and flcl with him.

>> No.22551101

wotd: 坩堝

>> No.22551118

>>22551051
You should be glad that they weren't nerds and had sex otherwise you piece of shit wouldn't exist.

>> No.22551120

Kanji and context helps me guess the meaning of words while watching with japanese subtitles but if I were just listening to something I wouldn't be able to understand even 10%.

>> No.22551128

>>22551118
i don't think they're the kinds of people who should have ever reproduced and i'm not grateful for being born

>> No.22551159

which kanji is さまよう usually written with?

>> No.22551163

fuck bros i finally realized what the little hook does on those baibus while reading this 自慰 scene

>> No.22551166

>>22551159
彷徨う

>> No.22551316

is passive listening actually worth shit? i do some 'active' listening where i find the time. but i've started spending more of my free time watching japanese stuff, anime on netflix or jdramas online. my listening comprehension is dogshit, but i don't feel like this is doing anything,

>> No.22551323

>>22551316
passive listening itself doesn't do anything
the point of passive listening is that you always have something running in the background and can switch to active listening whenever you aren't doing anything else

>> No.22551332

>>22551323
so these jdramas i'm watching, they don't have an option for jap subs. if i'm watching them with eng subs, that's not worth the time right?

>> No.22551333

>>22551316
i've tried it. what i've noticed is that it has made me get distracted from whatever else i've doing (like homework or driving), and that i've only been able to recognize words i already know while doing "passive" immersion.

>> No.22551346

>>22551332
i personally believe there's at least some value in watching with english subs as long as you make an active effort to also listen to the japanese
but if you're looking at it purely from a time efficiency perspective, there's probably more worthwile things you could be doing yeah

>> No.22551471

reccomend me a good MOE manga with furigana please

>> No.22551534

>>22551471
berserk has the little fairy guy he's pretty moe and it has some furigana

>> No.22551555

>>22551471
watch every single kirara anime with japanese subs, mine the fuck out of every single word you don't know yet, and then you'll know enough words to read furigana-less manga

>> No.22551651

i can't stop downloading anime
i'll never catch up with this backlog

>> No.22551677

What's the difference between 後 and てから?

>> No.22551682

>>22551677
no idea

>> No.22551866

>>22551651
you could listen to anime episodes at school/at work if you don't care too much for the visuals

>> No.22551876

>>22551651
you could stop downloading anime. there's an endless sea of bad ones and you don't have to horde them

>> No.22551883

tfw u'll never lick the 脇の下 of a big titty jp gf

>> No.22551896

>金糸雀 (カナリア)
wtf is up with that reading?
btw i only get pics of the rozen maiden character instead of the bird if i look it up in kanji instead of katakana

>> No.22551901

HELLO FELLOW NIHONGO-MANABIMONOS,
HOW DO I LEARN FURIGANA AND HENTAIKANA?

>> No.22551928

>>22551896
cool man

>> No.22551958

read this: 挿入

>> No.22551970

>>22551958
so-new

>> No.22551972

>>22551970
buuu

>> No.22551991

>>22547298
>and eventually i spent like 50 painful hours watching anime without subs

sounds like a pain in the ass

>> No.22551992

>>22551972
そうにゅう sounds like so-new, you dumb niggerjew

>> No.22551997

gonna start a new no fap this monday for the new comiket

>> No.22552007

no fap is so pointless

>> No.22552010

50 hours is about a bit more than 100 episodes

>> No.22552021

>>22552010
more like 136, if it's a 22 min. long episode

>> No.22552023

>>22552021
that’s what I said

>> No.22552024

>>22552007
"When was the last time it rained", right? The いつ is making me stumble a bit.

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>>22552024
Sorry forgot pic

>> No.22552031

>>22552028
>>22552024
correct

>> No.22552041

>>22552024
yeah

>> No.22552123

is there anybody in this thread who can read over 1000文字/分?
if so, how long did it take to get there?

>> No.22552132

i can't do it

>> No.22552155
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22552155

>>22541715
Try listening to Nihongo con Teppei for Beginners, or the non-for Beginners (intermediate) one. Comfy podcast in やさしい日本語 by a Japanese person who has language learning experience. The for Beginners one becomes less boring quickly, fwiw.

>> No.22552161

>>22552123
it's double the average japanese person. there's probably less than 100 people in the world who are jsl who can read that fast with native comprehension

>> No.22552165

>>22552155
Also, don't get discouraged if you don't understand everything in the intermediate one.

>> No.22552173

just fell asleep for an hour at 8pm, boy am i fucked now

>> No.22552225

>>22551876
i only download the ones that i expect to enjoy
but since my standards aren't too high and i've liked plenty of shows that were rated 6.x on mal or anilist there's still a ton of stuff turning up

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https://youtu.be/v2HWbtEWaZM

>> No.22552275

>>22552225
based low iq bro

>> No.22552291

watching/listening to 2 hours of shit feels like an eternity but it's only 2 hours.

>> No.22552294

>>22552291
that's cuz you're not enjoying what you're consuming :)

>> No.22552301

>>22552294
yea and i won't for a long time. fuck.

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so is it a good or bad thing to be low iq when it comes to learning japanese?
on the one hand language learning is all about pattern recognition and a low iq person's progress should be considerably slower
but on the other hand, the low iq person is much more easily entertained and therefore has a much simpler time finding engaging content and might win out by sheer 量 of time spent with the language

>> No.22552311

the god combo is being high iq and not having a stick up your ass about it so you can actually enjoy things

>> No.22552331

>>22550696
wow ur kinda right
once you find an anki format that works for you it's all about just keeping that up and getting input of your choosing daily
someone who's got that settled doesn't need to buy anything except maybe some of their media

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22552351

Jamal waking up and opening DJT
>>22541593
Yeah, this is one reason why you have to be careful in online discussions. People will brag about being able to largely/fully comprehend raw anime in 6 months or whatever when in reality it's just that you can use tone and visuals to trick yourself into thinking you understand things you don't.

>> No.22552375

>>22552351
>you don't.
you don't what?

>> No.22552377

matto様 says i gotta do sentence cards
qm様 says i gotta do vocabulary cards with audio in the back
どちら is right?

>> No.22552388

>>22552123
don't be stupid

>> No.22552389

>>22552375
Re-read, or learn English.

>> No.22552393

>>22552377
doesn't matter in the long term
pick the one you like better and stick with it

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>> No.22552408

>>22552388
well, i was just remembering this post over here
>>/jp/thread/S21694850#p21699602
and roughly estimated that it'd be possible to read a 200 pg light novel in 2 hours if i could read 1000文字/分,
so i assumed that i'd have to be able to read at least 5 times faster than i can currently read to get to that level.

>> No.22552410

>>22552237
people with double jointed elbows shouldn't train in any shape or form

>> No.22552411

>>22552311
>the god combo is being high iq and not having a stick up your ass about it so you can actually enjoy things
this. not sure how some idiots on djt convinced some of you that having a high iq means you're a depressed cynical killjoy

>> No.22552413

>>22552377
the first is best for beginners. if you're not comfortable with most grammar and reading yet then sentence cards are best.

>> No.22552425

>>22552404
pathetic.

>> No.22552426

>>22552411
if you don't understand then you're part of the low iq group that enjoys bad media.

>> No.22552432

imagine learning japanese for fucking anime then thinking youre high iq for not liking shounen shit but loving ??? whatever lol

>> No.22552435

>>22552413
what about after that?
do you throw away all your sentence cards and/or substitute them for vocabulary cards as soon as you've acquired enough japanese?

>> No.22552437

ciaran may very well be the highest IQ learner in these threads and he loves shounen.

>> No.22552439

>>22552432
i dunno shounen is what you start with and then refine your taste from there

>> No.22552451

>>22552426
shut up retard
>>22552408
that guy is a shitter and probably cant read a light novel in 20 hours
don't expect to read even as fast as an adult native (400〜600字/分) with full comprehension until at least 4,000 hours of reading (manga excluded). if you even make it to that point you'll have already read over 200 light novels and probably won't give a shit about your reading speed anymore anyway.

>> No.22552461

>>22552435
yes

>> No.22552467

>>22552437
>guy that just droned and textbook'd for 5 years is high iq
lol

>> No.22552472

whos that guy anyway i've never seen a youtube about that guy?

>> No.22552473

>>22552467
since when do high IQ people not make mistakes? he switched to input and now he dominates every other learner. and he loves dbz and hxh.

>> No.22552480

a person that anki drones for 5 years would never beat an average djter

>> No.22552481

さてと

>> No.22552498

should be noted that i wasn't really putting any thought into learning japanese at all it was a very minor hobby of mine until recently :) probably only watched like 30 episodes of anime from 2010-2018 (because anime is shit). so i didnt even realise i sucked at japanese that badly until i went to japan for student exchange (where i also didn't study and just had a lot of fun ;)). that being said my iq is average clearly.

>> No.22552499

>>22552473
pretty big fuckin mistake dont u think

>> No.22552507

>>22552499
no. it's just a fact that intelligent people are constantly wrong about things. how else would you explain half of intelligent people believing one thing and the other half believing the opposite on a wide variety of issues.

>> No.22552524

the lot of you are a bunch of 不幸者s
call your mom now

>> No.22552527

>>22552480
look it's another shitter talking shit about someone who's 100x better than them

>> No.22552531

>>22552527
how can someone that ankidrones be better than someone that inputs regularly
imma wait on your bitch ass

>> No.22552534

oops
不孝者*

>> No.22552537

how do u say failson in japanese

>> No.22552565

>>22552537
wagako

>> No.22552566

>>22552531
how long have you been "inputting" nihongo and how much of this do you "understand"
http://streamable.com/6lql2

>> No.22552569

>>22552566
give me j subs with that

>> No.22552571

>>22552531
using anki doesn't matter if you're getting multiple hours of input a day outside of that you idiot

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>>22552566
this dude wants to laugh so bad

>> No.22552585

>>22552569
there aren't any im afraid u have to know japanese

>> No.22552589

>>22552581
no he actually is trying hard to hold back his tears.

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today was a good day in terms of anki but im expecting to return to the mean and start hitting my usual 75% mature retention soon enough

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>>22552589

>> No.22552597

>>22552571
most words are not common enough to see them often enough to remember them without srs.

>> No.22552604

>>22552597
OH NO
OH NO NO NO NO NO

>> No.22552606

>>22552595
that's just what japanese people look like when they're about to cry.

>> No.22552607

>>22552604
i think it's hilarious you're legitimately trying to argue with the most advanced learner in this thread. learn your place retard lol.

>> No.22552616

>>22552606
luckily i never plan on going there because if i ever see them make that face i'll start laughing with them.

>> No.22552622

>>22552597
so how did people ever learn japanese without srs

>> No.22552631

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wqFEnIIRVYg

>> No.22552633

>>22552622
by wasting +20 years doing full time immersion instead of 3-5 years for a few hours a day the way highly efficient learners like qm and ciaran do.

>> No.22552639

>>22552622
youre assuming that anyone can learn japanese

>> No.22552640

>>22552633
damn anons just got roasted

>> No.22552642

>>22549703
this, worth 7 dollars or whatever i paid (i aint no punk bitch)

>> No.22552643

>>22552607
i wasn't the one who said that. tbf i have no idea if anki is necessary in learning japanese (although i imagine it helps a bit if you use it wisely) i just like to use it myself. realistically you need to get so many thousands of hours of input to really acquire japanese the effectiveness of anki probably levels out in the end anyway.

>> No.22552646

>>22552643
damn anon just got roasted

>> No.22552651

failson is a leftist reddit term

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>>22552633
>>22552597
>>22552607

>> No.22552655

theres this one weirdo itt who is constantly making posts like
>>22552607
>>22552633
i think he's also the guy that's always sucking moe off.

whats your deal dude?

>> No.22552662

trying to acquire 花より団子 on the deepest level

>> No.22552667

i've noticed that one guy always getting mad when the moe fan posts

>> No.22552668

>>22546145
Used to work shift, after night shifts I dropped to 40-50% despite sleeping 10h afterwards.
Sleeping well can do so much for you.

>> No.22552670

>>22552646
but ciaran agrees that srs gives him a temporary advantage in the language that could only be meaningfully supplanted with far more hours of immersion than he or 99.999% of learners are willing to invest.

>>22552655
i'm only the first one. moe is a no one and will always be a no one. 10 episodes of anime a day? please. mattvsjapan and other ajatters got literally 2x-3x time that much in active listening daily for years.

and ciaran has proven himself on the hard quiz and watching and understanding historical j drama so he gets credit where credit is due.

>> No.22552673

>>22552662
eat a flower and then a dango
then and only then would you start to understand the intricacies of nippongo

>> No.22552678

there's actually two moefans, one of whom happens to be a qm fan too

>> No.22552679

ciaran is so short he could almost suck me off without getting on his knees

>> No.22552682

>>22552673
can i make the dangos myself? i already have eaten a flower

>> No.22552685

matt only watched 3000 episodes of anime total

>> No.22552692

i said "active listening" and not "anime" for a reason

>> No.22552694

>>22552670
>but ciaran agrees that srs gives him a temporary advantage in the language that could only be meaningfully supplanted with far more hours of immersion than he or 99.999% of learners are willing to invest.
he literally just said
>although i imagine it helps a bit if you use it wisely
you said it's impossible to learn most words without srs
i know it's a tall order but try not to be completely retarded

>> No.22552698

>>22552670
u can easily check the stats and see that on average he definitely watches more than 10 episodes a day haha

>> No.22552706

moe is definitely that weirdo loser at his uni that everyone suspects is an incel waiting to shoot up the place lol

>> No.22552707

>>22552698
he still agrees with me though. that's the whole reason he's using SRS. go ahead and ask him.
>you said it's impossible to learn most words without srs
i didn't post that idiot.

>> No.22552709

>>22552682
if you so wish you can make anything by yourself, with the exception of natural sounding japanese of course since you have yet to consume the dango

>> No.22552717

why are our attention whores never interesting
did anki droning fry their brains
like at least talk about some super obscure doujin game youve found that has intricate nihongo wordplay or whatever

>> No.22552719

>>22552707
meant for
>>22552694

>> No.22552722

>>22552706
little did this anon knew
moe would be the person to turn him into a cuckold

>> No.22552730

>>22552717
this is the eceleb general u fag

>> No.22552732

>>22552707
i never argued with using srs being more efficient than not using srs
what i'm arguing against this post >>22552597
and if you didn't make it, i'm not sure why you're butting into the discussion here >>22552607

>> No.22552741

ciaran did all of core10k and used textbooks to bring himself up to n1 level before he started mining vns, watching 時代劇 TV series, and hardcore quizzing, so he's got a huge advantage over anybody who just did tae kim's guide and core2k/vncore before reading yotubato or flyable heart.

i think it's probably because of that i+1 thing matt has talked about. it's a lot easier to fill in small gaps in your knowledge with mostly uncommon words if you've already got your bases covered than it is to try to build both your bases and try to achieve a proper comprehension of comparatively "challenging" material.

>> No.22552755

>>22552698
you'd have to average 18 episodes a day to match matt. and matt's input was higher quality too because he didn't limit himself to children's cartoons.

>> No.22552760

>>22552730
yeah but its always flashcards this immersion that 10 years 10000 hours 18 month updates subs2srs my droning method is better than yours blah blah blah like do any of you shits actually enjoy anime or anything

>> No.22552764

i'll be a lot better than i am right now in a year, that's all i need

>> No.22552766

>>22552760
yeah i'm about to watch anime for the next 4 hours

>> No.22552769

>>22552755
too bad he drinks piss and never learned japanese

>> No.22552771

>>22552760
i fucking hate anime.

>> No.22552772

just to make it clear i think anki is useful for learning words cause it keeps it in your head so you don't have to look it up next time you see it but ultimately you need to see/hear a word many times to actually acquire it because words have a lot of meta info that you cant get from a definition (e.g. when it's typically used, what kind of emotional impact it has, the nuances when compared to similar words c.f. shoujiki and sunao). if you just input for a million hours then you'll probably not require the initial help from anki. that being said it seems like a lot of non anki users who just read VNs don't actually know the readings properly so who knows.

>> No.22552786

>>22552766
yeah but you prob wont enjoy it youll come back and post about how moe killed the intudstry and its all pseudo edge blah blah chuuni gay grimdark 4 out of 10 had nothing to say fast forwarded 1 point 5 speed worst girl bland mc tropes i hate anime etc

>>22552771
at least youre honest

>> No.22552793

>tfw friend has a nice jp gf who'd i'm sure would be willing to help me with some production practice but im too shit so theres no point
i guess if he doesnt break up with her in the next 2 years it could happen

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Felt like I failed way too many cards and it was going terrible but it turned out to be fine. Weird how perception can be off like that.

>> No.22552810

>>22552786
nah i enjoy most of the stuff i watch and don't post about it, there's too many elitists here

>> No.22552813
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>> No.22552814

>>22552796
your anki stats seem so lackluster compared to ciaran's. i presume he has lower retention but does far more cards so he learns a lot more.

>> No.22552819

>>22552814
Yeah he definitely does more cards than me, he also reads more than me so him making more progress isn't hard to imagine.

>> No.22552843

>>22552813
i cant believe i actually watched 2-3 seasons of nanatsu no taizai and all of bungo stray dogs lol

>> No.22552867

>>22552772
>just to make it clear i think anki is useful for learning words cause it keeps it in your head so you don't have to look it up next time you see it but ultimately you need to see/hear a word many times to actually acquire it
i agree with this for the most part, or almost entirely.
i went 3 months not using anki at all after 5 months of hardcore anki-ing, and i think there were only 20 words i was able to acquire in addition to the ones i'd already learned. many of the ones i'd learned before i ended up forgetting (amongst some extremely basic examples: 控える and 鍋) were words that i occasionally saw, but that since i didn't even immerse that much (only 1-2 hours a day on average, since i was busy doing school stuff), i wasn't even able to remember what they meant or how to read them. i just knew they looked familiar.
of course, there were some words that i greatly benefitted by being exposed to them often within a specific context (especially "strong" words like 滅ぼすor 蝕む), but there were plenty of other words (some of which were much more basic) that i came across that will probably end up being much harder for me to remember without anki cards.
as soon as i picked mining back up, i started to feel like i was actively expanding my vocabulary, instead of letting words wander before me.

>> No.22552878

music is the ultimate pleb filter. if you can't understand japanese music you don't know japanese.

>> No.22552890

>>22552819
if you wanted to, you could become the readmaster as well.
beating ciaran doesn't seem like it would be that difficult for you.

>> No.22552904

>>22552890
well it's definitely within my capabilities but the fact that I have motivational and concentration issues makes it hard
right now I am mostly forcing myself to read because I want to finish this VN but I'm not really enjoying it, it has a lot of boring parts
so I alt tab often and pass the time posting or doing something else like I am right now

>> No.22552911

>>22552904
>well it's definitely within my capabilities but the fact that I have motivational and concentration issues makes it hard
can't almost everyone itt say the same, so in reality it's not in your capabilities

>> No.22552912

anime is cartoons??? HAHHAHAHAH ! you're fucking hilarious bro thats the best joke i ever heard

>> No.22552920

>>22552911
this.

>> No.22552923

>>22552911
sure that's not an invalid way to interpret it, ultimately it doesn't really matter because everything we do and even think is controlled by external factors we (whatever that is) aren't in control of

>> No.22552926

>>22552912
hook line and sinker

>> No.22552929

>>22552912
>日本のアニメ is アニメーション?? HAHHAHAHAH ! you're fucking hilarious bro thats the best joke i ever heard

>> No.22552935

>>22552923
very true.

>> No.22552940

ultimately it doesn't matter who's better than who at japanese or how fast you learn all that matters is that you're having fun along the way and i have :)

>> No.22552973

>>22552940
by that metric youre king of djt now

>> No.22553022

>>22552940
I'm having more fun than you so I'm better.

>> No.22553030

>>22552814
my retention is like 85%ish but i don't have any cards mined from probably the most common 15k or so words like qm so i don't get a lot of freebies when i do anki (qm still reps words like 来る whereas i just delete cards if they're that common since there's no way ill forget it even if i quit japanese for 10 years)

>> No.22553033

I have a total of 10 self voiced cards now. Just to clarify: the word audio is native, I only voice the sentence on the back

>> No.22553034

>>22553030
so yours is actually like thrice as impressive holy shit.

>> No.22553038

>>22553033
what's the point if you don't even know pitch accent

>> No.22553042

>>22553038
doesn't matter

>> No.22553049

ciaran is a fucking god. i can only hope that my dedication will allow me to get such a vocabulary.

>> No.22553051

>>22553038
pitch accent 知識 is for bitches

>> No.22553056

the most i could ever aspire to would be to be as good as qm is right now in 5 years

>> No.22553058

>>22553034
you may also like to know that i have my graduating interval set to 2-3 days so all my cards go 1 min 10 mins > 2 or 3 days later (load balancer) whereas qm has 3 steps and 1 day i believe :)

>> No.22553060

>>22553042
what's the point listening to your own incorrectly pronounced sentence

>> No.22553065

>>22553056
Don't feel too bad. He enjoyed completely garbage anime and you're just too smart to enjoy that crap.

>> No.22553066

>>22553060
remembering the word obviously

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>> No.22553114

>>22553065
he actually enjoyed quite a bit of the same stuff as i did (logh, monogatari, mushishi, klk, death note), except that he watched it with japanese subs, whereas i watched them with english subs, so i'll never learn any of the words he learned from there.

>> No.22553121

>>22553114
you listed 5 shows dude

>> No.22553136

>>22553121
in terms of emotional significance, they're all pretty high for me.

>> No.22553163

>>22553114
well, then maybe you should mine stuff that overlaps in terms of genres or style with those anime you mentioned.

>> No.22553167

it's wild how frieza never noticed the genkidama until it was too late. what a stroke of luck for goku.

>> No.22553199

just mined this from american psycho: 脾臓

>> No.22553212

shounen like dragonball, naruto, bleach are all full of shit because they try to put hard work and persistence, rising from the bottom and overcoming great odds on their display window but in truth all the protagonists are the legendary nine tailed super chosen ones from the legendary bloodline or whatever overcoming every great odd with some ass pull power they got due to being born

>> No.22553214

>>22553199
checked

>> No.22553223

>>22553212
The truth is that only the lucky ever rise to the top. But you can't know if you're lucky without trying. That is the message they are trying to send because it's the truth

>> No.22553233

>>22553223
blackest pill ever seen on deejaytea

>> No.22553237

>>22553233
you must not be one of the lucky ones

>> No.22553250

i wish vndb had a loli wth a fang tag (as opposed to the much broader "fang" tag)

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>>22553250
can't you combine tags

>> No.22553278

>>22553212
actually goku was a 3rd class warrior saiyan and didn't have the royal blood that vegeta was blessed with yet he was the one who paved the way to super saiyandom.

>> No.22553285

he was only able to reach those heights due to his perseverance like when he trained in extremely high gravity on the way to namek. he could have just slept all the way there.

>> No.22553287

>>22553257
i just learned this was a thing

>> No.22553308

>>22553033
this must be the most retarded shit you've ever done

>> No.22553311

>>22553167
are you watching original dbz or kai?

>> No.22553325

>>22553311
the original

>> No.22553373

daily reminder goku was only an ally to earthlings due to being hit by a coconut (?)

>> No.22553382

>>22553373
he fell in a ravine. anyway he would have changed anyway. it was his destiny.

>> No.22553385

>>22553382
not sure why i remembered it this way but thanks for clarifying that one for me

>> No.22553435

>>22553385
maybe he gets hit by a coconut and falls out of gohans backpack and into the ravine im not 100% sure

>> No.22553441

why cant there be more fuckin shows like mushishi? natsume yuujinchou is kinda similar but it doesnt really have the same vibe. i miss that lil nigga ginko like u wouldnt believe.

>> No.22553454

>>22553441
cause then they can't make any money selling merchandise of little anime girls.

>> No.22553455

>>22550769
>Whats VN core?
A retarded anki deck by some random idiot

>> No.22553457

>>22553455
t. retard that responds to comments one by one for no reason

>> No.22553472

>>22553441
ginko didnt die tho?

>> No.22553476

>>22551120
coz you're watching with subtitles which means you're not getting any listening practice done at all.

>> No.22553477

>>22553472
there are no more episodes so hes as good as dead

>> No.22553479

>>22553476
then how did quiz's listening get so good

>> No.22553480

I've seen so many 昇華 during my 3 years but i will never understand the term sublimation

>> No.22553487

>>22551316
it does nothing. there's a guy in here who watched subbed anime for something like 15 years and all he learned is "nani?"

>> No.22553489

>>22553480
have you tried googling it

>> No.22553490

i told my friend about the shot dopamine receptors meme and he laughed.

>> No.22553492

>>22553489
many a time

>> No.22553497

>>22551651
start watching some of it, you'll quickly realise how shit a lot of it is and that'll cure your hoarding obsession

>> No.22553498

>>22553479
ask him to transcribe that samurai streamable im sure his listening skills are too poor for even mainstream television.

>> No.22553519

>>22552473
>he loves dbz and hxh
lmao

>> No.22553523

>>22552507
Very average IQ post.

>> No.22553533

tfw too low iq to study biology so you can study the deep ocean near japan with a remotely controlled vehicle while chatting with your japanese colleagues in japanese

>> No.22553538

>>22553533
you mean whale hunting?

>> No.22553555

speaking about whales
how do they taste

>> No.22553564

let's gooo

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>> No.22553587

>>22553555
unironically a lot like chicken but ive only had fried whale so maybe it was just cause of the association

>> No.22553588 [DELETED] 

>>22553555
dunno never ate ur mom

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can't believe it's been 10 years already

>> No.22553596

>>22553588
daaayum

>> No.22553599

>>22553593
nigga have you really watched 425 fuckin episodes of this shit lmao

>> No.22553603

>>22541672
I unironically lost interest in anime after finishing LoGH

>> No.22553615

>>22553599
yeah
i'm not bored yet

>> No.22553619

>>22553615
are you on the spectrum?

>> No.22553627

logh already got trumped several times by evangelion, berserk, ttgl, ping pong the animation, etc.

>> No.22553630

>>22553603
this but with k-on!, just got back into it this season

>> No.22553635

>>22553630
ebin

>> No.22553637

evangelion and ttgl definitely not. berserk sure. haven't seen ping pong.

>> No.22553638

>>22553619
i just like crime stories, trying to figure out the tricks used and the deduction at the end
to me it doesn't really get boring

>> No.22553639

>>22553630
i feel a great deal of disdain towards you

>> No.22553641

>>22553638
i think you're autistic dude nothing wrong with that though

>> No.22553643

>>22553637
>evangelion and ttgl definitely not.
"definitely" not? you can make a point without using stupid qualifiers when preferring one or the other is obviously very valid

>> No.22553644

>>22553641
i wanna say i'm not but you're free to believe so

>> No.22553646

holy shit. goku finally did it. he finally became a super saiyan. friezas in fucking big trouble now.

>> No.22553647

anime elitists are some of the smelliest turds around, absolutely shambolic the state of them

>> No.22553650

>over 400 episodes
>he's not even half-way through the show

>> No.22553655

>>22553643
no they're worse with 100% certainty just as berserk is better with 100% certainty.

>> No.22553657

berserk is so good

>> No.22553661

>>22553593
who's your favorite waifu, conan bro?

>> No.22553662

ping pong isn't the same class i dropped it after one episode. boring anime.

>> No.22553663

still mad at Anakin betraying the jedi order by killing those innocent younglings

>> No.22553668

>>22553662
haven't watched ping pong but i don't understand how people feel comfortable judging entire shows by 1 episode.

>> No.22553670

didn't know db + z are 800+ episodes

>> No.22553671

who the FUCK is juice wrld

>> No.22553673

nande
anakin-kun...

>> No.22553674

>>22553655
uhhh evangelion you are talking about the pinnacle of animation? you dont get an opinion today bro

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>>22553661
haibara, she's also the best character in the show by a country-mile
kazuya is pretty cute though

>> No.22553682

>>22553668
it would be wrong of me to rate it but all i can say is it was too boring to make me want to want a second episode ever in my life.

>> No.22553686

how many episodes of detective conan do you watch per day dude? also do you watch it raw?

>> No.22553690

>>22553674
they both suffer from fart huffing syndrome at times but logh is better overall since it doesn't have shinji and it doesn't get into the annoying psychology of annoying neglected teenagers.

https://youtu.be/gQJ_7qrk2CA?t=124

berserk though...holy fuck what a show. it's not the best but if it's not in your top 3 you might as well pull a yang wenli.

>> No.22553692

>>22553686
i don't keep exact count but about 10 per day
i watch it raw yeah

>> No.22553694

nah nge is the best anime leading with a huge power level between the 2nd place

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>>22553692
>but about 10 per day

>> No.22553696

10 eps of the exact same shit every day. only moe could possible compete with people like that.

>> No.22553699

>>22553694
nge isn't even top 10

>> No.22553706

>>22553690
shinji is one of the best characters ever so it doesnt mean anything when you say "logh is better since it doesnt have shinji"
>>22553699
cope

>> No.22553707

nge has good animation that's it. it's what we call around these parts an 徒花.

>> No.22553711

>>22553706
>shinji is one of the best characters ever
lmfao

>> No.22553717

>>22553692
based. do you keep up with the manga too?

>> No.22553722

>here's a hot milf who will sleep with 14 year old you and a giant biobot you can use to fight monsters and defend the earth
>wow look how depressed shinji is he doesn't want any of that this is SO realistic

>> No.22553728

if you identify with shinji there's something wrong with you

>> No.22553729

>>22553711
should be illegal for someone who obviously hasnt rewatched it to give their opinion on nge i remember rating it 7/10 after the first watch how ignorant of me. sad thing for you is you are too closed minded and retarded to change your mind

>> No.22553730

>>22553717
not at the moment
i might read the manga once i'm all caught up with the anime

>> No.22553736

i watched eva, saw all the analysis and discussion about it online, rewatched it, still thought it was boring fart sniff shit.

>> No.22553737

>>22553730
you should, the older chapters are some of the dopest shit ive read

>> No.22553738

>>22553728
i dont know about identifying with shinji but the entire concept of shinji is very pertinent to the workings of the universe on metaphysical and interpersonal levels

>> No.22553739

>>22553729
didn't realise he stops being a whiny little pussy the second time lmfao

>> No.22553744

>>22553738
lol okay bro

>> No.22553751

btw qm, why do you wanna learn how to write?

>> No.22553753

two brainlet copes posted one minute apart hmmm......

>> No.22553756

you know a character can have "depth" and still be annoying and ruin a show right

>> No.22553763

>>22553571
based passion

>> No.22553765

i really can't relate to the peeps here criticizing nge but whatevs to each his own

>> No.22553767

zenitsu has a lot to say about the metaphysics and interpersonal workings of the universe too.

>> No.22553773

>>22553756
i realize this is what happened to you personally but i suggest you take a little less pride in your shitty opinions

>> No.22553778

nge is fine i just can't put it on the level of yuruyuri and texhnolyze personally

>> No.22553779

>>22553773
it's happened to quite a few people personally and idk what you mean by pride you're the one telling people to rewatch because they must have missed the obvious genius of it

>> No.22553780

all i know about nge comes from bl同人 but yeah shinji is kind of annoying in them

>> No.22553783

gunbuster is a much better show. much important messages without any annoying characters.

>> No.22553797

>>22553779
i didnt tell anyone to rewatch but yes it does take a lot of pride to think you got everything from the first watch

>> No.22553803

>>22553797
can you explain again how rewatching it will make shinji less off a pussy bitch

>> No.22553804

it also takes pride to criticize someone for not rewatching a show with shinji

>> No.22553805

i'm learning japanese for ハルカ from pokemon

>> No.22553817

>>22553803
dont know whats wrong with a character being a pussy in a piece of fiction are you some kind of normie retard

>> No.22553826

>>22553817
i fear this hits the 肝心要na spot in this discussion

>> No.22553829

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GWXXsxa2moA

>> No.22553832

>>22553826
that youre a normie retard?

>> No.22553834

>>22553817
yea it sure is fun to watch someone crying about stupid shit for 10 hours i love it so realistic

>> No.22553840

>>22553832
lmao i'm the nge fan from a few posts above stop the フレンドリー・ファイアーズ

>> No.22553849

whenever i see a character in a show being a little bitch and failing to nut up i get so mad i could break my monitor. almost had to drop hxh (much better show than nge) when gon was being a pussy.

>> No.22553851

havent seen nge yet so gotta leave the thread before it gets spoiled for me, smell you later

>> No.22553855

>>22553832
thanks for posting this gem

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Maybe it's time we stopped talking about how to learn Japanese (or how shit NGE is????) and start talking about ways to isekai ourselves. If I can get paid for knocking up qt ojousamas, I think I won't need Japanese anymore probably.

>> No.22553872

>>22553751
I don't really care to argue the point, but I think it's useful for just reading and consumption as well
you have to realize that by being able to write everything a native speaker can you just gain a far higher understanding and awareness of kanji than you would otherwise
and you also have to consider that every native speaker went through the process of learning it

>> No.22553878

is there an easy way to improve your writing without having to use anki.

>> No.22553887

>>22553878
no

>> No.22553891

>>22553834
can’t tell what problem you have with how realistic or unrealistic it is?

>> No.22553892

why do japanese people use commas differently from how we use them?

>> No.22553893

>>22553892
because japanese is a different language from english. hope this helps.

>> No.22553902

>>22553893
isn't that practically equivalent to "dunno, lol"?

>> No.22553904

I don't use commas

>> No.22553905

>>22553878
start writing things all the time

>> No.22553906

>>22553905
i mean in a structured way since writing is gay.

>> No.22553907

>>22553891
the problem i have is that it's frustrating as fuck to watch someone failing to nut up and isn't enjoyable at all. doesn't matter how deep it is if you have to cringe your way through the whole show

>> No.22553911

http://talkobamato.me/synthesize.py?speech_key=55a8893205becc9850415c6c2940499d

it's no virus i swear

>> No.22553912

why don't those stinky ugly japs use english the same way human beings use it?

>> No.22553917

>>22553902
you may as well ask "why do japanese people use different words from us". what answer do you expect? do you think japanese people know how punctuation is used in english?

>> No.22553924

if a character is a bitch but toughens up is that something you can't stand either?

>> No.22553930

>>22553907
why does it remind you of yourself

>> No.22553931

>>22553911
dude wtf nice virus

>> No.22553935

>>22553924
it depends how long it lasts. i dropped bnha after 5 episodes cuz the mc too much of a pussy for too long. on the other hand gohan only acts like a pussy for one episode at a time then nuts the f*ck up.

>> No.22553939

>>22553906
no

>> No.22553941

>>22553930
no it's just annoying to listen to someone being a whiny bitch lol, if you had a friend like that you'd probably stop talking to them.

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6 episodes into this and i have no idea what the fuck is going on lol it's kinda nice after watching dozens of predictable af shows

>> No.22553955

>>22553924
yes because it reminds me that im a bitch and i'll never change so it pisses me off to see people succeed where i fail

>> No.22553957

https://youtu.be/a5pRW7utttw
this guy would be really fun to hang out with and listen to all day

>> No.22553961

>>22553941
i mean not many people are gonna act like that in everyday life but the stakes are obviously high enough in the show that it doesnt break suspension of disbelief for his character and you shouldnt really cringe outside of a few scenes

>> No.22553965

i never dropped zeta gundam or 未来少年コナン, despite hating their protagonists, just because i didn't wanna add more dropped anime.
in spite of that, i had no qualms dropping highschool dxd or gundam seed

>> No.22553974

>>22553892
basically whenever they want a pause or a short stop for various reasons (pace/flow or rhyme scheme or even involving number of syllables between stops) they can use a comma and because they arent bound by the rules of english they get to basically just do whatever they want with it and u have to obey its pretty fucked up its basically like language god mode (iddqd) lmfao

>> No.22553982

encountered でげす for the second time

>> No.22553988

>>22553961
>shouldnt really cringe outside of a few scenes
i cringe every time shinji is on screen he's just a little wormboy. they should have got a better pilot and just killed him.

>> No.22554007

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6baxrjDukaQ

>> No.22554010

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GfhrANjxWno

>> No.22554012

>>22553988
are you the guy that thought lcd wouldnt do anything for you and quiz because you are too smart?

>> No.22554013

lol

>> No.22554014

>>22554012
>lcd
lsd*

>> No.22554016

>>22554012
no that's me but i respect ciaran

>> No.22554017

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lYBIRHi5-o8#t=114

>> No.22554021

>>22554012
no im the guy who did lsd multiple times but didn't have any real revelations from it.

>> No.22554025

pretty much all shounen made in the late 90s or later are better than dbz.

>> No.22554027

>>22554017
j truly has a link for each and every possible reaction

>> No.22554028

only low iq people use the word "bitch" except for me for the purpose of making this post.

>> No.22554030

>>22554025
completely wrong lol. they're just imitations without soul or heart.

>> No.22554031

>>22554025
i hope ur not saying dbgt is better than dbz cuz thats a fatal flaw w. ur frankly piss poor theory

>> No.22554032

how do i filter people who dont like nge and also people who talk about shounen and dont like slice of life anime

>> No.22554036

>>22554028
im also excluded when i call you a pussy bitch in this post right here

>> No.22554039

>>22554028
i say it for the i aint no punk bitch meme

>> No.22554040

>>22554032
you can leave the thread cause you just described the only good posters.

>> No.22554041

>>22554027
its more like i always wanna link that vid but only sometimes does the appropriate moment present itself

the thread being utterly fuckign terrible for example lol

>> No.22554042

>>22554036
nope

>> No.22554047

>>22554039
that's fine too

>> No.22554049

>>22554041
but this thread is and always will be the worst on 4channel

>> No.22554050

>>22554040
no you see i want to filter those people and stay for jamal and the other good posters

>> No.22554051

>>22554030
they refine dbz's formula by cutting out all the boring one dimensional characters, fights, and shit pacing.
>>22554031
true but i said "pretty much" there's bound to be exceptions.

>> No.22554053

i filtered the word 'filter' long ago

>> No.22554058

my reading speed increases the closer i get to my climax and afterwards it's like at 20% of my maximum 収容力

>> No.22554064

>>22554051
>they refine dbz's formula by cutting out all the boring one dimensional characters, fights, and shit pacing.
there are no one dimensional characters in dbz. i think that's just your memory of the shitty innacurate dub. the pacing issues are overstated too. it's perfectly played out most of the time.

>> No.22554070

>>22554064
bursts of development every 100 episodes aren't sufficient. and the pacing is bad even in kai.

>> No.22554074
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22554074

so heres todays "so how long have u been 'learning' japanese and how much of this do u understand" post

be good boys thread looks pretty foul im not lookin forward to havin to come clean up all this mess in a couple days

>> No.22554078

>>22554070
regardless of what you think there's more heart and soul in 5 mins of any dbz episode than an entire series of whatever lifeless ripoff that has tried to shed everything in the process of making the "perfect shonen".

>> No.22554080

>>22553635
no cap i don't think any other anime will ever make me as >happy< as k-on! did, thats far more important than deep lore for me, i still get internal smiles when i see screencaps of it

>> No.22554083

>>22554074
2.5 years?
50%

>> No.22554085

i'm so glad i'm watching the heart and soul of this 50 IQ dbz checkers game.

>> No.22554086

>>22554074
2.95
100%

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