Daily Japanese Thread DJT #2141

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Previous Thread:
>>21104592

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Actual thread number is 2142

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>>21110251
2143

Stop baking so quickly! I wanted to get one in.

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now it's ruined and the next thread will be 2142 instead of 2143

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>>21110258
>>21110262
I tried to delete this thread but it isn't allowed, which is such a stupid fucking restriction.

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who cares about the thread number why do we even need one

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what a poop ass thread

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It's okay, it'll just edit the thread number before printing it out and filing it with the rest of my collection.

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i personally print these threads out on a roll of 2 ply and wipe my shitty ass hole with yalls posts

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>>21110283
スカートを脱ぐだけで、彼のズボンはもう我慢汁でビショビショだった

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>when you know both the kanji in 最近
revelation!

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you can infer the "meanings" of kanji like that just by looking at a few different words, like 最後,最高,最初, etc. so i wish i hadn't done rtk.

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>>21110286
whats ur issue

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As promised, here's the cool thing I was going to post about in the next thread.

https://github.com/scriptin/topokanji

The basic idea seems to be to do something like Heisig, except explicitly incorporate character frequency. Done formally, it means doing a weighted topological sort over the Kanji and their components.

There are a couple of different sources for frequency data which, of course, influence exactly which characters come up when, but it's clear from all of them that the first ~500 characters are all much more common and useful than the first 500 from Heisig's RTK. This concretely disproves the oft-touted idea that the "learn in component order" is fundamentally incompatible with getting any kind of practical pay-offs early on.

Let's compare the first 100 via a few approaches.

Heisig:
一二三四五六七八九十口日月田目古吾冒朋明唱晶品呂昌早旭世胃旦胆亘凹凸旧自白百中千舌升昇丸寸肘専博占上下卓朝嘲只貝唄貞員貼見児元頁頑凡負万句肌旬勺的首乙乱直具真工左右有賄貢項刀刃切召昭則副別丁町可頂子孔

Using KanjiVG All: (some radicals are mixed in)
一丨口日十干年人大亅丁竹笑二丿冂月八木本凵山出土丶寸寺時中彳行目儿見今刀分厶云会卜上彐尹事王玉囗国了子巾亠市門間生冖学刂前乙乂气気東耂者扌手自未来也地合方小県田高心思又幺夂後言立阝部勹勿場同斤新入衣艮

From the Aozora list of fiction and non-fiction: (again, some radicals mixed in)
人一丨口日目儿見凵山出十八木未丶来大亅了子心土冂田思二丁彳行寸寺時卜上丿刀分厶禾私中彐尹事可亻何自乂又皮彼亠方生月門間扌手言女本乙气気干年三耂者刂前勹勿豕冖宀家今下白勺的云牛物立小文矢知入乍作聿書学合

It should be clear that, even with the overhead of explicitly including radical "characters" (which aren't real kanji), the beginnings of these topologically-sorted Kanji orderings contain many more characters which are useful for basic comprehension, while still maintaining the "only learn based on components you already know" principle.

The next step would be to add these numberings to RTK decks as an alternate sort are (along with dummy cards for the radicals which of course won't need keywords unless you want to expressly add them), and try it out. I expect the "Aozora" list would be the most useful, and it's the one recommended by the owners of the repository.

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>>21110304
trust me if your goal is to learn all the joyo kanji the rtk method is more than good enough, in fact it is pretty much perfect. The problem with rtk is that people don't want to dedicate 3 months of their life to learn kanji and they want to achieve results right away. these kind of people will never make it anyway.

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>>21110343
Of course. But it's nice to see that by applying the ideas more rigorously it's possible to come up with orderings which have a much more sound basis. Potentially, being able to prioritise more frequent Kanji in this way may be able to prevent some fraction of dekinais from giving up due to not feeling like their work is translating into results.

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>>21110302
Wew, this makes Heisig look like a shitshow. I think that's why people feel good about mining from scratch, because sampling content yourself approximates a frequentist approach.

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>>21110355
very true, rtk is like if you haven't finished it completely you barely get any results. especially at the beginning.

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>>21110360
wrong reply >>21110304
awwi

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cant believe u fuckin pinged me for that

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>>21110371
謝罪しました

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>>21110364
this being said, I think wanikani does this effectively. It caters to the dekinais quite well making it into a game as well as showing you words with the kanji you learned right away.

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taro ninja is a fuckin god

none of us will ever be this cool

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https://soundcloud.com/666taroninja666/bang-prod-y-polo

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and with that u may post bangers again the embargo is over

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>>21110247
https://discord.gg/2q4G6cY

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>>21110397
not sure i can bang right cuz pussy is stuck in my head
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hjrlX-Y6Gs8

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>>21110401
i guess its time to start doin it for free again

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VqV0wZB_Ysc

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>>21110304
The latter two throw way too much stuff at you way too fast. You're drawing entirely new shapes every other character. This is going to crush any beginner, not improve their work efficiency.
Why care about getting useful kanji right away anyway? If you have more time in the day, go do more RTK. There's basically no limit to how many mnemonics your brain can make in a day so just get it over with.

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Help a beginner retard.

Minna de iroirona tokoro de asobimashita.

Everyone had different kind of fun at some place? How does tokoro de work here?

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>the virgin daily Japanese thread
>the chad daily Chinese thread

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>>21110456
>This is going to crush any beginner, not improve their work efficiency.
Obviously I'm inclined to say that if someone is going to seriously struggle like that right at the start, then they're likely to not be able to ever make much progress period. But that's just my opinion. However, there might be something to be said for doing the topological sort again, this time not using the "character frequency" as the weight, but instead something like "usefulness as a component" - basically try to optimise for how much "mileage" you'll get out of each component before having to learn another to make more characters. I wonder how best to quantify that, and whether it'd be worth submitting upstream to the developers of that tool?
>Why care about getting useful kanji right away anyway?
Being able to actually see the characters you've learned when glancing at native material will, for many learners, provide a huge boost in motivation.

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>>21110456
That's a specious criticism. It may be easier to remember different shapes that mean different things versus trying to remember the different meanings of 唱晶品呂昌. I said "may be" because I don't have any more evidence than you do.

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>>21110465
いろいろな modifies the ところ
second で tells you that the ところ is where something was done
the verb tells you what was done

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>>21110465
minna de [iroirona tokoro] de asobimashita
with the squad at various tokoros i asobud

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>>21110466
>checks /int/ catalog
黒人, make it

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u cant have daily chinese thread while karbins dead that would be disrespectful

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>>21110259
think that's bad? see dies irae: 「だから嫌がってるとか、そういうのとは違くて、どっちかというと、嬉しくなかったりしないこともないなんて思わないこともなかったりするような気がしないでもないんだけど」

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>>21110480
You've clearly not used a mnemonic in your life, please don't talk about things you have zero experience with.
The shapes are entirely irrelevant. You learn by component and the components are always unique. The first lessons are extremely easy, everyone will tell you this. It's the later lessons where the book has run out of easy components and is forced to give you a new rare one every few characters that are a slog. Mnemonics work well for arranging things, they don't work particularly well for something like 隹.

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>>21110616
How does this relate to the point >>21110480 made, or support your original point in >>21110456 which questioned how worthwhile it was to re-jig the order to account for frequency too?

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>>21110582
it's not like i dont feel a bit like im happy

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PewDiePie is in nippon right now. Subscribe to PewDiePie.

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not teh pewds anything but the pewds

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>凸 means convex
>the kanji isn't actually a convex shape

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ur head is a convex shape

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>>21110671
>鬱 means 'depression'
>isnt even a picture of a noose around my neck

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>>21110639
Learning 唱晶品呂昌 means learning five stories. It's quick, it's easy and there's really no way for you to mess things up. Learning 勿气艮衣也 is far harder, because even though they look quite different you have to learn every stroke from scratch. For the first set you just need 口日 and you're good.

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>>21110717
At the end of the day, without getting a few people to actually run through the different orders, and note how quickly they're able to reach the end comfortably along with a % demotivation-drop rate, we can't be very concrete.

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>>21110640
you'd make a big name in the translation scene

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doesnt mean shit but my anecdotal experience with rtk says its easier to differentiate a new kanji from one youve got down well than to differentiate two new similar kanji at the same time
that being said i endorse learning nihongo before you bother with that shit

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>>21110516
>the 矮丑穷 /djt/
>the 高富帅 /dct/
>>>/int/103768560

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>>21110582
this is more 優しい気がしないわけもない

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>>21110304
Trying to fix RTK is like trying to polish a turd. The whole approach of affixing oversimplified English keywords to kanji in the first place is just a bad idea that will inevitably come and bite you in the ass later down the line.

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>>21110717
呂 is a pictograph and has more in common with the 2nd group

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>>21110783
its just a big waste of time nothing more nothing less

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>>21110783
Technically, you don't affix keywords to kanji, you affix kanji to keywords. You aren't supposed to treat the keyword as a hard-and-fast reading when seeing the kanji. The end goal is to have all the kanji in your head with approximate meanings, and properly distinct from each other in ways which prevent misrecognition. Ideally you'd eventually make Japanese keywords which do a better job of each meaning proper. Mental dictionary, is the bottom line.

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I just noticed I will probably become fluent before rap guy will post a single good rap video

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>>21110783
You know that Japanese people did the same, right? Please explain how crippled their Nihongo is because they think 水 means みず instead of すい.

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>>21110830
do u need somethin more mainstream to like it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jDXReZXvEyo

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>>21110830
That's a pretty trivial thing to say considering that not a single good rap video exists.

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>>21110852
now u did it time for the big guns https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BsAQWlVWb8w

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>>21110852
I don't know but are you sure you looked hard enough?

>>21110847
mainstream =/= good

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>>21110783
it has never backfired on anyone

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>>21110825
>Technically, you don't affix keywords to kanji, you affix kanji to keywords.

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>>21110783
RTK is largely a waste of time and I wish I hadn't done it, but nothing about it comes back to bite you in the ass. Only someone who didn't do RTK would say something that retarded.

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>>21109394
>If Japanese the Manga Way is actually awesome why hasn't anyone extracted its text to the guide like they have for DoJG.
because its major strong point is the panels that it breaks down, the context it describes the grammar and vocab in. if only the text was extracted it wouldn't make sense/be as useful and i guess no one can be bothered to extract the 400+ corresponding manga panels

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>>21110866
Well seems my post >>21110830 backfired pretty quickly and currently bites me in the ass.

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>>21110840
Except みず is a Japanese word and a valid reading for the character, whereas ｗａｔｅｒ is not.

>>21110876
Yep, nobody ever complains about mixing up similar keywords and getting themselves all confused. No, never.
Oh wait, they do!

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>>21110247
I do not think I am going to make it.

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>>21110918
less than 1% ever make it you know

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[English verb]+ suru usage:
自分の部屋をCLEANしています
日本語をSTUDYしています
Anything wrong here?

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>>21110916
>Yep, nobody ever complains about mixing up similar keywords and getting themselves all confused. No, never.
this is a problem that occurs only during reviewing and doesn't have anything to do with your ability to read japanese

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>>21110916
You know that these are Chinese characters, right? They have nothing to do with Japanese.

Two Chinese scholars a thousand years ago set sail.
One of them reaches Japan and points at 水 and then at a cup of water and the sea behind him. His Japanese trading partner goes "なるほど, みず"
The other reaches England. He points at 水 and then at a cup of water and the sea behind him. His English trading partner goes "Ah, water".
Why is the Japanese man correct and the Englishman wrong?

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https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLwGjqS2iLnwUNGQWSKSjfCUdpWvm0TiAs

woah n1 can be mastered in a day?

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minna genki ? lol

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have another 魂音泉 for the road https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e4a3-l4osWk
make sure to read ur eroge and bang often

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>>21110948
how come this is the first time I see this in 2019?

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>>21110895
>>21110825
>>21110783
theres no reason at all to do RTK when you could just start reading and learning words first, do the radical deck, and then if you want to be able to write and never confuse similar kanji and their readings again, do a kanji deck that has you produce the written kanji from keyword AND readings on the front. and ofc change the english keywords to ones that seem more suitable based on words you already know, or even to japanese words. you'd rarely even need stories at that point, because the images of each kanji will already be in your head vaguely and knowledge of the radicals will just make it clearer.
kanji should not be frontloaded with RTK. it just doesn't make sense to learn them with absolutely no context like that. and most people who do it without learning actual japanese first end up over-valuing those shitty keywords.
like this guy i know whos doing rtk (doesn't read, can only speak at a very beginner, survival phrase level) showed me 遂 and tried to quiz me on what it meant. i said "well it can mean finally" because i knew it as ついに and he was like NOPE it's "consummate" and i was like -_-

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u gotta say it when the time is right

for example when militant flashtard is in here u cant exactly just pop in and be like hey all minna genki ? lol it doesnt work

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have u tried a kagami

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doesnt bang as hard as https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JBy9NJnmESc&t=120 though

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>>21111120
>that one meaning is completely abstract
汎

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goddamn the spring anime look fucking awful this year. bungou stray dogs is the best thing coming out lol

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>>21111133
I already played that album out, was pretty based though

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>>21111163
ur asking for a syllabus no1 has brainiac

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i wanna go back and rewatch some stuff i watched a month ago to see how i progressed but im scared that it'll be the same level of difficulty

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if u wanna do it then do it or ur a pussy

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>>21110247
discord.gg/2q4G6cY

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if he wnats 2 do it he should do it tho

thats the #1 guiding principle to anything in this world where apathy reigns supreme

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write all of ur posts in both eigo and nihongo and i will recognize u as real deal material

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>>21111267
no
の

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>>21111299
you can't

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>>21111297
In theory you can do everything just right, get to 10k vocab, immerse enough, etc. in a year and be considered low level fluent. But that sort of dedication is rare and tough to pull off.

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define fluent for me cause it means something else to everyone seemingly

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is this before or after 10000 hours of eng subbed anime

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>>21111382
I'm low intermediate I consumed less media for a while to learn more words, grammar, etc. then went back to watching a lot of media and yea it's a rush. When you can rewatch shows or watch new shows and understand more each time. It's like opening another world and it's what will decide if you keep going I think.

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>>21111382
if ur not compelled enough to accidentally spend 6+ hours in somethin some days u either need to find somethin better to read or watch or u need to drop nihongo cuz its not for u
u really should be findin content thats enjoyable even when u suck and read slow real early
i dont know nihongo but how much time i spend doesnt really change i just read faster and understand more lines of anime

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>>21110259
fug nod again :DDD

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>>21110970
https://discord.gg/fkcMMn

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Kinda embarressed to ask but...

anyone tried any "learn while sleeping" audio stuff? Is there any indication it helps even slightly?

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>>21111491
I heard you become fluent in less than a year. However this only works using an RTK audio book.

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>read sentence
>understand everything
>hear that same sentence spoken
>hear all words
>can't process it quickly enough to understand the sentence
FUCK this language

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if you meditate for an hour a day for 6 months before learning japanese, fluency in a year is more than doable.

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>>21110866
what the fuck, why do you always link bad music when you know good stuff like this

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>>21111491
I tried a bunch of them and they didn't do anything. The best thing is to play anime you know while you sleep. You get anime dreams and when I was up I lay in bed just listening for a while and it's a good way to super get some super focused listening in.

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>>21111437
i told u

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>>21111349
can u comfortably go monolingual? grats ur fluent

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i want to fuck a japanese girl in the ass

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I'm not going to make my 1 year goal, probably more like 18 months till technically fluent level achieved but I'm having a lot of fun and still very dedicated after 9 months. I'm doing about 10 hours a day on average of immersion + study.

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>>21111618
approach it from the opposite perspective and you'll see why i want it

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>>21111525
i mean u gotta learn to appreciate the bose but most of the rest is ntr and he hates nerds
also 魂音泉 is basically all i know in the rap game
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=auoBXLd061Y

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I miss the "this language is impossible and stupid" rants.

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actually just simple and easy

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>>21111719
lore that develops in generals is half the fun of posting in them

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>>21111491
impossible to know for sure if it helps but its been giving me bizarre dreams and nightmares

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3VL8VnTJ0JA
these are good videos for beginners

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>>21111688
more like how can u call this a language

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>>21111749
building sentences is worthless. start reading

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>>21111790
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pSvH9vH60Ig&list=PLg9uYxuZf8x_A-vcqqyOFZu06WlhnypWj

watch this and be enlightened

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shut up flashtard

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HOW TO ACHIEVE NATIVE+++ LEVEL OF FLUENCY
1. spend a week learning 250 fish names
2. challenge quizfag and win
3. congratulations you are now officially the best at nihongo in the world

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O9ufP3Kn4Uk

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you may be retarded in some way dude

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3 years here. I still don't understand the negation behind sika.

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>>21111858
Yeah probably I'm overthinking it and it is really only a problem if I don't understand other words in a sentence. So with my example I would mostly assume that somebody bought something, rather than owns an unknown animal. But it kinda sucks, because I would expect verbs to fill out the gaps and not add to the confusion.

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かえるを投稿するから、削除した
かえるのどこがだめですか

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heh

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>>21111922
>>21111941
Nvm your time is like half of mine, was it always like that or did it get easier after a while?

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>>21111930

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Stop. I won't learn chinese. Not yet

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>>21112048
Can you read the 万葉集? If not, then fuck off. You've got no right to an opinion if you can't tell Chinese apart from Japanese.

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chinese japanese dirty knees look at these

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>>21112103
naisu

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>>21111963
You were talking about 帰る、変える、and 蛙, respectively.

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>>21112076
>unable to tell japanese from chinese
imagine being a total 精日 and thinking anyone who knows muscular, elite Chinese could confuse the virgin 和語 for it

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>>21112122
>muscular, elite Chinese
There's nothing "elite" about something spoken by one in every 6 people on Earth. 普通話 is a language for whores, greedy merchants, and heart-sullen dictators.

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fuck off chinks

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>>21112136
*nankings u*
heh, nothing personnel 支那畜

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>>21110259
ww
>>21111430
www

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Or you could just study for a year and a half and be more fluent than you would be if you only studied for one year after wasting 6 months lmao

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>being this desperate to get btfo

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>>21112253
I've got two questions for you:
1. How long did it take you to master the five tone system?
2. How many 漢字 do you go through per week?

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>>21111922
What do your decks actually consist of?

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>>21112350
big sound voice

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I came upon this statement グローブマッチに慣れている分、素拳のオバーハンドには対処しにくい and I can't figure out how 分 is being used in this.

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Im looking for a better quality version of A dictionary of Japanese grammar (specially Intermediate and Advanced).
A better version than that of the itazuraneko page... something like the scans used on the adojg deck. (unfortunately this deck only has the 'notes' section of the book)

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私は向こうからゲイじゃないになります

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>>21112581
probably the same reason that daughter is 女兒 while son is 兒子

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=31d0b_swAAk
get red pilled on some HeibanVsOdaka

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cure dolly is a useless fucking freak abomination

[Anonymous No.]

imagine coming up with a phrase to express the concept of the perfect woman, and it's not even written in your native writing system

[Anonymous No.]

so you're telling me I should probably watch space dandy?

[Anonymous No.]

im still butt sore over space dandy existing and frankly i hadnt been that butt sore since samurai champloo happened

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fucking weebs get out this is a thread for study of the japanese language, not your childrens cartoons

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word of the day
齟齬
そご
inconsistency, discord

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>>21112853
kill yourself trash

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>>21112609
yea

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>>21112213
dude i sucked the first time you challenged me and i suck now

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>>21112350
big sound voice

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苦しい女の子についてどうするか

[Anonymous No.]

why even bother learning the language tbvqh

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>>21113050
Alright thanks I'll try. But man, everyone cries about kanji but when you start learning it becomes really fucking clear that grammar is the last boss.

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>>21113091
W-who's the secret boss?

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You ever just hit the fuckin "my mixes" button and surrender to the algorithm? Sometimes find some good shit in there.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nd_uxTGzsPw

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>>21113134
Not so bad. Let's try to escalate.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Je2IrHp8bg8

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>>21112231
That's pretty bad but lemme tell you my blight in Jap101 3 years ago.

>Some girl who had absolute beginner knowledge of Chinese kept calling out saying "OH THIS IS LIKE CHINESE WHICH I KNOW GUYS" every god damn day
>Two loud girl who was BEST BUDS were complaining about the katakana test at mid-term and panicking all the same
>Stripper-looking girl kept wearing the TIGHTEST sweatpants to class every day and would get up and literally stand on her chair whenever called on so she could show off her ass
>Fucking GIANT motherfucker kept spoiling Breath of the Wild every day

The only redeeming quality was the teacher who would absolutely shit on every single person.
>Well this is JAPANESE class.
>Katakana is easy what the fuck
>My wife is hotter
>BotW is NOT an OoT sequel you dense behemoth
>At least you guys aren't like my last semester with that kid who just liked Goku

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>>21113163
I've only ever really had normal people in the college Japanese classes I've taken... I assume this means that I'm the weirdo everyone else posts about on 4chan

High school on the other hand, holy shit. There were these fujoshi girls who would literally draw their favorite BL characters making out on the whiteboard during breaks and run around screaming "YAOI!" I don't know how my teacher didn't hang himself

[Anonymous No.]

>>21113270
The Great Learning, by far, is the hardest reading I’ve done.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21113270
France Shoujo. Dropped it after a day.
I might pick it up again, it was mostly hard because of vocab.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21113270
i didn't finish it but hanachirasu stands out as the hardest thing i've tried to read so far

[Anonymous No.]

So I'm learning the alphabet right now. Is that all I need to focus on or should I be some other things on the side?

[Anonymous No.]

>>21113419
read the guide weeb

[Anonymous No.]

>>21113422
>>21113423
I did read the guide but the beginning activities that it recommended also said that it requires me to learn hirigana and katakana before approaching yotsubato.
Also, stop bullying me, I'm not a weeb, I'm just interested in learning a language and since I already read manga sometimes I thought it would be cool to learn, weeb.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21113438
Shut the frick up, weeb. Sorry. I don't know where I got the idea that it was the alphabet.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21113432
>guide says i have to do this
>dahhhh what else should i do even though the guide told me already

[Anonymous No.]

>>21113439
Jesus I need to catch up on that. I don't think I've read since the class trip arc.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21113450
Are you fucking retarded, you dumb fuck? Sorry I'm not braindead enough to take a guide word for word and not critically think on my own.
You're acting like I asked the question annoyingly, when I was just curious if anyone thought I should put effort into learning other things while I'm doing it.

I'm sure your miserable ass will find anything negative in what I say regardless of how I phrased it. Off yourself faggot.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21113464
You described two distinct syllabaries (that lack the letters "A" and "B") as "the alphabet" mate, I don't think you're in any position to call other people retarded.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21113477
stick to videos like that they're more your speed

[Anonymous No.]

>>21113476
>Not wanting to type the words 'hirigana' and 'katakana' because I'm not familiar enough with them to type them effortlessly so I just replace it with a simple and easily understandable word, being the 'alphabet' gets me attacked by pointlessly dense weebs
What should I have expected. Of course you faggots will make an argument out of anything. You're on 4chan for christs sake. What was I thinking asking you retards for anything.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21113477
>Did you read the comment below this one
Read it? I fucking posted it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21113484
>Not wanting to type the words 'hirigana' and 'katakana' because I'm not familiar enough with them to type them effortlessly
HOLY FUCK how the fuck casual are you? Kana is what people say. If you can't remember four fucking letters you have no hope of learning a new writing system.

Just give up now.

[Anonymous No.]

全員様、冷静に

[Anonymous No.]

>>21113488
I won't take away your only means of feeling superior. Insulting a beginner on not knowing words of something he learned about not even a day ago. Grow the fuck up.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21113493
you shouldn't even be posting in /djt/ talking about being interested in the language if you're one day new to this shit

[Anonymous No.]

>>21113488
Christ, dude. You'rea really sad, miserable person. Arguing over such a pointless thing that is understandable for a beginner.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21113491
看不懂，精日同志。

[Anonymous No.]

>>21113493
>>21113505
samefag phoneposter detected

[Anonymous No.]

>>21113501
I've been studying it for a week or two. I meant I learned the word not a day ago. Mostly because I was focused on practicing the material. I turn off my internet a lot so I save or take pictures to keep stuff I need. The images I saved were just the hirigana themselves. So I had no way of knowing until I hopped back online to do research.
That said, I 100% have interest in learning the language and I'm familiar with how hard I'll have to work to learn it. I've been eager to learn for the past few weeks and it's actually pretty fun, so there's no problem there.
>>21113512
>>21113493
What? This is my reply, dumbass.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21113432
>I'm not a weeb, I'm just interested in learning a language
not gonna make it

[Anonymous No.]

>>21113527
You sound completely insane. Ahahaha. I don't mean to insult you -- this is really entertaining. This is like the flat earthers -- no one really thinks the earth is flat, it's just trolling. No one really thinks they can just learn some new characters and start reading a new language.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21113556
yeah nothing displayed "hirigana" because it's not called hirigana it's hiragana


go learn a useful language faggot nobody is going to help you here

[Anonymous No.]

>>21113549
You literally can't read. I explained this in the post you replied to. I downloaded an image that displayed the hirigana. It didn't have hirigana displayed on it.

>>21113559
What the fuck is wrong with you?

[Anonymous No.]

think he'll make it??



PAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA

[Anonymous No.]

He will. There's no denying it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21113565
Why would I get help from dumbasses lurking who can't even speak the language? Are you joking? This is exactly like /ic/ but for retarded weebfaggots.

The same type of garbage cunts on /ic/ didn't stop me from learning to draw, so why would I let you, a person who probably knows nothing, or maybe you do, that's irrelevant to me, stop me from learning this? I'm pretty invested in learning and I understand how much effort and mindpower it takes to learn. I'm prepared for that, as I've learned many other things that take lots of time and practice.

I never said it was easy like the dumbass above assumed. I just said that I'm interested in learning. Maybe I'll quit in a month or so. Who gives a shit? All I know is that I've been studying extensively up until now and I'm enjoying the process. I'm pretty certain that I'll continue this for a very long time for as long as possible.

>>21113586
I mean I never said that but if it makes you feel better about yourself. It's pathetic that you think this is some competition. I'm doing this because I enjoy it. Not because I want to impress some fags on 4chan who will never be apart of my life to even see my progress.
I'm not new to learning hard shit. I'm not a weeb who up and decided to learn a language without knowing any discipline. I draw, animate, meditate, exercise, make music and play piano.

I'm not new to anything that requires discpline. So kiss my ass you elitist cunt.

[Anonymous No.]

Can you please adopt a tripcode so I can filter you?

[Anonymous No.]

>>21113605
I mean I can if you want, because I know how it feels from your side of this. I'm not a fag so I don't know how to tripcode. Explain it to me.

[BootyCheek-Sama No.]

Actually I'll just use a name. Is that good enough for you, mate?

[Anonymous No.]

>>21113598
尾を引くポスト. Btw what are your ambitions/goals that have motivated you to pick this language?

[Anonymous No.]

>>21113598
>I'M inVeStEd AfTeR A wEeKkKk!

are you on medication for your bipolar? because you should be. this is a manic phase. fucking loonie

[BootyCheek-Sama No.]

わたしはゲイ

[Anonymous No.]

>I ... meditate
oh god not this again

[BootyCheek-Sama No.]

>>21113624
I actually read a bit of manga so that's one reason. I draw too, and the ability to read and open myself up to an entire different language-worth of art resources is interesting to me, which also bleeds into the fact that I'll have an entirely new world of the internet to explore. There's more but they're on the tip of my tongue.

>>21113625
I was invested in art after a day. 4 years later, guess what? What's your point?

[BootyCheek-Sama No.]

>>21113639
I've been lurking and I don't think it's the same meditation you're thinking of. I just focus on my breath. Maybe they're the same. I only skimmed a few conversations about it but it seems like something entirely different.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21113643
Be prepared to put in hundreds of hours into your studies in order to get good. This is the hardest language you could've chosen as an english speaker. Good luck.

[Anonymous No.]

u should try learnin to take some shit to ur face without throwin a fit lol u got some issues but gambare

[Anonymous No.]

>>21113661
>This is the hardest language you could've chosen as an english speaker. Good luck.
LOL

[BootyCheek-Sama No.]

>>21113661
Exactly. That's what makes it fun. I made the same investment in art and I haven't regretted it. I appreciate it. Even if I fail it's worth a try. Thanks man. Pretty sure no one cares but maybe I could update a few months in so people who thought I would fail can laugh at my failure.
>>21113625
Do you want to make a bet on whether I'll quit soon or not?

[Anonymous No.]

>>21113679
>gambare
>m

[Anonymous No.]

someone aint been gambatteite his best itu demo ii yo

[Anonymous No.]

is there anyone here who doesn't do anki and actually has a 30k or more vocabulary
everyone here shits on anki but nobody here seems to know nearly as many words as the guy who makes those special cards

[Anonymous No.]

How many years of Japanese do I have to study to unlock Japanese Siri's secrets?

[Anonymous No.]

no one here who does anki has a 30k vocab either dont let the anime cards fool u

[Anonymous No.]

Anki isn't for life... there must be senpai who got good and retired it completely.

[BootyCheek-Sama No.]

Does learning japanese make you not quote the person you're replying to?

[Anonymous No.]

If you have 30k vocabulary, then you literally have no reason to be here anymore. By that point, you'll know the majority of the words in the average sentence and be able to deduce from context and Kanji the meanings of the ones you don't. And if you can't, then you're a bigger brainlet than I am and I'm a fucking retard.

By the way, whether you know 1 word or 100,000, you have no reason to be here.

[Anonymous No.]

replies make who ur talkin to clearer
if its already clear why everyone gotta get upset about not gettin a (you)

[BootyCheek-Sama No.]

Fair enough. It's slow enough to make sense. Was just wondering.

[Anonymous No.]

so 見る

見ます

見たい. how that different than みたい why they gonna go and make them the same like that. how wantin to see somethin gon make it be "lookin like" somethin else?

[Anonymous No.]

>>21113754
that shit almost always comes after a て form and written with kana so it's not like it's easy to mix them up.

[Anonymous No.]

emo bangers ga hituyo
ima jisatu jikan da

[Anonymous No.]

atashi wa hirigana ga shitteru

[Anonymous No.]

hirigana ga totimo gay des. nihonjin sama, doeshtay arufabeto 2kuru nye ka?

[Anonymous No.]

uchi hanzi ga suki dawa

[Anonymous No.]

kangxi no hou yori hirigana wa daisuki dessne

[Anonymous No.]

the virgin 日本
the chad 扶桑

[Anonymous No.]

矮丑穷倭人
高富帅中国人

[Anonymous No.]

koko ha nippon da
chuukogo nante iranu

[Anonymous No.]

the virgin です
the chad ご座る

[Anonymous No.]

>>21113863
>koko ha nippon da
>ha
m8.

[Anonymous No.]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tkDPh-SSDjE

[Anonymous No.]

こうぎ

[Anonymous No.]

its rominji

[Anonymous No.]

eigo wa chou chou chou muzukashi yo

[Anonymous No.]

Hey guys how good/bad is duolingo for learning Japanese
I don't use it or have any intention to,just some guy I know said he started learning Japanese with duolingo.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21113936
duolingo is a timewaster phone game for people who like to pretend to be productive.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21113477
>>21113464
>Ask question
>Get mad when someone answers question
W
E
W

[Anonymous No.]

This thread is so slow that it's really hindering my ability to procrastinate doing anything actually productive. Shame on you all.

[Anonymous No.]

here i'll fix that

quiz me or u dont kno japanese

[Anonymous No.]

I don't know Japanese and I want to keep it that way, but you guys aren't helping very much at all.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21113736
It's not clear you melon. Just use it.

[Anonymous No.]

iya yo
zettai iya

[Anonymous No.]

iya yo? that doesn't seem right

this isn't old mcdonalds farm this is japanese

[Anonymous No.]

im gonna get good whether I want to or not

[Anonymous No.]

私はロリコン

[Anonymous No.]

I can't read that, put it into romiji/rominji please.

[Anonymous No.]

Reminder that, while it's obviously not for "Absolute Beginners", and it's geared towards FUN and COMPELLING rather than being easy or covering simple subject matter, Jamal's VN chart completely obsoletes anything else because it was made by someone who actually read most of the stuff on it. There's a bunch of shit on the left side you shouldn't play if you don't know Japanese but if you use your brain you should be able to avoid it.

[Anonymous No.]

Oh yeah and it should really only have two columns, there's no real difference between the first to and also no real difference between the second two (futsuu and muzukasii).

[Anonymous No.]

if
げ

にてませんか

[Anonymous No.]

>>21114209
wheres hanahira

[Anonymous No.]

I came to this sushi place but what's this used for?

[Anonymous No.]

>>21114280
No one of these nerds here has ever been to Japan so don't expect an answer.

Also its most likely hot water for tea. There should be macha powder around somewhere on the table.

[Anonymous No.]

I wanna talk shit to him, but he's right. I've never been to Japan. I don't even know what macha is.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21114280
it is for washing your hands, you press the button and water comes out

[Anonymous No.]

>>21114297
Live in Japan, only been to one sushi place. I think it's for tea.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21114444
>>21114297
these guys are retards who want you to have germs on your hands

[Anonymous No.]

>>21114209
oh no its another installment of・・this

>>21114317
dont worry im always here to give u the edutainment u need

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Md0jjLB6wuk#t=52

[Anonymous No.]

>>21114280
thats the emergency dickwash

[Anonymous No.]

After I finish each chapter of RTK, I eat a piece of fruit to celebrate all the new words I´ve learned.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21114453
いつでもヤマザワで寿司を買えるので寿司屋に行く気になれないの。

[Anonymous No.]

>>21114453
if u tried to wash ur hands with that thing ud just make a bigger nastier germier mess retardo

imagine a dude just comes over and nonchalantly turns it on and starts splashin shit everywhere rubbing his hands together and shit lol ud trigger so many ppl and frankly it would be a stunt on the level of a logan paul

[Anonymous No.]

>>21114471
i dont give a fuck but at least its not junk food

now do 10 pushups every time u cant read a word and ull really be the true djt "chad"

[Anonymous No.]

>>21114453
ろっかくんをつかえばみるだけでめがくさる

せいきまつきゅうのドブみずですら

こんこんとわきでるだいちのいずみレベルまでに

じょうかすることがかのうなのだ

[Anonymous No.]

>>21114491

[Anonymous No.]

Retarded question incoming: should I learn the meanings of the individual jouyou kanji? I have about 2500 mature cards and have just been mining from anime and manga but I have no idea what a lot of the meanings are for the individual jouyou.

[Anonymous No.]

Galaxy brain question incoming: should I even bother learning?

[Anonymous No.]

>>21114537
i dont think its a bad idea but i dont think theres a good way to do so outside of authentic japanese instruction

>>21114552
no u shouldnt

cuz it happens naturally lol

[Anonymous No.]

>>21114537
I think there can be some benefit right at the start of doing it, but if you are that far in then don't bother since you probably can already guess the meaning from the words they are used in

[Anonymous No.]

in japanese is there a phrase or word for someone who’s easily satisfied and doesn’t need a lot of stimulation/noise to have fun?

[Anonymous No.]

>>21114561
自閉症児

[Anonymous No.]

>>21114554
>i dont think theres a good way to do so outside of authentic japanese instruction
What do you mean? My idea was to just go through the list and add the ones that I don't know to my anki deck (if it isn't some obviously useless shit).
>>21114560
>you probably can already guess the meaning from the words they are used in
Yeah, for some of them, but a lot of them i have no idea what they are

[Anonymous No.]

GUYS I"M SORRY I WAS THAT ONE ANON THAT WROTE 2 weeks earlier that i was leaving but i've been visiting this thread every single day. Just wanted to get that off my chest

[Anonymous No.]

>>21114567
i thought u wanted like real ninja meaning

my suggestion is actually just to google kanji resources for japanese ppl

[Anonymous No.]

GUYS I'M SORRY, I TOOK A SHIT AND DIDN'T KEEP YOU POSTED! Just wanted to get that off my colon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21114579
you mean boipuccy

[Anonymous No.]

>>21114579
dont worry every time u post ur keeping us posted on that : )

[Anonymous No.]

>>21114465
>oh no its another installment of・・this
Always here to give things a fresh new spin 主人公殿.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21114537
Just do rtk1 and then 3, its like a painful bandaid you need to rip off. Having the kanji foundation to the point of being able to write them all is priceless.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21114628
コンピューターがあれば漢字を書かなくていいので書き方がわからなくていいじゃん。だったら時間の無駄だ。

[Anonymous No.]

>>21113270
leyline

[Anonymous No.]

>>21114628
Is it actually worth doing RTK3?

[Anonymous No.]

>>21111933
What addon(s) are you using to get all that extra info?

[Anonymous No.]

>>21114698
dont even go there, you don't want to be part of the wank about my anki stats club. it's best to never even take a look at this shit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21114693
時間の無理だよ

[Anonymous No.]

>>21114669
It incorporates another region of your brain and language function for japanese though. I tried it without any rtk and it was like going through mud, then I did lazy kanji in 2 months and it was a lot easier and now I'm redoing it again with writing and rtk purist method and it's even better. But as always to each his own.

[Anonymous No.]

（RTKの）漢字の勉強はまったく無駄になるよ。読むコトによって毎日少しずつ学ぶわけだ。

[Anonymous No.]

After doing all of this for a while now I feel any detailed guide on how to achieve fluency in a language is mostly misguided.

You will notice that even the people who wrote the guide, if they are fluent, did not reach fluency by following the things they put down there.
In reality the path to fluency is a lot more muddled, mostly stumbling around and figuring out what works and what doesnt work for you, which also changes based on how proficient you get in that language.

So really the only good general advice is to use the language as much as you can and try out all kinds of different things to see what helps and what doesnt and don't follow some platonic language learning plan to a T.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21114737
英語で話してるコトを考えて見ると・・・違う
英語で話してるコトだけじゃなくて僕は漢字で話してるコトも考えて見ると、どうでしょう？

[Anonymous No.]

>>21114757
agreed
also this time on my second pass through rtk I'm doing readings to kanji, I'm just always finding ways to push myself and exploit what I don't know at an interconnected pace

[Anonymous No.]

>>21114757
>unless it's Matt's, in which case you're following the only correct plan and should not deviate even the slightest bit.
>tokorode, watashi wa gei

You forgot to add these bits to the end of your blog post.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21114763
多分たくさんただ読みました。わたしはしれない、むずかしいよ。おめでとう（皮肉じゃなくて）

[Anonymous No.]

100 漢字 a day here. The difficulty went up a bit today but nothing too serious. More people came up to me asking why i'm learning Chinese and telling them its my hobby didn't make them go away as fast as i liked. I'm on a 12 漢字 an hour you FUCKS. 6/22完

[Anonymous No.]

>>21111492
yeah

[Anonymous No.]

>>21114932
yikes

[Anonymous No.]

Anyone else learning because they'd like to read Japanese literature? That's not my only reason -- there are a few VNs and other things I'd like to read as well -- but I imagine all of that should come fairly easily after dealing with real literature.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21114770
I had meant to ask this earlier. If you make the front contain the On- and Kun-yomi, do you end up with unique cards, or are there duplicates which need to be distinguished some other way?

[Anonymous No.]

>>21114960
no duplicates, sometimes it's a bit tricky though I got the emergency keyword flip there and use it sometimes

[Anonymous No.]

>>21114954
I actually want to but it's not my main motivator. My main motivator is actually communicating with Japanese people like some normie. All the media is just a plus.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21114984
>actually communicating with Japanese people like some normie.
I highly doubt I'll ever do that in any capacity. I don't really want to either.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21114982
Did you make them as separate Cards so that their stats wouldn't interfere with the keyword-to-kanji set you presumably already matured? Also, do you display the keyword on the Answer side of the Readings-Kanji cards for reinforcement or do you keep that hidden under the Hint?

[Anonymous No.]

>>21114209
>because it was made by someone who actually read most of the stuff on it
Any evidence of that or are you just saying this because you're one of those weird jamal fetishists.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21114708
「無駄」じゃん？

[Anonymous No.]

>>21114566
annoying

[Anonymous No.]

>>21114757
when i get fluent i'll make a "how to get fluent guide" and list step by step everything i did rather than what i think is most efficient about what i did.

for example 4 hours minimum of browsing /djt/ every day for a year.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21115077
and at about the 15 years mark, one can try and take JLPT N3

[Anonymous No.]

everything u need 2 do after watching 10k hours of eng subbed anime is outlined here minus how to build a time machine

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JRliw-b5dlA

[Anonymous No.]

lets face it: the time it gets fluent is too long to be invested in a general on 4chan regardless of how much you shitpost on it right now. ive had 2 other hobby-related generals that i was in for 2+ years but eventually you get tired of it and fuck off out of there, even if you continue with the hobby.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21115097
after the first year you start to lose interest and drop to 1 hour of djt a day while reading and listening more.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21115000
I use the card format editor but it's a separate deck from my first time. I never matured them all my first time either, some wouldn't stick so I'm also hoping after reading for a while and writing that goes away. Seems to have I"m at over 90% retention this time. And yea I keep keywords hidden on both sides.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21115121
Fair enough. I'm considering making a 2nd Card set with the readings on the front and scheduling them to all come after the Keyword cards. If I ever get that far, I'll report back how it goes.

[Anonymous No.]

Just because you're a retard that's unable to commit to 6 hours a day for 15 years doesn't mean the rest of us are unable. I'm on year 7 of patroning this general right now and I'm just about to follow my 線梅's lead into Yotsuba.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21115106
I lost my interest in my first moment in here.
Although I come back when I need help, ask my question and lurk a while to see if its answered.
Im sure most people here won't make it. Like 99%
Probably not making as a human being as well. Its sad, so I don't like to spend more than a couple of minutes in here.
And I advice anyone to do the same as well

[Anonymous No.]

>>21115126
Gl, just keep it fun and don't push yourself too hard, I went too hard at the start and spiraled out. Patience.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21115105
I hope you don't think you're in the 1%

[Anonymous No.]

>>21115218
Assuming you are the same anon:

But I'm talking to you, not to some quizmaster nor jamal. How's YOUR japanese learning going?

[Anonymous No.]

>>21115209
imagine being this jealous that i spent over 2 decades having fun and u spent however long uve been at it memorizing flashcards lol

[Anonymous No.]

>>21115228
I'm a seperate anon and relatively new, but to say 99% of the people here wont make it and not even 100 people post here and I know of 2 people had to be pointed out. That being said why don't you duel the quizmaster?

[Anonymous No.]

quiztard*

[Anonymous No.]

>>21115220
heres my challenge

without cheating and looking up lyrics transcribe the couple of bars (10 seconds) starting from this timestamp

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wFKvOPQyVL0#t=91

[Anonymous No.]

Why are most VN torrents on nyaa/sukubei either dead or on 1 seeder?
I swear if it wasn't for the ruskie torrent sites I'd have to look into private trackers...

[Anonymous No.]

>>21115220
you posted some videos or pictures of your cards a few days ago

can you post them again?

[Anonymous No.]

>>21115305
i've downloaded some 'dead' torents. every once in a while someone would seed it for a couple of minutes. usually it takes a couple of weeks to complete but it's possible.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21115305
I think all the stats being lost forever on the older torrents has a lot to do with it. I still can't believe the original Nyaa owner just deleted fucking everything without making any backups before hand. That was such a shitty thing to do. If he knew that EU law was coming (which he did) and he was planning to delete the site if it passed, he should've made a backup the day before and shared it to limit the damage, or at least alerted other people as to his intentions so someone else could've made a backup.

Also, Russian sites? You mean RuTracker? I had no idea RuTracker had VNs on it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21115343
there is a point do it urself in earnest and dont worry u dont gotta tell me how it goes i dont care

after all ive always done it for the boys and for free

if ur unwilling at all tho ur an extreme pussy boy afraid to face even himself

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i8Whjjdc2DI#t=27

[Anonymous No.]

>>21115325
>>21115354
Oh, so it might just be the stats that are fucky, didn't think of that.

And yeah, I just downloaded Axanael off of RuTracker, has like 2 seeders, but it's still fast.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21114698
I am the guy you are replying to and >>21114702 is almost right. Getting info on your true retention rate is probably a good thing. The rest? A waste.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21115416
Oh no dude. Don't tell me you unironically watch this for fun.

[Anonymous No.]

Why is that everyone here has such a shitty taste in music? Dear lord

[Anonymous No.]

>>21113728
>then you literally have no reason to be here anymore
people can't help help others who know less than them? or just discuss the language with others?

[Anonymous No.]

>>21115425
post what u think is good so i can tell u its not im always lookin to brnach out : )

[Anonymous No.]

DJT is like gotham city now, we got Quizmaster as the riddler, Jamal as the joker, Nuke is the pengiun, khatz is Ra's Al Ghul and ajatt is The League of Assassins, m4tt is bane. I'm going to get good and beat you all though.. I'm going to be your batman.

[Anonymous No.]

i appreciate the batman references extremely because riddler was in batman forever which was objectively the worst batman movie of all time lmao

[Anonymous No.]

最近苦しんだ人いる？

[Anonymous No.]

finally some useful advice from cure dolly
https://streamable.com/8rngp

[Anonymous No.]

>>21115385
>Oh, so it might just be the stats that are fucky, didn't think of that.
Yes and no.

Often torrents have seeds even if they say they don't, but my experience is that there's usually only one or two (if you're lucky). I think the problem is that whatever tracker the new Nyaa is using to monitor seed and peer statistics doesn't detect old seeds who have been in the swarm since before the original Nyaa went down.

The important columns for older torrents are the leech column and the checkmark column. If the leech column shows quite a lot of leeches on a torrent, you're probably looking at a best case scenario of the torrent being 99.9% complete with no crucial game files missing (where the missing 0.1% is maybe a .txt file or something), otherwise you're looking at a dead torrent with most or all of the game data missing. The checkmark column shows the number of fully completed (100%) downloads, so if this column displays something other than "0" then there was, at some point after the new Nyaa site was created at least, a seed on that torrent (the leeches column, as mentioned before, can be helpful in ascertaining whether this seed is likely to still be around or not).

If a seed is listed on an old torrent, you know that the seed in question came from the new Nyaa site and not the original one. It's depressing how rare it is to catch sight of one of these...

[Anonymous No.]

>>21115459
good dolly clip but not enough to dethrone the king

https://streamable.com/nb6zm

[Anonymous No.]

>>21115239
dang jamal i thought you were good at japanese

[Anonymous No.]

キターーー(゜∀゜)ーーーー!!!!!

[Anonymous No.]

>>21115462
Also, it pays to have patience when it comes to seemingly completely or partially dead torrents. I've had the experience now a couple of times that a torrent which appeared to have been completely abandoned actually wasn't and it was just that the lone seed for it hardly ever came online.

That said, I've also had the disappointing experience of all torrents for a particular thing being completely dead where even after sitting on them for a month I never managed to get even 0.1% of them, so it's best not to get your hopes up.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21115459
i wonder what dolly really looks like

[Anonymous No.]

>>21115464
>https://streamable.com/nb6zm
sounds like a great night

[Anonymous No.]

>>21115475
idgi but still https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oet27pu0KR8#t=122

[Anonymous No.]

>>21114444
live in japan but only been to one sushi place wtf is wrong with u dude. i went to kaitenzushi like 3 times a week when i lived in tokyo

[Anonymous No.]

sushi is nice but u know what i really like

https://streamable.com/92y0g

[Anonymous No.]

Where is the cute anon who likes to take quizzes and chickened out the other day?

[Anonymous No.]

>>21115544
Still glad I introduced djt to this jukujo. I binge watched all videos when I found her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21115553
Drop the link so I can drop you in a can with my kanji power level.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21115555
i have no idea who she is i just clipped it assumedly out of a vid u linked at one point and just called it a day with that

[Anonymous No.]

>>21115560
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nSipYY933eU#t=16

[Anonymous No.]

>>21115560
https://discord.gg/fkcMMn

good luck

[Anonymous No.]

>>21114932
Lmao, they're not going to stick like that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21115582
UCPKbInmaKcY2aXjetO_waNg

[Anonymous No.]

She looks more and more like a まぼろし in her newer vids lol

[Anonymous No.]

>>21115592
>_waNg

well now im obligated to at least check it out

[Anonymous No.]

>>21115577
So you use anki and think you are the best? lmao

[Anonymous No.]

when it comes to sucking dick i gotta agree

[Anonymous No.]

^

[Anonymous No.]

>>21115618
I hope you are just trying to trigger lol

[Anonymous No.]

>>21115630
you can easily just join and prove him wrong if you think it's not true. i dont know why ppl get annoyed about him saying that when noone has actually proven otherwise

[Anonymous No.]

>>21115426
you like moe?

[Anonymous No.]

>>21115641
and i need to prove myself because...?

[Anonymous No.]

>>21115649
noone is saying you do, but you can't really deny him his right to say that he's the best when he's put that title on the line and noone has taken it from him

[Anonymous No.]

id rather get told i dont know japanese than do anything with that guy besides laugh at him and watch him keep doing his song and dance lol

[Anonymous No.]

>>21115626
>>21115628
knowing words = sucking dick?
so does knowing grammar = anal or something lol

[Anonymous No.]

>>21115659
best at reading flashtards? wow! thats huge!

[Anonymous No.]

>>21115667
lol

[Anonymous No.]

>>21115617
its like misa sensei but reversed

[Anonymous No.]

>>21115641
>i dont know why ppl get annoyed about him saying that when noone has actually proven otherwise
because they don't know japanese, simple

[Anonymous No.]

>>21115668
we've been over this before but.

1) it's a pre-requisite to read japanese to know the words. if you don't know the words it proves you can't read japanese. whether or not you can comprehend it is different. hence;
2. we also do other types of quizzes such as listening + translation quiz (https://streamable.com/gutin)) and writing quizes (https://streamable.com/xopym)) to verify that people are not just complete ankidrones

[Anonymous No.]

For me it’s Chinese.

[Anonymous No.]

shut up flashtard

[Anonymous No.]

>>21115689
None of these reflect the reading experience:

read what you like
at your own pace
by yourself without any pressure to be fast

[Anonymous No.]

>>21115667
in a thread the only thing that matters is how u post

u cant honestly say he does anything but blow dick at that

[Anonymous No.]

>>21115689
i like how 1 is basically just the same reasoning as why u would do rtgay lol

2 sounds really fuckin gay but this generation has to do everything as a group so its not surprising in that way

[Anonymous No.]

>>21115711
the point is that if you aren't able to even read the words that you see (ie pronounce them in your head while you read) that means you can't possible read japanese. as i said, it's a pre-requisite.

i would fully believe that you have the POTENTIAL to read if you can do the n2/n1 quiz by yourself at whatever pace you like. but if you can not do that then it 100% proves that you do not have the POTENTIAL to read and therefore you can not possibly be better than the quizmaster, who has proven both potential and ability.

it's as simple as that. and if you don't like him calling himself the best you can attempt to prove otherwise in whichever way you prefer.

[Anonymous No.]

i hate low quality pdf its disgusting to use and i dont feel like buying the book bc theres already a scanned ver i hate them

[Anonymous No.]

like it or not the quizmaster is here and he's dedicated too so as much as we hate his disposition.. he will motivate people

[Anonymous No.]

>>21115723
let me stop u and blow ur mind

calling it a prerequisite is wrong because u can learn how to read them by encountering them while reading and then looking them up

if u autistically sort every aspect of language and keep them separate u will never learn how to put it all together and thus never learn japanese

u gotta do it all and u gotta do it all together

*bows*

[Anonymous No.]

>>21115735
really bro, i mean, really?

[Anonymous No.]

>>21115722
i suppose in this modern age it's possible to be able to read without actually knowing kanji. but if you want to like just buy a fukin book and read it then you're not gonna be able to do that. there's no texthooking for books.

i really wouldnt call anyone who relies on hovering over ever kanji in yomichan able to read japanese even if they could understand it perfectly by doing that, i could easily read french by looking up every word in a dictionary as i go along but to say im "good at reading french" would be a lie

[Anonymous No.]

>>21115722
you couldnt be more right

to sum it up
>>21115689
1 - same reasoning behind rtk
2 - ultra gay

[Anonymous No.]

>>21115747
do you really think if you buy a LN and read through it looking up every kanji you see that counts as being able to read japanese? noone here wants to be at that level, and surely someone who can read the book WITHOUT looking up anything is undoubtedly better [assuming the same level of comprehension]

[Anonymous No.]

>>21115775
but hes not my enemy he just a pity manchild at best

[Anonymous No.]

so essentially you guys are just saying that its okay to rely on yomichan/texthooking etc your whole life and not actually learn any vocab cause you dont have to, it's pretty dumb

why not just turn on the english subs? now you can understand the japanese 100%

[Anonymous No.]

>>21115789
err not quite
esl here, sometimes i dont understand the subtitles

[Anonymous No.]

>>21115784
im not putting labels on things like oh i can use a kanji dictionary so i can read japanese kind of thing

that shit doesnt matter

its all a means to an end [to enjoy the epic light novella so long as u are compelled]

tho like ive always said its a really bad idea to jump into text only if ur so bad that u have to look up like half of everything and even then itll still prolly suck but being compelled will be enough

[Anonymous No.]

>>21115785
he's my enemy and I look forward to beating him and laughing mercilessly

[Anonymous No.]

>>21115797
ok so turn on brasilian subs or w/e the fuck. you get my point.

it's not reading if you're relying on a tool to assist you. that's like saying you're 'good at CS' when you use an aimbot. sure you can use the aimbot and kill absolutely everyone, but noone would say you're actually playing the game

[Anonymous No.]

>>21115805
i got bad news for you. if thats your mentality, youre not gonna make it, sorry

[Anonymous No.]

>>21115802
>its all a means to an end [to enjoy the epic light novella so long as u are compelled]
and surely isnt the ultimate end to be able to enjoy it WITHOUT having to look anything up? so why shouldn't that be considered a vital part of knowing japanese? it's the literal ultimate goal. who WANTS to be able to keep relying on shit like yomichan and texthookers their whole life? it prohibits you from consuming any content that cant utilise those tools

[Anonymous No.]

>>21115807
brazilian. its a Z, not S
and if i turned brazilian subs, i would understand nothing, but relax brah, i was just teasing you. i liked the cs example tho

[Anonymous No.]

>>21115821
it's brasilian if you're from brasil. like nihonjin. just saying m8

[Anonymous No.]

>>21115807
did you just assumed my nationality?

[Anonymous No.]

>>21115830
its português (for the language) and brasileiro/brasileira for nationality.
just saying m8

[Anonymous No.]

>>21115815
i mean having that as a distant ideal is nice but calling it a goal is childish shortsighted and frankly naive

that will come when u do enough page flippin in the kanji dictionary (not going to speak on mouseovering cuz i think information is moving too quickly for ppls brains to deal with) and eventually ull be able to use it less and less

u dont have to become the kanji dictionary first and its really not advisable over just becoming more familiar with more japanese things and contexts instead

[Anonymous No.]

>>21115846
lol fair enough

[Anonymous No.]

Sério? Não sabia que tinham tantos brasileiros por aqui. Sempre achei que eu era o único

[Anonymous No.]

>>21115850
i honestly dont really disagree with you and i think the higher levels of the quiz are pretty dumb and dont correlate well with japanese reading ability, but i think it's very unlikely that someone can read well but struggle with shit like n2 level vocab. the opposite is undoubtedly true, you can be an ankidrone and know thousands of vocab like that french guy but be unable to read, but the test simple narrows it down who actually has the basic ability to read stuff.

i mean the quizmaster could undoubtedly btfo my gf in the quiz but that does not in anyway mean he can read better than her (in terms of speed or comprehension), this is something he struggles to comprehend for sure. but i think ultimately it's fair enough for him to say that he's the best when his comprehension is good and he also knows enough words to not have to look shit up all the time.

(although i'd say jamal probably is the best in fact since hes been at it so long but he's clearly above this teenage bullshit)

[Anonymous No.]

>>21115852
fuck off, this is not the daily mexican thread

[Anonymous No.]

>>21115893
neither its the daily english thread
your point?

[Anonymous No.]

obviously id recommend just bumping the shit down a notch so u can feel what its like to actually keep the flow going but no one listens to that and still wanna go right for the light novels and visual novels and wonder why it makes them wanna die

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IrqO4eSqRC4

[Anonymous No.]

>tripfag still here
MOOOOOOOOOOOOODS

[Anonymous No.]

>>21115919
i dont think anyone its being taken seriously (at least i dont). im just curious to see if theres any nerds in here who actually do know like 30-40k vocab and could destroy us. thats mainly why im shilling it

[Anonymous No.]

>>21115942
the only guy i would imagine who could is kanken guy that guys is next level shit i dont know if he fucks around here much but id assume he wouldnt be too interested in showing off his party trick as to cheapen his real deal shit to some youngasses

[Anonymous No.]

>>21115852
sai daqui pedro

[Anonymous No.]

>>21115968
yea im not hopeful but thats why my tactic has mainly been confrontational because i thought someone would just put the foot down on us autists

[Anonymous No.]

>>21115969
I'm not Pedro, BTW. Just in case you are being serious... If it's just a meme, nevermind

[Anonymous No.]

>>21115981
ok rafael

[Anonymous No.]

using the anime and drama freq dictionary for yomichan, with mouseover i pay attention to the words which are in the top 10k frequency, i pay extra attention to words in the top 5k frequency, and i gloss over everything else - only looking them up so i can understand the sentence and move on, but not trying to really note or remember them. am i gonna make it?

[Rude !PIVHurdURU No.]

>>21115577
>haven't chickened out
>didn't transcribe the rap
>didn't post a vocaroo
Literal sperg.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21115992
i mean if ur pre<10k vocab then yea its probably not a massively efficient use of time to learn words you arent gonna see that often.

but freq is often misleading and the type of content you consume will alter that. authors like to repeat themselves etc

[Anonymous No.]

struggling = gains
It's really that simple. When you get burnt out on one form of suffering then find a new form and keep suffering. If it's ever easy you're not getting better.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21115976
i mean like i say all it takes is to take u out of ur flashtard comfort zone and watch u die

well start easy with something flashtard like

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kKV0rE1RlMo#t=148

mute sound keep playback at 1x and see if u can keep up without pausing or otherwise cheating

im not tryin to get at u so dont think of it as a callout just maybe demonstrating a thing

also when ur done unmute sound and enjoy ftw

[Anonymous No.]

Working on an essay for an entry level japanese course
there are certain grammar points we have to hit in the essay
I'm trying to use ことがある
does this sentence make sense?
私たちもコロラドにスキーすることがあります。

[Anonymous No.]

>>21116000
yea there are words i come across frequently enough that aren't even in the top 10k that i tend to remember because authors like them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21116017
input before output

[Anonymous No.]

how does this stupid flashcard shitty quiz works? whats the corpus?

[Anonymous No.]

when you install firefox on your shitty tablet along with wareya's extension and can read the news in bed

[Anonymous No.]

>>21116043
my tablet isnt shit :(

[Anonymous No.]

>>21116013
yea i only got 幻想 洗脳 情報 血管

but yeah i dont have any illusions about this kind of shit, i wouldnt claim to be close to native level reading speed or anything like that. i think the quizmaster is much more delusional about what his abilities actually mean.

i dont really think that kind of thing is necessarily more indicative of anything tho idk, being able to read really fast is another long term kind of goal that falls into the same category as knowing all the kanji for words u know

[Anonymous No.]

yeah bet it's good to read about pumpkin festivals at bed, that way you fall asleep fast

[Anonymous No.]

>>21116056
i like to read about your sexy chubby body in bed, anon

[Anonymous No.]

>>21116055
have ur girlfriend do it for science also i bet she does better than u at it

[Anonymous No.]

>>21116061

[Anonymous No.]

what's a funny question i can ask steve without him ignoring it, since he's livestreaming right now

[Anonymous No.]

>>21116070
do you feel any side effect while on cialis?

[Anonymous No.]

>>21116055
i dont think its necessarily indicative of much but like u see this kind of thing in movies all the time and movies are deliberate its not like they wanna put shit out there ppl cant understand or appreciate (unless ur romeo tanaka that dude doesnt fuckin care and is relentless)

[Anonymous No.]

like u should be instantly recalling emotions when u see some of those words just at face value

this is a important thing ppl end up lacking until they just have enough exposure time in the first place so did it really matter that they memorized a bunch of kanji first ?

[Anonymous No.]

>>21116035
Thanks

[Anonymous No.]

>>21116070
what's the difference between ha and ga

[Anonymous No.]

>>21116070
ask him if he can understand this vid

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nIp6uabLcj8#t=26

[Anonymous No.]

why arent the quiztards answering me? fear?

[Anonymous No.]

>>21116105
i think it's ゲイ

[Anonymous No.]

>>21116102
It's kinda cringy to see some grow ups there with this crap kid

[Anonymous No.]

btw jamal u'll probably enjoy this image

[Anonymous No.]

>>21116123
the cult leader replied
i wanna know how this shitty quiz works. what is the corpus?

[Anonymous No.]

>>21116062
ill ask her but she really hates this kind of dumb autistic shit i try to involve her in so idk if she'll answer

[Anonymous No.]

>>21116133
http://kotobaweb.com/about

[Anonymous No.]

>>21115209
>He hasn't read those.
Yes he has.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21116126
i was triggered @ "onomatopoeia quiz" but i guess its funny if u take it from the perspective of u ballin outta control on the quiz

"where they at doe"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ybcNSoh8vI4

either way posting discord screenshots is really bad fuckin form for this thread dude id advise against it in the future just cuz i like u and hope u keep posting

>>21116132
the vid itself isnt really dumb autistic shit the problem sounds like it lies in that any time u ask her about japanese anything her vagina prolly makes a loud audible clench

[Anonymous No.]

>you have to fit a 27 stroke kanji in an imaginary box the same size as a 2 stroke kanji
>but no one actually does it except computer fonts
Why even bother then

[Anonymous No.]

>>21116174
yea ill probably stop i just kind of lost my sense of etiquette recently cuz im not sure if i actually just want to piss everyone off completely or not

i think knowing onomatopoeia and shit is probably more relevant to actually knowing japanese tho (and the quizmaster obv got btfo)

>>21116174
i mean yeah exactly, she doesnt really give a fuck about japanese lmao (she also doesnt like this kind of music so she prob wouldnt be into it anyway unfortunately)

[Anonymous No.]

>>21116040
It has many dictionaries you can choose and even combine them. N5 from N1 separately, names, fucking fish names, rare words, etc.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21115992
I only pay attention to hits from script dumps of shit I read before.

[Anonymous No.]

currently memorizing all the tokyo decks so I can btfo the quizmaster

[Anonymous No.]

>>21116202
not gonna happen thats my specialty biatch. he already refuses to play the tokyo train stations quiz cuz i btfo him every time

[Anonymous No.]

>>21116206
fuck

[Anonymous No.]

>>21116191
everyone whos gonna get mad was already mad dude i dont know that u were ever really gonna really tear shit up its like the most textbook mount stupid shit just conceptually

i mean if u got more shit for us by all means but i think u could make better posts than that

[Anonymous No.]

>>21116220
the quizmaster cant fuck with the puzzlemaster

[Anonymous No.]

sorry but ur not going anywhere

an exit strategy was never in the *snorts* cards for u

[Anonymous No.]

>>21116070
ask him how he would have saved calvin
or ask him to comment on the mia outline

[Anonymous No.]

>>21116243
Making your trip public would be a better and more fun reward.

[Anonymous No.]

I probably know more words than the quiztard (30k give or take), has a decent accent (probably most gaijin would think Im native), can read my shit. what else is there for me?

[Anonymous No.]

>>21116345
cringe larper

[Anonymous No.]

damn the quiz has even more autistic features to truly test the flashtard's might

[Anonymous No.]

>>21110304
>getting any kind of practical pay-offs early on.
What the fuck are you talking about? It only takes 3 months to finish RTK. How ADHD do you have to be to not be able to spend 3 months on something? Definitely too autistic to ever actually learn the language

[Anonymous No.]

ahaha imagine posting in the thread demanding discord cred

[Anonymous No.]

>>21116390
what a vacuous reply

[Anonymous No.]

>>21116392
There is nothing wrong with asking for respect when you're far better than anyone else in this sorry thread.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21116395
why you so triggered, white boi?

[Anonymous No.]

>imagine studying a language to try to finally get respect

[Anonymous No.]

>>21116043
What extension?

[Anonymous No.]

>>21116043
>he doesn't know about tangoristo

[Anonymous No.]

>doesn't watch Terrace House per M@tto's recommendation
>expects to get good at Japanese
pick one

[Anonymous No.]

>tfw doing custom sessions of HSK level 1 & 2 vocab
fuck me, I remember more Chinese than I thought

[Anonymous No.]

は and が aren't even similar

[Anonymous No.]

>>21116243
>drop my trip
>drive me out
these are not the same

[Anonymous No.]

>>21116462
Dont you need access to japanese netflix to do that?

[Anonymous No.]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dHwnkgYJMoU

[Broccoli, You Too No.]

can anyone share Dogen's phoenetics playlist please?

[Anonymous No.]

>>21116603
https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PL6tIpL1caKiTzlAqUVD-8sRT70Ppe4imt

you can find it just searching dogen pitch accent on yt

[Anonymous No.]

>>21116603
right here dude

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gbptipsqRnE#t=414

[Anonymous No.]

Why would japanese neets need a button like this in their vns?

[Anonymous No.]

>>21116543
no, 90% of the japanese catalog is available globally
if you don't have netflix not gone make it desu

[Anonymous No.]

>はいはい、朝から騒がない。
From context I know that this is supposed to mean something like "Ye, ye, you haven't stopped making noise since morning".
Is there anything in this sentence that actually indicates that (like kara + nai or something), or is it just a context thing?

[Anonymous No.]

>>21116616
so thats what i sound like in japanese

[Anonymous No.]

>>21116434
nazeka

[Anonymous No.]

くさい
くさくない
におい
におくない

[Anonymous No.]

>>21116616
the days of japanese people caring about america and english are truly dead I guess

[Broccoli, You Too No.]

>>21116614
>https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PL6tIpL1caKiTzlAqUVD-8sRT70Ppe4imt

I did find that, and it was last updated april last year so I was thinking if there's a more updated one elsewhere.

>>21116616
oooooooooooooo

[Anonymous No.]

>>21116616
i dont get it

[Anonymous No.]

>>21116645
well u see its very simple ill have the man himself explain it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ct6BUPvE2sM#t=29

[Anonymous No.]

is there a multiverse jamal who posts in the /int/ djt thread called tyrone?

[Anonymous No.]

>>21116543
It's on avistaz

[Anonymous No.]

When transfering to monolingual why do (aja|ma)tt people advise using a dictionary for definitions?
Wouldn't making your own from the vocabulary you know be better? You both get to use the language and you're more likely to remember it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21116603
its in the guide

[Anonymous No.]

>>21116512
is there a reason to learn the difference when you can just let your SOUL feel when to use what?

[Anonymous No.]

>>21116728
trying to explain what a word means urself when u dont know japanese is really fuckin bad and dangerous

u are not allowed to be the dictionary when u dont know the language

plus theres no reason u cant still try to interpret the definition and explain it in ur own terms when ur a bit more proficient

[Anonymous No.]

>>21116728
writing your own definitions of words you dont know the meaning of when youre not good enough at japanese to even read dictionary entries sounds like a great way to permanently cripple your japanese

[Anonymous No.]

kanji are the last remnant of hieroglyphic writing

[Anonymous No.]

theyre also drawings of chinese houses

[Anonymous No.]

but dolly says they're the pictographic representations of eternal metaphysical principles, and since she says shes the only person to ever have taught japanese correctly she cant be wrong about this

> To anyone reasonably well versed in traditional metaphysics, the meaning of some of the basic kanji is immediately and transparently obvious. Unfortunately, Western writers on kanji origins, armed with the beloved “progress” ideology and a total ignorance of traditional thought, work hard to obscure this. Let us try to set the record straight.

https://learnjapaneseonline.info/2014/03/29/kanji-what-the-western-experts-cant-tell-you/

[Anonymous No.]

>>21116728
lmao this nibba thinks he can make his own definitions of words, like bruh read a dictionary some time

[Anonymous No.]

damn that meme about having to have read everything to get the references in this wasn't bullshit

[Anonymous No.]

>>21116808
unfortunately i cant really shit about that thing they wrote there cuz they did talk about 十

: )

so instead heres a page of dollys book lol away

[Anonymous No.]

well of course u did u would

[Anonymous No.]

>>21116880
easy for a fckin german to say lol

[Anonymous No.]

>>21113942
I was upset by the obnoxious answer that completely ignored everything in order to be a cunt.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21116909
no one was confused about what you did

[BootyCheek-Sama No.]

>>21116946
They were though, and they used those misunderstandings to insult me.

see:
>dumbass finding something to be mad about when I was just curious about whether or not I should study something alongside the hiragana because I don't take a guide written by someone I don't know as god's word
>Dumbass nitpicking me calling hiragana and katakana alphabets because I picked it up from someone else,

Sure, he answered the question but he was butthurt that I was making sure before investing tons of time into it when I could be twice as efficient.

[Anonymous No.]

>2019
>reading the guide

ishygddt

[BootyCheek-Sama No.]

I read it. I'm following it. Sorry for attempting to ensure I don't unnecessarily sink my time by getting a second opinion.

[Anonymous No.]

Is it worthwhile to just memorize a manga chapter? I think I understand how it can be helpful but I feel like it's just me lying to myself and I know what I'm reading not because I read it in Japanese but because I looked up half the words and remembered what each page was about

[Anonymous No.]

>>21116971
>calling other people weebs
>namefagging as sama
so this is what jp has become

[BootyCheek-Sama No.]

>>21117004
I'm namefagging because I want to be nice and let you guys filter me if you get tired of me. It's for your convenience.
Also, fair enough.

[Anonymous No.]

implying i get fazed by online posting and have to hide it

[Anonymous No.]

>namefag takes a name
>immediately starts turning /djt/ into his blog
how did we not see this coming?

[Anonymous No.]

i get shit on in this threads which makes me so fucking angry i start shaking so i have to alt tab a lot

[BootyCheek-Sama No.]

All I did was ask a question, anon. I hate namefags as much as you guys. They're mostly attentionseeking. I don't mind not having a name or being acknowledged. If it annoys you I'll take it off right now.
I'm just using it as a suggestion from another person who wanted to filter me.

[djt no ou-sama No.]

idk lets find out

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>21117078
somebody make the cards anki

[Anonymous No.]

does anyone know more streams like dsgstng? I'd like to not see news but that is a side note.

[djt no ou-sama No.]

>>21117089
not mine tho dont make mine anki

[lil doofy No.]

>>21117042
sick idea
>>21117055
now u just need to calm down and stop caring what people say and stop responding defensively to every single post
ur gonna do a lot better if u can 笑う

[djt no ou-sama No.]

>>21117147
i had think for a minute before i remembered this one lol

[Anonymous No.]

now lets see the quizmaster's cards.

[Anonymous No.]

what is best? reading the same book several times until I can read it all without a dictionary or reading several books till I can read a new one without looking up words?

[djt no ou-sama No.]

latter always

[Anonymous No.]

what are some japanese sites for fanfics? i've only been reading stuff on pixiv

[djt no ou-sama No.]

u dont even know whos who luckily u can just refer to the name field of my post

also i think u should just keep watching anime i dont care about ur not flashcards

[Anonymous No.]

>>21117224
kinda makes me want to kill you with an axe

[djt no ou-sama No.]

i dont actually mind the post itself its actually funny to me

also todays nihongo word of the day is 古拙

check back tomorrow for the next nihongo word of the day

[Anonymous No.]

>>21117224
>Black on white

I mean first of all it's white on black, but "black on white" as you called it, strains your eyes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21114960
>>21115000
why not just have both the readings AND keywords on the front??

[Anonymous No.]

>>21117247
guess i'm the flashtard king now

[Anonymous No.]

wonder why the cardtard bothers to record audio he doesn't listen to

[Anonymous No.]

500 hours in paint

[Anonymous No.]

今日の天気は初めまして

[Anonymous No.]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7djqr-RG26s
how do i get a voice this deep

[Anonymous No.]

>>21117312
50 cigs a gay

[Anonymous No.]

that would kill him

[Anonymous No.]

Anyone know if it's possible to edit Nazeka's reader to change the font, background color, etc.?

[djt no ou-sama No.]

nazeka its shit

[Anonymous No.]

>>21117002
sleepy and sad

[Anonymous No.]

>>21117387
The alternatives are worse. Unless you use EPWING dictionaries, I don't see why you'd ever pick Yomichan over Nazeka.

[Anonymous No.]

why wasn't rikai ever updated did that fag give up on japanese

[djt no ou-sama No.]

>>21117457
there is 1 more option that also happens to be the best

[Anonymous No.]

jesus these threads are fucking horrible
why do you even come here

[Anonymous No.]

>>21117312
wouldn't it be funny if he was secretly curedolly

[Anonymous No.]

>>21117486
What do you mean? What dictionary do I use? Just JMDICT.

J-E is a much better choice for reading than J-J since it minimizes the amount of time you spend reading dictionary entries and lets you spend the maximum amount of time possible reading your compelling content instead.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21117384
Okay, I found a work-around. It looks like there's no setting so it's impossible to make persistent changes, but it's possible to edit the page using Firefox's "Inspect Element" tool to change the font and such. Bit of a pain though since you have to do it each time you open the reader, so I probably won't bother.

>>21117584
>It's not like you have to always read them.
If you aren't reading them then they're just bloating the popup and making the add-on less convenient to use. The whole point of Rikai-like add-ons is the first place is that they make word look-ups fast and convenient. Both J-J definitions and popups that you have to scroll through like Yomichan's take away those fundamental advantages and make you break away from your reading in order to perform the lookup.

On the very rare occasions I ever feel a need to look up the J-J definition, I just open qolibri. But I hardly ever do.

Anyway, I won't argue anymore. You're free to do as you please. I'm going back to my reading.

[Anonymous No.]

who cares fuck off

[Anonymous No.]

>>21117677
I hope this is your suicide note

[Anonymous No.]

I've been trying to learn hiragana for a month and I still don't have it down fully
When do I accept defeat and give up?

[Anonymous No.]

>>21117677
fuck off flashtard

>>21117684
fuck on rookie

[Anonymous No.]

>>21117684
3 weeks ago

[Anonymous No.]

>>21117684
my friend you should learn it in like a day, give up

[Anonymous No.]

>>21117684
On day 4 of still not knowing it. Are you learning one kana a day??

[Anonymous No.]

>>21117686
>>21117687
>>21117689
>>21117692
Fair enough. Guess I'm out lads

[djt no ou-sama No.]

>>21117677
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i8Whjjdc2DI#t=27

[Rude !PIVHurdURU No.]

>>21117677
Fuck off, flashtard. Take the chance to learn some actual Japanese and come back when you do so we can shower you with attention. Slut.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21117684
Whenever you no longer want to know Japanese I guess.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21117702
Who the fuck is this

>>21117726
Take your trip off please n thx

[Anonymous No.]

it took someone calling matt into the discord to win

[djt no ou-sama No.]

>>21117754
imagining matt playing competitive flashtards and 広義 comes up lmao

https://streamable.com/6hm1z

[Anonymous No.]

>>21117740
There comes a day when you know you're not cut out for it and it's time to stop wasting your energy

[Anonymous No.]

>>21117384
>>21117668
Couldn't that possible with a custom CSS and stylish?

[Anonymous No.]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=74i3MqeyMZw

lol wait so people believe natives of non-tonal languages can acquire pitch accent?

[djt no ou-sama No.]

>>21117788
im surprised the vid doesnt immediately just go to this https://vocaroo.com/i/s0RYPh6WwowD

[Anonymous No.]

>>21117788
what do the arrows mean

[Anonymous No.]

>>21117800
Its to show the pitch

[Anonymous No.]

I kinda miss 卑猥女子団団長.
She just wanted to play a game with you. Why did you have to be so rude to her?

[Anonymous No.]

>>21117788
LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL

[djt no ou-sama No.]

is it me or do matts vids reek of high schooler mentality

[Anonymous No.]

>>21117823
what's that

[djt no ou-sama No.]

oh and just general ineptitude

[djt no ou-sama No.]

>>21117825
basically u see the vid and it feels like ur watching something a literal naive child made

[Anonymous No.]

Can some one redpill me on pitch accent and why it is important like i get why you don't want to be having your pitch all over the place but not having it exactly as it should be isn't really any issue is it?

[Anonymous No.]

>>21117843
Afaik it's just to make your speech sound more natural by stressing certain parts of words. Like saying "mac n CHEESE" and not "MAC n cheese."

[djt no ou-sama No.]

>>21117843
pitch accent isnt a problem once u know japanese i promise

ull say shit mostly right and itll be fine

it aint like all japanese folks all talk the same either

[Anonymous No.]

I just wish I had the vocab to be able to read on my phone without needing to look shit up every single sentence. It feels like I've been at this forever and I'm still looking up the same amount of shit that I did as a total beginner sometimes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21117873
yea i mean i am aware of pitch accent and make sure i know how to pronounce any words i look up but beyond that is there really any point? i don't think so, like you don't want to be speaking like katakana but getting the pitch wrong occasionally is a bit of a different thing from going wa ta shi wa matoo desooo

[Anonymous No.]

>>21117677
don't leave us please

[Anonymous No.]

Who will step up to become the new quizmaster?

[djt no ou-sama No.]

>>21117886
theres really not and theres even lots of japanese ppl that sound like shit and could stand to clean their shit up

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1w_bUFR1v2U

[Anonymous No.]

shut up flashtard

[Anonymous No.]

i don't see how it is even possible to acquire pitch accent even if you learn it

[Anonymous No.]

I don't even normally hate tripfags just for being tripfags but that dude literally only came here to be an asshole, so who needs em?

[Anonymous No.]

i’m a bit hungry i’m down for some cookies and milk

[Anonymous No.]

i don't see how it is possible not to acquire pitch accent

[Anonymous No.]

>>21117930
wtf is a tripfag

[Anonymous No.]

>>21117930
no one and in fact no one was even thinking about him till you posted this

[Anonymous No.]

>>21117939
please stop misgendering 卑猥女子団団長

[Anonymous No.]

Who will conduct the quizzes if there is no quizmaster?

[Anonymous No.]

>>21117930
really glad you brought this up again.

anyway why did calvin lie to himself in this pic?

[djt no ou-sama No.]

>>21117949
cuz hes a hot niggery mess

[Anonymous No.]

>>21117949
lol this guy is such a fucking faggot

literally sells his shit and then buys it back

as if he has to live his entire life in nothing BUT japanese to learn it. can't have friends or play games. man what a FUCKING WEAK BITCH man people like that piss me off, unthinking fucking idiot

[Anonymous No.]

https://twitter.com/calvininput/with_replies

he's back boys

[Anonymous No.]

>>21117954
Will you be the new quizmaster?

[Anonymous No.]

>Thought you were gonna be back in a year?
>I changed my mind
laughed out loud. what is wrong with this dude. why does he have to make these ultimatums that he never sticks to.

[djt no ou-sama No.]

>>21117969
what the fCUK

>>21117973
sorry dude no more quizmaster its time to get back to our usual round of ecelebs innit m8

[Anonymous No.]

there's nothing more to be gained from djt
all you do is chat about nigger failures like calvin and jamal

[Anonymous No.]

Can someone contact Calvin and ask him to be the new quizmaster?

[Anonymous No.]

damn quizmaster is now a meme i forced it

[Anonymous No.]

man you really do need to read all those books to get the references wtf

[djt no ou-sama No.]

>>21117981
wait excuse i am not a "nigger failure"

[djt no ou-sama No.]

>>21117991
quizmaster will be forgotten by next thread

we have a new matt video to lol at lmao

[Anonymous No.]

ware ha nanji

[Anonymous No.]

[djt no ou-sama No.]

nanji ha gay

[Anonymous No.]

i am brimming with unconscious knowledge

[Anonymous No.]

gei ha watasi

[djt no ou-sama No.]

anata ha gay

[Anonymous No.]

>>21117975
clinical muttism. his brain is degenerated from his inferior genes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21118031
damn if that's a deck for most common words the average Japanese person knows then you're halfway there dude. good looks!

[Anonymous No.]

o-nushi wa gei degozaru

[Anonymous No.]

>>21118031
lmao please post updates i want to see ur retention rate n shit

[djt no ou-sama No.]

i guess its time to get shit back on track

lets go back and appreciate lick gs amazing run on freestyle dungeon what a fuckin god

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BXV7KoofK14

[Anonymous No.]

>>21117939
Literally like 3 posts above me is a guy lamenting his exit from the thread so like, eff off?

[Anonymous No.]

>>21118169
no???

[Anonymous No.]

lmao you guys actually think all that junk will help you LEARN japanese
>>>/a/186732937
Take the anipill

[Anonymous No.]

>>21118162
>reminder that if you waste your time doing useless shit like RTK, you can't speak japanese
Fixed.

[Anonymous No.]

what are some japanese podcast you guys listen to?

[Anonymous No.]

>>21118238
Wrong and wrong.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21118259
ok

[Anonymous No.]

>>21117487
Those j-j epwing dictionaries are old now. It probably isn't worth the effort if he mains the newer volumes.

[Anonymous No.]

Do you like Japanese proverbs?

[Anonymous No.]

>>21118298
yeah they're pretty good

[Anonymous No.]

>>21118277
m8 japanese itsself is old as fuck

[Anonymous No.]

>>21117957
Trip back on.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21118391
Good to know.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21115586
my anki review stats says it's sticking. How can someone not learn 100 with 8 hours to work with.

[Anonymous No.]

Which has changed more in the past 1k years? English, Japanese, or Chinese?

Basically curious how much effort a native speaker of these respective language would have to spend learning to understand their language from 1000 years ago.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21118421
English probably. Look at English prior to the Norman conquest. It’s basically German.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21118421
Chinese > English > Japanese

[Anonymous No.]

>>21118394
never had 1 loser

[Anonymous No.]

>>21118421
English almost certainly. I dont know much about old chinese, but look up Beowulf in Old English and you will be able to read like 2 words every couple pages and it will be a word like "it". Its not even something like if you thought about it you might realize it, you just cant read it for the most part.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21118421
japanese writing has changed a lot more than the way it was spoken afaik. conjugations and nuance have changed but the general structure no

[Anonymous No.]

>>21118440
uh the writing system is based on heian period japanese, the way ppl speak only shifted mostly in the past 200 yrs [excluding dialectal differences]

[Anonymous No.]

reminder: stop using subtitles if you wanna improve your 聴解力

[Anonymous No.]

>>21117677
F
At least now you can go back to learning Japanese instead of wasting your time shitposting in DJT and battling people on discord. Everyone ITT would do well to spend less time here, myself included.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21118435
10th century Chinese is not terribly different from 18th and 19th century Chinese. Obviously a lot changed in the 20th century, but I think there’s a lot of overstatement of how significant those changes are.

English literature went through unfathomably massive changes at a variety of different periods in the last millennium.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21118470
It can be helpful if youre a complete beginner, unless you get people feeding you fake information as a joke and they dont know which honestly I see a lot here unfortunately.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21118472
Yeah, but look at SOUND CHANGES retard.
I swear to God you moon crickets never saw another human being

[Anonymous No.]

>>21118477
calm the fuck down lol some people here lose their shit at the tiniest things

[Anonymous No.]

>>21118448
so i was right?

[Anonymous No.]

>>21117780
No idea. How do you even do that custom CSS thing that ricers do in Firefox? I know a little bit of CSS, but I don't know how you get Firefox to automatically apply that custom CSS to web pages.

As for Stylish, I don't really know anything about that either besides the fact that it's an add-on.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21118421
English basically became a new language after the Norman Conquest. Give this a listen and see how much you can understand without looking at the translation:
https://youtu.be/zfaEGU45lKA

[Anonymous No.]

What the FUCK is that word?

[Anonymous No.]

>>21117677
hahahaha you barely laster 4 days bro and already got shit on. There's probably dozens of people who strole through here that would destroy you. Grats on your lucky streak with your test-centric nihongo tho.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21118531
出撃 - shortie;sally
shortie
(n) - an attack made by troops coming out from a position of defense.

[Anonymous No.]

It's an addon-internal page, so I'm pretty sure you can't style it with other addons.

You could use a separate clipboard grabber addon, but then it wouldn't have the lack of "browser chrome" (nothing but the title bar and scroll bar) that the reader page has.

I'll consider adding more options tomorrow. I need to prepare an update anyway to fix audio playback on sites with aggressive CSP settings.

For now you can have the song that I just listened to on loop all day.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xHKf9dcO85w

[Anonymous No.]

>>21118491
>japanese writing has changed a lot more than the way it was spoken afaik.
how could it change more when the written system that you are saying has changed so much is based on spoken japanese of the heian period. the writing system has changed inasmuch as the spoken word as changed over the last 1000 years

[Anonymous No.]

>>21118543
Butt... what... the FUCK... is a sortie?

[Anonymous No.]

>>21118555
>(n) - an attack made by troops coming out from a position of defense.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21118562
oh fuck im retarded and replied before i even read beyond the word "sortie."
the 出撃 meme here ensured that i'd never ever forget the word even though it's pretty clear what it means just by looking at it. thanks djt

[Anonymous No.]

>>21118531
it's like a 出動 but with more 撃

[Anonymous No.]

>>21117684
It's like a fish, if you stop swimming you'll die. If you're not getting anywhere with hiragana then move on to other japanese and let the hiragana sit in the back of your mind. When you return to it you'll find it so much easier. Let your subconscious do the heavy lifting and you just keep swimming. Gambatte (gud luck)

[Anonymous No.]

>>21118573
we're here to help

[Anonymous No.]

>>21118550
>I'll consider adding more options tomorrow. I need to prepare an update anyway to fix audio playback on sites with aggressive CSP settings.
Cool. While you're here, one more quick question:
I'm guessing the answer is going to be "no", but is there any way that the reader window can be made to behave more independently from the browser window?

Currently, if you minimize your Firefox window, the reader gets minimized as well, and the reader is locked to always appearing on top of the Firefox window. It's not the end of the world, but it does make switching between the browser and reader windows a bit awkward.

https://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm12441199

[djt no ou-sama No.]

gam fuckin batte

[Anonymous No.]

haaaaaa got 'eem

[Anonymous No.]

中文萬歲萬歲萬萬歲

[Anonymous No.]

is it stupid to want to have a counter for how many words you look up every day
just to keep yourself accountable or have some kind of stat for that

[Anonymous No.]

>>21118644
the time you spend looking for something to do that or figuring it out yourself could be spent doing nihongo instead

[Anonymous No.]

>>21118554
kanas usage changed

[Anonymous No.]

>>21118644
i was thinkin abt this desu

itd be cool if someone kept track of the # of words they looked up since beginning over a long duration like a decade or more lol

[Anonymous No.]

>>21118644
no, that's actually a good idea

[Anonymous No.]

Guys I just realized, there's literally no point to bothering with learning pitch accent

People who've gotten really good at Japanese but didn't a single about pitch accent:
1. Khatz (lives in Canada with Japanese gf)
2. Adam/the Jalup guy (lives in California with Japanese wife)
3. Yoga (met wife on the plane to Japan)
4. Pre-2017 Matt (chatted up the high school girls he showed around Portland in 2013 and got them giggling and impressed)
5. Tkyosam (banged tons of Christmas cake Japanese women)

People who gave a shit about pitch accent:
1. Dogen (probably speaks 80% accurate pitch accent at best when he's not doing an ultra-scripted skit, still, has a Japanese wife and kids)
2. 2018-present Matt (hasn't had any significant contact with Japanese girls around his age after he started becoming asinine and autistic about pitch accent and reading the atmosphere in Terrace House)

[Anonymous No.]

>>21118641
中国人は犬だ

[Anonymous No.]

>>21118641
中華民國萬歲

[Anonymous No.]

>>21118667
you know there is 47 dialects and they all have different pitch accent anyways, just use shitty pitch and claim you're from yokohama or osaka and they'll probably never know

[Anonymous No.]

>>21118658
not to mention the forms of the kana themselves weren't even decided on until well into this past century

[Anonymous No.]

>>21118667
pics of lucas wife

i cant honestly imagine him in the vicinity of a female let alone have a wife lol

[Anonymous No.]

>>21118644
What’s the 助数詞 for your word counter though?

[Anonymous No.]

>>21118641
天安門

[Anonymous No.]

>>21118667
People who are gay
1. (you)

[Anonymous No.]

>>21118674
一定要解放台湾

[Anonymous No.]

>>21118686
2 わたし

[Anonymous No.]

>>21118685
消滅朱毛漢奸

[Anonymous No.]

>>21118692
三. 大家

[Anonymous No.]

>>21118679
I wish I had pics of her too, Lucas' wife is one of the Japanese natives who vetted Matt's near-native level Japanese ability.
Here's a pic of Adam's wife though

[Anonymous No.]

>>21118677
>Not to mention that Japanese people think the pitch accent of most dialects of Japanese sound bad, and Japanese people with non-standard pitch accent get ridiculed all the time. The only exception is kansai-ben. And if you want to actually speak kansai-ben, you are going to need pitch accent.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21118677
if ur nonwhite this will work pretty well desu lol

[Anonymous No.]

>>21118714
what do you mean? anybody can be japanese dont be a bigot

[Anonymous No.]

>>21118667
dont forget me, the former quizmaster's lackey, japanese gf of 2 years, doesnt give a fuck about pitch accent

[Anonymous No.]

>>21118721
well down towards yokohama theres lots of browns and alternative asians who are basically native japanese

[Anonymous No.]

>>21118722
she hates japan and japanese people though so

westaboos don't count desu

[Anonymous No.]

>>21118709
damn i hate being ridiculed for not having a japanese accent by *checks notes* the meekest and most polite race of people on the planet lmao

no nip is gonna be like "dude LMAO u said benkyou when it should have been BENkyou!!!" to a fucking gaijin no matter how well you know them

[Anonymous No.]

>>21118734
u obviously missed the vocaroo i posted where she was making fun of women who dont clean and make lunch every day for their husbands. shes not pozzed western! stay jealous!

[Anonymous No.]

Why is this a jouyou kanji? 椎
It's completely worthless and not used in any common words. Where it's used they are written in kana anyway.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21118742
椎茸 u noob havent u ever eaten a mushroom b4? go to any supermarket and u'll see that

[Anonymous No.]

>>21118739
man dont let her read ur posts dude

[Anonymous No.]

>>21118746
that shit is always written with katakana

[Anonymous No.]

>>21118739
enjoy little elliot

[Anonymous No.]

>>21118742
Get a load of this guy lmoa

[Anonymous No.]

>>21118746
u dont even have to go to the store i can just unzip for u

[Anonymous No.]

>>21118742
Because it’s a stupidly easy kanji to remember and the places where it’s used are made obvious by the radical.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21118749
do u think you have to say that my guy

[Anonymous No.]

>>21118735
Surely a Japanese person is less likely to say something to a foreigner about their pitch accent, but that no Japanese person, regardless of how well you know them, would ever say something about it, even in jest, is bs. and even if they don't directly say something about it it's not like they're not going to be noticing and judging it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21118695
Could it be an OS issue? I'm on Linux.

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>21118761
i didnt have a better way to express my disgust at that moment

[Anonymous No.]

>>21118764
wow u mean like how ppl hella notice when ppl talk like they are from literally anywhere else than where they are from ?? suggoi

[Anonymous No.]

>>21118775
dont worry m8 its all in good fun i dont actually think like that, i just know that weird anti-women dudes in this thread would probably find that attractive so they'll be seething

[Anonymous No.]

>>21118764
damn dude their gonna fuckin notice ur a foreigner.... thats wild... i put on all that yellow makeup for nothing

[Anonymous No.]

>>21118771
why didnt they write it in kana on the box thats bull shit japanese is impossible

>>21118785
i told u dude the japanese girlfriend thing doesnt get much mileage here i mean most of us have or have had them so its not really triggering

now if u went to /a/ or /v/ ud really get some ppl up in arms over it

[Anonymous No.]

>>21118785
What does it matter how proper your pitch accent is? No one is going to think you are Japanese so what is the point

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>21118801
delet this

[Anonymous No.]

i never trust a japanese woman who has straight teeth

[Anonymous No.]

>>21118784
no need for the cuntery. the point is acting like you a pitch accent from some other area is 無理

>>21118790
>I'm just gonna completely ignore the point of your post
ナイスパー！

[Anonymous No.]

>>21118801
muck donuts

[Anonymous No.]

>>21118816
>like you a
like you have a***

[Anonymous No.]

For me, it’s Chinese.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21118795
exactly, and if it’s too perfect you lose your gaijin pass

[Anonymous No.]

>>21118767
Maybe, I'm on Windows 7 and don't even use the DWM. I'm sure your window manager has some option related to this somewhere if it's the reason.

[Anonymous No.]

Japanese is the ultimate pleb filter desu

[Anonymous No.]

>>21118795
>what's the point
Japanese cringe when they hear other Japanese people pronounce words with the wrong pitch accent, and the same is true when they are listening to gaijin. It's ridiculous to say they "won't notice", when pitch can entirely change the meaning of words lol. Just because they can use context to grasp what word you meant to say, doesn't mean it doesn't take more effort for them to understand what you're saying. Japanese people would most definitely prefer to listen to someone with correct pitch accent than someone with incorrect pitch accent, assuming that all else is equal. Yes, Japanese people will put up with incorrect pitch accent, but that doesn't mean they "don't care".

[Anonymous No.]

>tfw taking Japanese classes starting this summer
See ya later dekinais