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I'll just leave this here...

>> No.2166964

BFF

>> No.2166979
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Yukarin would never do that to her beloved Reimu

>> No.2166995

...................................................................YAWN.

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>>2166979
I like where this thread is going.

>> No.2167016

She's just pulling some Alucard shit so Reimu'll agree to become youkai to be saved so Yukari can be with her for thousands of years to come.

>> No.2167043

Yukari is future Reimu. I called it here first.

>> No.2167062

>>2167016
there is a disturbing lack of stories that have a character giving in to the immortal and becoming immortal in the process. i only really noticed this recently with the last episode of zoku natsume yuujinchou.

>> No.2167068

>>2167062
That's a great show, too. Though it does repeat a lot of themes with the new season.

Nothing beats Tsubame. He should've made her his shikigami, even if she was completely useless. She was super sweet.

>> No.2167073

>>2167068
>Tsubame
Thanks for reminding me faget, now my eyes are all watery. ;_;

>> No.2167078

>>2167062
A /jp/ anon once said he wanted a story about Marisa becoming a youkai magician without knowing it, gradually through exposure to magic. Then one day she sees Reimu's aging face and realizes "Oh shit, I'm a youkai". Someone needs to do that shit. Obviously it needs some fleshing out, but it could be pretty good.

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>>2166929
Great thread OP. Post all your deadest touhous

>> No.2167093

>>2167073
Taki will never end up with him, either, even though she's the perfect second match. Madara/Natori end confirmed.

The mangaka should simultaneously end herself but also continue writing more.

>> No.2167095

>>2167062
following up on this idea, i would really like a show like natsume yuujinchou except the main character is/has recently become immortal. a slow show like it could really be interesting with the main character slowly loosing track of time with larger and larger breaks between episodes until it is eventually a break of 60+ years or something.

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>>2167085
They don't get deader than this.

>> No.2167110

>>2167093
Nyanko-sensei permanently in his schoolgirl form End please.

>> No.2167107

>>2167078
Wouldn't Reimu become a Youkai too? She's been exposed to their powers for a lot of time too.

>> No.2167117

>>2167107
Look, man, I never said it was an air-tight plot.

>> No.2167148

>>2167107

Marisa is a witch and we know that she'd become a magician youkai like Alice and Patchouli. But there is no spiritual youkai as far as I know, I think Reimu would enlighten and ascend to heaven before she became a Youkai. If she dies of old age she just gets another turn on the karmic wheel.

>> No.2167151

>>2167062
There's that one with sakuya and remilia

>> No.2167157

>>2167107
Reimu has purifying powers so an excess youkai magic is purified when it's around her. Alice doesn't have said powers so it just hits her full force.

>> No.2167170

This is relevant to my interest

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>> No.2167203

>>2167016

http://touhou.wikia.com/wiki/Asatsuki_Dou#Laughing_Crescent_Moon_.282007-03-21.29

>> No.2167204

Anyone have that youkai reimu pic where she has like gaps and shit, with broken signs popping out and whatnot. She was like a Yukari in training.

>> No.2167221

>>2167204
That's probably Meimu.

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>>2167204
This one?

>> No.2167240

>>2167227
That's not it.
But I find it hilarious how it fits the description I gave to a tee. Can't blame you there.

>> No.2167258

>>2167203
I like my touhou manga grim and dark

>> No.2167263

>>2167203
bitch tears.

>> No.2167268

Here's my theory. Yukari was the previous shrine maiden of the shrine and is reimu's ancestor who gave into temptation and became a youkai.

Yuyuko and Yukari were friends when they where human.

>> No.2167288

>>2167203
WOW THAT'S PRETTY GRIM AND DARK THERE

>> No.2167296

>>2167268
Here's my theory: Your theory sucks.

>> No.2167298

>>2166929
SWR: when 66C goes wrong.

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>>2167227
She looked more like this.

>> No.2167304

>>2167268
I guess Sealing Needle and Yukari's Needle are rather similiar...

>> No.2167305

>>2167107

I suppose you could argue that Marisa uses magic in the traditional sense where Reimu (and most youkai) uses spiritual power. Magicians are set aside from normal youkai in that sense and given their own species because they use magic, not spiritual power.

To that end you could say that Reimu's powers shouldn't corrupt her where perhaps magic could for Marisa. That said, it's another popular idea that Reimu herself could become a youkai through Yukari and the necessity for there to be a shrine maiden if Reimu doesn't have someone to take over for her when she gets old.

Everyone has their immortality ticket. Sakuya could become a vampire, Marisa could become a magician and Reimu could be altered by Yukari. Other humans in the series has some special quality or other that makes them not entirely traditionally human. Mokou is immortal, Sanae is the descendant of a god, Youmu is already half ghost, Keine is only half human, half werecow. Akyu reincarnates.

>> No.2167306

>>2167303
looking pretty badass there reimu

>> No.2167307

>>2167062
contrary to popular belief, when faced with the possiblity of being alive when the last star burns out and being the last thing alive, people tend to not want to

>> No.2167310

>>2167268
Chado's theory is much better than your theory.

>> No.2167312

>>2167305
I just realized how stupid the characters are.

>> No.2167314

>>2167305
>Youmu is already half ghost
how is this NOT like having one foot in the grave?

>> No.2167333

>>2167307
what i was talking about was the eternal youth flavor of immortality where you die when you are killed. just that you tend to be a little harder to kill than most.

>> No.2167339

>>2167307
two things wrong with that.
First off, many "immortals" in gensokyo just have infinite longevity, they can still be physically killed.
The only ones for which this isn't the case is Kaguya and Mokou. Which leads to the second thing wrong with that: You will never be the last thing left alive, as these two are also immortal forever, so there'd always be at least two left.

>> No.2167348

>>2167314
Because half-ghosts live much longer than normal humans, ironically.

>> No.2167349

>>2167314
In Touhouverse, death does absolutely nothing.

>> No.2167355

>>2167312

You are only realising this now in a fairy tale setting where STEALING A ENTIRE SEASON is possible?

>>2167314

I mentioned the others in the sense more for the sense they already had a claim that doesn't make them entirely human, not that they are necessarily immortal. Youmu however does get to live longer for some reason because of her ghost form which is enough to keep her around for as long as the game is going to go on for. Even then, she's Yuyuko's servant. If there is no one to replace Youmu it wouldn't surprise me if there were attempts to keep Youmu around as a complete ghost, but I'm not sure how that works with the comments made in PoFV.

Point is, normal humans don't really happen in Touhou and everyone has options or something special. Unless you happen to be Maribel and Renko, then you are only kind of special, even that has odd theories around it.

>> No.2167358

>>2167349
great. now i have the image of death from family guy just being drunk off his ass all day.

>> No.2167360

>>2167305
Everyone can become a ghost and party if they wanted to.

>> No.2167363

>>2167339
The only ones who are ageless but not immortal are the lunarians. All youkai have lifespans, celestials cheat death so they don't count I guess, and Yamada and Komachi are out of the question. Correct me if I'm wrong.

>> No.2167368

>>2167363
What about Remilia/Flandre?

>> No.2167374

>>2167363
Yama have a lifespan.

>> No.2167389

>>2167349

Death in Touhou is generally as permanent as any other as I understand it. It's just we know a lot more about how they are processed afterwards. The only people who are actually killed are the ones who are completely immune to it. Assuming you actually die in Touhou it then becomes a matter of what happens next through the systems of judgement with only a few notable figures getting work around for this, oddly Youmu seems to be one of those examples. Mokou and Kaguya are completely immune to the afterlife for better or worse, Akyu simply reincarnates into her child or something, not sure exactly how it works but basically it's still working. Everyone else mostly doesn't age but can be killed... except maybe the gods, but even they fade away without faith.

Touhou gets around death through the spellcard system. That's it really. If a Touhou dies, they usually die for real ;_;

>> No.2167390

>>2167374
Actually, let me reword that.

I'm not sure if Yama have a lifespan in the ZUNverse, but otherwise, they do.

>> No.2167396

>>2167204
Still looking btw.
It's probably up on danbooru, but I can't search for shit anything on that site.

>> No.2167400

>>2167363

Has this actually been confirmed in Touhou? I keep hearing how they are meant to be long lived and I remember that has been noted, but I generally thought they just lived longer then humans and Eirin especially long through longevity drugs she makes herself.

Granted, it's not like I've read every bit of Touhou fiction so I don't know for sure, but I wanted to know if this is canon fact or something that people theorised in doujin works.

>> No.2167409

>>2167368

Dunno exactly what Touhou makes of vampires, but if they are based on traditional ideas they should be ageless abominations against life. Still, they die if they are killed (gb2shirou).

>> No.2167411

>>2167400
Cage in Lunatic Runagate says that the moon is free of impurities, which are what causes aging on Earth. So living things on the moon do not age.

It's not that they're lunarians that make them immortal, it's just that they're on the moon.

>> No.2167414

>>2167400
My interpretation is that Lunarians are close to human, but they do have a longer life-span and they have more advanced technology to keep themselves healthy.

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>> No.2167425

>>2167400
It has been mentioned on CiLR chapter 3:

"Lord Tsukuyomi took only those relatives he had the utmost trust in and moved to the moon. The moon was completely without impurity. As a result, those who had moved to the moon forsook any lifespan. That they had no lifespan meant they were neither alive nor dead. In that sense, the moon may be a Pure Land without impurity, that is to say, the same as the world after death."

However now that I read it more carefully... the last part does mention they are not completely pure.

"Of course, since the lunar citizens and the moon rabbits aren't immortal, they can die in, for example, accidents or battles. Still, even the citizens of the lunar capital bear just the faintest trace of impurity. Even we may be fated to live out our lives and die some day."

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