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>> No.21320845

All hail Quizmaster

>> No.21320849

>>21320845
this

>> No.21320850

those peaceful days were nice while they lasted

>> No.21320874

Operating on a dead man you are fooling nobody but yourself.

>> No.21320890

>>21319339
i remember when this was me 2 or so years ago
now, as of today i've cleared 15% of a text-heavy jrpg in about 10 hours, reading everything (literally every single dialogue and menu item)! so yeah, it gets better

>> No.21320896

a cat is fine too...

>> No.21320911

Has there ever been a more based user in the history of /djt/ than moedork?

I think not.

>> No.21320912

Q. (質問) 日本人が読める漢字の限界は?

A. いやいや、もっとも難しいのは地名だと思うよ。
大角豆=ささぎ
これは読めないよね?漢字そのものは小学生でも読めるけど「だいかくまめ」としか言いようがない。
ウィキによると大阪や埼玉も難読地名らしい。
たしかに言われてみればそうだよね。

じゃあ韓国人の漢字を勉強している人に出題。
オウム事件で少しは有名になったけど「烏山」は読めるかな?日本人でも読めない人はいるけど難易度は低い。
Is this retardation an issue in Chinese as well? Kanji abolition when?

>> No.21320928

>>21320912
Japanese people not being able to read place names truly is a bit bizarre. I could actually see some kind of reform in regards to that but who knows.

But honestly the average Japanese person is seemingly barely capable of reading in the first place. Besides the Kizuna Ai Kanji quiz video linked yesterday, you can also see her struggling with text in the video games she plays on her gaming channel. It's pretty laughable.

>> No.21320939

I remember in highschool, here in the states, when we had to read aloud, people would often mispronounce words even in my upper level classes. I would remember being like "dude that word is pretty common how are you mispronouncing it."
in summation reading is hard and people are retarded.

>> No.21320940

>>21320874
fuck off stop posting you're wasting your time and you're shitting up the thread, go the fuck to bed

>> No.21320942

>>21320940
I just woke up.

>> No.21320945

what changes do you want to see in the nihongo revamp?

>> No.21320969

banning all gaijins except for me

>> No.21320980

>>21320945
nihongo v2.0 all gaijin can now read nihongo, magically

>> No.21320991
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21320991

休憩を一か月取った
日本のゲームを続けています

>> No.21320999

>>21320991
きゅうけいは1じかんより

みじかいときつかう

ながいときは休暇をつかう

ふるくは御暇ともいう

ゲームいがいになにするの

>> No.21321003

why is it so easy to find a translation of ユメミルクスリ and so hard to find the original

>> No.21321032

>>21320999
なるほどう
休みを使っていいですか

>> No.21321060

>>21320939
Work a job where members of the public have to fill out forms with clear and specific instructions and you'll realize at least 20% of people are functionally illiterate. They literally can't comprehend a long and complex sentence with a couple of uncommon words.

>> No.21321064

>>21320999
ゲームいがいにアンキをまたし始めました

>> No.21321076
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21321076

reminder that マット accomplished absolutely nothing but learn japanese in his last 7 years of existance, his meaningless degree was free because of it too.
Let that sink in, 7 fucking years... without accomplishing ANYTHING but japanese.
Literally only fit for some garbage english teacher job or stinky patreon business.

>> No.21321080

>>21321076
>his meaningless degree was free because of it too.
he dropped out

>> No.21321120

I just had 30 Anki cards leeches today, I'm not going to make it, I can't memorize kanji bros

>> No.21321122

>>21321120
slow down.

>> No.21321125

all rtk tards get btfo when doing it before vocab lmao dekinais never learn

>> No.21321128

>>21321120
have u tried reading

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>>21320837

>> No.21321140
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21321140

I'm having a hard time with particles and I feel Imabi's autistic explanation for every use they have's helping me. Will I fuck myself over if I try to read it?

>> No.21321144

>>21321140
What are you having problems with?

>> No.21321151

>>21321076
mato doesn't even know your name or that you exist, and you're obsessed with him, probably out of jealousy.

>> No.21321156

>>21321144
Most particles. When it comes to those besides は、が and を Tae Kim's explanations feel very vague.

>> No.21321158

>>21321140
Imabi is a lot better than Tae Kim (who gets a ton of shit for having oversimplified explanations and bad unnatural sentences).
You won't fuck yourself reading it because it's really hard to learn a language the wrong way, everything that sticks sticks due to seeing it a ton of times in your input. Reading a grammar guide is just a primer to pick it up more easily so go ahead but make sure to eat your anime.
Most mistakes people make in their production are due to having to just make shit up because of lack of input.

>> No.21321159

>>21321140
ur fine if u spend way more time reading nihongo than doing other shit like that
explanations can def help u out but u also gotta learn to accept that ur gonna suck for a long time and nothin is as important as reading more
double checking shit u run into while reading is better than tryin to prepare urself in advance

>> No.21321182

>>21321140
imabi is so hard to read as an absolute beginner that it'll make you give up on learning japanese. drop it

>> No.21321184

>>21321182
Really only the first few chapters are hard, for which you might need to have a bit of a linguistic background to really understand but it's alright when he actually gets into the Japanese.

>> No.21321197

>>21321156
I felt like tae kim explanations were pretty good. I suggest doing some sentence building exercises on something like duolingo or with a textbook of your choice.
Just reading while you're unsure about the exact meaning doesn't help much when you're trying to parse complex sentences.
You could also just try writing sentences and having people correct you.

>> No.21321205

lol why do japs call their moms "o bag"?? seems kinda rude 2 me

>> No.21321237

>>21321184
no it's pretty bad throughout unless you already understand what he's saying in which case no point

>> No.21321246

wtf is the 和語 of ゲーム? 遊び?

>> No.21321258
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>>21321246
遊戯

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>>21321258

>> No.21321296

washijan

>> No.21321300

You aren't her

>> No.21321304

Can someone explain how そのまま is used? The definition of "just like that" or "the way it is" don't make too much sense to me.

>> No.21321313

>>21321304
watch the freaky gay androids video about it duh

>> No.21321315

>>21321313
No his voice annoys the fuck out of me

>> No.21321348

>>21321122
I'm already moving slowly
>>21321128
I don't have a grasp on vocab at all

>> No.21321357

learning nihongo and doing nofap at the same time is impossible

>> No.21321359

>>21321304
I got just the anime card for you:
https://streamable.com/blzwz

>> No.21321363

>>21321357
based

>> No.21321370

>>21321357
I combined them both into nohongo. Now I can sit and browse djt guilt free.

>> No.21321433

I wish there was a pokemon names deck that explained the stupid puns. They're flying over my head.

>> No.21321475

>random nip girl likes my 3 year old post on twitter
see you later nerds

>> No.21321489

>I spent 2 hours watching one episode of anime because of all the mining I was doing

no ragrets, these are all essential vocab.

>> No.21321545

>learning japanese to fap to raws
>no time to fap because i'm learning japanese

キャッチ 二十二ね。。。

>> No.21321565

I'm trying to purchase copies of 氷と炎の歌 to read but the cheap sellers won't ship overseas.... Fucking A, I'm not ready to lay down $30 for one volume.

>> No.21321630

>>21321060
>at least 20% of people are functionally illiterate.
Considering a normal bell curve this should surprise exactly no one.

>> No.21321635

>>21321076
It's pretty shit desu.
Does he even still go to school for computer science? I know he was low key bragging about it some time ago, but maybe he thinks getting shit tier patreon money is enough to get him through the rest of his life.

>> No.21321638

>>21321635
>Does he even still go to school for computer science

no, he didn't tell the native about it at least when he asked what he did.

>> No.21321642

Imagine a world in which nobody had ever introduced Matt and all the people who talk about him 24/7 to /jp/.

>> No.21321647

What the fuck dialect does Sharon in Magical Charming speak?

>> No.21321648

imagine being matt literally the jesus of nihongo

>> No.21321655

>>21321642
Direct your anger at this guy:
>>/jp/thread/S17295476#p17307821

>> No.21321658

God, vns are so fucking annoying to install, holy shit I want to blow my brains out.

>> No.21321659

>>21321647
http://www.lumpofsugar.co.jp/product/magicha/character/chara06.php

>> No.21321660
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>>21321647
>magical charming
based which route are you going for

>> No.21321663

>>21321658
that's less annoying than trying to get the right video file for subtitles/vice versa desu

>> No.21321667

>>21321663
That's what makes it even more annoying. It's the alternative to not being able to find the right subtitles for a show I wanted to mine. I might get burned out trying to download these stupid pieces of shit before I even get a chance to even learn the language.

>> No.21321671

>>21321658
whats ur issue is it azanaer

>> No.21321672

>>21321667
desu youre doing something wrong or something is wrong with your computer because it just werx for me and many others.

>> No.21321684

just install linux tbqh

>> No.21321687

>>21320945
get rid of godan verbs, get rid of verbs that are two characters or less.

>> No.21321688

sekkaku nihongo benkyoushitakedo

>> No.21321693

>>21321672
Doesn't really change how fucking annoying it is to deal with at all.
The fact that I can't read anything doesn't help make it any more bearable. Not to mention the programs I downloaded (japanese locale) just randomly stopped working. Changed my actual system locale and restarted. Same problem.
>>21321671
It was but since I'm having problems with even the easiest to download VNs I knew it just wasn't it.

>> No.21321694

>>21320945
replace kanji with emojis

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21321697

What the fuck. Stupid piece of shit didn't post the image.
This is Nanairo

>> No.21321699

>>21321433
>wasting 700+ vocab on pokemon names

>> No.21321701

>>21321357
Anyone had nofap improve their concentration?

>> No.21321706

>>21321701
yea, my sperm concentration

>> No.21321710

>>21321693
show your changed locale

>> No.21321712
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>>21321706

>> No.21321714

>>21321701
Not directly, but concentrating takes energy and willpower and fapping takes that away from me.
But I think you need to combine nofap and meditation to reach the full potential of both, there's a reason why those monks do that.

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21321717

Is it really that far fetched that you think I'm lying to you, mate?

>> No.21321719

>>21321697
you got a cd image and not just a folder? mounted with something like wincdemu?

>> No.21321725

>>21321719
It was a folder that I mounted with poweriso. I can try using the program you mentioned.

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21321741

>>21321717
I can make mine look like whatever I want, I want you to show me what it actually is not the change window

>> No.21321748

>>21321717
>>21321741
Come to think of it, what is that beta button even? that's not on mine. wtf r u using

>> No.21321750

>>21321741
Fucking christ, no one's trying to trick you. Get over yourself. I'm already annoyed.
How the hell would you convince yourself that I would go out of my way to dupe you while also complaining about not working.

>> No.21321754

Im starting and I often enough get certain particles mixed up: Ni, wo, de..

Is it something that's going to trip me up bad as I advance and should try to focus on, or should I keep pressing on and they'll iron themselves out in time?

>> No.21321755

>>21321725
havent had any problem with it yet
looks to me like poweriso isnt emulating whatever extremely simple copy protection it uses
>>21321741
you can see his locale is fine in the picture here >>21321697
some of the people who couldnt get axanael to work might have been doing somethin wrong but that aint the problem here lol

>> No.21321759

>>21321755
>you can see his locale is fine in the picture here
nah cuz hes also using some emulator thing

>> No.21321763

>>21321755
Yeah I'm thinking it might be what I'm using to mount the file. It's why I was so quick to use WinCDEmu. PowerISO used to be very reliable for me. Not sure what happened. It's a mess now.
>>21321759
Did you even read what I wrote? I said it was broken. Why would I keep it on my computer if it's broken?

>> No.21321764

so the problem is that the guy is using a year+ old beta version of windows 10 lmao why the fuck havent u updated retard????????

>> No.21321765

G E N T O O
E
N
T
O
O

>> No.21321766

>>21321764
No, it still didn't work, stupid fucking loser.

>> No.21321768

least i can use a computer so whose the real loser kid?

>> No.21321769

>>21321764
i think ur windows is the one thats outdated lol

>> No.21321770

my windows would kick ur windowses ass

>> No.21321771

>>21321764
I updated not too long ago.

>> No.21321777

I'm collecting data for my masters thesis from startups funding proposals and there is some shitty ass Anki knock off in there that Uni courses are meant to somehow integrate into their learning lol

>> No.21321778

>>21321768
You still, anon...

>> No.21321782

>>21321770
wait til i tick my windowses beta feature box

>> No.21321785

>>21321782
Already ticked it, little shit.

>> No.21321788

>>21321785
now ur app locale is wrong get fucked

>> No.21321793

>>21321754
de is easy to remember, 自分で = go do it yourself.
ni is just in backwards
I consider myself pretty shit at learning Japanese but で に を へ と や are all easy.

>> No.21321811

>>21321785
show ur uptime to prove u restarted

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>>21321811
I really fucking hate you fags.

>> No.21321825

>>21321821
lol ur computer has been on for 46 hrs and u restarted ok bud

>> No.21321828

>>21321825
46 minutes, anon...

>> No.21321831

>>21321785
i got confused on who is who but the beta box is prob not somethin u want ticked lol
>>21321825
whats ur fuckin problem btw

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I guess I'm time travelling. I'm about to abort your little ass, nigga.

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21321842

you can't even touch my power level

>> No.21321846

If I didn't restart my PC I would have nutted on your puny score, normalfag.

>> No.21321850

call me normalfag again fucker. do it. see what happens.

>> No.21321851

>>21321831
Oh and it's fine, I was joking when I said that.

>> No.21321853

>>21321850
Sorry bro

>> No.21321854

>>21321842
>japanese ltsc
Where the fuck do you even find that

>> No.21321860

>>21321854
russian sites

>> No.21321881
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21321881

優しいオジサン

>> No.21321889

>>21321881
but アナル is a 名詞

>> No.21321894

this is what happens when you cripple your japanese by sub-vocalizing while you read https://streamable.com/taj9u

>> No.21321903

>>21321889
dumb bitch was saying あたしのアナル

>> No.21321911

>>21321881
なるほど
毎日英語の勉強をします

>> No.21321915

>>21321894
kys

>> No.21321918

>>21321903
i mean sure that's retarded but his explanation ain't right

>> No.21321924

>>21321894
Rent free

>> No.21321931

>>21321924
who?

>> No.21321936

>>21321931
Oh I thought it was another matt link from his conversation with Steve. I feel retarded.

>> No.21321940

>>21321936
you should.

>> No.21321943

>>21321940
Stop replying to me you fucking creep wtf the conversation was already over

>> No.21321948

>>21321940
I do. I'm sorry. The last 5 times that I clicked a link expecting something else and just got Matt I just gave up clicking.

>> No.21321950

>>21321943
mary go study

>> No.21321983

Anyone know any tricks for jisho.org?
putting a - before a kanji searches for compounds with that as the last kanji.
putting #name after kanji searches for only names with that kanji

>> No.21321992

>>21321983
typing romaji in CAPS searches for katakana

>> No.21322007

>>21321983
>>21321992
nice

>> No.21322027

>>21321032
やすむっていうのは

ネイティブのあいだでは

わるいニュアンスがはいってる

たとえば休日といわずに祝日をつかう

>> No.21322055

>>21321032
>>21322027
やすむってつかわずに

たとえば

こういういいまわしをするよ

>どにちしゅくじつ
>土日祝日は営業が御座いません
>This department is time off sunday, sataday and holiday.

あたしのえいごはだいたいおかしいんだよ

なおして

>> No.21322069

>>21321060
>you'll realize at least 20% of people are functionally illiterate
makes even more sense in the US when you consider the demographics.

>> No.21322087

>>21321635
he never went for computer science. that is something i corrected you (or some other anon) on a few months ago. he said he was "thinking about" taking courses and was "thinking about" learning to program. he never did.

>> No.21322096

>>21321842
how is Disk F 36% full if it's 0/0GB

>> No.21322110

>>21322087
so is he back on japanese degree track for attempt 2 or what

>> No.21322127

imagine being 23 still undergrad still living at home with a bunch of manga u didnt read plastered all over ur bedroom wall

>> No.21322144

i.. i just now realized that 会う is the same kanji as from 大会 etc..... holy shit...

>> No.21322151

>>21322144
congratz you are on the way to master nihongo
now repeat this two or three thousand times
have fun

>> No.21322155

>>21322151
but i'm 6 months in and already read and watch a lot lol i just dont know how i didn't realize that til now this is ur brain without writing

>> No.21322174

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VJ-WBkcS018&t=1158

lmfao

>> No.21322177

english has portions of compounds as well as single words that mean the same thing. imagine if both of those sounds were represented by the same chinese character. we should drop our crappy and inconsistent spelling system

>> No.21322181

>>21322127
what that no i never read it lol i just thought itd look sick on my wall

>> No.21322187

consider this spelling doesnt exist in japanese and neither do silent letters

undisputable proof japanese is easier than english

>> No.21322198

>>21322187
>neither do silent letters
です
ます
hmmmmmmmmmm

>> No.21322204

>>21322198
u still read the す

>> No.21322206

sounds like ur vaguely pointing in some general direction but wont explicitly go there cuz whatever dumb shit u say will get torn to shreds instantly

>> No.21322214

>>21322198
i'm a cute girl on the inside so pronounce the す

>> No.21322216

>>21322204
原因

>> No.21322229

>>21322216
dont u be ganging up on me
u get it cuz thats how u say that word

>> No.21322234

>>21321697
Fuck, this happens to me so often on Linux when I try to install VNs with Wine.

If the installer is just a bog-standard normal installer, then usually there's no problem and everything justwerks™, but whenever there's one of these weird installers like this the installer always somehow fails to find the very fucking disk that I'm running it from and won't let me install it.

I don't know how you can fix this, but you have my sympathy for what it's worth.

>> No.21322236

>>21322216
another example of people not hearing the ng sound boys. matt is 100% vindicated on early listening

>> No.21322239

>>21322216
more like 下忍

>> No.21322242

>>21322236
what do u mean matt

its more proof u should listen to me and watch 10000 hours of eng subbed anime

>> No.21322255

lmao 10k hours
lmao anime
lmao eng subbed

>> No.21322260

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VJ-WBkcS018&t=3218
whys he start breakin it in half ゆいっいつ it aint just to emphasize he never stops even when he goes back to the game

>> No.21322261

it justwerks™

but dont take it from me why not ask youtuber "theanimeman"

i mena its in his name lol

>> No.21322267

>>21322260
wow thats some real introspective into how these shit "translators" "translate" lmfao

>> No.21322272

>>21322261
theanimeman is half japanese thats cheating

>> No.21322282

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VJ-WBkcS018&t=3322
BASED

>> No.21322290

愚痴とか言わないで頑張ったほうが良い

>> No.21322292

ハルバート
why didn't yomichan pick this up. i almost missed what it mean until i remembered this fuck used a halberd a bit ago

>> No.21322297

>>21322292
cuz ur a retarド

>> No.21322301

>>21322292
literally just google it retard

>> No.21322302

>>21322292
Spelling error.
https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/ハルバード

>> No.21322303

>>21322301
that's a huge pain in the ass dude.

>> No.21322305

>>21322303
no its not you low attention span zoomer
it takes 2 seconds

>> No.21322307

>>21322302
i'm literally shaking. how can i learn from VNs if i can't trust them to spellcheck before releasing their shit?

>> No.21322308

>>21322302
not exactly my ninja

>A halberd (also called halbard, halbert or Swiss voulge) is a two-handed pole weapon that came to prominent use during the 14th and 15th centuries.

>> No.21322313

>>21322302
Wait, nevermind, I should've read this before I linked it.

Wikipedia says ハルバート is also an acceptable spelling (as is ハルベルト apparently).
>ハルベルトあるいはハルバート(Halbert)とも呼ばれる。

>> No.21322317

>>21322305
it takes 500 milliseconds using yomichan. those 1 and a half seconds add up over the years. i'm gonna have to ask you check yourself.

>> No.21322318

check urself b4 u shrek urself squiddos

>> No.21322324

>>21322317
>those 1 and a half seconds add up over the years.
u already wasted 5 minutes of ur life bitching about yomichan

>> No.21322326
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>>21322260
i know george only covers the basics of the language in his courses, so he doesn't need to know many of the words he encounters in random youtube videos or jrpgs. but it still feels strange that he doesn't know them.

>> No.21322332

>>21322324
these are only a few minutes. those 1 and a half seconds will add up to months by the time i'm 80.

>> No.21322333

>>21322326
i mean he said himself he does not play videogames hes basically a mattvsjapan in that proclaims to be good in the langauge but doesnt do anything in it in actuality

matt doesnt read books or even manga for that matter george doesnt play games both literally and in the sense that hes a no nonsense kinda guy

>> No.21322335

>>21322332
>those 1 and a half seconds will add up to months by the time i'm 80.
if u haven't learned japanese by the time u're 80 then u've got bigger problems

>> No.21322340

>>21322332
ill be the first one to tell u here

by the time ur 80 u still wont know japanese

>> No.21322343

>>21322335
>>21322340
i have an IQ of 95 so learning it by age 80 is a best case scenario. i'd appreciate it you quit with the ableism.

>> No.21322345

>>21322326
theres def a lot he doesnt know thats weird but he also looks up a lot of shit either cuz hes not confident or cuz he cant translate it
if he wasnt too based to read nihongo when it content for his channel hed prob look up less then
but if ur gonna go with that hypothetical maybe his vocabulary would be better too lol

>> No.21322348

>>21322313
btw if u want some more background on this theres a lot of weapons and armour that can use the -ert kind of ending in addition to others

try to catch em all : )

>> No.21322351

>>21322343
stop wasting ur time. only 130+ iq peeps have a chance to learn japanese

>> No.21322352

>>21322260
Fuck, I've been reading that as ゆういつ all this time as well. What the fuck.

I also kept reading 自ら as みずら for a while before I eventually realized my mistake. I really need to do more listening.

>> No.21322353

>>/jp/thread/S18985840#p18996762

It's been exactly a year since this guy called me out for being too stupid to learn Japanese. It turns out he was right. I'm still equivalent to an N5 shitter. Someone else called me out a couple months later and I will have to admit defeat then too.

>> No.21322354

>>21322351
i used to hate the iq talk but now that ive been here for a good while and having a high iq myself i realize this might actually be true just based on my empirical data lmao

>> No.21322362

>>21322353
lmfao that is the exact thread where the infamous tegami was born and was instantly made dead on arrival by myself and co

good shit

>> No.21322363

>>21322354
I'm usually confused about how so many people can be so stupid until I remember that I'm above average

>> No.21322366

>>21322353
I think that MAY just have been me but I'm not entirely sure.

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>>21322352
>>21322260

>> No.21322375

>>21322362
>the infamous tegami

>> No.21322379

>>21322375
ctrl f 手紙

>> No.21322380

>>21322352
people def say it closer to that sometimes
ゆいつ is in daijirin
>>21322353
what have u done and how much eroge have u read lets diagnose ur problem
>>21322362
i cant believe i was in that thread
>>21322366
how can u shitpost so hard u dont even know what posts u made
>>21322373
whyd u @ me i only asked why hes breakin it in half

>> No.21322382

oh great quiz tards here

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tfq4zjzpTPA#t=87

>>21322375
just scroll to the top of the thread its right there

>> No.21322384

>>21322380
lol you @ed me 3 times with that post
thx

>> No.21322388

>>21322380
>i only asked why hes breakin it in half
to create a definite split in what he thought he just learned as the one and only way to read it otherwise the extended vowel could easily sound or turn back into a single shortened vowel again do you want me to tie your shoes for you too you no common sense having faggot

>> No.21322390

>>21322384
i only got 1 @ and it was re the tegami

>> No.21322393

>>21322353
>>21322366
>>21322380
Yea looking at the other posts in the other thread that seems to have been me indeed.
I went through a lot of doomer phases where I thought learning Japanese is fucking impossible and let out my frustrations on DJT but I suppose I was kind of right too.

>> No.21322401

>>21322382
>oh great quiz tards here
Just filter him and you no longer have to see any of his posts, nor those of the idiots still stupid (or bored) enough to give him attention.

It's the best thing I've ever done.

>> No.21322415

>>21322373
JMDICT lists loads of readings that don't show up in any 国語辞典, this being one of them. I would take any of the "other forms" it lists with a grain of salt unless you can confirm them from another source.

>> No.21322422

>>21322380
>what have u done and how much eroge have u read lets diagnose ur problem
None. I did core2k, read through some grammar guides a few times, and read a few volumes of キノの旅, and that's about it.

>> No.21322430

>>21322401
filtering ppl is gay as hell and if i did that itd be a net loss of shit to lol at in these threads

>> No.21322435

>>21322388
can u read my fuckin post before u get in my shit i said he kept doin it 2 minutes later when he went back to read the full sentence
>>21322393
u either got no ego or the biggest ego in the thread
can never chill
>>21322422
if ur iq has anything to do with it its cuz it might have guided ur decisions
u know what ur problem is so what are u gonna do about it
are u gonna give up or are u gonna download some fuckin eroge

>> No.21322436

>>21322362
good times indeed

>> No.21322438

>>21322435
ya u want him to change a years long habit in 2 mins fucko?

>> No.21322442

>>21322393
When you were bad and thought things were impossible, how did you push through it and how did you get good? I need to get out of N5.

>> No.21322444

>>21322435
>>21322438
listen the real problem isnt him reading that its that he didnt know what 心得 was which is kinda ironic am i right

>> No.21322446

>>21322430
It's not nice to laugh at retards.

>> No.21322445

>>21322435
I'm trying to chill but some guys here really know how to push me over the edge. Sorry for that.

>> No.21322458

>>21322353
Damn it's has been so long I can't remember whether >>18986005 was me or nah

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>>21322438
oh u want me to tell him to do it tomorrow
tomorrows never gonna come u gotta tell urself one thing
its fuckin friday
im gonna make it right now
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q6NLFkGdIww&t=44

>> No.21322461

>>21322446
ur missing posts about how quiztard actually used to buy into the philosophy that learning japanese is impossible a year ago lol

this changes his character completely lmfao

>> No.21322462

well it's really easy to push you over the edge with facts such as no one here giving a shit about your dumb anime cards lol

>> No.21322464

>>21322442
I mean when I was making those posts I was already like at at least N2 level and could read over 2000 Kanji and still thought learning Japanese was fucking ridiculous. If you are stuck at N5 I don't know what to tell you.

>> No.21322468

imagine calling urself quizmaster after losing horribly in a quiz lmao

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>>21322459
now thats fuckin atta boy right there cuz it is fuckin friday uve done it right this time

>> No.21322473

I'll take over Matt before long, you need to consider that he has been learning for 9 years and I for just over 2 so of course he will have Kanji reading ability a bit higher.

>> No.21322478

>>21322473
link more of ur int posts

>> No.21322480

doesnt change anything about the present state. ur all talk no walk quizboy

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>>21322473
doesn't matter if you can read kanji better if he destroys in every other aspect of the language lol

>> No.21322487

Could I learn nihongo by just watching anime and making cards or do I have to eventually pick up a book.

>> No.21322491

>>21322401
there are people who want the thread to change and people who want to roll in the mud
filtering is the kind of thing the itazura maintainer or past quizmaster might have done
no one who stays here long enough wants to see anything but the real djt for all it is

>> No.21322817

seriously though what did matt do exactly for 9 years if he only ever read 10 books and watched 3000 episodes of anime, where did the rest of the time go

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>accent characters

>> No.21322824

>>21322480
>>21322480
勝負だ!挑戦 him to a 1v1 if you 肝が据わる

>> No.21322829

>>21322478
I don't post that often on /int/ honestly because the thread is mostly really boring and mundane. If I ever have some more conversations there I'll make sure to link them though.

>>21322481
I'm working on all my skills.

>>21322487
Definitely if you do anime cards.
https://streamable.com/jyhp3
>>21209313

>> No.21322830

what tards like quiztard dont realize is its really easy to cross the line of being "good at kanji" and just being a complete retard weirdo who should get some better hobbies

its no more evident than in his int posts where he uses all these words hes memorized to create some of the most disastrous hodgepodge of katakoto ever to pass thru these threads

just start here and check it out lol >>21316450

>> No.21322835

>>21322817
he might have spent 3000 episodes worth of his life but it was just 300 episodes 10 times and 9 of them he had no video lol

>> No.21322841

>>21322829
are you gonna learn to speak japanese better than english?

>> No.21322842

>>21322461
>>21322491
I tried turning the filter off and immediately regretted it. Back on again.

Namefag-drama-free DJT experience is the best DJT experience.

>> No.21322853

>>21322841
I hope so. I wonder if I can get my written Japanese above my written English, but I break my mouth speaking English so I wager I'll be more conversationally comfortable with Japanese before long. Then again I've never talked to a Japanese person in my life before maybe I should practice conversation at some point.

>> No.21322857

>>21322817
Where are we getting this "he only ever read 10 books and watched 3000 episodes of anime" info from?

Also, >>21322835 is probably right.

>> No.21322859

>出かけていている
I remember this too well.

>> No.21322861

>>21322829
I'll trust you quizmaster and go the anime route. If I ever make it using this method I'll make sure to credit you.

>> No.21322862

>>21322853
ill be totally frank and honest and objective

ur phrasing in japanese is complete dogshit

as u are u cant even keep a conversation going with a 10 year old

its nowhere near ur proficiency with english

relax ur ego and start figuring out why and ull prolly make huge improvements right away

>> No.21322874 [DELETED] 

>>21322862
kys

>> No.21322880

>>21322862
Well I don't think that's a fair evaluation as I'm not trying to sound like I am speaking every day Japanese but trying to shit out some chuuni shit because that's more fun. I'll keep making improvements in what I enjoy doing with the language, or are you going to tell me I should watch some drama next so I learn to blend in or something.

>> No.21322884

>>21322861
Good luck. I honestly think the anime card method is the optimal way to use Anki and you will learn to read if you keep up your reps and read the subs.

>> No.21322885

>>21322880
well matt did suggest that anime is bad and drama is good so i'd listen to the master if i were you

>> No.21322886

>>21322857
behold, your nihongo master

https://youtu.be/OQ-YrNbMR0E?t=1129

>> No.21322887

>>21322880
Literally "I was just pretending to be retarded" - the post.

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LoGH Ep. 89

And I think I landed in the wrong show or something, what is going on haha.

>> No.21322893

>>21322880
ur post started out more in the right direction but then veered off when u started talking about what u should watch next

>> No.21322901

>>21322886
they dont make those podcasts anymore i wonder why

>> No.21322902

if ur gonna do nothin but anime the anime aniki is prob a good bet lol
if ur diet is balanced though i aint seein it

>> No.21322905

Threadly reminder that you only need 20% of the language to understand 80% of the time.

Stop falling for the memes, do VNcore.

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>>21322886

>> No.21322909

>>21322884
your mixtape links are dead. The site shutdown on March 31 of this year. Got any alternate links?

>> No.21322919

>>21322886
punchable voices I like

>> No.21322922

>>21322909
I don't think you need them. There is the link to the card making video, the video of the cards themselves and together with the instructions one should be able to figure it out.

I may write a new guide I can link to so people don't get confused about the dead links soon.

>> No.21322924

>>21322909
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9LsFdGXoSj0#t=159

>> No.21322936

>>21322886
>Y: There have been some books that I've actually been into.
>M: Yeah, a few. Maybe like one or two.
What the fuck.

It's actually probably a good thing that Matt branched off and made a separate thing from AJATT because his mindset and message is the polar opposite of Khatz's. I remember reading through the AJATT site and Khatz never stops hammering into you the message that if something isn't fun, drop it.

I'm actually left thinking after watching that that AJATT wouldn't get anywhere near as much hate as it does here if not for its connection to Matt and the people associated with him.

>> No.21322949

matto probly gets mad if you dont mention him in the same sentence as ajatt

>> No.21322956

is there a way to suck nihongo skill out of regulars here so i can stop being bad?

>> No.21322960

more like mass imagination approach lol

dont read write or do arithmetic but pretend youre learning japanese and then impress every1 when u can talk like a teenage girl https://streamable.com/evvoc

>> No.21322970

>>21322936
>and Khatz never stops hammering into you the message that if something isn't fun, drop it.
that's why matt dropped like 50 books halfway through

>> No.21322975

>>21322956
yea you can suck me

>> No.21322976

>>21322970
matt took it farther than that

matt dropped learning japanese to pursue pretending instead lol

>> No.21322978

moedork u do enough sucking for the whole thread

>> No.21322979

>>21322976
he dropped nihongo for flash cards
then he dropped flash cards for patreon
excited to see where he turns next just like karbin

>> No.21322981

Why is everybody shilling for Steve after that embarrasing loss he had fighting Matt on a nihongo duel

>> No.21322982

matt is such a sterotypical flashtard

studies japanese full time for years but barely reads so it's all fucking useless information

can't even read 義 baka

>> No.21322984

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4mwCszrsttE

>> No.21322985

no doubt steve was embarrassing but it should really only hurt all the oldfag djters who sucked that gomers dry ass dick for however many years

>> No.21322988

>>21321642
>>21321655
i'm still the one who popularized it in early 2018

>> No.21322990

yo ntr why didnt u say u got in a track https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=abXh8nZWOGo&t=206

>> No.21322993

>>21321655
lol my reply to that post still owns

>>/jp/thread/S17295476#p17307987

>> No.21322999

should thank matt i can never forget 交互 口語 and 広義 now i should donate

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>>21322990

>> No.21323003

>>21322993
i nodded my head when i read it a few minutes and wondered if it was you good shit dude

>> No.21323005

>>21322999
not really cuz its me who jammed it all down ur throat ad infinitum

>> No.21323008

>>21323005
where do i donate

>> No.21323009

>>21322922
It's all good. Looked up how to setup sharex and what do you know matt has a tutorial on it. Can't believe how easy it is to grab audio. Literally 2 button presses and Ctrl Z.

>> No.21323015

>>21322999
nihongo has so many fuckin homophones why are all these words the fuckin same

>> No.21323016

>>21323008
u can donate by making good posts itt

>> No.21323020

>>21323015
none of those words are pronounced the same dude

>> No.21323025

>>21323020
that's not true, a lot of homophones have the same pitch accent

>> No.21323026

>>21323009
Alright as long as you know that Matt got the idea from me.

>> No.21323029

>>21323026
no he didn't he got it from vlad who got it from you

>> No.21323032

>>21323029
Who the fuck is vlad.

>> No.21323033

>>21322984
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4mwCszrsttE&t=640

>> No.21323036

>>21323032
his friend and a redditor (Vladz0r) and the guy who wrote this
https://vladsperspective.wordpress.com/2017/03/14/optimize-your-anki-youre-overtesting-yourself-on-too-few-cards-make-huge-gains/

>> No.21323059

>>21323033
>私はトイレ

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>> No.21323071

>>21323036
I always lol when these guys tell those stories of pressing hard on every card and then discovering ease exists. And then they pretend it's a bad thing rather than reevaluation the bullshit cards they do lol.

>> No.21323074

>>21323063
i'm laughing way more than i should be

>> No.21323077

>>21322970
If you watch the video, he also talks about forcing himself to read through books he didn't like just so he could say he'd finished them, and how he'd count how many pages were left and try to calculate how much longer he had to suffer.

I doubt any of those 50 books were dropped because of what Khatz said. He probably fully intended to finish them but just couldn't force himself through any more of them and had to admit defeat.

>> No.21323100

I finished all eroge I've started since 2017. It's good to be stronger willed than m*tt

>> No.21323108

負け者マット lol

>> No.21323113

>spends an hour a day meditating
>doesn't have the mental fortitude to finish a book
hmm....

>> No.21323114

more like 負け犬
desune

>> No.21323120

i for one have finished all novels i've started in japanese
all two of them

>> No.21323121

>>21323114
Furigana: まけまっと

>> No.21323122

敗北のマット lol

>> No.21323123

I admit to you guys, I have probably started to read like 30 VNs in total now but I couldn't bother finishing a single one. I think I'll get back to Dies irae once I have some more free time.

>> No.21323124

whys matt keep telling everyone to read books when he cant even finish them lol kimoooooi

>> No.21323129

>>21323123
why not pick 1 u believe in not 1 that u were memed to believe in

>> No.21323138

u dont have to finish everything u start as long as u finish shit
id be better off if i dropped shit more often

>> No.21323139

nobody here understands. it takes more than 10 years of m*ditation to read a single book on philosophy in japanese. he is making it!

>> No.21323144

>>21323129
I honestly enjoyed Dies irae though, it's just that the next semester started and I got no time. If I can't do my reps, watch some anime and then just chill and read for like several hours I don't feel like launching a VN at all. Anime is easier because you have episodes in tiny bits and you can eat any time.

>> No.21323150

>>21323123
i thought above all the other shit u were an eroge reader
my trust in u is shaken
>>21323124
matts reached such a high level of native like fluency he knows whats best for u even if hes never done it
plz submit ur newest ideas to his discord where he can sort through them and pick the ones that will get him the most views

>> No.21323157

>>21323138
i mean if u finish routes in a game but drop the game thats acceptable

but if ur hella 途中 and just rq cuz japango is too hardo then thats a problemo

>> No.21323164

>>21323108
>者
is it もの or しゃ in this instance

>> No.21323172

>>21323157
if u dont fuckin like it u can stop any time as long as u dont quit everything
quittin everything is bad for u but uve seen what happens to a man who spends 8 months on a vn he hates

>> No.21323174

>>21323150
I think above all I'm an anime watcher can't say I care much about eroge lol.

>> No.21323179

But man I honestly need to finish shit I started reading. I think once the semester ends I'll try to get through Dies Irae, Fate and Subahibi which I all started but dropped a bit in.

>> No.21323181

>>21323172
i mean u dont have to autistically stick with everything but at least try to find reasonable stopping points if ur a habitual dropper

i mean its also a issue of the sheer amount of shit that passes thru our brains daily that we really fuckin have this crisis where were always looking to go to the next thing and give our brain more new information more more more faster faster faster and thats a bit of a problem

>> No.21323182

卍 is the best 漢字

>> No.21323186

饅頭 is the best 頭

>> No.21323189

you're thinking of 亀頭

>> No.21323195

no im not moedork

>> No.21323197

>>21323174
i didnt mean more than anything else i meant in spite of ur flaws
>>21323181
i was just startin from the assumption that if u habitually drop ur beyond recovery
comin from the opposite end the best advice i can give is dont do fuckin that

>> No.21323215

>>21323174
have you watched naruto in japanese what did you think

>> No.21323222

>>21323197
i think ultimately waht i wanted to get at was if u dont have major disagreements with a thing on the surface level and u just wanna quit cuz u dont like reading it challenge urself to go a little bit more if u cant reasonably explain why u wanna drop it

cuz ppl can really rob themselves of good shit when they just dismiss things casually without a solid reason

ill give u a solid example

its ok to drop ichigo marshmallow because its shit for pedophiles

if u have a argument as sound as that then its always ok to quit then and there as soon as u realize it

>> No.21323226

Which mp3 player should I get? I'm going all ass immersion

>> No.21323228

>>21323226
shanling m0

>> No.21323236
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Why haven't you acquired a qt Japanese gf with your language skills yet?

>> No.21323239

>>21323226
you literally cannot learn nihongo without this badboy
https://www.amazon.com/AGPTEK-Player-Lossless-Supports-Recording/dp/B07F34PNPL/ref=sr_1_16?keywords=agptek+mp3+player+16gb&qid=1557499239&s=gateway&sr=8-16

>> No.21323242

>>21323236
>webm
cringe

>> No.21323244

>>21323236
im that pink guy in the background that walks by lmao

>> No.21323263

>>21323215
I haven't.

>>21323236
Awkward as fuck that, like a robot pretending to be human and really overcompensating. Who wants a GF like that?

>> No.21323267

>>21323228
Are you trying to rob me?

>>21323239
I'll probably go with this.

>> No.21323271

the best japanese girls are the westernized ones

>> No.21323273

dont u guys have phones lol

>> No.21323277

>>21323273
still bhurt huh lmao

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>>21323239
Look at that photoshopped product picture Jesus Christ. Why would anyone buy these Chinese bullshit products.

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What do I watch next?

>> No.21323288

>>21323277
its just a relevant quote i aint got an issue

>> No.21323293

>>21323284
boogiepop again so you can hear the op and ed 18 more times

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Here is my listening material for some time.
This app is really good for audio books I love it.

>> No.21323299

>>21323284
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XUyaO2_0UiY

>> No.21323301

>>21323283
it's 30$ and it's wicked sick

>> No.21323302

>>21323293
I skipped them most of the time and the anime wasn't good

>> No.21323309

>>21323302
well u ruined it for urself if u skipped the best part

>> No.21323311

>>21323283
hes definitely listening to this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5oMrlMbyEj0#t=116

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what the fug

>> No.21323352

>>21323347
dang thats fuckin wife material right there

>> No.21323356

>>21323347
picked up

>> No.21323369
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my wife 百合姫

>> No.21323405

prove that korean and japanese are unrelated

>> No.21323415

prove ur parents are unrelated

>> No.21323431

Buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo

>> No.21323434

japanese is related to okinawan and ryukyuan languages and they aren't similar to korean

>> No.21323437

prove that japanese and turkish are unrelated

>> No.21323446

子子子子子子子子子子子子

>> No.21323453

prove that わたしはnotゲイ

>> No.21323458

関西弁 is the true sucessor o old japanese 標準語 steams from a bunch of country bumpkins moving to edo a mimicking the way protistute spoke and guess which ethnic group has been historically involved in protitution in japan? that's why you can find similarity in certain particle usages between standard japanese and korean

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>>21323431
>アメリカ英語

>> No.21323502

i wonder what it was like to be a edo whore servicing nasty unwashed samurai dick

>> No.21323512

How do you refer to yourself in first person? I use 私僕俺 together because I'm never sure.

>> No.21323522

>>21323437
japanese and korean are much more similar though

>> No.21323526

i like to spend multiple hours a day every day obsessing over very minor e-celebs specializing in a very niche field, and then come to an underground anonymous video game alt-right nazi websight to make smug quips about any negative things i can surmise about them during my time obsessing over them.

>> No.21323529

>>21323512
あたし

>> No.21323533

>>21323526
can you make another one of these but for someone like me who defends their honor?

>> No.21323538

>>21323533
hes got it kind of wrong cuz u do the watching for us and the good bits make their way here so we can laugh

>> No.21323546

>>21323512

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>>21323298
I've set everything up and last thing I've been dealing with for the last hour is how to setup this fucking yomichan integration. I've never done this kind of thing before but everything was going well until this part. What do I need to type in the template fields to get yomichan to recognize it.

>> No.21323584

>>21323298
are you buying those or STEALING them?

>> No.21323587
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what do u think happened to this dude

>> No.21323603

>>21323569
I don’t really get what your issue is. No trip as I‘m out phoneposting.

>> No.21323604

>>21323587
did he ever do anything more exciting than make a patreon

>> No.21323619

>>21323512
https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/日本語の一人称代名詞#一人称単数代名詞の一覧

>> No.21323631

>>21323603
Still have to get that attention even when you don't have attention-seeking tag.
Have sex.

>> No.21323633

>>21323603
For anki intergration do I need to input code into the templates or does yomichan take care of that is my question. When I try to highlight kanji the icon that's supposed to be green is grayed out.

>> No.21323638

>>21323512
吾輩

>> No.21323642

>>21323587
oh hes still goin strong https://japanesetactics.com/how-to-see-progress-in-language-learning
>Change Your Mindset And Let Go Of The Outcome
is he figurin it out
>1. Set Goals And Create Daily Activities
>let’s say that your goal is to learn all 2,136 jōyō kanji in a year.
>2. Track Your Activities In The New Language
>But when you track the things you do, the stats are right there in front of you (objectively) and they show you that you actually are getting better and better as time continues.
no hes fuckin dead

>> No.21323657

imagine someone learning all the jouyou kanji and then read something and see unfamiliar kanji all the time

>> No.21323665

>>21323633
You are using the wrong information tag. You need to use expression it even says in the text above.

>>21323631
Wanted him to know it was me.

>> No.21323673

>>21323619
which of these first person pronouns is the most offputting and/or rude? i want to try this when i talk to an italki tutor.

is it 我輩?

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>>21323657
what but teachers say you only need to know joyo cause the rest are only in names

>> No.21323685

>>21323673
yep
an alternative would also be 俺様

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>>21323665
Thank you so much anon that did the trick. An hour of suffering and all I had do was change a single line. Can't express my gratitude enough.

>> No.21323695

>>21323684
teachers also tell you that you'll only learn if you buy textbooks and sit in their classes
This could be bait, but I'll explain it anyway:
In newspapers and official documents, only the jouyou kanji can be used (so that everyone is able to understand them regardless of education or just as a standard)
In school, kids learn the jouyou, the jinmeiyou and I think some additional ones (I'm not familiar with the japanese school system)
In many texts like light novels or stuff like that you can encounter jouyou kanji, jinmeiyou kanji (which are not ONLY used in names but also allowed to be used in names) and kanji that are neither of the two.
For full literacy, you usually need to know around three thousand kanji and more which is way more than just the 2136 jouyou kanji.

>> No.21323700

>>21323673
I would expect it's 俺様. Attaching honorifics to your own name in the first place is something you're not supposed to do, so going and sticking 様 of all things on the end of your own personal pronoun is probably just about the most pompous thing you can do.

>> No.21323716

>>21323687
I‘m not anon but Quizmaster.

>> No.21323718

>>21321793
>自分で = go do it yourself.
in my animus, I remember hearing 自分でヤる as "I'll do it myself", am I remembering it wrong?

>> No.21323749

>>21323718
its both
if its myself or yourself depends on if youre talking about yourself or someone else

>> No.21323779

>>21322234
I found out what the problem was. When burning the disk it was auto-set to CD instead of DVD.
Changed it to either DVD-R or ROM and now it's working. I'll check if that's what was stopping me with Axanael and get back to you guys.

>> No.21323792

>>21323779
>When burning the disk
what a blast to the past

>> No.21323805

who the hell burn disks in 2019

>> No.21323819

>>21323792
>>21323792
Me I guess, but that was my problem and now it's solved. Just wouldn't work normally.

And I just realized that I said burn disk. I meant mount the disk. That does bring back a lot of memories.

>> No.21323834

Anyone know where I can download the Kenkyusha EPWING. The one in the CoR is a straight up virus.

>> No.21323840

>>21323819
surprised if it didnt default to something that works but now u got at least 2 vns to play so gambare

>> No.21323850

How do I kanji when Anki cards leech

>> No.21323858

知らしめる seems like it's 3 little words dressed up in a dictionary definition but also it seems kinda legit can you help me out guys

>> No.21323873

>>21320507
Sometimes slice of life comedies make it extremely obvious what they're talking about with visual representations from the character's imagination or something. A lot of the time they're just sat there talking and then start reacting to each other in comical ways and you can barely attach what they're talking about to anything.

Watch something else. For example I find GCCX good because "thing happens in game -> arino reacts to it and you can follow his reaction because you are watching him play".

>> No.21323947

>>21323834
>The one in the CoR is a straight up virus.
It isn't and I have no idea why you think so, but RuTracker has a bunch of EPWING dictionaries and you can also find a link to download them in the description of one of Matt's videos if you don't want to use the download in the CoR.

>> No.21323955

>>21323569
use nazeka instead

>> No.21323956

>>21320507
>but im having difficulties parsing the words since i dont understand any of it.
Use Japanese subs.

>is it supposed to be like this?
At first, yes. Did you expect to just be fluent right off the bat?

>> No.21323962

>>21323458
actually eastern japanese is more "pure" than western japanese is as western japanese has more features caused by contact with korean

>> No.21323975

>>21320507
Don't fall for the meme retard

>> No.21323998

>>21323955
how do i install the nazeka epwing pack i downloaded

>> No.21324001

>>21323975
It's hard to know what anyone is talking about anymore when they say "immersion". It's originally an AJATTism and refers to something specific within that method (the idea of an immersion environment - 24/7 exposure to Japanese), but so many people keep misusing it as just another way of saying "input" (the simple act of reading and/or listening).

>> No.21324008

Explain it to my dumb ass who never really read through the AJATT site: What is immersion?
Also what is AJATT really? Listening to stuff and reading stuff and making sentence cards while trying not to cry?

>> No.21324012

>>21324001
>It's originally an AJATTism
it's a term that long predates AJATT

>> No.21324014

>>21320507
I didn't do immersion, but I did do raw listening input from day 1. Started off doing it for hours and then cut it down to an hour a day. I did it for 3 god damn months in a row WITHOUT looking up words and it was almost entirely white noise the whole time. This is gonna be obviously stupid to most people here but as a beginner I interpreted the input meme as "You will learn words every day if you watch raw anime without looking up words or anything."

That didn't happen. So my advice would be that if you're going to watch a show, make sure you have Japanese subtitles you can easily check if you keep hearing a certain sound but don't know what it means. There's a video player called voracious where you can blur/hide Japanese subtitles which can be revealed upon a keypress. There's also sites like animelon and daiweeb that have jap subtitles. You should definitely be reading and mining words for anki, or doing a deck like core2k or vncore.

>> No.21324025

>>21323998
Use the "Import JSON dictionary" option in the settings.

You can only use one EPWING dictionary at a time in Nazeka, just so you know. Wareya is supposed to be doing an update at some point so you can use more than one and manage the ones you've installed, but who knows when that will be.

>> No.21324038

>>21324025
oh i see it now. i looked a couple weeks ago and didn't find it because i forgot there was a main options menu where you could change the color scheme and stuff.

>> No.21324085

So it was a matter of not mounting the disk correctly. I wonder if this is what everyone's problem with not being able to download Axanael was.
>>21323840
Yeah thanks. Now I have no excuses. First novel, this is going to be hell.

>> No.21324122

Have you IMMERSED already today? Better get on it.

>> No.21324129

Is 沙耶の唄 a good first VN to read? And is it good?
If no, recommend me a short VN with cute girls, pls.

>> No.21324130

>>21324122
i can't right now
at uni

>> No.21324132

how many of the AJATT folks actually understand what the fuck they're reading? i see a lot of "fluent in japanese" guys on discord who literally struggle to piece a non masu kei sentence together then they blame it on "yakuza speech" or "fucking kansaiben" while parroting chuuni garbage they saw on some third rate light novel to prove they know japanese

>> No.21324134

组 what kanji is this

>> No.21324135

>>21324008
>What is immersion?
In the AJATT/MIA sense, exposing yourself to Japanese every waking hour (and optionally while you're asleep as well).

There's active immersion, where you're watching an anime, reading an LN, or whatever else, and actually paying attention to it and trying to understand the language, and then there's passive immersion where you just have something playing in the background while you're not really paying any deliberate attention to it with the idea (hope) being that your brain will pick stuff up from it.

On top of that, you're supposed to switch everything over that you possibly can in your life to Japanese (e.g. the language setting for your electronic devices).

>Also what is AJATT really?
An acronym for All Japanese All The Time.

>Listening to stuff and reading stuff and making sentence cards
It's basically the above described immersion + making (10,000) sentence cards to help you memorize vocabulary. AJATT is also known as the 10,000 sentence method because of this. On top of that, there's also a lazy form of RTK thrown in there based around recognition rather than production, and I think as well Khatz (AJATT originator) says not to study grammar at all.

>while trying not to cry?
Khatz's whole philosophy was basically the opposite of the impression Matt gives off. Khatz repeatedly tries to make the point on his site that you can learn Japanese simply as a by-product of having fun, and that if anything you're reading or listening to isn't fun for you then you shouldn't hesitate to drop it and find something else. Meanwhile, I don't think I've ever heard Matt use the word "fun" even once in reference to his offshoot (MIA).

>> No.21324138

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IgQEVIOtZ8o

She claims she can read the longest harry potter book in 3 hours. This is bullshit right?

>> No.21324140

>>21324130
have you not listened to anything our lord and savior has said? One earbud of Japanese. Always and especially during class.

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*humble brags about being one of the special ones to discover the long-forgotten art of...IMMERSION*
>I just...
*flips through pages*
>I just understand it
*high pitched tone faking incredulity*
>We all immerse. My head is immersed firmly up my ass all day

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>>21323779
>When burning the disk

>> No.21324179

>>21324158
please do not mystify the accomplishments of the Japanese Eroge Ben

>> No.21324190

>>21324135
>passive immersion where you just have something playing in the background while you're not really paying any deliberate attention to it with the idea (hope) being that your brain will pick stuff up from it.
Khatz believed that but M*tt acknowledges it doesn't actually do much, same as listening to nipponese when you sleep. The point of having shit in the background at all times is that you can quickly turn it into active immersion by paying attention whenever you have the time.

>> No.21324194

>>21324138
The english one, right? That would be the Order Of Phoenix with 257,045 words. I just timed my reading speed (as an ESL that has practiced a lot) and if I read really fast it would take me around nine hours to finish the book (I read 448 words a minute while reading fast with decent comprehension).
There is NO way she finished it in three hours.

>> No.21324195

>>21324014
>This is gonna be obviously stupid to most people here but as a beginner I interpreted the input meme as "You will learn words every day if you watch raw anime without looking up words or anything."
>That didn't happen.
I fell for the same meme, but fortunately I didn't waste as much time on it as you. I gave up on it pretty much as soon as it became clear to me that I was picking up no vocabulary whatsoever.

I had actually convinced myself when watching stuff raw that I was understanding a lot more of the language than I was, when in reality it was just that my brain was just filling in the blanks in my comprehension with visual context so I was still able to follow along with the gist of the plot in spite of not understanding half the lines. Rewatching stuff I watched back then but this time with subtitles really reveals just how little I was actually understanding.

>> No.21324199

>>21324194
*it would take me 9,5 hours, so basically ten. It would take me less to actually read it since I know the book, but that's not the point here.

>> No.21324209

>>21324140
i don't want to fail a class again

>> No.21324225

Does the Wanikani Anki deck go through literally all of the kanji before doing the vocab if you don't configure it after importing it or am I just underestimating the amount of kanji you had to study before vocab. Asking because I let Wanikani lapse after I hit Level 25 and now I'm trying to catch up with the Anki deck but I'm 60+ kanji in and there's no vocab. I disabled the radicals deck if that matters.

>> No.21324229

>>21324138
What made her think it was a good idea to immitate the single worst English accent in existence?

>> No.21324236

>>21324225
I think you manually have to study the deck in the order you want.
So like today you study the level 25 kanji. Tomorrow you study the level 25 vocab. It doesn't order it for you.

>> No.21324238

>>21324225
Just open the browser and sort the cards by when they're due and have a look for yourself. I doubt anyone else here is using it.

>> No.21324247

>>21324238
>>21324236
Didn't see the browse option, I was messing around in another menu. Figured it out, thanks.

>> No.21324277

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZEVzHpAZDNM
how much can you understand djt?

>> No.21324294

もういいんだ
諦めましょう、ね
疲れたから
ゆっくり眠りたい
永遠に

さやおなら。

>> No.21324316

>>21324277
probably all of it

>> No.21324318

>>21324277
none of it. shoulda listened to jamal and watched eng sub anime because reading alone isn't getting me to where i wanna be

>> No.21324319

if ur musics lyrics aint written with words that arnt read the way the singer sings em ya aint listenin t'd'rite music

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>>21324277
lol matt didn't catch this comment

>> No.21324340

>>21324277
steve's vocab is not that bad
even though his pronounciation is shit

>> No.21324352

not watching the steve x matt vid for a bit but just wanted to say im excited to lol

>> No.21324361

just realized i have 2 distinguish that i meant i was excited to lol not excited to watch the vid itself

>> No.21324371

Please translate the highlights for us newcomers.

>> No.21324388

ぬうっと

>> No.21324405

this video is actually quite good because steve isn't just interrogating matt about A.J.A.T.T.

>> No.21324428

I don't feel like Matt is at a level to really look up to at all really. The time he talked in Discord & his chat with Steve are very mundane and while he sounds good and can express himself decently I never get the impression of an eloquent speaker that would come anywhere close to a well spoken native speaker. He is more like a dumb teenager if you get what I mean.

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>> No.21324440

>>21324428
i mean everything he does is clueless highschooler tier dude and yea no doubt he cant even attempt to talk about anything complex in japanese on the level of anything he tries to explain in his english vids

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My first card and it looks like shit. Anyone got tips for getting the alignment in order. I also just updated anki and lost all my addons so if anyone can donate me some theme codes I would greatly appreciate it.

>> No.21324458

>>21324453
what the fUCK is ur propblem

>> No.21324466

they basically just jacked each other off about input > output for 20 minutes

>> No.21324477

Matt used to love talking about the "meta" behind everything. could he do it in Japanese

>> No.21324482

>>21324453
Hold up let me create a quick pastebin to help you out.

>> No.21324488

steve jamal collab when

>> No.21324498

idk what id have to talk to steve about im not a language fag id prolly just try to get him to play hentai games or watch anime

>> No.21324506

Just a normal fag

>> No.21324508

am i going to permanently cripple myself if i listen to steve speak japanese

>> No.21324510

true i could talk to him about the finer things in life like cleaning ur gutters and rebuilding a carburetor lmao

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>>21324428
to be fair japanese is a lot harder to speak in an articulate manner than a language like english because it's not actually useful. you for example are spending your free time communicating in english because it grants access to the most amazing content and people. if you didn't know english you wouldn't be able to appreciate the world's greatest language learning community (djt).

what's the equivalent in japanese? matt doesn't get quality communication time in japanese like you do in english. so pound for pound he's still destroying you and every other hater.

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>>21324453
>>21324482
Alright here we are:

https://pastebin.com/8wBhNhvc

>> No.21324525

>listn to actual japs speaking japanese
>or
>listn to 2 kitanai gaikokujin speak jap

hmmmm

>> No.21324531

>>21324430
Everyone who has ever learned a second language knows this

>> No.21324534

>>21324482
Thanks man, Also how do you hide the 2 blue bars covering the screen. I noticed your page was transparent and the subs were at the bottom of the screen. Is it a browser a difference?

>> No.21324535

>>21324518
I wager you could still advance into upper levels of English if you started regularly eating real novels and maybe some non-fiction books that might deal with a bit more complex ideas. It's not like you don't have a point, but I don't want to stop at that level myself personally. I concede that Matt is still better than me but that's only right now.

>> No.21324543

LOL

>> No.21324544

>>21324534
Do you mean on the fluentcards site? If so I messed with this a bit:
https://greasyfork.org/en/scripts/382876-fluentcards-background

>> No.21324547

>>21324535
I mean Japanese.

>> No.21324548

>>21324535
he plans on moving to japan eventually, and his output will probably improve a lot when he does.

>> No.21324550

>>21324535
nom nom delicious novels

>> No.21324554

QM can fucking program too? is there anything this dude can't do?

>> No.21324557

Well I mean now that he has a Patreon fortune and the ability to just be a NEET studying continuously, as well as the ability pay to talk to Japanese teachers 24/7 passing him in that department may indeed be difficult after all lol.

>> No.21324571

i mean i dont have any problems w. quiz tard saying hes ognna be better than matt before too long cuz i always said i saw matt as no better than the mid tier djters in functionality

he spent too much time practicing whatever retarded way he talks (pitch accent ? lol) instead of learning more japanese

i still havent checked the vid yet but id assume its more of matt following his usual talking patterns that are not good but still falls back on them nonetheless

>> No.21324579

native-vetted:
matt
not native-vetted:
trolls on djt insulting matt's capabilities

>> No.21324583

You know if I had the same Patreon bucks as him and my entire livelihood depended on knowing Japanese better than others I'd be investing a fair bit of it to talk to iTalki teachers just about the entire day. If someone gets that kind of practice and those teachers try to continuously improve one's speech that'd probably net some ridiculously good results, just a thought.

>> No.21324592

>>21324579
u forgot when georges wife native unvetted him lol

>> No.21324591

Anyway I'm logging off for today see you tomorrow.

>> No.21324595

>>21324583
he has a business to run rather than spending all time on italki. sorry.

>> No.21324600

pretty pathetic business

>> No.21324601

>>21324544
Wonderful. I got everything set. Is there anyone else on here trying this method? I don't come around here as often as before.

>> No.21324605

>>21321983
You can use ? and * as wildcards, ? for single characters and * for multiple. Makes looking up longer words and compounds easier. For example, if you saw 臨機応変, you could just search for ???変 or ??応?.

>> No.21324611

>>21324601
Not on the thread but on the Discord.

>> No.21324669

>barely like anyone in my native language
>the more japanese I learn the more I'll dislike whomever I'm using to converse and improve with
fuck

>> No.21324685

>>21324669
this is good tho cuz ur staying true to urself and not being a muppet

>> No.21324688

what are some fun drama CDs?

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Post good life advice.

>> No.21324700

>>21324669
>not conversing with natives

>> No.21324831

what do you people listen to for listening practice?

>> No.21324839

eng hours of 10k subbed anime

>> No.21324848

>>21324831
i don't listen.

>> No.21324850

>>21324839
based

>>21324848
never gonna make it

>> No.21324856

>>21324850
i know i'm here for fun.

>> No.21324861

>>21324856
yea but making it is a lot of fun

>> No.21324864

>>21324850
Samefagging

>> No.21324866

>>21324861
i bet it's fun once you're there but listening to a bunch of super basic shit i can't understand isn't.

>> No.21324880

>>21324864
who asked u

>>21324866
nah dude its about the process
like even if u just pick up 5 words a day, u now know 5 more than u did yesterday
think of all the new connections between neurons in ur brain, thats pretty dope

>> No.21324893

>https://youtu.be/zH213QEckeg?t=6
>lol accent doesn't matter!
If you respond to this post claiming that you don't care about her accent or that you find her accent preferable over that of a native speaker then I simply think you're lying.

>> No.21324910

>>21324595
What exactly does he do for his business? As far as I can tell he posts a video thats basically him rambling to the camera without a script and no editing once every 2 weeks if he can be arsed.

>> No.21324917

>>21324866
just rewatch something you enjoy, then its fun even without understanding anything

>> No.21324926

>>21324893
god Chinese sounds so horrible.

>> No.21324931

>speaks chinese
>ching chang chong chung

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QCbaMqyG2tA

>> No.21324933

>>21324910
collabs with steve and yoga, reading up on acquisition theory, getting more input, managing his community and patreon, being a good son, etc. he probably only has a few hours of free time a day and would rather spend it talking with his best friend yoga about fun stuff than spending 3 hours a day talking to a native on italki. quizmaster is being unreasonable and so are you

>> No.21324937

>>21324866
are you saying you don't at least understand +70% of this?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LYjyoG-oksw

>> No.21324941

>>21324933
forgot to mention that when he does output/communicate he is focusing on pitch accent for now. he can learn to better articulate himself later. he's focusing on the fundamentals.

>> No.21324949

>>21324937
i don't have to click on the link and i know the answer is yes. i couldn't understand 1% of it, only individual words. but i might be able to read the transcription.

>> No.21324998

>>21323498
>アメリカ以外英語

無用な事だ

>> No.21325013

>>21324937
I'm at 0:03 and I'm already lost...

>> No.21325078

>>21321714
>>21321701
If that doesn't work you can try the opposite, fap and read raws (provided you can read)

>> No.21325139

I can't even tell if I'm reading this shit correctly. Even with jisho.

>> No.21325145

>>21322214
based

>> No.21325151

When you guys began reading VNs did you just power through even if you didn't know if your translations were correct or did you have some sort of way of making sure you interpreted it properly?

>> No.21325163

>>21325151
the first one

>> No.21325165

>>21325163
Thank god. Fuck the second one.

>> No.21325183

>>21325174
Exactly, stupid cunt.

>> No.21325194

>>21325151
i started by reading shit that has english versions available so i can check if i'm stuck, it made getting into reading much less painful

>> No.21325195

>>21325165
relevant krashen
https://youtu.be/pqVhgSvwWYk?t=1198

>>21325174
you don't know Japanese

>> No.21325214

>>21324937
man this shit is so lame i dont get drama cds

why wouldnt u just watch anime ?

>> No.21325217

>>21325195
So I had the right idea. Just needed a second opinion. Even if I did skip I'd be able to learn more, come back and understand better. I feel like a translation would be a crutch aside from checking for clarification. Or to actually follow the story.
>>21325194
Yeah, makes sense. At the moment I don't know if Axanael has a translation page. I'd use it but I'd treat it like a test. I'd say what I think the answer is and then check. But that should be the standard anyway.
Is that how you approached it?

>> No.21325223

>>21325151
i read cross channel in 2004 and took it at face value

lol

>> No.21325234

>>21324277
ok i finally got around to starting this and 21 secs in i rage quit at steve having pronoun identity crisis

i cant watch this shit i wont its so bad i should spend 21 mins doing literally anything else

>> No.21325237

if u cant switch between wareware and uchi in the same sentence u dont know japanese

>> No.21325246

>>21325217
>I'd say what I think the answer is and then check. But that should be the standard anyway.
>Is that how you approached it?
pretty much, what's important is that you don't try to map the english to the japanese 1:1, that's pointless because translators often don't translate literally, you don't want to spend much time with the english
read the japanese, if you absolutely can't figure out what a sentence is trying to tell you, skim the english version
then go back and see how that idea might be expressed in the japanese

>> No.21325247

>>21325214
Because it's literally made for listening, I always understand more from listening to drama CDs than watching raw anime.
Also that one doesn't have an anime.

>> No.21325250

honestly i was gonna rq here but no doubt 10 seconds later somethnig was gonna push me over the limit

https://streamable.com/3h6sr

>> No.21325266

>>21325250
what's wrong with that?

>> No.21325275

Kanji to Keyword rtk:
You learn to look at a kanji and using several means of deduction come to an english keyword that might help you remember the word you are learning/reading.

Keyword to Kanji rtk:
You're internalizing the kanji into your brain. The kanji are now personal to you to the point of recreation, and not even necessarily connected to english anymore. You don't 'figure them out' when reading anymore, you know them personally when reading.

I'm starting to think heisig was right all along.

>> No.21325282

>>21325275
Kanji shouldn't become keywords. They should become feelings.

>> No.21325297

>>21322982
fuck i just read that as ごう

>> No.21325324

>>21324694
is that saying to wipe your own ass's wiped leftovers by yourself

>> No.21325327

>>21325282
Yea you kind of have to do that with everything. File it into positive or negative, female or male, tangible or intangible, etc. I'm surprised writing the kanji is helping. It forces you to get so much more familar with them. You can write them in your head too.

>> No.21325331

Nobody who has done RTK has ever succeeded at learning Japanese.

>> No.21325342

>>21325331
except for everyone, brit vs japan, matt, yoga, etc.
show me the people who excelled and didn't use it?

>> No.21325345

I honestly get Matt. I could have easily been a Matt at an earlier stage in my life. I was out of high school and also had no idea what to do. I was never particularly great at anything in school and I felt I needed something to excel at and base my identity on. I also had an idea I wanted to learn Japanese because I had been fapping to hentai since I was 12 years old anyways. I even encountered AJATT at around that time as well.

However while I figured out a direction in which to develop professionally Matt just stuck with Japanese completely. His entire existence has been based on wanting to be "good at" Japanese. It's not even something he enjoys doing, or ever enjoyed if you really listen to him ramble about his past. He always treated is as a necessity. As the one thing he could potentially finally be better at than everyone else around him. Calling your youtube "Matt vs Japan" is pretty telling as well.

At this point he bases his entire life around the fact of "being good at" Japanese. It's not even that he would use his Japanese knowledge for anything, but just uses the "being good at Japanese" parlor trick to convince people who don't even speak the fucking language to pay him money for a discord server and a faint hope of getting good by association.

He has a pretty impressive command of the language for someone who has hardly ever been to the country honestly, but apart from that he doesn't have anything to go on really.

I get this is still immeasurably more than the swathes of lowlife NEETs that also cling to Japanese like their life depends on it have achieved, but it really isn't anything that impressive.

>> No.21325350

>>21325342
>brit vs japan, matt, yoga
Add nuke to that list, too

>> No.21325355

>>21325195
hey krashen is that guy that did that german speaking video demo that went viral decades after it happened, based

>> No.21325359

>>21325350
He went from n5 to almost n2 in the last year so sure

>> No.21325365

>>21325359
At this point I can't even tell if you're baiting, some people here are genuinely this retarded.

>> No.21325380

>>21325275
lol replace keywords with images, multiple ideally, to express the idealogical meaning of the kanji and maybe how it's used in the most common word and u might have a point

>> No.21325390

RTK is like lottery. Everyone knows it's near impossible to win it, most people who believe in it don't even know someone who has ever won it, but there's always that one guy who thinks he's special and that his odds are somehow different from everyone else. Trust me, it'll work this time bro! I've spent so much money on these tickets, there's no way I can stop now! Did you see that guy on the news who won $300,000? It's not impossible after all!!!!

>> No.21325399

>>21325380
your brain is capable of that, I did do that on my vocab for a long time but it didn't help as much as you'd think

>> No.21325405

Do you feel the kanji yet?

>> No.21325409

Does this sentence make sense?
社会の働くのが大嫌いな人はニットになっています.
Society's "people who hate to work" are becoming NEETs.
[働くのが大嫌いな人] can works as noun, right?

>> No.21325415

>>21325390
>RTK is like lottery
I think you might actually be retarded.

>> No.21325432

>>21325415
Insulting me when you don't have any arguments to back you up, that's rich lad. You should have used that fallacy of yours in the first post instead of citing a number of people who have been especifically ridiculised in this thread for having shit Japanese.

>> No.21325436

>>21325399
well vocab is diff than production of a (pictographic/logigraphic for many of them) character based purely on its ideological components. once you've mapped those concepts to those characters and can effortlessly produce them by thinking about a concept, then you can map them to vocab after separately understanding and visualizing the individual components. like 火+山, once you've had those solidified and can produce them by imagining a fire and imagining a mountain, then you can imagine a volcano, map that to the compound, and produce the compound word easily, except without such basic characters that anyone in their first week could get and with more complex or abstract shit.

either way this is purely for the production of kanji so obviously putting that on vocab cards isn't going to do magical wonders for recognition anyways

>> No.21325444

>>21325195
the "just teach these low IQ retards how to read better and everything will be OK" shit made me cringe

>> No.21325450

>>21325409
to me it sounds like ur saying that societies working peoples most hated/detested people are neets

wish i didnt read ur post now that i realized its JSL shit

>> No.21325452

>>21325409
I'm amazed you're able to produce such a competent sentence yet have no idea what a clause is.

>> No.21325453

>>21325432
You think that comparing a language learning method to "the lottery" is an arguement. LOL cute. Literally 99% of the people who ever got decent did rtk. Khatzumoto, matt, yoga, probably dogen, and thousands of others who aren't e celebs do too. Let me guess you hold down your yomi hotkey and think you know japanese. There's nothing to argue here, you're making IQ of 50 claims comparing gambling to memorization techniques.

>> No.21325464

>>21325436
There is a book out there where they do pictorial's of like the first 1000 kanji. I mean you kind of cut out the middle man if you can use your imagination though.

>> No.21325467

>>21325453
>Khatzumoto
When'd he ever do RTK? His main method of learning in immersion. Perhaps you're confusing him with mattato.
>matt
Yes, and he sucks.
>probably dogen
Now you're just reaching. Pathetic.
>thousands of others who aren't e celebs do too
And by "thousands of others" do you mean mouth-breathing redditors and easily impressionable AJATTfags?
>Let me guess you hold down your yomi hotkey and think you know japanese.
I've stopped using rikai years ago, lad. I see you're projecting a bit.

>> No.21325468

>>21325464
>cut out the middle man if you can use your imagination
yeah let me just make recall cards with my imagination on the fucking front u nig

>> No.21325481

>>21325467
>When'd he ever do RTK?
who the hell you think invented lazy kanji? lol
>matt sucks
why because the people here told you?

Show me all of the people that got gud who never did rtk? Please.

>> No.21325498

>>21325345
>I could have easily been a Matt at an earlier stage in my life
making over 30k a year putting in an hour of work a week? lol yea right

>> No.21325501

Even cure dolly says do rtk. Literally nobody is teaching not to do it or showing a better way. How brainlet can you be...

>> No.21325502

>>21325481
>why because the people here told you?
How about you actually watch some of his horrendous streams for once instead of blindly sucking his big MIA dick on online forums? I don't think there's a single one where he doesn't pathetically humiliate himself in front of his own viewers with his terrible accent and sheer lack of knowledge. Of course, you'd actually have to know Japanese in order to understand some of his mistakes without having someone spoonfeed them directly to you, so maybe I'm asking too much.
>Show me all of the people that got gud who never did rtk? Please.
Why yes, after you show me all of the people who've gotten good doing RTK of course.

>> No.21325506

>>21325467
kys

>> No.21325527

>>21325331
rtkなしで結構ペラペラになってきたこのわ・た・し : )

>> No.21325530

>>21325501
>Literally nobody is teaching not to do it or showing a better way
djt has created more fluent people per capita than any other method and djt says not to do RTK

>> No.21325539

>>21325530
that's funny because I was actually convinced to do rtk by somebody here

thanks whoever that was

>> No.21325549

>>21325539
I was convinced by Matt and regret the time waste. I have to remember that theory is theory and just because someone who is competent did something doesn't make it good.

>> No.21325550

>>21325539
Oh, that was probably a shitposter

>> No.21325555

>>21325539
How did they convince you? And when?

>> No.21325557

anyone who told u to do rtgay is an agent of satan and not the moe cute 1

>> No.21325560

jamal would be literally perfect if he didn't recommend 10k hours of eng subbed anime.

>> No.21325562

>>21325549
Because you're a brainlet who needs to be lead around to get anywhere. Try using critical thinking skills for once. Sorry you were dumb enough for RTK to traumatize you, but you have to let it go and realize it's your fault, not the source of information.

>> No.21325573

>>21325562
>Because you're a brainlet who needs to be lead around to get anywhere.
I am a brainlet and that's why I should rely on others. We live in a society. I just need to pay more attention.
>but you have to let it go and realize it's your fault, not the source of information.
That doesn't make sense. Intelligence is ingrained. I can't help being stupid. But you can hold intelligent con artists accountable.

>> No.21325575

>>21325560
i have to bc thats true to who i am give or take a few thousand hours

>> No.21325577

>>21325549
Theory is theory and I've tested just about everything to see what works. I have no regrets from rtk, except the first time I did it kanji to keyword and that was a time waste.
>>21325555
Two of the guys that got N1's in like january this year both recommended rtk. I don't think it's a necessity but it helps.

>> No.21325580

turns out n1 isnt a fluency test go figure haha

>> No.21325581
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21325581

but dont worry i have the highest possible score on it anyway just for laughs

>> No.21325584

>>21325573
Fair enough, but why not advertise RTK as something that some people shouldn't do, rather than put down the source and potentially put people who can handle it off the path?
>>21325577
Exactly. It's a supplement, not a main source for learning. Though it can be if approached properly.

>> No.21325587

>>21325584
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xVzK79undb0

>> No.21325590

>>21325584
Why would I want others to do RTK if I got all my cards mature and realized it was a waste of time? I'd rather advertise it as something the vast majority of people shouldn't do, including people who thought they should do it (that was me at one point).

>> No.21325594

>>21325584
Fore sure. I'm reading games, books, and misc other stuff all day and I know the importance of it. I also watch lots of content to connect the reading to the real words too. Now if you just did rtk in isolation that would probably be retarded.

>> No.21325598

tell me how u can do rtk and it not be in isolation

*leans back and kicks up feet*

go ahead

>> No.21325599

>>21325590
Just give a warning, dummy. If they continue after being warned then that's their fault.
>Why would I want others to do RTK if I got all my cards mature and realized it was a waste of time?
You don't have to want others to do it, but you can at least stop being dishonest about it. I understand your anger, but you gotta tell me exactly what you did with RTK.
Don't tell me you thought you would copy the whole book while never practicing your others skills and turn out fine?
>>21325594 knows what's up.

>> No.21325601

>>21325598
You study it on the side of practicing other skills that you don't get from doing kanji in isolation? Do you really need to be walked through this?

>> No.21325604

>>21325601
come on power up ur two digit iq and break into the triple digits for just 1 post in ur life

if ur doing other stuff on the side from rtk which is done in isolation by its very nature then that stuff ur doing on the side has nothing to do with rtk

*yawns and cracks knuckles*

>> No.21325612

>>21325604
kys

>> No.21325615

>>21325612
pipe down bitch boy

>> No.21325616

Do people here think that if they only practice one skill and end up not magically knowing how to speak, write or read japanese, that the method that they practiced with is bad?
What is wrong with you motherfuckers?
>Practice learning kanji only 1 year in
>"How come I don't know grammar? wtf u tricked me??"
>"Learning kanji is a terrible method of learning and we should stop beginners from doing that!"
>>21325604
lol. Do you're arguing that you shouldn't do RTK because you can't study it in isolation and learn everything that isn't made to teach? Are you retarded?
No one gives a fuck if you can't learn the entire language of japanese from RTK alone. It's meant for learning kanji and kanji alone. That's why you study kanji while you study grammar and speaking. They're skills that you need to practice separately. Your argument is that if you don't learn everything from isolated study, that it's not worth doing?
Absolute brainlet.

>> No.21325619

>>21325598
It's a targeted study but by limiting your daily time you get the laser etched knowledge of the kanji to supplement your reading. If you did rtk and didn't read anything the rest of the day then it's an isolated study to which you lose benefit.

>> No.21325623

>>21325599
>give a warning
Yea, this is my warning.
>but you can at least stop being dishonest about it
Where was I dishonest?
>I understand your anger, but you gotta tell me exactly what you did with RTK.
I spent 250 hours across several months on it. I started learning actual words that utilize the kanji afterwards and it was pretty easy because RTK gave me a familiarity with the characters. I took a break from learning for 6 months and came back after I had forgotten my stories for most characters. It turned out that I could still pick up new vocabulary easily. This is because you can develop a familiarity with the characters without using mnemonics. This is a perspective that people who do RTK alongside vocabulary don't have, because you can't separate the two and determine their actual contribution.

>> No.21325629

>>21325616
u cant even discern my point and have to construct an argument urself to attach to me in order to create any validity for ur vacuous posting

come back when u can rewrite ur entire post in japanese and ill acknowledge u with open arms

>>21325619
remember i never say rtk is bad necessarily just most users of it

tho lets be real forcing urself to recall english keywords for kanji is a permanent brain crippling that u will never undo

japanese ppl dont do it and u dont need to do it

>> No.21325635

>>21325616
lol exactly, there are people that actually exist that think you learn an entire language by just doing one thing apparently.

>> No.21325638

>>21325635
but u do learn language by doing 1 thing

interacting with it

low iq tards outta my pool

>> No.21325641

>>21325629
>recall english keywords for kanji
Then you did it wrong. You never did rtk proper if you think like that. I did it wrong the first time so I know. I'm 1138 kanji into writing it this time and it's a game changer because the kanji exist in my head. That's the point of why I brought it up today.

>> No.21325645

>>21325635
since when does saying that rtk is dumb mean that people only think it's dumb because it doesn't make you fluent

>> No.21325647

>>21325641
uve been writing ur kanji havent u

if u mentioned it in 1 of the longer posts above i prolly didnt read it

>> No.21325652

>>21325641
>and it's a game changer because the kanji exist in my head
lol no it's not you retard. you don't need a picture-perfect recollection of kanji based off an english keyword in order to be able to instantly recognize and understand written japanese. this is why rtk cultists are so fucking dumb holy shit

>> No.21325656

>>21325647
I wrote them out every time for a while but eventually just write it in my head and can still write them on paper. It has the same effect and is way more efficient.

>> No.21325659

>>21325623
So you stopped learning japanese and forgot most of what you learned because you didn't practice. It's a matter of consistency. You can't stop practicing something for 6 months, wonder why you forgot when you didn't continue to build myelan through practice.
You're supposed to build a familiarity with the mnemonics and eventually branch off without them.

Similar to construction in drawing. You can then draw memory from something you've practiced so much that you no longer need the help from the mnemonic.
>>21325645
Because I'm not saying that all people are saying that. I'm replying to what jamal thinks is a defense for hating it.
>>21325635
They're stubborn about it too. Or they're just trying to lead beginners down the wrong path by acting like you can't study things separately. They think that you either do 10000 hours of anime or you do RTK by itself. It's a different kind of retardedness.

>> No.21325662

>>21325652
The keyword isn't even really important, the kanji is. No wonder you don't like rtk, you did it wrong lol

>> No.21325663

>just write it in my head

https://streamable.com/yg0wk

>> No.21325668

>>21325656
I love you, anon. This is exactly what I'm saying. It sucks that people are so averse to learning to write. They're missing out on a good memory device.
>>21325647
Stay mad, kanjilet.

>> No.21325673

>>21325659
>So you stopped learning japanese and forgot most of what you learned because you didn't practice.
Correct. And when I came back and started reading again I could still easily pick up new words despite no longer being able to write the vast majority of kanji. This is how I know that RTK is a waste of time, at least if you're using it in order to improve your kanji-recognition skills.

>> No.21325674

>>21325659
ill echo 1 important thing vaguely pointed at in this post about consistency

its of way more benefit to spend 30 mins a day reading/watching than it is to spend 3 hours reading/watching 1 or 2 days a week

if u aint got japanese in ur life every got dang day u aint makin it period

>> No.21325679

>>21325662
i did it exactly how heisig recommended it, keyword on front, kanji on back. leave your cult

>> No.21325680

>>21325668
why would u @ that post and tell me to stay mad

ive always advocated writing but i rarely talk about it these days cuz zoomers gonna zoom lol

>> No.21325688

>>21325195
https://youtu.be/-12bzTZD1eY?t=888

>> No.21325691

>>21325688
jesus christ

>> No.21325693

>>21325688
oh great another youtuber that thinks shes an educator

whered she get her teaching degree at lol

>> No.21325699

>>21325688
>gook that also speaks chinese
the ultimate easy mode

>> No.21325704

>>21325673
I mean my point is that you would have no problem remembering the kanji if you kept practicing. I mean I'm glad you're admitting that it can be helpful if you want to recognize kanji, but using that as an argument when you refused to take part in a vital part of the learning/retaining process is weird to me. I think you think that once you practice something enough to have it in your 'long-term memory' that it stays there forever even when you haven't encountered it for months at a time.
It seems like it would work that way and it doesn't.
I've had too much experience with stuff like this. Stuff like drawing or animating that I've been practicing for months slipping out of my memory when I try to do it again..
Like I get where you're coming from and why you're thinking like this but it just isn't how it works.
>>21325680
Oh my bad, I thought your reply was malicious.

>> No.21325721
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>>21325668
I'm not aware if this is the right thread, if it's not please kindly point me towards the right thread.

I would like the following sentence translated for a a draw request I'll be taking on.

"D-do you like my new sweater Anon?"

What japanese font should I use?

>> No.21325733

>>21325704
>you would have no problem remembering the kanji if you kept practicing
You're confused. I wasn't lamenting the fact that I forgot how to write the kanji after 6 months of not practicing it. My point was that you don't need to be able to write kanji in order to recognize them, as my inability to write or recall the meaning of a kanji after those 6 months (yet still pick up new words easily) demonstrates.

>> No.21325739

>>21325721
わ-わたしはげい、あのん?

>> No.21325746

>>21325733
Oh, then we have nothing we disagree on. You're right. I misread what you wrote, sorry.

>> No.21325748

>>21325739
Thanks man, I really appreciate this! :^)

>> No.21325750

>>21325721
anon、この私のマイ・ニュ・セーターど、どうだ

>> No.21325752

>>21325739
>>21325748
Shouldn't watashi and hage be in kanji though?
I'm no expert in japanese

>>21325750
Hold on, which translation should I take now?

>> No.21325755

>>21325739
KEK

>> No.21325761

>>21325752
u should take mine the other guy was saying my popular catchphrase "im gay" in japanese to "meme" u

>> No.21325765

>>21325721
匿名君があーあたしの新しいセーターを好きだ?

>> No.21325767

>>21325761
yours is worse
"watashi no my"

>> No.21325771

>>21325767
u dont know japanese

>> No.21325773

>>21325581
i miss my mx518

>> No.21325774

>>21325616
The point is not that RTK is useless, it's that it takes up a huge portion of your time up front if you start with it.

I get it, ideally a beginner should already be set out to commit the next 2-5 years of his life to this language. But the reality is this is now how this works. The most likely effect from telling people to do 3-4 months of Keyword-Kanji practice up front is that people are going to quit because you really don't see a benefit from it except way down the road.

Personally I think it's important to pace yourself and make decent progress across the whole language instead of diving deep into one aspect while ignoring the others.

>> No.21325777

>>21325771
sure

>> No.21325778

>>21325771
>私のマイ
lolololololol

>> No.21325779

why is all the newblood suiciding on my post that wasnt the intent but ill take it ?

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>>21325761
I don't understand "hage" in this context at all, and he doesn't seem to use any kanji which is really weird

>>21325765
This one seems the best

I'm not anywhere near good in japanese though, maybe I shouldn't have asked this on 4chan, well the drawing isn't really for myself anyway so I don't care too much

>> No.21325782

>>21325774
Yeah, that's exactly my point. I guess I misunderstood along the way and was arguing with myself.

>> No.21325783

we actually need quizzie here to destroy these rtk idiots

>> No.21325788

>>21325781
わたしはげい is わたしはゲイ in japanese

>> No.21325789

>>21325783
>He can't do it himself
Sorry I had to do it to you, little bro.

>> No.21325794

>>21325789
you got dumpstered by 3 people but quizzie needs to DESTROY you

>> No.21325799

>>21325721
why is someone requesting you to write in japanese when they themselves cant write in japanese lmao

>> No.21325801

anon, この セーター似合う?

>> No.21325803

>>21325781
>匿名君があーあたしの新しいセーターを好きだ?
I wrote it how you said it, although I don't know all the context and what not

>> No.21325806

>>21325774
i wish i had something inspiring to tell adult aged children who now want to suddenly start learning japanese

i just think its impossible for them

if u didnt get into it as a kid ur just not gonna make it

i mean steve is 69 years old and hes not even close to native what hope do u have

>> No.21325810

>>21325783
I've never heard him say anything bad about rtk? And who actually looks up to him lol

>> No.21325812

>>21325788
Oh, okay, I wonder where that stems from.
Is there no kanji for being gay?

>>21325793
I've just started beginning learning japanese again since yesterday, I can't read any kana anymore.

That's why I asked in this thread for a translation.

Also I can't make out the words really because there's no kanji, so that was a red flag right after I thanked him
see >>21325752

>>21325803
I think I'll take yours I hope it doesn't say something weird though, do you have any font recommendations?

>> No.21325813

>>21325803
no offense but it looks almost like a scanlation with the origin and destination languages swapped lmao

>> No.21325817

>>21325810
>I've never heard him say anything bad about rtk?
he has several times. he learns to write by putting his anime card sentences on the front with the kanji/word replaced with kana, and the kanji on the back. and i look up to quizzie almost as much as i do matt

>> No.21325818

>>21325794
Destroy me? What was my argument again?
>>21325806
>t. fell for the 'brain plasticity as you age means that you can never learn again' meme

>> No.21325822

onore no seーtaー de dasitemitaindakedo

>> No.21325825

>>21325818
i mean its not a meme if its 100% true at all times

bring me a success story

>> No.21325831

>>21325825
me

>> No.21325833

cum on a セーター

>> No.21325835

if you do rtk or not it doesnt matter 90% of you will fail dakara sukini suruga yoi

>> No.21325838

>>21325739
>>21325793
Oh, I understand now

Wa-watashi wa gei

Forgot that ha really means wa

>> No.21325839

just learn in romaji

>> No.21325840

90% ???

u think 1 out of the last 10 not me posters is gonna make it? lmao

>> No.21325841

>>21325825
People who interpret these things are usually laymen and they take face value conclusions from very complicated studies. I don't know what to say to you other than most people are garbage at learning how to learn. Nothing to do with age.

>> No.21325843

i was just being nice

>> No.21325845

>>21325806
What the hell is peoples end goal with this language anyways? Do you all want to be "native like"? Why?
Because people here treat it like a competition? Personally I'm fine with understanding things, being able to read and communicate somewhat decently. I don't get where this autistic ambition with being "perfect" at a foreign language comes from.

>> No.21325846

>>21325801
>anon, この セーター似合う
I'll take this I don't trust these other anons anymore

>> No.21325847

wtf what ever happened to the nice dudes that used to be like "yeah man just keep doing nihongo and you'll get there eventually" why is it that suddenly all of you guys are being big meanies

>> No.21325848

>>21325835
Only correct interpretation.

>> No.21325849

>>21325841
i mean i agree

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uS3wWZEAgsk

i just wanna see the 幻のsuccess story

>> No.21325852

>>21325846
thats basically the runner up to mine its at least not complete wrong dogshit so u can use that 1 and be fine

>> No.21325855

>>21325845
cuz matto convinced thousands of people to want something they never knew they wanted or cared about before

>> No.21325859

>>21325852
This one I can understand myself if I translate niau with jisho.org, it would kind of ruin the drawing if she said something weird.

>> No.21325870

>>21325852
>>21325859
Can I add 'kedo' or 'desu kedo' do indicate some form of doubt?

>> No.21325871

>>21325845
i mean that mindset is really the only way ur truly gonna make it

cuz the truth of it is "making it" starts at day one >>21322459

>> No.21325872

word of the day
森羅万象

>> No.21325875

>>21325870
what you want to use is "kana"

>> No.21325876

>>21325870
no plz dont touch anything

>> No.21325891

>>21325884
by uninstalling

>> No.21325895

>>21325883
oh u can and should add a ? to the end of it tho

>> No.21325902

how far do most people get before giving up? i just can't imagine stopping at any point.

>> No.21325904

oh nvm i see it was there in the original post just not ur quote

>>21325902
as long as u like stuff from japan it never ends : )

>> No.21325906

>>21325895
It already has a ? at the end of the sentence.

What does "kana" mean in grammar? Usually it's something along kedo to indicate doubt, or is it?

>> No.21325911

to supplement

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XYWWcYYpk3A

>> No.21325912

>>21325902
Same here. If I ever do I'll come back and tell everyone who shit on me that they were right. I doubt it though since I've been able to stick with many things and I can tell if I'll make the investment. Though I have had my doubts about whether what I'm doing is pointless or not. Even though I'm just doing it for fun.

>> No.21325914

>>21325875
>>21325906
u can do this

it does basically what u want in grammar is how id explain it in grammar

>> No.21325918

>>21325902
after doing nothing but anki for 1 year and finding out they have almost nothing to show for it and their only interaction with the language is boring shit and they forget why they wanted learn to in the first place

>> No.21325923

>>21325912
fun is never pointless

>> No.21325927

I've finished RTK. It is purely for learning to write / recall kanji. When you read a word that you're not familiar you CAN recognize kanji and perhaps their meaning, but it's definitely not guaranteed. To recognize the meaning / pronunciation of a certain kanji requires a completely different method. Sure, sometimes when I get stuck on a certain word I focus intently on the radicals and it can help me decipher the meaning, but that does not come naturally. Recognizing kanji when you see it with speed and ease is something that requires something that is not RTK.
And that something is called READING.

>> No.21325932

a-anon, ko-kono seta niau kana?
there you go

>> No.21325935

>>21325927
We need a daily reminder in all caps of this.

>> No.21325938

>>21325927
Thirded.

>> No.21325946

imagine every1 quoting an essentially longwinded "read more" post and acting like this is the breath of fresh air this thread needs lmao

>> No.21325950

most just don't "get it" the benefits of rtk are infinite and impossible to see like it makes you read faster remember more and make it all more comprehensible and it's the only way to learn how to write basically rtk is a gift from nihonjesus

>> No.21325957

>>21325946
when it's long they get invested in the message. and are more likely to agree facts and logic etc.

>> No.21325964

rtk isn't something you can learn you just get it or you don't

>> No.21325965

>>21325151
The VNs I read didn't have any translations, so I just powered through. I remember one time where I didn't understand a conversation, then 2 routes later I read a line and suddenly realized what the previous conversation was talking about. If you keep reading, most things will become clear.

There is nothing worse than beating your head against the wall trying to understand something, then you finally give up and move on, and the next sentence explains everything. You never know if you are confused because you are shit at Japanese or because you are supposed to be confused.

When I read ReLIFE and Zero no Tsukaima, I checked the English translations sometimes if I was confused. Oftentimes I could tell that the translator didn't understand it either. By the time I got to the 3rd ZnT LN, I think I checked the translation once for the whole volume.

>> No.21325968

>>21325946
The argument I had with you earlier is the reason this post exists. It's more than just a reminder to read more. It's a reminder that you have to study multiple things to learn, not just one. All you're focusing on is the 'just read' part when it isn't even the core of the message.

>> No.21325971

このassでよかったら召し上がれ lol

>> No.21325972

>>21325946
I quoted it because it states that RTK doesn't lead to recognition skills which is the trap most beginners fall into. Also RTK is gay.

>> No.21325973

onna no assu nametai

>> No.21325977

>>21325968
ur right cuz that other shit u said is mostly common sense so i just went right to the main point

>> No.21325979

>>21325965
>Oftentimes I could tell that the translator didn't understand it either
wtf are translations for popular japanese media genuinely this bad?

>> No.21325981

imouto ashi peroperositai

>> No.21325984

>>21325871
But what the fuck does "making it" even mean?
For some people that is just an empty phrase that gets substituted for a moving goalpost. If you can name a grand total of 1 or 2 people at max who "made it" how can you be so convinced you're ever going to "make it" yourself anyways.

>> No.21325990

>>21325902
You'll give up the moment you can read stuff you actually want to read without having to look words up in the dictionary or think twice about the meaning of stuff you're reading.

>> No.21325992

just be confident

>> No.21325993

>>21325965
Glad to hear. So basically just more studying as I go along, until it eventually clicks.
>>21325977
Apparently not, since you were arguing earlier about how people shouldn't do it because it doesn't teach you everything. lol
You still manage to miss the entire point.

>> No.21325994

>>21325984
making isnt an endgoal

its a choice u make (or dont) every single day

>> No.21326000

>>21325993
quote 1 post where i said dont do rtk cuz it doesnt teach u everything

>> No.21326003

what's a good character to play that would really spice up djt? like another trip user.

>> No.21326005

>>21325990
that's not giving up that's just succeeding

>> No.21326008

jishin ga aru
tabun

>> No.21326013

>>21326003
a chad who discourages any non real life/real person oriented goal for learning, i.e. shitting on all the terrible weeb moeshit you fags are learnijng for

>> No.21326014

>>21326005
if matt taught us anything the only activities worth doing in your life are the ones that translate into a lot of new Anki cards.

>> No.21326016

>>21326003
hello this is jamals mother speaking please forgive my foul mouthed wanker of a son i dont know what im gonna do with him he wont even come to dinner anymore in favour of posting on this bloody computer all dang day

>> No.21326019

>>21326013
kys

>> No.21326032

>>21325977
>tell me how u can do rtk and it not be in isolation
>if ur doing other stuff on the side from rtk which is done in isolation by its very nature then that stuff ur doing on the side has nothing to do with rtk
I mean I got that from this but I'm realizing how retarded you are because you didn't even follow the conversation.

>> No.21326034

just gonna say if you're "learning" cuz you want to "talk to people" or "get a good job" you're gonna get fucked

>> No.21326038

Follow the great philosopher Antisthenes by doing whatever pleases you the most.

>> No.21326039

>>21326032
u cant do rtk in anything but isolation

either its in isolation or ur doing something that is not strictly rtk

still waiting for u to tell me how u can

if ur doing other things that arent rtk it is not rtk

get rkt low iq turd

>> No.21326043

>>21326039
Seconded.

>> No.21326044

>>21326039
>u cant do rtk in anything but isolation
It's a good thing that no one said that and that we were talking about doing it alongside reading and learning grammar.

>> No.21326046

i just want to read my loli vns!

>> No.21326050

*thrusts ur own op thru ur chest delivering the epic deathblow* >>21325594

>> No.21326052

i'm gonna play some csgo

>> No.21326054

>>21326046
you can do it

>> No.21326055

>>21326044
then it's not rtk

>> No.21326057

>>21326046
Lead me to the loli VNs. That's the main reason I'm learning japanese. All of the untranslated booty I'm missing out on.

>> No.21326060

>>21326057
crriiinnnggeee

>> No.21326062

>>21326055
kys

>> No.21326064

>>21326057
https://vndb.org/v18875

>> No.21326065

>>21326055
No one's arguing whether it's RTK or not. We're saying to use it to aid you along the way. It doesn't HAVE to be RTK.

>> No.21326073

>>21326057
this vn will change your life https://vndb.org/v16343

>> No.21326075

>>21326065
imagine living in a fantasy land where people arent currently talking about rtk

>> No.21326087
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>>21326073
dang mc gettin a mouthful here

>> No.21326094

>>21325845
>What the hell is peoples end goal with this language
it's a journey not a destination, what is your end goal in life?

>> No.21326096

>>21326094
live hard and die happy

>> No.21326112

>>21326087
it must be heaven

>> No.21326114
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>>21326055
>it's not rtk
>if you learn anything else on the side
wtf?

>> No.21326122

can 1 of u programming nerds lay out exactly what it means to be in the state of currently doing rtk lol

>> No.21326131

if you dont watch anime while you do rtk you're fucked

>> No.21326150

>>21326087
wish that was me with japanese ammo no misa lol

>> No.21326162

>>21326150
based

>> No.21326171

>>21326150
misa is mine
fuck off

>> No.21326215

>mouth is pronounced coochie
I no longer want to learn japanese

>> No.21326223

onna no kuchibiru nametai

>> No.21326248

imouto no kuchimanko no naka ni dasitemitai

>> No.21326266

あたしの口を汚れて
意気地なし

>> No.21326273

i love ojousamas

>> No.21326289

I love kyonyuus

>> No.21326315

>>21326215
it isn't, burger

>> No.21326331

>>21325502
lol, forget native reactions to his japanese being good, all hail 4chan, all hail djt

>> No.21326334

https://streamable.com/l6h0h

>> No.21326339

1 min reaction time くすくす

>> No.21326364

>>21326331
I like the part where he says "how about you actually watch his streams" and "I don't think there's a single one" (so he's watched a bunch of them) and the whole narrative is how the other guy is the m*tt follower. Ironic shit posting at it's best.

>> No.21326376

>>21325502
the worst thing is he talks like a cartoon character with a lot of conviction in the canned phrases that come out of his mouth lmao

u can tell he just jumps from canned phrase to canned phrase to canned phrase lmao

>> No.21326397

>>21326375
it's not that kind of slang
like how うるさい can be said as うるせぇ
you just have to know the words they're trying to say and get used to how japanese people talk, it's something you can look up

>> No.21326403

>>21326397
can't*

>> No.21326443

>>21326375
Honestly, if the slang is that much of an issue for you I would suggest just picking up something with less or next to no slang. The slang will be much easier to understand once your vocabulary is wider (vncore) and by the sounds of it you havent even finished that yet. So don’t stop reading, just find something else on a lesser or similar level but with less slang involved.

>> No.21326458

>>21326443
such as?

>> No.21326478

>>21323298
Name of the app?

>> No.21326544

>>21326375
this shit right here is why all grammar guides need to include a section on slang. it doesn't fucking take up that much space to write a short segment on how "if youre tryin to look up a word and it isn't working it might be slangified, such as changing an あい sound to えぇ or how a whole fucking chunk like てしまう can become ちまえ as in わかっちまえば"

>> No.21326580
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>>21324129
u gotta want it cuz it aint gonna be gentle
if uve never read anything at all hold off
this is what ull be greeted with
see the chart for ez vns

>> No.21326612

>>21326544
how far do u go
with how bad some of the fresh blood ive seen in this thread is ud need to write a fuckin essay and bundle it with a cirno fumo so that when they get scared they have a hand to hold
how much is enough
some people are fuckin dead and the rest are gonna overcome it on their own

>> No.21326620

Matt's cult has been harassing Steve over that interview video they did.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=paOjNsk7B-c
>It seems that nowadays if we don't agree with someone we are held to be close-minded or worse. Disagreement is healthy. We can listen to arguments and disagree with ideas. We don't all have to fall into line. I say this with reference to the amazing number of aggressive comments to the following video interview I had with Matt vs Japan.

>> No.21326635

>>21326620
u have to understand cultists think the world is black and white
theyve found the truth and ur an obstacle if u dont drop down in reverence
steves too old for this shit

>> No.21326645

>>21326620
Mattat is so insecure about his ability that he needs to send his army of dekinais to sabotage our boy Steve, who unlike him is actually successful in the language learning business.

>> No.21326664

以上必ず

What does this mean. kotobank and weblio aren't helping me

>> No.21326671
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>>21326620
imagine harassing a 70 year old man because he didn't conform to an autists world view

>> No.21326682

>>21326664
[no less than] [for certain]

>> No.21326694

>>21326679
辛いことや悲しいことは、僕が旅をしている以上必ず、行く先々にたくさん転がっているものだと思ってる

>> No.21326696

>>21326544
https://boirodaisuki.neocities.org/#nee

>> No.21326714

>>21326664
That's probably because it's not a set phrase or word. What's the full context? Is it in a longer sentence? 詳しく説明しろお前

>> No.21326720

>>21326714
>>21326694

>> No.21326724

>>21326694
[辛いことや悲しいことは]、[僕が旅をしている以上][必ず、行く先々にたくさん転がっているものだと思ってる]

>> No.21326738

>>21326724
So, I'm supposed to mentally break it up that way? It certainly isn't written like that

>> No.21326739

>>21326478
It's called Bound. It's paid though.

>> No.21326740

>>21326738
Yes.

>> No.21326742

>>21326740
Okay, thank you for your help

>> No.21326745
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21326745

BTW seems Matt is taking me pretty seriously haha I wonder if he goes here himself or one of you guys are reporting what goes on here to him.

>> No.21326751

>>21326694
I read it like "At least I was able to go on a trip"

>> No.21326754

>>21326745
wat, did you dm matt some more and he couldn't resist replying or what?

>> No.21326757

>>21326745
Verify this isn't shopped

>> No.21326764

>>21326758
he sought you out cuz you were hateposting on 4chan? lol thats pretty fuckin sad

what was the comment tho cuz i didnt see it pls spoonfeed

>> No.21326765

>>21326751
Good job, you are good enough to get a job at NISAmerica

>> No.21326772

>>21326764
Just scroll up or search for my name, it's in this thread.

>> No.21326779

>>21326745
He's right though. Except he shouldn't say that you're arguing with the losers because that implies you aren't one.

>> No.21326784

>>21326745
what are u gonna do when u make it big enough to have ur own minions reading djt for u and reporting back every time ur name comes up
soon ull be able to put ur feet up and let the kids shit up the thread for u

>> No.21326785

>>21326779
the thing is, the funniest part is, that those very same losers? matt cant STAND that they don't like him. you should have heard the way he talked about his detractors when he was in the qm's discord. he almost started shaking (this isn't an exaggeration) when he went on this long awkward tirade about how he imagined his haters were but then was like "but haha that's not you guys after all you're like totally normal and stuff!" "i'm a person behind my screen too please don't be mean"

>> No.21326790

Why would he let someone do it for him when that's all he does all day. What would he do instead?

>> No.21326793

>having a staff of designated shit posters doing my bidding
#lifegoals

>> No.21326797

>Let's just believe a screencap with no proof
these replies to quizmaster has gotta be quizmaster on another device

>> No.21326800

Based boomer Steve destroying Matt's army of zoomers.

>> No.21326801

>>21326797
shit matt's replied to me like 5 times.. he's just another dude cult boy

>> No.21326804

Who is quizmaster?

>> No.21326807

Also, Steve really nails down their cult like behaviour in that video, but unfortunately never goes the extra mile of using the word "cult".

>> No.21326811

>>21326804
a narcissist who has a hard time controlling his narcissistic urges

>> No.21326812

>>21326804
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xrYL07hPw4w

>> No.21326815

A freak who obssesses over shit no one cares about.

>> No.21326817

>>21326784
I'd be fighting at the front lines together with my minions together.

>> No.21326821

>>21326807
He doesn't have to, he knows that the second he uses the word "cult" people will think he's just lashing out because cult is a buzzword, even though they are pretty much a cult.

>> No.21326822

jibun ha kuizumasutaー dearumai

>> No.21326826

>>21326817
Stop avoiding my reply pussy, prove the screenshot

>> No.21326831

>>21326826
How would I prove it?

>> No.21326835

>>21326807
he never actually says anything negative or aggressive and thats the point
let the cultists get worked up and flounder when they try to find something he actually did wrong

>> No.21326836

>>21326784
>>21326817
Expanding on what I said, the difference between me and Matt:

https://streamable.com/hua6c

>> No.21326837

I'm ready to try my first vn. Any recommendations? I don't care too much about the story, but I want some sexy girls, good art, and the more erotic the better. Not hard to read either but not babies first read.

>> No.21326839

God, why did he have to come back so early. The threads were much better the days he was gone. Here go again with the stupid e-drama shit.

>> No.21326843

>>21326831
give us access to your account

>> No.21326849

>>21326837
nanairo reincarnation

>> No.21326850

>>21326839
You expect a serial narcissist to be able to contain their urges? You gotta 卒業 anon

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>>21326745
You're such a sycophantic little cretin. Before Matt destroyed you in your quiz you were shit-talking him, calling him and his associates a "circle jerk homo cult" of "mediocre language learners" who were scamming retards, and now it seems you can't take your tongue out of his asshole.

Did you ever apologize to him for the things you've said, or do you just hope he never finds out about them?

>> No.21326873

>>21326837
Dies Irae

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>>21326826

>> No.21326879

>>21326870
>sycophantic

on the contrary, the sycophant is Matt. The kid crawled to QMs discord to try and suck up to him and say "and we all happily agreed to disagree and understand eachother and our methods now!" without ever budging or really considering his methods

>> No.21326885

>>21326879
Get over it. Imagine being mad the someone wants to stop being a childish loser and get over differences. Grow the fuck up you manchildren. Do you have any responsibilities?

>> No.21326887

>>21326885
yes actually, even more responsibilities than pooping out 1 video a week about how to change a config option in anki matt

>> No.21326891

>>21326870
I don't know why you say I'm sycophantic when Matt DMing me was probably motivated by me shittalking his current level in the thread and saying I want to get past that.
And that reply was to yoga who I really just wanted to set off after he told me to take it to Twitter lmao.

>> No.21326893

>>21326887
I guess we all can't learn from getting older. You'll stay a drama/attention-seeking wench until old age. I can't imagine giving a fuck about this stupid shit.

>> No.21326895

>>21326893
and yet you are here, btw i'm not even involved lol i just think you're pathetic for not seeing matt as the sycophant. qm is a retarded autistic spergy narcissist but that's besides the point when it comes to matt

>> No.21326900

>>21326839
Filter him. It's funny seeing how much of the thread gets nuked by the filter whenever he pops up. Really shows you just how much he shits the place up by his mere presence.

>> No.21326905

>>21326900
How do you filter on 4chan x? I've tried everything. It's so weird.

>> No.21326908

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Narcissistic_personality_disorder#Signs_and_symptoms
>Grandiosity with expectations of superior treatment from other people
>Fixation on fantasies of power, success, intelligence, attractiveness, etc.
>Self-perception of being unique, superior, and associated with high-status people and institutions
>Need for continual admiration from others
>Sense of entitlement to special treatment and to obedience from others
>Exploitation of others to achieve personal gain
>Unwillingness to empathize with the feelings, wishes, and needs of other people
>Intense envy of others, and the belief that others are equally envious of them
>Pompous and arrogant demeanor

Seek help, Quiztard. You are sick in the head.

>> No.21326910

>>21326891
Quiz it came up earlier and just wanted to know your opinion on rtk, for the record. How against it are you and did you use it or at least try it?

>> No.21326913

>>21326745
Look look senpai noticed me

>> No.21326915 [DELETED] 

>>21326905
Click the downward arrow next to one of his post numbers, then Filter > Name.

Alternatively, click the spanner at the top right of the screen, click the Filter tab, then in the drop down menu select "Name" and either enter /^(?!Anonymous$)/ (will filter every single namefag) or /^(?!Quizmaster$)/ (will filter Quizmaster only).

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>>21326905
Come on. The filter's literally already written down for you.

>> No.21326918

Haha I can't take people seriously when they say the thread was better before me. It has been a constant offtopic shitposting stream for years now and nobody is stopping you from posting something good and relevant driving out this kind of discussion. And I AM giving you the option to filter you by using a trip so really I am helping you get rid of all the shitposting.

>>21326908
I may be but I don't think I'd benefit from a diagnosis. People have ascribed other mental illnesses to me here as well.

>>21326910
I'll type out my reply to you in a minute.

>> No.21326922

Click the downward arrow next to one of his post numbers, then Filter > Name.

Alternatively, click the spanner at the top right of the screen, click the Filter tab, then in the drop down menu select "Name" and either enter /^(?!Anonymous$)/ (will filter every single namefag) or /^Quizmaster$/ (will filter Quizmaster only).

>> No.21326926

>>21324428
Lmao you're one to talk. I've seen you type Japanese in your server and you talk like a fucking anime character except on top of that it's obvious you're not a native speaker.

>> No.21326928

>>21326918
You are mentally ill and need help.

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>>21326917
Nah, don't know why it's much different than yours. If I could still work with it I'm too much of a brainlet to be able to.
>>21326922
I didn't even know it was that simple. Was only trying it manually. Can't thank you enough.

>> No.21326937

>>21326918
>And I AM giving you the option to filter you by using a trip so really I am helping you get rid of all the shitposting.
After all of this you still convince yourself that you're doing anything at all. You could just stride to the endgame of your generosity and just shut the fuck up, freak.

>> No.21326941

>>21326918
>I don't think I'd benefit from a diagnosis
No shit. You already know yourself to be self-absorbed, and there's no stopping this cancerous, self-sufficient disposition. You couldn't NOT be a narcissist if you tried, and you ultimately like that, whether or not you have the balls to admit it.

>> No.21326943

>>21326930
Are you having a stroke? Speak English, please.

>> No.21326944

matt, please, calm down. you're scaring the kids.

>> No.21326945

>>21326910
I probably seemed very disapproving of RTK before, but I think that is more due to it being a beginner ressources being discussed here constantly. I also see an issue with what people think they get out of RTK. If they understand that they don't get the ability to write or read Japanese from it and still want to use it I'm fine with that. I think there is certain advantages to doing it and that it's not a total waste of time, but if your goal was to write real Japanese you'd have to invest time learning to do that anyway in which case my method would probably more time efficient. I did like 100 Kanji before dropping it and worked through KKLC instead. I don't particularly recommend that either though.

>> No.21326951

>>21326937
If I stop shitposting the e-celeb and offtopic shit doesn't stop though, the only difference is that it wouldn't be filtered due to being in my reply chain anymore.

>>21326941
I've said plenty of times that I enjoy getting (you)s and you guys don't stop giving them. To a certain extend it is your own fault. If I was ignored constantly I'd be out of here in a day.

>> No.21326952

>>21326945
Cool, thanks for the honest opinion.

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>> No.21326972

>>21326951
>acting as if half of the (you)s you get aren't from yourself
well played narcissist, well played

>> No.21326976

>>21326972
What you actually think I'm sitting here turning my trip and off replying to myself? Wild imagination.

>> No.21326977

This is what happens when you let discord into your thread, guys.

>> No.21326982

>>21326964
imagine m*tt at 70, alone, full of regret and crying because he threw away the best years of his life locked in his room meditating and feeding his ego online

>> No.21326984

Am I wrong in thinking that Jamal gives this guy more attention than anyone and acts as the biggest encouragement for him to keep coming here?

>> No.21326985

>>21326965
wtf is this shit

>> No.21326986

>>21326985
magic

>> No.21326987

>>21326977
It really is, isn't it. He should just go to reddit or something.

>> No.21326990

>>21326984
It's only natural for a shitposter to encourage another shitposter.

>> No.21326991

>>21326976
>that's the only possible way you could reply to yourself without showing that you're replying to yourself
nice false dichotomy fuck-wit

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>>21326977
The problem is that he got banned from discord (can't imagine why) so now he's turned DJT into his own personal discord channel instead.

>> No.21327001

>>21326982
Imagine the wide-scale rejoicing that will take place when mattoddler dies

>> No.21327002

>>21326918
I thought you were supposed to take your trip off

>> No.21327007

>>21327002
narcissism supersedes rules or promises

>> No.21327017

>>21327002
That's old news please keep up with my blogposting.

>> No.21327038

>>21326994
I always find it funny you people link that post when it was written by the BR Discord mod /int/ poster himself. The guy who despises /jp/ with a passion and is a complete Japanese learning failure in addition to that. I've been posting on here since I started learning but I suppose the BR mod finally losing his shit and banning me did trigger me challenging /jp/ to Quiz initially so I guess it's kind of right too.
I don't call myself Mary btw, it was in my nickname for some time but I constantly change it and that one is simply what I keep getting called by others.

>> No.21327042

>>21326991
How am I replying to myself then . . . ?

>> No.21327044

>>21327017
No I don't want to sit in this shitty thread all day but it looks like you're still keepin it up a month later lol.
I feel lied to.

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ur lucky im always here to fix ur fuckin charts

>> No.21327049

>>21326990
I really wish he'd stop it. He knows Quiztard is too much of an insecure narcissist to resist taking the bait, so he's constantly winding him up for his own amusement, not giving a shit that he's making the thread 100x worse than it needs to be in doing so. Even when you try to filter this shit, the Quiztard drama keeps leaking out because of Jamal not quoting people properly as well.

I was starting to think that Jamal wasn't actually so bad lately, but I'm really starting to change my mind. Now I'm wishing he'd put a trip on so I could filter him as well. Him and Quiztard both need to go.

>> No.21327050

>>21327044
Oh sorry for that. A lot of things have been happening and changing and ultimately I'm sticking with the thread though.

>> No.21327053

>>21327049
>Even when you try to filter this shit, the Quiztard drama keeps leaking out because of Jamal not quoting people properly as well.
fucking based
btw ur probably mixing me up with him let me give u a tip
i dont double space and my posts are worse

>> No.21327054

>tfw bait this narcissistic retard into an entire paragraph of writing
lul

>> No.21327057

>>21327046
needs more jpeg and fake ear wiggle

>> No.21327060

Once you filter me and Jamal all you are left is with retards talking about doing RTK and what core deck to do though, I suppose as a beginner incapable of putting up a (quiz) fight you'd prefer that but that thread already exists, let me give you a tip >>>/int/djt

>> No.21327062

you also have me posting defaced copies of jamal's eroge chart don't forget that

>> No.21327064

can u all stop forgetting im here my posts are worse but i do more for this thread than most of u

>> No.21327066

>without my extra shitposting you'd have shitposting
Wow, crazy insight.

>> No.21327068

What is the point of this thread? Why do we come here?

>> No.21327071

>>21327066
What you fail to understand is that this thread is nothing but pure shitposting yet you just focus on one part of it as if it's any different.

>>21327068
Farming my daily (you) quota

>> No.21327074

You act like your shitposting is anywhere near as entertaining as anything else someone would shitpost in this thread. This shit is just boring. I'd choose arguing RTK over this. Just the same shit over and over again. You talking about how great you are when no one gives a shit. Talking about how much you'll surpass matt when no one gives a shit. I'm no-joke actually falling asleep reading this pointless garbage.

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>> No.21327080

>>21327068
take the rest of the day off after a hard morning of doin ur aniki
dont want to overload urself u might accidentally read or somethin
>>21327071
i help out everyone whos ready to play their first eroge
also most other shitposts are way better than everything u have ever wrote
ur tryin to erase all the good to excuse ur shit

>> No.21327081

I was here before as well and I think I'm bringing a lot more original shitposting than there was before, at least there is some kind of continuity in my shitposting.
The RTK shitposting was the same thing over and over again on constant repeat not sure why you prefer that.

>> No.21327084

>>21327080
I mean I'm not stopping anyone from posting, if you got some good shit to post go right ahead and we may have some actually fun or even productive talks. I'm just entertaining the discussion you are guys are coming at me with.

>> No.21327088

>>21327074
This.

>> No.21327093

>>21327081
>I think I'm
Just go away. Please.

>> No.21327094

>>21327080
the best thing to do is leave him be. them not being the center of attention is like having a withdrawal.

>> No.21327095

I don't quiet get what anybody expected from these threads? Outside of a little comradery from piers what exactly are you looking for? "shit posting" means your life is boring as shit, bragging means you feel inadequate and need to justify your worth to yourself, and insulting noobs just means somebody hurt you in the past. Jamal at least minimalism all of these.

>> No.21327097

>>21327084
i aint the one holdin the stance that ur mere presence is an insurmountable obstacle in the thread im just sayin if u think ur shitposting is better than mine let me tell u bud mada mada ne
>>21327094
i feel u but seems someones gonna do it anyway

>> No.21327100

>>21327095
and what about yourself?

>> No.21327101

>>21327094
If only people had the willpower to just ignore his posts.

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>> No.21327105

>>21327080
you're wrong ive done no anki today and just finished a route in my eroge

>> No.21327106

Jamal unironically objectively better in every way. He's nowhere near as insufferable. I don't see how this is even a comparison.

>> No.21327109

>>21327100
I try to enlighten you girls so you chill the fuck out.

>> No.21327111

epic rap battles of history - jamal vs ajatt matt

>> No.21327113

>>21327105
my fuckin guy thats how u do it

>> No.21327114

Not to say that he isn't retarded. Just isn't as retarded and boring as whoever the fuck the other dude is.

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>>21327093
I'm not going anywhere I think.

>>21327095
I'd like some comradery. My life is kind of boring as well though. I'm not particularly bragging as I'm not great I just have an issue with how full of themselves some people here can be while being shitters, not shittalking beginners in fact I help people whenever they ask for it.

>> No.21327118

>>21327097
If your ultimate goal is them being gone, better someone else than you, right? You're only contributing to it. Maybe if we get enough people on board he might actually leave. I'm still fairly pessimistic about it as they could just create fake responses to themselves, as they may already be doing.

>> No.21327122

Again are you honestly thinking I'm replying to myself?

>> No.21327127

>>21327118
You guys want to make a pact to just stop replying to him? Even if they are fake responses he won't get the attention he likes.
Starting today I'm done.

>> No.21327132

>>21326926
Oh I forgot replying to you.
I don't mind sounding like an anime character it's on purpose, and I'm still working on my Japanese so all good. Just saying I don't want to stop at the level Matt is at.

>> No.21327137

>>21327118
the change u need to make is inside u
he may leave next week he may be here for the next few years
but if u dont stress about it and treat it just like every other boring post in the thread u dont reply to then it wont matter
even suggestin that hes replyin to himself just shows how much hes gettin in ur head
if he was itd be pretty funny but i dont think thats ur angle

>> No.21327139

the guy that's raging this hard is probably the one that said n1 is beyond native level, exact same typing style.

>> No.21327141

>>21327127
Hell yeah, esskeddit. "fuck quizmaster" gang is officially accepting members. Step right up folks, don't be shy! Let's try to get rid of the little weasel.

>> No.21327143

>>21327128
Nothing was stopping me before since I didn't think about it, but since it's for a good cause, let's go.

>> No.21327144

I mean if you guys wanted to effectively combat me you'd actually just ignore me instead of announcing the formation of the anti Quizmaster faction of DJT lmao.

>> No.21327153

So what content are you guys currently consuming?

>> No.21327155

おはようおにいちゃん

きょうのんだ

おくすりはなんですか

>> No.21327157

>>21327153
music

>> No.21327158

>>21327116
I appreciate your insight man and you motivate me to try even harder. I like the fighting spirit, and I hear you on the arrogant as hell shitty noobs. But you can be pretty insufferable at times. I guess you just type without thinking of any consequences lol

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Can you guys give this man a bit of admiration btw?
He produces absolutely lovely illustrations but nobody knows or cares about him and it pulls at my heartstrings.

https://twitter.com/ichibA_Adirbi

>> No.21327161

>>21327153
Axanael but I legitimately can't understand any of this shit even with a dictionary. Are there any directly translated transcripts I can peak at after attempting to translate myself?

>> No.21327164

>>21327160
>7.5k followers
>19 followers you know
nah

>> No.21327165

u kids form ur little pact ill do u a solid and be ur spokesman
once a day ill @ him with somethin painful like
>>21327144
u brought this upon urself and now all u can do is look at their silent sad faces surrounding u
ur yous might even drop by half starting from today
what do u see when u look inside urself
are u proud of what uve become

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>>21327095
I don't know about anyone else, but I'm here in hopes of talking about Japanese, which is becoming more and more difficult to do by the day.

May as well just rename this place the Daily E-Celeb and Namefag Thread at this point, because that's all it is. I wouldn't be surprised if the mods banned these threads from /jp/ soon at this rate seeing as they're little more than an off-topic general with nothing about them beyond the name having anything to do with this board anymore. And if they did, nothing of value would be lost.

>> No.21327171

>>21327153
I was playing xcom 2 in japansese earlier, now I'm watch todays jojo

>> No.21327177

>>21327165
We don't want a spokesman if he's gonna respond to quizfaggot in any capacity. Find another gang bucko.

>> No.21327178

if you want to talk about actual obscure touhou fanwork producers look no further than my posts
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H4pmgRB1TrQ

>> No.21327179

>>21327158
Pretty much still can't believe the fucker full himself yesterday that thought natives couldn't pass N1 hahahah how is that shit real.

>>21327165
I'd honestly appreciate it if the (you)s decrease by a bit because I got shit to get done so it's all good.

>>21327170
So talk about Japanese all I see you posting about is how much you hate what the tread is and has effectively been for years.

>> No.21327182

>>21327170
We're going to fix that starting today.

>> No.21327188

>>21327182
now ur just goin off the rails lol keep ur goals manageable

>> No.21327190

I mean if my presence is what motivates you to stop the shitposting and finally make this thread about Japanese then how can I see that as anything but a great success. Good luck lol.

>> No.21327192

>>21327188
kek, fair enough.

>> No.21327196

Is it just me, or could よつば get it?

>> No.21327198

your presence is only ever going to make things worse and you always knew so

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oh yeah and the fucker wants that
he started shitposting purely cuz he hates this thread
veto that plan
let me undo ur damage
where do u think karbin is right now

>> No.21327205

That's just your opinion I seem to be inspiring a thread revolution here just look at this

>> No.21327207

>>21327196
She can. Good taste.

>> No.21327210

>>21327193
Sounds fun! This actually makes me want to play Zelda in Japanese. I just got on summer break today, so maybe I'll give Ocarina of Time or Majora's Mask a try.

>> No.21327217

>>21327201
I lost track.. so he's back at japanese?

>> No.21327224

>>21327217
On one hand I can't help but laugh, but on the other hand I genuinely feel sympathy for the kid. I hope he can actually find a language and stick with it, if that's actually what he wants to do.

>> No.21327231

>>21327224
>>21327217
Recently started learning japanese. Rundown on what happened? Saw a few memes but never asked because I thought he was just dead.

>> No.21327236

>>21327190
The only thing you're motivating me to do is leave and never come back because you are so insufferable and toxic.

In fact, that's what I'm going to do. There's no longer any reason to come here.

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>>21327217
yeah but thats all we know cuz hes not tweeting anymore
>>21327231
theres somethin real wrong with his mental health and he got trapped in the matt cult
he really wanted to be a success story
he started over his # of days ajatting count after 2 months cuz he wasnt happy with his progress
disappeared and deleted everything like 4 times
picked up like 3 languages then went back to nihongo
switched to mandarin and put 3 languages on his todo list and went back to nihongo
made a bunch of spreadsheets

>> No.21327244

>>21327236
>There's no longer any reason to come here.
There never was one.

>> No.21327258

>>21327236
Based. I wanted to help people learning out by sharing what I know about learning but people just want to talk about and give attention to e-celebs here. I'll try to find a better community. Good luck.

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>>21327259
thats in the full version of the first tweet i posted

>> No.21327268

>>21327258
You dont know shit anyway

>> No.21327269

i bet he knows how to pronounce zenging

>> No.21327277

>>21327268
Ok. Well I'll go actually learn japanese now instead of wasting my life on a 4chan thread that has nothing to do with japanese and pretending as if I know anything while also accusing everyone of not knowing anything. Good luck staying a beginner.

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>>21327236
>>21327258
Can't help but laugh at imagining your faces when you find out you are doing exactly what I want you to lmao good luck:
>>21220642

This is also a good post describing the general state of the thread right now:
>>21106372

>> No.21327286

>>21327277
kbye retard beginner shitter thinking you know shit when actually you SUCK

>> No.21327292

>>21327286
Whatever makes you feel better, bro. I'll see you crabs in a bucker later.

>> No.21327300

>>21327286
kys

>> No.21327303

>>21327292
I thought you were leaving to go "learn japanese"(because you're shit) dumbass stay gone this time

>> No.21327375

君の名は, translated to: You name
which would be 君の名
は is the preposition marker, so the correct translation would be more "Your name is". Literally nothing is ever translated right. I know it's not much, but it's the constant liberties they take when translating everything.

>> No.21327439

>>21327375
You could actually argue that's wrong. は isn't "is" in English, it's not anything; there's no direct translation. "is" in a literal sense would be です, だ, である, but even then it's not that simple. 猫は生きている, in some contexts, would be translated as "the cat IS alive", though there's no to be verb in a literal sense, it's what you say in English But even if you were right, what matters above all else is, to at least the people who decide the English name, that it sounds good in English. This is why many English titles of Japanese movies, and other languages, aren't a 1:1 translation.

>> No.21327460

>>21327439
>that it sounds good in English
what about when it doesnt sound good either

>> No.21327470

>>21327439
>no to be verb in a literal sense
いる is literally there though, literally.

>> No.21327476

>>21327439
Yea 1:1's are rarely possible between the two. I realize desu is the copula 'is', but は clearly means there is more sentence coming too. We're not even touching the nuances of 君. I just think they picked the most boring option. "Your name is" sounds better than "Your name" to me. As a future translator I'll remedy this better.

>> No.21327482

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=paOjNsk7B-c
wow I hate matt now

>> No.21327483

wow i love steve now

>> No.21327622

Matt, your beard is so cool. My beard is shit.

>> No.21327654

glad i wasnt around for this last installment of quiztard lol so many posts i didnt read haha

>>21326965
whats ur issue

>>21327482
japanese brings out all the mad cuz bads lol

>> No.21327659

if anyone tells u they are "learning japanese" just run away they are a toxic human being lol

>> No.21327662

i just love learnin languages

>> No.21327710

>>21327654
>whats ur issue
my current role in life is to get people who wouldn't read your chart otherwise to do so

>> No.21327713

>>21327710
i do it better than u go home

>> No.21327715

I hate my brain. Anytime I see that I learnt something / made progress, I'm just confused as fuck about it. No dopamine or something. Just: "What is this?" and then continuing to do stuff while being confused about understanding shit.
Is this normal?

>> No.21327716

>>21327710
well u did classify bye into the correct category at least

but fuck em dude the chart was made as a sort of irony itself

so many choices yet they all choose nothing instead of the many somethings

>> No.21327721

kyou wa another successful day of learning nihongo deshita

>> No.21327740

iwae iwae

>> No.21327808
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let me show u how to make a fuckin chart
more maintainable than ever
all lined up to add shit to ez
all editions combined into one
based romanji to help the beginners
no fuckin meme bullshit
if u see this and u dont immediately get set on the right path towards makin it nothin can help u

>> No.21327815

>>21327808
Where are the accent characters? How a newfolk supposed to read the romanji without them?

>> No.21327820

>>21327808
いやそこまでしなくてもいいから ヽ(  ̄д ̄)ノ

>> No.21327828

>>21327815
thats actually level 2 romanji my romanji is easier
i shoulda wrote kgn fuckin e instead of kg no fuckin e tho cuz that might be too hard
>>21327820
i posted 3 charts in one thread once cuz theyre a hot product everybody be askin for em
u know the new and improved chart had to happen

>> No.21327836

didnt even notice the kg no fuckin e lmfao

legends of romanization right here

>> No.21327844

btw why not kimi fuckin nozo

>> No.21327851

>>21327844
cuz i didnt think about it very long but that change is happening

>> No.21327901

did some realigning so we dont need no dashed lines
brought back some nostalgia
the next threads gonna be the best one yet startin off with the best chart djt has ever seen
if any suggestions got u on the edge of ur seat nows the time to speak up

>> No.21327960

what the hell, when I make kanji cards with yomichan I can put the entire sentence on the card but not the word? Am I missing something?

>> No.21327975

>>21327901
gonna lol when its another webm this time with james rolfe just taking a diarrhea dump all over my chart

>> No.21327983

>>21327960
yeah
{expression}
{furigana}

>> No.21327996

>>21327975
ur settin the stakes real high here its only gonna lead to disappointment
i almost put a lens flare on it

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>>21327983
kanji, not terms. Expression does nothing (leaves empty field)

>> No.21328007

btw u can put akasaka on the chart and also treating 2u

theres others i thought of now and again that shoulda been on there but i forgot em these are the only 2 i got right now that im appalled i forgot to include the first time

u can put em in w.e category u want

>> No.21328026

>>21327999
>mining kanji
the fuck are you doing

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>>21327999
I don't know what you're trying to achieve but here's my vocab template

>> No.21328550

>>21326620
Butthurt lil スティーブ after all the comments called out his utter surprise at the amazing level of Japanese displayed by マット

>> No.21328558

>>21328550
actually i watched that vid and it was truly a case of steve marveling at https://streamable.com/3h6sr and then marveling at how retarded the internet is

>> No.21328579

>>21326745
i feel kind of hurt. he didn't even mention my defense of him

>> No.21328584

btw i think its cool steve wants to do it all and be master of none cuz at least hell never have to go thru the existential crisis of trying to be master of one and failing spectacularly

>> No.21328586

btw before thread dies wanna get 1 more solid lol in on this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VJ-WBkcS018#t=1158

lmfao

>> No.21328595

btw i remembered steve talking about how he was at a conference lol and i think what has matt ever been to outside of his bedroom haha

>> No.21328606

>>21328595
matts spent more time in foreign toilets than most of us here so maybe u should give him some respect

>> No.21328613

>>21328606
yah heres waht i think about that

https://streamable.com/yhk27

>> No.21328619

btw look at all those books on the shelf over there

i bet u steves read em all lol

>> No.21328622

私はゲイばかりかイケメンさえである。

>> No.21328629

>>21327116
>I just have an issue with how full of themselves some people here can be while being shitters
almost none of your posts are about that. hell i'm awful and shit talk beginners and methods and you never call me out

>> No.21328632

NNBの3期やるって

にゃん

>> No.21328639

matt if you're reading this i love and respect you and i'll never let the anti-matt circlejerk take over this thread. and don't call me a loser i'm only here for a few hours a day.

>> No.21328645

>>21328639
zoomer cultist, don't forget to donate to the patreon

>> No.21328646

No one finds it a little funny that the kid who wrote blogposts like "I want to be Japanese" and who ate べんとう in the school bathroom called everyone here losers lol.

>> No.21328654

matt if you're reading this claiming that you need meditation to become fluent is bullshit
that is all

>> No.21328656

can u believe matt is worse than djt

>> No.21328662

those patreon q/a vids are a goldmine too but luckily our boy got em for us for free

>> No.21328663

>>21328586
its not that funny he was just trying to live translate shit without having read the entire thing

and if you haven't played jap games before i don't think it's unusual to be confused by what they call the circle pad and dpad. crossroads button r u serious??????????

>> No.21328666

>>21328659
>>21326745

>> No.21328667

kowaii

>> No.21328668

https://streamable.com/uy4fp

>> No.21328674

>>21328668
that loops pretty well u can just keep it playin for a couple minutes

>> No.21328675

>>21328659
he didn't say djt he just said "those losers"
>>21326745

>> No.21328681

matts entire livelihood is based on losers yet he talks down to people with disdain in his heart and voice. he is a scumbag.

>> No.21328682

>>21328666
thats not really by name so i wont construe a out of context comment in that way

if matt wants to go all the way and declare war on djt then all i got to say is in the words of his second in command itsudemo iiyo lmao

>> No.21328697

has anybody ever tried reading dies irae as their first vn/reading material in japanese or something similar?

>> No.21328703

how much do u want it

>> No.21328704

seems like a stupid idea and u wouldnt get much out of it

>> No.21328705

just start with yotubato u lil baby

>> No.21328706

you should be the first

>> No.21328711

>>21328705
only if uve watched ur federally mandated 10000 hours of eng subbed anime

>> No.21328719

100 is federally mandated
1000 is recommended

>> No.21328720

>>21328675
Who else could it be referring to if it's a DM in response to QM claiming he'll surpass Matt?

>> No.21328730

Pls stop reccing yotsuba

>> No.21328731
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>I can't even read cursive in English
What characters are these?

>> No.21328733

>>21328730
why
>>21328731
lol

>> No.21328735

>>21328731
horse and deer you cuck

>> No.21328736

>>21328731
バカ

>> No.21328738

because because of the slang

>> No.21328742

>>21328736
no u

>> No.21328745

manga isnt reading

>> No.21328748

but ass is eating

>> No.21328757

>>21328731
ごびをあげると

あざとくなる

>> No.21328800

>>21328731
How are there people that can't read normal cursive??
馬鹿

>> No.21328803

>>21328663
i mean its a guy who should know japanese well enough to recognize what its saying right away its not about the actual buttons or pads on the video game he fundamentally didnt understand he was being given a pair of options simultaneously because hes that fundamentally weak

>> No.21328808

>を can't be in the same sentence twice they said
>it's actually in the same sentence twice pretty commonly
wtf these grammar guides are crazy

>> No.21328814

>>21328808
post a sentence like that

>> No.21328817

>>21328808
post some shit and well tell u why it can be so

lets get some last minute learning at the tail end of this thread so as few eyes as possible see it

>> No.21328821

>its not that funny he was just trying to live translate shit without having read the entire thing
he didn't get it even after reading the whole thing though.

>> No.21328832

>>21328821
And after trying to figure it out by doing it.
>they do the same thing

>> No.21328844

george trombone ftw tho i like the guy

more ppl should be like him instead of low skill low functioning autists like the mattards

>> No.21328853

you guys are constantly shitting on matt's japanese but I've been into pretty much every discord server shilled here and you all write like middle schoolers at best and think chuuni garbage is the epitome of japanese

>> No.21328860

>>21328832
maybe i got an advantage cuz ive played a game or two before but im prob a solid n4 outta 5 and got no idea why it was impossible for him to figure out that sentence
>>21328844
the best thing about jorge is hes got what quizmaster and matt will never have
hes happy with himself and hes got nothin to prove

>> No.21328866

>>21328853
>I've been into pretty much every discord server shilled here
nice self own can u leave now

>> No.21328868

i dont hang out on discords cuz every single 1 is gay also dies irae is gay

>> No.21328875

>>21328873
thats exactly what ive been doing

>> No.21328883

he’s still better than anyone in this thread lol

>> No.21328886

>>21328883
yeah no

>> No.21328887

how would a jap girl react if I say いただきます before I eat hear pussy?

>> No.21328898

>>21328886
yeah yes

>> No.21328915

>>21328894
this is in a hypothetical situation

>> No.21328917

>>21328898
i mean i agree in some ways but thats mostly a matter of having been on this earth longer than most of u

getting steamrolled by a childrens videogame tutorial isnt a good look

>> No.21328920

a guy who's known japanese for more than 30 years and who professionally taught japanese for 20 years but can't read basic shit is better overall than people who have been learning a year, wow

>> No.21328923

Why would you think George is better than anyone here? Have you see the massive deficiencies in his reading ability? The dude is full of shit and specializes in reciting memorized grammar patterns to retards.

>> No.21328944

do you think that quiztard ever listens to his own words and recognizes how much of an idiot AND an asshole he is?
I don't think so.

>> No.21328950

>>21328944
its hard to top for sure

>> No.21328953

>>21328920
>professionally taught japanese for 20 years

who are u talking about ?

>> No.21328963

>>21328953
George?

>> No.21328966

>>21328963
george who ?

of the jungle ?

>> No.21328973

>>21328944
I don't mind being an asshole, if you want to teach a language you should know it first and he doesn't no matter how much he wants to think he does. Deserves to get some shit for that.

I'm not an idiot though.

>> No.21328982

>>21328973
if you think that you're going to change anything by acting like this then you definitely are an idiot.

>> No.21328986

>>21328966
have a downvote

>> No.21328987

u dont think u are right now but come back to ur posts in a couple years and u will see that yes u in fact were

>> No.21328989

>>21328986
sorry dude u cant possibly be talking about george trombone

where did he professionally teach japanese lol

>> No.21328993

>>21328982
You are an idiot for thinking I want to change things. I'm shitting on a retard who deserves to get shit that's all. There isn't a deeper motivation behind it fuck off back to R*ddit.

>> No.21328994

Wait how is he the quizmaster if he got beaten by matt

>> No.21328998

>>21328989
esl? You don't know what professionally means

>> No.21328999

quizmaster and matt are actually twins that were separated at birth spread the word

>> No.21329007

>>21328998
haha no zoomer child its u who doesnt know what professionally means thats why u cant answer my question

>> No.21329012

at this rate I’m gonna be done with yotsuba by next year. how long should I be spending per page? 15 mins? half an hour? more? I can feel the life draining out of me

>> No.21329013

>>21328994
Quizmaster isn't a title to lose, and I'm still the Quizmaster to y'all as nobody from here beat me. And anyway I'll pass Matt before long, remember he has been learning several times as long.

>> No.21329021

>>21329012
about 20 secs per page if ur taking it leisurely and enjoying the artwork in addition to the text

>> No.21329023

stinky neets should learn their place

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>>21329007

>> No.21329027

>>21329013
>Quizmaster isn't a title to lose
lmfao nice self own doitu chan

>> No.21329028

>>21327715
Go more in-depth, anon. Not sure what you mean. Do you just sit there for long periods of time or something?

>> No.21329033

>>21329026
i didnt ask for u to ask google to give u the answer to yet 1 more thing in ur pathetic zoomer life

i asked u to tell me where george has been professionally teaching japanese for 20 years

are u sure ur not the esl ?

>> No.21329034

>>21329028
I mean, I practice stuff and any time I notice that I understood something I didn't before I kinda get confused. I still continue reading but with a vague feeling of confusion as to why I'm getting better.

>> No.21329042

>>21329012
this gets asked every other thread. yes, it’s normal for it to take a long time. AT FIRST. you’ll learn the vocab as you go along. it’s more fun than ankidroning at the very least and the only other alternative is to watch jap subbed anime which will be slightly less painful but you’ll learn slower

>> No.21329044

>>21329033
this is a really bad jamal impersonation

>> No.21329048

>>21328654
He's taking a huge step in the right direction and he might have introduced more people to it than otherwise. Though if he claimed it's the only way to become fluent (Which I doubt he said, but I have no idea.) then that's retarded.

>> No.21329052

>>21329042
>it’s more fun than ankidroning at the very least
lol no the fuck it's not.

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>>21329044
keep squirming u bug as u slowly morph into ur true form

>> No.21329059

are we really too fuckin dumb to understand what expectations are raised to a native speaker of eigo when one says someone has professionally taught japanese
cuz it aint a guy that wrote a book and has a youtube channel

>> No.21329066

>>21329059
oh so you are ESL. yes, earning his income by writing a book and making youtube videos about learning japanese makes him a professional japanese teacher. and he actually hosted classes at one point.

>> No.21329067

he didnt write a book he co authored a book with a native japanese speaker : )

>> No.21329073

quiz let us know how your DMs with matt go this is juicy shit

>> No.21329075

>>21329052
so you enjoy mindlessly scrawling through pages of flashcards for hours on end till one eventually clicks? and then repeating that process every day? you wont get anywhere by doing bigger and bigger core decks. it’s why all the retards on reddit still no nothing 4 years later because they refuse to leave their comfort zone.

>> No.21329078

>>21329034
Ah, that doesn't sound too out-of-field. I could see how it might annoy you though. You probably just don't recognize the dopamine since it isn't something you can detect. Best we can do is assume. But it probably is there. Then again maybe that's completely wrong and I have shit recognition skills.

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21329079

i guess its time to drop the hammer and put this zoomer out of his misery

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V52L-24NcPE

>> No.21329080

>>21329066
i think ur esl if ur relyin on what ur dic tells u and not what ur gut tells u
i know what professional means
he uses nihongo professionally
i would never say he taught nihongo professionally cuz even if it aint really wrong it gives the wrong idea
mostly cuz i wouldnt call what he does teaching but also cuz its not the common way that one teaches a language professionally
now ur turn to writhe in agony

>> No.21329083

>>21329073
We haven't talked much yet but I think he has become interested in where I will go & sent me a friend invite. Suppose now I got to make true on my word.

>> No.21329084

>>21329080
my gut tells me that people use "professional" to refer to how you earn your living. you're an ESL so you're only familiar with one connotation where you envision suits and ties and certifications.

>> No.21329086

>>21329078
it could probably be my fuckton of mental issues including depression
I hate being like this honestly
"Wait, I actually managed to do something? I thought I was a failure. This doesn't meet up with everything I've ever been told."
But yeah it's not gonna stop me from learning Japanese

>> No.21329087

>>21329084
>>21329053

>> No.21329092

>>21329086
It sounds pretty annoying so I'm sorry you have to deal with that. Keep it up, anon.

>> No.21329097

Don't worry you can't learn Japanese purely on dopamine bursts anyway it you don't got the strength of will to just continue when everything is fucking shit you really won't make it.

>> No.21329100

>>21329084
if i said he makes nihongo resources professionally but he aint a professional how much would it hurt u would u even be able to take it would the extremely high level self native vetted eigo im dropped on ur ass just leave u in pieces

>> No.21329103

tell us more about the stupid山の見える景色 quiztard chan

>> No.21329106
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tfw i got owned by trick questions

>> No.21329117

>>21329106
i told u its got em dude those 50/50s a nasty

luckily i won all my coinflips to attain the highest known score of 400

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DAILY REMINDER THAT IF YOU DON'T LIKE QUIZMASTER AND YOU'RE STILL RESPONDING TO HIM, YOU'RE JUST AS BAD AS HE IS.

DON'T BE A RETARD, IGNORE HIM UNTIL HE GETS STARVED OF ATTENTION AND MOVES TO ANOTHER BOARD.

>> No.21329121

daily reminder that to beat quizmaster u just have to shit up the thread worse than him
start like the guy above me

>> No.21329123

what if u dont mind him cuz u think hes hilarious in an endearing way

imagine posting in this thread and feeling actual animosity lmfao

>> No.21329124

>去年
>昨年
what's the difference?
>inb4 hurr durr context

>> No.21329125

Lol why don't you just ignore me like you said you would. What is this Reddit tier trying to stir up the masses lmao.

>> No.21329126

I hate the brazilian tranny and his crowd who shit on the quiz retard just as much desu

>> No.21329128

wait br guy is a tranny ? lol

>> No.21329130

>>21329124
〔「去年」は古くからの漢語。「昨年」は明治以降用いられた語〕

>> No.21329134

how many of u fags are wearing dresses right now

>>21329130
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QCbaMqyG2tA

>> No.21329140

>>21329123
Then the post is not directed to you. I said people who dislike him. No one gives a shit about you faggots.
>>21329127
Oh, it's not a problem for me. Just reminding people that the solution to the problem is as easy as that.
>>21329126
What the fuck are you talking about you freak?

>> No.21329147

>>21329075
hours? no just 10 minutes at most and it's way more fun than painstakingly trudging through a manga that you can't texthook. however once you whip out the texthookers and yomichans then it's bye bye anki and yotsuba

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>If you don't like X and still reply to him while also wanting him to leave, you're the problem
>"But WHAT IF I DO LIKE HIM??????"

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>>21329140

>> No.21329153

>>21329140
>>21329053

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>>21329148

>> No.21329159

>>21329117
one of the hardest questions was one of the ones written in all kana about graves lol none of the answers seem to fit at all altho i think i got that one right

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BTW why don't you man up and quiz me anyway? Anyone who hates me & knows his shit would come and fuck me in the quiz like matt did. Instead you keep shitting into the thread about having blocked me like anyone cares what self inflicted censorship a redditor who lost his way puts on himself.

>> No.21329166

u lost to matt thus proving u were never worth my time

>> No.21329169

I'll catch up in no time just watch, and the Kanken 2 bet is still going.

>> No.21329175

that test is only useful insofar as it's a proxy for overall japanese ability. now that you're specifically grinding your reading knowledge it won't mean anything if you reach parity with matt as you'll still be inferior in all other regards.

>> No.21329187

I'm still working on overall ability and not grinding readings. I also have a theory that to reach a truly high level one needs excellent knowledge of Kanji so I consider my Kanken 2 journey one part of reaching a level beyond matt.

>> No.21329190

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>> No.21329195

>>21329179
lol if you don't already think the reason he learned this much isn't due to being in this thread and being hated.

>> No.21329203

>>21329187
>so I consider my Kanken 2 journey one part of reaching a level beyond matt.
matt said he knows over 6k kanji though

>> No.21329212

>>21329195
yah but most of them eventually fuck off forever and give up and get sucked back into the flow of time stuck in perpetual mediocrity

whereas if i just keep pushin this one maybe somethin will happen : )

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qz-2i2gs4eI#t=53

>> No.21329215

live footage of matt destroying quiztard
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ErnUrhkIIx8

>> No.21329217

>>21329212
You'll learn a useless language.

>> No.21329222

>>21329215
imagining how many times he played it and his general video editing process to create this vid lol

>> No.21329224

>>21329215
こうこつ

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>>21329217
its an interesting way to look at it

is manipulating someone to become djts first success story the ultimate triumph or the ultimate own

well have to wait and see

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Hah! I can continue learning this language that I use to continually waste time on 4chan while those losers who stopped live actual meaningful lives and end up doing things that actually matter!

>> No.21329230

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-U8OlbDkgo

did quiz ever see this video?

>> No.21329238

>>21329229
u should go thru a few drafts of ur posts and run it by ur editor before u post

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oh and also

>>21329229
<--

>> No.21329249

no one in this thread should take their posts more seriously than they already do

>> No.21329251

>>21329242
Trying so hard.

>> No.21329256

日本語が強くなりたいなら本気になれ

>> No.21329262

>>21329251
u must agree ur post was terrible if uve abandoned it for the sake of posting a "lol tryhard much" reply

rack up another 1 in the win column for epic わたし

>> No.21329268

>>21329262
You posted this shit 3 times in a row. You're trying hard.

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>>21329215
>>21329222
Those aren't really hard I could do that.

>>21329203
Nah he doesn't he fucked up on the level 1 quiz same as everyone else.

>>21329230
Just having a laugh at the comment.

>> No.21329276

>>21329262
>rack up another 1 in the win column for epic わたし
He said while posting retarded epic funny xd twitter memes

>> No.21329278

>>21329268
wish i could livestream how hard im trying right now gettin my dick sucked by a gravure idol lmao

>> No.21329282

Listen man the fact that you keep posting about me despite apparently having me blocked is clearly because you can't stop yourself from opening the filtered posts. Let me give you a tip: there is actually a function to hide all traces of filtered posts you should activate that if you have no self control.

>> No.21329300

>>21329282
There is? How?

>> No.21329305

I don't know man I'm not a filter bitch lol, figure it out

>> No.21329308

>>21329282
What are you talking about, you schizo? No one was even talking about you the entire last 20 minutes?

>> No.21329310

>>21329278
you must really love djt if you're shitposting here while getting your dick sucked

>> No.21329311

DJT is only fun when people don't talk about qm or matt or any other "eceleb", so basically 10% of the time only.

>> No.21329314

>>21329311
name 3 topics discussed on djt that you find fun outside ecelebs

>> No.21329318

>>21329314
talk about reading material, learning experience and shitposting.

>> No.21329326

>talk about reading material
that's what jp is for
>learning experience
"ugh this is difficult." boring
>shitposting
now that's fun.

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DAILY REMINDER THAT IF YOU DON'T LIKE QM WE CAN ALL IGNORE HIM COLLECTIVELY.
NO NEED TO BE ANGRY ABOUT PEOPLE CONSTANTLY TALKING ABOUT HIM IF YOU'RE BRINGING HIM UP FOR EVERYONE WHO HAS HIM FILTERED TO SEE.

>> No.21329329

>>21329327
based frogposter

>> No.21329330

>>21329230
the fuck is this microscopic ass line he's writing down the middle of the page, this absolutely confirms his autism

>> No.21329333

what a surprise hes a frog posting guy haha

>> No.21329348

is there a limit to how much one can learn using anki in a single day? does diminishing returns kick in at some point? can you lucid dream anki?

>> No.21329353

u dont learn with anki u remember and recall with anki thus the name anki

imagine not even understanding the purpose of the thing ur doing and expecting to achieve something as a result lmfao

>> No.21329356

>>21329348
>can you lucid dream anki?
why would u do that when u could lucid dream spending time with ur favorite toho kyara

>> No.21329359

>>21329326
>>talk about reading material
>that's what jp is for
Doesn't work if what you're reading is untranslated, though.

>>shitposting
>now that's fun.
agree

>> No.21329361

>>21329348
Nope. Only limiting factor is mental exhaustion and time.

I had nightmares about doing Anki and not being able to sleep before being done when I did 1000 new cards.

>> No.21329367

>>21329348
There is no upper limit, but anki is a long term thing so it's not really helping daily, but if you've kept up with it all day for months and you diversified the hell out of your decks, it's theoretically possible to go all day, physchological breakdowns aside..

>> No.21329371

>>21329353
because i havent even finished vncore yet. i'd rather get into watching jap subbed anime asap but looking up literally every word is super annoying. so is it possible to get half of vncore done in a week?

>> No.21329375

Just imagine this shit, doing reps for 8 hours non-stop no breaks then falling into bed fucking completely mind raped and then dreaming about reps now that's some shit I don't recommend it at all.

>> No.21329380

how many cards should my mining deck have, before I can start using it?

>> No.21329388

>>21329380
1
just set your inteval time to like an hour

>> No.21329393

>>21329380
what the fuck

>> No.21329394

>>21329375
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7RoKsza70EM#t=119

>> No.21329395

>hate shit so much that you literally have nightmares about it
>"hm better keep doing it"
Why are ankitards so obsessed???

>> No.21329402

this might be a good place to ask
w2c a decent keyboard with japanese keys or better yet japanese/hangul
I don't want to put stickers on my model M looking for an alternative keyboard altogether

>> No.21329427

how long until i can insta-read katakana instead of slowly piecing it together in my head

>> No.21329437

>>21329402
you don't need one, japanese use IME to input too
people rarely use dedicated kana key layouts

>> No.21329445

>>21329434
seconding the request.

>> No.21329451

>>21329427
wait till the day where u can see the words as whole things and dont have 2 go 1 character at a time lmfao what a glorious day that is

>> No.21329461

>>21329437
so how would that work? I type what would say and text editor converts it into appropriate signs? basically like keyboard input in google translate?

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>>21329402
>w2c a decent keyboard with japanese keys or better yet japanese/hangul
>I don't want to put stickers on my model M
Why wouldn't you just use IME? It works perfectly to the point even japanese people use it.

>> No.21329468

>>21329461
https://youtube.com/watch?v=J9yviH2_08g?t=126

>> No.21329469

>>21329402
>w2c
what?

>> No.21329474

>>21329469
"want to cop" its just lame /fa/ (/black people) lingo

>> No.21329478

>>21329474
sry i meant "where to cop"

>> No.21329534

Krashen is willing to skype with anyone with a language blog, I wonder if he'd be willing to talk to Matt. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CU6jq5Ulodw

>> No.21329543

>>21329534
he already did

>> No.21329552

what would u even talk to krashen about

oh hey dude congrats on the career based entirely on common sense

monkey see monkey do

monkey hear monkey say

real revolutionary stuff dude keep up the good work lol

>> No.21329567

>>21329461
havent u watched enough anime to see someone type on a keyboard in one
the kana labels on the keys are just an alternative method to typin in romanji that no one uses just like dvorak lol

>> No.21329578

wtf does google translate kanji into "moth" all the time

>> No.21329582

>>21329567
the old school kana keyboards were basically required to get japanese ppl into the computer game

its effectively training wheels

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Second try, passing it is no problem but I occasionally stumble upon words I don't know (haven't seen 消灯 before that came up in the this test) or make mistakes due to rushing it and trying to get through really fast. Suppose I'm ready to move on to the next level though.

I'll probably do some tests every few days to keep up and catch shit that I haven't seen before like that.

>> No.21329598

>>21329462
>>21329468
>>21329469
>>21329567
ok so this clears up a lot
I saw characters in anime type but never payed too much attention to it
so basically for japanese I can use my current keyboard
how about korean? since it can work on a typewriter it probably actually can use the keyboard

>> No.21329600

>>21329590
i don't care

>> No.21329606

>>21329590
second for no care

>> No.21329609

Anybody have experience with alice in kanji land? Seriously considering buying it since dolly has been the only one to explain grammar in such an easily understandable way so far and I wouldn't mind supporting her.

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>>21329590
alternatively

<--

>> No.21329612

Yea god forbid we actually start speaking about the shit we do learning Japanese hahahahaha.

>> No.21329613

>>21329590
wtf are u doing lmao

>> No.21329617

>>21329612
try this incredible life hack

instead of pressing the post button here on this site try pressing it on ur language blog and then send the link to krashen so he will talk to u

>> No.21329618

>>21329609
Have you read the sample?

>> No.21329619

>>21329590
nice blog how do i unsubscribe?

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>>21329612
again, who cares? everyone knows the basics of what to do. you can put spins on it like doing anime vocab cards or playing some dumb game or whatever but at the end of the day it's just the same recycled shit. who cares?

let's get back to discussing this guy

>> No.21329627

>>21329578
moth is が so if it doesnt understand the use of the particle it can do that probably

>> No.21329629

>>21329590
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0XoyDqFy5pU

>> No.21329630

>>21329618
Oh shit I'll do that. ty

>> No.21329631

>>21329609
Check out the sample, I think the one on her site is longer than the one on Amazon. It's not very good and doesn't go very far. If you want to support her you'd be better off joining her patreon and getting access to the posts reserved for kokeshi.

>> No.21329635

>>21329624
My Kanken bet with Jamal is highly relevant to the thread though, I'm just keeping you guys updated on me working through the levels.

>> No.21329636

>>21329635
oh well feel free. but i don't care

>> No.21329638

>>21329635
can u just stfu until u take it or u learn how to make a good post whichever comes first

>> No.21329648

>>21329638
this

>> No.21329651

why is it whenever qm makes a post about literally anything it sends the entire thread into uproar?

>> No.21329653

Now this is epic.

I make a post about my Japanese learning and I get a massive flood of negative responses.

You guys never respond like this when I do mindless shitposting. I'm beginning to think you guys want me to shit in the thread rather than talk about Japanese learning.

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qm better stop wasting his time in this thread all day as he's already getting overtaken as we speak

>> No.21329658

>>21329590
>hasnt read enough to identify that word's pronunciation or meaning
>BUT MY STATS
behold.... flashfriends...

>> No.21329659

>>21329653
actually it was just me i posted like 10 times at u

pretty much any time i read ur post its like mental laxative and i gotta just spray my proverbial liquid shit all over ur posts

>> No.21329669

>>21329658
>>hasnt read enough to identify that word's pronunciation or meaning
Lol you are literally just making shit up.
Do you know what Kanken even is?

>>21329659
Damn I can believe that. You really got nothing to do huh. Here I'll give you what you wanted:
>>21329600
>>21329606
>>21329611
>>21329613
>>21329619
>>21329629

>> No.21329677

>>21329657
same, nothing makes me happier than checking the thread and seeing him in here

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>> No.21329682

>>21329653
i respond to a ton of your posts actually.

>> No.21329693

>>21329657
I'm not worried about people catching up honestly, for some reason until recently I thought most people here are more advanced than me because they talk about DJT being on /a/ and shit like that clearly having been here much longer but it turns out that I overtook literally everyone in the thread in 2 years while shitposting a similar amount I do now.

BTW I'm guessing you are the guy who already learned for 8 years and has 4 times my time in Anki, if you are not sorry, but if you are lol @ talking about catching up.

>> No.21329694

Started my first VN today. I'm finally good enough to play w/o text hookers which is why I waited. I look up a word every other dialogue bubble but that's comfy enough for me. I'm hoping this one turns out to be good.

>> No.21329696

>>21329638
>>21329657
>>21329677
これ
>>21329678
Alternatively, (You)

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>>21329696
>>21329678
Fuck I literally added this image. Jesus christ.

>> No.21329704

>>21329694
cool dude big ups have a nice game

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Well taking the short one I got a full score on my first try. It probably really is just mental fatigue that comes from answering over a 100 questions that makes me mess up a few.

I don't think I'll move on to level 6 before June though honestly. Kind of busy with other university shit.

>> No.21329734

>>21329725
don't care

>> No.21329751

>>21329725
i wish ud move on honestly

>> No.21329756

>>21329737
なないろリンカネーション
I asked for something with sexy onna and good art and somebody rec'd it. I hope it's good too.

>> No.21329798

I was just taking a shit and I had this day dream where I passed kanken level 1 and had a perfect understanding of modern and classical Japanese, being a real scholar of the Japanese language while still shitposting here but at that point you all collectively having no choice but to be sucking my dick. Let's make it reality I say!

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>>21329434
Can't figure it out.

>> No.21329821

>>21329798
if nobody respects you now what makes you think they'll respect you when you improve

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This dude is literally sitting here like, 'think! think think! What can I talk about without being provoked! Oh I know, let me bring up some autistic fantasy about me day dreaming about being the best and u guys will suck my dick, ull all see!'
Too bad I have to point it out so he can realize we all know he's a lonely freak and that he's not fooling anyone.

>> No.21329839

also, when in the history of djt has anyone ever been respected?

>> No.21329850

>>21329821
You aren't wrong but it's not really respect that I want

>> No.21329860

>>21329850
is it awe or fear

>> No.21329862

fear the anime cards

>> No.21329864

>>21329839
me

>> No.21329873

>>21329864
oh yeah I forgot about you sorry

>> No.21329878

>>21329860
I feel good about being able to shit on the retards bad mouthing me and being 100% justified in it

>> No.21329887

>>21329878
but i'll keep bad mouthing you even if you get better

>> No.21329893

>>21329887
And I'll call you out for being a shitter and this'll continue forever with the only change being me becoming a Jap god.

>> No.21329900

>>21329893
yea but i'm not getting the part where improving will change anything about this relationship...

>> No.21329902

Lol fuck this boring ass thread.

>> No.21329908

>>21329900
The change is an increasing feeling of superiority and euphoria on my side.

>> No.21329911

how can anyone feel euphoria about nihongo when they dont even play eroge

>> No.21329912

>>21329908
*tips*

>> No.21329915

i am euphoric right now

>> No.21329922

>>21329917
boring and pointless

>> No.21329924

i just write kanji with my skeet

>> No.21329928

>>21329917
in ancient greek it was tradition to etch letters into wax tablets that doesn't mean it was a good idea

>> No.21329932

Writing on paper is incredibly time inefficient I use a digital tablet.

>> No.21329934

if i told u it was time efficient to kill urself would u do it

>> No.21329944

>>21329922
>pointless
only if you're a retard who won't ever learn japanese.
>boring
only if you're one of the retards who talks about reforming kanji because you can't learn japanese

>> No.21329951

I wouldn't do something that leads to an undesirable outcome no matter how time efficient is lol

>> No.21329956

calligraphy is cool but its also gay

>>21329951
but it is desirable

for us

>> No.21329973

>>21329917
brush shit is cool but if i put time into writing id rather be good with a pen

>> No.21329997

>>21329917
I got a brush pen and started brushing out my kanji yesterday and today when I did my visual kanji in my head it was nice imagining it with a brush instead of a pen. Aesthetics are a big part of the post modern movement because they play a role in so many facets of our lives. You are what you eat, or brain eats.

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I feel like 4chan needs like a min age of like 21 or something. also why even use 4chan if you want to tripfag, go to reddit where people care more.

>> No.21330011

I pass that age requirement.

>> No.21330016

>>21330004
25 is is the minimum

>> No.21330018

and you're still in college? I am audibly laughing at your retardation. I graduated at 21.

>> No.21330026

What is wrong with this dude. He is actually socially inept.

>> No.21330031

>>21329997
snore pretentious nonsense

>> No.21330038

Chris Langan (smartest american)
Bill Gates
Steve Jobs
Mark Zuckerberg

All college drop outs. College is for the cogs.

>> No.21330049

>>21329371
Why force yourself to do anki instead of just reading? You'll acquire vocab at the same pace except one is less mind numbing.

>> No.21330057

the fact that he considers himself important enough to use a permanent trip on 4chan should tell you everything you need to know

>> No.21330059

Chris isn't actually the smartest. By and large people who go to indoctrination centers do better in life mostly due to a selection bias.

>> No.21330063

>>21330059
cope brainlet

>> No.21330066

>>21330049
Not him but Anki is fun for me. Different methods are interesting to different people. I also enjoy reading too.

>> No.21330069

>>21330038
a lot of people with high IQ devote their entire life to academia tho lol

>> No.21330070

I only use it in this thread.

If you are up for it we can Quiz me being the Quizman is part of me using the trip for sure.

>> No.21330082

>>21329973
ink brush calligraphy isn't just large strokes there's extremely detailed stuff written similar to fountain pens etc. kanji are defined by stroke order and method so anybody skilled will be good at both.

>>21329997
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eight_Principles_of_Yong

there's a lot to learn about it. there's youtubers who upload their calligraphy and how they do it. i don't really have an organized thoughts or info outside of what a google search can do, but 8 principles of yong are pretty key. rest you can just search japanese calligraphy on youtube.

>>21330031
crab in bucket

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with an n=2 we know quizchild and m**t both used anki and have terminal autism, so anki causes autism. QED

>> No.21330084

>>21330049
>You'll acquire vocab at the same pace except one is less mind numbing.
this is just not true at all. i read like 100k character sa day and i can tell that im not acquiring the vocab that i see that hasnt come up in anki yet as effectively. i'd have to see something like 5-6 times before i learn it just from reading and that's unlikely to happen

>> No.21330091

>>21330082
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eight_Principles_of_Yong
this is just key to being able to write kanji (or kana) at all like a native, not calligraphy.

if you don't know what はらい はね かぎ means for kanji u cant write kanji properly. this shit is drilled into kids in japan

>> No.21330102

>>21330084
Exactly. You learn a word about as much as you find it in the wild. That's wildly inefficient and I still don't see how people don't understand that.

>> No.21330105

What your guys' ultimate goal with Japanese? Anything besides understanding eroge? Anyone here not really even interested in that stuff?

>> No.21330106

>>21330082
Cool thanks for the link. 永 is a nice kanji. I noticed when writing kanji it's very meditative. You can almost go into a trance and do it unconsciously. Writing is extremely overlooked around here. Everybody wants to rush things but patience, enjoying the moment, and aesthetics are important.

>> No.21330115

>>21330105
a smug sense of superiority over beginners

>> No.21330116

>>21330105
get a jp gf

>> No.21330120

>>21330105
I was mostly interested in the challenge. But secondary goals are being able to access an entirely new part of the internet (Which I hear is underwhelming), being able to read untranslated manga/hentai with japanese sites, etc.

>> No.21330122

>>21330091
ink brush calligraphy has 2000 years of history. it's a whole art so just a fast link to wiki is similar to saying "learn how to draw with a wiki link". i don't really have any advice to give out cause there's much better people than me to give it. i just wanted to link the stroke order page because it's basic but gives you some direction.

literally youtube will show you lots of incredible artist doing ink brush calligraphy and giving out tutorials.

>> No.21330124

>>21330105
At first it was to read lns and watch animes. but i dont really even like that shit anymore. 1.5 years later now i just really like japanese and want to do everything i like in the language and will move to there next year.

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>>21330106
i gave up trying to shill writing in here because ppl have no taste

>> No.21330130

>>21330105
Mostly VNs. The rest is a bonus I guess

>> No.21330134

>>21330120
>But secondary goals are being able to access an entirely new part of the internet (Which I hear is underwhelming)
me too and it makes me sad

>> No.21330135

>>21330120
>Which I hear is underwhelming
Damn right I wish there was a place to chat with Japanese people in a similar way I can chat with English speakers here.

>> No.21330138

>>21330115
hey quiz! didn't recognize you without your trip

>>21330116
がんば!

>>21330120
I feel you anon. I've always thought I'd be cool to access a different world that's blocked off by a language barrier. The fact that the one I want to access has awesome hentai, among other things, is just a bonus.

>> No.21330140

>>21330135
There has to be a place I just haven't found it yet.

>> No.21330146

>>21330140
why would anyone want that, i already hate english social media, the only reason im here is out of habit. "memes", shitty repetitive arguments, and subhumans who just play video games and pop entertainment makes me sick to my stomach.

>> No.21330156

>>21330105
i learned japanese just to see if i could learn it. i learned 3k kanji and read everything i wanted in a year then i dropped it. i only read hentai doujinshi for the last couple years. i decided to learn chinese now and wish there was something similar to dtj. the quality of djt has only increased and gotten easier for new people but studying chinese has been the most frustrating thing i've done in my life.

i just check djt to see the absurd stuff people say with their 200 kanji ability.

>> No.21330157

>>21327808
you fucked up rance good job

>> No.21330160

>>21330105
Reading all my chuunige

>> No.21330161

>>21330156
Are you up for a quiz?

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>>21330156
>the quality of djt has only increased

>> No.21330166

>>21330157
its fixed for next thread

>> No.21330167

>>21330156
chinese is much easier than japanese lol, especially if you already know a lot of kanji

>> No.21330170

i mean djt was legit horrible like five or six years or or w/e

>> No.21330175

I finished learning the Kanas. Will I be able to read japanese once I finish Tae Kim?

>> No.21330181

>>21330175
nope. but you'll be able to start.

>> No.21330191

>>21330175
define read. but yes, start with yotsubato, then move on to easy books then slowly increase difficulty until you pass n1 and get shitty salaryman job like et moi.

>> No.21330192

>>21330161
yes

>> No.21330194

>>21330170
Yeah now it's only taken over by shitposters and namefags

>> No.21330199

>>21330175
Being able to read Japanese isn't binary, it's a gradual skill you build. Some things will be readable in no capacity, some things to some capacity, and some things in full capacity.

>> No.21330201

>>21330161
every time i challenge you to the quiz you pussy out, but maybe this time we can go through with it. link it.

>> No.21330208

>>21330181
>>21330191
>>21330199
ok, ill keep going then. thanks

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>>21330192
>>21330201
https://discord.gg/5K5jQjG

>> No.21330213

>>21330167
no it's not. kanji/hanzi sits on a paper or screen you can read it easily and look it up.

difficult is hearing some single syllable pronounced in a manner you don't understand in varying sounds spoken quickly and having it be a word. i don't have 10k anime hours hearing japanese.

don't even say muh grammar and embarrass yourself.

>>21330163
it has. the quality of the djtguide has really improved. even if the posters are complete retards the centralized information and informative manner it's laid out for beginners that aren't familiar with it at all is well done.

>> No.21330216

Who are some Western foreigners with excellent Japanese? Although there are a lot of people from countries like Korea and Taiwan that have excellent Japanese, sometimes good enough to get Japanese people to think they're actually Japanese, excellent Western speakers of Japanese are more rare, due to how much harder Japanese is to learn for people from a Western linguistic background. It would be interesting to see some videos or something from Western foreigners with good Japanese and then talk about how they stack up to the competition.

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