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Anonymous Mon Feb 23 15:01:49 2009 No.2131553 [Reply] [Original]

Greetings from /v/

I've decided to begin learning Japanese since I want to get into the video game industry, and have gotten a copy of Rosetta Stone. However, I'm not entirely sure how to go about in learning the lessons. There are many different tabs, but each one takes a significant amount of time, so I'm wondering if they are just for review.

Google has failed me. Does anyone have experience with it?

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 23 15:08:28 2009 No.2131577 File: 202 KB, 550x550, 1235419708381.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2131553 My experience says that this should become a Yuyuko thread. Trust me.

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 23 15:10:22 2009 No.2131585 File: 126 KB, 765x800, 1235419822543.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] That, or you can go to classes with a certified, natural, japanese teacher. It will be hundreds of times faster.

>>	Pygmalion !rNk8s6TM.Q Mon Feb 23 15:11:42 2009 No.2131588 File: 97 KB, 800x1018, 1235419902833.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2131577 Alright.

>>	Pygmalion !rNk8s6TM.Q Mon Feb 23 15:12:27 2009 No.2131596 File: 99 KB, 900x600, 1235419947748.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 23 15:14:29 2009 No.2131605 File: 489 KB, 800x800, 1235420069623.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Rosetta Stone is good to learn the Kanji, but you will forget them really fast if you don't practice with others.

>>	Pygmalion !rNk8s6TM.Q Mon Feb 23 15:14:37 2009 No.2131607 File: 357 KB, 1300x553, 1235420077218.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 23 15:15:31 2009 No.2131612 File: 102 KB, 512x512, 1235420131927.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 23 15:22:35 2009 No.2131642 >>2131553 >Rosetta Stone Eh... Try getting lessons instead. Like with most languages you WILL NEED guidance.

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 23 15:25:48 2009 No.2131663 File: 210 KB, 661x592, 1235420748449.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2131577 >>2131553

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Anonymous Mon Feb 23 15:28:47 2009 No.2131683

>>2131553
Why do you ask for help with learning Japanese on this of all boards? Any /jp/edo interested in learning it is either
a) successful in it, therefore hanging out at 2ch or so and not here anymore, or
b) still browsing /jp/ because he fails hard at Japanese and can thus only give you advice on how to fail as well

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 23 15:29:43 2009 No.2131691 File: 197 KB, 600x800, 1235420983433.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2131683 c) They browse both.

Anonymous Mon Feb 23 15:30:13 2009 No.2131694

Drop Rosetta Stone (it's horrible) and follow this guide instead:

First step - Learn the kana (hiragana + katakana):
Should be easy, not more than a normal study day for each at most, so it's just to get right to it. If you're into mnemonics, get Remembering the Kana (/rs/), or if you prefer more direct memorization, use http://www.realkana.com/..

Second step - Kanji:
This process will take a while, so continue on to the next steps while working on this, but it is essential if you want any written vocabulary, so please do work on it diligently. Again, if you like mnemonics, get Remembering the Kanji (/rs/), or if you prefer direct memorization, ReadWrite Kanji (/rs/) is good. If you decide to go for RtK, pay http://kanji.koohii.com/index.php a visit. There are different opinions on what exactly you need to learn with each kanji (how many meanings and readings, etc), so you'll have to decide for yourself. Just keep in mind that they work as building blocks in vocabulary, so as long as you can recognize them, you will make the most important use of them in the next step. Also, I've found that learning the stroke order helps a lot in remembering them.

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Anonymous Mon Feb 23 15:30:48 2009 No.2131700

>>2131694
Third step - Vocabulary:
Also feel free to work on step #4 while doing this one. The exact approach is freer here, but most people usually start with the vocabulary lists from a workbook, like Genki (/rs/). And when you start reading, it's recommended to pick out words you don't understand and feel that you should understand, and make your own vocabulary lists. With vocabulary lists, your options are pretty much to either read through the lists until you feel you remember it, or use flashcard software, like Teach2000 or Anki (google).

Fourth step - Grammar:
I'll keep this one simple, http://www.guidetojapanese.org/ or Genki (/rs/).

You also might want to pay http://www.alljapaneseallthetime.com/ a visit, for some more advanced tips.

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>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 23 15:32:29 2009 No.2131712 >>2131694 OP here, thank you very much for the info. I'll go grab them now. I'm also surprised at the Rosetta stone hate. It seems like a pretty solid program.

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 23 15:33:15 2009 No.2131718 File: 97 KB, 500x500, 1235421195600.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2131712 It isn't.

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 23 15:33:25 2009 No.2131717 >>2131712 Illusions. Rosetta is only slightly useful for Western languages.

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>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 23 15:36:24 2009 No.2131737 File: 244 KB, 1000x1616, 1235421384725.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 23 15:37:49 2009 No.2131745 File: 161 KB, 800x800, 1235421469140.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 23 15:38:05 2009 No.2131748 File: 157 KB, 400x400, 1235421485180.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Swirls, I say. And butterflies. This thread needs more butterflies or Lady Yuyuko might frown at us.

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 23 15:38:17 2009 No.2131746 >>2131733 Oh, thank you. Can I have that?

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>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 23 15:43:06 2009 No.2131777 >>2131700 Just one thing: wouldn't learning grammar come as the second step?

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 23 15:45:46 2009 No.2131794 >>2131553 Because learning Japanese is a sure-fire way to get a job in the video game industry.How about learning something actually useful like programming, graphic design or project management.

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>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 23 15:47:49 2009 No.2131804 Not OP, but why is Rosetta bad? I've learned from it

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 23 15:49:05 2009 No.2131810 File: 69 KB, 1024x576, 1235422145971.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >I've decided to begin learning Japanese since I want to get into the video game industry

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 23 15:50:55 2009 No.2131820 File: 780 KB, 1067x800, 1235422255555.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 23 15:52:58 2009 No.2131831 File: 73 KB, 582x442, 1235422378622.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 23 15:54:20 2009 No.2131840 >>2131810 get out.

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 23 15:59:17 2009 No.2131861 File: 713 KB, 744x1052, 1235422757671.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 23 15:59:52 2009 No.2131867 File: 79 KB, 1024x576, 1235422792060.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2131840 MY SAGE-FU IS STRONGER DUDE

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 23 16:01:32 2009 No.2131876 File: 111 KB, 600x746, 1235422892304.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2131867 I think his problem is that you are using anime reaction pictures. At least use something /jp/ related.

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 23 16:04:46 2009 No.2131895 >>2131876 this too... Another reason to get out.

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>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 23 16:18:17 2009 No.2132014 File: 151 KB, 724x798, 1235423897043.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 23 16:22:07 2009 No.2132050 File: 154 KB, 400x600, 1235424127302.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 23 16:29:55 2009 No.2132111 File: 346 KB, 1000x989, 1235424595656.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 23 16:34:24 2009 No.2132133 I've decided to begin learning Japanese since I want to get into japanese girl vaginas.

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 23 16:56:17 2009 No.2132256 File: 46 KB, 1024x576, 1235426177784.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2131876 HURR STOP PLAYING THE THOUGHTPOLICE DURR

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 23 16:59:33 2009 No.2132279 >>2132256 Even though you are proving me to be right?

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 23 17:05:15 2009 No.2132327 File: 312 KB, 1200x885, 1235426715249.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Post moar Yuyuko.

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 23 17:06:35 2009 No.2132337 File: 54 KB, 640x480, 1235426795427.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Can a ghost be healthy?

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 23 17:07:11 2009 No.2132342 File: 43 KB, 1024x576, 1235426831716.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] AND NOW STFU

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 23 17:09:21 2009 No.2132355 File: 2.00 MB, 700x2600, 1235426961072.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 23 17:13:49 2009 No.2132377 File: 181 KB, 700x400, 1235427229043.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 23 17:18:30 2009 No.2132394 >>2132377 What sort of parallel Gensokyo is this? Mystia eats people, then Yuyuko eats Mystia. What, do humans eat Mystia now?

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 23 17:19:26 2009 No.2132400 File: 17 KB, 300x375, 1235427566667.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2132394

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 23 17:22:54 2009 No.2132418 File: 168 KB, 600x800, 1235427774067.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2132377 Oh hai, I upgraded ur role reversal.

>>	None !Mystia3.V2 Mon Feb 23 17:24:36 2009 No.2132426 >>2132394 No, this is not what you think it is. if you know what I mean.

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 23 17:26:09 2009 No.2132435 >>2132418 Digested Yuyuko is moe.

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 23 17:59:23 2009 No.2132520 File: 130 KB, 450x495, 1235429963334.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Anonymi who surrender à la mode will be eaten quickly.

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 23 18:04:28 2009 No.2132535 >>2132520 YOU CANNOT HAVE MY SANDVICH IS MY SANDVICH GO AWAY

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 23 18:08:39 2009 No.2132544 File: 135 KB, 600x560, 1235430519658.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2132535 YOU CAN BE SANDVICH TOO

Anonymous Mon Feb 23 18:16:24 2009 No.2132554

I got Rosetta Stone for Russian last summer, but it was very ineffective at first.
Then I started to actually start my Russian classes, and so far the combination has been solid.
Rosetta Stone is great for MAINTAINING knowledge in a language.
You're gonna need social interaction if you want to learn one.
Not sure how it works with japanese but I would imagine it would be similar.

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 23 18:38:00 2009 No.2132628 >>2132520 Allow me to douse myself in vanilla.

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 23 18:48:18 2009 No.2132658 >>2132418 wat

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 23 19:05:04 2009 No.2132700 File: 194 KB, 600x800, 1235433904386.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2132658 http://gs-uploader.jpn.org/upld-index.php?uname=Camel

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 23 19:08:34 2009 No.2132718 File: 225 KB, 825x1169, 1235434114738.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2132658 Vore. A most disturbing fetish.

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 23 19:15:55 2009 No.2132748 File: 160 KB, 800x1600, 1235434555500.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 23 19:18:20 2009 No.2132764 >>2132718 However, Camel does it rather tastefully, even when colored.

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 23 19:20:49 2009 No.2132779 File: 146 KB, 600x800, 1235434849111.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] HAPPY END

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 23 19:26:32 2009 No.2132807 File: 94 KB, 600x800, 1235435192449.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 23 19:27:09 2009 No.2132810 File: 164 KB, 600x800, 1235435229695.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] slut

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