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Thread #2183: >>21449104

>> No.21458274
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How many of these are real?

>> No.21458279

>>21458274
At least two.

>> No.21458358

If you don't know how to read the word 驟雨 you're an eternal dekinai.

>> No.21458362

>>21458358
"shooo"

>> No.21458364

>>21458274
thicc dog

>> No.21458375

Can someone explain to me what’s with い adjectives ending with き? Is it just ye olde speak or is there another nuance to know?

>> No.21458377

>you troglodytes are literally too stupid to do anything without a loot box dopamine rush every five minutes
That's how Khatz has personally described himself over a thousand AJATT posts, though - but for him, it was 3 minutes and 3 meters in front of your face.

>> No.21458387

>>21458274
>>21458364
The fat one has the food in its belly.

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>>21458375
ググレカス

>> No.21458399

>tfw one year in and still haven't learned katakana
I'm not even memeing. I learned it half-assed a few times but it never stuck unlike hiragana. I should get around to it.

>> No.21458410

>>21458399
If you don't know katakana, you don't know shit about Japanese, given how often it appears in all forms of writing. "Stuck around" like hiragana? Ridiculous, it doesn't have to stick around, it's already everywhere. Pick up a fucking book you trash.

>> No.21458419

>>21458410
>Stuck around" like hiragana? Ridiculous, it doesn't have to stick around, it's already everywhere
I said stuck, not stuck around. As in, it didn't stick in my mind. Usually when you use quotation marks it's to actually quote what someone actually said just fyi. I also never said I know Japanese but stay mad my dude lmao

>> No.21458426

>>21458399
How is this possible? Have you not tried one of those flashcard websites?
Here: https://realkana.com/
Just do it, it should take day(s) not year(s).

>> No.21458428

>>21458272
What is your fucking problem?
Why can't you realize this isn't your fucking /v/ board. Make threads when the current one is dead because it can take half a day for a thread to move away from the last position. Honestly fuck off.

>> No.21458431

>>21458419
Nice defensive post of no substance, shithead. Maybe you'll learn Japanese someday. Probably not, though.

>> No.21458438

>>21458426
Yeah, I used the one in the guide. I'd do it for a few days, get to the point where I'd be making almost no mistakes but it didn't stick. When I learned hiragana I was still writing out all new kanji and their readings in hiragana by hand so it stuck very easily. But reality is that I'm just a lazy sack of shit.
>>21458431
I can't help but think your anger is some sort of projection of your own inability to learn Japanese. Seek professional help perhaps.

>> No.21458446

>>21458438
Try production then, idk. Believe it or not the human brain learns faster when you do things both ways (even when it's backwards and serves no function otherwise).
Most katakana is english anyway, just pick some random english words and try to write them in katakana.

>> No.21458448

>>21458410
It's mostly english words written in another script so it's really easy to bullshit your way through katakana. Most of the time it's a set of specific words that come back a lot in whatever you're reading. If you're reading Hibike you just recognise マウスピース and you don't even have to look at the characters.

>> No.21458452

I can read most sentences now at a decent speed, but if there's a katakana word in there I've never encountered before it's like I'm decoding hieroglyphs.

>> No.21458455

>>21458428
Not OP, but you already made this post. >>21458312

>> No.21458457

>>21458448
Yeah, that's how I read English without knowing the alphabet. You fucking piece of shit. You can't read Japanese without knowing katakana and skimming over the characters in individual words doesn't change that.

>> No.21458462

>>21458438
Also now that I think about it, it's pretty normal to forget after a while.
I still think one of the biggest tricks to learning Japanese is just to keep going forward. If you try to master any 1 part before you move on then you'll end up taking years longer than it should.
When you get to the point where you aren't making many mistakes don't try to keep going, and don't feel content and stop studying.
Move on to the next stage at that point. Study grammar.

>> No.21458464

>>21458452
That means you fucking suck btw, Japanese people read shit written in pure katakana with zero issue or pausing.

>> No.21458466

>>21458464
>>21458457
im curious as to why you are this mad, it makes no sense to me

>> No.21458469

>>21458466
I'm just swearing a lot and being insulting, that doesn't mean I'm mad.

>> No.21458479

>>21458469
well that just makes you a cunt but i suppose youre aware of that so carry on

>> No.21458506

>>21458438
>I can't help but think your anger is some sort of projection of your own inability to learn Japanese. Seek professional help perhaps.
a lot of people who post here have psychological issues. not sure why they won't just go get therapy. no money perhaps?

>> No.21458513

>>21458457
That's exactly how it works. If you give a class of kindergartners chairs with their names on it they'll quickly learn which is theirs just by the shape and size of the word. They won't be able to read it out of context, but here the context is narrow enough that they can learn to recognise it.
That's how it goes with katakana. Normally you're either learning vocab, where you have a fairly narrow group of words you choose from, or you're reading stuff, where most of the time you have a fairly narrow group of words to choose from. Even if you are haunted by シ and ツ in your nightmares, you can still read シャツ without issue, because what else could it be?

>> No.21458514

>>21458479
he's lying, he has psychological issues he's ignoring and pretends it's just a "quirk". either tourettes or some kind of trauma. denial won't help you and it will only get worse long-term, go get the help you need. >>21458469

>> No.21458516

>>21458513
Yeah, I agree that this individual is on the level of a kindergartner who can't read is name.

>> No.21458570

quickly finding the hardest part about learning this language is finding the right definition of the word. is it so hard for a language to have one concrete meaning for one word and not several? is there some kind of trick to this?

>> No.21458577

>>21458570
>is it so hard for a language to have one concrete meaning for one word and not several?
Are you retarded?

>> No.21458581

>>21458570
Don't forget the bonkers number of homophones as well. The trick is to get good, thats all there is too it

>> No.21458582

>>21458570
stop thinking japanese in terms of english

>> No.21458590

>>21458570
literally too dumb to make it.

>> No.21458592

>>21458570
>>21458582
It's the same in any language though. Can't you imagine some Japanese guy thinking why the hell we have so many synonyms too? Like what's the difference between "splendid" and "wonderful"?
It's just to make the language more divers, poetic, and/or the words differ by subtle nuance that non-native speakers won't really get

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>>21458274
1 why do u all think thats 太
>>21458469
ur losing cuz u sound too honky

>> No.21458594

>>21458593
because the food is in his belly

>> No.21458596

>>21458593
There is no winning and losing where there's no competition.

>> No.21458599

>>21458594
that food aint real
>>21458596
life is a competition

>> No.21458603

>>21458570
can u list one language that has "one concrete meaning" for every word? japanese isnt an exception to this, just a bit more so than other languages

>> No.21458604

>>21458570
Also take a look at this:
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/run
How many definitions of the word "run" are there?

>> No.21458610

multiple meanings is exaggerated by jmdict which tries to list every word u could ever possibly use in a translation in any context instead of just tryin to get across the actual meanin and lettin u use ur extensive fluency in eigo to figure out other words that could express less literal usage

>> No.21458615

>>21458455
You considered that I may be another person voicing the same sentiment?
People making threads early need to be reported and banned. Look at people talking in two threads now.

>> No.21458617
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Common knowledge tells us that a single consumed story is worth 1 point on the J-CAT. Common knowledge also tells us that prologues and intros tend to be significantly harder than the rest of the story. Thus, one can conclude that the intro of a given story is essentially worth a single point, and if you consume 300 intros, then you should get 300 points on the JCAT, maybe with a little supplemental listening and reading on the side. Therefore, I hereby inaugurate the "Drop It Like It's Hot Challenge": read the ENTIRE intro or prologue of a unique VN every single day, then drop it, and find something to read tomorrow. Every single day. After 300 days of this, you will have read 300 intros/prologues, and you should basically be fluent at Japanese!

>> No.21458618

>>21458615
except for the rare kid whose never been on a slow board before the only reason they do it is to win the op race and use their sick image
even i dont shitpost that hard

>> No.21458619

>>21458615
>You considered that I may be another person voicing the same sentiment?
It's the exact same comment though

>> No.21458624

>>21458619
whats ur issue

>> No.21458625

>>21458617
how do people come up with this shit lol

>> No.21458630

>>21458624
I'm bad at Japanese and have a daily desire to hang myself from the tree in my backyard among other things

>> No.21458658

>>21458625
shitposting is an art and to be honest with u he aint got it

>> No.21458826

>>21458822
Reddit aside, I can't imagine moving to a country with as low of an English speaker % as Japan without knowing the language. Are these people crazy or am I?

>> No.21458858

>>21458826
if they actually pick up the language and have some good experiences theyd be the ones winnin for not bein afraid of jumpin into a new environment
but if theyre the ones just hangin out with the local gaijin community for 10 years still unable to read hiragana then lol

>> No.21458884

>>21458858
On the one hand I want to say you can't just "pick-up" Japanese but on the other I'm still intermediate at Italian after 5 years of not using it and all I did was spend some summers there as a kid with 0 formal study.

>> No.21459045
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21459045

狼と香辛料VRが

なんかしずかにうれてるみたい

わっちわっち

>> No.21459054

>>21459045
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I446-UGC9Hw#t=114

>> No.21459081

>>21459025
only a new word every 3 minutes? i'd kill to be in ur position

>> No.21459088

>>21459081
No need for murder, my violent friend, just consume native material.

>> No.21459096

>>21459091
>Why are SRS and that mutually exclusive?
well
>Its such a grind that every week or so I have to take a break from reading

>> No.21459186

>>21458994
If you want a concrete short-term goal, look at a book / manga / anime (even just an episode if you're a beginner) and say: "I'll finish this."
JLPT is only useful to put on your CV. But if you really want to take a test, you can do that, but you don't really need that. You could take the J-CAT for free to know where you're at.

>> No.21459187

>>21458594
It's a dong hanging towards the ground, not food.

>> No.21459252

>>21459241
i really didnt even skim it i went directly to the (you) and was like ok champ good on ur djt longform posting series

>> No.21459257

good luck*

>> No.21459288

>>21459272
To sum things up, yeah of course you're going to struggle with "less common" words if you barely consume media and do so at a slow pace anyway. What you're doing right now, by my estimate, is barely consuming Japanese media with the bulk of your actual studies being Anki, which is exactly the kind of situation that our ancestors warned us about. Learning from anime is reasonable, but the amount of language in an episode of anime is about as much as like a few pages of text at best, which suffice to say isn't a whole lot.

>> No.21459316

>>21459302
no quizzes no masters

>> No.21459564

日本のクマさんたちはトモダチです. 彼らに餌をやってもいいよ. ちなみに私はクマじゃないよ.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dwatp0BlvLM&vl=ja

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>https://www3.nhk.or.jp/news/html/20190603/k10011939391000.html?utm_int=news_contents_news-main_002
Lol imagine having your literal 中二病さ exposed on the news like this

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love my cards

>> No.21459930

When I encounter 蜂 how do I know if it's a bee or a wasp?

>> No.21459937

>>21459930
雀蜂 is a word :)

>> No.21459948
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21459948

Finally finished vncore.
I know I shouldn't be getting excited over anki, but god damn does it feel good to actually feel like I finished something.

>> No.21459961

>>21459948
>>21459953
or just start mining now if you feel like you can differentiate kanji already. I did rtk (without the writing) but wish i stopped after 500 or so kanji since you also learn the readings if you mine and will need to mine a lot of kanji even after finishing rtk anyway (spoiler alert the joyo kanji are not at all enough to read pretty much anything)

>> No.21459987

>>21459154
>If every hour spent fiddling in SRS - making cards, worrying about retention rates, and of course reviewing cards - was spent having fun with native material instead
How does that even work? You get some dude who likes SAO from /a/ and shove his face into the LNs, how is he going to enjoy that? On top of that you set someone on a journey with no goals, no milestones, and no end. Just 'LMAO JUST IMMERSE xD".
Look at anon up there all happy with finishing his deck. Humans do well with short and long term goals.

>> No.21460011

>>21459995
Never ever do text hooking to begin with trust me. Btw using the radical searcher in Jisho is pretty fast and you can always google ”口へんに食と書いて” and so on

>> No.21460025

>>21460022
don't need them for a foreign language either

>> No.21460026

>>21460022
The trick is, you don't need flashcards for any language. That's the point.

>> No.21460028

>>21460014
They learn English exactly like this.

>> No.21460031

how do i learn to love japanese media so that i can tolerate reading and listening to it for 4 hours a day?

>> No.21460047

>>21460034
>is not much
lol yes it is. i bet you could hit 90% comprehension of SoL shit in 18 months with that.
>>21460037
i like it and want to appreciate media in its original language. i just don't love it.

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>>21460021
Because I'm learning to write kanji.

>> No.21460061

>>21460011
bein afraid of hookin is dumb
if ur so reliant on it u wont read anything u cant hook ur fucked
and u can def be too stupid to look at the kanji before u give up and mouse over and that would be a problem
but when ur a complete beginner lookin up 5 words every sentence bein able to read more lines in less time is more important than havin to work to look shit up
ur learning more than words and u dont have to be in a rush to get the kanji down fast
just relax and enjoy the nihongo flowin over ur body

>> No.21460063

>>21460048
lol why would you do that when you don't know jap yet

>> No.21460064

The real problem with this language is the simple kanji
人口一二刀刃力女小子字学戸田由何
compared to these relatively mild ones:
練馬農務歳逮捕場際隣捜査関係後親警
They're not even the same language really

>> No.21460065

>>21460057
reading is much easier for me than listening because of kanji so i figured it'd be the opposite but idk.

>> No.21460079

>>21460071
sorry i just dont really care about the beginner phase that much anymore now that i'm far beyond n1. if people dont want to listen to my advice thats on them

>> No.21460107

>>21460089
>he isn't N -1
get a load of this dekinai

>> No.21460117

>>21460089
>there's not much above N1
>can pass N1 at 13k vocab
>language has 300k words
literally what. I read many words in the news everyday above N1 bud

>> No.21460124

>>21460101
learn about phonetic radicals and you will be there in a month or two

>> No.21460127

>>21460122
>if you know the words in N1 you will know 99,99% of words that you encounter
this is actually just not true at all lol

>> No.21460140

>>21460119
>11 months
doubt intensifies

>> No.21460143

>>21460139
zoomers weren't raised with world of warcraft you giga boomer
fyi that game came out 15 years ago

>> No.21460155

>>21460140
it's real but i guess it cant be proven. like >>21460144 said it is not really worth faking anyway

>> No.21460158

>mfw コンセント isn't even on any of the jlpt exams
Have fun not understanding every day basic words and looking like a retard if you ever make it there.

>> No.21460174

>>21460063
being convinced you need to learn to write kanji for some reason when you can't even read a book yet without looking up every 3 words is the biggest scam and i can't believe so many people have fallen for it

stop while you're ahead and use that time for learning more words and reading >>21460048

>> No.21460178

>>21460150
足や肛門なら分かるが
クリトリス?ホモかよあんた?

>> No.21460180

>>21460177
yeah come back in december then, little baby

>> No.21460207

>>21460204
thanks but no thanks

>> No.21460212

>>21459262
>i think everyone should spend a couple months reading with no anki so they learn that they have a brain and can pick up words without anki
many people have done this and reported that they hardly learned shit. picking up 1 or 2 words a day is so inefficient compared to what anki can do. you don't even have to keep the words in your anki deck for long. 2 weeks or so of reviewing is enough, then delete or suspend. but not reviewing words at all is just asking for your vocab acquisition to be an excrutiatingly slow crawl. unless you're inputting 5 hours a day which, let's be frank, almost no one here is doing.

>>21459262
i think anki should only be used for vocab to reading
readings are overrated. i'd rather have the meaning of a word down than memorize the reading any day. knowing that 一攫千金 means "get rich quick" is going to help me way more than just knowing it's pronounced いっかくせんきん. the latter is basically going to be useless unless i'm listening, and even then if i don't remember the meaning it's pointless.

>> No.21460213

>>21460174
I agree with you but I'm learning to write kanji on the side still. I do 10 new kanji a day and I'm 1500 at the moment. I do hate the time it takes up though. Glad I didn't start off doing it.

>> No.21460224

ITT: People talking about the N1 who don't know anything about it or the japanese language

>> No.21460225

my pseudoscience isn't like that other pseudoscience it actually works

>> No.21460232

damn it guys if you don't know why or how your shit works just say so don't try posing like this it makes you look like dumbasses

>> No.21460235

he ITTd me. thats how you know hes butthurt

>> No.21460248

>>21460186
>It's a translation of a western novel, so there should be a western equivalent
Here's an idea: look up the novel on Wikipedia or somewhere and read through the list of characters.

>> No.21460257

>>21460186
Are you sure you're reading it correctly? If so, are you sure it isn't an OCR error?

Post a screencap if you can.

>> No.21460258

>>21460246
are you saying anki unlocks more of your brain?
maybe meditation also unlocks more?
that must be why the anki + meditation guy can do telekinesis

>> No.21460277

>>21460272
are we supposed to believe something that is similar to other things but has not had studies done on it works

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>>21460257
>>21460240
Screencap pic related. And it's 100% not a misprint because it's mentioned multiple times.
>>21460248
Nice idea, but it's a minor character, she isn't on the wikipedia page in any language :/

>> No.21460281

>>21460279
>And it's 100% not a misprint because it's mentioned multiple times.
ctrl + F <western name> replace with <japanese translation with typo>

>> No.21460288

>>21460281
What? If I'm understanding you correctly, you want me to use ctrl+f on a printed book?

>> No.21460296

>>21460277
what have you read about the mind illuminated? what about it's system sets it apart from other meditation instructions? name a few things.

>> No.21460301

>>21460296
>name a few things.
giving him instructions like you're his teacher is sure to make him respond the way you want him to :)

>> No.21460302

>>21460262
Writing is useless to me. I want to be able to see kanji in my head and writing is the tool I'm using to do that. Before doing this, even kanji that I've seen thousands of times like 私, 僕, and 俺 were impossible for me to imagine. Now I know exactly how each of them look and can see them at any time. I'm very happy with the results.

I'm currently at 1800 kanji and my deck ends around 2200. I haven't decided if I'm going to keep learning to write new kanji or stop there.

>> No.21460308

>>21460291
>>21460257
>>21460248
>>21460240
Okay, so now I found a pirated copy of the original (English) and her name is Jacinth. Dafuq

>> No.21460306

>>21460304
Based, I'm just like you. This one time my friends asked me to watch Pulp Fiction with them and I suggested we watch it in Japanese and they just looked at me weird. I sat down on the couch with them anyway because they're my friends, but I just ended up reading a Japanese novel instead of watching the movie lol.

>> No.21460312

>>21460304
Dude, it's not about the origin of the products. It's about the language. You could be reading electrical engineering textbooks or cake recipes in Japanese instead of English, and it'd still count as immersion material.

>> No.21460316

>>21460301
huh? i'm asking him to present what he knows about what he's trying to argue about. his argument has no substance otherwise.

>> No.21460350

私は貴女に復讐してもいいぐらい恨みを抱いているのよ
Is this "I've embraced enough resentment to take revenge against you"?

>> No.21460360

>>21460333
>i said memorizing a translation doesnt
it creates one memory link that future encounters and contexts can attach to. memorizing an approximation of a word's meaning is always better than having no idea what it means.

>> No.21460366

>>21460350
basically but not more present tense

>> No.21460368

>>21460352
well it's kinda like a flat earther saying his flat earth theory differs from the well-researched and refuted theories pushed by most flat earthers, and when asked to provide scientific evidence in favor of his theory that is supposedly super different from the others he responds with "heh do you even know anything about my super special theory?" i don't, but i don't have to in order for there to be evidence that doesn't suffer from publication bias and small effects to be posted. so either post that, or people will continue to think you're loopy.

>> No.21460394

>>21460372
> it's worse to memorize 適当 as "proper, adequate" than to have no idea what it means, for example
I did that lel. I always learn the meaning from the context I'm mining though, unless I was retarded in this case. I learned the casual meaning too, they're both listed in the dictionary.

>> No.21460399

>>21458272
What's the sauce for that pic?

>> No.21460406

Finally emerging from my weed withdrawal, time to get good at Nihongo

>> No.21460407

>>21460368
except you know what flat earth theory involves, which is why you can make a proper judgment on it.
you don't know what TMI involves... you can't even name one or two details about the process, the instructions, anything. so your judgment is based on literally nothing.

>> No.21460411

>>21460370
I find Anki just generally irritating. Even when I'm not using it it's an annoyance because having to think about whether or not I should mine this word or that gets in the way of me just being able to simply sit down and enjoy what I'm reading or watching. Every time I decide to make a deck I end up deleting it within a week.

>> No.21460420

>>21460411
just open ur heart to jesus and he will show u that cards are not the way and that everything u had done up to that moment was just gay and retarded lol

>> No.21460438

>>21460407
>which is why you can make a proper judgment on it.
flat earth theories vary widely. i can't make a "proper" judgment on every last one of them. but if they refuse to post scientific evidence for their particular iteration i can dismiss them as the pseudoscientists they are.

>> No.21460439

>>21460309
i gave u a paragraph of a you about popup dics and dont get no respect

>> No.21460441

>>21460439
i did read that sorry for no reply

>> No.21460463

>>21460438
>flat earth theories vary widely. i can't make a "proper" judgment on every last one of them.
Yikes, i get that he backed you into a corner but that's all you could come up with?

>> No.21460465

>>21460438
>i can't make a "proper" judgment on every last one of them
yes you can, all flat earth theories involve that the earth is flat by definition
which is provably false
so you can dismiss all of them outright

>> No.21460490

日本語はむずかしい

>> No.21460498

>>21460490
desune

>> No.21460502

>>21460480
>it's kinda like how you approach meditation actually lol
i'm not the guy you were arguing about meditation with, i just replied because you don't make any sense

>these theories involve complex models and you have to deal with those models. they can bullshit their way around any counter-point you bring up
if their conclusion is provably false none of this crap matters
it's like listening to the best theory on why santa claus is real

>> No.21460504

>>21460490
私はそんなふうに思えません

>> No.21460525

>>21460520
If you say it enough times somebody will think you're cool eventually

>> No.21460534

i dont care what they think i just wanted to let u know how i feel about ur post

>> No.21460537

>>21460534
stop arguing about things you don't know anything about and won't take the time to learn about. you're wasting everyone's time and your own.

>> No.21460540

where did i ever argue with u

>> No.21460541

>>21460506
>what's the general idea of meditation?
there's several different theories but they're all bullshit judging by the weak scientific evidence.
>like i've said multiple times, no studies have been done on the mind illuminated yet. so those studies don't exist
you didn't say that, but i'm glad you said it now. so it can safely be dismissed.
>but those things are irrelevant
well they're irrelevant because meta analyses of studies measuring the effects of mindfulness on depression, anxiety, self-control, insomnia, mental health, etc. indicate small effects and extreme publication bias.

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>> No.21460568

>>21460541
>so it can safely be dismissed.
You can't dismiss something on the basis that no scientific work has been done on it. If that was how it works there wouldn't be any scientific progress ever.

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>>21460555
In 50 years Calvin will be the polyglot linguist that all language studies model themselves after.

>> No.21460577

imagining calvin as like a mid 30s dad with a beer gut watchin american football on sundays as his one great pleasure in life now that hes bogged down with a career he hates a mortgage a few kids and all the while he cant stop thinking about how he let his dream of learning a foreign language and finally finding somewhere he belongs slip through his fingers like grains of sand in the hourglass lmfao

>> No.21460578

i'm conflicted, i don't give two shits about meditation but the guy arguing against it is a fucking retard

>> No.21460579

>>21460568
what i mean is that there's no reason to believe that it's true, not that research shouldn't be done on it.

>> No.21460583

>>21460541
>there's several different theories
i'm not talking about theories. i'm talking about the actual process. what does a person do in meditation? name one technique.
>you didn't say that
i've said it multiple times in the past and i'm sure you're the same guy who always argues meditation on here despite knowing nothing about it, referencing the same plot from a study you didn't read.
>because meta analyses of studies
1. meta analyses can be flawed for several reasons, and multiple people have broken that one down specifically. 2. still has nothing to do with the mind illuminated and it's specific techniques and process.

you would not be able to tell the difference between the techniques studied in that meta-analysis vs what's in TMI, or be able to say why the former was ineffective and why the latter may or may not be more effective - because you don't know about meditation and you refuse to learn about it. your ramblings are meaningless.

>> No.21460589

>>21460541
Can you put a trip on so I can fucking filter you? holy shit

>> No.21460602

>>21460477
followin whats fun has gone differently for me
i watched enough eng subbed anime that yotubato didnt kill me and early on i enjoyed reading a lot more than anime
eng subs aint bad but without makin some connections while reading lots of shit prob would have just kept goin over my head like it did for the years before i wanted to learn nihongo
without eng subs wasnt fun and progress was real fuckin slow
after a few vns that aint a problem anymore anime is fun and i learn a lot from it
but if i didnt jump into saya i might have given up
agree with not needin to look up everything though

>> No.21460603

>>21460578
but i called out his dishonest tactic of trying to shift the burden onto his interlocutor and got him to admit he has no scientific evidence to back up his particular flavor of cult.
>>21460583
>name one technique.
noticing your breath.
>referencing the same plot from a study you didn't read.
hell i even did you the favor of posting a bunch of meta-analyses for meditation and pointing out how they were all bullshit. which i'm sure you didn't read.
>still has nothing to do with the mind illuminated and it's specific techniques and process.
of course. the point is that you have no evidence for your theory.
>and why the latter may or may not be more effective
that's a very weasely way of admitting you don't have evidence for your theory.
>>21460589
looks like the cult is growing, continuing to lash out while providing no evidence lol

>> No.21460605

please give me cock

>> No.21460614

>>21460603
buddy there's no cult they just think you're obnoxious

>> No.21460623
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>>21460578
no way. im completely for meditation but the guy supporting it is pure cringe

>> No.21460628

>>21460603
>shift the burden onto his interlocutor
holy sHIT

>> No.21460629

>>21460490
水を飲むのは難しい?

>> No.21460633

>>21460623
having a gif of an underage cartoon girl eating popcorn saved is cringe

>> No.21460637

>>21460633
kys

>> No.21460642

spoiler: any idea totally fleshed out is cringe

life is pointless after all

>> No.21460643

>>21460628
heh even threw in a big word to assert my dominance

>> No.21460647

I'd rather lick Jamals old, wrinkly taint than be in another thread with this much bullshit about fucking meditation

>> No.21460648

"please show me the scientific data to support your claims."
mega cringe

>> No.21460656

>>21460647
>makes post showing he needs meditation

>> No.21460658
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21460658

can we stop posting about offtopic bullshit and bring it back to what really matters?

>> No.21460663

we need to discuss heisig and the remembering the kanji method

>> No.21460664

>>21460654
>>21460658
>e-celeb bullshit
biggest cringe in this thread so far. you should meditate to control these cringy thoughts

>> No.21460665

Meditation is all wrong, I've given you the best method a while ago but no one wants to listen as usual.

You go weight lifting instead of meditating and while lifting you listen to your favorite Drama CD or Seiyuu podcast.

>> No.21460667

>>21460656
Yeah wanting to a thread about Japanese to be about Japanese is really crazy

>> No.21460673

>>21460603
>noticing your breath.
and then what?
>hell i even did you the favor of posting a bunch of meta-analyses for meditation
you didn't do anyone a favor except your own ego. because even then i was promoting TMI specifically, which none of those had anything to do with. the only benefit those studies would have is if you could point out why the techniques used in the studies in question were ineffective. but you could not and still can't.
>the point is that you have no evidence for your theory.
you are the one who claimed that what was observed in those meta-analyses and TMI are the same thing. and you still have come nowhere near close to demonstrating that. because that would require having knowledge on what the practices in question involve. which you don't have.
>that's a very weasely way of admitting you don't have evidence for your theory.
what, saying you don't know anything about what you're attempting to discuss? not sure what's "weasly" about telling the truth.

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>>21460602
i feel like were pretty much in the same place on how that goes

its hard to explain how u can make the transition from being a eng sub scrub but after a while u just check out other shit and start makin those connections and its ftw as hell and then u keep branching out keep absorbing like a sponge and then it starts happening: u start winning hard

basically if it was like a graph itd look like this where u just come to a point where u hit escape velocity and just start constantly winning and it never stops lol

>> No.21460682

>>21460658
Breaking News: Extremely overweight guy finds out he has no willpower

>> No.21460681

person who knows about the topic at hand: *states the obvious*
ignorant person who just likes to argue: "that's weasly!!"

lol

>> No.21460690

The 10k eng sub posting never made sense to me. Does anyone in this thread not already watch a fuckton of that just for fun?

>> No.21460697

i used to think that but when i realize im dealing with 20 year olds lol they havent evne begun to watch anime

>> No.21460698

>>21460678
Bruce Lee said if you die because you can't run 5 miles then it's a good death

>> No.21460701

bruce lee is also fucking dead

>> No.21460703

>>21460595
>>21460577
this hits too close to home. its time to stop shitposting

>> No.21460704

>>21460673
>TMI specifically
i don't understand why you keep repeating this when i've addressed it numerous times. yes, you allege that those studies on mindfulness do not utilize the same techniques outlined in TMI. it doesn't matter though - you haven't posted evidence in favor of TMI. those studies don't have to relate to TMI. the point is, mindfulness is bullshit, and now you're peddling a specific flavor of it which you claim deviates significantly such that those studies say nothing about TMI. well that's a great assertion, but you still have no evidence that TMI works, so who cares?
>that what was observed in those meta-analyses and TMI are the same thing
i did? can you quote that
>what, saying you don't know anything about what you're attempting to discuss?
no, your pontificating on what "may or may not" work isn't scientific evidence.

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>>21460698
Bruce Lee was weak/small as fuck though.
>>21460673
>>21460704
What's the most effective way to make you to stop posting?

>> No.21460715

>>21460701
Ya but we're all gonna die anyways, its a moot point. In a hundred years bruce lee will be remembered, while not a single person on the earth will remember us.

>> No.21460728

>>21460715
Do people actually give a fuck about this? The people that are remembered are the ones that did cool shit cause that's who they were, not in a pursuit of glory or external validation.

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>>21460715
the worst shit is being reminded once again that im older than bruce lee

its weird how u never catch up to ppl u admire and adore

both 2d and 3d

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>>21460555

>> No.21460747

>>21460712
i'll stop after this post. there's no arguing with a cultist. they try their best to shift the burden of proof onto others.

>> No.21460752

does anyone know where I can download an ungodly amount of enka?

>> No.21460751
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21460751

do you guys think he ever finished it?

>> No.21460754

>>21460736
Yea I'm old too bro.. but Paul Rudd is fucking 50 so that should make you feel better.

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>>21460751

>> No.21460758

>>21460752
>enka
https://www.google.com/search?q=rutracker+japan+enka&rlz=1C1CHBF_enNL848NL848&oq=rutracker+japan+enka&aqs=chrome..69i57j69i64.3271j0j1&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

Rutracker has literally everything lol

>> No.21460760

>>21460752
jpopsuki or failing that rutracker

if you still can't find what you want you're probably not going to

>> No.21460766

>>21460751
>summer in Spain is shit for studying
haha what the fuck

>> No.21460770

>>21460752
looks like its time for some jero

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DqSA5VgV1ew

>> No.21460779

>>21460629
いや、そりゃ「みずかしい」っていうんだろう

>> No.21460788

>>21460752
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y24RNrNK5M8
マイワイフ

>> No.21460794

>>21460788
https://streamable.com/elor0

>> No.21460807

>>21460751
>1.5 years
I can't even imagine the staggering laziness that cause you to do 4 kanji a day.

>> No.21460829

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9mvsRO6-_j0

>> No.21460832

who are the comfiest japanese let's players

>> No.21460834

>>21460832
Rin would be good if only she wasn't absolutely shit at video games.

>> No.21460835

>>21460832
idk just look for the guy playin codblops i bet hes a real chill bro lol

>> No.21460858

>>21460832
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCdn5BQ06XqgXoAxIhbqw5Rg

>> No.21460863

>>21460832
>はいどうもーバーチャルゲーマキズナアイです
I usually just watch the virtual tubers and a few others. But yea most of the girls are pretty bad at games but kawai.

>> No.21460891

>>21459948
You didn't finish shit with those 76 leeches lmao that's like
5% of the deck.

>> No.21460895

idk i know some girls that are pretty good at games : )

https://streamable.com/jqr1d

>> No.21460901

now i really really wanna drop angel beats because they're gonna have a baseball game and i just don't care about any of this

>> No.21460909

then do it u stupid gay fuckface

be a man of action for 1 time in ur pathetic life

>> No.21460912

i hate dropping stuff

>> No.21460918

>>21460901
how will u ever survive little busters

>> No.21460920

then fuckin enjoy the baseball episode dude

baseball is a lot like life dude

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DEnFUTjZMJ0

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>>21460901
Channel your inner Steve.

>> No.21460935

>>21460832
watch anime

>> No.21460941

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eV8bCqT151A
the japanese in this one is superb and when you die you get replay of the audio with subs, and truly good side chit chat

>> No.21460953

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eV8bCqT151A#t=263

lol

>> No.21460963

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nhuNb0XtRhQ
how can one song be this fucking incredibly amazing

>> No.21460973

>>21460963
i saw this in related and just instantly went to it instead ftw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p3FsbF_Aito

>> No.21460980

>>21460973
That one is great too, but you should really give the one I posted a shot, it's worth it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2XMTuqSy2KQ

Anotha one

>> No.21460992

Do you usually play through all the routes in a VN before considering it finished?

>> No.21460996

>>21460992
No because I'm not autistic.

>> No.21461006

>>21460992
depends how i feel sometimes im just not that into a game that when i finish the 1st route and the credits roll im just like yea thats fine ill leave it there whatever

but by no means have u completed it

>> No.21461012

>>21460992
I don't count the bad routes

>> No.21461200

I didn't jerk off for a few days and did so yesterday while laying flat on my bed and busted so hard that I splooged right on my own fucking face

>> No.21461233

>>21461200
based qm

>> No.21461249

>>21461233
What makes you say that?

>> No.21461259

>>21461200
now heres the important question

did u like it

>> No.21461272

>>21461259
No despite being a literal faggot. Well, bi-faggot at least.

>> No.21461275

slow and steady wins the race

>> No.21461280

> 某ラノベで言うなら、ル○ズとシ○スタの両方に手を出して無事でいるようなもんだ。

what do the marus mean, the author has done this a few time in the wn, but i've never seen it before

>> No.21461309

>>21461280
i think he's obscuring the names of the characters so he doesnt directly refer to it

>> No.21461315

>>21461249
he really loves himself

>> No.21461319

>>21461309
Yeah, I pasted the offending lines into google and found it was from zero no tsukaima (the line is part of a conversation about his dad wanting to have a harem). Fucking nihon and their copyright laws

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I sorta get the meaning of the phrase, but I don’t think “Don’t lose by your emotions” captures it fully. Any better translations?

>> No.21461470

>>21461450
idk, it's not exactly the same thing but a common english phrase that comes to mind is "don't let your emotions get the best of you".

>> No.21461515

>>21458358
I learned this in Tokyo Ghoul

>> No.21461523

Word of the day: 依怙贔屓

>> No.21461524

>>21461470
i think a better translation would be something more positive

u know its 1 of them deals where it sounds better in english if u flip it from a japanese negative to a english positive

>> No.21461529

>>21461523
What's the difference between this and just 依怙

>> No.21461534

気持ち以外で勝て

>> No.21461560

>>21461529
i dunno

>> No.21461597

how old are you guys

>> No.21461618

>>21461597
Old enough

>> No.21461620 [DELETED] 

>>21461597
11yr old girl here.
Don't tell the mods though, it'll be our little secret

>> No.21461650

>>21461597
69 years old

>> No.21461683

柔肉

>> No.21461695

>>21461683
柔襞

>> No.21461716

胸乳

>> No.21461717
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敵の意思をくじく!

>> No.21461728

I wish I could recognize all anatomy related words as fast as I can 膣 and 手

>> No.21461757

>>21461728
same

>> No.21461800

>>21460992
Yes, absolutely.

>> No.21461824
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GOSH DARN IT FREAKING HECK, WHAT HAPPENED TO KOTOBANK?!

It looks like shit, doesn't have efficient search anymore.

What were the dictionaries it used so I can install them myself?

>> No.21461868

>>21461824
The search change is a side effect of the death of Yahoo Dictionary.
https://dic.yahoo.co.jp/close/
But the actual dictionary pages still have the same content from 大辞泉 and 大辞林.

>> No.21461896

>>21461824
If the dictionaries it uses are 大辞泉 and 大辞林 as >>21461868 says, you can find them as EPWING dictionaries on RuTracker (and also in the CoR, I believe). You'll need an EPWING reader like Qolibri to use them though.

You can also use both of these EPWING dictionaries with Yomichan (after converting them), if that's your popup dictionary of choice.
I believe support for these two dictionaries is planned in Nazeka, but not yet implemented (only Kenkyusha and Shinmeikei are implemented so far), so you're out of luck (for now, at least) if Nazeka if your popup dictionary of choice.

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>>21461868
I don't really get how the new system works, I mainly used it for finding 熟語 for obscure kanji when Kanjipedia failed me.

I'll look up some words I remember taking from Kotobank to see the dictionary names, I think there was more than just 大辞泉 and 大辞林.

Koujien, from the top of my head.

>> No.21461915

>>21461868
>https://dic.yahoo.co.jp/close/
Why did they shut it down? There's no explanation here.

>> No.21461919

>>21461900
Koujien is also available in EPWING format.

>> No.21461936

>>21461896
>>21461919
Apparently the fat one is 日本国語大辞典, doesn't seem to be available in the mega pack nor in rutracker.
Let's hope these shady blogs on duckduckgo do something.

>> No.21461992

Anyone else at the point where you're saving words in Anki to improve your vocab, but you rarely see the word again outside the context you found it? Unless I mined an anime and loop the audio on my phone, a lot of words I learn I rarely see again. It's like for each 100 words I learn, I'll have 1 less word to look up in each show I watch.

>> No.21461995
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21461995

Ok its gif quiz time, describe this gif in your own words.

>> No.21462011

>>21461992
check a couple frequency lists before adding a card to anki

>> No.21462024

>>21461995
海賊みたいな奴がジャッミウングしてる

>> No.21462025

>>21462013
no need
nips use romaji input

>> No.21462027

>>21461995
超ヤバいダンスの中国製っぽいキャプテンフック

>> No.21462034

>>21462025
I haven't actually looked at how it works at all.

>> No.21462036

>>21461936
You need to pirate ATOK 2016 for that.

>> No.21462068

>>21461824
http://dictionary.nifty.com/ is powered by kotobank and has better searching now.

>> No.21462103

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T6uhQMjm4b0#t=13

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>>21461896
You should note that the experience won't be the exact same if you use the epwings as kotobank uses different versions of those dictionaries. For example compare the definitions for とんぼ in the epwing copy of the daijisen with the one online.

>> No.21462125

>>21462115
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYymrlZkLDI#t=71

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>>21462068
Wow wtf, you're so cute, anon!

>>21462036
Damn, imagine buying a software in order to be able to type your own language.

>> No.21462143

Is サクラの詩 supposed to be hard to read?
I just finished reading Nanatuiro Drops, and I've noticed there isn't a lot of overlap in terms of vocabulary between the two.

>> No.21462153

>>21462143
SnU vocab isn't that much harder than other moege, but it's harder to follow the context. It's not straightforward comedy like Angel Beats or something.

>> No.21462154

Is Axanael a good beginner VN?

>> No.21462161

>>21459975
Is complementing someone's hearing ability by saying 耳がいい actually erotic or is it just my visual novel?

>> No.21462163

>>21462154
if you're able to install it you're already 75% of your way toward fluency

>> No.21462164

>>21462143
its not supposed to be hard to read but its also not exactly ur shitty standard galge with dogshit writing like that other thing u mentioned so if u get good vibes keep goin with it but if not id read something else cuz most of what makes it good is in the text

>> No.21462172

let me add to that axanael question.

is there a TON of really boring slice of life stuff like eating breakfast at the cafeteria every day with some dumb ass and then having to gather students to play baseball?

>> No.21462179

>>21462172
not really you start the vn and this thot on a bike starts running over immigrants it’s pretty based and redpilled

>> No.21462182

>>21462179
based pewdipie, unsubbed from t-series.

>> No.21462184

>>21462172
ur really fuckin buttmad over daily life stuff

maybe u should read maggot baits or something like that

>> No.21462200

>>21462179
thanks. is there a tag or something on VNDB that would let me know if a VN has excessive stupid retard shit like what i described?

i know there's a "slice of life" tag but i just checked angel beats' tags and it doesn't have that tag, but still has excessive slice of life BULLSHIT.

>>21462184
doesn't look bad i might give it a shot

>> No.21462201

judging by ur post id say some1 is actually looking to put their dick in a ear canal

>> No.21462204

i wanted to play axanael but i saw trap shit and i don't like trap shit

>> No.21462209

>post ID

is this int

>> No.21462210
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21462210

how? how on earth??????

>> No.21462224

>>21462200
i hope u dont read maggo baits and i hope u dont like it

cuz that was a joke req bc that games pretty horrific and basically smut and just really awful

if ur a edgy teen who gets off on that shit then enjoy i guess just know every time something fucked up happens in it im there in spirit shakin my head at u

>>21462204
idk i think ull change ur tune about how u view the trap chara if u played it hes pretty much a boy and not a trap even tho they like to show pantsu wiener bulge lol

>>21462210
lol western erogamers are just actually the worst and u should disregard them all

even me

>> No.21462225

>>21462204
hes not happy about it either

>> No.21462233

>>21462222
>boring shit but if you’re learning nihongo the boring shit takes hours
yea that's what it's like for me. i guess i can just try to speed through it really fast.
>>21462224
oh nvm then thanks. figured there must have been something more to it than meets the eye.

>> No.21462234

>>21462200
>>21462210
Angel Beats was fun, I want to reread it sometime.

>>21462222
it doesn't have a translation

>> No.21462243

>>21462233
well if u liked the crispy girl in katawa shojo u might find something to enjoy in maggo baits *laughs nervously*

>> No.21462255

ur all remindin me that the dude who said hed pick up chronobox will never return

>> No.21462264

What's a good converter for Kanji/Hiragana/Katakana into Romaji? I used https://j-talk.com/convert for a long time but some time ago they went full kike with donations/accounts and limiting the characters and what not.

>> No.21462268

dont pick up bad games or ur nihongo career just ends instantly look at angel beats guy look at geyline guy

bad games ruin lives

>> No.21462272

>>21462264
Just learn kana + kanji, m'lad. It should take no more than 4 months to get them down.

>> No.21462273

i survived career intact
but no one will know what i went through

>> No.21462284

How come VNs can afford voice acting the entire fucking game probably paying a fortune but every single AAA video game stops having voice acting once you jump into some side quest stuff. Kind of strange.

>> No.21462286

>>21462273
まだ元気か?

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peak power

>> No.21462291

>>21462284
do u think bitches gettin paid to make high pitched squeals whines and moans are gettin paid the big bucks on these games ? lol

i mean yah that is most of the money that goes into them but lol if u think its a lot

>> No.21462293

>Learning Japanese using romaji

Just why

>> No.21462294

>>21462291
Okay but why can't actual high budget games consistently voice act the entire game that's what confuses me.

>> No.21462296

inb4 who u quoting hehe xd

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>>21462286

>> No.21462299

>>21462293
That's what Dogen recommends lol

>> No.21462301
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21462301

Man, trying to play Aterie Rorona in japanese made me give up on my will to live. I can't believe I got so rekt by such a fucking childish girly looking game. What the actual fuck.

Give me back my will to learn nihongo u bitch.

>> No.21462321

>>21462210
how do i sort for non ero vns?

>> No.21462323

You should read Euphoria, it's basically better than maggotsbaits and also has diaper shitting. It's all action all the time and the MC is alpha as FUCK.

>> No.21462324

>>21462294
idk im not in tune with modern high budget games

>>21462301
dang ur goin on the list with angel beats and geyline guys

rip rorona guy

>> No.21462337

>>21462321
filter by games including the tag no sexual content

>> No.21462338

>>21462324
Come on, why is this so fucking hard, I did everything as according, I learned my kanas, I read tae kim around 3-4 times, I'm doing VNcore, yet the only thing I can somewhat enjoy right now is jp subbed anime, and even then I have to constantly use yomichan every single fucking second.

>> No.21462348

>>21462338
no mention of eng subbed anime so i dont think u did everything u were supposed to

>> No.21462358

>>21462348
I've been watching anime since I was 12 come on man, of course I must have +10k hours.

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>>21462321

>> No.21462363

Day 40

I broke my immersion today. Some friends came over and invited me to go golfing. It sounded fun so I did. Didn't really feel like using japanese when I got home either. I'll start back tomorrow.

>> No.21462368

>>21462358
ok how long ago did u do the shit u said in this post >>21462338

>> No.21462371
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21462371

If you don't wake up after 10k hours of eng subbed anime just knowing it™ you are doin something wrong.

>> No.21462373

>>21462338
ur gonna get destroyed sometimes
u just gotta find somethin that u enjoy ur surface level understanding of and feel compelled to keep readin
if u dont feel that then try somethin else

>> No.21462375

>>21462368
I started around april.

>> No.21462381

Day 69
Jacked off to some big tit models today. Realized I don't care about Japanese so I'm quitting.

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21462387

how is どろろ apparently it's pretty good

>> No.21462388

i meant to write not even surface level but then i didnt

>> No.21462394

>>21462375
there u go lol

u shouldve been branching out years ago and so now u still gotta go thru ur growin pains

>> No.21462402

So should I try and go tru rorona again or should I stick to jp subbed anime?

>> No.21462408

do whatever u want dude ur firmly in that phase where u need to do things u wanna do in order to spread ur nihongo roots out as it were lol

>> No.21462412

あなたは常に私の前を歩み
しかも光輝に満ちているべきだ
消極や安定などがあなたの光源になりえるのか

>> No.21462416

ok that was a mistake. all nsfw medieval fantasies look like shit lol
eroge ftw

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>> No.21462424

fuckin rip gintama guy too man so many dead

>> No.21462437

I end up wasting hours of time every time I boot up my computer to do my studies. I have study every day or else I will get behind so that means I waste basically every single day. I wish I could dynamite my computer and step away from the Internet forever but I would lose my progress.

>> No.21462443

Maybe I should do anime cards instead of just watching anime.

>> No.21462449

>>21462443
How are you gonna know which words to study if you don't watch anime to get them out of?

>> No.21462462

>>21462449
What?

>> No.21462463

>>21462449
but I watch anime every day

>> No.21462649

Registered for J-CAT, they asked for my school. Will they contact my school or is it just for statistics?

>> No.21462653

>>21462649
how? If you did the correct thing you'd put DJT academy into that data field.

>> No.21462664

>>21462649
theyre gonna robodial all students and faculty at ur school and tell them all that u dont know japanese lmfao

>> No.21462665

is there a djt discord

>> No.21462671

3, yes

>> No.21462722

>>21462604
It's not so black and white. You can accelerate your listening immensely with constant exposure over time. Also socializing is something the brain actually craves. If you give it outlets like djt instead of your target language it will think it doesn't need it. I just think if you're trying to get good severely limit this place. The more you can stand not socializing the better, unless it's japanese. This place is meth.

>> No.21462819

>>21462664
>>21462653
fuck im so fucking dumb
shitshitshit
brb gonna kill myself, i dont deserve living after making such an horrible blunder.
see you on the other side DJT

>> No.21462822

>>21462819
btw I have put my real university there as well

>> No.21462854

>>21462822
yeah i was joking, I understood >>21462664
wasnt serious

>> No.21462857

anyone else at random times duiring the day have the audio of george going "mattaku wakannai" and "ore wa, ore sama wa hontou ni eee yatsu yo ore wa" just play in their heads? honestly you could make a remix of that kinda like leeroy jenkins or ain't nobody got time for that

>> No.21462863
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am I too dumb to understand this translation or is it kinda off?

>> No.21462948

>doing rtk for a few days
>好 = fond = "woman" + "child" primitives
>one of the easiest compounds to remember, shit writes itself
>the premade story is about fondling kids
What does this tell us about Heisig?

>> No.21462959

>>21462948
Took you that long to realise that many of his stories are written from a Christian religious studies background?

>> No.21463070

おはようおにいちゃん

あつうい

>> No.21463074

>>21462857
I do it now too. Today I was talking to my dog even and started saying 'ore wa ore sama'. That shit was pretty funny t bh.

>> No.21463080

>Success is not measured by the number of things that get done.
>Success is not measured by the proportion of things that get done.
>You don't win at Chess by mowing down as many pawns as possible.
>Screw the pawns. Take that king. Focus on that and screw everything else.
>Boom. Headshot.
-khats先生

>> No.21463082

>>21463070
俺のちんこも熱いんだぞ
今にも爆発しそうだよ
どうかこの性交的な猛りを収めてください
頼むいもうと!!

>> No.21463093
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21463093

Which one of you guys paid the $5?

>> No.21463135

>>21463119
idk I gave trying to figure out particles by rules
It's like how in english you know its
"big red dog'
and not
"red big dog"

>> No.21463140

>>21463119
にわにはにわにわとりがいる

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>>21463135
Just imagine if you had to deal with this shit in Japanese.

>> No.21463302

>>21463268
This is why the "don't think, feel" school is so based.

>> No.21463307

>>21463302
That only works once you reach the highest level of proficiency.

>> No.21463368

I just found out that Japs post the corn emoji followed by ばんはー during live streams and I think that is cute. Thanks for 聞ing.

>> No.21463384

>>21463368
asking or listening?

>> No.21463400

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RqcswOkxc0o

>> No.21463404

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BgJm62hERaY
K had such a great OST

>> No.21463413

>>21463404
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lyWrvPrNufQ
kinda makes me want to kms though

>> No.21463421
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What is this 又 doing here
わぁ

>> No.21463429

>>21460891
Oh, na, those are cards I already did in my mining deck before running into them on vncore, I figured there was no need to do them in two places at once.

>> No.21463454

team suspend new anki cards after one week of reviews and spend most of your time reading and listening

>> No.21463467

https://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1559641447444.webm

>> No.21463468

>>21463268
I agree with the idea this guy is sharing but I naturally read it as "...French green silver..." at first and "green great dragon" makes sense to me. Not ESL by the way.
Point is that there is freedom in language, but yeah the point is that you don't understand grammar you know feel grammar.

>> No.21463472

>>21463468
The point is that it doesn't sound natural when you say it, not that you can't discern the intended meaning because the word order is off

>> No.21463474

is it illegal to post links to good エロ漫画 on here? no pictures just link

>> No.21463475

>>21463468
Green great dragon makes sense to you because you're a fantasy nerd and your mind jumps to [green] [great dragon].

>> No.21463479

>>21463474
yes, the cops come to your door within 7 minutes.
happened to my brother bob.
i miss bob

>> No.21463489

>>21463475
yup it makes great dragon into the noun. its called a compound noun maybe?

>> No.21463513

>>21463474
dw bro we're all cool kids here no one will report you and jannies don't come in here. just go ahead and post the picture.

>> No.21463519

ok its bestiality though

>> No.21463526

-系(けい) = Lineage; system
30. アフリカ系移民によってアメリカの文化はよほど豊かになりましたよね。
By African immigrants American culture has greatly become enriched,hasn't it?

BASED IMABI

>> No.21463539

>>21463526
Black people have made some of the best music of all time so I've got no issue with it just for that alone tbqh

>> No.21463545
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I'll get there.

>> No.21463548

>>21463539
Cope mutt "music"

>> No.21463569

>>21463553
Whatever helps you sleep

>> No.21463575

>>21463569
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OGd6CdtOqEE
It does actually help me sleep, I'll leave classics like this on in the background sometimes

>> No.21463583

which アオナツライン on nyaa should I download? there are like 2 high seeded torrents

>> No.21463607

>>21463468
green Great Dragon = OK
green great dragon = NO

>> No.21463608

このサイトはウイルスみたいね

>> No.21463633

wheres the posts about the legend of the door

>> No.21463639

>>21463633
do u mean the light novel that was recommended a while ago or something entirely else?

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>>21463645

>> No.21463667

so transitive verbs and intransitive verbs like 聞くand 聞こえる basically mean the same thing, but transitive verbs require a direct object in the sentence it can interact with, but intransitive doesn't?

>> No.21463673

>>21463667
watch more anime

>> No.21463674

>>21463673
no

>> No.21463677

うちゅうじんはいますか

>> No.21463683

>>21463645
lmao, spilled my miso soup

>> No.21463690

>>21463677
俺のチンコが宇宙から来たよ
舐めてみるか

>> No.21463695

>>21463674
Understanding this won't get you even one step closer to knowing Japanese

>> No.21463703

>>21463667
https://itazuraneko.neocities.org/grammar/vjg/lessons/lesson07.html
https://itazuraneko.neocities.org/grammar/vjg/lessons/lesson63.html

>> No.21463704

>>21463695
no u

>> No.21463709

>>21463667
>>21463674
>>21463704
Never, ever going to make it

>> No.21463713

>>21463709
hmmm

>> No.21463720

>>21463674
>>21463704
>>21463713
Do you think this is some kind of facebook chat?
Fuck off.

>> No.21463724

>>21463720
this really scrambles the egg

>> No.21463730

黙れバカタチ!

>> No.21463745

How long is it until you can guess a meaning of a word without needing to use dictionary?

>> No.21463749

>>21463745
Once japs rework their dumb language.

>> No.21463810

Finally finished Hime's route in lovely x cation 2. It was kind of simple but I think that's what made it enjoyable because I'm still a beginner. Any other recommendations for VNs that include tomboys or tsunderes?

>> No.21463834

おやすみおにいちゃん

もうよるだよ

>> No.21463846

>>21463818
I can guess words all the time because kanji and context but I have to look them up anyways because I don't know the reading ...

>> No.21463853

>>21463834
俺のチンポをしゃぶらない限り
俺をお兄ちゃんと呼ぶ資格がないよ

>> No.21463895

>>21458272
Dear GOD/GODS and/or anyone else who can HELP ME (e.g. MEMBERS OF SUPER-INTELLIGENT ALIEN CIVILIZATIONS):

The next time I wake up, please change my physical form to that of FINN MCMILLAN of SOUTH NEW BRIGHTON at 8 YEARS OLD and keep it that way FOREVER.

I am so sick of this chubby Asian man body!

Thank you!

- CHAUL JHIN KIM (a.k.a. A DESPERATE SOUL)

>> No.21463948
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AAAAHHHHHHH

>> No.21463965

よるきよる

やるきねむみあり

ことりねる

>> No.21463996

>>21463475
>>21463489
are you two trolling

>> No.21464038

Who else has been here since the original OP was posting the daily kanji on /a/?

>> No.21464042

>>21463834
おやすみなさいてすわ

>> No.21464045

>>21463421
Nigga, that's like one of the first kanji readings I learnt.

>> No.21464050

>>21464045
so thats what ur into huh

>> No.21464116

>>21463948
>I originally did Lazy Kanji thinking It'll be alright, however, it wasn't!
lmao

if only matt actually admitted this somewhere other than this single article:
https://massimmersionapproach.com/table-of-contents/miscellaneous/to-those-disillusioned-with-mia/
>lazy kanji doesn’t work
>Khatz’s lazy kanji doesn’t work

>> No.21464128

>>21464038
>been on djt since 2012
>7 years later and he still doesn't know japanese
djt method, dare i say, BTFO

>> No.21464131

>>21464128
More like I open the thread once every 6 months to see if anyone needs help with something so I can feel a sense of superiority.

>> No.21464133

its not a good look for ur product when u have a page on ur product site that is titled to those disillusioned with product lmfao

maybe just stop forcing urself to make shitty content and finish school maybe hit up postgrad and do some research become scholarly and then revisit the idea of thinking u know anything about how to help ppl learn language as opposed to the current state of just cobbling together some kinda suckass frankenstein of resources already available and ur bad opinions lmfao

>>21464128
yah well tahts been the thing thats drawn me to djt from the start

>> No.21464153

can anyone recommend some edgy political commentators in japanese? i've heard that commentary-style videos aren't that popular in japan. i'm looking for something like this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xLGG3t2oOpo

>> No.21464158

>>21463948
I did the same thing. Lazy kanji is like 1/10th the effect of true rtk. True rtk you actually are installing the characters in your brain. Only problem is that it's way harder and lazy kanji at least gets your foot in the door. True rtk to 3k kanji is like an 8 month investment at about 2 hours a day on rough days.

>> No.21464161

>>21463070
>>21463082
>>21463677
>>21463690
>>21463834
>>21463853
>>21463965
>>21463981

>> No.21464163

I mean I never did RTK and can read 3000 Kanji + the 常用 Kanji without the least amount of effort my method is really the best

>> No.21464169

Oh and I mean actually read not just know some fucking english keyword for it lmao

>> No.21464170

>>21464163
>常用
oh so that's the kanji for that word

>> No.21464171

>>21464153
why not just try searching yt with some japanese words pertaining to what ur looknig for lol

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>> No.21464185

get the fCUk outta here u sicko

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games abandoned by djt regulars

>> No.21464192

>>21464153
There aren't actually any Japanese commentators worth listening to
1. because they are practically ants incapable of independent thought fearing nothing more than angering the collective
2. their understanding of the world is very shallow they don't care about exploring any thought to a meaningful degree
3. they just lack the initiative to take youtube seriously and invest effort into producing videos like many westerners do
the Japanese internet is basically a shit hole and there is nothing but disappointment if you are coming from the EOP part of it

>> No.21464195

im gonna fuckin keep playin tobiden dude relax

>> No.21464202

imagine being so pretentious as to think u know the world better than a japanese person cuz u spend all day caught up in the news cycle in mainstream media and social media lmfao

>> No.21464207

imagine being so pretentious as to think u know the world better than a random shitposter on 4chan cuz u spend all day caught up in the shitposting cycle in mainstream 4chan and 4chan media lmfao

>> No.21464212

>>21464202
of course I do
Japanese people are retarded

>> No.21464217

i mean like what u tried to do there but it was just ill timed that wasnt the time or place to force that

>> No.21464229

do you have kids jamal

>> No.21464230

>>21464192
>1. because they are practically ants incapable of independent thought fearing nothing more than angering the collective
>2. their understanding of the world is very shallow they don't care about exploring any thought to a meaningful degree
To be quite honest, I don't think that most conservative or liberal political commentators in America are all that revolutionary in terms of their thoughts, nor do they ever go far beyond the usual party lines' dogma.
What's the point of listening to somebody else's thoughts if, most of the time, any random nigga can come up with an equally good (or terrible) opinion on such matters?
If you wanna read the news, read the news. Absorb only facts. Make your own thoughts up without needing something to spoonfeed you on them.

>> No.21464233

yea

u

>> No.21464235

nah im too young. did you teach them the ways of nihongo

>> No.21464238

>If you wanna read the news, read the news. Absorb only facts.

LOL

>> No.21464239

>>21464192
>2. their understanding of the world is very shallow they don't care about exploring any thought to a meaningful degree
that must explain their lower innovation rate per capita than western countries. they have an IQ that is 3-7 points higher depending on the western european country but it's almost wasted in that sense.

>> No.21464242

Like, all the mental penis jerking aside, japanese youtubers are all kinda lacking desu.
It's 80% vtuber shit and the rest are pretty low effort.
If anyone knows any good ones pls post.

>> No.21464259

>>21464230
they aren't revolutionary because there are no big thinkers and great characters in our world anymore and there will never be again due to environmental factors
I mean we could be great philosophers building on thousands of years of increasingly complex thought but instead we are here shitposting on 4chan burning up our lifetime for that empty dopamine rush (you)s provide us with
while everyone else is debating whether it's moral to let a child decide to cut their dick off lmao
however it's still good to be spoonfed on some basics
because reaching your own conclusions and making your own opinions is pretty hard
humans are better at just listening what someone else has to say and categorizing it into good or bad
and if nobody is saying anything they'll just stay clueless that's what most people are
including Japanese people

>> No.21464267

>>21464259
>I mean we could be great philosophers
No, we couldn't.

>> No.21464269

>due to environmental factors
well that, and also polygenic scores indicate we're going through a dysgenic phase after the industrial revolution.

>> No.21464270

i mean a new "study" says civilization is prolly gonna end around 2050 so fuck it this installment of humanity is over we were all failures we couldnt even figure out how ppl built the pyramids and made all kinda other ancient shit

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21464276

itt rn

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proof that anki is a waste of time!

>> No.21464302

dang thats from 2004

that means djt was dead on arrival from the first post lmfao

>> No.21464306

>>21464295
tl;dr but i'm guessing they didn't compare mostly stories/reading + anki to both.

>> No.21464310

>>21464192
I think it's more that Japan, unlike the West, just hasn't been infected by the mind disease known as "identity politics" yet, so the political landscape there isn't as toxic and divisive, ergo there's not much incentive for all these bickering political commentators to exist.

>> No.21464312

>>21464310
LOL

>> No.21464322

>>21464295
not a single word in there mentions flashcards or spaced repetition
there aren't actually any studies done on long term language acquisition that would give us a clue as to what the best way to learn is because it's too much of a pain to do them and you can't control for all relevant variables
the only thing that we know is that comprehensible input is critical
whether it's best supplemented by srs, more reading, or if input should be ordered in some way, if reading or listening is better
that's all a mystery

>> No.21464334

>>21464242
I personally like きまぐれクック

>> No.21464381

>>21463948
lol at this guy who prob just finished rtk3 and tried to read somethin and went oh shit i dont know japanese i bet its cuz i learned kanji wrong and not cuz i need to read more
>>21464295
15 min input 60 min supplementary activities it really is a study on droning
>>21464322
its more about genkidroning than ankidroning but u can still take somethin away from it
dont overdose

>> No.21464406

>>21464116
Jesus Christ Matt acts like he convinced people to shove rusty nails down their urethra. What kind of useless human being are you that making a few mnemonics hurts you in the deepest depths of your soul?
Doing RTK should be the most easy and painless part of your entire journey.

>> No.21464405

I wager that if you let students work through a story in the form of quiztard cards vs just have them listen to the story the former group will have far better results

>> No.21464415

>>21464306
not anki exactly, but the point of the study was to compare story only to story+traditional vocabulary study, and story alone did better.

>> No.21464417

>>21464406
? RTK is by far the worst aspect of the "journey" because it's not even teaching you japanese, just helping you learn it later.

>> No.21464439

I was watching a documentary fully in Japanese and I forgot it was in Japanese for a few minutes and just fucking understood it have I made it

>> No.21464449

>>21464406
>Doing RTK should be the most easy and painless part of your entire journey.
? have u ever had fun in ur nihongo career

>> No.21464450

>>21464417
You're learning the script, a fundamental part of learning the language. If you convinced yourself that this isn't enough to tickle the EPIC LOOT BOX GET area of your brain that's a you problem.
If there's anything Matt has to apologise for it's telling people to spend a fucking hour a day meditating. Now that's not actually going to help you learn Japanese.

>> No.21464456

>>21464450
>You're learning the script, a fundamental part of learning the language.
something you can do by actually reading, not learning english keywords for individual kanji. that way you can learn something more useful and have fun at the same time!

>> No.21464459

>>21464450
>You're learning the script
You are not.
You are learning to associate the script with English words.
An exercise so asinine it's baffling how all these retards advocate for it.

>> No.21464488

>>21464450
i think u got the lootbox argument backwards cuz counting up the number of kanji uve "learned" in anki is gamification its feelin good about numbers why do u think people add heatmaps and shit so they can see more green on the screen lol

>> No.21464512

>>21464459
You understand that kanji represent concepts, right? It doesn't matter whether you call 氷 こおり, or ice, or ijs, or hielo, or gelo, it's all the same. It all means "the stuff that water turns into when it's cold".
What are kun-readings, if not """asinine""" keywords for Chinese characters?

>> No.21464550

>我も久々に混沌のレクイエムを奏でたくなったわ

how the fuck am i supposed to understand such a nonsensical sentence wtf

>> No.21464556

>>21464512
And what language are you learning, are you learning Kanji to write English with them or Chinese? No?
Then there is no point in it. Besides RTK doesn't just tell you the meaning of a Kanji it goes into a bunch of memory bullshit to force you to associate it with an English keyword a useless skills. Besides a ton of Kanji don't correspond to one clear concept like that and RTK has a ton of bullshit meanings in it and you can't deny that.
You can learn Kanji as you learn the concepts in the language you are learning. That means learning the words as you encounter them and if you want to write you can do that as well all quite easily without RTK.

Most RTK shitters never make it and most people advocating for it are dumbass beginners. Those people are that made it have simply no clue how much of an influence RTK had on them and recommended it just because they did it themselves. But people learning quickly without RTK is proof that it's bullshit.

It is.

>> No.21464564

>>21464550
what's the problem?

>> No.21464571

>>21464556
Why are there so many kun-readings anon? I thought kanji didn't have a clear meaning? What kind of magic did the Japanese use to just stick them to a word they already had?

>> No.21464581

>>21464571
did your brain fry or something lol

>> No.21464589

>tfw ran out of anime near my shitty vocabulary level and now have to stop at literally every sentence to look up 1-3 words if I want to understand anything

>> No.21464599

>>21464581
Please answer the question anon. Why could the Japanese just look at 備 and say "oh that's そな
える"?
Isn't that just an asinine keyword that completely ignores the deep meaning of the character?

>> No.21464604

>>21464599
maybe but when you open a book and see 備える that's what you'll have to deal with so that's what you should learn dumbass what are you even trying to say

>> No.21464611

why not skip the middleman and learn words and ull figure out what kanji mean automatically
ur not gonna realize after a year of reading nihongo u never figured out what 氷 or 道 is lol

>> No.21464612

rtk evangelists get the FUCK out.

>> No.21464616

>>21464611
> learn words and ull figure out what kanji mean automatically
Wtf does this mean

>> No.21464621
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よし!Time for reading!

>> No.21464631

>>21464611
Yeah, but what if you know that こおる and こおりare conceptually related, even though they're spelt with different kanji, or what if you know that かえる means change/to return/frog, even though you don't know how to tell them apart except by their kanji?

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>>21464616
what the fuck do you think retard in many cases there was a non-arbitrary way in which nips applied kanji to words/concepts and you can recognize those patterns if you read more instead of doing rtgay

>> No.21464639

>>21464604
So you've learned that 備 means そなえる, what now? You still don't know what either of those things mean. Might you perhaps consider using an English word to understand its meaning?
You spent like five years conceptualising the world around you, why would you do all of that AGAIN just because "muh english keyword bad"?
Are you going to pay a Japanese couple to wheel you around in a stroller going "look anon-chan! こおり! こおり!"?

>> No.21464647

>>21464639
are you saying spending 3 months learning english words is the same as using a dictionary to understand in context words in the language you are learning
you've lost it

>> No.21464648

>>21464632
Are you saying you should learn words in hiragana? i really don't get it

>> No.21464657

>>21464639
i think anon is suggesting you learn the kanji, reading, and english equivalent at the same time so that you can immediately utilize your knowledge to read instead of learning the kanji and its meaning separate from the reading for hypothetical efficiency gains that will make you wanna gouge your eyes out. though of course there's plenty of frequent beginner words consisting of two kanji that english meanings for individual kanji won't help you with anyway so they're doubly fucking stupid.

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>>21464512
>It doesn't matter whether you call 氷 こおり
It does actually since こおり is an actual Japanese word written using that specific character - 氷(こおり), whereas ice, ijs, hielo, gelo aren't.

By learning 氷 = こおり, you are learning to associate the kanji with an actual Japanese word that it is used to write. This act of learning kanji together with the words they write has actual value and is the method natives employ to learn their script.

>> No.21464676

you can learn kanji the hard way (new words + new kanji) or learn what they mean the easy way (rtk)
rtk is like a permanent boost to your intelligence stat
and it is a gift from nihongo jesus

>> No.21464677

>>21464310
you're really fucking stupid

>> No.21464683

>>21464663
i dont think you have any idea what you are talking about, just like everyone in this thread

i didnt even bother to read past your qoute because its just the same baka gaijin garbage as usual

>> No.21464686

>>21464677
Not an argument.

>> No.21464689

>>21464663
>>21464512
Then why not try to do all three at the same time by using some kind of resource that could teach you all three of them (kanji, at least a few words spelt with those kanji, and their approximate English translations), like the KKLC instead of RTK?

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>>21464683
>I didn't even read your post but let me give you my opinion about what you said in it.

>> No.21464695

>finish RTK
>oh wow the meanings of all the kanji are fresh in my head!
>learning readings alone is ez
>stop RTK reviews
>forget the meaning of various kanji
>learn the english definition of a word using a new kanji whose meaning I don't remember and its reading at the same time fairly easily anyway because I'm not a dumbass

RTK is fucking pointless. Stop shilling this dumb shit.

>> No.21464697

>>21464686
I'm not trying to argue with you because your brain has been so twisted by /pol/ memes and a lack of actual education that your knowledge of the world is permanently warped. All I can do is pity your pathetic brainlet status.

>> No.21464700

>>21464689
more information to memorize for no benefit

>> No.21464708

moe, quiztard hates rtk

>> No.21464711

>>21464631
i dont know what ur tryin to say here why would rtk matter for that
the first one ur gonna guess the first time u realize both words exist
the second one will solve itself when u start gettin used to other words like 帰宅 and 変化
>>21464663
i almost forgot he said that before then goin on to say ull never figure out 氷 and 凍る are related if u dont study kanji
>>21464689
kklc tells u not to do it at the same time btw

>> No.21464714

>>21464697
I'm not from /pol/. From my perspective, all the shit they spout is just right-wing identity politics and just as bad.

>> No.21464718

>>21464714
if you don't participate in identity politics, you lose. that's the sad truth of the matter.

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man i'll never understand this shit.

>> No.21464746

read more

>> No.21464749

変える will be no prob for u if u just https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UtxtSFO6br8

>> No.21464752
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>>21464735
make grammar cards

>> No.21464757

>>21464735
で as in the midsentence だ + も

>> No.21464761

>>21464735
Don't force yourself to understand, just feel it

>> No.21464763

>>21464689
KKLC is extremely shitty due to having multiple keywords, and due to said keywords often not being unique but rather shared across several different kanji. For instance, there are like 6 kanji in KKLC which all have the keyword "Darkness". It's absolutely useless for writing production cards.

Also, I'm pretty sure you aren't supposed to memorize the vocabulary in KKLC. It's only there to show you examples of the kanji meanings in use in Japanese words.

Matt explains some of the other problems with it in his RTK video:
https://youtu.be/TgRte6oSoF8?t=1797

>> No.21464780

>>21464763
Having multiple keywords (from the kodansha kanji dictionary btw) captures the meaning of kanji way better than the arbitrary shit that hack heisig made up. kklc is much more rooted in proper etymology of the radicals, kanji, and their meanings, and has much simpler and more concrete mnemonics too (with the exception of one or two that someone is going to immediately post with some ironic statement involving "lol" or "lmao")

>> No.21464795

>>21464780
if u want to capture the meaning of kanji just learn words theyre used in
kklc and rtk are both shit but if ur gonna make flash cards the best way to do it is 1 short unambiguous prompt to 1 short unambiguous answer
thats why they call em flash cards

>> No.21464801

>>21464780
>>Having multiple keywords (from the kodansha kanji dictionary btw) captures the meaning of kanji way better
Yeah, maybe it does, but the problems that come with those multiple keywords far outweigh any benefits of that.

It's very easy to learn what kanji actually mean as you learn words which use are written with them. RTK's keywords not being terribly accurate at times is a non-issue.

>> No.21464806

which fucking video formats work in voracious? im gonna have a fucking aneurysm from this fucking shit goddamn it

>> No.21464813

>>21464806
idk all videos work 4 me

>> No.21464823

>>21464795
>>21464801
IF I were to go and do one of these systems, I'd do KKLC but to alleviate the keyword problem I'd add some of the vocabulary to the front of the flashcards that have overlapping keywords. So for 聞 (which probably doesn't have overlapping keywords but it's just an example), on the front it would have the keywords HEAR, ask and also vocab with the part the kanji reads in hiragana, so きく and 新ぶん maybe, then the back would have the usual shit along with the full kanji of the vocab examples. But at this point it's just pointless theorycrafting as everyone in this conversation has either done rtk/kklc or progressed to a point where they don't need to do them.

>> No.21464835

*walks in amidst another rtgay vs not free for all*

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vt1dXhUWcCg#t=1275

>> No.21464845

https://youtu.be/CiCWbfjf8Tw?t=10

>> No.21464852

>だもん

>> No.21464876

>>21464724
piss ?

>> No.21464879

>>21464295
just more krashen bs

>> No.21464885

if you're not pissing in jars you're not learning nihobgo

>> No.21464891

>>21460658
who maintains this page? it can't be real

>> No.21464912
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bet u calvins jiggling his joystick around right now

>> No.21464922

>>21462163
Why is this even a meme, you literally just mount it and press next a couple times?

>> No.21464931

>>21464922
Gen z

>> No.21464937

anime with japanese subs feels like a great resource but the problem i have is that i never feel like i'm fully watching what's going on when there's subs.. especially japanese ones since i read japanese slower. doushiyou.

>> No.21464961

Is Calvin proof that
reclusive neets with piss jars are the only ones that can learn japanese?

>> No.21464986

>>21459154
>I'm over here thinking about how I read an entire novel in the morning before getting to work in the afternoon
How? I can't even do that in my native language, how do you go through a 300+ page novel in like two hours?

Am I just dumb or what?

>> No.21464991

penは単数でpensは複数です。

>> No.21464998

>>21464986
He's probably one of these idiots who thinks quantity > quality and skims over most of the book instead of reading it deeply and thinking about stuff.

>> No.21465026

>>21464735
most of that is pretty simple stuff once you learn basic N5 grammar, but good luck finding anyone in this thread that actually can pin a basic sentence together in japanese , all that matters is memorize kanjis apparently

>> No.21465029

>>21465026
watasi wa gei
there. owned

>> No.21465067

>>21465026
watashi wa want to オナニー

>> No.21465087

>>21465026
>good luck finding anyone in this thread that actually can pin a basic sentence together in japanese
ここにそう言うことができる人がかなりいる

>> No.21465103

なんでいつも「ここに日本語の文章が書ける人がいない」とか「日本語が分かる人が一人もいない」とか言いっぱなししてるの?
確かにみんなではないけど、明らかにいるじゃん?ネガティブなのやめてくれ。

>> No.21465114

>>21465026
お尻マンコの中に出して
BTFO

>> No.21465170

>>21465087
>>21465103
it's the logical assumption to make given the state of these threads lol

>> No.21465251

>>21465026
check this out
貴様はゲイでござる

>> No.21465281

鏡張りの窓
what the fuck is this

>> No.21465302

>>21465026
日本語上手ですね

>> No.21465306

>>21464937
if u enjoy it its fine
if not i keep tellin u guys about voiced eroge

>> No.21465325

>>21465026
the last time i pinned a basic sentence together in japanese this happened >>21448903

>> No.21465459

there's someone who moved to japan and taught english, and in order to learn japanese they started a reaction channel where they watched anime and they did it for like 5 years but they never demonstrated how much they knew. but they didn't watch with subtitles

>> No.21465548 [DELETED] 

Can someone try opening this page in Firefox and clicking the "正解表示" buttons and tell me if they work?

https://kanken.jitenon.jp/mondai10/yomi01.html

Sometimes I load the page and they work okay but most of the time they don't do anything. I don't know what the fuck the problem is.

>> No.21465553 [DELETED] 

>>21465548
Nevermind, cleared cache and restarted the browser and it seems to be working properly now.

>> No.21465567

how do you say "wish me luck"?
「私に頑張らせて」?

>> No.21465614

>>21465567
delete that now for ur safety

>> No.21465751
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Yoshi! Kore kara yomu toki desu!

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>> No.21465807

even jamal has descended to frogposting wtf

>> No.21465818

yoshis not a fuckin frog u bone head

>> No.21465825

>>21464763
post your jcat or jlpt score

>> No.21465835

Word of the day: 埴輪 はにわ

>> No.21465848

Stop shitposting.

>> No.21465851

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xC_YFUaSsqs#t=15

>> No.21465898

whens the new tobidora jikkyou update comin out jamal

>> No.21465901

>>21465898
tomorrow

>> No.21465908

good grief

>> No.21465956

nice blog post too bad nobody gives a fuck

>> No.21465963

i do

>> No.21465965

I do, don't listen to losers moe

>> No.21465967

i agree with u anonymous, i also dont care what that retard blogs :)

>> No.21465975

わたしはゲイ

>> No.21465989

who are u again

>> No.21465990

hang yourself *****

>> No.21465993

wow this is how he responds when his feelings get hurt
u insulted me so now i want u to die

>> No.21465997

stop being rude

>> No.21466003

mad moe poppin off

>> No.21466005

you are not smart enough to comprehend one such as me so don't try

>> No.21466008

yes its true, a genius cannot comprehend a brainlet
albert einstein said that and i agree w/ him

>> No.21466016

after 5 years of posting 16 hours a day i will become a prominent figure of /jp/djt

>> No.21466018

its over. joseph of genkistan has won this one

>> No.21466020

basically every1 here is all high iq and then u have mad moe comin in hot with a quotient of 100 lmao

>> No.21466030

my only wish is for jamal to not be so mean to peeps

>> No.21466036

i only beat up the bullies and rude ppl

>> No.21466040

djt will stop at nothing to bring down the dekirus

>> No.21466043

damn sorry i didn't meant to write you in there, I meant moedewd

>> No.21466045

hows about u dekiru urself : )

>> No.21466051

https://streamable.com/w9sup
if u cant understand this without the subs u dont know japanese

>> No.21466055

you know nothing, jon moe

>> No.21466061

>WVWV
Sick trip to be shojiki with ya

>> No.21466062

>>21466051
without the subs is utterly hopeless 4 me its just too fast

>> No.21466078

>>21466061
its shoujiki, baka
but i appreciate the compliment

>> No.21466081

>>21466078
maybe I was speaking a bit fast on the first mora ;^)

>> No.21466086

>>21466081
thats illegal

>> No.21466092

>他力本願
interesting word

>> No.21466093

everyone should delete anki and just get this app
https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/japanese/id290664053?mt=8

>> No.21466099

i like to use へ instead of に

im dabbing on ya'll losers

>> No.21466103

>>21458610
bullshit. the only thing you just demonstrated is that you've never used any dictionary but jmdict, you sad sack of sake lees. Try GG5 or even Chujiten on for size, or God forbid, just about any J-J dictionary, and weep before me, ye meek of the earth

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>>21466093
>This app is only available on the App Store for iOS devices.

>> No.21466115

guys if i made an app that uses machine learning to teach u japanese what would u want it to do

>> No.21466118

>>21466113
往復

>> No.21466119

>>21466113
Hazukashii, I misread the fucking kanji. Thank god it's an anonymous board and I can close the thread and forget about it. Not even gonna dleete the post. Peace.

>> No.21466122

>>21466115
i would want it to suck my dick

>> No.21466125

>>21466107
you peasants don't have iphones?
貧乏大変だねぇ

>> No.21466130

>>21466115
seconding suck my dick

>> No.21466133 [DELETED] 

>>21466125
no but i know plenty of stupid, poor, obese niggers who own iphones

>> No.21466136

>>21466125
otakus dont use iphones

you are literally the definition of a 出来ない if you use one unironically

leave

>> No.21466137

>>21466131
isnt this just actually cuz ur still formulating thoughts in english lol

>> No.21466139

>>21466125
>buying an overpriced shitphone with proprietary software on it

>> No.21466145

geoff genki do u have a hairy chest yes or no
this question is vital to my research

>> No.21466146

>>21466131
thats why you need to stop thinking in english, there's a billion japanese verbs for something that can be described with single verb in english

dont like it, dont learn it, go learn mandarin chinese instead

>> No.21466152

>>21466115
id even pay for it if u can make it suck my dick

>> No.21466155

>>21466145
naturally yes but i get it waxed think like the scene in 40 y.o virgin movie

>> No.21466161

>>21466155
actually fuck it just link the shit

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kuD8sukGLuo#t=10

>> No.21466169

>>21466115
emulate a fully fluent native that will identify each and every mistake you make and correct it while simultaneously acting as a conversation practice partner on any topic both written and in speech.

Better get on it then.

>> No.21466171

>>21466137
>>21466146
lol I don't think in English, I took the JLPT 1 more than 10 years ago (before the N- bullshit) and I've lived and worked in Japan since then. but that's besides the fucking point, how do you expect anyone to stop thinking in English and what fucking good are you expecting that to do if they don't even know what the word actually means? J-J dictionaries have even MORE senses than jmdict/GG5 and they are specifically and by definition for Japanese people you morons

>> No.21466175

>>21466169
not even machines want to talk with you about your lame ass animes anon

>> No.21466177

>>21466171
you're old hahahah

>> No.21466181 [DELETED] 

>>21466133
you're a poor obese nigger? hahahah sucks

>> No.21466185

>>21466177
leave the boomer alone, he's still got it

>> No.21466189

>>21466136
>you are literally the definition of a 出来ない if you use one unironically
lol what kind of retarded rule is that? did you just make that up to feel better about your financial situation?
i know way more japanese than you, and i'm not poor. me - 2 anon - 0

>> No.21466191 [DELETED] 

>>21466181
kys

>> No.21466196

>>21466171
wow I didn't know we resumed back to copying r*ddit posts

>> No.21466198

>>21466139
>pretending a phone sucks just because you're too financially unfortunate to afford it

>> No.21466206

>>21466177
yah I'm old, I'm 1% rich, and I speak Japanese fluently. fuck being a teenager or in your twenties, that shit is overrated

>> No.21466208 [DELETED] 

>>21466191
if you want to kill yourself then that's your prerogative. i recommend therapy though, try to find a therapist that teaches CBT

>> No.21466210

>>21466198
>being this obsessed over a phone

what a sad life you must lead if a phone is a make it or break it for you

>> No.21466212

"i speak japanese"
https://streamable.com/5h81g

>> No.21466213

>>21466198
>he feels the need to signal that he is not completely shitpoor by buying an iphone
lol

>> No.21466214

honestly take it from this boomer smart phones are satan

ur supposed to disconnect when u leave ur house and integrate into the world if only for a short time

>> No.21466217

>>21466206
>yah I'm old, I'm 1% rich
then why aren't you on a yacht somewhere sipping old people beverages and bathing in an epsom salt jacuzzi or something? what the fuck are you doing on DJT LOL

>> No.21466230

>>21466206
ur mum is overrated

get dabbed on you, boomer

>> No.21466236 [DELETED] 

>>21466224
>i have depression and i think saying nigger a lot will solve it but i really just need to take my ass to a therapist ASAP before i kill myself

>> No.21466237

>>21466226
lol xD

>> No.21466242 [DELETED] 

>>21466236
there's nothing special about saying nigger, poorfag

>> No.21466245

>>21466217
If you think more than 1% of the 1% rich have yachts you're pretty far off, but... I don't expect you to believe me but I'm totally unironically right now chilling out in my rooftop apartment in central Milan. I pay more in rent then your entire salary I would guess

>> No.21466249

Stop フンposting at such a フン rate.

>> No.21466258

>>21466247
this humanity has all become zoomer drones

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>>21466245

>> No.21466266

got a red ! but won't read it

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>> No.21466269

>>21466262
this is why I'm happy I grew up in the 80's

>> No.21466279

>>21466269
fuckin same dude

did u know dab backwards is bad lol

>> No.21466299

>>21466279
it's kind of hard to understand what you're trying to convey, but I get that you're doing what constitutes your "best," so what can I say? it's a sad thing, seeing just how far America's youth has receded because of the increasing negrofication of mainstream media. but dab on, son. Dab on.

>> No.21466301

Reminder that if you do RTK, you have a terrible memory.

>> No.21466307

no anti-rtk cultist can write more than 1000 kanji and know what they mean

>> No.21466310

>>21466301
thanks for the reminder, i wouldve forgotten because of my bad memory lol

>> No.21466318

>>21466299
i just think dab is drab and bad the way these kids be sayin it so much right now

>> No.21466321

>>21466307
Sure, but why do you need to write 1000+ kanji from memory? Are you writing japanese academia or some shit?

>> No.21466324

>>21466307
Quizmaster can.

>> No.21466327

>>21466321
if you cant do it then your opinion is discarded

>> No.21466329

>>21466212
>https://streamable.com/5h81g
This video kills me a little each time its brought into the thread

>> No.21466332

people telling people to "stop thinking in English" really live in a totally disconnected anime dream world. that's not something you try to consciously do or work towards, it's something that either happens or don't (if you're a retard), you can't force it. also try giving that idiotic piece of advice to translators and interpreters, who are probably the best language users out there

>> No.21466338

>>21466332
stop whining

the truth is the truth u cant think in english and turn it into japanese thats why both sides suck at the others language

>> No.21466340

>>21466335
there's no point to learning japanese at all and i dont care to convince you why you should learn to write but if you cant do it then stfu about rtk

>> No.21466341

>>21466321
i have N1 and I can basically only write 人犬大 by hand these days... nobody who actually lives in Japan cares about kanji. Sure, I'm moderately humiliated once a month or so when I have dealings with my stone age Japanese bank which asks me to fill out their forms by hand but outside of that, why would anybody give a shit?

>> No.21466344

>>21466341
oh god forbid it actually comes out that ur not a native japanese person it must be so embarrassing lol

>> No.21466345

>>21466342
i know but he said himself he can't write much yet
how do you know he can write over 1000 kanji

>> No.21466349

>>21466340
Okay but RTK is still the gayest way to learn kanji. I like actually learning to be literate rather than making up stories that dont let me read anything.

>> No.21466359

>>21466349
alright you can stay bad forever if you want but i wanna know how to write and read faster and have a permanent intelligence boost

>> No.21466365

>>21466359
That way youll go from an iq of 1 to 2

>> No.21466368

>>21466344
let's put this in terms you, a person who has obviously never lived in Japan, can understand. if you spoke English really well but still had to ask for help when you fill out forms because you're apparently illiterate or something I think that'd be kinda embarrassing... but on the other hand exactly, who gives a shit?

>> No.21466374

>>21466368
Japanese are going to be baffled if you can even fluently read anything. If you handwrite more uncommon Kanji from memory somewhere they'd think you're a weirdo.

>> No.21466375

It's 2019, and people are still defending RTK.
Next you'll tell me you still use FAX machines and Windows 95.

>> No.21466377

>>21466332
just cuz it happens naturally dont mean if u find urself postin questions that dont acknowledge that nihongo aint eigo u shouldnt stop
the negatives in this sentence are to prepare u for nihongo

>> No.21466379

>>21466368
I agree, like obviously everyone would understand, but I imagine it would be a bit akward to ask for help with writing anything (havent been to japan either)

>> No.21466384

>>21466212
What is he even saying at the end? Nikuwasu? am I just a nihongolet that doesnt understand this?

>> No.21466386

>>21466377
Are you having a stroke? I think you're having a stroke.

>> No.21466388

>>21466384
nicholas
yes

>> No.21466389

>>21466368
i cant tell if u missed the point of my post or not whats ur issue

>> No.21466394

>>21466386
i actually cant read that dudes post either wtf

>> No.21466397

>>21466386
>>21466394
i reread it and i didnt fuck up so its on u

>> No.21466398

>>21466375
What would you suggest people to do instead, if they wanted to be able to memorize kanji?

>> No.21466402

>>21466388
Oh so he just was retarded and didnt add the desu. i dont give a shit if its not necessary, he cant pronounce his own fucking name well so he just makes it confusing.

>> No.21466404

>>21466389
you're too young to be on 4ch

>> No.21466412

>>21466398
Not him but do it how they did it in the olden days...

Just use flash cards with the meanings/readings

>> No.21466413

>>21466389
oops, wrong post. no I meant to say yeah I didn't really what you meant so I guessed

>> No.21466415

>>21466412
awful post

>> No.21466416

>>21466402
the real problem is his pitch accent is ass

>> No.21466419

>>21466412
Also read some shit

>> No.21466420

>>21466410
if u want me to rewrite it to be esl friendly just say so

>> No.21466421

If you really want to do RTK be my guest, but just get it over quickly. 2 months at most and then drop that deck like the garbage it is and start learning Japanese instead.

I did RTK at the start of learning because I fell for the AJATT RTK first meme at the time. I actually can't handwrite most Kanji at all any more because I've never fucking done it again and it's a skill that you lose very rapidly if you don't constantly practice, trust me.

>> No.21466429

>>21466416
not this again... you think a person who can't even pronounce his name correctly has to worry about fucking pitch accent?

>> No.21466434

>>21466420
You actually need to learn better english dude. That post was worded completely incoherently and doesnt really seem to have a focus. It would probably be best to split it into two sentences using these things called periods (this thing..........).

>> No.21466435

>>21466420
please

>> No.21466438

>>21466413
it was sarcasm and basically saying its fine to need help with things that u wouldnt be expected to know anyway

>> No.21466445

>>21466397
i read it and it hurt my brain but i see it now

>> No.21466449

>>21466438
ok so I did get what you meant and you must instead have missed the point I was making in my reply which was yeah, it's fine, but if you're a functioning adult who's not in Japan because yay anime but is an actual lifer then getting treated like a semi-retard by middle-aged bank clerks gets kind of old

>> No.21466452

I know for half of you Japanese is this fetish object like for Matt where you somehow decided this will be the one thing in your life where you won't be a complete failure. But you gotta realize the Japanese won't really care about that extra bit of fluency on top if you have literally no other redeeming qualities about you. For most of you the extra time would be better invested in broadedning your skillsets somewhere else than studying pitch accent patterns and kanji handwriting.

>> No.21466457

pitch accent is easy

>> No.21466464

>>21466449
i mean thats the position u put urself in

its all up to u how those interactions go and how let those situations affect u

i mean do u think random folks like having big obnoxious whitey walk up and ask for directions lol its the same shit regardless of what context it falls under which is that people are miserable sacks of shit and thats universal to everywhere except japan is also the saddest country in the world but they wear the smile anyway

>> No.21466465

>>21466452
-It took me 5 years of hard grinding, but on a good day I can kinda sound something approximating a native. Obviously when it comes to vocabulary and shit, I'm still ways behind an actual native speaker, but...
-OK, cool, thanks for applying for this job. What other skills do you have though?
-No you misunderstand, that's it, my Japanese pitch accent is pretty good

>> No.21466466

>>21466464
and I'm literally saying who gives a shit

>> No.21466470

>>21466466
right just let it roll off ur back human interactions are a huge ugly mess who cares

>> No.21466472

>>21466468
https://streamable.com/jer6e

>> No.21466473

>>21466434
i did look at it before postin and thought lol whatd i write
but i stand by it bein coherent if u go through it carefully
with less negativity
even if it happens naturally
u should still stop if u find urself postin questions that dont acknowledge the fact that nihongo aint eigo

>> No.21466474

https://streamable.com/k25sk

>> No.21466477

>>21466468
yeah no
I wish but no, definitely no

>> No.21466478

>>21466473
dont defend it just let it be

when u create a piece of art u cant day1 patch it it just is what it is

>> No.21466479

>>21466465
I mean I'm just telling it how it is. Even if you don't explicitly want to work in Japan and just visit the Japanese will still care a lot about your occupation and what you're doing professionally. Most of them define themselves through their profession and nothing else after all.

And if people are going to say they don't want to talk to Japanese people anyways then why give a flying shit about any of this pitch accent and handwriting at all? If you're just in it for the content you obviously don't need to care about any of this.

I guess there's still a subset of people who just do it because they hope to some day impress some other internet loser but that's the saddest fucking goal I've ever seen.

>> No.21466482

>>21466465
he should have mentioned how he actually *thinks in Japanese* too lol

>> No.21466486

imagining some djter whos watched all the dogen and matt vids goin thru existential crisis right now trying to figure out what the point of anything in life is lmao

>> No.21466493

also ill demystify the thinking in japanese thing

its not that u think in japanese but u react in japanese

thats how it strikes me personally at least when i examine how it works

if i sit there any intentionally have a conversation with myself in my head in japanese i feel really fuckin gay

>> No.21466494

>>21466478
it aint for me to tell u how to interpret the art u right

>> No.21466500

>>21466493
you are gay

>> No.21466504

>>21466493
but 私はゲイ ?

>> No.21466506

>>21466493
can we just drop this bullshit? it doesn't need "de-mystifying", it needs to be forgotten about and laughed and ridiculed whenever brough up by a clueless newbie

>> No.21466510

>>21466479
>I guess there's still a subset of people who just do it because they hope to some day impress some other internet loser but that's the saddest fucking goal I've ever seen.

90% of DJT

>> No.21466513

hey u djt 90%ers

keep doin what ur doin and impress me someday

>> No.21466515

>>21466510
The other 10% just want to watch anime/read manga (including me)

>> No.21466516

I know nothing that I post about this whole obsessive perfectionism thing is going to reach the retards to deeply entrenched up their own ass that they wouldn't know if it's day or night outside, but I can at least hope that some beginner that lurks in this thread thinks about this shit before falling into the same trap.

>> No.21466521

>>21466510
lol jk it's 90% eroge 10% matt and dogen

>> No.21466527

>>21466516
if they're in this thread already, I'd abandon all hope. this is jp

>> No.21466528

theres no way the eroge boys make 90%

>> No.21466533

>>21466526
is this a meme? not falling for this shit again. if it's not a meme, serious question, how much time have you spent in Japan?

>> No.21466539

>>21466528
you don't think? how'd you break it down then? actually curious, not being an asshole

>> No.21466540

>>21466533
im the middle ground (basement dweller who cares about pitch accent)

>> No.21466554

>>21466479
yea i'm guessing there's a huge group of people trying to improve their pitch accent who have no plans on speaking with japanese people.

>> No.21466562

when yoga first went to japan after 2 years of studying japanese he said he forced himself to only think and speak in japanese and it worked well for him. and he's got his own patreon and stuff so his experience seems more valid than that of anonymous nobodies who have nothing to lose by spewing random shit.

>> No.21466563

>>21466516
at the end of the day either itiban tuyoi gaijin ni nawitai or nah
>>21466539
6 months ago seemed like i was the only kid in the erogebu
djt is in a better place now but it hasnt gone that far
i aint gonna try to estimate though

>> No.21466567

my 2 year mark is coming up better start my patreon

>> No.21466568

>>21466562
>and he's got his own patreon and stuff
This is the measure of success in life for the average DJTer lmao.

>> No.21466572

heres what uve never realized

to us ppl who secretly wanna gatekeep every1 from learning japanese so they can never enjoy the things we do guys like matt and yoga are our greatest asset

>> No.21466573

>>21466540
that's not the middle ground, that's an apt description of people who care about pitch accents. ok I exaggerate, but normal people don't consciously study it but still get by perfectly fine. but idk, maybe I'm wrong, maybe in 10 years people like me will be amazed by how good kids learning Japanese in the West sound, just like the boomers who came to Japan in their 20's or 30's and somehow managed to live their entire lives here without learning anything but a couple of words of Japanese were amazed when they heard us gen X & Y-ers actually speak Japanese, which they had assumed was just impossible

>> No.21466579

>>21466568
making money sitting at home shitting out pointless videos is far more successful than 99% of the people who visit this site.

>> No.21466580

>>21466562
>and he's got his own patreon and stuff so his experience seems more valid than that of anonymous nobodies who have nothing to lose by spewing random shit.
sweet summer child

>> No.21466583

>>21466562
did u see yoga try to bully nuke and accidentally fuckin die
patreon dont mean shit if ur audience cant tell that ur bad
keep sayin maa maa chotto nanka maa to dominate the conversation and ur gonna get worshipped

>> No.21466588

>>21466579
i get paid while im posting on djt get fizzityucked my ninja

>> No.21466591

>>21466573
why do people get so pissed about others not wanting to sound like shit when speaking a different language? i don't make excuses for ESLs with heavy ugly accents so why would i do the same for people learning japanese.

it just boggles my mind. normally if you didn't think it mattered you wouldn't even post about it. there has to be some sort of sense of inferiority people feel about not learning it.

>> No.21466595

cant believe u all bit on this shit tho lol >>21466562

>>21466591
cuz u always will

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7_pJDpMd95g#t=181

>> No.21466596

>>21466591
Because other people throw a temper tantrum when someone doesnt want to waste time on a skill theyll never need

>> No.21466612

>>21466591
Hey, more power to you if you can pull off a convincing Japanese accent but proclaiming that pitch accent is the end-all and something only basement-dwellers don't care about is retarded and this single-minded level of obsession with it is why people tend to assume you guys going on about it are complete retards. but sure I can say I maybe kinda wish I'd been slightly more conscious of it when I began but then again I live in Kansai so it's Bizarro-world anyway

>> No.21466615

>>21466562
Is this post ironic?

>> No.21466616

fact: ESLs with shitty retard accents are perceived as dumber by the recipient. the recipient will subconsciously speak to them slower, like a child, and omit saying anything they think might be too hard for the tard to understand
this is all for fun and you can get good if you want but imagine if you tried to get good at apehoop and someone told you not to learn how to make goals cuz ape hoop is a useless skill

>> No.21466621

>>21466596
>Because other people throw a temper tantrum
it's usually people who hate pitch accent who start insulting people and making a stink about it. it happened in this thread actually. the only time i've seen the opposite is when it's obvious bait.

>>21466612
>proclaiming that pitch accent is the end-all
>single-minded level of obsession with it
what are you talking about? who did this? who even implied this? i personally don't care about pitch accent either and have no plans on learning it, much less talking with natives. i just find the hatred of it bizarre and the only explanation that makes sense to me is the sense of inferiority people feel about not learning it.

>> No.21466623

is talking out loud to urself in ur bedroom a sport

>> No.21466626

>>21466616
Then just talk to japenese friends and ask them to help with accent.

Oh wait, this DJT. Sorry for assuming you had friends.

>> No.21466628

>>21466616
it's not the accents that make them sound stupid, stupid, it's their vocabulary and grammar being screwed up. Listen to German Nobel laureates giving interviews in English and they sound smart as fuck even though their accents are 120% Nationalsocialismus

>> No.21466635

>>21466621
>what are you talking about? who did this? who even implied this?
at the very beginning of this very conversation, scroll up and figure out where this started you droll creature

>> No.21466636

>>21466628
>and they sound smart as fuck
when their accents are so thick that it renders some of what they say incomprehensible, no.

>> No.21466641

>>21466616
Ken Watanabe has the thickest accent but he doesn't sound the least bit stupid when he reads his lines in English (that obviously other people have written for him), he sounds bad-ass
hence your theory has been disproven and should never be brought up again

>> No.21466644

>>21466635
i scrolled up and didn't see any posts implying that pitch is the "end-all" or that you should have a "single-minded obsession" with it.

>> No.21466645

>>21466641
who

>> No.21466647

>>21466636
クールな物語 bruh

>> No.21466659

Reminder that Stalin's Russian accent was terrible.

>> No.21466660

>>21466645
I'm sorry, downright silly of me to assume you might have heard of Japan's most famous currently living actor - he's neither a YouTuber nor does he have a Patreon

>> No.21466663

>>21466660
based

>> No.21466665

>>21466659
Fucking gordies eh

>> No.21466667

>>21466660
not everyone cares about celebs kid

>> No.21466672

>>21466621
>the only explanation that makes sense to me is the sense of inferiority people feel about not learning it.
lol
why are u worked up about the general consensus of shitposters who on average cant understand this with subs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IRCm9Km74yA

>> No.21466675

>>21466667
knowing who Ken Watanabe is > caring about celebs > proclaiming you don't care about celebs as if that makes you special > proclaiming you don't care about celebs while knowing exactly who Matt and Dogen are

>> No.21466681
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>>21466672
idk it's a weird sentiment i've seen for months so i finally posted about it

>> No.21466682

boomers are on fire today. zoomers might as well retreat and wait until the next thread for a counterattack

>> No.21466683

>>21466672
stop posting your gay oriental cartoons. can you understand this without subs?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3xuoWmUuNkI

>> No.21466686

>>21466675
this but the opposite

>> No.21466692

>>21466681
what does this mean desu

>> No.21466697

>>21466686
this but the opposite

>> No.21466699

>>21466683
does anyone watch this that isnt in the cult

>> No.21466708

>>21466699
it's a cult every Japanese girl in her teens, twenties or thirties is in. sign me the f up

>> No.21466719

yamasato is the best part of TH how do you not watch his special segment?

>> No.21466734

fuck netflix

>> No.21466735

Any browser addons that can convert to or insert romaji? I vaguely remember an addon doing this, but now I can only find ones for furigana. I used j-talk for a while, but they have a relatively low character limit now, locking full usage behind a subscription. I understand it'd be a bit like training wheels, but my priority at the moment is just to get through some reading material and figured this thread would be as good a place as any to ask.

>> No.21466739

>>21466667
if you don't care about celebs (and don't even know who the fuck Ken Watanabe is) then you're gonna have a hard time carrying much of a regular conversation beyond 私ニクワス!!日本語大好きニクワス!! with most human being in Japan, esp. girls. but that's cool maybe I'm wrong and you're just the type who seeks out other intellectuals and converse on a deeper level about stuff like idk your favorite oriental cartoon or the voice actresses in it, I mean, anything is possible

>> No.21466741

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1CP-S4RD45s
i love this guy

>>21466734
what's wrong with netflix? (no meme answers allowed)

>> No.21466749
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>>21466735
>romaji
>to get through some reading material

>> No.21466751

>>21466739
well you can keep thinking about your hypothetical discussions with hypothetical people about celebs and ill just learn japanese

>> No.21466752

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ynDj1owczE#t=46

>> No.21466756

>>21466735
>it'd be a bit like training wheels

>> No.21466758

>>21466751
no see i'm the boomer who actually lives in Japan, you're the hypothetical in this equation

>> No.21466761

>>21466735
once you learn the hiragana you won't need the romaji anymore.

Just go and cram kana. after a week you won't need any romaji to read.

>> No.21466766

imagine being a boomer in japan right now talkin mad shit in a djt thread at 8 oclock in the morning lmfao

>> No.21466767

>>21466758
sou ka
boku no make desu

>> No.21466770

>>21466766
he's more successful than u

>> No.21466778

>>21466766
yeah but if you followed the thread you'd know I'm actually in my penthouse apartment in Milan right now where it's 1:20 am

>> No.21466781

>>21466770
idk dude i wouldnt wanna be anyone else but me so i aint worried about other ppls metrics

>> No.21466790

>>21466767
そうかニクワス!!やっとわかってくれたんだニクワス!!!なんだよ胸キュンしちゃったじゃないかニクワス!!

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21466794

>>21466778
oh

>> No.21466801

>>21466794
チンウータンカス

>> No.21466803

imagine tryin to brag about ur life while shitposting in djt instead of just lettin this resonate through ur bones https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ruuwT6v4tPc&t=85

>> No.21466805

fuck youtube

>> No.21466806
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21466806

Next Atelier is looking good

>> No.21466812

>>21466790
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HR1EoGNJWNM#t=4258

>> No.21466820

>>21466803
wow thats the worst thing ive heard all day

its great

>> No.21466821

>>21466735
What is it with people from reddit coming over to repost their exact question here when it was already answered? I saw your post and everyone already told you that you should just learn the kana since theyre not that hard.

>> No.21466824

>>21466821
it's called covering your bases

>> No.21466825

>>21466821
lol

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>> No.21466833

>>21466812
pretty fly for a ホワイトソース

>> No.21466837
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21466837

>>21466820

>> No.21466838

>>21466827
pitchlets btfo

>> No.21466843

>>21466824
No, covering your bases is for opinions and stats. Getting an objectively correct answer should only take one forum. I get that you should fact check and shit, but this is not one of those times where that would be necessary at all. At this point, hes just wasting more time than he already would be by posting in shitty forums like r/learnjapanese and now DJT looking for an answer that he will probably never find.

>> No.21466845

>>21466827
whose video did he comment on?

>> No.21466851

If I study pitch accent can I learn to talk like this?

https://youtu.be/_2p3_kdqk9Y?t=290

>> No.21466853

>>21466843
i find it amusing that actually believe that it was the same guy posting it here and on reddit

>> No.21466858

>>21466853
*that you

>> No.21466863

>>21466853
Well it was worded exactly the same, so unless some guy is trolling this thread by copypasting a brainlets question, it could only be the same guy

>> No.21466866

おはようございますたぜ

>> No.21466867

>>21466863
that happens every day

>> No.21466870

>>21466863
>so unless some guy is trolling this thread by copypasting a brainlets question, it could only be the same guy
how new are you
reposting retarded reddit posts is tradition here

>> No.21466876

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e0yuB6NOAkc

>> No.21466878

>>21466870
Fuck this thread holy shit bringing in normie shit just to fuck with us whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy

>> No.21466884

imagine thinking anyone here is serious and getting triggered lol

>> No.21466887

>>21466876
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N9k9v1_MxgU&t=51

>> No.21466889

>>21466866
おはようございますダゼ!!元気よくダゼ!!

>> No.21466900

>>21466884
imagine imagining that
#ダゼ

>> No.21466901

>>21466515
Manga is not reading though.

>> No.21466907

>>21466901
shoot yourself in the brain

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21466911

>>21466905

>> No.21466913

>>21466905
I was already happy before but yeah I'm still happy now thanks for asking.

>> No.21466915

someone please respond to this post >>21466851 i put a lot of time into it thanks in advance

>> No.21466924

>>21466915
oh uh no studying pitch accent wont enable u to do that

u have to acquire japanese for that

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_bqokzaAdnY#t=242

>> No.21466926

>>21466901
日本語 is not reading
that's just your eyes, feeding you meaningless external stimuli
It happens in your brain or it doesn't happen at all
Do you 日本語 in your brain?
Do you 日本語 when you sleep?
If you don't, how can you claim to have ever *read* 日本語?

>> No.21466929

hard to say i didnt even *read* ur post

>> No.21466936

do u nihongo on the train
do u nihongo while u pee

>> No.21466937

>>21466924
thanks for the reply i can always count on you

>> No.21466938

where's my (you) you fucker

>> No.21466940

>>21466938
hey

>> No.21466947

nihon go fuck urself

>> No.21466959

no more free (you)'s you must 空気読む

>> No.21466966

万歳,万歳,万歳,万歳,万歳

>> No.21466981

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-vkPerIYzo8#t=84

>> No.21466986
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hypothetically what happens when you go to nihongo and they notice your shitty pitch accent and try to speak to you in eigo and you say eigo wakaran thereby forcing them to speak to you in nihon

>> No.21466992

if u can carry a convo it doesnt matter

if u cant convo ends

>> No.21466993

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4B9aC995HDI

>> No.21467000

>>21466986
u wont get a chance when this happens
https://vocaroo.com/i/s0pH05ESKwRt

>> No.21467038

>>21467004
tobako bragging, that's a first. gangsta song though

>> No.21467045

japan loves cigarettes and cancer so

>> No.21467054

>>21467038
they get life in prison for weed so they don't have a choice

>> No.21467078

nah they still rap about weed while they take fat drags off pens lmao

>> No.21467080

btw literally all of my favorite rap heroes have completely disappeared forever after getting caught trafficking weed

like if they execute u on the spot for a single spliff imagine what they do to the guys bringing weed into the country lmfao

>> No.21467112

that's probably why miyaji stays in the states, smoke weed everyday

>> No.21467123

>click on a japanese gaming video
>はい、 どうも皆様、今晩は。
Feels great every time.

>> No.21467125

>>21467123
post some good ones please i need bgm

>> No.21467135

>>21467125
I don't "know" any good ones, I just watch what I find in the moment.
There's tons on youtube, just search for a video game you like followed by 実況 for live commentary.

>> No.21467154

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tUWhf9ndnPE

>> No.21467156

tfw u have a handful of top tier jp streamers who are entertaining as hell and u dont share them with anybody

>> No.21467164

>>21467154
haha didnt read any of these just put em straight on the wall (after literally putting the manga in the microwave first) oh and check out my eva wallscroll lmfao fuckin davido crew represent

>> No.21467166

i just wanna find a god damn gook who argues with conviction about a politically incorrect but likely true topic.

>> No.21467168

tho to be fair i think putting up a eva wallscroll in 2019 is pretty ftw like i cant really argue w. that it takes me back to the good old days

>> No.21467172

>>21467154
This video says there's "2 comments" but only one comment appears, so if one of you tried to comment then you might be shadowbanned. Or it might just be a word filter.

>> No.21467173

>>21467166
Honestly no one here but you fucking cares about that gay ass shit.

>> No.21467176

>>21467166
look im not gonna do ur work for u but i will give u this oldie but goodie that should be right up ur alley

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B0Qa9-KiRUo

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For a few days I set the new cards/day to 0, because I wanted to just focus on grammar for a bit but didn't want to forget any of the words I learned. I want to learn more words again. Is there a way to set Anki back to normal and make it so I have to review cards again? I see review settings in the deck options but I don't know what I should change.

>> No.21467178

>>21467173
yea of course but i didn't say i expected anything from a group of retards.

>> No.21467187

>>21467154
how many of these did he read
https://streamable.com/x0vaf

>> No.21467191

>>21467173
I would like something like that as well actually
Jap Youtube needs to step it up

>> No.21467204

>>21467187
none because manga isn't reading

>> No.21467219

>>21467177
there's a setting for new cards per day and max reviews per day in the deck options, not sure what else to tell you

>> No.21467324

>>21467204
kys

>> No.21467335

how long does it take to learn this language so i can write a letter to my favorite seiyuu telling them they were my inspiration

>> No.21467337

上手すぎ
is that jouzusugi or umasugi?

>> No.21467342

>>21467335
just a few decades

>> No.21467345

>>21467337
yomichan confirms the latter

>> No.21467357

2 years deep, at what point will i be able to finish a VN in the time vndb says it will take?

>> No.21467358

>>21467335
if that's your motivation just get a translator

>> No.21467360

>>21467345
Ya i know, but when I google both I get 50x as many returns on jouzusugi, also google read it as jouzusugi, so I'm thinking yomi is wrong this time.

>> No.21467362

>>21467360
yomichan was made by a really smart guy so i'd trust it if i were you

>> No.21467367

I made a little bday doodle for a JP artist I enjoy. What's some stuff I should put on there? From what I've occasionally seen on pixiv I see people just put like
>HBD @user! +today's date
Would that be enough? Should I write out Happy Birthday in Japanese? I'm not confident in my ability to do that yet, I don't want to fuck up the grammar by accidentally putting something in the wrong order or something.

>> No.21467374

>>21467357
when you know 99% of the word usage without looking anything up. I think you need about 30k high frequency words. (I'm almost halfway there, yay)

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21467378

What's your favorite part about learning nihongo? Mine are the doujins.

>> No.21467385

>>21458272
Is it customary to master hiragana before moving on? I'm able to memorize about half of the characters, but some are too identical.

>> No.21467395

its customary to master hiragana right fucking now

>> No.21467401

>>21467385
read shit and ull stop making mistakes

>> No.21467405

>>21467402
THIS

>> No.21467408

i still haven't fuckin mastered katakana and have picked up like 80% of them through seeing katakana enough times while reading.

>> No.21467415

>>21467401
>read shit
I actually forgot about that part. I've only been learning the characters individually by writing it down and flash cards and stuff. Thanks for the suggestion.

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>>21467408
thats fine ull eventually be able to read this no problem if u just keep seein em

>> No.21467445

>>21467360
https://hinative.com/ja/questions/6717831

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>>21458274
if u wanna see some real puppies take a look at these

>> No.21467468

>>21467456
paizuri ur whole body

>> No.21467472

>>21467445
arigatou nakama

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>> No.21467490

>>21467484
u know its all over for u when the game starts directly blowing u out

>> No.21467506

start a manga wall

>> No.21467510

>>21467507
凄いだよ

>> No.21467557

why is japanese the only asian language that sounds cool?

>> No.21467561

>>21467367
"誕生日おめでとう、[artist name]さん/先生!"would be just fine.

>> No.21467573

>>21467557
Turkish and Indonesian don't sound too bad, in my opinion. Unfortunately, I don't really care for media from those countries to be willing to learn them.

>> No.21467575

>>21467507
>範囲
am i deaf or what? in yomichan the woman pronounces it like "high-ee".

>> No.21467588

>>21467575
zenging

>> No.21467591

>>21467557
Cuz its a bing bong ching chong language without actually being one

>> No.21467596

>>21467575
you just don't know how N's work yet, watch some dogen

>> No.21467624

Why does Dogen sound like middle aged man when speaking Japanese, but like a fag when speaking English?

>> No.21467633

>>21467557
more literary japanese can sound good as hell but regular normal japanese honestly just sounds like savage monkeys grunts

>> No.21467634

>>21467633
not true at all bitch trust me it sounds badass as hell 24/7 and no other asian language comes close

>> No.21467637

>>21467624
prolly to not scare the natives when he's speaking eigo

>> No.21467639

i guess all japanese sounds good as hell if spoken by norio wakamoto tho lol

>> No.21467641

remembering that part in rewrite where kotori does norio wakamoto impressions and its good as hell lmfao

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21467646

i would have learned japanese by now if they had more movies like this one i can learn japanese from

>> No.21467654

women speaking japanese is my fetish

>> No.21467663

>>21467654
dont worry ur not alone its actually a big problem that causes ppl to interpret japanese wrong and firmly root themselves in nihongo fantasy (fetish) land

>> No.21467673

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a1VC5Wsb_2k
yakuza and samurai sound the coolest though

>> No.21467691

>>21467663
whats this about interpret its just like being into an accent

>> No.21467699

>>21467561
Thank you anon!

>> No.21467793

>>21467456
those are some serious badonkadonks

>> No.21467855

日本語はむずかしい

>> No.21467861

誰も日本語を使う資格を持ってない

>> No.21467871

>>21458272
whats the most cards youve mined in a single day? for me it's 80

>> No.21467873

DJTで日本語を学ぶと、それは当たり前
>>21467855

>> No.21467876

420 for me

>> No.21467884

>>21467876
ブラーズ イット

>> No.21467893

Tfw you guesses the original meaning of 業病 but it means something else today.

>> No.21467894

>>21467871
wrote 100 rtk stories in a day
mining maybe 30

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21467913

世界一強ゐ外人

>> No.21467918

>>21467913
生涯一度モ負ケナカッタ巨匠

>> No.21467919

>>21467913
more handsome and normal weight than djt desu lol

>> No.21467925

>>21467919
角度二ダマサれたレオタード

>> No.21467939

>>21467884
Shouldn't it be "もえです"?

>> No.21467941

>>21467913
he is like the embodiment of the 56% face
what an ugly motherfucker

>> No.21468106

おはようおにいちゃん

おしおある?

>> No.21468122

>>21468106
おしおって何のこと?塩か?
塩ならこのチンコがいい塩の味をするよ
舐めてみるか

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>> No.21468185

Forget Matt
Forget Dolly
Forget George
Forget VJG
This is it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yrQPlY3KkG4

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