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Old: >>21046948

>New? Start here:
https://pastebin.com/RbQDNtmt

>Mods:
http://pastebin.com/HcTtYVsn

>E+ Changelogs:
http://elona.wikia.com/wiki/Changelog_%28Elona%2B%29

>Elona Custom Release Thread:
https://elona.wikia.com/wiki/Thread:29851

>Elona+ Custom-G Release Thread:
http://elona.wikia.com/wiki/Thread:29336

>Omake Overhaul English Release Thread:
https://elona.wikia.com/wiki/Thread:28909

>Current Version:
Elona+ 1.87 (2019-02-17)
Elona Omake Overhaul EN (2018-12-14)
>Latest Custom:
E+C 1.87.1 (2019-02-12)
Elona+ Custom-G 1.87.1.2 (2019-02-17)
Omake Overhaul EN Hack final release (2018-12-14)


Errors? Set the compatibility of the .exe to WINDOWS 7.
Using GIMP to create a sprite or PCC? Select "do not write color space" and save it as a 24-bit BMP.

>> No.21114505

Woah this game is still going? Did they ever remake it in Java?

>> No.21114529

>>21114505
Read the wiki guess not!

>> No.21114786

>>21114505
There were plans to remake it in Java? the fuck

>> No.21114802
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21114802

What does "(Various things)" mean?

>> No.21114900

>>21110935
>Adding in other attributes, even if you restrict it to just 99s would probably start to create a mess of colors.
Oh, no, I didn't mean layered or anything like that. Just a constant border if any item matches whatever criteria. Kind of like the shine for bright things like gems.
Heck, it could even be a bright shining light too, just a little more visible; a colored border is just an idea. Just some kind of loot beam that matches desirable traits.
But more wondering if something like it already exists.

On that note, isn't there an autopickup feature somewhere?
I remember reading something about that. Like lines in a txt file, giving parts of names to parse, or whole location names (Starting the line with a character or something), to make it automatically pick up anything that matches when walking over it.
Might have been specific to some fork or mod.

>> No.21114972

>>21114900
The autopicker-upper is in the OO branch.

>> No.21115003
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>>21114802
Heh.

>> No.21115022
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Remember

>> No.21115965

link for base Elona+ not working in pastebin

>> No.21116020

>>21115965
https://bloodyshade.no-ip.org:42333/ElonaCustom/Elona+/

>> No.21116029

>>21116020
thx

>> No.21116722

For custom ai, I read that "target distance < 6, then move forward" is better than "target distance > 1." Why is that?

>> No.21116892

Any idea how I can load this can with smut and porn? I've already downloaded the monster girl pack.

>> No.21117194

Am I supposed to download Elona+, then Elona+ Custom, then the mods after that?

>> No.21117230

>>21117194
pretty much

>> No.21117354

>>21117230
Thank you.

>> No.21117366

>>21116722
For attacks I think "distance > 1" can cause errors, but for movement it should be fine.

>> No.21117901 [DELETED] 
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21117901

Whenever I try to make a character, this pops up and the game crashes after the intro ends.
I'm using ElonaC.exe to open the game. I don't get the error/crash with elonaplus.exe but I don't think that has the mods on it considering the text in character creation was different.

>> No.21118975

>>21117366
Does anyone know why that causes errors on attacks?

>> No.21119932

>>21117901
Not sure if you fixed the issue since the post was deleted, but still. Just in case.

Crashing just after character creation could be folder permissions related.
Removing read only options on the folder, making sure the current user has write permissions for the folder, and in extreme cases "taking ownership" of the folder/files, should fix that.
Or running as administrator should treat it (Not recommended).
If the folders/files have an unblock option in Properties, then hit that.

Win10 specific crashes can largely be fixed by running in Win7 compatibility mode.

You definitely want to run ElonaC.exe to run Custom. Otherwise you're just running regular plus.
If regular plus does not crash, then it could be an issue when extracting custom. Trying again in a clean folder (Extract Plus, extract and override with Custom).

Also consider Custom-G. If you want Custom as is that's fine, but consider the option anyway.

>> No.21120374
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21120374

I want to change the sprite of a Master Thief shopkeeper into this gal.
Does anyone have any 32x32 sprites offhand? Otherwise I'll try to morph either the game's larger sprite or some RPGmaker sprite into shape.

>> No.21120473

>>21114505
Not since 2012, but Elona Foobar is a C++ conversion.

>> No.21120530
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>>21120374
There we go. I think that's pretty good.
Not really a strong border so she doesn't blend in too well. But whatever, I'll fix that once it annoys me enough. Same with making her follow the correct deity.

>> No.21120669
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>>21120374
Looks like i'm late, but here you go anyway.

>> No.21120698

>>21120669
Thanks. That looks better in some ways, but matches the style of the game less. Would definitely be preferable when using Beautify or something.

>> No.21120730

>>21118975
The range limit for pets is 5, so presumably it's related to trying to attack something that's too far away.

>> No.21120794
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>> No.21120860
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>Mani of Machine
>not Yacatect
one job

>> No.21120865

>>21120530
>>21120860
meant for this

>> No.21120910

>>21120860
Yeah, like I said, same with making her follow the correct deity.
I think that requires blessed scrolls of faith while following the deity yourself?
It will be done. Definitely after some more comfortable grinding. Probably after some more Gwen killing (69kc sounds nice) and passing onto Act2. Eventually.

>> No.21120916

>>21120910
>Gwen killing
you monster

>> No.21120928

What is the key that prints the current save file to a text document and opens it in a text editor? It appears to be stuck in my game for some reason.

>> No.21120935

>>21120928
Ah nevermind, F11 does it.
F9 also hides the parts of the interface that cover the game view so that's interesting.

>> No.21120951
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>>21120916
Well, I tried feeding her her own corpse but it's apparently too creepy. Talk about self esteem issues, man.

>> No.21120957
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>>21120951

>> No.21120999

>>21120957
Yeah, I imagine she was giving me that sort of look. I'd try to tell her there's nothing wrong with her body, it's nice and fresh, and there's nothing to be creeped out at. But she just wouldn't listen. And would still follow me closely whenever I come around.
What a curious child.

>> No.21121038

>>21120999
She will grow up and kick your ass in the void

>> No.21121052

>>21121038
Probably. And it'll be fun.

I'm not going to bother her much after Act1 though, really. Pitiless isn't as fun to kill.
Plus that thing where she gains levels every 2 hours in game based on how many [times she's been killed post-act1] or whatever. Dangerous NPCs in towns are not preferable.

>> No.21123327

>>21120730
Does this limit apply to only ranged attacks or do they apply to magic and special actions too?

>> No.21123428

>>21123327
If they're ranged it does, if not, then it doesn't.

>> No.21124024

It is worth to use continuous attacks? i feel like spaming it too much makes me neglect leveling my main weapon skill

Is there any way you can do alot of damage with money storm? thats usually my main damage ability on act2 and start of act3 then i dont know what to do to hit for more

>> No.21124043

>>21124024
Continous attacks should level your main weapon skill, unless you're ranged.

>> No.21124130

>>21124024
>Is there any way you can do alot of damage with money storm?
The more skills and stats your attack method is based on, the more multipliers your damage will have and the better damage it does comparatively at higher levels. Special actions like Violent Garden and Shining Wave do nice damage initially, but are only tied to a single stat and skill, whereas a plain melee attack with a claymore would be tied to at least four things: Strength, Two Hand, Tactics, and Long Sword, not to mention the possibility of critical hits and elemental damage.

>> No.21124213

>>21124130
What are the best attack methods in late games?

>> No.21124484

>>21124213
Martial arts and meteor.

>> No.21124485
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21124485

Does anyone ever seen any alternative sprite to one of Staff (number 110)?

>> No.21124724

>>21124213
<<Kiss>>
or
<<Hug>>

>> No.21124869

What should I be doing with a lucky day if I don't need cure corruption potions? Does it affect crafting?

>> No.21124884

>>21124869
https://elona.fandom.com/wiki/Luck

>> No.21124889

>>21124884
Oh, thanks.

>> No.21126343

>>21124869
It should affect crafted equipment, yes. If you don't want to play blackjack, it's not a bad idea to dig up buried treasures on lucky days, though I don't think the benefit is enough to horde treasure maps until a lucky day comes. If nothing else, you could run through a few dungeons since your luck has a small effect on the quality of item spawns.

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>>21120860
There. Turns out scroll converting is an omake thing, and [W]preaching is instead the way to go.
Easier to see the contrast/border issue in the sprite here. And I really should design the shop to fit as well, but that can wait a bit too.

>> No.21126813
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21126813

Aw man, exactly 2 minutes off from a GET in playtime. Even if it's padded out from being left up while tabbed away.
444:46:44.
I could load a backup, but I really don't like doing that unless the save corrupts or breaks in some way.

>> No.21127978

Why do rotten corpses (10s+) still work to give 50 favor sometimes in +?
Like it seems to be random, though not savescummable, whether it'll give 1 favor or 50 when rotten. Sometimes it's every other offering, sometimes it's always 50, sometimes it's always 1. Might be based on current favor?

The wiki says rotten corpses give 1 favor and that's it. But it doesn't seem to be that simple.

>> No.21127994

>>21127978
Not all rotten corpses are rotten. Did you put it in a dimensional pocket at any point?

>> No.21128026

>>21127994
Oh, is rotten some hidden value that may or may not show properly? I thought they become rotten whenever they visually turn rotten.
And yes, I shove most meats there. Either before or after they rot.
Thing is, the 1 or 50 value doesn't seem affected by meat selected. Savescumming to check, all of them produce the same result. If it's going to be 1 then it's going to be 1. But right after offering it the next one may be 50.
Which is annoying when going for the claim 5x boost because it means the first will be only 5 favor instead of 50.
Maybe I'm doing something really really wrong. Besides letting meat rot in the first place, of course.

>> No.21128193

>>21126813
>Male Predator
Guard! Guard! Guard!

>> No.21128293

>>21126552
Good job, where's her fairy manager though?

>> No.21128316

>>21128193
Yeah, I love it.
Considering changing it to say NEET or House Guardian though.

>> No.21128339

>>21128293
Not there, it seems. Well, having her in the same sprite would feel kind of weird. And I can't have another pet take up a slot there, nor would I want to.
Will look into changing that later, even if it'd feel weird.

>> No.21128411

>>21128026
Yeah, putting food in a dimensional pocket removes the rotten status. So just stuff you corpses in the pocket and remove them.

>> No.21128988

>>21128411
I can't find any information on this at all. And it certainly doesn't unrot them graphically, at least on 1.88R.1.1.
Also gives the same message of eating rotten food, or the nothing happens to the body message if using something that allows eating rotten food.
Regardless, all my food goes in there at sometime, either before or after it rots, but definitely before being used on an altar.

>> No.21129098
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>>21128988
Take the beginner coarse near vernis. One of the lessons covers it. You might just be re-rotting the food or something, because it definitely removes the rotten status.

You can test it by selling it, rotten food doesn't sell.

>> No.21129194

>>21129098
Huh. It works for that; removing "rotten" from the name and allowing them to be sold.
Eating them still has rotten effects. Tested with several types of meats. But offering them works fine.

Well I guess that's not the problem. I always, always 4ds my meats. Habit from having very little carrying weight left.

>> No.21129519

>>21129194
iirc the rotten quality is tracked by a countdown value (which can be modified in elosnack). The threshold at which the food has rotten properties and it cannot be sold to the vendor may be slightly different, and I wouldn't be surprised if offering them is considered equivalent to selling to a vendor. Using the 4ds probably just adds a certain number to this value.

>> No.21131861
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21131861

bug report for elona custom-g 1.88R (latest everything).

This happens whenever I step on certain tiles. It is 100% reproducible, and doesn't happen on custom or elonaplus. let me know if you need any files to reproduce.

>> No.21132039
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>>21131861
>An internal error has occurred
Highly descriptive there, Ano.
Anyway, I can't find any problems with the tiles themselves, so my hunch is that I slipped up handling the code for one of the items on the ground. If you could upload a zip of your save folder somewhere, that'd be a big help; if Custom-G crashes and Custom doesn't, I'll be able to fiddle with things until I narrow down the exact cause.

>> No.21132724

>>21132039
here you go:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/2actjkkpc0lnx4g/sav_001.zip?dl=0

>> No.21132848

>>21132039
>>21132724
update: I turned on windows compatibility mode for Win 7 on elonacg.exe and it works now...

>> No.21132853
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>>21132848
All's well that ends well.

>> No.21133337

How many pets do you guys bring with you? I usually bring all 15, but they take forever to grow due to sheer number of them.

>> No.21133383

>>21133337
I find it hard to manage any more than 4 or 5 adventuring pets, and on top of that I don't like duplicating "roles."

>> No.21133433

>>21133337
Usually none, I prefer solo for combat whenever possible. Even if it requires a little more grinding or strategy.

>> No.21133480
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21133480

So does the Discarded Ranch bypass the Faith/10 limit on god pets?

>> No.21133486

>>21133480
Yes. Anything in the ranch isn't considered "yours" while it's there.

>> No.21133489

>>21133486
Sweet.

>> No.21133721

>>21133337
Never more than one or two. The divided experience becomes more of a problem and equipping everyone becomes more of a pain as the party gets bigger.

But riding can be really useful and a defender lets me take far more risks than I otherwise would.

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21133765

>/jp/

>> No.21133908
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No counterplay to these bitches

>> No.21134075
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>>21133908
it's actually lore correct. she doesn't need to have her eyes open, or even be alive, to activate the effect. presumably all it takes is for people to see her face.

>> No.21134337

Can someone confirm if cubes get cMetal bitflag?

>> No.21134634

>>21134075
True, I'm just salty and wanted to vent.

>> No.21134804

>>21133383
What kind of roles do your pets have? I'm thinking a standard tank, a couple dps, and a healer?

>> No.21135156
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21135156

Does Elona+ Custom have overhead floating damage numbers or is it only in Omake?

>> No.21135220

>>21135156
Omake line only.

>> No.21135456

>>21135156
>>21135220
>>21114900
>>21114972
I'm quite jealous of those. Wonder how hard it would be to decompile and port them over, or write in similar functionality without decompiling if necessary.

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>> No.21135500

>>21135456
Well, Custom-G comes with a decompilation guide now, along with the previous compilation guide. Decompiled code won't have BloodyShade's human-readable variable names, but you could still search for particular strings, such as the menu text for autopickup options.

>> No.21135552

Does oomSEST use any of OOEn (hack)'s translation?
How are the omake variants for an English Only Player?

>oomSEST
>Added the option that changes the display style of the potentials in the stats sheet.
>If a potential is very high, it is displayed as "Superb+" or "Superb++".
Oh man. That and the +## thing would be great.
Though I guess +CG has that objet of heart tweak to show actual numbers for some things at least.

>> No.21135576

>>21135552
Plus also has the Glasses of Yacatect, although they're hardly easy to come by.

>> No.21135854

How do I find out about the backgrounds of the gods? I heard kumiromi used to date a goddess?

>> No.21135885

>>21135854
If you progress far enough in the game Sophia will tell you, although a lot of it's only translated in Custom-G.

>> No.21136614
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21136614

Does anyone have updated version of this portrait pack (missing one person on pink row)?

>> No.21136697

>>21133337
One,she is a one woman army and usually carries my sorry ass

>> No.21136762

>>21136697
What kind of a role does she have? Is she your mage or your martial artist tank?

>> No.21136784

>>21136762
Genocider

>> No.21136922

>failed to make a hamburger
jesus, how hard is it to flip a burger?

>> No.21136950
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>>21136922
Hey, flipping is not as easy as it sounds!

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>> No.21137169

>>21136950
well knowing that it costs 10k/burger maybe it's super special recipe.

>> No.21137645

>>21134804
That's pretty much how I have it set up.
Defender makes a great healer, use whoever you like for dps, and then a high Life unit with Provoke.

>> No.21138895

>>21135552
>How are the omake variants for an English Only Player?
Omake overhaul and oomsest both have fully playable english fan translations. There's also a menu option that causes the game to show numbers for things like potential.

>> No.21139767

>>21133486
On the topic of ranches and god pets: does Yacatect's goose lay platinum coins on the ranch as long as you feed them?

>> No.21141140

>>21139767
I haven't tried it myself, but I've read that ranched pets' hunger doesn't increment while you're away.

>> No.21141992

what is next best damaging spell after magic dart stops one shotting everyone?

>> No.21142064

>>21136922
It's pretty fucking difficult to make a hamburger. If you don't get meat with the right texture to make the patty, it ends up tasting like shit and you've failed. Then for the meat if you don't season it properly while you make the patty, you've basically failed.

You ask most people nowadays to take a cow and make a hamburger from scratch, they'll probably tell you to fuck off and leave.

>> No.21142144

What would be the most defensive build for a tank pet? A martial arts cube pet with two shields with nullifies damage attribute?

>> No.21142163

>>21142144

Kurata is a metal race with res element. I'm not sure if bells keep their res element, their seem to be some disagreement there. Teach them healing rain, or Jure's cure, and give them barrier feat, and I think the AP shop as a second defensive feat.

For equips, as many shields as you can give them, with nullifies and reduces physical. They cap at 50% and 90% respectively, but take many thousands of enchant to reach that.

Decreases Physical Damage: Adds EncPow/40 + 5 to reduction score

damage = damage * 100 / limit(100 + reduction, 25, 1000), applied after PV but before buffs

Sometimes Nullifies Damage: Adds EndPow/60 + 3 to prevention score

if limit(prevention / 2, 1, 50) > rnd(100), damage taken is set to 0
Form Shift Delta also adds 20 to prevention

>> No.21142530
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21142530

Is it bad idea to wish for god in town?

>> No.21142660

>>21142530
If you don't care about accidentally mewmewmew'ing entire town probably no.

>> No.21142845

How does spell tracking work in C+G? It says I can track spells in the same manner as skills but the hotkey to track skills is also the hotkey to hide spells.

>> No.21142871

>>21142845
Check your character sheet.

>> No.21143014
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21143014

Where did all those dragons suddenly appear from

>> No.21143687

>>21143014
Ragnarok, its the end of the world and the dragons and giants are descending. It also procs etherwind. Don't worry, it's a common occurrence.

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21145857

Sweet. Definitely going to need to use some flying scrolls on it since I've only really trained medium armour. But with that now I'm floating again, with decent immunities.

>> No.21145951

>>21145857
Potentially a noob question but:
How do you get the sell price estimation?

>> No.21145966

>>21145951
It appears once the item is fully identified. At least in E+(CG). I vaguely remember the same in Vanilla but that was ages ago.
The Sense Quality skill will automatically identify things over time.
Scrolls, rods, the spell of identify, and an NPC usually in trainer sections of towns will also identify things. Though some items need greater identify, which is a higher scroll or higher costing option at the NPC.

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>>21145966
Hmm doesn't do that for me. I'm running 1.76 E+ custom through wineskin though so maybe my install isn't complete. (Back after an elona hiatus)

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21146448

>>21146298
Might be unlocked at some perception/sensequality level.
Might be from an item used, similar to the one that makes pets' HP/MP show below them.
Might be a feat or something. Though looking through my feats list nothing matches.
Don't see anything in the tweaks menu either. And can't find anything relevant in the recent changelog when CtrlFing "estima", "sell for" or "value".

I think it's been that way as far back as I can remember. And it's on almost every item, save for a few like the cooling box or monster heart.

>> No.21146452

>>21145857
I'd recommend using equip update to make it into plate mail first, but anti-teleport makes it unusable garbage. It would be alright on a pet at least.

>>21146298
I believe that was added in a more recent version of plus.

>> No.21146671
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21146671

>>21146452
>but anti-teleport makes it unusable garbage
I can understand that for things that need kiting, but I rarely run into those and have a lesser switch anyway.
By time I get to bossing stuff I'll probably have something better. For now this is the second most usable one I've gotten, most everything else spawns with negative attributes galore.

>> No.21147219
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21147219

Is Meta Pet Tier list from here https://elona.fandom.com/wiki/Thread:27601 still relevant? Any additions considering recent changes?

>> No.21147702

>>21146057
>txt lang(name(tc) + "のスキルの潜在能力が上昇した。", "The potentials of " + name(tc) + "'s skills increases.")
>txt lang(name(tc) + "のスキルの潜在能力が上昇した。", "The potentials of " + name(tc) + your2(tc) + " skills increase" + _s(tc) + ".")
Fixed for the next release of Custom-G.

>> No.21147756

>>21147702
Thank you. Are you also committing these to regular Custom? Like giving changes to the maintainer there.

I only intend to use Custom-G for E+ for the foreseeable future, personally.
But since all the gameplay changes aren't fully togglable and some people like E+'s changes/nerfs mainline Custom still has some use to recommend.

>> No.21147942

If I update my save am I going to lose everything in my shelters? I spent a long time customizing each and every one of them to be unique and location-appropriate, and each one has some decent items. Do I need to go to every one, remove the stuff, update, then go back to each and replace items? Will the tiles be erased too and I'll have to rebuild the insides?

>> No.21148007

>>21147219
Just use whatever you want

>> No.21148008

>>21146452
>I believe that was added in a more recent version of plus.
Actually, I think it was added to Custom by BloodyShade some time ago. Not sure where in the two changelog threads it's mentioned, though.

>>21147942
>When entering a map after updating the game from a previous version [to this version], all constructed shelters on all maps will be deconstructed. This will happen only once.
>Apparently there are people who leave toilets in shelters, so one toilet will be provided when updating the game.
Sounds like you'll have to do that whole deconstruction/reconstruction deal, yeah.

>> No.21148171
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21148171

This is kind of an extremely late reply, but to answer the question >21097332 had from the last thread, the values I edited to increase monster spawns are in the following block of code:

mobdensity = mdata(MDATA_MODERATE_CROWD) * 4
itemdensity = mdata(MDATA_MODERATE_CROWD) / 4
if ( rdtype == 3 ) {
flt
flttypemajor = fsetwear(rnd(length(fsetwear)))
fixlv = FIX_QUALITY_MIRACLE
itemcreate -1, ITEM_ID_DUMMY, -1, -1, 0
if ( adata(ADATA_ID, gdata(GDATA_AREA)) == AREA_RANDOM_DUNGEON ) {
if ( gdata(STARTING_GDATA_FLAG + 353) == 100 ) {
item_identify ci, ITEM_KNOWN_FULL
}
}
mobdensity = mdata(MDATA_MODERATE_CROWD) * 2
itemdensity = mdata(MDATA_MODERATE_CROWD) / 3
}
if ( rdtype == 8 ) {
mobdensity = mdata(MDATA_MODERATE_CROWD) * 4
itemdensity = mdata(MDATA_MODERATE_CROWD) / 10
}
if ( rdtype == 10 ) {
mobdensity = mdata(MDATA_MODERATE_CROWD) * 3
itemdensity = mdata(MDATA_MODERATE_CROWD) / 6
}
if ( rdtype == 9 ) {
mobdensity = mdata(MDATA_MODERATE_CROWD) * 3
itemdensity = mdata(MDATA_MODERATE_CROWD) / 10
}
repeat mobdensity

The default values usually look like this: mdata(MDATA_MODERATE_CROWD) / *NUMBER*

So what I did is flip the division into multiplication. This should work for items as well, but I never really bothered trying. At one point I was trying to make this a tweak menu option, with the hopes of donating the code and getting it mainlined or something, but I'm just not proficient enough in HSP to pull it off.

The only bugs that I've noticed are that occasionally a boss/quest npc won't spawn in a dungeon (probably due to an overflow - which could likely be fixed by decreasing the spawn multiplication) but that's easily fixed by resetting the dungeon floor with backspace+enter, and very very rarely it may crash in a dungeon- but I've only had that happen twice in like 40 hours.

>> No.21148353

>>21145857
Thats actually really fucking good, you may be able to put some resists on that too.

>> No.21148775

>>21148008
Guess I'll take screenshots of each so I can rebuild them all. I hope I don't forget about one with some really rare junk in it.

>> No.21148845

>>21116892
I too would like to know this

>> No.21148897
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21148897

God, I love martial arts.

>> No.21149151 [DELETED] 

Can someone remind me what font to use to display japanese?

>> No.21149735

>>21148007
Sadly balance isn't quite there yet. There is a lot of useless pets.

>> No.21149743
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21149743

I always liked the clock from the beautify mod but I didn't like how oval it was, so I took the clock from the all-in-one pack and edited it. Figured I'd post it. There's one to match the beautify theme and one to match the all-in-one theme.
It also turns out that the clock from the beautify mod had the wrong roman numeral for 4.

>> No.21149762

>>21149743
Tank you

>> No.21149990

>>21149743
>It also turns out that the clock from the beautify mod had the wrong roman numeral for 4.
Oh whoa. Unnoticed by so many for so long. Probably due to having the right letters in total and being upside down.

>> No.21150130

I'm having trouble with the sandbag option in G. I have it set to on, yet I'm not gaining XP.

I just updated my old old save, and it's in my house. Any tips for getting this working?

>> No.21150238
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21150238

>>21149743
Thank you. I like it oval and was only really bothered by the contrast. Having 4 fixed is nice.

>> No.21150318

>>21150238
looking good!
I almost like that color more.

>> No.21150373
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21150373

>>21150318
I definitely do. It matches the rest of the default interface better that way.
Pretty easy to do too. Just deselect all the plants or anything else you don't want modified, or select what you want to, and desaturate it by 70%.

>> No.21150724
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21150724

Oh dear. I finally got enough wishes for all the shift cores, but now I noticed they're out of order in the interface.
How do I fix this?

>> No.21151297
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21151297

Done killing gwen for now, bored of it. 40kc is enough so yeah.
I should probably actually go at Zeome sometime without grinding a ton beforehand so that he's more than a straight pushover.
Even tried just waiting turns to see if he could hit me at all, then killed off all the babby mobs he spawns and accidentally got 2-3 lazy hits in on him so he died. Oh well.

>> No.21151686
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21151686

I know that feeling pretty well.

>> No.21151974

Okay, so I've been playing a lot of OOENh, what am I missing out on by not playing +CG or OOMSEST?

>> No.21152139

>>21151974
Plus (and C/CG) is mostly story and QoL.

The biggest difference in direct long term gameplay is that higher grinds don't grind to a halt because potentials are easier to manage. Potentials drain faster, and platinum raises them back up faster. You'll generally never end up at hopeless in normal play.
Then there's new regions and quests.
A ton of new monsters, including boss level stuff. Things actually worth levelling for, which offsets the platinum changes quite well overall I do think.
Useful buildings like the discarded ranch and dojo for pet management. Allowing you to have near infinite pet count, even though the active pet count limit is still 15.
Useful features to help against hard RNG grinding like equipment making, consistent material scroll rotations, consistent monthly/enchantment based living weapon levellup perks, etc.
AP to make almost any pet useful by helping with their shortcomings like speed and life, as well as feats and abilities. Though that's definitely overpowered. It makes the choice of pet for stats far less important; making special abilities the only real difference in the end.
Astral Light Pen for copying unique NPCs as pets.
Recently more weapon types.

And a ton more, but listing everything would take literally forever.

>> No.21152143
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21152143

Oh dear. I think that's pretty good.

>> No.21152227

>>21152139
Oh wow, thank you, maybe when I'm bored of this run I'll try it out then, sounds pretty cool to me.

>> No.21152285

>>21152227
Have fun with it. I intend to do the same for OOENh or oomSESt as well when I'm bored of +CG, eventually.

>> No.21153005
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21153005

I resized, cleaned up, and aligned a white partyhat for PCCs.
It doesn't play very well with hair, but I lopped off the sides of my hair just for that to make it fit.

>> No.21153571

>>21150130
Nevermind, it's cause I was in my home. When I used a sandbag elsewhere it worked fine.

>> No.21153758

>>21151297
what is kc?

>> No.21153769
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21153769

>>21153758
Just kill count.

>> No.21154245
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21154245

Which is more correct, Karura or Carla? I know they're both technically valid for カルラ or whatever. But is there an official romanization in the referenced game or reason for the discrepancy?

>> No.21155544

>>21154245
Pretty sure that's supposed to be a silent 'u', so I'll say "Carla".

>> No.21155744

So I finally merged all of my edits to the most recent version of Elona and I figured I would share them here and see if there was any interest. If there is, I'll make a wikia page and share the download.

I understand that a lot of these changes remove some of the grind and RNG elements of the game, and may feel cheaty, however that's the point.

Like many of you, I've played this game for many years and played multiple characters for thousands of hours. With these changes I was able to have a great time playing for about 150 hours a year or two ago... and am looking forward to it again on the latest version.

Here are my edits: https://pastebin.com/eftyWavf

Definitely makes for a more chill experience. Anyone interested?

>> No.21155749

>>21155744
Sorry forgot to mention this is built on 1.88R + Custom + G

>> No.21156542

>>21155744
Yes I'm quite interested. I love collecting all variants, edits, and forks. And surely it will be quite useful once I reach such a point as well.

>> No.21157345

>New? Start here:
https://pastebin.com/RbQDNtmt
+ Google Drive (1.84): https://drive.google.com/open?id=1WLYDkUFjEU2GcpctZaDRpm7xGxwEAs_D
^ Link is broken.

I found the elonaplus1.84. zip in https://bloodyshade.no-ip.org:42333/ElonaCustom/Elona+/ but is that the release to download and play since there's like 5 more versions after 1.84?

>> No.21157378

>>21157345
Well the pastebins are outdated. That happens.
Download the latest releases of Plus, Custom, and maybe Custom-G. Unless you disagree with changes in any of the changelogs for whatever reason.
https://bloodyshade.no-ip.org:42333/ElonaCustom/
https://elona.fandom.com/wiki/Thread:29336
Extract Plus. Extract Custom into that folder. Optionally extract Custom-G into that.

Bloodyshade has a failed SSL cert, but it still works.

>> No.21157380

>>21146671
Teleport isn't just for kiting. You can get around faster. You can back out of a fight to top off your health without using any valuable potions. You can get away from a group of enemies and create a way to fight them one at a time. You can escape from an endless list of problems. With teleportation, your enemies can only realistically beat you if they can kill you in a turn or two.

Losing the ability to teleport cuts your fighting ability to half of what it should be.

>>21152143
It's pretty good depending on where you are in the game. I'd take the awesome swimwear over it. Use a craft repair kit on it if you're going to wear it or give it to a pet.

>> No.21157405

>>21157378

Gotcha, downloading 1.88R Elona+ and Custom. I'll check out Custom-G, if I need it, after I play a bit since I don't know anything about the game. Thanks for the help!

>> No.21157445

>>21157380
I have animations turned off most of the time. And don't care much for in game turns as that just means I'll get hungry faster and pass some time for date based things in most cases. So moving around fast is fine enough outside of heavy danger.
And I can switch equipment when teleporting is valuable. One turn lost at the very start generally won't kill me, especially preparing beforehand for dungeon bosses. 5s weight won't encumber me either.
Plus not being teleported around from monsters pulling me in is kind of nice.

Like yeah, teleporting is great. But it's not a normal part of my grind at least. Most of the time.

Already have Superb#####+ on most resistances, and ##### on others. Body slot is mostly for PV at this point. Craft repair kit took it to [15,111].

>> No.21157503

How hard did they nerf Nefia, and in what version?
I remember getting small metals every dungeon but now they're like every other dungeon at best, and lesser in number.

>> No.21157982

>>21157503
The only thing I remember offhand is this:
https://elona.fandom.com/wiki/Changelog_%28Elona%2B%29/1.70_-_1.79#1.72
>Changed the mechanic that had a random chance of awarding a random number of small medals after clearing a random Nefia. The chance awarding small medals will now depend on the danger level of the Nefia (the difficulty of the first floor where the entrance is located); small medals will never be awarded if danger level is 50 or below. When awarding small medals, the number given will be 1, plus an additional one for fever mode, and another if it was an awakened Nefia.

>> No.21158003

>>21157982
So it's only 1, +1fever, +1awakenned?
I remember it being something like 3-10 at lv100 something and capping at 20 near lv200. Probably misremembering specifics, but still, it was a lot more.
1 (one) metal most of the time until act3 is a pretty heavy nerf.
I mean, it was kind of overpowered and made maxing speed easy as hell even without AP. But man, that sucks.

>> No.21158038

>>21149743
IIII is more often than not used in place of IV on roman clock faces, couldn't tell you why but it's not an error in this case

>> No.21158057
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21158057

>>21158038
IIII would be fine, really. But it's not. It's VI.

>> No.21158063

>>21158057
Oh, lol. My bad for making assumptions

>> No.21159655

>>21157982
This had to have been at least partially undone at some point, because I do occasionally find them in <50 dungeons. Either that or it's part of C/CG's un-nerfs.

>> No.21159731
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21159731

>>21157982
wait wat
There's a duplicate North Tyris now? In/after the latest story section I would assume.
Is there anything interesting there yet?
Regular North Tyris is still accessible then, right?

>> No.21159870

>>21159731
Gaius Vis is still under construction, although it's slightly more developed now than it was then.

>> No.21161289

>>21155744
>Makes waking someone not cost 1 karma.
I never understood why players couldn't just wake someone without striking. Use something "crazy" like the Interact option then wake them.

I like your changes, they let you just sit down and play. Without tedium, or reduced tedium depending on your activity.

>> No.21161368

>>21161289
you can use a whistle or play an instrument,too

>> No.21161537

Here's a link to the download: https://elona.fandom.com/wiki/User:Garfu2

I was able to fix the unlimited spell stock for wizard harvest/wish/meteor, so now those stocks are still diminished so it's a teeeeeny bit less cheaty. I also added a few more things down at the bottom of the change list.

I'm open to adding more things that fit this variant if there are any suggestions.

>> No.21161775

>>21161537
Are you planning on maintaining this variant like custom and g? Because your changes sound really good to me, but I don't want to get used to certain lifestyle if I lose it at the next update.

>> No.21161809

>>21161775
I made it much easier to merge my changes in this update. It took me a few hours to update from 1.77. I think I can maintain it for a little while.

With that said, my life is going to get a lot more complicated in like 6 months so I'm not entirely sure.

Valid concern.

>> No.21161881
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21161881

>>21161809
Life always gets more complicated. All you can do is future-proof things the best you can and hope that your work outlives you.

>> No.21162084
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21162084

I tried wishing for "secretchar" and found two extra characters that werent in the wiki, s boy and old butler, can somebody tell me their skills and if they evolve?

>> No.21162114

>>21162084
https://elona.fandom.com/wiki/Changelog_%28Elona%2B%29#1.82
>S boy
>Base level 1, karune. Secret character. Suitable for riding.
>Heal Critical on low health.
>Uses Eye of dimness, Blame Pain, and Thread of Innervation.
https://elona.fandom.com/wiki/Changelog_%28Elona%2B%29#1.83
>mazin with a base level of 1. Secret character. No cHorse bit flag. Clash Rush on low health.
>Uses Dancing Wire, Zero shoot, Speed, and Feather.
Don't think there are any evolutions for either.

>> No.21162264

>>21161809
Detailed instructions on where to look and what to do would let someone pick up the mantle.

>> No.21162274

>>21162264
Yeah I marked all of my edits and new code in the source so we should be good for a while. I was just saying I personally can't guarantee indefinite updating. For the foreseeable future, sure.

>> No.21163145

>>21161537
>I've created an Elona variant called CustomGFU that was built on top of Elona 1.88R + Custom + G.
I would say Elonaplus + Custom + G 1.88R.2.1 instead. That way you definitely cover all subversions and it's clearer.
>If this gets popular (> 5 people???) I'll consider adding in switches to the tweaks menu in order to switch on and off some of the more popular changes.
That would be SWEET.
If they could all get toggles and merged into the same version, especially with a "show advanced fun options" toggle to show/hide GFU toggles, or a separate menu kind of like OO(ENh) does, then I could recommend and use just that one version for everything.
Same with all of the changes in Custom-G. Especially a toggle for thirst/piss if possible. I really like the concept or some fetishy roleplaying, but can't justify keeping it on for normal gameplay.

I wouldn't demand such a thing from you. But if you're willing then that's glorious.
Is it complex at all to add toggles? For entire sections of content even?

> Living weapon max level increased to 25
Is that max level before it starts sucking blood, or max level in general?

>> No.21163163

>>21163145
Yeah I already renamed it so it's more clear.

It's not complex to add toggles, just time consuming.

Living blood sucking is completely removed.

>> No.21163167

>>21163163
You're a cool person.

>> No.21163189

I'm having an issue where the chat bubble above NPC's heads aren't appearing after I complete their quest. It's annoying when there are a few NPCs in a room and I have to check each one for the reward. Not really sure what's causing it, but I'm on Elona+CG. Note that this started happening randomly and I didn't make any changes to the files.

>> No.21163446

>>21159655
Not listed in changelogs of either.
But I think that change only applies to the bejewelled chests. Pretty sure the monsters themselves, especially dungeon bosses, still have a chance at dropping 1.
Just got 2 from a non-awoken level 167 dungeon off nefia fever. 1 from the monster 1 from the chest. Seems sensible enough.

>> No.21163465

>>21163189
Hasn't it always done that?
It takes a turn, or a few turns to show up. Probably due to requiring the NPC get a turn to move first.
Early on it doesn't make much of a difference because your speed is low and somewhat likely to let them move once. But later on you're pretty much guaranteed to touch them beforehand.

I just pay attention to the NPC's name/position while taking the jobs and remember it through the job. Not very hard.
Kind of wish their sprite would show up on the dialogue window instead of the random portrait though, for non-uniques. Random portrait really adds nothing, and doesn't help communication or identification for that.

>> No.21163664

>>21163163
>Yeah I already renamed it so it's more clear.
>that was built on top of Elona 1.88R + Custom + G
Oh I meant specifically 1.88R.2.1. Like with that .2.1 part. Because otherwise it could be based off 1.88R.1.1, 1.88R.1.2, or something like that.
So something like
>that was built on top of ElonaPlus Custom-G 1.88R.2.1

>> No.21163679

>>21163465
I meant that it never appears no matter how many turns. I'm on version 1.88R, so maybe this is a new bug. And yeah, I agree with putting the sprite on the dialogue window. Maybe the developers kept it for immersion?

>> No.21164513

>>21163664
Ah good point. Updated

>> No.21164598

>>21163679
What Speed do you have? If you've got Act 3 speed and NPCs seem like they're standing still, it'll take forever for the chat bubble to appear.

>> No.21165523
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21165523

>>21163679
Hmm. Well it works fine for me, after waiting several turns for them to move.

>> No.21165742

>>21163163
Some of the changes you've made are really amazing like fire ice attacks don't destroy items. I've been looking for something like this.

>> No.21166235

>>21161537
Any plans to make the source public? I'm interested in adding the code you used for the living weapons and the improved quality equipment to the custom version that I've been modifying here and there for fun. I just can't seem to find the lines I need to edit for those.

>> No.21166571

>>21166235
Yeah probably at some point. If I fail to update in time I'll release it all, I just don't have it in the current zip. I'll add it to the next one. In the mean time pm me on discord or reddit and I can help out.

>> No.21166608

>>21166235
Here are the snippets: https://pastebin.com/xiqMWd6e

>> No.21166646

>>21166571
>>21166608

Thanks for the code snippets! I don't have a discord or reddit account, so I'll just wait for now. The code you've posted should point me in the right direction anyhow.

Thanks again!

>> No.21166821

>>21166646
Np!

The weapon level is in a bunch of places so look around that first section for < 15 and change it to whatever you want.

>> No.21166866

>>21164598
I'm still on act 1. It's weird because all other bubbles still show up.

>> No.21167179

The custom-AI related dialogs added by Elona Custom doesn't change the pronouns (him/her) correctly after a pet has consumed Forbidden Meat. This bug has been there for ages. Is it possible to fix it in Custom-G?

>> No.21167585

So after getting a ranch do I just keep selling hamburguers forever or is there something I should keep an eye on to catch it.
e+cg

>> No.21167752

>>21162114
I have the amazing image of a badass old man melee follower, but I guess zero shoot means they are a gunner?

>> No.21167842
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21167842

>>21167752
Just means that he likes to work up close and personal.

>> No.21169798

Larnniere survived a nuke at my home. This intentional now?

>> No.21169830

>>21167842
I really like the graphics of that rope. It's not realistic at all. Even appears behind the character throwing it, using a sine wave to portray the energy put into it, which slowly comes down to a straight line as it hooks on.
That's a very good abstract representation that makes it quite satisfying to see and, I'd imagine, to use.

>> No.21169939

>>21169798
Nevermind, just get 24k in the bank and land 2 nukes for guaranteed death.

>> No.21170126

https://elona.fandom.com/wiki/Performaid_bitchiack
>female imp wizard (male)
>has innate superb (500) resistance to raw magic, and ability to use MP Breath
>5000+ damage unresistable cone attack
>Just sayin' but Ano deserves a dick punch for adding this thing .
It's not even that dangerous; doesn't always use its MP Breath, and surviving that is pretty easy anyway. But the comments are certainly amusing.

Is it really unresistable? Pretty sure magic resistance would block MP breath. It only seemed to do <1k damage on me with #####+.
Maybe they meant the brainwashing can remove resistance, which is true. It does seem quite accurate with that. But it's not nearly as fast as earlier challenges like grass dancers, so it doesn't get a ton of turns in to do so.

>> No.21170475

Wrestling when?

>> No.21170802

>>21170475
naked mud wrestling when?

>> No.21171358

Any good LPs, particularly for Vanilla or OO? I've watched Briarcliffs Vanilla playthrough but it sort of just ended so looking for something to scratch the itch while I'm away from my PC

>> No.21171818

I posted my mod to the wikia here: https://elona.fandom.com/wiki/Thread:30363

>> No.21171932

fuck, I've never felt so horrible in my entire life
>bored of the endless grinding
>decide to begin imagining RP scenarios to make things fun
>my pc is a prodigious magician family heir who was disinherited after an accident left me as a lich
>the only companion is a young maid that grew up alongside with since birth
>one day at my lowest point, finding refuge from guards in Derphy, I happened to buy a girl from a slave trader
>figured that my maid needed a female companion
>grinding karma is really starting to get on my nerves at this point
>take the RP to another level and find custom PCCs, portraits, and even fiddle around with evochat
>make them catgirls because why not
>starting to gradually immerse myself into the world
>spend a few days grinding while I play out scenes
>then I find a couple cat sister diaries and king heart's
>read up on the wiki that they have better stats
>I can gene engineer my maids into true catgirls
>whythehellnot
>take a few hours preparing everything
>in the final moment, I come to the realization that my maids are going to be absorbed by the cat sisters
>memories of the past few days resurface
>almost don't go through with it, but I've spent this much time into the process already
>watch in horror as they disappear
I've changed the PCCs of the cat sisters into their form, but are they really the same? This will probably haunt me for a while.

>> No.21172069

>>21171932
It's okay. They're still there, as unraveled genetic goop that was mindlessly fused with a foreign body! Both of them did it willingly too, all you had to do was ask.
>"Just in case my feelings aren't transferred too, I just wanted to say... Ever since we were kids, Anon, I've always been in love with you. When you had your accident, a part of me was a little happy, because I thought you wouldn't have to get married off to some fancy magician girl... Ehehe, I'm terrible, aren't I? These feelings have kept me going this whole time. But if you want to save the kingdom, I'll gladly do this for you. I'm yours. Just please, don't forget me how I am now. I guess this is goodbye... Tell me, did you ever love me back?"
>"Anon, I thought you were going to be a horrible person at first, like my last owners. But I could see in that girl's eyes that she really trusted you, and I got to see how good of a person you are. Thank you for giving me this happiness for this part of my life. It wasn't long but it was the first time I've felt free since I was small, and I got two wonderful friends to spend it with. I think I even... Ah, what am I saying? It doesn't matter now. I'm glad I get to lay down my life to help the guy who did so much for the two of us. All I ask is that you treat these catgirls well, okay? We'll be part of them from now on. Let's go and save the kingdom, okay? Oops, ahehe, I didn't mean to start crying, how embarrassing..."

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>>21171932
Systematically? No. It's like adding herbs to food; you only add extra aspects from them, not carrying their entire self.
For roleplaying? HELL yeah. You merged those fuckers together like the glorious undead magician you are. Or attached their souls to the new body, maybe even having them share or fuse consciousness. Whatever works best for you.

The idea of a lich being haunted is amusing though. Kind of like this skeleton. Spook the spook.

>> No.21172148

>>21171932
Not even dead, just inert genetic material without any consciousness inside the catsisters

>> No.21172177
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>>21171932
Memories, life experiences, emotions, desires, hopes, dreams... These endure forever, even if only as part of a greater whole.

>> No.21172454

>>21172177
I need to get around to those games too sometime. And maybe creating a graphics pack of Megaten demons to cover matching monsters in Elona.
That's some good shit right there.

>> No.21172478

>>21114457
The pastebin with the elona plus download has a 404 for the google drive link. can someone update?

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>>21172069
fuck, why are you doing this to me anon? I'm just about to load up my backup from 10 hours ago now

>> No.21172528

>>21172515
I misread フラッパー as ブラッパー and thought he'd gas himself.
I'm sorry.

>> No.21172534

>>21172515
Don't worry, you'll eventually stop caring about them, and in time forget.

>> No.21172543

>>21172085
I like the idea of attaching souls to the new body. Not sure about how ethical that is, but hey, at least they're catgirls now.
>>21172177
Thanks anon, that makes me feel better
>>21172148
This does not

>> No.21172553

>>21172543
:^)

>> No.21172688

>>21172543
>Not sure about how ethical that is
Who cares about ethics? You're an undead magician, and you really really want your girls alive. There's no taboo here, it's Elona. It won't cost you an arm and a leg either.

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>>21172688
Well, in my character's bio it says I'm on an adventure for atonement. Still, it's probably a small blip when you take a look at the bigger picture.

>> No.21174143

Is evasion even useful past act 2?

>> No.21174265

>>21174143
Yes. The reason evasion builds suck, is that even if you dodge 9 hits in a row, you still need to have defense to avoid being 1 shot every 10 hits. However, if you have a good pv build, that evasion will lower how often you take damage by a percent. It has diminishing returns, but being able to up to dodge half of enemies attacks ain't bad.

>> No.21174425

I've been looking at the partial changelog and some of the new ranch changes look interesting. I'm thinking of getting the master servant relationship high enough to give special instructions.

>> No.21174473

how does yacatects gem work? I get that it only works once a month, but it doesn't mention how the extra plat works, does it work with your favor with her or your faith skill? and how much do you need to get the extra plat?

>> No.21174570

>>21174425
What kind of changes?

>> No.21175031
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21175031

Is this the largest resolution it can go?

>> No.21175615

>>21175031
Not sure if there's a limit on width, but I play at 1920x768.
868 works without issue? It's been a while since I bothered, but I remember having garbage display or crashing at >768 height, and near 1080 resolutions (by integers of 4) just straight up resizing themselves back down.

>> No.21175666

>Q: How do I change the game's resolution, and what's the maximum?
>A: Open config.txt and find the lines "windowW" and "windowH.". There is no limit to the width, and you can increase the height up to 868. In order to avoid minor graphical glitches, including the top and right edge tiles being partially hidden, as well as staying as close to a 16:9 ratio as possible, 1440(or other multiple of 48)x808 is the ideal resolution. If you want to play in fullscreen, you'll have to create a custom resolution for your graphics card, as detailed in https://i.imgur.com/AT1U25m.png..
Sweet, 868 seems to be working great. Garbage was on an old AMD card and probably that thing's fault anyway.

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>>21175666
That imgur thing is kind of stupid in regards to NVIDIA's custom resolution setting. There are automatic timing modes. GTF and CVT definitely do work. If I remember correctly, CVT leaves more in blanking, mostly for analog signals, for things like CRTs. But either of the two will work. DMT doesn't seem to.
CRU is definitely a useful utility, especially for AMD cards, but it's not required for NVIDIA.

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21176123

Ah yeah, the backlog fucks up with blanked out spaces whenever entering a job from the town job board with a vertical resolution of 868. Making about 4 lines unreadable. That sucks.

>> No.21176351

bug report, E+cg 1.88R latest:

Summon Spirit summons level 3 spirits even though I've levelled the spell past 100. Is this a problem with E+ or one of the mods?

>> No.21176415

>>21176351
I think it's just that "summon X" abilities have fixed spellpower/results.
>if ( _switch_val == SKILL_TYPE_SUMMON | _switch_sw ) {
>[...]
>efp = (efp / 25 + efp * efp / 10000 + cdata(CDATA_LEVEL, cc)) / 2
>[...]
>if ( efid == SKILL_SPELL_SUMMON_SPIRIT ) {
>efp = 2 + rnd(8)

>> No.21176524

>>21174570
You can go read the changes on the release thread. The ones that have my interest are the ones that allow you to increase your relationships with your livestock by feeding/rubbing/training them. Sacrificing them is also cool but doesn't add to my plan.

>> No.21176784

What settings do you guys use for convenience?

>> No.21176929

>>21176784
collect items at the end of party quests

>> No.21177572
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21177572

Why does the Objet of Heart number show negative when the color and regular # indicate positive? For the negotiation bonus here.

>> No.21177603

It's been a few months since I updated, or even checked out what was going on in the community. What's with the R in Elona+ 1.88R? Did ano get the idea into his head that he needed to start adding letters to just base E+ like everyone else?

Also is the Custom & G up to date with Base + since yesterday?

>> No.21177651

>>21177603
Pretty sure R just means Reupload, and gets used when the version uploaded had some unintended fuckup, so R would have that corrected.
It's happened before too. Like somewhere in 1.6xR or 1.7xR I think.

>> No.21178092

>>21171932
Be careful of diving too far into the realm of RP anon. When you actually look at elona's mechanics through the eyes of someone LIVING in it things start to get quite sinister.
Or you can just do what I do and create a monster through the use of tones.
>a psychopathic drunkard little girl that only really cares about the main party
>forcefully gened all but one of the god pets into herself to attain greater levels of power to kill more things
>whenever she is blackout drunk you sometimes hear different voices coming from her
>this is her slightly losing control of herself and giving the mind's of those she has gened a chance to call out

>> No.21178219

>>21177651
ah, alright. Don't remember seeing that myself, but I'll take your word for it.

Doesn't answer my other question though. Don't feel like going through the trouble of downloading versions of C or G that I can't even use.

>> No.21178238

>>21178219
I've never seen it explicitly stated for Elona specifically, but other projects have used R for that. And the changelogs are identical or omitted otherwise so it really couldn't be much else.

As for how up to date with + is, they're all up to 1.88R. They don't ever up their base version number without entirely matching base.
1.88R.2 is the latest Custom, 1.88R.2.1 is the latest Custom-G. It's "+.++.C.G" basically.

>> No.21178476

>>21178092
Living in the Elona world cant be too bad

right?

>> No.21178601

>>21178476
>Super world cancer
>Mutagenic Super World Chemo that has metaphysical symptoms that can and will turn you into a horrifying abomination before painfully killing you
>All the gods are fucking crazy in their own special ways
>Gods are also bent on keeping humanity on the planet because they die off if people leave the planet en masse
>Literal planet trying to kill people by rearranging itself every few months (Years if you're lucky) to make dungeons specifically filled with monsters to either kill off anyone weak who ends up in them or power up crazy adventurers who may or may not be shells for 5th dimensional horrors that see even the Divine as their play things (Us)
>Inherent madness of the world
Yeah, I'd say that tthe world of Elona is kinda of fucked, and only the fact that everyone is insane keeps Eyth from being all powerful

>> No.21178976

>>21178476
If you are one of the adventurers that is capable of remaining only in the EARLY stages of nefia syndrome... maybe because you can actually fight back against the insanity and lean into it somewhat.

Your average smuck is likely to die from their own pants opening rifts that summon creatures from the void to murder them.

>> No.21179571

I've got a question about farming shades. I have the flying snail, but it is only breeding low level crappy shades. Is there something I'm missing?

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>30 wins straight on 20 chips blackjack
>cheat anyways
>get caught
almost thought I was akagi for a second there

>> No.21180098

I like how when bards die, they don't question WHY ME or anything like that. They just ask "Did I suck that bad?". They know the problem, and they know it well. That's some good writing.

>> No.21180312

I remember entering my birthday in somewhere, I think at Inn NPCs. What exactly does that do?
Just missed the date and forgot to check places but saved it anyway and don't want to lose out on all I've done since.
Is it something neat like New Year's Gifts? Or something kind of meaningless like a cake?

>> No.21181047

>>21178601
>gods are crazy
so what? they dont really interact much with the local population

>> No.21181263

Hey pals.
I have two questions.
1. How to make macros? I'm running food shop, and I want to make cooking easier: press shortcut, press enter. I tried using Autohotkey, but stucked at start - Can't send number into game.

2. Where can I find Eloscummer. Link on Elona Wiki is DEAD. I want it to backup my saves.

>> No.21181420
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>>21181263
Just copy paste your saves somewhere else and put things like a date or important in game event

do other gods PCC exists? i have lulwy,kumi a VERY OLD jure and this average ehekatl,would be appreciated knowing if better ones exist

>> No.21181561
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21181561

https://elona.fandom.com/wiki/Eye_of_Mind
Oh shoot, critical damage seems to be quite shitty with lightweight equipment. Using ammo that's only 6.5s and equipment that's medium weight it probably only gives like 140-150% damage or something, versus 3x for those fancy 180s weapons.
Kind of makes me wish I'd trained heavy armour from the start. But whatever, that's fine for now. Would take a lot of cursed flying scrolls for that anyway.

I will, however, level this new living weapon with more vorpal and magic damage, instead of critical bonus.
If I'm reading this right, critical bonus on equipment doesn't even help at all past level 900 in Eye of Mind? ((Attribute/50)+(Eye of Mind^0.5)), max of 30. So eventually that would be useless anyway. I think.

>> No.21181715

>>21181561
I think you get a bonus for just having Eye of Mind at all, so it's 784. (256 if you use a Garok's Hammer on some ammo.)

>> No.21181769

>Become a normie
>Going into 4th year of Uni after 1 more exam
>Sudden urge to play again
>Know it will get in the way of my studies

I thought I was free once I killed the inner gods. I'm thinking maybe a pet build this time.

>> No.21181822

>>21150724
Haven't played in ages. What's a shift core?

>> No.21181830

>>21181822
Either a power ranger transform badge, or a magical girl transform wand. There's some debate.

>> No.21181845

>Plus Custom G is too easy for my tastes
>OO is missing too much content
What do? Is there anyway to reverse the free platinum/super cheap training and cheap identifying that makes Sense Quality literally useless in +CG or am I just gonna have to suck it up and miss out on all the extra content?

>> No.21181846
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>>21181715
That's something to consider. I might just do that once I have small medals for one.

Also, if I'm reading this part right then making my bolt anywhere below 1s weight would make this part into 1d2 instead of 1d400. Since it says the integer part only I assume it rounds down.
Seems that would almost double the crit chance. Which sounds like a fair option. One much easier to reach than 180s heavy equipment 3x crit damage when it does hit. Which wouldn't require training up the heavy armour skill.

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>>21181830
Okay ya go on please I'm interested

>> No.21181864

>>21181850
Exactly that. You can use it when gauge is 100%, and you'll transform. You can select a new appearance to transform into, and I think you can set a catchphrase(s) somewhere. Each color has it's own buffs.

https://elona.fandom.com/wiki/Shift_cores

>> No.21181875
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>>21181864
That's so fucking cool, thanks anon! I was on the fence about playing again but I think I'll give it a go.

>> No.21181910

>>21181845
Well, Custom and its variants are open source now, and almost if not all of the variables are clearly labelled. You could change platinum values and item identifying costs all you want. Especially if you have the source of from just before the update you want to revert.

I disagree with that quite a bit though.
Like I REALLY like the platinum changes, NOT because it's easier or faster, but because there actually IS reason to level super high.
It balances it out to take similar time to reach the end game as Vanilla/OO does, it's just higher level in the process because there's higher level things to kill.
Not being hopeless in skills due to eventual cost is less depressing. Having to go back and spend platinum more frequently because potential goes down more/faster on level (And goes up higher when spending) is a nice timed break between dungeon crawling. Good motivation time to do town jobs.

I also don't mind having cheap identifying because I genuinely never use it. Ever. If I don't have the skill or scrolls to identify something then I'll either wait or haphazardly use it depending on danger level. Just like in most roguelikes. Bothering to take the extra steps to talk to an extra NPC just to take the easy way out early on is gay. And once you have Sense Quality levelled and some Identify stocks/scrolls you never need to.

That being said, if you do make changes, I'd be happy to see them posted. Snippets, the whole source, and/or a compiled variant. Any of that is good shit. I like messing around and playing with all of them whenever I find the time to.

>> No.21181934

>>21181910
Oh, I never realised that source was available, I may have a poke around in it then and see what changes I'd like to make if I can

>> No.21181974

>>21181934
Yeah, that's what the .hsp files included with Custom and G are. There's also a howto compile image with G.

There's also an image guide on howto decompile as well. Which wouldn't produce a clean and labelled source at all, and probably wouldn't be relevant to your issue, but could show interesting results for copying features over from omake/OOMENh/oomSEST/etc.

>> No.21182311

Since crits only give me an extra 30% damage apparently, I guess the Predator class kind of sucks.
Battlemage for extra 5% spell chance is sounding sweet.
But I only have one business card, and I kind of want to change it to either say Predator cosmetically (Since only lowercase actually changes it?), NEET, House Guardian, or some other class joke.
Oh well, it'll wait.

>> No.21183649

>>21181864
>>21181830
when I first saw it I thought it was so I can make my characters go super saiyan

>> No.21183656

>>21183649
Hmm, that'd make sense.. except for the color coding. It's clearly a team transformation kit.

>> No.21184234

Is there a way to get the suck blood feat outside of choosing it as a starter? playing on 1.85 CG

it's for my rp

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>>21184234
You get more feats as you level up.

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>>21184250
im actually retarded

>> No.21184919

>>21184259
Don't worry anon. We all are.

>> No.21184936

question for the coders:

is it possible to increase the inventory item limit? 200 is really limiting.

Ideally it should be tied to Weightlifting, e.g. +1 Weightlifting = +1 limit.

>> No.21185186

>>21184936
+1 for more item limit. Even increasing it to 500 would really make life better

>> No.21185890
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>>21184936
Well, you can already hold a total of 500 items on you if you count 4DP as well. Which you should definitely train and use unless you're roleplaying an antimagic character.
And even without that, it's not really limiting that hard once you have storage buildings for things.
There's not really that many high value items to loot anyway. You'd have to pick up cheap shit and like cook every corpse or something.

If it's possible I really wouldn't be against an increased inventory space OPTION based on weight lifting.
Though +1 per level would be quite overpowered I think. Something that scales down in per level effectiveness as levels get higher, like (sqrt(WL) x 3) - 3, would work better for balance. Probably something simpler to reduce likelihood of bugs.

>> No.21185897

>>21184936
>>21185186
Yes. It'll break all kinds of compatibility, and you'll need to double check that everything relying on that number still works.
But, yeah, you can. No real reason you can't have 200000000 inventory slots, per se.

I'd personally recommend having a second set of slots for everything past 200 that are stored in a separate file from normal saves and is just tacked on as extra slots when you load the game. Maybe as a "backpack" inventory. It'll cause the fewest compatibility problems, but you'll not be able to access the extra slots outside of the modded version.

Either way, I'd imagine it'll be a pain to implement.

>> No.21185910

>>21185897
>I'd personally recommend having a second set of slots
Something like that already exists as 4-Dimensional Pocket. But indeed. Save compatibility with other versions is very important.

>> No.21185952

>>21185910

Well, from what I'd heard in the past, the game seem to only have 1 inventory, or something screwy like that, and everything just gets assigned slots from that giant inventory. I've never checked it myself, but if true, it seems like that would be a huge pain to work with.

You could always have the backpack inventory show up in the same area as your normal slots, so it'll be more convenient.

>> No.21187053

Haven't been around for years. Back then being the god slayer was a pretty huge feat. How rare is it now? I'd assume everyone still with the game is really deep into it

>> No.21187213

>>21187053
Someone managed to 1-shot the whole pantheon with a maxed meteor spell.

>> No.21187952

>>21187213
Was it Kai? Is that guy still alive?

>> No.21188093

>>21187952
No, someone else on the discord. Kia left like he said he would, and stayed gone. He did get to the bottom of the void, last I heard.

>> No.21188447

>>21188093
>Like he said he would

Got bored? Or was it just consuming his life too much? Always seemed like a nice guy but he probably sacrificed a lot of real life to play.

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>>21187053
Haven't posted for a while myself. Right before I stopped playing (was still on 1.55), I manged to 1-shot an inner-god with a proximity-assist weapon proc, wielding the Housenka, while using charge action in fury with the omega shift core. Probably the only noteworthy thing I did in my entire playthrough, though ridiculously unnecessary but felt satisfied.

>> No.21188541

>>21188447
He was chased off by an anon, probably the same one who chased off the picture OP. He tried to do a youtube series, but it fell off right around when a certain cursed update was released.

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC10jYTrzVOWeQBul3FPXbog/videos

>> No.21188877

>>21187053
i did one hell of a cheese to get inner kumi weapon,after that pet could 1v1 any as long as she dodged the critical skills like elementia

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>> No.21188959

>>21188093
There's an end to the void? What happens when you get there?

>> No.21189071

>>21188541
How did he get chased off?

>> No.21189218

>>21188959
They stop leveling at 6666. I don't remember if anything else happened.

>>21189071
Someone complained he was always spamming posts and bragging, or something like that. You'd have to check the archives to know the whole story, should be within a few months of when he started his youtube series.

>> No.21190584

>>21189218
That's too bad. I enjoyed reading Kai's posts.

>> No.21190920

>>21188959
In oomsest there's supposedly a third form for Ehekatl guarding a super deep void level.

>> No.21191021

>>21189218
>>21190584
I'm just glad to know what happened. With all the time that guy spent playing I assumed he had a troubled life. Omega NEET of Heaven and Earth type. I was worried he killed himself or something. He was always super friendly so glad it wasn't that. Hope he's doing well.

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>>21190920
No fucking way

>> No.21191040

>>21191021
Yes, Kai was pretty cool. The stories of his characters were entertaining and gave me ideas on how to build my characters.

>> No.21191507

>>21188541
How did he get chased off? it's literally just one guy

>> No.21191517

>>21191507
I'd assume it was probably more than just being chased off, like personal motivation to leave of some sort.
But it is actually possible even one person can harass to a crazy degree. Especially if the person being harassed has a personal account somewhere with private messaging open and the harasser has a bunch of accounts to make it seem like several. It's quite easy to make someone tired of having any internet presence at all; the physical and mental effort required for that are pretty slim.
I don't know though really.

>> No.21192299

Okay, so I did not think ahead at all and went with medium armour from the get go. But since I've started actually using any magic besides 4DP I now see that light armour would give me better casting success.
As is, I can only get up to 92% for anything, which is tolerable but not really nice. While unarmed I can get 97%, but might switch off to battlemage to get 100%.

How hard would it be to train my light armour up to 200 (Where my medium armour is) from 25?
How much defence would I lose switching off? Both right now at 200 and 25, and once they're both 200.

>> No.21192551

>>21141992
The damage calculation means that your highest level spell is your highest damaging spell, and if you were going to waste time power levelling something else, you might as well have used that time to level magic dart even more.

>> No.21192596
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21192596

The kerning is my font's fault. But here's another grammar issue.
>You weight less

>> No.21192642

>only need 16 million music tickets and 5000 small medals for max speed. life and mana
I think that might be too much grinding for me.

>> No.21192895
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>>21192642
You don't need to max everything, anon. I know you're devoted and I respect that but please think of your health

>> No.21192911

>>21192596
>あなたの周りの重力は軽減した。
Instead of just correcting the grammar, I'm going to change the message to the machine translation "The gravity around you has diminished.", since the ether mutation is specifically a gravity field making your possessions feel heavier, not an increase in your own weight.

>> No.21192924

>>21192911
Neat. That's a much better change.

>> No.21193805

>>21192895
Not that anon and I haven't played much Elona yet, but how much grinding is needed for the highest level content? I know you can go crazy with the min/maxing and farm and grind for hundreds of hours to get insanely powerful, but is any of the game's content even close to needing that?

>> No.21193921

>>21192895
>>21193805
I've got to the point that I can kill the Gods in a few turns without taking much damage, the inner Gods are still an issue. Theres no need to do it really, I just want to. Any future content will be a cakewalk for my character.

>> No.21193995

>>21193921
Within how long of playtime, at what levels, being how efficient?
Using stuff like sandbagging, reset loops, or savescumming? Not bashing any of that, of course, just curious for perspective.

>> No.21194240

>>21192299
Each level of the relevant skill is a point in PV when that weight range of armour is worn.
That would be missing out on 175PV immediately, which is kind of a ton. But equal once they're equal level. Though the time spent getting 200 light could be used to get more medium.
Platinum costs should still be quite low for the skill, while jobs should give more by that point, so training the initial 100 or so should be quite a bit faster than at first.

Really depends on just how much you need that extra 8% casting chance, or how little you value your time at. Not a big deal either way.

>> No.21194594

There are several variants that reduce the grind as well.

>> No.21194950

>>21193995
170 hours, 700 ish martial arts, tactics and eye of mind and I followed Kai's guide on martial arts gear for max extra attack chance. I started using the sandbag when I hit around level 500 in melee stats though, its a bitch to level up.
The two things that helped most was not needing money due to cooking fish caught from <super lure> and selling it in my shop and using meteor in the void from the many many wonder scrolls after I upgraded virtually every shop in the game, that builds up AP and levels very quick, I remembered to start with a lower INI this time around, I'm probably going to swap to training ice ball instead and save the meteor spell uses for instantly clearing the panic quests for the platinum.
Leold's quest to kill monsters of a certain level or higher for music tickets helps a bunch for getting magic fruit and hero cheese. Also herb farms, I'm an idiot because I didn't realise you could bless half your curarias and use two curarias for herb infusion. Make a wall around a hungry demon and yourself in the puppy cave, equip the fetter of earth from Opatos and eat as many as you can.
The 20% increase speed feat for having no pets with you becomes very good late game, I get + 270 speed from it at the moment.

I've tried to be as efficient as possible, there are a lot of tips that aren't written down all in one place spread out all over the reddit and in people heads on here, someone should write them all down in one place and put it in the pastebin to be honest.

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>>21114457
Can you transfer your save file to the newest version or does it cause bugs? If it does than are you supposed to keep playing on the version you started?

>> No.21195296

>>21195280
you can update no problem.

>> No.21195342

>>21195296
Thanks.

>> No.21195565

What gun should i use generally? shotguns,machineguns or lasers?

>> No.21195624

Any character spritesheet for Omake?

>> No.21196172

>>21195280
There should be no issues. My current save is from like three years ago and it's still working fine. I just back it up regularly just in case.

>> No.21196632

>>21193805
Vanilla is actually really short if you just do the main quest, insanely short actually. The plus content has gotten longer and longer, still sub-100 hours though I haven't played in a few patches. Taking out the Inner Gods is going to take multiple hundreds of hours. My first God Slayer was something like 450 hours.
All this is assuming moderate knowledge of the game but not max efficiency play.

>> No.21196634

>>21196172
Personally I not only back it up frequently, through an AHK script which also resizes the screen to be borderless, but also always install the new version separately in parallel rather than updating the current.
That way I still definitely have a working version with my working settings, working changes, and working save. No matter what the new one may break. Though Elona rarely breaks saves if ever, other programs do.
And comparing the new default assets to see if anything has changed before merging my changes over ensures those don't cause any issue.

>> No.21196665

>>21195624
I believe any vanilla Elona pack should work with Omake (pretty much every non-vanilla NPC/item is stored in external files). Try this one.
https://mega.nz/#!8QURlCaD!z615w8cGMkkKYbPO-qCnVixSTcvIKccNU6uCR5-_OMs

>> No.21196939

>>21194950
>>21196632
So about 150-500 hours, depending on efficiency and knowledge. Reasonably 600 hours without any foreknowledge? For god slaying specifically. While everything else takes far less, <100 hours.
Nifty.

What are the strongest E+ bosses now?
I know some of the basic mobs reach levels of like 150 base, and can also scale well past that due to awakening, giving gameplay to level for all the way to the cap. But not the actual level or difficulty of the hardest bosses.

>> No.21197139

>>21195565
Lasers are overall the best since they have full damage and accuracy against anything within 7 spaces. Machine guns aren't bad either. Pistols and shotguns rapidly lose damage and accuracy against anything more than a few tiles away. A weapon's damage and accuracy become less and less important as your stats grow higher, but the ranged modifier will always be a big deal.

In Omake variants it's a more complicated question since ranged accuracy and damage are decoupled and you can equip guns to melee slots. Lasers are still solid, but if you're dual wielding then pistols are very appealing, as are shotguns if you can deal with their low accuracy.

There's a list of all ranged modifiers here:
https://elona.fandom.com/wiki/Ranged_Weapons

>> No.21197144

>>21196939
>What are the strongest E+ bosses now?
The inner gods should still be the strongest unscaled enemies. Any enemy can max out every stat once you get deep enough into the void.

>> No.21197159

>>21197139
>and you can equip guns to melee slots [...] if you're dual wielding
Whoa. That sounds fuckawesome. Yet another feature Omake variants have that would be useful and entertaining.
I really want to dual wield guns, and crossbows if possible.
It can certainly wait till I get into Omake variants after getting bored of +CG. But man this feels kind of like envy, even if I can opt to play it now.

>> No.21197471

>>21196665
alright many thanks anon!

>> No.21197530

>In patches after the addition of the Artifact fusion system, when attempting to equip the weapon [Sacrifice Tonfa], you will get the message It's too unfair to equip. This seems to be linked to a certain amount of damage or hit bonus allowed per item, unrelated to the skills or other attributes added to the item.
Is this still the case in modern Plus or Custom?
Does -G or GFU undo it if so?
Do the changes to living weapons in GFU run into this problem?

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We all know kumi is the best god advantage wise,but who is the WORST one?

>> No.21197671

>>21197652
Eyth counts, right? Otherwise I'm sure there's probably a custom Omake god that gives actual random Xom-esque punishments.

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If someone has made gods/inner gods their pets,can they still use their respective special actions?

>> No.21197821

>>21197530
This is patched out in GFU. If you don't like the other changes though it's very easy to edit out of the source. I think he's adding tweaks soon too anyway.

>> No.21197834

>>21197821
Neat.

He said tweaks aren't soon, just something to do eventually if enough people do care.
Seems what he wants to do right now is make living armour of some sort.

>> No.21197859

>>21197834
Where did you get that he wanted to make living armors? That would be amazing.

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>>21197859
https://elona.fandom.com/wiki/Thread:30363
Exciting things are exciting.

>> No.21197941

>>21197530
>It's too unfair to equip
I'd forgotten about that. It's absurd for an item available in-game to be blocked by what was presumably some sort of anti-save editor check. It'll be removed with the next Custom-G release.
...Actually, considering that E+ 1.89 is taking a while and minor fixes have been piling up, I think I'll look into that "pet arena disables Onslaught" bug, and if I can fix it I'll release E+C-G 1.88R.2.2.

>> No.21197981

>>21197941
You're a cool person and I like what you do. Thanks.

>> No.21197989

>>21196939
Taking less than 150 hours for Inner Gods means you've killed them before, you know exactly what you're doing, and you're just going maximum efficiency rather than fun.

>> No.21198015

>>21197989
Hence that being the bare minimum of the range as less than 150 isn't to be expected.

>rather than fun
Such things are not inherently unfun. Personally I consider maximum efficiency to actually be fun. Very much so.
Hyper optimizing and taking the quickest paths in the quickest way is fucking great.
It's just tiring and difficult to do in most games, and definitely too hard for a first run, so it's something to limit to replays of games I genuinely love and am NOT bored of or frustrated with.
Like, that gameplay serves a similar purpose to GFU, by providing a way to play that is interesting. But through challenge rather than overpowering restriction removal.

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I've been away for a while, last news I remember is watersports being added (I'm on 1.77). What has changed since that? Have this kitty in advance as my thanks.

>> No.21198026

>>21198021
The changelog isn't too long, it's a neat read as always.
https://elona.fandom.com/wiki/Changelog_(Elona%2B)
There's also a mod that removes thirst and watersports, Custom-G. That mod does a lot more than just that, most of which can be found in its own changelog.

>> No.21198039
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21198039

>1.87 has four Directive Modes: the main three of Onslaught/Defense/Intercept, and Temporary, a fourth mode that handles pet arena stuff
>1.88 has four Directive Modes: Onslaught, Defense, Intercept, and Talking
>the pet arena mysteriously stops working properly

>> No.21198133

>>21197834
I'm just going to do the tweaks today. Living armor is very involved... Still doable... But involved.

Expect tweaks late this evening.

>> No.21198276

>>21198039
I'm thinking he was like,

Alright where do I put this? Oh, hey, a temporary variable! Let's re-purpose that!


.....wait. That was needed for something? Oops.

>> No.21198293

Alright, Custom-G 1.88R.2.2 is out. The Pet Arena bug should be fixed, and various messages and bits of dialogue have been improved. (All those typos that were reported here have been fixed.)
Also, Fist of the North Star mode has been added. I want to add it for some time now, and originally planned to release a new version with it on April Fools' Day, but didn't make it in time. It has no effect on gameplay, and is just for fun.

>> No.21198489

>>21197989
Normal gods, not inner gods and I am having fun.

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