DJT - Daily Japanese Thread #2146

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Guide & Resources:
https://itazuraneko.neocities.org/

Previous Thread: >>21129815
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waitu piggu go home

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死にたい

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uchi no imouto no ashi ga nametai dawa
ikenai
mou
gamandekimasenwa

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>>21138674
愛の力を信じる

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When did you start reading eroge in Japanese? A week after beginning your studies? A month? A year?

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>お粗末様でした
Oh come on. The other person just平らげた your plate so it was probably fine. No reason to speak ill of your own dish.

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>>21138682
3 months

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The RTK in the library is full of horrible OCR typos. I found at least a dozen of similar to these. Someone please replace it with a proper scan.

https://itazuraneko.neocities.org/library/cor.html

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>>21138681
愛が欲しい

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この気持わかってる

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昔と同じ明るい笑顔。押さえきれない歓喜に、目が潤んでしまっていている。
What's that っていている at the end? Wouldn't just 潤んでしまっている be just fine?

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>>21138682
I started with LNs because I didn't have access to a good source for VNs. I started reading maybe a month or so into my "studies," and that's only because it took me forever to get through Tae Kim. I didn't even actually finish it, either, I just got what I deemed as "far enough" and dropped it.

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yo the definitions for 掛かる are fucked

way too many to read

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>>21138697
見合い結婚を引き戻します

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>>21138703
"しまっていている" only has two hits on google. Either it's to emphasize "to be" or it's just a spelling mistake.

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>>21138695
lol what the fuck am i reading i cant make any sense of it

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>>21138682
Right after Tae Kim. I was very confused for the first few days and couldn't understand much, but as I persevered and kept reading, things started falling into place. The more time you spend reading per day, the faster you will improve.

It helps to read something with a relatively small range of vocabulary to make the process less painful (e.g. Flyable Heart, Leyline, etc.). You can check Wareya's VN stats page for more suggestions:
http://wiki.wareya.moe/Stats
(You want the VNs with the lowest numbers under the "freqlist 95% Target" column.)

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>>21138719
It you haven't read RTK it doesn't make sense, but the only problem there is that 腕 was OCD'd as 五 for some reason.

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today's word
日猶同祖論

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>>21138697
なら自分の中に育てていくんです。本当のやり方はそれしかないです。

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>>21138715
pick the ones to applies to the context you are reading

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>>21138695
>he didn't do remembering the kana
Yeah that's the pleb version. The nice version is an ebook based on the print edition.

https://mega.nz/#!aBc1WKwS!fM8pprC9VFDoiUj0kJDSn5SY9RKb-m5EgWgrg90xPEk

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>>21138736
Damn, I don't know how to respond to that in japanese yet. I just want to give up though...

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>>21138735
added to my anki deck, thanks.

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>>21138739
share more stuff with us
i like it

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Some of my friends want to learn japanese.
Should I give them a good advice or fucked up their begging with this video https://youtu.be/9PdPOxiWWuU

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>>21138776
Doesn't matter. they won't make it anyway.
You too, probably won't make it.
I saw many friends starting, none getting to N4

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>MIA Resources Sheet
https://gist.github.com/askoufis/e67e637918e5b16d6f4a4da6b0bbe74d

Is there anything worthwhile here that wasn't just plundered from the DJT guide?

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>>21138776
>https://youtu.be/9PdPOxiWWuU
Why has he still not unlisted this and put out a revised version? He admitted the advice in it was bad and misleading months ago now.

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>>21138770
Here is a weird one. It has these drawings for the Kanji.

>Yoshiaki Takebe - Kanji isn't that hard!
https://mega.nz/#!bQdGyYrC!Hn29wPcwnw8_n0_B6tkSb8C2nAfW109DTOEog46qGJw

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>>21138792
I would like to ask you please rectify your words.
I'm definitely gonna make it

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Is the monolingual transition a meme or not? I guess it's a stage everyone eventually drift towards, but I'm wondering if I should force myself into it or not.

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今天的新詞：
【太平公主】
釋義：比喻有非常平展胸的女生。

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Except for reading about 200 kanji in RTK until I got bored, I haven't used any of these.

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>>21138744
think of it this way. your brain is full of neural networks that do different things. some of those networks are responsible for the feeing and experience of loving-kindness. you have to nurture those loving-kindness networks for them to come back alive again. you nurture them by repeatedly redirecting your attention to the intention to be loving and kind towards yourself and others. there are many ways to do this but the underlying mechanism is the same. where attention goes, energy flows.

and that doesn’t mean ignore the sadness within you - quite the contrary. when you encounter sadness and pain, turn towards your physical experience of it, with an intention of understanding and forgiveness. if you don’t nurture loving-kindness first it will feel impossible. but if you do, it will be very liberating.

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>>21138834
personally it makes your understanding of words and japanese in general a lot better. also let’s you build stronger links between words you already know and new ones, which seems to help them stick better.

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>>21138834
I'm 10 years into it for Chinese. It does help if you keep yourself up to snuff. I didn't, but I still preferentially use monolingual dictionaries and just Google translate the definitions when they get too hard.

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>>21138834
It's a meme. J-E dictionary is fast so it doesn't interrupt your reading like a J-J dictionary does, and even if the definition isn't as accurate, that doesn't matter since so long as the J-E definition gives you the gist of what the word means you can fill in the blanks with context.

You're never going to learn what words mean just by reading definitions of them in a dictionary anyway; whether the dictionary is J-E or J-J makes no difference. The only way to learn words is through lots of reading and listening and coming across them in a variety of different contexts.

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wtf do japs really love relish that much??

i didn't even know they had it in japan but apparently they love it so muc hthat "oishii" which means tasty literally means "alongside relish" or "topped with relish"

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>>21138866
hmm not a bad post at all lmaoing actually

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>>21138866
poor bait

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>>21138859
Eh, I think it's fine to use J-J dictionaries alongside J-E. Like make an effort to look up the J-J definition first in as unabridged a dictionary as you can find. You'll learn more word meanings that way and potentially find new usages if your dictionary is good enough to have attestations.

And if you can't read a definition, look up word compounds you don't know in either the J-E or J-J dictionary. Just know the latter leads to a lot of work if you have to do this more than rarely since you'll wind up recursively doing lookups. My ideal is to go one level deeper then give up and use J-E for both the unknown compound and any unknown compounds in the first unknown compound's J-J definition.

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>>21138859
Senpai!!!

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>>21138866
It's because of the popularity of French cuisine actually. As you may know, no French table is without a pot of pickled vegetables. The Japanese just mechanized the process by using relish rather than whole pickles.

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The end of Dive 1 is almost in sight. 5 more chapters and then 2 more endings after that, and I can play the fighting gauntlet mode for 100 hours and move on to Dive 2.

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>>21138888
Protip: If you don't want suffer through dying and restarting the gauntlet several times to get all the good stuff, you can suspend every 5 levels or so. If you resume the suspend save is deleted, but you can just backup them on your hard drive.

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what is dive1

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ballr skydive

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Does anyone have the newer html autoscroller? It also had a word/character counter. The pastebin links in the archives are dead.

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でもチャイナふくはすきなんでしょう？

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X 日本
O 中國
O 台灣

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Can someone tell me what happend to Calvin? I miss him. I heard matt had something to do with it. Whyd he delete his channel?

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>>21139228
karbins been a long journey whered u leave off at
hes got issues is why hes made at least 3 channels
matts bein blamed for introducin the poor boy to ajatt and for a couple tweets that make it look like hes enjoyin the show

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>>21138834
Monolingual dictionaries are a huge waste of time until you're already good enough in the language that you can read the dictionary with ease. Before then, it's a huge time investment for such a small gain, relative to bilingual dictionaries.

I have a friend who, half a year ago, said he was going to use monolingual dictionaries to study. He would look up any word in the definition in the same dictionary ad infinum. Obviously he has made literally zero progress.

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>>21139353
No need to change the story. We know it was you.

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>>21139369
Damn you got me I have no friends

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>>21138834
It's not a meme but if you have to force yourself to use it you're probably not far enough along. It gives you better definitions than some approximate translation usually, but if you're struggling comprehending explanations in Japanese it's not gonna help you at all.

It's again some advice that usually doesn't need to be given to people explicitly. But maybe for someone where Japanese is their first L2, they might always gravitate to the bilingual stuff out of habit.

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>>21139353
>I have a friend who, half a year ago, said he was going to use monolingual dictionaries to study. He would look up any word in the definition in the same dictionary ad infinum. Obviously he has made literally zero progress.
Nice anecdote but I transitioned to J-J a few months after core6k and now I've finished countless sad panda comics, 15+ vns, 100+ anime and a few games.

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>>21138859
steve sucks dick at japanese though

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>>21138715
the german jdict has even more definitions (I have both installed and the ger one has additional ones)

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>>21138834
You can use a monolingual dictionary once you're fluent. Everything else is a pain that you should save yourself from. Look the word up in the dictionary of your choice and read.

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is there a rikai addon for chrome or firefox that uses saneido defs or any other j-defs? can't find one for the life of me and its pissin me off

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>>21139602
The only thing I know is that you can add monolingual dictionaries in yomichan. I'm not a fan of Matt but he's the only one I know that explained it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5oxdPY9eH48

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I'm currently in Tokyo and just ordered at a restaurant in full Japanese. I was able to understand the waiter and responded almost by instinct. It's a small achievement but knowing my studying has paid off feels so good.

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>>21139675
OK calvin

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Hello, about 3 weeks or so ago I began my journey learning hiragana/katakana, and I mastered them in 2 weeks-ish. I started writing down simple/lower level kanji as well as ones i would think are relevant daily. I am an American currently living in another country doing very easy work where i have an absurd amount of free time, and I am trying to impose a really dense workload on myself to learn as much as I can while i'm here and make the most of my time. As of right now, I'd say i'm committing a total of at least 3-4 hours a day combined with everything I do. On top of using Heisig, Kanjitree, and various other games for kanji, I'm armed with my genki workbook/textbooks 1+2 and using duolingo as kind of a tool just to practice hearing/saying simple words and phrases (it's great for drilling but not for learning obviously). All that being said, do you have any tips for how to make really steady progress aside from the actual physical resources? Some people will take this kind of thing at a comfortable pace but I really want to drill and cram in as much as I can in the next 7 months or so because i know there's a lot to be gained from it. One problem i experience for sure is burnout from learning so much as 5 kanji at a time, so any tips for unwinding are welcome as well.

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>>21139675
congrats :D

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I want to immerse myself in Japanese and learn more efficiently that way, but I'm also just starting out. I just memorized all the Hiragana, and I'm working on Katakana now, and haven't even begun to touch Kanji. At what point should I swap my language over to Japanese for my PC?

I say my computer because I spend 80% of my time at my computer. Most of my time is taken up by the screen and using my PC, so naturally changing the language for that would make the most sense.

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>>21139698
Drink more anime

>>21139714
Eat more manga

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Manga isn't eating.

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>>21139698
do fun things.

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>>21139725
What happens if I inject cute anime girls straight into my bloodstream?

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>>21139744
Diabetes

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>>21138799
Look at that comment down. A cultist linked itazura. What a nigger

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>>21139744
Enlightenment

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できんなら＝できないなら　or できるなら　？

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わたしが石川君でも、そうすると思います。

What is this sentence supposed to mean? Is it something like "Since it's 石川君, then I'm sure of it"?

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>>21139807
できぬなら

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>>21139470
Epic anecdote

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>>21138739
Do you happen to have RTK3, or even better, either of them in German? (Die Kanji Lernen und Behalten) ?

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>>21139966
You cheeky...

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>>21138841
Can you share your Heisig copies somewhere?

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Is there any downside to learning japanese in your thirties?

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>>21140079
Yea, you'll be dead before you can actually use it gramps lol

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>>21140079
In your thirties you probably have a job and a family to take care of which eats up all your time and energy. That's the real reasons why mostly young folks can do this.

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>>21139905
>i would do the same thing in ishikawa's position

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>>21140096
>have a job and a family
No.

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>>21140110
At that point your life is pretty much over already so you might as well learn nihongo lmao

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>>21140079
your dick doesnt work as good which means eroge will lose their power over you

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>>21140143
>>21140160
My question was related to the scientific disadvantages someone in their thirties 'could' have when trying to learn a language that requires a lot of memorization. It's no surprise that the productivity of the brain starts to decline around that age, I wanted to know if there's any studies about it in relations to languages, specifically the japanese language.

I don't care about the social or sexual 'problems'.

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>>21140195
going by this post you're clearly autistic so you'll probably be fine

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>>21140106
Thanks, I can see how it translates to that now.

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>>21140195
None whatsoever. In fact there is no difference between someone in their late teens and their fifties.
From a neurological perspective your ability to learn only declines when you seriously enter senility territory, which for most people is some time in their 60s or 70s. For some even later.

The reason why most people don't learn as much that late in life is because they're lazy idiots and tell themselves they're "too old" to learn in the first place.

But if you have to ask these questions, you're probably not motivated anyways and are looking for excuses not to learn.

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>>21140215
Thanks. I'm very motivated.

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>>21138682
probably a few years after watching a lot of anime and getting into import games

>>21138859
smfh

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>>21140195
>I don't care about the social or sexual 'problems'.
Following your dick is a major component of success in learning Japanese, don't take it lightly.

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its not so much the dick but ur balls like literally the dick itself does nothing but ur balls are the main driver

and not just in japanese but in everything

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gjw4y4Xk58s

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btw todays nihongo word of the day is 原動力

check back tomorrow for the next nihongo word of the day

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Actually, today's JWOD is 我慢汁

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>>21139022
Just use Nazeka's reader.

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>>21140285
that words gross grow up

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The Official JWOD is randomly generated. Sometimes words are gross, but that doesn't mean that it isn't imperative to know them. It sounds to me like you're the one that needs to grow up. Now shut up and lick up my 我慢汁.

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ill rip ur dick off and feed it to u

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>>21139470
>15+ vns
how did you avoid quitting after your first one?

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poor geylne guy cant believe hes dead

first calvin then geyline guy

when will lives stop being lost

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We should encourage people to quit if they don't find the content compelling. It means they were learning for superficial reasons, and now they can spend their free time on something productive like browsing 4chan.

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>>21140577
you had me until "like browsing 4chan"

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VN noobs should just read gyakuten saiban or something at first

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Nah, read this instead https://vndb.org/v16915

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>>21140694
First VN I read was Steins;Gate and now I'm considering going for マブラヴ

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>>21140705
>netorare
i aint about that life son

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>>21140715
It's really good anon. You will not regret it.

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https://www.taishukan.co.jp/daikanwa_digital/

Anyone know where to download this? Or are japs really so anti-piracy that they're willing to pay $1200 for a usb drive

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>>21140705
Looks like I know what I'm reading next!
moshiraba was too wholesome, I need something degenerate

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>>21140713
read whatever you like im just saying in general adventure games like GS/dangan ronpa/snatcher/policenauts etc are a good way to get your bearings and if you like one youll probably like the others too so theres a lot of stuff to go through

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>>21140713
Be advised it is overrated trash.

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>>21139807
どっちでもつかえるとおもうよ

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>>21138685
ごちそうさまのあいさつのあいさつにつかうんですけど

たぶんえどのことばじゃないかな

なんかへんなしゃれっぽい

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>>21140822
When I started out hiragana text was completely unreadable and I was actually relying on Kanji to parse something. Yet somehow now this is fine.

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am i crazy or have i encountered like 5 different words for "sudden/suddenly"

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>>21140833
I had the same experience. I would try to read people's hiragana-only posts and couldn't tell where one word ended and the next began, even with Rikai.

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When I from ISML doesn't mean anything

>>21138658
I laugh from distance. Last volume powerup though

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>>21140852
wait till u learn some more english ur minds gonna get blowed the fuck up

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>>21140870
wrong as a native speaker i'm not aware of the inconsistencies and superfluous words because i have no perspective

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Kanji of the day:
之
Kun: の、 これ、 ゆく、 この
On: シ
Meaning: Basically the same as の historically, though nowadays it's mostly used in names.

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Hey ya'll. It's Calvin here. As some of you have seen on my Twitter/YouTube over the past year or so, I have a history of popping up, then disappearing. Changing my language, then going back to Japanese. I wanted to talk a bit about why I have been doing that and what I am going to be doing in the future. I believe it is appropriate to go all the way back to March 2018.

March 2018 was when I founded the AJATT method through mattvsjapan and decided that I was going to be learning Japanese. This was quite exciting for me. I was excited to not only learn Japanese, but to also show the world my progress. Well, throughout the journey I struggled immensely. My discipline was out of whack and I held myself to ridiculous expectations. I got to a point where I would literally set deadlines in my Journey that were due 7 years from now. In general I had this "all of nothing" mentality. I figured that if I wasn't doing Japanese as much as I possibly could, then I just simply wasn't doing enough. Due to toxic thinking like this, I struggled immensely. And another HUGE factor that let to my failures was the pressure of people seeing my struggle. I was so terrified of posting a big goal that I have on YouTube, then come 1 year later, I didn't make any progress. So, when that happened, I said to myself that I can "start over" and make things right. I do that by starting over in another language. That way, I can show people a Calvin that is actually making good progress in his language journey. The problem here is that the language I switched was a language that I didn't care enough to learn. I would convince myself that I wanted to learn it, but I truly didn't. So then over time I would eventually go back to the language that I want to learn, Japanese. This is in a nutshell what has been happening. I wanted to post this to be 100% real with you guys. So, where do I go from here?

Well, now I am going to fit Japanese into my life that is practical. I am also not going to get so caught up in YouTube and social media in general. The fear of failure would CRIPPLE me. The fear of being seen as a failure online would cripple me so incredibly hard. So, long gone are those days. I am just going to do Japanese, immerse everyday, do my reps in solitude. I am also going to be okay with things not going exactly as I planned them. Instead of thinking of an end goal, I am going to be thinking of a "trajectory" with my Japanese. This will be a lot less stress and way more practical. I would like to personally thank YogaPants for taking the time out of your day to talk with me for an hour and a half about all of this. Your words truly helped.

I will no longer being saying "K bye" on here or YouTube. I don't want to just drop of the face of the earth. I am just gonna be chill and not worry about all of that extra stuff right now. I am just going to focus on living my life and just incorporating Japanese into it in a healthy manner. My relationship with social media is not very good, so I won't be super active, but I will check in every now and then.

To those who have read all of this, thank you for taking the time to do so. I am happy to be completely honest with you all and I wish you all the best of luck with your goals.

Peace

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>>21141225
>March 2018 was when I founded the AJATT method
Huh, I could've sworn it was Khatzumoto who did that about 10 years earlier.

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>>21141225
>Well, now I am going to fit Japanese into my life that is practical.
lol so he legitimately switched off chinese and back to japanese after all that talk about how chinese has always been his true love. well at least he's being honest with himself for the first time in a year.

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ohayo gozaimasuuu!!! yurian(my name in katakana)-desu
i started studying japanese some weeks ago and have a question: whats the best way to memorize kana? i swear i can't drill it in my head
anki is useless!!! --___-- it's so boring too, i found duolingo to be way more intuitive and fun to learn
arigatou (thanks) gozaimasu (this makes the thanks harder) for helping me !!! :DDD

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what if he switched off chinese because he was still having trouble with pinyin and now he's just pretending he still wants to learn japanese

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>>21141252
thats not even a believable bait...

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>>21141248
no hes still not being honest with himself

ill tell u 1 thing i know for sure

ppl dont change

rip calvin u will always be rip

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>>21140355
through the power of 剛直

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is ものべの any good

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>>21141352
all i can say is it looks like its for pedophiles

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>>21141361
lolis are not real

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>>21141373
but your 性癖 is

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poor Calvin. This boy is just one ongoing cautionary tale for everyone here.

Never be so focused on some far off goal. If you don't enjoy the process of actually doing what you're doing right now, your chances of making it in Japanese are close to nil.

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>>21141392
I get off to milfs, cakes, JK and lolis so no.

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>https://fuwanovel.net/2013/02/how-to-read-visual-novels-in-japanese-in-2-years-time-or-1-year-if-you-are-fast-%E2%80%95-learn-to-read-through-vn-or-anime/
So you have to learn all kanji before starting to read huh

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>>21141456
Do you really want to learn all 10000+ kanji to start reading?

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>>21141456
>2 years
Geyline guy did it in 8 months.

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>>21141456
>learning 2136 kanji before even reading Tae Kim
What the fuck

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>>21141468
>10000+ kanji
I mean technically you are correct but you can bump that number to 50k
https://youtu.be/zcH3wA2tdAI?t=413

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>>21141481
Well, that guide tells you to learn kanji before start reading so if you will not read until you learn the moonrunes, you don't need a grammar guide.

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>>21139210
Where did you get this photo?

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>>21138674
>>21138681
>>21138697
>>21138717
>>21138744

自杀是好的

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>>21141456
This was pretty run of the mill advice 6 years ago and even much before that. In fact even today some people will still spew the frontloading Kanji part to new learners. I mean whoever manages to go through isolated Kanji study with nothing else for over a year is probably going to success afterwards as well, but that's quite a bit of survivorship bias right there.

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Isn't doing core6k before reading just the same, frontloading kanji?

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>>21138735
>日猶同祖論

犹太人不好

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Btw why is there no talk about podcasts.

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X 日語
O 漢語

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>>21141456
>Step One 1) Learn 46 Hiragana and 50 Katakana. Use mnemonics. This will take 7 to 21 days.
lol

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>>21141555
cuz they fuckin suck

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>>21141548
yea but you frontload words alongside it so you can actually read afterwards.

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>>21141352
I think all VNs are mostly boring and this one is no exception. But it has some noteworthy parts that I enjoyed. Average or above average, out of what I read.

Also it's pretty degenerate. I skipped those parts.

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>>21141548
Kanji are not words.
No one's actually that stupid to go through all of Core6k before they start reading.

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>>21141625
ゲイ

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>>21141625
同性恋很糟糕

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how do i into Jap Netflix?

ill buy regular netflix and then i need some good paid VPN?

[Anonymous No.]

>>21139210
ぼくの意見として、中国の服がかわいいです。中国のドレスを着れば、足と股がセクシーみたいです。

[Anonymous No.]

>>21141665
أنت شاذ جنسيا

[Anonymous No.]

>>21141625
>I think all VNs are mostly boring
what do you read instead?

[Anonymous No.]

>>21141700

[Anonymous No.]

u cant post that here tho dude sheesh tryin to get me fired

[Anonymous No.]

>>21141706
how is this called? VN?

[Anonymous No.]

>>21141700
ラノベ

[Anonymous No.]

>>21141710
debutopia
not kidding btw

[Anonymous No.]

>>21141706
that's a VN so he doesn't read that

[Anonymous No.]

>>21141716
how do I play those games? is vndb a good site for them? I just download and play?

[Anonymous No.]

>>21141726
vndb is just a database site for VN
you have to search google, nyaa or whatever for links

[Anonymous No.]

>>21141520
おまわりさんこのひとです

[Anonymous No.]

>>21139999
>9999
>>21140071
For what it's worth, because #2 is not the same quality.
https://mega.nz/#!HdsCjaZJ!nn3kEHB85ax788ti4vcLbNE41_pmIF-Ps-GwdK-Lt7A

[Anonymous No.]

>>21141726
I usually don't do this but I will make a exception for now. Go to vndb find the VN you like copy the full name of the eroge and go to nyaa.si and then press the fap tab and then paste the name on the search bar. And there you can pirate it for free.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21141728
i found a game i want to play
>レイプ!レイプ!レイプ!

[Anonymous No.]

>>21138658
do any know how to look at cards one hasn't forgotten but still have already learned in anki?
It won't let me increase the review card limit in custom study.

[Anonymous No.]

大家好

[Anonymous No.]

>>21141736
Go ahead and fall into hell.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21141732
cant find
>Rape! Rape! Rape!

[Anonymous No.]

>>21141745
你好吗？

[Anonymous No.]

imagining a debu bitch unleashing her bowels all over my face the day after eating burritos and tacos and doritos with refried bean/avocado dip

[Anonymous No.]

>>21141750
copy the jap name baka

[Anonymous No.]

>>21141756
i did

[Anonymous No.]

>>21141750
Here I found it. Probably is gonna take long to download because there are little to no seeders. But if you get lucky you can get it fast.

https://sukebei.nyaa.si/view/438279

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>>21141754
我很好，你呢？

[Anonymous No.]

>>21141765
i looked for that stuff on nyaa
is sukebei a completely differnt site?

thanks for your time man

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>>21141759
Unfortunately. Rape! Rape! Rape! is one of the few VN'S that is not on nyaa. You have buy it from dlsite.

https://www.dlsite.com/maniax/work/=/product_id/RJ021810.html

[Anonymous No.]

isn't rape wrong?

[Anonymous No.]

>>21141782
depositfiles is the way to go in these cases

[Anonymous No.]

>>21141792
It's wrong but MUHH DICK get's so hard from watching rape. Of course in 2D.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21141792
every man would do it if they knew they could get away with it

[Anonymous No.]

てみる vs ようとする

like why the fuck?

[Anonymous No.]

>>21141792
not in the 2D world so go nuts

[Anonymous No.]

>>21141801
that isnt real rape tho its bubble world bullshit

u wouldnt jack off to the dark sad reality thats going on outside of ur parents house

[Anonymous No.]

>>21141767
我超级棒

[Anonymous No.]

the dark sad reality of some bitch regretting the beta she fucked because she was drunk

[Anonymous No.]

so I got my first VN, now how do I check vocab in it? do they usually let you copy text or do you need some external grabbing program?

[Anonymous No.]

Manaria Friends was kinda boring, what should I watch next?

[Anonymous No.]

>>21141823
Being that beta you have to rape drunk girls lol.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21141831
datealive 3 lol

[Anonymous No.]

>>21141825
ITHVNR

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>>21141832
i'm a 28 year old virgin though

[Anonymous No.]

>>21141839
Lol I'm not that far behind as a 25 year old virgin.

[Anonymous No.]

I want to wake up into a harem world...

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>>21141839
>>21141848
you ppl are sad.

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>>21141860
did i say i was happy

[Anonymous No.]

>>21141839
2 more years and u get ur 魔法翼 lol remain steadfast

>>21141848
good luck in 守るing ur 童貞 dude

[Anonymous No.]

>>21141860
Lol who are you to say who is sad and who isn't?

[Anonymous No.]

>>21141839
>>21141848
turning 27 in two months lol
never thought it would come to this

[Anonymous No.]

consider this having sex w. humans actually tells ur body its ok 2 die cuz it perceives u as completing ur task in reproducing

the longer u abstain the longer u will live cuz ur body will think its really important to keep living so u can nutt in some vagine

why do u think japan has such high life expectancy

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>>21141882
they do have 'sex' though
every time they fap they fool their body into thinking they made babies so therefore it's right to feel good.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21141882
after having sex, comes the "passing the knowledge" phase, so no it would not be the end

[Anonymous No.]

>>21141882
Fapping too much to 2D improved my health.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21141882
Pretty much not true bc i've dealt with suicidal thoughts since i was a wee lad and never had a sex drive to begin with.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21141810
Different

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>>21141888
thats not the same u cant replicate the human touch ur body and more importantly ur brain knows the difference

>>21141888
lol what knowledge

>>21141893
jacking off is very good

>>21141894
but yet ur still here ur quite literally the *snorts* living proof

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>>21141870
someone who didnt need 25~28 years to have sex...
this is really sad and im not even kidding

[Anonymous No.]

i lost my virginity when i was 15 and the girl also shit on me accidentally

i still remember the feeling of her log hitting the floor as i jumped up in shock and feeling the reverberation of the impact with my foot

needless to say i retired from fuckin on that day

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>>21141906
Maybe it's sad for you but I don't really see it that way.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21141915
What kind of girl were you fucking to begin with?

[Anonymous No.]

one who ate a big breakfast apparently

[Anonymous No.]

i cant believe the xiaovin saga is over already

[Anonymous No.]

>>21141929
Were you desperate? Or is she not as bad at it seems like?

[Anonymous No.]

calvins never gonna do shit but meander for the rest of his life and on his death bed the last thing hes gonna remember is how he never found 1 minute in his life to just be present in the moment and have fun and die filled with regret

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>>21141935
we're too caught up in this to really appreciate what calvin has done in the past year. his constant flip flopping is an art. when i saw that he switched back from chinese to japanese i wanted to laugh but it's the same song and dance.

[Anonymous No.]

if calvin didnt care shit about posting his studies online, he would probably be reading jap shit now

[Anonymous No.]

>>21141950
except when he medidates*

[Anonymous No.]

>>21141944
it was some real seishun shit i look back on it fondly

[Anonymous No.]

>>21141971

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>>21141960
u can tell just be watching 1 of his vids that calvins that kind of dude thats just bad at everything

[Anonymous No.]

>>21141984
not gonna lie, i used to be okay.. ive got like 10-12kg and now im a fucking pig. starting a diet (already did) and exercises (soon), though

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>>21141996
and believing he reads here and doesnt have much of a thick skin, this is gonna hit him like a highspeed train.
ppl should just leave him alone
and he shouldnt post about his studies online to begin with

[Anonymous No.]

>>21142006
why not starting now and not soon?

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>>21142011
im not in tune with the youngsters these days that i guess are aggressively blogging themselves across social media so i dont really get it but like what the fuck is he doing i was convinced he was a complete gimmick and actually sick af when he started the xiaovin thing and now im starting to realize that its actually just this image >>21141984

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>>21142006
Just walk 1 hour a day. Cut all sugar from your diet and don't eat bread either. Eat many vegetables and eat food that is mostly natural and have little to no ingredients. And fap a lot to 2D. That's how I lost 80kg.

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>>21142016
had a kidney stone couple of days ago and was advised to wait for a couple of weeks before lifting and shit.
im jogging, tho
hope i dont quit these things. im quite the quiter

[Anonymous No.]

>>21142027
some breads are still ok let that boy have some carbs

[Anonymous No.]

>>21142027
"and fap to 2d" haha yeah
im halfway through. its kinda difficult the "eat many vegetables" part, but ill get there, i hope

[Anonymous No.]

>>21142032
damn, my father recently got kidney stone too
hopefully it will never happen to me

[Anonymous No.]

If you want to lose weight watch your intake. You should exercise anyway, but this is where you'll lose your weight. Use smaller plates, it really helps with portion control.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21142040
heres the easiest way: go 2 the store and just grab some of everything in the produce section

go home and put it all in a slow cooker come back in a few hours and get healthy as shit

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>>21142033
It may be me but I bloat and gain weight easily from all sorts of bread. Instead I only eat crackers and rice crackers. Whole grain of course. Eating oatmeal every morning is the best source of carbs. Rice and pasta is okay only if its whole grain.

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>>21142042
It's amazing how such a tiny shit makes you suffer. Im okay now. So is your father, I hope.

[Anonymous No.]

what's a good story i can read that will give me the vocab i'll be encountering while watching japanese streamers play FPS games like pubg and apex?

[Anonymous No.]

just do the latter thing instead of the former thing as if it will prepare u for the latter cuz it wont lol

do the thing itself always

[Anonymous No.]

>>21142073
streams don't have scripts so i can't confirm what i'm hearing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21142042
Stop eating shit and watch your salt intake and you will be fine.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21142076
maybe u should listen to me when i say u need 10000 hours of eng subbed anime

[Anonymous No.]

Imagine being such a pussy over a stone. I just had a few days of flank pain and pissed it out with no problem.

[Anonymous No.]

no u didnt

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJipcw1lSdg

[Anonymous No.]

>>21142087
yeah anon, you're a man among men

[Anonymous No.]

>>21139714
>At what point should I swap my language over to Japanese for my PC?
I switched my computer to Japanese (and Chinese (traditional) when I was focused on that) as soon as I figured out how to

[Anonymous No.]

>>21142111
Damn right. Fished it out of the toilet myself too.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21142095
Thanks. Its the first time I listen to something good in here

[Anonymous No.]

For those of you who uses Anki:
how many steps (and which steps) you use for lapse cards?

[Anonymous No.]

What is "haujinda"

[Anonymous No.]

>>21142224
housingu

[Anonymous No.]

>>21142224
feels bad dude

[Anonymous No.]

>>21142224
tanuki hacienda

[Anonymous No.]

tanuki niggas

[Anonymous No.]

>>21141225
someone please tell this poor boy to pick up some eroge
>>21141346
dont underestimate what a good eroge could do for a broken man
>>21141425
i been sayin for months u gotta live in the moment let the nihongo wash over ur body
when u start dreamin about the future uve already lost

[Anonymous No.]

There's literally no point in memorizing readings. Let's say you memorize that 人 is nin and jin, additionally you know 大 is dai and tai. Now there is still no way to know if 大人 is daijin,dainin,taijin, or tainin. (hints it's actually none of those because readings are useless)

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>>21142360
The only point in memorizing readings is if you already know spoken Japanese and want to get your ability to recognize the 和製漢語 you already know out of the way so you memorize on'yomi. Which applies to exactly zero people here.

[Anonymous No.]

taimanin

[Anonymous No.]

i jacked off to that shit so much

[Anonymous No.]

>>21142360
or otona...

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>>21142360
I think there is a pretty strong consensus here that RTK2 (the book that teaches reading in isolation) is completely useless, so you're preaching to the choir.

[Anonymous No.]

yeah, katakana is shit

[Anonymous No.]

>>21142150
for lapses, I use 10 30. Its what works best for me

[Anonymous No.]

>>21142400
this

[Anonymous No.]

A little motivation to help you study nihongo.

[Anonymous No.]

based unrealposter

[Anonymous No.]

wheres the bulge

[Anonymous No.]

how can I study nihongo if I rush read just to get to the fappable shit

[Anonymous No.]

>>21142466
That is just fucking stupid man. Remember patience and reward.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21142466
ur not allowed to finish until u can maintain ur bokki through the readin
gambare

[Anonymous No.]

>>21142466
The fapping gets better when you are more immersed in a eroge.

[Anonymous No.]

X ヘンタイ
O 變態
△ 変態

[Anonymous No.]

>>21141738
learn ahead
or do a "cram"

[Anonymous No.]

>>21142475
私はボッキ王

[Anonymous No.]

>>21141831
endro then the trainwreck (domestic na kanojo) then endro again

[Anonymous No.]

>>21142481
then itll be a breeze for u

[Anonymous No.]

>>21141731
mm yeah the quality is a bit meh, also it's the older editions so all the frame numbers are "wrong"; but still, thanks a lot!

[Anonymous No.]

people who say they anki for word readings and nothing else... like having 饒舌 on the front and じょうぜつ on the back and nothing else, what benefits have you seen from that and hows it working out for you

[Anonymous No.]

>>21142479
X 変態
X エッチ
X 痴漢
O 強姦犯

[Anonymous No.]

>>21141831
egao so you can fap to it if you get bored

[Anonymous No.]

>>21141634
>Kanji are not words.

[Anonymous No.]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SrHwPv7gUCE

Finally. Prepare to have your minds blown by Matt-sama's output. Way better than anyone here.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21142567
ok this is actually pretty competent the 霧 has been 晴れ行く'd

[Anonymous No.]

>>21142567
oh wow... yeah... amazing.........
now be quiet again, or at least stop talking about eceleb shit

[Anonymous No.]

writting kanas + 30 min of duo lingo, think I already memorized an learn hiragana.

What are some games I can play that have easy reading?

[Anonymous No.]

lmao he said さぎょう with the wrong accent then immediately corrected himself and had a huge smirk on his face that was hilarious

[Anonymous No.]

>>21142567
really good

[Anonymous No.]

>>21142594
Most of them. In English, of course. If it's Japanese, none.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21142600
why tho

[Anonymous No.]

>>21142594
>writting
>I already memorized an learn
I think you need to learn English first.

[Anonymous No.]

X 英語
X 日語
O 漢語

[Anonymous No.]

>>21142625
well I started learning a year ago when I came to the US. Sorry for being an ESL.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21142595
dont worry hes memorized everything

[Anonymous No.]

>>21142567
Why he says so much その? Natives dont overuse it like that

[Anonymous No.]

why does this dude speaking to a camera say "uhhhh" so much? natives don't overuse it like that

[Anonymous No.]

>>21142658
uhhh is normal. sono is not

[Anonymous No.]

>>21142594

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>>21142567
my favorite part of this video is i think about khatz who was kickin it with some home boys havin a good time chillin and matts in his room at daddys house that has manga pages all over the walls talking to the camera trying really hard to say everything like how he memorized how to say it

[Anonymous No.]

>>21142667
matt already destroyed khatz' garbage pitch accent in his previous video

[Anonymous No.]

>>21142671
haha about that

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SrHwPv7gUCE#t=185

i give him credit he can almost hold it together but somethins not right about this boy i can feel it : )

[Anonymous No.]

>>21142664
who is jamal?

[Anonymous No.]

I dont get it anymore, is rtk a waste of time or not?some swear by it and some say its worthless

[Anonymous No.]

remember guys if u dont think this guy (even with the obvious edit thrown in there) has perfect pitch accent ur just wrong and dont know anything lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SrHwPv7gUCE#t=202

>>21142748
just ask urself this

is it worth memorizing a bunch of kanji with basically no connection to japanese at all ? do u have a plan to still learn japanese after u cram a bunch of kanji ?

go for it

honestly ur better served watching 10000 hours of eng subbed anime first and then reevaluating things

[Anonymous No.]

>>21142748
Most people who hate it haven't done it. Most people who swear by it aren't able to imagine what it's like to just learn kanji readings alongside words.

Some enlightened individuals have tried RTK and shit on it. Especially people who have done RTK but forgot how to write all the kanji after dropping reviews, so it's like they never did RTK in the first place. And these are the people whose opinions you should take seriously because they can see both sides of the argument. If you have an IQ of 130 or higher you KNOW that RTK is unnecessary and will do more harm than good for most people because it's too boring and the longterm "efficiency gains" are nonexistent. RTK cultists will argue that doing RTK increases your longterm efficiency so that they eventually eclipse people who didn't do RTK in vocab. The problem with this argument is that even if you don't do RTK your ability to recognize and remember new kanji increases too! Arguments for RTK can be used to justify having someone learn Chinese before Japanese - the fact that learning one thing makes learning another thing easier doesn't necessarily justify learning that one thing.

[Anonymous No.]

https://youtu.be/mCUd83UQmYE
Has he cracked it, were we wrong all along?

[Anonymous No.]

>>21142748
If you want to be able to handwrite, it's indispensable to do the keyword->kanji practice.

If you want to read only and get a far easier time learning vocab then it's worth it to do lazy kanji version (kanji->keyword recognition), but not worth doing the first one.

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>>21142817
he concealed his eyes out of embarrassment u tell me

also back 2 matt 4 a sec these 2 vids its like mario twins lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SrHwPv7gUCE#t=319

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O1A2zPqVq5w#t=25

[Anonymous No.]

this is hard

[Anonymous No.]

>>21142778
>>21142792
So why does someone like matt say its the proper way?

[Anonymous No.]

>>21142847
He doesn't. He changed his mind on RTK.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EaCYzV2S3LU

He now advocates doing his lazy kanji deck which only has 1k of the most frequent kanji, which is something I can get on board with.

[Anonymous No.]

because of the fatal noob trap that is "if u cant read all the kanji u cant even try to deal with japanese text"

[Anonymous No.]

>>21142825
>want to be able to handwrite
Stop suggesting to people that not handwriting is an option.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21142861
Alright, I guess im out of the loop. Should I follow his methodology? the one on his site.

[Anonymous No.]

你們好

[Anonymous No.]

why can't japan into spaces

[Anonymous No.]

>>21142881
要空格就打空格鍵吧

[Anonymous No.]

>>21142873
u should follow ur own heart and ur dick as well gambare

[Anonymous No.]

>>21142839
yorosheku onogachemuss

[Anonymous No.]

>>21142881
要らない

[Anonymous No.]

>>21142865
Not even natives give a fuck about handwriting anymore since they write everything on PC or smartphones.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21142567
MIA wins again
how will djt ever recover

[Anonymous No.]

>>21142567
he really does have a lisp in japanese

[Anonymous No.]

>>21142912
its not a matter of giving a fuck about handwriting

until they dont do it in primary school anymore its still important ok

[Anonymous No.]

X よろしくお願いします
O 請多指教
△ 請多關照

[Anonymous No.]

>>21142922
Do you also learn the history of Japan with all the random historical people names? They teach that in primary school.

[Anonymous No.]

the problem with matt isnt whether or not he learns japanese its just fun to laugh at him for acting like the big dick in town and then fucking up really bizarre simple shit
the problem is that matt is a self-admitted autistic weirdo who talks about how he can only ever get into a hobby if he feels like he can be the best at it and got mindbroken when he realized that would never actually happen with japanese
do you want to follow his advice

[Anonymous No.]

>>21142922
This is the post

[Anonymous No.]

>>21142931
what

[Anonymous No.]

err excuse me

>>21142931
<--

[Anonymous No.]

>>21142931
>random historical people names
t. “Uhh guys how the fuck do I read 織田信長 and why do I keep seeing 本能寺 everywhere?”

[Anonymous No.]

>>21142931
what

[Anonymous No.]

>>21142946
Sengoku period is about 5% of Japan's history.
Do you learn the pointless boring parts?

[Anonymous No.]

ajatt seems to near-exclusively produce neurotic freaks who are very desperate to justify the effort and time they put into acquiring a basic level of fluency in a short time and convince everyone that IT WAS THE ONLY WAY to do it
you shouldnt be asking "will i learn japanese this way" you should be looking beyond and asking "will i not want to kms this way"

[Anonymous No.]

>>21142952
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a_y3OOQniDU#t=28

[Anonymous No.]

>>21142952
what

[Anonymous No.]

>>21142957
literally no one gets fluent with the normal ways, like people who have been taking Japanese classes for 8 years and still stuck.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21142967
thats fallacious thinking youre falling for though
just because the normal methods suck doesnt mean the exact opposite is the one true path
the only thing that matters is comprehensible input dont let them pull the wool over your eyes

[Anonymous No.]

u shouldnt be trying to learn japanese in the first place
u should be reading and watching shit u want to
if it happens to be in japanese some magic will happen on account of having a brain

[Anonymous No.]

>>21142972
>the only thing that matters is comprehensible input
yea i mean what else do they say? as far as i get from them everything else if just to assist in making that more efficient

[Anonymous No.]

>>21142931
well i do plan on it. i don't see why not. learn history and improve my japanese and better understand nip culture.

[Anonymous No.]

kids these days dont know what its like to just be alone in a room with only themself and the thing

the internet has ruined the world ppl cant even wipe their own ass without consulting a yt video first

its how kids like calvin are able to exist

[Anonymous No.]

can someone redipill me on calvin, where did it all go so wrong?

[Anonymous No.]

>>21142354
>when u start dreamin about the future uve already lost
this

[Anonymous No.]

play this shit now its a great classic that holds up even today

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Txbl2xpDtsM#t=385

[Anonymous No.]

>>21142998
at this point its starting to feel like it all started the day he was born

[Anonymous No.]

>>21141481
MIA minus the meditation.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21143019
can i texthook it

[Anonymous No.]

>>21142998
imagining all the dumb retarded sperms swimming in circles while the one that would eventually become calvin just swims up to the egg and stops and flip flops on if he should do this or not

>>21143033
no but like a bunch of it is voiced get compelled or get fucked

[Anonymous No.]

>>21143039
no thanks it's too painful looking up words without texthooking

[Anonymous No.]

>>21143044
its just a game dude all u gotta do is play it

[Anonymous No.]

>>21143047
no way what's the point if i can't learn

[Anonymous No.]

hello djt. Is there any reason to switch to core10k from core 6k, Im half way through core 6k. Is core10k worth it?

[Anonymous No.]

>>21143050
just remember ur the only 1 deciding u cant learn when u say that

just fuckin jump in dude

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0CIbBugfqeQ#t=60

[Anonymous No.]

>>21142748
Facts:
Anytime spent with the language and the writing is good.
Everybody learns slightly differently and have different goals and things they enjoy.
RTK won't hurt you.

So if you're the type who wants to be able to write kanji and maybe have a better foundation before you start immersing then you might want to do it. If it bores you to death then run from it. I did lazy kanji and then decided I wanted to be able to write and so I'm going back through and doing rtk proper but it's definitely not necessary.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21143061
no mine your own shit instead

[Anonymous No.]

>>21142567
あのー *looks down at script* そのー *looks down at script* まー

[Anonymous No.]

>>21142655
he's spending too many braincells on trying to sound as native-like as possible that he doesn't have enough to spare on thinking about what he's going to say next, even with a script in front of him

[Anonymous No.]

>>21142748
you don't need it
it puts a massive delay on everything else
it makes many people quit because it's boring as hell
even matto desu stopped recommending it

[Anonymous No.]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1RxYmYsa3T4

[Anonymous No.]

>>21143050
>>21142980
lookin at u makes me kanasii

[Anonymous No.]

>>21142748
The point is that a lot of guides have recommended doing RTK up front. This is very dubious. For most people this means exclusively focusing on RTK for a few months and doing little else. This sucks so tremendously, will require the majority of your daily attention and at the end you will feel like you got little to none tangible benefit from doing it.

There is no real downside of doing RTK on the side at a very slow pace honestly and if you feel it's helping you, I don't see an issue in adding a couple of Kanji per day.
This will mean you will do RTK for somewhat between half a year and one full year however and then you have to decide if it eats up too much of your study time. Theoretically you'll be busy with Japanese for longer than a year either way so there should be no issue.

Full disclosure: I did RTK years ago when I first wanted to learn Japanese and it was recommended. I pushed through it in a couple of months going as hard as I could, but after finishing that knowledge seemed very unhelpful. I still couldn't read shit most of all and over time it bothered me so much that I stoppd doing reviews for RTK cards altogether. This was around the time I entered college as well, and during my first year I did less and less Japanese for various reasons and ultimately dropped it altogether. Now after I picked it back up I don't really feel there has been a lasting impact. I would be hard pressed to produce any Kanji from memory and that was what I was practicing back then. At most I might not get so confused with similar Kanji shapes but that benefit is very dubious and not worth the months of effort I put in back then. This time around I went for vocabulary first and after half a year my level of Japanese is already so much higher than it ever was it's ridiculous.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21140694
>gyakuten saiban
iirc details aren't irrelevant in those games? you sure that's noob-friendly?

[Anonymous No.]

>>21143176
the GS games repeat important things so much it's hard to get lost

[Anonymous No.]

You guys are some ascended kind of niggers I like. Even if they don't appreciate you, I do.

Keep up the good work, they will never find your intelligence and substract it like they do to the threats they face. But whatever you guys do never tell anybody of your passion or the extraterestrial beings will watch everything you do forever.

peace.

[Anonymous No.]

i like hentai games

[Anonymous No.]

i like asses, legs, feet, oheso, pantyhose, stockings, lingerie and kisses

[Anonymous No.]

Does nofap really increase your nihongo ability?

[Anonymous No.]

do u like ass enough to eat it ?

[Anonymous No.]

>>21143285
Clean? Yes.
Dirty? Fucking no.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21143285
no it's degenerate and promoted by porn industry

[Anonymous No.]

if u dont like ass enough to eat it and get an upper respiratory infection then smfh

[Anonymous No.]

i like it more for the shape, to worship, to kiss, to touch, to caress, to slap
and not that big fan of anal but i would do it

[Anonymous No.]

only 2d ass can ever truly be clean
just another reason 2d is based

[Anonymous No.]

2d gave me those fetishes and i think they are good in 3d too except feet, i can't find great feet in 3d...

[Anonymous No.]

Oh, I love 3d feet. My life became much better with it

[Anonymous No.]

i find them alluring but not as much as 2d feet

[Anonymous No.]

I'm more of a bottom so if anything i'm the one getting his ass eaten. No homo

[Anonymous No.]

i'm out...

[Anonymous No.]

what the fuck is yalls problem

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o6ZOW_fQHls

[Anonymous No.]

just a friendly chat

[Anonymous No.]

你們辛苦了

[Anonymous No.]

anatatachi no fechi ha kiomi naiwa
demo maa ashitte saikou deshou
toku ni imouto ashi

[Anonymous No.]

like i ask this ninja if he wanna eat ass and u sick fucks start actually considering it and then airing out all ur fetishes like what the fuck dudes

also yea what this dude said >>21143437

[Anonymous No.]

actualy holy shit nvm not what that dude said i only read the 1st line b4 i quoted him lol

[Anonymous No.]

imouto oshiri is better

[Anonymous No.]

so lost with how to proceed learning vocab past the 10k mark... just reading doesn’t feel like it’s getting me anywhere, but anking every new thing i see is so tiresome

[Anonymous No.]

would u eat the oshiri ?

[Anonymous No.]

just read imoutoge

[Anonymous No.]

>>21143447
have u tried learning japanese instead of grinding words like they are ur exp bar in a massively multiplayer online role playing game

[Anonymous No.]

>>21143447
Make anime cards.

>>21143459
Don't listen to these guys. They don't get it.
https://streamable.com/46ur5

[Anonymous No.]

lmao

[Anonymous No.]

>>21143175
I'm doing RTK right now at 25 kanji a day, and it doesn't take more than an hour and a half a day.
I did like 1500 words in the core deck before hand and stopped when i kept getting kanji mixed up.
Now I am enjoying actually knowing what the kanji mean and it has made learning vocab a lot easier.
RTK does seem pointless for a true beginner if you don't have a simple grasp of Japanese already. Building basic vocabulary and grammar and starting to read / immerse seems a lot more rewarding than pushing through RTK alone.
While doing RTK I am also watching Japanese subbed anime and mining vocab from there like at 10 per day.

[Anonymous No.]

make sure u listen to this guys hot takes he def knows what hes tlakin about >>21137740 LOL

[Anonymous No.]

>>21143489
Sorry I made 1 mistake in the language I never use anywhere whatsoever to communicate in bro, no need to eternally rub it under my nose when my reading is just fine which is the only thing I care about.

[Anonymous No.]

Where is the error? I cant even identify

[Anonymous No.]

>>21143489
kaiki is so cool!

[Anonymous No.]

>>21143497
this is the post that makes me pee a little bit when i read it

ur just adorable is all like give it a few more years and if u somehow ever remember ur posting escapades ur going to feel so embarrassed and none of us will prolly ever know but its still gonna own like hell

[Anonymous No.]

>>21143497
only reason anyone cares is cause u got this massive ego about ur flash cards

[Anonymous No.]

>>21143497

[Anonymous No.]

Any good app to learn japanese when outside?

[Anonymous No.]

>>21143515
Yea probably but I never claimed to be advanced or anything, aren't you getting off too much on spotting 1 mistakes in several Japanese shitposts an intermediate Japanese learner made? I just said I'm better than pretty much every1 who frequents this chat which is probably true. At least you didn't disprove me by playing the game.

>>21143526
Okay but they objectively are the best flashcards.

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>>21143533
nope theres not sorry gonna have to go back inside for that

[Anonymous No.]

>>21143534
meh they take too long to make

[Anonymous No.]

>>21143537
You did see the 15 second video right? They don't take long at all.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21143534
getting off on it would be ragging on u when ur not here

when u show up and make posts like this >>21143463 after having literally wagered ur trip and lost it literally the equivalent of being forced to strip and leave ur clothes and go home naked do u really think im not gonna give u shit ?

u bring it on urself dont cry foul when i remember ur cute animego post and bring it back for some ez lols

[Anonymous No.]

>>21143543
yea that's why i'm even posting about it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21143547
Yea but when I wagered my trip somebody invited somebody from outside the thread with like close to 30k cards or whatever. You seem to have a problem with Anki but the only guy who managed to beat me and make me lose my trip had overwhelmingly more cards.

[Anonymous No.]

i love steve's videos, problem is that i've been watching him for 8 years and haven't learned a language

[Anonymous No.]

>>21143533
ankidroid maybe?

[Anonymous No.]

I really hope someone puts this up on youtube after the conference!

[Anonymous No.]

I can't learn the kanas bros I'm a brainlet.

I can't imagine remembering fucking kanjis, this is hard.

[Anonymous No.]

just dont worry about it and look at japanese every day and ull know all the kanas

[Anonymous No.]

>>21143595
time to build your memory palace

[Anonymous No.]

>>21143603
I think I should buy some prevagen

[Anonymous No.]

>>21143595
If it helps, remember there are literate Japanese people less intelligent than you.

What are some things you do remember? Names of characters in your favorite series? Song lyrics?
Friends' birthdays? The layout of your neighborhood? Whatever it is I bet you didn't have to force yourself to remember by grinding flashcards, you just repeatedly encountered them and eventually they stuck. Kana and even kanji are no different.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21143595
drilling individual kana is only good to get started when you dont know any of them
reading actual nihongo will get you the rest of the way and make you stop fuckin up way faster than tryin to use flash cards until 100%

[Anonymous No.]

>>21143618
>>21143623

I can remember most if I try enough, been writing hiragana and katakanas at the same time for weeks, but when I try to read something easy I just get confused and have to pull up my charts again, is pretty weird, I write them in succession easily but can't into reading.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21143636
theres no problem with that
keep doin it and youll stop having to pull up the chart
itll be the same when you got kanji in the mix just keep at it and it fixes itself

[Anonymous No.]

So I am still in the VERY beginning of learning Japanese, but I am learning about the multiple meanings for kanas (specifically は being both Ha and Wa) and Kanji (and specifically in this case 人 being both Jin and Hito). Is this a theme in Japanese? How do you differentiate the the meanings with out stumbling through sentences thinking that didn't sound right.

Also I want to thank this group for putting me on to Lingodeer. I was pretty happy with Duolingo, but I am starting to like Lingodeer more. My plan is to pick up the Genki books with this next paycheck, and may look into Rosetta Stone as well.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21143636
can you recognize ツ and シ, ソ and ン ?
That was the only problem for me with katakana.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21143533
i usually just read a manga but if its more like "5 minutes quickie" then NHK easy

[Anonymous No.]

>>21143671
yeah I focused on those for a while and are one of the kanas along with き, さ and ち that I can recognize the best.

[Anonymous No.]

単語帳人！その存在は許せん！

[Anonymous No.]

わたしはゲくない。多分。

[Anonymous No.]

ゲク？　なんだそりゃ

[Anonymous No.]

so it just gets harder from here on out?

[Anonymous No.]

>>21143724
>sansha mendan
Nice.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21143724
everything in the middle 1/2 or 2/3 of that graph is basically the same just fyi

[Anonymous No.]

>>21143724
No because ideally you'll be reading something you actually want to keep reading and thus even if it's harder you'll still spend more time with japanese which is the end goal.

[Anonymous No.]

if u think about it every game on that graph is made for japanese ppl who know japanese so what chance did u ever really think u had

[Anonymous No.]

is the undertale japanese translation good for beginners?

[Anonymous No.]

is the katawa shojo japanese translation good for beginners?

[Anonymous No.]

>>21143662
>"multiple meanings"
>describes multiple pronunciations
I may just be a simple Chinese poster that just started invading this general a few days ago, but 這個帖子好像是虜餌.

[Anonymous No.]

are the kinoko videos good for beginners?

[Anonymous No.]

>>21143752
No, but you know what might be good for beginners?
Children's stories. Andersen's fairy tales, Aesop's fables, Lewis Carroll's Alice's Adventure's in Wonderland, and stuff like that. That's some of what I read back when I started learning Japanese.

[Anonymous No.]

is the leyline localization good for beginners?

[Anonymous No.]

>>21143775
Isnt Alice completely incomprehensible nonsense even in English? Seems like a dangerous early read.

[Anonymous No.]

are misa ammo videos good?
i find her cute

[Anonymous No.]

>>21143787
she explains a grammar point that can be explained 5 minutes and few example sentences in a 40 minutes videos. the only godtier videos i used were the n3 日本語の森　videos they were excellent

[Anonymous No.]

wtf by the time you can understand japanese grammar explanations in japanese you don't need them

[Anonymous No.]

The only good thing for beginners is anime

[Anonymous No.]

>>21143786
There's nothing dangerous or incomprehensible about it. It's just a silly children's story. You're more likely to find incomprehensible stuff in reviews of modern/post-modern art exhibited in galleries or Continental philosophy writings than in something as inoffensive as the Alice books.

[Anonymous No.]

はーと～

[Anonymous No.]

>reading or playing shit

lmao at ur life. I learned by watchin' 1000 hours of naruto shippuden suck my dick

[Anonymous No.]

>>21143775
>>21143842
but i wanna go for the shitty young adult/adult entertainment first

is there nothing made 4 japanese teenagers and adults thats good 4 foreign beginners ??

[Anonymous No.]

>>21143853
more like shit poo den lol

[Anonymous No.]

>>21143855
low spec

[Anonymous No.]

>>21143855
Are you interested enough in it to go through the effort of looking up a lot of words and frequently consulting the Dictionary of Japanese Grammar series? If so, then it's good content for you. If nothing is this compelling than give up now and find something more pleasant to do with your life. Learn from Calvin's mistakes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21143889
This.
Get a job, get married, form a family and die of old age like god dictates.

[Anonymous No.]

when people say grammar is the easiest thing about japanese i literally cannot wrap my head around that. tell me all the words in a medium/long japanese sentence and i'll spend 5 minutes trying to understand it because the sentence order makes it hard for me to understand what is doing what.

but tell me all the words in a germanic or romance language and i bet i'd have a much better idea of what's going on because the grammar is so similar to english. grammar is literally the hardest part of japanese.

[Anonymous No.]

what is hard about it?
watashi ha gei wo narimasu

[Anonymous No.]

watashi ha saisho kara gei deshita

[Anonymous No.]

>>21143924
本当に？私もゲイになりたい。良い方法がありますか。

[Anonymous No.]

Why is this language so hard at the beginning and impossible at later stages?

[Anonymous No.]

>>21143931
冗談です。私は女大好き。

[Anonymous No.]

X 漢語是GAY
O 日本語はゲイ

[Anonymous No.]

kyaa- edoarudosan kakkoiiyo!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sZE3-cIISS4

[Anonymous No.]

>>21143976
>eduardo
that sounds so weird in japanese

[Anonymous No.]

>>21143855
Literally any light novel

[Anonymous No.]

eduardo es gei

[Anonymous No.]

>>21143984
Aren't LNs full of retarded edgy (""""""creative"""""") language and generally shit writing though?

[Anonymous No.]

>>21144005
90% of everything is crap. But better compelling crap than boring literature.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21143595
It's imposible. I learn 1.5k kanji with both readings and still struggle with kana. Most times I just skip whenever I see a kana word

[Anonymous No.]

>can't adjust window size in baldr sky
gonna uninstall now

[Anonymous No.]

what the heck, i haven't learn all the kanji but reading kana, at least in vns, is really easy...

[Anonymous No.]

>>21144044
startuptool.exe

[Anonymous No.]

I was thinking about Kaufmann, he admits he's never gone monolingual. Only attaches foreign words to english words in synonym like approach. Basically adding an extra step anytime he wants to do anything in a foreign language. Polyglots are basically converters and not really acquiring the language. Are probably barely understanding anything they immerse in. Why even learn a language so externally? Seems so pointless like a mental illness.

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>>21144061
At some point he stops using a dictionary and picks up new words from context, which is the true monolingual transition. He just doesn't waste time fighting through monolingual definitions when that time could be better used for compelling content or staying fit by playing hockey with other septuagenarians.

[Anonymous No.]

using english dictionaries != never acquiring the language. he reads and listens a lot and that's all you need to reach an acceptable level. he's not as good in most of his languages as someone like matt is at japanese but he doesn't pretend to be. i think he said he has 3 languages at C1 level (japanese, french, mandarin), 7 languages at a B2 level and the rest at B1 or something.

for reference: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_European_Framework_of_Reference_for_Languages#Common_reference_levels

[Anonymous No.]

>>21144028
>90% of everything is crap.
Interesting, because in Chinese literature, 90% of everything is gold.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21144074
I guess.. I wish I could have seen him at his peak of japanese, because he's pretty bad these days. Hard to judge him.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21144088
but china doesn't produce any media anyone cares about. no one cares about their ching chong kung fu shit anymore.

[Anonymous No.]

That is how I learned English. After I started watching anime, I got bored of waiting for anime to be translated into spanish so I started watching and reading in English all the time and now I can read everything and probably talk (need someone to practice though). And of course, I'm learning japanese through English.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21144120
You went monolingual eventually though right? I feel like that parts crucial to really crossing over.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21144104
>no one cares about their ching chong kung fu shit anymore.
好大的膽子！

[Anonymous No.]

>>21144005
not that much honestly. reading LNs i see 1 word every 10 pages that’s weird enough to not see anywhere else. most is typical stuff you’d see in RPGs and other fantasy settings. whoever said that obviously doesn’t read fantasy in general.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21144053
idk japanese so i can't see any relevant options besides "fullscreen" or "windowed"

[Anonymous No.]

>>21144129
I don't know what monolingual is or how it works but when reading in english, I could infere the meaning of a word by context without looking a dictionary. Sometimes I make mistakes when I'm writing here but I don't have any problem when I'm reading. Also, I'm so used to English now that I can't read any japanese media in spanish anymore without feeling weird/unconfortable. Same with movies, I only watch them in English.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21144142
>idk japanese
What are you planning to do with Baldr Sky then?
Anyway, just set it to windowed and set the screen size with the resolution dropdown.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21144149
>What are you planning to do with Baldr Sky then?
learn japanese
>just set it to windowed and set the screen size with the resolution dropdown.
gonna uninstall instead

[Anonymous No.]

>>21144152
Good, if can't even bother to translate a single dialog window then kamige like BS is wasted on you.

[Anonymous No.]

Are there any alternatives to https://animelon.com and https://www.daiweeb.org/?

The first site is shit and half of the series don't load, and the second site is down.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21144154
i don't agree but it's over now

[Anonymous No.]

>>21144145
about how long did it take you?

[Anonymous No.]

>>21144162
nvm i finally found the res list after actually reading the katakana.

[Anonymous No.]

はるが

うみを

わたってきました

ことしも

ぴーちくぱーちくはじめたよ

[Anonymous No.]

>>21144136
>whoever said that obviously doesn’t read fantasy in general.
Translated: Whoever said that is muscular, elite, cishet, masculine, and has an impressive income.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21144167
I'm really not sure. I was always good at english in school and didn't need to study that much for tests so maybe I'm prodigy or something (not really). I wish the same would happen with japanese though.

[Anonymous No.]

oh god no

[Anonymous No.]

>>21144202
i told you to do it last night

[Anonymous No.]

in my head Masako Nozawa voices よつば

[Anonymous No.]

>>21144145
¿Eres yo? Deje de usar el español mas que para ver un par de paginas o hablar irl. Se siente raro ver traducciones en español o material de estudio en esp

[Anonymous No.]

>>21144250
entonces no hables en español q me haces sentir raro
But yeah, it's really weird now. Maybe the same will happen with english if I ever get good enough with japanese.

[Anonymous No.]

futaritomo homo nano kai

[Anonymous No.]

ie, anta dake sa

[Anonymous No.]

chigauyo
watashi ha gei nanoyo

[Anonymous No.]

>>21143283
no

a true nihongo master masturbates in japanese to strategically maximize his immersion time. if your 金玉 aren't aching from excessive consumption of eroge at the end of every day, you can't learn japanese.

[Anonymous No.]

I can't remember why I keep coming back here.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21144351
It's probably me. You can't live without me.

[Anonymous No.]

ありがとね 兄貴

[Anonymous No.]

>>21144351
it's a way of procrastinating while pretending you're actually doing something relevant to learning japanese

[Anonymous No.]

for me, it's coming here to procrastinate while pretending i'm actually converting weeaboos to chinaboos

[Anonymous No.]

so i’ve heard several times now that a smart way to use anki is to drill the reading only, for many new words. example:
front 美貌
back びぼう

then by the time you encounter the word again in context, your brain will be so accustomed to seeing it that it will readily absorb the meaning the next time you look it up. is there anyone here who has done that? does it work?

[Anonymous No.]

中国語、見参！

[Anonymous No.]

またつまらぬ言葉を使ってしまった。

[Anonymous No.]

>>21144581
Literally the other way around.
First you should see the word in context. Either example sentences like core, or your own mining.
Then you put the word into anki to remember it. Ideally also save the sentence where you saw it unless it's a trivial word like nouns for physical objects where there is no room for ambiguity.

And obviously you should also put the meaning in English, or if you're that pro a J-J dictionary definition along with the reading on the back side.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21144581
i tried a number of different things for a few months at a time before dropping anki and that one seemed best to me
i still had defs on the back but i didnt try to recall them and i only read them sometimes when i wanted to check
the logic for me was that flash cards work optimally going from one small thing on the front to one small thing on the back so focus on the most important detail
a translation or short definition isnt enough for lots of words anyway and you dont really know the meaning until its intuitive from exposure to it in lots of contexts
if i can read it then its real fuckin easy to look it up even without tools and also if the context makes it obvious what it is then i can read the sentence without stopping for anything and make that extra connection with no effort
theres prob some truth to it being easier to get the meaning down when you dont have to check the reading at the same time but it aint magic
most importantly it really helps you on the number one goal of anki
dont overdose
also dont forget to make ur own destiny etc do it because you want to try it not because someone said its optimal
>>21144691
i assumed hes not talkin about makin cards for words hes never seen before

[Anonymous No.]

how would one even say "based and redpilled" in jap? no google translate responses pls

[Anonymous No.]

ベイスドアンドレッドパイルド

[Anonymous No.]

>>21144736
怒

[Anonymous No.]

wow rude

[Anonymous No.]

赤いカプセル

[Anonymous No.]

How come Steve does nothing but livestream videos now?

[Anonymous No.]

>>21138859
>J-E vs J-J
>implying
https://tadoku.org/en/l-method
Do it long enough and by the time you get to the point where you actually need a dictionary, using J-J won't be a problem

This japanese chick scored 980 on TOEIC by age 12 by just reading a fuckton of books
https://youtu.be/IgQEVIOtZ8o?t=352
Her advice (time 5:53): don't use a dictionary, figure out stuff through context

[Anonymous No.]

>>21144779
i'm not going to take advice from someone who says something as unnatural and 意味不明 as "it's so, like, um, human society" while consciously trying to show off how good they are at english

[Anonymous No.]

Is there a difference between 小さい and 小さな?

[Anonymous No.]

>>21144797
good call bro

though let's be real, anyone ITT who lacks either internal Japanese monologue or full Japanese enculturation would be capable of such outrageous expressions

[Anonymous No.]

https://youtu.be/Y9swx_bnBrg

>open video
>switch 'automatic Jap subs' on
>get scared of how good it is

[Anonymous No.]

>>21144797
then why should anyone listen to you, given the way you write?
she's like 13 years old, you can't really expect mature speech from her. in spite of that fact, she was still good enough to score nearly the maximum on a test that full grown adults struggle with. and she was taking it basically as a joke

[Anonymous No.]

>>21144831
>asian
>taking a standardized test "basically as a joke"
you realize that means an entirely different thing for you and me as it does them, right?

[Anonymous No.]

>>21144797
>>21144779
>people saying subvocalization while reading permanently fucks up your accent just got fucking B T F O by a 12 year old kid

hahaha lmaoing at the faggots afraid of reading and production for that reason

[Anonymous No.]

>>21144829
good point
it's not like there aren't any native english speakers who talk that way
i mean, like, u know, sheeeeeeeeeeit nigga i done forgot what i was gonna say
it's a testament to her skill that she can even form such incoherencies

[Anonymous No.]

>>21144779
how would u adapt that to nihongo when u dont know any kanji just use a dic for readings only ?
my advice is use ur dic if it compels u
i wouldnt make progress if i had to stick to graded readers or read shit i cant follow for thousands of hours
im compelled to read when i slow down to try to figure out whats goin on in the story even if it aint the fastest way to get the language down
bein compelled is what matters if u can find that without ur dic ull do fine if u cant then use ur fuckin dic

[Anonymous No.]

>>21144854
>incoherencies
pretty unnatural word choice desu

[Anonymous No.]

>女 = woman
>安い = cheap
what did they mean by this?

[Anonymous No.]

>>21144903
Japanese has a lot of 男尊女卑 words like 家内 and 姦.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21144903
It means a woman saves you money by managing the household.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21144841
her accent is bad though

[Anonymous No.]

>>21144779
She's obviously an Anglophile. I hope she doesn't marry an English teacher.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21144914
holy shit those are really funny.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21144925
>GUYS CHECK OUT MY HITLER QUOTE I'M NOT A DUMB CROSSBOARDER FROM /v/pol/ BTW
you're the guy that's always saying "xD i just come here to shitpost and have no interest in learning japanese!" aren't you.

[Anonymous No.]

what's even worse than /pol/-crossboarders are people who sperg out over them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21144903
It's even worse. It's not just a woman, it's a woman with a roof over her head. No joke, the 宀radical means "roof".

That said, in Chinese it just means safe/comfy, calm, suitable, stable. Shows which race has better traditional values, to be honest.

X 日本人
O 華人

[Anonymous No.]

>>21144942
いいえ、先輩は殘酷だ。あれは僕の糸だった。

[Anonymous No.]

>>21144942
I'm the Chinaposter, and I swear to god that guy isn't me.

I'm mostly from /sp/ actually.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21144956
Why are you using that outdated 残?

[Anonymous No.]

>>21144945
>ignore the fire and "we" won't burn to death :)!
Yeah dude that worked really well for /v/. Retards like this must be shouted down every time they make a post.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21144963
thats a prefix bro

[Anonymous No.]

>>21144974
could you not use the r-word here? some of us have relatives with disabilities and that word is VERY hurtful.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21144980
すまん、気違い

[Anonymous No.]

>u have to give attention seekers attention its the only way

[Anonymous No.]

>>21144963
typodesu

[Anonymous No.]

ガイジはゲイ

[Anonymous No.]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A5Te8GoVxas

Why should I care about stroke order, when Japanese people themselves don't?

[Anonymous No.]

is 「イジらないで、長瀞さん」actually good or just a meme?
also, it's not that difficult to read, right?

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>>21145028
>Japanese people themselves don't?
They actually do generally. It's just that some stroke operations tend to be simplified in day-to-day writing. Kind of like how not everyone writes a lowercase "e" the same way.

[Anonymous No.]

>つきつめれば
What does this mean?

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>>21145071
いっぱいいっぱいかんがえると

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>>21145071
Maybe you're not familiar with ba-form. The word is 突き詰める in ba form. Like, "if you think this though..."

http://www.guidetojapanese.org/learn/grammar/conditionals/

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>>21145117
>>21145145
あんがと

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>tfw always misread 灯り as ともり

[Anonymous No.]

Is there any equivalent of 女子会 for men?
Apparently the synonym is 男塾 but I'm not sure. I search for 男塾 in google and all I could find is a manga

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>>21145207
アニメ同好会

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Why did they kill daiweeb. I liked their setup a lot more than animelon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21145246
>animelon
Fucking cringe. One accidental glance at the English text and the whole thing is ruined.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21145256
Have you considered not being retarded and just turning it off?

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>>21138803
What's wrong with it?

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>>21145267
Just read manga, you dumb ass.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21144202
pussies, i have 100 reps a day in like 3 decks at once

[Anonymous No.]

>>21144202
Lol, suck my dick.

[Anonymous No.]

i'm FUCKED

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>>21145314
why are you doing this to yourself
(also what deck is that?)

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>>21144779
wait she reads a whole thick ass harry potter book in 3 hours??? that doesn't seem right, am i just really dumb.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21144974
rather them here than u

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>>21145316
this took way longer than it needed to. i fucking HATE anki. can't wait to finish vncore.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21145430
lmao are you 5 years old? how is paying attention for 10 mins hard lmao you are the opposite of an ankidrone.

[Anonymous No.]

おはようおにいちゃん

つるおった

なにをねがう？

[Anonymous No.]

>>21145432
there was a time where i'd spend almost an hour or two a day in anki but now? fuck that shit dude. and 88 cards in 10 minutes is 1 card every 7 seconds. not good enough. luckily when i finish vncore i'll be reducing new cards to 5 a day and continue suspending words i'm overly familiar with and reviews will drop.

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>>21145430
>>21145442
Dude you are a fucking retard with the attention span of a goldfish. You spent hours in Anki and yet you still have to do VN core? And yet you put on this attitude of having a clue what you are even doing.
Christ fuck this thread. I can't take this sub 90 IQ nigger blogposting anymore.

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>>21145450
>Dude you are a fucking retard with the attention span of a goldfish. You spent hours in Anki and yet you still have to do VN core?
blame RTK. and if you didn't do RTK then you can't really say this.
>And yet you put on this attitude of having a clue what you are even doing.
what does this even mean?

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>>21145215
真面目な質問をしました

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>>21145364
that's not what was said

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thank god i'm not a brainlet

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>>21145607
enlighten

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>>21145632
mom and daughter were reading harry potter together and when mom read a third of a page, daughter already finished and wanted to go to the next one
so mom was like fuck this shit you're too fast read by yourself

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speedreaders are literal cancer rofl

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>>21145639
he was talking about earlier in the video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IgQEVIOtZ8o&t=295

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>>21145628
>5 seconds per card
anything above 3 seconds per card is bad.

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>>21145652
Remember, that's the time on both sides of the card. Too much more than three seconds before flipping is bad, but committing it to memory for a second or two before moving on to the next card is fine.

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>>21145652
i have about 50:50 sentence and vocab cards, sentence cards naturally take a little longer

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>>21145639
>>21145607
please learn japanese, she was asked how long it would take her to read a 冊 then pointed out the thick harry potter book and said about 3 hours

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>>21144779
i try to tell u kids this is how u do it and no1s compelled enough to make it happen (granted i was about the same age as her when i started makin it happen so no doubt that matters)

btw bonus clip of her talking about what she thinks about anki and its users

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IgQEVIOtZ8o#t=428

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>>21145726
he's talking about a different section in the video which comes before the timestamp that was originally linked

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lol now this is the wakaitte iina shit right here

bless her heart

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>>21138658
put this in every op from now on plz https://streamable.com/jer6e

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>>21145316
where is your chuugokugo deck? Haven't you heard? We are learning chinese nowadays.

[Anonymous No.]

u dont need that shit just type chinese in english letters

bu yong xie

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>>21145864
What did she said?
You can boost and have fun
What did she mean by this?

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People in this thread are looking up to speed readers. Just end me

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when it takes you 8 months to read an easy vn you start looking up to people who read more than 20 lines an hour

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>>21145553
おとこどうしでのむ

それはどっちのいみですか

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speed reading isnt reading and if you're that slow at reading you did something wrong

[Anonymous No.]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=akLVQdVyGMk
I cant understand anything old people say.

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>>21146166
But for me that's even true in my native language.

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>>21145279
The RTK advice especially. Speaking of which, he still hasn't unlisted his RTK video either.

You have to go on his website to see his updated guide.

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Is there something like yomichan for video player subtitles?
I usually use daiweeb, but it keeps dying every 5 minutes.

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>>21146283
https://github.com/kaervin/subserv-mpv-plugin

[Anonymous No.]

>>21146283
https://voracious.app

[Anonymous No.]

>>21146166
つる

ごわ

おった

ほめて

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>>21146283
>I usually use daiweeb, but it keeps dying every 5 minutes.
Are they getting ddosed? I figured they might have been threatened to take down the site, since the servers seem to be US based, or the hosting cost was too much.

The site isn't reachable since yesterday at least.

[Anonymous No.]

ここにごわのつるがあります

あたしにねがいをきかせてください

[Anonymous No.]

>>21146324
No clue, they might be pulling a masterani/nyaa on us, yeah.

>>21146297
>>21146306
Thanks, both of these are exactly what I was looking for.

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>>21146166
lol gomers ftw

[Anonymous No.]

What are some good games to emulate? I'm playing Phantom Hourglass which has kanji and furigana. I tried Pokemon, it's simpler but there's no kanji which is annoying

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>>21146513
>>21143019

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>>21145755
avg age of anki victims is 59 years old?

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>>21146591
You fell for the bait. They're talking about online dating sites.

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>>21146001
>When you're reading books, uh, you can both uh, have...fun, um...and read a lot of new stories

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I've gone from thinking yukkuri narration is insufferable, high itched, and indecipherable, to being able to understand it and actually liking it.

Its a weird feeling.

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>>21144926
not really moron lol its pretty damn good for a 13 year old native japanese speaker who's never been to an english country
but you don't know japanese so

[Anonymous No.]

>>21146635
its pretty bad though

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>>21146646
you dont know japanese

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>>21146657
i do know english though

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>>21146646
its really not ? she sounds better in english than matt and dogen do in japanese combined

[Anonymous No.]

>>21146613
i know that, i watched it through the first time.
im just wondering how that part fit in with his joke/trolling him back

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>>21146702
hes stupid
notice how dekinais harshly criticize dekirus to feel better about their failure
its a common pattern

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>>21146735
maybe it was a nuke chan reference or maybe it was a reference to multiplayer flashcards

its not up to me to explain it decide for urself

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we need to get to the bottom of this "learning new words without looking them up" thing
seems like total bullshit but it keeps coming up as something that works.... how?
and more importantly, how would it happen in japanese where looking at kanji does not guarantee a correct reading at all

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>>21146778
>we need to get to the bottom of this "learning new words without looking them up" thing
>seems like total bullshit but it keeps coming up as something that works.... how?
This is how I got the majority of my English vocabulary as an L2 so no it's not bullshit. However I agree the reading part makes it harder in Japanese. Still works if you have spoken words, know the most common onyomi readings of the Kanji involved or just furigana though.

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depends on the type of word like concrete nouns tend to be the easiest for me to guess and also stuff where the last kanji in the word effectively categorizes it

so if u see 鋼製 its really easy to put 2 and 2 together and guess what it is and how to read it if uve never seen it before but have seen other words that use these kanji

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>>21146778
Krashen talks about this. "How can we understand language that contains structures that we have not yet acquired? The answer to this apparent paradox is that we use more than our linguistic competence to help us understand. We also use context, our knowledge of the world, our extra-linguistic information to help us understand
language directed at us."

The кошка curled up in her lap and started to purr.

Congratulations, you now know a word of Russian. Correlating written and spoken forms is no problem as long as you're doing enough reading and listening.

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You should be able to do 15 new kanji per day in under 30min/day and in 200 days you'll know 3000. That gives you 2 min per kanji. You should be able to write one out in under 1 min, and then just imagine the kanji after the first few times of writing it keyword to kanji. That's not too much work for a pretty big reward.

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>>21146794
tbf learning at that young age is also a thing, like she was being read books at the age of what 3? that is basically like growing up in a bilingual household, if not better since it is more than just mundane conversation

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>>21146823
i actually dont know a word of russian bc i have no idea how to read that

its not kow-ka is it

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>>21146823
xopowo

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>>21146849
according to wiktionary it's pronounced like koashkah

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>>21146849
Fine, if you want to split hairs you can now associate the written form of a Russian word with a concept you already know. That's half of knowing a word.

As for pronunciation, if you never had the experience of encountering a word in print first, incorrectly guessing the pronunciation, and then later hearing it and correcting your understanding then you must not have read much in English as a child.

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>>21146794
>>21146812
>>21146823
it seems like ultimately the underlying factor is time. because if you see a word 20 times across different contexts over a year without a dictionary, you'll probably learn it. but most of us don't want to wait 20 exposures for every word.
i read this study that tested the ability to recall new words from reading (white) vs reading + dictionary (grey) vs reading + dictionary + "learning activity", perhaps comparable to anki (black).
its clear that active effort into learning a particular word results in vastly higher retention. the white bar might be as tall as the black bar given 6-10x the amount of exposure and time.

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>>21146907
im not tryin to split hairs but i can on this post

mispronouncing new words in english is fine because ur using what u know about english to make the pronunciation in the first place

as i dont know shit about russian throwing those weird symbols at me is in a totally different ballpark altogether and im still using english here and not russian

big difference

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>>21146921
i mean yea irl time in and outside of study/exposure time is pretty huge

however did u see that little girl with her yomiko readman junior room books piled up the wall

thats the real difference and if that aint u then u stay at a much lower level for much longer

also ur brain is less spongy so u are even more doomed if u didnt get going when u were a kid

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>>21146778
It's not bullshit but it undoubtedly makes the process of acquiring vocabulary much slower, and leaves room for mistaken interpretations of words to take root. There have been a few cases in English (my native language) where I've gone for years thinking a word meant something that it didn't, and the only way I figured out the actual meaning was after second-guessing my interpretation due to it not seeming to make sense in a particular context and checking the dictionary to make sure I understood the word correctly (only to find that I didn't).

It's irrelevant in our case anyway since, as you pointed out, Kanji makes this approach impossible for Japanese.

>>21146823
That's all well and good in a super simple sentence with only one missing part of the puzzle. As anyone who has actually read any Japanese will know though, rarely do you come across such convenient sentences (especially if you have a small vocabulary). If you try this no dictionary approach, most sentences aren't going to have enough comprehensible parts in them for you to guess at the meanings of all the unknown words. Remember that it takes kids ~5 years of hearing their native language all around the clock before they really start to get competent at using it.

The girl in that video is bullshitting when she says she never used a dictionary, just like she's bullshitting when she says she can read a full-length novel in 3 hours. Maybe today she doesn't use dictionaries, but she did at some point. There's no way you could enjoy reading books where you didn't know 95% of the words and couldn't understand any of the sentences. Who would put themselves through that?

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>>21146921
>but most of us don't want to wait 20 exposures for every word.
Yea, but most people seem to think they can get fluent within 2 years and then quit when they realize it's not happening. It's important to also keep your expectations in check. Building a good foundation to expand on is way more important than trying to cram every possible vocabulary you encounter through your daily 4 hour Anki sessions.

Ideally you're in on this for the long term, as in for the rest of your life. I get that it's tempting to fast track yourself to fluency, but even the concept of fluency is so vague, that it would make much more sense to aim for getting to a point where you can continue learning by exposure alone without having to force everything through your study pipeline.