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#DJT - #2221 Anonymous Sun Jul 28 15:06:12 2019 No.21777184 [Reply] [Original]

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>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 28 15:08:18 2019 No.21777194 >>21777184 Stop making threads before the previous one is dead. Understand? Make a new thread when you can't post in the old one anyone. Also >>>/v/

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 28 15:12:32 2019 No.21777212 smoke weed to learn japanese faster

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 28 15:22:53 2019 No.21777266 hoes mad

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 28 15:41:06 2019 No.21777330 File: 3.93 MB, 2607x4000, 20190728-rtk-combined-small.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Another day, more RTK.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 28 15:49:26 2019 No.21777368 >>21777362 why do you post this ridiculous scribble every thread

Anonymous Sun Jul 28 17:48:15 2019 No.21778095

>>21777987
You should use some of those Easy German videos on Youtube for sentence mining. They've got people being interviewed out on the street on common subjects, and two sets of subtitles (English and German).
You can add audio to them through the qm anime card method.
They've got a sister channel named Easy Languages where you can get the same sort of videos for just about any language. Here's one in Japanese: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D8A2q3awnsU

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 28 18:08:52 2019 No.21778194 >>21778062 I don't think I ever counted, but a good few depends on who made it, sometimes yes very, mainly not really but the dick don't care Alicesoft is my favorite, Rance is a top tier series

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 28 18:17:22 2019 No.21778218 >>21777896 The day we get a Matt-level guy who says he got fluent by using this guide will be the day I will endorse it. Till then, I'll believe that AJATT "simply works better".

Anonymous Sun Jul 28 18:21:18 2019 No.21778245

>>21777330
I know some people seem to really oppose RTK, but I'm going to keep posting these in every thread, and I hope that in time I'll overcome my Parkinson's disease and be able to write neatly with my brushes, and hopefully eventually transition into actual calligraphy. At the very least it would be nice if I inspired a few others to share their own writing work too.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 28 18:57:27 2019 No.21778461 i gave up japanese for fallout new vegas. i think i'm going with an explosives build this run.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 28 18:59:16 2019 No.21778468 >>21778245 that would kinda suck since RTK shouldn't be encouraged because beginners inevitably misconstrue what it's useful for (which for a beginner is virtually nothing).

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 28 19:04:14 2019 No.21778506 >>21778499 >reading the book would only further misguide them are you willing to actually elaborate on this

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 28 19:27:08 2019 No.21778616 File: 484 KB, 579x625, new guide.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] btw 45th for

Anonymous Sun Jul 28 19:32:40 2019 No.21778636

>>21778618
oh and
>All you did is assert some other way was better, without stating what or how.
yeah just learn nihongo lmfao did u need someone to tell u that or can u not fathom the idea that u dont have some kind of dedicated chinese house study method as part of ur routine

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 28 19:39:20 2019 No.21778668 File: 11 KB, 400x400, 初音ミク.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] dude if it brings you closer to learning japanese then do it

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 28 19:49:14 2019 No.21778709 >>21778697 neither i learned another european language to C2 level in the course of 3 years (C1 in 2) through self-study, effort, and only after the first full year, immersion

Anonymous Sun Jul 28 20:29:14 2019 No.21778867

>>21778842
>it's bad because it's harder and takes long to remember how to write a character than to recognize it
yes but writing also entails reading and stronger connections than if you only ever learn recognition style (source: China and Japan's curious literacy issues due to prevalence of computerisation) which is surely valuable when you have to make up for not having compulsory immersion and from-scratch output as a child at initial exposure to all concepts

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 28 20:30:23 2019 No.21778871 >>21778867 >which is surely valuable you're better off reinforcing lazy kanji connections with reading than double or triple the time required to write them.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 28 20:45:48 2019 No.21778928 makopi do you still maintain that moenigger is the best in this thread after he said "i had a 空気を読む"?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 28 20:47:58 2019 No.21778936 >>21778900 tfw i'm too low iq to do cs 102 stuff

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 28 20:49:39 2019 No.21778944 >>21778907 we all are studying with the best method already, so there's no need to talk about it

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 28 20:50:03 2019 No.21778945 >>21778936 u prob dont even need 100 iq to install gentoo

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 28 21:01:12 2019 No.21778990 update on my ass everything is fine now

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 28 21:10:24 2019 No.21779032 >>21779031 no

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 28 21:11:49 2019 No.21779037 Get your moralfagging ass out of here right now before I beat the kanji out of your head and rape your ass with my chinchin btw yes im a good person

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 28 21:12:17 2019 No.21779040 >>21779031 probably not but i am at least very nice to people i like and not mean to people i don't

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 28 21:15:05 2019 No.21779052 my brain is starting to evolve to deal with the increased burden

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 28 21:15:58 2019 No.21779055 >>21779050 nah you're a terrible guy, unless you play mahjong with me and the other guy then you're alright

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 28 21:32:54 2019 No.21779112 >>21779090 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YVkUvmDQ3HY&t=100

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 28 21:49:27 2019 No.21779177 >>21779174 wtf there's cute girls involved?!

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 28 21:50:52 2019 No.21779180 >>21779050 Shut the fuck up no you aren’t you tryhard manchild.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 28 21:54:12 2019 No.21779198 >>21779174 why arent u playing majung en nihongo ?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 28 21:54:42 2019 No.21779201 >>21779174 I don't give a fuck about mahjong at all, but I love that character's voice.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 28 21:55:15 2019 No.21779204 >>21779200 lmfao seethe

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 28 22:03:21 2019 No.21779245 Post what you're listening to right now Me: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JuzeEEQjPqY

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 28 22:05:24 2019 No.21779257 >>21779254 > there's a vertical relationship between me 'n anyone from this thread in terms of japanese proficiency? of course that's true. who are you bullshitting?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 28 22:05:53 2019 No.21779262 >>21779245 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7M0SQu_FLUs&t=26

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 28 22:27:52 2019 No.21779368 >>21779364 it's your silly phrasing that generated that "battle" tho

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 28 22:27:59 2019 No.21779369 File: 49 KB, 340x200, 1562270560827.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>21779366

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 28 22:30:48 2019 No.21779380 File: 61 KB, 1280x720, q.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] me destroying qm in a battle of wits.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 28 22:35:54 2019 No.21779396 damn that other ever17 anon was right about the skipping being slow af took me 40 mins just to get to a new scene

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 28 22:41:22 2019 No.21779415 >>21779404 well i was tryin to say whatever he seems to be talkin about is prob still vertical hes just nitpicking cuz we dont have assigned company titles lol also daily english thread is just a djt tradition

>>	moenigger Sun Jul 28 22:46:52 2019 No.21779438 cant be helped if shouneniggers quit the brutally difficult journey of rtk 1

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 28 22:47:38 2019 No.21779442 >>21779431 >what that if you don't do it you won't learn anything? if you're able to respond to my post more charitably i will respond in kind but since you've started it off being dishonest i can't bother

Anonymous Sun Jul 28 22:51:56 2019 No.21779463

>>21779442
your argument is that people end up taking forever to do it, from what i can tell. but that's not really an argument against rtk itself, because rtk is not uniquely difficult. it's just a claim that people don't have the ability to do it properly. which everyone knows is true because most learners are retarded. you could claim the same about any method since so few people have ever gotten good, especially in a reasonable timeframe

Anonymous Sun Jul 28 23:00:47 2019 No.21779493

>>21779463
my argument is that rtk is so tedious that few people who even attempt it make it through and it causes some of those people to quit japanese entirely. so even if it increased efficiency it would really only be the case for a very select few people. i'm not sure what the point of selling rtk as this amazing efficient method is if the vast majority of your audience could never actually do it.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 28 23:01:49 2019 No.21779498 >>21779487 He might. Holy fuck I hate listening. It's weeks later and I still cannot stand it. Oh my god why didn't you warn me it'd be this difficult relative to reading. I bet Calvin gets triple the amount of listening per day that I do.

>>	moenigger Sun Jul 28 23:03:53 2019 No.21779507 File: 1.54 MB, 1600x900, file.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>21779498 just watch kawaii anime

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 28 23:04:49 2019 No.21779510 File: 895 KB, 800x600, file.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>21779487 well i dunno about anyone else in this thread but i'll learn japanese don't worry! i think japanese gf guy and quiz will def make it too

Anonymous Sun Jul 28 23:08:00 2019 No.21779519

>>21779493
and im saying the vast majority of these people may quit literally anything, because they just don't have the patient, intelligence, or capability to learn japanese. there's nothing uniquely annoying about rtk that makes people want to quit, if anything it's easier than other shit because you have a constant feeling of progression even if it doesn't really correspond to learning japanese. getting thrown into the deep end of reading with no skills is much more frustrating than doing rtk for an hour a day.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 28 23:18:58 2019 No.21779565 >>21779548 it probably doesn't feel like that when you're struggling to read single sentences in yotsuba for weeks though. im sure if any of these people who take 2 years to do rtk were to attempt it they would just die on the spot in fact

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 28 23:21:38 2019 No.21779576 damn matt wasnt lying when he said rtk is retarded and kanji recognition is better than production

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 28 23:22:29 2019 No.21779581 what goes through someones mind to think that u can struggle on on yotubato for weeks or that memorizing chinese houses will change that if u could

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 28 23:24:43 2019 No.21779590 i spent 80% of my study reading and listening isn't much of a problem lol, i had 10k hours of anime subbed prior though, obviously

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 28 23:24:54 2019 No.21779592 >>21779581 im saying that people who can't do rtk probably aren't able to learn japanese anyway because it's much easier than learning japanese (as evidenced by the fact noone in this thread has done it)

Anonymous Sun Jul 28 23:29:04 2019 No.21779614

>>21779600
ok he didnt say that specifically, but that’s the general feeling i got when he put up lazy kanji and ditched rtk. though i do feel doing at least the first 500 and a radical deck may be worth it but after that just dont even bother the rtk keywords are retarded anyway

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 28 23:44:52 2019 No.21779666 >>21779656 id rather be european than a gook desu but i just like how the languags sounds in general and i wouldnt say learning japanese is easy for them maybe easier but not easy

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 28 23:45:56 2019 No.21779672 >>21779666 finns are basically gooks tho lol they're mongolian

Anonymous Sun Jul 28 23:48:38 2019 No.21779682

>>21779667
https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E3%83%AC%E3%83%87%E3%82%A3%E3%83%BC%E3%83%9C%E3%83%BC%E3%83%87%E3%83%B3
That makes a lot of sense now. I considered that as a possibility but just assumed my dumb ass wasn't picking up on Engrish for the thousand time. I guess skimming through https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Borden_(company)?oldid=493140698 for any references to a Japanese branch was on track after all.
Thanks a bunch.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 28 23:56:21 2019 No.21779709 >>21779704 cope

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 00:03:16 2019 No.21779728 >>21779689 Finnish is one of those languages that sounds like it'd be cool to tell people you know, but that would probably be difficult as fuck to find tons of compelling content in.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 00:11:26 2019 No.21779755 if my son gay or turn out like moenigger ima beat his ass straight on GOD fr fr

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 00:14:32 2019 No.21779764 spaniards seem to have an easier go on this language

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 00:19:43 2019 No.21779784 >>21779773 you're not the typical person. most would not give two fucks if you told them you knew finnish but they'd be impressed by some 3rd world shithole language like arabic

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 00:32:17 2019 No.21779840 >蜃気楼 >clam atmosphere tower >MIRAGE what the FUCK!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 01:02:45 2019 No.21779922 >>21779476 >Personally I just want someone from this fucking thread to learn Japanese how will you know when that happens

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 01:07:59 2019 No.21779938 >>21779902 i have one of those, it's not nearly as nice as my going-into-games machine though (at least it wasnt as nice before my mom sold it)

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 01:16:46 2019 No.21779953 >>21779924 >>21779929 i’ve read the reviews for all the ones i could find on amazon and according to those buyers they’re shit

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 02:14:14 2019 No.21780109 >>21780072 bluetooth isnt iot though ?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 02:17:43 2019 No.21780120 きょうむしつのモルモットのおしりがなにかびょうきになてるみたいじゅういしにつれていかないと！はやくなおるように

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 02:17:45 2019 No.21780121 >>21780109 It can be used to create a network regardless.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 02:24:09 2019 No.21780139 >>21780121 i just think ur overreacting i mean i think usin bluetooth for that would be shit but im not gonna put it in the same category as wifi connected light bulbs

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 02:31:56 2019 No.21780151 >>21779191 Learn English Dayquandrious

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 02:33:09 2019 No.21780155 >>21779191 lmao fucking esls

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 02:40:26 2019 No.21780172 >want to sign up for jlpt >the responsible organization in my country doesn't even bother picking up the phone >their email address domain is expired >the announcement in their official website is dated back to 2016 Fug

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 03:06:19 2019 No.21780212 the other thread is almost dead maybe op should go ahead and post the next one

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 03:56:19 2019 No.21780295 日本語は迚も無理だ

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 04:09:01 2019 No.21780322 >>21780270 >大丈夫です this is where the real worrying starts.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 04:20:43 2019 No.21780343 人生はいいんだもんな〜

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 04:20:51 2019 No.21780344 いっちょんわからん

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 04:26:37 2019 No.21780355 File: 291 KB, 1122x1496, 1550373990548.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 04:55:36 2019 No.21780409 >>21778810 >doing a speedrun through Tae Kim in one week on any%?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 05:04:12 2019 No.21780427 >>21778476 Bruh

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 05:05:12 2019 No.21780433 >>21780355 looks like gook moot

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 05:09:41 2019 No.21780443 >>21780433 I think you might be onto something.

Anonymous Mon Jul 29 05:15:14 2019 No.21780450

>>21778476
a lot longer than it needs to if you insist on writing everything down like a luddite

the more you try to think about japanese in english, the more you're going to sow the seeds of inevitable confusion in your brain
get the basic gist, don't take anything you read in an english grammar guide too seriously, and just get it over with asap so you can start actually learning the language via listening and reading
don't do more than 500 words of core/[insert shitty pre-made deck here]
don't study kanji beyond learning their radicals, at least not until you get better at japanese and know with familiarity a variety of words which are written them

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 05:18:18 2019 No.21780459 its hirakana

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 05:35:02 2019 No.21780487 its kakimashita in katana

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 06:19:47 2019 No.21780583 File: 17 KB, 800x473, 1563407930997.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] 出来なくなるから、早く辞めるほうがいいよ！

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 07:46:14 2019 No.21780817 >>21780355 this book is a piece of shit and the author is too

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 08:24:52 2019 No.21780966 File: 85 KB, 1920x1080, 1554082372531.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CEZ2zlpcPbM Reminder that documentaries are the optimal way to learn Japanese.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 08:28:49 2019 No.21780976 read a history book

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 08:29:45 2019 No.21780979 have sex guys

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 08:34:32 2019 No.21781011 >>21780979 This. Absorbing nip vaginal fluids is the true way to fluency.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 08:35:04 2019 No.21781012 >>21780979 I have, thousands of times, it's overrated and boring to me now desu

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 08:37:52 2019 No.21781028 he's lying guys don't believe him

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 08:42:19 2019 No.21781049 File: 106 KB, 1421x1022, fu.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] watching matt fuck japanese girls is the true way to fluency

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 08:49:04 2019 No.21781077 >>21781049 so you're saying we're screwed then

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 08:58:23 2019 No.21781107 >>21781049 why if that fat nignog showing her boner to that JK. more importantly why is he in japan

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 09:01:02 2019 No.21781114 >>21781107 Presumably some sort of corporation used some kind of aircraft to bring him there in exchange for some sort of currency.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 09:03:25 2019 No.21781120 >>21781114 Interesting, I wonder how I could make use of methods like that

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 09:03:33 2019 No.21781121 >>21781114 Is this what americans think migrating is like?

Anonymous Mon Jul 29 09:11:23 2019 No.21781156

If I complete Heisig's I and III, study Tae Kim entirely, read the grammar guides and all about particles books, do immersion for a year. After all that will I be able to read classic japanese literature like Mishima, Endo, Kawabata, Yoshikawa etc? How hard are those books exactly? What about really old japanese books like Rin no Go and Genji Monogatari?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 09:12:20 2019 No.21781160 >>21781156 >After all that will I be able to read classic japanese literature like Mishima, Endo, Kawabata, Yoshikawa etc? Simple answer: no.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 09:14:19 2019 No.21781175 >>21781156 I made it to "Heisig" and whatever it is that you were asking, I'd say no.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 09:15:01 2019 No.21781181 >>21781156 lol if it were that simple every weeb would be fluent in japanese by now

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 09:16:22 2019 No.21781191 >>21781160 What's the non-simple answer, friend?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 09:20:19 2019 No.21781214 >>21781156 you failed to account for the most important thing, vocab.. without a vocab of at least 10k, but prolly more like 20k, all of that other stuff is pointless

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 09:28:36 2019 No.21781254 >>21781214 definitely closer to 30k for mishima at least i haven't tried reading the others.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 09:28:48 2019 No.21781256 I 祠, therefore I 日本語

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 09:36:21 2019 No.21781299 >>21781156 断じて no

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 09:45:11 2019 No.21781333 >>21781214 Vocab comes with immersion, am I wrong? >>21781235 Wow, is it really that hard? Is old japanese so different from modern japanese like english and old english?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 09:52:03 2019 No.21781358 >>21781333 how much time do you have each day to read and listen?

>>	moenigger Mon Jul 29 09:52:14 2019 No.21781360 File: 1.16 MB, 1600x900, file.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] she said it

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 09:57:24 2019 No.21781376 >>21781360 quality subs

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 10:04:21 2019 No.21781403 >>21781393 dw im on my way there im about to start a masters in translation at a world top 20 uni so ill be the one people are complaining about on /a/ soon

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 10:06:36 2019 No.21781414 >>21777184 When did we start putting hashtags before DJT? Who the hell is responsible for this?

Anonymous Mon Jul 29 10:07:31 2019 No.21781418

>>21778839
>>21778218
>>21778839
30+ minutes a day can be 24 hours if you want it to. Listening is on the guide. Making anki cards is on the guide (can be sentence cards if you want, it doesn't specify). Literally the only difference is RTK which the MIA community has watered down to pretty much a month long endeavor of 1000 lazy kanji followed by deleting the deck. Not a big difference.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 10:07:32 2019 No.21781419 >>21781414 this is a person who made a new thread 12 hours prior to the old thread dying (which is still up i believe)

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 10:09:07 2019 No.21781423 >>21781419 It's the final thread now. I can't believe someone was stupid enough to make a new thread on /jp/ when there were still thirteen threads below it.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 10:14:46 2019 No.21781438 File: 264 KB, 800x600, Gzpfv.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] what does she mean by 初行為

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 10:18:56 2019 No.21781458 >>21781438 fucking

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 10:24:54 2019 No.21781475 Is there a way to get serie like say mad men in subbed japanese? I'm tired of watching animes.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 10:26:49 2019 No.21781482 >animes

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 10:26:50 2019 No.21781483 >>21781438 >初体験（はつたいけん）とは、人生において初めて体験する具体的な性行為を指す。 That's what Wikipedia says, not me.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 10:28:05 2019 No.21781487 >>21781482 ?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 10:28:59 2019 No.21781492 >>21781487 esl retard

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 10:29:10 2019 No.21781493 buy the dub off amazon japan

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 10:29:40 2019 No.21781497 >>21781492 I couldn't care less about it, now fuck off.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 10:31:14 2019 No.21781504 if you don't care then you should've ignored my post your coping faggot lol

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 10:31:37 2019 No.21781505 >>21781438 i took it to mean kiss when i read it since it's a pg13 game and you wouldn't be so crude

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 10:32:47 2019 No.21781513 >>21781505 (濃いキス also makes more sense to me)

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 10:33:19 2019 No.21781514 anime is plural like geese is plural

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 10:34:03 2019 No.21781517 >>21781504 >muh muh cope I said I didn't care about my grammar, not that I didn't care about you said you retard.

>>	moenigger Mon Jul 29 10:34:23 2019 No.21781519 man fuck eigo

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 10:35:10 2019 No.21781521 File: 31 KB, 640x480, 1538042621620.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 10:35:17 2019 No.21781522 >>21781517 ???? explain how it's different to care about grammar and care about when someone corrects your grammar

Anonymous Mon Jul 29 10:36:19 2019 No.21781525

why do people like english should inherit grammar of other languages? just because anime can be plural in japanese doesn't mean it should be if it's loaned into english. im a defender of english grammar and will ALWAYS refer to them as animes and mangas.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 10:36:28 2019 No.21781527 >>21781522 You called me a retard, that's when I answered you, the first time with the "?" was when I didn't understand what you said (if it was you). Do I really need to explain everything to you?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 10:37:19 2019 No.21781530 >>21781525 why do people think* phoneposting is a true curse on the mind

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 10:41:23 2019 No.21781542 >>21781527 well seems like i was right in calling you a retard since you don't care about making mistakes that make it obvious you're some esl to anyone who knows english

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 10:41:48 2019 No.21781543 watch animes guys

Anonymous Mon Jul 29 10:42:18 2019 No.21781548

>>21781538
yeah but if i decide to say animes and you understand what im trying to say (the plural of anime) because it follows the standard conventions of english grammar, then that usage is also perfectly acceptable. and that's also how language works.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 10:43:25 2019 No.21781554 saying "animes" and "mangas" is the biggest sign you're an esl

>>	moenigger Mon Jul 29 10:43:32 2019 No.21781555 native english speaker here

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 10:44:35 2019 No.21781558 >>21781548 i guess i can understand what you're saying but there's a difference between speaking naturally and sounding like a foreigner so i guess do whatever you like it's a free country

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 10:44:41 2019 No.21781559 File: 158 KB, 640x438, ダウンロード.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>21781555

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 10:44:55 2019 No.21781560 File: 394 B, 110x24, lol.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>21781548

Anonymous Mon Jul 29 10:45:13 2019 No.21781563

>>21781554
nah it's the biggest sign you're a patriot and a defender of our OWN grammar against the hordes. next thing you'll be telling me the plural of octopus isn't octopuses because somehow greek grammatical rules apply to english. drain the linguistic swamp.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 10:46:30 2019 No.21781567 >>21781560 so you let a robot tell you what you can or can't say? guess you're ready for the next 50 years of being cucked by Google Dominatrix

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 10:47:47 2019 No.21781577 obv the plural is animera

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 10:48:00 2019 No.21781578 >>21781570 Is 0 an even number? Or is it an odd number?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 10:48:41 2019 No.21781580 >>21781570 it's the most boring thing ever put to paper in any language. you'll read 20 pages maximum in english and 0 in japanese

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 10:49:01 2019 No.21781582 File: 78 KB, 512x440, UxzQSTh.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>21781578

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 10:49:06 2019 No.21781584 i've never once in my whole life met a native english speaker that says "animes"

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 10:49:27 2019 No.21781587 >>21781358 A lot of time at weekends. One hour at most on other days.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 10:50:17 2019 No.21781590 File: 866 KB, 1225x689, スクリーンショット (286).png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] to think i didn't felt like reading vns yesterday

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 10:51:23 2019 No.21781593 >>21781584 I wonder how your boomer dad would pluralize it.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 10:51:55 2019 No.21781595 >>21781593 "faggot shit"

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 10:53:07 2019 No.21781601 >>21781590 VNs aren't reading.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 10:53:48 2019 No.21781604 >>21781587 that's not enough study hours to get to that level in one year unfortunately.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 10:53:59 2019 No.21781605 air isn't reading.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 10:56:07 2019 No.21781617 >>21781604 its not possible to get to that level in a year regardless of study time. even if you spent 8 hours a day that's only 3000 hours of study. you definitely need over 10k hours of anime watched alone

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 10:56:48 2019 No.21781619 >>21781617 anime isn't reading.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 10:57:59 2019 No.21781621 >>21781619 yeah and that's why it takes so long to get to that stage. you need 10k hours of anime just to be able to read normally

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 11:00:57 2019 No.21781634 you can bypass the anime watching if you learn to read with visual novels. that's how rarepotato learned japanese in a year by reading vns for 8+ hours a day

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 11:02:29 2019 No.21781644 >>21781634 post videos of this guy speaking japanese we'll see if he knows japanese

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 11:02:30 2019 No.21781645 >>21781634 is there any proof he can actually read? probably not

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 11:03:34 2019 No.21781652 bet anything this guy "knows" japanese just like how meditation tranny is "fluent" in japanese

>>	moenigger Mon Jul 29 11:03:43 2019 No.21781653 vn語 is unnatural

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 11:04:47 2019 No.21781657 >>21781653 Life is unnatural

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 11:05:41 2019 No.21781661 natural is a meme, everything is unnatural

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 11:06:25 2019 No.21781664 ky guy i don't think you know what's natural or not when you think 空気を読む is some obscure expression you're right though language they use on vns is unnatural but so is the language in fiction in general, including the anime you watch

>>	moenigger Mon Jul 29 11:08:57 2019 No.21781679 File: 434 KB, 1422x2075, ゆるゆり_7_020.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

Anonymous Mon Jul 29 11:10:47 2019 No.21781690

>>21781669
results are different from being able to read high lit. do you think someone who read translated VNs in english for a year to learn english could read thomas mann's modern classic doctor faustus at the end of it and get anything out of it? i would contend even most native english speakers would struggle

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 11:11:31 2019 No.21781696 >>21781679 How do you look up unknown words that have familiar kanji, moe?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 11:13:00 2019 No.21781703 >>21781679 It seems that she's always hot

>>	moenigger Mon Jul 29 11:13:12 2019 No.21781704 >>21781696 handwrite into a dictionary preferably on the phone

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 11:14:38 2019 No.21781709 File: 1.06 MB, 1200x798, chrome_XHDkxrm8Sj.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] yosh. time for my daily 3 hours of anki

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 11:14:44 2019 No.21781711 >>21781690 no one cares about reading that gay shit lol

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 11:15:00 2019 No.21781713 >>21781704 >not just reading it out loud in to google translate https://streamable.com/55uig

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 11:16:28 2019 No.21781723 >>21781711 the original question was about reading that kind of thing tho ?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 11:20:02 2019 No.21781743 >>21781690 Mann wrote in German, so your argument isn't applicable. Somebody who can read Fate/stay night in English could probably read Hemingway or Steinbeck, but I wouldn't be too sure about them being able to read James Joyce or Henry James.

Anonymous Mon Jul 29 11:20:06 2019 No.21781744

>>21781733
bro, no joke, i remember after i finished the anime (this was way before i started learning japanese, mind you) i got to the part where they pulled out a mahjong set and i dropped it and said i'd go back to it when i learned the rules for mahjong, only now had i finally learned how to play it and went back to it, i'm pissed

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 11:23:25 2019 No.21781758 >>21781743 someone who is able to read fate/stay night in english could but reading for a year wouldn't get you to that point imo. even more so in japanese. anyway the original translation of mann is pretty faithful afaik

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 11:27:41 2019 No.21781785 File: 939 KB, 623x981, file.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] i wish they had just went with uno, then my autism wouldn't have stopped me from reading it for almost a year only to be dissapointed

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 11:29:18 2019 No.21781794 8jg of the day 天上天下唯我独尊

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 11:31:47 2019 No.21781805 that's weak, check this 9jg 修身斉家治国平天下

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 11:32:20 2019 No.21781808 >>21781794 >てんげ motherfucker

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 11:35:04 2019 No.21781820 lol i didn't even notice it wasn't tenka, that's fucked up

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 11:36:22 2019 No.21781828 the etymology for that 8jg is very cool btw i suggest u all check it out and enlighten yourselves

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 11:46:17 2019 No.21781865 https://streamable.com/lnwie

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 11:48:26 2019 No.21781871 >>21781865 i want someone from here to record them saying バスガス爆発 3 times real quick

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 11:49:20 2019 No.21781876 File: 107 KB, 806x651, Capture.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] starting to feel like this story is picking up a little. hopefully that makes me read faster and more each day

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 11:50:05 2019 No.21781880 >>21781876 bro it gets so much better on the true route, just you wait

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 11:54:29 2019 No.21781901 post 軍歌 bangers https://youtu.be/G1ckh1GHyIA

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 11:58:38 2019 No.21781917 >>21781871 sure why not https://vocaroo.com/i/s1po00d5rGEs

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 12:00:22 2019 No.21781928 >>21781917 >ガスガス爆破 bro...

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 12:03:10 2019 No.21781945 >>21781935 you know what you did

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 12:06:17 2019 No.21781958 >>21781945 do you think i said 爆破 lol?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 12:07:59 2019 No.21781968 >>21781965 its the ritual of the vocaroo

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 12:08:01 2019 No.21781969 >>21781958 oh no that was just a typo, i meant 爆発 the main point is you're not saying バス

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 12:11:13 2019 No.21781988 imagine this dude saying he's gonna take a bus in japan and people look at him weird cause he thinks he's saying バス but he's saying ガス

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 12:13:29 2019 No.21781999 >fails tongue twister horribly and gets called out >nah dude you just can't hear right classic djt

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 12:15:11 2019 No.21782009 File: 4 KB, 230x60, Capture.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>21781993 is this you?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 12:15:12 2019 No.21782010 >>21782003 there you go, i felt a lot less confidence on that one but you did it

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 12:17:15 2019 No.21782018 >>21782009 No, I can actually read kanji, but I can't understand sung Japanese at all.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 12:17:29 2019 No.21782020 anyone wants to try this one? 坊主が屏風に上手に坊主の絵を描(か)いた (would be cool if you can do it 3 times but honestly even 1 i'd be impressed)

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 12:25:52 2019 No.21782060 >>21782020 multiple is too hard https://vocaroo.com/i/s16oCZYDwwDL

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 12:26:47 2019 No.21782063 >>21781587 30 years and you'll make it

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 12:27:17 2019 No.21782064 >>21782060 you said びょうふ, it's びょうぶ

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 12:28:31 2019 No.21782068 >>21781999 truly epic

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 12:28:55 2019 No.21782070 File: 271 KB, 700x823, 6e910d25.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] What decent places are there to find raw manga, other than nyaa or djt's limited library? Neither one is doing the trick for me atm.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 12:29:03 2019 No.21782072 >>21782064 fuck i knew I was gonna fuck it up again

>>	moenigger Mon Jul 29 12:29:33 2019 No.21782074 Immersion is the real start of language learning. Everything else is build up. Do not get lost in the build up.

Anonymous Mon Jul 29 12:30:45 2019 No.21782084

How does a day of studying of someone who has just finished basic Kana should look like? I work full time, which means I cannot do a lot every day, but I do something every day and I am motivated to keep up my schedule. Someone told me long ago that "everything", but it might be a bit overwhelming and doesn't tell me much. Should I focus on learning Kanji next? Vocabulary? Grammar? I'd like some kind of a plan/schedule, so to speak. For now I am just learning Kanji radicals and browsing anki deck. Is that a correct course of action?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 12:31:06 2019 No.21782085 >>21782064 that's actually a bit easier than what i was trying i think lol https://vocaroo.com/i/s0SM4XBOCNm5

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 12:31:10 2019 No.21782087 >>21782070 lhscan has some.

>>	moenigger Mon Jul 29 12:31:21 2019 No.21782089 ?

>>	moenigger Mon Jul 29 12:32:01 2019 No.21782096 >>21782085 very good

>>	moenigger Mon Jul 29 12:33:23 2019 No.21782100 Being able to speak a language is always mundane To the point where someone who has acquired a language is treated like they're a native who did no work, yet beginners are treated like the real authority because it's obvious they're still learning

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 12:33:51 2019 No.21782103 here's a funny one https://forvo.com/word/%E9%B3%B3%E5%87%B0%E3%82%92%E8%BF%BD%E3%81%86%E7%8E%8B%E3%82%92%E8%A6%86%E3%81%8A%E3%81%86/#ja

moenigger Mon Jul 29 12:34:25 2019 No.21782105

>>21782084
Don't make your ability someone else's responsibility to guide you, just because you feel you aren't qualified to do it yourself.

Don't put yourself down. You always had the freedom and ability to find the answers yourself through immersion.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 12:34:26 2019 No.21782106 >>21782084 go through a book like tae kim's grammar guide or genki then start reading manga

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 12:34:41 2019 No.21782108 >>21782087 Huh, a lot of things on that site don't seem to contain the first bunch of chapters.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 12:34:53 2019 No.21782109 i like this new moenigger better than ky guy

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 12:39:28 2019 No.21782134 >>21782108 Yeah, and there was a holocaust of their hosted images, so a lot of chapters are just broke. But it's pret good if you're looking for recent raws.

moenigger Mon Jul 29 12:46:59 2019 No.21782171

You can easily meet people on the internet today who acquired a second language without ever leaving their country.

And yet nobody asks them how they did it because they're so natural nobody considers them a learner.

So they go ask someone who /hasn't/ accomplished it instead

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 12:47:27 2019 No.21782173 >>21782163 i wanna say you did it too slow but i don't want to discourage you from doing those since it's been months since i saw you post a vocaroo so i'll just say it sounds slow cause of the voice changer and good job

>>	moenigger Mon Jul 29 12:48:01 2019 No.21782176 Learning a word is a process, not an event.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 12:48:26 2019 No.21782181 is it just me or people in these threads are arguing about studying more than actually studying

>>	moenigger Mon Jul 29 12:49:03 2019 No.21782186 Saying the secret to contuining is never stopping sounds like a tautology but it couldn't be more true Stopping or taking a break inversely builds up a counter-habit of "I don't need to do that thing" so it becomes even harder to continue

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 12:49:28 2019 No.21782190 >>21782106 Thank you anon, so grammar book first? That's actually something I haven't considered. Figured there's no point in studying a grammar book without basic vocabulary/kanji competency.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 12:49:54 2019 No.21782193 >>21782181 just you. we're all studying diligently with native materials and tab in here every once in a while to make a post or two

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 12:50:06 2019 No.21782194 >>21782181 nope just you

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 12:50:13 2019 No.21782195 >>21782174 Imagine not knowing that. Haha, I totally get it, though. No need to explain it to me (but maybe you could refresh my memory??? haha jk, ofc I know what it is)

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 12:52:16 2019 No.21782210 >>21782163 that's the cringiest one yet, good job.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 12:53:30 2019 No.21782217 >>21782163 the greatest evidence ive seen for jamals superiority right here also ive been trying to speed it up but it's fucking hard https://vocaroo.com/i/s1ZYjj3z4hkh

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 12:57:10 2019 No.21782234 aiming for the 3 second speedrun https://vocaroo.com/i/s1ZYjj3z4hkh

Anonymous Mon Jul 29 12:59:18 2019 No.21782248

>>21782190
the resources i recommended to you have vocabulary sections where all the words used in that chapter are defined for you. i don't see anything wrong with your idea of learning words first and then grammar either. you need both grammar and vocabulary to read and understand so until you know both it's going to be quite painful. since you are doing self-study how you get there is up to you in the end

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 12:59:55 2019 No.21782252 >>21782242 lol nice

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 12:59:55 2019 No.21782253 >>21782242 jamal confirmed for anglo

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 13:00:32 2019 No.21782259 Why are there so many /a/utists and /v/ermin in these threads?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 13:05:59 2019 No.21782294 >>21782070 SenManga Amazon

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 13:06:55 2019 No.21782302 >>21782084 Just follow the guide >>21777896

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 13:22:33 2019 No.21782364 >>21778229 Except for that dude who did it for 3 years straight and was nowhere near fluent and went into a depression, then he had to "find himself in the misery", and now whenever he hears japanese he has flashbacks like he was in 'nam.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 13:30:56 2019 No.21782395 File: 183 KB, 1453x167, file.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] i got this

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 13:34:40 2019 No.21782412 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=76aRKpH3K_I#t=9s

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 13:35:24 2019 No.21782415 maajan isn't reading.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 13:36:17 2019 No.21782420 it's fun though

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 13:40:39 2019 No.21782441 >>21781049 Me sitting on the red chair

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 13:41:31 2019 No.21782446 >>21782431 that's so fucking epic omg

>>	moenigger Mon Jul 29 13:41:55 2019 No.21782449 File: 137 KB, 446x425, 1EWB4mvN7K.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 13:42:04 2019 No.21782450 based he really inspires me to wear my white t-shirts

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 13:44:09 2019 No.21782461 >>21782449 why do Japanese people like Yoshi so much? Is it his cute tasty eggs?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 13:48:55 2019 No.21782477 >>21782464 人種差別主義者だ

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 14:09:54 2019 No.21782577 ive been checking and paying attention to pitch accent for every new word i learn and now i can identify it just from hearing it as matt predicted... sasuga the japanese god

>>	moenigger Mon Jul 29 14:10:43 2019 No.21782583 study verb conjugation pitch accent

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 14:15:16 2019 No.21782602 胴輪

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 14:16:14 2019 No.21782606 出来るs never study. They just watch anime and read eroge. Fakers do anki reps and read grammar/pitch accent guides, in addition to collecting obscure words from novels and Wikipedia articles. 出来ぬs do whatever others (usually fakers) tell them to do.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 14:18:56 2019 No.21782619 >>21782606 Your post is subtly implying to new learners that they should watch anime and read eroge, which means anyone who does those things is now doing what someone else told them to do. Nobody can ever learn Japanese again.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 14:19:19 2019 No.21782621 >>21782606 wouldn't i be a 出来ぬ if i just watched anime and read eroge now that you said it?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 14:19:20 2019 No.21782622 fakers that's a good one lol

>>	moenigger Mon Jul 29 14:32:16 2019 No.21782649 >>21782606 useless unenlightened black and white thinking

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 14:47:25 2019 No.21782698 It's odd how Japanese kids study English for like 6 years and all they have to show for it is knowing some more obscure English words yet they can't say a single sentence other than "I'm fain hawayuu"

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 14:50:40 2019 No.21782708 yeah they study for school exams not for fun. idk anyone who got fluent taking spanish classes in high school in america either

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 14:53:09 2019 No.21782719 >>21782708 I do, but an English speaker learning Spanish for 4 years is massively ahead of a Japanese speaker learning English, even if it is 6 years.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 14:56:54 2019 No.21782735 >>21782640 nice, i think i'll move there too, did you win that hand btw?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 14:57:56 2019 No.21782742 >any panty shot ever >not warranted wat

>>	makopi Mon Jul 29 15:09:07 2019 No.21782783 >>21782174 I don't even have a full grasp of did vs have done, although I'd like to think I get them right most of the time.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 15:12:35 2019 No.21782795 https://youtu.be/NWxPMndiyjk

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 15:15:20 2019 No.21782807 word of the day: らりるれろ

>>	moenigger Mon Jul 29 15:17:01 2019 No.21782814 File: 18 KB, 487x185, file.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 15:20:26 2019 No.21782835 File: 1.53 MB, 1676x937, file.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>21782778 alright changing servers was a bad idea lol

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 15:22:26 2019 No.21782846 >>21782835 oh damn, forgot to censor the names on the background, guess it doesn't matter since mine's not there lol, holy shit did i get owned though

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 15:23:26 2019 No.21782852 >>21782835 I can't stop masturbating

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 15:25:21 2019 No.21782863 would there be any kind of backlash if i went to nicongo and called people for baka kuronbos

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 15:26:44 2019 No.21782871 >>21782863 looks like ky guy isn't the only one who ky

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 15:28:33 2019 No.21782883 >>21782070 https://itazuraneko.neocities.org/library/manga/mangalist.html did you see at the full list ?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 15:29:28 2019 No.21782887 >>21782835 oof, that's when you know it's time for some learning at least since there's so few nips online we might be put into the same room if we time it right

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 15:30:38 2019 No.21782890 >>21782887 this fucker was the only dude who won any hands in the game, i'm thinking he might be a smurf or something cause it was insane how his lowest hand was like 4 han

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 15:32:01 2019 No.21782894 >>21782890 i wasn't lying about how they >go big or go home Lol

>>	moenigger Mon Jul 29 15:34:46 2019 No.21782903 File: 20 KB, 457x204, file.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>21782884

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 15:35:39 2019 No.21782906 >>21782894 to be fair one of those i was going for 国士無双 and i played right into his ron and i really shouldn't have done that but a lot of the time the dude just called riichi like 4 draws in or did tsumo with some insane hands

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 15:44:16 2019 No.21782948 i wish i wasn't a neet so i could play a met of mahjong with jamal with money on the table and take all his money

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 15:44:24 2019 No.21782950 someone be my friend and teach me mahjong

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 15:45:54 2019 No.21782953 dude just watch the 3 hour tutorial video on playing mahjong and ignore all the parts where he explains how to set up the game on the table cause you're never gonna play that shit irl and the game takes care of that part for you

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 15:48:13 2019 No.21782960 >>21782958 yeah that's the one lol

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 15:50:19 2019 No.21782969 learning japanese is luck based

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 15:54:05 2019 No.21782984 File: 96 KB, 806x651, Capture.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] how does her hair hover in the air like that

Anonymous Mon Jul 29 15:54:26 2019 No.21782986

>>21782965
Yes. An ideal chess player would have as many possible board states, and optimal reactions to them, memorized as they could manage. Therefore the outcome is decided on luck via two factors:
1: Your opponent puts the board into a state you've yet to memorize and now cannot react appropriately
2: Your opponent (via luck) was born with a better memory and knows more board states than you and thus will not lose.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 15:56:21 2019 No.21782990 File: 341 KB, 1600x1032, 81hqKkfNKFL[1].jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] i want to read it so hard... can any of you rich westerners buy it and upload it for common good?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 15:57:48 2019 No.21782993 buy a real history book. they aren't that expensive

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 16:00:37 2019 No.21782998 damn im addicted to metta. my new drug!

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 16:02:34 2019 No.21783000 >>21782814 how the heck is せ onions sauce lol

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 16:04:11 2019 No.21783006 「せ」が醤油なのは、その昔「しょうゆ」を「せうゆ」と書いたため。

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 16:05:35 2019 No.21783012 >>21782984 it's the steam she is constantly giving off that is lifting her hair

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 16:08:18 2019 No.21783021 >>21782698 they're not encouraged to seek out compelling input so their only association with the language is shitty textbooks

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 16:13:04 2019 No.21783035 File: 12 KB, 211x109, help.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] help what are these kanjis

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 16:13:27 2019 No.21783037 >>21783035 鉄砲

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 16:16:58 2019 No.21783051 >>21783037 cool thank you

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 16:17:59 2019 No.21783055 >>21783051 use google translate handwriting recognition and draw it in next time

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 16:18:14 2019 No.21783056 >>21782986 lol, name a single sport that isn't luck based or any game that isn't luck based by your definition of "luck based" which just means "you played against a retard so you're lucky to not have played against someone who's not retarded"

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 16:20:02 2019 No.21783066 >>21783039 i learned that word from monster hunter stories the anime

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 16:20:31 2019 No.21783067 >>21783056 you just got trolled dude

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 16:21:34 2019 No.21783072 >>21783006 醤油将由 fuck, sound sisters make my ass pucker

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 16:21:56 2019 No.21783076 >>21783042 >>21783056 sub-AI level copes detected

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 16:25:32 2019 No.21783089 i know jamal in real life. he is short, in his 30's and has an afro. and took a long time to graduate from university

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 16:26:36 2019 No.21783090 >>21783056 how much of a normie do you have to be to not realize every single thing in life comes down to luck lmao, you have a lot less control over yourself than your fragile brain wants to admit

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 16:26:53 2019 No.21783093 no way jamal is some uni grad nerd loser

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 16:30:10 2019 No.21783109 imagine actually having a degree lmao

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 16:31:32 2019 No.21783115 i knew jamal, we used to hustle kush to white boys and ras lovers until he said something about him wanting that calm life moving in with his grandfather in some farm in georgia

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 16:33:54 2019 No.21783125 wtf i hate jamal now

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 16:35:05 2019 No.21783126 ボタンを押す or ボタンを押さえる

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 16:36:42 2019 No.21783129 >>21783068 >Luck: success or failure apparently brought by chance rather than through one's own actions. Nope it's a real word, checkmate retard

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 16:38:55 2019 No.21783138 >>21783129 hmm, but if i roll a dice that's taking an action touché...........

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 16:38:58 2019 No.21783139 >>21783136 phenomenal

>>	makopi or w/e Mon Jul 29 16:40:49 2019 No.21783150 >>21782969 accurate

>>	makopi or w/e Mon Jul 29 16:41:51 2019 No.21783153 >>21783144 One of the better posts!

Anonymous Mon Jul 29 16:44:08 2019 No.21783159
File: 2.41 MB, 4000x2898, 20190729-rtk-combined-small.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

I decided to use my whiteboard today, thinking that it would save time, but dealing with the scanner for it ended up making it take more time overall.

What I might do in future is only scan (whether whiteboard or brush-pen) my reps from the point where Anki shows me new cards (i.e. after I finish the initial set of reviews, since I use the "reviews before new" option).

Anonymous Mon Jul 29 16:48:33 2019 No.21783170

>>21782969
No it's not. It's all determined by these factors:
1. How good you are at remembering stuff.
2. How good you are at paying attention to stuff.
3. How much motivation you've got for it at any given point in the process.
4. How much time you've got that you can put into it.
It's not luck. It's more like genes, environment, and being a huge otaku/weeb.

>>	makopi Mon Jul 29 16:48:58 2019 No.21783173 >>21783159 Imagine being born with just enough IQ to waste everything on that holy shit.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 16:50:50 2019 No.21783187 >>21783159 Is there a point to learning German keywords for kanji when you could be learning their 音読み or 訓読み too or instead?

Anonymous Mon Jul 29 16:53:00 2019 No.21783194

>>21783170
>It's not luck. It's more like genes, environment,
It's not luck, it's more like luck and luck

>>21783173
Honestly

>>21783187
Because they're doing RTK and either don't know better or genuinely think learning readings with the kanji is too much at once or somethin

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 16:53:43 2019 No.21783200 i really hate the germans

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 16:56:12 2019 No.21783213 >>21783193 Then he should be watching anime with German subs instead. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1VMqa-UuBl4

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 17:03:27 2019 No.21783238 >>21783181 You forgot the 3. option being "PROFIT!!!!" grandpa

>>	moenigger Mon Jul 29 17:03:43 2019 No.21783239 how can i get my esoteric posting style to be understood by a wider audience

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 17:04:41 2019 No.21783241 >>21783239 just gotta be lucky enough

Anonymous Mon Jul 29 17:04:58 2019 No.21783247

>>21781156
I'm not sure how much variation exists within classical Japanese considering the timespan it covers but I don't think Mattvsjapan can read works like Genji Monogatari. But he can read plenty of classical Japanese. He found classical Japanese grammar books in Japanese and SRS'd all the grammar/sentences and read a bunch of classical shit.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 17:05:23 2019 No.21783249 >>21783229 Luck means "random shit happens". You can be a determinist if you believe that there is a necessary effect for every cause, consquentially implying that randomness would have no place.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 17:09:49 2019 No.21783273 most useful kanji for mahjong fags: 牌

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 17:10:02 2019 No.21783274 to be honest with you guys, it's me who controls the direction of these threads. since I'm the RTK and anki baiter

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 17:11:13 2019 No.21783279 >>21783274 rtk bad anki good aniki better

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 17:13:02 2019 No.21783286 >>21783282 more like a baby with a fresh dump in its dipe

Anonymous Mon Jul 29 17:13:15 2019 No.21783287

>>21783247
he definitely can't read classical japanese considering he can't even read "dense philosophical text". he only said he tried to read 学問のすゝめ which was written specifically to be easily understood by retards (fukuzawa yukichi would read it out loud and ask his maid if she could understand it). anyone who knows some modern japanese could read it

>>	makopi Mon Jul 29 17:13:20 2019 No.21783288 >>21782606 & then there's MAKOPI (me) who does whatever the fuck he wants but which apparently no one else does. I just want to see how much I can get away with.

>>	makopi Mon Jul 29 17:15:08 2019 No.21783296 >>21783287 Isn't the Meiji stuff in general very clearly written? Oh well I ain't fucking surprised Matt is perpetually dead to me those blows to him do nothing.

>>	moenigger Mon Jul 29 17:15:46 2019 No.21783298 >>21783288 based makopi

Anonymous Mon Jul 29 17:19:52 2019 No.21783314

>>21783296
depends on the author but generally the use of vocab is pretty close to modern japanese which makes it easier, and also a lot of specific details about japanese grammatical constructions weren't really well known so even though there's like 5 different forms of past-tense in classical japanese they were used interchangeably by that point

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 17:20:22 2019 No.21783316 i'm only concerned about what jamal does

>>	moenigger Mon Jul 29 17:20:49 2019 No.21783317 who?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 17:21:12 2019 No.21783318 >>21783310 why you worried about other people when you're still the worst person on this thread at japanese?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 17:21:42 2019 No.21783320 the other nigger boy

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 17:22:13 2019 No.21783321 actually i think just "the worst person on this thread" in general fits you too

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 17:23:26 2019 No.21783325 pre-patreon matt was the best matt

>>	makopi Mon Jul 29 17:23:42 2019 No.21783326 >>21783298 I respect a free soul. >>21783314 Exactly dude.

>>	moenigger Mon Jul 29 17:29:54 2019 No.21783347 unlikely

>>	moenigger Mon Jul 29 17:32:20 2019 No.21783362 you have failed to read my 空気

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 17:34:59 2019 No.21783369 >>21783090 theres no such thing as luck, just conditions you may or may not be aware of

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 17:35:30 2019 No.21783375 I don't think so. jamal fan got called out for his nihongo mistake after all, and I told him that he is not worthy of the name. So now as a cope you act like you hate jamal

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 17:36:17 2019 No.21783378 got some nasty google image results when i searched 頭をかきむしった

>>	makopi Mon Jul 29 17:37:59 2019 No.21783383 >>21783341 >>21783375 ??? What is this fanfiction again? I grant you my permission to write more though bcuz all human beings are born free.

>>	moenigger Mon Jul 29 17:40:19 2019 No.21783388 let's start over hey djt im moenigger nice to meet you all

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 17:40:46 2019 No.21783389 >>21783383 Sorry, but I'm working on a VN about it and explaining more would ruin the plot

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 17:41:15 2019 No.21783391 today i learned that 押さえる = 認識・理解する

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 17:42:28 2019 No.21783393 File: 60 KB, 230x268, file.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 17:49:54 2019 No.21783418 i bypassed learning japanese by doing rtk

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 17:50:02 2019 No.21783419 I don't know any japanese but I've mastered ゲー語

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 17:52:14 2019 No.21783431 >>21783419 ゲイ語？

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 17:52:33 2019 No.21783432 word of the day is ペテン師

>>	moenigger Mon Jul 29 17:53:14 2019 No.21783433 File: 503 KB, 1297x1080, 1546329520537.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 18:01:04 2019 No.21783452 File: 121 KB, 806x651, Capture.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] here's one for our rtk friends

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 18:13:18 2019 No.21783509 File: 794 KB, 652x955, file.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] i hate having to remember those chink readings

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 18:21:04 2019 No.21783538 >>21783187 but anon I already know german, and german morphology (actually most non-english languages) permits you to be less ambiguous with the keywords which is a huge help

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 18:21:28 2019 No.21783541 >>21783452 >friends as if id be friends with someone that retarded

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 18:25:22 2019 No.21783551 >>21783541 suck my 肉棒

Anonymous Mon Jul 29 18:31:09 2019 No.21783570

>>21783538
German is as unrelated to Japanese as Hindi is. You're not gonna understand the subtleties of the Japanese language by trying to use RTK keywords for kanji. In many cases, kanji are used more like root words than as independent words, and there can be several words with different meanings tied to the same kanji (like in 本 or 下-下ろす).

>>	moenigger Mon Jul 29 18:32:10 2019 No.21783573 >>21783551 wtf is a "meat rod" rtk sucks

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 18:32:48 2019 No.21783576 >>21783570 >You're not gonna understand the subtleties of the Japanese language by trying to use RTK keywords for kanji. point status: missed

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 18:33:24 2019 No.21783578 >>21783570 he probably means that less ambiguous keywords are easier for him to know which kanji to write. there are keywords like secret and secrecy and you have to know whether to write 秘 or 密 lol

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 18:34:18 2019 No.21783579 >>21783573 It's just some specific biology word

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 18:36:14 2019 No.21783583 how did this entire thread get so fucking awful that they unironically defend some dumb fucking faggot using german rtk

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 18:37:19 2019 No.21783588 it devolved once I've mentioned something about luck

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 18:42:47 2019 No.21783619 panda dead what do i wank to now

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 18:44:29 2019 No.21783629 those peeps still haven't refunded my 20 hath perk when they introduced the tag-system overhaul

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 18:44:54 2019 No.21783632 File: 127 KB, 1024x707, 1536234486736.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>21783538 >german morphology permits you to be less ambiguous

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 18:45:43 2019 No.21783634 >姦 doesn't appear till RTK 3 How could such an important kanji have been left out?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 18:46:18 2019 No.21783638 >>21783619 JAV

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 18:48:09 2019 No.21783643 >>21783634 but everyone already learned that hanzi from meme tedx "lectures" years ago

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 18:50:55 2019 No.21783652 >>21783578 exactly, and english sometimes has the problem where nouns are identical to either verbs or adjectives whereas most other eurolangs have shit on the end of words guaranteeing what type they are

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 18:51:21 2019 No.21783657 >>21783638 >3d no thank you

>>	moenigger Mon Jul 29 18:54:43 2019 No.21783673 >>21783619 nhentai

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 18:55:45 2019 No.21783680 Dude Japanese is hard work, if only I could learn by reading and reading a lot instead of doing the latest fotm programs...

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 18:57:55 2019 No.21783691 sorry i called you a nigger jamal had too many energy drinks

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 18:59:14 2019 No.21783697 word of the day 頭にくる

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 18:59:59 2019 No.21783704 膝にくる

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 19:02:49 2019 No.21783725 is there any deeper meaning behind why 渡す (watasu) means "to hand over", but 渡る (wataru) means "to cross over", i.e. is there some sort of pattern to whether the -su or -ru hints at the same verb being transitive or intransitive (like with める・まる) ?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 19:05:54 2019 No.21783751 >>21783691 too late bro, he's never coming back

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 19:08:47 2019 No.21783775 >>21783725 never thought of that before

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 19:08:52 2019 No.21783777 >>21783725 Yes :)

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 19:09:32 2019 No.21783783 >>21783725 写す- 写る落とす - 落ちる壊す- 壊れる Yep.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 19:15:37 2019 No.21783807 >>21783783 thanks :) also just hit 残る．残す so it really does seem like a common feature, that's pretty cool

Anonymous Mon Jul 29 19:21:13 2019 No.21783846

>>21781548
loan words dont necessarily follow the conventions of english grammar : )
i mean some people say ninjas but no one says sushis u feel me
animes leans towards wrong to most but is just acceptable enough that u get some kids sayin it unironically
>>21781850
what a banger
>>21782018
such is the life of the low intermediate
>>21782242
im havin a hard time believin ur actually 69
>>21783388
夜露死苦ぅ！

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 19:23:47 2019 No.21783860 >>21783725 there are multiple patterns http://nihongo.monash.edu/ti_list.html

Anonymous Mon Jul 29 19:26:35 2019 No.21783869

>>21783725
it seems that way until it arbitrarily isn't, you have to learn it on a verb by verb basis but for the most part yes す is when youre doing it to something you'll notice the pattersn yourself if you're not retarded 汚す　汚れる is another pair

映る　映す　　移る　移す

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 19:27:40 2019 No.21783876 >>21783869 having a very useful rule and learning a handful of exceptions seems to be a much more sensible approach than blindly learning them all in isolation

Anonymous Mon Jul 29 19:30:59 2019 No.21783896

>>21783619
there are sites which mirrored (or by other means acquired, i dunno) all/most of the content
e.g. nhentai tsumino hitomi

only problem is the latter two i think have annoying ads where you click some part of the page (e.g. clicking to move to the next page or image of a gallery) and it sends you to some dodgy (and most likely malicious) third party site. the ads are reliant on javascript to work but so are both sites as a whole so you're forced to enable it. all you can do is practise vigilance and try to close the off-site page before it has chance to load.

nhentai is seemingly functional with all scripts blocked so that's the safest bet if you're wary of viruses, but i dunno if it has less content than the other two sites or something like that as a trade-off.

there's obviously also eroge, jav, etc.

>>	makopi Mon Jul 29 19:37:13 2019 No.21783939 >>21783433 love her

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 19:41:39 2019 No.21783961 >>21783876 you'd be surprised what your subconscious will acquire for free sometimes though

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 19:43:07 2019 No.21783974 >>21783961 i really much prefer running these things past the conscious mind too, just to be on the safe side, otherwise it's all too wishy-washy, hand-wavey and unfalsifiable

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 19:44:08 2019 No.21783979 https://youtu.be/vAvaPpHoWs4

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 19:52:16 2019 No.21784019 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GGA2hy9NM7c

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 20:00:15 2019 No.21784051 >>21784019 Ew, a western "woman" speaking nihongo

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 20:05:25 2019 No.21784069 File: 533 KB, 559x718, Untitled.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Anyone able to decipher this little doll nameboard thing?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 20:05:51 2019 No.21784070 why are vn soundtracks always so generic and boring it feels like every one uses the same songs they're so indistinguishable from one another

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 20:07:17 2019 No.21784075 >>21784070 prob cuz u only play ez moege and haven’t played a single kamige

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 20:08:13 2019 No.21784079 >>21784070 This but with the whole vn

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 20:08:23 2019 No.21784081 btw i consider moege to be anything without a voiced protagonist

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 20:10:24 2019 No.21784090 きのうかえりみちのブックオフで「しぬかとおもった」ていうはずかしいたいけんだんしゅうを 100えんでかったこういうのはだいすきだからよむのがたのしみきょうもってきてわすれたけどざんねんw

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 20:11:40 2019 No.21784099 >>21784069 初 something lol

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 20:16:12 2019 No.21784115 File: 23 KB, 480x360, mpv-shot0036.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>21784069 初音 it's meeku

Anonymous Mon Jul 29 20:16:22 2019 No.21784116

>>21784070
watch these and pick one with lots of ratings for its 音楽

>2chベストエロゲ
2001 - https://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm6052683
2002 - https://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm632525
2003 - https://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm570750
2004 - https://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm518006
2005 - https://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm863085
2006 - https://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm480491
2007 - https://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm2221994
2008 - https://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm5887958
2009 - https://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm9558399
2010 - https://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm13411213
2011 - https://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm16811310

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 20:16:55 2019 No.21784120 in the unlikely scenario that i want to use anki again what should i do to makw sure i do not quit it again

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 20:18:01 2019 No.21784123 >>21784120 what an incredibly painful post.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 20:18:06 2019 No.21784124 >>21784120 10 sentence cards a day

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 20:18:16 2019 No.21784127 >>21784120 make jav cards

Anonymous Mon Jul 29 20:20:47 2019 No.21784137

>>21784070
senshinkan had a fairly original soundtrack imo. it's pretty chuuni though so might not be to everyone's tastes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VUOW-3p_l8s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mv3-yWRIEYA&t=1s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NlQzFuRFpmk&t=1s

>>	makopi Mon Jul 29 20:20:55 2019 No.21784138 >>21784127 Red pill me on JAV cards.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 20:22:56 2019 No.21784144 >>21784120 アンキよりもどくしょをゆうせんしてじゅうぶんよんだら(たとえば2じかんいじょう) アンキつかっていいみたいなルールをきめてそうするとどうしてもリーディングがちゅうしんになる

>>	makopi Mon Jul 29 20:22:57 2019 No.21784145 >>21780583 朝に辞す　DJT彩雲の間……

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 20:25:52 2019 No.21784156 File: 1.10 MB, 1280x720, arifureta.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] lmfao what is this

>>	makopi Mon Jul 29 20:28:42 2019 No.21784166 I was in fact not born for this world I was born for the world of poetry which is why I ordinarily talk like a r*tard as fans of poetry are wont to do.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 20:29:42 2019 No.21784173 >>21784165 a yearly popularity chart of over 300 games is useless for someone who desnt play eroge already too

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 20:32:10 2019 No.21784182 >>21784070 say what you want about key shit they know how to make good music i recommend rewrite

Anonymous Mon Jul 29 20:35:15 2019 No.21784197
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>>21784165
the chart doesn't show any of the scores for the music and other stuff, just the overall total number of points
the video also shows snippets of the pvs for each eroge which gives you an idea of the art, setting, etc., much more useful than just a title and a number like you get on the graph

>>21784116
how the scoring system works (i think):
1 person can vote for up to 6 eroge
when voting for an eroge, you can choose to say what exactly you liked about it out of the following things:
>scenario
>characters
>graphics
>music
>gameplay
BUT you can only choose 2 of these things per eroge, e.g. scenario+characters or characters+graphics, or just characters on its own (or you can pick none at all)
you get 3 bonus points to add to whichever eroge in your list you want, but you can't add more than 2 points to a single one (you don't have to use any of these points if you don't want to)

Anonymous Mon Jul 29 20:35:57 2019 No.21784201
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>>21784138
I already got banned from streamable so I can't showcase them.
PPPD-766 is perfect example of what type of videos you should look for when making them.
The guy who fucks doesn't speak, but is given subs instead. To understand the plot, you have to listen extra carefully what the girl says since she isn't subbed, and probably is too far from the mic anyway.
These types of jav are in themselves already the ultimate way to learn nihongo because they combine everything you ever need, reading, listening and motivation!

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 20:38:51 2019 No.21784214 >>21784201 >田中瞳 her tits look disgusting and she's ugly to boot how does she get work?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 20:39:41 2019 No.21784220 who 賢者タイム here?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 20:39:55 2019 No.21784222 >>21784184 theres nothin wrong with a small list of recs when u dont know shit if ur still gonna look em up and pick the one that sounds the most fun to u >>21784201 lmfao show what kind of shit ur mining in the note browser

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 20:40:23 2019 No.21784225 >>21784214 the most important part is the plot! you think matt watched fucking pokemon because he liked it?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 20:45:00 2019 No.21784247 yikes

>>	moenigger Mon Jul 29 20:45:51 2019 No.21784250 jav lmao

Anonymous Mon Jul 29 20:45:52 2019 No.21784251

>>21784231
the only other places to look are vndb where half the ratings on untranslated vns come from eops reading machine translations, assuming they didn't just skim through the cg set and rate it on that instead
egs is better obviously but the owner has some retarded system set up which bans gaijin ip addresses if they have the nerve to load more than 5 pages from his potato server in any given 24 hour period

i guess you can also look through e-celeb lists like
https://vndb.org/u12472/votes?c=all;o=d;s=vote

>>	makopi Mon Jul 29 20:47:32 2019 No.21784262 The awkward roleplay drama turns me on, I love table talk and elevator scenes and other nitijo moments.

Anonymous Mon Jul 29 20:49:24 2019 No.21784268

i mean i agree with ntr that u shouldnt just look at top rated shit whether its from eops or native ero gamers
but recs can point a baby thats never eroged to a gentle moege that wont destroy them and is probably not total shit like leyline
and after like 2 or 3 eroge ull be in a much better position to be on ur own and follow ur heart : )

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 20:52:54 2019 No.21784284 Are there any audio clips for the lessons in tae kim? Don't necessarily need to be the exact examples but things that demonstrate the concept would be helpful for a retard like me.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 20:53:01 2019 No.21784285 it would be nice if you guys had some interactive stuff like duolingo but since I heard duolingo doesn't help. I like to multitask

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 20:54:28 2019 No.21784288 >>21784144 日本人ですか？それともラッキー

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 20:54:57 2019 No.21784290 you can talk to japanese people if you want interactive stuff you know

Anonymous Mon Jul 29 20:55:43 2019 No.21784293

for the record though im not sayin u look at a chart and roll a die and play the game like the rec chart is a walkthrough to the land of eroge
i dont remember the first place i ran into most of the shit i played or thats on my backlog but it was probably from some recs or mentions and i looked it up and decided if it looked sick or not
its ur own responsibility to do that and as long as u do then recs and charts and shit aint really different than any other way that shit can find its way in front of u

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 20:56:26 2019 No.21784295 >>21784284 here u go https://youtu.be/k0kU2cc85ZA?list=PLB3F2C5D8B5F81F34

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 20:56:39 2019 No.21784298 >>21784201 lol it's alright but the dialogue is super simple so you'll only get to master jav watcher with that shit

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 20:57:29 2019 No.21784302 >>21784295 https://itazuraneko.neocities.org/grammar/vjg.html

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 20:59:07 2019 No.21784306 eroge that has been ported to the psp or psv usually have the ero removed?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 21:00:47 2019 No.21784316 >>21784297 I don't know how true that is since I was doing duolingo and pimseluer for learning spanish but no practice

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 21:01:43 2019 No.21784318 >>21784306 >usually always eroge ported to consoles are just ge(i)

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 21:02:17 2019 No.21784322 >>21784304 very true boomer-sama fuck the internet

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 21:04:24 2019 No.21784334 >>21784316 That's why you should've been watching Minecraft let's play videos instead of listening to ゲイ Pimsleur CDs.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 21:04:41 2019 No.21784336 File: 819 KB, 2069x969, chart.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>21784304 if ur gonna do that ur gonna do whether u got a chart or not i hope they find a cure for it though lol

>>	makopi Mon Jul 29 21:05:02 2019 No.21784339 I'm just trying to procure that epic feeling of something... anything... out of my brain for knowing many thousands of kanji. Nothing comes out. It has never been epic. Where is my mistake? Should I have done RTK?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 21:06:09 2019 No.21784343 >>21784019 anal herpes

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 21:06:39 2019 No.21784346 >>21784339 maybe shoot yourself

Anonymous Mon Jul 29 21:10:01 2019 No.21784356
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>>21784339
if u ever want to build ur own chinese house u have a lot of inspiration to draw on
while if a less experienced kanji master tried theyd probably just make somethin that looks fuckin stupid to an expert like u

makopi Mon Jul 29 21:13:14 2019 No.21784366

>>21784353
I've been told it's 'cause I'm not a teenager anymore but how fucked does the world have to be then when at 20+ you're already as old as you'll be at 50? Are there teenagers right now sincerely enjoying the crap on nico? I'm going ever for the more dangerous pleasures I may eventually shoot myself >>21784350 only to find release not 'cause I'm emo. インターネットを廃止しろ。

>>	makopi Mon Jul 29 21:15:27 2019 No.21784376 >>21784356 what the fuck dude that is like an amalgam of the most typical kanji in Japanese. The entire thing is so disgustingly Japanese I can't look at it. It uses Chinese elements but it looks one hundred percent fake.

Anonymous Mon Jul 29 21:24:17 2019 No.21784413

>>21784339
all epic feelings are born inside your body. you have to cultivate it by focusing on it. external experiences can only ever be triggers, but no one ever teaches us that we can simply teach our bodies to have those feelings more. what does it feel like to be glad that you can do something? describe the feeling experience, tell me how your body responds.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 21:26:00 2019 No.21784420 >>21784413 is this a lead into a meditation pitch

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 21:26:13 2019 No.21784421 train our bodies is a better way to put it

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 21:26:13 2019 No.21784422 >>21781475 Believe it or not they do love action tv shows and films in Japan

makopi Mon Jul 29 21:26:16 2019 No.21784423

>>21784396
I appreciate it. Did you know that the word うっそう is actually 鬱蒼 and in it 鬱 is used to mean "thick vegetation"? The more you look at this, the more you feel one with the nature, one with your melancholy, one until you become one with the earth; only an 一寸 separates you from going (辶) DOWN.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 21:27:15 2019 No.21784428 >>21784422 *live action ffs

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 21:28:50 2019 No.21784434 あついよーあつすぎるよー

>>	makopi Mon Jul 29 21:29:33 2019 No.21784436 >>21784413 I will tell about it to myself. I can have a dialogue on that.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 21:30:38 2019 No.21784451 >>21784423 now how do u explain the dumb fuckin u kanmuri i added

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 21:31:58 2019 No.21784454 >>21781621 Watching a million hours of anime isn't going to help you read dick, mate.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 21:34:06 2019 No.21784461 Ok. Time for reading. Think I'll aim for 2 hours today.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 21:35:02 2019 No.21784463 >>21784454 actually it will just like reading a million hours of eroge will help u listen unless u permanently cripple urself the more nihongo u know the easier it is to fill in what u dont >>21784458 i think ur more fucked than me but respect

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 21:43:00 2019 No.21784490 >>21784472 anata no heeeyaAa de mita no eigaAAa alcohol no flavaaaAa fuっtari ha stay highp tada no groupie jane booty psycho kyuu ni dopena shorty

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 21:43:20 2019 No.21784491 >>21784115 >>21784069 I mean, yeah the second one looked a bit like 音, but I thought surely not... Guess it's the other being a funny.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 21:56:39 2019 No.21784530 なにもかんがえられないにほんのなつきついよー

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 21:58:11 2019 No.21784536 File: 93 KB, 1023x837, 1564196329263.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 22:02:17 2019 No.21784552 Oh shit. Nukemarine is spamming his youtube channel on a bunch of discord channels right now. He must be desperate for attention.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 22:06:45 2019 No.21784580 >>21784572 hes genuinely so stupid.... i kind of feel bad for how stupid he is

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 22:08:28 2019 No.21784590 if nuke was a bit more tech savvy hed just be sucking qms dick right now

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 22:12:19 2019 No.21784609 >>21784595 i mean whats the difference his cards are basically the same except his sentences are on front cuz he likes matt : )

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 22:12:44 2019 No.21784613 >>21784572 he really knows absolutely nothing still lol he looks up every common word that's even in his shitty premade decks

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 22:15:29 2019 No.21784624 actually i change my mind cuz do u think qm ever looks this happy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YaFJ_wVVbKA&t=1331

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 22:18:39 2019 No.21784637 File: 1010 KB, 1280x720, file.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] 吠え面

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 22:19:20 2019 No.21784642 >>21784624 he just skipped it and hes bad at seeking so he gave up when he was close to the end lol

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 22:22:01 2019 No.21784654 File: 553 KB, 1316x2669, quizBTFOnuke.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] remember nuke getting btfo by quiz?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 22:22:20 2019 No.21784655 >>21784645 i was gonna say what if the op is shit but actually if the op is shit u should just drop the show

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 22:23:31 2019 No.21784658 >>21784654 man whats up with that fucked up picture qm posted though the art is all fucked up

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 22:24:03 2019 No.21784659 File: 36 KB, 1024x683, Pilot-Metropolitan-Gold-Plain-NW-3_1024x1024.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>21777353 Can you link your pen? I switched to a fountain pen when I started writing kanji, but I've never tried a brush pen.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 22:24:19 2019 No.21784660 >>21784654 >uuhh sweetie? do you know what a hyperbole is? hello? god why does qm talk like such a passive aggressive faggot

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 22:26:14 2019 No.21784667 File: 61 KB, 591x60, mutturi.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] whoever posted this a while back https://soundcloud.com/teito_yokohama/sukebe i just remembered this is for u

Anonymous Mon Jul 29 22:30:54 2019 No.21784686

>>21784436
that works too :) i just wanted to make the point that once you get a pretty good grasp on what it's like (words can help a lot but their purpose is just to point to the body sensations or remind you what to do, the words themselves are not the experience), all that's left is repeatedly turning your attention back to that felt experience when you want to.

it's much easier to do when you're calm, your body isn't tense, and you're not distracted by too much noise/dialogue going on in your head. play around with it!

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 22:33:25 2019 No.21784696 File: 14 KB, 248x32, bokki.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>21784679 hes a character for sure

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 22:33:51 2019 No.21784698 quiet tranny

>>	moenigger Mon Jul 29 22:39:31 2019 No.21784731 File: 87 KB, 1520x1080, 1509817771029.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>21784658

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 22:42:30 2019 No.21784750 i def thought it wouldnt take 24 hours for one of u poor kids to ask for source

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 22:42:35 2019 No.21784752 >>21784744 >i was just trying to find diaper porn on youtube?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 22:43:45 2019 No.21784759 >>21784752 on google

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 22:48:07 2019 No.21784779 >>21784756 >what is ur PRoblem what is UR problem? girls are cute esp like that >>21784764 thats definitely not cute but definitely one of my fav clips, imagine that guy had grand kids and they see that jesus christ

Anonymous Mon Jul 29 22:49:20 2019 No.21784784

>>21784654
they're both bad
qm pretends his narcissistic delusions are ironic when everyone knows by now they're not
wording your honest opinion as a joke so you can weasel out of taking responsibility for it is the behaviour of a coward
nuke is perhaps the single worst example of a dekinai on the internet
he knows he is shit at japanese and is the last person anyone should be listening to but he takes patreon money in exchange for telling people how to learn a language he has tried and failed to learn for over a decade anyway

fuck e-celebs

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 22:50:21 2019 No.21784788 >>21784756 how did you get your boomer hands on japanese stuff way back then grandpa?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 22:51:22 2019 No.21784792 >>21784788 especially how did you learn of the existence of eroge and such?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 22:53:57 2019 No.21784802 >>21784736 any opportunity i have to post quizMASTER destroying his opposition, i will take. eff you >>21784784 stop defending nuke.

>>	moenigger Mon Jul 29 22:57:13 2019 No.21784812 how do quizlets justify making subs2srs cards manually

>>	makopi Mon Jul 29 23:00:09 2019 No.21784823 & eroge females are 99% men projecting and 1% seiyuu voicing the lines they have been given. It is quite the predicament.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 23:01:13 2019 No.21784826 all the cool kids in my day got hooked on flash dating sims before they even watched anime and then they put 2 and 2 together and were playin their first eroge at like 13 inbetween episodes of naurto

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 23:01:28 2019 No.21784827 >>21784813 nice, don't let him get away with being a nasty person who could cause someone to feel really bad

>>	makopi Mon Jul 29 23:01:30 2019 No.21784828 NO offense to the seiyus im sure you ahve more percents! It's a pseudo-mathematical hyperbole!

Anonymous Mon Jul 29 23:01:49 2019 No.21784830

>>21784808
>vhs and laser disc my ninja
can't have been easy to come by in the west though, right?

>also i didnt really find erogaming till i played tokimemo on the psx and found out more about these newfangled dating sim things
this sort of thing especially
there's no english release. how did you end up with a game in full nihongo in your possession as (presumably) an american?
did you already know japanese before you got it?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 23:02:59 2019 No.21784832 do you guys think japs like to put wolves so much in their fiction cause they feel guilty for killing all of them in japan?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 23:03:03 2019 No.21784833 please stop responding to him like you actually believe hes 69 or discovered eroge in the 80s holy FUCK you stupid FUCKING NIGGERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>>	moenigger Mon Jul 29 23:03:50 2019 No.21784837 who

>>	makopi Mon Jul 29 23:04:04 2019 No.21784839 Why would anyone stop responding to jamal? You'll miss a banger.

>>	moenigger Mon Jul 29 23:14:15 2019 No.21784878 File: 1.43 MB, 1600x900, file.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 23:16:28 2019 No.21784886 i'll monopolize your asshole with my foot

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 23:24:02 2019 No.21784902 just finished soras route that was the saddest one so far need koko-chan to cheer me up ;(

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 23:24:10 2019 No.21784905 >>21784882 i didn't doubt you before but your story is pretty convincing. i believe even more now that you really are an og weeb. (i'm still leaning towards the 1969 thing as being a joke though)

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 23:26:02 2019 No.21784907 >>21784905 anyone with a passing knowledge of what the world was like before the internet could say the same shit. im sure jamals a boomer but let's not get ahead of ourselves

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 23:29:12 2019 No.21784915 i wonder what ntr was spittin in the 90s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=auHiG8AueBs&t=176

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 23:35:09 2019 No.21784932 how the fuck do i make more caps if i have such low bartering

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 23:36:28 2019 No.21784937 you guys are just jealous nuke-chan is living at マイペース, taking it easy, and enjoying his life. stop hating

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 23:39:28 2019 No.21784944 >>21784940 im saying if someone telling you basic facts about life prior to the internet convinces you they're old then you must be very easily convinced

Anonymous Mon Jul 29 23:40:57 2019 No.21784949

without the pressure of having to understand spoken japanese (i don't listen it's gay), and because i don't read a lot every day, it is taking me a long time to internalize grammar. even if i get it, it often requires i think about it for a few seconds. at this rate i will not get to mattvsjapan's level. fuck guys.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 23:42:10 2019 No.21784952 File: 18 KB, 297x200, FF0D0C9C-B27A-11E9-B8DB-16DC48AA4010.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>21784949 lol just give up now you're not even gonna reach nuke-chans level bro

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 23:42:32 2019 No.21784954 i think i just need to go and finish tae kim or a text book or some shit. even reading 6 hours a day there's still so much grammar i dont understand

>>	moenigger Mon Jul 29 23:46:04 2019 No.21784965 >>21784939 he's just posted though

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 23:46:27 2019 No.21784966 >>21784960 im not doubting what you're saying is true? just that guy is an idiot for supposedly doubting you then changing his mind because you mentioned some common knowledge shit

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 23:48:40 2019 No.21784973 >>21784965 good news or bad

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 23:48:40 2019 No.21784974 >>21784954 best way to acquire grammar is by listening a lot!

>>	moenigger Mon Jul 29 23:50:13 2019 No.21784982 >>21784973 https://twitter.com/JapaneseGaryBen

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 23:50:17 2019 No.21784984 >>21784971 you've never lead me around i intellectually pulverize you every time. i'm on a 365+ day winning streak. i lost count cuz it got so fucking boring schooling you

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 23:50:34 2019 No.21784985 i think the music in ever17 is good since that seems to be a topic here currently

>>	moenigger Mon Jul 29 23:52:44 2019 No.21784999 i can no longer enjoy vns

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 23:53:54 2019 No.21785004 >>21784999 let's talk about this dude why is this

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 23:55:50 2019 No.21785016 google translate is uncanilly accurate for what it is

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 23:55:52 2019 No.21785017 File: 76 KB, 591x1191, Untitled.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>21784982 i've never been so motivated to learn a language LET'S FUCKING GOOOOO

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 23:55:52 2019 No.21785018 File: 45 KB, 741x500, here i sit broken hearted.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>21784993 nuke wants to read with audio but nuke wont read voiced eroge whats his fuckin problem >>21784999 what are the last things u tried

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 23:57:44 2019 No.21785028 >>21785016 bing is surprisingly more accurate, so use that instead.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 23:58:17 2019 No.21785030 >>21784944 it's not just that but also his knowledge of specific old eroge (+dating sims) the act is too elaborate. why bother? why go to all the effort of gathering knowledge of 90s eroge just to troll djt?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 23:58:31 2019 No.21785032 >>21784999 you could never

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 23:59:27 2019 No.21785038 >>21784966 >for supposedly doubting you i said the exact opposite of that though >>21784905 >i didn't doubt you before >didn't

>>	moenigger Tue Jul 30 00:00:21 2019 No.21785041 >>21785032 stfu

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 30 00:00:31 2019 No.21785042 File: 117 KB, 1136x820, any.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Darn it. Now I have to use nazeka for a more accurate frequency list alongside yomichan. Hopefully I can learn at twice the speed now.

Anonymous Tue Jul 30 00:04:45 2019 No.21785071

>>21785042
why not just use nazeka? do you really need a fucking pitch accent dictionary when you're reading?

and for a j-j you can just use shinmeikai in nazeka instead. but really, why bother bloating your popup when j-e is way faster and does the job just fine in 99% of cases?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 30 00:04:54 2019 No.21785073 >>21785042 parts per million?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 30 00:07:33 2019 No.21785079 >>21785042 my frequency list is that feelin that tells me ive seen this word somewhere else >>21785071 lmfao subvocalizing with wrong pitch have fun permanently crippling urself

Anonymous Tue Jul 30 00:14:10 2019 No.21785109

>>21785071
>pitch accent dictionary
i had been keeping track of pitch accent for some words but i haven't been using it lately since i decided i can work on it later if i care to. it's just something i hadn't bothered disabling until now.
>why not just use nazeka?
the lack of text highlighting on hover bothers me, and the various elements within the popup look much more similar than in yomichan because yomichan uses colored backgrounds. everything looks much more uniform in nazeka's popup. it takes me like 500+ milliseconds longer to find the information i want at a glance. also i like that yomichan's popup is contained in a box you can scroll through. i understand these are all decisions wareya made so that nazeka is lightweight. it's probably good for most people but i'm autistic.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 30 00:14:10 2019 No.21785110 >>21785017 great advices! thanks for sharing

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 30 00:21:09 2019 No.21785143 >>21785109 you can turn sticky mode on nazeka and it becomes a scrollable box too

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 30 00:22:18 2019 No.21785150 lol if u actually care about pitch accent why on earth are you reading

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 30 00:23:25 2019 No.21785154 File: 310 KB, 1536x980, たどく.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] 多読の体験者

>>	moenigger Tue Jul 30 00:26:29 2019 No.21785170 File: 7 KB, 225x225, 1539926400158.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>21785150

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 30 00:30:16 2019 No.21785184 File: 306 KB, 402x474, Ever17PC_UbJdV8peeP.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] caring about pitch accent when you don't even know japanese is big dekinai energy lol im sure all that pitch accent knowledge will come in handy in a decade or two

>>	makopi Tue Jul 30 00:34:29 2019 No.21785198 I've actually lost the feeling of learning Japanese a month ago. I just understand it or something. It doesn't matter to me.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 30 00:34:52 2019 No.21785200 >>21785150 i was jokin but i dont see the relation ?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 30 00:35:11 2019 No.21785201 >>21785198 why are you still here then?

>>	makopi Tue Jul 30 00:42:14 2019 No.21785230 >>21785201 I wanted to shitpost about moenigger and now idek jamal gave the feels. In short, you guessed it, for the namefaggotry.

makopi Tue Jul 30 00:53:16 2019 No.21785269

I was concerned with pitch accent from day -1 because I wanted to pronounce Japanese names within the Russian language as close to the original as possible and that involved figuring out their accentuation. I didn't know anything about the theory of pitch accent; I'd just listen to how they are pronounced. Later on I noticed I would subvocalize sentences like shit if I didn't know the good intonation for them & hearing a new word or phrase pronounced properly would always feel like a revelation so pitch accent ftw honestly it is one of the most intuitive and somehow most rewarding parts of the language.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 30 00:55:46 2019 No.21785279 Do /djt/ have a chatroom? Discord? Telegram group?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 30 00:56:01 2019 No.21785282 i think pitch accent is aight but im too fuckin lazy to put any time into it

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 30 00:56:56 2019 No.21785285 >>21785279 Nevermind, stupid me...

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 30 00:58:09 2019 No.21785293 this is the chat room

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 30 00:59:32 2019 No.21785300 >>21784744 >white girl writing in Japanese i puke

Anonymous Tue Jul 30 01:00:47 2019 No.21785303

king matt says he picked it up in a few months so i don't see the point in focusing heavily on it now. i check the pitch accent for words i learn and try to pronounce shit accurately but im not gonna spend time focusing on it when im not even at the point where i fully understand everything people are saying anyway. i imagine it will be much easier to focus on it when understanding japanese is just second nature to me like english

>>	makopi Tue Jul 30 01:02:21 2019 No.21785310 >>21785282 you don't really put time in it. you just try to be less of an idiot gaijin about hearing the language and then the acoustic/phonemic image of it in your brain finally reaches its full extent

>>	makopi Tue Jul 30 01:05:43 2019 No.21785328 >>21785303 You either hear it or you don't. It's that simple.

>>	Quizmaster Tue Jul 30 01:10:06 2019 No.21785340 I may have gotten a bit carried away in that nuke thing and not been entirely in my senses it is just indeed that I can hardly excuse his existence and his attitude pisses me off

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 30 01:13:33 2019 No.21785351 >>21785328 you could say that about anything at all in language learning. your brain adapts based on exposure and focus. you can come to hear something if you understand it better

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 30 01:13:52 2019 No.21785353 >>21785340 Seeing you blow a gasket like that is pretty cool though, Nuke's basically collecting checks for stealing content

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 30 01:15:17 2019 No.21785357 なつばてでたべられないおなかすかない

>>	moenigger Tue Jul 30 01:16:27 2019 No.21785364 >>21785340 are you a manchild with anger issues (just asking)

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 30 01:17:46 2019 No.21785370 >>21785357 うなぎにしようか

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 30 01:18:00 2019 No.21785371 I just found the juiciest, crunchiest, leafiest of all bangers Behold https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pizw3Wf8MHM

>>	makopi Tue Jul 30 01:18:02 2019 No.21785372 >>21785351 I just don't understand what "dedicating time to pitch accent" means. Apart from reading about it real quick + checking a few examples from forvo. Like, just keep doing everything normally? You'll hear it now.

>>	makopi Tue Jul 30 01:21:21 2019 No.21785378 Or u mean there are people who would ankidrone it instead of JUST LISTENING? My condolences!

>>	moenigger Tue Jul 30 01:22:20 2019 No.21785380 but are you redpilled on verb conjugation pitch accent

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 30 01:25:23 2019 No.21785389 >>21785372 russian probably has something similar since you said you wanted to know about it immediately when learning so it must be easier for you to hear

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 30 01:28:23 2019 No.21785399 >>21785370 おなかにやさしいものおねがいします

Anonymous Tue Jul 30 01:30:53 2019 No.21785405

I'm a fan of all things Japanese, I'm planning to take up the N3 exam in the month of December (N4 is too basic). I have learnt hiragana and 50% of Katakana. I'm staring with Kanji radicals now.

I need your help in figuring out an effective and efficient way to prep for the exam, while working a day job and balancing other areas of my life. Right now, I'm winging the preparation process.

I'm planning to take a month off from work to prep before the exam but I want to be fluent before that last month.

Please share your tips and opinions. It'll help me out a lot.

Thank you.

Anonymous Tue Jul 30 01:34:24 2019 No.21785425

I just introduced my monolingual granparents to duolingo because they told me they want to learn another language. Have I committed an unforgivable sin?

>>21785405
This looks like a reddit post, but I'll give a serious piece of advice:
Read a lot. Listen to plenty of stuff. It doesn't matter what it is, as long as you like it.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 30 01:36:56 2019 No.21785437 >>21785405 maybe he should focus on getting to n6 first

Anonymous Tue Jul 30 01:38:00 2019 No.21785442

>>21785425
Depends what language(s) they're after. LingoDeer is better if they want an Asian language, but overall, no, DuoLingo is structured in a good way for people who've never studied language to get a taste.

Also, yeah, it was a reddit repost. Most people actually dunked on him for thinking he'd get that far that quickly, was nice to see. Much better than the usual ひらがな上手

makopi Tue Jul 30 01:38:44 2019 No.21785445

>>21785380
I took the whole bottle.

>>21785389
Russian has unpredictable dynamic stress that moves within inflectional paradigms (according to many patterns), but it is differently made from the Japanese pitch accent, though both are ultimately similar in that they're poorly predictable, unwritten, and you just have to know them.

Anonymous Tue Jul 30 01:40:17 2019 No.21785455

I'm retarded, what is the actual difference between hiragana and katakana besides how they're written??? Obvious newfag here but i'm reading through the beginners guide and all it says is that katana are like italicized versions??? What use do they have

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 30 01:43:08 2019 No.21785464 >>21785455 Hiragana is used for native Japanese words or cute characters. Katakana is used for 外国語 or characters with a strong 外人 accent.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 30 01:46:12 2019 No.21785470 >>21785455 You'll find that any hard and fast rule is going to be broken often by Japanese people. Try not to worry about them being different, because ultimately they're just methods of writing sounds. >>21785464 This is generally correct though

>>	moenigger Tue Jul 30 01:48:08 2019 No.21785474 >>21785455 you have to learn them to read

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 30 01:48:57 2019 No.21785477 >>21785464 So you mean you would use katakana for words that don't have a direct translation into actual jap words? Along with whatever you mean by 外人 accent? >>21785470 Epic I suppose

>>	makopi Tue Jul 30 01:49:24 2019 No.21785479 >>21785445 Now that I think of it Russians are in general quite anal about pronunciation. You grow up being corrected on your accent and correcting others on theirs pretty much on every occasion. Very high awareness.

Anonymous Tue Jul 30 01:56:03 2019 No.21785508

>>21785477
Katakana is used for:
a) loanwords/names from Western languages (like パソコン and バイト)
b) emphasizing the fact that somebody has a strong non-Japanese accent (in other words, that they sound like they're from Texas or Moscow)
c) highlighting "brusque" speech (imagine a ヤンキー saying "オレ" or "チカズクンナー!").

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 30 02:01:00 2019 No.21785528 >>21785455 katana is sword.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 30 02:08:48 2019 No.21785544 >>21785508 and more !

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 30 02:09:00 2019 No.21785546 y'all ever take a big ass shit and it took all your japanese gains for the day with it

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 30 02:12:01 2019 No.21785556 >>21785544 No, I think that's pretty much it.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 30 02:16:26 2019 No.21785567 how much of a meme is passive listening?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 30 02:22:05 2019 No.21785579 File: 118 KB, 480x596, 1561359886164.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] What the fuck Jisho is down how am I supposed to look up words now?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 30 02:23:14 2019 No.21785581 File: 27 KB, 466x33, kokoro.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>21785556 is it a strong accent or brusque speech when someone says アタシ ? what about taxonomy animal and plant names what about this

Anonymous Tue Jul 30 02:33:08 2019 No.21785595

>>21785579
Use goo.ne.jp or weblio
>>21785581
>is it a strong accent or brusque speech when someone says アタシ ?
It might be some kind of rise in terms of volume, or off-tone speech.
>what about taxonomy animal and plant names
They fall under foreign loanwords, since most of them are derived from Greek/Latin.
>what about this
It might highlight the oddness of that word's specific usage, probably as an allusion to the title of that novel written by 夏目漱石

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 30 02:40:07 2019 No.21785603 >>21784659 For sure. My product review is there now, too, so please read it! https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B07L4WN41Q/

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 30 02:46:06 2019 No.21785620 「……うわきもの……すけこまし……たねうま……えろがっぱ……へんたい……しきま……こうしょく……しきじょうきょう……」

Anonymous Tue Jul 30 02:47:03 2019 No.21785626

>>21785595
rise in volume or off tone isnt covered by your original list
バラ isnt foreign to my knowledge and im sure there are many others
and the quote is discussing the meaning of the word 残心
im only sayin i dont think u can sum up katakana usage in such a short way
but i dont think u need to either

Anonymous Tue Jul 30 02:50:05 2019 No.21785630
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>>21785017
>You can easily meet people on the internet today who acquired a second language without ever leaving the country
if we include people whose second language is english, then people meet many more of them than they realize too

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 30 03:01:31 2019 No.21785663 >>21785630 >people >ESLs anon, don't be ridiculous

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 30 03:05:10 2019 No.21785675 >>21785630 l2 speakers 120000 when ever language surrounding it is in the tens of millions. Guess there's no getting past it: we're learning a meme language.

Anonymous Tue Jul 30 03:06:16 2019 No.21785678

I was learning for 6 months without this and noticed a ridiculous uptake in my ability to parse spoken Japanese after immersing myself in it all the time.

Japanese music mostly. Anime on in the background while busy. I turned all my phone contacts into katanaka, and Siri speaks Japanese for me now. My Nintendo Switch is in Japanese even though I don’t know everything on the menus. I write labels on common things around my house to familiarize myself with their Japanese names in the moment. I use Japanese greetings and goodbyes with my friends who have no idea what I’m saying until I explain. I will drone on for five minutes about something I learned to someone who isn’t entirely excited, and just being able to express it aloud helps me retain the info. I pull out my phone and type random shit into the Jisho app literally all day every day. Immersion is priceless.

I am on a discord server with beginners, both Japanese and English learners. It’s a tremendous help too

Though I do feel with the split between eastern and western civilizations, it’s also highly beneficial to study the culture underlying the language. The language very closely mimics the atmosphere of the people, as with most languages I’m sure but it’s very pronounced for me with nihongo!

Anonymous Tue Jul 30 03:17:33 2019 No.21785698

>>21785675
It's just the best data they have, there are obviously a lot more than 121k speakers. Over 20k people have passed N1 on almost every period since 2H 2010, and JLPT certificates don't expire so I doubt it's the same 20k people taking the test every time.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 30 03:23:15 2019 No.21785701 >>21785630 check out ur real meme language >Native: estimated 1000 to several thousand (2016)[1][2] >L2 users: estimates range from 63 000[3]to two million[4]

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 30 03:25:40 2019 No.21785707 >>21785701 >1000 Can't be the real language of a country, and I doubt you're calling a dead language a meme, so it has to be Esperanto.

>>	moenigger Tue Jul 30 03:26:25 2019 No.21785709 >>21785675 japanesepod101 has over 1 million subs why arent they counted lol

>>	moenigger Tue Jul 30 03:30:16 2019 No.21785718 File: 36 KB, 648x173, file.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] every single nihngo learner is subscribed to george

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 30 03:45:00 2019 No.21785752 >>21785698 Passing N1 doesn't mean you're fluent though, especially with the huge amounts of Chinese people who "learn" Japanese and have an easier time with reading which is the only thing JLPT really tests

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 30 03:48:32 2019 No.21785758 >>21785752 Those 753 million L2 English speakers aren't necessarily fluent speakers.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 30 03:52:56 2019 No.21785769 >>21785758 At what level am I L2 then? Whenever I decide I've "learned"?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 30 03:55:54 2019 No.21785774 >>21785752 there are different types of fluency. speaking, reading, listening. you can be fluent in one and not the other

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 30 04:01:57 2019 No.21785785 >>21785405 無理

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 30 04:05:15 2019 No.21785793 boy it’s a great day to be a nigger!

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 30 04:09:41 2019 No.21785801 >>21785630 >Mandarin Chinese >language

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 30 04:14:13 2019 No.21785811 >>21785801 You could also argue that Chilean Spanish and Spanish Spanish are different languages.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 30 04:15:48 2019 No.21785816 >>21785811 theyre at least mutually intelligible though

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 30 04:36:51 2019 No.21785844 >>21785675 Retard, millions of Chinese,Koreans, and Vietnamese know or are learning Japanese. The JLPT is in the hundreds of thousands each year in that group. English speakers learning Japanese in the niche.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 30 06:05:02 2019 No.21785998 File: 44 KB, 1024x576, 1561571247014.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>21784667 based you're welcome

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 30 06:23:12 2019 No.21786040 File: 48 KB, 453x230, 2019-07-30 12_22_16-000327.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] hm yes very epic my good sir

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 30 06:27:51 2019 No.21786058 File: 26 KB, 220x229, 1541869691434.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>21786040

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 30 06:53:20 2019 No.21786159 New thread?

>>	makopi Tue Jul 30 07:06:29 2019 No.21786219 >>21785624 the kanji don't mean that lol

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