/DJT/「Daily Japanese Thread」第2139番

[Anonymous No.]

New guide:
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Previous Thread: >>21076803

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what yall reading

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>>21082384
halfway through よつばと vol. 1, picked learning japanese back up a few weeks ago. wbu

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>>21082384
I like my ufos.

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https://youtu.be/lvEVP7NPklU?t=64
did they hire one of you idiots to translate this song?

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Dunno where to ask this, but here I go
Where do I find raw chapters of manga?
I was reading 寄宿学校のジュリエット but vol.12 ended with a huge cliffhanger.
I don't think I can handle the wait until vol.13 is uploaded to torrent sites

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>>21081802
>I was wondering how you're not a nihongo god already
Because even though I read all the NHK Easy articles from 2017 up until now, the cold brutal fact is that NHK Easy is generally only N3 vocab and N4 grammar tops. Reading every NHK Easy article hasn't even gotten me to the point where I can understand little 3-5 year olds in my kindergarten. The only reason I can get through the games I listed (DQ, Zelda) is because the nature of reading allows me to go as slow or as fast as I want, rereading what I need to when I need to.

Reading NHK Easy definitely helped a lot but I'm not trying to kid myself or anything else, it's not a one-stop trip to fluency.

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>>21082424
nice. word/sentence farming or just looking up as you go? im reading this https://novel18.syosetu.com/n4883er/1/ and a CG set called ギャルママビッチにまかせなさい cause im feeling extra depraved today

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>>21082435
>Open video
>genki? genki. genki? genki! genki?

I couldn't stop laughing for a full minute

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Anybody got a clue where I can get hanahira/magical charming?
Nyaa doesn't have them, so I'm kinda stumped.

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>>21082431
sweet haha how far along are you

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>>21082724
Nyaa definitely has Hanahira because that's where I got it. Maybe, what was it, erogedownload or something

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>>21082814
O ye, eroge has hanahira, thanks a bunch.

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>>21082384
making my way thru dies irae

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>>21082384
GOSICK 1, but atm I'm kind of mentally down so I don't read much

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Some times when I read I run into words I saw in my core Anki deck and I feel because next time I see it in the deck it'd be cheating to say I remember it since I just got reminded of it a few days back.

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what is this ㍿ kanji?

yomichan can't read it but i found it on a japanese website

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>>21082995
Nigga it literally says "incorporated company" (as in stocks are for sale)

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>>21082988
it's supposed to be the other way around. why do you even care about this shit from an anki pov

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>>21083004
Because it's like: "do you remember this word you haven't seen in 7 days?" "yes but it's because I saw it 3 days ago and not 7 days ago"

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>>21082384
tate no yuusha no nariagari 3

i try to read along the episodes that air

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>>21082988
You're not cheating, you're just remembering the word. It's going to be fine. The more often you remember that word the more likely it's going to stay there permanent.
Also, extremely cute picture, or shall I say, "pigture"?

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>>21082995
㍿の英語
Co.、Ltd.; Co.、Ltd.; Inc.

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>>21083009
the point is that it doesn't matter as long as you understood the word when you read it in context. what you're saying is completely unimportant

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>>21082995
kek its literally a 4 kanji word compressed into a clusterfuck of fukkyou

株式会社

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>>21082995
its not a kanji it's something akin to the trademeark symbol. it's just a stamp like

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>>21082988
This will truly poison your pristine Anki stats in the long run. The only choice is to never expose yourself to Japanese outside of Anki to not mess with the interval.

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>>21082988
ankidrone problems, I had them too when I was in your shoes.

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is there a word for nudes like there is for normie(リア充)?

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the biggest trap people fall into with anki is the stats. i stopped looking at my stats when I realized I was caring more about my retention rate than actually learning the language. people keep saying they consider anki a tool but if you were building a cabinet or something, you wouldn't spend 3 hours sharpening the saw you're gonna use. don't put any more effort into anki than is necessary, don't fall into the meta trap either.

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>>21083065
No but there are a lot of people who would spend 3 hours picking the best saw for the job unaware that would have been done by the time they got home anyway.

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おはなみいった？

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This is just like
>grinding for 3 hours before a bossfight and tearing him a new asshole when you do fight him club
vs.
>fight boss until you beat him without grinding and do it with 1hp left club

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>>21082384
Going back over Matt's AJATT outline to make sure I'm not straying from the path too much. I think I've almost mastered meditation, but I want to make sure before I jump into Heiseg.

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>>21083082
the first one is more satisfying to me

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>>21082384
currently trying to find a way to hide my j-j dictionary files from my family pc. i really want to try to make the monolingual translation but im really scared that my dad is going to find out

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I first thought the guys name was Helsing, then Helsig and only now do I realize it's Heising

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>>21082384
Still slogging through Kira Kira. It's gotten a little better now that the story is finally getting started, but the heavy narration, and now in addition to that, endless exposition is still killing me.

The bit I just read had one of the characters explaining in excruciating detail what rock music is, then when that finally ended and I thought "at last, it's over" he went on to talking about punk music, then show a documentary to the other characters about punk music which was all explained through yet another wall of narration.

Getting through this sort of stuff with my slow reading speed is really painful and I'm struggling to keep going. The pacing is so slow and every scene so drawn out, and so much of the narration is riddled with completely inane drivel that doesn't make any difference to the story, or which is already obvious and doesn't need to be explained, and I'm just left thinking "Why do I have to sit through this? Get on with it already.". I think if I'm still not enjoying this by the end of today, I'm going to drop it and pick something else to read (seems a shame after the story finally got going but I'm just not enjoying it and it's making me not want to read).

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へいせいがおわるんだって

すごーい

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>>21082384
I'm watch-reading this with Japanese subs. It's pretty easy/fun for beginners.

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>>21083103
ケケリノ

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このスレ、もう平成っぽいな

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>>21082995
It's not a kanji. It's like ㍍ but with kanji.

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きのう？かいたよ

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>>21083118
なにこのいのかきかたなんだ

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昨日勉強したくなったから、今日はちょっと大変だな。五十漢字習わなきゃ。今RTKをしている。
俺はとても疲れったんだよ。
かんたん話の漫画もう知らないし、アニメ見てほしくないし、ちょっと迷い込んだ。
どうしよう?手伝ってくれない?

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>>21083147
ur japanese sucks stop making me read wrong stuff

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>>21083147
Don't type 俺は if you don't have to and you're good to go. Watch a drama instead of anime.

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>>21083155
fuck off shithead, let him be

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>>21083147
Input for 2 more years

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>>21083147
俺の日本語はも悪いでも毎日勉強してれば未来がとても素晴らしですね。

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>>21083074
A bit of a flawed comparison. It's more like people want to build a cabinet, pick a saw and then spend the next two years practicing sawing single pieces of wood and showing off how neatly they cut each piece and bragging about it to one another.

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>>21083183
matt-sanの仏頂面.jpg

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>>21083074
>>21083191
I think my original analogy got it done just fine tyvm

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>>21083192
we all start somewhere innit

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>>21082988
that 子piggy is cute af i wanna hug it so bad got damn（泣）

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>>21083205
yeah you're supposed to start in 2 years when you know enough japanese to know that what you're saying is just pure nonsense. this guys just gonna keep making the same dumb mistakes because he's ingrained it in himself

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>>21083183
かざん

じしん

つなみ

たいふう

そしてにほんを

きろくするためににほんごがいる

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>>21083217
i am the guy that wrote it lol. relax man thats the first sentence ive ever produced, i dont intend to move on from reading/watching anytime soon

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>>21083227
>relax man thats the first sentence ive ever produced
oh damn i couldnt tell

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>>21083232
then your faggot response was unwarranted wasn't it

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>>21083234
i was being sarcastic lol. u'll never learn japanese if you're that KY

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>>21083061
全裸写メ

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>>21083191
B-But what if I accidentally make an imperfect piece of wood for my cabinet!!!!! It has to be perfect!!!!

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another tough day at the japanese factory

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so uhh i'm thinking of doing RTK ha
well not really RTK but the "kanji" anki deck in the djt library, going from keyword & readings on front, to writing kanji correctly on back
i'm already pretty fluent (dont get triggered, not saying im perfect at all) and have probably seen every jouyou kanji in words i know but i sometimes mix some up and idk maybe i wanna be able to write for my own enjoyment i hope i'm not about to waste hella time pursuing this
anyone else did RTK or some kind of kanji writing practice after already knowing a lot of japanese?

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If I buckle down and don't alt tab I could finish anki this quickly every day instead of procrastinating and taking 20-30 minutes.

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>>21083278
if i were you i'd at least try to make stories in japanese when you do rtk. having weird english stories floating in your head is just going to be pointless

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solid op

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>>21083286
yeah i briefly thought about doing something like that! and it sounds like a good idea, i think i'll try it. thanks

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>>21083085
are you being serious lol if so you realize you can start studying while working on your meditation practice right
like what do you mean by "mastering" it, getting the basics down?

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>>21083091
lmao why dont you want your dad to find out

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>>21083256
How the fuck did you survive?

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Newby here. I had my first day of a Japanese language class that a local college provides, but I have a problem.

I don't know how to actually study. I graduated with a bachelor's about 2 months ago and I'm going to Japan in August, but I've never had to study in my life, or I have and wasn't aware of it.

So how do I study Japanese exactly? The guide doesn't really say. Anki is simple enough but what else? My teacher gave us phrases, months, letters, colors, etc, and I've learned a lot of the hiragana, but how do I study this shit? Do I just keep reading aloud these phrases until I can recall them in my sleep?

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>>21083360
https://itazuraneko.neocities.org/learn/guide.html

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>>21083360
Just watch anime bro

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what the fuck? i just finally finished core 10k after 10 years of studying so i could play my favourite visual novel, dies irae, in its original form. and i boot up the game and find out its all in latin? REEEEEEEE

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>>21083360
Do this >>21082663 and you'll be better than 100% of the other students in your class.

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Flashcards are studying. It's studying vocabulary, specifically. Go read simple shit like Yatsubato if you want to practice grammar or try actually using the Japanese you're learning by writing Japanese sentences. And go fucking learn Hiragana you lazy fuck. Do this over and over until you don't fuck up a single time. Then do it daily for like a week until it gets nailed in your head to the point that just looking at it makes the sound in your head without any effort. Then do the same thing for Katakana.

https://www.csus.edu/indiv/s/sheaa/projects/genki/hiragana-timer.html

You're not gonna know shit in 4 months, bro

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how am i supposed to read this shit?

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>>21083382
this one is much worse than the one on the guide
https://itazuraneko.neocities.org/learn/kana.html
you can practice recognition a lot quicker doing this

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>>21083386
damn i got owned

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>>21083360
>The guide doesn't really say.
If you read the guide and come out of it thinking this you are hopeless. Though, even if you did everything right you won't learn enough to do anything of use in Japan by August. Just learn phrases you need for stores and restaurants and call it a day if that's why you're learning it.

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>>21083378
>>21083384
its not supposed to be readable but u can cheat and use google

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>>21083407
>its not supposed to be readable

I'm pretty sure I can read a bit of the 5th line in this image: >>21083384 . I wish I could meet a cum creatura....

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if only i hadnt cheated on every latin exam i had in high school i might be able to read this text

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ace ventura 69 cum creatura

[Anonymous No.]

When did these threads just become bait?

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If you don't like how we choose to study Japanese by discussing cum creaturas and Latin, then maybe you don't deserve to be in this thread at all.

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>>21083360
>I graduated with a bachelor's about 2 months ago
>but I've never had to study in my life
Colleges have been watered down this much? Dang.

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>>21083430
Not him but can confirm, I only ever studied for a math class and that's only because I have a super high negative affinity for maths. College is a joke nowadays, they think giving you tons of busy work is the same as making you good at something.

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>>21083360
>I'm going to Japan in August
You're fucked.

>So how do I study Japanese exactly?
Read this: https://itazuraneko.neocities.org/learn/anon/alternativeguide.html
Do this: https://itazuraneko.neocities.org/learn/kana.html
Read this, but don't worry about memorizing any of it: https://itazuraneko.neocities.org/learn/anon/sakubi.html
Watch raw anime and read VNs. No translations. Use a Japanese-English dictionary to look up words you don't know*. For the first month, you may refer back to the grammar guide as necessary when you've forgotten something, but you should endeavor to stop using it as soon as possible. Don't spend too long on any given sentence. If you don't get it after a re-read or two, just move on. If what you're reading is boring, find something else. There's no practical difference between reading a 40,000 line VN and 5,000 lines of 8 different VNs. Don't expect any of this to be easy, but know that persistence will pay off.
If you read and listen enough (i.e. 6+ hours a day) over the next 2 years, you will be pretty good.

That's basically it.

*ITHVNR + https://sorashi.github.io/comprehensive-list-of-rikai-extensions/ will be very helpful here. For more info, see: https://itazuraneko.neocities.org/learn/guide.html#_Visual%20Novels

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>>21083430
にほんのがっこうは

３がつそつぎょうだよ

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>>21083447
this hasnt worked for anyone

if its worked for u @ this post w. proof

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>>21083360
When people say it takes 2 years of every day study to be halfway decent with the language they're not joking.

So first up you should bring back your expectations. 4 months are enough to get a foundation to actually start seriously studying from there on. I assume you're going to stay in Japan for longer and it's not just a vacation or some shit, or else you might as well not bother.

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Fuck you guys Benny said I could become fluent in 3 months so 4 months is plenty of time.

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>>21083458
Not that anon, but isn't thist basically ajatt?
There's loads of people that apparently managed with it.

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just shoot me!

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>>21082455
I've been going to comic days. They have a bunch of stuff there. I didn't even see Alita but it inspire me to read the manga. They have the whole thing there and Id say it's pretty good

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tfw benny tries to get fluent in japanese and fails miserably really like he did the previous 6 languages

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>>21083447
>Don't spend too long on any given sentence. If you don't get it after a re-read or two, just move on.
This is basically saying "don't try and learn stuff that you don't already know".
Seems kinda counter-intuitive.

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>>21083482
it literally doesnt matter just keep clickin

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>>21083487
the point is to get your brain used to reading. wasting 10 minutes trying to figure out something isn't helpful. concentrate on things you find easy to figure out and your knowledge will grow and the harder things will become easier things with time.

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>>21083487
thing is u r never in control of what u "know" in any given second and in the long run letting the incomprehensible go in favor of the comprehensible will eventually make the incomprehensible more comprehensible its incredible

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>>21083493
but then ill never understand it on more than a surface level

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>tfw experienced what "feel, don't think"" is and cant go back

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>>21083500
the dude himself didnt even know what he was writing there

its actually really cute and endearing its like dies irae was written by some high schooler lol

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>>21083416
I took latin classes for 4 years in highschool, had good grades but I don't understand anything either.

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this is boring today

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>>21083487
I'll concede that sometimes I'll ponder some statement for a longer period of time, mostly because I feel there is some underlying structural principle here that I would benefit from grasping. But overall you should not get hung up on the majority of things early on and make sense of it as best as you can without dissecting everything into all its constituent components.

I'm somewhat early intermediate now and I consciously focus on some parts of the things I read more than others. For instance in the past week I really focused on understanding some slang and contractions that I encounter more, because they're a pain to look up and I want to be sure I understand the components that go into building these.

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>>21083487
language learning is counter-intuitice

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>>21083544
life is never boring when ur a hentai gamer

ah they just dont make em like they used to

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Imagine being so retarded at Japanese that you can't even read 広義 after years of studying.

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its fine that u cant read it honestly the problem is when u think u can and read it wrong over and over again and dont realize how it sounds wrong when u say it cuz u dont know japanese LOL

i can only imagine that any time matt consumes anything its like that muramasa vid lmao

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im still not done lolling at this either

https://streamable.com/erhnw

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ANIME SPRING SEASON IS STARTING ARRRRRRRRGGGGGGGHHHHHHH

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>>21083246
>全裸写メ
thanks a lot!

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>>21083586
>day huah
How does that even happen?

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>>21083596
enjoy ur jc staff onepunch man LOL

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>>21083599
is it really a constant struggle for americans to not let their accent seep through like this?

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i like normie anime like SAO, AOT, all that shit. Feels good man

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>>21083603
Pleb.
https://youtu.be/nVj-aQD2ArY

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>>21083613
based

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>>21083613
ｔｂｈ whats even the point of watching shows like that when theres just actual hentai to watch instead

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>>21083618
It's art.

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>>21083618
hentai rarely has as much production value desu.

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btw im gonna watch the yu-no anime and get really mad over it its gonna suck so bad im not looking forward to it hopefully i can just talk myself out of it

>>21083621
idk dude thats not art 2 me art is more like the tugumomo or yuunasan animes

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>>21083568
life is amazing. but it got bored when i had this stupid idea of learning japanese a couple of months ago

[Anonymous No.]

Learning japanese has cured me from my chronic
depression

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>>21083487
I think people just aren't articulate enough to explain the benefits. Maybe they mean that you'll slowly get used to the most common structures which will eventually help you learn more intermediate/advanced structures, so encountering more common structures is more important than trying to rote memorize every intermediary structure you come across. I don't know because no one ever spells it out.

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>>21083653
learning japanese is giving me chronic depression

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>>21083663
U need more amphetamines intake

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>>21083659
it's actually just you being too dumb to grasp the idea nothing to do w/ anyone's articulation

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>>21083677
Sure but I'm saying nobody even tries to explain it. Probably because they can't.

[Anonymous No.]

Gotta learn how to senryu in this season

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>>21083598
youre welcome buddy

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wtf
its beyong boring today.
ill suggest topics for a healthy debate

- Matt
- Meditation
- RTK
- Anki
- Reddit

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I can't force myself to spend 5 minutes reviewing forgotten cards even though when I do, my retention the next day increases significantly. How can Anki be this fucking boring, it's unreal

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>>21083683
it's been explained many times.
see here in this very thread
>>21083495
>>21083499
it's pretty obvious that your brain is more willing to accept things you're ready for vs weird shit that requires layers of knowledge to grasp. you need to focus on climbing the bottoms layers rather than trying to start from the top and work your way down.

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>>21083733
you must be a redditfag if you even think that's up for debate

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>>21083733
>Matt
Bad.
>Meditation
Bad.
>- RTK
Bad.
>Anki
Good.
>Reddit
Bad.

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>>21083800
meditation isn't bad you weirdo you probably have trauma

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meditation is worthless except MAYBE if you spend 50 years reaching floor 50 of the mind illuminated

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>>21083804
isnt it the trauma of being born a man that makes you want to meditate in the first place?

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>>21083792
nah, reddit is even worse today.
woke up to a post of a guy complaining how 走る is 走らない instead of 走ない, since its obviously a verb ending in ru


>>21083800
please, gimme more

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>>21083733
>Matt
trash
>Meditation
cool but no 1 fuckin cares about u doing it stfu
>RTK
more like rtgay
>Anki
killin the calvins of the world since '06 ironically the same year haruhi anime came out and also killed anime forever
>Reddit
go back there it is ur home

conclusion: わたしはゲイ

[Anonymous No.]

Meditation making you better at learning is a joke. However meditation can work to calm down anxiety and if you're a person with high anxiety it might be worth trying it out. You can learn to consciously calm yourself down at least.

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>>21083831
I almost thought people fell for the bait with the meditation shit, but I think i was wrong.

at least your reply is longer than the other anon

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>>21083824
People here still recommend that shitty grammar guide that calls them ru-verbs, so it's not like this place is any better.

[Anonymous No.]

how do u say namaste in japanese ?

[Anonymous No.]

meditating for 5-10 minutes before you start your daily study/content consumption is beneficial for focus in m'opinion

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>>21083860
i dont see why it matters u quickly stop givin a fuck about it as a concept if u learn any amount of japanese

>>21083865
great https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xVzK79undb0

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>>21083865
3 hours for 5 years minimum or you'll end up like calvin

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>>21083861
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SnfJCYGTdQY

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>>21083868
we listen to your 10k anime spiel every day but your fuse is this short when it comes to a different topic? no can do chief

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>>21083884
problem is 10k anime is actually a japanese language thing

not gonna let ur apples to oranges shit slide today friendo get ur posts in the trash can thats mando https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YcSIurVQcRs

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>>21083897
i'll get right on that as soon as i do some meditating

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>>21083868
If you call them ru-verbs you can't complain that people think that name is descriptive. Just call them ichidan and stop being retarded.

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>>21083902
at least u cant post while ur meditating namaste my dude : )

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>>21083907
i think ur just being a weeb here

4 example some of the best piano players in the world dont even call the keys by their note letter they just call them numbers

as long as u know how to use the keys to play it doesnt matter what u call them and starting out learning japanese its no different

when u become a bit more proficient as to be able to study grammar in japanese then u should know what a ichidan (or ichidon as matt calls them) verb is and how its different from the other dan (don) verbs

but that shits not mando to run the operation

[Anonymous No.]

what does 言ってくる mean?

[Anonymous No.]

行ってくる～

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>>21083977
言ってくる
vk KireiCake
to come or arrive and (then) say (commonly misinterpreted for the reverse)

行ってくる
vk KireiCake
I'm off
see you later
to go (and then come back)

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>>21084000
That's an insult to my intelligence,nice trips
>>21084009
Thanks I guess ,where did you get that

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>>21084025
yomichan + kireicake

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ただいま～

>>21084025
i was just making a statement my tendies were ready so i went to go get them but i have returned

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>>21083555
>For instance in the past week I really focused on understanding some slang and contractions that I encounter more, because they're a pain to look up and I want to be sure I understand the components that go into building these.
If you're having trouble with text in colloquial style, do more listening.

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>>21084030
>kireicake
That's pretty nifty, cheers.

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>>21083659 >>21083683
here you go: https://streamable.com/8t39u

[Anonymous No.]

>>21084030
I never got custom dictionaries for yomichan,I just use it to make my mining anki deck,they're great if they help but they seem too much like a bother

[Anonymous No.]

Apparently an old story, but since I just stumbled over it:

How true/false is it?

[Anonymous No.]

Where do you guys download Japanese music if it's not on nyaa?

[Anonymous No.]

i don't listen to japanese music

[Anonymous No.]

>>21084107
Animebytes, Redacted, Jpopsuki

[Anonymous No.]

>>21084107
haaha gl m8, takes me hours to find some albums and sometimes I have to just cave and buy them. Torrenting is very anti japanese culture.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21084103
but this one is on yomichan page with the other dictionaries. i dont see it as "custom".

[Anonymous No.]

https://youtu.be/vFVOl713Fhw

> I wonder if there is a future where I will make breakfast for someone.

[Anonymous No.]

If it's just 星の声 why when they translate it do they add 'distant'? Why don't they ever translate things correctly?

[Anonymous No.]

>>21084103
>>21084122

dekinai

[Anonymous No.]

>go to japan
>cook american style hamburger
>cook american style spaghetti
>cook a chicago/newyork style hotdog
>blow everybody's minds with basic shit
this is how I envision it going down

[Anonymous No.]

>>21084137
Translations are weird in many languages. Example: An English movie is published in Germany, with an English title, but it's a different title than the English original title.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21084135
stop watching vids made for lonely creeps and make a girl wanna make u breakfast idiot

but trust me 3d isnt all its *snorts* cracked up to be

[Anonymous No.]

>>21084120
I didn't know AB has music, heh. That will do for now. Can't be arsed to get into and manage additional trackers though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21084137
>>21084166
if u translate 星の声 directly to english is actually boring as hell much more so than leaving it in japanese so in order to make it a more appealing title some liberties must be taken

[Anonymous No.]

>>21084150
You just exposed that you don't listen to any of the underground real shit if you think it's easy to get.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21084179
like what?

[Anonymous No.]

commas throw me off in japanese half the time is that bad?

[Anonymous No.]

>>21084153
the reality: everything u make both looks like and tastes like shit and ur just gonna enjoy superior nippon cuisine

[Anonymous No.]

>>21084187
not really cuz commas arent like english commas that follow rules the author can literally put a comma wherever and force u 2 respect their dictation

[Anonymous No.]

>>21084153
isn't japanese food really good and they'll probably laugh at you?

[Anonymous No.]

>>21084124
what the fuck dude I HAVE IT TOO WHAT THE FUCK

[Anonymous No.]

>>21084193
yea i guess that's a good way to put it. it seems completely random sometimes. but i know i have to get better and the flow will make more sense.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21084009
>to come or arrive and (then) say (commonly misinterpreted for the reverse)
LOL wtf is this. that's not what it means

[Anonymous No.]

>>21084196
Have you seen all of the videos of women making hamubaagaa for their guys and they fuck it all up? They pretty much just cook a meat paddy and put it on rice. They don't know how to season it right, or how to add vegetables and bread, or even grill onions etc. My burgers would be light years beyond anything I've seen them make.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21084224
Haven't you seen all the videos of certain americans doing stupid shit?
They must all be rarted.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21084196
The problem is rather that Western food really doesn't match their tongue.
They think it's way too 塩っぱい. Okay for once in a while, but not regularly.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21084243
twice on terrace house they made shitty burgers, then tenchimu, then nanako. That's 0 for 4 on burgers. I realize they would destroy me at seafood and tons of other dishes but it's good to know I have a few tricks up my sleeve for them when I get there too.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21082384
Baldr Sky

[Anonymous No.]

>>21084224
lol japanese style hamburger isn't the same as american, but they have american style shit too. the best tasting burgers ive ever had where in tokyo. it has some of the best food in the world and they know how a good burger tastes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21084270
i see what you mean now. the average person will be surprised and impressed by decently prepared food from other cultures. good luck buddy.

but japan is pretty gay and there's no reason to go there

[Anonymous No.]

>>21084282
Damn I was afraid of that. I know when I was there I didn't see any decent burgers except for burker king and mcdonalds. They had pretty good pizza though. They had 100+ toppings to pick from which was fun.

[Anonymous No.]

what does -なさい in something like "真剣で私に恋しなさい！"? every time I see な I immediately think it's negative but it's not

[Anonymous No.]

>>21084293
http://tokyobestburgers.com/
ive been to a few of these. u cant compete m8

[Anonymous No.]

>>21084296
it's a command

[Anonymous No.]

>>21084296
have u ever tried using google lol. you'd literally get 10000 explanations in english just googling しなさい

[Anonymous No.]

>>21084215
feel free to correct then.
just by saying its not what it means and laughing makes you look stupid.
so please go ahead and correct it

[Anonymous No.]

>>21084296
watch more anime

[Anonymous No.]

>>21084179
>>21084184
im still waiting

[Anonymous No.]

>>21084301
They know whats up then.. so much for the dream. But still at least I know how to make those myself and I"m sure some friends would appreciate it at a food party.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21084305
thank you very much

>>21084312
I prefer using djt search engine, it's rewarding to have someone explain my specific problem, like I have a teacher always there, it keeps me motivated to keep learning.

>>21084319
I'll start watching more anime in about a week

[Anonymous No.]

>>21084312
it's used to signify who's speaking to who. 言ってくる means someone is talking to the speaker. it generally has nothing to do with physical movement.

「そのザマじゃ溺れちまうだけだろうが、まあ何でも試してみるのはいいことだ」

こちらの思考を読んだように、ふざけた調子で言ってくる。

basically "as if he had read what i was thinking he jokingly said towards me [quotation]."

[Anonymous No.]

>>21083085
>Matt's AJATT outline
Stop sticking with that old shit and start with Matt's latest reading-focused method
https://massimmersionapproach.com/table-of-contents/stage-0/balanced-path-overview/
Unless you want a proper Japanese accent
https://massimmersionapproach.com/table-of-contents/stage-0/perfectionist-path-overview/

[Anonymous No.]

>>21084316
>>21084345
quoted wrong person

[Anonymous No.]

>>21083733
>- Matt
good
>- Meditation
feels like a waste of time right now
>- RTK
good
>- Anki
good
>- Reddit
bad

[Anonymous No.]

I could understand this sentence without guessing through help of djt shit posting.
https://youtu.be/HwLF785weFU?t=80

[Anonymous No.]

>>21082384
don't post rick and morty ever again

[Anonymous No.]

>>21084353
no, i didnt. i quoted the right person.

and im still waiting for the corrected non laughable version of what I said.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21083733
>- Matt
hit and miss, necessary evil
>- Meditation
good when you're young and retarded
>- RTK
lazy kanji might be better, keyword to kanji is still up for debate imo
>- Anki
good, but addicting, and it's necessity is questionable
>- Reddit
nope.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21084380
you're dumb. i was directing you to the response in which i quoted the wrong person.

[Anonymous No.]

how tf do I meditate consistently? I can’t go more than ~10 consecutive days meditating

[Anonymous No.]

>>21084410
close ur eyes open ur mouth and concentrate on sucking nirvana out of this tube

[Anonymous No.]

>>21084410
just give up and do something actually worthwhile. meditation practitioners suffer from a selection bias. people who are more intelligent, patient, and already likely to succeed are more likely to be able to meditate for extensive periods of time.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21084122
>>21084179
It doesn't even have to be underground, I can't find this single with 18 million views on youtube.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_2quiyHfJQw

[Anonymous No.]

>>21084389
so you quote the wrong person and I am the one who is dumb?

and I agree with you. Not only the speaker, but also a narrator in case it is trying to convey empathy towards a character.

but are you sure there are no way that entry could be correct? i was under the impression that was exactly the meaning on the dialog the anon posted

[Anonymous No.]

>>21083861
挨拶しおう

[Anonymous No.]

>>21084456
ima smack u boy

[Anonymous No.]

>>21084440
>so you quote the wrong person and I am the one who is dumb?
one is a misclick and the other is you failing to understand the situation. seems more dumb to me
>but are you sure there are no way that entry could be correct? i was under the impression that was exactly the meaning on the dialog the anon posted
you read it wrong then. there's no physical movement in that scene.

the entry is not correct because it has one singular definition that implies that's what it always means. it doesn't always mean that and most of the time it just means that dialogue was directed towards the speaker.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21084461
噓じゃない；本当です。
＞ナマステ (サンスクリット語: नमस्ते, namaste) は、インドやネパールで交わされる挨拶の言葉である。
source: wikipedia

[Anonymous No.]

>>21084387
>keyword to kanji is still up for debate imo
I finished both RTK and RTH using keyword to kanji.
If you can't do that, it's just the fact that you're either retarded or impatient (most likely both).

[Anonymous No.]

>>21084484
why is it always the people who know the least japanese who post in japanese in these threads

[Anonymous No.]

i know the answer to this one

https://streamable.com/f43ix

[Anonymous No.]

>>21084296
DJT is not your personal Japanese-English dictionary.

https://jisho.org/

[Anonymous No.]

>>21084470
i dont agree with the dumb part of your message, but i appreciate your explanation on 言ってくる

[Anonymous No.]

>>21084507
next time im not going to explain anything and just laugh at you dekinais using some retard custom dictionary

[Anonymous No.]

>>21084352

[Anonymous No.]

for the next 5 mins i will be ur personal japanese - english dictionary

i will only respond to posts that are 1 line long

bring ur shit muppets

[Anonymous No.]

>>21084107
jpopsuki, rutracker or tbp

[Anonymous No.]

>>21084489
the part that's up for debate is the effectiveness not the difficulty, bad comprehension skills are you sure you're not retarded?

[Anonymous No.]

>>21083360
Use vocabulary you've learnt to build sentences. Start off with some basic stuff, like "My name is...", "I often do ....", "Do you like ...?", "Do you prefer x or y?"
Gradually try to make more and more complex grammatical constructions. Think of describing things, or asking people about stuff, or even hypothetical situations.
You could even try writing short stories about a day in some fictional character's life.

[Anonymous No.]

If I know that a sentence is formed a certain way but don’t know why, should I force myself to understand why?

[Anonymous No.]

>>21084616
yeah you shouldn't look at anything else until you completely understand each sentence you see

[Anonymous No.]

>>21084616
dont understand why*

[Anonymous No.]

ooh im scared

[Anonymous No.]

>>21084513
i didn't post but i appreciate the correction. i had no idea.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21084616
Nope. Language is not like maths. Grammatical constructions are mostly the product of habit, not of a priori logical principles.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21084638
its too bad every1 memed dies irae to be some sort of literary epic when it really just sounds retarded most of the time

[Anonymous No.]

eroge ben made a fucking update video i am so hyped

[Anonymous No.]

literally who ?

[Anonymous No.]

i can only assume the ginger hair guy

[Anonymous No.]

>>21084720
yea him

[Anonymous No.]

why not just post the vid

[Anonymous No.]

https://youtu.be/pfWz0vWfJog

it's not polite to post vids without permission

[Anonymous No.]

that vid is fuckin 2 hours long this shit aint happenin compadre

ill be here for the timestamps

[Anonymous No.]

11:21 claims his comprehension is only at 80% after 12 months of reading all day every day and 7 months of a lot more listening. say it aint so bros this shit takes forever.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21084669
I thought everyone memed dies irae cause it was retardedly hard to read.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21084799
>12 months of reading all day every day
Do these people not have jobs or something.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21084804
nah it's not particularly hard. definitely a lot easier to understand than muramasa

[Anonymous No.]

>>21084107
Try rutracker. They have pretty much every piece of content ever made on there. It's nuts.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21084816
Some of us are struggling with hanahira right now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21084799
any time someone claims they understand a relative amount of everything cut a quarter off that and its probably about right

[Anonymous No.]

>>21084423
http://rutracker.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=5546411

case in point for rutracker

[Anonymous No.]

>>21084831
80% after 21 months feels like a way more reasonable estimate than the dudes who listen to incomprehensible input for 12 months, barely read, and then claim they understand "90% of everything". like that light skinned black dude with the crazy hair.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21084815
if u work a 9-5 ur a chump just straight up homie

[Anonymous No.]

>>21084839
i think all those claims are bad in the 1st place but the reason i say to chop a quarter of that off is to compensate for things they think they understand but dont actually and havent found out they werent understanding it right

and really im being generous with that

[Anonymous No.]

>>21084835
Thanks, but that's only the instrumental version of the song. They don't have the single as far as I can tell.

[Anonymous No.]

how is 開く pronounced?
あくor ひらく?

[Anonymous No.]

>>21084843
Ah, that's unfortunate. But in any case, you can find a lot of stuff on there. They even have a fuckton of VNs I couldn't find on nyaa

[Anonymous No.]

你太黑了！

[Anonymous No.]

Is Nagatoro-san suitable, difficulty wise, as the second manga to read?
I just finished Yotsuba.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21084843
i downloaded the album that has the vocal ver of that song as is in the vid u linked and its actually not a bad album

thx

[Anonymous No.]

>>21084858
Just try it and see. You'll know within 20 minutes of reading if it works for you with more accuracy than what we can tell you. Asked the same question and got the same answer and it was right tbqh

[Anonymous No.]

What's up with the nigger speak and underage in this thread?
Seriously try ctrl+f "u" and you get more than 1000 results, fucking hell.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21084858
if u like it ur gonna power up and figure it out

if u dont ur gonna drop it and come back to us

[Anonymous No.]

>>21084867

[Anonymous No.]

>>21084867
go back to /pol/, /pol/ has the n-word

[Anonymous No.]

>>21084867
因为黑鬼

[Anonymous No.]

>>21084867
i ctrl fd that and it only comes back to ur post nice self own

[Anonymous No.]

>>21084879
贾马尔黑鬼

[Anonymous No.]

>>21084843
just use redacted

[Anonymous No.]

>>21084879
>>21084893
If there is a DMT, I suppose that's on /int/.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21083360

[Anonymous No.]

>>21084916

[Anonymous No.]

中国語を話すは止めてください。

[Anonymous No.]

死ぬまで息を止めてください

[Anonymous No.]

>>21084846
correct

[Anonymous No.]

>>21082384
cleaning up a few branches and the normal ending in nanoha's route in baldr sky, then moving on to chinatsu's.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21084945
So, both pronunciations are correct, but they have a slightly different meaning and when reading you would find out the correct one from context, is that it?

[Anonymous No.]

>>21082384
nothin cuz readings for nerds lol

[Anonymous No.]

>>21084933
>>21084936
>>21084944
不！这是现在中国这是现在！！！

[Anonymous No.]

>>21084962
ask me again in 7 minutes i have to do some research

[Anonymous No.]

>>21084962
i wouldnt exactly say its context or slightly different meaning

consider this retardation in english

u can open a box it opens

but u just move a door but still call it opening

doesnt really make sense huh why do we do this

u do in fact open the doorway but the door itself never opens

[Anonymous No.]

>>21084910
>>21084933
>>21084936
>>21084944

不！这是现在中文穿线！！！

[Anonymous No.]

>>21084962
あく is an intransitive verb but ひらく can be both transitive and intransitive (ie it takes a grammatical object or does not). that's the major difference between the two.

there is a more subtle difference that relates to how the object is being opened, and basically ひらく is more about revealing the contents of something while あく is more about creating a space between two things to make an opening. but often they can be used interchangeably and only with certain things does it sound strange to use one in particular (ie you don't あく a 本 but you can ひらく or あく a 窓).

[Anonymous No.]

*hirakus butt cheeks and unleashes a sugoi kusaikaze*

[Anonymous No.]

>>21085003
>>21084985
thanks

[Anonymous No.]

*actually gives out a 'fun'*

[Anonymous No.]

>>21082700
looking up as I go, trying it out b/c of the study I saw in last thread about unfamiliar word encounters. is reading エロ really helping your fluency? i can imagine the same vocab gets recycled after awhile.

[Anonymous No.]

*walks into djt*

[Anonymous No.]

Why are manga raws are so much harder to find than translations?
I didn't think about it before taking up japanese, but some mangas are really impossible to find for some reason
I tried bringing up this question in /a/ a few times but no one ever responds

[Anonymous No.]

>>21085176
Piracy is frowned upon in Japan and the main people that would be downloading raws are natives so do the math

[Anonymous No.]

>>21082367
How the bloody hell do I get voracious to play both English and nip subs? I've ripped the English subs to an .srt file but still get nothing

[Anonymous No.]

>>21085178
When I leech through p2p I mostly connect with japanese IPs most of the time. I think they pirate a lot of the stuff.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21085178
Ok, but even then. for manga to be translated, the originals must be acquired somehow, right?
Why aren't they uploaded around then

[Anonymous No.]

>>21085176
nobody on /a/ reads manga so it's no wonder that you wouldn't get a reply. that having been said i don't usually have much trouble finding what i'm looking for, but stuff that's newer and more obscure will be less readily available.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21085176
they cant just post them out in the open dude lol

lol if u dont have exclusive sftp access to the manga stashbox

[Anonymous No.]

>>21085178
And yet VNs get cracked.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21085192
>the originals must be acquired somehow, right?
Is the concept of buying something foreign to you?
>Why aren't they uploaded around then
Maybe it's not their thing or they dont want to fuck the authors out of earnings from their primary customer base. Foreigners wouldnt buy the raws anyways. Fuck if I know tbqh

[Anonymous No.]

>>21085201
china usually does it just fyi

[Anonymous No.]

>>21085192
Because they're cheap as fuck.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21085207
The work by the chinese is really underrated. Based chuugokujin doing gods work.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21085220
honestly its more worth to just learn chinese cuz everything good and everything in general gets translated to chinese anyway and ull be ready for the new world order its basically epic win-epic win

[Anonymous No.]

>>21085202
>Maybe it's not their thing or they dont want to fuck the authors out of earnings from their primary customer base
It could be that, but I the idea of moral pirates sound stupid to me. Translation takes time, so it would make sense if they uploaded the raws and then translation when they are finished
I think they don't do it due to epeen contest with other translators and the fact that nobody in general gives a fuck
It's obvious if you see how raw torrents die really fast and that nobody even bothers uploading them most of the time in animebytes

[Anonymous No.]

Is 信じてないな a double negation or an emphasized negation?
Don't not believe me?

[Anonymous No.]

>>21085244
The last な is only there for flavour, like a *sigh*.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21085244
that na could directed towards the speaker himself.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21084799
iirc he posted a few months ago about the things he has read in the discord and it was less than his videos would have you believe

[Anonymous No.]

>>21085249
>>21085252
Ah, okay, so it is just emphasis/flavour then.
Thanks.

[Anonymous No.]

/djt/
Expectations: Let us discuss the intricate aspects of the Japanese language.
Reality: Matt Matt Matt Matt Matt Matt

[Anonymous No.]

>>21085244
な only negates on the 終止形 of a verb するな - dont do. other than that it's not a negation. (and when used with the 連用形 it's actually a command, しな)

[Anonymous No.]

>>21085301
not exactly the best time to post that congrats on revealing its u w. the problem + ur bad at baiting

[Anonymous No.]

>>21085301
most of the people in here realise that theres nothing we can offer each other. you can just google every problem you have and find a solution, so it's better to just memepost.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21085309
tl: watch 10000 hours of eng subbed anime

[Anonymous No.]

>>21085309
Oh, I didn't even notice that.
I was wondering how you were supposed to differentiate between the two apart form the tone.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21085350
is this what happens when you feel and don't think?

[Anonymous No.]

>>21085321
this. every time i ask people who hate the current state of djt what they want this thread to be they don't even respond. maybe they don't bother giving specifics because they know they'll get meme'd on for anything they list but they should at least try.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21085396
ive turned these threads into more or less what i want

これでよく満足したな

[Anonymous No.]

>>21085249
>>21085252
nice, that's what i thought it was but didnt say anything cause im shit
>>21085301
every time somebody asks an actual question they get at least 1, and usually more, responses

[Anonymous No.]

very topical

[Anonymous No.]

shit i posted the wrong file.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21085465
>>21085470
ｌまお

[Anonymous No.]

>>21084365
??? that’s not rick and morty dude that’s reigen from mob psycho

[Anonymous No.]

>>21084387
>- Meditation
>good when you're young and retarded

makes absolutely no sense, older people need it most you guys are depressed and anxious about everything

[Anonymous No.]

>>21084422
shut uppp you have no idea what you’re talking about and you’ve never even done it like seriously don’t speak on stuff you don’t know anything about shhh

>>21084410
are you doing the mind illuminated or some other method?

[Anonymous No.]

>>21085301
I started reading in 2017 and this thread has been a big aid in my eroge adventures since then. Don't talk this thread down or else...!

[Anonymous No.]

>he keeps posting Dies irae screenshots pretending to understand them

[Anonymous No.]

>>21085520
i've never been to the moon but i know that rockets work

[Anonymous No.]

>>21085512
ok zoomer

[Anonymous No.]

the meditation tranny has logged the fuck on

[Anonymous No.]

>>21085504
isnt that the japanese rick and morty ?

[Anonymous No.]

>>21085525
dat anon prolly nose mo nihongo than u

[Anonymous No.]

>>21085520
>method
i just sit down, close my eyes and try to only think of my breathing and nothing else. is there more to it i'm missing?

[Anonymous No.]

>>21085525
umm i even said i dont understand any latin lol :)

the japanese ones are all easy to understand tho

[Anonymous No.]

>>21085525
dude dont fuckin shit on dies irae guy

hes the only 1 posting anything worthwhile in this thread

[Anonymous No.]

>>21085534
私（わたくし）は本物の日本人様ですよ、害人くん。

[Anonymous No.]

>>21085541
why do you want this place to be google images?

[Anonymous No.]

>>21085061
1. recycled vocab is good, means it’s gonna get solidified more
2. many of the vocab gains come from the scenarios setting up the ero (which can be wide and varied) rather than the sex scenes themselves

[Anonymous No.]

>>21085549
cuz its better than yalls posting

[Anonymous No.]

>>21085562
that's insulting and frankly just silly

[Anonymous No.]

>>21085549
how am i posting 'images'? im posting carefully selected extracts of japanese text that correspond to the mood of the thread. it's hard work

[Anonymous No.]

>>21085396
>>21085321
the thing is the thread was already going pretty good before that guy brought up matt again... like people were giving advice and sharing what they’ve been reading etc

[Anonymous No.]

>>21085567
dont cry about it just do a better job

[Anonymous No.]

>>21085361
It's funny because 蟻走感 is the only word I didn't know because I was thinking too much.

[Anonymous No.]

やっぱりマット先生が好き
日本語を学んだりすると決めたから今までマット先生以外の人を好きになろうと努力したんですが、やっぱり駄目でした。
どうすればいいのです？

[Anonymous No.]

dies irae guy 続けてください

[Anonymous No.]

>>21085587
殉じる

[Anonymous No.]

>>21085580
honestly I've been contemplating migrating to /int/djt for a while, for this reason
It's not as comfy as /jp/ but atleast there is some peace from matt this matt that
I'm following both threads for now, I reckon many djters already moved over

[Anonymous No.]

>>21085536
yeahh there is a lot more to it than that actually. the details are pretty 肝心.
1. are you “thinking about” the breath, or is your attention directly on the sensation of the breath moving in and out at your nostrils?
2. what do you do when a distracting thought pops up? do you try to shove it out? do you feel irritated/annoyed by it?

[Anonymous No.]

>>21085600
悪口禁止

[Anonymous No.]

yosh

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fHiGbolFFGw#t=252

[Anonymous No.]

It's a common theme for people on DJT to fetishize the posting of reading material. But when you think about it, if what you like is posts people make about the media they're consuming, why not say read threads actually about that media rather than a thread about learning Japanese? The answer is that there is no reason not to except habit. And once you realize that, you can be free of DJT. That's really the key transition here. Realizing what you actually like to read isn't DJT, it's posts about visual novels, about games, about light novels, etc, and going to threads about those things instead of DJT.

Because at the end of the day, the core of DJT is Matt and Anki and so on. Not media. And if it's not Matt and Anki and so on that you care about, there's no reason to come here.

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djt is not what u think it is

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>>21085622
>no reason to come to djt apart from anki and matt
I think you're forgetting what the j in djt stands for mate.

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>>21085636
jamal?

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>>21085644
>>21085636

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>>21085622
don't agree with the matt+anki part but the media part is spot on

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>>21085666
I struggled to word it properly but the idea I was trying to get is "topics extraneously related to learning Japanese", which I think is accurate.

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>>21085587
切腹、腹切、自殺？

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>>21082384
Started to read スコップ無双 LN

[Anonymous No.]

damn that guy was right. cant understand anything in this dense philosophical text cause it's, like, really dense philosophical text

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>>21085679
ふざけないでください！
真面目に答えなければキレるから…………

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>>21085765

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>>21085778
i dont get it

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>>21085778
also not seeing the significance of posting this right now

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>>21085361
I learned all four of those words in porn novels lel. Japan is epic.

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>>21085783
>>21085788
Looks like we got some corn cobs here

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>>21085794
Yo very kewl tomogaki. I was thinking about getting it myself especially since it's just 10 euro in my area.

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>>21085794
looks like ur ready to make some flashcards boyo

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>>21085804

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>>21085778
i can only assume that ur mad because you really want to play dies irae but you're not quite there yet or something lol. dont worry its not actually that hard you should just try it m8

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>>21085824
is the story good

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>>21085836
idk it's pretty edgy. i think it's cool so far tho

[Anonymous No.]

dies irae is just a gay stupid game and doesnt even have good ero

[Anonymous No.]

but fear not ive found a better visual game than dies irae

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>>21084742
1:02:28
>I've gotten into the habit of skipping sentences if I see no new words in them without actually reading them
OK these guys are fucking ridiculous honestly

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>>21085882
lmao behold aidsjatt

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>>21085882
lmaoooooooo

[Anonymous No.]

i dont understand this dude basically lost his whole mind over pitch accent hahah

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>>21085882
Ok I'll agree with this but skipping H-scenes is a must do to become fluent.

[Anonymous No.]

bitch accent

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>>21085882
These people are hilarious.

[Anonymous No.]

tbf if you watch that section it sounds like he at least knows it's retarded and is trying not to do it

[Anonymous No.]

>>21085882
gotta catch em all dude

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2714T_k2B1U

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>>21085794
I'm jealous!

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>>21084742
Nigga this bitch has a purple room.

Bitch living inside Grimace from mcdonalds.

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>>21085910
why? I've learned a lot of words just with doujins on sadpanda
the important part is not fapping, even with a hard-on

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>>21083278
Yeah, doing something like that should do wonders when it comes to not mixing stuff up. Just remember to never study the cards the other way round.

[Anonymous No.]

wow this guy knows a few puns in japanese he must be sick

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>>21083278
RTK is way easier to do if you already know japanese words associated with a kanji so go for it.

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>>21085931
i respect the attempt here but r u really gonna hate on a dude whose room looks painted in sizzurp ?

i mean hes just tryin to do it like the best

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qeIm6CeenAg#t=13

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>>21085943
>the important part is not fapping
Please tell me how to do that

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>>21085824
To マジレス somewhat I actually have been reading eroge in Japanese for like 5 years, and read Dies irae at the 1 year point-ish. I ended up pretty unhappy by the end because seriously the game can get pretty fucking hard to understand and a lot of it went over my head. Like, the common route's one step removed from standard murder mystery stuff, sure, not that hard at all, but once it gets going it can be really tough to fully understand and appreciate. It's pretty easy to go "think not feel" and then miss almost everything, scraping by with narrow comprehension without necessarily realizing how much is going over your head. About half of the ３つ巴 scene and buildup went in one ear and out the other for me and I was in a constant state of "I kindaaa get it?" which is not really the mood you want to be in. I ultimately re-read Dies years later and had a much better time, it was really apparent how much I had missed. I really wish I had just waited to read it when I was good at Japanese rather than just winging a playthrough when I wasn't ready.

With all that said I'm just giving this guy a hard time for laughs. Posting memes and getting memes in return, it's all good fun. I don't know his actual skill level and even if he's not understanding anything, sure, that's okay. It's just a game. And even when not understanding the plot or dialogue well, the music and presentation is cool enough to keep things going. So it can still be a positive experience. I'm not mad in the least, I'm glad he's reading Japanese and getting better. It can be a little sad to see newbs underestimate just how much their bad Japanese is fucking with games, but I'm not lame enough to get sincerely bothered by people using their free time to play things they're excited about.

tl;dr It's just banter m8

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didnt read lol

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>>21085968
The Dies Irae guy has been learning Japanese for like a decade and lived in Japan. His Japanese isn't bad, enough to understand Dies Irae but for the time he has been learning he is pretty bad.

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>>21085961
What's devoicing? I don't want to watch 2 hours of that guy.

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>>21086003
prolly the act of making input less comprehensible

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>>21085989
Oh really? I don't stick around here much so I am uninformed. To quote the original post:
> I just got through my first cycle of every card in Wareya's VN Core deck over the course of 3 weeks. My Masada World Box also just arrived. I haven't studied any grammar before.
I interpreted this as him having started learning Japanese about 3 weeks ago. Yeah if he's got a decade of experience then whatever, fuck me. If he's still benefiting from beginner vocab decks somehow then he'll probably be BTFO by the vocabulary and whatnot though.

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>>21085989
stop stalking me! also according to my records i started doing RTK on august 19th 2011 so i started learning only 7 years and 7 months ago.

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>>21086013
lmaooo i cant believe you got baited that hard. i just posted the dies irae shit in reply to that guy to make it seem like i was him

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>>21086003
sometimes the vowel sound in a mora isn't pronounced fully in a word. like the u is dropped in takusan so it's pronounced taksan. happens a lot with words that have shi too where the i is dropped.

[Anonymous No.]

this threads gone to the dogs

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>>21084742
If this dude's been ajatt'ing the whole time since his last video (8 months ago), why hasn't he made the switch to MIA?

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>>21086024
Ohh right that makes sense, I didn't know there was a word for that.

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>>21086003
Devoicing means not using voice (vibrating vocal cords) when making sounds. Mostly applies to vowels as they don't have devoiced variants like consonants commonly do, effectively producing whispered vowels. (This is false >>21086024)

>>21086013
Can't find that original post in this thread. The guy posted his life story in the tranny chat so you wouldn't know from here anyway.

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>>21086024
>>21086036
Oh and I forgot to say, thanks for the explanation.

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>>21086041
Oh right, shit, now I don't know what to believe.

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>>21086041
>Can't find that original post in this thread.
Yeah, it was a bit ago.
>>/jp/thread/S21054462#p21058958

[Anonymous No.]

Compared to 2 years ago, the number of phone apps to learn beginner Japanese that are actually decent is incredible: Lingodeer for grammar and drops for vocabulary, kisslingo and clozemaster seems good for intermediate and with the abundance of free grammar resources plus all the other srs (memrise,anki, tinycards) makes me wonder why I am still a self assessed N6 anon

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>>21086046
believe him since i'm only talking about what i know from listening and the examples i've seen in japanese. i'm not an authority.

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>>21086055
Because number of resources doesn't matter, putting the time into reading practice and such is.

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>>21086055
And yet its all trash compared to using Yomichan and having dojg open in a browser while reading.

Quick dictionary lookup and searchable grammar resource should speed up language acquisition by such incredible amounts it should take less than half of the time to learn this language now than it did 10 years ago.

[Anonymous No.]

彼氏は寝ていて、退屈

[Anonymous No.]

i don't "get" shodo. like what even is this? it looks like someone who was holding a paint brush fell down and had a seizure.

[Anonymous No.]

Traditional Japanese grammarians describe the process of unvoiced sibilant vowel reduction as the vowel being articulated but not voiced, but modern phoneticians analyzing recordings and articulatory data find that in many cases the vowel is not articulated at all, not even in the mouth. It's true that in many cases and for many speakers, the vowel is always articulated but unvoiced, but this is no longer a universal description.

Many young speakers and singers also have a mental distinction between "vowels that are articulated, but not voiced" and "vowels that are not articulated at all" for some reason. (Possibly because of influence from loanwords from languages with more consonant clusters, or compulsory English education getting better, or just globalization. Can't say exactly why, but it's happening.)

It's at a point were, when singing, things like はやく and ていく are sometimes sung like "hayak" and "teik", depending on the style of the song. This would be blocked by phonotactic restrictions if they were thinking of the "u" as a weak, but still articulated, vowel.

People who continue to insist that the "the vowel dropped / not articulated" understanding of the phenomenon is wrong are working off of an outdated theory.

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>>21086057
You might be right anon, do you know if there is an app for that?

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>>21086079
why dont you go read the wikipedia article on it lol.

you're basically just complaining about art in general at this point

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>>21086082
vowel reduction in syllables starting with unvoiced sibilants/plosives/hard consonants other than p*

Posted too quickly.

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>>21086082
i didnt read all of ur post but how is it hard to understand that はやく still has the く regardless if u say it that way or not and as a result nothing is "dropped"

eops need to fuck off basically

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>>21086076
おい 知ってた？ここって同性愛者が憎まれてるぞ
どっか行け

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>>21086055
I know bro. I tried to learn japanese a few years back and everything was shit. There wasn't even any good youtube videos. There was literally just shit everywhere or nothing at all. There was no online ecelebs, just underground af ajatt which I thought was a scam at the time. There was youtube videoes of people saying they moved to japan and lived there for over 15 years and still hadn't gotten fluent and he basically said it's an impossible language. No japanese subs for anything, everything even. I had pretty much said fuck this. Then out of nowhere thousands of things started coming out a couple years ago and then I refound ajatt and heard tons of success stories in relatively short periods of aquiring the language. It's a japanese language renaissance age.

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>>21086085
I use Lithium, N6-kun

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>>21086105
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CcujQwmEcl0#t=24

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>>21086103
do u understand the point of linguistics? thats like saying uh guys why would call north korea an authoritarian state when it says right there in the name its a democratic people's republic!!!

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>>21086103
t. someone who doesn't know Japanese and thinks the す in picture related is supposed to feel like a し

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>>21086116
idk i didnt realize i was in the linguistics thread

>>21086120
thats actually visibly changed tho ? ur doing the apples to oranges thing again fuck outta here squiddo

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>>21086120
That's 何日だったのかすら分からない
Owned with facts and logic

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>>21086120
>>21086130
https://youtu.be/36kqVJwwNr4
Hah! It didn't click for me the first time I watched this show but now it makes perfect sense. You can also hear it from the intonation.

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>>21086067
And yet that process is a complete stressful activity for a beginner, while building a vocabulary helps a lot in a day to day life in Japan.
Of course I'd like to read but using that method only works if you know at least a reasonable amount of words otherwise I think it might even bad for learning as you get constantly distracted by looking up words and easily forget what the sentence mean by the end of it.

[Anonymous No.]

mou zutto hi no hikari wo mitenai kara ne...
nan nichi tatta no kuzu omaera me-
shinei

[Anonymous No.]

do-nika site

watasiwo kolosite kudasai

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>>21086175
Of course you need some basics, but the threshold is comparatively low. Enables me to read some light novels after not even half a year of studying which in turn really accelerated my progress.

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>>21086067

>>21086120
>>21086130

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>>21086130
Nice meme.
>>21086212
Don't forget to quote the video >>21086168

[Anonymous No.]

Calvin quit learning Japanese. Did anyone watch his final video before he deleted his Youtube and twitter? It showed up in my RSS, but by the time I clicked on the link, it was already deleted.

I really wanted that guy to make it.

[Anonymous No.]

maybe hell reload his save one day and avert his bad end

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>>21086328
If only someone had saved him from Matt's assburgers and OCD.

[Anonymous No.]

the way i see it if i didnt save him jinping would have

[Anonymous No.]

do ajatters feel superior? the way they talk gives that impressions.

Well most of y'all are much worse than me and the idea of doing anything besides reading and watching makes me laugh. you guys try to make jokes but it just makes feel bad for brain washed self. fin

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VqmdifZvX6E

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>>21086434
>Well most of y'all are much worse than me
I guess its not a ajatters thing only

[Anonymous No.]

once ur in the made it club inferiority and superiority complexes are a thing of the past everyones just chill havin a good time : )

its every1 still clawing and scratching their way up that really want to rumble and act like they got their shit together but its hard to take them seriously when they read 広義 like this https://streamable.com/6hm1z

[Anonymous No.]

i just realized matt also says japanese style uh when talking in english LOL

[Anonymous No.]

but the flashtards are the ones that allow us to lol the hardest

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>>21086463
and I wish matt, calvin, mia, ajjat, etc werent cited here, but what can I do

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anyone else here not from /jp/ or /a/? it feels like djt is the hyperbolic time chamber and when i go back to /v/ i'll have ascended to a level further beyond.

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>>21086473
im sorry as i am not a toddler i don't play video games (besides vnsif you count that) or watch dbz. i frequent only djt and /lit/

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>>21086473
theres a djt on ８chan that has ppl talkin like me on it lol

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>>21086473
I'm from reddit

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>>21086485
vns are def video games and watchin dbz thats mando my ninja

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cb04XOycFc4

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>>21086491
yeah ima pass bra. i am fluent off of just harem anime and dank lit.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0OM1mvF8rM8

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>>21086331
>>21086367
>>21086434
>>21086451
>>21086458
>>21086461
>>21086463
>>21086468
>>21086472
>>21086473
>>21086485
>>21086486
>>21086489
>>21086491
>>21086491

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>>21086534
how dare you call me jamal.

[Anonymous No.]

theres a bunch of lil mini mes runnin around but i love them all

[Anonymous No.]

i really fuckin dont care for oreimo guy tho fuck u dude >: )

[Anonymous No.]

>>21086551
What did I ever do to you? I am just telling everybody the requirements of learning japanese which includes oreimo whether you like it or not.

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>>21086534
why did you quote 15 of my messages?

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>>21086582
just fuck u oreimo guy!!! oreimo sux the dude who wrote it sux fuck u all!!!

[Anonymous No.]

スーパーカリフラジリスティックエクスピアリドーシャス

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>>21086108
>It's a japanese language renaissance age.
you are absolutely right and i luv it

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>>21086458
>once ur in the made it club inferiority and superiority complexes are a thing of the past everyones just chill havin a good time : )
exactly except even beginners can feel like this if they have inner peace and don’t care about that shit in the first place and are just focused on improving lol i know a really fluent guy (passed N1 and can speak quickly with great grammar) who’s still caught up in who’s better than who i’m just like.... why care

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>>21086634
u really shouldnt even focus on improving

u shouldnt look at it like a skill ur honing or anything

literally the best results come from not even trying at japanese but instead enjoying the things themselves

its like its really hard to concentrate on falling asleep to go to sleep but somehow that moment ur mind wanders the switch goes off and its dreamland for u

[Anonymous No.]

>>21083865
>meditating for 5-10 minutes before you start your daily study/content consumption is beneficial for focus in m'opinion
this guy is wise
パチパチ

[Anonymous No.]

the only things you need to consciously understand about pitch accent

1) a "word" only has a single downstep, and no explicit upstep
2) compounding and particles affect the pitch accent of the resulting compound or phrase
3) stress exists, but it emerges from pitch accenting, not the other way around like english where pitch changes emerge from the stress accent
4) when words have multiple acceptable locations for the downstep, either they're used by different people (this is what it is most of the time) or they mean slightly different things (usually only with compound words)
5) anglophones can learn pitch accent naturally just fine, you just have to actually listen to enough japanese for your brain to start noticing and cataloging it. the hard part is learning the pitch accents of individual words, rather than phrases.

things that are useful to avoid misinterpreting the "theory" of pitch accent being a bunch of downsteps

1) japanese still has sentence-level intonation
2) there are still upsteps, they just emerge from sentence-level intonation and emphasis
3) for plain old statements, sentence-level intonation generally has a rising then falling shape, and usually ends somewhere below where it started
4) mixing pitch accent systems from different dialects isn't actually going to be a problem since they share an underlying logic and are hard to mix accidentally unless you don't actually know japanese in the first place
5) the tendency for words to gradually rise in pitch before the downstep is a property of words being pronounced in isolation, it is often a sharp upstep or a flat line in actual speech depending on the rhythm and in what locations emphasis is being placed

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>>21086634
>why care
because what the fuck else is there in this life to give two fucks about you smarmy little fuck? i'm a beginner and the only thing i value in life is my japanese. so i will get good and i will hold it against others when they become inferior to me.

[Anonymous No.]

Do not worry Dies irae anon, I am here with you.

[Anonymous No.]

I don't understand the contrived issue of accent. The measure of skill should be how well you can craft moist sentences in the language, accent does not matter. I have had many brilliant professors with poor accents, and have met many people with "perfect" accents who have less than middle school level literacy. I mean matt and his kind are a non-entity who mean nothing to me, but genuinely do not understand the obsession with accent.

Is is because autism which means they will never reach someone at an emotional level, so they resort to a pointless measure of their medal.

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>>21086655
https://streamable.com/ay43z

[Anonymous No.]

>>21086661
If you consistently place emPHAsis on the wrong sylLAbles then that means that you don't understand how the language's syntax actually works.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21086646
the only things you need to consciously understand about pitch accent

1) it exists
2) listen more and you will notice it
3) that's it

[Anonymous No.]

>>21086661
>accent does not matter.
just because it's not the be all and end all doesn't mean it doesn't matter.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21086661
accent doesnt matter saying words right (even this is debatable) and flowing properly (but this is not) does

anyone who listens to dogen or mattvsjapan can tell right away they arent japanese cringe af to boot and trying to pretend to sound japanese is about as stupid as imitating any other way people talk from where u are clearly not from

basically the better u get ull naturally sound better anyway while still sounding like u and not some character ur imitating

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>>21083814
>meditation is worthless except MAYBE if you spend 50 years reaching floor 50 of the mind illuminated
big benefits (like near-effortless sustained attention, significant reduction of ruminative thoughts, major mood increases, and regular short bursts of bliss) start after stage 4 which can be achieved in like 6 months if you’re diligent. around how long it takes on average to finish RTK.
and we’re literally talking about your whole experience of daily life feeling better and easier haha i don’t see how that wouldn’t be worth it?

[Anonymous No.]

fuck off meditation transsexual

[Anonymous No.]

>haha

[Anonymous No.]

people itt actually think meditating is worth wasting all that time lmfao
>>21086645
>>21083865

[Anonymous No.]

if u wanna meditate have at it i hope u do well and get woke as hell from it

it has no place here tho

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i8Whjjdc2DI#t=27

namaste

[Anonymous No.]

has this guy meditated even once in his life? you can't even start level 4 until maybe 20 years in if you're talented and work hard.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21084352
>Manchildren in Action
No thanks. Traditional AJATT is the way to go. Those are inefficient changes he made because he needed to look busy in front of the people stupid enough to subscribe to him on Patreon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21086705
>>21086709
meditating lmfaoooooooo off yourself faggots

[Anonymous No.]

>>21086683
this

[Anonymous No.]

Anyone know what the hell a 夜のマット is? I don't think it's a soap land mat and the only thing I can seem to find that is even semi related is a video of two hamsters getting cockblocked.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xt4hCKCBQwg

[Anonymous No.]

meditation is useful but it's not some kind of mystical bullshit and the scientists and gurus trying to study it have no idea what it actually does on a fine tuned level other than "yeah it makes changes to your brain that are basically positive"

do it if you want just don't make it into a big deal also fuck matt and fuck fake hippies

[Anonymous No.]

>>21086727
you're parsing whatever you're reading wrong, post the full sentence/context

[Anonymous No.]

>>21086724
>>21086732
personally i never considered meditating cuz i honestly think im at the highest level of consciousness at all times

in fact i think its others who need to meditate to even find a way to enter my realm lol

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>>21086683
Honestly I don't think people will ever be able to sound natural on the fly, maybe with intense vocal training you can sound natural in short pre-rehearsed segments but not with speaking normally. I mean I have never met someone who has managed that in english, so it seems natural it would be the same for japanese. I think my be the hardest pill to swallow for many people trying to learn japanese. people think the short rehearsed bits by dogen and matt sound good but most people who think this don't actually know japanese. and that one japanese guy who did videos critiquing them would always mention small bits of accent mistakes, but when I hear a non-native english speaker everything they say, no matter how good they are, sounds off, and I could not imagine critiqueing any individual thing they say. I am aware I have an american accent in japanese but I simply do not care, as the words I say are what matter.

Listen to the first guy (vladimir nabokov, an amazing american author) and notice his apperant accent after over half a century of english exposure and being one of the greatest modern authors.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ldpj_5JNFoA
Just list

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>>21086735
僕がつるっと口を滑らせたのは夜のマット運動なのに……どうしよう、このフォロー。
Person cracked a joke about using an exercise mat together that fell flat.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21086718
>Traditional AJATT
No thanks. Krashen-Kaufmann is the way to go. Those are inefficient changes he made because he needed to look busy in front of the people stupid enough to subscribe to him on AJATT Plus and buy sentence packs from him on the AJATT Store.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21086743
thats just how people talked back then

[Anonymous No.]

>>21086655
this is kinda disturbing if you truly feel this way, but thanks for being honest cause i think others need to hear this too. an attitude of (unplayful) competition is just unnecessary stress, and if things aren’t worthwhile to you without that, then you have trauma and struggle with low self worth, and should consider working on those issues alongside japanese

[Anonymous No.]

>>21086745
what you're looking at is 夜のマット運動, which is 夜の + マット運動, not 夜のマット + 運動

[Anonymous No.]

>>21086750
Traditional AJATT is more than the input hypothesis. I'll give you a 2/10 for effort though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21086739
well i'm trying to meet you there man! just got to level 2 but i know it'll be a grueling 2315 months until i get close.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21083733
I'll ignore the two irrelevent ones.
>- RTK
Good.
>- Anki
Good.
>- Reddit
Not a productive use of time.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21086751
he has an obvious french accent, also the 2 other people sound completely normal.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21086698
have you done it? lol you can’t speak on it if you have no idea what it even involves or the changes it makes in one’s experience of life. i bet you can’t even name the first step without resorting to some silly joke or insult to cover up your ignorance.

[Anonymous No.]

Anyone else excited for the new period announcement? I've been putting off learning Japanese since they might announce a sequel today and I don't want to waste my time.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21086758
And all the extra bits are bad, same with Manchildren In Action.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21086754
Right, I'm fucking dumb. I shouldn't be reading when I'm this tired, thanks.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21086758
MIA is more than just traditional AJATT. I'll give you a 2/10 for effort though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21086743
i mean he sounds like hes from somewhere else than i am which in this case is true

but his english is fuckin great i dont see the problem he sounds like him and brings where hes from with him

i mean its fuckin par for the course that when u become proficient in japanese this happens as well

like i said it really has to do with where ur from or spend considerable time at among local ppl

like ppl start to pick up accents if they spent extensive time somewhere and this can be to ur benefit in japanese as well but its fine to always sound like u come from somewhere else cuz u do and being true to urself is the #1 way to fast track ur success with japanese

[Anonymous No.]

>>21086764
>>- RTK
>Good.
yeah that's why you get people like >>21086014 who don't finish building their foundations until several years after they start because of rtk poisoning their brains

[Anonymous No.]

>>21086724
>off yourself faggots
you need serious psychological help, and if you won’t meditate at least go see a therapist. whatever’s going on in your head can’t be healthy. stop taking out your pain on others.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21086765
the other two weren't nobility

[Anonymous No.]

>>21086772
That's the point. I've downgraded your score to 0/10, because you're clearly pretty stupid.
>>21086769
No it's not. The input hypothesis alone isn't a method.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21086780
That has nothing to do with RTK, and everything to do with him having shit discipline.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21086784
haven't cringed this hard in some time

[Anonymous No.]

>>21086774
I 100% agree with you. I was more having a conversation, not trying to argue. The point is that you should not focus on accent, as it is a natural part of immersion and learning the language. Like don't intentionally try to sound bad, but also focus on what you say not how you sound.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21086790
rtk causes people to have poor discipline because it makes them think that japanese is meant to be studied instead of learned

[Anonymous No.]

If your friend wanted to learn Japanese and you HAD to recommend him one of these books, which would it be?

[Anonymous No.]

>>21086802
>no printer-paper-bracketed-together copy of sakubi
they're all shit/10

[Anonymous No.]

>>21086764
matt is w/e but
>I'll ignore the one i know nothing about and therefore can’t comment on

fixed that for ya

[Anonymous No.]

>>21086797
yah i mean totally

if u wanna do something weird like focus on accent do vocal training after ur fluent and wanna complete ur mongoloidal transition proper lmao

[Anonymous No.]

>>21086802
gonna pick whatever is at the top cuz it fuckin says ASS right on it lol

[Anonymous No.]

>>21086802
i’d just tell him to get japanese the manga way and then start immersing and sentence farming for a while

[Anonymous No.]

>>21086798
Literacy is a part of learning Japanese.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21086802
I would say Genki (one and two). After that, your friend will have a better foundation to search for better resources

[Anonymous No.]

>>21086784
>The input hypothesis alone isn't a method.
>the only thing krashen and steve talk about is the input hypothesis
>being this ignorant and calling others stupid

[Anonymous No.]

>>21084742
>1:22:33
>But [the discord] was getting hijacked by beginners promoting beginners with their own ideas
****'s discord was just like DJT?
>1:23:51
>And I am one of those with the mindset that if you cannot make it through Heisig, you can not make it through AJATT-style immersion.
I hope this serves as a warning to anyone reading this post. Pic related.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21086666
I mean isn't there pitch accent in most languages including english? It's just an intonation with variance of tone.. I don't get the big deal. I just don't want to get a nihongo lisp like matt has.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21086840
rtk doesn't teach you to write japanese and there's no point in using it if you want to get good at writing japanese

if you think otherwise you're a victim of sunken cost or cult brainwashing

[Anonymous No.]

>>21086843
What the fuck are you talking about? Stop misusing greentext like the cancer newfag from >>>/v/ that you are, and make a rational point.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21086845
this is retarded cuz rtgay is fuckin gay as hell but playing japanese videogames and watching anime w. eng subs is ftw as hell

basically ben is trash but if he doesnt quit he can still make something of himself

[Anonymous No.]

>>21086860
I just did. Now try responding to it or accept your ignorance and shut up.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21086857
RTK teaches you how to write 2200 characters from memory. You're either trolling or mentally disabled to the point that you're not capable of doing basic research. Either way we're done here.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21086802
I would use all of them ... as fuel for a fire.

but in all seriousness, when I recommend to someone to learn japanese i say:

learn kana
skim tae kim
install rikiachamp/yomichan and text hooker.
start reading nhk easy/easy vns or manga or whatever they want.
when they are confused just reference tae kim or google and to not care too much on understanding everything
do this until you are confident with reading and descide what you want to do next.

hard no's:
rtk
anki

[Anonymous No.]

>>21086870
Characters but not words. In other words, it doesn't teach any actually meaningful writing ability.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21086870
writing individual characters doesn't teach you to spell or write out entire japanese sentences
writing actual japanese text is an entirely different skill from writing the individual characters
and there's nothing preventing you from being considered "literate" if you write things with the wrong stroke order

[Anonymous No.]

>>21086849
honestly it doesnt even matter that much if u intonate correctly as long as ur actually speaking japanese and not trying to put together some piecemeal shit of phrases and expressions lol

context is still always king

[Anonymous No.]

>>21086867
You didn't make a point. You shit out some autistic word salad that doesn't make any sense, while completely ignoring the aspect you were thoroughly refuted on.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21086857
>rtk doesn't teach you to write japanese
I'm redoing rtk the right way just to learn to write this time lol so umm that's exactly what it does if you do it right.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21086781
dont u have some meditating to do ghandi??

[Anonymous No.]

>>21086883
If telling yourself that makes you feel better, then okay. Go live in your world of delusions.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21086877
>>21086881
What are words composed of? You can do it! You know, trolling used to be a lot more subtle in my day. There's no way you're actually as stupid as you're trying to convince the world you are.

[Anonymous No.]

post your handwritten japanese ill start

[Anonymous No.]

Sorry to interrupt the RTK discussion but do any of you guys have then anki version of this Archer pic?

[Anonymous No.]

>>21086893
Come back when you have a rebuttal.

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>21086901
I could post hundreds of pages but I wouldn't want to make you feel bad

[Anonymous No.]

>>21086904

[Anonymous No.]

>>21086908

[Anonymous No.]

>>21086899
Knowing the alphabet doesn't mean you know how to spell words correctly. Knowing kanji doesn't mean you know how to spell Japanese words correctly.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21086911
Thanks.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21086907
To an invalid point? The problem here is your ignorance. Just stop posting.

[Anonymous No.]

I recently got my N5 and i want to get an N2 or even a N1 and go to Japan for 5 years or more, but my college (meme 3D animations in a 3rd world country) doesn't have any scholarships to go to Japan (I should have stayed in Uni studying history, they had a scholarship to go to Chiba.)
Also, english is not my native language so i will not be hired as english teacher.
What are my options?

[Anonymous No.]

>>21086917
still means you can write though english alphabet, theres words you probably can't spell in english too that doesn't mean you can't write english brainlet

[Anonymous No.]

>>21086932
>I recently got my N5

[Anonymous No.]

>>21086917
imagining matt at a spelling bee and the word is 皇后

[Anonymous No.]

>>21086938
>theres words you probably can't spell in english too that doesn't mean you can't write english brainlet
And if I didn't actually practise spelling English words, guess what? I'd be able to write a whole lot less of them and not be able to write anything coherently - i.e. I would have no meaningful writing ability.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21086932
if its brazil, good luck

[Anonymous No.]

>>21086932
why would you even spend money on a jlpt test less than n2. did you run out of toilet paper?

Coming to Japan for 5 years is career suicide, either come for like 1 year tops or stay forever. I assume you are in the "I want to learn Japanese because of their quirky culture and do not actually care for japanese" so I recommend to quit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21086930
If you want to claim the point is invalid you have to actually present an argument. Something you've failed to do, because you can't.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21086957
I'll present one when you do.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21086939
FTFM
I meant the JLPT 5.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21086917
If you know the kanji you can write the words that you know. If you don't then you can't write anything at all. In other words they're an essential component to literacy. It's really that simple. You're incredibly stupid, and if you're not trolling you would've been better off aborted.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21086961
Already did.
>>21086784

[Anonymous No.]

>>21086973
>I meant the JLPT 5.
I know.

[Anonymous No.]

post your writing guys we're all literate here right? here's mine

[Anonymous No.]

>>21086972
>In other words they're an essential component to literacy.
Yes, and just knowing them alone doesn't mean anything.

I will repeat: RTK doesn't teach any meaningful writing ability.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21086983

[Anonymous No.]

>>21086953
You can't understand japanese culture without knowing japanese.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21086978
>The input hypothesis alone isn't a method.
>the only thing krashen and steve talk about is the input hypothesis
>being this ignorant and calling others stupid

[Anonymous No.]

>>21086983
わたしはゲイ
以上

[Anonymous No.]

am i doing rtk the wrong way? I have it set to keyword to kanji and I don’t hit good (1d) on Anki unless I know how to write the character. I remember how to write 99% of shit but it takes me >1hr just to do 25 new cards this way

[Anonymous No.]

>>21087019
enjoy buddy you're gonna love doing 2200 of them minimum

[Anonymous No.]

should i do my reviews while in japan for two weeks? Is there a way to pause anki so i dont come back to 3000 reviews due?

[Anonymous No.]

>>21087019
>t takes me >1hr just to do 25 new cards this way
That's a typical pace when doing RTK. It's obviously much slower than vocab decks.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21086999
What the fuck are you talking about? Stop misusing greentext like the cancer newfag from >>>/v/ that you are, and make a rational point.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21086953
Not him but I plan on taking an N3 I know I can fuck up so I can get a feel for exam conditions before I do my N2 or N1.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21086990

[Anonymous No.]

>>21086951
meaningful writing ability=/=being able to write english
try to stay on topic smart guy

[Anonymous No.]

>>21086990
>RTK doesn't teach any meaningful writing ability.
That's literally what RTK teaches, retard.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21086983
my dream is to get good enough to become an author in japanese. as of now I could not imagine writing an entire story in japanese that is worth reading, but hopefully one day. As for now just need to keep reading a lot.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21087123
i hope you use anki. otherwise you arent even worth my reply

[Anonymous No.]

Haven't been on /djt/ for some years. I thought eceleb killed this place, but wtf with this meditation bullshit?

[Anonymous No.]

>>21087160
It's the new meme from our current favorite eceleb.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21087160
Who were the ecelebs of some years ago?

about the meditation shit, its because of a current day's eceleb

[Anonymous No.]

>>21087123
i dont have to use kanji to defeat u it can easily be done with hiragana lmao

[Anonymous No.]

How do you resist the temptation to play translated versions of games?
It's so tempting. Some days it feels like I'm busting my ass to understand Japanese VNs when I could just be playing them in English. If I'm only understanding half of what I'm reading in Japanese anyway, then what's the point?

[Anonymous No.]

>>21087220
i'm joining right now you're gonna be so fucking mad and you're gonna regret it

[Anonymous No.]

>>21087220
do you use anki?

[Anonymous No.]

>>21087123
I passed N1 in slightly under two years, and I attribute a lot of my progress to RTK.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21087235
By knowing enough Japanese to not constantly struggle and second guess myself myself. If I have to choose between reading a translation at my normal reading speed and reading the original version at 3/4 of my normal reading speed, I'll always go with the latter.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21087220
>>21087250
this is literally the "that guy" from ur average japanese 101 course lol

[Anonymous No.]

>>21087169
Who the fuck is "we"? No one here with a brain likes cancerous e-celebs.

[Anonymous No.]

So what will the new era name be?

[Anonymous No.]

わたしはゲイなんですけど。。。

[Anonymous No.]

Funny how no one showed up on the guy's discord lol
bunch of pussies

[Anonymous No.]

What discord?

[Anonymous No.]

>>21087220
>https://discord.gg/3PpxB24

>>21087295
>What discord?

[Anonymous No.]

No reason to join his discord when you can just use https://kotobaweb.com/kanjigame/create
I could play and own the heck out of him, but I'm not an RTKtard so I don't really have any reason to.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21087295
I challenged all RTK kids to a friendly Kanji battle with the Kanji bot but the only person who joined is some RTK beginner who doesn't even want to try.

>21087220

[Anonymous No.]

>>21086802
imagine buying a book for kana study

[Anonymous No.]

>>21087314
Its not like I dont even want to try, I'm just a beginner with around 2k words lol

[Anonymous No.]

>>21087313
I tried that but the web version is far inferior. You can join just fine with a guest account.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21087322
Inferior how? I played a while ago with some people here and it worked fine.

[Anonymous No.]

>礼和
wtf japan

[Anonymous No.]

>>21087277

[Anonymous No.]

I'm gonna be a neet until the end of the year, should I get a job and go to japan or study full-time?

[Anonymous No.]

>>21087672
get a job and stay in whatever country you're currently in or study full time because there's no reason to move to japan.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21087419
It's 令和, you illiterate gayjin.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21087690
no I meant just visiting

[Anonymous No.]

>IME already converts 令和
how did they know?!

[Anonymous No.]

Seriously though if they had just asked me I could have come up with dozens of better names.
It sounds lame as hell.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21087770
>I could have come up with dozens of better names.
no you couldn't

>It sounds lame as hell.
no it doesn't

[Anonymous No.]

>>21087760
doesn't work for me.

[Anonymous No.]

moar like gaywa lmfao

[Anonymous No.]

>金属のケースに接吻し、俺は、また戦場へと走り出した。
The "normal" endings in this game are really fucked up. When I realized what was going on in Rain's normal ending, I felt sick to my stomach. Nanoha's feels even worse than her bad end.

[Anonymous No.]

Are there college courses that arent just hyper basic grammar taught at a snails pace? I've spent 7 months in a college course and I guess Ive learned things but like a third of the people in the class dont know whats going on and I could have learned as much as we have in like a month or two.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21087813
Of course I can.
How about 智漢 (ちかん), the era of wise, great men
Or maybe 聖役 (せいえき) for sacred duty?

[Anonymous No.]

>>21087856
I took japanese in college for a year and it's the equivelant to what you could do in 4 weeks of being a neet full time immersing and studying. The problem too is that by the end of a semester you're forgetting stuff at the start already because you're just memorizing it and not acquiring it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21087834
At least every girl has proper good endings.
The "bad" ends are pretty well done, suits the dual nature (war/tragedy with cute girls) of the game.
But yeah, what you wrote is probably the heaviest of them all.

[Anonymous No.]

im feeling shitty and inferior today

[Anonymous No.]

There's a 10分の5 percent chance that a post in djt is constructed by some crude AI.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21088005
read something comfy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21088040
if only i had the skills

[Anonymous No.]

>>21088030
you're face was constructed by some crude AI

[Anonymous No.]

>>21087897
I feel like a week of Anki is equivalent to the vocabulary I have learned in the since August in school. Feels kinda shitty to think about the time and money wasted. The only thing I can think of that I have really gotten from it is speaking practice but it was so basic and I may have like 7 minutes of total time actually speaking anything.

[Anonymous No.]

What's the deal with commas? Why are they rarely used?

[Anonymous No.]

My body is ready

[Anonymous No.]

>>21088096
how long did it take to complete 6k?

[Anonymous No.]

天皇陛下 has finally ended the age old argument by deciding that Rei > Asuka

[Anonymous No.]

>>21088197
rei vs. asuka was always, has always been, and will always be an argument over who gets leftover scraps

[Anonymous No.]

そんなにゲイですね

[Anonymous No.]

>>21088225
i hit "like" on that. わたしはゲイなんだから

[Anonymous No.]

If you like my post I'll PM you how to become fluent in Japanese in a month.

[Anonymous No.]

老若男女 is hard to pronounce, hit that mf like button if you agree!

[Anonymous No.]

>>21088275
makes you feel like you're a catgirl saying nyan nyan nyan nyan :3

[Anonymous No.]

geigo ha geiwa wa

[Anonymous No.]

Matt is stupid, like if you agree

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>21088630
I don't get it

[Anonymous No.]

>>21088693
アベ

[Anonymous No.]

>>21088721
That's a real stretch

[Anonymous No.]

>>21088630
What does Abe Lincoln have to do with this?

[Anonymous No.]

i felt that way when i discovered anki during my second year of japanese classes too. at least you have it now!

[Anonymous No.]

Now that we have a new gengo, which was your favorite so far?
Mine was the Shol'va period that lasted until 1989 with emperor Teal'c.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21087160
people started talking about meditation here because matt recommended it for increased focus, mood and study stamina. soon even people who don’t follow his usual videos/posts/patreon realized it’s helpful for them. there are those who get triggered at the word and hate it based on stereotypes and ignorance (seems like you’re included?) and there are people who like to discuss its benefits and how it helps them, both in japanese study and life.

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

まんようしゅうからだって

まんようしゅうってなんだっけ

[Anonymous No.]

>>21088948
uchi ha doko dai

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>21088847
I've always said that my main hobby is Japanese itself, and anime and games and shit are just an extension of that. since I didn't become a weeb until after I started learning the language, it's sort of true, although obviously the weeb shit was the big motivator for me to improve. but I think the people who really succeed are people who see learning the language not just as a way to access other things but as an end unto itself
tl;dr learning is inherently fun who knew but I still don't do anki that shit sucks

[Anonymous No.]

ゲームはいちにち

いちにじかん

[Anonymous No.]

Like this post if you hate Matt.

[Anonymous No.]

chinpo ha ichiban da

[Anonymous No.]

ｄｊｔはいちにち

いちにかい

[Anonymous No.]

>>21089125
>tl;dr learning is inherently fun who knew
Actually as it turns out from research by Asher, the brain finds stuff that works in language learning (and other learning) pleasing. So actually if you're having a boring time then what you're doing probably isn't even working anyway.

Obvious stuff that nobody thinks about.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21089125
I definitely got into contact with Japanese things before I started on the language, but I didn't just start learning the language to access content I couldnt previously (not a big issue really), but I really like the language. I actually like it even more now that I speak and understand more and more of it.

[Anonymous No.]

「楽しみは正論にあり」ならオナニーでどう？いやオナニー以上は、エッチでしょ？ほら、おいで～　私の体で習って～

[Anonymous No.]

>>21089225
as it turns out, research from Asher is as unreliable as any other research

[Anonymous No.]

>>21089179
女性的なチンポを見て

[Anonymous No.]

>>21089269
Research says you're gay<div class="like-perk-cnt">&#x1F603;</div>

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>21089179
penisu ha eroi, penisu ha erai, penisu no nai seikatu nante kangaerannnai

[Anonymous No.]

君たちの一番大好きな動物は何ですか？<div class="like-perk-cnt">&#x265E;</div>

[Anonymous No.]

>>21089377
ur mom cause she lets me hit it lul

[Anonymous No.]

>>21089377
どうぶつえんにすんでるどうぶつ？

それとも

ちきゅうのにほんに

いっしょにすんでるどうぶつ？

[Anonymous No.]

>>21089386
意識高いアピール乙

[Anonymous No.]

私は妹という動物と一緒に住んでいる動物です

[Anonymous No.]

>>21089401
エロい。。。<div class="like-perk-cnt">&#x1F603;</div>

[Anonymous No.]

>>21089377
子パンダ！子ウサギ！子豚！子猫！子犬！やもり

[Anonymous No.]

可愛過ぎてやばっ！！

[Anonymous No.]

anyone have playlist to dogen's phoenetics videos?

[Anonymous No.]

>momo
yikes

[Anonymous No.]

since when there is this like shit?

[Anonymous No.]

>>21089582
四月一日

[Anonymous No.]

Since today, I'd guess. It wasn't here yesterday.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21089595
and what is this 153 on your "name"?
oh boy, what is happening

[Anonymous No.]

>>21089600
Make a new post, click on Perks. I think it's that.

[Anonymous No.]

Remember that Mattposting will result in nullifying your score, so better keep it in check now boys.

[Anonymous No.]

woah like buttons
this should be fun

[Anonymous No.]

People Start Accepting Matt As Your Lord And Savior 以上

[Anonymous No.]

I'm already worshipping Great Lord Satan, you can't convince me to do otherwise, Mortal.

[Anonymous No.]

*Japanese Ahem*
Matt.

Likes go to the top right, thanks.

[Anonymous No.]

Like for Steve, (you) for Krashen, ignore for Matt

[Anonymous No.]

Like if you want to kill every stupid cult of personality cultist.

[Anonymous No.]

like this post if u think the april fools gimmick is gay

[Anonymous No.]

Really enjoying my study time lads

[Anonymous No.]

>>21089600
あたしのスコア！

[Anonymous No.]

Well, I hope updates for Reiwa are rolling in soon.

On mobile it's remotely possible to enter it, on PC it's fucking impossible.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21089919
ｌ２ｐｃ

[Anonymous No.]

sup djt. >>21082455 here
So, what are you all reading? I caught up with school juliet (my first raw manga), looking for something new to read
I already have zero no tsukaima in my list but I thought getting more ongoing mangas in my list isn't a bad idea.
What's a recommended ecchi romance comedy manga? perhaps I should go over /a/ and see what's trending

[Anonymous No.]

>>21089919
Just call it 零和 meanwhile.

[Anonymous No.]

Rolled 3 (1d6)

If 1, nobody in this thread can learn Japanese

[Anonymous No.]

>>21089919
i don't know man, i'm using the windows ime and it already has 令和 for some reason
you can always manually register it though

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

Friendly reminder to check all your yen coins for awhile because coins labeled ３１平和 are super popular right now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21089985
what for?

[Anonymous No.]

>>21089940
got em

[Anonymous No.]

>>21089994
Because they're going to be the rarest in several decades, plus sentimental value of being the last year of this era.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21089555
so is there any playlist available? does anyone knows? D:

[Anonymous No.]

more like blowgen

[Anonymous No.]

I'm doing 2k/6k vocab. First I read the word then later doing reps I just heard the word and try to write it
Hope this method works

[Anonymous No.]

>>21090073
yeah i do but i don't help kpop avatarfags

[Anonymous No.]

>>21090088
>Forcing production early
>"I hope this works"
Spoiler it doesn't.

[Anonymous No.]

thats not production or forcing

[Anonymous No.]

I fucking hate this. I cant stop listening to the op for some obscure mareni game except I'm too much of a 出来ない retard to be able to read it. Learning japanese is suffering.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21090141
>writing isn't production
>writing it just to see if you remember it isn't forcing

use me as a dislike button for this post

[Anonymous No.]

stop wanting what u cant have and enjoy what u can have

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rCMx9DGl9Y0

[Anonymous No.]

>>21090153
production means no prompt

forcing means ur post

[Anonymous No.]

>>21090164
>Being prompted with a topic of conversation means that talking isn't production
I knew you were dekinai but I didn't realize it was this bad<div class="like-perk-cnt">&#x1F44C;</div>

[Anonymous No.]

u can resume posting when u resolve ur internal struggle there mate

[Anonymous No.]

>>21090135
But I am that retard anon who learned kanji first and now doing vocab. I dont think it is like I'm forcing to learn everything, just combine those kanji and make words

[Anonymous No.]

>>21090173
dont worry guys just acting like a retard fsr but frankly ur doing flashcards so its not like i wanna defend u either

[Anonymous No.]

>>21090179
forcing production has been proven almost 60 years ago to be bad lol sorry that you're a fucking moron stuck in the way of thinking of 3000 threads ago<div class="like-perk-cnt">&#x1F641;</div>

[Anonymous No.]

It would be nice if we tried a thread completely in japanese someday. It would be the most progress to ever come out of djt.

[Anonymous No.]

ur too blinded by perks and ur posting is suffering greatly

[Anonymous No.]

>>21090185
[citation needed]

[Anonymous No.]

>>21090187
>it would be nice if we permanently crippled our japanese<div class="like-perk-cnt">&#x1F44C;</div>

[Anonymous No.]

>>21085794
Can you post a pic from a page with text? I'd appreciate it if you could.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21090187
now wouldnt that be an epic april fools thread lol

[Anonymous No.]

>>21090193
that's just a meme bro, fossilisation isn't even a real thing in speech let alone typing

[Anonymous No.]

Like this post if you think reading is for fags

[Anonymous No.]

like deez nutz faget

[Anonymous No.]

>>21090179
I just want to learn nihongo

[Anonymous No.]

>>21090148
mareni game? listening to the OP? wtf are you talking about

[Anonymous No.]

>>21090192
Works Cited:

Krashen, S. (1985). The Input Hypothesis. Harlow: Longman.
Krashen, S. Down with Forced Speech. University of Southern California.

[Anonymous No.]

luckily we were never talking about forced speech it was literally a dude writing a word after hearing it lol congrats on ur tangential rant that circled back in2 u giving a proverbial rimjob to krashen

[Anonymous No.]

>>21090268
Thanks<div class="like-perk-cnt">&#x1F603;</div>

[Anonymous No.]

Do you think Japanese children listen to Matt in their Japanese classes in elementary school? Or is he too advanced for them?

[Anonymous No.]

>>21090268
Do you think writing is input or is this damage control because you didn't think I'd actually give you citations you're too dumb to look up?<div class="like-perk-cnt">&#x1F44C;</div>

[Anonymous No.]

>>21090276
no i dont think they do and furthermore this kid right here knows more japanese than matt and thinks hes a pussy

>>21090279
i didnt ask for citations theres more than 1 person here who thinks ur retarded and posting badly right now

[Anonymous No.]

>>21090289
That little shit doesn't even fucking meditate, get the fuck out of here.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21090294
the moment he became conscious he was level 4 dude kid was born woke

[Anonymous No.]

>>21090289
lol my posts are higher quality than yours you're just spouting your own meme views im giving you the hard research that you're too autismo to read through before arguing back

[Anonymous No.]

>>21090255
That's been debunked. Do your research. I like Krashen but he's no bullet proof m8. He was on the right path but there is no science to back it up.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21090305

[Anonymous No.]

nihongo word of the day
令和<div class="like-perk-cnt">&#x1F494;</div>

[Anonymous No.]

>>21090315
[citation needed]

>>21090318
Imagine being this far into the sunk cost fallacy that you're in SUCH A HURRY TO PUSH AWAY OPPOSING RESEARCH that you try to meme your way out instead of taking half an hour to educate yourself with free research before replying. IMAGINE BEING T H A T IGNORANT

[Anonymous No.]

krashen is a fraud and output is the fastest way to acquire languages

[Anonymous No.]

>>21090368
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xVzK79undb0

[Anonymous No.]

>>21090368
I guess if an anonymous guy on 4chan says it it must be true

[Anonymous No.]

>>21082384
firepunch

[Anonymous No.]

>>21090254
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-FsA-CHyTU&feature=youtu.be

[Anonymous No.]

What goes through someone's head when they decide that this is the size and font they want their subs to be?

[Anonymous No.]

>>21090379
There is a reason professionals would never switch to his ideas. It's the equivelant to Timothy Leary telling everybody to take acid in the 70's. Sounded good in theory only. He had basically found a few new grains of truth and tried to make a whole religion around it. In practice krashen's theories fail and the students fail miserably thanks to him. You need a certain ammount of input or you're turning yourself into an autistic spud.

http://www.angelfire.com/az/english4thechildren/krashen.html

[Anonymous No.]

>>21090472
output*

[Anonymous No.]

Does anyone know of some good movies you can find on Nyaa? Live action or anime both are good

[Anonymous No.]

>>21090472
Students who learn with Krashen's input hypothesis have been compared to people who learn with traditional approaches that use forced speaking and writing and I guess you're right because the traditional approach tends to score better with spelling, grammar, verb tenses... basically everything. Oh yeah, except the communication part of the tests used. Ironic isn't it, that the traditional approach only makes you better in superficial things that don't actually matter, but things that the perfectionists and elitists think mean the world.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21090463
what goes through someone's head when they cant just listen to anime without babby jsubs

[Anonymous No.]

さくらさきはじめた

あゝかえつてきた

[Anonymous No.]

>>21090489
>communication
>superficial
>doesn't matter
found the autist

[Anonymous No.]

>>21090509
>talking matters
you need to go back

[Anonymous No.]

>>21090493
I just watched all of the FMA's with out any subs just japanese, but I looked up quiet a few words. The gains are real though. Forcing your subconscious to work extra hard is effective.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21090509
Your reading comprehension is shit, anon. Let me greentext for you to help:
>Test measures grammar, spelling, verb tenses, rote translation, etc.
>Traditional teaching methods outscores Krashen's method in these categories

>Test also measures actual communication
>Krashen's method outperforms in this category
>The one that actually matters in language

[Anonymous No.]

>>21090523
ur not forcing anything tho ur brain just does what it wants to

[Anonymous No.]

i wish there was a thumbs down option for posts theres so many that need it right now

[Anonymous No.]

>>21090528
Imagine doing a little bit of both and being the master race, that's all I'm saying. Too much of either is dumb.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21090537
I think you have a twisted, meme view of what Krashen is proposing. You seem to think you never talk. Krashen only says that talking during the Silent Period is bad.

[Anonymous No.]

はなよ

そせんのちとにくで

そまるはなよ

わかれのために

またうまれ

またちる

はなよ

[Anonymous No.]

translate it

[Anonymous No.]

>>21090565
probably, but most of the people here do, they are krashen extremist and I'm merely trying to restore balance

[Anonymous No.]

RTK is trash. Like if you agree.<div class="like-perk-cnt">&#x2668;&#xFE0F;</div>

[Anonymous No.]

>>21090574
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cEuU64Zt4B0#t=61

[Anonymous No.]

>>21090574
Prease move! If you lemain in zis ウエｨ。。。(大変になりそう)

[Anonymous No.]

>>21090565
>>21090582
The whole idea is not to force your brain to output in Japanese if it can't really do so. After a while output will come entirely naturally and Krashen never says anything about avoiding to output when it comes naturally. Something people seem to forget quite a bit.

[Anonymous No.]

i cant believe this whole thing came out of a dude literally just writing a word after hearing it

u fuckers are ridiculous

[Anonymous No.]

>>21090574
"the pleasure of being cummed inside"

[Anonymous No.]

>>21090595
>>21090602
>>21090603
>>21090655
sayonara (japanese for thank you)

[Anonymous No.]

>>21090659
Stop outputting, retard. You'll cripple your nipples or something

[Anonymous No.]

>>21090616
yea it doesn't even count as production until you're trying to make your own sentences (hence produce) learning how to write a word you know isn't even in the same ballpark. u may as well say that saying the words in your head as you read is production lol

[Anonymous No.]

i guess trying to read before uve watched 10000 hours of eng subbed anime is forced production LOL

checkmate retards

[Anonymous No.]

japanese is just bULLShit click up here if u agree ^

[Anonymous No.]

so when katakana is used instead of hiragana it's emphatic and i should stress the sound in my head like when i read this post
>>21090738
i stressed the middle of bullshit?

[Anonymous No.]

>>21090792
ur posts just aren't good enough mate<div class="like-perk-cnt"><img alt="" width="160" height="160" src="//s.4cdn.org/image/partyhat.gif"></div>

[Anonymous No.]

>>21090787
It depends. It can be used to illustrate a gaijins speaking in broken japanese or a robot 's speech or a persons speech is getting 呂律が回らない

[Anonymous No.]

https://streamable.com/6hm1z<div class="like-perk-cnt">&#x1F44C;</div>

[Anonymous No.]

>>21090574
キュルカスもうみなくていいとおもうと

かあてんをあらったようなすがすがしいきぶんになりました

[Anonymous No.]

>>21090801
I'm not talking about my posts. You aren't liking any posts enough.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21090659
Reply to me if you want an honest answer.

[Anonymous No.]

the luda vid was the realest answer none of yall ninjas can even come close

[Anonymous No.]

>>21090818

[Anonymous No.]

get out of the way
actually, stay just like that

[Anonymous No.]

>>21090610
If you're grinding an anki deck trying to write down words just to remember them then I'm going to go ahead and guess that you haven't naturally begun outputting for real yet but hey I can't be here in these threads to hold your hand every step of the way sometimes you just got to have at least enough brains to realize what's good and bad studying.<div class="like-perk-cnt"><img alt="" width="77" height="13" src="//s.4cdn.org/image/nofile.png"></div>

[Anonymous No.]

>>21090834
>>21090836
if not luda maybe this was more appropriate https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oai1V7kaFBk#t=62

[Anonymous No.]

Where do you guys(legally/physical copy) get your LNs or other books? amazon.co.jp?

[Anonymous No.]

i just head over to the local book-off

[Anonymous No.]

>>21090875
I think it depends on where you live. A relative of mine lives near a store which also sells japanese stuff and sends me physicals sometimes, but otherwise you could also look at cdjapan.co.jp, shipping is kinda expensive but they have basically everything and don't care about your location and shit

[Anonymous No.]

>>21090574
MOOOOOOV (E) - OH SHIT NO STAY

[Anonymous No.]

>>21090875
I don't really buy physical LNs at this point although I do own a few. There's a Japanese book store in the city where I live and the price difference between that one and importing myself is negligible for most stuff so I would buy it from them there. So far I only bought weekly manga magazines there though.

From amazon.co.jp i only buy ebooks.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21090574
"get out the fuckin・・・ actually thats good nvm!!!"

[Anonymous No.]

i see many of you live in japan.
real jobs or english teacher?

[Anonymous No.]

おにいちゃん

いっしょに

べんきょうしよ

[Anonymous No.]

test

[Anonymous No.]

>>21091023
its number of dicks hes sucked

[Anonymous No.]

>>21091009
一人で勉強してろ

[Anonymous No.]

The layman: what is up homosexual
Me, a JET: 睥睨

[Anonymous No.]

Why do I have a bold button in my reply box? Does it do something?

[Anonymous No.]

jamal, my ninja, what's your score?

[Anonymous No.]

i dont need a fuckin score

[Anonymous No.]

Very, very early beginner here, still working my way through learning Hiragana and Katakana.

I feel like I'm filling up a bucket with holes. I can get groups of five characters at a time, but as soon as I'm 15 or 20 more characters on, I feel like I'm starting to forget the ones I learn earlier. I try to do a "overall" review every night of the characters I have learned so far, but the older ones never stick as much as the ones I learned that day or the day before.

How can I avoid this? CAN I avoid this feeling?

[Anonymous No.]

wtf is a score

[Anonymous No.]

test

[Anonymous No.]

>>21091129
who do u think ur talkin to kid

or have u forgotten your place already

>>21086120
>>21086130<div class="like-perk-cnt">&#x1F44C;</div>

[Anonymous No.]

>>21091155
I don't know who the fuck you are but you seem like a faggot so consider yourself filtered

[Anonymous No.]

>>21091124
There are kana apps on the net for drilling them in that keeps quizing you until it starts to stick.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21091155
if i didnt have something u wanted u wouldnt make posts like this @ me

wriggle and writhe in vain muppet

[Anonymous No.]

>>21091156
ｔｂｈ not much to nipah about right now bring me some good shit

[Anonymous No.]

You should be able to solve this.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21091195
haha benis

[Anonymous No.]

>>21091155
lol filtered retard

[Anonymous No.]

https://streamable.com/s/u4jbg/

Steve learns about M*tt<div class="like-perk-cnt">&#x2764;&#xFE0F;</div>

[Anonymous No.]

>>21091218
>>21091222
OH NO NO NO NO

How will Manchildren In Action ever recover?

[Anonymous No.]

>>21091218
>>21091222
its the same thing just remove the / at the end of the 1st 1?

also the clip wasnt particularly good in the 1st place id rather see steve critique matts japanese lol

[Anonymous No.]

>>21091218
>>21091222
>That reaction
Steve realizes Matt is nothing more than a dime-a-dozen "Learn Japanese My Way!" Literal Who. That's the smile a kid has when he sees a lone ant trying to move a bread crumb.

[Anonymous No.]

Two languages doesn't make a polyglot. In fact, being fluent in two language is the reality for most Europeans, or hell, even just people who aren't native English speakers. Let's not forget how long Matt has been studying Japanese as well.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21091238
yah like the question given 2 steve in the clip is so bad that its like whatever

[Anonymous No.]

>>21091222
>??? .........oh. heh. *leans back*
FUCKING SAVAGE

[Anonymous No.]

>>21091238
>Two languages doesn't make a polyglot.
Well, Matt does keep trying to learn Chinese, but he keeps failing.

So much for "anything can be interesting and nothing is boring if you meditate".

[Anonymous No.]

test

[Anonymous No.]

>>21091238
Let's be honest, all the ESL anons in this threads are far better at English than Matt is at Japanese.
You'll never hear anyone here talk about the "wide moaning" of English words.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21091254
seems like a good and mature manga<div class="like-perk-cnt">&#x274C;</div>

[Anonymous No.]

>>21091222
lol<div class="like-perk-cnt"><img alt="" width="32" height="32" src="//s.4cdn.org/image/[e-mail]"></div>

[Anonymous No.]

>>21091257
yep

[Anonymous No.]

Can I learn Japanese?<span class="fortune" style="color:#d302a7">

Your fortune: Godly Luck[/spoiler]

[Anonymous No.]

U can learn japanese!

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>21091310
Oh you guys were talking about some joke site feature. This shit didn't show with my setup so I thought the topic was some Japanese shit. Anyway, doesn't change the fact that Jamal is a beginner.

[Anonymous No.]

I'm proud of pewds incorporating more japanese in his contents<div class="like-perk-cnt"><div style="text-align:right"><img alt="" width="32" height="32" src="//s.4cdn.org/image/temp/verified.png"></div></div>

[Anonymous No.]

>>21091124

[Anonymous No.]

>>21091325
shut up flashtard

[Anonymous No.]

>>21090472
This article has to do with bilingual education in the classroom and not the input hypothesis. I guess you figured no one would actually read it and call you out for linking some irrelevant bullshit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21091325
https://streamable.com/w529u

[Anonymous No.]

i never thought djt would get so bad wed be linkin teh pewds lmao<div class="like-perk-cnt">&#x1F362;</div>

[Anonymous No.]

Did anki pull a fucking april fools joke.
It showed me I finished for today a couple hours ago despite me doing nothing today.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21091379
Did you miss the huge warning from earlier today saying don't sync Anki, because their main database got corrupted?
Hope you have a backup.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21090472
>angelfire
what fucking year is this<div class="like-perk-cnt">&#x274C;</div>

[Anonymous No.]

Aww I wanted to see another kanji duel..

[Anonymous No.]

>krashenites on suicide watch

[Anonymous No.]

Why is:
>この勇者が俺ＴＵＥＥＥくせに慎重すぎる
”The Hero is Overpowered but Overly Cautious”
What I'm asking is why is TUEEE = OP

[Anonymous No.]

>>21091403
where?

[Anonymous No.]

私はFUCKINGゲイ

[Anonymous No.]

>>21091471
it means crazy 強い dude

[Anonymous No.]

>>21091471
TUEEE = TSUEEE = つえええ = つえ = つよい

[Anonymous No.]

>>21086802
Those books need to be burned ASAP and replaced with a random assortment of ACTUAL Japanese books from Amazon.co.jp instead

[Anonymous No.]

>>21091481
わたしも同感です

[Anonymous No.]

>>21091471
強い (tuyoi) > つえぇ (tue)

[Anonymous No.]

>>21086845
>>21086865
NihaoMeow = Ben? Nice, I'm going to read the backlog of his posts in the premium chat(tm) now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21091502
i dont think thats what he was saying when he posted that but hey maybe its true lol

[Anonymous No.]

>>21091494
>わたしも同感です

[Anonymous No.]

>>21091471
as an appendix to >>21091491 and >>21091496
read this to understand why tsu = tu
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nihon-shiki_romanization

[Anonymous No.]

>>21091502
>NihaoMeow = Ben
i don't think so. there's just a few cultists on that discord who believe that nonsense

[Anonymous No.]

>>21091508
have u tried reading every single post in a djt thread

[Anonymous No.]

>>21091412
Jamal has nothing no skills to show. Him pissing his pants and running away is the natural course of action.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21091526
日本語で言えなきゃお前pussyじゃん

also shut up flashtard

[Anonymous No.]

>>21086845
>I think this goes even deeper than just not knowing kanji properly. It shows a pattern of behavior that says, "I have to skip the fundamentals in order to skip to what's cool and exciting."
Needed to hear that right now desu, have to learn Japanese pronunciation from scratch because I started off reading first and ended up influencing how I hear Japanese with English

[Anonymous No.]

>>21091508
Takes like six months to anki your way into being able to follow SoL shows.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21091508
this is a problem of your interests and probably to some degree your concentration. plenty of big-brained boys can consume this content no problem.. make the inference

[Anonymous No.]

>>21091496
>>21091491
>>21091486
>>21091520
Thanks for the quick responses.
Where do I search for these types of things? Or where do I learn them?

>>21091508
Stop breathing without taking in oxygen for about 3 minutes, it's long enough to deteriorate your brain but not kill you, but be careful, go too far and you'll become braindead

[Anonymous No.]

>>21091551
>Where do I search for these types of things? Or where do I learn them?
consuming more japanese

[Anonymous No.]

>>21091551
usually googling works if you can read japanese answers

[Anonymous No.]

>>21091551
>Where do I search for these types of things? Or where do I learn them?
Watch more anime.<div class="like-perk-cnt">&#x2764;&#xFE0F;</div>

[Anonymous No.]

>>21091508
why bother learning japanese if you have no desire to consume japanese content?

[Anonymous No.]

>>21091578
Read the post again.

[Anonymous No.]

>preorder wc3 reforged
>oh cool i get access to the original i haven't played those for over a decade
been going through the single player campaign and holy shit they don't make games this good anymore. i didnt do any reading or anki for the past 2 days because im playing nothing but wc3

[Anonymous No.]

>>21091530
お前こそ日本語で話したくないじゃないか？
そもそも、なぜ俺は日本語で話さなければならないのだ。語彙力と読解力は大事なはずなのに。
俺のチャットで打ち合おうよ。腰抜けめ。

>>21091549
I'll use the trip when I want bitch.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21091594
>そもそも、なぜ俺は日本語で話さなければならないのだ。
straight from the matt playbook LMAo

[Anonymous No.]

First: Matt got his comeback and djt mostly loves him.
Second: That german trip guy annihilates jamal into oblivion.
Third: soon (tm)

This is the year dekiru makes his 顕現 What will happen next?

[Anonymous No.]

>>21091643
djt liked matt at some point?

[Anonymous No.]

>>21091643
hey look a bunch of shit that didn't happen

[Anonymous No.]

I wonder if the anon who got to the point where he could read almost everything but couldn't understand spoken Japanese ever update.

>>/jp/thread/S16841145#p16856183

[Anonymous No.]

>>21091643
>First: Matt got his comeback and djt mostly loves him.
uhh, i don't know what djt you've been lurking, but it definitely wasn't this one

[Anonymous No.]

>>21091643
I will annihilate Jamal into oblivion any day because he is an eternal dekinai bitch, but don't comment on that in the same breath as saying something positive about that fuckboy m*tt.

[Anonymous No.]

itsudemo iiyo lol<div class="like-perk-cnt">&#x1F44C;</div>

[Anonymous No.]

>>21091790<div class="like-perk-cnt">&#x1F308;</div>

[Anonymous No.]

>>21091680
Oof, this is basically the "don't skip leg day" of japanese learning.
I can see how this'd happen easily if you focus on anki too much and don't know a language with pronounciations close enough to japanese.

[Anonymous No.]

fuck i need to unlock more of this gay perk shit<div class="like-perk-cnt">&#x1F641;</div>

[Anonymous No.]

Rolled 4 (1d6)

if 1 or 6 everyone gay

[Anonymous No.]

like this post so i can post more stupid discord emotes お願いします

[Anonymous No.]

悟り過ぎたかのような

僕はなんだか偉そうに人生の意味とは何なんだろうって決まり文句はどうせものすごく嫌いなのです。
その理由は言語というものの限界のせいかもしれません。我を完全に欠片でも残らざる失ってたある日、自分と含んで人の言うそしてすることが簡単すぎるではなかろうかというのに気づいた気がします。その日からあらゆるの感覚は歪んだか正体になってしまったのどちらというままでいました。兎に角自分の、他人でもの顔が全然見えなくなって人間関係の本当だと思った知恵も全滅。この数日は前の人生と比べればあんまり変わってないようなことで時間を過ごしたはずなのに、宇宙人と脳を入れ替わったような感じがたまらなくてつらい。

毎夜は悪夢をみるようにでもなって抵抗できなく精神病に近づいてんじゃないかな。どうしても無駄なので娯楽でこの残りの数十年を経験しよっか

[Anonymous No.]

Rolled 1 (1d6)

if odds everyone here is gonna make it

except >>21091860, shut the fuck up flastard

[Anonymous No.]

This is the kind of advice that DJT and /r/learnjapanese give out and share in common
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f5JuuRM-D2M

[Anonymous No.]

>>21091875
upboat x10000000

[Anonymous No.]

>>21091875
He went overboard there, it could have been almost believable for a little while.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21091875
who the fuck here tells people not to consume any digital media until 2 years in

[Anonymous No.]

>>21091890
check the date

[Anonymous No.]

DJT and /r/learnjapanese ARE NOT the same
This is what DJT would tell you to do
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8fJWvek29LM

[Anonymous No.]

>>21091869
>shut the fuck up flastard
you cant read japanese

[Anonymous No.]

>>21091875
>How to Learn Japanese in 2019
Shit, why didn't anyone tell me the way you learn languages changes depending on what year it is?<div class="like-perk-cnt">&#x1F4A2;</div>

[Anonymous No.]

>>21091901
yeah okay flashtard<div class="like-perk-cnt">&#x1F603;</div>

[Anonymous No.]

flashtards

gibe upboats

[Anonymous No.]

translate it weebs

[Anonymous No.]

>>21091928
>nigga
Is this a conjugated form of nigeru?

[Anonymous No.]

>>21091943
shut up flashtard

[Anonymous No.]

>>21091940
no it's from niggaru which means "to be a subhuman"

[Anonymous No.]

can some1 explain the niggeru meme ?<div class="like-perk-cnt">&#x2668;&#xFE0F;</div>

[Anonymous No.]

>>21091895
Meh. Maybe his approach is a little better than the average r/learnjapanese resident, but it's still no ajatt/mia. Hate M*tt all you want but the methods work. this dude made a big deal about pronunciation but still ended up having a huge 外人 accent

[Anonymous No.]

>>21091943
>this is an elaborate 3d chess ploy in which you pretend to be me pretending to be a shitposter to make me look worse at the end of it.
seek medical help flashtard-kun, i think you show symptoms of paranoid schizophrenia

[Anonymous No.]

>>21091943
sure. post the link.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21092001
It's here.
>>21087220

[Anonymous No.]

likeしてちょうだい

おにいちゃん

[Anonymous No.]

>>21092053
3xハグ＝1 like
キス=1 like
手コキ=3 like
本番+中出し=5 like