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>>21490575 (previous thread)

>> No.21502673

>>21502647
犯さないで

>> No.21502683

>他人事
>人事
you fuckin kiddin me japanese?

>> No.21502721

為人 lol

>> No.21502799

た たうえ

>> No.21502807

>>21502683
I've seen たにんごと so I kind of prefer that reading though yes it would be semantically identical to ひとごと

>> No.21502832
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21502832

How's your immersion going today, boys?

Making Matt and Yoga proud?

>> No.21502871

どおしぃて 二本ご むずカしい ですぅか?

>> No.21502873

whats a good jp youtuber that doesnt talk a billion miles per hour

>> No.21502923

>>21502873
Dunno. Look up trending videos on Youtube. If you watch enough of them, you'll eventually get used to the way real 日本人 talk.

>> No.21502927

>>21502832
Does reading LARP threads on 2chan count as immersion?

>> No.21502938
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21502938

JLPT Tango N5 N4 decks got finally uploaded to Cornucopia

N5:
https://mega.nz/#!PjZCnCaT!qh2avtrLw-fHdY3kSmUbO3ElwA13ZxYxS5ra3gF1ho8

N4:
https://mega.nz/#!OmYwWQob!x3UZsh5qE4WunADahdxrVzOvGlVfPCAxbtzBcfctYF4

>> No.21502958

>>21502532
>tfw 小1 students already have a 99% 検定1 合格 rate
no they do not.... i work with 3rd graders and many of them still write in all kana.

>> No.21502962

Will someone explain to me why people do the thing where they get the い形容詞, conjugate it to have a く ending, then put in the は particle? I’ve seen it a bunch of times, but still can’t fully understand how that works and google doesn’t help.

>> No.21502988

>>21502938
Are these any different than the ones "pea brain matt" accidentally leaked on Twitter?

>> No.21502991

>>21502988
these are the same, thanks to Matt!

>> No.21503000

>>21502962
I think the は is just to add emphasis, like when you use it between て and いる. Got any usage examples to share?

>> No.21503011

Do the jlpt levels get exponentially harder or something?

>> No.21503018

>>21502938
Oh those are pretty nice if you are just starting
probably better than core or anime mining from the start

MACA goes like this now
First do those Tango decks (pirate them and don't pay Matt or for the books)
and then do MASSIVE ANIME CARDS
good shit

>> No.21503026

>>21503000
>我輩にわざわざ隠すほどのことならば深くは聞かないでありますよ
I more or less understand the sentence but the things like 深くは just make me wonder y’know.

>> No.21503028

>>21503018
Red MACA caps when?

>> No.21503029

>>21502938
>JLPT N5
>JLPT N4
Why would someone use these premade decks over over Core6K? I don't understand the appeal.

>> No.21503033

>>21503011
The gap between 1級 and 2級 is supposed to be larger than the gap between 5級 and 2級.

>> No.21503035

>>21503033
it gets exponentially easier to learn japanese tho so it balances out unless you continue to anki drone

>> No.21503048
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21503048

>>21503028
MACA has no caps
MACA only has capes
and when we have conquered Japanese and united all Japanese learners under one banner
we will raise a glorious 勝鬨
https://streamable.com/frk9o

>> No.21503049

>>21503026
Yeah, that looks like it's being used for emphasis.

You're probably best Googling or maybe asking in the Japanese thread on /int/ to be sure before taking my word for it though.

>> No.21503063

>>21503018
yeah anime cards are the shit, can't believe i ever doubted. loving it so far.

>> No.21503072

>>21503048
While most here hate it, I genuinely respect you for your grandiosity. You are the 凄腕poster who will burn this fucking 胡散臭いMIA shit to the ground. I believe.

>> No.21503084

>>21503033
It's extremely hard to get from "I know fairly well a language" to "I've mastered every single aspect of it and know most of the slang the natives use"
A good example is French, my mother tongue. Of course you could speak very well after several years and know many tenses like futur simple, passé antérieur, conditionnel passé, etc. but when you start talking about subjonctif passé, futur antérieur... most non-natives start scratching their heads as they have a hard time wrapping them about those concepts and why the conjugation is so mind-numbingly complex.
It's like with every thing: you learn easy stuff at first, and then, the deeper you go, the harder things become.

>> No.21503091

Reminder that Quizmaster is a fraud and the real anime cards are anon's. https://streamable.com/f4gxv
Also basic and intermediate grammar are best learned from massive amounts of compelling input, even if it's barely comprehensible.
You can read Tae Kim to make it easier to get through large amounts of compelling input but don't bother studying consciously past that point.
MACI - Massive Amounts of Compelling Input

>> No.21503092
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21503092

>yeah anime cards are the shit, can't believe i ever doubted. loving it so far.

>> No.21503093

not listening to the anime sentence until you've recalled the word's 発音 and 意味 by itself first, i agree with now after trying both ways.
however i still believe the picture is better placed on the front, along with the word.
>>21503084
>"I've mastered every single aspect of it and know most of the slang the natives use"
no one has mastered every single aspect of any language though as a native english speaker there are still things i skip/ignore/couldn't be bothered trying to figure out. they're just much rarer now.

the only things i still disagree with QM on is that picture should go on the front.

>> No.21503094

>>21503091
>https://streamable.com/f4gxv
holy shit

how will quiztard ever recover?

>> No.21503107

>>21503094
>https://streamable.com/f4gxv
have fun uploading all those videoclips lol this is rape to anki's servers

>> No.21503111

>>21503107
why would you enable media sync on a profile that has videos in it

>> No.21503114

>>21503111
so you're only planning to review on the computer? ok

>> No.21503121

>>21503107
They're only around 10x bigger than the sentence audio alone, plus you can just drop the quality settings a lot if you want a super small video. You can notice that this video is downscaled a lot already, for example.

>> No.21503123

>>21503063
>>21503072
I'm not good at replying to positive comments but I appreciate it really cool

>>21503094
>>21503107
I already explained it. Those cards have pretty much no advantage over normal anime cards, are more of a pain in the ass, can't be phone reviewed, you need to press the play button to play the video every time etc. but the guy keeps spamming the 1 card he made like it means anything when I've actually shown anime cards work by making over 10000 of them
it just looks cool one time but these are actual gimmick cards while anime cards are a deeply thought through concept and optimized to be as close to perfection as possible
so far everyone who tried to improve on anime cards failed because they didn't understand them in the first place

>> No.21503128

>>21503123
>Those cards have pretty much no advantage over normal anime cards
Visual context?
>can't be phone reviewed
>>21503121
>you need to press the play button to play the video every time
This is actually a good thing and you can easily make them autoplay after a small delay (to let the word audio play) with a little very basic scripting.

>> No.21503141

>>21503128
>Visual context?
yes my cards have visual context
whether it moves or not isn't important because if you watched the show and hear the audio you'll be able to picture the situation perfectly
besides the animation isn't the important thing but what is actually being said, the part of the language that you want to learn from
it's no advantages with a lot of disadvantages and if you want to bring the argument anime cards are hard to make then this is just even harder for no reason
so stop spamming your gay cards like they are in any way a replacement for real anime cards lol
you probably don't even make them yourself just made 1 card to spam DJT with
show off 10 cards right now, should be no problem as you actually use your method right? if it takes you a fair amount of time I'll assume you just made them

>> No.21503153

>>21503141
>this is just even harder for no reason
It takes the same amount of effort to actually make though.
The rest of your post is just being buttmad that you never decided to go through with making actual anime cards instead of ghetto dollar store AnImEcArDz that are just vocab cards with an anime screenshot on the back and someone got to it before you lmao.
>show off 10 cards right now, should be no problem as you actually use your method right?
I deleted my deck because normal vocab cards are better. I said that normal vocab cards were better in the original argument you had with me where I first posted this. I could make a fresh deck right now without much effort but I'd have a hard time finding stuff to mine since I basically know everything in the shows that I watch now.

>> No.21503160

草履虫 showed me that 虫 does not mean "bug"

>> No.21503161

Why keep it at anime and anki? Just use live action material like movies/series and upload the cards to a video platform like BitChute.

>> No.21503166

>>21503160
歯車 showed me that 車 does not mean car.

>> No.21503168

>>21503153
>normal vocab cards are better
not even remotely lol
>I'd have a hard time finding stuff to mine since I basically know everything in the shows that I watch now
doubt it

>> No.21503170

>>21503161
live action usually bores the shit out of me 2d is better

>> No.21503175

>>21503170
It's not about being boring (it's just a few sec of footage) but about showing context. It's ridiculous to act "3D NOT ALLOWED" in this context. Grow the fuck up.

>> No.21503179

>>21503153
lol you are full of shit
come on the quiz and prove you actually know jack shit because I think you are just pulling shit out of your ass :
https://discord.gg/5K5jQjG

>> No.21503188

>>21503179
Why would I accept a challenge to a game that you play but I don't? That would be retarded. My posts don't have anything to do about my skill level anyway, why the fuck are you trying to challenge me to a quiz? Talk about being an egotistical prick. Were you hurt so much by the observation that you would've come up with real anime cards if you realized that there weren't that hard to make or sync?

>> No.21503190

>>21503170
Honestly for me it's the opposite for like 15-20 years I was obsessed with anime but the more japanese I've learned the less I've been interested in it and the more interested I've become in wider japanese culture.

>> No.21503195

>>21503175
who the fuck said its not allowed lmao i said i personally dont care for it. people can't have preferences? fuck off old man

and if it's boring it defeats the purpose.

>> No.21503201

>>21503188
what game dude
the only thing you gotta do is read words
your excuse doesn't fly because both matt and jamal fan came on and performed spectacularly on their first try
you don't even have to play with me, play it by yourself just to prove your knowledge
you just suck ass and don't know shit
making shit up completely clueless about what actually works
loser

>> No.21503207

>>21503188
>Why would I accept a challenge to a game that you play but I don't?
how stupid can you be. there is NOTHING unique about the quiz, it's just fucking japanese words you have to type the reading for. you're acting like he's challenging you to a yugioh duel when you only play duelmasters or some shit. you're BOTH studying japanese so you BOTH should know N1 level japanese words.

>> No.21503210

How do you guys mine words? Just mine everything unknown and common you come across and let it pile up or only a little bit so you can actually finish it on the same day?

>> No.21503214
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21503214

Oh yeah, I realized that Ankiweb never actually deleted my old video media for some reason before I disabled media sync, so I have something resembling proof. I'm pretty sure I can't download the media alone (remember, no more cards associated with this media!) because of how anki and ankiweb work, and I'm not interested in expending the effort to find a way to get the media off of it. Even if I did, there's no more card data associated with it, so it would be pointless. About equivalent to me taking random clips from anime and claiming that they're from anime cards that I long-since deleted.

This number works out to having made about 100 or 200 cards with my old video encoding settings before disabling media sync, and I disabled it after a month or so of using the format, and I used it for seven months.
>>21503201
Mad.
>>21503207
Stop phone-samefagging.

>> No.21503220

So is there a link somewhere to these anime cards?

>> No.21503228

>>21503210
>How do you guys mine words? Just mine everything unknown and common you come across and let it pile up or only a little bit so you can actually finish it on the same day?
so since i've switched to primarily anime cards, i just keep mining from the anime till i reach 30 cards. then i either keep watching but not mining anything, or go do something else (and still not mine anything). basically just set a daily limit and stop mining once it's reached. don't forbid yourself from continuing to get input though. for the rest of your input for the day just look stuff up without adding. letting stuff pile up will most likely fuck you up.

also i personally don't mine uncommon shit. just stuff i don't know yet that seems like it may come in handy later. i'm not mining "paramecium" for example.

>> No.21503240

>>21503214
>Stop phone-samefagging.
i'm not quizmaster dumbass. i just agree that you are full of shit lol, not hard to see. i've challenged quizmaster and he's better at the quiz than me because he clearly knows more words. but at least i don't get on here and make bullshit excuses while pretending to be better than him like you do. now that's pathetic.

>> No.21503252

>>21503240
Man, I haven't seen samefagging this obvious since I looked at my own posts from two years ago. Feels good to have outgrown my obsessive phrase. Time to continue watching anime.

>> No.21503260

>>21503252
i guess it must be too painful to admit to yourself that two or more people think you're full of shit, so that's what you have to tell yourself.

>> No.21503267

>>21503063
where to find those cards?

>> No.21503269

m8 i think u missed the part where he said he doesnt have anything 2 prove b/c hes a big boy who dont give a flyin' fuck and how good he is at the nihongo doesnt matter anyw/
insert jamal tripcode and image with キャプチャ.jpg as the filename

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m8 i think u missed the part where he said he doesnt have anything 2 prove b/c hes a big boy who dont give a flyin' fuck and how good he is at the nihongo doesnt matter anyw/
please insert ur "anime cards" into hither receptacle

>> No.21503277
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21503277

As someone who has accumulated about 2000 anime cards, I agree with quiz. There is no advantage gained by including video in your anime cards. There are disadvantages though.

>> No.21503278

>>21503220
>>21503267
yeah please, tell

>> No.21503283

>>21503267
you make em yourself bro. matt vs japan on youtube has a 6 minute tutorial for a program called sharex, i finally figured out how to set it up once i watched that. it makes it easy to copy past audio and a screenshot from any anime you're watching, into a vocab card auto-generated from yomichan etc.

i timed myself and the whole process of making a card, from pausing the anime ep to continuing it, takes 30 seconds on average. this is to get a card complete with the vocab word, reading, screenshot from anime, audio clip from the anime, and definition. not bad since i just started. will probably get faster as i get used to it.

>> No.21503287

sharex tut
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IS7WzYICAsk

>> No.21503294

>>21503283
But the posts in this thread suggest there are anime cards someone is making for others to use >>21503091

>> No.21503297

>>21503278
>>21503220
you just make anki vocab cards from anime you watch with a screenshot and audio, there's nothing special about it

>> No.21503298

Why is Quizmaster so narcissistic?

>> No.21503305

>>21503298
ask yourself why he bothers you more than the 50 other shitposters here who are constantly talking crap to others

>> No.21503306

sub 110 IQ posters think they're just plain vocab cards with an image added or whatever but if you are capable of analyzing concepts with any amount of depth you'll come to realize that they are so much more

>> No.21503313

>>21503306
they are vocab cards with an image and audio, if there's anything more to it please do tell

>> No.21503317

maybe I haven't been posting flashcard videos often enough
https://streamable.com/jyhp3
there are anime cards
you make them yourself from anime you are watching
they are essentially heavily modified word cards with a specific method of reviewing

>> No.21503326

>heavily modified
>specific method of reviewing

>> No.21503334
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21503334

おはよう

コロコロって

えいごでなんていったらつうじますか

おしえて

>> No.21503339

>they are vocab cards with an image and audio, if there's anything more to it please do tell

how people can think this in the context of krashen i dont known. that fucking "please do tell" is telling of a sub 110 IQ trying to sound like a big brain. enjoy your mediocre existence lacking in any real value or depth since you are unable to analyse things and put 2 and fucking 2 together.

>> No.21503347

>>21503339
so there's nothing more to it

>> No.21503365

>>21503334
何に使う?
ペイントなら「paint roller」がいい!

>> No.21503375
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21503375

You keep bringing up 110 specifically like it's something to be proud of.

>> No.21503377

>i cant read between the lines or evaluate concepts with relation to each other, therefore anime cards are no more than mere vocab cards with compelling content on the back, how is this more efficient than just vocab cards with (at best) a gimped context sentence on the back??

>> No.21503381

>>21503365
>>21503334
塗料なら「paint roller」がいい
って言いたかった、すいません

>> No.21503383

everyone knows 130+ is something to be a little proud of. sub 110 is to make it clear how gimped you must be to not see the language acquisition value inherent in everything that distinguishes anime cards from regular yomichan one clickers

>> No.21503385

>>21503274
wtf is ur issue

>> No.21503391

>>21503365
>>21503381
じゅうたんにおちた

かみのけを

おそうじするもの

コロコロ

           はけ
塗料をぬるのは刷毛っていうよ

>> No.21503392

not a sharex fag but why not just add a custom uploader for ankiconnect so you don’t have to waste time editing the card it’s just automatic

>> No.21503399

Do the japs have a shorthand phrase for “usually written using kana alone”

>> No.21503404

>>21503267
You're supposed to make them yourself.
The anki guide in the op has a bit on the Quizmaster® Massive Anime Cards Approach™.
https://itazuraneko.neocities.org/learn/anki.html#import3

>> No.21503406

now this is the worst djt of all time

>> No.21503407

>>21503385
hey man dont hate im on the good side

>> No.21503409
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21503409

>>21503391
あっごめん、これだと思ってた

>> No.21503411

>>21503383
>the language acquisition value inherent in everything that distinguishes anime cards from regular yomichan one clickers
but i'm not comparing them to yomichan one clickers
i'm saying they're nothing more than vocab cards with screenshot and audio

>> No.21503412

>>21503391
髪の毛を拾う奴ならば「lint roller」っていうんだ

>> No.21503416

of course how did we not think of this before

the more shit u cram on a card the more shit u learn lol its geniOus

>> No.21503426

>>21503412
なんと失礼な

なんなんだよてめぇはぁ

はーッ

>> No.21503428

>>21503409
それが「はけ」

>>21503412
りんと

ろらあ

なまえがかっこいい

コロコロよりうれそう

>> No.21503429

>>21503404
wow I didn't even know it had a section
amazing

>> No.21503438

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a8BsheNCf8Q#t=36

>> No.21503442

>>21503179 oh no no no no no hes posting is typing speed test again like it means anything lmao

>> No.21503446

>>21503442
it's the retard again thinking it's a typing speed test when you get 30 seconds to type out 1 word
pathetic

>> No.21503448

>>21503446 do you have to type the answer in a certain time frame yes so it is a typing speed test

>> No.21503451

how many months has it been and quiztard can still only challenge ppl to kanji quizzes lol

should b a good enough indicator of how much progress ull make doing his idiot cards LOL

>> No.21503452

>>21503448
by that logic there is nothing without a time limit because the time limit on everything is ultimately your death dumb as shit

>> No.21503456

>>21503452 does your typing speed test test comprehension of nihongo no lol

>> No.21503457

>>21503429
Your fans used feedback.
http://users3.smartgb.com/g/g.php?a=s&i=g36-28922-76
My suggestion was deleted but yours is still there.
He ignores valid feedback and does stupid shit we don't need.
What a fucking prick, worst op maintainer yet.

>> No.21503461

careful hes gonna post some anime at u and ask u to transcribe or translate it or ask u some dumb question or w.e lol while never providing his own answer lol

>> No.21503467

>>21503448
>>21503461
are you still mad about the countless times I destroyed you lol

>> No.21503472

>>21503457
honestly if u use any thing in the "guide" or the "op" u deserve it

shit in is shit out

*preses post butan*

>> No.21503475

Anime cards are gay as fuck

>> No.21503476

>>21503467
hard to take u seriously with ur pink sock waggling back and forth like a dogs tail

>> No.21503477

>>21503467 i dont know who you think ur talking to but im not them maybe you should tell the jlpt guys they shud be using your typing speed test instead of their current ones lmao yes i have an n1 in typing speed LOL

>> No.21503485

>>21503457
All jokes and shitposting aside, please stop talking badly about itazura anon.
There is no justification for bad mouthing him. People often have conflicting interests and preferences, playing along to all that is an incredible effort.
He really is far more than we deserve. If you really feel strongly about something elaborate with some compelling arguments.

>> No.21503493

>>21502938
does anyone have the N3 deck of this series?

>> No.21503494

>>21503485
This.
If anything he fixed the site up recently.
Added a vn and retro game database too.

>> No.21503501
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21503501

Can't tell who's worse, AJATTers or these tripfag larpers

>> No.21503502

>>21503428
w「lint roller」はかっこいいって初めて聞いた
コロコロって聞くとコロコロ漫画しか浮かんでこない

>> No.21503505

>>21503485
He just needs to stop fucking up the site layout in retarded ways and refusing to accept any criticism when people try to tell him that he's just made it harder to use yet again with each revision.

Why can't he just use a nice, simple layout like the original? Why did convert half the site to Japanese when it's aimed at beginner learners making it so that now they keep coming here asking where shit is because they can't read コルヌコピア, and also because the sections he chooses to put stuff under is just baffling (Why is the CoR, full of Anki decks, in the fucking Library section? Are Anki decks books? Why are the Sakubi, Boiro, etc. grammar guides not located in the fucking Grammar Guides section?).

His design decisions are just utterly baffling and confusing and he refuses to accept any criticism about them just telling anyone who complains that they're mentally ill.

>> No.21503507

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sXNz75bdD9c#t=3

>> No.21503508

>>21503501
>Can't tell who's worse, AJATTers or these tripfag larpers
you. you're worse than all of them

>> No.21503524

>MIA one year, i know katakana but when i see it in the wild its weird, like i cant read it

https://youtu.be/0vnK8X6z8QQ?t=77

>> No.21503535

>>21503524
u know this is the vid thats gonna make me ask

whys that dude look like such a fuckin gooch lol

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21503537

Come on beginners, you ain't even on this punk-ass bitch's level

>> No.21503545

also looks like he tore all the kanji posters off the walls imagine that happened during his rage filled mental separation between him and mia lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7aA2JZz1p6Q

>> No.21503546

>>21503535
i honestly cant watch this video without wanting to shitpost everything he says in green

>> No.21503559

>>21503502
パラパラまんがならしってる

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>>21503508
Fuck off qm

>> No.21503581

Does anyone have the JP subs for Yuru camp? The ones from kitsunekko are Chinese for some reason despite being listed as jap

>> No.21503584

>>21503579
is that guy in bed this guy cuz that looks like his room lol

https://streamable.com/yg0wk

>> No.21503594

When you come across new vocab do you just look/listen? Or do you write it.out at all? I tend to write it once, then never again unless I forget when it comes up for review.

>> No.21503601

some new words i just start seeing everywhere others i forget em and who cares they prolly werent as important anyway : )

>> No.21503603

>>21503584
>https://streamable.com/yg0wk
>HTML and CSS
>programming
Wew

>> No.21503607

>>21503603
CSS3 is programming.
https://stackoverflow.com/questions/2497146/is-css-turing-complete

>> No.21503616

does anyone have a link to m**t's latest livestream?

>> No.21503621

Why are people here so obsessed with irrelevant little YouTubers? Like who gives a fuck about some need and their circlejerk.

>> No.21503669

>>21503621
People like meta japanese shitposting more than actual learning and they need something to fuel their shitposts so here we are

>> No.21503711

i just like to lol so thank god we have them as well as kids like qmac

>> No.21503798

i forgot to sleep so my reps are taking forever fuck

>> No.21503814

heres the only reps u need to do

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhXCzP5pbOk#t=64

>> No.21503868

i have a bad habit of reciting the definitions of nouns as verbs when doing reps e.g. for "応援" i'd think "to help/aid". am i fucked?

>> No.21503879

>>21503868
what do u mean

応援 is a noun

when u add する it becomes a verb

>> No.21503882

>>21503868
just add in する after any applicable noun and you're gucci

>> No.21503884

>>21503879
yea it's a noun but i think of it as a verb when repping, without する being there.

>> No.21503887

>>21503884
so remember the する thing and stop it ?

>> No.21503893

>>21503887
i'm trying

>> No.21503902

reason #69 flashtards permanently cripple ur nihongo

this guy >>21503868

>> No.21503915

>>21503868
I used to do that, after a while it went away and I started associating them with the object/action itself.
Just try to do it faster, don't read the definitions every time unless you messed up.

>> No.21503959

おうえんするときは

ファイトオーっていう

fightだとおもう

ほうげんかもしれない

>> No.21503961

>>21503868
>>21503902
Ignore jamal, he went full tard mode (even worse than QM) a while back.
It's prolly just another guy larping as him.

>> No.21503975

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gAs9HZC9c7Y#t=107

>> No.21503979

btw i go by geoff genki now

>> No.21503987

i have to rep my language clique

>> No.21503993

turns out the g in [1g] stood for genki this whole time

>> No.21503999

Now I know I'm gonna make it.

>> No.21504002

>>21503999
no its calvin mia u got it backwards like wearing thong underwear backwards

https://streamable.com/vapwh

>> No.21504009

yo this is my actual name and i think i'm gonna make it. i'll upload a video a couple years from now shouting out matt and djt for the help.

>> No.21504018

mia is a good acronym because they all just quit japanese one day and delete their social media lol

>> No.21504051

黒人音楽投稿禁止

>> No.21504062

>>21504051
I believe in you all

>> No.21504069

>>21504051
i agree with this

>> No.21504071

Damn I accidentally replied to that post

>> No.21504169

is there a list of all the mandatory readings for japanese pupils?

>> No.21504184

>>21504169
ook i read on reddit that theres no such a thing in japan

>> No.21504196

no idea. i just look up words.

>> No.21504200

>>21504002
wow that's fucking rude

>> No.21504206

>>21503868
j-j dictionaries fix this

>> No.21504214

>>21504184
japs struggle to read anything made before 1950
this is what happens when you have a retarded writing system

>> No.21504215

>>21504051
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZqjV7w9Sat8#t=49

>> No.21504386

>>21504214
>japs struggle to read anything made before 1950
japs do but advanced learners like matt and yoga don't.

>> No.21504419

yah cuz they just dont read lol

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Japs can't read old writings because they retardified their language because a*ericans asked them to

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21504462

>Jump through some hoops registering for a jap online shop that prefers an obscure proxy service for overseas customers
>The item you wanted to buy is out of stock
Aw dangit fuck you japan.

>> No.21504464

very insightful thx for the post

>> No.21504496

Picking up my RTK reps after 3 months
there's 900 so half of what I had learned
time to ganbatte through this shit

>> No.21504505

>>21504496
you're gonna make it bro

>> No.21504512

Do you think there is a professor somewhere who specializes in the research if hentaigana?

>> No.21504525

do u think theres a professor somewhere who specializes in the research of hentai ?

>> No.21504533

me

>> No.21504540

>>21504525
Me. True story last night I jacked it too hard and my penis swelled up massively about an hour after. It still hasn't gone back to normal yet.

>> No.21504559

>>21504540
i remember getting poison ivy and im particularly allergic to it so if i get even a bit of it ill have it all over me and that of course means on the good old balls and pecker and ill tell u jacking off with poison ivy to hentai was prolly the greatest feeling ive ever felt in my life

>> No.21504561

>>21504540
Some guy at my work place actually called in sick one day saying he jacked off too hard and broke his dick.

>> No.21504565

>>21504561
if i was ur boss or whoever taking that call id ask meekly "uh can i see it ?"

>> No.21504589

you can't learn japanese

>> No.21504605

>>21504386
yoga struggles to talk without sounding like a retard https://youtu.be/xcM9kCZt9o8?t=4394

>> No.21504617

>>21504605
passive understanding is always better than your ability to output and yoga hadn't really read or consumed japanese media for years when he spoke with nuke, let alone classical literature.

>> No.21504620

>>21504561
Fortunately I don't think it's broken. The swelling has been gradually reducing. I did panic at first though when I discovered the head was near double normal size while flaccid.

>> No.21504621

i liked this drunk defense the most

the funny thing is ppl are most honest when they are drunk lol

>> No.21504627

>>21504617
no thats just pretending to know japanese when u dont and just rationalizing it

its decoding at best and u havent actually acquired anything

>> No.21504637

Yoga is honestly pretty fucking shit at japanese compared to his claims and generally seems supremely dumb

in that debate with steve matt managed to impress me, he sounded much better than in that jikosyoukai video

>> No.21504639

>>21504627
wrong matt and yoga both read and listened enough that it'd be impossible for them to have to decode. you push 10k hours of eng subbed anime and they literally spent 4-5 years listening to japanese 8+ hours a day so they have definitely acquired it.

>> No.21504642

>>21504617
>let alone classical literature.
what does reading classical literature have to do with speaking without sounding like a retard and not having a 20:1 まあ ratio per word

>> No.21504646

>>21504561
I was kinda sad when this guy with the best ever excuse for a sick day, got fired. He walked out into the yard head bowed and just stood there, a delivery truck couldn't get past him and honked their horn but he just stood there looking at the ground.

He didn't get fired for calling in sick with a broken dick it was for other stuff later.

>> No.21504649

>>21504642
what does having acquired classical japanese have to do with outputting? good question. it doesn't, so bringing up his shitty output to cast doubt on his ability to consume native material is retarded.

>> No.21504653

>>21504649
>what does having acquired classical japanese have to do with outputting
a lot, actually

>> No.21504680

>>21504639
if its not comprehensible u dont acquire it ; )

>> No.21504689

>>21504680
How do you get comprehensible input at begginer level?

>> No.21504691

>>21504689
stop being new

>> No.21504701

>>21504689
Either go thru something like vncore so you have a base, or just pull thru looking up every word for a couple months if you're an ankiphobe

>> No.21504715

>>21504689
10000 hours of eng subbed anime : )

>> No.21504722

and sprinkle some of this in

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tNAcUlUGVnM#t=67

>> No.21504729

>>21504715
I've watched way more English subbed anime than that and don't know anything more than a few common phrases but I was never actively trying to listen to the words and understand what they were saying.

>> No.21504742

>>21504689
10000 hours passive listening and unsubbed anime

>> No.21504756

>>21504729
tis unfortunate but ur fucked likely forever

>>21504742
passivity is the way of the cuck

dont be a cuck lest u end up livin in the boku shed lol

>> No.21504770

cuck: 10000 hours eng subbed anime, doesn't learn any japanese
Chad: 10000 hours passive listening basically learning japanese effortlessly for free while doing rtk

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>>21502647
I'll be honest here, I feel pretty fucking sad since I started playing/watching/reading everything in japanese (JRPGs, anime, novels, VNs, other games). Taking DAYS to only read the beginning is killing me inside.

I miss the days where I could play shit in english, but right now I feel ashamed of myself everytime I break my rule of playing everything in japanese. It feels like I'm looking at myself with disgust.

>> No.21504791

the more eng subbed anime u watched the shorter that phase of being utterly fucked trying to read is

>> No.21504792
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21504792

Reminder that reading a light novel is the English equivalent of reading Tumblr fanfiction. Read you some real books.

>> No.21504805

don't read books read manga, hentai, eroge etc

>> No.21504813

>>21504756
Why would I be fucked at all let alone forever? You can't expect to learn much of anything if you are making no attempt to match any of the subs with the voice or even hear the words being spoken.

>> No.21504823

>>21504791
I mean, I'm noticing how I'm able to understand shit ton of expressions (esp. expressions but also some words), Shit that I didn't know I knew like ぜんげんてっかい or しょがない.

>> No.21504827

>>21504813
what i mean is i cant imagine being a 20 something and not knowing any japanese

ur prolly just actually doomed to be nukemarine so my personal suggestion is accept u missed ur window and do other things with ur life

nothing good gets made in japan anymore anyway

>> No.21504844

>>21504827
First off, nuke is cool and is gonna make it stop the hate.
Second, stop being such a rose tinted nostalgia loving boomer

>> No.21504881

>>21504827
I don't even know who that is. But from what I can see here you have no actual reason at all why I would be fucked?

>> No.21504882

>>21504823
< generic positive reinforcement and encouragement reply goes here >

>>21504844
i dont hate nuke chan but he is what he is and its important to use him as an example of what can happen if u spend extensive time not doing the right things

also nostalgia feels so good tho i dont wanna stop

思い出に浸るing every day is so much win

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zHNBT14jkRA#t=9

>> No.21504899

Is there no way to automatically fill in the english translation when exporting stuff from voracious to anki? Kinda loses the fucking point if I have to manually type in the english translation

>> No.21504903

https://streamable.com/6d5i8

>> No.21504906

>>21503029
i+1 format, that's it.

>> No.21504909

just complete ur memory shrine designed to cripple u forever

>> No.21504910

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VQuMbzt-GMw

>> No.21504913

>>21504910
the thumbnail made me lol

>> No.21504916

>>21504910
is he going to reset his starting time

>> No.21504922

>>21504910
lmfao

https://streamable.com/arx5l

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theres just so much to lol at with that dude hes really a pretty impressive megaclown i gotta say its actually just unreal like i thought calvin was the pinnacle of language community aids but no

>> No.21504939

>>21504899
Seems not looking at his github, so strange that this isn't a feature. The dictionary is right there, why wouldn't you be able to auto export the english like with yomichan

>> No.21504942

why is every1 who wants to learn japanese a fUCking weIRdo

>> No.21504951

He ain't no bitch when it comes to language learning

>> No.21504959

oops my last streamable link came out wrong this is what i wanted

https://streamable.com/iihbv

>> No.21504960

>>21504937
calvin is aids in an innocent beginner whose heart isn't really in it and doesn't know what he's doing kinda way. this dude is aids because he's just pure aids

>> No.21504962

>>21504951
ill bet u anything that dudes a sex tourist somethin isnt quite right with him

>> No.21504969

>tfw clipboard inserter just stop working on chrome
why you gotta be so ruuuuuuude

>> No.21504984

>>21504969
doesn't work for chrome on me either but thankfully firefox is a better browser.

>> No.21504998

>>21503084
N1 is hardly a form of mastery or a large knowledge of slang. N1 is basically "I know enough to work through any conversation that's not technical" and that's assuming you're not autistic and never actually practiced speaking, which seemingly happens to a lot of weebs.

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Now I don't have to use fucking animelon or voracious or anything. Based pot player even lets you set custom hotkeys so I can toggle the English subs independently of the Japanese ones.

>> No.21505082

On a more academic note, is there an optimal amount of new words to be learning a day? I've been sticking to ~20 (probably more from passive exposure but I have no way to count those) since that's what Anki seems to suggest, but I was wondering if anyone has studies or anecdotes suggesting something else.

>> No.21505134

On a more academic note, is there an optimal amount of new words to be learning a day? I've been sticking to ~20 (probably more from passive exposure but I have no way to count those) since that's what Anki seems to suggest, but I was wondering if anyone has studies or anecdotes suggesting something else.

>> No.21505143

Are there better J-E dictionaries for yomichan than JMdict? I just tried to use Kenkyusha, but it's a mess. Looking up "元気" gives me a book worth of sample sentences...

>> No.21505159

>>21505082
Like with everything depends on how much time you got. Optimum is the maximum you can do while still allocating a healthy majority of your time to input.

>> No.21505164

>>21505082
I do 24 per day because any more results in a review backlog that makes me want to kms. If you don't hate doing reviews you can up it.

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I don't know about you but I'm doing anime cards and I love reviews. Why aren't you doing anime cards?

>> No.21505180

>>21505168
I don't like anime.

>> No.21505181

>>21505180
What do you like?

>> No.21505191

>>21504792
>English equivalent of reading Tumblr fanfiction
Thank god, I haven't read any yet.

>> No.21505192

>>21505168
if I need to spend more than a single second to add a card to anki it's not worth it

>> No.21505193

>>21505181
little boys

>> No.21505197

>>21505168
someone please explain how animecards make reviewing fun. i pointed out that it's just a fucking picture with optional audio but no one seriously explained how a picture makes reviewing fun. will i just never get it?

>> No.21505202

>>21505197
The audio isn't optional. They are an integral part of the cart.

>> No.21505205

>>21505202
what i mean is that you said you only listen to the audio if you fail the card.

>> No.21505206

>>21505191
>taking anything on djt at face value

LNs are not high art, but they aren't nearly as bad as this anon makes out. If you are learning japanese to read literature you're learning the wrong language.

>> No.21505213

https://video.fluentcards.com/

reminder that this exists

>> No.21505217

>>21505205
When you see a new card and when you fail the card. For learning and relearning. That means you will listen to every audio at least once, it's critical for the initial priming as well as effective relearning.
Why don't you get that into your head? The audio is not optional.

>> No.21505231

What also isn't optional:
- The entire context in text on the card
- Being familiar with the context
- Understanding the context

I have linked the video 100 times now. Stop thinking you can leave everything out and still expect it to work for you. These cards are optimal as they are:
https://streamable.com/jyhp3

>> No.21505234

>>21505217
ok, the audio is not optional. that is not what i meant. what i meant is that you listen to the audio once when it's new and from then on only when you fail it. the majority of cards you do/review in anki are ones you will remember and pass. for those cards, having a mere picture does not seem more "fun" than just a vocab card.

perhaps a better way of phrasing it is that failures are less painful because you can enjoy an audio clip?

>> No.21505241

>>21505231
So it's literally just the core deck format with a picture added in?

>> No.21505250

>>21505234
>>perhaps a better way of phrasing it is that failures are less painful because you can enjoy an audio clip?
oh and this is tentative btw because listening to the audio clip has to be more enjoyable than the fact it's forcing you to spend more time in anki listening to something you've heard before.

>> No.21505256

>>21505241
d--delete this!!!!!!

>> No.21505259

>>21505234
1. This card format will lead to a higher amount of passed cards. Passed cards don't make Anki frustrating as they take a very short time. People who feel frustrated in Anki don't do so because they pass all their cards.
2. This card format will lead to a FAR lesser number of total lapses. Considering Anki's ease mechanics you will over a long period of time end up with less reviews than with any card format. This card format is suited for long term reviewing and will not be a burden even when you start getting over 20k cards.
3. Yes, it makes failed cards a lot more fun because you get to relive the anime moment you experienced before and it'll make you relearn the word very effectively. See 2.
No other card format has an as effective way to reteaching you failed cards as the anime card format.

>> No.21505266

>>21505259
>over 20k cards
Nigga if you need over 20k cards you have failed to learn Japanese, and also, holy SHIT the amount of time invested to make 20k anime cards

Laughing my FUCKING ass off

>> No.21505274

>>21505241
kek. This is literal perfection.

>> No.21505296

>>21505266
>Nigga if you need over 20k cards you have failed to learn Japanese
this was genuinely the dumbest comment ever, congratulations.
he knows more japanese than you retard, and he's only been studying for 2 years. there's virtually an unlimited amount of words to learn in this language and he chooses to keep learning them systematically.

>> No.21505308

>>21505259
>People who feel frustrated in Anki don't do so because they pass all their cards.
that's not true. anki takes me 5 minutes a day with 80-90% retention. the failures don't frustrate me. anki frustrates me. i'd rather not be using it.

>> No.21505311

>if you put any effort into learning this language holy SHIT you're stupid somehow!!! even though your 語彙力 is like 4x that of mine! i know it makes no sense i just call people stupid when they know more than me!

like how retarded do you have to be to tell yourself this.

>> No.21505322

>>21505308
80% retention is not high. even 90 means you're getting 1 card wrong every 10 cards.
and you're using it in a way thats boring and not engaging, that's his point

>> No.21505332

>>21505322
>80% retention is not high. even 90 means you're getting 1 card wrong every 10 cards.
1 failure in every 10 cards is fine. that doesn't feel bad. what feels bad is using anki period.
>thats boring and not engaging
listening to audio i've heard before in anki is not engaging. that just feels like more work. i would rather just listen to whatever i want to listen to which is typically going to be something novel. that's my point.

>> No.21505335

>>21505241
>>21505274
you guys should make a club called retards anonymous

>> No.21505339

>>21505332
>is not engaging. that just feels like more work.
or rather i should say that is more engaging in a way, but not in a good way.

>> No.21505342

>>21505311
>>21505322
>>21505335
If you aren't QM, you should kys. If you are QM and are samefagging this hard, same applies.

>> No.21505344

>>21505342
the dick sucking from his discord friends is so obnoxious.

>> No.21505345

>>21505332
>what feels bad is using anki period
cause you're doing it wrong. all anki does is show you shit. you can control what it shows you. if you hate being shown shit, period, no matter what it is, then perhaps you're autistic.

>> No.21505346

yuri yuri pretty good for people who suck at nihongo

>> No.21505353

>>21505296
Active vocabularies are around 10k, and passive ones are around 30-40k for the average adult. If your vocabulary has crossed that 10k mark you really are at the point where you don't need cards for things, because new stuff will be rare and you'll just learn via exposure alone.
Wasting your life making 20k+ anime cards is a massive waste of time.
>>21505311
Ah yes all those redditors who put "effort" into learning Japanese are all very fluent too
>>21505322
80-90% retention is like, exactly what you would want. Obviously higher is better, but this is about right.

>> No.21505355

>>21505345
>you can control what it shows you. if you hate being shown shit, period,
yea, of course? there are very few 5-15 seconds clips i want to listen to. now if anki showed me 30 minute anime episodes i could get on board, but that wouldn't very sensible.

>> No.21505357

>>21505342
>>21505344
you know what's more obnoxious? you idiots coming on here with completely meritless arguments sucking each other's dicks for your meaninglessness shitposts.

>> No.21505363

If I'm trying to say that it ended up becoming something and nothing else is this the right way to format it?
>この状態にしかなくなってしまったのです。

>> No.21505368

quiz is it absolutely necessary for the picture to be on the front of the card?

>> No.21505371

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rj_7z4KdJi0
Not even a minute in and pitch accent is important

>> No.21505379

>>21505368
only thing on the front is the word

>> No.21505381

>>21505353
>If your vocabulary has crossed that 10k mark you really are at the point where you don't need cards for things, because new stuff will be rare and you'll just learn via exposure alone.
this is not necessarily true at all. depending on what kind of media someone inputs, they might still encounter a significant amount of new words (5 to 10 every 500 words or so). someone like that could potentially keep learning from exposure, but it's understandable they'd want to continue doing so systematically if its still reaping benefits. my vocab is at least 12k now but i still encounter new things frequently enough for anki to be worth it for perhaps another year or so, and the stuff i watch isn't nearly as jargon-y as the shit QM does.

>> No.21505387

>>21505368
he doesn't put the pics on front, i do. do whichever works for you but personally i prefer mine on the front.

>> No.21505394

>>21505353
>yes all those redditors who put "effort" into learning Japanese are all very fluent too
their "effort" is in the form of shitty textbooks and RTK. how is that even comparable?

>> No.21505398

saitama: 暇だから
english translation: [Because] I was bored


I heard it guys I heard Japanese and understood it!

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Can someone that has access to Matt's patreon discord link his DoJG deck?

>> No.21505406

>>21504805
Nice try, unfortunately manga isn't reading.

>> No.21505414

>>21505406
Just because you don't take your adderall and only look at the pictures while reading kiddie manga doesn't mean everyone else does

>> No.21505425

>>21505405
he posts that deck for free because he says it's derivative of DJT's dojg deck. in fact he tweeted it within the past few months.

>> No.21505441

>>21504781
if you're still that much a beginner that 5 minutes of an anime takes you an hour, then such a rule is not useful and actually detrimental. comprehensible input is key, the more you can comprehend, the more you become able to input. forcing yourself to consume lots of input you can't comprehend is foolish. dedicate 2 hours or so to working through japanese input and then spend the rest of your time in english if you want. rules like the one you're attempting to follow only make sense once you know the equivalent of 2,000 sentences or more.

>> No.21505447

Anyone who says you are fine with 10k vocab is completely delusional. 10k active vocabulary is pretty much the absolute minimum that you need to be able to communicate properly. To enjoy just about anything you pick up and only rarely coming upon new stuff, so consuming equally to a native you will need at least a vocab of 30k.
So why the fuck would 20k cards be too much? You are stupid man. >>21505353

>> No.21505456

https://youtu.be/UQCLzn9Wqew?t=1387

lmao georgelads btfo

>> No.21505462

Is it smarter to have your new cards for each day be the cards you most recently mined? Right now I mine shit but by the time I get to it whatever context I had attached to it is gone. I guess the anime cards would solve that but I'm just too fuckin lazy

>> No.21505464

>>21505447
wait HOLD THE FUCK on then quiz didn't you say you rarely encounter new words in the media you consume yet you only have around 20k cards

>> No.21505474

>>21505447
once you have 10k words you can passively accumulate the rest of your vocabulary by reading. native english school students don't grind to 20k or 30k words by memorizing gigantic lists of words (unless they're cramming for the SAT or something). they accumulate their full adult vocabulary mostly by existing.

>> No.21505477

>>21505462
>Right now I mine shit but by the time I get to it whatever context I had attached to it is gone. I guess the anime cards would solve that but I'm just too fuckin lazy
you answered your own question.

>> No.21505478

>>21505456
actually thats just matt hella jealous hell never have the life george does

successful book series to teach multiple languages

japanese wife

laughs at ppl like matt all day

george is basically owning and matt is the sad wannabe

>> No.21505483

>>21505464
I don't know what I said in what context.
I got less than 20k cards. A total of about 17k but I've deleted about 1000 non anime cards from my old mining deck because I didn't really want to review them anymore.
I feel like I can enjoy just about anything mostly without lookups but I come upon new words frequently enough.
Of course it's fair to assume that my actual passive vocabulary is bigger than 17k, that's merely the amount of cards I have and I don't have a card for every word I know or can understand.

>>21505474
I'm not cramming word lists either. I am consuming Japanese and using my method to efficiently acquire a large amount of words multiple times faster and more efficiently than it would happen through pure consumption.
You simply don't know what you are talking about.

>> No.21505488

yeah but who has the better knowledge of japanese? matt has the ultimate moral victory that will stand the test of time. lmfao @ geoff suiciding on me

>> No.21505490

matt just says he does but he actually doesnt

thats why george can laugh at him all day and matt can only just sit there w. a sour look on his face

>> No.21505498

>>21505474
>native english school students don't grind to 20k or 30k words by memorizing gigantic lists of words
have you heard of 国語? they literally have reading and vocab tests, 5 hours a week. also 7 hours of courses of various topics taught entirely in japanese. also their entire 生活圏 is in japanese. so thats 12+ hours of comprehensible input a day for 15 years or more.

who of us here gets that much input?

>> No.21505499

https://streamable.com/6hm1z

ultimate moral victoly

>> No.21505500

geoff you better back the fuck off retard matt just laughs his ass off at george's dekinai ass all day

>> No.21505505

i mean dont get me wrong i do too

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VJ-WBkcS018#t=1158

but facts are facts george is owning in everything that matters and still knows more japanese than matt despite the above which is most cringe of all

>> No.21505508

it doesnt say what i can do tho

lmfao every time

>> No.21505509

>>21505499
i did not expect this hisatsuwaza....

yarareta....

>> No.21505511

https://streamable.com/dzug8

Man I finished watching LoGH weeks back but I can't stop thinking about it and all the good moments it has.

I fucking love Miller. What a great guy. What a moment.

This is the best show of all time it really is.

>> No.21505515

>>21505509
its ok i dont do fatalities

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=awVrU-cCKo8#t=36

>> No.21505516

>>21505498
my english classes stopped teaching me actual vocabulary once i graduated middle school.

>also their entire 生活圏 is in japanese. so thats 12+ hours of comprehensible input a day for 15 years or more.
well, yes. but nobody learns any new vocab when shooting the shit with their friends or talking with their parents or watching variety. actual sources of new words are either going to be literature or news and the average japanese person doesn't very much of that.

>> No.21505523

alexa remind me every day at 9am to never step to geoff

>> No.21505538

>>21505511
it doesn't count since it's based on a book

>> No.21505543

>>21505538
Which reminds me it might be worth reading the actual books.
The show is so good I just might.

>> No.21505556

does it get easier and easier to remember japanese names as you learn more words or are they forever random goobly gook shit?

>> No.21505557

>>21505483
>efficiently acquire a large amount of words multiple times faster and more efficiently than it would happen through pure consumption
But to what end, Quiz? You don't NEED to know most of the words you're taking in after the 10k, which was my point. You google something you don't recognize and then be done with it, as you should have enough synonyms lodged in your brain to make the permanent association. The only real exception I'd make is if the word uses kanji you don't recognize.

>>21505456
>Matt takes 25 minutes to say "Hey these guys aren't great maybe you should take their advice with a grain of salt
Sure wish he were less long winded

>> No.21505558

>>21505516
>>21505498
although i guess there's all sorts of japanese terms you go through just from learning shit in japanese - lord knows i have no idea what the terms for "antitrust law" or "impulse (physics)" or even "matrix multiplication" are in japanese because i've never taken civics, physics, or math in japanese. between the subjects of the japanese high school curricullum there's probably clean ten thousand words i've probably never bothered to learn. but then very little of the media i read requires me to know these terms, so it's irrelevant to me.

>> No.21505560

>>21505556
Yes and no. Some names use name-exclusive kanji, others use readings that literally don't exist for that kanji, while a few are just exactly the way they look.

Tofugu has a list of names by frequency that might help you out. I'm sure it can be acquired for free.

>> No.21505567

>>21505557
matt's autistic tendency to overexplain is what makes his cult like him so much because they feel more secure, thinking that it means he knows what he's talking about.

a lot of his cult are programmers funnily enough.

>> No.21505573

>>21505567
>a lot of his cult are programmers funnily enough.
a lot of japanese learners and weebs are programmers, funnily enough

>> No.21505580

>>21505557
Why do I not need to know them if I need to know them to comfortably consume any work of fiction aimed at Japanese native speakers, especially those aimed at well read adults?
Why would I throw out my entire methodology of efficiently expanding my passive vocabulary that fucking works and instead settle for googling things and just hoping I remember?
You are just speaking nonsense.

>> No.21505581

>>21505573
that's true, but less true when you look at places like reddit.

>> No.21505587

Asked my friend if his Japanese gf squeels like they do in jav and he said she screams bloody murder. His dick isn't huge by euro standards, what is going on here exactly?

>> No.21505588

>>21505580
damn quiz just BTFO SRS haters

>> No.21505592

>>21505580
>Why would I throw out my entire methodology of efficiently expanding my passive vocabulary that fucking works and instead settle for googling things and just hoping I remember?
do you do this with new english words you encounter or do you know, just, remember them

>> No.21505593

>>21505587
Japanese people aren't taught to be ashamed of having sex so they don't learn to stay silent while they fuck

>> No.21505595

>>21505587
>>21505593
i thought the classical stereotype of japanese women in bed was dead fish

>> No.21505596

>>21505587
just a different cultural expression of the biological phenomenon of female copulatory vocalizations which likely evolved to encourage men to compete to have sex with women. those vocalizations turn on men and back in the day would garner the attention of competing men in the area.

>> No.21505597

>>21505580
its ok dude when u get a bit older ull see the big picture

and no one cares about the methodology of some kid on the internet who started learning japanese 2 years ago and just watched logh

*picks up mic just to drop it*

>> No.21505598

>>21505595
You can be a dead fish while still screaming

>> No.21505600

>>21505558
>"antitrust law"
反トラスト法
anti trust law

>"impulse (physics)"
力積(りきせき)
積 is "product (mathematics)"

>"matrix multiplication"
行列の乗法
行列(ぎょうれつ) is rows+columns (行 is a horizontal row, 列 is a vertical column), so, matrix.
乗法 is multiplication, 乗(じょう) is the Chinese way to express the concept.

ez

>> No.21505603

>>21505595
they are. faking a whine/scream and pretending to orgasm by shaking your feet or some goofy shit doesn't mean you're an alive fish.

>> No.21505604

>>21505595
all u gotta do is westernize them a bit : )

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sXNz75bdD9c#t=3

>> No.21505607

>>21505600
i mean yes, i could have looked them up in about ten seconds, but without looking them up i wouldn't know that the word for trust in japan was トラスト, 力積 doesn't even exist in some japanese dictionaries, and i didn't know the word for matrix. the point is not that these words are mysterious and unknowable (i'm sure more than half the people in this thread know 行列 despite never having multiplied a 行列 in their lives), but i simply never encountered them due to infrequency of use.

>> No.21505612
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Why doesn't this mean something along the lines of
>I think there's meaning behind a first year student becoming a referee(in the anime's context "campaign manager")
Where does she say anything about being recommended?
t.89iq

>> No.21505619

>>21505612
推薦する is to recommend
You wouldn't really have "become" without "になる”

>> No.21505621

>>21505607
what I'm saying is that you can remember this stuff in the same amount of time it took you to write that post, because the words for these things are not composed in a difficult manner, so they are internalized instantly and forever. if anything 行列 is kind of a fresh look at the "matrix" concept, as far as naming goes!

>> No.21505623

>>21505592
I have a deck for both English and German words that I frequently utilize. I don't really encounter a large amount of words in the first place despite reading in the newspaper every day however. That's probably due to the languages being quite similar and there being a fair amount of overlap.
Learning Japanese is completely different. Not only do I lack the many years of interaction with it that I have with my other languages, I don't plan on taking the same amount of time to learn Japanese as I did to learn English. And from how it looks right now it seems I am in fact learning the language and expanding my vocabulary at an incredible pace completely unparalleled excluding the most noble of autists. The amount I can read and understand is continually constantly expanding every single day and that is partly thanks to my method.
I'm not saying you can't learn without Anki. I'm just saying you are handicapping yourself by not utilizing the best methods, will take many many years and will always be behind me.
You want me to put on the same shackles as you? https://streamable.com/j4rcz

>> No.21505628

>>21505619
But it says 推薦者にする, doesn't the 者 make it into a person, i.e. a recommender in that case?
But yeah になる would make a lot more sense.

>> No.21505629

>>21505587
japanese women seem to be conditioned to think the more noise they make the more pleased the guy they're fucking will be. it's very annoying however. perhaps not to japanese men? i've never heard a japanese guys perspective on this.

>> No.21505630

>>21505612
that subs just real bad u can google that line to gain context

>> No.21505640

>>21505612
you can 訓読 this 推薦者 into 推薦する者(もの)
and it means that for the same reason 勝者(しょうしゃ) means victor and not someone who has been defeated

>> No.21505644

>>21505621
i mean i'll remember them ~now~, since we've spent a few minutes talking about them. just saying they're a small sample from a large universe of words.

>>21505623
>I'm just saying you are handicapping yourself by not utilizing the best methods
i don't do flashcards because i don't like them. i would rather read and use the occasional lookup for a technical term because i find it more enjoyable on a day-to-day basis. the fact that you're willing to dedicate time to creating cards and reviewing cards is great! experts generally agree that in everything from piano to art, "active learning" is faster than "passive learning." however, i greatly enjoy passive learning, and don't very much enjoy active learning methods, so i'm going to keep doing that. you do you. be sure to send postcards.

>> No.21505649

>>21505623
Look, Quiz, we're not saying your anime cards are utterly worthless. Personally, I think they're way too much effort to make for the return, but I know different people learn differently and they are pretty amazing for someone who learns well from audio.
The thing is, you're handicapping yourself now by sticking to it. You have the foundations of the language. Unless you desperately want to retain every single word you ever see, or pass the kanken1, I really don't think it's a good use of your time to keep making them and doing SRS.
By all means, keep doing your thing. I don't disagree that it works, and you will get better if you stick to it. It's just not the most efficient thing anymore.

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>>21505640
Thanks!

>> No.21505656

>>21505649
He's German, they can't do anything without wanting to do it systematically. It runs in the blood.

>> No.21505662

>>21505649
lol savage destruction telling him he has the foundations while trying to persuade him to drop the training wheels and causing him to erupt in inner conflict between his posting persona and his personal reality thats the shit i do like

>> No.21505663

i do passive learning when i read manga and play videogames etc, anime cards for anime (still capping at 30 cards a day, then whatever other anime i watch that day becomes passive learning).
before i was doing passive for everything and looking back it was very inefficient and relatively unproductive (like significantly so... talking vocab gains of like 3 words per day vs 30). i much prefer one steady, reliable incoming stream of active learning, with other streams of passive stuff on the side.

>> No.21505670

watching anime > making anime card anki reviews

>> No.21505673

>>21505663
imagining this post but explaining sex instead

>> No.21505689

>>21505670
Yes you make cards while watching anime. You confused about something? I thought everyone knew this.

>> No.21505693

i think a lot of people here are just annoyed that QM knows so much more than them and puts in more effort than they ever had the discipline or drive to. now the best you can do is try to discourage him from continuing so you can feel better about your own low effort and lack of ability. imagine that.

he's only been learning 2 years and you want him to stop putting effort in (because he's too far ahead of you?). no it's not inefficient for him to keep doing anime cards which he clearly enjoys doing. what's inefficient is crippling himself by no longer trying so he can be an eternal dekinai like guys like jamal pretending they understand all the secrets of nihongo with only a 10k vocab.

>> No.21505694
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imagine lying through your teeth so hard that as somebody under the age of 30 you say that you read the newspaper (significantly enough that you could in theory new learn words from doing so) every day

>> No.21505696

>>21505693
at this point im convinced you would literally suck this dude off if you ever met him. what the fuck is your issue

>> No.21505697

like why can't you people just let others prosper without trying to bring them down or subtly discourage them? oh yeah because your jealousy takes over and starts making you say idiotic things.

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>>21505693

>> No.21505702

>>21505693
people are annoyed because he's like a telemarketer who calls you every single day.

the fact that he's doing better than jamal is not an achievement because jamal is a dedicated shitposter and general retard.

>> No.21505710

>>21505702
>people are annoyed because he's like a telemarketer who calls you every single day.
but before he came you guys were posting the same retarded shit every day that didn't even help anyone or have merit? so why is it not until now that you're upset?

>> No.21505711

qm's fake anime cards turn you into a narcissistic minor eceleb with time management problems and compulsive dishonesty issues, even if they're better than vocab cards (which are obviously already fine) are they really worth the cost? I say no

>> No.21505712

ok guys its my turn to ragequit the thread

u guys are being too mean to me and so ive decided im going to leave u all alone with ur new favorite boy

this is my last post and heres the trip if ne1 else wants it to make funny posts impersonating me geoff genki#1cedupb1ade5

*picks up mic again just to drop it*

>> No.21505715

>>21505710
>but before he came you guys were posting the same retarded shit
people did that even after he came. these threads only slightly recovered because someone who made literally 1/2 of the posts in these threads - every single one of them a complete shitpost - was banned.

>so why is it not until now that you're upset?
people have been "upset" about retards in this thread for years.

>> No.21505716

idk quizmaster is fun as hell, especially with the way he habitually makes everyone's anal cavities implode for some reason. to everyone: why don't you play a quiz with qm if you think you're so good? the quiz cannot perhaps demonstrate that you're good, but it will easily demonstrate that you're bad.

>> No.21505722

>>21505715
>every single one of them a complete shitpost - was banned.
huh? who are you talking about?

>> No.21505723

>>21505693
I'm not annoyed and have no problem admitting Quizzard is better than me. Why do you think anyone criticizing him is insecure?

>> No.21505726

DJT before quizmaster: SHIT FUCK RETARD AUTISM RTK HAHAHA FUCK YOU READ MORE WHERE CAN I DOWNLOAD VN'S
quizmaster: *shares actually helpful methods while being mildly assholish in the process but nowhere near as bad as others*
DJT: wow this guy is so annoying and rude to people who does he think he is

>> No.21505727

>>21505712
good riddance

>> No.21505729

>>21505722
i quit the threads for a month and later looked back and saw some archived threads where almost 50% of the posts had been deleted, so i assumed that someone had been banned.

>>21505726
the fact that he's an insufferable shit and attracts insufferable shits like you goes a long way towards nobody liking him.

>> No.21505730

>>21505694
I read at least one article pretty much every day. Obviously I do it digitally not on an actual paper newspaper, I enjoy it and it's the only real reading input I get outside of Japanese. You seem to have a couple problems yourself, everything that somebody else does better than you is a lie or what? It's such a pathetic post. Instead of accusing people of lying work on yourself.

>> No.21505731

stop phone-samefagging and get back to your coursework

>> No.21505736

>>21503999
Hi calvin how are you doing are you gonna play the new samurai spirits when it comes out?
How do you feel about your new competition >>21503524

>>21504805
>>21505414
>>21505663
That's nice and all but manga is not reading.

>> No.21505742

>>21505726
>>21505729
see, the thing is, most of the insufferable shits in this thread know they are insufferable shits. they're still complete retards who would ideally be hanged, but they don't pretend not to be. quizmaster thinks he's god's gift to this thread and attracts a following of sycophants who say the same thing. in that way he's just as shit as jamal and far ahead of all the other common retards.

>> No.21505747

>>21505729
>calling everyone who btfo me "insufferable" helps me feel better

>> No.21505748

>>21505742
no, some people are just good and they're near you. get over it

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>>21505730
imagine lying not only to djt but yourself about something so pointless and trivial and nerdy. for what purpose. there is nothing to gain. nobody under 30 or so actually reads "newspaper" articles daily anymore, least of all someone with as many things to do as you.

>> No.21505752

>>21505747
>>21505748
congratulations on illustrating my point perfectly

>> No.21505759

>>21505742
>most of the insufferable shits in this thread know they are insufferable shits
yourself included?
>quizmaster thinks he's god's gift to this thread
more of a gift than you retards/dekinais

>> No.21505760

>>21505752
the point that you have a sad worldview? sure

>> No.21505764

wow so surprising that someone who bases their entire identity around learning a fucking language is a complete retard. who could have seen that coming

>> No.21505765

>>21505693
>i think a lot of people here are just annoyed that QM knows so much more than them and puts in more effort than they ever had the discipline or drive to
i don't think this makes any sense. there are probably a lot of people who have posted in these threads over the years who have been better than everyone else in the thread and i think everyone understands that people differ in skill on a given task. i think you're just posting this to get you's and it's working well.

>> No.21505766

>>21505759
he's one part decent advice to nine parts attention whoring and forty parts shitposting. he even openly declared in the past that he no longer cared about this thread and would from now on dedicate himself to shitting it up just like jamal.

>>21505760
nothing could possibly be sadder than sucking the dick of a general thread attention whore.

>> No.21505767

>>21505749
I mainly read the articles for the comment sections. The newspaper I read is https://www.welt.de/
On every article you can see conservatives and quasi alt ringers call out everything wrong with the article and wrong and it's honestly enjoyable to read.
It's not a lie. It's just a little thing I do when I have downtime standing with my phone somewhere or when waking up or brushing my teeth or whatever.
What a pointless thing to be accuse someone of lying about however.

>> No.21505774

>>21505766
>nothing could possibly be sadder than sucking the dick of a general thread attention whore.
yeah, I knew an autist who completely unironically called all acts of benevolence except for very rare exceptions, "dick sucking", on which he looked with 100% disdain. it was a sad life for him.

>> No.21505776

>>21505405
>>21505425
How exactly does this deck differ from the DJT version?

>> No.21505777

>>21505774
>acts of benevolence
jesus fucking christ

>> No.21505778

>>21505767
I'm saying it's four days a week tops, usually two or three, nowhere near enough up call it every day

>> No.21505780

>>21505765
>there are probably a lot of people who have posted in these threads over the years who have been better than everyone else in the thread
but did they
1. demonstrate that ability?
2. challenge others to demonstrate their own ability?
3. have something to offer as far as learning techniques?

>> No.21505781

>>21505778
seek help

>> No.21505784

i read at least three english articles a day because my primary non-japanese hobby is arguing with people on the internet and part of that is finding sources to beat other people over the head with

i certainly wouldn't read that many japanese articles per day every day but claiming that it's difficult to do this in your native language is retarded and i can't believe anyone is arguing about it

>> No.21505787

>>21505766
>he's one part decent advice to nine parts attention whoring and forty parts shitposting
there's no way he shitposts or attention whores even half as much as you guys. quit projecting.
>nothing could possibly be sadder than sucking the dick of a general thread attention whore.
yuh huh. getting mad at people for being better than you at something is infinitely sadder than giving props to people for being good at something.

>> No.21505790

>>21505777
that guy's preferred mode of interaction with people was to aggressively verbally attack them, which he considered "being real" and "not sucking someone's dick". so he had 0 friends and 0 social stature and was poor in a first world country. ftw

>> No.21505791

is the qm dicksucker just 1 guy? or are there multiple?

>> No.21505793

>>21505693
Still waiting on that 自己紹介 video, Quiz-kun.

>> No.21505797

>>21505793
i'm... not quizmaster retard lol.

>> No.21505801

>>21505787
>there's no way he shitposts or attention whores even half as much as you guys. quit projecting.
there's far more than two people in this thread other than him, so assuming that everybody shitposts and attention whores at the same rate, that's expected. there's 50+ people in this thread. if every single one of them shitposted and attention whored as much as he did there wouldn't be any thread left.

>than giving props to people for being good at something.
every single one of your posts was primarily directed at shitting at the people on this thread. giving him props was, at best, incidental. in fact, multiple people - even those who disagreed with him - gave him props for his method earlier in this thread and ~nobody cared~. if you'd actually just made a post doing that everyone would have moved on from it ages ago.

>> No.21505805

>>21505797
a likely story

>> No.21505808

>>21505784
he said news paper which is very different from random articles you find on google
btw if you can't read the news in Japanese you don't have a place talking about the learning process here

>> No.21505811

>>21505791
It's safe to assume there are a few, but you know the one calling everyone a "dekinai" is one dude.

>> No.21505813

>>21505801
stop taking qm's bait lol you have better shit to do, like dig up the worst parts of reddit or vndb

>> No.21505820

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Last one I've listened to is this one. https://streamable.com/ra123 I really get great enjoyment out of these.
https://mega.nz/#!gZlDkSII!TB7XNTwSvGnSdp6_a0DRxR_WobMXIi1UEXjyzC_1XUA

>> No.21505821

>>21505808
>he said news paper which is very different from random articles you find on google
a lot of it comes from internet news magazines like the atlantic. sometimes it's articles that people link for the purpose of some argument or another. the subject matter and content is largely the same.

>btw if you can't read the news in Japanese
i can read my native language at least five times faster than i can read japanese. the only news i would read in japanese is news that is specifically relevant to japan and that i care about, which is limited to the occasional anime controversy.

>> No.21505824

>>21505797
Let's give you the benefit of the doubt.

>he's only been learning 2 years
He makes fun of and insults people who have only been learning for a few months. He also makes fun of and insults people like BritvsJapan based on where they were at the two year mark and claims he's better than them, yet curiously he always pussies out when challenged to provide any showcasing of his own ability.

He has a YouTube account. He owns a mic. If he doesn't want to post on YouTube, there's Vocaroo and other platforms. Yet he refuses to give any demonstration of his abilities. Why?

>> No.21505837

>>21505780
>2. challenge others to demonstrate their own ability?
i think you've nailed the problem people have with quiz. it's obnoxious. notice that nobody respects matt just because he's good, because he's an asshole. likewise with quiz. if it were a friendly "hey guys wanna play this quiz" then people wouldn't care.

>> No.21505839

>>21505824
>yet curiously he always pussies out when challenged to provide any showcasing of his own ability.
this is the one thing he doesn't do. he'll do vocab heads-to-heads with anyone who asks. he's an annoying shit but credit where credit is due.

i never once understood the fetish people had for reading shit out loud in these threads. as a test of japanese knowledge it's one of the complete fucking worst. i could sing in japanese when i was eleven and didn't know a fucking word because i could memorize the romaji. almost ANY other test of language knowledge was better.

>> No.21505846

>>21505824
>He makes fun of and insults people who have only been learning for a few months. He also makes fun of and insults people like BritvsJapan based on where they were at the two year mark
oh no, how dare he. and on 4chan of all places...

>> No.21505850

if you can't have a conversation in Japanese, speaking, then you don't know Japanese, no matter how many Scrabble words you know how to read or how many anime you've watched with subs

>> No.21505851

>>21505837
Haha I only do that when somebody talks shit to me. You want a post like that? Whoops already done:
>>21500738

>> No.21505858

>>21505851
>You want a post like that?
well no, because it can't recant your obnoxious behavior.

>> No.21505859
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>>21505821
as a complete aside to the argument, i compared reading this japanese ingredients list with an english wrapper i had in front of me. it took me around thirty seconds to read the full list of japanese ingredients and less than five seconds to finish reading the english one. maybe that's insanely slow for all the genuine nihongo masters in this thread but right now for me if my primary goal is to get new information, news in my native language >>>> anything else

>> No.21505865

>>21505774
>I knew an autist who completely unironically called all acts of benevolence except for very rare exceptions, "dick sucking", on which he looked with 100% disdain.

Regardless of your particular point, this is pretty representative of the inherent contrarianism on 4chan if someone identifies themselves.

It's not a universal case, but no matter how correct/incorrect/helpful/unhelpful you are, identifying yourself makes you a tall poppy with a history, so not only everyone will put in extra time/effort to make an example of you, but you'll also have a precedent and verifiable examples of less-than-stellar posts.

I think as a rule of thumb, trolls will not identify themselves unless they are intentionally trying to piss off others by tripfagging. So those who do identifies usually have (relatively) well-meaning intentions, even if it turns out to not result in quality posting.

>> No.21505881

not confused, just saying: if you watch anime without doing cards, it's even more fun

>> No.21505886

ロツク

the fuck this supposed to mean?

>> No.21505887

>>21505689

not confused, just saying: if you watch anime without doing cards, it's even more fun

>> No.21505891

what are your other hobbies aside from nihongo?

I like cooking, biking and watching MMA and competitive CSGO.

>> No.21505893

>>21505858
I 100% adapt to my environment
I don't dance out of line
when somebody flings shit at me I fling shit back
I don't want to put all responsibility off my shoulders because it does always take two
but if you know about my past with DJT you'd know that for a long time I actually tried to get more moderation in here and raise posting standard
all my efforts were of course spit on by the super ironic shitposters like jamal and supporters
and then I've stopped caring, you guys are no good no matter how much you pretend you are now that I've decided to play my own game with the thread

>> No.21505899

>>21505886
ロック

Never mind, the game has a shitty font that makes it hard to differentiate the small kanas.

>> No.21505902

but wtf quizzie i never said i was good i just like posting here

>> No.21505909

ask me how it feels to be the ichiban of this sure.

>> No.21505910

>>21505893
>I've decided to play my own game with the thread
IE, you're a dedicated shitposter, as you've admitted countless times in the past. Glad you're always ready to keep everyone up to date on what you're doing at all time.s

>> No.21505928

>>21505891
browsing reddit and ajatt/mia videos. if i left my house i'd probably go to the gym and take daily walks but none of it is interesting anyway. it would ultimately be to make me more appealing to women

>> No.21505930

>>21505693
u idiot he never posting himself read in realtime. nobody knows how good he is

>> No.21505934

linux animecard bros, what are you using for quick audio recording and pasting?

>> No.21505935

>>21505930
"reading in realtime" is an absolute retard test that i'm certain that only jamal could have possibly come up with because it's infinitely gameable and tests nothing.

>> No.21505939

>>21505935
wtf are you doing in this thread if you know nothing lmao check your privilege next time before spewing nonsense my tomogaki

>> No.21505943

>>21505619
>>21505640
ゲイのクラブを推薦してください。

>> No.21505967

>>21505934
also want to know. I think it's possible to write an addon for mpv for automatic flashcard creation based on subtitle timings.

>> No.21505971

>>21505967
someone already did that

>> No.21505989

>>21503018
can some one red pill me on MASSIVE ANIME CARDS? Do you basically watch anime and mine yourself by ear. Or do you use some tool chain?

>> No.21505992

>>21505989
it's basically the best method bla bla bla I'm kind of tired of explaining it to be honest man just watch anime

>> No.21506008

>>21505989
they're the best thing ever and way better than sentence card

i know because quiz mocks people who did sentence cards and claims to be better than them even though he refuses to provide any examples of himself actually using the language so we can compare and see for ourselves

>> No.21506038

i miss jamal

>> No.21506042

the thing with jamal is that no matter what you tell the guy it just rolls off his back. as a result there weren't as many prolonged shit-flinging contests like we have daily with qm & posse.

>> No.21506051

>>21506038
Quizmaster killed Jamal. Jamal died slowly, in agony. His undead corpse is known as Geoff Genki.

>> No.21506056

>>21505776
I believe it has more cards and it has significantly nicer CSS

>> No.21506067

If you retards would just ignore him he'd probably get bored and go away, but instead you guys contribute to the shitposting and now 75% of the posts are related to quiztard. Sasuga djt

>> No.21506078

>>21506067
"Sasuga" is not used sarcastically in Japanese.

>> No.21506092

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IPMxMR1vAVE
based

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>>21505776
The DJT deck groups all sentences for each grammar point onto one card.

Matt's deck splits all of those sentences into individual cards. Above the line is the front of the card. You can sort those cards with morphman so you can do n+1 sentences.

https://files.catbox.moe/n3j0ch.apkg

>> No.21506112

To be fair, Quizmaster really is uncharacteristically elusive on one thing, and that is his ability to speak Japanese. He does vocab recognition battles easily but evidently he can't speak the language without embarrassing himself just yet. It would take just one well-writen post for him to slay his haters forever, but alas.

I must ask only this: who among the haters can slay Quizmaster ahead of when he might do it? because that is the question.

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oof I can understand this. I know this is simple Japanese but I've been wanting to play this game since it came out and now I can, thanks djt

>> No.21506116

>>21506067
>now 75% of the posts are related to quiztard
you don't remember when djt was 100% quiz?

>> No.21506122

>>21506113
I still gotta finish Summer Pockets. It's kind of weak as a Key VN. I wish 2nd Beat would come out.

>> No.21506125

>>21506008
>e refuses to provide any examples of himself actually using the language so we can compare and see for ourselves
Didn't he once recently post something on /int/'s /djt/ thread that a Japanese anon laughed at by calling him a "超童帝様"?

>> No.21506127

>>21506113
that game fuckin sucks bro

>> No.21506133

>>21506092
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iJId_QvZeQw#t=48

>>21506113
nice i read that entire thing the day it came out and while it had some nice things to say and ended up better than i expected there was nothing particularly memorable or good about it well besides wenders chan ftw

>>21506122
2nd beat is never coming key is dead doomed to peter out slowly trying to peddle nostalgia for the few good titles

>> No.21506143

>>21506125
>童帝
童貞

>> No.21506152

>>21506113
She suddenly appeared to me so I felt unstable?

>> No.21506154

>>21505406
kys

>> No.21506166

>>21504002
What is the context of this? George-san would never be that mean.

>> No.21506171

>>21506152
no see its saying hes actually the sudden appearer and shes the 1 feelin some hella fuan

>> No.21506172

>George-san would never be that mean.
been sleeping under a rock for a few months eh?

>> No.21506176

>>21505992
ok np, didn't realize it was just a meme. I'm already watching anime, I'm just not mining, because I can't be bothered to stop all this compelling content to create decks. The only thing I do from time to time is, look up stuff on my cell phone dictionary.

>> No.21506177

>>21506171
i see

>> No.21506181

>>21506176
all you need to know is it's the same as britvsjapan's sentence bank method but you gotta make all the cards yourself

>> No.21506187

>>21506176
you basically make these cool cards
https://streamable.com/jyhp3
it has a million advantages over everything else but I'm tired of explaining it there is a short guide on how to do them on the itazura page if you feel up to it

>> No.21506191

>>21506125
Text content isn't very useful for gauging level anyway since you don't know how long the person spent typing the message, whether they used Google, a grammar guide or a dictionary to help them, or if they asked a native friend to check and correct it for them.

The best way to tell whether or not someone is really as good as they claim is to hear them speaking naturally without a script, e.g. like Matt and Steve did in their video together, or like Yoga and Nuke did in their video together.

>> No.21506197

>>21506152
everything before 俺 is describing 俺. you get used to it.

>> No.21506199

>>21506133
>2nd beat is never coming
;_;
I know it's never coming but why you say it straight out like that?

>> No.21506200

>>21506172
What did George-san do? I haven't watched one of his livestreams in ages.

>> No.21506202

>>21506166
george hates ajatt and mia so he's OK with making fun of them

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>>21506181
>>21506187
Ok I understand thanks guys. I get it, that it's a really helpful thing. But I'm personally way to lazy to do this. I prefer just watching and translating on the fly. It's less effective, but way more comfy.

>> No.21506207

>>21506191
And if a person dodges and avoids all requests to show an example of them speaking, well, that tells all you need to know.

>> No.21506209

>>21506191
I don't think much of all that shit honestly. How good do you think my English is?
I got a near full score C2 and have no problem communicating in English, but my accent sucks ass and I sperg out when talking so you might be fooled into thinking I know a lot less English that I actually do. Speaking is ultimately something that has to be practiced and I don't really care to practice it. The only use I'd have for it is showing what I know to dumbasses like you. I've never talked to a Japanese person in my life and it doesn't seem like that'll change anytime soon. I learn Japanese to consume and read shit. That's all.

>> No.21506211

>>21506199
cuz if u just accept the worst now its even more weird and cool if the unexpected happens

>> No.21506224

And I promise you I doubt there is more than a handful people who after 2 years of learning understand a similar amount as me.
I don't need your approval though. Who the fuck are you anyway?
Some e-celeb dicksucking loser on a fucking anonymous image board. I really got other shit to do than care about your approval lol.

>> No.21506228

みなQMの日本語より良い日本語を投稿してみよう
僕がこれで始める

アニメカードは神
神だから信じざるものに救いなし
それは実に二択で簡単なものだ。以下に示す。

1.アニメカードをやって、達者になる。
2.アニメカードをやらないで何か別の効率のクソな勉強の””””””方法””””””を使って自分を永遠に不自由にする。

お前らが選ぶんだぞ!

>> No.21506229

stfu quiztard

>> No.21506233

>I don't need your approval though. Who the fuck are you anyway?
this is the quizbro i like

>> No.21506236

>>21506228
長すぎ読んでない

しかもわたしはゲイ

>> No.21506239

>>21506209
>The only use I'd have for it is showing what I know to dumbasses like you.
You seem to care an awful lot about how you're perceived here, so that seems like it would be worth your time.

It appears you acknowledge that you're shit at speaking and would only embarrass yourself by posting something though, so don't you think you ought to stop making fun of other people who actually have the balls to put themselves out there and quit acting like you're superior to them when even you clearly know that you're not?

>> No.21506245

heres how u know quiztard is still bad

he still does cards lmao

>> No.21506246

>>21506236
ご愁傷さまっすね

>> No.21506249

>>21506245
jamal i thought u quit

>> No.21506251

delete your anki deck

>> No.21506255

He just took off his trip lmao.

>>21506239
There is a million reasons to make fun of all the cultists besides them being shit at Japanese which they are.

>> No.21506256

>>21506249
? im not jamal

>> No.21506266

>>21506245
doing cards is a choice, reeree

>> No.21506268

>>21506266
just like being good or being bad is also a choice

also dont sign ur posts

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>study japanese for years
>can't get raws for a lot of manga and have to resort to scanlations anyway
Just what was the point?

>> No.21506275

>>21506255
And yet you make fun of their Japanese when yours is either on the same level or worse, as evidenced by your repeated refusal to post a clip of yourself speaking.

And why are you still replying to me? I thought you didn't care about my approval? Didn't you literally just say you had better things to do? Could it be that you actually do care what people here say about you?

>> No.21506277

>>21506207
>And if a person dodges and avoids all requests to show an example of them speaking
irrelevant af to comprehension ability though. why tf would someone practice speaking when they only care about understanding? and this is coming from someone who can speak

>> No.21506278

>>21506224
>I don't need your approval though.
You're lying through your fucking teeth. Approval and validation is the only thing you care about deep down.

>> No.21506279

not gonna lie filtering quiz made the threads at least 69 times better lol

>> No.21506281

>>21506269
sucks to be a retard that spends years studying a language to read childrens comic books

>> No.21506282

>>21506269
get a job so you can purchase the volumes

>> No.21506283

unfortunately for noobs n haters ajatt is a flawless method
there cannot be a flaw with a method that says get as much input as possible every second of your life while incorporating highly efficient tools like rtk and anki

>> No.21506286

>>21506281
name 1 good medium japan tells stories through then, genius

>> No.21506290

its true ajatt is flawless in keeping all the scrubs from learning MY nihongo

>> No.21506292

theres no way you can do ajatt and not learn ninhong

>> No.21506294

>>21506286
there is none

>> No.21506296

>>21506283
wtf now you decide to stick up for ajatt when i've been the sole defender in this thread for a year?

>> No.21506299

>>21506279
I doubt it what part of the thread isn't total shit

>> No.21506307

ajatts really good its just the people who do it that are bad

>> No.21506308

>>21506283
RTK is highly inefficient you mean
as is their Anki usage
and getting input is good but calling it immersion and making it a cult is gay
so AJATT sucks ass
just accept it already

>> No.21506309

how do i get quizmaster to tutor me?

>> No.21506310

>>21506296
huh? i always have nice things to say about khatz and ajatt

>> No.21506312

DJT:

1. cannot beat Quizmaster in a vocab quiz
2. cannot beat Quizmaster in active Japanese skills
3. cannot beat Quizmaster in passive Japanese skills
4. cannot learn Japanese better than Quizmaster
5. cannot match Quizmaster in the magnitude of his personality and benevolence

Is there anything DJT -can- do?

>> No.21506313

>>21506308
>and getting input is good but calling it immersion and making it a cult is gay
yep you and your russian brother rarepotato65 at least agree on this much

>> No.21506323

>>21506308
sorry yoga already debunked your anki cards and proved ajatt sentence cards are the most effective way to use anki

>> No.21506325

i cant imagine listening to japanese shit instead of my usual podcast and music rotation when i'm doing cardio or on my commute. i kinda admire people who want it that bad.

>> No.21506331

>>21506312
when someone has to brag about being the best out of these people:
https://www.strawpoll.me/18087847/
it makes them seem like human garbage. it's actually worse than matt's "hating on" series which at least he apologized for.

>> No.21506334

anyone got the links for the hating on series

>> No.21506336

>>21506325
it'd be easy as fuck listening to japanese if you have to do menial shit like that every day. i respect my fellow NEETs who can stand listening to any japanese at any point in the day period, especially for hours.

>> No.21506339

>>21506334
>>21505456
that's all he had up on patreon via yiffparty

>> No.21506342

>>21506331
That is called benevolence. QM is willing to help all of those people and being visibly better at them is the only way it might get into their thick skulls.

>> No.21506348

>>21506342
this is patently false considering the vitriol spewed his way lol

>> No.21506350

>>21506336
idk man there are so many other things I'm interested in that i can easily learn about through audio, im not willing to sacrifice that.

>> No.21506362

>>21506348
The first stage is just going to be like that. People who have spent years of their life in error cannot be expected to give up their self-inflicted torture without a fight.

>> No.21506367

qmac never helped anyone specifically with anything japanese

or maybe we could take this moment to post questions about something in japanese that we need our strongest nihongologists input on here ill start

パンはパンでも食べられないパンはなに ?

>> No.21506380

naruhodo

>> No.21506385

>>21506367
this is very true, qm almost never comments on actual question posts

>> No.21506396

>>21506367
Hey that's my line lol

>> No.21506398

>>21506325
I cut out any and all entertainment that's not Japanese language.

I expect to keep this up for at least another year and a half.

>> No.21506406

>>21506398
that's very impressive to me not even memeing. hope its worth it for you when you get where u wanna be

>> No.21506408

sorry cant hear u over the sound of u being filtered qmac ur gonna have to change ur username

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nukemarine is our guy

>> No.21506413

>>21506406
It's a pretty easy thing honestly, sure it locks me out of some content that just is not available in Japanese, but overall it's not particularly hard to keep up.

The results are pretty good as well and I've only been doing it for 9 months so far.

>> No.21506420

>>21506411
lol nuke chan owning on reddit ftw

>> No.21506421

>>21506411
That guy he's arguing with will never learn a single language except his native one in his life lol.

>> No.21506427

>>21506411
>it should be a small percentage of your "studying"
based

>> No.21506428

>>21506411
fuck bros i've backed up nuke a lot but this kind of posting is exactly why he has his reputation. close the browser and immerse bro, don't engage with them.

>> No.21506429

>>21506411
goddamn that first comment is dripping with more arrogance and condescension than most posts here

>> No.21506448

I mean I think all these AJATTers are dumb as shit
because they seem to be under the impression after watching a bit of Anime
they can just put on Japanese music or the news on loop for 18 hours and benefit from it
that is maximally retarded honestly

don't put on Japanese if you don't really care to consume it
if you want to listen to Jap music do that
if you want to watch some Anime do that too
but don't put it on cuz your cult leader told you you need an unending stream of shit

what I've been doing is listening to audiobooks while doing all my chores and I can follow the story just fine while getting shit done
there isn't even a difference between active and passive input
what AJATTers understand as "passive immersion" is just Japanese grey noise

that's why they suck ass
they don't respect the Japanese

>> No.21506453

i mean we all knew it already that nuke chan will drop his trousers in an instant and proceed to take a dump on any idiot redditor

https://streamable.com/0ql94

>> No.21506457

if nuke didnt fall into the meta trap he'd probably be completely fluent by now

>> No.21506458

>>21506429
reddit has a reputation for being more "friendly" but in reality it's more friendly to the extent the voting system helps suppress dissenting opinions. anything that deviates from what a perceived authority regurgitates is treated with vitriol.

>> No.21506469

>>21506448
>because they seem to be under the impression after watching a bit of Anime
>they can just put on Japanese music or the news on loop for 18 hours and benefit from it
no they think u should do that before u watch a bit of anime

>> No.21506472

>>21506448
What would you recommend to get started with listening to podcasts. I know around 2500 words from anki and I have been listening to podcasts for quite some time now, but I'm still often way too slow to understand complete sentences and I mostly only pick out random words from here and there. Do you think one should first get some solid foundation trough reading, or can I basically just grind through this phase with time.

>> No.21506475

I mean just as an example
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XKO1wBM3IEc
look at this RETARD recording a video explaining how to use the automatic subtitle sync tool
and he has Japanese gray noise in the back while he is explaining and thinking in English
for absolutely no reason just because of pure cultists group thinking
that's why despite studying more than double as long as me you can big asses vlad
you lack individuality, character and the mental fortitude to ever become anything

>> No.21506477

>>21506448
I know Japanese. You don't. End of story.

>> No.21506479

>>21506475
i will never understand your hatred of vlad because he praised your anime cards and stopped mining sentences because of you.

>> No.21506481

why do you start insulting people and boasting about yourself when you get angry?

>> No.21506482

>>21506481
he's a slav. they have temper issues compared to westerners.

>> No.21506484

>>21506472
I don't listen to podcasts because that shit is so uninteresting to me
but I generally think to advance in Japanese in general you just keep doing anime cards and getting quality input
then you can consume everything

>>21506479
oh did he
I thought he was a 100% cultist guess I missed his reformation
good job vlad I take it back
do your best

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>>21506457
what is the meta trap? You mean that he is mostly researching about how to study, instead of studying? I'm well aware of that trap.

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>>21506475

>> No.21506496

>>21506484
yes he shared your sharex stuff with matt and then recently posted about how he quit sentence cards and just does vocab cards in your format.

>> No.21506499

>>21506496
damn where is that post

>> No.21506507

>>21506486
Doing anything besides trying to understand that one eroge or manga that you learnt Japanese for is meta-bullshit.

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u dont have to try to understand tho

u either do or u dont just naturally based on ur nihongo level

>> No.21506514

>>21506512
what is my power level

>> No.21506521

>>21506499
nvm got it completely wrong he still does sentence cards and even uses subs2srs. feel free to shit on him.

>> No.21506523

>>21506512
i wish u were really gone so i could leave the thread

>> No.21506529

>>21506521
damn I restate everything I sad before vlad
you lack individuality, character and the mental fortitude to ever become anything

>> No.21506537

>>21506512
The only difference between a sentence that's got two words you don't know and zero words you don't know is 5 secs on Google or jisho.
There's no such thing as levels. Every unkown word is just a word yet to be looked up.

>> No.21506540

sentence cards are scientifically the most effective way to pair SRS with japanese language learning

>> No.21506541

>>21506529
wrong he's doing 40 cards a day so at this rate he will surpass you in a couple years.
https://www.reddit.com/r/LearnJapanese/comments/blx2uo/anyone_out_there_tried_ajattmia_but_gave_up/ems95kk/?context=3
https://www.reddit.com/r/LearnJapanese/comments/by30lk/where_and_how_did_you_begin_learning_japanese/eqc3bv9/?context=3

>> No.21506559

>>21506541
In 2 years QM will not need anymore cards whilst that vlad guy will have quit long before. what's ur point

>> No.21506563

>>21506457
someone just has to get him to play some eroge
which ones would he like?

>> No.21506568

>>21506541
Damn 40? That's a lot yeah who knows maybe he'll catch up maybe not.
Judging from his last performance in the quiz where he didn't even know 1 word I somehow doubt he is beyond 10k but I don't really have a good grasp on how rare those words were anyway maybe it was too hard.
Anyway I'm not going to stop learning either. I'm honestly doing 20 cards right now and I'm soon running out of new cards as I'm not making enough to keep it up, but after the semester ends I will start doing 50 again consuming the entire day as well as advancing my Kanken deck. Believe it.

>> No.21506571

>>21506559
>In 2 years QM will not need anymore cards
then he will never be a quiz master

>> No.21506582

Not sure why, but this is who I imagine Quizmaster is:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7djqr-RG26s

>> No.21506585

>>21506582
nah there's no way quiz has such a masculine deep voice. he probably sounds like a mouse lol

>> No.21506611

>>21506523
i just got here today i have no idea what ur talking about

>>21506537
theres levels but its not blacks and whites its actually just a big spectrum of gey

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Anyway I'm going to bed friends. I got a date with a wonderful girl.

>> No.21506641

Nevermind that VA doesn’t fit Mokou at all. Not one bit. Incapable of picturing Mokou with that voice. Shit suppose I’ll listen to something else. What were they thinking...

>> No.21506644

If you are forcing yourself to play shit in japanese despite really getting frustrated you are learning nihongo wrong lol.

Why frustrate urself by forcing immersion you wont understand to obtain an useless skill like being able to understand japanese?

>> No.21506650

is there any list or dictionary of Yamato words and verbs in particular only? I find kango ones much easier but Yamato verbs in particular are so much more common...

>> No.21506651

cuz they falsely believe that by becoming good at japanese a bunch of amazing things of wonder become available to them LOL

>> No.21506657

So how does Aniki work?
I've added my decks, and started with 20 cards, I assume today, but it just shows me hiragana, and occasional kanji, but how do I say that I got it right or wrong?

>> No.21506662

https://youtu.be/2o9bUu3W7jw?list=PL1Z1KdfmKuebaRiSNxWbMUVZgA3tUrXfE&t=630

this guys are quite funny and i recommend them

>> No.21506676

>>21506657
kek

>> No.21506683

How 2 immersion

step 1: watch eng subbed anime, pay mor attention 2 the VA lol, do VNcore in the meanwhile, try to pik up words u lern there.

step 2: drop eng subs as soon as you do half of VNcore, get JP subs on a website you can use hover over dictionary, read yotsuba in the meanwhile.

step 3: now you are ready for porn games.

that's it, you are done, that's the only purpose of learning japanese, playing porngames that haven't released in the west and have no translation. おめでとう!

>> No.21506685

>>21506676
don't you kek me you fuckin' communist

>> No.21506701

where can i find a place where people can eagerly answer every single one of my questions about a sentence

>> No.21506707

>>21506701
2chan, but only if you post in english, for some reason

>> No.21506719

>>21506701
reddit

>> No.21506725

>>21506707
i thought they banned all gaijin
>>21506719
but then i have to deal with redditors

>> No.21506726

>>21506701
4channel

>> No.21506733

>>21506683
dropping eng subs should happen when u realize ur good enough to do so

forcing it too soon leads to ppl spending an hour to watch a episode of anime and they still ultimately have much worse comprehension than what eng subs would provide

>> No.21506734

>>21506719
this
>>21506707
>>21506726
not these

>> No.21506736
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>> No.21506739

>>21506701
ill do it post some shit ill help u right now

>> No.21506742

>>21506736
thats prolly just the pinworm infestation and is pretty independent of anal cleanliness

>> No.21506755

>>21506701
discord

>> No.21506757

>>21506100
how is that even a grammar point lol

>> No.21506761

https://youtu.be/2o9bUu3W7jw?list=PL1Z1KdfmKuebaRiSNxWbMUVZgA3tUrXfE&t=1406
>刀や!
>刀やで!
based

>> No.21506771

When did you play your first Japanese game (no vn) DJT?

>> No.21506777

like 1989

>> No.21506780

>>21506771
i haven't yet

>> No.21506794

>>21506771
a few months ago, already had about a year experience with anime, manga and vns though so wasn't very hard. drakengard 1

>> No.21506798

>>21506794
>>21506780
I was getting a bit sad after gettin rekt by trying to play Breath of the Wild a while ago. I've been in this bitch for 2 and a half months already, I thought I was ready.

>> No.21506804

i'm probably not gonna try playing games until i get to like 10k-15k anime cards since it's a lot easier to mine anime.

>> No.21506805

>>21506771
I haven't. I don't even know what games to play. The only japanese games I ever played were nitendo stuff and dark souls.

>> No.21506808
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Newbie here. Everyone says you should just jump in and start reading, but how am I supposed to do this? I'm just looking up the words on jisho, but this panel for instance.
でも = "but"
わかんない = "not understanding or not knowing" (this is wakaru + nai, right? wakaru is an ichidan verb?)
よ = a particle that ends a sentence for emphasis or to get attention (?)
The English translation is "but, you never know..."
How would I have gone about getting that translation? And how am I supposed to get grammar by doing this? I've posted about trying to learn grammar before but people just tell me to read and I'll get it through exposure.
Also, the second speech bubble apparently mentions hail, but I didn't see the word for hail in there.

>> No.21506810

>>21506798
2 and a half months seem a bit earlier for games, most people, including myself wasted more than that doing anki decks and it's a pain in the ass to look up words in games if you're not a bitch that uses OCR

>> No.21506818

>attempt to do 4 lessons in genki 2
>2 lessons in and half the day is gone and my head hurts, start misreading the English explanations
I'm never going to make it aren't I?

>> No.21506824

>>21506808
>Also, the second speech bubble apparently mentions hail, but I didn't see the word for hail in there.
yeah you do, ヒョウ, 雹

>> No.21506834

>>21506824
Oh, thank you. It doesn't list "hail" in the definitions for ヒョウ on jisho, just "leopard". But it does for 雹. Is there a way I could've looked that up?

>> No.21506838

>>21506834
try looking it up in hiragana next time something written in katakana doesn't make sense

>> No.21506840

>>21506771
5 months into learning.

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>>21506838
Thank you based anon.

>> No.21506846

>>21506818
>doing multiple lessons a day.
Take the day off, you've done too much. Come back tomorrow, skim the grammar explanations in one lesson and go back to immersion.

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Oh, sorry for asking another question so soon but is there anything to note when a word is written partially in hiragana and partially in katakana?

>> No.21506860

>>21506818
>genki 2
>I'm never going to make it aren't I?
yep, seems that way

>> No.21506865

>>21506859
that's 2 words, びっくり+した(する). sometime you'll see words with mixed katakana and hiragana, the hiragana will probably be the 送り仮名 of that verb in that case

>> No.21506868

Ok then, guess its time to do Anki decks.

Is VNcore good enough?

>> No.21506875

>>21506868
read

>> No.21506876

>>21506875
So no games?

>> No.21506878

>>21506868
yes

>> No.21506879

>>21506876
no manga either cause it's not reading

>> No.21506880

>>21506879
So what do I read?

>> No.21506883

>>21506876
Do literally anything that makes you engage with the language

>> No.21506884

>>21506880
don't read, watch tokusatsu

>> No.21506921

>i+1 sentences
fucking GAY and cringe
imagine this instead
>i+1 word - for all the kanji in the word, you know other words with that kanji with the same reading used in this word. the only think you need to know is the meaning which is the +1.
there’s literally no reason not to run a script to find all i+0 words in core10k and rep them all 100 a day they’re free knowledge

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My wage slave life has started, ending my ankidrone streak.
I feel I might become a calvin...

>> No.21506927

>>21506921
just do rtk for kanji and then i+1 sentences

>> No.21506934
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21506934

U fokin wot?
Why even use kanji for this?
To make things even worse they stop adding furigana afterwards too.

>> No.21506938

>>21506927
ive already done rtk and i+1 sentences and sentences are shit except for context based hiragana words

>> No.21506946

>>21506934
cause it looks cool

>> No.21506959

>>21506808
put ur expectations lower
ur not goin to be able to put in 20 minutes on one line and come up with the same thing a scanlator does
aim to try to understand enough to enjoy urself and move forward
dont obsess over details
ull get better at recognizing what u can figure out if u look some shit up and what ur not ready for over time
after a few months ull look back and realize the shit that gives u trouble is more complicated than it used to be
and the shit that used to give u trouble just makes sense and u can start to understand what kind of feel it has instead of just the literal meaning

>> No.21506976

>>21506934
古代長耳族

what's this supposed to mean?

>> No.21506982

>>21506976
ancient long-eared tribe

>> No.21506983

>>21506976
haierfzoku

>> No.21506984

>>21506976
old age long ear tribe

>> No.21507017

>>21506771
I don't even play games in English.
Why would I play them in Japanese?

>> No.21507114

i should be dieting but i caved and heated up some meatballs instead

>> No.21507119

>>21507114
what's wrong with meatballs

>> No.21507124

>>21507119
it's the calories. with these meatballs i'll definitely be exceeding the threshold i need to be below in order to drop weight

>> No.21507136

>>21506683
>>21506808
You seem to be confused. Manga aint reading.

>>21507114
calvin??

>> No.21507139

i stopped drinking sugary drinks and too many junk food but i haven't work out for more than a week lol

>> No.21507141

>>21507136
kys

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>>21506228
40点 / 100点満点

>> No.21507178

>>21507141
Damn you're fuckin quick lol you were just waitin for me to pop in here weren't you

>> No.21507181

>>21506269
Did you try looking thru nyaa, it usually has stuff that isn't on raw scan aggregators.
If it's not on nyaa there's prolly a private tracker group for that shit, bakabt or animebytes.

>> No.21507204

Why isn't manga reading?

>> No.21507214

cuz theres like hardly any words lol its all pictures lmao

>> No.21507215

>>21507204
It's mostly (~80-90%) dialog, so you're missing out on a lot of the language outside of that (ie.explanations of actions/scenery and whanot).
And also because it's a retarded djt meme to spam that manga isn't reading.

>> No.21507217
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me reading japanese

>> No.21507236

>>21507217
they look more like they're scraped up or dirty than blushing wtf

>>21507204
manga is reading it's just extremely basic reading for babbies, which means you should do it if you're new

>> No.21507241

>>21507236
they worked long hours in the coal mines

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>>21507204
Manga is fun to watch.

>> No.21507247

>>21507241
oh :(

>> No.21507249

>>21506325
>doing cardio
You're not gonna make it even /fit/ wise either.

>> No.21507256

how long have u been learning japanese and how much of this do u understand

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sXNz75bdD9c#t=3

>> No.21507262

>>21507256
nothin

>> No.21507263

>>21506808
Ultimately the more you read the more you'll understand. A few things to keep in mind:
>translations you compare with will not always be correct, especially scans
>correct translations will often include minor rewrites in order to make the dialogue carry the same meaning in english, so if you're checking your reading against a translation aim for "the general gist" and not "1:1 perfect accuracy" this applies doubly for gag manga like nichijou
>slang will get easier to read the more words you know but sometimes it'll just feel completely unintelligible, it can help to watch more anime
I had a lot of the same doubts and misgivings as you at the start but now I can read manga pretty comfortably (despite frequent word lookups) and also play JRPGs comfortably (also need lookups).

>> No.21507268

>>21507256
Cringe desu senpai

>> No.21507269

>>21507256
true understanding is impossible for anything short of a newtype so your question is meaningless to me

>> No.21507277

>>21507269
*nods sagely*

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how long have you been learning japanese and how much of this do you understand?

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>>21507281
japanese was better in the 90s

>> No.21507307

>>21507281
Those small vowels, do the have a special pronunciation or do I treat them like decoration like I always have

>> No.21507309

i had to look up kydj but im not cool enough for ma

>> No.21507314

>>21507307
in this case it's an elongated vowel, like ねえ, with katakana like ヴォ that's supposed to be close to a "vo" ウィ is supposed to be "wi"

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oh god what the fuck

>> No.21507337

>>21507326
ちょっとおもろい

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>>21507326
lmao

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>tfw you want to help out the noobies but are too busy enjoying compelling content

However I think nichibro is gonna make it

>> No.21507352

>>21507204
Because you don't read it plain and simple.

>>21507215
It's not a meme though.

>>21507236
Manga is for all ages let's not discriminate.

>>21507263
>I can read manga
No you can't.

>> No.21507353

>>21507340
oh shit i thought it was some retarded shit the author made up, i didn't even think to look it up to see if it was reference, thanks

>> No.21507401

>>21507352
manga's for babbies in terms of "i literally have never interacted with japanese text what should i try to comprehend"

>> No.21507404

Has anybody here ever gone to reddit to suggest people to follow some shitty sounding method that isn't actually as bad as whatever people there are doing?

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fucking make up your mind

>> No.21507413

>>21507404
if u told them to read more theyd just say this >>21506411

>> No.21507429

>>21507404
i've posted in that forum before and it's not worth it, every post you make dekinais will chime in with their worthless opinions, and the OPs are usually dumb as well.

>> No.21507450

swinging by to say "you should be playing epic video game right now"
today's rec: final fantasy 2 (NES or GBA is fine)

>> No.21507451

>>21507404
not reddit i actually just come here and do that with the 10000 hours of eng subbed anime thing lol

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essential image

>> No.21507485

>>21507469
stop reminding me how long ive been here

>> No.21507486

just realized that guy that suicided on that post still lingers among us lmao

>>21502156

>> No.21507489

>>21507469
even if that pic's fake and gay i choose to believe that it isn't fake because holy moly if it doesn't perfectly encompass the snooty attitude some ppl around here have

>> No.21507496

why doesn't all japanese audio in existence come with a transcript. this game podcast i'm listening to needs one

>> No.21507505

In what world are philosophical texts considered "real" language and the proper standard for difficulty? Most literate natives would have trouble parsing dense philosophical text (in any language)

>> No.21507512

>>21507486
爆笑

>>21507505
every time a "just read real literature" fag pops up in a video games thread i always tell them to go read some faulkner or gertrude stein and get back to me and they start blubbering a bunch of excuses. text doesn't even need to be philosophical to be incomprehensible and require constant rereading.

>> No.21507524

manga is the best way to read real japanese

>> No.21507528

imagine being a lit nerd and getting mad over video games lmao

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speaking of writing in porn games how many of you can identify the typo here

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>>21506844
漢字の「雹」は、日本の学校で習わないため、誰にも読めない程難しいくはないのだが、
この漫画の女子(ゆっこ)は「おバカ」なので(設定として)、難しい漢字を使うのは適切ではない。
漢字+ルビを使うと、彼女のバカっぽい部分が表現されない。こう言う文字の使い方は珍しくない。
学校や教科書では、として主に使われる事は書かれているが、
実際には、例えばこれらの言葉の多くは画数が少ない簡単な漢字でさえも漢字を使わないケースが非常に多い。
Bc we do not learn kanji 雹 at school in Japan, it is not too difficult for anyone to read,
However, the girl "Yukko(nick)" in this manga is "idiot"(already you know), so it is not appropriate to use difficult kanji.
With kanji + ruby, her stupid part is not expressed.
It is not uncommon to use letters to say this.In schools and textbooks,
it is written that foreign languages,外国語、外来語、擬音語、擬声語、オノマトペ are mainly used,
yet in fact, for example, many of these words do not use kanji
even for simple kanji with a small number of strokes.

・哺乳類: いぬ/イヌ(犬)、ねこ/ネコ(猫)、トラ(虎)、ウシ(牛)、ウマ(馬)、ゾウ(象)、ヒョウ(豹)
・鳥類: きじ/キジ(雉)、すずめ/スズメ(雀)、つばめ/ツバメ(ツバメ)、つる/ツル(鶴)
・爬虫類: へび/ヘビ(蛇)、ワニ(鰐)、トカゲ(蜥蜴)
・魚貝類:さけ/サケ/シャケ(鮭)、いか/イカ(烏賊)、たこ/タコ(蛸)、マグロ(鮪)、ホタテ(帆立)
・昆虫類: カブトムシ(甲虫)、テントウムシ(天道虫)、ムカデ(百足)、クモ(蜘蛛)、とんぼ/トンボ(蜻蛉)
・植物:バラ(薔薇)、ひまわり/ヒマワリ(向日葵)、あじさい/アジサイ(紫陽花)
・食物: アメ(飴)、しょう油(醤油)、だんご(団子)、おにぎり(お握り)、とんこつ(豚骨)

「雹」は、カタカナだけでなく、ひらがなでも書かれるのだが、会話文中に挟むと読みにくくなる欠点が有る。
同じ気象現象でも、「霜」「霧」は、ひらがなで「しも」「きり」と書く。
"雹" is written not only in katakana but also in hiragana,
but it has the drawback that it becomes difficult to read if it is inserted in a conversation.
Even in the same weather phenomenon,
"frost" and "fog" are hiragana, 「しも」 and 「きり」.

上記以外のカテゴリーに入る言葉でも沢山有る。
ここでも良く使われるのは、他人を罵る事にも使われている言葉もそうだ。
There are many words that fall into categories other than the above.
What is often used here is also the word that is also used to scold others.
・ばか/バカ (馬鹿)
・あほ/アホ (阿保)
・くそ/クソ (糞)
・うるさい (五月蝿い) ≒ ウザい([煩い]は、当て字)
・くず/クズ (屑)
・ごみ/ゴミ (塵)
・ほこり/ホコリ (埃)
・マヌケ (間抜け)

辞書にも色々な制限(制約)が有る事は、「舟を編む」のマンガを読むか、アニメを観たらよくわかるよ。
http://www.funewoamu.com/
「実写ドラマ」版も有るんだけどね。

>> No.21507540

>>21507469
ok that's me.

I really didn't want to read it so I just assumed it was supposed to be college level japanese.

>> No.21507545

why do people have to roleplay as people in old screenshots.

>> No.21507546

can someone explain how say, "go" and "gotsu" differ?
From my understanding, Go is the number, and gotsu is more like an adjective

>> No.21507553

>gotsu
lol

>> No.21507556

>>21507546
itsutsu = 5 things

>> No.21507558

i planned on catching up with quizmaster in the next year or two but if he cranks it up to 50 cards a day then i am fucked. i hope he goes into a coma for a couple years. but no permanent injuries or problems with his schooling, i don't want him to suffer.

>> No.21507564

>>21507558
why don't you try to catch up with someone who knows japanese?

>> No.21507565

>>21507558
hes either gonna drop out of uni or drop out of nihongo within the next year

>> No.21507569

>>21507564
cuz he was lookin for a goal he can accomplish

>> No.21507572
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minna genki?

>> No.21507587

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qUk1ZoCGqsA&

How long have you been learning japanese and how much of this do you understand?

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21507596

>>21506844
Im not him(her?), but Id like to explain the reason for using katakana.

漢字の「雹」は、日本の学校で習わないため、誰にも読めない程難しいくはないのだが、
この漫画の女子(ゆっこ)は「おバカ」なので(設定として)、難しい漢字を使うのは適切ではない。
漢字+ルビを使うと、彼女のバカっぽい部分が表現されない。こう言う文字の使い方は珍しくない。
学校や教科書では、外国語、外来語、擬音語、擬声語、オノマトペとして主に使われる事は書かれているが、
実際には、例えばこれらの言葉の多くは画数が少ない簡単な漢字でさえも漢字を使わないケースが非常に多い。
Bc we do not learn kanji 雹 at school in Japan, it is not too difficult for anyone to read,
However, the girl "Yukko(nick)" in this manga is "idiot"(already you know), so it is not appropriate to use difficult kanji.
With kanji + ruby, her stupid part is not expressed.
It is not uncommon to use letters to say this.In schools and textbooks,
it is written that foreign languages, 外国語、外来語、擬音語、擬声語、オノマトペ are mainly used,
yet in fact, for example, many of these words do not use kanji
even for simple kanji with a small number of strokes.

・哺乳類: いぬ/イヌ(犬)、ねこ/ネコ(猫)、トラ(虎)、ウシ(牛)、ウマ(馬)、ゾウ(象)、ヒョウ(豹)
・鳥類: きじ/キジ(雉)、すずめ/スズメ(雀)、つばめ/ツバメ(ツバメ)、つる/ツル(鶴)
・爬虫類: へび/ヘビ(蛇)、ワニ(鰐)、トカゲ(蜥蜴)
・魚貝類:さけ/サケ/シャケ(鮭)、いか/イカ(烏賊)、たこ/タコ(蛸)、マグロ(鮪)、ホタテ(帆立)
・昆虫類: カブトムシ(甲虫)、テントウムシ(天道虫)、ムカデ(百足)、クモ(蜘蛛)、とんぼ/トンボ(蜻蛉)
・植物:バラ(薔薇)、ひまわり/ヒマワリ(向日葵)、あじさい/アジサイ(紫陽花)
・食物: アメ(飴)、しょう油(醤油)、だんご(団子)、おにぎり(お握り)、とんこつ(豚骨)

「雹」は、カタカナだけでなくひらがなでも書くけれど、会話文中に挟むと読みにくくなる欠点が有る。
同じ気象現象でも、「霜」「霧」「雪」は、ひらがなで「しも」「きり」「ゆき」とも良く書く。
"雹" is written not only in katakana but also in hiragana,
but it has the drawback that it becomes difficult to read if it is inserted in a conversation.
Even in the same weather phenomenon,
"frost","fog","snow" are hiragana, 「しも」 「きり」「ゆき」 cases a lot.

上記以外のカテゴリーに入る言葉でも沢山有る。
ここでも良く使われるのは、他人を罵る事にも使われている言葉もそうだ。
There are many words that fall into categories other than the above.
What is often used here is also the word that is also used to scold others.
・ばか/バカ (馬鹿)
・あほ/アホ (阿保)
・くそ/クソ (糞)
・うるさい (五月蝿い) ≒ ウザい([煩い]は、当て字)
・くず/クズ (屑)
・ごみ/ゴミ (塵)
・ほこり/ホコリ (埃)
・マヌケ (間抜け)

辞書にも色々な制限(制約)が有る事は、「舟を編む」のアニメを観たら良く理解出来るよ。
「実写映画」版も有るんだけどね。
It is possible that the dictionary has various restrictions (limitations),
You can understand it better if you watch anime, also Live-action movie, though.
http://www.funewoamu.com/
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt2315226/

>> No.21507611

>>21507587
god i love hyadain

>> No.21507612

Really liking Tae Kim guide in comparison to using Genki earlier. It actually does what it describes and does it well. Afterward I'll probably do DOJG. Shit is fun

>> No.21507658

>>21507532
not me

>> No.21507668

tfw I'll never understand これでもかというほど

>> No.21507672

>>21507668
u gotta stop trying

just take it as it sounds and let that be that

someday when u get filthy fluent ull look at that again and go man i was so stupid trying to reinvent the wheel

>> No.21507679

>>21507532
と行っても---と言っても

>> No.21507694
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Does anyone have a playlist or links for Matt's Q&A videos? Specifically looking for the May 18th one

>> No.21507695

>>21506078
Whereof one cannot speak, thereof one must be silent.

>> No.21507696

>日本語をずっと前から勉強してきて、結局はやめた。

I don't understand this sentence aside from the last bit

>> No.21507700

>>21507679
大正解!ぱちぱち

>> No.21507707

>>21507540
have you learned Japanese by now anon?

>> No.21507717

>>21507696
what is there not to understand

>> No.21507718

if theres anything studying abroad taught me its that its ok to stop caring about being a japanese god lol seriously, people like gaijin who are interesting and pretty good at japanese 10x better than the ultra-fluent language master who is only good at japanese.

>> No.21507720

>>21507694
use yiffparty

>> No.21507723

>>21507718
surprised it took studying abroad to teach you the important of being a good person

>> No.21507724

>>21507723
didn't say anything about being a good person. just an interesting person.

>> No.21507729

>>21507724
same thing

>> No.21507732

>>21507720
Not on yiffparty. This was my last option.

>> No.21507733

So where are we watching anime with japanese subs nowadays?

>> No.21507734

>>21507696
ずっとまえから
日本語を
勉強してきて

>> No.21507737

>>21507729
bad people can be interesting

>> No.21507738
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21507738

Reminder that there's a massive community of people learning Japanese out there outside of DJT, MIA, your tiny private 4chan discords, reddit, and college classes, and the quibbles you drag yourself into are pathetic.

Can you imagine being so insecure that you haunt DJT with your active presence all day every day, posting about the same thing over and over again and getting into arguments with people who you claim you don't care about?

Imagine doing that in, like, a community dedicated to learning typing or photoshop. Absolutely ridiculous. Get over yourselves and just learn Japanese. It really is that easy. You can expose individual beginners giving bad advice if you want, but leave it at that.

It doesn't matter whether your vocab cards have screenshots on the back or not or whether you're mining with Yomichan or Nazeka or whether your reading material is focused on dialogue or narration or whether or not you're actually talking to Japanese people on the regular. It doesn't matter how dumb or mistaken the typical member of some random internet community is, and nothing you personally do could possibly change it.

All you have to do is keep consuming Japanese, not quit, and not make an absolute buffoon out of yourself. It's that simple.

>> No.21507739

>>21507696
having benkyoud nihongo since zutto mae
in the end i yamerud

>> No.21507743

>>21507738
is this a reddit repost because it reads like something a mad redditor would write

>> No.21507749

>>21507732
post it a few more times when the thread is active, there are some m*tt patrons on here for sure

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>>21507743
No, I wrote it from scratch, right in this here textbox, just for you. Drink up or I'm going to force feed you.

>> No.21507755

>>21507738
pls tell me how to stop

>> No.21507759

>>21507755
If you don't basic spoonfeeding help you can just close the thread and not come back

>> No.21507761

>>21507739
Thank you

>>21507737
Then they're good

>> No.21507762

>>21507759
I did this 10k times and I've returned 10k times

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>>21507755
Unfortunately, there's no one method on how to stop. I recommend wandering the hills of eromanga or VIPRPG, but that probably won't work for you, everyone needs something different. Just keep looking for a way out. You have to find that answer for yourself.

>> No.21507765

>>21507762
It's within your power to stop, so stop
If you come back despite "wanting" to leave, it means you actually want to stay

>> No.21507769

i don't really have a reason to stop coming here but if i stopped for a few months and returned i wonder what would be different.

>> No.21507772

>>21507769
楽しみにしていてくだされ

>> No.21507784

everyone saying manga isn’t reading can go prolapse their anus

>> No.21507785

thank you for these advices but my ultimate life goal is to be able to answer questions on djt with posts written in perfect 古文

>>21507784
ok but you might want to meditate a bit first

>> No.21507790

>>21507769
I've been gone for about 3 years (W*reya linked me here because Tobiden) and the main thing that will change is you. DJT seems kind of like a circus to me now (having started learning JP almost six years ago) since there's so many beginners faffing about being beginners. It's funny and I couldn't fit in with this crowd if I tried.

People talking about Matt instead of Steve is the second biggest change.

>> No.21507811

>>21507790
is that you quof
who did you like most in baller sky

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>>21507811
Who could it be but the one and only motha fuckin Masa?

>> No.21507827

>>21507738
who r u trying to convince?

>> No.21507834

>>21507822
extremely correct answer you're just as solid a dude as i thought

>> No.21507866

>>21507755
Go masturbate to some h-manga. Go watch a Youtube video in Japanese. Go read some random blogposts. Go read gay LARP threads on 2ch or edgy racist posts on 2ch. Listen to some old-ass Japanese Boomers talking about political affairs 'round the world. Look at some videos of people doing boring shit. Read a chapter off a LN. Watch some ecchi or SOL anime. Listen to some ho' talking about her 退屈な everyday life. Look up some random shit to read about on Wikipedia (hint: click on おまかせ表示).
Start again and repeat.

>> No.21507980

>>21507866
you forgot "listen to bangers"

>> No.21508018

>>21507866
>2ch
what boards it’s boring as shit and inactive when i go there

>> No.21508037

だぶつく fat loli bellies

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21508076

>Take one
>Though these might be too mature for a kid like you to enjoy~

How far off am I?

>> No.21508081

am I N4 if I can understand 90-95% of words on NHK News Easy?

>> No.21508082

>>21508076
why did you added words that she didn't even say in the first place?

>> No.21508085

>>21508076
Not too far off. Same idea but I would translate it more like:
>Here you go
>It’s still too early for you though〜

>> No.21508088

baka

>> No.21508090

>>21508088
that sounded so cute~

>> No.21508091

just finished doing my anime cards and the time just flew by. i was laughing while doing my reviews because i remembered that part of the episode and it was like rewatching it. good stuff. anoher 30 words in my arsenal.

here's an interesting thing i noticed. everyone that complains about anime cards taking too long or whatever doesn't take into consideration the fact that if something is actually fun... you don't care about the time. you don't notice it. 10 minutes might as well be two. whereas you can do 10 minutes of boring cards and it feels like 20.

>> No.21508094

i can feel anime cards becoming one of the best things i've done for my japanese study in a long time. thanks quiz master. it was worth figuring out. excited to start my next anime with this.

>> No.21508101

>>21508082
Because a literal translation feels like it's missing some context. I always have trouble with these sorts of translations.

>> No.21508105

>>21507718
what about the ultra-fluent language master who's also interesting

lol but in all seriousness i'm somewhere in between and my relationship with japanese people is great. they like the feeling of knowing they can 役に立つ sometimes when i don't know a word or two, but they also like being able to comfortably talk about almost any topic with someone from around the world (i've literally been told this). so i actually feel like i'm at the perfect speaking level for both of those benefits. that's why i don't bother practicing speaking anymore. i just keep learning stuff to improve my otaku entertainment experience. 極楽極楽~~

>> No.21508107

>>21508101
the context it's in the pic itself, why would you get confused?

>> No.21508110

>>21508101
All the extra stuff you added can be taken from the context given by the pic though

>> No.21508119

Are there any streamlined methods/guides to learn writing?
I'm already doing kklc and can write around 1k kanji but simply knowing kanji isn't enough the same way knowing kanji alone won't help with reading.
So I gotta do some dictation work or something similar how we learned to write our own language.
Any ideas? Is there a kana -> kanji deck perhaps? Should I just begin writing down a LN/VN instead?

>> No.21508124

>>21508119
just write whatever you feel like you need practice of bro

>> No.21508130

>>21507733
>So where are we watching anime with japanese subs nowadays?
daiweeb is my go-to. it has almost everything i care about watching anyway. on that note i wish i could donate to the guy who made it or something. what a fucking treasure. way easier than fiddling with subs and shit myself.

>> No.21508134

>>21508107
>>21508110
I guess I get too fixated on the written language. The context for the text is literally drawn all over the paper.

>> No.21508137

>>21507524
>manga is the best way to read real japanese
agreed.

>> No.21508143

>>21508119
if your listening sucks which it probably does, kill two birds with one stone with transcription. take something that has a transcript or subs, and listen to bits of it while writing down what you hear. then compare to the transcript/subs to see if your 聞き取り was on point, and if you got the kanji and words right.

>> No.21508149

>look up fanart on pixiv
>able to read what the characters are saying for the most part
fffffuuuUUUUUUCK i think im making it i think i'm gonna make it

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21508152

Wow, learning Japanese was easy, and all I did was finish my Quizmaster anime cards™
Thanks Quizmaster.

>> No.21508157

>その瞳に、どこかすがるような色を見た気がして俺作り物わずかに息を飲んだ
I'm having trouble understanding 見た気 and 俺作り物 (what they're referring to in the sentence). i feel like hes saying that those pupils that he saw are similar in color to his but i'm not entirely sure)

>> No.21508165

>>21508149
good stuff dude!
>>21508152
why don't you stop hating and go get good at japanese?

>> No.21508169

>>21508157
見た and 気がして are separate words

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21508182

my retention for core is higher than for my anime cards
what does this mean?

>> No.21508194

>>21508143
That sounds like a good idea, but a lot of work at the same time.
I'll take this approach once my hand gets a little bit faster with kanji writing.
My listening isn't actually terribad from listening all those jap music but obviously not as strong as my reading

>> No.21508200

ちっちゃくないよ

>> No.21508230

>tfw keep forgetting the causative-passive conjugation is a thing

>> No.21508239

>>21508169
ok thanks, would 俺作り物 be referring to him catching his breath (saying that he created the breath?)

>> No.21508250

Does anyone use like an Anki deck with grammar, particles missing in sentences you've mined or verbs saying conjugate to form X maybe?

Would that be effective?

>> No.21508280

>>21508250
Sounds dumb.

>> No.21508291

>>21508280
You sound dumb

>> No.21508304

>>21508291
Not as dumb as that idea.

>> No.21508309

>>21508304
Not as dumb no even dumber.

>> No.21508326

>>21508309
Whatever you say, pal. Go ahead and waste your time on retardedly formatted cards lmao.

>> No.21508357

>>21507281
What do DJ and MA mean here?

>> No.21508416

アイスをたべると

ふとるよ

>> No.21508423

>>21508357
Okay so I found that the DJ is part of the KY, but I still can’t find anything about MA.

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>>21508416
お呼びですか?

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>>21508425
キルヒアイス!アイスはアイスでも卿のことではない!

xD

>> No.21508438

精液のお風呂に浴びたい

>> No.21508444

>>21508438
僕も!

>> No.21508509

では今から射精するわ

>> No.21508561

>>21507738
>All you have to do is keep consuming Japanese
if not for DJT i would think this was wrong so at least this thread is good for one thing

>> No.21508584

Are there any decently easy games/VNs on mobile? I need to get into actually consuming Japanese media but I do most of my studying on the bus.

>> No.21508599

>>21508425
>>21508431
cringe

>> No.21508611

>>21508584
there's literally a shit ton just go to the japanese app store and pick something that looks remotely interesting. ファンタジーライフオンライン is 可愛い and has considerable 中毒性

>> No.21508614

>>21508438
>精液のお風呂”を”浴びたい

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21508625

>>21508416
これ食べてみて
80キャロリーしかないけど悪くないよ
コンビニでも買える

>> No.21508630

ザーメンのシャワー

>> No.21508644

>>21508182
you probably hate anime

>> No.21508655

>>21508625
みっつたべたい

>> No.21508666

So before I start making reading a huge part of my studying I land on spending a couple of months building some basic vocab and grammar competency.

Is that generally considered a good idea? I plan on reading a bit but not making it my main focus initially.

>> No.21508687

>>21508666
>basic vocab and grammar
you just had to watch 10000 hours of anime

>> No.21508691

>>21508687
Spending 10,000 hours just to get some basics seems a little inefficient.

>> No.21508693

>>21508687
こんなとこにも出張ってきてたんだ。
ところでさ、フィンランド人もサウナの後はビールって飲むの?

>> No.21508694

>>21508666
Your main focus should be voiced media. Optimally with text so you learn reading at the same time while listening. Best thing for that is Japanese subtitled Anime but VNs are fine too. Listen to audiobooks, podcasts or whatever voiced shit when you do chore or whatever and at first just try picking out familiar words. As you keep doing it'll eventually gradually turn into being fully comprehensible.
Learning a language by ear is incredibly important and people here stress reading before any amount of substantial audio input way too much (and they end up sucking ass).

>spending a couple of months building some basic vocab and grammar competency
If you mean you are going to spend time with textbooks or just learning shit disconnected from actual input then don't do that. Spend maybe a week getting an overview and start consuming Anime. Shows for children are fine but if that's too boring just watch whatever.

The best type of flashcard is this one with the word voiced in isolation and then in a relevant context, preferably one out of Anime you've previously consumed:
https://streamable.com/jyhp3

>> No.21508715

wow so the i+1 vocab card idea was a complete success it’s like i already know the words they’re so easy

>> No.21508726

>>21508691
you just end up learning nihongo
holy shit what would i do without anime

>> No.21508791

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vUpiy1RVGq4

>> No.21508868

>>21508655
240キャロリでもそんな悪くないよ
食物繊維も結構入ってるしちゃんとお腹もいっぱいになって
割とヘルシー、意外と

>> No.21508932

>>21508868
げんじつてきに

しろめしをたべるまえに

アイスたべるのはないです

>> No.21508946

>>21506701
stack exchange unironically

>> No.21508950

>>21508726
I'm skeptical. I know tons of weebs that watched that much and barely know anything.

>> No.21509027

thats cuz they effectively watched the anime on mute and just read subs lol

>> No.21509049

>>21508950
The 10,000 hours of anime with English subtitles autist doesn't know any Japanese.

>> No.21509067

>>21508666
Watch Mitsuboshi colors on Daiweeb or Animelon with jap subs

I won't stop making this recommendation cause it's objectively better in every way than manga as your first nihongo content and it makes mining retardedly easy.

>> No.21509075

>>21509049
he knows more than u : )

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>>21508666

>> No.21509117

>>21509111
really should be at least 60 minutes, wtf are you gonna accomplish on 180 hours of reading per year. even 60 is dubious

>> No.21509124

*posts some numbers and waves hands a bunch*

>> No.21509128

>>21508694
>incomprehensible input
Nice hypothesis fag

>> No.21509209

Does daiweeb just go into a blank gray screen whenever you try to open an episode for anyone else?
Or did I get ip banned for trying to make a userscript for it?

>> No.21509220

I feel like I'm not learning much by watching RAWs. I understand up to 95% (oft crippled by vocabulary because I don't read enough) but not much actually goes into active sentence vocabulary. I get that passive and active are completely different skill sets but I just understand everything I understand, I wouldn't remember half the expressions I understand completely if I tried to produce something or if I had to reply naturally to something someone asks

Do I actually need to watch/listen 8 hours per day to get enough immersion that they'd stick to active memory? I usually get 2-3 hours per day

>> No.21509242

>>21509209
It's working fine for me

>> No.21509261

>>21509220
u gotta holla @ ppl dude

ur own speech patterns are developed ironically enough thru speaking (reacting to being spoken to) lol

>> No.21509263

>>21509220
>RAWs
Why did you capitalise this?

>> No.21509266

>>21509220
>if I tried to produce something or if I had to reply naturally to something someone asks
Production is a skill that needs to be developed, it doesn't just magically happen. Have you never done it because people here meme on it so much or something?

>> No.21509268

>>21509117
If you tell actual, literal, absolute beginners to read for 60 minutes a day they're going to quit.

People naturally start reading/listening more once they're able to.

>> No.21509272

>>21509263
cuz its usually uppercase in the filenames innit mate

>> No.21509273

Reminder that 4 hours of anime = 1 hour of reading.

>> No.21509275

>>21509268
or they dont

cuz they never wanted to explore japanese in the first place and were just caught up in their own unrealistic fairy tale dream LOL

>> No.21509279

>>21509272
That's just because it stands out better visually that way.

>> No.21509280

>>21509275
People who don't actually want to do anything with Japanese can't learn it.

>> No.21509283

>>21509268
I was told 2 hours is the minimum and I didn't quit. I'm not a disciplined person by any means either. I guess putting in a bit of effort is too much to ask for the average redditor but i think it's fine for here.

>> No.21509296

>>21509280
the big pitfall u see is a lot of ppl think learning the japanese makes the content more compelling

and i always tried to tell them its the opposite but they dont listen

the early days are the days when ur most compelled by the content itself squiddos

>> No.21509306

>>21508091
>everyone that complains about anime cards taking too long or whatever doesn't take into consideration the fact that if something is actually fun
i think it's the fact that only someone as autistic as you could sit there and laugh like a goofy retard at every last one of your audio clips. for the rest of us, it doesn't sound like a good time.

>> No.21509317

>>21509268
That's bullshit. I read for that long and longer when I first started, and I'm not dedicated or disciplined at all. It's just a matter of being interested in what you're reading.

>> No.21509319

>>21509266
The rule that you're not supposed to use a pattern you haven't seen a native use sounds p legit to me, you know all the weird ESLs on the internet that try to directly translate idioms from their own language.

I don't want to stutter my way around something I forgot and enforce bad habits. I don't want to come up with grammatically correct sentences that sound unnatural so I've mostly abstained from production. I know whenever something sounds wrong but when something does not sound wrong but I'm not sure I've actually heard someone say something like that, odds are it's not natural.

>>21509261
I obviously get that I would level up (start catching passive skills) my production pretty quickly if I started doing it but I don't think I'm ready, wouldn't want to permanently cripple my Japanese. There's no one to vet my retarded posts if I started chatting and natives don't correct you anyway out of courtesy.

>> No.21509323

>>21509317
Cool story bro.

>> No.21509326

>>21509317
not everyone is as interested as you are dumbass. inb4 the next stupid fucking question i know you're going to ask even though i said "AS interested".

>> No.21509330

>>21509319
Well, you won't be able to speak Japanese until you practice it so whenever you feel ready I guess. Think about this though: how many people that are actually conversationally fluent postponed practicing production for how many years you have postponed it?

>> No.21509337

>>21509323
>>21509326
if you cant spend an hour a fucking day on your hobby then just piss off

>> No.21509344

>>21509337
implying actual literal beginners are doing nothing but reading for a full hour
also hahahahaha holy shit imagine having a SINGULAR hobby and projecting that flaw onto other people

>> No.21509352

>>21509319
u gotta put urself in real functioning situations not playin around baby shit like u see in this thread or on int or anything like that tho u can very much still get in the mix reading and interacting in livestream chats just dont say too much and stick to echoing the general sentiment for a while and then 1 day ull just have a nice zinger to throw out there and some japanese ppl might throw u some ws u never know

>> No.21509377

I have something to ask you guys, hope you can help me.

I need to say "I'm gay" in japanese. Could someone provide me with a good translation of this phrase?

>> No.21509387

わたしはゲイ

>> No.21509388

>>21509377
わたしは男の人とセックスすることが多い

>> No.21509395

>>21509326
>inb4 the next stupid fucking question i know you're going to ask
The next question? I didn't even ask a question to begin with so how can I ask another, retard?

>> No.21509398

よくfuckしますぜ

>> No.21509405

>>21509395
lmfao amazing self own on 3 levels

>> No.21509429
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Should I mine both of these expressions? I never know with this shit cause it's so low on innocent corpus but seems like something that'd be common.

>> No.21509432

>>21509429
Also I know like 3000 words, forgot to add that

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>>21509429
>>21509432

>> No.21509450

>>21509111
That seems to be exactly what I'm already doing but spending 2 months on the first two steps rather than 1. I will probably read more than half an hour a day too I think. Considering I have at least a couple of hours a day I can spend on studying currently.

>> No.21509459

i mean just go browse the japanese net for like 30 mins and when ur done have something ur able to tell someone about (in english is fine for now)

>> No.21509462

>>21509459
good advice

>> No.21509466

>>21509450
How are you going to read anything without first having vocab? Or are you planning on looking up every word?

>> No.21509467
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>>21509429
follow ur heart
if it leads u down the path of doom u were never meant to make it and its right for u to fail

>> No.21509491

>>21509467
how about you slurp some diarrhea from my ass mr knock off jamal

>> No.21509505

i think my mini me is cool well at least when hes not posting boxxy but anyway dont be mean to him

>> No.21509523

I'm trying to ask a friend if they like Panzer Dragoon but I suck at Katakana. Well I'm still a beginner so suck at most of it. Does this make sense?

>あなたはパンツァードラグーンがすきですか

>> No.21509537

>>21509523
drop the anataha and ur fine

>> No.21509542

>>21509537
Just so I know in the future. Why don't I need it?

>> No.21509546

err wait sorry what i meant to say was

おいてめぇ

パンツァードラグーン好きか

はーッ

>>21509542
its already implied that the question is directed at them

>> No.21509550

>>21509542
it's contextually implicit you don't need that shit in japanese it sounds fuckin weird man
you'll understand in a year

>> No.21509552

>>21509466
I'm doing vocab for the first two months before reading. Start adding words I come across to a new deck/looking up and maybe keep up with a premade one if it's still taking forever.

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>>21509552
>maybe keep up with a premade one
yeah, wouldn't count on it lel

>> No.21509568
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21509568

You guys wack, bet you ain't even on the spectrum.

>> No.21509579

why does the kanji for snake have the insect thing?

>> No.21509587

dang didnt expect to get reminded of a certain nakige watchin this but alas feels ftw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1pJVrGqazvM#t=1582

>> No.21509596
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21509596

>>21509568

>> No.21509603

What's a short way to let people know that I'm still learning when I make a mistake?

>> No.21509605

>>21509603
https://streamable.com/l6h0h

>> No.21509606
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21509606

>>21509596
I'm a disgrace, I'm sorry master

>> No.21509614

>>21509605
whats wrong with this? i think i understood what he said but i cant tell why its wrong (if it is)

>> No.21509615

>>21509605
>>21509603
一番強い外人になってかけているんだ

>> No.21509619

>>21509614
no the line is the answer to ur question

>> No.21509627

>>21509606
lmao no worries my total study time 2.5年を回る

>> No.21509634

>>21509603
失敗して申し訳ありませんでした!!

Don't forget to 叩頭 along with it.

>> No.21509646

>>21509603
すみません、私は蒙古症があります。

>> No.21509650

>>21509646
lel

>> No.21509657

>>21509603
どうもこにっちわマットですまあ今日ね

>> No.21509659

それは

そうとして

おなかすいた

>> No.21509661

>>21509634
>叩頭
Fucking based. I was just trying to search images like these but couldn't figure out the word for it.

>> No.21509672

>>21509646
hmm reminds me

>>21509603
https://streamable.com/jygiq

>> No.21509673

my IME (windows 10) changes back to romaji mode (marked by A) literally everytime i enter a new textbox. Is there someway to either make the default hiragana or just make it stick to whatever i used last

>> No.21509675

>>21509659
このちんぽ食えよ

>> No.21509676

Maybe someone can really help me? Would 勉強しています be enough to get my point across for now?

>> No.21509678

>>21509675
そりゃ痛いんだろう?

>> No.21509681

>>21509676
i think 肛門性交しています might get the point across even better

>> No.21509685

>>21509678
そりゃそうだけど

>> No.21509688

>>21509681
草!!!!ダット・イズ・ソー・ベリー・ファンニー・だぞい

>> No.21509706

>>21509676
just add 僕はまだまだ勉強中ですいません 人(_ _*) to everything u ever write

>> No.21509710

oh and if u speak in person u also have to say that and do the emoji irl lol

>> No.21509711

>>21509676
すみません、ちょうど今脳卒中を起こしました。

>> No.21509712

like just clap ur hands as hard as u can to the point of hurting urself ir ur palms arent bruised ur not clappin hard enough and thus being insincere about ur apology

>> No.21509798

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9lyZR0yVvkQ

>> No.21509874

Ok, so which is really best: Google IME or Microsoft?

>> No.21509890
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21509890

wew

>> No.21509904

>>21509890
Wtf is that gay club

>> No.21509915

>>21509890
people really do this?
seems like a scam

>> No.21509920

>>21509890
i hope uve realized that theres no 後戻り now

with love
sensei

>> No.21509938

>>21509890
痛いよ~

>> No.21509947

>>21509890
So many things going on there. Especially the fact that the main grade is a Kanji quiz for the whole Japanese class.

Looks like a class made for Quizzie.

>> No.21509951

>>21509890
the best thing about this is the 1st page of the syllabus seemingly invalidates the class entirely

with love
sensei

>> No.21509952

Nevermind this is a high school class. This is more than you could ever expect there so whats the problem.

>> No.21509954

>>21509952
doesnt seem like a class to me looks more like a go learn everything online by urself cuz ur big dog has better shit to do like write

with love
sensei

>> No.21509956

nakadashi shitai ><

with love
sensei

>> No.21509957
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21509957

Out of curiosity I pulled up the AP Japanese course objectives. I cringe at the thought of all the forced production this course will require. Brings me back to when I took classes

>> No.21509977

i wanna just walk into that class holding the syllabus while class is going and just be like (in george trombone voice)

"with love sensei" ってなんなんだよ

お前がsensei ??

笑わせんなよボケッ

はーツ ??

and then id write a bunch of dicks on the overhead projector over whatever "sensei" was doing while https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LcfdCeaKFMg#t=61 is playing on the classroom telebi lol

then i walk to the door and turn around and say

with love
sensei

>> No.21509978

>>21509605
I hope this kichouna link will be preserved for future generations of dekinais that will frequent djt in 20XX

>> No.21509981

>>21509977
did not read a fucking word

>> No.21509983

>>21509978
imagining futuristic djters in the mars colony in the year 2069 going to djt and clicking that link and lolling at retro humour

>> No.21509985

no worries the you will suffice

>> No.21509992

>>21509977
wow pretty epic fantasy

>> No.21509998

>>21509977
anta shouki ka

>> No.21510002

>>21509977
>teacher calls security
>school cop comes to the room
>you shout at him "keisatsu yarouuuu"
>shoots you in self defense

kore wa amerika

>> No.21510004
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is this the gayest fuckin anime ever made

>> No.21510010

>>21510004
it was pretty trash honestly but cant blame the kids who are watching their first anime ever to see it and be really into it so

>> No.21510013

arakawa under the bridge was the last good shaft anime

>> No.21510014

>>21509998
わたし狂ってるね

>> No.21510020

arakawa ub is pretty good

shaft was always trash but pani poni is prolly 1 of the greatest animes ever made

conversely szs is not a good anime

>> No.21510021

kids should watch madoka's movies as their first anime

>> No.21510023

^

>> No.21510032

>>21509890
Why does he say 1850 kanji? Everything on google states there are only 410 in AP.

>> No.21510034

>>21510013
you forgot madoka exists or what?

>> No.21510038

>>21510021
>>21510034
note he said last good anime

>> No.21510041

>>21509977
slowly but surely you are regaining the reputation of an bully, J.

>> No.21510043

>>21510038
le ebin contrarian face

>> No.21510045

>>21510004
It's one of my top favorites.
I've seen 400 anime.

>> No.21510050

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6SpdcmuTSn0#t=280 oh god waht a mistake dont click this or ull be sorry

>>21510041
careful theres a few layers to that post but ultimately its only beneficial to the learners which really they are the ones that are important

>> No.21510051

>>21510045
what in the everloving fuck is wrong with you dude

>> No.21510052

ah fuck it i know i have to explain everything

it was also playing on how guys like mattvsjapan think they are better than the teacher cuz of this thing u mgith have heard of it its called the internet

>> No.21510057

>>21510051
I dunno. Most people enjoy this show, but I can understand why you'd want to be so contrarian read:shit taste.

>> No.21510061

im not contrarian if its shit its shit cuz i said so and if it owns it also owns cuz i said so and if u dont like it ur basically just wrong

post a anime ill tell u objectively with absolutely no spin if it owns or if it dont

>> No.21510082

>>21510061
>claiming subjectivity as objectivity
Keep being buttmad idiot.

>> No.21510086

>>21510057
most people are fucking idiots. it's a sappy boring show with one of the worst mcs in recent memory. get fucked.

>> No.21510092

>>21510082
that post was also ironic and riffing on exactly just that in addition plz dont sign ur posts

>>21510086
well shitting on 3gatu is a good start lets really test ur mettle

what do u think about 4gatu

>> No.21510094

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ofs6L8xNs5k

how much of this do u understand?

>> No.21510095

>>21510086
Sucks you couldn't get into it.

>> No.21510103

>>21510094
all of it cause I'm fluetn XD

>> No.21510106

>>21510094
i understand that moe is dead and being desecrated every day with garbage like what u linked

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZQhUvcdBtc

hard to believe moe has been dead for 15 years

>> No.21510109

give me spice and wolf s03 reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

>> No.21510112

>>21510109
how does it feel to know holo loves a KEK instead of u

>> No.21510115

dang cant even write cukc 4channel ftl bring back 4chan

>> No.21510116

>>21510112
she aint real so feels like nothing at all

>> No.21510120

>>21510116
wtf

>> No.21510137

>>21510120
i know its shocking but some people can separate cartoons and reality

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>>21510109

>> No.21510160

>>21510137
u should try separating ur posts and this thread

>> No.21510165

>>21510160
n1 but it's not gonna happen, sorry to disappoint
>>21510144
feels bad

>> No.21510168

>>21510160
u should try separating ur head from ur neck

>> No.21510171
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>>21510165

>> No.21510174

>>21510168
u should try separating ur head from ur ass before u need medical assistance separating my foot from it in addition

>> No.21510179

are any of the final fantasy games good reads?

>> No.21510183
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>>21510179

>> No.21510191

>>21510183
that's horrifying, do none of the games feature kanji?

>> No.21510197

>>21510191
if u cant read that effortlessly u prolly cant read the latter games that do have kanji just at all even in the 1st place

>> No.21510201

>>21510183
If you can't easily read this you need to watch more anime

>> No.21510208

>>21510197
>>21510201
its not about reading it easily, it's about reading effectively to expand my vocabulary. if it doesn't have kanji, it's not worth it

>> No.21510214

>>21510208
never Ever gonna make it

>> No.21510219

>>21510214
sorry, i've already decided i'm going to learn japanese. therefore, your statement is invalid

>> No.21510232

>>21510219
but u wont

u never will and the day that u realize it and start doing other things and become lost to the flow of time u will occasionally remember me the guy who only wanted u to choose the path to salvation and lament ur choice to take the path of ruin destined to a lifetime of fail and aids

>> No.21510236

it's written in the stars. i will learn japanese, please stop replying to my posts now thank you

>> No.21510242

bless ur heart nooblet

>> No.21510254

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y3-WmaIXFS8
just relax and deck the halls with boughs of holly

>> No.21510294

im relaxed its just we work in a tough business where we have to watch these pour souls die every day while still believing that 1 day we can create 1 miracle and save someone

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k-ysrAqoqSc#t=71

>> No.21510392

>>21505143
JMdict is non-ironically better than any Kenkyusha offering. Fight me

>> No.21510428

how i learned japanese (N2 152/180)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7-U0cTyJgI

>> No.21510437

>>21510428
lmao i seeked right to the good part

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7-U0cTyJgI#t=149

>> No.21510438

>>21510428
>how i learned japanese
>N2

>> No.21510439

>>21510013
ひだまりスケッチ×ハニカム

>> No.21510447

https://youtu.be/0eKT2GY8DXs?t=140

Oh shit its real, Pewdiepie is learning nihongo.

>> No.21510452

>>21510428
lmfao https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7-U0cTyJgI#t=282

>>21510439
nope

seasons 1 and 2 are ok tho

after that its all over

>> No.21510469

todays word is 四面楚歌

>> No.21510485

>>21510469
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JljURsMOLmc

>> No.21510487

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UBoK24vBSCg
any other music like this? kinda hoping its based on some traditional type of japanese music and that there are many similar songs

>> No.21510500
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Anyone know any good Japanese-language documentaries?

>> No.21510520

it's great feeling you get when you are reading something and in the first day, you were looking almost every word in a sentence then after a few days, you start remembering those words and you start reading more fluently

>> No.21510525

>>21510520
Not sure, I forgot to start reading

>> No.21510526

>>21510520
これ、これ

>> No.21510535

>>21510525
Most people on here have

>> No.21510540

>>21510520
Hasn't happened for me yet but I only know 4k words.

>> No.21510546

how do u know how many words u know? i dont have a counter like that in my head

>> No.21510547

>>21510540
400ぐらいを知る。。。

>> No.21510552

i don't know how many words i know either, but i think it's more than 500

>> No.21510554

>>21510546
Just a guess based on how many words I've got in anki and how many words I know outside of anki that I see a lot while reading. The more words I know the more murky it'll become.

>>21510547
>>21510552
Oh then I guess you just enjoy recognizing words like ある or something.

>> No.21510559

Man I just opened kino no tabi and I understood EVERYTHING, I just knew it.

amazin feeling

>> No.21510561

>>21510554
more than 500 could be 10k words you know?

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>reading

>> No.21510565

>>21510554
ううん, a decent number of verbs. But i'm used to seeing the larger characters in anki, and my mind doesn't always make the connection to the smaller text immediately.

>> No.21510578

>>21503048
but gensuikakka why are you helping them

>> No.21510584

>>21510564
i can read this
i'm gonna make it!

>> No.21510587

>>21510584
ganba

>> No.21510698

>>21509067
go to reddit and recommend this so people stop spamming yotsubato

>> No.21510713

>>21510698
you said that last time I posted it. i only care about my djt bros and myself making it but if you like reddit so much feel free to post it yourself :^)

>> No.21510717

>>21509067
looks like thats just shit for pedophiles gonna recommend against that

>> No.21510732

>>21510717
it's as much for pedos as yotsuba is as it's just kids doing kids stuff with easy vocab. If you're a sick pedo fuck that can't watch it without getting hard then that's your issue. It also has this banging op that you'll never wanna skip
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M-A356DvGtc

>> No.21510737

>>21509957
when are all these dumb classes gonna catch up to the research and become input-focused for petes sake.

>> No.21510738

not even the amazing talent of takada yuuki could save the snorefest that is the mitsuboshi colors anime. stick to the manga

>> No.21510752

>>21510732
listen to those lyrics dude u know theres fuckin problems there

also what timeslot did that anime air in ? nuff said bro

>> No.21510764

>>21509273
>Reminder that 4 hours of anime = 1 hour of reading.
no it doesn't retard. most anime is at least 400 sentences. that averages to 25 pages or so of text, which takes 30 minutes or more for most intermediates to read.

>> No.21510770

>>21509296
>ppl think learning the japanese makes the content more compelling
it did for me.

>> No.21510773

>>21510752
i've watched it and you haven't so that's all there is to say really

>> No.21510778

>>21510752
It's literally a fucking kids show. Do you also get hard when you watch Dora to learn Espanol?

>> No.21510779

>>21510094
Up until the chorus, then I got completely lost

>> No.21510780

>>21509306
>i hate my life and everything is boring, anyone who can still get enjoyment out of things is autistic
go get therapy for your depression man stop taking it out on others

>> No.21510800

>>21510778
>>21510773
pretty sure they dont air brand new kids shows in the middle of the night

cope harder sickos

>> No.21510807

>>21510764
>intermediates
>reading 25 pages in 30 minutes
hhhhhhahahahahahahahahahaha i'm not even gonna get started on the fact that you're equating 400 sentences of dialogue to 400 sentences of description

>> No.21510814

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AjpSor9Otto
Just a reminder that if you cant understand this at 2x speed without subs after your first hour of learning nihongo, youll never make it

>> No.21510818

>>21510764
lol was too caught up owning the sickos to notice this post

LOL

>> No.21510826

imagine being mad at someone because they're still able to laugh at things lol tf

>> No.21510827

>>21510814
i can do 1.25x 2.0 is not really possible for anyone

hes pretty articulate tho

>> No.21510832

>>21510428
thats a yikes from me dawg.

>> No.21510840

>>21510807
>>21510818
>equating 400 sentences of dialogue to 400 sentences of description
what matters is the length of the sentences. anime sentences are shorter which i why i said 25 pages in 30 minutes rather than like, 50 minutes.

>> No.21510851

>>21510840
i cant even lol at this one

>> No.21510863

>>21510851
400 lines of dialogue in 30 minutes and 2 minutes per page for a full-on book is normal for intermediate learners. stop fucking capping, shitters.

>> No.21510867

What words should I even take when I mine? Obviously not all of them, but how do I know which ones will be most useful? Is it just instinct?

>> No.21510874

>>21510867
dont worry about it just do whatever itll all work out someday and no matter how hard u try there will always be gaps and holes

>> No.21510879

can anyone make out what this guy says really fast under his breath?

https://youtu.be/ypyMRH3-bJ4?list=PL1Z1KdfmKuebaRiSNxWbMUVZgA3tUrXfE&t=1587

>> No.21510886

>>21510780
do you think the average person is depressed? because i don't think you can claim in good faith that the average person would have fun listening to anki card clips.

>> No.21510889

biggest pet peeve is when shitters on here pretend to be better than they are.
we've got beginners coming on here all the time saying it takes them an hour to get through 5 pages of a book, but it's somehow bad or unheard of for an intermediate to take an hour for 30 to 40 pages? man y'all are annoying.
meanwhile the people pretending to be good are probably closer to the 5 pages per hour measure if they were actually comprehending what they were "reading" and not just skimming over shit to convince themselves they're fast.

>> No.21510899

>>21510889
good points this is why we NEED quiz to put these people in their place

>> No.21510901
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Been doing this a few weeks now, 20 cards a day

>> No.21510908

>>21510886
>do you think the average person is depressed?
most of the population probably has mild depression
>i don't think you can claim in good faith that the average person would have fun
forget the fact that it's anki since that doesnt fucking matter. there are thousands of youtube compilations of 10 to 20 second clips of anime scenes that people are watching for entertainment. anime cards are literally that, except with the objective of learning something in the process, and the picture isn't moving. but with the audio and image, if your brain works, it can still make the connection between the moving picture you saw and listened to, and the image you're looking at as you hear the audio.

>> No.21510909

>>21510889
>biggest pet peeve is when shitters on here pretend to be better than they are.
same. quiztard is the worst offender of all.

>> No.21510914

>>21510901
ok? keep it up

>> No.21510915

>>21510908
>anime cards are literally that
they're not. those clips you reference are of the very best moments in those shows but when you're mining you'll come across a lot of words you don't know in certain contexts that make that word memorable, but that doesn't mean the clip is good enough to want to listen to over and over. a supermajority of cards have to have audio that is not particularly entertaining.

>> No.21510923

>>21510915
was just gonna write this up but you saved me the effort. its fine as a tool and the context helps im sure but as far as it being "fun", neither qm or his ball lickers have made a compelling argument against this

>> No.21510929

Where do you get Japanese subs for dramas?

>> No.21510951

>>21510929
Daiweeb has some subbed dramas on the site but no idea other than that.

>> No.21510958

>>21510929
i think someone uploaded yoga's japanese netflix subtitles collection to the CoR, but if it's not up there just google his collection and you'll find it. but the timing will probably be off for non-netflix sources. alternatively daiweeb hosts drama with japanese subtitles.

also there's another site that had a large collection of drama subtitles but i don't remember what it was. nukemarine linked to it one time. maybe someone here knows the site.

>> No.21510967

>>21510915
>those clips you reference are of the very best moments in those shows
according to SOME people's opinions. depending on the show there are often way more funny clips that could've been added but weren't.
>but that doesn't mean the clip is good enough to want to listen to over and over
isn't it great that i have the option to only listen to some clips the first few times and then ignore it altogether later so the review takes 3 seconds? anime cards do not require listening to the clips every time forever. it's there for the first few reviews, and then only when you want to listen to it.
>a supermajority of cards have to have audio that is not particularly entertaining.
if you're watching something that sucks ass, this could be true. i love the shows i'm watching so most of my cards are entertaining. i'd say 30~40% are genuinely hilarious or giggle-worthy (doesn't even have to be the punchline clip, if it comes directly before or after there is still a 連想 with the funny part, if your brain works), 30% just make me smile, and the other 30% are closer to emotionally neutral but still have mild positive effect purely because of the fact they're from an anime i enjoyed and the art is probably nice to look at too.

>> No.21510975

>>21510967
you need to stick your dick in something that's alive dude preferably of the human species and the female gender

>> No.21510992

https://japaneselevelup.com/difficulty-level-guide-everything-japanese/

thoughts on this list? its shit i assume

>> No.21510998

people with a healthy sense of wellbeing (so i'm probably talking to like 10% of you), remember that most on these boards are depressed so they require an excessive amount of stimulation to be even mildly entertained.

don't let them discourage you from trying anime cards just because their minds and bodies are dulled from years of self-hatred, masturbation addiction, and overall dissatisfaction with their lives. see for yourself if using media from your favorite anime to review vocab/sentences makes things more fun.

>> No.21511025

>>21510998
You're projecting again

>> No.21511028

>>21510992
Seems kinda arbitrary in the mid tiers, but the beginner recs are pretty good.

>> No.21511043

when will quiz and his discord friends stop jumping back and forth between "you rarely listen to the audio" and "anime cards are fun because you get to listen to the audio"?

>> No.21511046

watched 4 episodes of yuru yuri in 2 hours wooooo

feels kinda sleazy though given the content

>> No.21511050

>>21510975
lol what a retard
1. what does sex have to do with any of this? see my above post about being desensitized and dulled. there's something wrong with you if you can't get entertainment out of anything without it being sexual
2. i don't have a dick, and i don't have sex with women. experimenting with girls has crossed my mind on a few occasions but i'm not going out of my way to find lesbians/bi girls for sex.
3. i've had mind-blowing, 連続 orgasms on multiple occasions. sex is cool but i'm over it right now. if i did want to get sex i could do so literally within minutes because men like you who are obsessed with the act are a dime a dozen.
4. again, none of this has shit to do with japanese or anime cards.

>> No.21511059

>>21511050
the fact that this is how you respond to what i said proves my point. case closed court adjourned. didnt read a single word btw

>> No.21511064

all men are controlled by a need to fuck ultimately its the invisible hand that guides

women cant understand but fucking is not ever a choice its a eventuality either we gonna fuck or we gonna jack off

>> No.21511082

where do these insane trannies come from

>> No.21511095

>>21511025
>You're projecting again
do you guys even know what projection means? lol wtf.
who's the one who literally said they're unable to laugh? who's the one who admitted their brain is incapable of making positive associations with an image and audio clip?

if those things are true for you but not for me then my analysis was obviously not a projection, but a clear analysis based on what YOU YOURSELF typed and posted.

>> No.21511100

>>21511059
>literally anything you say proves my point even though i never had one in the first place check mate hur dur
you're so dumb lol stop youing me and go get better at japanese

>> No.21511104

bitches be crazy even if they just self identify as women lmao

>> No.21511105

>>21510967
>isn't it great that i have the option to only listen to some clips the first few times
according to your logic, if the cards "make anki fun" because of the audio clips, then not listening to the audio clips makes anki not fun.
>if you're watching something that sucks ass, this could be true. i love the shows i'm watching so most of my cards are entertaining. i'd say 30~40% are genuinely hilarious or giggle-worthy (doesn't even have to be the punchline clip, if it comes directly before or after there is still a 連想 with the funny part, if your brain works), 30% just make me smile, and the other 30% are closer to emotionally neutral but still have mild positive effect purely because of the fact they're from an anime i enjoyed and the art is probably nice to look at too.
this is why i likened you to a child and brought up how average people enjoy media. this is way outside the norm and the only way this is possible is if you make like 5 cards a day.

>> No.21511111

>>21511082
idk i think a lot of modern japanese media really facilitates turning the weak boys into full fledged ass pussy boys

>> No.21511114
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>>21511046
you think that's sleazy

>> No.21511129

>>21510901
You can always start reading.

>> No.21511133

imagine laughing at 1 sentence of anime audio that you've already fucking heard wtf

>> No.21511134

>>21511105
>then not listening to the audio clips makes anki not fun.
i already said not every single card is entertaining, some are closer to neutral. doesn't mean the overall experience of studying with anime cards is not a positive one.
>this is why i likened you to a child
rather have a child-like mind in regards to being easily entertained than a depressed hardened one like yours that needs 10 hours of porn to be satisfied. i don't think you people get that being easily entertained is actually a GOOD thing lol.
>and brought up how average people enjoy media
like i said, it's likely that most "average people" people are mildly depressed and very desensitized. i do not want to be like the "average person" if that is the case, and especially if you guys are any representation of the "average person".

essentially what your argument is: "be depressed and desensitized like me or you're stupid" lol what...

>> No.21511140

"anime cards are so fun cuz you get to listen to anime bro"
i dont get this quizcope cuz i do that without cards and it's more fun

>> No.21511143

>>21511133
imagine only being able to laugh at something one time because your brain's dopamine centers have been completely drained by your porn addiction and dulled emotional responses

>> No.21511147

>>21511143
i laugh when i watch the entire episode again like a normal person you crazy fuckin loon

>> No.21511149

and thinking that's somehow a good thing... damn

>> No.21511151

>>21511134
>i don't think you people get that being easily entertained is actually a GOOD thing lol.
the point is that most people are not so easily entertained and thus the method you're advocating is worthless for most and should be advertised as such, not that being a 5 year old retard is a bad thing.

>> No.21511153

>>21511147
>like a normal person
like i've said 20 times now you are desensitized and probably have depression you haven't addressed.
also, refer to my post about the compilation clips on youtube. many people are capable of laughing at 10 second clips of something they've already seen.

>> No.21511161

>>21511151
>the point is that most people are not so easily entertained
and my point is, sucks for those people but discouraging everyone from trying it because YOU can't get enjoyment out of it is stupid. let people try it and see if they like it, because if they do it can lead to great results.

>> No.21511168

日本語はむずかしい

>> No.21511170

>>21511153
you can say it another 20 more and it won't make it true my man

>> No.21511174

>>21511161
>discouraging everyone from trying it because YOU can't get enjoyment out of it is stupid
correcting the zealousness in pushing and advocating a method that will not particularly do much for the average person is fine.

>> No.21511175

im pretty easily entertained i come to this thread after all

>> No.21511179

>>21511168
そうですね

>> No.21511185

imagine being this depressed and ignoring it in favor of trying to convince others online to be as sad as you. go get therapy guys, a couple hours of working on your suppressed issues and perhaps you'll be able to find joy more easily again. i'm going back to my anime cards now.

>> No.21511187

Anime cards work. DJT on the other hand is overwhelmingly filled with beginners and failed learners. You don't even have the qualification to say what works because you 1. never actually tried it 2. never reached a level of any significance in Japanese
The way you decide to not learn Japanese is entirely up to you. Arguing about it is pretty much pointless. The tards in here are too thick.

>> No.21511188

>>21511170
google "online certified therapist"

>> No.21511189

they really are thicc as a bricc

>> No.21511194

so says quiz "katakoto" master

>> No.21511196

>>21511187
>Arguing about it is pretty much pointless
t. guy who spends his days arguing about it

>> No.21511200

he hasnt even worked his way up to katakoto yet hes still in the quoting anime stage lol

>> No.21511202

Is that my nickname? Doesn't really feel relevant to me. That would be Steve's nickname.

>> No.21511204

>>21511188
I don't need to because I'm not depressed nor do I have other mental issues unlike yourself.

>> No.21511207

>>21511200
If that delusion of yours helps you deal with the fact that I have completely outdone you just stick to it Jamal, while you cling to those delusions of yours I am busy learning.

>> No.21511212

ull never outdo me or ever catch up to me quiztard cuz i will always be 20 years ahead in the game than u

enjoy forever chasing my shadow

>> No.21511216

>>21511185
it seems that you agreed the average person would not laugh at a 10 second clip they've already seen like an autistic weirdo but then you go right back to accusing everyone here of just being depressed, implying that most people would love anime cards. then you claim people are telling others to be depressed when in reality people are just stating they don't think otherws would find anime cards as entertaining as you do. but alright, keep lying. quiz has actually shared quite a few of his anime cards and most of them are not particularly funny.

>>21511187
matt shitting on you in that quiz completely invalidates any argument from authority you try to push lol

>> No.21511223

are anime cards the new rtk?

>> No.21511224

why you come here and project your depression onto people who like fun things

>> No.21511229

>>21511216
The guy who has learned more than 4 times longer than me with far more