DJT — Daily Japanese Thread #2200

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Guide: https://itazuraneko.neocities.org/
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Old thread:
>>21594834

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>>21604951
>D/a/ily
Good times.

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WATCH JAV FOR IMMERSION & MOTIVATION!

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>listen to the first 5 lines of shingeki no kyojin
>"I can't understand most of this"
>read it
>understand it all
;LADKJSF;LAKJSDF;LAKJS;FLKJASDP;FLKJAS D;FLKJAIC;FLJW

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>>21605042
Anyone have subs for terrace house season 5 and up?

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>>21605042
>read it
Manga is not reading.

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>>21605061
i didn't say anything about the manga. i'm talking about the subtitles. which you'd probably consider the same but get your facts straight faggo

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should have been reading visual novels then your listening would have been on par

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>>21605071
i did, didn't do anything

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>>21605064
Subtitles isn't reading either.

[moenigger No.]

read over 100 pages of manga today

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>>21605085
>read
End your life.

[moenigger No.]

gonna read more manga

[moenigger No.]

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Going to masturbate to more eroges

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Am I the only one who think that reading manga is harder than light novels or visual novels ? It's fuckin hard to cbeck words you don't know and the style can be weird sometimes

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>>21605119
Yeah. I can read VNs fine, but with Manga I start one and after a few pages I want to drop it. I've read barely a few chapters of manga in years. Looking up words sucks.

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wish i was a sick programmer so i could make a daiweeb equivalent for manga or at least some way to use yomichan on it

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sometimes i feel like the fact that i did traditional RTK was such a huge waste of time but then i remember pic related and feel a bit relieved.

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>>21605155
Someone already did, I think, but didn't share the code.

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>>21604855
>i'm saying why do you care how little kids go through public education when you're an adult?
the people i was replying to said “only stupid gayjin keep track of kanji”
the only reason i brought up the japanese education system was to correct their blatant ignorance.
>there are plenty of foreigner adults who learn how to read japanese by.... reading
and i never claimed otherwise...? but that being said the tracking system doesn’t exist just for reading but also so they can focus on learning how to write them and test that writing ability in a systematic way

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>>21605157
It's nice knowing that RTKfags are also furfags.

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>>21605119
>>21605126
>>21605155
So you guys basically don't know about KanjiTomo uh ?

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>>21605171
Kanjitomo fucking sucks though

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>>21605119
It's fuckin hard to cbeck words you don't know
how?
>>21605126
pussies lol
i've been reading manga since i started
over 50 volumes now
i'm glad i didn't spoil myself with addiction to text hookers like you guys
manual lookups builds character. and also gives you chances to recall other words with the same kanji and get faster at typing in japanese in general

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>>21605177
>manual lookups builds character.
lmao i cant even, god you're such a pathetic fuckin loser

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>>21605192
it was a fucking joke/hyperbole lol
how socially inept do you have to be to take everything you read on 4chan that seriously

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Is there anyway to automatically make Anki cards with audio from online dictionaries?

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yomichan spammers all worked up and defensive

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>>21605208
yomichan and ankiconnect

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>>21605204
there is no such thing as hyperbole in this fucking thread you gaping asshole

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>>21605218
you sound mentally challenged
diagnosed?

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>>21605224
you're the retarded one if you don't think what i said is true

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>>21605229
yeahh take a break from the internet for a while and work on getting that retardation checked out

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guys when did you start reading? (LN/VN)
just want to check if I'm retarded

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read instead of being meanies to each other

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>>21605293
immediately after RTK.

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what's with all the angry dickheads in here lately

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>>21605298
when did you finish rtk?

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>>21605296
what's this anime

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>>21605293
had ~1000 words in core

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>>21605318
知らないでもとても可愛いだ

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fuck

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daily reminder that learning japanese using japanese is ideal when you get to the level where it's possible
make the monolingual transition

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lol u mad

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>>21605293
after i'd already read 20 or so manga volumes
mostly slice of life moe girl shit

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Doing RTK before learning vocabulary/grammar and consuming Japanese media is like reading the Pokédex before playing Pokémon.

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>>21605318
>>21605348
Ok I looked it up for you and actually it's 灼熱の卓球娘. So basically I guess it's cute girls doing ping pong

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>>21605356
i only read for a certain time period per day so if i spent more time reading definitions than the material i'm interested in then that would really suck. maybe 18+ months in i'll use japanese dictionaries.

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i mean just use whatever makes most sense maybe a concept can be easily grasped with an english word or maybe a japanese explanation gives you a better idea of something or sometimes its better to google image search some stuff like nouns or certain verbs and colors

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>>21605356
everything before that is the nightmare realm.. misserably slow and forced gains only
it's impressive babies make it through that

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>>21605363
You definitely get some autistic level beneficial knowledge to the game

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>>21605363
オッケー
ナイス

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>>21605364
thanks

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>helping a guy who namefags as moenigger

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>Who are you quoting?

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>>21605365
>if i spent more time reading definitions
if it takes you more than 4 seconds to read a 15 character definition then you're not ready for the monolingual transition anyway
>when you get to the level where it's possible

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>>21605293
From day 1. I started doing about 30 min a day at the start. Now I'm always reading something through out the day.

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>>21605367
this is true but monolingual transition doesn't have to mean all monolingual all the time
just means you default to the J to J dictionary before the english one
if the monolingual def is dumb/too complicated THEN you fall back on the secondary resources of which the J-E is now one of

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man, imagine reading a vn from start to finish and barely having to look up any words...

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>>21605439
how do the wizards itt reach that level it's crazy

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>>21605439
1 word every 5 minutes or less is my goal
technically i've already achieved that sometimes
but there are times it's every 30 seconds or more.
it really depends on the LN and the scene

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>>21605439
it'll be a glorious day when i reach that point

either that or it'll feel like nothing at all

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>>21605451
>it'll be a glorious day when i reach that point
>either that or it'll feel like nothing at all
do you currently set small goals for yourself and get excited when you achieve them?
if not then it will feel like nothing.

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>>21605439
this is my ultimate goal, as everyone here I guess, just like watching animes without subtitle or reading light novel without checking a single word but I started japanese because of all the great visual novel without translations

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>>21605469
not really, i just consume media and go about my day after im done

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>>21605435
>default to the J to J dictionary before the english one
Exactly. Depends what I'm reading but yea I keep in it monolingual until I start to run into too many unfamiliar words and for the sake of boredom I'll switch to english to speed it up. Also I like the fact that you can look up words from the definition entries with the j to j dict in kindle. Really helps to keep you in monolingual.

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having an episode of anime i already watched (all or partially) playing in the background while i'm on DJT is one of the best things i've started doing
i still don't count it into my daily study time but i can feel the 利益

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>>21605476
ok then it will feel like nothing lol

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>>21605480
placebo

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>>21605496
obecalp

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呼び捨てはよくないわ、後輩

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さて本番に入ろうか

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つまらない夢を抱く君は

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read a whole chapter of manga before sleeping because you have to relax and do non-reading sometimes too !

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>>21605539
what manga did you read

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>>21605560
I'm reading Pokemon manga (Red Chapters) so far so good, always heard that the manga was better than the anime and that the thematics were more mature. The language is still simple tho and it's kind of encouraging to realize that I don't really have to check most words.It's really relaxing !

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" こっちの水は甘い"
Where does this come from and what does it mean? I heard this in a few different songs now and apparently there is also a manga called こっちの水は甘いのだ
Is it like a figure of speech?

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>>21605634
must be what killua says when he transmutes water for the first time

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>>21604951
oh no don't tell me sakura autist is back

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>>21605293
5ish months after I decided to learn japanese

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>>21605293
>VN
Day 1 and it was hard at first but I was understanding quite a lot towards the end (after 4 months of reading it lmao).

>LN
6 months in and it was hard as fuck from start to finish. Even by the end I felt like I had barely improved.

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>>21605699
>Day 1
of starting to read, that is.

Prior to that, I watched Let's Learn Japanese Basic I and Visualizing Japanese Grammar.

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>>21605293
I started reading Nanatuiro Drops about a month after starting core6k, but it took me about two months to get through all of the routes in it spending about 40 min per day reading it.

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>>21605157
>pic
God, what an idiot.

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>>21605451
Wizard here, it most likely won't feel like anything at all to you. To reach a level that high you have to read a fuckload, and it's very gradual improvement along the way, so by the time you reach it you'll be doing the same stuff you've done constantly for like a year or more. It won't feel very special, it'll just be like, "oh huh I guess I'm at this point now" and that'll be that.

It's kind of unfortunate in a way just how mundane language becomes. I remember thinking "I will never get bored of reading anything Japanese, because just reading in another language is fun." Now that I've read 300+ Japanese books and the language courses through my blood like English, that sounds as silly as "I will never get bored of reading anything English" does.

Oh well. With mundanity comes practicality at least.

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>>21605699
What was the first VN you read?
What was your first LN?
Did you mine any words or phrases while reading them?

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>>21605802
>What was the first VN you read?
Flyable Heart

>What was your first LN?
Overlord

>Did you mine any words or phrases while reading them?
No

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still can't stop listening to yzerr
https://youtu.be/R8RdhiCG9mw

help me jamal

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>>21605802
>What was the first VN you read?
Hanahira
>What was your first LN?
Konosuba
>Did you mine any words or phrases while reading them?
A good rule of thumb is to not mine a word until you recognize that you've seen it before.

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seeing that focusing on more frequent and consistent, immersive and compelling input is the primary key to my further progression. i can't get that if i keep being distracted.
i have no idea how much i'm getting these days but it's not nearly as much as i could be if i wasn't wasting so much time.
so i'm going to start using this time tracking app to get a very clear picture of how i'm spending my time each day; numbers don't lie.
i don't have to do one of each thing every day or anything. just as much japanese stuff as i can with my undivided attention. any passive input like listening to anime in the background while browsing DJT, doesn't count for this. only time spent with my full attention on the thing. oh and of course, i'll be looking up anything i don't know or can't guess confidently, primarily using a J-J monolingual dictionary, but falling back on J-E or google when necessary.
i plan to drop the app when lots of input on a near-daily basis becomes habitual.

let's see how much i can get in the next 24 hours.

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Anybody got any passive immersion hearing material recommendations?

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>>21605848
any random youtube video since it's passive meaning you're not paying attention anyway

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>>21605802
>What was the first VN you read?
Shizuku
>What was your first LN?
Starting Shana soon
>Did you mine any words or phrases while reading them?
No

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>>21605848
>Passive
Basically this >>21605861
You can also go ahead and listen to a completely different language and get the same benefits.

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>>21605691
>>21605699
Ok then I'm not retard after all. I'm also 6 months and just started to read my first LN

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>>21605874
Damn, that makes me the retard then since I was referring to vns only, can someone recommend me a LN

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>>21605874
Well, I read my first LN (OniAi) 10 months after learning kana & reading some manga. I just never thought of doing it earlier.
Then again, I don't think I would've been anywhere near ready back when I couldn't recognize any words in kanji (besides 悪魔).

[moenigger No.]

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jesus christ why so many?

[moenigger No.]

more like why does eigo have so many words for demo

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>>21605986
You need to become more conformable with vagueness. That is not going to teach you japan語, reading will

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>>21605848
you should only do passive immersion using things you've already listened to once (preferably recently) actively, otherwise it's literally just background noise

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>>21604011
that is not sport, 武道。

武道とスポーツでは意味が違うんだ。

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楽しみ
楽しいだろうと期待する気持ち。「彼（カレ）と会うのが—だ」

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i don't tanoshimi
there's no kanojo to au

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>>21606069
you just made this up

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せんりゅうを書いてみないか？

DJTスレ
時の果てまで
よみがえる

[Anonymous No.]

DJTスレ
今回はもう
二万回

[Anonymous No.]

投稿を
別に誰にも
送ります

[Anonymous No.]

わたし
死ぬの日
楽しみ

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>>21606403
「死ぬの日」x
「死ぬ日」○
「死の日」○
also, get some help

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>>21606403
少年よ
死を招いたら
連れて来る

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>>21606447
good
i'm tired of waiting

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やっときた
願いしてたの
俺の死の日

[Anonymous No.]

息止めに
最後に気づく
生きたいな！

[Anonymous No.]

ダラダラの
日々の生活
は最高

[Anonymous No.]

How big brain do you need to be in successfully learning this?

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きのきいたことをいおうとしてやめた

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>>21606646
"How big of a brain do you need to have in order to successfully learn this?"

Fixed that for ya

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>>21606646
how big brain do you need to be to learn japanese
actual fix

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>>21605966
元気です

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>>21605986
theres 2 cases.

1) but.... (でも...)
2) even X (Xでも）

there, simplified it for yo ass

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>>21606718
ワット？何？

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>>21606770
you need a little bit of brains, a little bit of persistence, and a lot of dedication

I wrote a blog back when I started learning it. maybe it can motivate you
http://learningjapanesewithanonymous.blogspot.com/

its only really hard until a few months in when it 'clicks'. if you can buckle down and study hard every day, you can get to decent comprehension in a month

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>>21605896
I really liked AoButa manga and anime. Now I'm reading volumes 6-7 which the movie adapted. My plan is to read them before the bd release. If you liked that serie give it a try. really just read what you like

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>>21606832
Recommending people to do genki and follow JLPT levels seems kind of cringe, in my opinion.

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>>21606875
worked for me ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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>>21606824
きのこ

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>>21606899
きのこ食べたらめっちゃハイになるらしい
食べてみる？ Y/N

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>>21605634
it was written and composed by a school teacher abt 100 yrs ago and we sing even now
there is no document, but probably like "butterfly likes nectar",
the old era children believed that fireflies would also like "sweet water", i guess

meaning 甘い水 is "better/best/good place/condition", (butterflies like good river = water)
so often used as "誘惑-する/-される", but it is rarely used now.

本物のホタルの乱舞は貴重で幻想的なのだが、サイリウムの海で溺れるのも捨てがたい。
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QtEuxRgdJZs

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>>21605986
This is an awful guide compared to literally every other guide on the site.

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I'm having a problem with my Anki deck, no audio is playing when the cards come up, but if I click edit on the card and go to cards it'll play in that menu. Play Audio Automatically is checked. Any idea how to fix this?

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>>21606403
>>21606446
字足らず。

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>>21606940
Found the problem, AnkiDroid is just refusing to grab the audio files from Web.

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>>21606922
whyd u delete ur post anon?

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>>21606904
カエンタケ？

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Reminder that the OP guide is deprecated.

This is the new guide

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やらしくおねがいします

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>>21605015
Fucking triple negative, fuck this language.

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>>21607010
why would you recommend VNs for beginners to read? its often aimed at adults and use harder kanji and more stylistic phrasing. manga on the other hand often has simple but natural conversations and has much more elementary options, aka yotsuba. everyone recommends yotusba as a beginner manga.

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>>21607044
kys

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>>21607044
that shit used to trip me up a lot
now I just imagine わけないじゃない as its own set phrase and its a lot easier to understand. [theres no way that] + [this isnt delicious]

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what's the biggest file size u can post on /jp/?

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>>21607044
what, you aint someone who cant understand nothin?

(PS: that triple negative probably sounded natural to you)

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>>21605634



that phrase is came fr famous traditional children's song
"Hotaru Koi 蛍[ほたる/ホタル]こい(来い) = fireflies, pls come (here, to me/us/our side)".
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=et_by4RIQ4c

it was written and composed by a school teacher abt 100 yrs ago and we sing even now
there is no document, but probably like "butterfly likes nectar",
the old era children believed that fireflies would also like "sweet water", i guess

meaning 甘い水 is "better/best/good place/condition", (butterflies like good river = water)
so often used as "誘惑-する/-される", but it is rarely used now.

real so many fireflies flying is very beautiful, yet...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QtEuxRgdJZs

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>>21607060
Nah, I understood it. It's just ridiculous that triple negatives exists at all when even double negatives are redundant.

>>21607065
No, that doesn't sound natural at all.

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>>21607063
69kb or 420x420, whichever comes first

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>>21607069
well aint you a good for nothin cant do not jack shit notta thing notta how

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>>21607071
shit i wanted to make a manga and post it to prove you can draw in japanese, it was such a good plot too, well whatever i guess

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>>21607072
Great, now I don't even know English.

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>>21607074
i guess you gotta kill yourself.
腹を切る覚悟ができましたか

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>>21607078
nah, why would i do that? i still have stuff to read yo

[moenigger No.]

you're right fag she should have just said おいしい it would have had the same effect

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>>21605212
Do you know if there is any way to make the created definitions look less hard to read?
All that stuff on the side and the additional definitions makes it hard to memorize easily.
Otherwise this works really well, Yomichan and ankiconnect

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>>21607083
yeah the fufu is redundant as well. it should read

笑
確実に美味しい

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>>21607091
rather than memorize definitions, memorize the 'feeling' of all of those words and associate it with the japanese word. that is the true way to learn. simple word substitution based learning is a crutch that will prevent you from really 'getting it'

[moenigger No.]

japanese is contextual just remove all the words

[moenigger No.]

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>>21607104
This is the Japanese I read everyday to get better.

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>>21607104
the best thing is that because japanese is superior language you can actually understand this through context

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>>21607010
EZer Nippongo Gaido
Step 1: Learn Kana
Step 2: Consume whatever comprehensive and compelling content in Japanese you want (as monolingually as possible*) with the aid of dictionaries, internet search engines, or even actual people (native Japanese preferred). Progress depends on the quantity and quality of consistent practice.
Step 2.1: Repeat Step 2 forever; if you feel something isn’t compelling or doesn’t directly aid your comprehension in listening/reading, (or even speaking/writing if you’re into that) as much as you like, then you don’t have to do it.

NOTE: Using aids in a different language is permitted at the start, but over time (though as soon as possible) you must wean off of them and start using learning aids in Japanese.

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Make sure you maintain a nutritional balance of manga you eat everyday and don't just consume the same type all the time.

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manga has no nutritional value

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No wonder my Japanese isn't improving then wtf

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you mean you starved your japanese dead?

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I think I'm starting to prefer short hair girls

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frank

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frank

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スゥエーデンとかフィンランドとかロシアだっけ

サウナはいりにいきたい

[Anonymous No.]

フランク

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Are these moonrunes?

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>>21607488
top yes, bottom no

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>>21607500
What is the 2nd one in the top?

[Anonymous No.]

>resting heart rate is 49 when I wake up
am I gonna die? wtf

[Anonymous No.]

so what's the difference between term cards and kanji cards? why don't kanji cards have the audio option? i just want to make cards with kanji, audio, meaning and reading and dunno which to choose

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>>21607502
>>21607488
I duno what the center one is either. Stylized ロ? Does Muromu have any meaning in whatever that is? Or Mu[insert syllable here]mu?

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>>21607521
>>21607502
maybe just very stupidly written ウ

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>>21607520
i use 1 for hiragana words and the other for kanji words no idea if thats right or not lol

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anime cards

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>>21607525
>>21607521
there is "paizuri paradise" written, no kana.
I also searched for "ム＊ム" in jisho but it gave nothing.

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>>21607538
maybe it's a name? むうむ 【夢緝】, try searching in hiragana instead of katakana since jisho results differ and nips often write things in katakana that are actually kanji

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>>21605797
>that sounds as silly as "I will never get bored of reading anything English" does
some people are like that though

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Uhhh, what the FUCK Alice?!?!?

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i read some of a ln and understood nothing at all, if i keep doing this will i learn japanese?

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>>21607641
Should start with something similar until your grammar's better. You should only be struggling with vocabulary when you start going hard on reading.

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>>21607641
mitsuboshi colors with japanese subtitles

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i asked if i will learn japanese this way, not for alternatives

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>>21607724
I didn't give you an alternative you dumb faggot, I told you what you were doing wrong. Get better at grammar with easier shit (including an easier LN) and then start reading LNs.

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>>21607747
but ultimately you didn't answer my question, i don't know if i want to take advice on japanese from someone who can't even read properly in english

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>>21607752
yeah he did stop being dumb
he's right, if you understand nothing it's worthless
go to something easier and preferably with audio
he recommended a good option for that

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>>21607770
no, i asked a yes/no question and i wanted a yes/no answer, i can make conclusion from there myself

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>>21607776
you can't even conclude whether his answer was a yes or no which means you're too fucking stupid to tie your own shoe laces let alone learn japanese you inbred baboon-fucking dipshit

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>>21607798
context does not exist in english language, so there's no way to "conclude" anything from the holler you spew from your assmug

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>>21607803
just give up

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>>21607807
suck my dick

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>>21607752
>>21607776
If you couldn't understand my answer from the context, then no you won't be able to learn Japanese this way or any way at all. Being able to tell things from context is a very important part of reading Japanese because the language can get very vague at times. If you ask "can I learn Japanese this way" and I start talking about how you need to fix your grammar first, then the answer is obviously not until you do that first you brainlet. Knowing a bunch of words is meaningless if you don't know what the fuck those words do in the sentence.

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>>21607812
>>21607803

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>>21607812
he's trolling or too low iq to comprehend anything

[Anonymous No.]

Hey guys its me, no discipline man, going to start attempt 10 of learning. wish me luck

[Anonymous No.]

>>21607835
don't think theres enough luck in the world if youre the guy i think u are lol

[Anonymous No.]

>>21607840
im not I mostly lurk

[Anonymous No.]

>>21607835
start timeboxing
5 min intervals till you gain momentum

[Anonymous No.]

>>21607863
I'll look into timeboxing, I have this problem in almost every aspect of my life so finding a solution would be great, thanks

[Anonymous No.]

>>21607835
anon I believe that you can do anything, but you have to believe yourself as well, or you won't get anywhere! good luck

[Anonymous No.]

>>21607835
You have a better shot than >>21607641 at least.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21607887
imagine being this butthurt over your dumb advice being disregarded

[Anonymous No.]

快く
心にさわやかに感じられる。気持ちよい。「―・いリズム」「―・い雰囲気」

[Anonymous No.]

>>21607884
Thanks, good luck on whatever you are working on too!

[Anonymous No.]

>>21607878
no prob man
the issue is the hurdle of resistance. your mind imagines its gonna be really hard and difficult and time consuming so it resists the activity
a tiny time box like 'just 5 minutes right now then i can do whatever" reduces that resistance substantially
its easy to do almost anything if it's just 5 minutes

[Anonymous No.]

and if u successfully do whatever u planned for that 5 minutes, the feeling of accomplishment will likely drive you to do more and more of these tiny timeboxes until you feel confident enough to make them bigger
what exactly are you planning to spend the time on btw? jw

[Anonymous No.]

>>21607905
Thanks 辞書あにき

[Anonymous No.]

>>21607911
have you been checked for ADD/ADHD?

[Anonymous No.]

if you have to timebox reading and watching japanese youre probably not gonna make it since you dont have the motivation to learn the language (which is ok)

[Anonymous No.]

i just wanna say a big thank you for everyone out there who's contributed to the huge fucking swath of japanese resources we have available to us in this day and age
shit loads of anime, a very generous amount with japanese subs, LN's, VN's, manga, study books and anki decks, tutorials and grammar guides, online dictionaries including popup addons like yomichan, forums to ask questions
the list is fucking endless like damn
i'm not taking it for granted anymore, this shit's great
and i wanna start donating to some of these people too
心の底から感謝します

[Anonymous No.]

>>21607927
When I was a child yeah and didnt have anything. There is plenty of things I can focus on, I can read the whole day without stopping, program the whole day if I wanted etc. It's just learning things like this and school/writing reports I get bored and where normal people just keep going because of discipline I just give up and start doing something else thats a waste of time.
>>21607913
How do I scale the time up?
>>21607958
I dont have the motivation for anything. I've been working out for 10 years, I stopped finding it fun 3/4 years ago and just keep doing it because of discipline. It's actually the only thing I have discipline for. I'm just hoping I find the discipline for Japanese like I did for working out..

[Anonymous No.]

ok where's the secret sauce to japanese? i know you guys have

[Anonymous No.]

>>21607641
I just finish my read session. I had to look up a lot of words but I understood about 95% percent. I'm starting to feeling it :)

[Anonymous No.]

>>21607974
醤油
>>21607982
>having reading sessions
>not just reading every single moment u can
yikes

[Anonymous No.]

>>21607973
yeah im the same as you. my take on it is that the things that make you not want to study in those moments of weakness like not understanding a sentence, having to look up words all the time, feeling completely lost etc will diminish over time and you'll be able to find more enjoyment as that happens. thats what happened for me at least. good luck.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21607958
>since you dont have the motivation to learn the langua
people lack motivation for all kinds of reasons many times just distraction or anxiety
its not that the desire isn't there, it's that it's constantly being distracted from by other existing habits, or even subconscious fear that they can't do it
it's not uncommon for people to break through walls of resistance they had towards something they actually did want to do, and then start going hard with enjoyment once they got over whatever the inner hurdle was
so stop with this "if you don't feel totally gung-ho every day all the time from the very beginning you can't do it" nonsense
that shows a shallow understanding of human emotions/how the mind works

[Anonymous No.]

>>21607991
don't forget about meditation dude

[Anonymous No.]

>>21607973
>How do I scale the time up?
wait till you start to get momentum
once that feeling "wow i'm really doing this" starts coming
then increase by a few minutes
if you increase too much too soon you might get that feeling of overwhelm and stop again
so you really have to pay attention to your 感情 and not be too 強引 on yourself

[Anonymous No.]

>>21607982
>I just finish my read session. I had to look up a lot of words but I understood about 95% percent. I'm starting to feeling it :)
素晴らしい

[Anonymous No.]

>>21607991
yeah i put the word probably in there which means not 100%. once you get past the easy part of japanese and you have to learn 40k words or whatever i dont think discipline is going to last very long cuz youre just gonna be like why the fuck am i doing this again i dont even have fun doing it and i waste so much time on it. it's a huge time investment more than going to the gym a couple times a week or getting a college degree and if you cant do it for more than 5 minutes at a time? yeah i really do doubt your motivation for learning the language like why do you want to know it in the first place

[Anonymous No.]

>>21607988
>looking down on people who are trying and making progress just because their motivation isn't as high as yours yet, instead of just encouraging them to keep going
yikes

[Anonymous No.]

>>21608010
>getting a college degree
nigga what? liberal arts fag detected lol

[Anonymous No.]

>>21608012
he obviously was mocking the person who he replied to, why would i be nice to an asshole like that?

[Anonymous No.]

>>21608010
>once you get past the easy part of japanese and you have to learn 40k words or whatever i dont think discipline is going to last very long
you won't need the discipline by that point though
the discipline is to get you started, and the momentum of the fruits of your labors (including being able to enjoy stuff in the language now) is what keeps you going

[Anonymous No.]

>>21608024
yeah maybe that would be cool. i guess i dont understand cuz i was always hyped to learn japanese even (especially) in the beginning

[Anonymous No.]

>>21608031
Not understanding perspectives other than your own is a sign of low iq, maybe get that checked out.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21608031
cool, good for you
other people have other stuff going on emotionally than you have
learn empathy
感情移入スキル低そう

[Anonymous No.]

>>21608036
maybe. i guess get back to me after you master japanese with your 5 second timeboxes and ill be more understanding lol

[Anonymous No.]

>>21608048
Thats not what he is saying at all you absolute brainlet

[Anonymous No.]

got curious what my boys are talkin about and i see iq posting

[Anonymous No.]

>>21608048 made me laugh so >>21608054 loses, get lost peasant

[Anonymous No.]

A girl sends you this emoji, what do you respond?

[Anonymous No.]

>>21608080
>や５し～
what did she mean by this?

[Anonymous No.]

>>21608080
im more interested in what i sent before to instigate that

[Anonymous No.]

>>21608086
おちんちんの写真。

[Anonymous No.]

>>21608080
Say "wrong number" then block her. Fuck thots.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21608100
>Fuck thots.
doubt you're doing much fuckin, of thots or otherwise

[Anonymous No.]

>>21608080
Promptly apologise for bring shame upon my family name and proceed to commit seppuku.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21608107
Shows what you know, faggot. I fuck my best gal Te-chan everynight :]

[Anonymous No.]

>>21607878
Sounds like you need stimulants bud

If anyone has the pic related guide, help our poor ADHD anon out and post it

[Anonymous No.]

>>21608080
だねー

[Anonymous No.]

>>21608120
He doesn't have ADHD, he's just got a bad case of being a piece of human garbage.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21608132
now that's a projectin'

[Anonymous No.]

>>21608138
You better take that back before I say the n-word.

[Anonymous No.]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L5dhhdhO4Yw#t=29

[Anonymous No.]

>>21608132
>he's just got a bad case of being a piece of human garbage
and you aren't one for posting that...?

[Anonymous No.]

>>21608161
Indeed I am a piece of human, but I'm not garbage.

[Anonymous No.]

daily reminder of how important it is to 認知 your 感情 past a shallow surface level
stop being ashamed of not being a ロボット

[Anonymous No.]

>>21608170
if your first impulse is to put people down who are already down, you are indeed garbage.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21608179
go back

[Anonymous No.]

>>21608184
Putting down? I was just correcting him. He said in his own post that he didn't have ADHD. The next sensible assumption is to conclude that he's just a lazy piece of human garbage. Unless you have a better hypothesis or something. Which you don't, because I'm smarter than you.

[Anonymous No.]

so this is what happens when i dont post

[Anonymous No.]

>>21608202
>The next sensible assumption is to conclude that he's just a lazy piece of human garbage
only if you're one yourself

[Anonymous No.]

>>21608210
I've already explained that I'm not. Stop repeating yourself, please.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21608215
saying you aren't doesn't mean you aren't. by the way very ebin trolling m8 ure doing good work

[Anonymous No.]

>>21607104
this language is so fucking easy

[Anonymous No.]

>>21608217
You post in all lowercase, I hope you don't seriously think you're some kind of voice of reason.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21608223
dont need to be the voice or reason to point out you're worthless, it's obvious to everyone but yourself my dude

[Anonymous No.]

u post in djt I hope you don't seriously think you're some kind of voice of reason.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21608228
No, you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21608202
>The next sensible assumption is to conclude that he's just a lazy piece of human garbage
not having motivation doesn't necessarily mean someone is garbage. being a dick to people who are struggling and asking for help certainly means you are though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21608243
Yeah, it does. That's the definition of being a garbage human. If you can't get anything done then you're doomed to be among the lowest scum of society. "Being a dick to people" (as you put it), on the other hand, doesn't in any way have such conotation.

[Anonymous No.]

I used to only read one or two time per week but no I've been reading everyday for two weeks and it feels great, I can already see that I'm better than before desu

[Anonymous No.]

What is the best mouse over dictionary for LN/manga scans?

[Anonymous No.]

ただいまおにいちゃん

おふろはいってきた

[Anonymous No.]

What's the best エロチックゲーム you've all played since starting to learn Japanese?

[Anonymous No.]

cum quest 69

[Anonymous No.]

>>21607958
>>21607991
Motivation is a meme. It doesn't exist.

You are either interested and having fun, or you aren't. That's all that matters.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21608260
you need serious help from a counselor
i can't imagine you have any decent friends or healthy relationships

[Anonymous No.]

>>21608313

[Anonymous No.]

reddit invasion? what's with all the emotional posts

[Anonymous No.]

>>21608283
Capture2Text OCR works well enough as long as the scans are clear. Main problem I run into is it getting big and little つ confused really often, but that's not a huge problem.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21608315
Nice projection

[Anonymous No.]

>>21608318
yes. they're even posting from reddit. >>21608179

[Anonymous No.]

>>21606646
it's more about slow life history traits like delaying gratification than intelligence, although obviously intelligence will always help.

[Anonymous No.]

imagine being tribalistic over websites lol
reevaluate your lives

[Anonymous No.]

>>21608293
I play エロゲ often but CTRL through all the H-scenes, so maybe I'm not exactly the person you're wanting an answer from.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21608293
Any Rance game, no other answers need apply

[Anonymous No.]

>>21608341
go back

[Anonymous No.]

>>21607091
when you press the green button a book icon appears. click on it to take you to the card you just generated where you can quickly edit it.

to remove the italicized "jmdict" tags and stuff like that, use "{glossary-brief}" instead of "{glossary}".

to remove the bullet points, someone made this handlebars template:
>>/jp/thread/21355931#p21357943
click "Show Advanced Options" near the top of the yomichan menu, scroll down, and replace the text in the handlebars field with the pastebin he made.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21608353
............

anyways

[Anonymous No.]

>>21608344
This. The best MC with the best girls. You don't need anything else

[Anonymous No.]

>>21608313
>You are either interested and having fun
which means... you're motivated
by that interest and by that fun

[Anonymous No.]

>>21607091
>Do you know if there is any way to make the created definitions look less hard to read?
Yes: use Nazeka instead.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21608363
wow nice thanks.
that bullet point stuff was the reason why i didn't use yomichan import cuz the editing was messed up in anki for me.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21608383
No. If you need "motivation" to get you to pursue your interest then you aren't actually interested in it. You should be pursuing your interest simply because it's something you enjoy doing.

Do you need motivation to play a video game or to have a wank?

[Anonymous No.]

do people not realize that motivation only means "a drive to do x"?
you can be motivated by things like fun and interest and you can also be motivated by things like fear or discomfort
completely depends on the「x」, the person, and what their brain's conditioning is set up like

[Anonymous No.]

mo·ti·va·tion
/ˌmōdəˈvāSH(ə)n/
発音を調べる
noun
the reason or reasons one has for acting or behaving in a particular way.
"escape can be a strong motivation for travel"
同義語: motive, motivating force, incentive, stimulus, stimulation, inspiration, impulse, inducement, incitement, spur, goad, provocation; もっと見る
the general desire or willingness of someone to do something.

so you have fun in japanese which motivates you to do more stuff in japanese.... makes sense to me

[Anonymous No.]

>>21608400
>Do you need motivation to play a video game
Sometimes, yeah
>to have a wank?
No because you can't motivate yourself into being aroused.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21608400
In fact, I do. If my attention span runs out, I find it hard to get past the start screen of a game, and unless I'm horny, I won't jack off. People with ADHD and depression do exist, anon, sorry it's so hard for your normie brain to comprehend not doing something you want to do.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21608400
this is an incredibly stupid suggestion though and i wish people here would stop saying it because i would literally never do anything with my life if i only did what was immediately fun in the moment.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21608400
>Do you need motivation to play a video game or to have a wank?
every action anyone consciously takes has a motivation, or else they wouldn't take it
playing a video game is motivated by desire or fun or aversion from boredom
jacking of is motivated by hornyness or desire or aversion from boredom
learn what motivation means dude

[Anonymous No.]

>>21608418
>muh depreshun

[Anonymous No.]

guess i was right when i called the "you need to enjoy every second of your learning otherwise quit" as the next meme

[Anonymous No.]

>>21608410
>so you have fun in japanese which motivates you to do more stuff in japanese.... makes sense to me
yay a sensible person
>>21608421
>this is an incredibly stupid suggestion though and i wish people here would stop saying it because i would literally never do anything with my life if i only did what was immediately fun in the moment.
yay another sensible person (unless you're the same guy then 2 yays for you)

[Anonymous No.]

>>21608179
the ability to accurately describe your emotions is so obviously confounded by IQ which predicts all sorts of positive life outcomes which we would associate with happiness. god i hate reddit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21608293
外道勇者一行

[Anonymous No.]

>>21608494
Die.

[Anonymous No.]

Parading motivation around is sweet on the surface, but the reality of the matter is that people are fickle creatures and generally relying on motivation will lead you to failure. I've personally tutored about 7 people in Japanese at this point and all but 1 of them have given up due to not studying when they aren't motivated to. Like, it's really as simple of that. Some of them gave up in the kana stage because they couldn't be assed to write them out or do flashcards or do anything at all - they weren't motivated to work, so they gave up and failed. The others got further but generally quit at the vocabulary/grammar stage because reading was hard enough that it was less fun for them than it was motivating, and they didn't have the spine to keep working anyway. Ironically the only one of them who hasn't given up is the guy who gelled well with Anki and has been doing reps for a year straight now.

In short, motivation is nice. If people could rely on motivation and learn Japanese consistently that'd be amazing. But that's not really the case for most people (and those who think it is probably are underestimating their work ethic.) Preaching motivation as the be all end all, and scorning those who don't rely on it like >>21607958 is just a destructive attitude.

Also I realize that it might sound like "Wow you tutored so many people and they failed, you must be a bad teacher" but in reality I'm referring to friends who I DM'd advice/resources to and answered the questions of when asked, so it's more like a spiritual guide than a serious tutor. Not too much influence over whether they get bored and quit or not.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21608515
This is a reddit repost.

[Anonymous No.]

anyone else here a sunk-cost fallacy learner? i cant be the only one surely. its literally the only reason i dont quit lol

[Anonymous No.]

i dont get how some1 "starts" or "quits" in the 1st place lol

[Anonymous No.]

>>21608515
What probably happened is that you coerced your friends into learning the nippongs and they complied solely out of pity for your pathetic existence (and for the lulz), but then realised your psycho guyjean ass was actually serious about it and immediately bailed out.

[Anonymous No.]

You don't need motivation, you need discipline.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21608293
KAMIGE OF PLOT
勇者様は俺の嫁っ
マオウオツ
Pronant Symphony
Sequel series https://whyisbeingazodisobad.wordpress.com/2019/01/16/2018-a-retrospective-part-1-sequels/
King Exit
Black Souls 1/2
うさみみボウケンタン
外道勇者一行 / other games by this dev (Bad End Collector comes to mind)

KAMIGE OF GAMEPLAY (some of the above games also fit into here)
DepraviA Egrigori (extreme gore fetish but actually solid gameplay)
THE HEART OF DARKNESS (dark souls style exploration game with incredible pixel art)
Nightmare Girls
Night of Revenge (literal bloodborne clone in 2d)

KAMIGE OF PORN (ill just throw out things that suit my tastes)
ヴァンパイア・ノーツ
王国の守護天使
紅獄の剣士ティーナ
討魔の乙女
なんでも調査少女ＲＰＧ
ニプルヘイムの狩人
ナコの魔法と純欲の怪人 (this kind of goes with Plot since it has an elaborate and long story, and with Gameplay since it's a Tales of Symphonia clone, but the large quantity of porn is it's most distinctive quality)

NOT QUITE KAMIGE BUT SO WHERE NEAR
働くアイリがキリ斬りス - really great writing at the start and in some quests, but focuses too much on the H-scene sides of things with uncomfortably realistic depictions of rape
爆災雷鋼ライオウガー - this does some hilarious things with your standard hot wife getting NTR'd but holy fuck it looks ugly and the gameplay sucks ass
寝取られ騎士 - hilarious NTR plot with some epic meme twists but extremely buggy when I played it
MARRIAGE OR PERVERT - I feel like noting this game because it has art by a very well known mangaka and was fun, but it's not something i would really go out of my way to recommend
ナイツ・オブ・メサイア - Actually pretty solid writing and an AMAZING ost, but bogged down by what comes close to the worst gameplay I've ever seen in an HRPG, and the story doesn't really deliver like it could have (also it's extremely NTR)

VISUAL NOVEL CONTAINMENT ZONE
三射面談
裏教師
牝教師3
変態エルフ姉妹と真面目オーク
監獄戦艦２、３
もっと！孕ませ！炎のおっぱい異世界エロ魔法学園！
対魔忍アサギZERO
カーラ The Blood Lord
魔王のくせに生イキだっ！

[Anonymous No.]

>>21608595
No, in this day and age the west is overflowing with people who have an interest in learning Japanese thanks to anime and such. A lot of my friends and associates are the same and, since they know I am a nihongo expert, ask me to teach them (or to help them learn anyway). I oblige and they give up.

I've only attempted to coerce one friend into learning Japanese and that's just because they're a NEET who complains about the stuff they like never getting translated. Learning Japanese would make their life appreciably better and like any bro I want the best for them. But that's just one person and I'm not actually pushy about it. (Nor have they started...)
>>21608576
Unfortunately, explaining how time works is a bit beyond my scope here.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21608483
so how is that information relevant to your life?
are you happy because of your IQ?

[Anonymous No.]

how long have u been learning and how much of this can u understand

https://www.4chan.org/japanese

[Anonymous No.]

>>21608642
wtf are you talking about

[Anonymous No.]

>>21608644
long enough and enough to say LOL

[Anonymous No.]

>>21608553
>anyone else here a sunk-cost fallacy learner
once you're aware of the fallacy at work in you (which you've just shown that you are by posting this) you become able to consciously make the choice consciously about whether you actually want to continue spending your time on japanese or not

[Anonymous No.]

>>21608648
what's the point of rambling about IQ if it's not relevant to your actual life?

[Anonymous No.]

anyone else switch between lower case proper grammar/lower case shit grammar (u, ur etc) and uppercase posting?

[Anonymous No.]

no i just occasionally use the stern period lmfao.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21608660
wtf is the point in posting about anything you here retard? fuck off

[Anonymous No.]

>>21608738
so what i've gathered so far
you're easily irritable and reactive and clearly not happy, but are ranting about how important IQ is for happiness even though it isn't having that effect in your life
???

[Anonymous No.]

>>21608840
when did i say i have a high IQ? moreover i was referring to averages, so any given individual could still be unhappy for a variety of reasons. that's why your questioning is completely nonsensical to me unless it's to troll in which case you got me.

[Anonymous No.]

You guys have watched dolly's new video, right?

[Anonymous No.]

>>21608856
no it seemed like another video rehashing the same thing as the last 4-5

[Anonymous No.]

too busy reading VN with perfect 2d girls to waste my time watching a boring 3d girl video sorry

[Anonymous No.]

>>21608856
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8NcOz6C7qxo#t=61

[Anonymous No.]

what's wrong with dolly and her "anime soundtrack"
this sounds dumb as fuck, might as well listen to an audiobook

[Anonymous No.]

>>21608856
Dolly is an autist like Matt. Explain why I should listen to an uncredentialed amateur ramble about linguistics/education when they've learned exactly 1 language and I'll consider it.

[Anonymous No.]

i wanna meet the doll dude and just be like what the fCUk

[Anonymous No.]

>>21608932
explain why someone should give a fuck about credentials in a pseud field like linguistics first lmao

[Anonymous No.]

>>21608932
because he's right

[Anonymous No.]

>>21608890
lmao this song is so disturbing to me

[Anonymous No.]

never forgot that you can't learn japanese if you don't know how to yodel first

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yO7MWuJ7zLA

[Anonymous No.]

>>21608942
Because people posit shit like language affecting how people see the world and we don't take them seriously either

>>21608943
Elaborate

[Anonymous No.]

the dollman says some shit that makes sense and then goes off the rails talking about cutting audio out of anime and listening to it on ur ipod while doing ur flashcards while making sure to read their book alice in kanjiland

i mean i think all the ppl that matter itt have agreed the only part of dollys content that matters is their train vids everything else is use at ur own risk

[Anonymous No.]

>>21608962
his grammar videos are a pretty good grammar resource (his other videos are shit though)

[Anonymous No.]

btw if u wanna understand how fuckin weird the doll dude is just look at that page and note who uses "alice" and "arisu" and ull really start to see the sickness that lies within

[Anonymous No.]

>>21608932
not saying you should or shouldn't but if he is actually mexican then he speaks at least 3 languages and you have no way of knowing if that's all he knows

[Anonymous No.]

>>21605015
>>21605966
>>21605993
>>21606371
>>21607055
>>21607083
>>21607100
>>21607104

[Anonymous No.]

>>21608978
Perhaps "Cure Dolly" is a request, and not a name

[Anonymous No.]

>>21608970
lmfao
i can't stop laughing what the

[Anonymous No.]

>>21608994

[Anonymous No.]

>>21608994
a cry for help :(

[Anonymous No.]

>>21608999
Repeating numbers confirmed theory

[Anonymous No.]

imagining the irl doll man wearin a stained wifebeater and dingy boxer shorts layin vegged out in the corner with like 5 syringes sticking out of his arm in his room filled with dolls lmao :'(

[Anonymous No.]

stfu losers and go watch jav

[Anonymous No.]

and then when the drugs start to wear off and he comes down he hobbles to his feet singing under his breath https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8NcOz6C7qxo#t=74 as he shuffles out to go buy his next fix with the measly amount of patreon money he gets from his nihongo channel

[Anonymous No.]

>>21608904
It's actually quite effective. I started doing it a few months ago when she first mentioned it.

[Anonymous No.]

Do ankidrones only do their reps at home, or do they do them elsewhere too?

[Anonymous No.]

never wouldve thought all these trees would be commonly used kanji

[Anonymous No.]

>>21609362
When is someone an Anki drone? Just using Anki for any amount of time at all?

I do Anki mostly not at home but while commuting. But I also use Anki less than 30 minutes a day.

[Anonymous No.]

when is someone a nicotine addict? just smoking a cigarette at all?
i mostly smoke cigarettes outside. but i also only smoke one a day!

[Anonymous No.]

i mean when u start "having" to smoke a cigarette thats when ur addicted by definition at least

[Anonymous No.]

so what exactly is the difference between rtk and wanikani other than one takes two years to do what the other does in a month

[Anonymous No.]

>>21609461
wanikani also teaches readings i think

[Anonymous No.]

馬鹿な...

[Anonymous No.]

>>21609461
Wanikani teaches you vocabulary and how to read, RTK teaches you a party trick

[Anonymous No.]

>>21609503
couldnt u just learn hoow to read by reading tho

[Anonymous No.]

do you think matt enjoyed his meditation retreat

[Anonymous No.]

>>21609461
Use KD to get the benefits of both for free.

[Quizmaster No.]

only thing you need is anime cards

[Anonymous No.]

>>21609514
Yeah so why not just skip RTK? At least WaniKani is technically offering "something" but RTK manages to not even do that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21609503
> RTK teaches you a party trick
lel

[Anonymous No.]

so this "anime and drama" frequency list is probably derived solely from one piece?

[Anonymous No.]

>>21609595
no ur actually just exposing how noob u r lol

[Anonymous No.]

>>21609625
well yea i'm very noob else i wouldn't be looking up this sorta stuff. but that frequency list has to be busted somehow.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21609595
No, it does appear elsewhere, just not as often.

[Anonymous No.]

>執事 means butler
>羊 means sheep
>印刷 means printing
>暗殺 means assassination
やっぱり日本語は変だよね。

[Anonymous No.]

reminder that yoga the big supporter of doing millions of anki cards couldn't output the word 食べ物 when he wanted to say food in japanese because he rotted his brain droning flashcards

[Anonymous No.]

>>21609632
i mean frequency lists mean jack anyway so i wouldnt worry about it too much

i bet ur gonna start seeing pirates everywhere now that uve been thinking about it

[Anonymous No.]

Sup /djt/ RTK-anki drone here, i have a request for translation.

How would you translate "technology demonstrator" in the sense of euphemisms the arms/defense industry uses.
(you know: the way latest gen arms tech tends to turn up in proxy conflicts between nations that have no way of developing or buying that kind of stuff)

Do nips even do the kinds of euphemisms NATO language is coded in?
like :
defense - war
exfiltrate - take shit at gunpoint
contractor - mercenary

wiki only gives me 技術デモンストレーション
which is not kanji enough for a game about cyborg ninjas

[Anonymous No.]

this is not the place for translation request lol

[Anonymous No.]

why wouldnt u just at least start with 技術者 lol

also ur other questions about nato terminology being applicable in japanese is a good 1 ull find a lot of stuff like this tho all of those can be equated in japanese fine anything that might have a more foreign concept they can always do fun things w. furigana etc : )

[Anonymous No.]

>>21605797
i like reading in english and japanese. doubt i will ever get sick of either.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21609766
oh i read the rest of ur post i meant a bigger entity

how is this does this amount of kanji make u happy 軍用技術の実証実験者

[not James Heisig No.]

>>21609461
wakinaki is a scam for noobs rtk is for professional kanji learners

[Anonymous No.]

>>21608890
Pure psychosis.

[Anonymous No.]

haven't read today since i told myself i can't read unless i listen but i don't wanna listen. so i haven't done anything in japanese today.

[Anonymous No.]

im watching anime right fUCking now

over 25 years in the game and i still watch anime ftmfw

[moenigger No.]

read over 200 pages of manga watched 12 episodes of anime and did passive listening all day yesterday and in my sleep.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21610034
What do use as passive listening material?

[moenigger No.]

>>21610050
anime audio

[Anonymous No.]

>>21610050
jav

[Anonymous No.]

>>21610050
same as you used for active listening

[Anonymous No.]

if acquisition just means hearing a phrase so often you automatically know what it means then there's nothing special about that and it's a gay term.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21610063
What do you use as active listening material?

[Anonymous No.]

>>21610079
mostly anime, sometimes podcasts

[Anonymous No.]

God, why did my parents teach me pig-disgusting english. I could have learnt Japanese.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21610099
being an ESL would suck so much ass. i'm glad my native language is english.

[Anonymous No.]

On Kitsunekko, the subtitle files for Highschool dxd is in chinese, dafuq?

[Anonymous No.]

>>21610076
luckily for us ur not in charge of the definition

[Anonymous No.]

>>21610099
if you were japane yuo be talmin abouot wanting to be american. be happy to be able to appreciate the aquisition of nipspeak. am eating croissant so excuse typin

[Anonymous No.]

>>21610116
what do you mean

[Anonymous No.]

>>21608970
This reads like something Khatzumoto would write, so it's either an odd cynical act to get patreon bucks from people or the guy is straight up fucked in the head.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21610140
>>21610015
seems like u already know whats good my dude

[Anonymous No.]

why is my add card thing on yomichan greyed out even though i set everything up?

[Anonymous No.]

no more cards

[Anonymous No.]

>>21610163
its a sign from the great papersama

[Anonymous No.]

i just want to mine... please help me...

[Anonymous No.]

>>21608428
Selfish autistic manchild.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21610183
if you read eryday it is useless. if you need reqs you know where to find ja boi

[Anonymous No.]

>>21610192
>empathy
fuck yourself

[Anonymous No.]

>>21608428
everyone and their mother has depression nowadays. muh depression is normie tier.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21610215
i meant >>21608418

[Anonymous No.]

please help me configure yomichan right, cards in anki make me feel like i actually am making progress

[Anonymous No.]

>>21610114
yea i checked a couple months ago and again today. it's GAY.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21610253
good thing it makes you feel that way despite being useless.

[Anonymous No.]

please help me fund my anki addiction by helping me set up yomichan, i can suck your dick or something

[Anonymous No.]

>>21610163
might have changed your deck(s) structure

[Anonymous No.]

>>21610256
I even tried looking up for the subtitles with a google search, both in English and Japanese and came up empty. 90s anime I can understand not finding subs, but a 2010s anime? lolwut

[Anonymous No.]

>>21610277
>>21610256
>>21610114
learn japanese retards

[Anonymous No.]

>>21610287
The subtitles help with learning, retard.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21610291
evidence kudasai

[Anonymous No.]

please stop fighting its not very tanoshii when u do that

[Anonymous No.]

>>21610351
k fren, lets get back to talking about dicks.

Do you think japanese people will be weirded out by my circumcision?

[Anonymous No.]

>>21610351
Tanoshii things wa tanoshii desu

[Anonymous No.]

>>21610363
they might be but if your dick is ookii enough i dont think they will mind much
>>21610365
great post

[Anonymous No.]

日本語はむずかしい

[Anonymous No.]

>>21610363
I'm glad I don't have to worry about this kind of stuff since my dick is uncut

[Anonymous No.]

>>21610385
君の顔を見ているのはちょーーーー難しぇーなー

[Anonymous No.]

>>21610388
but at least im white

[Anonymous No.]

>>21610403
yes but there will always be people like me who are both white and uncut. If only I studied japanese or read instead of shitposting here

[Anonymous No.]

>>21610403
>cut = white

[Anonymous No.]

help my assssshole is bleeding badly fuck help what do i do fuck fuck fuck fucks

[Anonymous No.]

>>21610391
いじめないでください

[Anonymous No.]

>>21610420
almost every white guy older than 18 is cut in america. euros are not white.

[Anonymous No.]

kill that man

[Anonymous No.]

im bleeding out of my asshole goodbye jp

[Anonymous No.]

>>21610466
Goodbye Anon! Hope you know Japanese by now, so you can at least communicate with the Japanese cuties in heaven.
And no you can't learn Japanese in the after life

[Anonymous No.]

>>21610485
i die as i lived, ignorant of the japanese language and worthless to the very end

[Anonymous No.]

>>21610466
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oiXaT_1I-vw

[Anonymous No.]

僕は決して生きた心地がしなかった

[Anonymous No.]

>>21610426
put some paper on it

[Anonymous No.]

>>21610426
I tried a butt plug, and it felt pretty good so I would use it like once a month when I got too drunk or something. Then one night it slid all the way inside (make sure you get one with a flared base, mine wasn't very flared). I scrambled to reach in and I panicked which caused my muscles to contract and the toy went even deeper in and I freaked out even worse. I started clawing my way in to retrieve it because I obviously didn't want to make a trip to the ER for this. I'll spare you the 45 minute strugle that ensued in my anus. In the end I got it out, and I was covered in blood. Blood leaked out of my dick for a few days too so I guess I damaged my prostate in the debacle. I never seen so much blood.

[Anonymous No.]

このポータルに入ったら
どこに移動されたい？

[Anonymous No.]

>>21610566
lmfao

[Anonymous No.]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VJ-WBkcS018#t=1158

[Anonymous No.]

delete ur flashcards before its too late

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P8xTWoTEK94

[Anonymous No.]

>>21610566
Sick story dude

[Anonymous No.]

>>21610566
this was both funny and awful at the same time

[Anonymous No.]

>>21609934
＞oh i read the rest of ur post i meant a bigger entity
huh?

>実証実験
Seems cool. Thank you dear anon.

Not that i would mind giving some of the fun of engrish back ... like i could avoid it if i wanted too.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21610584
this is why reading is important. weird sentences need to be comprehended on the fly. its a long sentence with two things being acted on by the same verb. granted its bad writing but still its like genki 1 material when you think about it. he stops to think about things before even finishing the sentence and it gets him hung up oh shit nvm i just finished watching the bit "im not sure what they meant"

[Anonymous No.]

>>21610609
that i was supposed to be a u its really easy to typo that

[Anonymous No.]

The story is great and the drawings are really cute ! I'm really enjoying the art

[Anonymous No.]

>>21610613
lmoa

[Anonymous No.]

>>21610623
It's not reading, but at least you're not tearing your asshole up over it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21610628
It's great for relaxing between to real-reading session too !

[Anonymous No.]

nobody here even reads lol

[Anonymous No.]

>>21610593
I hate that they shortened the audio on the original bad end, and you can't find any videos on youtube showing it (but the original audio file still exists in the game files).
He used to say
>no regrets mr. freeman, but there are a few survivors of you're... personal holocaust, who would like the opportunity to meet the man responsible for the total annihilation of their race
I bet they clipped it just because of the word "holocaust". Fucking gay.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21610645
Are you sure it's not you who's misremembering something?

[Anonymous No.]

>>21610642
looks like some india shit where's the wafuu at

[Anonymous No.]

>>21610653
nah hes on his shit

https://developer.valvesoftware.com/wiki/G-Man

[Anonymous No.]

I want someone to touch my penis, preferably a cute girl. Anyone here who can help with this?

[Anonymous No.]

I'm a girl btw

[Anonymous No.]

>>21610668
Are you cute?

[Anonymous No.]

>>21610653
>>21610662
Found a copy here http://overwikifiles.com/files/GMan/Gman_noregret.ogg

[Anonymous No.]

>>21610668
are you 2D?

[Anonymous No.]

>>21610668
are you a girl with a benis ?

[Anonymous No.]

>>21610671
>>21610676
>>21610677
ニューハーフ chasers out

[Anonymous No.]

>>21610664
>>21610668
>>21610671
>>21610677
i watched a gross tranny porno where the dude (girl) just had makeup over his facial hair stubble and it didnt hide sHIt and then he sucked this dudes dick and i was barfing so hard

>>21610674
nice

[Anonymous No.]

とらえる - to understand/to strongly grip something
ok but sometimes it's used like to aim at something wtf

[Anonymous No.]

>>21610674
honestly im sure holocaust had a lot to do with it but like the part of that clip that didnt make it sounds really bad honestly

[Anonymous No.]

>>21610689
wtf

[Anonymous No.]

What is the most beta name and why is it 信二

[Anonymous No.]

>>21610718
have u tried looking at ur birth certificate

[Anonymous No.]

no I haven't

[Anonymous No.]

ＤJT is boring right now
you guys are boring

[moenigger No.]

don't worry im back

[Anonymous No.]

you'd have all the fun if you knew nihongo

[Anonymous No.]

>>21610748
Good. Study Japanese instead or reading posts then.

[Anonymous No.]

>世田谷の岡本
can you read this?

[Anonymous No.]

>>21610748
better than listening to japanese though

[Anonymous No.]

>>21610758
world ricefield valley of hill book

[Anonymous No.]

Imagine unironically coming here to get your fill of fun

[Anonymous No.]

rtk friend to the rescue

[Anonymous No.]

remember names are vocab words too and if you cant read them you dont know japanese

[Anonymous No.]

>>21610766
This is the least shit general on this website that I've been to

[Anonymous No.]

is evangelion, especially EoE, easier to understand if i learn japanese

[moenigger No.]

reminder reading isn't japanese only listening and speaking is

[Anonymous No.]

>>21610787
read >>21610758

[moenigger No.]

>>21610792
>>21610765

[Anonymous No.]

>>21610765
t. RTKfag

[Anonymous No.]

u sippaisita'd

[Anonymous No.]

>>21610786
youll understand some of the stuff like the letters written to the director and i think some scenes have flashing japanese text that you can read but other then that not really

[Anonymous No.]

>>21610786
Kind of, they fucked up the translations pretty bad.. like they're not even fighting "angels" in the japanese one but 使徒 shito, which are like "apostles". There's a bunch of shit like that where they renamed it to make it more flashy in the english. There's a lot of sci-fi and military words to know. The slice of life stuff is super easy japanese though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21610752
actually i was ditching you for nihongo since you’re boring and what i’m doing in nihongo is more fun

[Anonymous No.]

good on (you)

[Anonymous No.]

so yeah reading really is an srs when you do it a lot new words repeat themselves a lot since authors like to use the same words. bonus is its not on a flashcard and youre connecting it to new words on the fly

[Anonymous No.]

>雨水
can you read it?

[Anonymous No.]

>>21610885
can you?

[Anonymous No.]

>>21610885
うるるよしみ

[Anonymous No.]

>>21610885
rain water

[Anonymous No.]

>>21610885
I failed predictably since I have not heard this word before but it would have been my second choice at least.

[Anonymous No.]

we need more like this

[Anonymous No.]

I don't

[Anonymous No.]

I feel like spending a lot of time talking to Japanese people, watching Japanese livestreams, etc has really messed up my appreciation of DJT memes because now that I have a strong grasp of how the language actually works, it's hard to work up the motivation to care about memes or arguments. Like after seeing Japanese people mispronounce basic words like 描写, 村長, etc it gets hard to meme about whether or not people can read certain words here or what have you. It's honestly just kind of embarrassing to see beginners and beginners-who-think-they're-intimidates have catfights about dumb shit here when the truth is so clear but beyond their grasp.

I guess this is how an adult feels when they see middle schoolers arguing about pokemon or something. It's just impossible to care or feel anything but secondhand embarrassment.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21611061
it's also somewhat arbitrary or are you going to tell me rarely and seldom are clearly defined as one to be more than the other in your mind?

>>21611071
No shit this thread is a dumpster fire. Stupid teenagers who are more preoccupied with appearing they know Japanese than actually wanting to learn Japanese.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21611071
I have to agree but it's funny to look at those dumb arguments when you take a break from actual japanese

[Anonymous No.]

>>21611071
its ok to mess up words but lets not act like japanese ppl cant read a ton more words than you can, right? all it should mean is dont be so hard on yourself. i laugh when i see japanese people just skip over words they cant read and wish i could do that and not feel bad

[Anonymous No.]

>it's hard to work up the motivation to care about memes or arguments
that was pretty cringe tb h. Nothing is more cancerous than self righteous anti-meme'ers

[Anonymous No.]

>>21611105
>i laugh when i see japanese people just skip over words they cant read and wish i could do that and not feel bad
I do this constantly and not feel bad. It's not like people don't just silently ignore words they don't understand in their own language. Being a perfectionist is not very productive for language learning in my opinion.

[Anonymous No.]

Please halp. I'm an absolute dekinai, doing the N5 Tango deck at the moment and encountered this:

ゆっくり 言ってください。

which it translates as "Please repeat what you said slowly."

Shouldn't it just be "Speak slowly, please"?

[Anonymous No.]

It blew my mind when I started finding typos, or mispronounced words in japanese. Or like an improper usage of かわいそう, etc..
And the people always preaching here lol "don't output in japanese yet", "don't read the japanese in the thread or you'll permanently cripple your nihongo".. It's all kind of funny to me now. Because I realize now anything is better than nothing. Language is a sloppy mess really and we only make it work because of insane amounts of exposure to it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21611169
>Language is a sloppy mess really and we only make it work because of insane amounts of exposure to it.
This desu senpai

[Anonymous No.]

>>21611156
English translations are a mess on a good day. Usually the best people can hope for with an English translation is conveying roughly the same information as the original with no fucking guarantees to keep wording or structure similar to the original.

This is why you should never rely on an English translation to teach you how the Japanese sentence works. It can only serve as a backup to understand the intention of the sentence if you have no fucking clue what's going on.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21611156
try to remember that english is not japanese and to not fret over translation at that level. if it bothers you, delete the flashcard. youll see those words so many times in the future anyways

[Anonymous No.]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CeZSZ3PYyHA
how is aichan playing games with herself now?

[Anonymous No.]

Who is the Shakespeare of Japanese literature?

[Anonymous No.]

shakespeare translated into japanese

[Anonymous No.]

>>21611297
Tanaka Romeo

[Anonymous No.]

>>21611314
I wanted to read YMK in Japanese, but the English version is uncensored. I'm torn. What should I do?

[Anonymous No.]

>>21611180
Just answer my simple question, you pseudo-intellectual fuck. On a second thought, I don't actually want an answer from you specifically. If you happen to be this hack >>21611071, get your head out of your ass, you wanker.
These threads have become worse because of ass clowns like you, shitting them up with your off-topic, tangental, entry level philosophising. People like you are self-masturbatory hacks, who love nothing more in the world than to hear themselves talk, wailing in their own narcissistic palaver like pigs in shit.
>>21611231 This applies to you too, you parrot.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21611297
https://core6000.neocities.org/aozora/
The one that's got the most kanji

[Anonymous No.]

it has lost its magic time to move on and learn korean

[Anonymous No.]

>>21611335
My legitimate advice is quit caring about censorship. If you're going to be consuming Japanese porn actively you're just going to have to get used to censorship. Clinging to the few instances of uncensored English releases will just prolong your suffering.

[Anonymous No.]

Wow, why is this dekinai such an angry loser. When he could just read more and not ask stupid questions.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21611338
I gave you an answer. I didn't anticipate your brain being too small to understand it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21611348
I'm not particularly amused either by learning new kanji, words, or making cards, but I do know that I love light novels, manga, and visual novels a lot more than I could ever possibly care for fake-ass K-pop or K-drama.

[Anonymous No.]

Man it's so fucking weird being able to understand more and more. I heard this thing 20 times and never had a clue what was what. Then one day my subconscious just low key decrypted it for me and handed it off to my frontal-lobe like 'no big deal, here'. Trust your unconscious mind, because your conscious mind is pretty useless for language.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21611364
>your conscious mind is useless
Fixed

[Anonymous No.]

>>21611338
Not surprised to see an "absolute dekinai" reacting with such kneejerk hostility to those more educated than them.

[Anonymous No.]

verbs and their conjugations are the biggest pain in the arse. everyone seems to worry about the kanji in the beginning,but they are easier than fucking verbs

[Anonymous No.]

>>21611392
memorizing them for the purpose of pointless outputting as a beginner would be annoying, sure, but merely reading them? not tough.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21611338
The sentence shown there is a conventional translation (>>21611156). They are not literal equivalents, but they are supposed to be equivalent in terms of the effect that they could produce. If you want a literal translation, it would make more sense to look each term up on a dictionary one-by-one.
言う means to speak.
言って is the imperative form of 言う (whoever would be saying that sentence would be telling the other person to speak , which could be rendered as "You, speak.")
ゆっくり言って - "Speak slowly".
ください - a way of making a slightly polite request, equivalent to "please" (as in "Please do this for me".)
"ゆっくり言ってください。" - "Please speak slowly" could be a good translation for this.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21611338
The sentence shown there is a conventional translation (>>21611156). They are not literal equivalents, but they are supposed to be equivalent in terms of the effect that they could produce (in other words, if you used either one of those sentences, another person would be able ot understand that your desired reaction would be the same in either one of those cases). If you want a literal translation, it would make more sense to look each term up on a dictionary one-by-one.
言う means to speak.
言って is the imperative form of 言う (whoever would be saying that sentence would be telling the other person to speak , which could be rendered as "You, speak.")
ゆっくり言って - "Speak slowly".
ください - a way of making a slightly polite request, equivalent to "please" (as in "Please do this for me".)
"ゆっくり言ってください。" - "Please speak slowly" could be a good translation for this.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21611338
ゆっくりしていってね！！！

And don't get a headache trying to figure out why this is "Take it easy!!!" in English.

[Anonymous No.]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=suoX_GBgCaw

do japs like tf2

[Anonymous No.]

汝>あなた

[Anonymous No.]

もう一度話してください

[Anonymous No.]

>>21611364
>>21611372
your conscious mind is what makes learning to read even possible
they work together doing different things
you guys default to black and white thinking a lot

[moenigger No.]

>>21611071
based

[Anonymous No.]

>that day zengin was qm

[Anonymous No.]

>>21611338
lol throwing a baby fit over beginner flashcard materials and when people tell you what's up you act like this. you arent going to learn japanese with translation flashcards baby

[Anonymous No.]

>>21611545
He's probably not going to learn Japanese solely by depending upon English equivalents for Japanese sentences, but I honestly don't see why learning to identify Japanese words (not entire sentences, but rather isolated words) through good English equivalents would be bad, at least at the beginning.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21611354
You failed to give me a simple answer to a very simple quesiton. Instead you went on a DUDE WEED LMAO levels philosophy speech about languages and their concepts, you Nietzsche wannabe. Honestly off yourself, du geistig beschränkter Klugscheißer. How about you try to translate that that last part into English, conveying its meaning as closely as possible to the original?
>>21611376
>>21611436
Absolute clowns.
>>21611433
Thank you, anon. Much appreciated. A translation should always strife to be as faithful as possible, yet as free as necessary, unlike what the retards above love to spout. Hence my initial question, because I was sure the translation was sloppy at best and completely wrong at worst.
"Please repeat what you said slowly" and "Speak slowly, please" ask for two entirely differnt things.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21611587
>Honestly off yourself, du geistig beschränkter Klugscheißer. How about you try to translate that that last part into English, conveying its meaning as closely as possible to the original?
War klar das du Deutsch bist du Hirnlein. Reih Dich ein neben dem Quiztrottel.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21611587
>"Please repeat what you said slowly" and "Speak slowly, please" ask for two entirely differnt things.
They might be somewhat different, but they could both be validly applicable in a situation where a person did not quite another person was saying, and wanted them to say it more clearly.

[Anonymous No.]

女心を理解したい :/

[Anonymous No.]

>>21608386
Is it fully usable yet?
"Nazeka is almost ready for general use."

[Anonymous No.]

>>21611614
>did not quite another person
*did not quite understand what another person

[Anonymous No.]

>>21611613
dass=/=das, du peinlich dummer Spasti. War ja klar dass so ein Hauptschüler wie du es bist, es mit der Genauigkeit nicht so ernst nimmt.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21611614
he's not gonna get it just leave him alone it's like a rabid dog if you get to close it'll attack you

>>21611581
i think so too but he just doesn't understand that things can mean different things depending on what happened. like in that case someone could have said something all fast and confusing and the person listening gives a troubled face and says that in that case it means say that again slowly.

again i just think its weird to be so persistent about some of the most common words in the language that youll figure out even if you tried not to
but you saw how he reacted to everyone trying to help him maybe it's just that kind of personality

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>21611655
If your Japanese is as bad and sloppy as your English, then I'm afraid you will never make it. Your foundation is brittle.

[Anonymous No.]

big black heaven great mystery sanskrit ka gauze

[Anonymous No.]

>>21611647
Tanoshii mono wa tanoshii desu desu

[Anonymous No.]

I actually heard 矍鑠 in an anime for the first time after mining it from this thread to pad my kanji count years ago. It was all worth it

[Anonymous No.]

>>21611782
Which one was it?

[Anonymous No.]

>>21611782
Fuck, it was actually 赫灼. Screw this gay language. I quit.

>>21611797
Kimetsu no Yaiba

[Anonymous No.]

die forever general norms

[Anonymous No.]

>>21611338

[Anonymous No.]

お腹空いたなぁ
食べ放題行きたいけど
大雨がやばい

[Anonymous No.]

I hate listening. I hate listening. I hate listening.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21611815
Lisn2sumthinulike

[Anonymous No.]

>>21611616
That just means "your favorite Rikaisama feature might not be implemented yet and something might break for a week or two for no apparent reason".

[Anonymous No.]

>>21611818
I tried it with my favorite episodes of my favorite shows. I also tried watching new shows I'm interested in like Golden Wind which even has pretty good j subs. As a last resort I tried the "passive listening" meme and played some podcasts in the background that I barely pay attention to while doing something else. I hate all of it. When I started learning half a year ago I thought reading was going to be what would make or break my learning and so that's what I focused on. I'll pull through eventually because I know it's a matter of just putting in the time like I've done with reading which I also disliked at first, but I really did not expect to hate it this much.

[Anonymous No.]

tell me what porn game to read next

[Anonymous No.]

>>21611850
>game
>read
雷の戦士ライディ

[Anonymous No.]

you can't read what isnt manga

[Anonymous No.]

how do you make it through the extremely long vns do you just keep reading it until its over or do you take breaks and read other stuff in between

[Anonymous No.]

>>21611842
I don't get why. I love the sound of Japanese. It was one of the main motivators why I even want to learn the language. Listening to show audio or even just watching Japanese TV is way more fun for me than just reading, even though I will understand less due to the speed of normal speech.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21611850
'Dead days' and 'Great Deceiver' just came out

[Anonymous No.]

nice おっぱい

[Anonymous No.]

>>21611857
>>21611896
ok i will try them thanks

[Anonymous No.]

>he still thinks rtk is a good idea

[Anonymous No.]

>>21611810
WHICH
GAME

[Anonymous No.]

>>21611967
デュープリズム for ps1
was pretty good desu and you can pick one of two characters to play as

[Anonymous No.]

>>21611842
i don't get what's to hate about people talking..
is it just that you're so bad at it that you can't understand?

[Anonymous No.]

If manga is eating then is pizza manga?

[Anonymous No.]

>>21612076

[Quizmaster No.]

>>21611613
Why would you ever mention me in the same sentence with a hopeless sub N5 loser
nothing will change about that I‘m better than you

[Anonymous No.]

>>21608515
Stop posting everything I post on Reddit.

[moenigger No.]

the idea of "staying motivated" is so plebeian to me. to me getting good at japanese is not an option it's simply an inevitable result, as if it were prophesized in ancient texts that i would become nihongo jesus

[Anonymous No.]

ハメ撮り流出

[Anonymous No.]

「凄い神経してるね」
found it interesting u can use shinkei this way
like "the nerve of some people" "shes got some nerve (to do that shit)"

[Anonymous No.]

>>21612116
lmaoing@your life you failed abortion.

[Anonymous No.]

うわぁinputいっぱい出来て達成感凄い！
じゃあ、食べ放題に行こうか！

[Anonymous No.]

Hey /DJT/ quick question
I just started reading よつばと！and was wondering if as a very early beginner to reading Japanese if it's better to have sentences contain furigana in my sentence cards or not? I was thinking because they are such simple and common Kanji I'd pick up the readings fast, but I didn't know if I was right in that assumption? Should I keep the furigana on, keep it on for words I may have trouble remembering the sounds, or turn them off entirely? Thanks for the help.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21611156
What does the entry in your book show? Could be a typo by whoever made that deck.

[Quizmaster No.]

>>21612265
If it makes you feel better about your failures laugh all you want apparently it’s a human mechanism to alleviate suffering and disaster

[Anonymous No.]

>>21612346
hmm
i’d say keep em on for the first 100 cards then take them off from that point on

[Anonymous No.]

>>21612515
Thanks I really appreciate your answer. I don't want to fuck up and just be reading Furigana like an asshat but I was really having trouble without it in some cases. I will take your advice and do that, thank you so much! Good luck on everything Japanese!

[Anonymous No.]

あぁ〜
心が軽くて
笑顔が自然に浮かんできて
感謝が溢れてて
幸せ〜(´∀｀)

[Anonymous No.]

k bros, tell me what ebic anime to watch right now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21612665
puella magica madoka

[Anonymous No.]

>>21612668
seen it, what type of basic ass suggestion, do you expect anyone on a anime board to have not seen it?

[Anonymous No.]

>>21612522
どういたしまして(^^)
ありがとう
素晴らしい日本語の旅を！

[Anonymous No.]

>>21612675
you'll be surprised

[Anonymous No.]

>>21612679
more suggestions please, i need more fuel to keep watching every day like i have for over a year

[Quizmaster No.]

>>21612720
Thunderbolt Fantasy

[Anonymous No.]

加速
i hate this word

[Anonymous No.]

>>21611392
Verbs are easy af? It's literally effortless if you just get out of the way and let your subconscious figure it out.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21611496
Because it is black and white. Over 95 percent of brain activity is beyond our conscious awareness. It takes 3 separate regions of the subconscious brain to read and then you become consciously aware of it. Your conscious mind can "monitor" your input which actually interferes with language acquisition.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21612828
>because it is black and white
no it’s not
consciously learning and practicing how to pronounce kana and read kanji, what grammar structures mean etc is necessary before your subconscious can do any of what you described
no one just picks up a japanese book without studying anything and boom their subconscious can understand it
you have to feed the subconscious via the conscious until it can start putting together patterns and doing things with automaticity

[Anonymous No.]

same thing with learning how to drive a car or any other skill that becomes automatic after some period of deliberate practice

[Anonymous No.]

>>21612874
The conversation was about comprehension in general, not reading. Every normal human being on the earth learns language the same way, and it isn't through abstract grammar rules. Learning a language is nothing like deriving a car. Your brain was designed for language not driving. Your consciousness is literally a handicap. Look into the monitor hypothesis.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21612665
Chobits

[Anonymous No.]

>>21612665
Austin Powers

[Anonymous No.]

>>21612346
I'd say core/qm-style kanji in front, kana on the back vocabulary cards might be better for learning new words than sentence cards.
I'd only use sentence cards for grammar patterns meant to be reviewed.

[Anonymous No.]

>Acquisition of language is a natural, intuitive, and subconscious process of which individuals need not be aware. One is unaware of the process as it is happening and, when the new knowledge is acquired, the acquirer generally does not realize that he or she possesses any new knowledge
daily reminder

[Anonymous No.]

>>21612665
巌窟王 (that 2004 adaptation of The Count of Monte Cristo made by Gonzo) is rather "ebic" in terms of visuals (especially its shitty-but-also-cool-looking CG castles and knights).

[Anonymous No.]

>>21613012
This sure would like to be true but for second languages that are greatly unlike your first, this is pretty much horseshit. You can't "subconsciously" learn Kanji meanings/readings. You might guess an 音読み if you're lucky, but even that's unreliable.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21613034
Of course you have to learn to read the writing, that's a tool you have to learn to use, but the language itself you absolutely do not need to.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21611061
u may get wrong >>21558359

[Anonymous No.]

>>21613068
If you're gonna handwave away the hard part of the language and then say it's ez then you aren't really making a point.
Russian would definitely make a good case for grammar being absurdly hard to learn, and not really done passively. You've posted a platitude that's meaningless for anyone not learning a romance language.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21613012
Acquisition means getting 慣れた'd to the way a language is pronounced and what kind of patterns one can notice in it, but actual usage and comprehension of a language require for a subject to be fully conscious of what words mean on their own, together in a sentence, and how they convey complex thoughts.
I'm an autist and a Kantian, so I don't believe that there is such thing as subconscious thoughts. The subconscious can be nothing but obscure, fuzzy fragments of memories, which can never be of true "use".

[Anonymous No.]

>>21613086
>reading is the hard part of the language
Dude reading is easy as fuck compared to listening and speaking.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21613101
Anything you practice is easy. Anything you don't practice is difficult.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21613101
>reading is easy as fuck compared to listening and speaking.
t. autist with no Japanese friends who thinks manga is reading

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>21612285
word of the day : 乞食

[Anonymous No.]

Basically you learn fags are going to be autistic in japanese too

[Quizmaster No.]

>>21613185
You know in terms of classroom teaching this is all great for most languages but it kind of falls apart when you consider how Japanese learners 1 year in still can’t string together a correct sentence, teaching Japanese in a classroom authentically really is impossible

[Anonymous No.]

>>21613185
How do ankiboys fit into this dualistic dogmatic belief system?

[Anonymous No.]

>>21613185
Basically you retards don't seem to understand you need to learn before you can acquire

You're never gonna just "acquire" kanji/reading ability and in a language as laden with homophones as Japanese, it would be stupid to only do acquisition and neglect learning

[moenigger No.]

>>21613185
me on the right

[Anonymous No.]

基本的にわたしはゲイ

[Anonymous No.]

imagine trying to learn a language with only 5% of your brain lol

[Anonymous No.]

>>21613299
that's... not how it works lol
your subconscious collects data when you control and direct what's conscious (that's what learning words, grammar, beginner reading etc is. staring at a wall of japanese text as a beginner isn't going to do anything unless you consciously try to figure out what it means)
the subconscious then stores some of that information (whatever makes it into long-term memory, not everything does right away), puts patterns together, makes connections, and that shows up as "subconscoius skill"
it can't do that without being given any conscious information to work on though, which is why conscious learning is necessary first
as usual you guys are creating arguments from an incomplete understanding and it's pretty clumsy of you

[Anonymous No.]

>>21613268
>Basically you retards don't seem to understand you need to learn before you can acquire
>You're never gonna just "acquire" kanji/reading ability and in a language as laden with homophones as Japanese, it would be stupid to only do acquisition and neglect learning
exactly. in fact acquisition is literally impossible without the initial learning steps
its like trying to "acquire" the skill of driving without being taught what any of the controls in the car do
like... have fun running the car off the road?

[Anonymous No.]

>>21613299
Just like
Choose to use your unconscious mind bro
Just like, use it bro

[moenigger No.]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fUxgijxwgQQ

[Anonymous No.]

>>21613412
>in fact acquisition is literally impossible without the initial learning steps
then every child is doing the impossible?

[Anonymous No.]

If you compare language to driving you might be retarded

[moenigger No.]

driving: takes 10 hours to learn
language: takes 100000 hours to learn

[Anonymous No.]

>>21613427
If you have 3 years to be completely immersed in a language only to wind up with a functional vocabulary of 100 words and still be completely illiterate, you go for it. Also, parents and early school do attempt to TEACH language to the children, rather than make them acquire it.
inb4 "b-b-but he said LITERALLY and that means LITERALLY"

[Anonymous No.]

>>21613427
>then every child is doing the impossible?
if you spent any time around children you'd know they are constantly being corrected by adults or being told by adults what things are called
they do not magically figure it all out on their own. conscious learning is happening all throughout the process aided by adults/siblings etc,
not just in the classroom

[Anonymous No.]

>>21613431
>if you compare a skill to another skill then you might be retarded
>oh wait that's me, i'm retarded because i struggle to make connections between fundamentally similar processes

[Anonymous No.]

>>21613446
Think of it as learning to drive through every single major road in the world, not as "just driving".
You can easily learn the basics of Japanese grammar and sentence construction in less than a week (word order, verb conjugations, particles, まま, はず, べき, わけ, という, etc.), but you still gotta learn how thousands of other words are used too, if you want to fill your sentences with something.

[moenigger No.]

why do language learners make this cope all the time
>b-but input takes too long. im an adult and i have a job and kids and cant spend my time learning the language im trying to learn im just too busy and popular and important

[Anonymous No.]

the necessary brain functions for all the motor skills required to drive a car are "pre-packed" in our brains just like the necessary functions for learning language
that doesn't me we don't still have to learn the damn thing and have our misunderstandings/knowledge gaps consciously guided and corrected in order for actual skill to form
lock a kid in a dark room from birth with nothing but adequate food, a harry potter book and a read-along CD (no parents/adults aka human dictionaries) and see how much language he "acquires"

[Anonymous No.]

>>21608970
the boring person is literally just /djt/, you don't like it cuz it's dissing you niggy

[moenigger No.]

月火水木
金土日

[Anonymous No.]

What’s a good show I can turn my brain off while watching without JP subs, not worry too much about analyzing sentences, but still learn Japanese from?

[Anonymous No.]

>>21613458
Babies are retarded and you did say literally. By age 10 a child effortlessly knows about 40,000 words.

[moenigger No.]

>>21613557
anything

[Anonymous No.]

>>21613557
The answer is always the one you enjoy the most

[Anonymous No.]

>>21613560
I'm literally not the guy who said literally, though.
Also, those studies are suspect as fuck, since most vocabulary samples put adults at 30-40k words total (passive, not active, which is more like 20k). That especially puts the estimated high schooler knowing 80k into comical territory.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21613593
I mean I'm just theorizing myself and researching this stuff on the side. Personally I think you should learn at the start but acquisition is so vastly superior that you should only be learning enough to allow the subcon to kick in.

[Anonymous No.]

does listening to japanese in the background make sense or will the brain only register it as background noise and it will make it harder to learn nihonlanguage in the long run?

[Anonymous No.]

>>21613609
Yeah I'm with you here. AnkiDrone until you only ever come across a sentence that's +1 at which case, you really don't have any reason to rep shit.

[Anonymous No.]

my girl thought I was calling her smart, but I was just complimenting her blowjob
joking I don't have a girlfriend

[Anonymous No.]

you don't need conscious guidance if you have a world to learn from and if you don't have a world to learn from then conscious guidance isn't going to teach you jack shit lmao
You don't know Japanese.

[Anonymous No.]

can you please answer my question

[Anonymous No.]

>>21613628
できない detected

[Anonymous No.]

please could you answer my question

[Anonymous No.]

also apparently normal people didn't learn their native languages before public schooling became a thing and people in extremely poor countries with no education systems don't learn their native languages either or something fucking retarded like that think before you post man the world is vast and history is long your random "oh hey"s don't mean anything if they don't hold up outside of your personal experience
>>21613636
お前さんこそできぬ子じゃろう。良き聞け間抜けさんよ。何も知らねば何も話せぬ。

[Anonymous No.]

>>21613619
It really depends on your level, the content you choose, etc. I don't think it could hurt you. If you can't comprehend any of it then it won't help much either.

[Anonymous No.]

thank you for answering my question

[moenigger No.]

>>21613619
you should listen to japanese all the time
you will pay attention some times no matter what
you will gain a benefit however marginal
not listening to japanese can only offer you 0 benefit

[Anonymous No.]

thank you for answering my question also

[Anonymous No.]

mmm you know what i sure want to get distracted all the time let's put on some anime i'm not gonna pay attention to and can hardly understand at all and just leave it on all day every day seems like a good idea to me

[Anonymous No.]

thank you for your opinion, i also think it's a good idea but wanted to see other's opinions first

[Anonymous No.]

>>21613644
>apparently normal people didn't learn their native languages before public schooling
i already fucking said school is not the only place where conscious learning can happen are you blind
a kid going "mama what's this" and being told, or calling a squirrel "cat" and being told "no, that's a squirrel" until they stop calling it cat is effectively what happens at school but less structured

[Anonymous No.]

>>21613619
I'm always listening to jmusic while learning nihongo and it pass as background until you pay attention and recognize sentences. Idk if that helps tho
Here have some yasashii listening https://youtu.be/4iOxYluOo50

[Anonymous No.]

thank you for your answer and for the music, i will listen to it

[Anonymous No.]

>>21613682
woah dude chill out the shit i was making fun of is obviously inconsistent with what you said why are you >>ing me

[Anonymous No.]

as a thanks for the music i will also post a music that a acquaintance sent me when i was nervous about my japanese
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bmmbcQbHxUA
i think it's a very nice song and i hope you enjoy it

[Anonymous No.]

>>21613701
https://youtu.be/7I2Ryji_9Js

[Anonymous No.]

thank you for posting a song, i will listen to it

[Anonymous No.]

thank you for posting, i will read it

[Anonymous No.]

thank you for reading, i appreciate it

[Anonymous No.]

ok

[moenigger No.]

[Anonymous No.]

as thanks for the nice song you posted i will also post a song, i like this song very much and other songs of the uploader too, you might want to check them out
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0c9958OoTL8

[Anonymous No.]

>>21613740
who is the singer? Her voice is quite similar to passepied singer https://youtu.be/MTuOcF9skis

[Anonymous No.]

i don't know, couldn't really find any info on it so i doubt it's the same person but i only briefly searched so i might be wrong, also nice song

[Anonymous No.]

日本語大好き！
文字が綺麗し…
漫画、ノベルゲーム、アニメとかも
数え切れないほど多いし
やっぱり日本語を学ぼうとして良かったなぁ

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>21607091
Stop using kireicake immediately

[Anonymous No.]

>>21607091
read the guide retard

[Anonymous No.]

>>21614012
今は楽しいかもしれないが
いつか死ぬ時が来る
その時お前は自分に問うべきだ
過ごした人生には果たして意味があったのか

[Anonymous No.]

it's nice to be reading a ln and then you get horny and read some porn with the characters from the ln and you see they're very in character and even speak the same way, to think i couldn't appreciate it until now...

[Anonymous No.]

>>21614112
死なんて怖くないよ？？笑
自然なことだから
今まで私の人生は凄く恵まれてて
好きなことが色々出来たので
感謝してます
いつか死ぬ時が来たら満足感で去って行くんだ

[Anonymous No.]

i read today, tommorow i will try to read more, without anki holding me back i now feel like i can do something

[Anonymous No.]

One day I'll have a 2d imouto gf like akane (also look this language is so fuckin easy)

[Anonymous No.]

windows cmd is so fucking garbage

[Anonymous No.]

>>21614203
お前が潔く“死が怖くない”なんてバカなことをほざいても死より怖いものこの世にはない
死とは人間にとってもっとも不自然な現象であるからな
そもそも怖いかどうかの問題じゃない
意味のない人生には真の喜びなどこれっぽっちもない
貴様でさえいずれわかるだろう
今はこの漫然な生き方を堪能するがよい

[Anonymous No.]

wtf is a 掃除フェラ

[Anonymous No.]

licking someone's dick clean