/jp/ - Otaku Culture

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

Incredible.

[Anonymous No.]

Scanned with Norton, so it's not a virus. Opening file in Winamp now.

[博麗 霊夢 !1rAyMooPLc No.]

NO FUCK OFF

[Anonymous No.]

I don't use winamp because I'm not a faggot.

[Anonymous No.]

UFO sure is awesome, considering how I went FUCK YEAH just for the third boss I cannot think about final-extra. Also, the system is fun as hell, UFO ROULETTE FUCK YEAH.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2205305
You fucking dumbass.

Anti-virus scanners don't work that way.

[Anonymous No.]

BROFIST

[Anonymous No.]

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=WMRC4OAS

[Anonymous No.]

BORFIST

[Anonymous No.]

Nice to see that we get Master Spark back, but Sanae's shots are surprisingly interesting (and good).

[Anonymous of Austria No.]

>>2205315
Those UFO items get me to fly head-on into the thickest bullet mist just to get my stars.

But summoning a UFO during a boss fight is useless. It immediately flies off-screen and you lose your life/bomb or any items it collected.

Also, Sanae is the best character in the game.
Reimu A and Marisa B (except at close range) are weak.
Sanae has good damage output and optional spread-shot, homing.

second boss last spellcard is/can be hard, and the double nigger spellcard in the OP is rather easy once you've figured out to be about 2 character length above the bottom and move to the bottom after the brofists appear, because their pinky doesn't hit you.

I hate blue saucers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2205351
What fucks me up is 3rd boss' non-spellcards. THEY ARE SO FAST AND THEY MOVE THAT WAY AND OH NO
I'm too busy running from BROFISTS to see any other bullet, though.

[Aoko Aozaki !WU0xSUGOI6 No.]

>>2205351

Yeah, I keep on getting a UFO just before stage 2 boss and it's fucking annoying.

Brofists are hard

[Anonymous No.]

>>2205305
oh wow.
/g/ would like to have a word with you

[Anonymous No.]

>>2205372
Is it me, or is grazing the brofist slightly harder than it looks? Seems like its hit range extends a bit beyond the actual graphic.

[Anonymous No.]

the brofists are awesome

[Suigin !YUsuiginy. No.]

Greatest stage 3 boss ever

>Game runs at 19 fps

OTL

[Anonymous No.]

>>2205377,2
yeah, this shit would already be awesome as final boss, now I really have expectations for the other three characters.

[Anonymous No.]

ZUN's giving his fans brofist?

[Anonymous No.]

>>2205377,4
I think Anonymous Jones mailed ZUN about three days ago. Results were had.

[Suigin !YUsuiginy. No.]

It seems ZUN saw how everyone complained about the new lives system and tried to prove it could be worse

[Anonymous No.]

>>2205343
Is this real or is it a virus?

[Suigin !YUsuiginy. No.]

>>2205377,7
It's real

[Anonymous No.]

>>2205377,8
It said in "English text" that it needed a directx dll. Looks like a virus to me. Thanks asshat.

[Suigin !YUsuiginy. No.]

>>2205377,9
ugh you're an idiot

[Anonymous No.]

>>2205377,9
too bad I can't post reaction images here

[Anonymous No.]

>>2205377,11
Too bad you're a faggot.
Go back to /a/.

By the way, I just tried to do a run on Hard, and I couldn't beat the cute mouse.
Just got 34XXXX score, and that's it.

[Suigin !YUsuiginy. No.]

>>2205377,12
Just wait until you get to Ichirin

[Anonymous No.]

>>2205377,9
>It said in "English text" that it needed a directx dll. Looks like a virus to me. Thanks asshat.
ITT we never played any Touhou game, ever.

[Anonymous No.]

HOLY CRAP, I JUST SAW BROFIST AND I WAS ABOUT TO SAY SOMETHING ABOUT IT, BUT THEN I NOTICED THAT OP PIC ALREADY HAS IT AND YOU ALL ALREADY NOTICED IT

[Anonymous No.]

>>2205377,9
omg u stupid XD

sage for stupid XD

BROFIST
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[Anonymous No.]

Ichirin is awesome.
How many months till we get the full game? ;_;

[Suigin !YUsuiginy. No.]

>>2205377,17
five

[Anonymous No.]

>>2205377,18
well, that's a lot of practice on hard and lunatic

[Anonymous No.]

I just noticed continue doesn't make you start at full power anymore. Well done, ZUN.

[Suigin !YUsuiginy. No.]

I just noticed we don't have practice mode

[Anonymous No.]

So what's up with all the flying UFOs? What do I do with them?

Also, how do I get more lives?

[Anonymous No.]

I just noticed that you guys capitalize your sentences and use proper punctuation. I love /jp/. Many other 4chan boards stopped doing that a long time ago.

[Suigin !YUsuiginy. No.]

>>2205377,22
Get three red UFOs (power up) and you will summon a giant Red UFO (enemy, kill it and grab the two star pieces, get five and you will get a new life.
Do the same with green UFOs to get bombs.

ZUN hates us

[Anonymous of Russian Federation !6907282216 No.]

I sometimes omit full stop at the end of sentence.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2205377,24
Thanks, bro. Gonna try this game again now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2205377,24
Wait, also... What happens when I get blue, red, and green UFOs together?

[Suigin !YUsuiginy. No.]

>>2205377,27
They change the items they suck in, power items will become point items and point items will be power items. This has strategic use in certain stages when there is a lot of power item drops concentrated within a short time span.

[Anonymous Jones ‮[8-FTU] ‪‪‪‬ ‪‬ ‭ !TapsqdZp4A No.]

Hey, AoRF, what's with the DQN-style dating?

[Anonymous of Russian Federation !6907282216 No.]

What are you talking about I don't even

[Anonymous No.]

Is anybody here or is everybody still playing the new Toho?

I got killed on level three by the bro fist. It's good to know ZUN lurks /jp/.

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[Anonymous No.]

so what's the difference in UFO color?

[Suigin !YUsuiginy. No.]

>>2205395
Kill red UFOs to get life-star pieces
Kill blue UFOs to get point items
Kill green UFOs to get bomb-star pieces

[Anonymous No.]

>>2205401
ah, kinda though so. But they need to be full of items before you kill them, no? I sometimes don't seem to get stuff even when they are.

[cyb !!KZ1+uy4Ew9D No.]

>>2205401
tricolors UFOS are ? both ?

[Suigin !YUsuiginy. No.]

>>2205407
Flashing UFOs need them (they change the red items they absorb to blue items and vice versa).
Not sure about the others

[Anonymous No.]

>>2205417
oh, you get an ufo if you take three different colors too? I always got three matching colors

gah, I'm not good at figuring the system out while playing

[Anonymous No.]

When a red UFO fills up it drops a life piece, a green one drops one whole bomb.

When a red UFO dies it drops a life piece, a green one drop a bomb piece.

Not sure about the blue and multicoloured ones.

Also, red, green and blue UFOs clear the screen when they die, multicoloured ones don't.

[Yuyucow !izhBpjwbEg No.]

>>2205417
I'm not sure about the rainbow ones, but they always give a lot of power ups.

[Anonymous No.]

FUCK FUCK

[Anonymous No.]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0EIAsBbRzbw&fmt=22
watch this if you haven't got the demo yet and want to see what it's like

[Anonymous No.]

So are all the shot types good? Or is it still just one good one and the rest aren't so great?

[Anonymous No.]

is dat sum toehoe goatse?

[Suigin !YUsuiginy. No.]

>>2205498
I only liked Sanae A

[Anonymous No.]

>>2205498
Reimu A is weak for a concentrated forward; B is your average homing amulets
Marisa A kills spellcard in seconds and doesn't stop at enemies, also master spark; B is too spread out to do any real damage to bosses unless you're near
Sanae A&B are both awesome, concentrated homing and spread that concentrates when focused.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2205524
Sanae B bomb is also awesome, it's like a goddamn nuke.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2205524
I thought ReimuA is decent, but I always use that type so I'm biased.

[Anonymous No.]

Brofist Danmaku is the best

[Anonymous No.]

>>2205528
Result of the Mountain industrial revolution project.

Nuclear Fusion powered bombs.

[Anonymous No.]

Why did ZUN make reimu b A and vice versa? Not that its an issue since there both there...

[Anonymous No.]

Suwako power is the best, frog napalm and a thermonuclear explosion.

[Anonymous No.]

Thankfully I don't have any preference for the characters this time and can just pick Sanae-A because it's the best, instead of picking Nitori and having a shitty bomb and shitty score potential.

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BRO FIST 4 LYFE

[Anonymous No.]

>>2205608
Nitori's bomb is fine if you aren't one of those faggots who spams bombs to clear annoying spellcards.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2205570
He realized homing shots are for faggots and should be secondary. Just think at Sanae main shot.
new character + homing = newfaggot magnet

[Anonymous No.]

>>2205570
He wants to make Wild Exorcism Dance Reimu's new trademark spellcard.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2205625

This is due nect comicon, right?

[Anonymous No.]

Where's the link for a torrent to download this?
I gave up and went to bed last night.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2205343
Confirmed legit.

Many thanks, anon.

[Anonymous No.]

The UFO system is annoying. Previously you only had to memorize a stage perfectly when you were going for score; now, survival and score both come from the same source, just different colours, so you have to memorize the exact right time to get any kind of UFO so that you can fill them up and whatever they drop will be collectable.

The stages and most of the spellcards seem to be just about entirely twitch-dodging. Whatever happened to streaming and learning spellcards?

The new power system is utterly retarded. You lose an entire power level every time you die, with no way of recovering it (surely LOSING A LIFE is a penalty enough?), and thanks to small power items (and the apparant lack of large ones? I don't think I saw any) now only filling 0.01, unless you died right at the start of the stage you'll probably never get it back by the boss. Losing multiple lives to a boss almost garuntees getting a Game Over, and the continue system is even worse than SA and MoF, as you now start over with MINIMUM power. Frankly, all of this seems uncessesary and only serves as an attempt to drive away newbies, as now any mistakes at all make you even more likely to make further mistakes. Doesn't ZUN realize that the secondary fans are secondary *because* they don't care about the games?

I'll get it when it comes out, sure, but I can't help but feel that this is going to be another game like SA where I only ever am able to see the good ending on Youtube.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2205620
No sir I am not. But it is not fine.

Consider that you can bomb retroactively in touhou anyway, reducing the appeal of a shield/auto-bomb, and other characters can drop bombs and sit on bullet emitters to add hundreds to their graze counter. Aiming to keep the shield up is also worthless because you’re losing point counter every time you get power instead.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2205681
So you complain that the game requires less LEARNAN and MEMORIZAN and more ability.

Huh.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2205681
I think ZUN should just take Daioujou and replace the sprites with touhous for touhou 13

[Anonymous of Austria No.]

>Doesn't ZUN realize that the secondary fans are secondary *because* they don't care about the games?
And they need to fuck off.

[Anonymous No.]

Man, it feels like I've just played Touhou for the first time. This is kicking my ass.

[Suigin !YUsuiginy. No.]

The new power system and life/bomb system is annoying.
But I know after I master it I will be the touhou king

[Anonymous No.]

>>2205704
SA is bloody hard to counterbomb in, and I can do it fine in PCB, MoF and (obviously) IN.

About UFO...All I can say is that the 2nd boss's final card on hard/lunatic looks fuckin amazing. And royally rapes my shit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2205714

>Previously you only had to memorize a stage perfectly when you were going for score; now, survival and score both come from the same source, just different colours, so you have to memorize the exact right time to get any kind of UFO so that you can fill them up and whatever they drop will be collectable.

Oh hey, I guess you just failed reading comprehension 101.

Twitch dodging is boring, especially is that's all there is to do. Approaching a card or wave as a puzzle and gradually working out a better way to get through it is infinitely more enjoyable than twitching through wave after wave of random or semi-random bullets.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2205742
But again, unless you’re certain you’re going to die, you’re not going to use the bomb because of the power and point loss. It’s just a shitty bomb mechanic and no amount of "ur just saying that cus ur a bomb whore" will change that.

>>2205715
You could stop the power-down in daioujou
But you'd only get 1 bomb

[Anonymous No.]

>>2205744
>Boo hoo I suck at twitch dodging

Just play easy mode if you're so horrible

[None !KYON.wwv9s No.]

I found SanaeB to be extremely effective. She's pretty strong, my good girl. I haven't had better luck with the other characters.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2205773

No, you see, that's not what I said.

Twitch dodging IS boring. Every single wave is approached and dealt with in exactly the same manner. I can do it, but it is not fun or enjoyable; there's no flexibility to practice and master a pattern, as the whole thing is just looking for random holes in the bullets and running through. I also fail to see why mediocre-to-average players need gradually to be forced out of a series they enjoy because of arbitrary difficulty hikes. Let me put your question back to you; can't YOU just play on Hard mode if you're so good? Normal Mode has always been a compromise between the intoductory difficulty for newbies and the mastery difficulty for experienced players. As of SA, and it seems this game as well, that compromise no longer exists, and I can see no good reason for the lack when Hard and Lunatic modes both are still present for those who want a more in-depth challenge.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2205681
Seems like ZUN has been spending quite a lot of time in the arcade since MoF.

[Anonymous of Austria No.]

>>2205777
Spread AND concentrated shots sure are awsome. Only the visual presentation after each hit is a bit disturbing.

[Anonymous No.]

So whats the best character so far?
I think Reimu A is mediocre while Reimu B sucks.
Marisa A is awesome for killing of enemies fast but no spread. Marisa B is pretty weak.
Sanae A and B are both pretty strong.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2205681 Whatever happened to streaming and learning spellcards?

[Anonymous No.]

>>2205811
>can't YOU just play on Hard mode if you're so good?
that's what I do!

And I think this game might be the easiest to 1cc if ZUN doesn't change things, seeing as people can get 7 lives by stage 2. Thats pretty insane, as you still get 2 bombs if you die, and the bombs are very powerful. SA was a bit harsh on normal, but don't judge this game after your first impression.

[None !KYON.wwv9s No.]

>>2205886
MarisaA and SanaeB for me.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2205899
Citation please. From my experience it's a lot harder to get lives than in previous games.

[None !KYON.wwv9s No.]

>>2205899
We still don't know how hard is to get extra lives on the latter stages.

[Your Candid Fr !eND/xfY3lY No.]

>>2205922

What do you mean citation? It's easy. Red UFOs, let them fill up with items, two life pieces. You only need 3 this time, so this means every 3 UFOs you can get two lives.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2205922
Collect red UFOs, ignore anything else. When a big UFO appears, kill enough enemies to fill it's bar up and kill it. You get 2 star items, every 3 star items give a live.
Alternatively collect green ones, get 1,33 bombs per UFO, which is also a lot.

The best part in my opinion is that if you want to go for score, the game get's way harder since you have to collect blue UFOs to get more points out of the blue items and miss out on extends and bombs. If you just want to 1cc, your score will suck but who cares.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2205950
Problem is (different person here), I always get myself killed by being distracted trying to get/kill ufos.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2205922
Not really, I suck and if I can get ufos right I'm at level 2 with 4 lives.
I guess ZUN just made scoring and survival mutually exclusive so people can do what they want without trying to break the game. You have easy lives but hard levels.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2205950
What about 3-color UFOs?

[Anonymous No.]

>>2205899

Yeah, you can get more lives than previously (though even this now requires perfect stage memorization, which survival runs never before required).

However, think about how that ties in to the power system, especially for new or less adept players. Losing a life is now crippling on your power and damage for a significant period of time, making you even more likely to lose more lives in that time, crippling you even further, making you even more likely, etc. Although there are more lives available, unless something changes, this system is even more requiring of a perfect run through most than previous games where lives were fewer but deaths were recoverable. As it is, even a single death will mess you up, and multiple deaths before recovering the power loss from the first is devastating to a run.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2205943
True, but you can get a huge stock of lives in the easy stages. Consider IN, you started with 2 extends, got 2 from items and 5 through Point items. Typically you wouldn't hit 7 lives before Stage 5, unless you were really reckless with collecting point items AND didn't die.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2205811
I've just done my first play-through (on Normal) and I have no idea what you're talking about. There is plenty of streaming and learnable patterns, what's really different about UFO (and parts of SA, in fact), is that you have to do both at the same time.

The formula for most of the spell patterns and stages are one bullet source that puts out a nice pattern, and another bullet source that aims bullets at you - forcing you do stream one pattern and at the same time forcing you to move through the previous one.

This is good design. There are so many parts in the older touhou games where all you need to do is nudge your character a few pixels to clear it.

Yeah, it seems like ZUN has been playing a lot of arcade titles. But the game seems all the better for it. All the challenge of SA with all the gimmicky shit removed. And ZUN knows the crowd of people who dislike the new approach would only play the game once on easy and fap to the doujins anyway.

The only two problems I do have so far are:
- Sanae has a wonky hitbox.
- There should be a "dud" UFO enemy if you do the chain wrong, as messing up a chain means you start fighting the UFO at stupid points (or it gets despawned by a boss).

[Anonymous No.]

>>2205922
1. Collect 3 red UFOs
2. FIRST fill it up with items
3. THEN destroy it
4. ???
5. PROFIT

[Anonymous No.]

>>2205968
Eh, I just see it as the game bringing back deathbombing and bombing when you think you will die, instead of making you worry about how much power you lose when you bomb.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2205300

Confirmed legit. Thanks anon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2206004
Not really, because now you have to either decide whether to go for lives our bombs. If you're effective enough with getting lives you'll just want to die to get your bomb stock back.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2206004
This too. SA bombs were very unforgiving, they did little damage or had horrible range and drained your power meter. I always liked the old system more, but in the old system power items were worthless after Stage 2. Since they were replaced with point items when you were at full power it didn't really metter though.

[Anonymous No.]

Just played this on Normal as SanaeA. Difficulty is easier than SA. Got a shitload of extends from red UFOs, is there any reason to get green UFOs? Why don't some UFOs change color?

I liked the level 3 boss noncards best.

[Anonymous No.]

How many times has this been reposted yet?

[Anonymous No.]

>>2206039
>easier than SA
wat

[Anonymous No.]

>>2206004

It could have done that perfectly well by simply going back to the old bomb system. For people trying to survive, losing a life is enough of a penalty, and for people trying to score bombs need to be saved for the highest-yield bomb spots. Like this, missing even a single deathbomb is a major screwup of the run, and even if you do manage it you only have two bombs per life, further encouraging the nessecity of a perfect run. Indeed, to replenish your depleted bomb stock requires a death, which significantly reduced your power in exactly the same vein as bombing did in SA and MoF.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2206039
Non-blinking UFOs don't change color. Just pay attention to them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2205300

Whoa, am I the first to realize that the Stage 3 Boss theme mp3 is in this picture?

Who cares about you fags, I now have this song to listen to whenever I want.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2206052
I've only compared Normal difficulty. UFO Normal feels like standard Touhou Normal. SA Normal feels like standard Touhou Hard.

>>2206071
So it's just scripted that some don't blink?

>>2205978
100% true. ZUNs skills are definitely improving.

[Anonymous No.]

This whole UFO collecting shit pisses me off, quite frankly.

I think I need to spend some time with EoSD for a while.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2205978 But the game seems all the better for it. All the challenge of SA with all the gimmicky shit removed. And ZUN knows the crowd of people who dislike the new approach would only play the game once on easy and fap to the doujins anyway.

I'm sorry, but that's bullshit. I enjoy playing the Touhou games, but I'd be the first to admit that even after significant amounts of practice I'm still only a mediocre to average player. There is no reason why the game's normal mode needs to be so challenging; people who need more challenge can play the harder difficulties, while still allowing the less adept players to enjoy playing the game. All this does is drive away people who previously enjoyed the games but are being pushed away due to the continued hiking up of the difficulty. Normal mode is no longer a compromise between a complete newbie and someone with significant STG experience, and there's no reason why it shouldn't be.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2206039
>Why don't some UFOs change color?
Maybe to prevent people from collecting way too many of the same color and/or control the flow a bit.
Like when you have no other UFOs and a static one appears you might collect it anyway and collect a straight of that color or a rainbow. It would help you either way since destroying the big UFO clears the screen of bullets.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2206065
No, dieing is actually less of a screw up than in previous games, because you simply get more lives. Yes, falling a level in power is bad, but it won't screw you irreversibly even if you like to think that. Dieing with a full bomb stock has always been a disaster.

[Anonymous No.]

Bring back my .07 P POWER , ZUN

.01 IS FUCKING RAGEEEEEEEE

[Anonymous No.]

So what makes you fight mousegirl anyway?
She wants to get the treasure from the UFOs?

She's FROM the UFO's?

[Anonymous No.]

>>2205968
>perfect stage memorization
What?! All you need to remember is what colour UFO to pick up, and that if you mess up the colour, to make sure the next randomly coloured one is neither the target colour or what you've picked up already. And each stage has, what, 4-5 sets of UFO's?

That is not exactly the kind of hardcore stage memorization you would normal associate with a score run. Not even close, in fact.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2206082
Well, it's certainly harder on easy. I at least can compare that, since I suck.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2206100
>Normal mode is no longer a compromise between a complete newbie and someone with significant STG experience

Um, yes it still is. I think you should reevaluate your owns skills. Most arcade shooters are harder than touhou hard mode actually.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2206047
Fix'd.

[Anonymous No.]

UFO generation is completely fixed.
Certain enemies drop UFOs, no variability. They will always start at the same color. Non-blinking ones will also never change color.
Defeating a UFO will create a blinking one of the same color. Which means that 3 non-blinking blue UFOs can still bring you a step closer to a red UFO. I don't know what color you get from the blinking large UFOs. That might be random.


Does anyone know if power items collected at full power do anything special, like in EoSD? There's so many damn items I;ve never been able to see the score increase

[Anonymous No.]

>>2206119
Uhh, no it's not. Just because arcade shmups are harder it doesn't mean it's a good compromise between skill levels.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2206128
That's the point of rainbow UFOs. To convert power items into point items.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2206112

No, it doesn't screw you "irreversibly", but it does make a card that you die on, as well as everything after it, significantly harder. Particularily for the less strong player - which I get the dictinct impression you are not one of - this is likely to lead to more deaths, further weakening you and leading to more deaths. Sure, you get more lives, but losing many of them at a single point is much more likely than it was before. The only way to avoid that spiral is to either be good enough to never die again before you recollect all the lost power - which takes significantly longer than ever before - or to attempt to play a perfect run.

[Anonymous No.]

Aya will be the stage 4 boss.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2206100
If you look at the parts of my post you haven't quoted, I put forwards some points why I prefer this style.

If STGs weren't challenging I wouldn't play them. Most of the people who play STGs feel the same, if they didn't they have an awesome selection of far better presented games to choose from released every week.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2206132
I mean is that the only way to get anything out of power items past 4.0? Do they just give 10 points if collected normally?
It's hard to get a use out of power items like that when they're mixed in with point items.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2206131
It just seems that you aren't on "normal" level, but are unable to admit it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2206047
Needs more brofist

[Anonymous No.]

>>2206149
And that's why there's 4 difficulty levels, to spread it out. If the difficulty is TOO steep it begins to simply become frustrating.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2206115

Failing to memorize the stage around the UFO and the exact right point to collect will result in either being unable to fill it or being unable to shoot it down/ collect the power ups due to a boss appearing or because of dense danmaku. Hell, you even have to know the exact paths through the bullets to follow to be in a position to collect them in some parts, as they change direction arbitrarily rather than bouncing off of walls.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2206160
It seems like you can't back up your shitty argument.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2206136
If you die and lose too much power, just bomb to kill the boss then. The bombs are fucking powerful now. The power loss shouldn't be too much of an issue.

>>2206115
Second. Learning where the UFOs come from isn't that hard. Try taking a screenshot every time one appears from an enemy so you can try to deduce the best way to summon UFOs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2206119
Modern arcade STGs are harder than Touhou Lunatic mode.

UFO is easier than SA if you focus on red UFOs, difficulty is fine as it is. Noobs can play on Easy mode, and the shame of it will encourage them to improve.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2206144
I would rage if that was the case.

The only thing that would redeem it then is if Chiyuri and Yumemi were the stage 5 and 6 bosses

[Anonymous No.]

>>2206149

You are aware that there are multiple difficulty levels, right? There is no reason than the top three all need to be for hardcore experienced players. The jump between Easy and Normal in this and SA is much too steep.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2206175
It's cute because despite you being a better player then me you have no fucking clue what you're talking about.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2206172
My argument is that the 4 difficulties are well spread out. If Lunatic is too hard for me and easy and normal too easy do I bitch and whine about normal being too easy because I set myself as the standard for everyone else? No.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2206183
Please tell me where he is wrong, I'm really curious.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2206176
A translation for Sanae's dialogue was posted on pooshlmer. Ichirin mentions 'ressurecting big sis'. This big sis is probably the stage 6 boss, and almost certainly isn't Yumemi. Expect more fists at the end.

http://pooshlmer.com/wakaba/src/1236534437766.txt.unknown

[Anonymous No.]

>>2206175

Easy mode remains extemely easy. There's no point me playing it, as I can just breeze through without any real effort or room for improvement.

Normal mode in SA and this however, is too hard for me, while that of all the previous Touhous was not. It is no longer a happy medium for improving but still non-expert players, and there is no reason for that other than driving the "unworthy" away from playing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2206200
Well you have to make a cut somewhere. If easy is boring for someone who can't clear normal maybe easy is not balanced well enough.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2206200
Well then, keep playing easy until you can beat it without focusing. Then move to Normal. Create extra difficulty levels to bridge the gap if you need to.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2206191
Normal shouldn't be arcade difficulty, hard should be arcade difficulty and lunatic should be about arcade hard/lunatic/whatever (inb4 millions of posts arguing about comparison in difficulty across games). That's the way all past Touhou have been, for the most part.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2206191

They are not spread out. It used to be that a new player could get used to the games on Easy for a little, then practice Normal for a week or so and clear it, gradually getting better all the while. Now, Normal is such a significant step up, as opposed to the gradual increases of previous games, that there is a skill level of player who is simply being left out in the cold.You are evidently significantly above this skill level, so I'm not sure why you consider yourself an authority on the situation for people who aren't.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2206200
I really can't see where UFO normal is as hard as PCB normal. Maybe you're just not used to it yet?

[Anonymous No.]

>>2206225
>It used to be that a new player could get used to the games on Easy for a little, then practice Normal for a week

because you clearly practiced UFO for a week.
Spend some more time with it before you call it out.

[Anonymous No.]

All right, I just played through the demo on normal. I love it, but is it me or is the difficulty unbalanced?

[Anonymous No.]

>>2206228
Are you kidding? PCB normal was a joke. Keep in mind these are only the first three stages of UFO. The first three stages in PCB were easy on Lunatic.

Also, Sanae is broken. Reimu's homing ability with Marisa's damage?

[Anonymous No.]

>>2206216

I can. I can beat easy without focusing, I can beat it without bombing, I can beat up upside down and inside out. What I can't do is then graduate onto normal and manage to get a quarter as far even with significant practice, which I was able to do on all the previous games; doesn't that seem to suggest that the balance has been altered to you?

[Anonymous No.]

You guys do realize that the difficulty is ramped up in the demo as it usually is, right?

Remember stage 3 in the SA demo?

[Anonymous No.]

Oh please, I can already beat Lunatic without losing a single life. You fags need to practice more.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2206250
Well then, practice. Or try a different character.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2206260

[Anonymous No.]

>>2206237

True, but I'm not a new player, am I? The only games other than this I ever needed to practice for that long was my very first.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2206246
what. Alice on lunatic was easy? Surely you jest.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2206260
Yes, why didn't I think of that before, you brilliant genius you.

[Anonymous No.]

I can't beat the demo on easy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2206246
"Kimontonkou" and "Benevolent Orléans Dolls" are not easy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2206199
>>Ichirin mentions 'ressurecting big sis'

HOLY SHIT STAGE 6 BOSS IS YUYUKO AND THE UFOS ARE COLLECTING ALL THE CHERRY PETALS

[Anonymous No.]

>>2206275
Most of her difficult patterns are static.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2206294
FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK

I WILL FUCKING PROCLAIM ZUN AS MY GOD IF HE HAS THE BALLS TO DO THIS

[Anonymous No.]

>>2206250
Well, I don't exactly know what you're doing, so do what you do in every other touhou: save replays and look where you messed up.

Seeing as you really need to pay more attention in UFO, as in collect the right UFO pieces, it's easy to get a game over if you don't know what to do. Once you know, it should be pretty easy to hog some lives in stage 1 and 2.

[Anonymous of Croatia !na1byG1GU. No.]

>>2206285
Same here, but i only played it once and then started fapping to mouse ass.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2206266

I do, and without much luck. Normal was always a direct progression from Easy prior to SA, but now it's at a point where a player's skill get too high for practice on Easy to have any real effect but still too low to have any chance with trying Normal. Since that certainly wasn't previously the case, I'd conclude that the difficulties are getting less well spread out than they were before, and that is a problem for a significant subset of players.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2206275
Predictable patterns with no quirky shit like Yuugi or Brofist.

Also, it goes without saying that PCB was the easiest Touhou period, mainly thanks to the borders. Even IN with its deathbombing was harder.

[Suigin !YUsuiginy. No.]

Didn't Mima want to ressurect too?

/mimafag

[Anonymous No.]

>>2206271
>>2206276

It's called memorizing the patterns, which is what you need to do with EVERY Touhou game. You can't just pick it up and beat it in one go.

If you're too lazy to memorize the patterns, you shouldn't be playing Touhou games.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2206319

Hey, I just realized something. There's both a "Yami" and a "Yuugi" character in Touhou.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2206329
Hey thanks captain obvious.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2206317
Then train on pre-SA Touhous. The skills are obviously transferable, as those who played early Touhous on Hard or Lunatic are having no problems with UFO.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2206319
Easiest Touhou on the highest 2 difficulties, sure, but PCB easy was more like normal for the rest of them, and PCB normal was just right.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2206332

Undefined Fantastic Object? Moar like Alice in Outerspace Land.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2206260
Hurr durr. You suck bro, I beat it on Lunatic on the first try without using a single bomb or losing a life.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2206334
to be fair, he's only talking about normal.

I still disagree with the notion that UFO normal is anywhere as hard as SA normal.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2206341
Yeah, I'd say PCB easy is like 3rd hardest now, after UFO and SA.

[Anonymous No.]

Guys, just use Cheat Engine.

Infinite lives FTW

[Anonymous No.]

>>2206343

Ha, you think you're such a hotshot? I bet you used more than one finger in that run, AND you probably weren't blindfolded like I was.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2206341
I still thought normal on PCB was easier. Don't get me wrong, PCB was great and all- it just wasn't that hard compared to the other Touhous.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2206323
I wish you hadn't started using a name in here, I can't dislike someone who likes Mima.

How did you guys get tonberry's email password? Dumb recovery question or he just had a really easy one?

[Anonymous No.]

>>2206169
Yeah, these systems are punishing to mistakes. But it's still not perfect stage memorization, it's about five sets of colours per stage.

I'll make a list and post it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2206354
That's pretty hardcore bro.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2206354
I did a lunatic pacifist run with my penis.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2206356
Well I felt like PCB was much harder than IN and MoF when I first cleared it. EosD didn't run on my old computer and SA wasn't out yet.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2206352

CHEAT ENGINE USERS UNITE

[Anonymous No.]

>>2206356
Then you obviously didn't have as much trouble with stages 4 and 5 as the rest of /jp/. The prismrivers are a regular source of rage around here, and Youmu rapes plenty of people too.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2206378
On normal they didn't really bother me, although Youmu usually still managed to kill me once or make me waste a few bombs. Bitch is harder than Yuyuko.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2206366

With your penis? WITH YOU PENIS? Where I grew up, only elementary school kids were allowed to do Lunatic Pacifist runs with their penises. When I downloaded the game, I decompiled and memorized the code and did a dry-run Lunatics Pacifist No-Focus run in my head.

[Anonymous No.]

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[Anonymous No.]

Only on the full platinium version

[Anonymous No.]

Fuck this new system is confusing

I no longer have any idea how many lives or bombs I have or what do I have to do to get more

[Anonymous No.]

>>2206398

[Anonymous No.]

>>2206398
I love you guys.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2205704
Fuck the graze counter, I'm not a scorefag. Playing on Lunatic and just trying to stay alive is more fun to me.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2206414
what the fuck is this crap?

[Suigin !YUsuiginy. No.]

>>2206363
Easy question.
It wasn't as retarded as Dazz's though.

[Anonymous No.]

Confirmed for Extra boss.

[Anonymous No.]

Protip:
You don't loose all of your power on death but only 1.00
You also get a lot of power in stage 3 so it's more like stage 1 and 2 have an emphasis on you having only your default attack. And you actually kill stuff there with only the default attack power.

[Anonymous No.]

Currently getting continue'd on the first boss on Easy mode. I wish I was kidding.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2206435
Your mom.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2206449

[None !KYON.wwv9s No.]

>>2206448
>only 1.00

That's still a lot, considering power items only give you 0.01 power.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2206449
Well, I'm not that bad, but I completely sympathize, I can't beat the stage 3 boss on easy.

[Anonymous of Croatia !na1byG1GU. No.]

>>2206459
Wow why does she suddenly look so sexy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2206467
It's based on a shot of Desu from Rozen Maiden. Take that as you will.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2206462
300 power items to full power, 100 lost when you die.

[Anonymous No.]

well, I managed to 1cc normal the same day of release, on to hard.
I've been playing touhou for two months now, considering how at first I couldn't even clear the first level of SA without game over I feel great.

[Anonymous No.]

I'm currently just hoping that the difficulty will be cranked back a notch and that the power system will be reevaluated for the final release. There's no reason why four difficulty settings shouldn't be able to cater to players of all skill levels.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2206497
they are

[Anonymous No.]

>>2206414

[Anonymous No.]

>>2206497
4 difficulties cater to players of 4 skill levels

[Anonymous No.]

>>2205343
Why isn't this working? Tells me to reinstall some shit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2206566
Go download the newest DirectX from microsoft. It asked me to do that too.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2206449
>>2206466
You guys make me feel pro. And I know there are fags out there a lot better than me too (1cc Lunatic niggers particularly).

[Anonymous No.]

>>2206595
Glad you feel like a pro, bro.

[ZUN !barYV1VtIA No.]

I just slept for 11 hours for some reason.

Time to download the demo.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2206595
1cc SA lunatic with 5 lifes left fag here

[Anonymous No.]

>>2206584
Or use the DirectX that comes with the demo.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2206618
Fuck you and such. It took me forever to 1cc Hard on SA.

[Anonymous No.]

S: Ahh...
S: This is youkai extermination, isn't it!
S: ...... It seems kinda fun.

Sanae gets turned on by killing things. Yandere sanae on the horizon?

[Anonymous No.]

>>2206584
Thanks bro.

[Anonymous No.]

Hey guys, I'm getting my ass handed to me in Mushihime-sama. Like, really bad.
Should I bitch and moan about how Cave sucks and should fix the difficulty level, or should I just admit that I fucking suck at their games?

[Anonymous No.]

>>2206558

Were you out of class when they explained the difference between discete and continuous data?

[Anonymous No.]

>>2206550
You know you haven't blanked out enough of the character list for there to be a 4th name added to it?

[Anonymous No.]

>>2206624
quit your job > train more

You can do it soon

[Anonymous No.]

>>2206630

Were you fine with all of the previous games and only recently have found yourself unable to play? In that case, yeah, sounds like they've messed up the difficulty levels and are driving old but not so adept players away from their games.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2206630
Mushihime isn't as hard as everyone makes it out to be. Most of you niggers just watched the YouTube videos and have never actually played the damn game. Your hitbox is literally 2 pixels wide and 2 pixels tall from what I can tell.

And yes, I get the reference you're making to faggots bitching about the difficulty.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2206636
Oh, just shut up. If you had been playing Normal all this time, instead of trying to illustrate your point it's too hard, you would've cleared it by now.

[Anonymous No.]

UFO Normal is not too hard, except for one or two spells who could be overpowered. Just bomb them and leave the clearing for when you're better at dodging.
You guys are paying too much attention to the UFOs and forgetting to dodge.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2206667
A more valid point is that most poeple have only seen Ultra mode, not Maniac or Original. Everyone knows the hitbox is tiny.

[Anonymous No.]

So has anyone figured out how the bloody hell you're supposed to capture Nazrin's last spell card on hard/lunatic? The stupid diamonds drop bullets literally less than half a second away from hitting you with such tiny gaps that I'd have trouble fitting through them if I had time to react.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2206683
This.
the game is lolz easy modo on normal. I only die when I try to fool arount with the ufos for maximum points

[Anonymous No.]

>>2206676

I'm not saying that it's too hard, I'm saying that the difficulty spread has changed for the worse; Easy is too easy and Normal is too hard. I have cleared normal, but not without using up most of my bombs and lives; I doubt I could clear six stages at that difficulty, much like SA, and that is a problem which has only been recently introduced, whether then Hard- and Lunatic-playing ZUN Defense Squad want to awknowlege that or not..

[Anonymous No.]

>>2206697
I played arrange modo 4 times and got to the TFB.
Now watch as I bitch and moan about maniac being too hard and needing autobomb.

[Anonymous No.]

anyone figured out how to do brofists last card on lunatic?

[Anonymous No.]

STGfags are worse than tourneyfags.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2206722
ESoD didn't even give you the full game on Easy.
IN had a very drastic jump on from Easy to Normal.
PCB was rubbish with a ton of difficulty overlap.
MoF was better but famously the Easy version of the hardest card in the game, the final one, is harder on Easy than Normal.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2206766
>Hardcore STGfags are worse than tourneyfags

Fix'd.

>>2206697
This too, but when comparing it to Touhou it's definitely worth noting that your hitbox is literally less than half the size.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2206766

What's worse than both of those combined is anyone who perpetuates the myth that SA on normal is somehow more difficult than the rest of the series on normal.

[Anonymous of Austria No.]

Stage 3 Lunatic is a bitch
"this game is full of unavoidable shit"
The fastest shots ever seen in Touhou, aimed, 6 to 8 bullets per shot, and no graze possibility, combined with slow spread shots that trap you if you don't dodge them the second they are shot.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2206700
Don't play hard or lunatic.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2206700
Move in closer so the diamonds go behind you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2206700
>>2206931
Like you did in IN against marisa's lasers.

Damn, old pattern is old.