/jp/ - Otaku Culture

[Anonymous No.]

When did exactly Type-Moon lose all of its soul?

[Anonymous No.]

When it stopped being a doujin group

[Anonymous No.]

You know well what the answer is

[Anonymous No.]

Maybe it was when Nasu decided to pull half of Tsukihime's plot from Kizuato and mix it with some of Kara no Kyoukai.

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>>21851858
>this meme again
You should try actually reading Kizuato sometime. Oh wait, you can't because you're an EOP.

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>>21851877
I have read it.

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>>21851946
Then you should know better. They're not really alike beyond surface plot that sets the stages. Putting aside the fact that the first person to spread it around repeated inaccurate details about the plot - which is pretty hard evidence that he never read it himself -
it's more important that although the games share superficial similarities (half of which is a common trope throughout many works), the vast majority of the games diverge and cover different themes, ideas, etc etc to the point comparing them is ridiculous. Kizuato is really bare bones and has no flavour to it really, nothing like the nasuverse and the crazy shit that goes down in Tsukihime. There's just enough similarities to make memes but to anyone who's read both they couldn't be more different.
Like, the reveal of the real murderer in Kizuato is borderline pathetic and the whole thing is really freaking weird and offputting:The murderer just happens to be a cousin of the MC, nothing deep to it just an illegitimate child. His real identity is the detective assistant you see like once in the whole game before the reveal. His murderer motive is just that he was lonely with no friends except one guy befriended him (his neighbor), and then that one guy got raped in the ass by his (male) debtor/master cause he tried to escape from him. That's it. That's the whole main villain, whoopdeedoo. Whereas SHIKI's dual nature with Roa and all that about the Dead Apostles is really interesting in a chuuni kind of way. I mean, compare the Nanaya clan and all that toa clan descended from a pissed off samurai who half-raped a goddamn alien girl who got stuck on earth cause her and a bunch of other alien's ship fucked up when it crashed. I wouldn't go so far as to call Kizuato trash or anything but it's really not good at all, and nothing comparable to Tsukihime past the initial setup.

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>>21851969
You say they couldn't be more different, but it just sounds like you liked Nasu's version of Kizuato more than the original.

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>>21852008
I don't think that Nasu was influenced is something of debate, they do share similarities with the set up. But, where the games go with it, and pretty much everything else about them, is incredibly different.

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>>21851946
>>21851877
>>21851858
Where can I actually find a copy of kizuato?

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>>21851858
This. Tsukihime's MC literally just has a worse version of Kara no Kyoukai's MC power.

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>>21838668
Was Nasu even good in the first place?/

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****/***** *****

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>>21856070
>****/**** *****
Don't mention it in my presence

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>>21856100
s-sorry

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>>21856100
>>****/**** *****
Why are you grossly misquoting the post you are replying to?

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>>21851946
What am I doing wrong?

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Do you guys know of more places where TM is referenced? I remember a screenshot from some what I think must have been a moe anime with a girl in a bikini doing the Ciel pose with sticks also

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>>21838668
>Type-Moon
>soul

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>>21857954
Mahoyo, KnK, and Tsukihime were pretty alrigh
Fag/Shit night did so much damage to them, and to be fair it was pretty shit to begin with. Easily the worst of Nasus works and the shitty shonen-esque atmosphere did a great job drawing in casuals like moths to a flame.

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>>21859408
FSN has more in common with Mahoyo and Tsukihime in tone than it does with modern Fate stuff. I think you might be projecting back stuff that wasn't there.

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>>21859491
It's not AS bad as modern Fate shit, but having played it recently it definitely is a far cry from them. It feels way too shonen-y.

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>>21838668
Where is the bottom row from?

>>21856001
Having read Tsukihime and watched the KnK movies after reading FSN I think the bad stuff was always there but there was more of the good stuff. The mood is so much better in Tsukihime and KnK.

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>>21856662
It's funny how much of Japanese computer terminology is just English words in katakana.

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>>21862376
>I think the bad stuff was always there but there was more of the good stuff

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>>21838668
Soulposting should be a bannable offense.

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>>21864437
t. soulless husk

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>>21838668
Soul
>>21864437
Soulless

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>>21864437
Why?

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>>21859598
I wonder why it felt 'shonenish' when the MC is litteraly a hero of justice wannabe

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>>21859598
>>21866115
>shonen
You mean it felt like something a middle-schooler would like? Maybe someone in their second year of middle school?

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>>21866957
It's all chuuni though KnK, Tsukihime, FSN. Don't know where you're going with this. Maybe Mahoyo not as much but the difference isn't that significant.

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>>21866957
It started out as a highshooler writting what he liked/thought cool

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>>21866979
I think you're misunderstanding something

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>>21838668
July 30, 2015. All the answers from everyone else are all retarded memes that can go fuck off. Never have I seen such surface-level "criticisms" towards any Type-Moon works as in this thread. Jesus Christ.

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They told me this board was free of /v/ faggotry, but I guess it isn’t

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>>21871315
What exactly are you referring to? And I mean, whoever told you that was wrong from the getgo. Otaku culture is intrinsically tied to video games. Its only natural one would bleed into the other.