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New guide:
https://itazuraneko.neocities.org/
Old guide for those afraid of change:
https://djtguide.neocities.org/

Remember: Don't listen to any advice from DJT
前レス: >>21047581

>> No.21054470

Please don't turn this into another e-celeb thread.

>> No.21054476

thank god i was scared djt was gone forever what up pretty peoples

>> No.21054489

>>21054001
I don't think Matt's sentiments are that different. From what I can remember he's in favor of listening when you can as much as you can, but again it's just that passive immersion by itself is ダメ. I could be wrong about Khatz's sentiments, but I don't think he would cosign just passive immersion 24/7 either. We gotta be specific here.

>> No.21054507

I've gone through 300 words on anki so far. What should I read after Hanahira and Yotsubato?
Should I wait another month or so till I'm ready to read manga without furigana?

>> No.21054510

you guys are so pityfool. with all these shit talking, no real achievements... spending the day arguing about people who are making money and or dont give a shit about you guys... sad to see.

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>>21054507
hanahira is shit
choose ur own destiny
do not wait
you wont be ready until youve already done it

>> No.21054555

if it wasnt clear u should prob still read a few volumes of yotubato first though

>> No.21054577

>>21054151
Yes, when I need to look something up I alt+tab and check kotobank or something.

>> No.21054659

my fetish is really sweet middle aged men, any VNs out there for me?

>> No.21054701

>>21054659
maison de M is okay just don't pick 林 nothing good will ever come of chasing after a ノンケ no matter how cute he is

>> No.21054725

>>21054507
You’re better off jumping into your favorite anime with JP subs. Basically just treat it like reading and use the subs to quickly look up words you don’t know. Reading manga as a beginner is fucking aids.

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i still cant believe hes really dead

>> No.21054741

theres such a high chance of
>i was just running away from japanese this time im gonna learn japanese for real

>> No.21054780

>>21054741
if this does happen somebody itt has to go save him and make sure he doesn't ajatt and ruin his own life again

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domo konitiwa matto desu

>> No.21054953

MIA and AJATT are the only methods that work
DJT's slightly-better-than/r/learnjapanese method is guaranteed to make you fail 100%

>> No.21054972

mina genki ?

>> No.21054999

乾杯!
完敗!

>> No.21055030

姪 isn't a joyo kanji

>> No.21055071
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>> No.21055077

@21054953
You're a beginner.

>> No.21055083

>>21055077
A beginner who's going to use the only Japanese learning method that ACTUALLY WORKS

>> No.21055092

what even is djts method
arguing about rtk and matt all day

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>>21055071

>> No.21055095

I don't see how "memorize some shit and read visual novels" won't work. Take your meds bud.

>> No.21055120

>>21055094
chiba taro bringing it back for nihon

>> No.21055127

>>21055083
learn japanese before you brag about it

>> No.21055181

>>21054953
I have just started looking into AJATT. What is a simple solution to having loads of Japanese music and media on hand?

>> No.21055184

Have you all practiced your production tonight? Here's the sentence I spent the last 4 hours preparing (3 hours and 59 minutes meditating and 1 minute of writing).

あたしのアソコは超かゆいわ

21055181 The internet

>> No.21055186

>>21055181
download anime from nyaa.si
extract the audio to an mp3 player
now you have anime at your pc and audio for everywhere

>> No.21055198

I just heard Matt say this
https://youtu.be/XkOGUyKv_iE?t=2501
Sorry to everyone here
Focusing and developing a perfect native-like accent doesn't matter
If it stops you from wanting to even study Japanese in the first
Matt confirmed this too

>> No.21055201

>>21055181
jpopsuki for music
avistaz for dramas
aidoru online for idol shows
dunno about anime since i dont watch that

>> No.21055210

If Matt says it, then it must be true. FUCK man, I spent the first 3 months of learning Japanese focusing on pitch. Guess I'll switch over to RTK now.

>> No.21055225

>>21055210
Brush up on your Matt lore.
https://massimmersionapproach.com/table-of-contents/stage-0/perfectionist-path-overview/
Matt says to focus on Pitch Accent (in addition to OTHER things) in Stage 2 (ie after 6 months/1 year, depending on how long you set for each stage).
RTK happens in Stage 3 (ie after 1 year/2 years).

>> No.21055237

>>21055186
>>21055201
すみません

>> No.21055255

>>21055210
>Switching to RTK
You fucking idiot you're forgetting the meditation stage.

>> No.21055259

>>21055255
Do I look like some kind of fucking amateur at learning Japanese, kiddo? I've been at this for years already. I meditated about Japanese for 20 straight hours one time. I'm already at the point where I can already visualize myself reading Yotsuba. So think fucking twice before you talk to me like that again.

>> No.21055260

>>21055198
>Matt doesn't even know that perfect accents impossible for most people after puberty
Leave it to the savant to mistake him being in the lucky percent with thinking his method is good enough to defeat brain development.

>>21054953
>Methods where you read and listen a lot are the only ones that work.
Obviously. Nobody has ever gained fluency without doing those two things.

>> No.21055267

>>21055259
Visualize myself unzipping my fucking dick, LOSER.

>> No.21055275

>>21055260
>implying his accent is even good

>> No.21055278

>>21055259
i know you're shitting around but just fyi, you can't "meditate about" something lol meditation is objectively observing thoughts, not making more of them

>> No.21055280

You've just fucking ruined 3 months of hard work at immersion. I hope you're fucking happy.

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これちょっと興味ある…

>> No.21055284

>>21055278
Not him but there are different types of meditation.

>> No.21055289

Arnold Schwarzenegger lost his accent and uses a trainer to keep up the appearance

>> No.21055298

I always like to believe that his is all shitposting but lately I'm no longer convinced.

>> No.21055301

We're studying shitposting more than anything else, that's why we've gotten so good at it but are still so shit at Japanese.

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(>)>21055184
このスレに通う人は日本語で一言も言えないと思うよ。日本語を勉強することに興味なさそうだし、勉強について質問はほとんどない。怠け者の集まりとでも言うべきだろう。

>> No.21055306

>>21055301
speak for yourself I've done 10 fucking hours today of japanese and 20 mins posting

>> No.21055308

>>21055284
yeah, since meditation is only a topic on these boards because of matt, i assume when people bring it up they're referencing the kind he does; which is actually about practicing awareness, strengthening attention and allowing the mind to quiet, not thinking up scenarios.

>> No.21055317

>>21055302
いやちゃんと勉強してる人がいるんですよ。ただmattほにゃらecelebsってことばっか話したい人が圧倒的にうるさいだけだ。

>> No.21055324

>gaijin trying to write japanese
cringy

>> No.21055339

get your output outta my input

>> No.21055361

ちゃんと聞いてほしい。貴様はゴミ人間なものだから日本語を学ぶは無理だぞ。

>> No.21055388

Most anons are objecting to the idea of only doing active listening + background listening + audio-only i+1 flashcards for the first 1 or 2 years
Because "b-b-but I won't understand anything" and "it's SOOOOO hard"
Luckily Matt has just the right perfect solution to this problem
I just heard Matt say this
https://youtu.be/XkOGUyKv_iE?t=3115
So while you're doing listening-only active immersion for the first year
You're watching a TV show
Focusing on what's going on and what the characters are saying
(without subs of any kind)
What you're going to do is turn it into a game
Of spotting as many words that you can understand naturally (without seeing the written version)
Then spotting as many phrases then full sentences that you can understand naturally
After a year of this you'll have developed a solid native-like foundation in listening to Japanese
Your active study in Anki will be audio-only flashcards, audio in the front/word on the back, so only the Core 2k sentence will play, you'll hear it, try to understand it, and when you do, reveal the answer, which will only be the i+1 target word

>> No.21055391

>>21055388
And you have to do 1 hour max in Anki and AT LEAST 3 hours watching TV shows without subs and trying to understand as much as you can naturally from the sound and visual context alone, and NOT skip a single day.

>> No.21055398

>>21055388
>>21055391
And the premade deck (Core or Tango, the latter being recommended by Matt now over Tae Kim) is only to gain a foundation
TV shows with an external sub file are best, but you're not going to watch with subs.
The reason for choosing shows with subs is
When you hear a sentence and understand it naturally except for 1 word, that's when you use subs2srs to make cards out of the episode, and you use the timestamp to get that i+1 sentence out. Then you put it into Anki and make a card for it to study the next day

>> No.21055399

>>21055388
sounds retarded

>> No.21055407

Another fantasy garbage method for the retards who cant even think for themselves for half a minute by the garbage salesman.

>> No.21055412

>>21055388
Any scientific backing for any of this? Any practical backing? As far as I gather this isn't even what Matt did, how would he know it's better?

>> No.21055413

>>21055388
>b-b-but I won't understand anything
Then it's not i+1, jesus.

>> No.21055425

>>21055412
ふざけるな

>> No.21055426

when did the official method become no reading for 1 year

>> No.21055437

>>21055426
It's always been like that, the vocal minority has always been too afraid to start reading before they finish core 20k.

>> No.21055439

>>21055426
When some people were crying about reading being too scary I guess. Gotta accommodate all the paying retards no matter what.

>> No.21055442

>>21055413
Only the Anki sentences have to be i+1, the media you watch doesn't have. Matt has already addressed your point here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yeOmc1nRGG4

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I don't know why the fuck y'all make such a big deal about what motha fucking content you practice with, I literally just fucking search up 爆乳 on youtube and now I've got rec's full of big titty Japanese bitches to listen to, it's not that hard

>> No.21055450

>>21055442
>Only the Anki sentences have to be i+1, the media you watch doesn't have
>Matt has already addressed your point here
Well he's wrong, I've already suffered through that video and it's actually retarded, and I use that word sparingly. He's going against almost 60 years of research because he has an uneducated hunch.

>> No.21055456

>>21055443
thanks for that vocab gain

>> No.21055457

>>21055407
Yeah, Matt's such a genius salesman that:
1. you don't need to send him a single cent to make use of his best advice
2. he spends most of his time developing AJATT 2.0 when he's not studying for college (so he can go to Japan with his degree, so he can develop even better content for us)
3. only asks for $5 so you can see the preview videos, and the full versions covering the essential theory get released to the public for free eventually
4. only $10 to discuss the method in his Discord - and only $1 if you want to see the latest of his innovations
5. his consulting fee isn't even that high considering how valuable his time is and how every hour working on fine-tuning MIA is ($100 for a 90 minute consult, you shouldn't even be considering this option until you're fluent and have invested good money in acquiring premium media - btw, from which not a single cent goes to Matt personally)

>> No.21055459

>>21055450
Yeah, 60 years of research backing Genki, Tobira, and other /r/learnjapanese favorites. Go ahead and use that then.

>> No.21055467

>>21055457
So what's he paying you for shilling his shit on internet forums then? That's right, nothing cause it's a fucking cult. You're the Japanese learning equivalent of Jehovas witnesses.

>> No.21055479

I think Matt is just a huge troll trying to burn out noobs with his one year listening only and 5 hours minimum study every day recommendations

>> No.21055499

>>21055459
I see you're trying to put words in my mouth. 60 years of research backing comprehensible input and i+1. 60 years of research saying that you learn when you understand what is said. 60 years of research saying that immersion does not work if you don't understand what you're hearing.

>> No.21055529

Every day I check /r/learnjapanese for a few minutes just to see how much of a desolate wasteland it really is.

Gives me the chills still. It's like visiting a dekinai themed holocaust memorial but it's actually still going.

>> No.21055556

>>21055388
why do you keep blogposting on your journey through matts videos
do you think we havent already watched them all
thats just you buddy

>> No.21055559

i prioritize mining common words with kanji or readings i don't yet know is that bad

>> No.21055564

>>21055388
dude i fell out of love with matt when he changed his mind on RTK. you'll have your rude awakening when he changes his mind on something else.

>> No.21055579

>>21055564
Stopping to shill doing RTK first thing up front was probably the single most logical change he ever made to his shitty study plan.

>> No.21055582

>>21055579
agreed but it made me realize his word can't be trusted to the point that you should follow his exact recommendations.

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>>21055582
>>21055564
A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds, adored by little statesmen and philosophers and divines. With consistency a great soul has simply nothing to do. He may as well concern himself with his shadow on the wall. Speak what you think now in hard words, and to-morrow speak what to-morrow thinks in hard words again, though it contradict every thing you said to-day. — 'Ah, so you shall be sure to be misunderstood.' — Is it so bad, then, to be misunderstood? Pythagoras was misunderstood, and Socrates, and Jesus, and Luther, and Copernicus, and Galileo, and Newton, and every pure and wise spirit that ever took flesh. To be great is to be misunderstood.

Basically you should be less trusting of people who don't change their minds, because that means they are rigid in thought and set in their ways even if they are wrong.

>> No.21055597

>>21055592
you are misunderstanding. it's commendable that he changed his mind. but if he got something so time-consuming as RTK so terribly wrong it also means you shouldn't rely on everything he says unless he presents very compelling reasons or gives compelling evidence.

>> No.21055600

>>21055592
i agree with you but he doesnt really change his mind he just makes concessions to appeal to a broader audience while continuing to believe what he said originally

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>>21055597
>it also means you shouldn't rely on everything he says unless he presents very compelling reasons or gives compelling evidence.
You mean, like you should already do for literally everyone?

>> No.21055605

>>21055602
well no. some authorities can be more trusted than others. you shouldn't do something as drastic as only listening for an entire year because matt doesn't give compelling evidence or reasoning. you can't trust his word based on his authority as a proficient speaker alone. i'll sooner trust einstein than matt.

>> No.21055613

New insight learned from Matt
https://youtu.be/HXzrkX3apOk?t=7800
So it turns out ます, ながら, and all the particles are actually words in themselves, and are all defined in the J-J dictionary.
Japanese grammar looks much easier now. I was leaning towards Chinese because the latter's grammar is ridiculously easy, since all grammar are just 1- and 2-kanji words. In Japanese they're just slightly more difficult and longer.

>> No.21055614

>>21055602
u gotta understand most kids these days esp in the japanese learning community really dont want to be responsible for any of their decisions of beliefs
see for example >>21055605

>> No.21055616

>>21055613
dolly coulda taught u that

>> No.21055619

>>21055613
cure dolly

>>21055614
it's not even about wanting to. it's just how it is. this is why matt has to be stopped.

>> No.21055621

>>21055605
>well no. some authorities can be more trusted than others.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argument_from_authority
Mate come on, you gotta think a little

>> No.21055632

>>21055621
authority is a heuristic. who is more likely to know what's true or false when it comes to physics, einstein or jamal? that doesn't mean citing or appealing to an authority makes your argument true. it just increases the chances, but there are caveats to that. for example some fields more frequently publish research that is harder to replicate than others, which weakens their authority.

>> No.21055635

>>21055632
ur heuristic was broken from the start if it ever increased matts credibility lol

>> No.21055639

>>21055635
i changed my heuristic after realizing how wrong i was

>> No.21055640

why do people in this thread worship mattvsjapan? hes a neckbeard and dedicated the last 8 years of his life to japanese with no intention of going there, if im going to learn japanese, its gonna be 3 or less years, not a decade

>> No.21055641

>>21055632
Einstein being more familiar with physics in no way means you should ever accept anything he says without "compelling reasons or compelling evidence". Einstein published papers about his thoughts to back them up. That's why he's an "authority", not because he's just a genius that everyone unquestionably agrees with. People don't cite Einstein directly, they cite his papers.

>> No.21055648

>>21055641
>without "compelling reasons or compelling evidence"
should the average person believe that the earth is round despite not knowing how or being unwilling to test it themselves?
>That's why he's an "authority"
he's an authority because other experts cite his papers. then laymen cite him.

>> No.21055650

>>21055619
A NEET who gets a 500 check mooched off from taxpayers every month is going to stop Matt who earns 2500 a month by helping lots of people learn Japanese to native level, sure.

>> No.21055654

>>21055640
>if im going to learn japanese, its gonna be 3 or less years, not a decade
Nice try, Nick. Also what's so bad about devoting the rest of your life to mastering Japanese culture? Western and Southeast Asian culture sucks ass I'd rather weeb it up for decades

>> No.21055665

>>21055302
minna wa dokoka ni hajimeta hou ga ii

>> No.21055668

which nick the nick that knows more japanese than matt lol

>> No.21055671

>>21055668
He doesn't anymore. He ragequit Japanese in July 2018. It's March 2019 now and it's deteriorated to being on life support, and Nick hasn't shown any signs of getting back in the groove like Matt did (after the 3 hour video).

>> No.21055676

matt would style all over nick.

>> No.21055681

>>21055671
hed prob still beat matt in a rap battle for at least another year
and that aint cuz matts gettin better thats cuz nick has トラウマ
also u cant blame him he got owned pretty hard in japan
which was his fault but the aftereffects of that u gotta cut him some slack for

>> No.21055707

>>21055681
Nick could have gone home, regrouped, and moved to Tokyo or another prefecture to another round of study abroad. He was studying at some mid level city in the middle of nowhere, of course the professor stuck there would defend some chinkette who was giving him the sucky

>> No.21055713

Does this shit even work?
Anyone had success with it?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YOY9a66U2a8

>> No.21055715

おはようおにいちゃん

さくらが

さきそうでさかない

ことしのはなみはどこにいきますか

>> No.21055721

>>21055713
ねぶそくになるとおもうよ

>> No.21055727

>>21055681
>>21055707
This guy was the worst incarnation of incel loser I've ever seen. Acting like he was entitled to anything by that girl and then instead of just quietly breaking things off trying to shit all over her like the sissy drama queen he is.

He got everything he deserves for it and if he spends the rest of his days never speaking a word of Japanese again all the better.

>> No.21055730

>>21055707
kid took it to heart that he was in the right and felt absolutely betrayed to learn that society doesnt work that way
unfortunately his way of coping was to blame japan and pretend it couldnt happen anywhere else
maybe its for the better that way at least he didnt drop out of japanese high school and call his dad to fly back home and then continue grinding japanese for years until finally deciding to quit for good and meditate only to realize he didnt have any hobbies or future and picked it back up for the patreon gig
i dont think he got the sucky i mean he wasnt gonna pay for it

>> No.21055737

貧乳 > 爆乳

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>>21055737
正しい

>> No.21055743

>>21055737
ぺったんこをすき

>> No.21055746

>>21055713
>japanesepod101
Matt has something to tell you about that
https://youtu.be/YZjcNVUBYwQ?t=395

>> No.21055753

>>21055746
Hey Matt can you stop shilling your videos please?
It's getting really annoying.

>> No.21055754

if ur gonna spam matt links plz figure out that timestamps dont work on embeds with youtu.be links

>> No.21055758

seriously why is the はparticle read as wa.
couldn't they just update it to わ or make another kanji.

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>> No.21055824

>>21054507
Flyable Heart

>> No.21055825

firefox just updated and borked my userchrome.css and my default settings for the browser and the extensions. i am PISSED. what the fuck happened? did my profile get corrupted because of the bluescreen that happened before the update?

>> No.21055854

>>21055713
I only did a little reading on this but apparently your brain can get use to the sounds of the language but that's it, you're not going to learn anything beyond that. And to that end, you could just listen to some subbed anime for a few days.

>> No.21055857

>>21055635
to be fair matt is the einstein of the japanese learning community. we trust physicists because they got us to the moon. we trust matt because he revolutionized learning by popularizing the input hypothesis. moreover there's people like nick, khatz, patrick, etc. who have gotten good using it. so you'd be a fool not to trust him.

>> No.21055882

This ironic mattposting has to stop.

>> No.21055885

>>21055882
i'm not being ironic. i add some flair to my posts but i'm right.

>> No.21055889

idk i cant really blame them 4 doin it but like weve pretty thoroughly owned matt at this point can we let him have his training arc out of sight leading up to when he makes his next rehearsed speaking eloquent perfect sounding japanese and then own him some more then ? lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dql2DJCyz0I

>> No.21055890

fuck is this lmao

>〆ました

>> No.21055894

its a lil slipper dude

>> No.21055895

>>21055890
rarepotato posted about this once, said it was actually fairly common in VNs

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Matt is 24 and his bestie is 30. Wonder how these two met each other.

>> No.21055913

>>21055753
I just tested it on Firefox 66 w/ Tampermonkey + Linkify Plus Plus + YouTube Link Title + ccd0 4chan x and it worked, you dumbass hater

>> No.21055915

what is your retention rate on the next day for words you just added into anki?

>> No.21055928

>>21055727
That was Nick's first love, cut him some slack
>>21055730
Matt is at a legit high level though and he's gotten many others to where he is, he deserves every dollar of his Patreon cashflow, name someone else who devoted his life to getting good at Japanese for close to 10 years like Matt has (to the point of being more autistic over pitch accent than even Dogen, and obsessed with reading the atmosphere even though he's a man)

>> No.21055930

>>21055910
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xVzK79undb0

>> No.21055933

>>21055930
Wow I just cried
I'll listen to the next Matt video on my list now and come back later with some insights later (if I get any)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n6hdIzYOxQI

>> No.21055934

>>21055930
>>21055928

>> No.21055946

>>21055885
You are right, M*tt did talk about those things. If you're implying M*tt is right, though, you're wrong.

>> No.21055950

>>21055895
i think last time i saw it was in an ero scene

>> No.21055962

>>21055933
do what u gotta do

>> No.21055993

i checked the script here u all go
「それに……○○だってこれ、初めてのセックスなんだもん、 ふっ、ぁぁん……中出し〆でお願いしたいよー……。 んっ、くぅ……その方が……大人っぽいからねー……」

>> No.21056004

imagine getting a boner to that lol

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21056007

毎日毎日同じバカ騒ぎを繰り返すのは楽しいか?
意味あるのか?くだらん。
我々これで本当にいいのか?良くないだろう。しっかりしろ、貴様ら。

>> No.21056024

>>21056007
if u wanna write a post with a stern tone do not start it with 毎日毎日 imo

>> No.21056031
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我々はこのスレを占拠した。投降せよ、愚かなshitposterどもめ。

>> No.21056039

>>21056031
at least this one sounds kind of like bad guy of the week from power rangers lol

>> No.21056050
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>>21056004
two lines later u get おちんぽ……逃がさないよー
have another on the house

>> No.21056057

>>21056050
lol rename djt おしっこの通り道

>> No.21056100

>>21054953
> MIA and AJATT are the only methods that work

[Citation needed]

>> No.21056169

Anyone have a PDF/epub of:

魔女の宅急便
霧の向こうの不思議な町

>> No.21056217

itazuraneko website down?

>> No.21056236

>>21056217
The owner realized how bad it is.

>> No.21056238

>>21056217
Taken offline to comply with new EU directives.

>> No.21056254

>>21055928
>even though he's a man
I don't get why that's relevant. It's a Japanese thing, not a female Japanese thing.

>> No.21056260

>>21056254
western men wouldn't concern themselves with such faggy things

>> No.21056293

>>21056260
a lot of western men are fags

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>>21056293
A lot of Japanese men are fags as well.

>> No.21056415

i only mine words with a frequency rank below 10k

>> No.21056421

>>21056415
I don't care.

>> No.21056423

>>21056421
others care like jamal

>> No.21056424

>doesn't want to read manga
>tries to read LN's
>a ton of unknown words
>cries
Please help me

>> No.21056429

what is the japanese word for "scans"? want to look for some magazines around the web

>> No.21056430

>>21056424
Same here. Here's what I've been doing: Reading LNs anyway with a hover dictionary and hating every second of it.

>> No.21056433

Found this great interview where Matt walks you through his life in a more polished way (the 3 hour video is more candid and deep)
https://www.altinsider.com/podcast163/

>> No.21056434

>>21056430
>>21056424
I use a hover dictionary while reading LN and while its exhausting it gets the job done. I'm also picking up things much faster like this.

>> No.21056435

>>21056430
Just wait until the one you want to read is only available in PNG form.

>> No.21056437

>>21056429
スキャン. But also try name in japanese + zip or rar. manga-zip.net has a lot of magazines but shitty hosters so you'll have to wait a lot to get your shit (paste everything into jdownloader and if you have a vpn, use it and switch the location every time you hit the limit)

>> No.21056442

>>21056434
>>21056430
Really? I feel like I'm not learning anything that way, even though I re-read the sentence afterwards to make sure that I actually understood the word and stuff

>> No.21056445

>>21056433
thanks for the link dude. mattbros unite!

>> No.21056444

>>21056435
There's a limit upon where I won't bother any more for the time being, because it's too much of a pain in the ass.

In this case it's better to just read something available until you've improved enough to tackle the other thing.

>> No.21056446

>>21056437
What a helpful answer. Thank you, anon!

>> No.21056448

>>21056446
No problem :D Have fun. I got manga that way until I found DJT.

>> No.21056449

>>21056442
well i went back and reread the first few pages of my first LN and could understand a lot more than i did a few months ago. so it works but it's hard to notice day-to-day.

and i brush up a lot on grammar. and add a few words to anki every day.

>> No.21056453

>>21056435
... KanjiTomo? It's not perfect but faster than looking up manually

>> No.21056456

>>21056442
I feel the hover-dictionary LN reading has improved my Japanese faster than anything else up to this point because it enables me to actually read things I'm interested in at a speed that doesn't make me want to kill myself (read manual looking shit up or looking up kanji individually by drawing / radical)

>> No.21056458

I now see why Matt and Nuke are friends
8efzul
83pjj9

>> No.21056460

>>21056445
No problem, glad you're benefiting from a dose of Matt's know-how

>> No.21056475

>>21056456
Do you do anything else with the words you find? Do you anki them or write them down or something?

>> No.21056490

>>21056475
Absolutely nothing. I'm focused on comprehending what I read and thinking about whether to add each word or even worse, stopping to write them down is just distracting.

>> No.21056497

>>21056423
i only care about the shit worth carin about which is now certainly a rarity here

these threads have gone off the deep end and they might finally be over for good soon

>> No.21056504

>>21056497
what can i do to improve? what should i post about?

>> No.21056510

>>21056497
That doesn't seem very likely at all.

>> No.21056512

since this is the subject now, when will trying to read light novel stop making me want to kill myself? its too many words...

>> No.21056517

>>21056512
prolly when ur 20 years deep

>> No.21056523

>>21056512
3 months to stop wanting to die. 12 months to start actively enjoying.

>> No.21056525

>>21056512
Only one way to find out.

>> No.21056527

>>21056517
no no, im asking seriously. if tthats your case, how long did it take to read stuff at a decent speed without having to look most of the words in a sentence?

>> No.21056531

>>21056523
so its gonna take a while, huh?
did you reach this point yet?

>> No.21056534

>>21056531
Of not wanting to die yes but I haven't reached the actively enjoying part. I can feel it coming within the next few months.

>> No.21056537
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Mattposting day in, day out, every single hour of every single thread. You're never going to learn Japanese this way, you fucks, even if you DO have some kind of unnatural obsession with a random JSL with a shitty accent. Get the fuck out of here and consume Japanese. I know you're not because you're here literally all the fucking time. You are responsible for every single mistake resulting from your misapplication of your personal agency, and that includes all the time you waste away here not getting better at Japanese. No, listening to anime or dramas in the background is not getting better at Japanese. No, finishing your Anki reps for the day and shitposting on DJT for the next eight hours is not getting better at Japanese. The only way you're actually going to get any better at Japanese is by reading and listening to Japanese. The more the better. Any time you spend arguing about pointless crap here on DJT is time you spend either not learning Japanese or not getting your shambled life together so you can do something with Japanese once you know it. Get the fuck over your obsession with forcing people who don't know you and know nothing about you to hear your nonsensical dribble. Or are you THAT desperate for confirmation that you found the right golden lamb, but not desperate enough to give him 10 bucks a month so you can actually talk in his discord instead of just seeing the chatlogs go by? Jesus christ, get the fuck over it already. It doesn't matter. Nothing about DJT or Matt matters. None of the arguments you're having here matter. Nothing that you say about Japanese when you can't even describe the flavor of your own breakfast matters. None of the validation you get from other people who bought into the same bullshit matters. Get the fuck out of here and learn Japanese.

>> No.21056539

Once you finish the monolingual transition, it won't take any more time to make a monolingual card than a bilingual one. Often times it's even faster. If you learn a word bilingually, you are creating a false association you will have to break later, which wastes time. The monolingual def gives you a much better idea of what a word means, so it shorts the length of time it takes to acquire. The act of comprehending the language in the language is also a great exercise the expedites the speed at which your brain adjusts to the language.

>> No.21056547

>>21056534
gotcha! hope you manage to read it and actually enjoy. im a bit far from that yet, but lets see how it goes

>> No.21056553

>>21056527
prolly a few years i cant really nail it down to anything exact cuz i didnt sit there every day beating my head against the wall on text i cant read or understand and mostly bounced around looking for only comprehensible input unconsciously cuz u know ppl naturally like to understand things

then as time went on more things became more comprehensible but i still certainly have my niches and if i stray too far from them i will run into more words that are unfamiliar though not all of them have to be looked up though its prolly a good idea to anyway lest u start reading 広義 as kohhgoh or just never learn how to pronounce some words cuz u already know what i means who cares just lazy ass shit like that

>> No.21056564

>>21056553
would you mind sharing what were the easiest things you started reading? or was it completely random stuff?

>> No.21056576

>>21056539
That's why Matt advises that the only bilingual thing in your card should be the one single i+1 word, to minimize the mental damage of English translations

>> No.21056583

>>21056553
>広義
stfu this isn't and has never been funny

>> No.21056587

>>21056583
direct yourself to >>21056537

>> No.21056591

>>21056587
why did you reply to him and not jamal?

>> No.21056593

>>21056591
jamal isn't a mattposter, and already knows japanese

>> No.21056596

>>21056593
>jamal isn't a mattposter
are you serious? that's exactly what that meme is about you disingenuous prick.

>> No.21056601

>>21056596
>are you serious? that's exactly what that meme is about
yeah and?
>you disingenuous prick.
why are you so mad

>> No.21056606

>>21056601
the double standard. you don't actually care about shitposting or mattposting and you demonstrate that by calling out someone's response to a mattposter instead of that mattposter. but if you can admit to that then we're on the same page.

>> No.21056614

>>21056606
tldr

>> No.21056618

>>21056564
console rpgs and manga basically

i was never trying to learn japanese just play with japanese things and figure them out or think that i did (ull go thru this a lot)

once i got a computer and later on the net i found jesus in hentai games and never looked back

>>21056591
if i say something about the word 広義 and u have some buttblasted reaction to it doesnt that indicate ur the 1 with the problem m8 lol

>>21056596
ive brought up matt sometimes out of nowhere but the majority of hte time i just lol @ what u guys bring me theres a difference

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dang that's like the 4th time i've called you out on that and you retreat every time. ez

>> No.21056624

dunno what you're talking about bro i've never associated with you before take ur meds

>> No.21056628

>>21056618
>if i say something about the word 広義 and u have some buttblasted reaction to it
i'm fine with you posting about it. in fact i encourage it. i just don't understand that guy's weird doublestandard when it comes to what you can post and what others can post.

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it's not a double standard, you just lack self awareness. he doesn't give a shit what you post about, he's observing a problem keeping certain people from learning japanese.
leave this thread behind and study japanese instead. it's that simple. djt doesn't matter. if you stay here you're not going to learn japanese, straight up.

>> No.21056636

>>21056628
idk he prolly just "gets" it

not saying its not a double standard but all is forgiven if its good unlike that other dude who posts all kinda dumb matt shit no1 not even he himself can lol at

>> No.21056639

>>21056635
>keeping certain people from learning japanese.
you can drop all pretenses of caring whether or not some nobodies learn japanese. you just dislike the shitposting. admit that, drop the doublestandard, and move on.

>> No.21056642

imagine reading "djt doesn't matter. if you stay here you're not going to learn japanese, straight up." and going "yeah this guy sure must hate shitposting" when they're defending jamal, king of shitposters

>> No.21056649

by the way, "double standard" is two words.

>> No.21056655

was i mistaken i thought mattposting was only when u metaphorically fellate matt not when u have a laugh
i prefer to just be called a shitposter u know

>> No.21056661

no you're right mattposting is the weird cult thing not what you do. not sure how the mattposters misunderstood that, it's pretty obvious. maybe they're just this obsessed with themselves.

>> No.21056684

>>21056642
im the shit poster王 lol

thing is my posts are actually well thought out and crafted with care

>> No.21056721

>>21056655
mattposting is just posting something related to matt and all such posts should be discouraged because they provoke one another. it's how you know this guy is full of shit:
>>21056661

>> No.21056727

>>21056721
the irony lmao

>> No.21056728

>>21056622
Learning Japanese since 2007
Still stuck repping 300+ flashcards a day
Still has a very obvious gayjin accent

>> No.21056738

>>21056727
i mean they should be discouraged because it would help accomplish his stated goal of wanting matt fellating to disappear since it's just epic ironyposters trying to out-irony one another.

>> No.21056754

havin a laugh isnt irony
im just tryin to share a laugh u can laugh or ignore it or shit up the thread ur choice i aint takin responsibility for ur issues

>> No.21056782

Calvin is in college working towards a degree in accounting. Matt dropped out of college and is a NEET sponging off his dad.

Calvin realized forcing himself to learn a language wasn't making him happy and stopped. Matt ate lunch in a toilet stall while repping flashcards and generally threw his seishun away and obtained no happiness and will never be satisfied with his level at a language he hates.

Calvin encourages others out of the goodness of his heart. Matt will encourage you if you pay him $10 a month.

Calvin has some issues to work though but he is clearly the better person.

>> No.21056788

>>21056754
no i'm saying that when you laugh at matt it encourages the irony posters.

>> No.21056793

>>21056782
Who is calvin even? I'm late to the party.

>> No.21056795

>>21056782
Matt is self-employed, not a NEET you disingenious reddit scumbag, he earns $2500+ on Patreon by providing his supporters with the highest quality advice on learning Japanese in the world. That's 30k a year, and he's on good terms with his family too, so he probably pitches in with the rent and shit.

>> No.21056802

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ju4-bw3a48E

>> No.21056829

>>21056788
and im sayin aint my problem
they would prob post less if they got less yous but it aint a big deal
if uve been on djt long enough u can scroll past a big load of shit without bein too choked up about it

>> No.21056834

>>21056829
i agree it's the other guy who can't stand that matt posting

>> No.21056854

>>21056782
Calvin is Dan 2.0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gYyj2UIU1xU
btw I finished the Luke interview, watching this now

>> No.21056856

>>21056795
take your meds

>> No.21056880

>>21055910
Did anyone download the yogamatt livestream or is it gone forever?

>> No.21056892

>>21056854
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gYyj2UIU1xU&t=146
skipped to this and its all i needed to hear
it really is karbin if karbin didnt die

>> No.21056904

>>21056880
Was that a livestream of the YogaMatt podcast?
The YogaMatt Podcast #1 | Is Language Learning a Waste of Time?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NInGVNQkqxc
The YogaMatt Podcast #2 | Fiction Vs. Nonfiction
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OQ-YrNbMR0E
The YogaMatt Podcast #3 | The Two Paths of MIA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YZjcNVUBYwQ

>> No.21056905

>doing moogy method
>1 year in and already N2 level
Still can't believe it's actually working holy shit

>> No.21056912

>>21056905
>N2
Nobody gives a shit about that glorified piece of toilet paper
Unless you're a thirdworlder who needs the extra visa points or you're trying to apply for a gayjin company lmao (instead of immersing with a Japanese company)

>> No.21056919

>>21056904
Yoga and Matt made a livestream, it wasn't a podcast though. Matt deleted it quickly after and it was never released.

>> No.21056925

>>21056892
Got that impression too
Calvin is too wishy washy and doesn't actually want to either
1.
>>21056919
I missed that, I discovered Matt in early 2018 but I only started digging his stuff hardcore this week
I'll check his premium Patreon and see if it's there
I know he had a livestreamed Q&A, which is on Patreon

>> No.21056929

>>21056904
no it was when yoga flew to matts parents basement to hang out and check out the manga wall and make love and they streamed for an hour
i think they deleted it immediately when it ended

>> No.21056932

what happened to nukemarine? He hasn't uploaded anything for a while now

>> No.21056937

>>21056892
Got that impression too
Calvin is too wishy washy and doesn't actually want to
1. learn Japanese/Chinese/Arabic for its own sake
2. want to watch/read native media
3. want to make friends in the language
4. wants a Japanese/Chinese/Taiwan gf
He just wants brownie points for "look at me imma language lurner"
Wonder why he's into Matt and MIA and not more casualfaggot bs like fluent in 3 months

>> No.21056945

>>21056932
He posted this 3 days ago
>Mar 24 at 4:00pm
>Milestone - Paying Others For Their Hard Work
looks like he outsourced making deck #9047 to someone else

>> No.21056957

Nick could have gone places, he was legit Chad-tier good looking too
Look at how good BOTH his spoken and written Japanese is
https://soundcloud.com/mattbonder/nick-speaking-japanese
https://pastebin.com/raw/qDAs3hkR

>> No.21056963

>>21056919
Just scrolled his entire Patreon and couldn't find it, ah that probably would've been a gem worth rewatching

>> No.21056968

>>21056795
> Matt is self-employed

i hope he's reporting that income properly including filing quarterly estimates. be a shame if he isn't and got audited.

>> No.21056969

>>21056968
patreon reports income above a certain amount automatically

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DOUBLE TURKEY

>> No.21056984

>>21056969
unless they're deducting pay and submitting it to the irs and state collection agencies he'll still need to file and pay

>> No.21057001

>>21056968
u dont even have to pay quarterly u can just pay the penalty when u do ur return at the end of the year its never been that bad for me

worth paying over filing 4 times a year LOL

>> No.21057017

fuck off jamal, just follow matt already

>> No.21057045

id like to follow him

into a dark alley and rough him up a bit

>> No.21057050

>>21055457
kys cattle

>> No.21057056

>>21057050
Lol, you're the cattle. Go feed at the trough of the latest DJT flavor of the month textbook and Anki deck, faggot

>> No.21057065

>>21055092

>> No.21057072

are there any mattdrones actually follow his 50 steps

>> No.21057099

>>21056963
Add this to your to watch list.
Matt's Chinese learning Update.
He uploaded it in May 2018 on his second channel, but deleted it a month later.
Part 1: https://streamable.com/fxrip
Part 2: https://streamable.com/ywprk
Part 3: https://streamable.com/xonri

>> No.21057105

>>21057056
why do that when u can just go play a video game and learn something new in japanese immediately

>> No.21057112

マットが末等

>> No.21057161

>>21056957
he got himself in a bit of hot water when he tried to explain the input hypothesis
pretty impressive though

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>tfw taking Japanese classes at uni next year
See ya later, dekinais

>> No.21057182

>>21057099
Thanks for sharing these fine gems, didn't know he used to have a 2nd channel.

>> No.21057190

>>21057176
Can't wait to hear you say KER NEE CHEE WAH because you're going to do Output on Day 1, faggot

>> No.21057196

>>21057161
Of course it is
Nick started at 17
became fluent at 19
if only he didn't get oneitis over some chinkette fulltime TA parttime escort

>> No.21057201

>>21057176
Listening to girls called Stacy squeaking out “ah ree gar toe go zai moss oo” is not to your advantage. Especially if you are the girl called Stacy. That chick needs help.

Classes suck. Not only do they cost money, but they’re boring and they don’t work. You only need look as far as the number of people taking Japanese classes, versus the number of people who are actually good at Japanese. The people in charge of the classes will tell you that it’s because “Japanese is hard”; “Japanese is different”; “it’s the kanji”; “those East Asians are so inscrutable; they just don’t think like we do”. Bollocks! Absolute bollocks! There is nothing fundamentally difficult or different about Japanese. Very normal human beings speak, read and write it on a daily basis. The problem might be with the way we are learning it, but it would be unprofessional, dishonest, and an act of the most severe bollocks, to blame the object of our learning.

I’m not saying you can’t get anything valuable from a class. And I’m absolutely not saying that teachers are bad people. On the contrary, there are wonderful, dedicated teachers out there. They’re victims, too. They know it doesn’t work. They know that success in their classes is only tangentially related to success in actual Japanese. Many of them even admit that “you need to do Japanese outside the classroom”, but too often, that takes the form of goofy busywork assignments. Filling in the blanks. Woo! I’m going to be the best Japanese-blank-filler ever!…Please.

What helps in the real world of Japanese is something almost all classes punish: the ability to wing it. Of course I believe in preparation, but real life situations rarely follow the plan in all but the most general sense. The plan gets twisted and even broken, you forget a word and have to explain your way around it. Stuff happens, and you need to be able to think on your feet. In class it’s called BSing. In the real world, it’s called common freaking sense.

Perhaps classes and textbooks for Japanese made sense when they had a monopoly on information. Back in the day, outside of a class, there probably were no Japanese materials readily available to a person outside of Japan. And certainly for a rarer language, like Dzongkha, you might want to seek a class because materials are so scarce (but that’s a big “might”).

In any case, with the end of their monopoly on information, the typical Japanese language class as it exists is long past its expiry date. You have the information in your hands now, and you can use it far more efficiently than a class can. And yes, a lot of it’s unedited information, but the real world never did come neatly shrink-wrapped in mind-numbingly boring vocabulary lists with chapter headings. Plus, a lot of the stuff out there actually is edited. For example, Japanese dictionary companies have both an economic incentive and a Japanese cultural bias to do things well. So there. Class 0, You 1.

I’m 23 years old and very arrogant, but I still believe in asking people who know better for help. In this on-demand, consultative form (like Dr. Mary Noguchi’s Kanji Clinic), a class would have use.

But if you’re signing up for a typical “watashi wa sumisu desu” textbook-centered Japanese class hoping for a teacher, through the magical power of the textbook written by the experts at the Takagawa-Jones Institute for Samurai Studies and Good Japanese, to inject the special invisible Japanese sauce (that they keep in the closet at the back of the room) into your brain in 45-minute increments every weekday…then don’t hold your breath. Instead, save yourself the time and heartache, take your precious money and go buy some anime, or whatever, just something in real Japanese. Take a shopping trip to Amazon.jp. Trust me, it’s better this way…

>> No.21057210

didnt read lol

>> No.21057222

>>21057201
>I’m 23 years old and very arrogant
why you seem like a dumbass

>> No.21057226

make sure u use google b4 replying 2 that post

>> No.21057230

>>21057210
retweeted, favorited, replied with fire and laughing and ok emoji

>> No.21057231

>>21057176
If it's using TPRS or some other approach based on Krashen's work then congratulations!

If it's a standard textbook skill-building drill-and-test course then you have my pity.

>> No.21057234

i was thinking of linking to the post and here anon already posted it
one of khatz's better posts

>> No.21057240

>>21057201
>implying Stacy would take Japanese

>> No.21057246

id fuck stacy full force in ass mouth vagina lol

>> No.21057266

>>21057240
why not

>> No.21057267

>>21057099
the part about proving to himself that everything he says is right
and then he quit chuugunigo again and karbined the video
a constant reminder dont go mia not even once

>> No.21057279

i had no idea sekiro was available on PC or that it was a from game. sorry to the dude who shilled it a few days ago

>> No.21057285

>>21057266
Stacy would at most do French because of romantic memes, or maybe Spanish. Japanese is too hard and full of weebs.

>> No.21057294

>>21057285
you're just making up stereotypes that apply to like 10% of people. stacys are found in any bullshit class that isn't stem.

>> No.21057295

>>21057279
its actually not that good like the first couple of hours is real fun but its boring as hell after that

its no bloodborne thats 4 sure

>> No.21057319

>>21057295
as long as it's as good as or better than das3 it should be OK. i actually liked das3 and a lot of people here seemed to dislike it.

>> No.21057323

haven't wanted to play sekiro at all just want to study

>> No.21057328

>>21057319
i think its ultimately worse than every souls game cuz theres not much that changes in the gameplay between hour 1 and hour 20 whereas u can experiment with diff weaps/spells etc in souls

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>>21057201
lol nice write-up, and very true from what i observed when i took classes in college myself, mostly from watching others.

i think i was one of the lucky few that actually got something out of japanese classes because:
1. it introduced me to a lot of real life friends who were into japanese culture and language, which i didn't have before,
2. it got me a paid job helping the teacher, which meant i got to talk to her in japanese all the time as well as lead tutoring sessions where i had to know what i was talking about to teach other students,
3. my japanese teacher introduced me to a really sweet japanese girl who i got to have conversational lunches with every week, and
4. it eventually got me connections for a job in japan, where i am now.

i was really blessed with my experience of japanese classes.

that being said, i wish i'd started doing the things that really had big effects on my fluency from like 6 months in. i didn't really start going with raw anime listening and reading manga till like the end of the first year. and even then, other kids in the class would look at me like i was crazy when i said i was watching raw anime and reading raw manga. now, none of them are fluent at all. i think i'm the only one who came out of those classes with a considerable level of fluency. there was one other girl too, but she had already been studying on her own since highschool with drama CDs and idol stuff, plus she was chinese so kanji was easy for her.

>> No.21057401

I can't wrap my head around what exactly kanji is?

ok im really sorry if this is a very commonly asked question but i cant' find any website that explains it properly.ok so iv got a few questions. should I think of kanji as like ideograms? that's what iv been trying to do. why does a single kanji have so many different meanings? is it ok if i write everything in kana form without writing anything in kanji form? what' the point of kanji and why shouldn't i just write everything in kana form?

>> No.21057402

they are chinese house drawings nothing more nothing less

>> No.21057417

>>21057401
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SX3h9irApwg

>> No.21057423

>>21057417
i hate this faggot he ruined my language learning strategies for like 2 years

>> No.21057433

>>21057401
Kanji are the pictographic representations of eternal metaphysical principles. For more, see Cure Dolly's site:

> To anyone reasonably well versed in traditional metaphysics, the meaning of some of the basic kanji is immediately and transparently obvious. Unfortunately, Western writers on kanji origins, armed with the beloved “progress” ideology and a total ignorance of traditional thought, work hard to obscure this. Let us try to set the record straight.

https://learnjapaneseonline.info/2014/03/29/kanji-what-the-western-experts-cant-tell-you/

>> No.21057434

>>21057423
Yeah, but the kanji explanation is pretty okay. I could explain it myself, but I'm too lazy to type that right now.

>> No.21057439

>>21057433
Don't listen to that guy, he's talking esotherical bullshit

>> No.21057440

i know what kanji are
i was just posting something from /r/learnjapanese

>> No.21057457

>>21057440
if you were attempting to make fun of them i think that was a fail, because its a pretty valid question.

>> No.21057476

>>21057457
no it isn't, also the question "why can't i just write everything in kana" is always funny

>> No.21057484

>>21057476
it's not obvious if you haven't started learning japanese yet

>> No.21057506

>>21057457
its valid until it asks about writing without considering reading at all lol

>> No.21057556

そうか

わたしはゲイか

>> No.21057570

whenever a gaij*n tries to speak japanese near me it's like pissing in my cereal

>> No.21057580

>>21057570
ORESAMA WA KIMI NO SHIRIARU NI UNKO SHIMASU

>> No.21057583

who shit in ur oatmeal

>> No.21057588

>>21057476
yes it is, for someone coming from languages with very different writing systems. stop acting high and mighty. some of you on here are really desperate to feel like you're better than someone.

>>21057506
it's possible they already considered reading, which would explain the first part of their question. as for writing, if they only learned to write everything in kana but could read kanji, then unless they're planning to live in japan or write handwritten letters to japanese people, it really would make little difference.

>> No.21057595

ive been reading and listening for months and still cant say anything but そうか それはそうかも これは俺のペン わたしもゲイ 頑張りましょうね

>> No.21057597

>>21057588
ur post reminded me that no matter how bad these threads are right now weve still come a long way from the every1 posturing hella hard meta

>> No.21057599

>>21057595
i've been doing the same for more than months and can't say anything either but i know that's because i'm not actually listening or reading enough so i'm not really internalizing anything yet.

>> No.21057615

>>21057588
stupid noobs who can't read wikipedia to answer their entry level question should be made fun of

>> No.21057616

>>21057597
u showed me the light when u made fun of me for half a thread

>> No.21057628

>>21057616
dang what did u do

>> No.21057638

>hear 場合 said out loud
>been reading it in my head as ばあ・い all this time
>it's actually ば・あい
i mean it makes sense to read it like this but my mind is still blown

>> No.21057644

>>21057638
dang u really need to watch that anime dude

>> No.21057669

>>21057628
i told someone to stop outputting lol

>> No.21057698

Done with the Dan interview (some guy who was a mix of Nick and Calvin)
Listening to the Marquis interview now
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KElish3lTk4

>> No.21057707

>>21057698
why are you posting them when anyone here can go through his channel

>> No.21057718

>>21057638
what? why would you think it was ばあ・い
if you know which sounds go with each kanji... unless you didn't?

>> No.21057720

>>21057707
He desperately wants these yous

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>>21056537
that image

>> No.21057726

>>21057718
the power of brute force core 6k kanji learning

>> No.21057735

>>21057718
i just assumed it was like that never thought about it

>>21057726
didn't do any core deck actually

>> No.21057741

>>21056782
based Calvin, he may have blocked me on twitter for literally no reason but he's still cool in my book.

>> No.21057746

>>21056854
Holy shit that intro, I haven't cringed that hard in a while.

>> No.21057756

>>21057556
うん
ゲイ

>> No.21057763

is calvin posting at least acceptable? love that lil guy.

>> No.21057766

>>21056905
Moogy?

>> No.21057803

>>21057766
kinda like MIA but more inefficient.

>> No.21057821

hahaha I got rejected for a coordinator position through JET despite relevant experience and N1 japanese, almost certainly because I had autistically argued with my main interviewer about the merit of an answer I gave. don't forget: you're here forever.

>> No.21057832

Matt and Nick are the best at Japanese, but Brit, Yoga, Marquis, and Luke all got asian gfs and those two geniuses didn't

>> No.21057846

>>21057821
you got rejected cuz they want dekinai japanese majors

>> No.21057847

>>21057821
>I had autistically argued with my main interviewer
ull never nihonjin ni naru

>> No.21057853

>>21057821
People here keep forgetting but JET doesn't actually want people who can speak Japanese.

>> No.21057862

>>21057832
who cares

>> No.21057872

>>21057853
How difficult is it really to get into JET?

>> No.21057873

>>21057853
Why though?

>> No.21057885

>>21057853
their coordinator position claims to want strong japanese, but their test is written at like a n3 level (maybe? I don't really keep track) with most of the kanji glossed so I have no idea what they actually want. it certainly isn't people who read japanese

>> No.21057886

>>21057803
More like MIA without the bullshit that doesn't do anything, doesn't help, and is likely to make people quit. Moogy didn't even use Anki, which often makes intermediates quit. I admit that Anki is very useful for beginners, so copying Moogy's learning experience to the exact details isn't a good idea, but MIA is too far in the opposite direction as far as immersion-based learning approaches go.

Also, reading isn't bad for you. Lack of listening is bad for you. Big difference.

>> No.21057893

>>21057821
consider it a blessing and get a better job

>> No.21057895

>>21057872
Not at all if you are a native English speaker, have any Bachelors degree and don't really know Japanese. Bonus points if you've never actually been to Japan in your life.

>>21057873
They want retards they can exploit for a while, not someone who will land in Japan and turn around to get an actual job somewhere else once they're in.

>>21057885
They want someone with just a bit of Japanese, compared to the TA position, where they just want a trained monkey.

>> No.21057902

>>21057895
You'd have to be an even bigger retard to get a serious job in japan lmao

>> No.21057903

>he could teach english in a billion better cooler countries but picks japan


LOL

>> No.21057907

>>21057872
There are 17,000,000 people living in the Netherlands. For 2019 there is ONE ALT position available.

>> No.21057910

>>21057907
and how many people are applying?

>> No.21057913

>>21057910
1

>> No.21057915

>>21057910
two

>> No.21057919

adding lol to the filter

>> No.21057921

>>21057910
drei

>> No.21057922

>>21057886
yea that's what i mean. you're not as dedicated so you don't use something as simple as anki which can only help with retention. moogy's approach is more inefficient, but if you're autistic then you'll still get there in the end so no big deal.

>> No.21057925

>>21057919
nice self own

>> No.21057927

>>21057638
lol same
it just makes sense for ba to be elongated into baa

>> No.21057930

>>21057927
ばあ
まあ

dont do that

>> No.21057931

>>21057638
uh it's ばわい dude

>> No.21057933

>>21057903
>cooler countries than japan
don't exist. if you live in one western country you've lived in them all. and everything else is 3rd world and shit. nice thing about japan is that it's got the standard of living of a western country but is more exotic.

>> No.21057936

>>21057922
>you're not as dedicated
I don't see how reading for several hours a day, every single day, for months, isn't dedicated. Moogy also learned faster than anyone who's gone through "normal AJATT/MIA with heavy Anki use so far.

>> No.21057938

>>21057936
>I don't see how reading for several hours a day
ajatters do everything you do plus anki.
>Moogy also learned faster than anyone who's gone through "normal AJATT/MIA with heavy Anki use so far.
we went over this before and know this is not the case.

>> No.21057945

>>21057931
nah dont do this either its not the time

>>21057933
literally any sea country is better for u

>> No.21057949

>>21057938
its not plus anki cuz anki is a minus

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>>21057938
>ajatters do everything you do
AJATTers read less than Moogy did. Straight up, across the board.
>plus anki.
They use Anki too much. Using Anki too much is actively bad for you.
>we went over this before and know this is not the case
Nope. Just like we went over last time, the people you were using as examples of AJATT/MIAers learning faster than Moogy were lying about how long they'd studied Japanese.

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>> No.21057964

traditional ajatt is actually the best

>> No.21057970

traditional matt is actually the best

>> No.21057971

>>21056945
Close. I'm paying back the guy that typed up all the Tango books. I'm also paying a guy to make image montages for the books. Considering paying another to create slideshow videos for the Tango decks (put the image montage to work, using Pimsleur like repetition, although its pointless in my opinion people might like it).

There's really not that much of learning material to make as Tango seems to be really popular and effective.

>> No.21057975

>>21057957
sure but they listen more.
>They use Anki too much
yea but an hour or two of anki out of 6+ hours of active immersion is better than none.
>the people you were using as examples of AJATT/MIAers learning faster than Moogy
no they didn't.

>> No.21057983

米国を再び偉大に

>> No.21057985

Not only do I not know the most efficient learning method but I don't even know Japanese. Pretty sad how people sometimes argue with me as though I'm worthy.

>> No.21057995

Just do anki reps and read a bit of manga, LNs, or VNs every day. Consult grammar guides when necessary.
It sounds failproof, but it might not be.

>> No.21058003

>anki
not important

>> No.21058004

>>21057975
>sure
Not "sure". The difference is overwhelming.

If his VNDB is to be trusted, Moogy read something like 20 to 30 full length VNs in Japanese before he took the N1. A normal full-length VN is something like 400k to 1500k characters long. Let's go with 25 VNs and 600k characters each for the sake of simplicity. That's 15m characters. A normal novel is something like 200k characters long. That's like 75 something full length novels worth of text, over the course of something like eight or nine months. That's more than Matt has read in Japanese in his entire lifetime. And Moogy only kept on reading after that, he has more than 200 VNs under his belt.

>they listen more.
Moogy watched anime without subtitles of any kind. For pleasure.

>yea but an hour or two of anki out of 6+ hours of active immersion is better than none.

Only as an absolute beginner. As an intermediate, an hour of reading is significantly more helpful than an hour of Anki. In fact, spending more than 30 minutes on Anki per day is an indication that you're abusing Anki and not getting much out of it for the effort you're putting into it, which is the main problem with MIA's approach to Anki.

>no they didn't.
They did.

>> No.21058024

Oh yeah and most VNs are voiced, so you're not going to run into Matt's theoretical "but your accent is going to be fucked up" issue. Which you shouldn't trust anyway since Matt's accent is so god-awful despite all the "listening" (almost all passive) he did.

>> No.21058027

>>21058003
cavemen didnt have anki and they learned their ancient languages and had more sex than u to boot

>> No.21058031

>moogy method
Need a quick rundown

>> No.21058033

>>21058004
>The difference is overwhelming.
i agree but the difference in listening is overwhelming too. ajatters actively listen for 4 hours minimum and passively listen all day.
>As an intermediate, an hour of reading is significantly more helpful than an hour of Anki
anki is always more efficient in terms of retaining vocab. it just won't teach you japanese.
>which is the main problem with MIA's approach to Anki.
i agree.
>They did.
they didn't. matt is the only one who spent significant time learning in class before doing ajatt. nick, ben, and patrick started ajatt when they started learning japanese.

>> No.21058038

>>21058031
read all day. that's it. watch raw anime when you feel like it.

>> No.21058039

>>21058031
enjoy anime

enjoy hentai games

attain a reasonable level of nihongo proficiency

work on several shitty official tls

post on twitter

>> No.21058043

>>21058027
as if my goal in life is to have as much sex as possible you retarded nigger lip ape

>> No.21058046

an attitude of cynicism will fuck up your learning more than anything. a receptive and enthusiastic mind will help you stay motivated and focused. a lot of you are shooting yourself in the foot when you’re constantly focus on shitting on other people who are trying to learn.「その人はできない」優劣ってことばっか考えてるなら、必ず意識下は「自分もできない、劣ってる」って覚えていくんだ。

>> No.21058048

>>21058043
dont nigger me u fucken idiot

>> No.21058052

黒んぼ

>> No.21058054
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>>21058031
This but several hours of reading/listening daily instead of just 30 or 60 minutes.

>>21058033
>the difference in listening is overwhelming too.
You have no idea how much Moogy actually "listened" to Japanese.
>ajatters actively listen for 4 hours minimum
No they don't.
>and passively listen all day
Background listening is literally 100% worthless. Putting Japanese music on repeat is more useful. Really.
>anki is always more efficient in terms of retaining vocab.
Anki is not more efficient if you read and listen so much that you're going to see everything more often in a natural context than you would in Anki. Anki is only useful when you're a beginner exactly because you can't read and listen enough for it to outpace Anki, but input can and necessarily will outpace Anki once you're intermediate.
>nick, ben, and patrick started ajatt when they started learning japanese.
I don't know Ben's situation. Patrick lied about when he started. Nick is the one who got NTR'd, right? He went outside of the AJATT method.

>> No.21058060

>>21058046
All of you retards should shut the fuck up for a minute and listen to this guy because it's the only good advice you will get out of this garbage pile of a thread.

>> No.21058061

>>21057895
let me guess, you went on jet and had a shitty experience so now you’re projecting that on the whole program? sorry your experience sucked but that doesn’t apply to everyone.

>> No.21058070

>>21058061
I would have never applied to something as shit as JET because I'm not a walking garbage can with no self worth.

>> No.21058071

As always you fucks fail to display a mastery of basic reading comprehension.
It's ALL japanese, ALL the time. Need I repeat myself? ALL the time. They are listening to, or else reading, Japanese 24/7. No breaks. Headphones on all day and night. ALL the time. That's how it works.

>> No.21058075

Anyways, you should always remember that the typical AJATT/MIA victim is like Calvin. They go hardcore for a few weeks, let their studies go lazy for a month or two, start over a couple times, then either quit or give up on the method entirely.

>> No.21058082

>>21058071
matt said that don't matter anymore though the only thing that matters is your 5 hours of active listening a day and meditation

>> No.21058085

>>21058054
>You have no idea how much Moogy actually "listened" to Japanese.
ajatters literally listen all day dude. moogy CAN'T have listened nearly as much. most of his time was spent reading.
>No they don't.
they're all pretty clear about that.
>Background listening is literally 100% worthless
when you're not paying attention it is but you're supposed to pay attention to it when you get the chance. adds up to hours of active listening.
>you're going to see everything more often in a natural context than you would in Anki
simply not possible except for the most frequent words.
>but input can and necessarily will outpace Anki once you're intermediate.
i don't understand how people even intuit themselves to this position. it's not even true in your native language if you wanted to learn new words right now.
>I don't know Ben's situation.
handsome asian.
>Patrick lied about when he started.
patrick wouldn't lie.
>Nick is the one who got NTR'd, right?
yes
>He went outside of the AJATT method.
no he didn't.

>> No.21058087

>>21058071
The amount of people doing AJATT according to this definition must be fluctuating roughly around zero

>> No.21058089

>>21057853
>People here keep forgetting but JET doesn't actually want people who can speak Japanese
this statement is bullshit. people who can speak japanese and go on jet, have a much better time in pretty much every way. especially if you’re placed in smaller towns.
JET doesn’t require it, but it does increase your chances of getting in, helps a hell of a lot in daily life, and saves a ton of stress and loneliness. most issues people have on JET are related to their lack of proficiency in japanese (isolation, issues with setting up utilities, being treated like a puppet in the classroom, etc)

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>>21058085
>ajatters literally listen all day dude.
Literally, actually, unironically stopped reading right there. If you wanted to get any ideas through to me you should've been more reasonable. There's no point in arguing with someone who lies to themselves this blatantly. I'm going to go masturbate or something.

>> No.21058099

>>21058046
笑うときは笑え

そんだけだ

>> No.21058101

>>21058070
>I would have never applied to something as shit as JET because I'm not a walking garbage can with no self worth.
you definitely are just that (or at least that’s how you see yourself) and everything you’ve said so far proves it.

>> No.21058105

>>21058098
imagine getting owned on a message board so bad u quit and go jack off lol

>> No.21058106

i don't know exactly what the JET life is like but i imagine you are forced to teach little japanese kids english through their shitty curriculum and it doesn't seem very interesting

>> No.21058109

>>21058098
wtf are you talking about? i'm going off their personal testimonies. ben talked about listening when taking a shower by playing japanese on a speaker and even listening during class.

>> No.21058111

>>21058098
as if keeping your headphones in all day while you do stuff is hard and unbelievable

>> No.21058113

listen to drama CDs instead of paying attention to class, good idea that will definitely work

>> No.21058114

>>21058106
basically that and ur living arrangements are likely to be trash and ur only friends will be other jets/gaijins and the japanese ppl are gonna talk mad shit about u 24/7 cuz in a homogeneous society everyones got their nose in every1s ass all day every day and they like it

>> No.21058121

>listen to drama CDs
BUT WHERE THE FUCK DO I FIND TRANSCRIPTS? PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF GOD SOMEONE HELP ME

>> No.21058123

>>21058121
watch 10000 hours of eng subbed anime and u wont need them retard

>> No.21058124

Here's a life hack to save harddrive space:

Instead of downloading several hundred different episodes of anime, just listen to the same episode of a single anime several hundred times. You'll get your listening hours up, while keeping those gigabytes down. Credits go to Dolly for this nifty trick.

>> No.21058126

>>21058123
help me jamal or stfu

>> No.21058128

if you need transcripts you shouldn't be listening to long form audio with no visual queues

>> No.21058129

>>21058121
just challenge yourself to figure out what's happening without having to read it

>> No.21058131

>>21058099
笑うためでもなんでも、自分の言うことは意識下にはどんな影響を及ぼしてるか分からない人は無知。

>> No.21058136

yosh

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fHiGbolFFGw#t=252

>> No.21058155

>>21058106
if you like kids and your japanese is good you can have a great time, meet lots of people and enjoy easy money. oh and you have to have a good, likeable personality because otherwise it’ll be difficult to make friends, and that goes for literally anywhere.

>> No.21058159

>>21058155
yeah i don't want to meet people or kids

>> No.21058176

>>21058131
それだから

わたしはゲイ

>> No.21058228

>>21058159
then don’t pursue any work that involves socializing or children lol

>> No.21058281

Before I make a fool of myself and make people hate me, is this kind of humor acceptable in Japan?
Can I be funny like this in Japanese? Can I say this sorta dumb shit and people will laugh?

This shit made ME, a gaijin laugh, but from what I understood from you guys, Japanese people have different kinda humor.

https://youtu.be/D1l0x5GcJEw

>> No.21058283

合コンって言うより「拷問」。

>> No.21058284

>>21058281
i guess with that vid specifically japanese ppl will find it funny for different reasons than u do

>> No.21058299

420 moyase

now that takes me back

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>>21058281
Japanese humor is rather mysterious.

>> No.21058320

>>21058300
After the third loop I noticed they have boobs.
Are those... female?

>> No.21058348

>>21058320
Yes. You answered your own question.

>> No.21058349

>>21058300
luckily theres some dudes who "get" humor

https://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm9342289

>> No.21058350

>>21057907
What the hell does the Netherlands population have to do with anything?

>> No.21058363

>>21058300
It's so simple that you're looking for a deeper meaning.

>> No.21058388

>>21058300
https://files.catbox.moe/o273uh.webm

>> No.21058391

>>21058388
this link is a computer virus

>> No.21058393

>>21058391
this poster is an idiot

>> No.21058396

>>21058393
nice self own also dont sign ur posts

>> No.21058408

>>21058388
I laughed
I guess I have Japanese humor

>> No.21058415

>>21058396
can't wriggle yourself out of this one you worm.

>> No.21058418

>>21058388
>that look
nice desu ne!

>> No.21058422

>>21058415
i said dont sign ur posts

>> No.21058438

Can ~はおろか and ~どころか

Be used interchangeably?

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A special message for all you dekinais.

>> No.21058495

>>21056424
why don’t you want to read manga?

>> No.21058504

>>21058124
dogen also suggested this. but with a movie instead of an episode of anime.

>> No.21058528

>>21058124
Why don't you just delete the episodes after watching?
That's what I do.

>> No.21058533

just ask mommy to get u some more megabytes lol

>> No.21058576

The sea names in Japanese sound great:
Mediterranean Sea: 地中海 (ちちゅうかい)
Black Sea: 黒海 (こっかい)
Yellow Sea: 黄海 (こうかい)
Red Sea: 紅海 (こうかい)
Yes, the Yellow Sea and the Red Sea sound the same in Japanese. Is this where pitch accents come into play?

>> No.21058581

>>21058054
>Anki is not more efficient if you read and listen so much that you're going to see everything more often in a natural context than you would in Anki. Anki is only useful when you're a beginner exactly because you can't read and listen enough for it to outpace Anki, but input can and necessarily will outpace Anki once you're intermediate.
What about when reading 5 paragraphs of a novel will produce like 20 anki cards, or one episode of dialogue-heavy anime will produce over 50 cards. I don't know if I should use anki or not.

>> No.21058586

>>21058576
actually its just the same shit dont worry about it

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>>21058576
>Yellow Sea: 黄海 (こうかい)
>Red Sea: 紅海 (こうかい)
Why Japanese people?

>> No.21058597

I need the answer to that Anon's question. I frequently talk about the Black, Yellow, and Red seas all day long and so I want to make sure I'm not misunderstood.

>> No.21058604

>>21058593
u gotta understand to japan its the same fuckin thing conceptually

u should be happy they were willing to give them different kanji to really differentiate them

>> No.21058663

>>21058593
I wonder if they こうかい naming こうかい and こうかい the same as こうかい

>> No.21058669

smfh

>> No.21058675

>>21058581
In principle Anki can help by making you remember some of those words that you're bound to encounter a couple of times more often faster. But if your vocabulary is small you'll most likely add heaps of cards in a short amount of time with no indication which of these make sense to learn earlier.

Personally I will therefore only add a card if I encounter a word in the same text at least roughly 3 times. This automatically eliminates almost half of the vocabulary present in any single text. But I'm not autistic about keeping up exact counts either.

In principle, if you use html light novels and the likes where you got plain text, you could run a word count on it and choose to only add cards that appear at least n times in the whole thing.

>> No.21058676

>>21058581
If you can read for an extended period of time and your reading speed is faster than, like, thirty characters per minute, a few hours of daily reading is almost certainly better than Anki.

>> No.21058682

>>21058675
in principle ankis fuckin gay

didnt read the rest

>>21058676
i wouldnt put any conditionals on reading just look at some fuckin words on a thing where they mean something instead of in ur idiot cards where they dont

>> No.21058707

>>21058676
not if you’re looking up words every sentence and can’t remember any of them. then your “reading” is just a jumble of dictionary definitions

>> No.21058712

I learned a lot of 広義 words today. How was your day?

>> No.21058724

>>21058707
this isnt the case if u watched ur 10000 hours of eng subbed anime

>> No.21058746
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21058746

You ok wanikani? Wanna talk about something?

>> No.21058787

>>21058746
it's a meme

>> No.21058822

>>21058746
いやそれより、すぐ下の例文は気になったけど

>> No.21058835

>>21058675
anki can do this with morphman and an external list of most common words to make a database

just add everything you don't know to anki and it will pick what's good for you to learn with minimum effort after you set it up
the hard part is understanding morphman
I personally find it extremely useful. especially using subs2srs to create thousands of sentence cards.

matt drone out

>> No.21058876

>>21058835
so how do you use it? is there a simple tut somewhere?
i’m enjoying my anki usage and seeing lots of tangible gains. it would still be nice to optimize even more if possible.

>> No.21058887

>>21058876
watch the cult leader's youtube video

>> No.21058910

最近出会った類語(in the wild, cemented with anki):
口ごもる と 言い淀む
不意打ち と 奇襲
適確 と 当該
平ら と 平べったい
治安 と 秩序
凸凹 と 凹凸w

>> No.21058916

(  ̄д ̄) 凸 >>21058910

>> No.21058954

>>21058916
可愛いw

>> No.21058958
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21058958

Hey guys, I just got through my first cycle of every card in Wareya's VN Core deck over the course of 3 weeks. My Masada World Box also just arrived. I haven't studied any grammar before. Which masadaverse game should I jump into first? Cheers.

>> No.21058964

>>21058887
>>21058876
yea, matt has good videos and articles on the topic.

>> No.21058968

>>21058576
they got the same pitch accent lol

>> No.21058994

gam fuckin bare

>> No.21059024

わたしは童貞くせに色ボケ

>> No.21059049

>>21058958
dies irae, good luck

>> No.21059054

dies imgay

>> No.21059134

i showed my psychologist how do i do my reps today rate

>> No.21059154

>>21059134
what?

>> No.21059159

>>21059154
I think he showed his psychologist how do he do his reps today rate

>> No.21059167

>>21059159
it all makes sense now

>> No.21059174

>>21059154

how i do my reps*

i showed her ankiweb on my phone and did some mature cards from core6k

i got them all right and she was impressed i think

>> No.21059191

>>21059174
100% retention rate on mature cards is a good thing. Congratulations anon.

>> No.21059256

Incoming shitstorm about Matt's mispronunciations of DJT.

>> No.21059265

He commented on djt?

>> No.21059279

>>21059265
>DGT
ftfy

>> No.21059295

>>21057957
the fug is this graph(?) supposed to show?

>> No.21059308

>>21059295
literally whatever you want it to show my friend. open your mind, unleash the induction

>> No.21059326

thank you for your chart jamal. i'm really liking xchange

>> No.21059356

>ディスる
Seriously, Japan?

>> No.21059361

>>21059256
>kalibree
how did he manage to come up with the least acceptable possible pronunciation of calibre

>> No.21059362

i wanna comment on his video that i didn't give him permission to link djt

>> No.21059402

>>21059356
still better than http://zokugo-dict.com/31ma/macru.htm

>> No.21059417

>>21059326
if u like x change ill give u another 1 not on the chart

"water closet"

>> No.21059434

ever forget whether you read something in english or japanese?

>> No.21059440

idk never thought about it

>> No.21059448

>>21054538
>a jamal post with actual content
holy shit
so, where do you put togayjicockay no gayline?

>> No.21059459

>>21059448
Geyline is とてもやさしい.

>> No.21059465

>>21059448
i havent read it it looks like shit i will not read it i will not put it on the chart

i cant stop yall from putting it on the chart but i wont be the one

>> No.21059481

is matt really allowed to just freely tell people how to pirate stuff like that

>> No.21059486

>>21059481
nope but he will anyway

>> No.21059494

matts gay i hope he fucks off and finds some meaning in his life

>> No.21059537

>>21054135
I read a few VNs using OCR.

>> No.21059605

>>21059465
Ley Line is actually an epic scenarioge, not anywhere near as shit as it looks.

>> No.21059622

>>21048763
>>21053955
Aaaaand, done.

It would've been nice if I could've pulled off 3 routes in 3 days, but it ended up being 4 because I was really tired on one day and didn't read much.

Anyway, looking forward to starting something new tomorrow, but I still haven't decided on what yet. Too tired to figure that out now though since I really wanted to finish this route today and ended up stayed up late just to get it done. おやすみ〜

>> No.21059625 [DELETED] 

i can't sleep because i have to take a shit but someone has been in the shower for like an hour. pieces of shit.

>> No.21059633

>>21059605
not gonna happen

i read bye on a whim and btw i really recommend it but the only other hentai game im interested in rn is musica as its going to mark the death of overdrive and thus bring us one step closer to the death of the medium

>> No.21059635

>>21059537
so that’s what i’ve been doing, and the OCR i use works perfectly when the background is solid, but it straight up goes retarded when the background has patterns OR the kanji is really complex :/

>> No.21059803

>>21059622
Good work anon. Hope you enjoyed it.

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21059808

>>21059625

>> No.21059873

>>21055094
>Chigasaki """Jurian"""
Is this one of those kira-kira name?

>> No.21060056

>>21059633
>i read bye on a whim and btw i really recommend it
Where did you get it from?

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21060225

>>21058958
>Which masadaverse game should I jump into first? Cheers.
Uuuh, I'll just say that I don't think you should be playing Masada games so early. Like, I am 100% a proponent of both reading early, and not being intimidated by hard games. I am also a proponent of of Masada games not being as hard as they are said to be.

But uh, regardless, you do NOT want to read a Masada game early on into your studies with no reading practice/grammar study/whatever. Like, Dies irae for example is a very abstract game. Fights are almost never "He punches but I block with elbow and explicitly punch him in his weakpoint which is his lower stomach." They're usually back and forth debates/yelling matches and whoever has the most GUTS wins. Like that is literally true. The battles in Dies irae are largely dialogue-based, and if you have a weak grasp of what's being said, none of them will be cool at all. Not only will you not appreciate the cool things Masada's doing with his prose, you won't understand what's going on. To say nothing of the broader plot! I have a friend who finished Dies irae and straight-up did not understand the plot. He didn't understand what had happened. Reason being, the plot is abstract. It's metaphorical. A good chunk of it's next to impossible to understand without intimate knowledge of the Masadaverse already, or otherwise an extremely good eye for subtle foreshadowing. All this culminates in the fact that in a game where you need to be very aware of the metaphors, allegories, and so on the author is pushing, a weak grasp on Japanese will SLAUGHTER you. I mean just RUIN the game. Like I said, my friend legitimately, 100% did not understand the plot. The simplest aspect of the game! He didn't get it, because it was too abstract and his Japanese too bad. There's no chart that appears on-screen explaining the true plot of the game. You have to pay attention and understand subtle things that bad Japanese will take a massive dump on. And even if you don't care about the plot, and don't mind finishing the game having no idea what happened, it remains that the bulk of the game itself (once you finish the SOL-heavy common route) are these extremely vague conversations that rely on subtext, and fights that are clashes of ideas not fists. In both cases, weak Japanese will just ruin the game. Maybe you've got such a boner for Masada that you won't be miserable skipping through conversations understanding nothing, but I really don't think it's a good idea overall.

tl;dr going anywhere near Masada games with weak Japanese is a death sentence, they're not as hard as people may think but they're still abstract, allegorical, and challenging texts that someone with weak Japanese simply will not be able to understand properly. And unlike say moege where not understanding things don't matter, there's a good chance you finish the game having not even understood the basic plot.

>> No.21060227

>>21060225
(Also I posted the first screenshot I took of the game, not one I thought had particularly hard text or anything, so don't misunderstand that.)

>> No.21060235

>>21057201
>>21057222
>>21057336
It's a quote from Khaz btw.
http://www.alljapaneseallthetime.com/blog/classes-suck/

>> No.21060241

anyone know some relaxing reads for someone with ~1k vocabulary (core2k/6k)
not practice, I just want to feel good understanding 80% of what i'm reading

>> No.21060254

>>21060241
unkochan

>> No.21060274

>>21060241
Yotsubato

>> No.21060284

How big is the difficulty gap between N2 and N1?

>> No.21060287

>>21060254
the letsplayer?
>>21060274
I've read it before but thanks, might be a good idea to re-read to see my progress

>> No.21060290

>>21059265
https://youtu.be/1CrlQHA9i0g?t=1015

>> No.21060296

>>21060287
no the childrens book on shitting

>> No.21060307

>>21060290
Imagine having such an inflated ego that you put your head on a Dark Souls character.

>>21060287
Try some NHK Easy then.

>> No.21060335

>>21060290
>half a dozen tutorials on pirating using other peoples resources
>ends the video saying give me the money you're not giving to the content creators
>>21055457
>you shouldn't even be considering this option until you're fluent and have invested good money in acquiring premium media - btw, from which not a single cent goes to Matt personally

>> No.21060345

>>21060290
Imagine making your money by cross linking other peoples resources and adding a bunch of tech support on top.

>> No.21060353

matt is awesome, he just gave us thousand of LNs for FREE

>> No.21060358

he used the outdated lib but dont you worry his loyal patrons helped out in the comments

>> No.21060368

>>21060353
yeah wtf why cant /DGT/ be that useful at least once?

>> No.21060375

Watch out for the people acting offended like they ever contributed anything to that resource site.

>> No.21060378

>>21060353
thanks matt for creating a library for us to pirate from,such a nice guy

>> No.21060380

>こんなんなってんねんなあー
This character is having a stroke and you can't convince me otherwise.

>> No.21060408

>>21060375
how much are you donating

>> No.21060419

>>21060241
あたしンち or 働かないふたり
no furigana tho

>> No.21060440

あっ間違えた
あたしンちはふりがなあるんだ

>> No.21060694

だらだら6じかんやるより

しぬきで30ぷん

がんばれおにいちゃん

>> No.21060741

Can someone tell me a good thing to say to the question:
Oh you know Japanese? Say something.

>> No.21060745

>>21060741
中出し気持ちいい。。!

>> No.21060752

>>21055668
>>21055676
>>21055681
>>21055707
>>21055707
>>21056957
Who is nick? does he have a youtube channel or blog? and who is patrick? i have not seen them

>> No.21060769
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21060769

The hardest part of learning Japanese is figuring out what sounds they're trying to convey with their onomatopoeia.

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21060771

>>21060741

>> No.21060772

>>21060769
pic not related ?

>> No.21060781

>>21060772
It's related.
What kind of noise is「カタン」supposed to be?

>> No.21060788

>>21060769
>>21060781
http://thejadednetwork.com/sfx/search/?keyword=%E3%82%AB%E3%82%BF&submitSearch=Search+SFX&x=

>> No.21060789

>>21060788
thanks

>> No.21060807

>>21060741
あほかお前

>> No.21060808

ごはんたべたい

かるいやつ

>> No.21060836

sometimes when wo follows o or vice versa it makes me wanna pronounce the wo to distinguish them but i know i would sound retarded to a jap

>> No.21060854

>>21060752
Neither of those two have any internet presence
You can watch Patrick and Nick's interviews with Matt if you sub to his Patreon (or search for them in the archive)
Here's a free Nick video (essential DJT lore)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o-TqyBgFZn0

>> No.21060862

>>21060307
>Imagine having such an inflated ego that you put your head on a Dark Souls character.
lol it's just a kindle pun though?

>> No.21060876

>Matt Chad
>gives people 5000 manga to pirate

>Nuke Cuck
>won't even share one PDF and is still utter shit in Japanese

God is good

>> No.21060912

"We have a choice. We can love our lives trying to conform to some nebulous standard and holding others to the same, or we can live our lives seeing how everything works. When we step back and look at it that way, it is obvious that the attitude of fascination is the only intelligent one to bring to anything."

>> No.21060947

>>21060912
i don't need to see how everything works when people like matt have it figured out.

>> No.21060971

>>21060225
ARIGATO

>> No.21060977

>>21060290
nigger

>> No.21060983

>>21060375
cattle retard

>> No.21060993

>>21059635
Yeah, it's far from a perfect solution.
I added some tips under the resources section of the guide ages ago on how to make it work better based on my experience:
https://itazuraneko.neocities.org/learn/guide.html#_Manga%20OCR
(looks like they finally got ported from the google docs version to one of the neocities guides)

>OR the kanji is really complex
I think it's more to do with the kanji being uncommon/obscure rather than complex. It seemed to me when I was using OCR that there were a lot of 表外漢字 (and maybe 人名用漢字, I don't really remember) where, no matter how clearly they were written, the OCR just wouldn't recognise them.


By the way, before you go and assume that a VN "doesn't work" with ITHVNR, make sure you try searching for hook code for it first. See this page:
http://vn-hooking.wikia.com/wiki/H-Code
There are hundreds, if not thousands, of hook codes that people have contributed there, but the page is a disorganised mess so you'll need to CTRL+F for the title you're looking for. There's a pretty good chance it's in there somewhere.

>> No.21061010

>>21060056
just go to dmm the taikenban is actually the full ban but if u buy it u get 1 additional scenario which if u liked the game enough i also recommend

>>21060225
i pretty much feel this way about like just about any game that isnt plain romance sol or nukige

also where a dies irae is both very in ur face with the theatrics and subtle at the end of the day if u can read and have enough familiarity to handle it ull be fine (u dont have to get every single thing to enjoy it u just have pretty good proficiency cuz if u have to stop constantly its like stopping mid piss and ur just not gonna have a good overall piss)

whereas like a cross channel while it may not throw a billion kanji in ur face or whatever its more heavy hitting cuz its all done subtly with a poker face while reading like an aesops fable lol

if u dont know japanese u will lose to dies irae and have no idea what the thing even is but a cross channel u can read it and when i ask u what its about u will prolly be able to answer

but u will very likely be wrong and even the average japanese erogamer ends up being wrong

ah romeo ftw

>>21060769
its just a fuckin ruckus dude relax

>> No.21061027

>>21060290
Someone should report this cunt's videos. He literally makes his living by linking people to copyrighted material that he didn't even put any effort into assembling, all the while putting said material at risk of getting nuked from the internet because of the attention he's bringing to them (again, just so he can get more fame and money for himself).

Once YouTube takes some of his videos down for copyright violations he should hopefully learn his lesson and stop.

>> No.21061043

>>21061027
why not just contact patreon and tell him hes a scammer leading a cult while also profiting from telling ppl how to steal

>> No.21061049

tell mr patreon himself

>> No.21061052

>>21060290
>here's a link to a massive archive of pirated content that some other community has built
>don't pirate my content though
I actually hate this guy now

>> No.21061057

>>21061027
djt does the same shit. can you stop pretending you have some principled reason to oppose him?

>> No.21061067

>>21061027
u forgot the best part where he tells u to give him the money ur savin lol
actually the best part is that people who pay him to be able to talk to him find the resources for him ww
>>21061057
?

>> No.21061080

reporting to yt does nothing u must stop him at the patreon level

u know what to do

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t035_8aHY1Q

>> No.21061097

i had never put that in my banger list but its way up there

>> No.21061197

>>21061057
Who here is charging money for anything? I'm not against piracy, I'm against making money off of other people's work, which is all Matt does.

>> No.21061219

>>21061027
This anon knows! What a an absolute filth

>> No.21061241

>>21061197
he released this video publicly, so you're full of shit on that front. but if his patrons value videos where he links publicly-accessible material then there's nothing wrong with that.

>> No.21061243

>>21061027
>Someone should report this cunt's videos.
Go ahead, I on the occasion consider it but eventually I puss out because he's just an idiot living in his dad's basement and his life would be over if I did.

>> No.21061256

>>21061243
I've gone and done it

>> No.21061267

>>21061243
>he's just an idiot living in his dad's basement and his life would be over if I did.
at least you have a heart
>>21061256
won't do anything. nice try tard.

>> No.21061268

matts already taken ur minds

r u really gonna let him take ur illegal manga and light novella stash too ?

>> No.21061280

>>21061267
better than doing nothing - the nips should have bullied him harder

>> No.21061291

便所飯

>> No.21061311

>>21061243
patreon doesnt give a shit what he does on youtube or discord esp if a copyright holder isnt the one emailin them
it has no impact on his life he doesnt need the money cuz he always has dad

>> No.21061323

>>21061311
surely 1 of u brainiacs can find a way that hes breaking their tos : )

>> No.21061334

have you guys ever fallen off in learning? or just taken a break, or stopped, etc. I've stopped and restarted learning like 5 times, i cant finish rtk

>> No.21061339

>>21061323
He says he'll put you in the credits of his videos if you give him money but he has literally never done that.

>> No.21061340

>I've stopped and restarted learning like 5 times, i cant finish rtk
this is how ajatt fucks people. first calvin now this dumbass

>> No.21061344

尿瓶

>> No.21061351

>>21061334
>I've stopped and restarted learning like 5 times, i cant finish rtk
then don't do it retard you can learn japanese without it

>> No.21061355

>>21061323
i dont see anything comin of it even if someone did
>>21061334
have u tried eroge

>> No.21061365

男性型脱毛症

>> No.21061367

>>21061241
His videos are paid for by his Patreons like you, idiot. He ceased all activity on his YouTube channel and gave up on Japanese after ranting about how much he hated it (and Japan) until he realised he could make money from it via Patreon:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wqqHz85L0-E

Patreon money is the only reason he is still making videos, and he makes videos in the first place in hopes that more people will watch them and will also become Patreons. He even told people at the end of this newest video where he advertises pirated content to pay him money instead of content creators. And yet you're trying to argue that he isn't making money off of it. LOL.

Go back to his discord channel, cultist.

>> No.21061380

>>21061334
Yes. Stop doing tedious, boring beginner shit and go read compelling content.

>> No.21061395

>>21061057
.t Brainlet you need to go back

>> No.21061400

>>21061367
>And yet you're trying to argue that he isn't making money off of it
when did i say that you dumb ass? i said that the video was released publicly. if you want to argue that he's only motivated to make these videos because of patreon then that's an even weaker argument. it's publicly accessible so everyone knows what they're paying for.

>> No.21061402

>>21061339
>but he has literally never done that.
https://youtu.be/TgRte6oSoF8?t=2272

>> No.21061406

>>21061380
This. I've quit several times doing anki while even something as stupid as NHK Easy is at least compelling enough to get me to put in time every day.

>> No.21061408

>>21061400
>when did i say that you dumb ass?
Do you even read what you write?
>you're full of shit

>>>/discord/

>> No.21061413

>>21061355
yah but im also not a advocate for tatlling and crying to someone else

its better to just lol @ every time matt doesnt know japanese till we have enough lil clips to make a 10 min vid out of them all

https://streamable.com/l6h0h
https://streamable.com/f43ix
https://streamable.com/qemt9
https://streamable.com/hlr5f
https://streamable.com/yr6fm
+ the ones that dude posted the other day of him taking jcat lool

and heres the omake https://streamable.com/d4prq

>> No.21061416

oh i forgot this thing https://vocaroo.com/i/s0RYPh6WwowD

>> No.21061420

>>21061402
>1 time a year ago
Cool what about the people who paid after that?

>I will personally thank you at the end of each main channel video.
>Each

>> No.21061422

>>21061256
Same

>> No.21061423

>>21061408
>Do you even read what you write?
can you read period?
>but if his patrons value videos where he links publicly-accessible material then there's nothing wrong with that.
your argument is ass. like you give two shits about people making money off of directing people to other free content.
>>>>/discord/
why would i pay for links to djt.

>> No.21061431

>>21061420
get him dude

if u let them get away with little things its only a matter of time before they just do whatever they want

hold them accountable for their advertising dont be a sheep

>> No.21061434

Isn't he also sharing all the epwing dictionaries? Report that also to those companies.

>> No.21061444

oh yea all those other copyrights hes infringing and things hes plagiarizing just report it all to everybody *waves hand feebly with one hand while still reading manga held in the other*

>> No.21061448

>>21061413
i agree mostly and i aint joinin a burigee but theres potential for new clips

>> No.21061462

>>21061434
the most that would happen is the links would get dmcad which is the concern here >>21061027
hes prob safe as long as hes only a leech lol

>> No.21061464

Brainstorming options to take down M*tt
>Report him to YouTube and/or Patreon
>Become better at Japanese than him then shit on his Japanese
>Buy out some native Japanese to shit on his Japanese

>> No.21061468

>>21061448
well ultimately my vision for the brigade is to just thoroughly own him off the internet and make him regret playing language teacher and cattle herder on the computer

>> No.21061469

u think youtube reads anything that doesnt come from a lawyer lol

>> No.21061477

Matt reached a new level of jew Impressive

>> No.21061478

>>21061469
yah i never really got ppl who werent copyright holders saying they were gonna report vids for infringement its like lol can u imagine the amount of shit getting sent to google daily ahahaha

>> No.21061486

btw to whoever the djt manga/ln stash guy is

u did it for free so matt could profit

what a owned bitch

>> No.21061489

>>21061413
where are these from? old videos? are they hosted somewhere?

>> No.21061494

I like matt

>> No.21061499

Does anybody here read books on a kindle? Is it good? I only have a crappy reader without a japanese dictionary and thought about upgrading to a kindle 8. generation but I'm not too sure (I'd like to use a jap-eng / jap-ger dictionary too, is that possible?)

>> No.21061500

>>21061489
i think its all unlisted vids on his chan i dont have the links sorry

>> No.21061513

I trust in Matt

>> No.21061516

otoh matts a gay virgin who doesnt know any other language besides english and certainly hasnt enabled anyone to learn any language

>> No.21061523

plus look what he fuckin turned calvin into >>21054733 >>21054821

he must be stopped

>> No.21061533

>>21061478
Someone just claim to hold copyright to the dgt library then

>> No.21061534

if for no other reason then to ensure no other young man has to go through what calvin did

安らかに眠ってくれ・・calvinよ

>> No.21061552

>>21061533
fight bullshit with bullshit i like it dude

>> No.21061571
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won't work and you're utter failures compared to matt sama mfw you nerds can't shut the fuck up about him

>> No.21061573

>>21061571
but why do u have that webm if ur not also guilty ?

>> No.21061580

>>21061573
I can download art pieces of him without obsessively posting about him.

>> No.21061584

>>21061499
Maybe I just have fat fingers but I always found trying to look up anything on a kindle extremely frustrating, nine time out of ten the wrong text would be selected and I had to drag the highlight box around to get what I wanted. In my experience Kobo is much better. Plus it's really easy to convert Kobo books to html to read in a browser with yomichan.

>> No.21061586

>>21061580
then change the subject dude are u strong enough to overpower every1s raped minds

>> No.21061593

>>21061584
I just like to read ebooks in general and with a kindle I could read anywhere.
What's Kobo?

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>>21061586
I'm just one low IQ guy. I can't singlehandedly get the discussion back on track even though I recognize that the current discussion is ass.

Watch, I'll try. Is this a good guide?

>> No.21061605

>>21061523
matt is a vile monster who killed calvin then brought him back as a zombie so he could kill him again

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>>21061602
no its fuckin not i dealt with this image so long ago its not fuckin good its shit fUCk

>> No.21061621

>>21061602
>Is this a good guide?
You would know if you didn't obsess over M4tt

>> No.21061625

>>21061593
Kobo is a line of e-ink readers from Rakuten, very nice IMO. You can buy the device in the US and link it to a Japanese account without going through a VPN.

https://us.kobobooks.com/collections/ereaders
https://books.rakuten.co.jp/

>> No.21061627

>>21061605
hes gonna transmute him with the dog this time

>> No.21061656

>>21061625
That has a German retailer too, which is nice. Can I also just transfer books via USB? And it has a jap-eng dictionary?

>> No.21061700

>>21061618
what were u goin for here cuz you took out a couple that are on ur own chart but u also took out the word ez

>> No.21061719

>>21061700
idk that pics much older than my chart but prolly i saw those as good starting points

>> No.21061728

at least as good as its gonna get there also prolly the idea that they are also all media for japanese and not for (u)

>> No.21061829

>>21061656
There definitely was a J-E dictionary and I've used it in the past but I can't find it at the moment. I mostly do intensive reading in a browser and only use the device for rereading or extensive reading.

>> No.21061857

https://youtu.be/1CrlQHA9i0g?t=371

so turns out matt plays VNs after all

>> No.21061865

can the youtube obsessed tard give the timestamps for all the funny matt drama i'm too lazy to search for

i.e. the whole toilet cubicle lunch panic attack and calling his dad to buy him a return ticket to america thing

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21061870

After only using Duolingo to learn Japanese for the last month these arrived today and I'm so excited. Any tips/advice?

>> No.21061879

>realta nua

smfh

>> No.21061881

>>21061857
nothin but fate reminds me of https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r5Qxr8OGkaA
>>21061865
popcorn and 3 hour video

>> No.21061891

why does leddit trigger me so fucking much with their genki and being dekinai shit? i made more progress in a year than those fags in 5

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>> No.21061900

imagining matt jacking off to later renditions of rin tohsaka LOL

>> No.21061907

man i could turn nuke chan into a fuckin nihonGOD in like a couple a months all i gotta do is unlock the latent nihongo in his brain

>> No.21061909

>>21061870
you need to go through the mind illuminated before you'll be ready for genki

>> No.21061921

>>21061900
can u believe matt jackin off isnt the grossest part of that thought

>> No.21061933

>>21061895
I don't really like him but he's right about that

>> No.21061959

isn't matt a non-practicing homosexual

why would he jack off to tohsaka's anus

>> No.21061964

how many kanji does nukemarine know

>> No.21061968

hes doing rtk again so soon 6000

>> No.21061974

>know

>> No.21061975

does it really count as knowing a kanji if you don't know them on a kanji kentei level 1 level

>> No.21061980

i'm gonna finish rtk3 in 18 days

i'm so excited about finally learning japanese

>> No.21061986

nuke do you read visual novels/eroge to help you with japanese

there's just not enough compelling content in japanese for a grumpy oyaji if he isn't a major pervert or manchild i'm afraid

>> No.21061987

when matt was talkin about kanji kantai he said somethin about itd take hundreds of hours in a year for him lol

>> No.21061992

漢字艦隊

didn't matt make the same mistake and are you referencing it

>> No.21061995

pat id like to solve the puzzle

漢字艦隊 collection

>> No.21061996

or was it kanji kantei

>> No.21062004

kanji kentai

kanji hentai

>> No.21062008

its kentei dude

kanken for short ?

jesus u guys thisis the worst djt thread of alltime thank god its almost over

>> No.21062014

ok so i finished RTK

how long before i can pass the JLPT N1?

note that i'm not asking how long before i can reach N1 level or even become fluent in japanese, i'm asking how long before i can use jlpt meta knowledge/tricks to get a passing grade

>> No.21062015

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sPbtlFVV3X0

>> No.21062022

>>21062008
i know it's kentei you tard

i'm referencing the time when matt mispronounced it

i can't remember how he mispronounced it but it was referenced on /djt/ for days

>> No.21062040

>>21061995
oh shit matt just wanted in on kanji colle that makes sense now
>>21062022
it dont really matter just say kanji kanto the point gets across

>> No.21062041

Is there an anki plugin that automatically removes leech status and unsuspend cards after some time?

>> No.21062056

is there an anki plugin that hides stuff that doesn't relate to /djt/ (anything that isn't e-celeb gossip)

i'm sure matt and his good programmer friend yogapants would make one

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My first day reading Dies Irae. It's going well so far despite what that shitposter said earlier, I think he was just trying to troll me.

>> No.21062064

kanji kankei

>> No.21062071

is the difficulty gap between leyline and dies irae larger than the difficulty gap between not knowing anything and leyline?

>> No.21062082

i have a trip to japan with family planned for the summer but matt said that i'm not allowed to produce anything for the first two years

how will i be able to talk with the people there

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>>21062022
sry dude didnt think itd come to this but


>>21062059
tldr

>> No.21062097

>>21062059
>Also sprach Zarathrustra
I can't believe I got trolled
That's what I get for trying to give advice

>> No.21062104

djt has really gone to shit since the beginning of the year, hasn't it?
Don't get me wrong, it was shit before. but we are hitting levels beyond reason

>> No.21062105

https://reddit.com/r/LearnJapanese/comments/b5wi7d/is_ajatt_really_that_good/

dang even reddit hates matt

>> No.21062111

>>21062097
Why would I want to play the censored versions?

>> No.21062119

yah i dont get his reasoning there u keep doin u visual gamer

>> No.21062122

The "most complete, least censored" version of Dies irae is Acta est Fabula HD or something.

>> No.21062125

>>21062111
It would please me to punish you for not heeding by advice by saying nothing, but I will extend the olive branch and (assuming this isn't part of the troll) inform you that Acta est Fabula is an entirely reworked version of the game that added half the content, and Also sprach Zarathrustra is the meme bad version that goes nowhere and ends midway through. Amantes amentes is the censored all-ages version.

>> No.21062129

>>21062105
if you want to get to the truth just take the prevailing /r/LearnJapanese wisdom, and invert it

>> No.21062130

maybe u just have to come to the shocking realization that dies irae is actually just bad ? i mean did u see the anime ? lmfao

it was memed to shit in the west so u retards would buy the shitty tl when it came out but that didnt go well either LOL

>> No.21062146

>>21062071
is there a difficulty gap between not knowing anything and leyline
>>21062125
>It would please me to punish you for not heeding by advice
why do u care so much if he doesnt understand it beyond surface level

>> No.21062147

dies irae lol

http://vmashup.com/mu7q5UWM

>> No.21062150

>>21062146
>is there a difficulty gap between not knowing anything and leyline
well i mean which threshold is harder to push through. 0 to 1 or 1 to 50.

>> No.21062160

https://www.reddit.com/r/LearnJapanese/comments/b4mqck/finished_genki_2_%CF%89_ready_for_whats_next_and_some/

look at this fucking long post and dont hate leddit

>> No.21062163

>>21062160
>wanikani
What is it with reddit and that scam? Do they hate money?

>> No.21062165

>>21062146
>why do u care so much
Honestly I just thought it'd be funny to word the post that way. Don't think too deeply about it my dude.

>> No.21062166

>>21062163
shut up and take my le money!

>> No.21062168

>>21062160
>I wasn't expecting to see my name mentioned here. Glad you liked my drawing! My only advice is to start using stuff like Anime sooner rather than later. You've already finished genki 2,thats plenty of primer. People can study without using native materials for years even reaching N1 level, but when they try watching Anime (or other native materials) they can't understand much. So don't put it off for too long
>People can study without using native materials for years even reaching N1 level, but when they try watching Anime (or other native materials) they can't understand much.

HAHAHAHHAHAHA

>> No.21062173

>>21062168
why is this funny? it's true

>> No.21062176

idk if u know but n1 is just a test

u can specifically study for it

so idk what ur issue is w. that statement its mostly true and ironically the story of all these n1s that dont know japanese

granted they prolly still watched tv or whatever but if it wasnt comprehensible input it might as well have been watching the wall cuz they didnt learn nothin at all

>> No.21062184

>>21062173
>>21062176
yes, I know it's true
I'm laughing at how shitty that test is and all the retards who even occupy themselves with it

>> No.21062187

oh uh *sniffs* agreed

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