/jp/ - Otaku Culture

[Anonymous No.]

If a published and competent Western author decided to write a visual novel, would you read it?

Pic related, if this guy made a VN I'd get two copies. Preordered.

[White Ren !YLuFFdRcFQ No.]

I want a visual novel depicting crazed sappers with explosive munitions.

[Anonymous No.]

Sure, why not? I read some Stephen King novels in the past.

[Anonymous No.]

Too bad he's no longer with us ;_;

[Anonymous No.]

>>2088356
I'd play a Shawshank VN, where half the time you dig a tunnel, and the other half you avoid being anally raped.

[Anonymous No.]

When he decides to come back from the dead, I'm totally gonna read his VNs.

[Anonymous No.]

He was the real writer for Saya no Uta.

[Anonymous No.]

No

[Anonymous No.]

Yes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2088420
Every end would be BAD END.

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

Beckett rewriting Hisui's route. FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF

[Anonymous No.]

But why would a published and competent Western author decide to write a visual novel, let alone know about one?

[Anonymous No.]

>>2088442
Not neccesarily a "bad" thing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2088473
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hopscotch_(Julio_Cort%C3%A1zar_novel)

[Anonymous No.]

When we say "visual novel," do we mean "choose your own adventure with pictures" or "book on a computer screen with sprites?"

Either way, I want to bring this motherfucker back from the dead to write one. You'd have no idea who was good or bad roughly three-fourths of the time.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2088473
It would be easier to take a pre-existing story and turn it into a VN.

[Anonymous No.]

I choose this guy to write VN -Gunslinger Girl III

[Anonymous No.]

>>2088473
It's not like writers don't like trying new things once in a while.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2088515
Not really. You don't get famous American writters doing scripts for Hollywood, do you?

[Anonymous No.]

>>2088520
William Faulkner. His script sucked, though.

[Anonymous No.]

All books need to be ported to VNs, I have no imagination and long descriptions of every little thing bore the living shit out of me, but I like the look of a lot of some book's stories

[Anonymous No.]

>>2088323

Actually, Stephen King considers Rose Red to be a visual novel, according to Everything's Eventual.

Or maybe it was Storm of the Century. Either way, he says he's written a visual novel.

[Anonymous No.]

>If a published and competent Western author decided to write a text adventure, would you play it?
Fixed. I have the feeling that most authors wound see writing picture books as being a step backwards.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2088543

Then he doesn't know shit.

[Anonymous No.]

>If a published and competent Western author decided to write a text adventure, would you play it?
Fixed. I have the feeling that most authors would see writing picture books as being a step backwards.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2088552
There's already that game based on Hitchhiker's Guide to Galaxy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2088552
>>2088552
There's already that game based on Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2088566
That doesn't count, Douglas Adams never got around to writing the sequel so we're stuck on the surface of Magrathean for the rest of eternity.

[Anonymous No.]

Niccolò Machiavelli.I guess he gonna give the hell up in VN write. (Only if he come back from dead)

[Anonymous No.]

James Joyce = Kafka > Balzac > Dostoevsky > Henry James = Joseph Conrad > Hemingway > Thomas Mann > Poe > Faulkner > Hugo = Italo Calvino = Jorge Luis Borges > Flaubert

[Anonymous No.]

Does anyone else wanna see a VN released for the iPhone?

[Anonymous No.]

Stephen King is a terrible author, but he'd probably make an ok writer for VNs. Maybe the new medium would even rekindle his creativity a little.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2088370
My first thought as well. ;_;

[Anonymous No.]

Umberto Eco would write awesome VNs. Just go watch The Name of The Rose (about a monk detective) and read Foucault's Pendulum (conspiracy theories) and you'll see what I mean.

[Anonymous No.]

>Joseph Conrad > Hemingway

[Anonymous No.]

>>2088378
>Shawshank VN

Get busy...
[ ] Living
[ ] Dying
[ ] Raping the maids

[Anonymous No.]

>>2088875

Hemingway was a hack. Get over it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2088442
You mean like every Key game?

[Anonymous No.]

Stephen King is a shitty hack of a writer who's written dozens of books, only two or three of which are actually any good.

He writes generic monster-under-the-bed horror but with a lot of phoned-in shock appeal in the form of ten year old girls getting gangbanged. He's basically R.L. Stein but with more fucking and swearing.

AND HE DARED TO INSULT TWILIGHT

[Anonymous No.]

>>2088875
Ernest Boringway.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2088919
But everyone, hack writer or not, dares to insult Twilight.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2088486
Exactly what I was thinking. Except Rayuela is overrated, I think. Never saw the appeal...
>>2088919
Motherfucking King, the only man capable of ruining a perfect zombie setting. Shit was awful, I liked him better when he was a drunk with nothing to lose early in his career.

Speaking of, I have right here in a short story collection book, something called "Choose your own story (for adults)" by Fontanarrosa. Unfortunately, it's in spanish and on paper, so tough deal for you. But it basically plays out as a gentleman in a business trip choosing what to do with a bar bimbo.
There are no good ends, always something goes wrong. A good read, actually.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2088919
Stephen King maybe a mediocre writer but he is still FATHOMS above the quality of Twilight.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2089005
Agreed, twilight is fanfic that managed to get published for some reason.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2089021

>managed to get published

Good call for the publisher. Bad call for literature as a whole?

[Anonymous No.]

>>2089034
Not really. It's not like all writers on fanfiction.net could get published. It still takes a certain amount of skill to know how to appeal to the lowest denominator yet sell well.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2088919
>dared
>insult twilight

I mean, I guess the scariest thing about that would be the crazed fangirls with access to some form of weaponry.

Pissing off those girls might require balls.

But it was the just thing to do! Stephen King spoke his mind regardless of the concequences! A REAL AMERICAN HERO.

[Anonymous No.]

Pynchon. Gravity's Rainbow would become a fetishist's dream (as well as his other works). Vonnegut would be cool, too.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2089055

Gag me with a shovel, man.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2088470

[Anonymous No.]

>>2089085
Watchmen VN Y/N?

[Anonymous No.]

>>2089196
Sounds good.

And possibly homosexual.

Must investigate further.

[Anonymous No.]

I'd like to see Jim Butcher write a Visual novel.

Come on, the Harry Dresden books are already in first person and has lots of hot chicks in it. Just Harry would need to get laid more.

[Anonymous No.]

Or here's an idea; why doesn't somebody out there make a good, well written VN? I know /jp/ has some little project going on, but from what I've seen it's same-old, same-old.

Don't wait for these great dudes to do it for you. Try it for yourselves. If all you do is find out you're not cut out for writing, well, lesson learned.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2089262
I've already tried writing, I end up writing sues or joke characters for leads.

[Anonymous No.]

Do you guys think good writing is something that can be acquired through painstaking practice or is it something that certain people are innately good at?

[Anonymous No.]

>>2089277
You need life experience in order to make realistic, believable characters. Something people who rarely leave their basement can never accomplish.

[Anonymous No.]

Robert J. Motherfucking Sawyer. I would read the shit out of that, and he'd probably make the protagonist/narrator character blind or deaf for the first three chapters just to fuck with us.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2089277
A bit of both, I'd say. Some have a natural talent and expand on it, but I'd imagine it can also be learned from scratch.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2089268
Best way to cure a Sue: Have them be a dick, and make sure there are real consequences. When they try to overcome the results of those consequences, a partial failure is the best outcome.

[Anonymous No.]

Terry Pratchett, before his brain breaks.

[White Ren !YLuFFdRcFQ No.]

>>2089277
The format and breadth of knowledge about the subject you intend to write about can be learned.

The stylishness you write with and the authenticity of the world you try to create is a reflection of yourself.

[ZUN !barYV1VtIA No.]

>>2089285

Not true at all.

If you want to be a good author, then read a ton of books. If you want to be a good director, then watch a ton of movies. If you want to be a good game designer, then be a Game_Expert (over 10,000 videogames played).

You're supposed to learn from the experiences of others; using your only own experiences would be limiting. So do stay in that basement, but also do your homework!

[Anonymous No.]

>>2089285
Some empathy and imagination can help with that though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2089294
Like Tendou Souji?

[Anonymous No.]

I can write, I just need a good artist to draw for me.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2089329
No idea who that is. Short summary?

[Anonymous No.]

>>2088323
No, for the same reason I read manga instead of comics.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2089021 twilight is fanfic
What exactly is it a fanfic of?

Don't be stupid. Meyer is at least as good an author as Rowling. The only reason people bash on Twilight is because it's a romance, and everyone's like "uuuuuugh, kissing! I'd rather read about preteens shooting lasers at eachother!"

[Anonymous No.]

>>2089381
...I'm sorry, but the only thing I'm getting out of this is 'Japan is better at everything in every way'. I only hope I'm wrong, so I'm just going to ask: What is the reason you read manga instead of comics?

[White Ren !YLuFFdRcFQ No.]

>>2089393
Since you brought it up, Nanoha is better written.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2089401
Sick burn, dude.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2089262
I guess the most important thing for an author to do would be to look critically at the potential in VNs as a medium. After all, great writers and directors of films dissect the medium completely and know the initial tools at their disposal, manipulate them and innovate where necessary.

For somebody to create a really interesting VN would require a lot of thought, effort and criticism beyond even the writing itself. VNs would have to be dissected, first of all, and their full potential explored before somebody could use them as a means to something "literary".

I mean, even if a truly magnificent piece of writing were used in a VN it would be meaningless and sloppy if it didn't take into account the nature of the medium and exploit completely the tools available for somebody writing a VN.

Unless people in /jp/ or anywhere would be prepared to dissect VNs at an almost academic standard, something I really don't think anyone here or elsewhere has the motivation for, the first step toward a truly great VN by ANY author won't be taken.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2089393
1/10

[Anonymous No.]

>>2089401
Nanoha, better than Harry Potter?

Eh, I dunno. I just think it's bullshit that Harry Potter is so riddled with clichés and no one calls Rowling on it, but Twilight has a few flaws and everyone rips it apart over them.

Edward is a little one-dimensional, sure. But he's the romantic interest, and Twilight is written in first-person. Of COURSE he seems "perfect." It's a teenage girl writing about how awesome her boyfriend is.

Bella is a better protagonist than Harry.

Any questions?

[Anonymous No.]

>>2089393
>The only reason people bash on Twilight is because it's a romance
No, it's because it claims to be about vampires that have no actual semblance to classic vampires except that they suck.

[White Ren !YLuFFdRcFQ No.]

>>2089423
>Nanoha, better than Harry Potter?

Shit, yes. A's is for awesome.

[Anonymous No.]

R.L. Stein could write a very loooong VN every 6 months.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2089424
>except that they suck.
in completely different contexts, of course

[Anonymous No.]

>>2089424
>>No, it's because it claims to be about vampires that have no actual semblance to classic vampires except that they suck.

lol type moon

[Anonymous No.]

>>2089433
Just modify the Choose Your Own Goosebumps stories a bit, add music/background/graphics, ta-da.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2089381
You are an idiot.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2089424
>No, it's because it claims to be about vampires that have no actual semblance to classic vampires except that they suck

So good writers should throw away all thoughts of originality and rehash classics?

I guess all the chinese writers writing volume after volume about the three kingdoms are masters then.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2089424
>except that they suck.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2089294
That still doesn't make for a well written character. It will be painfully obvious to the reader that you're just trying to compensate for the character's perfection.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2089433

[Anonymous No.]

>>2089432
Harry Potter has a much better plot than Nanoha... its not just pointless battlan and beamspammin

[Anonymous No.]

Wait wait wait...people defending TWILIGHT? HERE?

[White Ren !YLuFFdRcFQ No.]

>>2089472
>Harry Potter has a much better plot than Nanoha

[Anonymous No.]

>>2089480
<-

[Anonymous No.]

More magic, more rape, less gnomes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2089422
>tl;dr
>something I really don't think anyone here or elsewhere has the motivation for

looks like youve got some time on your hands, buddy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2089482
O well I guess, mastery of literary elements, character development and complex plot automatically means poor writing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2089480
I'm just saying it's better than Harry Potter, that's all.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2089452
You'd have a point if Twilight actually added anything original to what defines a vampire.
Instead, Meyers took away from that definition- all a vampire is is a semi-immortal being that sparkles in the day.
How is that a vampire?
Tsukihime had an interesting take with splitting vampires into Dead Apostles and True Ancestors.
Resident Evil had an interesting take with zombies with the T-Virus.
Karin had an interesting take by giving individual vampires an "affinity" for the blood of certain character traits. Hell, that would actually work better in a "romance story with vampires."

[Anonymous No.]

>>2089518 all a vampire is is a semi-immortal being that sparkles in the day. How is that a vampire?
They also drink blood, which, you know, is kinda the most important part.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2089507
>Harry Potter
>mastery of literary elements
>complex plot

[Anonymous No.]

One of Harry Potters biggest aspects is that the series grew up with the audience. If you were outside this target audience, it loses its affect.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2089285
What about Emily Dickinson? Granted, as a poet she didn't really deal in characters, but a major writer and a total basement dweller all the same.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2089512
How so? I have only read one book but all the passages were horribly paced, with piss poor plot. While sparkling vampires are pretty original most of her novel was not, it was just a stereotypical bad boy meets good girl nonsense. I do admit though that I found Edward to be incredibly charming as he always manages to make lines that would normally sound extremely corny and turn them into something cool and romantic. But one good character does not redeem an entire book, I have read a lot and Meyers work is mediocre and definitely should not be compared on the same level to Rowling.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2089530 the series grew up with the audience
Not really. It just added more death and mild swearing.

[White Ren !YLuFFdRcFQ No.]

>>2089539
Her work is also... odd, sometimes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2089518
>Instead, Meyers took away from that definition- all a vampire is is a semi-immortal being that sparkles in the day.
>How is that a vampire?
vampires = drinks blood you fucktard, the vampires in twilight fit the description perfectly

[Anonymous No.]

>>2089550
>It just added more death and mild swearing.
Just like the audience as it moved on to middle and high school.

[Anonymous No.]

>Vampire = drink blood
The closest we can get to the etymology of vampire is that it comes from either 'bat' or 'to fly.'

[Anonymous No.]

Harry Potter = Tsukihime

[Anonymous No.]

>>2089591
Are you from tvtropes.org? *vomits*

[Anonymous No.]

>>2089529
How is Rowling not a master?

Perfectly timed and executed Deus ex machinas, allegories to modern times, usage of checklov's gun, irony, foreshadowing, poetic justice, red herrings. The beauty of Rowling is that she combines mastery over writing along with her "whodunnit" mystery style all to build up to an intense climax that makes readers go "HOLY FUCKING SHIT!" and the beauty of her work is that it manages to appeal to both the layman and the more observant reader as the more observant reader will oftentimes catch the clues that she skillfully hides in every chapter to figure out the plot.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2089554
The problem with Twilight?
Forget about vampires and what they do.
Call them...Witchalocks. From the Shadowdark or whatever.

The story still sucks balls.

[Anonymous No.]

Why do people always slam Twilight with "mary sue" but Harry gets a free pass? Last I checked, Edward Cullen hasn't saved the world from a cackling "dark lord."

[Anonymous No.]

>>2089594
Never went to that site, I mostly lurk different boards on 4chan, and I can gladly say that I read every Harry Potter and enjoyed them thoroughly.

[Arcueid Brunestud !ARCIkc4cG6 No.]

>>2089583

YER A WIZARD, HARRY

[Anonymous No.]

>>2089441
Still waiting for an answer here.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2089604
Harry is hardly a Mary Sue as you see many different facets compared to Bella who never see another side other than ditsy love struck teenage girl.

[Anonymous No.]

Harry Pottflofski and the Prisoner of Auschwitz.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2089398
Still waiting for an answer here.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2089604
Just because somebody does something great, doesn't mean they are. Harry's quite the douche at times.

[White Ren !YLuFFdRcFQ No.]

>>2089609
What answer are you looking for?

[Anonymous No.]

>>2089614 Harry is hardly a Mary Sue as you see many different facets
Yeah, you see his "super cool guy" side that all the girls have a crush on, and you also see his "dark tormented tragic past my parents are deeeeeeead" side that no one can sympathize with, because you know, NO ONE ELSE knows what it feels like to lose a loved one.

Not a Mary Sue at all.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2089591
Let me tell you something:
When you have MORE than one Deus Ex Machina, aka it did NOT resolve the conflict/problems/issues created by men, then you do nothing else but constantly create messes on the plot to grasp attention, magically unblock them for shock effect and move forward the plot you blocked yourself.

Second, it's set on 'modern' times either way.

Also, it's Chekhov's gun. JUST having it, a masterpiece does not make it.

The red herrings are just obvious distraction as to 'stall' the actual plot development, while the 'true' enemy was clear from day one.
Great foreshadowing there.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2089623
Was a misquote, my apologies.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2089591
If you had said she was a master of pop fiction I would have been more inclined to agree with you. Calling her a "literary master" sounds like you're comparing her to authors like Dostoevsky, Faulkner, or Joyce. She's not even close to being in that league. Her stories are meant to be nothing more than entertainment, and they accomplish that goal pretty well. By no means are they the embodiment of literary excellency.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2089628
Very few girls have a crush on him; more people actively dislike him, thinking he thinks he's better than everyone. Expectations for him are higher than they should be, as they are with anybody who's famous for reasons not of their own doing.

Like anybody who tries to attack anything, you're overgeneralizing to make your target look worse than it actually is.

[Anonymous No.]

Pressing your member into your adoptive sister's waiting depths, you pause as the tip presses against her maidenhead. You hadn't realized she was a virgin!

If you were to continue, you would undoubtedly tear her hymen, thereby violating the First Law of Robotics. But failing to continue would inflict untold psychological damage, also violating the First Law. So you must continue. But then you would harm her, so you mustn't continue. But then you would harm her, so you must continue. But then you would harm her, so you mustn't continue. But then you would hFATAL EXCEPTION ERROR

>BAD END

[Anonymous No.]

>>2089628
Harry Potter is not a well written character, but that doesn't mean he's a Mary Sue. People throw that term around way too much.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2089627
Its a mystery/fantasy novel, having all those literary elements are essential and they improve the quality.

>red herrings are just obvious distraction as to 'stall' the actual plot development

Actually red herrings make the plot all the more delicious as oftentimes the perpetrator is the least suspected character. Red Herrings are a staple of every mystery novel as they add mystery to the mystery novel. Let me ask you a question would you read a mystery novel if you knew who the killer was and what his plan was along with the fact that you knew that he would get caught without a hassle? Would you honestly read The Sorceror's stone if Dumbledore knew that Quirrel was plotting to steal it and intercepted him in the first chapter?

[Anonymous No.]

>>2089650
That's, like, soooo deep.

Seriously, though, I don't even know what you're talking about, but just from your description of him he doesn't even seem half as deep as any given throwaway F/sn side character. Pretty fucking sad, don't you think?

[Anonymous No.]

Harry really should have died in the last one. I mean, the idea that he somehow tied his life-force or some shit to Harry and thus lived on made sense, and they should have both died to end it all. I mean, that's just the way it should have been except Rowling wanted a happy ending.

God, I hated reading that last book. I mean, I enjoyed the others. The first is just competent, satisfactory children's fiction.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2089659
His background, abilities and presentation are very close to one.
But his interactions, status among peers and the fact he needs help at times saves him from the dreaded label.
Still not a good character.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2089667
There's a difference between throwing in red herrings everywhere and just not letting the readers know who did it, you know.

[Ausnonymous No.]

Simon R Green, based on his 'Deathstalker' series. It'd be kinda like Nasu, only with less mollusks.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2089675
The obtaining the deathly hollows = mastery over death, once he had all 3 he became immortal

[Anonymous No.]

>>2089668
That's the entire point. He's not supposed to be anything special, just a regular guy with a reputation he can't live up to, and a crazy amount of luck.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2089650 more people actively dislike him, thinking he thinks he's better than everyone
Most of the people who dislike Harry are Slytherins, which everyone knows is basically Asshole House.

You're not not a mary sue just because some people dislike you. You're a mary sue when everyone you want as a friend likes you, and everyone you don't like doesn't like you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2089684
And some really good friends.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2089667
Point is, Quirel is merely a useless pawn.
When you have an obvious mastermind, guessing ALL the schemers/followers is just a waste of time.
And while you may not GUESS the actual suspect (since no fucking clues are given), the ones PRESENTED as suspects are VERY FUCKING obvious that they are not.

As a 'mystery novel', Harry Potterr excites...not.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2089683
So wait, my idea is basically right except that the deathly hallows saved him?

[Anonymous No.]

>>2089676
>red herrings everywhere

there was usually only one or two in each volume...which can hardly be considered spam.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2089692
>since no fucking clues are given

Plenty of clues were given, you just lacked the quick wit needed to recognize them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2089680
For something used twice on a Follow-up disc, on non-plot important sex scenes, it's made FUN of a lot.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2089702
What you call clues are more like 'damning evidence'.

The culprits were EITHER too obvious or out of the fucking blue.

And again, when you have a prevalent schemer, excluding a couple, their 'mystery' is far less important than what you make it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2089702
>no u stupidhead!!!
What a mature response.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2089680
Why would you want an inferior Nasu?

Also, would the Potterfags kindly take it somewhere else?

[Anonymous No.]

Harry Potter at least displays realistic relationships. I mean, Harry meets that Chinese bitch and starts to dislike her after a while even though at first he was obsessed. In Twilight, she spots the guy thinks he's awesome and they go off to awesome land together.

[Anonymous No.]

Less Potter bullshit, more scenes written in the style of famous authors like >>2089661.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2089750 In Twilight, she spots the guy thinks he's awesome and they go off to awesome land together.
They're teenagers. Sometimes that's what happens.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2089661

Brilliant

[Anonymous No.]

>>2089712
>>2089720
Harry Potter's dream of somebody wearing a turban and the seeing a flash of green light, Snape warning him to stay away, Quirrel asking around how to get past fluffy, his entire personality changing after disappearing for several years, etc,etc

[Anonymous No.]

>>2089750
>Realistic
>Oh, our personalities are completely incompatible, but I don't care, I WANT YOUR COCK.
Huh?

[Anonymous No.]

>>2089750
Then Suddenly, BEST FRIENDS LITTLE SISTER FANGIRL

[Anonymous No.]

>>2089661
Breaking a hymen may hurt, but it doesn't harm.

The rule is not to HARM humans.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2089772
You call that a clue?
I call that 'Tell me who it is without giving me his name but circumstantial evidence that can hardly apply for anyone else'

[Anonymous No.]

>>2089745

>>2088470

See "Hypothetical Lizard: The Harem Visual Novel".

If you want to imagine how Moore would do it, read that.

[White Ren !YLuFFdRcFQ No.]

>>2089782
Breaking her hymen causes physical and emotional trauma, which is the definition of harm. In matters where harm is unavoidable, one must weigh which outcome harms the least:

Do you break her hymen and cause temporary harm, or do you not break her hymen and cause long-lasting psychological harm?

[Anonymous No.]

Funny how White Ren claims that Nonoha is better than Harry Potter but has yet to produce a single argument.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2089774
That's pretty much how most relationships actually work. But, of course, you wouldn't know.

[White Ren !YLuFFdRcFQ No.]

>>2089793
I never claimed that Nonoha is better than Harry Potter. Not once.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2089787
Nevertheless they are still clues and there are many many more that I cannot remember from reading the it o so long ago.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2089799
>>2089482

[Anonymous No.]

>>2089795
Relationships only work that way for dumb people. Seeing as how many of the main characters were supposed to not be dumb, well...

[Anonymous No.]

Song of Ice and Fire visual novel adaptation

[Anonymous No.]

I'd read a visual novel by Mikhail Bulgakov.

[White Ren !YLuFFdRcFQ No.]

>>2089802
I didn't mention Nonoha anywhere in the post.

>>2089806
Yes, please.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2089803
Young people are "dumb" as far as relationships are concerned. Therefore, the relationship is realistic unlike the near perfection of Twilight.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2089803
Are you saying that two people completely different and falling in love is unrealistic?

[Anonymous No.]

>>2089814
>falling in love
This part was already unrealistic to begin with.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2089819

[Anonymous No.]

It's hot. The Arab points the knife at your chest. You-

>Draw the pistol
>Don't draw the pistol

Every end is an indifferent end.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2089085
>>2088470
Why are we talking about Potter/Twilight and not this?

[Anonymous No.]

>>2089813 the near perfection of Twilight
It's only "near perfection" because it's from HER POINT OF VIEW.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2089869
Go read
>>2089790

...imagine as harem visual novel. Also imagine the kind of barbs Moore would likely work into the conclusions of every choice, just to be a dick.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2089791
The Laws of Robotics don't really give the wiggle room to choose between varying degree of harms, save for a few really, really smart robots. Being forced to choose between varying degrees of harm is enough to break most bots, such as happened to HRB-34 in 'Liar!'.

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>>2089909

ache wood

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She went by the peaceful name of Ruth, I think, but I can’t say for certain. Perhaps the name was Edith. She had a hole between her legs, oh not the bunghole I had always imagined, but a slit, and in this I put, or rather she put, my so-called virile member, not without difficulty, and I toiled and moiled until I discharged or gave up trying or was begged by her to stop. A mug’s game in my opinion and tiring on top of that, in the long run. But I lent myself to it with a good enough grace, knowing it was love, for she had told me so. She bent over the couch, because of her rheumatism, and in I went from behind. It was the only position she could bear, because of her lumbago. It seemed all right to me, for I had seen dogs, and I was astonished when she confided that you could go about it differently. I wonder what she meant exactly. Perhaps after all she put me in her rectum. A matter of complete indifference to me, I needn’t tell you. But is it true love, in the rectum? That’s what bothers me sometimes. Have I never known true love, after all? She too was an eminently flat woman and she moved with short stiff steps, leaning on an ebony stick. Perhaps she too was a man, yet another of them. But in that case surely our testicles would have collided, while we writhed. Perhaps she held hers tight in her hand, on purpose to avoid it.

[Arcueid Brunestud !ARCIkc4cG6 No.]

>>2089806

I would orgasm and never stop if this occurred.

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>>2089935

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>>2089935

...Never thought I'd want to read a sex scene so bad it made me want to read Nasu.

brb, feeling so good I might vomit.

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>>2089935

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Archive? Four more votes.

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>>2090061
What? Unlike pic based threads, this doesn't need 4chanarchive.

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>>2090061
i dunno. a lot of twilight trollin itt. some posts are quality though.

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>>2089806

Mmm...George RR Martin H-scenes would certainly trumps Nasu in outrageous sex descriptions

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>>2090084
The easymodo archive will suffice.