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/tmg/ - Type-Moon General Anonymous Mon Nov 25 00:02:16 2019 No.22480660 [Reply] [Original]

This thread is for the discussion of any and all works by by Kinoko Nasu / TYPE-MOON.

Download Links:
>A collection of all official Japanese versions of TYPE-MOON PC Games (work in progress)
https://mega.nz/#F!BA4yHYoT!NwGVKj4q9Z1vnpKlYY-4UQ

>Kara no Kyoukai
novels: https://emptyboundaries.wordpress.com/2011/07/25/kara-no-kyokai-translations-2/
movies: https://nyaa.si/view/264295

>Tsukihime
Tsukihime - Blue Blue Glass Moon, Under The Crimson Air.
https://mega.nz/#!6TBSSTbR!4O6JYv1dyyRw7GQeHJ4NIUYUTQ--tuy9H8s69HgL5lY
Tsukihime PLUS+DISC - Alliance of Illusionary Eyes
https://nyaa.si/view/453758
Tsukihime Kagetsu Tohya - Twilight Grass Moon, Fairy Tale Princess.
https://sukebei.nyaa.si/view/2502321
Tsukihime Manga
https://mega.nz/#F!dRwwAZrT!uxmDDlwDTu3bgo9QIKgSrQ

>Melty Blood
Melty Blood PC games (Original + ReACT + Act Cadenza + Actress Again Current Code)
https://nyaa.si/view/1042489
MBAACC - Community Edition
https://mega.nz/#!6FUx2C6a!L2AxbiQzPHtgRI3YPHv4NZfi2EYS9RMeNHoSp6pAcFw
Melty Blood Manga (divided into two parts: the first part, spanning volumes 1-6, follows the original Melty Blood storyline. "2nd ACT" spans volumes 7-9. Melty Blood X is based on the Melty Blood Drama CD -Rojiura Pyramid Night-)
https://mega.nz/#F!syICRSJI!TeAS9ZVFSDQigguqxn_MwA
Melty Blood Manga - Back Alley Alliance Nightmare
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/16jgRv-WneCDBF324U_MFsuguPFTt2J0S

>Fate/series
Fate/stay night [Réalta Nua]
https://sukebei.nyaa.si/view/2386805
Fate/hollow ataraxia
https://sukebei.nyaa.si/view/2575055
Fate/Zero novels
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B-5XtCxJULf4YWZfSkZKWGc2S2M
Lord El-Melloi II's Case Files novels
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B13rmXgOUD7NdUV2NDR2bWo1clU
Fate/Strange Fake Light Novel
http://humbertozero.tumblr.com/post/150696689780/how-to-read-fatestrange-fake-light-novel-read

>Mahoutsukai no Yoru (魔法使いの夜)
English Translation Patch (Chapter 1–7): https://mega.nz/#F!loBEBJDB!LMlgzDXX_ZnnRtnKFbXhQQ
French Translation Patch: https://github.com/IDerr/mahoyo-french

Novels/Manga:
>Angel Voice (anthology containing two separate angel themed stories: Notes by Nasu and Clockwick Canaan-Veil by Takeuchi.)
http://www.mediafire.com/file/4w9jk2bwy8b0xsh/Angel_Notes.zip
>Fate/Apocrypha
https://fateapocryphathetranslation.wordpress.com/volume-1/pdf-and-epub-version-2/
>Fate/Prototype: Fragments of Sky Silver
http://www.mediafire.com/file/myvc2c0ydv2lqhq/Fate%25EF%25BC%258FPrototype_Fragments_of_Sky_Silver_Vol_1.pdf/file
>Fire Girl
https://firegirlthetranslation.wordpress.com/
>Today's Menu for the Emiya Family
vol. 1: https://mega.nz/#!qlczzYiI!bnZsuBiMRVCKmugwizlIGc-0Bm1rXUXk_locMF7ogIU
vol. 2: https://mega.nz/#!T0UD0SBQ!yL4vw1j91cXFyFfVsUbyeRuJb4vTCesOhQqo9mmFtlA
>Tsuki no Sango - Coral of the Moon
https://www.mediafire.com/?uq1eqhccbxhxktx

Helpful TYPE-MOON-related links:
>Beast's Lair forum
forums.nrvnqsr.com
>Encyclopedia of Type Moon
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B49crU71miHObWRvV2tDUllYTjQ/edit?usp=sharing
>Fate/Complete Material II: Character Material
https://pastebin.com/Zjy1Sj6d
>Fate/stay night [Unlimited Blade Works] Deluxe Booklet
part 1: https://anidb.net/forum/thread/56958
part 2: https://imgur.com/a/zzgtH
>Fate/stay night [Heaven's Feel] Animation Material (Deluxe booklet featuring staff interviews)
https://imgur.com/a/yhv4ZNd
>Fate Franchise Loseless Soundtracks
https://mega.nz/#F!OQwx1DYA!1c0Dkm1VfOPpthg6etuU4g
>Fuyuki Rebuild
http://tatari.co.nf/fuyuki/index.htm
>mirrormoon
http://mirrormoon.org/
>TMdict, a light-weight, multi-lingual TYPE-MOON glossary
tmdict.com/
>Tsuki-kan, a small fansite containing bits and pieces of information on all things TYPE-MOON
tsukikan.com/
>Tsukihime doujins from 2008
https://mega.nz/#!fHgSVb5L!EPDHKU2KHLdjW1bM2b0-VV7WzrA9xPqrLnJTu0AkwyY
>Tsukihime Music Collection
https://nyaa.si/view/1090729
>Type-Moon Mega folders
https://mega.nz/#F!tBRTDDLT!6-uk9SmrvHKLFYU_3QTwgQ
https://mega.nz/#F!IEgnySDK!wvEo43UGmHFEKC1JBVykGw

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>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 25 00:07:18 2019 No.22480670 >>22480660 meh op

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 25 00:10:15 2019 No.22480678 I like how you didn't include FGO

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>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 25 00:45:59 2019 No.22480783 >>22480746 god I hate Rin

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 25 01:41:19 2019 No.22480914 >>22480660 I LOVE LOVE LOVE LOVE HISUI

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 25 02:58:49 2019 No.22481077 >>22480660 Why is Gorgon also Tiamat?

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Anonymous Mon Nov 25 23:12:57 2019 No.22485463

>on re-read of FSN
>on UBW
>that scene where Saber gets wrecked by Kuzuki
God damn I love that scene so much. Even though the narration goes out of its way to make sure you know Saber would have been killed if she didn't have god-like sense/intuition, it's still pretty satisfying.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 26 00:08:23 2019 No.22485646 >>22485463 It is those details of the narration that make VNs so unique. It is indeed sad that everybody nowdays are reducing and simplifying things just to attact a twitter based audience.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 26 11:29:51 2019 No.22487665 Is there a translation of CCC True Route, or even a summary? The only thing I could find was the Gil route

Anonymous Tue Nov 26 11:52:37 2019 No.22487745

>>22487665
I believe all the game was translated on youtube no?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o3aXnFZm6ns&list=PLtzekLVKG1PDfZWoIMvdxxE8DbqJsduuZ
This guy here translated everything that could be found in the game I think. Just check his channel for all else.

Anonymous Tue Nov 26 12:45:08 2019 No.22487916

>>22487745
It's far from completion and considering that last update was 5 months ago it doesn't look very promising.
>>22487665
I believe you won't find anything else aside from these videos for the True Route translations. As a sort of summary you can probably read Kiara's and BB's articles on TM wikia.

Anonymous Tue Nov 26 19:02:54 2019 No.22489542

OK but can someone explain to me why Kirei hates Zouken so much? I read through Heaven's Feel and everything but I don't get it. Kirei insults Zouken more than any other character in the series and I still don't know why because the 2 have barely interacted at all.

Does Zero fix this?

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 26 19:20:16 2019 No.22489598 >>22489542 Natural enemies of the church

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 26 19:21:28 2019 No.22489604 >>22489542 Zouken is a fucking faggot. I hated him too.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 26 19:25:55 2019 No.22489625 File: 182 KB, 1000x2101, 795181720e736a8423b749aed1b08081.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>22480660 Why is Sakura so underrated?

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 26 22:08:26 2019 No.22490265 The old man knows right that Rin didn't make the jeweled sword by herself and had help from Shirou?

Anonymous Tue Nov 26 23:13:00 2019 No.22490525
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>>22489625
>She received a game just for her
>She has like 6 versions
>Sakuraface is already a thing
>There a fucking studio with a name based on one of her versions
Underrated? Really?
I mean, she got lots of haters, but that is normal. That doesn't mean she's uderrated.

Anonymous Wed Nov 27 03:09:30 2019 No.22491174
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It's nice that they finally stop side tracking and finished the damn thing for once, but the real question here is will they continue it? I can't help but feel like Sakurai has some personal grudge/agenda against Prototype.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 27 03:18:49 2019 No.22491196 >>22491174 Sakurai feels like he is cucking himself from Ayaka because he can't self-insert into ProtoSaber

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 27 03:48:56 2019 No.22491243 https://files.catbox.moe/ojkbgg.mp4 Proto Mordred

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 27 03:51:07 2019 No.22491249 >>22491243 I don't trust

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 27 04:22:56 2019 No.22491304 >>22491249 ?

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 27 04:28:28 2019 No.22491316 >>22489542 In Zero he also hated him, because Zouken was using his own child as a plaything, for which even he wasn’t evil enough.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 27 04:37:24 2019 No.22491333 >>22491304 I saw the words Proto Mordred and expected some fujoshit

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 27 04:49:32 2019 No.22491360 >>22491174 I'm getting irritated because they still haven't published a picture of Proto Merlin.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 27 04:57:08 2019 No.22491369 >>22491333 That's from the latest Fragments Drama CD...

Anonymous Wed Nov 27 07:52:34 2019 No.22491804
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>>22489625
Because she's a waifu just for Shirou and not for (You), she isn't as popular as the other heroines. She also doesn't have much screentime compared to them. And then you have to consider the amount of Fate fans who didn't even play the VN, so their only knowledge of Sakura is Zero, UBW, and CP.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 27 08:04:00 2019 No.22491843 >>22491174 I'll take anything at this fucking point. An anime, a manga, a movie.

Anonymous Wed Nov 27 08:15:48 2019 No.22491910

>>22491174
>I can't help but feel like Sakurai has some personal grudge/agenda against Prototype.
What makes you think so? Though at the very least i think there's something wrong with the production and Nakahara considering the last Drama CD got delayed and the cover is not even a new art.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 27 08:32:46 2019 No.22491996 >>22491196 To be honest I also feel like I'm getting cucked with Ayaka. We barely see her, and when we do, she's a loli.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 27 09:11:04 2019 No.22492188 >>22491243 Proto Mordred's voice is hot, especially the "chichiue" line. Who is his seiyuu?

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 27 09:16:20 2019 No.22492215 >>22491243 Nice. I'm glad it's Merlin narrating this and not the dumb Proto fem Merlin for whatever reason.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 27 09:20:05 2019 No.22492232 >>22492215 But the narration is from Arthur Proto no? There is a battle with Lucius where everything is narrated by Proto Merlin. And who gives a fuck about that FGO shit.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 27 09:20:53 2019 No.22492235 >>22492232 Ah okay that makes sense. This isn't FGO shit though? I thought it was a Proto drama CD.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 27 09:24:34 2019 No.22492247 >>22492232 >And who gives a fuck about that FGO shit. ? Merlin isn't even a FGO original character

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 27 09:25:57 2019 No.22492257 File: 443 KB, 1080x1528, IMG_4163.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>22491243 Arthur & Lucius battle https://www.weibo.com/1767335343/Ii3K8hemX?from=page_1005051767335343_profile&wvr=6&mod=weibotime

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 27 09:27:06 2019 No.22492264 >>22492215 That's Arthur not Merlin, though they share the same VA

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 27 09:43:49 2019 No.22492364 >>22492188 https://twitter.com/haruki_yokkora/status/1199195895457144832 Haruki Ishiya. It seems like he's a big FGOfag.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 27 10:38:12 2019 No.22492615 >>22492247 >>22492235 The only Merlin personality we know is from FGO, as all other instances he appeared as an narrator, so yeah, he is more of a FGO character for now. Maybe is Nasu make a proper VN with him we can stop calling him like that.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 27 10:40:03 2019 No.22492630 >>22492615 He has a personality in FSN even though he's a background character.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 27 10:47:52 2019 No.22492672 >>22492630 What about Garden of Avalon?

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 27 10:48:48 2019 No.22492677 >>22492672 A little bit, yeah, though he's a narrator for most of it.

Anonymous Wed Nov 27 14:09:53 2019 No.22493577

>>22491910
I spite the feeling that I know anything that they do will have to connect to FGO in one way or another. Fragment characters are export for FGO, lore detail and such from one IP has an effect on FGO or vice versa. Sakurai made several changes too, including the lines changes and such to make the characters marketable. I'll be more contended if they established Prototype foundation and character structure before they market them, but the fact that the actual prototype itself has not happen yet and they are already shilling the characters base on the FGO fan's interest devalue them. I hope that if they ever continue prototype, they'll do without the intention of glamorizing the plot/characters for fanservice sake. Fandom can change how author 's perception and opinion and Prototype not having a clear identity can easily be altered for consumer convenience.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 27 15:04:40 2019 No.22493799 Does anyone have the Prototype Drama CD raws btw? Every time I look for them I either get the novel or the OVA. And the translations on youtube are only up to Disk 1 of Volume 1 it seems.

Anonymous Wed Nov 27 15:21:06 2019 No.22493889

>>22493577
>Prototype not having a clear identity can easily be altered for consumer convenience
On one hand: the biggest fear. On the other hand though, I don't think there's anything wrong with altering Prototype. It could be fleshed out more, change some concepts so things flow better or are more original. The fact that it s a rough draft heavily shows. My only problem is having some OTHER than Sakurai write, since she/he/they have shown themselves to be pretty damn incompetent at writing not just for Fate, but writing characters that AREN'T super speshul and made to be gushed over by everyone.

>>22493799
Gotch senpai: http://forums.nrvnqsr.com/showthread.php/1502-Fate-Prototype/page397?p=2926160#post2926160

Anonymous Wed Nov 27 15:55:42 2019 No.22494016
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The absolute issue is a big pink elephant in the room that nobody wanna see: the fact that Nasu himself is tired of building his own project.
To those who finished Realta Nua ending and to those who hhave to do it: read again the final narration about "a world and story that belongs to everyone and will be continued by everyone".
You will understand that Nasu have been tired and bored of bulding his own universe for a long time WHILE he doesn't want to actually close it as a finished project. So what happens? He gives the chance to some close friends and possible indications from Takeuchi (which will always pick profit makers) to do the work he doesn't want to do anymore. Nasu will just keep playing games and eat fast food until he dies, the dream of any otaku/neet.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 27 16:03:13 2019 No.22494039 >>22493889 Thanks. And Volume 4 came out today apparently, let's hope someone can upload that soon. I'm EOP though so I'll only be able to enjoy Volume 1 regardless lmao.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 27 16:05:23 2019 No.22494048 >>22494039 Oh shit nvm. Volume 4 is already out, Volume 5 is the one that came out today. Time to scour the internet again -_-.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 27 16:10:54 2019 No.22494077 >>22494039 >>22494048 I didn't care to upload 4 cause I thought someone already did, and I'm working on 5. I'll put them in the same thread once I'm done.

Anonymous Wed Nov 27 16:22:36 2019 No.22494133

The characters in HF are them in their worst possible state. Rin acts cruel towards Sakura by insulting her and threatening to kill her. And what do the other characters do? Shirou? He's a dumbass who is oblivious to everything around Sakura. Illya? She knows what's going on with Sakura and what does she do? Absolutely fucking nothing. Rider? She does nothing she's not even a character in HF, she just exists.

Anonymous Wed Nov 27 16:54:20 2019 No.22494257

>>22493889
I think it can only be done by Sakurai or Nasu for now. It would be nice to have Nasu aboard to help out. It could be better with the modern touch, but I just don't like it when the it turn into a fandom dictated narration. I don't mind Prototype Fans, but I hate FGO fans who only jump into Prototype half hardheartedly because FGO sell them a caricature of the show so they can only be bother looking into it because of a superficial interest.

Anonymous Wed Nov 27 17:09:11 2019 No.22494309

>>22494257
Well Sakurai better wise the fuck up. Maybe with no speshul cute girl for them to break the pacing to fawn over, we might get something.

I heard that their writing in the Norse Lostbelt was their best writing for Fate, but it had shit like Scathac=Skadi, so who the fuck knows.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 27 17:11:58 2019 No.22494319 >>22494133 Are you sure you read the whole route?

Anonymous Wed Nov 27 17:30:21 2019 No.22494399
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Hey anons, I have some doubts about the Tsukihime remake, apart from adding new stuff (like Satsuki route) and the new character...did Nasu said something more about changing things?, I've heard some anons say that he changed the setting to a big city setting, it's that true?.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 27 18:06:37 2019 No.22494536 File: 233 KB, 1600x1200, 67.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>22494399 Yeah apparently they are making the city a bit bigger to contrast with the town setting of MnY

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 27 18:26:46 2019 No.22494622 >>22494536 aww makes sense, still I really loved the atmosphere of the OG, I wonder how the change in setting is going to affect the plot and those things. PS:Nice plushies

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 27 20:20:12 2019 No.22495143 Archer smugly shitting on Shirou in UBW is so great.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 27 20:59:08 2019 No.22495349 >>22495143 In turn, Kuzuki bluntly shitting on EMIYA in the UBW anime was also great.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 27 21:15:41 2019 No.22495436 >>22494077 I'll wait for that then. Thanks a whole lot btw.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 27 21:17:27 2019 No.22495441 Hey Casterfags A while back some of you guys posted a doujin novel series and were looking for the fourth one. I found a used copy up for sale online and went ahead and bought it, I'll post updates if it actually arrives

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 27 21:21:34 2019 No.22495454 >>22495441 Nice

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 27 21:34:14 2019 No.22495512 File: 397 KB, 640x480, 1497951521_ed_chaBG51a_00.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Do not lose hope, child of man. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YR4ff-PtT6Y

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 27 21:43:10 2019 No.22495548 >>22494309 Speaking of Sakurai's writing, Jekyll's side story in TM Ace 11 was a good read for me but this is more FGO-related, not Fragments tho.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 27 23:26:03 2019 No.22495890 Today is Nasu's birthday!

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 27 23:27:52 2019 No.22495904 Do you like type moon?

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 28 00:37:07 2019 No.22496117 >>22481077 Epic twist incoming

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 28 00:49:21 2019 No.22496145 >>22495904 Not the current one.

tsukihimefag Thu Nov 28 07:48:18 2019 No.22497131

You know something that seems wasted on Nasu?
His ability to make suspense, mistery and horror.
He more often than not made me feel somewhat frightened when reading his narrations, but at the same time, I know that it was not actually his intention on doing it (at least not seriously).
This is something that will never be proper used as Nasu focus on happy stories with more juvenile thematic. Which is a waste.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 28 07:58:28 2019 No.22497168 File: 98 KB, 768x768, EKdhovWU4AIoc0u.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] https://twitter.com/nanoneko01/status/1200035183207993344

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 28 11:02:17 2019 No.22497918 I need hope

Anonymous Thu Nov 28 13:57:55 2019 No.22498577

>>22497131
I think it was intentional in his earlier works, even the Fate route (bad ends, gae bolg, bloodfort, church basement, to name a few). But yeah, that's been completely absent for the last decade and he doesn't seem at all interested in returning to that style.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 28 15:07:51 2019 No.22498774 >>22494399 Are there some news about the remake? The last time I checked, it was doubtful whether they plan to release it ever.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 28 15:47:23 2019 No.22498959 >>22498774 Recent interview said it was in playtesting.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 28 16:10:21 2019 No.22499082 >Arceuid route Series by JC Staff >Ciel route Series by Ufotable >Akiha route Movie by Ufotable >Hisui route Movie by Ufotable >Kohaku route Movie by Ufotable >Sacchin route 5 min OVA by Lerche

Anonymous Thu Nov 28 16:19:36 2019 No.22499149

>>22498774
Let's say the remake comes out and sells 500k copies(unrealistically high). It's around $70kk.
Which is less than what FGO makes every goddamn month.
Why would TM even touch the remake at this point? Why would they try hard to do something good for pocket change when they can just print money without breaking a sweat instead? Nasu and everyone at TM probably have their own families. The mushroom's wife wants a new car, the kids need a good education, he himself always wanted that comfy villa in Monaco. There's no reason to waste time on Tsukihime. Unless it's an FGO event.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 28 16:48:14 2019 No.22499301 >>22498774 I believe the Remake will come out within the next few years but it will be truncated and likely not what people were expecting.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 28 17:55:41 2019 No.22499583 >>22499301 Yeah I have this expectation too. Like maybe there will be a few routes, but def not the 5 we had in the original

Anonymous Thu Nov 28 19:34:28 2019 No.22499918

>>22499149
I don't think Mushroom has a family, I mean, besides his brothers, sisters and etc. Nasu is a very agreeable person and do not make much initiatives and seems to not be your typical conservative japanese. I would even quesiton his sexuality.
Now, one that could actually have those definitions is Takeuchi, as he is very disagreeable and have tons of entrerpeneur personality, which leads probably to that.
But no interview nor byography talked about they marrying someone, and there was a pretty detailed life path registered on book for that not to be mentioned.
I mean, it is not impossible for them to not be married, but I wouldn't be surprised if they were your typical virgin otaku.
Regarding if they would do things based only on money, I don't know Nasu, but obviously Takeuchi and Sony will try to keep the cashcow alive.
Nasu being a capitalist pig or not will always be irrelevant as he has 0 power over what he created frankly.
On a personal note: sometimes people talk about the VN series Dies Irea as being unsuccesfull because they tried to do the same as Nasu and failed but I think their ending was better for the work they created. We won't have to see stains on that project, the same we see today on the Fate franchise and will see on all TM projects.

Anonymous Fri Nov 29 03:46:50 2019 No.22501206

>>22499149
>he himself always wanted that comfy villa in Monaco
I know this is just an example, but the only way I could imagine this happening, if Takeuchi pressured him into living like a rich man.
> "Come on, you can't just a rent a cheap flat to play vidya all day, go for something biggger!"

Anonymous Fri Nov 29 06:45:57 2019 No.22501736

https://youtu.be/95843XKB734?t=225
one of the character designers for the Babylonia anime, working under Takeuchi went on a rant about how the anime is actually pretty shit.
>It's actually boring. Not well done at all, doesn't grap my interest.
>FGO doesn't even have a protagonist, the story can't establish itself.
>How is it supposed to be interesting when they don't even show what is going on inside the "protagonist"
>And if they did that they'd just get flamed for changing the source material
>Even apocrypha was better, at least that had a protagonist with Sieg.
>One piece doesn't really deal with what is going on inside Ruffy either, but the plot and developments do a good job at establishing him as the main character. Babylonia doesn't even have that.
>In episode 8 he just stood around doing nothing. He can't even carry the creators feelings.
>If I said that Babylonia is interesting I feel it would be the end of me(as a creator).
>I just remembered the position I'm in so I won't talk about this anymore. They're listening.

here's a bunch of shit he worked on as an animator: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sfAhbO3uU0k

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 29 06:54:32 2019 No.22501765 >>22501736 >Even apocrypha was better, at least that had a protagonist with Sieg. opinion discarded

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 29 06:55:57 2019 No.22501769 >>22501765 It is actually looking to be that way, Apoc at least made people feel something, whether good or bad. This is just bland.

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 29 07:36:35 2019 No.22501890 >>22501736 I'm an eop, is this what he's saying?

Anonymous Fri Nov 29 07:39:54 2019 No.22501895

>>22501736
>one of the character designers for the Babylonia anime, working under Takeuchi
Where did you get that info? He's a character designer of Camelot anime but doesn't work on Babylonia though. That guy is also a key animation of Apocrypha anime, Occultic;Nine, Azur Lane,...

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 29 07:45:46 2019 No.22501907 >>22501895 oh guess I mixed camelot and babylonia up, still.

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 29 07:59:13 2019 No.22501961 I think nasu gave up on making anything aside from fgo

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 29 08:24:51 2019 No.22502053 >>22501961 Nasu says he wants to do EXTRA series remake when he's still alive

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 29 13:53:30 2019 No.22503310 >>22489542 Zouken is like Kiritsugu.

Anonymous Fri Nov 29 13:56:02 2019 No.22503326

>>22492630
>>22492615
Nasu called Merlin a FGO original character. He published Garden of Avalon as his backstory but his role in FGO was written or outlined beforehand. Not every FGO character is bad. It's just most are. Merlin being from the Round Table means Nasu gives a shit about coherent world building lore.

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 29 14:31:03 2019 No.22503501 File: 98 KB, 1280x720, karna.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Does anyone know why Karna can shoot lasers out of his eyes? And also, does this attack have a name?

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 29 14:37:10 2019 No.22503529 >>22503501 It's called Brahmastra, and it's a Noble Phantasm that I think is based on his original myth (I can't remember). Though you should read the myth regardless, it's pretty interesting.

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 29 14:38:04 2019 No.22503532 >>22503501 Brahmastra, it's pretty well described in the TM wiki if you wanna read more about his powers.

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 29 14:42:47 2019 No.22503553 >>22503326 Whether you consider Merlin bad or not relies on whether you consider Nasu's rendition of Arthurian lore bad. And the way the artist depicted Merlin's appearance.

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 29 14:47:16 2019 No.22503567 >>22503529 >>22503532 Thanks guys

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 29 15:09:11 2019 No.22503681 File: 153 KB, 333x254, 1574649086652.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>22499583 >a few routes If we get this and Arc as a servant in FGO that would be more than enough for me. It'd just be nice to see them revisit the characters.

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 29 15:35:45 2019 No.22503806 >>22503681 I'd rather they forget her entirely than put her in fgo at least she'd retain her dignity

Anonymous Fri Nov 29 18:10:53 2019 No.22504456

>>22503326
>>22503553
My original argument was not that Merlin is a bad character, that is kind of bizarre to say even, because that would mean saying classic literature Merlin is bad. This is by no means my point.
The point is that the rendition or personality or even yet, rereading of Merlin on FGO, which is the most famous, most accepted by the public and creators and therefore the most relevant is bad. Why? Because there are tons of the same thing being made by other games that have better interpretations of the literature.
TL;DR FGO has the effect of making characters that were awesome originally in shit characters.

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 29 18:12:10 2019 No.22504463 >>22504456 >because that would mean saying classic literature Merlin is bad You're giving the original myths way too much credit. None of that shit was well written like a novel or whatever.

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 29 18:13:39 2019 No.22504467 >>22503806 Yeah, just check Saber Void. Aparently they think it is funny to have a entity as immaculate as the root, probably the God of Nasuverse, transformed in a shitty fanservice.

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 29 18:15:35 2019 No.22504476 >>22504463 Epic literature and Chivalry novels are favorites of mine, so the overcredit is actually a bias of mine. But the original myths are better than a Merlin that suggests a girl holding the Galahad spirit to go on a date with a cardboard MC.

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 29 18:18:47 2019 No.22504488 >>22504476 >But the original myths are better than a Merlin that suggests a girl holding the Galahad spirit to go on a date with a cardboard MC. Definitely not going to argue with you there.

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 29 19:53:20 2019 No.22504900 >>22501736 >browses sakugabooru >>22501890 Sounds legit.

Anonymous Fri Nov 29 20:14:32 2019 No.22505049
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>>22501736
Absolutely based, fuck self-insert fags and fuck pretending that FGO's story is worth a shit "despite the protagonist".

>>22501765
He's right though, apocrypha was at least an attempt, even if it failed miserably.

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 29 23:55:27 2019 No.22506518 Does all the einzbern homonculus somehow inherit all the memories of past einzberns?

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 29 23:59:18 2019 No.22506545 >>22506518 Nah but Illya has Justeaze's personality in her somehow.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 30 03:51:01 2019 No.22507282 >>22499301 I expect the horrible redesigned art, shoehorned in FGO references into the story, and Satsuki's route somehow connecting to the FGO universe so that FGO can have a Tsukihime event.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 30 03:52:18 2019 No.22507288 >>22495441 Nice, I was the original poster of that, thanks Anon. If you know Jap, message the guy on twitter and ask for the pdf. I'm sure he'll give it out if asked.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 30 12:04:26 2019 No.22509328 https://twitter.com/FAUST_editor_J/status/1200765157904748544 DDD manga?

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 30 12:08:35 2019 No.22509348 >>22509328 That would be nice. But it's not like DDD itself has been coming out. Also, JP niggas translate.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 30 14:42:49 2019 No.22510139 >>22509328 Yeah this is exactly what we wanted, thank you Nasu https://youtu.be/s8ofz1OnlNI

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 30 15:59:32 2019 No.22510500 >>22506518 >>22506545 And if you take the HF manga as canon in any way, Sakura also inherited fragments of Justeaze's memory.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 30 16:17:30 2019 No.22510585 >>22503806 What would be bad about FGO Arc? Is it the skimpy outfits? Just curious. I agree, its not a great game.

Anonymous Sat Nov 30 16:26:48 2019 No.22510640

>>22510585
FGO has a serious problem of changing the core of the Nasuverse for better marketing purposes, like the overuse of genderbending even when it has bad evidence of it.
Arcueid in FGO would only appear to sell more quartz and Nasu would have to bend reality and destroy pretty much what we know as Tsukihime for that to happen.
That interview and blog post of him saying how both timelines are different and how there is now reason for those characters to appear at all is what kinda of saves Tsukihime and most non-human order timelines for me, aside from them being actually more interesting.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 30 16:29:16 2019 No.22510657 >>22480678 seething about the new canon, anon?

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 30 17:05:21 2019 No.22510825 >>22510139 Exactly what I wanted, anyway

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 30 17:32:43 2019 No.22510949 >>22510657 Come back from /fgog/ when this starts working.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 30 19:32:21 2019 No.22511401 I spent so long trying to fix CD 5's artwork on my shitty ass laptop, I give up. To anyone who wants the Prototype drama CDs 4 & 5, here ya go: https://mega.nz/#F!aJEHnKRC!2ukcYvXIllTRKAQrecMssg https://mega.nz/#F!DMc2GI4Q!NYRzWpOxeSUJ9PUcs7-7Cg

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 30 20:26:35 2019 No.22511674 >>22511401 Thank you so much.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 30 21:26:17 2019 No.22511908 >>22511401 Thank you sir, your work shall not be wasted;

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 1 00:51:10 2019 No.22512744 >>22511401 Thanks a lot anon

>>	tsukirecountdown Sun Dec 1 05:48:16 2019 No.22513604 File: 950 B, 126x75, 23.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Prepare for disappointment.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 1 11:07:54 2019 No.22514992 >>22491174 I half-expect Prototype (not Fragments, Ayaka's one) to end up a somewhat rushed one cour anime original.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 1 12:45:01 2019 No.22515497 https://vocaroo.com/cbtE0PxaVUC i'll just leave this recording of the stage with Tsuruoka from AFA yesterday here

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 1 13:37:53 2019 No.22515732 File: 12 KB, 251x251, 1406691971455.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>22513604 I can't be disappointed if I already have zero expectations.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 1 13:43:56 2019 No.22515760 >>22513604 >>22515732 What's happening?

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 1 13:44:47 2019 No.22515764 >>22515760 Nothing but some delusional people believe something will happen.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 1 14:10:10 2019 No.22515877 are the drama cds worth going through?

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 1 14:11:14 2019 No.22515885 >>22515877 Type Moon drama CDs in general, I mean.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 1 15:40:07 2019 No.22516279 >>22515885 Yes, because they actually follows a good story method. Even the drama CD from FGO is good because it is audio drama quality.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 2 02:45:29 2019 No.22518785 >>22480660 did they fix the HA voice patch crashes?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 2 02:52:29 2019 No.22518795 >>22518785 I don't rememeber playing HA having voice patch crashes, so I guess yes? Although the one I played was not from this thread.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 2 03:08:30 2019 No.22518840 File: 504 KB, 1152x864, crash.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>22518795 it would crash for the censored Caren scene, though the OP version is fixed, so I'll just use that.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 2 03:30:59 2019 No.22518890 >>22518840 there's a censor for HA?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 2 04:25:45 2019 No.22519016 >>22518890 well yeah, it came from the same source as the voice patch. same with FSN, for that matter.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 2 05:56:36 2019 No.22519154 >>22515877 Starlit Marmalade and the MB ones are essential if you care about HibiChika and Back Alley Alliance respectively.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 2 09:28:01 2019 No.22519641 >>22514992 No way. It's still a HGW story (with 2 cliffhangers, no less), so it'd have to be 2 cour, even if most of the main cast end up dying off.

>>	tsukirecountdown Mon Dec 2 10:09:28 2019 No.22519797 File: 596 B, 120x74, 22.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Disappointment is coming.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 2 10:12:29 2019 No.22519807 >>22519797 Why would you expect anything on Christmas dumbass? The 19th anniversary is on the 29th. And if anything were to be announced I would bet more on New Year's.

tsukirecountdown Mon Dec 2 10:29:14 2019 No.22519879

>>22519807
Arcueid's birthday is 25th.
It will be after the two major events that could steal marketing attention (Xmas and LB5).
The 19th seems more to be a Fate thing from the imagens on twitter.
Having something happen on New Years would also steal marketing attention (because of New Year gacha).
The only possibility is if you're implying that Arcueid SSR will be released on New Year's as a limited. Which is possible, but seems unlikely.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 2 17:10:59 2019 No.22521418 >>22480746 Saber is too cute!

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 2 18:55:56 2019 No.22521780 >>22518785 >>22518840 OP version is v1.0.0 which still crashes in certain hanafuda mini-game scenarios. Get v1.0.1 off of the BL voice patch thread if you care about that.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 2 19:24:42 2019 No.22521902 >>22521780 >v1.0.1 Damn, this patch got really advanced. I just remember playing the initial crappy English patch when it was leaked by that one guy.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 2 19:36:34 2019 No.22521955 >>22521902 Yea, the previous versions really upset public opinion on the patch, plus the knowledge that its translation was troubled and it taking years to finish. Now its probably one of the best, and even better than the FSN patch/translation IMO.

Anonymous Mon Dec 2 19:42:36 2019 No.22521978

>>22521955
>Now its probably one of the best, and even better than the FSN patch/translation IMO.
Probably not a high bar to clear honestly. I haven't been able to get the H scenes patch to work in Realta Nua with Japanese text so just gave up and decided to skip the H scenes for now.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 2 20:11:39 2019 No.22522067 >>22521978 >H scenes patch to work in Realta Nua with Japanese text ...Honestly, is the experience for reading those in English that much different from JP?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 2 20:18:00 2019 No.22522100 >>22522067 That's what I want to find out.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 2 20:19:51 2019 No.22522111 >>22522100 Oh. Right. I guess that makes sense. The shitty writing in the sex scenes might be bad translation but we just don't know, try your best to find out eventually.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 2 20:27:22 2019 No.22522130 >>22522111 I really want to know if it actually says "educated prostitute" in that one scene. That's the biggest question I have.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 2 20:39:22 2019 No.22522162 File: 94 KB, 391x325, 1356771100500.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] TYPE-MOON is messing around too much.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 2 20:40:08 2019 No.22522165 >>22522162 More like... not doing anything.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 2 21:26:22 2019 No.22522340 >>22522165 I frankly think they just are the "we do no marketing and hype" types. FGO is different because it mostly managed by DW and Sony. Nasuchi are both just doing their job in their basement. Or so I wish to believe.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 3 02:23:17 2019 No.22523272 how does Shiki survive on a diet of water and ice cream?

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 3 02:59:37 2019 No.22523357 >>22523272 I'm sure Mikiya brings other stuff for her

>>	tsukirecountdown Tue Dec 3 08:51:59 2019 No.22524107 File: 613 B, 120x76, 21.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Disappointment incoming.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 3 08:54:08 2019 No.22524111 File: 67 KB, 190x258, akihuh.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>22524107

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 3 08:58:11 2019 No.22524121 File: 27 KB, 346x346, 1550118723757.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>22524107 Just stop this retard no one cares about your baseless expectations.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 3 11:52:12 2019 No.22524700 Here's what the earlier Kara no Kyoukai movies looked like https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i47ZULGmjls

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 3 12:44:48 2019 No.22524868 >>22524700 That's really cool.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 3 13:02:44 2019 No.22524938 >>22524121 ...And who says anyone cares about your insults against the baseless expectations.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 3 20:20:49 2019 No.22526783 You guys know where to get the ps2 realta nua iso for the voices with the mirror moon patch? And no I won't play the modern realta nua ones, they fucking suck.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 3 20:28:37 2019 No.22526814 >>22526783 Check the site: nyaa dot si Put category as Software>Games and search fate stay night. Should be the torrent with 3 seeds. 3 Discs, the Realta Nua patch, and the Mirror Moon exe.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 3 20:32:25 2019 No.22526838 >>22526814 thanks. I was searching in sukebei nyaa and couldn't find it.

Anonymous Tue Dec 3 21:36:58 2019 No.22527071
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TM Comic Ace is opening their own special site/section on the link below. More details on Compatiq and Young Ace's magazines soon.
https://web-ace.jp/special/tmca/teaser/

They are moving several TM manga to this site. And you can read them for free.
Tsukihime, Melty Blood and Koha-Ace manga for free.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 3 21:40:57 2019 No.22527084 >>22527071 >Tsukihime, Melty Blood and Koha-Ace manga for free. Nice. Hopefully they put up quality scans that can be easily ripped.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 3 22:18:26 2019 No.22527201 >>22527084 >Nice. Hopefully they put up quality scans that can be easily ripped. How are the scanlations of Tsukihime, Melty Blood and Koha-Ace manga?

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 3 22:29:21 2019 No.22527237 >>22527201 It's been ages since I've read them so I don't really remember. Still potential for improvement is always nice.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 3 22:36:25 2019 No.22527268 File: 293 KB, 1500x2133, IMG_4348.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>22527084 >quality scans that can be easily ripped. Well it's web-ace so it should be so

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 3 23:12:09 2019 No.22527389 >Command Seals >Command Spells Let's settle this once and for all.

Anonymous Tue Dec 3 23:26:17 2019 No.22527441

>>22527389
Heaven's Feel day 9, Shirou's internal thought
>公園で燃え尽きた筈の、慎二の[ruby text=コマンドスペル char=2]令呪。
Heaven's Feel day 9, Rider
>シンジ。[ruby text=コマンドスペル char=2]令呪はマスターの身体に現れるもの。私はその身に聖痕を持たないモノを、マスターと認めた事は一度もありません
Heaven's Feel day 9, Rin
>無駄よ慎二。他人に、しかも魔術師でもない人間にサーヴァントを預ける事は不可能に近いわ。それを可能にしていたのが[ruby text=コマンドスペル char=2]令呪による譲渡だった
So "Command Spell" i guess

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 3 23:45:37 2019 No.22527531 >>22527071 just gives me a "you cant access this page" is it region restricted?

Anonymous Tue Dec 3 23:50:46 2019 No.22527559

>>22527441
>>22527268
>day 1-9 (vs Shinji): Rin keeps her distance, but clearly cares for Sakura and will protect her if necessary
>day 9 (post-Sakura reveal)-right before Rin vs Dark Sakura: Rin suddenly becomes an absolute turbo cunt who's ice cold to Sakura and repeatedly undoes Sakura's attempts to get along with her, casually mentioning that she has a crush on Shirou in the same breath as she goads him to betray and kill Sakura for her
>suddenly, when the fight starts: "Look at Rin being badass and beating up that evil bitch Sakura, set to the main theme! Yeah, fuck you and your attempts to stop the fight and beg for pity, Sakura, you're to blame for everything and you're going down! Oh, Rin didn't kill her after all? Wow, she's so kind for changing her mind at the last second and hugging Sakura, clearly everything is Sakura's fault! How COULD she stab her own big sister?"

The writing was schizophrenic as all hell. It's obvious that Nasu wrote an outline where Rin was an antagonist first, then chickened out and made her a dindu at the expense of Sakura. He did the exact same shit with Akiha in the Kohaku route.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 4 00:12:30 2019 No.22527641 >>22524107 I do find it funny that people still give any worldbuilding from KnK and Tsukihime credence since that was blatantly his edgy 'fuck the world' phase. we know his worldview has changed

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 4 00:23:30 2019 No.22527674 >>22527559 Rin is just a complete shithead through and through Does her personality get redeemed in HA?

Anonymous Wed Dec 4 00:33:17 2019 No.22527697

>>22527641
>worldbuilding from KnK and Tsukihime credence since that was blatantly his edgy 'fuck the world' phase.
Might be bait, but I'll bite. His world view changed after he finished writing FSN. As was discussed here before, the original ending to HF was the Normal End, but Nasu changed it to the True End. I'm pretty sure this is where it happened, and its also not a coincidence that everything after this was shit. Mahoyo was sucking the last bit of that juice out of him, and after that it was all shit, generic, and happy garbage.

People give this writing credence because it was where he HAD AN ACTUAL WORLDVIEW. Now that hes living the good life, he's gone sedentary. His worldview is gone, his strong phisolophical standings are gone. Because he has what he wanted now. He's happy. History shows that good writers, and artists in general aren't in a peaceful state of mind. It's not a coincidence that a lot of them kill themselves. When they put that on paper, it feels real, and its that good shit.

And please, stop throwing around the word edgy. It doesn't help your argument, it proves you have no idea what it actually means, and that you can't be above 18 years old.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 4 01:01:54 2019 No.22527760 >>22527641 Why you posted the same text here and at fgog?

Anonymous Wed Dec 4 01:07:13 2019 No.22527775

>>22527697
>People give this writing credence because it was where he HAD AN ACTUAL WORLDVIEW. Now that hes living the good life, he's gone sedentary. His worldview is gone, his strong phisolophical standings are gone. Because he has what he wanted now. He's happy. History shows that good writers, and artists in general aren't in a peaceful state of mind. It's not a coincidence that a lot of them kill themselves. When they put that on paper, it feels real, and its that good shit.
This makes me worried about how Tsukihime Remake will turn out to be.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 4 02:47:41 2019 No.22528106 >>22527389 command seal sounds better.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 4 03:15:56 2019 No.22528187 >>22527559 Christ Sakura, everyone knew Rin was ultimately in the wrong for that route, you don't have to throw a temper tantrum.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 4 04:22:20 2019 No.22528331 File: 48 KB, 466x601, 12E7421A-17D4-4357-88C7-DABF14943BD2.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>22527641 Since you seem to be so knowledgeable on Nasu, pray tell please what was exactly his worldview back then?

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 4 06:29:35 2019 No.22528635 https://twitter.com/tmcomicA/status/1202045131953594369?s=19

>>	tsukirecountdown Wed Dec 4 10:33:21 2019 No.22529449 File: 829 B, 128x82, 20.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I am a just a number; of disappointment.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 4 11:41:37 2019 No.22529687 >>22527775 Let's worry about that when it actually turns out in the first place. >>22528635 Already been posted here anon. It's ultimately not much news. >>22528106 I agree, spell sounds like Magecraft when it should be something different from it.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 4 12:01:46 2019 No.22529774 >>22528187 But Rin's the one with the temper tantrums?

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 4 12:06:22 2019 No.22529792 >>22527674 She gets worse there if anything. She's away for half the game, then comes back as a generic violent tsundere whose scenes are full of potty humor.

Anonymous Wed Dec 4 12:08:58 2019 No.22529802

>>22527697
>As was discussed here before, the original ending to HF was the Normal End, but Nasu changed it to the True End. I'm pretty sure this is where it happened
It was the negative reaction to HF and Sakura that made Nasu get scared of writing dark stories again, according to an interview that came out along with the cinema release of HF2.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 4 12:10:05 2019 No.22529813 So I'm trying to install Fate with the mirror moon patch, but when in starts installing the voices I get a "invalid file" pop up and then an error. Do you guys know what's up? I can play the game just fine, but it's more fun with voices.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 4 12:21:44 2019 No.22529859 >>22529802 >that made Nasu get scared of writing dark stories again But he wrote DDD afterwards.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 4 13:00:16 2019 No.22529982 >>22529802 >It was the negative reaction to HF and Sakura that made Nasu get scared of writing dark stories again What a pussy. The negative reaction is exacly what a proper dark plot writer want.

Anonymous Wed Dec 4 13:14:09 2019 No.22530016

>>22529982
>dresses Sakura in a bland grandma outfit borrowed from Taiga, piles on misleading narration to make the reader believe Sakura is responsible for the shadow, makes a big deal out of her not being a virgin, and shills the fuck out of Rin and Ilya while sidelining Sakura in her own route, which is also the only route she gets any focus in
>WTF WHY ISNT SHE SUPER POPULAR IN POLLS
What the fuck was Nasu thinking? You can't make such a clearly intentionally controversial character, then whine and meme about her popularity as if being a pleb filter is anything to be ashamed of.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 4 13:32:19 2019 No.22530081 >>22529792 god, what a waste. I guess I'll stick to liking better characters.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 4 16:36:42 2019 No.22530717 >>22529449 you are gay, it's more likely itll get announced in april of next year than any other time

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 4 16:43:10 2019 No.22530748 >>22530717 It's 2019, get better insults.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 4 17:34:00 2019 No.22530950 >>22529774 obsessed. just let it go, tree girl

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 4 18:04:23 2019 No.22531109 All Fate heroines suck, get over yourselves.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 4 18:06:27 2019 No.22531118 File: 56 KB, 620x456, you praise a mobile gacha.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>22531109

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 4 18:14:00 2019 No.22531150 File: 230 KB, 488x580, 凛私服01d(近).png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Sakurafags out in full force today.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 4 18:17:32 2019 No.22531166 File: 241 KB, 576x800, Fate.stay.night._.Heaven's.Feel.full.2419092.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Wow, some people are really out here unable to handle Sakura love. How sad!

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 4 18:21:33 2019 No.22531184 >>22531118 You idiot. Fate is dead to me in all forms.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 4 18:24:37 2019 No.22531201 >>22530016 The bland grandma outfit is the best part of Sakura.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 4 18:53:50 2019 No.22531310 >>22529813 Whatever you do, definitely don't read it without voices. There's way too many iconic lines and great VA.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 4 18:57:28 2019 No.22531330 I'm watching Texas Chainsaw Massacre for the first time and it got me thinking: Do you think the main casts of Tsukihime and FSN could survive a typical slasher flick? Without magic, obviously.

Anonymous Wed Dec 4 19:34:07 2019 No.22531467

>>22531184
Then why are you posting in the first place? Posting a backward opinion like that is literally meant to get responses. That's called bait. It's the fucking definition. There's no reason you can't just keep that shit to yourself. You saying that adds nothing to the discussion *except* its clear bait for anyone involved. Self-awareness, please get some.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 4 20:40:50 2019 No.22531775 >>22510585 See, the part that worries me is that I'm almost certain she, or The 5 star Archetype Earth servant, would end up wanting to fuck the MC.

tsukirecountdown Wed Dec 4 20:50:34 2019 No.22531826

>>22530717
Why?
April will be marked by the worst time to actually talk about anything non FGO related
>It will be when last HF movie will be released;
>It will be when the collab will happen, which will be either Prototype or Heavens Feel collab;
I mean, I am not exactly saying I got the exact date or that I am 100% faithfull something will happen on the 25th, but april is like, even worse.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 4 20:54:55 2019 No.22531847 >>22531775 The problem is she wanting to fuck an MC or she wanting to fuck specifically Fujimaru Cardboard-kun? Because you know, she kinda does have something going on with Shiki.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 4 21:00:10 2019 No.22531871 >>22504476 But Arthurian lore Merlin is too prone to make dumb suggestions and is a prankster. He's not Gandalf, bro.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 4 21:16:31 2019 No.22531955 >>22531826 Nasu mentioned something about Golden Week in that interview about playtesting, golden week starts on like 2019 or whatever >>22530748 shut up hettie

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 4 21:17:51 2019 No.22531964 >>22531955 god I'm tired and stupid I didn't mean 2019, I meant the 29th of April

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 4 21:18:50 2019 No.22531967 >>22531955 >hettie ...I was the one telling a person who used "gay" to get better insults yet I'm a hettie? Does that even make sense? Shouldn't I be gay instead?

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 4 21:20:06 2019 No.22531971 >>22531967 nah being is the wave

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 4 21:22:00 2019 No.22531979 >>22531871 He still is not Fate level of autism.

Anonymous Wed Dec 4 21:35:23 2019 No.22532026

>>22531467
>backward opinion
It's the goddamn truth, Fate heroines do not hold a single candle to Nasu's actually good heroines.
I mean of course it is meant to get replies since people will disagree, but this was to interject the more retarded circlejerk.

tsukirecountdown Wed Dec 4 21:41:21 2019 No.22532048

>>22531955
>Nasu mentioned something about Golden Week in that interview about playtesting, golden week starts on like 29th april or whatever
No, the japanese phrase was something like "please expect it on golden week"
There was no kanji that expressed the idea of "the next one" or something specifying which year. What Nasu said is the most apropriate moment we could see Tsukihime in Fate was through a collab, nothing more, nothing less.
I can bring the excerpt where he said it in japanese if you want.

Anonymous Wed Dec 4 21:54:52 2019 No.22532146

>>22532026
>circlejerk
>people hating on Rin and Sakura at the same time
>*circlejerk*
You're either baiting or the most unperceptive person to exist. The latter implies you can't read a single message upwards, so ill take the former. Somehow, I trust you have a single brain cell.

Anonymous Wed Dec 4 22:02:54 2019 No.22532180

>>22532146
You're only proving my point.
It is a waste of time, let it go.
I'm not even intentionally baiting and yet you are taking this as a serious debate.
Let me clarify, People who don't care for one or two exist, as do those who do not care for any.
My view is sincere, I really think that none of them have anything to offer, they are just a descending archetype.
Mt point on saying that they are all trash was supposed to end the x vs y debate by detraction, because it is so goddamn annoying.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 4 23:18:10 2019 No.22532464 File: 141 KB, 308x529, セイバー私服01b(中).png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I love saber and I hold no particular disdain towards any other girls thank you

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 4 23:19:43 2019 No.22532471 I love all heroines because everybody deserves love. My love.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 5 00:16:03 2019 No.22532640 simple character designs > complex character designs

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 5 00:17:32 2019 No.22532647 >>22532640 This is fact.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 5 01:25:37 2019 No.22532845 >>22532640 provide examples

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 5 01:54:29 2019 No.22532914 >>22532845 >>22532464

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 5 01:54:36 2019 No.22532915 File: 156 KB, 1405x2500, 1550495501495.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>22532845

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 5 02:06:47 2019 No.22532948 >>22532914 >>22532915 as opposed to what?

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 5 02:08:23 2019 No.22532957 >>22532464 Her casual design is the only positive I can give.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 5 02:10:52 2019 No.22532967 File: 312 KB, 512x724, 1561171325195.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>22532948

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 5 02:11:05 2019 No.22532969 >>22532948 You haven't seen arc's new design and seiba alter's design?

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 5 02:13:10 2019 No.22532974 >>22532969 those aren't over designed.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 5 03:10:52 2019 No.22533129 Gilgamesh!

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 5 04:41:12 2019 No.22533323 >>22532974 they are by comparison

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 5 06:14:26 2019 No.22533614 >>22532180 You have actually read the vn right?

Anonymous Thu Dec 5 06:40:24 2019 No.22533712
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>>22533614
Not that anon, but I think he just want to express that he personally don't find any Fate heroine that amusing and obviously wouldn't fit his tastes.
By this perspective, he sees no reason for people to go on long debates as to why one girl would be more shit than the other, because in the end you all are talking about things that are on your heart, and not objective, parameter defined, literature archetypical concepts.
I myself agree with him, it is indeed a pain in the ass. You all seem like fgog douchebags trying to prove why his waifu NP5 is better. At least they have the gameplay aspect to use as objective parameter.
Anyway, insted of shitting on things you don't like, focus on worshipping your favorite heroine, please. Don't be the guy who throws stones on a poor dog only because you think it is funny to see it hurt and die.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 5 08:05:36 2019 No.22533966 >>22533712 This is exactly it. Focus on what good we have left, and don't try to make others upset over semantics. Everything else is subjective.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 5 08:34:10 2019 No.22534060 This general has really gone down in quality over the past year.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 5 08:43:28 2019 No.22534084 >>22534060 TM has really gone down in quality over the past year. We are just a reflection of it.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 5 09:07:48 2019 No.22534165 >>22534084 TM has been very consistent in quality since 2013, though.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 5 09:54:53 2019 No.22534354 >>22534165 I think it was better then than now though.

Anonymous Thu Dec 5 09:57:46 2019 No.22534365

>>22533712
>>22533966
This borders on apathy. Why bother post about things I like Especially when someone is probably just going to come by and call me a brainlet for liking it. Conversely, why am I not allowed to talk about things I dislike? Because TM is going down the shitter? And? What's happening with TM is something that matters little to me, because from the start, it failed to give me something I truly wanted.

Anonymous Thu Dec 5 10:07:22 2019 No.22534388

>>22534365
>someone is probably just going to come by and call me a brainlet for liking it.
You are being just another brainlet repeating the behavior. Wanna have less brainlets? Stop being one, maybe we can purge them eventually.
>Conversely, why am I not allowed to talk about things I dislike?
Nobody is trying to hurt free-speech here.
We just wish to preserve the "good air" this place still has for not being a shithole like fgo threads. There is already tons of groups that shit on characters just because of the fun of it, whats is exactly the reason to do it here as well?
If you want to shit this one for no reason and make yet another shithole, no one is stopping you. Just have the pity then to warn me as I don't want to accomodate myself in a yet another shithole of a thread.

Anonymous Thu Dec 5 10:15:46 2019 No.22534404

>>22534388
>You are being just another brainlet repeating the behavior
I said nothing about repeating the behavior.

>There is already tons of groups that shit on characters just because of the fun of it
And honestly why the focus on characters? These threads are already filled with people already whining and bemoaning about the fate of TM. Focusing on the uncommon character discussion-no matter how trite-is so weird.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 5 10:57:29 2019 No.22534544 Babylonia is great and funny. I feel bad for you guys that are refusing to watch it just because it's from a mobage. It's peak Nasu. https://youtu.be/V-DXUvTbv-g

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 5 11:03:31 2019 No.22534573 >>22534544 I am watching and it is shit for a Fate work.

Anonymous Thu Dec 5 11:08:25 2019 No.22534605 [DELETED]

>>22534544
I both play FGO and I am watching the anime.
I don't the gacha thing happening, actually, I believe most here don't give a fuck about TM wanting to gain more money.
What you still have to understand is that we prefer other works. And Nasu is stalling all his other works because of people like you who think it is ok to only have Fate.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 5 11:12:30 2019 No.22534621 >>22534573 How so?

Anonymous Thu Dec 5 11:13:30 2019 No.22534630

>>22534544
I both play FGO and I am watching the anime.
I don't care about the gacha thing happening, actually, I believe most here don't give a fuck about TM wanting to gain more money.
What you still have to understand is that we prefer other works besides Fate. And Nasu is stalling all his other works because of people who think it is ok to only have Fate and that shit of an mobage is his peak.

Anonymous Thu Dec 5 11:19:22 2019 No.22534651

>>22534621
Just compare UBW and Heaven's Feel to it. The story seems like a shounen, the plot is too superficial, the fanservice is freaking too much, why the heck we need to see every grls asses so much?
Fate was more of a serious story, with the seinen air on it. Still have some action, but the dialogues were rich and long. Slice of Life was reduced to a minimum and sexuality was only used if it had anything to do with the story.
FGO is nice for a spin off, like Prisma Illiya is.
The issue is that FGO raises itself to canon without respecting Nasuverse rules every fucking time.
Prisma also doesn't respect Nasuverse rules, but the author said it beforehand that the story is not connected to the main work.
TL;DR: What made me like Fate 13 years ago is not present on Babylonia anime. I have no issues with its existence, only its unnecessary focus.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 5 11:38:47 2019 No.22534736 >>22534651 UBW and HF both felt like shounens, though. >the plot is too superficial Define superficial. >the fanservice is freaking too much As opposed to a porn game?

Anonymous Thu Dec 5 11:57:18 2019 No.22534803

>>22534736
>UBW and HF both felt like shounens, though.
I think you don't know what I mean by shounen. Shounen has the effect to be fun and exciting to the majority of the casual public. Seinen tends to be boring for the majority of the casual public.
Until FGO, the majority of the casual public couldn't care less about Fate.
>Define superficial.
Beyblade level of superficial. Simple story about good and evil where the MC does exactly what the public expects him to do, without any losses and with very happy, kinda child-like.
Deep stories tend to be autistic, which is exactly what Fate VN was.
>As opposed to a porn game?
Why the fuck you people keep repeating this fallacy if you already know the answer?
The porn has almost no sense in the story which lead to a version without it + author already said he didn't want to do it originally, only did to try to grab more sales.
Do you have a version of FGO without the fanservice? Maybe the drama CDs, but those are already very boring of the common public so no one talk about it.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 5 12:01:51 2019 No.22534819 >>22533323 not really

Anonymous Thu Dec 5 12:10:42 2019 No.22534852

I watched some Babylonia scenes on Youtube and honestly self insert-kun is fucking pathetic as a Master. People keep defending him by saying he's supposed to be bland, otherwise so many Heroic Spirits wouldn't help him save the world, but goddamn. Both him and Mashu are pathetic.

I would much rather watch seven episodes of the Crypters in their Lostbelts than watch Ritsuka and Mashu be useless and bland but somehow still manage to sway these cookie-cutter, barely thought out servants to their side.

Anonymous Thu Dec 5 12:21:46 2019 No.22534889

>>22534736
>Define superficial.
The protagonist not having any involvement whatsoever? Everyone else not questioning how Fou was able to break Ana out of the Chains of Heaven, how Merlin knows Fou, how Fou has so much magical energy inside of him, which are blatant plotholes ignored in favor of... a reveal that causes the Mash to get revived (effectively making any sadness toward her inevitable death worthless).

Or how Tiamat is just the most generic, downright retarded world-end villain ever? How Gorgon appears to save the protagonist for no reason whatsoever to add "tension" to the story? How literally none of this is explained? How Kingu is seen as a redeemable character even though he single-handedly propelled the singularity to its demise?

>UBW and HF both felt like shounens, though.
Proof you haven't read either.
>As opposed to a porn game?
Which was cut out in the latter, much better edition of the game. Now FGO... Has one of its main character have the most impractical armor to ever exist, effectively accentuating her boobs, exposing her thighs and entire legs in favor of your shitty players cumming. The other character designs are self-explanatory, including Raikou, Musashi, and literally every fan-service character from Beach singularities. You're downright delusional. And, also, whataboutism. Its a fallacy.

Anonymous Thu Dec 5 12:25:26 2019 No.22534905
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>>22534889
>Has one of its main character have the most impractical armor to ever exist, effectively accentuating her boobs, exposing her thighs and entire legs in favor of your shitty players cumming
I also hate Rider.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 5 12:26:06 2019 No.22534908 File: 25 KB, 208x300, 37.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I'm glad we can all agree that fanservice designs are bad.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 5 12:31:00 2019 No.22534931 >>22534544 Ishtar is such garbage man. She and all other characters in Babylonia. I don't know how you can defend this shit.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 5 12:44:11 2019 No.22534989 >>22534630 the only thing he's stalling is the Tsukihime remake. otherwise it's pumping out more Fate, and getting ready for retirement.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 5 12:45:08 2019 No.22534993 >>22534905 Although that clothing is shitty, greek actually wore much less than that.

Anonymous Thu Dec 5 12:47:31 2019 No.22534998

>>22534989
No, he is making TsukiR following the time said it would take, he didnt say to the next 10 yeara because it would be fast.
What was stalled is on going works like mahoyo, DDD, Fire Girl, etc.
FGO even stalled unrelated works from authors like Narita.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 5 12:50:54 2019 No.22535011 File: 1.58 MB, 1060x1500, 242197991213e32f3cdc8fa309bd373e.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >every post I've read so far in this thread cd\internet dir/w del internet.exe cd\ rd internet

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 5 12:55:59 2019 No.22535026 >>22534905 >>22534993 Full stop, the only good design Rider has is her Gorgon one. Her leather bdsm shit is ass, and her loli version is all over the place. At least her Gorgon one makes sense.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 5 12:57:39 2019 No.22535035 >>22535026 What about casual Rider?

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 5 13:03:12 2019 No.22535052 >>22534998 >Fire Girl It has ended. The other lost works are Girls' Work and Starlit Marmalade 3.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 5 13:03:44 2019 No.22535057 >>22535026 Wy the fuck you quote me if I said it was shitty.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 5 13:06:38 2019 No.22535075 >>22535052 >ended Even Fate has "ended", anon. Nasu will extend whatever if he wants, doesnt matter how well finished is it.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 5 13:23:49 2019 No.22535165 >>22535035 Casual Rider is okay. But I'm talking more about the design we see her in for most of the game. >>22535057 Cause I'm agreeing with you.

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>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 5 13:54:44 2019 No.22535303 >>22534908 I'm glad we can all agree that you are a flaming homosexual.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 5 14:01:01 2019 No.22535330 >>22534931 Ishtar is great, though. She's a lot of fun.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 5 14:08:24 2019 No.22535361 >>22534908 > fanservice design your average female highschooler wears half of that

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 5 14:09:49 2019 No.22535368 >>22535268 cute

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 5 14:10:21 2019 No.22535373 >>22535361 Thats actually true, even more for tropical countries.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 5 14:42:19 2019 No.22535482 >Which was cut out in the latter, much better edition of the game Debatable, I dislike how Realta Nua censors some descriptions. A definitive version of FSN doesn't exist.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 5 14:59:49 2019 No.22535533 >>22535482 The point here is only to differentiate current Fate with old Fate. Before sex fanservicing was an extra. Now it is a feature.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 5 15:34:09 2019 No.22535666 >>22533712 I have no problem with that, but it seems like most of the people who dislike the fate heroins have never read the vn and only know them from the mountain of shitty adaptations

Anonymous Thu Dec 5 15:42:10 2019 No.22535719

>>22534908
Saying Rin's design is fanservice is getting into Religious Christian "don't show any skin" BS territory. As someone said, the average high schooler indeed wears much less than that. And as someone who lives in a tropical country and has lived in one that isn't, tropical countries wear much less clothing than that.

>>22534905
>impractical armor
I don't hate Rider, just a tad dislike, but her design is accentuated to her strengths. Its sleek, allows for movement without noise and isn't trying to block or defend anything. You wouldn't expect an Assassin class to wear actual armor, because it doesn't make sense. Since Rider takes on an "Assassin-esc" role for a lot of it, it makes sense. Regardless though, you wouldn't want actual armor while messing with chains. Slower movement and the armor can easily get tangled within them.

While Mash is literally supposed to be a tank with a humongous shield, and yet her own armor is defined fanservice. It barely covers her and her chest area is not how armor should be (for example, Stage 1 of Lartoria, you don't know how big her boobs are until the chestplate is gone). Thighs uncovered, allowing for easily hittable spots throughout her "armor".

>>22534993
And this is indeed correct.

>>22535533
Exactly. F/HA made it a point to keep Eclipse as an extra thing outside of the main stuff, even if we did get some lewd stuff throughout the story (although to be fair it is justified in Caren's character).

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 5 16:11:41 2019 No.22535808 >>22535719 Talking bout ports, how does the Vita port of HA compares to the original version. Do they change some of Caren's lines?.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 5 17:02:52 2019 No.22535987 >>22535719 >the armor can easily get tangled within them unlike her hair, of course

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 5 17:32:33 2019 No.22536077 >>22535987 Which if you had any semblance of memory, it is long that way because her true name is Medusa. I'll let you deduce that one on your own.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 5 17:33:40 2019 No.22536082 >>22534544 You can stop baiting.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 5 17:35:02 2019 No.22536089 >>22534736 >muh eroge Nu-Fate babby bait #1, bait harder.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 5 17:37:29 2019 No.22536097 >>22536077 that doesn't change the fact that it would easily get in the way during combat, especially when it's completely loose.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 5 17:37:39 2019 No.22536098 >>22535011 I'd keep outta here if I were you.

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Anonymous Thu Dec 5 17:50:58 2019 No.22536160

>>22536097
That's part of her legend. She had snakes in the original legend for hair, but Nasu didn't want her to have that ability so he substituted it for long hair, which makes sense. Lots of portrayals show Medusa having long hair that then turns into snakes. This isn't really a point you can make against her design is what I'm saying. Plus, she is a servant. I don't think the throne of heroes would give a downright detrimental aesthetic choice that hinders her combat abilities when that's her purpose in the HGW (inb4 you show me a servant from any other spin-off that has such a thing).

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 5 18:02:29 2019 No.22536201 >>22536160 it just doesn't make sense to critique one part of her design as a result of practicality, but then ignore another part that would have the same problems the first part was said to have avoided

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 5 18:07:36 2019 No.22536216 >>22536201 Medusa's hair retain snake-like properties as they can move on their own (HA's bath scene). They probably can't get in the way.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 5 18:13:50 2019 No.22536245 >>22536216 that begs the question why they are never utilized in combat (in fact, that would be a neat attribute for her) and I could have sworn HA said they were usually dormant, but I'd have to read it again.

Anonymous Thu Dec 5 18:16:04 2019 No.22536251

>>22536201
Because one is directly part of her legend, her identifiability as Medusa, while her suit/armor is clearly not. It's one thing to critique her overall clothes/suit/armor because they aren't closely/loosely tied to her legend. If I'm not wrong, Medusa never had explicit clothing in her legend. The parts everyone knew where her hair, her eyes, and the snakes (which are her hair). It's stupid to judge its practicality when it's designer probably had to include such a thing because it's based off of the legend. It's like criticizing Artoria for having Excalibur.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 5 18:22:51 2019 No.22536281 >>22536251 Artoria hides Excalibur so most people won't immediately be able to figure out who she is, so even that is modified to be more practical to solve the only conceivable problem it would have.

Anonymous Thu Dec 5 18:29:41 2019 No.22536303

>>22536281
Actually, I agree. And Nasu/Takeuchi probably noticed that too and fixed it in post on F/HA as stated before.

>>22536245
And piggybacking off that, Its snakelike properties are small and not practical to use in combat. Consider them as small cute snake strands of hair that can move on their own.

Anonymous Thu Dec 5 19:58:48 2019 No.22536697

>>22534998
Moron. Nasu made numerous statements on Tsuki:R's intended release date, the first of which was the assertion that it would be out shortly after Mahoyo's release, which, at the time, was aimed at Spring of 2009; most fans followed that Tsuki:R would likely be a 2011 or 2012 release (during this time Mahoyo's sequels were also announced). Mahoyo received some overhauls, though, and it delayed the project. Nasu finished the script sometime in 2010 or early 2011 but Koyama's artistic efforts delayed it again. At the time it was still expected for the Remake to be out within the next few years; Arc's cameo in Extra (2011) was an obvious nod to long time fans who were still waiting on the remake. Then came the 10th anniversary, and shortly after that, the remake designs. "To the next 10 years" never meant "I will release it in 10 years," nor was it ever interpreted as such by the Japanese, interviewers, or even most of the Western audience -- that is until retrospect and coping kicked in. Nasu never echoed such a sentiment in any interview; within the context of that statement it simply meant, "hey, our 10th anniversary just cleared. Let's make the next 10 years a good one." It was not a release date statement.

Nasu simply tossed Tsukihime aside like a used tissue because he prioritized the gacha audience over the Remake; Tsuki:R was very obviously slated to be released sometime in either 2016-2017, they started dumping information, CG previews, and new characters on us in 2014-2016, and then, after that, FGO obviously took priority and information on Tsuki:R went dark; with only a sloppily drawn pity piece of Arc being made the following year. And what does Nasu have to say about finishing Tsuki:R? That he wants to get it out just so he can whore out Arcueid in FGO. It's clear where his priorities went. Stop coping and thinking it was apart of his plan all along to draw out the release for 10 years. The man chose the mainstream and money over his artistic integrity and cucked his original fanbase. I know people who literally died waiting for the Remake, from all the way back in 2008 when it was announced. Fuck Nasu and fuck TM. I hope they get Kyoani'd.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 5 20:07:44 2019 No.22536734 >>22536697 will she be a Zerker like last time?

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 5 20:25:57 2019 No.22536779 >>22536734 I hope she's a berserker and I hope she's mute or only says retarded shit for all stages

Anonymous Thu Dec 5 20:53:19 2019 No.22536881

>>22536697
>I hope they get Kyoani'd.
Delightworks runs the game. Let's make sure the retarded fanatics are going in the right direction. Doing that to TM would just solidify our chances to get nothing and make sure no franchise ever continues. It would also burn the Tsuki:R script, so no thanks.

Burn Delightworks please.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 5 20:59:01 2019 No.22536906 >>22536697 >the first of which was the assertion that it would be out shortly after Mahoyo's Do you have the source on it?

Anonymous Thu Dec 5 21:06:56 2019 No.22536934

>>22536697
>Let's make the next 10 years a good one
Failed miserably.
>I know people who literally died waiting for the Remake
Don't know if you meant that literally, but I had a heavy depression the last years that was indirectly related to me seeing Nasu constantly shitting on his past in interviews.
>Nasu finished the script sometime in 2010 or early 2011 but Koyama's artistic efforts delayed it again
Wait, wasn't production of FGO around that time?
Also, what do you think of the latest statement about tsukire and the testplaying?
Nasu talking in that interview game me the impression that he was so much uninterested in Tsukihime, like he hated it.

Anonymous Thu Dec 5 21:27:40 2019 No.22536989

Frankly, I am getting depressed again.
I wouldn't mind this situation if Nasu had been simply honest and say "fuck TsukiR, I don't want to work anymore bye"
I think I will try to find any other company doing VNs.
Heard Light, who developed Dies Irae, has pretty much one VN a year being released, with one to be released already next year,
Probably will try to make a light general thread later.
Tired of this TM company already, bye.

Anonymous Thu Dec 5 21:36:39 2019 No.22537026

>>22536881
Sure. Burn them. Just burn anyone, really. I need some burning.
>>22536906
Ugh, I tried looking around again, but I really can't find it. I'm certain it exists out there somewhere, it might have been a 4gamer interview, but I'm not sure. The /jp/ archives do talk about it around 2009, but that's not really much of a source.

https://www.4gamer.net/games/115/G011514/20120511075/ I found this one at least where they mention they're working on it at the same time as CCC, so at least there's that. It can be pretty hard finding stuff pre-2010 for TM.

Anonymous Thu Dec 5 21:37:51 2019 No.22537030
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Also, does anyone have this image? I think it was a "preview" of what the remake was going to look like back in 2009. Takeuchi redrew some of the sprites. This was before they decided to overhaul the designs 3 years later. I can only find a thumbnail of this image but maybe some super oldfag still has it lying around.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 5 21:38:25 2019 No.22537033 >>22537026 Well, take your time then. As soon as you find just post it here, I'll be observing the thread anyway.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 5 21:43:19 2019 No.22537050 >>22534651 >the fanservice is freaking too much That plus the action scenes are literally the only good things about it. I wouldn't even watch this shit if Ishtar's legs weren't on screen all the time.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 5 21:45:19 2019 No.22537057 >>22537050 If you want coombrain action, there is much better out there. If you want literal action, there is much better out there. It's plain garbage that only appeals to those who like the plainly garbage source.

Anonymous Thu Dec 5 21:49:31 2019 No.22537073

>>22537057
Not many anime girls are as hot as Ishtar so your first point is automatically wrong. In terms of animation, the show is pretty well above average which I can appreciate. The plot and characters certainly suck, yes, but overall the show is pretty much a 6-7/10 for enjoyment for me. It doesn't hurt taking 20 minutes out of my Saturdays to watch a new episode.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 5 22:24:35 2019 No.22537201 >>22537073 Eh, I only like her in fanart. Something about the anime's weird plastic style really puts me off.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 5 23:38:04 2019 No.22537480 >>22537073 Ishtar is riding off her outfit alone, otherwise she is darker haired Rin with red eyes. Misaya already does that better. Also in terms of Ishtar, I preferred her heel outfit. I think anything past that is getting too subjective.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 5 23:41:06 2019 No.22537492 >>22537480 And yeah >>22537201 in the anime she looks odd due to Takeuchi ruining everything. Morii is certainly a top 5 TM artist.

Anonymous Fri Dec 6 00:04:00 2019 No.22537565

>>22537073
>In terms of animation, the show is pretty well above average
It's not. It's directionless spectacle almost 100% of the time. It's made to deceive the populace into thinking it has good animation, but on subsequent rewatches you start to notice how badly choreographed it really is, and the bits of animation are out of place or just completely unnecessary. Ana vs Enkidu in the forest is pinnacle example of this, a huge misuse of space to make the forest seem endless, copy and paste 3D background (especially the trees) on top of animation from both characters without direction or purpose.

The CGI is also fucking ass. Tiamat is a huge bruh moment.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 6 00:07:00 2019 No.22537569 When is the next release date of spring song info?

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 6 01:35:52 2019 No.22537782 People are too easily pleased. Show that some accountability is needed, otherwise nothing ever changes.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 6 01:40:25 2019 No.22537788 >>22537782 Vague statement, but definitely not the place to say that. We are the minority who try, but we are too small to do anything.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 6 02:24:10 2019 No.22537891 >>22537788 It was a statement about the majority, of course we few can do nothing. But we can at least keep this place rational.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 6 04:43:29 2019 No.22538232 File: 239 KB, 618x1300, U5Q0o.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>22537030

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 6 04:48:46 2019 No.22538244 >>22538232 Neat.

Anonymous Fri Dec 6 16:10:30 2019 No.22540489

>>22536934
>Also, what do you think of the latest statement about tsukire and the testplaying?
Not that guy, but the testplaying thing sounds stupid. It may just be me being a retard, but how does a VN need play testing? I could play test an entire VN in a day just by clicking through it and making sure all the choices/buttons work.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 6 16:20:52 2019 No.22540516 >>22540489 If it weren't for playtesting, we wouldn't have had a Kohaku route.

Anonymous Fri Dec 6 16:48:06 2019 No.22540639

>>22540489
No obvious game crashing bugs, all the animation sequences are working correctly, and generally to see if people enjoy the game. Every game needs play testing, in this case though its more like getting second opinions on your writing to see if you should try getting it published or not.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 6 17:22:36 2019 No.22540763 >>22536934 >what do you think of the latest statement about tsukire and the testplaying? Post the source.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 6 18:23:42 2019 No.22541023 >>22540763 https://www.famitsu.com/news/201910/05182695.html?page=3 ――本職というと、リメイク版『月姫』にも期待したいところです。奈須いま少しだけテストプレイをしているけど、おっさんゲーマーほど超楽しいと思うよ。

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>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 6 19:47:05 2019 No.22541429 >>22541023 The release is around the corner? And he just offhandedly mentioned it in an FGO interview? Weird.

Anonymous Fri Dec 6 19:52:49 2019 No.22541469 [DELETED]

>>22541429
Not offhandedly, the interview asked about Sion first, which lead to Tsukihime characters being relevant or not in FGO to then the question about the remake out of the blue, let's say.
Nasu also said below that "the game is something older man will like" which make people conclude it will be 18+.
Frankly, wouldn't hold my horses though. Don't we get anything until the end of FGO, assuming it wiill.

Anonymous Fri Dec 6 19:54:15 2019 No.22541480

>>22541429
Not offhandedly, the interview asked about Sion first, which lead to Tsukihime characters being relevant or not in FGO to then the question about the remake out of the blue, let's say.
Nasu also said below that "the game is something older man will like" which make people conclude it will be 18+.
Frankly, wouldn't hold my horses though. Don't think we get anything until the end of FGO, assuming it wiill end.

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