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>Japan's debt burden, which is already the largest of the world's big economies, will reach a sumo-sized 225% of GDP in 2010. Rich countries' debt is set to grow from 83.3% of GDP in 2008 to almost 100% in 2010.

>The fact that Japan has the highest debt load of any G20 nation while also being one of the nations that the U.S. is most indebted to is quite interesting, for the simple fact that it's probably not a good thing when the #1 debtor nation is owed a lot of money by the #3 debtor nation.

>> No.2218098

>>2218084
>/jp/ - Economics/General
Reported.

>> No.2218109

>>2218098
Reported.

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>>2218098
>reported

>> No.2218116

Holy shit, russia looks like will be the best country in the end of this shit.

>> No.2218122

>>2218109
>>2218111
Oops, sorry bros. I forgot how much drama that word causes nowadays.

>> No.2218127

>>2218122
Reported.

>> No.2218130

This is nothing but a load of shit. You can skew the statistics and ignore things like savings to make it look like Japan is the most indebted nation, but in real terms, the United States is BY FAR the most indebted country in the world.

>> No.2218134

>>2218116
Ethnic Russians will be bred out of existence shortly. Their economy is a hedge bet that will fail, in the end. Oil won't save it and there's nothing else for them to fall back on, since their industry isn't doing well.

The whole world is in the shitter, so it's not really Russia's fault, entirely; though, it certainly can be blamed in part on the fact that their government is basically a mafia power.

>> No.2218138

>>2218130
No it isn't. Japan has had a 10++ year long recession, where do you think they got the money to keep them from collapsing?

>> No.2218139

>>2218130
denying that japan is in serious debt will not get you laid by japanese chicks

>> No.2218144

>>2218130
>savings
savings are poisonous to any economy

constant saving is one of Japan's biggest problems.

>> No.2218148

Posting in epic troll thread

>> No.2218156

>>2218144
But spending your bonus as soon as you get it might not be that smart.

>> No.2218160

This thread proves that all trolls in /jp/ are kikes.

>> No.2218163

>>2218144
>savings are poisonous to any economy

What.

I suppose you think banks don't do anything with the money that people put in them, right? There's a difference between putting money in a bank to save it and stuffing it under your mattress.

>> No.2218166

The board is "Japan/General" faggots, not "Touhou/VN"

>> No.2218168

>>2218163
The problem is when there is too much saving going on and not enough spending. You need spending to go on for what you are getting at to even work. Also, large amounts of saving going on is a dangerous thing as the banks NEVER have anywhere close to that much cash around.

>> No.2218174

>>2218166
We're not the US government, kikes like you should be ignored

>> No.2218184

>>2218163
Please learn2economics. Japan is not the USA.

Saving without spending doesn't yield shit. Japan's market is insular.

Also this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japan_Post + http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japan_Post_Group

>> No.2218185

>>2218144
Bullshit you debt ridden mammon's ass licking faggot. Don't spin around the situation with your propaganda you son of a banker.

>> No.2218186

>>2218163
Not the person you're responding to but two things:
1. They did stuff it under their mattress because Japanese banks had a crisis almost exactly the same as the US is experiencing now. They even had safes in convenience stores. They trusted the 7/11 more than the First Bank of Japan.
2. People have to be spending and working in an expanding economy for savings to be reinvested locally. That wasn't happening. Those savings were being invested overseas, in America. So yes, all of their saving and strict frugality slowed their economy down tremendously. Slow economy with minimal consumer spending and a constant cash flow out of the country = recipe for disaster.

>> No.2218188

>>2218174

>In modern English language, the word kike (IPA: /ˈkаɪk/) is a pejorative ethnic slur referring to a Jew.

HURR INSTEAD OF CALLING HIM A ZIONIST, LET'S CALL HIM A WORD BARELY ANYBODY USES SO THAT I LOOK SMART DURR XD

Reported.

>> No.2218194

Reported for old /n/

>> No.2218195

There is quite a difference between being in a Surplus + Debt, and Deficit + Debt. One is good while the other is bad. Learn2Economics.

Thread Reported.

>> No.2218196

>>2218163
Would only make sense if Japan's institutions were international, and they're not. No spending means no capital, so how are you going to generate money with people's savings?

short answer: you're not. It's just shitloads of privately owned money that nobody can do anything with.

>> No.2218203

I REPORTED YOU'RE THREAD

>> No.2218206

>>2218163

>There's a difference between putting money in a bank to save it and stuffing it under your mattress.

There's nothing wrong with stuffing it under your mattress.

>> No.2218212

In Japan, the debt is in debt to a Japanese citizen.
Japan is not in debt to the foreign country.

>> No.2218213

Deported.

>> No.2218218

>>2218212

Nara of Japan, etc.

>> No.2218221

>>2218168
Dude, it's not the little man's savings that is hurting any economy but the big time capitalist's criminaly acclaimed money he doesn't want to let into the economy.
YOU MUST BE A SUPER MORON critisizing people that don't want to die or to ruin their existence because the monetarians doesn't want to change the monetary order.
SO YOU BETTER SPEND YOUR MONEY FOR SHIT YOU DON'T NEED TO, BECAUSE PROPAGANDA INFECTED ANONIGGERASS SAID IT HELP THE ECONOMY.

>> No.2218229

"thread reported" is ruining /jp/

>> No.2218231

>>2218229

Off-topic threads are part of what's killing /jp/.

>> No.2218233

>>2218196
Debt isn't a bad thing like the media makes it to be you morons. Japan's debt is owed to it's people rather than to foreign nations. On top of that, as long as the nation is generating surplus revenues in the overall production equation (which Japan is) there isn't anything to necessarily worry about.

>> No.2218234

>>2218221
>PROPAGANDA INFECTED ANONKIKEASS
Fixed for factual accuracy.

>> No.2218235

>>2218231
>off-topic
>all things Japanese welcome
wut

>> No.2218243

>>2218231
it's not off-topic

if you don't want it, click the hide thread button

mods need to start banning for abusing the report system

>> No.2218248

>>2218231
>Japan/General

As stated before, this isn't the Touhou/Visual Novel board you stupid retarded hikki.

I'm tempting to start making tons of Japan-related topics now just to piss people like you off.

>> No.2218249

JAY-PAN

>> No.2218250

>>2218233
>which Japan is
japan's GDP is plummeting

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>>2218235

>all things Japanese welcome

What a cruel joke.

>> No.2218256

>>2218250
The whole worlds overall GDP and GNP is falling you fucking idiot. It's called market correction, regardless as to how far it falls.

>> No.2218257

>>2218254

When will you otaku learn, this place isn't just for your lolis. If I want to have a 200 thread about Japan, I'm going to have a 200 thread about Japan, and there's not a single thing you dumb hicks can do about it since it is not off-topic.

Reported.

>> No.2218258

>>2218248
Good, the last faggot who did that got a permaban so can't wait to see you gone for good.

>> No.2218263

>>2218258

If somebody's too stupid to bypass a permab&, they deserve to be permab&.

>> No.2218264

>>2218248

>this isn't the Touhou/Visual Novel board

But that's exactly what it is. Plus idols, unfortunately.

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SHUT UP YOU FAGS, STOP GIVING THE OP WHAT HE WANTS

HIJACK ALL TOPICS LIKE THESE WITH CIRNO

>> No.2218269

>Plus idols, unfortunately.
actually the touhoufags did their best to drive away the wotas in the early days

but the wotas did not give up

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>>2218265

Okay

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>>2218265
CHINA IS BETTER THAN CIRNO

>> No.2218279

>>2218263
Oh yeah, he also got banned for bypassing 7 other permabans. Probably will happen again, judging how he is the OP and all.

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>>2218278

Yeah, but Sanae is naked

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>> No.2218297

Damn /jp/ sucks these days; if you want to have any discussion that isn't touhou/vn/kigurumi/other otaku bullshit that is related to the topic of the board (JAPAN!), all the otaku fucks spam/report/sage it out of existence. It's a sad state of affairs when /jp/ became more weaboo than /a/...

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>> No.2218311

Meh. Debt as a percentage of GDP is only a mildly interesting statistic, as GDP fluctuates pretty regularly. A more interesting stat would be total amount of external debt.

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>>2218297

>when /jp/ became more weaboo than /a/...

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>> No.2218317

>>2218278

I always imagine she's bouncing on Sakuya's cock in this image.

>> No.2218318

>>2218297

You don't understand. /jp/ was created so that we could finally have a Touhou homeland. Years of wandering /v/ and /a/, heavy persecution wherever we went ... I wish I could forget.

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How is this thread not related?
Spice and wolf is Japanese.
Spice and wolf is about economics.
All you have to do is post a little bit of Horo and this thread will be perfectly acceptable. And before you go off telling me that anime is not welcom on /jp/, theres a spice and wolf visual novel on the ds. So nah.

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>> No.2218343

>>2218318

No, no it wasn't. It just happened to be a board where you didn't get sagebombed to page 10, and therefore you decided that it was perfectly fine to make 50 fucking topics about various touhou characters that all said the exact same thing.

It's kinda no wonder /v/ chased you out.

>> No.2218344

>>2218318
No brother, we must not forget.

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>> No.2218357

>>2218335
Go back to /g/.

>> No.2218358

>>2218335

Spice and Wolf is /a/. Go away.

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>> No.2218373

You know, I visited /g/ for the first time the other day and it's actually really funny. half of the threads are filled with loli pictures while they vaguely talk about computers or whatever.

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>> No.2218381

>>2218373

/g/ - technology. which translates into OS wars, rate my build, desktop threads, and lolis.

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>> No.2218388

>>2218343
Sure is angry old /n/ rejects that still want to claim this shithole as theirs around here.

>> No.2218389

>>2218311
Not sure if I'm right but I believe the US have over 450% debt in total.
So the guy from before is saying the japs should make more debt to "help the economy" and become the second empire of debt like the US.

The japs aren't saving (wich doesn't mean they are hiding the money from the economy) because they are funny guys, there isn't enough money in the economy to spent it.

>> No.2218390

>>2218373
/g/ is the best board on 4chan and has been for a while

/tv/ can be tolerable

/jp/ is pretty good sometimes, when there are threads that aren't about touhou or type-moon

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>> No.2218395

This could have been a good thread.
I fucking hate you guys.
At least i have more cirno now i guess.

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>> No.2218399

>>2218390
>when there are threads that aren't about touhou or type-moon
We have those?

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>> No.2218407

2hu is what is killing /jp/, always was, always be

>> No.2218412

this is not touhous or type-moon powerlevels thread.

reported

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>> No.2218415

>>2218399
yes

while you're at school

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>> No.2218433

>>2218388

/n/ rejects still try to claim /n/ as theirs. Or have migrated to /g/. I'm one of the few who remember the first couple months of /jp/, y'know, before the touhou fags decided it was all touhou all the time.

Japanese news is related to /jp/. Japanese culture is related to /jp/. Japanese style is related to /jp/. Japanese media is related to /jp/ (with the exception of anime, because there's already a board for that). So yes, touhou is related to /jp/. But not at the expense of everything else that is also related to /jp/.

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>> No.2218447

>>2218433
/jp/ was always about touhou/vns/etc. Moot explicitly created it as a dumping ground for the non-anime related stuff that was getting posted in /a/.

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>> No.2218454

>>2218373

Also, somebody will randomly start a Strike Witches or whatever image dump thread, and no one even cares or says anything. They just join in too and are like "YEAHH WOOO STRIKE WITCHES THREAD"

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>> No.2218461

How might I, a thin man of 120 pounds, have wet sloppy sex with the sumo wrestlers in OP?

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>> No.2218467

>>2218433
I agree that we can't let touhou dominate the topics in /jp/, but it currently doesn't.
It's Reitaisai time and there are more threads than usual, that's all. We are still japan culture and VNs oriented.

Now, the reason this thread is getting attacked is because it brings nothing but shitstorms to the board. It's bringing what made /n/ so unbearable into our last holy ground, and we simply can't allow that.
I'm afraid you're in otaku-culture-oriented country. Kindly leave for a more traditional forum if you wish to indulge in internet fights over politics, economy and religion. Heaven knows we don't have enough of those online.

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>> No.2218481

>>2218461
You'll die trying, brosef.

>> No.2218482

>>2218447

Moot created it with a bunch of other testing boards to fill niches that users kept spamming up other unrelated boards with. However, he also said the boards would go away if they became too niche and therefore useless. /jp/ was created to give a spot for non-anime Japan-related stuff that was getting posted often in /a/, however he widened the scope to general Japanese threads so that it wouldn't be useless.

And it worked! For about three months. Then the touhou/vn fags started spamming everything that wasn't otaku niche out of existence.

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>> No.2218492

>>2218481
So long as I'm on top I should be safe, my biggest question would be, would they go for that? Such a skinny guy I mean? Or are sumo guys only interested in fat guys like themselves?

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How does this make you Cirno-lovers feel?

>> No.2218525

>>2218447
>/jp/ was always about touhou/vns/etc
That's just what most threads are about.
Moot never ever even suggested that those are the only things allowed here. Which is why the rules are the way they are.
Thus this thread is perfectly /jp/ related.

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>> No.2218529

>>2218467

This is 4chan. No matter what board you are on, trolls will attempt to troll. Ignore them and discuss the matter at hand with logic, reason, and full sentences and you will go far.

There's a difference between otaku and weaboo. Weaboos see Japan through rose-colored glasses and plug their ears yelling "Na na na I can't hear you!" whenever you mention the negatives sides of Japanese culture. Otaku recognize the negatives and still love their Japanese media.

This particular topic isn't the most interesting topic for reasons I've stated in response to the topic at hand before. But just because it paints Japan in a negative light does not mean it should be spammed to oblivion (which really is the equivalent of the "Na na na I can't hear you!"...)

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>> No.2218531

>>2218499
I don't get the whole Cirno/China images.

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>> No.2218538

>>2218482
Except that those old threads were actually about Japanese interesting stuff and not old /n/ metatrolling like this one.
Congratulations, you're willing to defend shit content in order to fight shit content. You might consider drinking a bottle of bleach to celebrate.

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>> No.2218541

>>2218531
Neighbors Stage 2 and Stage 3 respectively

>> No.2218543

>>2218531

Stage 2 boss of EoSD and Stage 3 boss of EoSD.

Also they're both regarded as idiots in the fandom.

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>> No.2218545

>>2218531

1) Dumb people like dumb company

2) Cirno's home is at the lake surrounding the SDM

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>>2218523
Not cool, man. Not cool.

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>>2218569
>not cool

I c wat u did thar

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>> No.2218598

>>2218546
Is that Kaguya?

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>>2218531
Picture related

>>2218529
I think you're misunderstanding. This is not about "Japan is doing badly, sage away!", it's about...
Hell, I don't know anymore. To avoid these sort of posts?
>>2218160
>>2218163
>>2218168
>>2218184
>>2218185
>>2218188
This is just a way the board culture sustains itself by rejecting certain topics. It's what makes us great, in a way.
I like some topics that certainly don't get as much attention than VN or touhou discussion, but they don't devolve into /n/ type shitstorms that go nowhere fast. Hence, it's not the fact that it isn't otaku-culture related, but that it is a picky topic that outspoken members of the board would rather ignore.

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>>2218265

>> No.2220846

>>2218538
Why is this "meta-trolling?" I wanted to have an actual discussion on Japan's economic failures. So shut the fuck up you stupid homo and get back to your "LOL Nagisa sure is moe and tsundere waifu but not kawaii because only weaboos say kawaii ^_^"

>> No.2220861

South Korea is default soon.

>> No.2220917

>>2218523
Mostly I wonder why 瞬殺 was written with a 日 radical.

>> No.2220972

Fuck touhou, half of you faggots don't even play the games but rather, circle jerk over little girls with stupid hats. Not only that, you decide upon yourself to police this board to be nothing but inane childish nonsense, like the worthless manchildren you are.

Pathetic.
Sincerely, someone who actually plays shmups instead of being a half-assed double-digit iq /jp/edo.

>> No.2220991

>>2220972
You're thinking of the Touhou fan population at large. Here on /jp/, it's pretty obvious most of the touhoufags play the games from the success of threads for talking about and playing the actual games.

>> No.2220994

>>2220991

Sure thing boss. That's why there's 10 topics about how CIRNO IS BAKA LOL XD for every one about actual gameplay.

>> No.2221023

>>2220972
Way to resort to ad hominem.
It's true, most of the userbase is composed of people who can't even handle easy mode. But in this board, we sadly make up for most of the topics. Only a few of those are about the games proper, so there's no sense in attacking the gameplay element of the game series.

I honestly don't see your point. That liking the fictional world populated with nothing but young girls in frilly dresses is immature? Nevermind that, it's a conversation I'd rather not have in here, since its bound to be unproductive and end up with loud words being posted by each side.

sage in the hopes that this thread is peacefully ignored. I don't expect you to answer, since I pretty much agree with parts of what you say, but disagree of the way you word it. That is all.

>> No.2221418

>>2218607
I'm going to need a link for this because /rs/ can't search for the same fucking word more than once

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