/tmg/ - Type-Moon General

[Anonymous No.]

This thread is for discussion of any and all works by Type-MOON, or Kinoko Nasu.

>TYPE-MOON's official site
http://www.typemoon.com/
>TYPE-MOON's official site before going commercial
http://www.typemoon.org/

Download Links

>Kara no Kyoukai - the Garden of sinners
Novels: https://emptyboundaries.wordpress.com/2011/07/25/kara-no-kyokai-translations-2/
Movies: https://nyaa.si/view/264295

>Shingetsutan Tsukihime
Tsukihime
https://mega.nz/#!6TBSSTbR!4O6JYv1dyyRw7GQeHJ4NIUYUTQ--tuy9H8s69HgL5lY
Tsukihime PLUS-DISC
https://nyaa.si/view/453758
Tsukihime Kagetsu Tohya
https://sukebei.nyaa.si/view/2502321
Tsukihime manga
https://mega.nz/#F!dRwwAZrT!uxmDDlwDTu3bgo9QIKgSrQ

>Melty Blood
Melty Blood PC games
https://nyaa.si/view/1042489
Melty Blood manga (divided into two parts, the first part, spanning volumes 1-6, follows the original Melty Blood storyline. "2nd ACT" began spans volumes 7-9)
https://mega.nz/#F!syICRSJI!TeAS9ZVFSDQigguqxn_MwA
Melty Blood - Back Alley Alliance Nightmare
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/16jgRv-WneCDBF324U_MFsuguPFTt2J0S

>Fate/stay night
Fate/stay night [Réalta Nua]
https://sukebei.nyaa.si/view/2386805
Fate/hollow ataraxia
https://sukebei.nyaa.si/view/2575055
Fate/Zero
https://readfag.wordpress.com/unedited/fatezero/
Lord El Melloi II Case Files Volume 1
https://www.mediafire.com/file/e310zzwwyhmw0cw/Lord+El+Melloi+II+Case+Files+Volume+1.pdf

>Mahoutsukai no Yoru - Witch on the Holy Night
English: https://nyaa.si/view/943509
Français: https://github.com/IDerr/mahoyo-french/releases

Novels
>Angel Voice, 1999, K.Nasu & T.Takeuchi
http://www.mediafire.com/file/4w9jk2bwy8b0xsh/Angel_Notes.zip
>Coral of the Moon
https://www.mediafire.com/?uq1eqhccbxhxktx
>DDD - Decoration Disorder Disconnection
https://mega.nz/#!8BJQnaBK!kdrZ107A9Th4amk4RJoX81txOcMwR6OmyaULDtlt1no
>Fate/Apocrypha
https://fateapocryphathetranslation.wordpress.com/volume-1/pdf-and-epub-version-2/
>Fate/Strange Fake
http://humbertozero.tumblr.com/post/150696689780/how-to-read-fatestrange-fake-light-novel-read
>Fire Girl
https://firegirlthetranslation.wordpress.com/

Other Links
>Beast's Lair forum
forums.nrvnqsr.com
>Encyclopedia of Type Moon
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B49crU71miHObWRvV2tDUllYTjQ/edit?usp=sharing
>Fate Franchise Loseless Soundtracks
https://mega.nz/#F!OQwx1DYA!1c0Dkm1VfOPpthg6etuU4g
>Fuyuki Rebuild
http://tatari.byethost33.com/
>Holy Grail 2.0 - original rips
https://mega.nz/#F!BA4yHYoT!NwGVKj4q9Z1vnpKlYY-4UQ
>Melty Bread: Melty Blood (and French Bread) news stuffs
www.meltybread.com/forums/
>Mirror Moon: Type-Moon Translation Projects/Patches
http://mirrormoon.org/
>TMdict: Glossaries from works by Type-Moon
tmdict.com/
>Tsuki-kan: A small Type-Moon site
tsukikan.com/
>Tsukihime doujins from 2008
https://mega.nz/#!fHgSVb5L!EPDHKU2KHLdjW1bM2b0-VV7WzrA9xPqrLnJTu0AkwyY
>Type Moon Mega Folder
https://mega.nz/#F!IEgnySDK!wvEo43UGmHFEKC1JBVykGw
>TYPE-MOON Music Collection
https://nyaa.si/view/1096952

Previous >>20868077

[Anonymous No.]

New Prisma Illya OVA will be called "PrismaPhantasm". Interesting.

https://twitter.com/prisma_illya/status/1101044337167613952

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>>20915404

why aren't they fixing drei

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>>20915510
They already did the BDs with some fixes, don't think they're gonna come back to it again.

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>this entire scene
was she ovulating or something? That was insane.

[Anonymous No.]

I love my wife Arcueido!

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>>20915404
Hard pass for me.

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>>20915404
It is harmless at the least.

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>>20916912
Can't say I'm too fond of Prisma simply on the basis on it largely overshadows the original Illya, who is a vastly different character. Not to mention that, for most people, it made her into a cheap fanservice character; they only think about her design and the various ways in which they want to see her fucked by old fat men, or participate in yuri.

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>>20917243
Of course it's not that good, but it is fairly self contained, making it a far nicer property than all the Aniplex crap.

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>>20917243
I like it just for the fact it spawned all the miyuverse shirou stuff out of loli fanservice.

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>>20917243
I agree that Prisma Illya is a pretty shit character compared to the original. I think overall, as a spin-off it's just decent, a lot of it is fanfic-tier, but I somehow prefer it to most of the soulless milking that is modern Fateshit. Even though most of the authors are longtime Type-Moon fans, Prisma's got in before the franchise blew up to an insane degree.
In my view, only French Bread is a more commendable third party, for partnering with TM before FSN even came out. I really want a Melty sequel.

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how do i patch the realtu nu version linked in the op? the instructions are unclear
namely

>Take the folder "Faterealtanua_savedata" and move it to your documents.

>Drop all the files in folder "English patches"
into the save folder titled Faterealtanua_savedata, located in your documents folder. Do not put the folder in there as well.

i've done the first bit, but i don't see a folder labeled 'english patches' in either FSNRN or the _savedata folder

[Anonymous No.]

So how exactly do I patch the Realta Nua version linked in the OP? The instructions are somewhat unclear. Namely,
>Drop all the files in folder "English patches" into the save folder titled Faterealtanua_savedata, located in your documents folder. Do not put the folder in there as well.
I don't have a folder labeled 'English patches'.

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Tsukihime should be called "Sorry the Game".

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Happy Birthday Sakura ~

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Does anyone know if this Melty manga is supposed to be an Epic of Remenants kind of deal?

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>>20919406
Thank you Nasu for creating my wife.

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>>20920001
Fuck off back to the kitchen, Shirou

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>>20919983
Dunno. But Sion's appearance in FGO might be a reference from this MB Nightmare manga. Not to mention that Rani was hinted in GO by BB Summer too. Btw, i like Sion and Captain so much ;;

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>>20919406
>>20920001
Cute!
Happy birthday, Sakura!

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>>20920001
Happy birthday Sakura! Here, have some puppies!

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>>20919983
Lev is great.

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Hisui's route is so miserable. I feel bad for Shiki. I would have killed myself.

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>Finally download Notes
>Think it is like one volume or something like that with how much plot-detail I've seen here and there over the years
>It's literally 12 pages
>99% of the setting and backstory details are given on side-notes on and one or two pages full of lore
What the hell.

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>>20920423
he still does this shit to this day with all his retarded material books that you have to buy.

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>>20920423
Notes is overhyped trash.

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can the anon(s) who've been posting/hinting about translating mahoyo in the last few threads keep posting updates so I know if I should pick my TL back up or go masturbate some more?

besides that one fuwanovel guy who's never going to post another update, everyone working on mahoyo is now from here.

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>>20920901
All things that are vaguely defined and/or lacking in an abundance of detail are vastly overrated in the Nasuverse, but not because the content is necessarily bad but because the imagination of us, as readers, gets ahead of ourselves. We are attracted to the possibilities of Notes, not necessarily the reality.

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I finally understand why I must read Kohaku route last. Well played, Nasu, well played...

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>>20920901
The only reason you'd think Notes is overhyped trash is if you care about the "lore" Notes is actually pretty intelligent if you look for stuff beyond "lore"

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>>20921760
>Notes is actually pretty intelligent if you look for stuff beyond "lore"
You cannot say that and not back up your statement anon.

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Playing through HA, got this beautiful little scene but then I got kicked out to the main menu. Wtf? Is there a true ending with sakura? Or was that it?

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>>20922277
He's right. The story is simple and very effective. The shitload of extra lore is just window dressing, that also adds to the feeling that you're only seeing a very small. insignificant story in a much larger universe. The same kind of feeling Tsukihime and FSN give me with their small town settings (though even more so, due to how few characters Notes has).

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>>20922346
Pretty sure that scene was at the end of the 4th day, anon. They went to sleep, and then looped back to the 1st.

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>>20922387
Alright thanks

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New Chibichuki!!! cover.

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>>20922599
Too bad 95% of it is trash.

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>>20922788
>trash
Why ?

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>>20922875
To be clear, I mean the characters on the cover.
The main issue with the content itself is really, there isn't close to enough of it.
And it isn't my cup of tea anyway, but there are a couple of things which made me happy.

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>>20922599
Bigger.

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>>20922599
>>20922949
They kept Arc's vents. I approve.

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>>20922964
They are using all the classic designs.

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>>20922986
Yeah I just noticed the awfully comfy Akiha and SHIKI.

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>>20922949
Who is Nanaya giving the umbrella to?

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>>20923031
That is Tatsumi and Serenity

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Are we ever going to get a new urban fantasy TM work like F/SN, Tsukihime and Kara no Kyoukai? Because I love those settings and how they are confined in their respective worlds. There's no big scale save the earth/save humanity bullshit like the bottom barrel trash that is called FGO.

yes, I've read Dies Irae and I love it as well/

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>>20923475
no

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>>20923475
At the very best you'll get :
-Tsukihime remake
-Mahoyo 2 and 3
But only once Nasu retire and someone else step in to do it.

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Are Tsukihime and KnK universes the same ? It could work if I had to tell.

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>>20922454
>>20922949
As with every new one, the number of characters I dislike keeps rapidly increasing.
Gotta love Arc/Shiki though, that's adorable. Same with Kamekura and Mana.

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>>20923917
No, Ryougi and Tohno can't have the MEoDP in the same universe (even though they do in Melty Blood).

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>>20923554
Honestly if I get Mahoyo 2 and 3 I can die happily.

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>>20922949
Is that Male Fujimaru under Dante's cloak? Very cute.

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>>20922949
I'm glad at least the gang is back together for this one, I'm sure some fanartists will be quite happy.

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>>20924238
That's right. They're very adorable too

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>>20924238
Btw some jp artists drew them already

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>>20923940
Why is that ? There can only be one ?
Because the setting looks quite similar. I don't remember if we have vampires-like people in KnK but some things are in tune.

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>>20924392
They're supposed to be super rare, so it doesn't make sense to Nasu that two would exist on teenagers in Japan at the same time. I think that's about it though, the Tohno and Ryougi families still exist in the each other's universe, same with the Aozaki sisters.

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>>20924238
Yes. The only good Gudao pairing..

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>>20924328
>>20924412
Get this disgusting, awful excuse for a "character" out of my /tmg/.

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>>20923031
That's Tatsumi from Fragments, he's like Shirou without the plot armor so gets killed.

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>>20924419
god rin is so fucking ugly

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>>20924428
True. The shovel-faced, inferior sister.
Good angry face though.

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>>20923940
Shiki was world jumping.

>>20923917
No, so far Nasu places KnK closer to Fate (Fujino got incinerated, for example) while Mahoyo and Tsukihime share a closer setting (where Clocktower 2015 takes place).

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>>20924433
It is annoying how Sakura thinks she’s uglier than Rin though

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>>20924439
>It is annoying how Sakura
FTFY
But seriously, keep this circlejerk argument between two overrated whores out of here.

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>>20924443
Cringe and rude

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>>20924439
Indeed, it's a result of the school being filled with Rin's bootlickers.
Poor Sakura needs more love in order to understand her full potential.

>>20924443
Hey, better post Rin and Sakura than talk about FGO trash characters like earlier anons.

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>>20924449
/tmg/ does not abide by the same typical posting traits of /jp/ or anything else.

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>>20924456
It is marginally better, but still overdone to hell.

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>>20924256
is that a NEW fgo character PogChamp

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>>20924457
That’s rather arrogant to say, everyone’s posting style can be traced back to clear influences and site/board cultures

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>>20924468
Of course everyone will post differently, but when certain habits emerge I will get worried.

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>>20924461
Respectfully disagree, I love Rin and Sakura and could never get tired of talking about them. I was also trying to sandbag the Gudashit talk earlier, so it's fine.

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>>20924412
Anon, how could you forget Gudao x Astolfo or Gudao x Gordolf ?

>>20924419
Yeah, im glad that your precious waifu doesn't exist in GO timeline

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>>20924517
Really though, why are you here? What's up with the random influx of /fgog/fags in the past week? Did something happen to your normal hangout spot that you had to come spread cancer in /tmg/?
You can also just make a FGO thread on /a/, it's constantly flooded with those anyway.

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>>20920991

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>>20924523
What's wrong if i go to both /fgog/ and /tmg/ since i like Typemoon's works ?

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>>20924547
Nothing really, so long as you understand that part of /tmg/'s appeal has always been for people who are sick and tired of FGO making its way into every remotely TM-related thread on this site, due to the way that it's overtaken TM while lacking any of the factors that made it good in the first place.
Of course we still talk about it, because again, it's inevitable, but this isn't the kind of thread where a fan of FGO would love to hang out, or be super positive about it.

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>>20924547
Nothing, but don't be surprised when people critique your taste.

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>>20917243
I wish I could watch it without feeling like a pedophile. I mean, the movie was good enough that I'm almost tempted.

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She's fucking cute.

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>>20924595
Other than some proportion errors, Tsukihime's sprites are god-tier. Takeuchi had great poses and expressions.

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>>20924595
>nasu’s two cutest girls are damaged goods
What did he mean

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>>20924566
Do you really feel that way? I mean, I agree that FGO does somewhat move away from a lot of the stuff that makes the earlier Type Moon stories work. But I do still like the way it uses most of the TM lore to tell a genuinely epic story that doesn't involve the Fuyuki grail war.

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>>20924611
literally 90% of the people here feel that way. FGOs story is straight up trash.

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>>20924611
>genuinely epic story
I just.
Nah, I can't.

>that doesn't involve the Fuyuki grail war.
And that is necessary to be good, eh?

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>>20924626
I mean, that's fine. I just find it kind of odd to pretend it's this aberration in TM work. It's perfectly in line with the rest of it, even if it does have a far grander scope and stakes.

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>>20924611
Yes, I fucking hate FGO's story, setting, and major characters.
There IS lots of interesting lore involved in it, but it's honestly annoying to me that they're outright wasting that good stuff on an awful game. Nasu could've done much, much better.

>>20924636
>It's perfectly in line with the rest of it
It fucking isn't, it's in line with shit like Apocrypha and Fate/Extella, more modern works that seek to exploit the popularity of Servants and how easy it is to mass-produce them, while ignoring all the appeal that Nasu's others works have.

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>>20924633
>Nah, I can't.
Look, if you disagree that's fine. But it trying to be more epic in scope, stakes, and content. I would argue successfully, even if the actual writing is often pretty mixed.

>And that is necessary to be good, eh?
It's not necessary, but it is welcome. Both Fate and Type moon have been tied to that one freaking conflict for way, WAY too long. Like, I get that the original VN is great and Fate Zero (arguably) even better as a story. But I do think it's time for the franchise to move away from that and focus on more things. If there is one thing I like about FGO, for all of its flaws, is the way it uses Fate Stay Night as a jumping off board for that something else. It doesn't simply wallow in the original story, but expands it and the world it takes place in.

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>>20924636
It's vastly different from anything they've ever produced, I don't know what you're smoking. even nasu acknowledges that a lot of fans think TM is different than it was years ago because of FGO.

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>>20924649
Listen anon, the discussion you're trying to have has happened countless times in /a/ and /vg/, I've wasted too many hours of my life arguing against FGO. Another reason for /tmg/ existing is people getting tired of having to argue these same points back and forth in every single TM thread.

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>>20924643
That's fine, obviously. You like what you like, and I can certainly see why somebody would dislike the plot of FGO.

>It fucking isn't,
This, however, I do disagree with. It is perfectly in line with other Nasuverse works. The only real difference being that it's scope is simply far greater.

>>20924651
It's different, but that's not the same thing as not fitting in. FSN and FZ are also very different stories. Yet they still fit in just fine with each other.

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>>20924661
I mean, that's fine. Like I said, you like what you like. But if you don't want to argue against FGO, then just don't do it. Don't try to shut down other people talking about it.

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Many of the problems would be rectified if it wasn't a mobage.
It wouldn't have character bloat, ideas and characterization could be deeper etc.

Don't even get me started about how soulless and harmful the format really is.
As always, just read Dullahan's rant for that.

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>>20924670
Or you could fuck off to one of the thousand other threads dedicated around FGO that exist on this very website, and understand that people like you posting FGO in every TM related thread are the reason /tmg/ exists in the first place. You're the one looking for problems here, not the anons who have been comfy in this general for over a year.

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>>20924671
The format is absolutely pretty shit. It drags the whole enterprise down, and keeps it from reaching it's full potential. If a better alternative for a Fate RPG existed, I would play it.

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>>20924675
I don't even want to discuss FGO. I just find it kind of baffling that people start randomly attack somebody for the sheer crime of mentioning FGO. Then complaining when somebody else asks why they dislike FGO.

Like, if you don't want to talk about FGO then just don't fucking talk about it. It taking up space here doesn't somehow mean you have to respond to it.

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>>20924680
It's not about mentioning FGO, people do that all the time. It's about acting like a fan of it or fawning over the garbage bland self-insert main character, and asking why people dislike FGO. That just outs you as totally clueless about where you're posting.

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>>20924680
Yeah, there are a few posters who are too hostile.
Some people could learn to stop replying.

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>>20924688
Most people that fawn over the main character are actually fawning over the "Learning with" manga main character. As for why people dislike FGO, anybody that honestly can't understand that isn't going to learn no matter what you tell them. Which I say as somebody that plays FGO.

>>20924689
It's pretty much that way on all of /jp/, i've noticed. it's very easy to make people incredibly hostile by daring to mention something they don't like.

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>>20924598
Indeed. It's also nice to see underaged drinking portrayed so well.

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>>20924707
That scene was just great overall. So cute and funny. Ahika needs more love from the fandom.

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>>20924729
Used goods are best goods.

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>>20922949
Is this the only currently published TM world that has more than Fate?

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>>20924737
Strange Fake and Case Files have a good amount of crossover with other stuff, but it is the only one that is a "TM work" rather than primarily Fate in name/setting.

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>>20924643
They don't understand TM wasn't appealing in the first place that's why only Fate got a future. KnK was saved due to ufotable completely revamping it.

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>>20924751
I don't think it would take much to revamp Tsukihime though. Vampires are always popular, cute blond vampires even more so.

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>>20924675
Are you a mod? A janny? FGO is /tmg/. If you have problems with it, then you probably shouldn't touch a TM related anything especially because you jump at people like you were thread police. You're the problem here, not those anons.

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>>20924751
I know this is a bait post, but I have to at least respond to the later part. ufotable didn't revamp shit. Most of the story and characters are nearly 1:1 from the books. Their UBW and HF anime are more of a "revamp" than KnK.

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>>20924742
Those are still Fate titles. It's like saying Dantes CD drama deals with Tsukihime because Roa appears to die.
>FATE/Strange Fake
>Case Files is called a Fate project anime and is about Waver who is a major Fate character
Also Case Files ended.

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>>20924775
I know, that's why I said
> it is the only one that is a "TM work" rather than primarily Fate in name/setting.
And no, Case Files didn't end, there's a third part to the last case still coming.

[Anonymous No.]

Please remember to not reply to blatant /fgog/fags who have apparently decided to shit up this general because we survived too long for their liking.
Report any obvious shitposting, ignore baits.

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>>20924768
KnK presented storytelling was far superior to Nasu's. Nasu even admitted it. The story was unreadable and that's why it flopped when it was first published. The concepts were rescued by UFO and made them visually appealing with a gorgeous OST.

>>20924763
Vampires are only popular when they are appealing. Most of the Vampires in Tsukihime are ugly, one dimensional and weird, plus have a super stupid lore that is not appealing to any vampirefag. I'm a vampirefag and I consume a lot of Vampire fiction and I haven't come across as bad 'vampires' as the ones Nasu came up with. They kill any interest of anyone who is looking for vampire stories. Plus they tossed the potentially recognizable vampires to the Servant fodder (Carmilla, Gilles, Vlad).

The mage shit has more potential than the vampire stuff. He should focus more to expand Mahoyo and maybe the Church.

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>>20924665
Well, other TM works tend to be low-scale, involve much fewer characters, try to make the protag unique, and generally provide much more spotlight on individual characters and local events. FGO does none of these things. It has a bland protagonist, a massive scale, and cardboard heroines with very little characterization when compared with other works.

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>>20924801
There's only one heroine.

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>>20924790
>Most of the Vampires in Tsukihime are ugly, one dimensional and weird, plus have a super stupid lore that is not appealing to any vampirefag.
I don't know. While her lore might be weird, Arcueid is basically walking waifu fodder. Same for Satsuki, who i just know is going to be a top tier love interest if the remake ever comes out.

Meanwhile, Nrvnqsr is just walking awesome. Meaning the only one that would require somewhat of a rework is Roa. Who was a pretty mweh villain even in the original visual novel.

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>>20924801
Only one of the works is actually like that. Even Fate Stay Night had a pretty massive cast.

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>>20924787
Good, just ignore them. It's better for you and them.

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>>20924775
>Fate/strange Fake
It still has Tsukihime elements at least (SF is a weird world confirmed by Nasu)
>Case Files
Its anime adaption (the Rail Zeppelin case) will feature two of the 27 DAAs. And the Contract of Atlas case has DAA too.

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>>20924841
Well, not necessarily for them I hope, the idea is to drive people away if they don't get to talk about FGO and their other trash here.
Then again, that's what we tried to do on /a/, but eventually the FGO fanbase became too large and overpowering, like the game itself. /tmg/ is a refuge from that.

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>first year of the general
>comfy discussions, ends with anons calling out beast lair for shit translations and finally freeing up mahoyo as a free project to work on
>second year of the general
>immediately invaded by FGO fags

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>>20924882
/tmg/ was created by refugees from /fgog/.

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>>20924892
by your logic britain invading america is ok.

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>>20924856
Remember that fundamental lore discussion is fine, basically anything that affects total knowledge of TM's works.

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>>20924895
I should have responded that F/GO shitposting was here since day 1 and throughout the whole year. The fact that you only noticing it now is really weird.

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At this point, I actually disagree with the notion that we shouldn't reply to /fgog/fags. They had a point on /a/ and other boards that that stuff should technically be welcome in TM threads, but /tmg/ was explicitly made for people tired of /fgog/ and their bullshit. Tired of having to debate between ignoring and letting them shit up the thread, or replying and sparking a massive argument.

Really thinking I should just start the next OP with "FOR FGO FAN DISCUSSION, GO TO /vg/". Make it clear what's not desirable here.

>>20924882
Yeah, it's been really grating for the past couple of weeks. Hope we can get past this and keep going like the first year.

>>20924892
Exactly, because /fgog/ was (and is) a massive shithole despite being the only centralized place for TM discussion. We successfully got away from them, and while I think discussing lore stuff is fine, we have to draw a line between that and welcoming actual GOfags.

>>20924896
That's the stance I agree with, pretty much.

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>>20924912
/fgog/ tried to get the mods to kill us in the first couple of threads, but they left after a while, as you would expect. We still got the occasional baiter, but not too bad.

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>>20924856
How about you just, like, don't try to drive anybody away and you just learn to live with them? Like, if you don't respond to them they won't bother you with talk about a game you don't care about. They might still talk about it here, but you won't be affected at all.

I mean, "the idea is to drive people away". Like, what kind of a fucking immature whiny man child are you to somehow think that 1: That actually works. 2: That is actually a good thing. You shouldn't be here talking about type moon, you should be in a schoolyard talking about Fortnite. Because you are a goddamn child.

>>20924882
The only reason why that is a problem is because of you, and only you.

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>>20924882
Us finally getting that out of the way was a really proud achievement.
We've done more for the fanbase than /fgog/ has in their entirety.

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>>20924913
Then you might want to change what the thread is about. Since, you know, FGO is a type moon work.

> Tired of having to debate
Who is behind you with a gun forcing you to debate people that mention FGO? Kotomine?

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>>20924913
Basically all the attempts of discussing lore here are bombarded by OLD GOOD, NEW BAD. This general has little potential for progress and might as well be pruned.

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Listen, there are many different reasons and things that people like TM for.
People have very big grievances against some things as they disrupted the projects they like.
That is why these responses are happening, it is passion.

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>>20924941
Just prune the whiny manchildren that can't stand people mentioning something they don't like. Thread will massively improve once they are gone.

In fact, just prune all of the whiny man children on /jp/. That way, the Touhou threads will be less shit as well.

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>>20924941
This actually rustles my jimmies.
There are some tongue in cheek things in that work which does seem like Nasu mocking cerrtain things.

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>>20924945
That removes 2hu's existence completely.
Which is a good thing.

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>>20924944
That's a fucking terrible reason. Even if FGO is actually totally 100% responsible for some other project getting delayed. Then blame the management, not FGO. Again, you are a literal fucking child if you think that way. Grow up.

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>>20924949
Well, the japanese fandom might still survive in a smaller capacity. But I do agree that it would mostly be a good thing if the current western fanbase just died.

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>>20924941
Much of the new stuff has the potential of being good, but has little chance for progress due to the restrictive medium.

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>>20924925
Anon, I really have to ask how fucking new to this general and to the Type-Moon fandom on 4chan are you.
This was a massive problem on /a/ that made that place unbearable for a lot of TM fans who can't stand FGO. The spread of that cancer mirrors the way FGO enroached on Type-Moon as a whole. This is specifically a general created to avoid having to deal with FGO fans in every single thread, because they have much more preferable, welcoming generals on other boards. Do you not understand how just being "okay" with other people posting about FGO trash defeats the entire purpose of why this place has existed for a year? What's so bad about a place where I can actually talk with people who agree that FGO is garbage, when I get the opposite of that experience everywhere else online? If you don't like it, go to the million of other threads where you'd get shit for complaining about FGO and the current state of Type-Moon. It's not a matter of "I like the game, even though it's very flawed" like in /fgog/, it's a matter of "I think the game is an abortion and I can't stand talking to people who like it anymore".

>>20924941
Again, if you don't like it, don't come here, or try to change what /tmg/ fundamentally is. We don't need "progress", this is primarily a nostalgia-based general, for as long as Type-Moon continues to let Tsukihime and Mahoyo rot, or absorbs them into FGO trash.

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>>20924950
There is actually little proof either way.
TM has no management outside of Takeuchi slapping Nasu, that much is clear.
The fact remains that there is a complete lack of consistency between the overall franchises of TM in terms of investment.
There are people in it, myself included for certain things specifically.

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>>20924958
Moot tried his heart out to destroy it, but he only ended up making it worse.

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>>20924950
the only "managment" TM has are takeuchi and nasu.

takeuchi is fine with swimming in endless amounts of money, as he's always been and has stopped telling nasu to fix his shit.

nasu has admitted he spends most of his time nowadays working on FGO.

all the rest of TM is just random writers and artists also working on FGO.

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>>20925008
>nasu has admitted he spends most of his time nowadays working on FGO
Citation?

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>>20925019
did you not read the MC mafia interview or what?

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>>20925026
I don't remember which interviews I read and which didn't anymore.

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>>20925032
奈須氏：
　今，僕の時間の半分は「FGO」に使っています。

https://www.4gamer.net/games/266/G026651/20181228023/

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>>20924967
The point of this place is to discuss type moon. I don't give a fuck about what kind of whiny spat fest you got into with FGO fans elsewhere. But if the behavior of people on this place is indication, i'm going to assume you threw a hissy fit because people had the nerve, THE AUDACITY, to bring up FGO as a type moon property. I have no sympathy for you one way or the other. Now, if you can, please just grow up and stop you're idiotic temper tantrum because people like different things than you.

>>20924983
You can't destroy what was never living in the first place.

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>>20924978
That just makes it even worse. People are basically throwing a hissy fit because of something they THINK might be a problem.

I agree that investment is a problem. But again, blaming FGO for that is just dumb.

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>>20924826
I agree with the fact that Roa, and by extension SHIKI, lack of a good development. SHIKI could have been a great character, I'm quite disappointed with the direction Nasu took with his personnality.

That being said, I didn't even know there was another Type-moon general somewhere on 4chan.
I just want to discuss comfy Tsukihime with people, this place feels good.

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>>20925057
>half
>most
Eeh, a bit biased isn't it?

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>>20925062
Where do you get off as a tourist with passing interest in /tmg/, trying to change what it is against the wishes of the people who built this general and kept it alive for over a year? It's been great so far, why should we change it to accomodate faggots who ruined every other TM discussion thread? Have a little self-awareness, actually having this place has allowed me to stop visiting /a/ and /fgog/ for the most part, it's given me exactly what I wanted and what I missed from pre-FGO times. Why do you need to try and destroy that?

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>>20925062
>because people like different things than you.
People are here because we completely accept that. We accept that FGO has grown to massively eclipse everything else in Type-Moon and that we can't compare to the newer fanbase. That's exactly why we've had to abandon what used to be the usual discussion threads, why /a/ and /v/ became shitholes for TM discussions, and why we need a new space like /tmg/ (in /jp/, which actually has active mods) to discuss the stuff we really care about.
It was also something that happened over years, it's not like people started mentioning FGO all of a sudden and everyone threw a fit and came here. It's that after years of TM seemingly embracing this new property that a lot of people don't like, while ignoring or absorbing parts of the old works into it, it got really fucking tiring to deal with the new fans, with very little hope to look forward to for the things I care about.

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>>20925083
Shiki and Roa both have the makings of a great villain. The problem is they just... don't do a whole lot.

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>>20925087
Stop whining and complaining about people having the nerve to talk about something you don't like. I know I keep saying it, but you are a fucking child. Nothing you can say is going to change the simple fact that your entire argument is rooted in fundamentally pathetic and childish desires or behavior.

>>20925170
Again, you can totally just discuss whatever the fuck you want here even if other people are talking about FGO. If that conversation dies, it's because nobody was interested in talking about it in the first place

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>>20925085
it depends entirely if he means working hours, or all hours.

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>>20925250
If you want a mix of FGO with everything else TM, why not just go to /fgog/? The people who CAN deal with FGO talk are all in that shithole, I know for a fact there are anons there who don't play the game and only want TM lore.
Of course, the moment you let FGO into a discussion, it will dominate 90% of the thread, because it's the most trendy, regularly updated part of TM. It's normal that more people want to talk about it, and that it'll generate more buzz.
The people who are tired of that happening are here in /tmg/. They're different threads for mostly different people, who want different kinds of discussion. I don't understand your reasoning behind wanting to turn /tmg/ into a slightly cleaner /fgog/, just let it be what it always has been, even if you wanna call it "childish".

>>20925266
I was confused by this wording too. The optimism in me wants to assume work hours. Otherwise, that's pretty fucked.

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>>20925250
like 7 people are all telling you to fuck off and you keep insisting that we're in the wrong because you really want to post /fgog/ posts in here when nobody appreciates it.

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>>20925266
It's kinda weird to assume that he meant half of his waking hours.

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>>20924611
>doesn't involve the Fuyuki grail war.
Actually it does, there's a HGW backstory in GO timeline too. It is literally one of those important things that we will know more in the future, especially with Holmes and Kirei

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>>20925290
>why not just go to /fgog/?
Posting there is too fast and not enough of it is relevant to actual discussions.

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>>20925385
In that case, I would suggest making your own "FGO lore" threads, probably on /a/, you're sure to get replies because FGO fans are everywhere. Just don't try to convert what other people built into what you want.

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>>20925397
Fate threads on /a/ immediately devolve into waifu wars. I'm just gonna use Type-Moon General, thank you very much.

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>>20925385
/fgog/ is fine tho. They are discussing lore stuff so just post on that thread if you want

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>>20925412
What, are you really this blind that you don't see that's not what people use this general for? Why are you so insistent on this? Make your own general instead of taking other people's comfy threads, motherfucker.
Am I gonna need to start calling this "Tsukihime general", or maybe "Tsukihime+FSN+KnK+Mahoyo+Notes general"? "Pre-2015 Type-Moon general"?
Have it your way, if you want to have a bad time while ruining other people's fun THAT badly. As others have said, it'd be much easier for everyone if you just went on /fgog/.

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>>20925412
/a/ is okay. Just don't use FSN girls as OP's image

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>>20925290
I don't want to turn anything into anything. What I want is for people to talk about whatever the fuck they want to talk without somebody throwing a stupid temper tantrum. Pretending that letting people occasionally mention FGO, you know a Type moon product, is going to somehow lead to this thread only being about FGO is dumb. Really, really dumb. And once you also start talking about chasing people away, you've officially become a asshole manbaby. Now please, either grow up or leave.

>>20925298
It's one, maybe two, people complaining. There are just as many grown up, sensible people, that are fine with the occasional FGO discussion. Stop pretending everybody here is as dumb as you.

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>>20925326
It has its role in the backstory, sure. But it's not the main focus, like it has been in most other Fate products.

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>>20925479
The only one throwing a temper tantrum right now is you!

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>>20925434
The only one ruining peoples fun is you. Get over yourself, you pathetic cretin. Scum like you doesn't deserve anything. Least of all the sympathy of other people.

If you want to make this a tsukihime general, then go do that and leave now.

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>>20925486
I'm not throwing anything. Literally my only desire is for people to do as they please and discuss whatever Type Moon product they desire. It's people like you that are the problem.

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>>20925479
Is it really that unclear that this is a Type-Moon thread for people unsatsified with current state of Type-Moon? I'm seriously considering adding something like that to the OP now.
As I said before, occasional FGO discussion is inevitable because it has grown to encompass Type-Moon as a whole, I just don't want to invite any FGO fans here specifically to talk about it.

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>>20925434
How does it feel to turn from oldfag into a secondary by shielding yourself from new information?

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>>20925505
I don't shield myself from information at all, I play FGO JP and keep up to date with every new event/Lostbelt. At least as much as your average aspiring JOP.

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everytime I think of doing something for this community I see faggots like this mongoloid

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>>20925496
>GOfags ruin every single TM thread on this website for years
>/fgog/ itself starts decent, but goes to shit in less than a year
>FGO NA makes it even worse
>start an irrelevant, small community mostly populated by people who are tired of hearing about FGO to talk about other TM shit, because if you wanna talk about FGO why not just visit the thousand other threads that exist
>said community remains great for a year
>WAAAAHHHH WHY DON'T YOU LET FGOFAGS SHIT UP THIS PLACE TOO, STOP RUINING MY FUN

Eat shit and die, I was done dealing with FGO shitters years ago, I don't need you here now. You've already made this thread a shitfest, if you want it to keep going you can just keep replying instead of moving on to one of your many FGO generals.

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Russian TM community died because of stubborness and stagnation even before F/GO came out and this general's similarity is uncanny. That's just sad.

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>>20925614
I care about a single character and whatever context needed to fully understand their setting.
Probably not the best person to talk about this.

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You're all ridiculous. Half of this thread is arguing what they should discuss instead of discussing anything TM related. It's just 2 groups fighting about what they want or don't want to discuss.

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>>20925614
The TM community that accepts FGO for what it is is in /fgog/, so just go there if that's what you want.
To me, TM will remain dead until Nasu works on a proper main project that isn't more Servant milking in a mobage.

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>>20925643
It's almost like the fanbase is heavily split and has chosen to break up because there is literally no solution to preventing shitposting besides avoiding each other.

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>>20925643
I think you should all listen to this man's wisdom.
KnK are awful movies.

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>>20925669
I actually agree.

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>>20925669
I really enjoyed them when they got out, but the more time pass, the more I think thoses movies weren't that good indeed. Or I'm just getting really tired of Ufo's artstyle

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>>20925643
Welcome to every Fate thread on /a/ in 2016-2017
Everything ended up as an argument over FGO, no one got the actual discussion they wanted.
That's why now, if you wanna talk FGO, you can just go to one of the other boards, and if you don't like that piece of trash, you can just come here. Handy, right?

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>>20925688
Yeah I get it, you're a whiny guy who can't accept that your niche serie got popular and new entries. Can we get over it or do we need 3 more years and 100 messages here before discussing something else?

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>>20925652
>just go there if that's what you want
I don't want to go through tons of shitposters, powerlevelfags, waifufags and other bullshit to find posts that are worth reading.
>To me, TM will remain dead until Nasu works on a proper main project that isn't more Servant milking in a mobage.
Then you should be fine without this thread as well. Everything from old TM was already discussed.
>>20925666
There's no solution because there was never a problem. No one even tried to maintain actual unified TM general.

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>>20925714
Fate has been super popular and a staple of /a/ since long before FGO trash.

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>>20925734
>No one even tried to maintain actual unified TM general.
That has happened way before this /tmg/ and it died in a short time, newfag.
This TM general was never a "unification", and will not become that.

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>>20925714
>Fate
>niche

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It's impossible to unify anything because FGO fags fill up over 3 general threads a day even when absolutely nothing is going on just by shitposting.

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>>20925502
1: It is unclear. FGO is just as much part of Fate as any other book 2: It's stupid. It's fine if you would have a thread that rather focuses on other works, but don't start talking about chasing people away.

>>20925565
>GOfags ruin every single TM thread on this website for years
The only people ruining anything are people whining about GO fags.

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>>20925688
If you don't want to argue about FGO, then just don't argue about FGO. Like, the whole point of a general is that it's, you know, general. A conversation can be going on without it intervening with the one you are having.

>>20925666
That's only true if one, or both, sides are made up of literal children.

Or religion is involved, I guess.

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Look, unless you ignore or ridicule GO you are only promoting the problem.
You may complain about it and what not, but unless you go all in and want it to not exist, you are creating the future you failed to stop.

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>>20925734
>Everything from old TM was already discussed.
That's why this thread has survived around nostalgia, speculation about future TM stuff that would actually be good and restore some of the potential Fate/Tsukihime had before FGO, and sharing people's first experience with TM stuff (like the anon who's just now reading Tsukihime, and the person who recently finished Kara no Kyoukai). That's plenty of material for a slow general. We don't need to discuss the ongoing happenings of a gacha shitfest that is already discussed everywhere else, unless it's directly related to other products (like Sion and all other Tsukihime references in GO).

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>>20925787
>This is what people actually believe.
Why does every place on this site has to be invested with man children?

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>>20925787
I don't like FGO either but that literally changes nothing. No one here - or even in fgog - has any influence on TM as a whole.

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>>20925753
>That has happened way before this /tmg/ and it died in a short time
Just making a thread doesn't require effort.
>will not become that
There's literally nothing you can do to prevent that.
>>20925767
We don't have to bring here the discussions of the game itself or even its plot. Just lore would be fine.

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>>20925796
Japan is irrelevant, as is the larger normie base.
All that can be done is here.

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This got linked to the /alter/ shitposters a couple of days ago. It all makes sense.
/fgog/ regulars aren't too bad.

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>>20925774
Well then fuck me, if it wasn't clear enough, yes, this is the place where everyone who used to argue endlessly against FGO ended up, and personally I'm just so tired of it that I was happy to have a general where I rarely had to interact with GOfags ever again.
Now that that's been made clear to you, can you just let the general keep going as it has for a year, or do you really need another place to discuss FGO in THAT fucking badly?

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>>20925812
>We don't have to bring here the discussions of the game itself or even its plot. Just lore would be fine.
this whole comment thread started because you retards started shitposting about FGO characters and pairings. LB3 dropped over 3 months ago and FGO has had zero relevant lore updates.

when people posted about hanako nobody got upset because it was actually relevant.

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>>20925847
This is the absolute peak of the female body. Nothing will ever top this perfection.
Amen.

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>>20925855
It it was a female giraffe.

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>>20925841
>FGO has had zero relevant lore updates.
Not that anon but Valentine and Murasaki's profile have some Onmyoudo, Douman and Seimei stuff though. And Kingprotea has Moon Cell and Hindu myth too

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>>20925816
It's sad, really.

>>20925832
I mean, if you don't throw a temper tantrum every time somebody dares to even so much as mention FGO. Then, sure.

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>>20925855
Peak is when her hair goes full crimson later on in that route. She has a fascinating mind then too.

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Looks like we can't get to 310 fast enough.

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only thing worse than /fgog/ are these /alter/ faggots who need to rely on translations by reddit users who can barely read kanji and a "professional" translation run through 3 different parties.

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>>20925876
I'm not really a fan of her red hair. But this cg was beautiful.

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>>20925874
I haven't said anything about any of the lore discussions in the past week, I'm interested in the lore myself and how much cool stuff is gonna get wasted on a kusoge.
As the other anon said, it was the fawning over characters/pairings, and the implication that we should just accept FGOfags with open arms here. Don't do that, if you wanna get excited and be a happy shit eater for more GOshit, there are better places for it.

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>>20925908
Her flowing red hair looks amazing animated in Melty, you should check it out after you're done reading (if you haven't yet).

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>>20925920
What? You mean this post: >>20924517

It's literally just one person mentioning the MC of FGO. That's fucking it. There is literally zero implication that posters wants you to accept anything.

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>>20925434
I adore them and the soundtracks will be in the background of my life as long as it lasts

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>>20925953
This whole discussion was you saying there's nothing wrong with GOfags invading this general, and the one post about Dantes got like 3 replies.
Just don't pull that kind of shit, ever.

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>>20926072
I assume you meant to reply to another poster anon, but I agree, KnK movies embody everything I love about TM. I constantly rewatch them to this day, just finished 7 again yesterday.

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>>20926074
No, the whole discussion was you randomly throwing a temper tantrum because one guy dared to mention FGO.

>and the one post about Dantes got like 3 replies.
The... horror?

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>>20926131
Jesus fuck, just give it up. Plenty of people have told you in this very thread that /tmg/ was made for everything BUT FGO discussions, everyone who's kept it alive hates FGO, that's been an accepted fact around here since forever, to the point where we're even tired of talking about how much we hate it, and just wanna be positive about non-Fate Type-Moon stuff. You just decided to ask why people dislike FGO and start a whole shitfest about it because I suppose you're a newfag who wants to talk about GO lore here. That's fine, I'm begrudgingly accepting that you do that so long as you don't act like a GOfag, but let it rest. People don't wanna hear about this whole conflict anymore, /tmg/ is a resting place from that, I really hope this is the last thread where I see someone like you.

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>>20926173
> You just decided to ask why people dislike FGO and start a whole shitfest about it because I suppose you're a newfag who wants to talk about GO lore here.
I asked, and got my answer. You people started a shitfest by trying to shut down any conversation involving FGO for stupid, childish, and petty reasons. Don't try to blame me because you can't handle that other people like something you don't.

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>>20926213
You do realize you're part of the problem by continuously shitposting, trying to force a change? I'm not going to justify the grandpas talking past you, but you're response to getting told to fuck off is to call people petulant children and pathetic cretins, then accuse *them* of throwing a temper tantrum.

You're not even trying to actually talk about FGO lore. Post something decent, ignore the shitposts, and if no one wants to discuss it, then no one wants to discuss it. No matter the circumstances, you can't force someone to talk to you.

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Did Shinji fuck Rider?

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>>20923475
>>20923508
>>20923554
Nasu on Tsukihime's remake

>"It's like when you write - when you're younger, you look back on [previous work] and you think 'Oh, goodness what was I thinking,'" Nasu explained. "It's not that I'm embarrassed, I just don't like to look at my previous works."
>Nasu: When I wrote Tsukihime, I felt resistance towards so many things—society, entertainment, culture—and it was my motivation to write the story. Now, I am thrilled to be writing from a place of gratitude, though with just a touch of sadness. It feels like the old Nasu Kinoko has passed on. I suppose you could say I've gone under a heavy detox, and feel much more virtuous now (laughs).

Thoughts?

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>>20926213
Great for you buddy, you managed to bring to this general the thing it was created to avoid, due to your ignorance on the subject, and ruined this thread in the process. Again, I hope you really are satisfied with your answer and won't try to argue about FGO again.

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>>20926246
It's pretty heavily implied that he did.

>>20926258
He realizes that what made the original great was his mindset. While I understand that it'd be impossible to replicate that in the Remake, I just hope he pays homage to it and doesn't completely ruin what made the atmosphere and feel of the original so memorable.

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>>20926234
>You do realize you're part of the problem by continuously shitposting, trying to force a change?
If i'm trying to force a change, then i'm not shitposting.

>but you're response to getting told to fuck off is to call people petulant children and pathetic cretins, then accuse *them* of throwing a temper tantrum.
I'm sorry for calling a square a square. But anybody that makes a post like this: >>20924856 is a whiny manchild cretin.

>You're not even trying to actually talk about FGO lore.
Because I don't want to, at least right now. But I also don't want people to suddenly throw yet another temper tantrum when I do, for whatever reason, bring it up.

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>>20926268
I'm not going to argue about it, but I am going to talk about it whenever I see fit. If you have a problem with that, just ignore it.

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>>20926083
Thanks for catching on, whoops

But yes -- I decided to investigate them early last year and their creative approach took with me in an instant. Reading the novels now, I appreciate the composition of the movies and their commitment to atmosphere even more. The relatively sparse dialogue (for anime) and numerous establishing shots do a great job of suggesting 'vacancy', which is obviously appropriate for the material, and TM's particular style has represented a delicate mystery to me for years now.

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>Nasu finally moving on from High School entirely and finally making something completely new
>/tmg/ hates it

Why?

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>>20926332
>I'm not going to argue about it
>proceeds to argue about it for 6 hours
You seem like the type incapable of recognizing that you might be wrong about anything, so inb4 splitting hairs

Get a trip so I can filter you.

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>>20926173
>>20926213
>>20926131
>>20926074
>>20925953
>>20925920
>>20925874
>Humans are the super duper bestest race ever
>Humans are so amazing they became the dominant species of Earth and made the Gods fuck off
>Humans are so cool that there's a metaphysical force that exists outside of even time dedicated to recording the greatest specimens of humanity
>Humans are so fucking great that despite being so good they're also so bad that just by existing eldritch anti-human abominations can come to but it's fine because humans are destined to overcome them
>Humans are so super duper the best that when things go to hell for humans the entire universe decides to shut down because a bloo bloo bloo poor humans aren't prospering on this time. What's this? There was a gorillion of other non-human lives and civilizations in the universe? Who cares, only humans matter
>Humans are so amazing that they will manage to outgrow their planet and reach beyond the stars also if their planet dies and wants them to fuck off and gets the other planets to to make them fuck-off humans go and fuck up the shit of the other planets because they're able to thrive on a dead world and become stronger than the ultimate ones from other planets
>What's this? I used to write something where humans were not top dogs? Tsuki-what? Don't remember it

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>>20926292
What was the purpose of those choices ? it didn't change anything, did it ?

Picture unrelated but god, I wish I were Shiki right now.

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>>20926332
Okay, so long as you don't act like a huge braindead FGOfag or talk about the cutest pairings/characters, or waifupost, I doubt anyone will try to argue with you or find you a big annoyance. Just keep it to the raw lore stuff, if you must.

>>20926352
Personally I don't have an issue with high school, it's about the presentation, the way the setting is used, the way characters are introduced, the protagonist, and how proeminent Nasu's writing style is. All of these are noticeably way weaker in FGO compared to his other major works.

>>20926341
Reading the novels was a real treat as someone who loved the movies, since they have a lot of extra little details, despite how faithful the movies are.
But yeah, the different atmospheres of each individual movie are absolutely masterful, the way it presents the city and how the music is used created some truly unforgettable scenes.
Urban fantasy mystery is probably my favorite genre of fiction at this point, in no small part thanks to Nasu.

>>20926380
It's been years since I read it, but doesn't picking the wrong room lead to a bad end at the end of Akiha's?
And yeah, Shiki is a damn lucky guy.

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>>20926365
Most of this lore was around long, LONG before FGO was a thing. Humans have always been kind of awesome in the Nasuverse, despite their flaws.

>I used to write something where humans were not top dogs? Tsuki-what? Don't remember it
Did we play the same visual novel? Vampires feed on humans, sure. But there is a reason why they don't rule the planet, and humans do.

Also, why am I not surprised misandry would be mentioned here eventually. Never change, /jp/. Never change.

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>>20926410
>replying to a bait pasta

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>>20926380
>Wanting to fuck worst maid while her sister is still around.
Why?

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>>20926415
Yeah, sorry. Couldn't resist.

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>>20926397
>Okay, so long as you don't act like a huge braindead FGOfag
I like the game. So... Guess not?

>or talk about the cutest pairings/characters,
I don't really ship characters.

>or waifupost,
Don't do that either. Even if I do adore a few FGO girls.

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>>20926428
Yeah, I'm gonna second that anon's request for a trip so I can filter you.

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>>20926438
Dude, just get over yourself. I'm going to talk about whatever i want. There is nothing you can do to stop me. Accept that, and please grow up. I know I keep saying that, but it's only because it needs to be said. You are a child, and shouldn't be posting on a thread like this.

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>>20926428
Hey newfag, you don't need to respond to literally every single post with a (You) in it

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>>20926359
I'm not going to argue about the quality of FGO. I never did that, just read my posts. But I am going to argue in favour of the idea that people can talk about, you know, a type moon property like FGO without getting chased out by manchildren.

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>>20926451
And you don't need to be a annoying dumbass. Yet, here we are.

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>>20926447
Autism

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>>20926419
Not fucking her, just cuddling and loving her purely. She's done enough.
Hisui can't compete. She's a virgin but she lost the beauty of her youth.

[Anonymous No.]

let's name the next few generals /anythingbutFGO/ until the rewards leave

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>>20926475
Well, i'm anything I'm glad you're starting to understand yourself. Now get help, please.

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>>20926483
I agree. Rewards are terrible.

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>>20926476
Hisui is still beauty incarnate. Both on the inside and outside.

I do agree that Kohaku needs hugs though. Lots of them.

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>>20926483
Unironically agree with this if you meant retards.
I'm at least adding a PSA that /fgog/ exists for FGO fans to the OP.

[Anonymous No.]

Nasu hasn't written anything good since hollow ataraxia with the exception of mahoyo which will never be completed.

Prove me wrong.

[Anonymous No.]

Nice

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>>20926510
Mirai Fukuin and Extra/Extra CCC are alright
But you're overall correct, Mahoyo was his last great work, and it could've been his masterpiece with 2+3.

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>>20926513
Good. This is all anybody wanted in the first place.

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>>20926510
But anon, Mahoyo also sucked

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>>20926510
>Prove me wrong.
You somehow think ataraxia was good.

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>>20926513
kek

[Anonymous No.]

Alright, let's go back to regular posting, today really sucked for /tmg/

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>>20926650
Sure.

...Rape the maids?

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>>20926661
Always

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>tfw so dead you have to raid a /vg/ general
How sad

[Anonymous No.]

>>20926763
Who raided who?
This was like the most active day for /tmg/ in months, for awful reasons.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20926763
"""raid"""

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>>20926779
No one cares about a shithole where its the same 5 samefags posting waifus
It's obvious you came to shit up /fgog/

[Anonymous No.]

>>20926783
My bad, you can't raid when your active user count amounts to 5

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>>20926790
Some random crosspost is not a raid, dumbass.
Stop blowing stuff out of proportion.

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>>20926415
It may be bait but technically not wrong. Ultimately, the issue is that while that stuff used to just be part of the lore now it's really shoved on your face 24/7. And the part about Tsuki refers to how Tsuki Worlds aren't ruled on Common Sense of Human or whatever it was called but on whatever something else instead.

[Anonymous No.]

Fuck off and kill yourselves you niggers
remakes never LMAO

[Anonymous No.]

Okay guys, I have a vital question.
I finished Kohaku-san route just now. Ciel told me I yet have to finish Shiki's route if I understand correctly.

How do I do that ? She told about the Moon, I thought about the moon from the screen title but it's just an easter egg from mirror-moon.

I have to tell you I skipped Ciel route... It's the last I would need to do. Please, please tell me I don't have to do it in order to unlock the last part of the game.

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>>20926855
Yes. You should have just done it before Akiha.

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>>20926849
I actually agree, obviously human characters were always the focus, but they didn't use "humanity yeaaah" as an excuse for one of the "central themes" in the story, it's so dumb.

>>20926855
Yeah, too bad anon. It's not a whole "Shiki route" you're missing, but if you wanna unlock the final epilogue of the game, you do have to get all the major endings, including Ciel's.
If you really, really just hate Ciel, I recomend skipping through her route so you just unlock the epilogue. It's definitely worth seeing and the proper ending of Tsukihime.

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>>20926855
it's a fucking picture book just click lmao

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>>20926855
>Woooow what do you mean I have to finish all the routes of a VN to get the True Ending
C'mon son.

[Anonymous No.]

Nasu don't care about you guys
imagjne still playing ugly ass art with outdated lore

[Anonymous No.]

bros... when is the remake bros...

[Anonymous No.]

Okay thanks. I'll do Ciel tomorrow. Maybe I will take a liking to her, who knows ?
And I will probably see Arc again, so that's good.
Sweet dreams, I'm out.

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>>20926888
I don't know but I'm tired of waiting.

[Anonymous No.]

Can Archetype Moon beat Tiamat?

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>>20926352
>Nasu finally moving on from High School
He really hasn't. If he had moved on from High School he would have moved on from Fate entirely.

[Anonymous No.]

https://mangadex.org/chapter/552327/1
Shimosa manga translated.

Female Ritsuka is pretty cute.

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>>20926927
>Archetype Moon
No such thing exists

>>20927084
That art is really damn good. Shame I don't find any of the EoR stuff remotely appealing.

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>>20927096
I'm loving it for the art and the fact it fleshes out the mc in a likable way. They really should be hired to adapt the entirety of FGO following this vein.

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>>20927005
There's literally nothing wrong with taking your childhood dreams and notebook stories and ideas and finally turning them into real stories and share them for the world to see, and end up with a multi-million media cultural icon franchise on the process of it. Always be mindful of having a Takeuchi covering your back though, else you go full retard with your high school chuuni.

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>>20927248
There was nothing wrong with it until he squandered all the potential his ideas had by turning them into soulless cashgrab gacha shit, thus invalidating all the effort and genuine passion he still tries to put into FGO sometimes.
Fate is fucked, Nasu needs to either make a proper Fate game or finally grab the potential that Tsukihime and Mahoyo still have.

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>>20926352
Chaldea is basically one.

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>>20926528
Use the same pathetic arguments again, I dare you.

[Anonymous No.]

Rate Type-Moon works

>10/10
Fate/stay night (VN)
>9/10
Kara no Kyoukai (films), Tsukihime (VN+manga)
>8/10
Kara no Kyoukai (books), Mahoyo, Fate/Zero, Melty blood (the game, not the story)
>7/10
Kagetsu Tohya, el-Melloi II Case Files, Fate/Strange Fake
>6/10
Notes, Fate/Extra, Fate/hollow Ataraxia
>5/10
Tsuki no Sango, Fate/kaleid Liner Prisma Illya
>4/10
Fate Extra: Last Encore
>3/10
Fate/Apocrypha
>2/10
Fate/Extella
>1/10
Fate/Grand Order

[Anonymous No.]

>>20927434
>10/10
Thing you dislike.

>1/10
Thing you like.

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>>20927519
God damn that's pretty awful taste dude

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>>20927434
>10/10
Anything with my wife in it
>...
Irrelevant.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20927535
Good taste

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>>20926876
>outdated lore
>discarded by Nasu himself alone with shits like kiara, bb, passionlip in Extellaverse
Oh no no look who is talking

[Anonymous No.]

Is the extra ccc translation done yet?

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>>20927248
I don't think there's anything wrong with it either, but I do tire of the push and pulling of it like taffy.

I'm probably in the minority here but I really just want Nasu to move on completely. That includes Tsukihime, KnK, Mahoyo, AND Fate. In my opinion - aside from Mahoyo - all of these titles ended well in their own respective pieces and the smaller extra stories made thereafter were mostly unobtrusive and supplemental in a positive way. The longer ANY series goes on the more you retroactively risk diminishing the originals and their qualities. I would rather see a graceful and modest exiting of the stage from these series, while they still maintain dignity. That's my opinion, though. Do I think Nasu would ever do such a thing? Probably not. I get the feeling he'll be writing material for Fate until the day he retires, and I'm sure many people will support him in doing so. Far be it for me to chide their enjoyment, but I can say with confidence that Fate has already exhausted all the things I would ever want to see from the series and I no longer have any investment in it.

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>>20927760
Nope, cj_iwakura's last update was a fucking while ago.
I think there's a translated playthrough of the Gilgamesh route that I'm tempted to watch. At the same time though, I feel that'd kill one of my motivations to learn Japanese, but I've been finding it hard to get back into that anyway.

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>>20927672
BB is off sucking the cock of the FGO protagonist these days

[Anonymous No.]

Why do you guys hate F/GO?
The gameplay too hard for you?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20927813
Back to /vg/.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20927774
It would appear so, but if you buy last years material book you'll see that every bit if affection she shows to him is just shitposting.

not that I think most of the FGO writers now that.

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>>20927819
>peabrain can't handle a jrpg

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>>20927772
there's no point in even just reading a servant route and not the true end too, really.

It's like only reading fate route

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>>20927825
We are at bump limit now, you're wasting your time.

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>>20927820
>fgo material book
really?

[Anonymous No.]

Do you think Nasu likes UNiB and it's unapologetic levels of chuuni?

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>>20927861
I hope so, cause I personally love it the more I play it.

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>>20927854
yes.

why are there several material books for an always online game that gets regular patches and makes endless amounts of money?

who knows.

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Urobuchi hanging out and drinking with Uchikoshi from Zero Escape

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>>20927774
>BB
No. BB, Tamamo and Nero still loves Hakuno(n)

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>>20926365
>Fate Worlds
>Affirmation of Human History
>Humanity are the center, Gaia's creatures are weaker
>"why humans are so strong in those worlds where they stand at the center? Why are DAA so weak ?"

>Tsukihime World(s)
>XXXXXXXX of the Human History
>Dead Apostles are the center, HS can't even be summoned
>nobody said anything

But yeah anyway, humanity >>>>>>>>>> other species is the main theme of Nasuverse, in both Fate and Tsukihime Worlds

[Anonymous No.]

>>20928297
I guess the Extra protag is cool with his waifus giving out Valentine's day candy to other males and regularly flirting with them too

[Anonymous No.]

>>20928616
>regularly flirting with them too
Huh ? Their relationship with Fujimaru were stated in their mats anyway

[Anonymous No.]

Reminder Karoshi's a shitter.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20928744
This is correct.
What dumb shit did he say this time?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20928780
Nothing I know of.
Just reminding people how much of a grub he is.

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>>20928347
On top of this, alien species development and further planetary travel IS meant to be super weird. Not even the lovecraft shit is capable of it (and needs humanity help).

See Void surprised at meeting an "alien" (MHX). How around all Milky Way only apparently earth was able to be spared of the Umbral Star harvest.

[Anonymous No.]

I won't believe you if you tell me a girl more perfect than her exists in the nasuverse.

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>>20929825
It all comes down to personal taste, Tsukihime in particular has god-tier girls.

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>>20930282
I have a question about how Aoko's magic works.
Specifically about what it means for her to "consume" something.
Can she "consume" ANY abstract idea or object? I ask because it seems to me that she "consumes" Soujuurou's childhood and uses it to spontaneously age herself up. Like eating someone else's time and then giving it to yourself (and then in reverse to put it back).
I remember arguments about her consuming shit into magical energy, but is her power far more abstract and general then that?
Also what is the difference between "consumption" and "extinction?" Is it like the difference between burning something to use as fuel and burning something just to watch it fizzle out of existence with no greater purpose?

My thanks for the clarification.

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>>20929825
One thing is for sure though, her CGs are the best ones

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>>20930442
5th isn't fully explained.
I've argued this far too many times, basically don't think and wait for Nasu to do the right thing.

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[Anonymous No.]

>>20930544
But you see her do things with it. You see her siphon off another past and that time to artificially age herself. You see her siphon off heat energy from the cosmos and use it to fuel timeline snipping and slicing. I know that Nasu said that Goetia's np, which consumed human history for time travel fuel, is reverse foreshadowing of blue, which is a lot like what she did to send Soujuurou's death forward in time, but is this not indicative of broad-ranging authority to consume arbitrary aspects of existence? I mean, consuming objects and energy for magical energy seems pretty straightforward, but consuming another persons' memories of the past to time travel yourself into the future is pretty damn abstract and could reasonably used to justify saying "the limits to what she can and cannot consume are functionally null." Or at least, that's how it seems to me.

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>>20930656
Nasu is still hinting at things, so there is no reason to talk about it before he fully explains it.

[Anonymous No.]

lol nasu is never going to explains shit.

his whole meme is introducing a bunch of concepts at once and then only ever explaining half of them.

I'd be surprised if she even manages to get through all the beasts before dropping them for a new shiny toy

[Anonymous No.]

>>20930978
I know that, and when Nasu does it is almost always in materials.
Goddamn prick, it is such an effective way to keep people invested.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20920991
I'm working on mahoyo now. I haven't posted any updates because I was planning on doing so only after I make significant progress. I haven't done much for the time. But I'm working on it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20930978
>>20931005
And it work so well you nerds are still here aching for more despite hating all TM currently stands on. Learn from him when writing your own story, fags.

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>>20931419
90% of people play fgo because it's free and has anime tits, nasus writing is honestly irrelevant.

you can tell by the fact that he barely writes chapters anyway and that all his other work like the extra series performs like shit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20931419
I can't let go, as much as things have been irrelevant to me since 2012.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20931434
>he barely writes chapters anyway
For the current LB arc, Nasu writes every intro & outro, the base team (Gordolf, Sion,...), arranges the story and probably will in charge of LB5 (according to those rumors from Chinese players)

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>>20931434
>nasus writing is honestly irrelevant
https://www.4gamer.net/games/266/G026651/20181228023/
2019 New Year event is also written by Nasu, and every servant's illust + animation stuff from the interview too btw (blame you damn Mushroom for Brad's stupid NP animation)

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>>20931434
>90% of people play fgo because it's free and has anime tits, nasus writing is honestly irrelevant.
And I'm not talking about them in my post, so why the fuck are you bringing them up? Is this how you cope or something?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20931722
he only comes up the setting for the base team.
you can tell because they go out of character in several different chapters

>>20931775
supervising hardly counts as writing.

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>>20922277
Notes is essentially, like most Nasu works a rumination on what "humanity" is. It draws distinction between humanity as a concept and humanity the physical form, asking if humanity can live on beyond the death of humans to put it in brief.

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>>20931775
So what? That doesn't change that anon's point, that writing is not the main appeal of FGO for the majority of fans.

>>20931722
That's very little overall compared to what I would really consider "Nasu's works". FGO is so lacking in identity, one of the things I hate about it.