New 2hu manga announced!

[Anonymous No.]

【速報】
東方新作公式コミック新作

『東方酔蝶華 ロータスイーターたちの酔醒』発表

月刊コンプエース 11月号より

[Anonymous No.]

Is that Suika? Guess this is a sequel to WaHH maybe? Also who's the artist, I can't really tell.

[Anonymous No.]

Well that was fast, nice.

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>>22135910
Oh, that's really nice!

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>>22135910
Wohoo

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>>22135918
The artist is https://twitter.com/mizutaki

[Anonymous No.]

>>22135936
saved from kancolle

[Anonymous No.]

New Comic Official
Touhou Drunken Butterfly
Lotus Eater become sober
Story: ZUN
Comic: Mizutaki
Monthly Comp Ace November Issue start!

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>>22135958
It's plural.
Touhou Drunken Butterfly
The Intoxicated Lotus Eaters
or The Lotus Eaters' Intoxication

That's

it's a fucking Touhou ass name, for sure

[Anonymous No.]

The question is would it be wholesome or grimdark?
And who's the new character and possible protag going to be? A youkai or human?

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>>22135958
November issue... Honest question, IS that actually October? I forget how magazines actually release

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>>22135936
Expect fanservice and boat reference soon

[Anonymous No.]

SUIKAAAAAA

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>>22135993
So either LEI or ILE. Place your bets, people!

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>>22135918
Huh? What did Kasen's manga have to do with some dumb oni?

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>>22135993
checking again it is quite likely that part of the pun of the more kanji-part of the title (there's almost always some pun) is that the first two kanji are "suichouka"... do you see it? This refers to a specific flower called spider flower. 酔蝶

The final kanji, however (華), I don't know what that's about atm

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>>22136075
For now
Touhou Suichouka (that's the official pronunciation, I missed the furigana)
However there is a "hana" there which is not pronounced. AFAIK this translates to
Touhou Spider Flower... Flower
or just Touhou Spider Flower
Touhou SUIchouKA

Parts of this combination of kanji unsurprisingly contain "drunk", as in imbibing spirits

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>>22136063
LEI is definitely more accurate

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>>22135910
What's with the whale? Is this actually about water and not about Suika giving up the drink?
>>22136094
>However there is a "hana" there which is not pronounced.
It's the "ka".

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>>22136075
I can't believe Suika is a spider!

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>>22136123
>It's the "ka".
Oh shit, you're riiiight
I was looking at this
http://hananoomoi.com/archives/1594
and missed that the reading it gave was for 酔蝶華, not 酔蝶
I'm a dumbass!

Touhou Spider Flower

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>>22136123
Now that I notice, even the artist's name starts with the water kanji. Wonder if it's a coincidence. It's clearly about Suika.

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>>22136123
>What's with the whale?
... What IS with the whale?

I would've figured it'd be a sake bug. I decided to google the kanji the whale is on top of along with the kanji for whale (酔鯨, Suigei). I got this.
https://www.suigei-net.com/

A sake company, so I don't think it has to do with the sea or water.

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>>22136148
The thought that ZUN picked the artist solely for the water pun is so hilarious I'm gonna start repeating that regardless whether it's true or not.

[Anonymous No.]

/jp/ informative as ever, thank you.
Also more Suika!

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>>22136152
Oh so the whale is probably just a design on the bottle looking part of the kanji

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>>22135958
>>22135993
Lotus Eater become sober
The Intoxicated Lotus Eaters

Which is correct? One kanji is drunken, the other is sober.

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>>22136166

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>>22136172
Nothing I've seen indicates 酔醒 can mean anything other than intoxication, I don't know where anon got sober from that

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>>22136177
It's what the second character means. It seems to be related to 覚 and by extension the phrase 酔い覚め (よいざめ)seems to be another reading of it.

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>>22136232
"sober" is in "intoxication"? That's some wild shit

That said since it's a combination, it's gotta just be "get drunk" right?

[Anonymous No.]

Can't wait.

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>>22136232
No, it's 酔蝶花.
Second character is butterfly. It's one of the names of the spider flower.

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>>22136242
It seems to mean "to get drunk and then sober up/wake up later". Where'd you get intoxication from other than translation? Try searching 酔い醒め.

>>22136287
We're talking about ロータスイーターたちの酔醒, which is what I quoted in >>22136172
While >>22135993 is right in that lotus eaters is plural, I doubt his assessment of 酔醒 meaning intoxicated.

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>>22136298
>It seems to mean "to get drunk and then sober up/wake up later". Where'd you get intoxication from other than translation? Try searching 酔い醒め.
Why would I when that's a phrase not present? That said my source is
https://kotobank.jp/word/%E9%85%94%E9%86%92-2052689

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>>22136307
looking again, while the main definition this gives is to get drunk, a second definition is... to stop drinking. Which, really, is total bullshit

[Anonymous No.]

>try to make a thread about this on /a/
>404s in less than a minute, receive 2 day 23 hour 59 minute ban from specifically /a/

Holy crap, when did /a/ become so anti-2hu?

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>>22136323
the mods on /a/ treat touhou like 4chan treats ponies

don't ask me why i have no idea, also obligatory "who are you quoting" reply

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>>22136320
Last point, to prove I am correct: the reading officially is suisei, which is the reading given for the "to become intoxicated" reading of the kanji from kotobank.

>>22136323
Well, anon... several years ago when /jp/ was created to literally kick Touhou off the board. That is pretty absurd, though. It's manga so it's /a/ related, and I've seen Touhou manga threads last on /a/ before. You got unlucky,

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>>22136323
Because 99% of Touhou threads on /a/ turn into metathreads due to somebody spouting a 2hu meme or KoG getting a Cirno pic with a 9

[Anonymous No.]

Does this mean VFiS is out now and we're just waiting for the translation?

[Anonymous No.]

whats it gonna be about? after wahh and fs it's kind of hard to predict, can't tell if its gonna be about suika or another oni/some kind of other drunk yokai.
>>22136068
did you read wahh?

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>>22136328
>i have no idea
because of this

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>>22136334
>the reading officially is suisei
Yes
>which is the reading given for the "to become intoxicated"
Don't know how you got that from '酒に酔うことと酔のさめること'. That's only the first half.
酔醒 (すいせい) is literally 酔 and 醒. I don't know how you'd translate that nicely into English though.

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>>22136353
There is absolutely no twitter buzz on this so I'm guessing the answer is "not officially"

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>>22136340
>KoG getting a Cirno pic with a 9
what when?

[Anonymous No.]

>>22136334
>>22136355
I doubt current mods on /a/ even remember when Touhou was still there before /jp/ was created.

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>>22136365
https://desuarchive.org/a/thread/191999999/
https://desuarchive.org/a/thread/191983641/#192000000

Threads were also deleted super fast. Meanwhile, /a/ regularly hosts Pokemon threads and other stuff. /a/ mods just have a vendetta against Touhou for some reason.

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>>22136323
Nu-/a/ is absolute spic and newfag hell m, on top of being left unchecked and overrun by shounenshitters. Do Touhou a favor and don't post it there anymore, I don't want human trash on board this sinking ship.

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>>22136361
I see where I'm fucking up, "sameru", which just looking at it I don't know what the shit that means. Googling the hiragana gives a kanji result for waking...

It's not perfectly accurate, but I'd probably translate it as "The Lotus Eaters' Hangover"

The idea is that you got drunk, then you stopped drinking. A more accurate title would be "The Lotus Eaters' Drinking and Sobering"... I guess

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>>22136372
speaking of kog does anyone know the song he used for this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Gz9VUC82X0

i know it's a 2hu song but i don't know which one

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>>22136382
>I don't want human trash on board this sinking ship.
Oh please, anonymous. The Touhou fanbase has been home to absolute shitters ACTUALLY forever. For fucking ever. More would do nothing, though at least these days it's easy for a shitter to educate themself and be less obnoxious about Touhou

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>>22136385
It sounds very similar to Fantasy Corridor.

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>>22136397
what game is that from?

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>>22136400
It's not from any game. It's something he composed for something else. There's little remixes of this song on YouTube, and none of them sound like what's in his video. I'll try doing a search on Nicovideo, but after that, I'm out of ideas.

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>>22136372
>Pokemon threads
Well being absolutely fair, the pokemon anime (and manga) and the pokemon games are separate beasts, and /vp/'s reason is in the name: it's for the pokemon GAMES. This is why, of course, the anime and such is allowed on /a/.

Touhou is a weird case where it is related to two boards but mods get very, very upset if you post Touhou on /a/ or /v/. Moreso on /a/--/v/ threads get pushed onto /jp/ while /a/ ones get deleted, if anything happens at all.

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>>22136385
I wondered how that would keep going after 3:20 but then it ramped up and got even more autistic even though I thought it not possible, yet I'm left with a strange feeling of satisfaction...

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>>22136307
>Why would I when that's a phrase not present?
It seems to be how it's pronounced besides the furigana ZUN used. That is, 酔醒 is also 酔い醒め.
>That said my source is https://kotobank.jp/word/%E9%85%94%E9%86%92-2052689
>酒に酔うことと酔のさめること
"To get drunk off alcohol and to recover from drunkenness"
酔い醒め is listed as a pronunciation there.

Curiously, there seems to be some sort of phrase or proverb using it. https://kotobank.jp/word/%E9%85%94%E9%86%92%E3%81%AE%E6%B0%B4%E3%81%AF%E7%94%98%E9%9C%B2%E3%81%AE%E5%91%B3-2090785
While it's pronounced よいざめのみずはかんろのあ, the 水は甘露 kinda makes you think of sui(ha)ka(nro)

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>>22136385
Okay, I found the video the remix is from: https://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm30611881

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>>22136431
if you put it that way, shit, I guess "sobering" makes the most sense for a rough English equivalent. It lacks the getting drunk part, but sobering implies what happened. That said Sobering of the Lotus Eaters, and Lotus Eaters' Sobering, both sound quite clunky

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>>22136455
The detoxification of the lotus eaters? Maybe the lotus eaters' awakening, if you want to be more loose?
Becoming conscious, lucid... actually, why isn't the subtitle entirely in english? Has that happened before?

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>>22136495
No, I don't think so. ISC came to mind but with that, the oddity was that it's actually not titled "Touhou", it's just "Danmaku Amanojaku".

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>>22136383
>I see where I'm fucking up, "sameru", which just looking at it I don't know what the shit that means. Googling the hiragana gives a kanji result for waking...
That's because 醒める and 覚める are alternate ways of writing the same word. 醒める probably has a specific "sobering up" or "waking up after blacking out" nuance because of the alcohol radical.

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>>22136005
Kadokawa Shoten publishes their monthly magazine 2 months in advance, on every 26th before the beginning of a month followed by one issued. You can look back on the released chapters of Sangetsusei and Forbidden Scrollery and the dates they'd been published in Comp Ace.
The November issue will likely be out tomorrow.

>>22136353
Either Kadokawa will publish both in a coming magazine, or not till December. Haven't seen any news about it, other than someone's plans on translating it, so we'll have to wait.

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RE: Lotus-Eaters, a separate fellow mentioned that could be a reference to The Odyssey. It could not be but we don't know of Asian Lotus Eater references, and it is worth noting that Spider Flower is not native to Asia so, y'know, why not more Greek stuff (spider flower is from south america)?

Anyway the Lotus-Eaters summarized
>In the Odyssey Book IX, Odysseus tells how adverse north winds blew him and his men off course as they were rounding Cape Malea, the southernmost tip of the Peloponnesus, headed westwards for Ithaca:
> I was driven thence by foul winds for a space of 9 days upon the sea, but on the tenth day we reached the land of the Lotus-eaters, who live on a food that comes from a kind of flower. Here we landed to take in fresh water, and our crews got their mid-day meal on the shore near the ships. When they had eaten and drunk I sent two of my company to see what manner of men the people of the place might be, and they had a third man under them. They started at once, and went about among the Lotus-eaters, who did them no hurt, but gave them to eat of the lotus, which was so delicious that those who ate of it left off caring about home, and did not even want to go back and say what had happened to them, but were for staying and munching lotus with the Lotus-eaters without thinking further of their return; nevertheless, though they wept bitterly I forced them back to the ships and made them fast under the benches. Then I told the rest to go on board at once, lest any of them should taste of the lotus and leave off wanting to get home, so they took their places and smote the grey sea with their oars.
tl;dr, Odysseus's men were taken in by these peaceful Lotus-Eaters who ate, what else? Lotus food. This shit was absolutely delicious, and they didn't want to leave. Eventually, Odysseus had to force them to get back on the ship by fucking tying them to the boat.

Personally I think, given the fact that Lotus-Eaters is in katakana and what the Lotus-Eaters are doing is sobering up, it's probably a reference to the Odyssey. So, this could refer to Suika herself, or Suika's people: the oni who have grown comfortable in their isolation. The same oni Suika wanted to bring back to the surface in IaMP.

Or it could be a cool-sounding title, but ZUN tends to make his titles very meaningful. Usually!

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Toutetsu please be in this manga.
It has something to do about "eating" after all.

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>>22136495
Soku and Fairy Wars

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>>22135958
>Mizutaki
Not that I’m complaining but didn’t ZUN said that when starting a new series he want to cooperate with someone hasn’t drawn an official work yet.
That being said, Mizutaki is still my first thought when it comes to drinking touhou.
The illustrations he drew for ZUN’s beer columns are pretty neat.

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>>22136851
No wonder he worked with him/her then.

Hirasaka had a similar deal: he drew bonus comics for the first fairies manga (the one no one ever talks about). After the first artist was... hospitalized, I think it was, Hirasaka became the new artist.

My biggest concern here is "will they draw Suika's horns properly big?" Since you mentioned that they were the ones doodling ZUN's drinkventures post-WaHH chapters, I wonder if there's a Suika in there somewhere.

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>>22135910
If Suika's really going to be the protag of this new manga, wonder if it'll introduce a newhu since that's what new 2hu manga usually does.
Wonder if it'll finally introduce the long awaited 4th deva.

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Why didn't ZOUNOSE get picked to illustrate?

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>>22136328
Retarded shitty mods being retarded and shitty, in other news the sky is blue.

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>>22137068
Because his art is bad.

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>>22137068
ZUN doesn't really read fanworks so I wouldn't be surprised if he doesn't know he exists

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>>22137068
The day Zounose illustrates a canon work will be the day Hirasaka releases his fairy H-doujin.

Also reading his afterwords, Zounose's work schedule isn't really appropriate for strict releases, even if it's bimonthly.

>>22137072
Wait, so he found Azmaya from some other sources?

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>>22136323
That's better than me getting range banned for a month for a Touhou pic in one thread.

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>>22135910
good to see a new manga at least

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>>22137068
It can happen someday, think ZUN really only cares if the artist cares about 2hu and is relatively good at drawing.
Would be awesome to see Zounouse's Suwako make an appearance in canon, to see whether or not ZUN would allow a depiction like that. ZUN doesn't really care about making "waifus" so I can see it happening.

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>>22137189
>ZUN doesn't really care about making "waifus" so I can see it happening.
The thought process of an average edgefag.

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>>22137195
What are you talking about, schizo?
ZUN doesn't care about making waifus, hence why practically every single 2hu is an asshole. Suwako's a curse goddess, and being kind of creepy fits her well. ZUN allowed Mamizou and Reimu to be drawn in more intimidating ways in FS.
Touhou isn't gacha. This isn't an edgefag thing.

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>>22137189
Personally, I don't think ZUN will allow such a drastic depiction of character. Sure Suwako is a curse goddess, but her past appearance isn't really over-the-top like Zounose's. She's more bubbly with a dash of creepiness.
>Pay more respect to the earth.
>Otherwise, who knows? You might even get cursed. Heh heh.

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>>22137217
Your idea of a "waifu" is so weird, it's literally no use talking to you. You live in an insane edgefag dimension.

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>>22137318
Waifu means exactly that, wife material, schizo. The phrase popularized from someone literally talking about their wife.
A girl that will care for your needs, kind, pretty, and gentle. Making a "waifu" is that.
To which the vast majority of 2hus are not like that.

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You people are way too optimistic. I would love the manga to be about Suika and the other oni but we just finished Kasen's manga and ZUN doesn't like retreading old ground. This manga is obviously just gonna be a SoL about Reimu and Marisa having drinking parties while random characters come visit and talk to them. The "Lotus" part of the title is integral. That word is uniquely associated with Reimu and Marisa. The first time ZUN used it was in "Touhou Gensoukyou ~ Lotus Land Story". And we all know how Reimu and Marisa got their own stage 1 themes and stage 4 fights in that game. Plus pic related.

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>>22135910
no Azuma Aya
no Buy

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>>22137352
>That word is uniquely associated with Reimu and Marisa
What does that make Rinnosuke and his Curiosities of LOTUS Asia then?

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>>22137365
Reimu and Marisa are the most common characters present in that series besides Rinnosuke so far.

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>>22137365
It's funny how they're more prominent on CoLA's first cover than Rinnsouke

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>>22137387
Also Sumireko now, in all the new chapters

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>>22136713
Based lore anon

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>>22137068
Because his art is stiff as fuck without life. Seriously most of the time his characters just standing there like in some western RPG.

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>>22137578
Based on what?

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>>22137217
>>22137312
>Suwako is a curse goddess
No she isn't and she never was. She controls the curse gods but that's mostly their selling point how to gain faith because because that's one of their aspects. Get that shit right kudasai.

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>>22137352
>Lotus Land Story
Yuuka is back, bitches!
ZUN finally remembered his third protagonist

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>>22137774
>third protagonist
Mima?!

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>>22137352
If it's a chance for characters we haven't seen much if at all lately beyond cameos to have some moments of their own, I'm not complaining about an idea like that.

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>>22135910
Oh crap. Looks like we’re about to start posting about Suika more often.
>>22136323
Touhou raped /a/ for mang (read short) years with the hijack threads which prompted /jp/ being created as a sole containment board for touhou specifically and the other crap that became the so called ‘golden age’ spam, also >>22136382.
I received several rangebans from /a/ and I believe I posted in a reoccurring thread regulared by a mod as I always received a rangeban after leaving that board for an average of two days.
It got another season so I suspect he wanted to get rid of the ‘old guys’ but to be fair, I did say I would take a year long break from the board so anything is possible.

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>>22138532
>mang
Many*

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>>22137072
That's not true. He reads some and knows of fangames too, so it really just depends.

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>>22137639
Thing is she's essentially a curse goddess considering what she's capable of. It's shorthand.

Better than calling her a frog goddess, when there is actually nothing frog related to her outside of a few aesthetics.

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>>22137352
Suika is prominently in the promotional art and a slight pun on her name is in the "kanji" part of the title, something ZUN has done with nearly every Touhou title like Youyoumu, Suzunaan, or the blatantly obvious Ibarakasen

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>>22137352
>>22137394
I think the thing to keep in mind is that it's not just lotus, it's "lotus-eaters", which is a lot more specific

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>>22137815
Mima is actually the second protag. Marisa would be the third, making Yuuka the fourth.

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>>22138640
Yes it's referring to the drug addicted Lotus-Eaters that Odysseus encountered. "Lotus-Eater" basically means "drunkard" or "carefree person". And as you can see it's Reimu and Marisa drinking right there. I'm not saying Suika won't be prominent, she will obviously be this manga's Mamizou (FS). Just saying it's probably not gonna be lore heavy like SSiB, FS or WaHH. It'll be fairy manga-tier SoL until the end of the volume(s).

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>>22138792
The fairy manga are lore-heavy.

Like, actually. Some of the most lore is in there. As for this
>"Lotus-Eater" basically means "drunkard" or "carefree person".
I don't know about that. I've never seen it used in that context, at least. I've only seen it in The Odyssey.

[Anonymous No.]

So when is the first chapter getting released?

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>>22138949
Looking it up I see it as a possible definition but still, that's after sifting through "this is specifically from The Odyssey" references.

I'd say it could go either way in that case but since Suika's presence in the promo looks ominous I'm not betting on it being ENTIRELY lighthearted.

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>>22136713
Based. Heca-san, based Quetzalcoatl, Troyans and Yamame confirmed.

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>>22136354
Yes, it's a manga about some hermit.

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>>22138982
The ominousness of it makes me think she sobers up and goes back to being serious evil oni instead of drunken loli oni. Then Kasen has to reattach her arm to stop her.

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>>22136002
Asking this question when two (2) recent Touhou manga have cemented in everyone's heads official works are all anticlimatic SoL stories? Sounds like doujins are your best bet.

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>>22138532
Rangebans aren't given to you anon. They're given out when an entire ISP worth of users shitpost the site into oblivion. Or just some skid playing with bots.

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>>22136427
Touhou is infinitely more /v/ than /a/. Touhou does not belong on /a/ for any reason except if an official anime is made for it.

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>>22139553
Doesn’t explain why I’ve been consistently rangebanned from /o/ for the past three years despite never posting there except for the one occasion where I forgot what board I was on.

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>>22139589
Step back and think about it for a moment. If you've never posted on a board and you get a rangeban (different from a ban) how could that happen? Is it because you made one OT post (which usually gets you warned or outright banned) or is it because your shitty ISP still uses dynamic IP address assignment?

[Anonymous No.]

>>22139567
Touhou has had several official manga spanning a decade and a half, it's as /a/-related as anything else.

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>>22139589
It means you share an ISP someone who's been banned from /a/ like a thousand times.

/o/ used to be people crying about how it was the most eternally ruined and unmoderated board on earth but I guess they finally dropped the hammer.

[Anonymous No.]

I wish /a/ wasnt a faggy place anymore. lets hope this manga is fun and like WaHH but without some dumb tropes

[Anonymous No.]

>>22139627
It's likely going to be "Reimu through the eyes of Suika and the new 2hu", not that it's a bad premise.

[Anonymous No.]

The new 2hu will be Toutetsu, who's not only the Eagle faction matriarch, but also the fourth Deva.
Cap this.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22139751
Faggot shit

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>>22139369
Suika was never evil or serious, only Kasen (see: her title). Source: IaMP narration explicitly telling you that she's a weird, non-violent, non-aggressive oni. At least in the sense that she doesn't actually antagonize humans.

That being said ZUN could always double back. He doesn't ever to my knowledge but you never know.

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>>22139779
all she does is get drunk and do some chaos here and there. Also more giantess suika when?

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>>22139751
Toutetsu can't be an animal and an oni at the same time. I do suspect they're gonna appear in the manga though.

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>>22139779
Suika is by no means non-aggressive. In one of the mangas she literally knocks out several people in her mist form for no fuckin reason.
Don't get me wrong, she's not evil, either. She's just chaotic, as most Oni are.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22139786
Aren't Urumi a specific kind of cow-oni?

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>>22139869
Yes she's an ushi-oni (ox oni)
But those already existed in Japanese mythology
Toutetsu is the monster sheep Taotie and no text ever describes Taotie as an oni

[Anonymous No.]

According to my Japanese friend, 酔醒 means to get drunk and then sober. I suppose intoxication still works then?

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>>22139966
"Intoxication" only covers the drunk part, not the sober.
Honestly, this is one of those that doesn't have an exact English equivalent, and we might just end up with "Lotus Eater Intoxication" anyway because that's what Google Translate gives.
On the other hand, if you understand what Lotus Eater refers to, I think referring to sobriety might be a better word choice.

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>>22139995
>Lotus Eater Sobriety
>LES
Zun confirmed a /u/ pairing

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>>22139900
ZUN does love mixing two or more different origins to one character. It's not out of the ordinary for ZUN to do something like that, I feel.
Shinigami and Greek Thanatos, Nuclear Fusion and Yatagarasu, two separate Hou-yi, japanese economic bubble and poverty gods, a mexican painting and psych concepts with the mythological Satori, etc.
ZUN's pretty flexible on building his characters from what origin, and imo this style makes it a lot more memorable than the usual stuff.

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>>22139995
The way he told me made it sound like its the full cycle of drinking, getting drunk and then sobering up
Although if its the Oddessy reference, sobering up might not fit, since the whole point is that you cant stop eating it

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>>22139853
She did it because she's one of the few youkai left that values doing her job as a youkai.

[Anonymous No.]

do you trust suika as a shop owner?

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>>22140027
The title might imply that the lotus eaters are indeed sobering up anyway. Or it might imply that they're just engaging in a cycle of intoxication and sobering. We won't know how to interpret it until we've seen the story. By then what ever translation sticks is what we'll be stuck with.

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>>22140334
Yes and no.
Just make sure she is nowhere near liquor during work hours and weeks.
Other than that, Suika is very reliable in some cases.

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>>22138615
>Thing is she's essentially a curse goddess considering what she's capable of. It's shorthand.
Amazing logic right there but if want to call somehow then call her earth goddess because that's what her default power is.
>Better than calling her a frog goddess, when there is actually nothing frog related to her outside of a few aesthetics
Actually, wrong again. Suwako is based on native gods, particularly Moreya and they were mostly symbolized with frog.

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>>22139853
Like I said
>At least in the sense that she doesn't actually antagonize humans.
Even when she knocked Marisa over in that chapter you're referring to, after she gets kicked down by Reimu it's Marisa who helps her back up. Because it wasn't really true "aggression", just roughhousing (which she is absolutely known for, and Marisa has a lot of complaints about her body-tossing """""""danmaku""""""" in GoM)

I would agree that she's chaotic. Though her first act in seen Touhou canon was a farce of chaos (I just want to extend spring because it was cut short lol (but actually I want to make Gensokyo seem fun so the other oni come back too)) she has a lot of moments of absolute carefree whimsy, often self-interested in nature.

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>>22139900
Urumi is also not from the beast realm

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>>22139661
>Reimu through the eyes of Suika
So, constantly drunk Reimu?

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>>22140576
>wrong again

>they were mostly symbolized with frog
>outside of a few aesthetics
>aesthetics
>symbolized
it's basically frog cosplay. Just because she puts on the frog suit doesn't make her a frog. She has no frog blessings or powers, and regardless of her mythological inspiration, she herself in Touhou
>simply loves frogs.
I'm quoting SoPM. In that same article of SoPM it outright says, furthermore
>she is not actually a goddess of frogs.

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>>22140604
>She has no frog blessings
note: while I said this she actually does have "frog blessings" but again it is aesthetic. Visually she will give frog-shaped blessings, basically, is a simplified way of putting it. She has no power or domain or influence over frogs or actual frog-based anything

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>>22140027
>since the whole point is that you cant stop eating it
Right, but I think the title implication is that it does happen, which is why it's a cycle; the hypothetical Lotus Eater will have to stop at some point.
Applying this to Suika would mean her perpetual drunken state comes to a stop, and since Suika is always drunk, calling her "intoxicated" is a bit redundant.

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>>22140027
Well not quite, they were sobered up, but only after being forced away from their indulgences

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>>22140616
The Lotus Eaters' Drink and Rest?

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>>22140604
>Just because she puts on the frog suit doesn't make her a frog
I never said. I wrote that she's earth goddess. The point still stands though. Her design, mythological base, both official and fan works, Pyonta etc etc everything about her is connected to lakes, earth and frogs. If you want to call her a curse goddess rather than frog goddess or whatever you think because of one fragment of her power that's not even her own then sure, be my guest.

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>>22137072
>he doesn't know he exists
https://youtu.be/LgEZZkPPDEQ?t=3190

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>>22140811
Wait, so is that Zounose, or just someone else holding his drawing?

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>>22140824
It's Zounose.

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Featuring cowe milf from WBaWC series

[Anonymous No.]

>>22140811
The face of typical grimdarkfag

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>>22140935
This artist is actually pretty good

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>>22140935
MUH DIK

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>>22140935
Drinking while breastfeeding, a momhu living on the edge.

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>>22139966
What about "Return to sobriety"?

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>>22140935
I just hope Keiki makes it in.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22141108
Keiki is shit, literally

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>>22141110
Thank you for your valuable contribution to the board and Touhou community.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22141131
Yes. I wonder how many people know that one iteration of Haniyasushin-no-Kami is that it was born from Izanagi's feces.
Though personally I won't choose that iteration.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22136002
You know full well how it is going to go:
A new character appears and gets to know Reimu and Marisa. Then they and that new character always stumble across other 2hus or some random event related to some japanese myth. At the end of each chapter no one has learned anything and all events are quickly forgotten. In the very final chapter something big related to the new character will happen but then everyone forgets about it and it will never be mentioned again. Fans cry a single tear as they silently hope the new character will show up again, even though the chances are slim.

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>>22141153
I remember that people were mentioning it a lot in after game release threads.

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>>22141154
>Fans cry a single tear
Only weird people who after all these years still want Touhou to be something it’s not.

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>>22141265
True, real Touhou fans celebrated when FS ended and Kozusu stopped being relevant, instead of being sad about it.

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>>22141387
That happens every time with the mainline game, what makes the manga so special? I mean how many people do you think even remember Eika?
>real Touhou fans
Also get out of here with your no true Scotsman.

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>>22141397
It's ok, Anon. I too care so little about the manga that I feel nothing when they end after being around for years. Only weird people would be sad about that.

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>>22141397
Because you see the character a lot more in long overaching story of manga compared to one-note character in 30-minute game?
Besides, is it wrong to shed tear for missing my favorite character?

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>>22141400
Ah, I get it. You're an idiot.

>>22141417
First point, fair enough.
Second point, not wrong, but it is weird if you're still expecting something different. I can't really say I share the sentiment over canon relevancy, Touhou has always been pretty vague on what's what. It's like, ZUN sets up the stage, the audience is the one who picks up the bits and pieces. More is great, but less isn't necessarily terrible.

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>>22141485
I am not even sure what you think is weird at this point. People being sad because the manga featuring their favourite character is over? People missing their favourite characters? People hoping their favourite character will show up again? If you think it's weird for people to have hopes that their favourite will show up again, then you just need to look at every single character who showed up more than once in the series. Even manga original characters showed up again after their manga was over.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22136372
/a/ has the worst moderation on the entire fucking site. It's completely overrun by newfag retards. It's not just Touhou, try to make a Strike Witches thread.

[Anonymous No.]

Even if it's Suika focussed we are getting new characters like every manga. Can't wait.

[Anonymous No.]

you......YOU LOTUS-EATER

[Anonymous No.]

>>22141525
That the manga character will be as relevant as they are in their debut manga.
Although reading back, I just realized I assumed that last part. Apologies then, and just ignore me.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22140949
Pretty good looking for a jap, nice palate and browline. Just needs to work out a bit more.

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>>22139553
So how do I get over a country wide rangeban? It's been months.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22142620
Find a non-banned VPN node.
Or submit a feedback request.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22141108
Considering how popular she is, no doubt about it.

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>>22142631
Wait, the feedback works for real? It never worked for me.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22142696
ZUN isn't exactly known for adding things because they're popular. He just does whatever the fuck he wants, which is more than fine.

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>>22142718
I once noticed 4chan was busted unless I used a VPN. I wasn't banned, I could browse but the whole site looked entirely broken and I couldn't see images and shit. Using the affected IP I sent a request saying "shit's fucked on this IP, don't know why" and it was fixed the next day.

Could be a coincidence but I'd been having that problem for months.

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>>22139545
>Asking this question when two (2) recent Touhou manga have cemented in everyone's heads official works are all anticlimatic SoL stories?
Meanwhile, in Sangetsusei finale...

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>>22141568

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>>22139241
>>22136068
This shit has never been funny.

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>>22135910
release when ?

[Anonymous No.]

>>22143724
We just don't know.

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With mangarock dying, where is gonna be the best alternative to read this in English?

[Anonymous No.]

>>22143957
Where every other recent Touhou manga was hosted...? That is, mangadex.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22140987
That is not a baby, that is a stone.

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>>22143634
Kasen is a hermit, former oni. The same as the Tao crew, they're hermits now, former humans.
I don't get why people don't understand this.

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>>22144561
I'm just going to say "no" and not get into this.

[Anonymous No.]

Good(?) news, apparently a certain fan translation will be going with "Sobering". Granted it's "roughly translated", but still.

[Anonymous No.]

Guys, I've never read any Touhou manga, and I'd like to try one of the official ones, which one should I start with? I found that Forbidden Scrollery and Wild and Horned Hermit are good choices, but I can't even pick from those, I mean I don't know much about Gensokyo lore. I've only played TH 5, 6, 7, and 15 so far if that's relevant. What do you recommend?

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>>22145110
Bougetsugou

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>>22145110
i dunno i started with the sangetsusei series, go play touhou 8 you faggot

[Anonymous No.]

>>22145122
>>22145137
Thanks, I'll go check these out.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22144561
It's just a shitty meme that western "reddit" and discord faggots circlejerk over. "Kasen is not an oni!" So funny right.

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>>22145254
haha dont you love reddit memes right lol sanae slut bad XD

[Anonymous No.]

>>22145260
Exactly, it's the same shit posted by the same people.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22145263
d*scord is bad anyway. I hate how stingy they get on those servers anyway

[Anonymous No.]

>>22144561
Considering how easy she can go back to being an oni, I'd argue she's a hermit in name only, unlike the Taoists.
Anyway, was or is, Kasen definitely has connection to Suika, and anyone who play dumb by asking "what does the hermit has to do with the oni" need to reevaluate their life.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22145070
Well, it's straight-up wrong, but I guess that's to be expected with random fan translation.
Glad I learned Japanese.

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>>22145379
I really hope people refer to it as Suichouka much like how they do with Hisoutensoku, but alas.

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>>22145254
>>22145260
>>22145263
>>22145267
Anon, if you don't like the joke then that's fine, but there's no need to be a faggotman about it.
"Kasen is not an oni lol" isn't a particularly recent joke by any stretch of the imagination. That you constantly try to convince people that it came from Reddit reeks of projection.

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>>22141568
You DOUBLE LOTUS EATER

[Anonymous No.]

Good to see that after over 2200 threads /jp/ collectively could read at a JY level.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22145263
Just like Flanfly

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>>22135958
>monthly
yay

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>>22145541
t-take that back

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>>22145379
Because the official translation of Forbidden Scrollery is so great, right?

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>>22145700
No one said anything about the official translation, Clarste.

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>>22145700
Don't worry, I'm sure that's shit too.

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>>22145171
>>22145110
Do NOT start with Bougetsushou, that is "Silent Sinner in Blue" and the general consensus toward it is justifiably negative. It was ZUN's first attempt at a serious manga and it wasn't great a lot of the time.

You can start with any one other that that. If you start with Sangetsusei, though, start with the second series (Strange and Bright Nature Deity). The first series' art is dubious and it's a manga cut short due to the artist's failing health. SaBND is where Hirasaka, the artist known for fairies, starts.

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>>22145744
It's required reading anyway if you want to know more about the series, might as well get that over quickly. Especially since it's more or less tied to CiLR.
Buuut if he just wants to read for entertainment, then yeah a quick synopsis would help.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22145744
I would recommend against reading Hirasaka's work unless you want to become a fairycon.

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>>22145762
It's really not required reading. I skipped it myself when getting into Touhou and read it once I was a fan, and there were things I loved about it (Patchouli all the time, bits of Youmu, Remilia's audacity) but I didn't care for most of it, and I don't think it really added anything in the end. CiLR helped, but even that is like, half incredibly boring. Youmu's great, Reisen 2 is great, the gotcha bitch moment at the end is great, but required...? Ehhh... I'd say "it's an incident that happened" and that's about it. There are lore details for Eirin and her gang, but then there are the moonbitch sisters who aren't relevant outside of Bougetsusou, and as for the other characters they ultimately don't do anything all that noteworthy. If you said "Remilia had Patchouli build a rocket to the moon, and Reimu was the engine. They all tried to take over the moon and a Mary Sue stopped them", that's satisfactory.

If anything I'd encourage reading the original run of CoLA. That actually has oodles of details while also being entertaining, and I get this feeling that most people haven't given it a chance.

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>>22145792
Isn't Rinnosuke ZUN's self insert gary stu? All these girls who are normally violent assholes in the games are falling over themselves (literally in Youmu's case) to hang around his shop and spend time with him. It's just shy of being a goddamn harem series. Plus ZUN's blog and twitter are called Kourindo, aren't they?

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>>22145807
Really makes you think doesn't it?

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>>22145744
Isn't the first series of Sangetsusei only like five chapters? May as well power through it though on top of the art, again ZUN's writing is kinda dubious. Thinking specifically of the abrupt ending to the giant egg chapter.

Damn and here I was trying to make a case for it.

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>>22145807
Jesus, no

First of all Rinnosuke is the farthest thing from a Gary Stu. He's a poseur who thinks he knows more than he does, and he gets seriously embarrassed on the occasions when he's caught or fooled himself. He's a jerkass too, and practically a hermit.

The only two girls who hang out with him, and it really isn't that often given everywhere else we see that they hang out at the shrine, are Marisa and Reimu. Marisa is a childhood/family friend, and Reimu has also known him since she was a child. They both treat him like they treat a brother: exploitative and teasing and checking up on him every once in a while. While Kasen and Sumireko talk to him regularly as well, it's by happenstance. They use his shop as a meeting place. He gets a few other customers, but it really is a few.

I don't know how fucked your head has to be to read CoLA and say it's shy of being a harem series. What the shit

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>>22145807
>falling over themselves (literally in Youmu's case) to hang around his shop
Youmu went to his shop to find something she'd lost and she fell over because snow fell on her head. Rinnosuke barely helped her.

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>>22145807
>Isn't Rinnosuke ZUN's self insert gary stu?
Do you even read CoLA?

[Anonymous No.]

>>22145807
Did you not read it?

[Anonymous No.]

>>22145807
How the fuck can you read CoLA and think it's a fucking harem series.
Also take anything said in-game with a pinch of salt; like Alice is pretty haughty with her "Your power is only twenty-eight-point-five-seven-one-four percent as powerful as mine" line, but she's pretty accommodating in the fairy manga for example. It's bantering after all.

>>22145826
There's also Yukari, but that's a "you scratch my back I'll scratch yours" kinda relationship.

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>>22140581
>"""""""
What the hell is wrong with you

[Anonymous No.]

>>22145861
Alice has every reason to wish Reimu a most painful death.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22145863
Oh no, a scare quotes joke because of the fact that Marisa says

[Anonymous No.]

>>22145807
>All these girls who are normally violent assholes in the games are falling over themselves
Funny how try to look at this from harem anime perspective.
Like, why does it matter whether they are violent or not?

[Anonymous No.]

>>22145932
They're mainly only violent with youkai anyway, and Rinnosuke's only half of one.

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>>22145807
This is one of the dumbest posts in /jp/, every other chapter is about Rinnosuke being a dumbass who thinks he knows stuff he doesn't, and he's only interacted with like 6 2hus. That's not self-insert or gary stu.

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>>22145744
>the general consensus toward it is justifiably negative.
So the general consensus happens to be the most pleb opinion?
Really makes me think.

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>>22145744
The art in the first 2 manga is also by far the worst out of any of them. WAHH started super sketchy looking but it got way better as it went on. The first fairy manga and SSiB never improve and I am very sure the low quality art is a big reason why SSiB is so bad. The last 3rd of the manga is nothing but fighting but it just looks terrible and there is no writing there to make up for anything. Tho to be fair the first fairy manga is so short that it would have been impossible for the art to improve over time.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22136166
I hate suika!

[Anonymous No.]

>>22146804
The first manga's art is fine and cute.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22147103
It looks like unfinished sketches with the artist just saying: "Oh well, I don't need to finish the backgrounds or add more details. I'm sure my assistant will do it.", only to never realize that he had no assistant.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22147125
It's still fine and cute. You can just go back to Berserk or whatever if it bothers you. It's not like Hirasaka's splitting one background image into 3 frames and then adding another just to show a close up of a character's foot is much better.

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>>22143303
Certainly not working for me unfortunately

[Anonymous No.]

>>22145744
Silent Sinner in Blue always reminds me of some of those Star Wars extended universe stories that are super bad but everyone who wants to see everything still has to slog through them or at least read a summary of it online, like The Courtship of Princess Leia.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22146777
Sure is pleb to dislike overdramaticized interactions, bad art, poor fight choreography, a schizophrenic plot, and a pair of mary sue antagonists

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>>22147408
Stop being so offended, yeesh. Even if you like it, you can't really say the unfinished sketches are a good thing. It's not even one of those done for aesthetic look.

>>22147457
>The Courtship of Princess Leia
That wasn't a fanfic?

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>>22147532
>mary sue antagonists
QED.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22147125
The vacuous white backgrounds and foregrounds are bad, but the details on Reimu and the tree are rather good. Why'd you pick a nice looking page when you're trying to criticize, I'm pretty sure there were some nearly goddamn empty pages near the end. And remind me, the artist stopped for health reasons?

[Anonymous No.]

>>22145379
Out of curiosity which of the alternatives suggested in this thread do you prefer? I can't read your mind and you're posting anonymously.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22147125
>unfinished sketches
The characters are actually drawn very well. The lack of background ≠ bad art. Togashi's art for example when he stop give a fuck now those were unfinished sketches.

[Anonymous No.]

why does zun like onis so much

[Anonymous No.]

>>22148826
Why do you ask, is there something wrong with like Yuugi?

[Anonymous No.]

>>22148751
I thought 'The Lotus Eaters' Drinking and Sobering' sounded okay.
Or it's at least closer to the original subtitle.
Having it just as 'sobering' arbitrarily ignores the other half of the word, changing the meaning entirely.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22148826
If he does where is my 4th oni?

[Anonymous No.]

>>22140935
m-mommy

[Anonymous No.]

>>22145744
Bougetsushou has a coherent plot with plant and payoff from start to finish. Ibarakasen and Suzunaan are just episodic and then ZUN tries to wrap it up quickly in the end.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22145348
Point taken. I need to improve my reading skills.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22139853
I want Suika to knock me out with her mist haha.

[Anonymous No.]

Was having FS, WaHH, and Fairies all at once an anomaly or is there a chance we'll be seeing another manga announced in the near future?

[Anonymous No.]

>>22151458
Another manga is pretty likely, but FS was first released like two years after WaHH I think, and OSP to VFiS took like four years. So bottom line, we'll be waiting for a while.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22151458
The fairies comic has been running since EoSD era, so it's possible it'll start back up in a year or so.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22151458
anything is always possible, anon

[Anonymous No.]

>>22135910
I don't think it will be "dark", but that preview looks sinister

[Anonymous No.]

>>22148740
>details on Reimu

What details? The character having black hair? He couldn't even be bothered to draw all of the little red band that is on Reimu's sleeves. Instead he drew 4 vague rectangle shapes on 1 sleeve and then just stopped again. He didn't even want to bother with the other one. That's the exact opposite of details. Otherwise you might as well claim the characters in >>22148810 are detailed. After all, they have eyes, hair and wear clothes. They even have a visible hand, unlike Reimu.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22153223
You're trying too hard and also both of Reimu's hands are visible.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22153354
I'm sorry, I guess I was blinded by all the details in that picture. It's hard to focus your vision with so much to look at.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22153218
The image preview and the title makes me think Suika will voluntarily sober up for a reason. That alone is terrifying enough.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22154026
Maybe not. Since it's more like a cycle of drinking, it'll probably be some collection of weird binge drinking adventures.

Someone please post that one page about Reimu and Marisa trying to get squirrels drunk.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22154158
I don't think I even know what half of these refer to
most of them sound like fairies manga shenanigans, but reimu and marisa getting squirrels drunk could be either WaHH or FS

[Anonymous No.]

>>22136002
Wholesome in a very grim dark way. One that constantly reiterates the fact that the main characters have happy carefree lives, while every other human in Gensokyo is some version of miserable.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22141265
How so? Plenty of characters came back time and time again. Is it really too much to ask for the protagonist of a spin off to get the same treatment.

[Anonymous No.]

featuring mizutaki from the food series

[Anonymous No.]

>>22154317
I meant the actual manga page, and it was one of those two, probably WaHH.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22154317
I have no fucking clue what the fuck was going on in most of the early Sangetsusei chapters.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22141154
That good feel when every fairy in the fairy manga has been in a game except those two at the very end and chances are greater than zero that they'll show up again if there's another manga or game.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22154559
Yeah the art was fucking awful
I have no idea what ZUN was thinking, picking him as the artist

[Anonymous No.]

>>22154317
Wasn't there also a chapter about the kappa shooting each other with guns for some reason?

[Anonymous No.]

>>22154317
Don't forget that one time when they look under the shrine, and there is a dog with a man's face there, telling them to leave it alone.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22154683
No, I was talking about the goddamn writing. I get it, the art was shit and you didn't like it but chill out.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22154714
The river kappa moved to the mountain because reasons and then they constantly did mock survival games for fun. It was a needlessly convoluted chapter.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22145807
Two days late, but this post was so spectacularly retarded I wanted to call you a faggot too.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22154774
Those aren't exactly Kappa, those are Yamawaro. Similar but different, they didn't just recently move to the mountains.
Yamawaro playing games isn't exactly what I'd call convoluted.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22154559
shit was fucking weird and the lack of detail in backgrounds, if they existed at all, for the art definitely didn't help

[Anonymous No.]

>>22155342
Reimu walking in the desert while the fairies watch with delight until she suddenly steps on a dead fish which amazes the fairies and causes Star to blink in and out of existence.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22155342
Which post-modern art movement is this?

[Anonymous No.]

The fairies were cuter in the first manga than any other afterwards.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22156122
That's because ZUN told Hirasaka to tone down the sexualization.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22156125
Clearly.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22153223
Not that anon, and I wouldn't say "detailS", but there is one detail that's interesting in that it shows how Reimu is so blessed that fish will rise to the surface to form a bridge from her if she's about to accidentally fall into water without noticing

[Anonymous No.]

>>22150818
So what? "A plot" isn't inherently good or bad, and for what it's worth SSiB's plot is a somewhat convoluted game of one-upmanship wherein several powerful, mysterious types attempt to manipulate simpler characters into doing their bidding, which ultimately consists of not much. The real payoff for the series isn't in SSiB either, but CiLR, and honestly it's not really worth slogging through everything else just to see Yukari say "pranked" to Eirin

While WaHH and FS have rushed endings, the core content of both series ranges from pretty good to amazing/fantastic. I can't say the same for SSiB. I enjoyed aspects of it, but I disliked much more of it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>22154317
>>22154714
>>22154774
ding dong all of y'all are wrong

While there are indeed Yamawaro who have abandoned the river, plain and simple, there were more at the time because river kappa had left due to their hideout being essentially unusable. A Kishin had recently appeared and fucked the place up by creating a mega-spout of water in order to kill Kaku Seiga, the wicked hermit, efficiently. Seiga escaped, but it's not like the Kishin knew that, so the spout remained for a while afterward.

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>>22156188
That kinda has nothing to do with the quality of the art at all, which is what people were talking about. Just saying. Unless this was a subtle stab at the artist because you can barely tell what is even going on during that scene.

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>>22154762
that was just an urban legend

>>22156245
The art in Eastern and Little is bad. I don't know why anyone would argue differently. I think that the artist can do nice work and such, but it's a very sketchy, unfinished-looking thing most of the time. It doesn't surprise me, what with it being the first ever touhou manga and ZUN cared much less about everything.

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I think in order it's...
-FS, the conclusion of Remilia's Chupacabra arc
-One of the fairy manga, specifically the one where a tanuki tries to drink and eat with Reimu on a moon-viewing night. The fairies switched Reimu's dango out with poison mushrooms, but Cirno had also switched those out with ice balls. After eating what she thought were dango, she tripped the fuck out, and was pissed off about it during said trip
-WaHH (hobgobbos)/FS (tupai)
-FS, the inari hood chapters
-I forget which this was but I think it might've been an early chapter of VFiS or a late chapter of OSP. It definitely happened
-WaHH, the chapter where Kasen was raising a shitty pet that was misbehaving badly. It was some lightning creature. Looking into it, apparently she found the guy when a certain tree was struck by lightning? The new home of the fairies that Yukari basically gave to them. That's a neat detail.
-Early WaHH chapter, specifically attacking Myouren temple not exactly just for fun. She said she was mad that they hadn't properly greeted her. She is Ibuki-douji after all. Whippersnapper youkai. Also she didn't "get" drunk, of course; she's always drunk.
-Another early WaHH chapter. The fox was pretending to be Marisa and got free food/drink. It repaid Reimu by basically cursing her, but pretended it wasn't bad by showering her in small gifts. Reimu's an idiot, basically
-WaHH
-Fairy manga. One of the chapters that shows just how little Patchouli cares for Marisa, because she is fucking PISSED that after she gets crushed, of course Marisa went on a stealing bonanza.
-The, I think, OSP chapter where Kasen shows up. I know Kasen was the cameo at the very least.
-SSiB, duh
-Not quite, but she is indeed hired to destroy vines around the fairies' house and she can't. They are too powerful. Culprit was a tsuchinoko, I think
-One of the more hilarious things to have happened in Touhou. This was when Suika had brought Reimu a sake bug-made jar of sake. Eirin steals it from the fairies, who had stolen it from Reimu. Poor Suika is super upset when she finds out her gesture of kindness has been nullified/is briefly upset when she thinks the sake bugs' quality has gone down.
-Eastern and Bright

Couldn't tell you the specific chapters for most of them, though.

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>>22156233
meant to also quote >>22155071

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>>22156329
That's an impressive memory, assuming you didn't go back and search for all of them (which I guess would also be impressive in another sense)

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>>22156466
I looked up the Suika pages I posted, but only because I love Suika. I knew the general location of the chapter. It's 9, if you're curious. New and Old Youkai.

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>>22156233
Dumb kishin almost ruined kappa base like that, and didn't even succeed

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>>22156175
That IS less sexualized

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>>22156175
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The first manga had detail where it counted. Hirasaka gets the rep, but Matsukura would have run laps around him in lewdness if they had stayed on.

Imagine someone who's willing to draw looser clothes in this manner drawing Clownpiece https://mangadex.org/chapter/43381/1

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>>22156175
>>22156568
The first manga had detail where it counted. Hirasaka gets the rep, but Matsukura would have run laps around him in lewdness if they had stayed on.

Imagine someone who's willing to draw looser clothes in this manner drawing Clownpiece https://mangadex.org/chapter/43381/1

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>>22156244
Aah~... I want to marry a yamawaro!

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>>22156329
>-I forget which this was but I think it might've been an early chapter of VFiS or a late chapter of OSP. It definitely happened
It was the very first VFiS chapter. Star put a bunch of bombs in snowmen because she knew Reimu would be too lazy to clean them up one by one and would try to blow them up with danmaku.

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>>22156857
had a feeling it was the first

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>>22155342
Having backgrounds would explain why the fish made a bridge for Reimu? Backgrounds would explain the snow-clearing rock? Backgrounds would make the egg chapter less weird and inconclusive? Backgrounds would make the moon flag make any sense? I think the problem with those is ZUN and not the artist.

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>>22156952
Anon, are you serious?

You can hardly tell what's happening, visually. If anything, the real reason people UNDERSTAND what happened in that sequence is the text of the situation, AKA, ZUN

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>>22157044
What, that one whole speech bubble is what made >>22155342 clear?
No wonder so many /jp/sies dislike the fairy comic though, it's apparently too high brainpower for them.

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>>22157189
I just want to look at fairies but the bad Nemu won't let me.

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>>22157189
It made what happened VISUALLY clear, not the reasoning behind it. Until you can argue that the fish-bridge is clearly depicted as such, stop missing the point and arguing about something else.

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>>22157203
Here, you can look at the fairies on this page instead >>22151711

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>>22157189
Did you not read the manga you're defending?

These speech bubbles did. There's a barebones bg which disappears following this page

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>>22157294
Those explained the fish bridge and Star running away when she notices movement coming up behind the trio?

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>>22157315
They explained the location

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>>22157319
They explained what's clearly visible in those backgrounds the artists supposedly never draws?

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>>22157325
What part of the background is clear to you there?

And no one said they were never drawn. Jesus, you're obnoxious. The actual artist gives less of a shit about all this.

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You know, I think this is the first time I've seen someone trying so hard to defend Matsukura's fairy manga. I thought people just generally agree it could use a redrawing.

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>>22157424
It's more that some guy is using a mention of any aspect of the manga to bring up how bad the art is. The art is shit but you can give it a rest.

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>>22157424
With enough time and people you'll get a fanatic fan of anything.
I myself think the art in question is pretty charming in a way, but this dude is absolutely nuts.

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>>22154317
More things need to be added to this list, like
>An elderly, paraplegic lady defeats every fairy in Gensokyo without ever attacking them

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>>22157689
It is missing some quality stuff
>Reimu kills herself because she was too lazy to make food
>Reimu loses a battle of wits with a fox child
>Youmu gets inflicted by lunacy and attempts to murder everyone at a party, and no one even notices

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>>22158534
You can't mention the former without bringing up how Komachi was this close to having Tenshi's head over it.

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When is it coming out?