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Did ZUN blatantly rip himselff off?
The stage 3 theme in Ten Desires has the exact same melody as Star Sapphire's theme from Eastern and Little Nature Deity, released 4 (!!!) years before TD.

Here, just listen:
TD stage 3: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HJKe27FvBe4
Star Sapphire: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LHDW1kiQAaE

Did ZUN really think he could get away with it?

>> No.22137005

Yeah ZUN reuses melodies all the time. He's been doing that since PC-98. Not anything new. Understandably, it's only gonna be more frequent from now on since he has compised 200+ pieces of music at this point.

>> No.22137353

>>22136900
It's called an arrangement. Alice's theme is used in a stage completely unrelated to her in Impossible Spell Card IIRC.

>> No.22137402

Guys, what the fuck, Bamboo Forest of the Full Moon reuses the title theme... is ZUN a hackfraud? Leitmotifs are used all the time in music and ZUN does it a ton you fucking idiot, stop making kusothreads.

>> No.22137603

wtf bros stage 4 (powerful) boss in IN uses the EXACT same theme as stage 4 boss of SoEW??????
did zun really think he could get away with this like no one would NOTICE!?????!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1cgiEa74RPs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7RBJ4NMOBV0
so basically you're retarded and don't know how musical callbacks work

>> No.22137616

>>22137402
>>22137603
Calm down

>> No.22137689

>>22137402
>Guys, what the fuck, Bamboo Forest of the Full Moon reuses the title theme... is ZUN a hackfraud?
To be fair, recycling Theme of Eastern Story in non-title screen tracks feels lazy to me. It was fine the first time, then he kept doing it.

>> No.22137701

>>22137402
>>22137603
Using a musical motif and rearranging a character's old theme is quite different from just blatantly ripping off a melody from the theme of an unrelated character to create a stage theme in a hurry

>> No.22137734

>>22136900
Aside from the tracks using a similar bouncy rhythm, I don't hear it.

>> No.22137803

>>22137734
OP here. I got bored of sucking my grandfather's cock so I decided to make a shitty thread on /jp/ to spice things up. Sorry if it doesn't make much sense, I just really wanted to make an ass of myself.

>> No.22137833

>>22137803
I understand.

>> No.22137925

zun is a hack confirmed
2hu is finished

>> No.22138676

>>22136900
>>22137402
>>22137603
>>22137402
>>22137925
Can you guys fuck off back to /v/

>> No.22139050

wtf bros this can't be happening

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>> No.22139602

>>22138676
Since when /jp/ become so easily analbuttdevastated?

>> No.22139673

>>22139602
you sound mad crossie

>> No.22139704

>>22139673
Cry more

>> No.22139738

Real question, can you call it a rip off if what you're "ripping" is made by yourself? What am I gonna do, sue me?

>> No.22139773

>>22139738
The better term for it is "recycle". The point is you made almost no effort in creating new music, just slap old samples then call it new.
That being said, ZUN have made tons of different music already. There are bound to be varrying degree of similiarity, intentional or not, and ZUN isn't the one that fuss over originality and variety that much, I think. He just makes what sounds good.

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>>22136900
other game composers are far more egregious
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TZQc9Uf5eSE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oeosz6HJGMo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TaRySBA6SfI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-dbuz0xnX8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IyvWSyOhK6M

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mnPALu0E4YM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fh4mkb0r9T4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vpOo_1qh1CM

>> No.22144989

>>22136900
It's called a remix

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