Touhou Mount and Blade

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Anything new? I've been patiently waiting to see the mod improved little by little until I fully delve into it but I haven't seen a thread in a while.

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>>21462482
I haven't played the story after a pretty long lag, so I don't know it by heart anymore. Consequently, I couldn't proceed with the retranslation past where I left off. I'll replay it again one of these days.

If anyone's interested in the meager work I've done so far, here it is. It covers all dialog up to, I'd say somewhere 1/2 - 3/4 of Chapter 1, and of the full screen narration, I've only reformatted up to the part where you enter the SDM for the first time.

https://mega.nz/#!QtxylC6T!wvHts11cytEKkeMbL2kDGODYCkzzWI9A2qXXU71Ybp0

Thanks to the modular language files, you can just copy both dialogs_story and game_menus_story inside your <MB root>/Modules/Touhou - Tinder/languages/en/ and the changes will take effect.

*There should NOT be any filename conflicts.

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>>21462482
No and I doubt it will be updated in a looooong time since the chinese guy working on it is really slow.

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>>21462782
I thought the point was we're basically taking over *because* he's so slow.

Also, some of his plans are a bit shit.

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>>21462482
Not a whole lot from me, anyway. I was too busy to do any modding for a while, and I haven't felt like returning to it just yet. I've been working on a couple other creative projects instead while waiting for my enthusiasm for M&B to return. I'll probably get back to it before too long and at the very least finish up some things I left halfway completed. I also need to get back in touch with modder #2 and see what he's been doing.

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>>21463038
Understandable enough.
I've played 5 mods of MnB with a decently long break between each of them.

Anyone have the newest version of Origins and Tinder, at least?

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>>21464346
Here's a link to Origins, and a fix that I don't think I got around to including in the main download.
https://mega.nz/#!rC41ASCZ!lkCtXxlerhOoS6N9ahZ2aXswiTMkKNfXzVLhr-ygpJQ

https://mega.nz/#!CKQjyaCR!jgln01CX6FzqpP4iI_EL_WeG92vuXlmUAim1ayPkT6c

I don't think I saved the link to the latest Tinder version. I'll get it from Tinder-anon later, supposing he doesn't show up in the thread himself by then.

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>>21464346
>>21465609
Here I am!

Most recent Tinder version. https://mega.nz/#!N14xXKQR!wQAtiDjE7zsLO-N1z_Xse4-aa8BjqitmaKFdGGXuHgI

>>21462645
Appreciate it anon. This is some pretty substantial work.

>>21463038
>>21462818
I had been taking a break on it too. I had just about finished rebalancing most of the troop trees and I got a bit bored waiting on Origins anon doing his work on making a new map (which had been starting to look really good), so I just kinda stopped working on it for a while. I recently started playing with the GTA: SA Touhou modding community on /jp/ too and the work they've done is impressive, so I've been inspired to get back to work on this. I'll check in with Origins anon and see how work is going on his end.

As far as I'm aware the Chinese have done no work whatsoever. I check in periodically and neither their forums nor their chat group have been active.

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>>21462645
Are you sure that's the right file? I only see like 3 or 4 lines written in those files.

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>>21466850
Uwah, you're right. I mucked up the zip for the dialogs. Here's the fixed files:

https://mega.nz/#!pwQSAQbR!FyP1Q_414OLt7QT8Wj-IoCF_dJijpR9mzXHu4JxNXk0

>>21466828
Haha, I expected one or both of the devs to have jumped over to play in the Touhou GTA thread. I sure did!

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>>21466918
I had even considered the possibility of using some of the models and porting them to M&B. As long as they have a relatively small number of bones to their skeleton it ought to work, but model porting in M&B is a nightmare anyway so I'm not too hopeful.

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>>21462482
Silly hat and Blade?

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Still looking forward to those cannons

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>>21466828
Tinder inspired me to resume translating Parako.

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whats the difference between tinder and origins?

also it's been a while since i played The mod but goddamn if it was fun playing it
Granted i also played it as fucking 1000 stat woman but still looking forward from what it comes out of.

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>>21475348
Tinder has more features than Origins because it was developed by the Chinese after Origins. Functionally speaking it has a story mode, different troop trees, a few better models, a caravan system, and a different map. But Origins anon did a lot of work fixing up some broken siege maps that were never fixed in Tinder, plus he did his own balance changes that are pretty good. Both mods are going to be combined with the best features of both sometime in the future anyhow since the Chinese development has crawled to a halt and the stuff they're planning isn't that good anyway.

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Stuff that I'm excited for/recommending for the far-off future.

Junko as either a lord or the pretender for Eintei (because fuck the moon)

Hecatia as the pretender for the Underworld or the Netherworld maybe both with a 3rd as an eintei lord, using all 3 of her forms.

Okina as a pretender for the netherworld (because fuck yukari and her friend) or as a hakurei lord

Seija as the Hakurei pretender

not sure who I would recommend as the other pretenders, and I think it's obvious where the other characters should go.

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>>21477437
I don't know if it's even possible to have more than 1 pretender for a faction at once.

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>>21477465
probably not, but that's why I left options!

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>>21477437
Lord Kastor of Veluca is the rightful heir to Youkai Mountain.

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>>21477492
obviously, hence why I didn't mention adding one/changing it, but I have no clue what could be done about the Taoists and Buddhists aside from doing a male Miko and Byakuren's brother, but I don't know why they would be fighting against their factions rather than being a lord.

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>>21477522
It's pretty strange with those two since really they're supposed to be pretenders to each others faction, claiming that the other religion is false and they should be the predominant faith. Maybe one day in the future ZUN will make a Buddhist/Taoist heresy game.

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>>21477546
I want an Ambition of Toyosatomimi no Miko game!

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>>21477590
I want a Return of the Myouren game!

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>>21475348
Origins has some quirks that can make it pretty wild, most of which seems to have been 'fixed' in Tinder, sadly.

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>>21483105
Actually I somehow managed to make it worse.

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Alright, I'm feeling enthused enough to do some modding again. Back to the endless pit of torment that is blender's UI I go!

Does anyone have any ideas regarding what might make a good banner for Koakuma? On a whim, I created replacements for what I consider to be some of the less impressive lord banners left over from my first overhaul, but I have no idea what to do with hers. My attempts at making something using her colors and a generic book symbol did not go well.

>>21477437
I haven't inserted it into the game yet, but I wrote pretender dialogue for Seija, and finished/polished up the dialogue someone wrote for Kastor in one of these threads. Those will both likely be in the next version.

Hecatia as the Underworld pretender makes more sense than anyone else I can think of, though of course we currently lack a model for her. Maybe someday.

>>21483105
Though they cause some issues, I do like the ridiculously huge bandit armies and genocidal faction patrols in Origins.

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>>21484484
>we currently lack a model for her. Maybe someday
Thats why I mentioned it for the far-off future, because from what I understand you're basically relying on the chinks for models, and there's no way that happens within the next year.

>I do like the ridiculously huge bandit armies and genocidal faction patrols in Origins. It's like Marisa always says "it ain't war if it ain't 1000+ plus people fighting"

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>>21484484
I think a design with some small devil wings and library stuff might be cute. It seems most flags just take small parts of the 2hu outfits and turn them into full blown flags anyway.

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>>21484484
How about just combine a red book and some devil wings, or have a book with some runes on it.

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>>21488100
red devil wings on both sides of a book with a hexagram like the ones from the stage is my suggestion

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>>21489680
I wish I could overthrow Remilia and take Gungnir from her after a protracted decades long war.

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I wish I could overthrow Remilia and take Gungnir from her after a protracted decades long war.

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You can never go wrong with kappas

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>>21494420
For some reason, regardless of what my initial plans might be, my games always seem to end up consisting largely of my character going on a genocidal crusade against the SDM.

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One thing I wish the chinese did was at least take stuff like the mob kappa mmd models too so they aren’t all Nitori or at least reskin certain troops so they aren’t visually the exact same as the lords

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>>21502979
this is a big thing that I hope to see improved in star version, but I understand why it might be too hard or annoying to do.

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>>21502979
The clone armies are a bit silly. I could alter the textures to make the generic troops look different from the actual characters, but I'm not sure it would have enough of an impact to be worth doing.

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>>21504257
It would probably help with immersion, but I remember a whole back I was trying to do stuff like keep the reisen clones using only the short hair variant and all that so there’s at least something different, Kappas would be weaker if you removed the head unless you make clones of the generic heads with the same stats though

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>>21504583
Just make some brown or green haired kappas or something. It'll do the trick.

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I think the rough solution to all this would be to take all the different head, eye, and hair combinations, and create different versions of them with low, middle, and high stats, and then add them to the troop trees, or somehow allow the player to decide what heads different troops can use.

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>>21505106
There are already the 'head' type helmets, which could theoretically be added to the Kappa troops, who could spawn with a random one on.

There is also a rather unusual feature made by the chinese devs wherein the you can choose what equipment your troops take into battle, BUT the only selection is the stuff within their item table - which for many units has no selection at all, they just have 1 set of equipment and that's it. Also it affects -every single unit of that type-, so you can change the head of your Kappa1, but they all use the same head. And then change the head of your Kappa2, and in the end you have an army of kappas with two different faces.

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I decided to test the idea, and changing around hair, eye, and accessory color actually does do a fairly decent job of making kappa troops stand out from Nitori. It also makes them a bit more visually interesting in general when they have some variations and don't all look exactly alike. I might take this further and see what I can do with other troops.

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>>21507480
Luckly overall there isn't that many of the same exact troops-ruler types and some others like the shrine maidens I guess and bodyguards like the witches with Marisa or something, and white wolves could be left the same since even in canon they don't look much different from Momiji,

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>>21466828
Glad those great times playing have inspired you, keep it out anon.

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>>21507480
Do you have any example screenshots

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>>21511406
I do, but my IP range continues to be blocked from posting images. Otherwise I would be showing off my fancy new banners and such.

>>21507735
Recoloring things doesn't take too much effort in any case.

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>>21511406
I can post for him.

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>>21513506
Wow, Nitori looks 200% sluttier with blonde hair.

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>>21513506
can you do a yellow hat and red hair one?

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Heres how the Koakuma banner turned out.

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>>21513519
>>21513506
We also need black/dark hair Kappa if we're really doing mobs, that one stood out the most

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>>21513530
loooks good enough for me, if you wanted to go a little more detailed you could put something inside the book, like a symbol on either/both sides, but that's up to you.

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>>21513552
I hear pentagrams are all the rage among mages and their familiars

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>>21513519
Sure. I already made a red-haired one, and I'm not sure I like the hat color I went with for it anyway.

>>21513532
Already did. I liked the look of that one too.

>>21513552
>>21513571
That thought occurred to me, but I had trouble squeezing anything in there that looked good/recognizable. The banners are only 132 pixels wide, so fine details are a bit tricky to do.

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>>21513594
I just suggested red with a yellow hat because I noticed all the others were a hair>hat=hair color cycle that wasn't finished

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>>21513506
Although I would still prefer different hairstyles for the Kappas, this looks decent enough.

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>>21517071
Might be possible to hack some up by moving around the hair or removing like the ponytails

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>>21517071
>>21517164
That would be nice, but it would also require a lot more effort. Many of these meshes actually aren't all that low-poly, despite appearances: Nitori's head is 4000 polygons. Given my limited experience with 3D modeling, I find that pretty hard to work with. I can make minor fixes and remove parts, but making actual significant edits that look good is probably out of my league.

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I'm pretty excited for this to be honest, even if its just hairstyle changes or using the generic heads you guys got no idea how much this improves my experience over clone armies