/DJT/「Daily Japanese Thread」第2113番

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新ガイド https://itazuraneko.neocities.org/
旧ガイド https://djtguide.neocities.org/
前スレ >>20875194
gambarimasyou, ne?

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Just ordered a new mouse so I should be able to click on anki menus more quickly and accurately.

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>>20880856
imagine unironically spending hours trying to understand the concept of "でも" instead of just reading enough that you see all the ways its used and just understanding it by doing that
also op dont make the new thread so fast i couldnt get to an ero scene in time to nut and now i have to lurk djt instead of reading :/

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>>20880873
ugh dude it would literally take a fucking YEAR of non stop reading to absorb all those meanings. it's better to just look at this image

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>>20880873
you could just read all the points on that list and it explains it fine tho lol

why do people make it sound like learning grammar points is actually difficult and somehow can't be explained/understood through simple explanation lol

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でもわたしはゲイ

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>>20880873
if you learned nihongo you couldnt complain about how hard basic grammar is
i get what youre sayin but as for watashi i cant finish if djt isnt up

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So now that I can read hiragana 9/10 times and kata 3/10 and I know some basic vocab, I'm gonna try moving on. My plan is

>Playing Lingodeer like a game and not taking it seriously, take some notes on some interesting things
>Start replacing the mumble rap in my playlist with jap rap
>Daily Aniki practice and taking notes
>Grinding the radicals after I'm comfortable with kata
>Study Tae Kim while taking notes three times a week for several hours at a time till I'm finished
>Add nhk news web easy to my RSS feed
>Start reading yotsubato with the reading
>Eventually move on to other easy vns, lns and manga
>Move on to more advanced grammar guides?

Anything I should do differently so I don't waste my time? Also recs on japanese rappers? Some neo soul and r&b would be cool too.

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>>20880891
im not the one complaining about hard basic grammar idk wtf you're on about buddy

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>>20880877
a YEAR, oh my god. I have been studying for two so that is not really a problem. You will suck after a year no matter what. Just read like me to get the thickest japanese prowess.

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>>20880900
>a YEAR, oh my god. I have been studying for two so that is not really a problem.
to understand fucking でも? that's long as fuck. i'll take the short and easy route here.

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>>20880910
jap grammar is pretty easy. i say after 1 year of consistent reading you will have a solid grasp of all grammar not just demo. No need for any more study than a 2 hour skim of old tay tays guide. good luck studying when you could be reading.

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>>20880895
the yous in my first line refer to a hypothetical individual who is described by your first line

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>>20880892
Sounds terrible and boring. have you considered learning japanese instead?

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>>20880815
how do i fuck one of those gyaru sluts

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>>20881017
https://vndb.org/g2403

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Thoughts on Minna no Nihongo for grammar? As far as courses available to review on Memrise go it looks decently put together. I've been trying Tae Kim so far but it doesn't feel very intuitive with how many different kanji it uses for its examples in every new lesson.
https://www.memrise.com/course/95191/minna-no-nihongo-i-grammar/

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man it's getting kind of exhausting with how stupidly dense kou is pretending to be.
even more painful is that aki is clearly best girl but she just has to be his second cousin so it's sin

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>>20881066
>second cousin so it's sin
No, that's okay in most countries.

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>>20881054
It's probably not bad and will eventually get you there
That said I think it's a waste of time to spend a long time on a grammar guide and you should just get used to seeing kanji as quickly as possible anyways

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>>20881075
I'm already grinding out kanji using KanjiDamage and Memrise daily, and I've been learning with that for a few months now. I wanted to add learning grammar on top of that.

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>kanjidamage and memrise
they'll never learn

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>>20881066
>second cousin
Seems like you misread Baldr Sky already. Sorry buddy, since it's such an easy game, it seems you can't learn Japanese.

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>>20880892
surprisingly the more i planned out my future the more likely I was to give up. here's a simple plan:
learn kana
read tk
consume compelling content

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>>20881106
>はとこ
i don't know what you think you're playing at by getting me to respond with this

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>>20881094
Anki's UI is shit, it doesn't have automatic revision timing like Memrise, it only has a basic card answer format instead of Memrise's three different answer formats, and for no reason at all it also demands both my computer and phone be set to the same online time setting for me to be allowed to sync them and use them, which is a personal nuisance as my work clocks use a different time. If there are alternatives to Memrise that offer the same features I'd be happy to know about them but I've never seen Anki's appeal.

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she's so fucking cute bros...

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>>20881118
Had you been reading carefully you would have noticed that the 再従兄弟 title is a mere formality, and they aren't actually blood related at least, you can't tell they are by this point. Also, there is an Aki route on Dive2 (with even more incest than you can predict right now!) so rejoice, shounen.

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>>20881138
mm i mean i got that kou was adopted into their family after his mom died but i just kind of assumed that. why else would they bring him into their family?
that having been said i'm such a slow reader that that info may have been merely forgotten considering i'm about 55 hours deep and still not done with rain route
definitely looking forward to dive2 though.

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>>20881133
is she into femdom

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>>20880892
You forgot 10000 hours of anime

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https://my.mixtape.moe/volqqr.mp4

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>>20880892
>Anything I should do differently so I don't waste my time so I don't waste my time?

You forgot one thing to include and this is
>what do you want to do with Japanese?
Do you want to just watch some Anime, or do you want to play Japanese games, or do you want to be "fluent" in Japanese?

I just assume you want to be fluent in Japanese (which just means you want to understand everything you read/hear).


What you can do (much) better:
>LEARN RTK
I know it sounds retarded, but either you go through the suffering of RTK or you will quit Japanese anyway. Also remember how to use rtk right. First you see the meaning of the Kanji like "black", then you try to remember your story, then you should know the primitives like in this case "computer" and "flames", and only then you should know the Kanji (in this case 黒). NEVER EVER learn from Kanji to its meaning. If in doubt read Heisig's explanation. But it's important to not learn the other way, if you want to know why, just read Heisig's guide.

After you know RTK:
>playing Lingodeer
Not bad, you have to pay for it though, but it's the best learning app right now. Textbooks are still much better though, but as a "game" Lingodeer is pretty good.
>replacing rap
it doesn't hurt, so why not
>using Anki
You have to use Anki for RTK and for new words from textbooks (which are in most cases already pre made without wasting time creating cards) or any other book you read. There is no better way to learn new words.
>grinding radicals
LEARN RTK. You learn all radicals (and fake radicals) and also learn every kanji.
>study Tae Kim
I prefer other textbooks like Genki or nihongo e youkozo. And I would even advice to learn Tobira before reading Tae Kim, because Tae Kim is bitching a lot about textbooks and only if you know textbooks you can easily understand how to improve.
>add nhk news
I thinks it's much better to just use textbooks which are tailored to teach you in the most logical way (all textbooks can be downloaded for free in OP's links anyway).
>move on to vns, Ins and manga
you can always try to read vns. It's even recommended that you not only learn with Anki and textbooks but also do whatever you like between your normal learning sessions. Sure, the first years you will not understand much, but if you really invest time in learning the language you will improve reading vns and other things.
>move on to more advanced grammar
The best thing about textbooks is you learn the most important grammar in the most logical order (sure, Tae Kim will shit on MUH FAKE ORDER if you use "normal" textbooks, but learning grammar is not hard, the hardest part are Kanji anyway).

There is only one group of people who can avoid textbooks and those are people who have a teacher (or really know the language perfectly). Textbooks are mandatory if you really want to understand the language. Also even if you go the
Genki I/II
-> Integrated approach to intermediate Japanese
-> Tobira
-> authentic Japanese progressing from intermediate to advanced
way, you still have to learn after this without textbooks (because after this you know pretty much everything you have to know). After this you won't waste time anymore, because you know how the language works and you know the best and fastest way to progress on your own.

But if you think textbooks are worthless, you will come back in a few months, because you have quit Japanese. Every person who learns without textbooks (or without teacher) is doomed to quit. NO ONE can help you as good as textbooks (at least not for this cheap).

Everything you said (except Anki) is just a bonus to improve your language, but at the start you really need RTK and textbooks to tell you what Japanese even is (Japanese is a language. NEVER learn a language without guide, you will just waste your time).

If you think you can skip textbooks, you would be the first person I have seen (even on the internet) who could learn Japanese without either quitting or stuck in the "smug nihongo ga dekinai" anime girl meme world.
Even Matt is stuck in the never ever world, because he refused to use textbooks. He now blames the "pitch accent" for his failure, but if you see his "skills" you realize, that the problem is not his meme accent, it's because he has trouble with grammar and vocabulary (a consequence of using AJATT and meme+1, because you will learn bad habits without textbooks and you always try to go the easy route with AJATT and any other useless meme
bullshit). This is the way all people end without guide, where textbooks are right now the best.

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>>20881207
sounds retarded

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>>20881207
this post is cancerous and should be deleted

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>>20881207
reddit臭い

imagine doing something other than reading high tier lit.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Kt8HP1VEPU

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>>20881207
imagine spending this much time to say absolutely nothing of worth

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>>20881133
Don't forget to read Dive X after you're finished with Dive 2. I've never seen it mentioned around here, so I assume lots of people skip it.
It's an omake/fandisc that adds some short stories, along with new gameplay content that lets you control any character in the game in battles, even the last boss.
The most important story being a prequel that tells you what happened between the end of school and up to the beginning of Dive 1. How Kou became soldiers together with Rain, how they traveled around the world chasing the remnants of Drexler co. and finally ended up in the battle where the game starts.

It's perfect for sating that feeling when you're finished with the game and want more.

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>>20880892
Consume as much media as possible and don't listen to any of this >>20881207 crap

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Plenty of you "made it" without studying RTK, right? I look at vocab only and I feel just fine about kanji so far.

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>>20881244
that sounds pretty damn cool for sure gonna read
any idea if the games after this are good? ive heard awful things about baldr bringer but the mc apparently being a full-on robot entices the /m/fag in me

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>>20881269
RTK doesn't cover anything of value anyway. You will see the first 2000 Kanji and hundreds of words and remembering them will be easy as fuck. The really challenge is between approaching 3000 and approaching 4000 Kanji.

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>>20881269
Your good as long as you do not use apps, anki, rtk, textbooks, manga, and translation. just watch animes either raw or nip subbed and read real books. vns and lns are border, but i will allow them.

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>>20881207
>but learning grammar is not hard
why do people say this. my biggest problem is losing track of what's happening in medium/long sentences.

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>>20881281
after you learn 2000 kanji it's easy as fuck to remember new ones as you encounter them. don't worry you'll get there eventually I'm sure.

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>>20881289
vns are BY FAR significantly longer and often more complex than "real" books

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>>20881303
the more you read, the more you'll be able to understand them. also the best way to get into that is not to run away. i shied away from haruhi for a long time but when i finally sat down and made myself read it, it ended up being pretty comprehensible

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>>20881306
I know almost 3000 Kanji though.
蜻蛉
鸚哥
Can you read these? You bitch.

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>>20881207
>>LEARN RTK
>go through the suffering of RTK
>remember how to use rtk right
>After you know RTK
>You have to use Anki for RTK
>LEARN RTK.
>at the start you really need RTK
how much nihongo have u read

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>>20881317
first one is tonbo, never seen the second (maybe inko?) but I'm sure I'll remember it after seeing it now lol

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>>20881271
I only played the first two routes of Baldr Heart, and I just lost interest. I'm planning to play through it again soon, just because Sky is probably my favorite VN and maybe it gets better later. I didn't try Bringer yet.

But Heart was quite a disappointment. What made Sky good was the contrast between the carefree school days and the gritty, dystopian future. Without spoiling more than the first chapter or so, in Heart the protagonist is a soldier that joins a school undercover. All the girls feel like classmates from a generic moe game, since they are all fairly inexperienced or immature schoolgirls. It just doesn't have the weight of Sky, it feels like you're playing around and going on class trips.
Sure, things get serious by the end of a route and there's drama too, but nothing on the level of the constant gloom of the aftermath of Gray Christmas in Sky, for example.
The routes are much shorter too and there's far less character development.

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>>20881310
yes they are longer and may have more action happening, but they are poorly written otaku bait. The ideas they tackle are always pseudo intellectual tier and they never touch on the human condition at nearly the same level. You sound like the type of person who complains that "boring" books like catcher in the rye are taught in school and harry potter should be read instead.

There is nothing wrong with reading them, but they are not more complex than real books on any level other than superficial.

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>>20881341
VNs feel so good because of first person immersion into the story. Reading a book leaves you far more detached.

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>>20881341
wew
sweeping generalisations aboard!

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>>20881341
you're comparing the trash of medium A to the feast of medium B
read better VNs

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>Dictionary of Advanced Japanese Grammar doesn't cover all of N1
I'll never make it.

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>>20881362
grammar is like the easiest thing to learn tho. i studied all of n1 grammar a couple of weeks before the test and got an A for that section

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Is there a name for when someone pronounces a combination like しゃ as sya, or spells it out like so?

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>>20881368
romaji

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>>20881375
I know there was a specific word, and this wasn't it.

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>>20881355
>>20881354
>>20881346
I am not saying vns are bad just that they are not on the same level as true literature.

It is like comparing a local dj to daft punk, the local dj may be good but daft punk is just at a completely different level.

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>>20881382
日本式ローマ字

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>>20881384
lol your comparisons are garbage. low iq motherfucker thinks catcher in the rye and daft punk are at the height of their medium.. daft punk were decent producers 20 years ago and were never really djs

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i did anki without fucking with rtk
ask me anything

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>>20881384
Then you clearly haven't read truly well-written VNs like France Shoujo or KKK, or cannot comprehend them because of your low level of Japanese.

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>>20881394
what's your favorite color

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>>20881398
kurojin

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あたしは死にたいんじゃないです

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>>20881392
Catcher in the Rye and Harry Potter are at about the same level of sophistication, and I'm not exaggerating.

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>>20881390
this also wasn't it

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>>20881392
>>20881395
I genuenly can not wrap my brain the idea that you guys are convinced that text based video games aimed otakus with an anime art style is better than classics that have continued to be praised for decades to even centuries.

Also I never said catcher in the rye is the height of lit, it is just what anti intellectuals usually target with being boring. I liked it but my fav is prolly lolita or 痴人の愛 .

also daft punk is absolutely top tier electronic musicians.

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>>20881429
go read inganock and don't come back until you're finished

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>>20880892
Manga isn't reading

Sure is pleb central in here.

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>>20881429
Come back after studying for 30 years when you can finally comprehend the greatness of writing like this. Western trash is no match for some of the better VN writers.

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>>20881429
im not defending vns as art, im just saying your taste is garbage. daft punk is undoubtedly the harry potter of electro. you know they have just as many fans as jk rowling lol? why pretend that you have good taste in art when you just like the same popular entry level shit that everyone else does lol

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>>20881439
saved it to read 30 years later senpai

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>>20881429
>classics that have continued to be praised for decades to even centuries
oh so what you're saying is that 100 years from now when people are still discussing subahibi it'll be certified "equally legitimate" as catcher in the rye?
imagine writing a post like "ppl have liked this 1 thing for a long time" and then writing a time-based comparison relating it to a medium that hasn't even existed for more than what 30 or 40 years

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>>20881448
than what is high tier electronic?

People always shit on peoples taste but never mention what is supposedly good.

>>20881426
rye is at least well written and not in the dreaded 3rd person.

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>>20881484
there's no point in trying to educate you because you're obviously just a low iq pleb that gets baited into liking any catchy pop music. please continue to get your music from the top 100 charts and talk shit about how you have better taste than other people lol

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>>20881439
I hope, one day, at least, I will learn. This image probably wont be here for me then, though.

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>>20881439
there's nothing impressive about this. needlessly descriptive and doesn't flow well at all

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>>20881498
Reading posts like this makes me wish that i could debate this without having hear one point and filling out a captcha every time. I feel we agree on most things but this format does not support that. Also my nonthreatening good looks usually calms autists.

I used daft punk as i assumed everyone has heard them and they are universally loved. I mostly listen to japanese metal and city pop.

sorry for offending you perhaps. but I am correct and you would agree with me given the right context.

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>>20881484
You should at least educate yourself on the history of electronic music before you embarrass yourself on the internet like that. Have you even heard of people like Juan Atkins, Derrick May or Ron Hardy?

Visual novels are an extremely niche medium that has only been around for a few decades. If anything, they're much closer to genre fiction than "literary fiction": would you be surprised if posters on a sci-fi discussion board held Neal Stephenson in higher regard than Virginia Woolf? Would you try to convince them that they're actually wrong and teach them about "true literature"?

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>>20881560
Speaking of sci-fi, Asimov's works are also better than 99% of the classic meme shit.

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>>20881560
no i would embrass them, then gently kiss them on the forehead and whisper 「大丈夫」 into their ear.

I don't really like fantasy, sci fi is ok, horror is slightly above ok, but i usually like literary fiction which feature romance, and dark themes.

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>>20881560
senpai...

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>>20881133
can you read this vn and skip the rpg gameplay or is it required to move on

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>>20881538
>I am correct
Yeah, just like this guy >>20881207

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lowercase posters are somehow so much better than the pseuds & autists who post in here. thank God for jamal

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>>20881619
caps is caring and caring is dangerous

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>>20881317
蜻蛉 is on the list from Wikipedia in the top 1,000 words.

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>>20881196
>>20881247
Already done. Most of my vocab comes from anime and vidya.

>>20881207
I still don't understand what separates rtk from 2k/6k and radical decks. If I'm gonna use aniki anyways, whats supposed to make it more efficient?
>text books
I'm not opposed to text books at all, but Tae Kim is the one I see recommended everywhere and I figure if I can at least read basic sentences while I'm learning from textbooks, it'll speed up the process.

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Riddle me this, DJT: why would you go in a thread of self-described otaku, people who literally don't give a single flying fuck about mainstream media of any form, and try to convince said individuals that their clicky click video game books are inferior to classical (paper) literature? Can you not see how asinine that is?

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dekinai here
how to not give up

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basically a beginner, which textbook should i do: genki or japanese in mangaland?

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what's the difference in the context of cooking?

>焼く
>炊く
>炒める
>燃やす

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>>20882051
read something compelling

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>he doesn't know what 「きょう」means

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きょうはふらいでえ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q6NLFkGdIww

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Does ジャマール先生 live somewhere in Japan, or in Los Angeles?

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>>20882190
state your thoughts more clearly

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この車は日本語の車です

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いやホンダやろ

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ユダヤ人は悪魔で、とても怖いです

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i wanna be nihonjin

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your secrets safe with us matt

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おはようございます
今日はもっともっとがんばりましょう！

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>>20882340
アングロサクソン出て行け

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おうべいじん

あなたたちはころしすぎる

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ダメ

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>>20882224
あんた運転できないね

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Will I be able to get games with JP interfaces by switching my store region to JP?

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>>20882224
それはも車ではない

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>>20882522
あるあるすぎる

おまくに

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Why are there so many single-kanji words read with onyomi that I never see. Why do both 幸 and 幸運 exist? Is the latter just more formal?

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is there any japanese rap that doesn't suck lol

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>>20882834
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1EKTw50Uf8M

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>>20882853
なかなかいいじゃねーか

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don't even bother learning this language if you don't know anything about the culture, you fucking weebs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L343dzWizmk

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haha yea・・

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>>20882899
kemono fabric

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>>20882899
this is what motivated me to learn japanese. i hope i can become half the disciple of japan that hyde-san is.

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>tfw you just realised that you've written more than 40k kanji characters on paper already thanks to RTK
I feel a lot stronger already.

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>>20881589
you can set the game to super easy and btfo everything easily, battles are also pretty few and far between at least on the first route.

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just fuckin do a nice combo in the mecha robo battle and make the girls wet for ur abilities

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>>20882771

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>>20883092
i mean agreed but most conversations i see abt the game advocate for just running away and spamming guns
bringin a ton of shame to senseis name, its cooler to hit them into the air and then land the midair heel drop

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>>20883031
How many kanji can you read though?

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>>20883139
1007.

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>>20883131
like finishing a sick combo in melty blood u understand

i cant respect any runner

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>>20883139
what does it mean to be able to "read a kanji"? know a single reading?

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加減 is quite possibly the most frustrating word in the Japanese language.

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why

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>>20883206
Because it has too many different meanings and uses.
There's also:
いい加減

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so in other words its the most frustrating word because u dont know japanese

obligatory いい加減にしろ

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>>20883195
>>20883215
Watch more anime and it's easy

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>>20883353
i've watched 10000 hours of raw anime and i still don't get it

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>>20883351
do u not see how much he cares for his nintendo dude how could be so cruel

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>>20883437
you don't know japanese if you can't read that

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>>20883463
Can you transcribe it for me?

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>>20883328
水につけてしまってもうしわけございません。もうほどというもいっしょだった3DSとあえないかくごをしたいと思います。これから水とうのふたをちゃんと、しめるように、くじがけます。本当にもうしわけなりませんでした。

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>>20883470
here I'm too lazy to add all the random commas to it tho

水にかけてしまってもうしわけございません。もうぼくといつもいっしょにいた3DSとあえないかくごをしたいと思います。これからは、水とうのふたをちゃんとしめるよう心がけます。本当にもうしわけありませんでした。

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maybe if u guys do fusion dance with those 2 posts u might get it all right

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oh yea it was つけて I was just doing that from memory as I'm writing on my phone. lol @ くじがけ tho

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>>20883536
should be しめるように as well, I hare typing Japanese on phone keyboards for some reason I always mistype more than English

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Banger
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jDXReZXvEyo

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>>20883627
yea that one is pretty good

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First leech I ever got. Hope it doesn't become a trend. Always found adverbs more difficult to learn than other things

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>>20883664
I've gotten a ton of leeches. Doesn't really matter. I keep reading and eventually I remember them.

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>>20883664
I find it helps if you learn the kanji too 咄嗟に

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bangerzか・・

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8_BB1TNCpHw

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>>20883742

>>>/v/452076713

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>>20883757
Bait.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20883755
i mean u can try to read whenever but its not really gonna start workin out till uve unlocked the ani 10k w. eng subs achievement

[Anonymous No.]

>>20883844
then it takes like 5 years to learn katakana

[Anonymous No.]

>>20883911
>Month 7 and I still don't read

[Anonymous No.]

>>20883911
katakana is a noob trap don't worry, you can look it up on an as you go basis

[Anonymous No.]

>>20883926
doesn't this prove that anki is superior to reading

[Anonymous No.]

>>20883961
ヱ is just エ with an extra stroke. bam.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20883964
everyone knows it is. some people are just lying to themselves so they have an excuse not to do something that might not be enjoyable

[Anonymous No.]

*memorizes which dick bulge belongs to which anime character by putting them all in anki*

[Anonymous No.]

>>20883964
no it proves that anon is a brainlet, give me a break

[Anonymous No.]

>>20884000
Don't ignore the に. It's not "face is coming out" but it "goes out to your face". In other words, I can see it on your face (what you're thinking, etc).

[Anonymous No.]

>>20884034
Alright this is legitimately scaring me enough to reread some grammar guides because I've been reading for a few months now and I guess reading is not properly enforcing the basics.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20884048
>>20884033
stop posting dekinai shill

[Anonymous No.]

i had a dream someone in this thread told me to post a vocaroo of me saying the current time in japan and I said the current time in my time zone stuttering and got told i dont know nihongo

[Anonymous No.]

>>20884076
big mistake

[Anonymous No.]

>>20884046
Admittedly I took a 2-3 month break in the middle but other than, been reading every day.

[Anonymous No.]

I will be using the anki core 6k deck for vocab review, hopefully I'll finish this within 2-3 months at about 50-70 new words daily. Since this deck has a lot of vocab (and thus a lot of kanji), I'll most likely be able to recognize kanji vocab and read, right? Many people say they could start reading light novels (with some difficulty) around the 2k mark and fairly comfortably / enjoyably after finishing the 6k deck.

[Anonymous No.]

かけろおおおおおお !!!!!!!!!

[Anonymous No.]

>>20884355
taekim has better explanations and example sentences but its literally worthless past N4, maybe some of the early N3 stuff.
Imabi extend all the way to N1

Honestly though, they are both free just use both lmao. i usually check all the sources i can find when learning a new grammar point

[Anonymous No.]

>>20884348
Seriously, what is it? This nigga >>20881207 mentions it (meme+1), and I've seen it in the guide.

[Anonymous No.]

guys i've been reading every day for three years and i still don't know kana i don't think reading works

[Anonymous No.]

>>20884418

[Anonymous No.]

>>20884384
based

[Anonymous No.]

>>20884540
matts a dumb kisama sonofabitch that hates all otaku media and thus shouldnt be trusted as a path to otaku media
>people only hate XD I'M BUILDING LE WALL tard ironically
oof

[Anonymous No.]

>>20884545
3/4 responses said he's good and you ask "which is it?" fuck off you stupid fucking shitposter.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20884534
I see, you're really not recommending it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20884545
theres no conflict theres just retards who say whatever choose whatever u want to believe its what most ppl do anyway

https://vocaroo.com/i/s0RYPh6WwowD

https://streamable.com/l6h0h
https://streamable.com/f43ix
https://streamable.com/qemt9
the muramasa vid lmao
https://streamable.com/yr6fm

[Anonymous No.]

>>20884617
And what's wrong with that?

[Anonymous No.]

>still no deathpoint addon

[Anonymous No.]

>>20884651
It's shit nihongo without keigo.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20884686
I did, not being polite enough isn't the same as being bad at japanese.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20884664
やっていられない

[Anonymous No.]

>>20884715
an impolite japanese guy knows what he's doing. Matt was just trying to show off and didn't even realise he was making a social faux pas

[Anonymous No.]

>>20884715
incapable of doing it =/= capable of doing it but not doing it.

[Anonymous No.]

I once said そっちこそ instead of 君も to a native japanese and he's said it can be perceived as an insult by Japanese people.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20884777
he just lacks self awareness, which is common for people with gigantic egos, he's clearly not actually autistic

[Anonymous No.]

>>20884760
you're not tired of your retarded as fuck argument that matt must not know how to be polite because he wasn't polite or that his not being polite means he doesn't know japanese?

[Anonymous No.]

how many hours have you guys wasted talking about matt in this thread instead of learning japanese or doing literally anything else

[Anonymous No.]

>>20884813
i'm just checking this thread during breaks in my reading
i can't learn japanese 12 hours a day

[Anonymous No.]

u can just give me the money and leave and i wont do anything for u hows that sound

[Anonymous No.]

>>20884848
big yikes

[Anonymous No.]

>>20884868
>after dolly betrayed me itd be good revenge
what did he mean by this

[Anonymous No.]

only problem is i dont know that i could top this or even complete the video without constantly jacking off

https://streamable.com/nb6zm

[Anonymous No.]

>>20884903
>>20884849
>>20884868
What do you think Cure Dolly's speech impediment is?

I once had a friend who had a little brother who was born without a roof of the mouth.
They sewed it together afterwards. He sounded the same way. This condition is not that rare, I've seen several children with it

[Anonymous No.]

i dont think they have 1 honestly

i think its a combo of doing some kind of voice + post processing

[Anonymous No.]

俺の出立ての糞を食べさせてあげるぞ

[Anonymous No.]

how much does the MDF get paied per post?

[Anonymous No.]

A bit tired of doing anki every day. I have limited time to study japanese (like 4 hours) and anki takes like 3 hours. The remaining hour is for playing videogames. I feel it has been really effective but I yearn for the day when I would only need 30 mins or 1 hour of anki and 3 hours of immersion. Thankfully on April 30 I end doing new cards, so I see the light

[Anonymous No.]

>>20885168
あー、なんと素晴らしい臭い！ありがとういただきます！

[Anonymous No.]

>>20885205
ありがたくいただきますでしょー

[Anonymous No.]

>>20885199
you'll never be done doing new cards

[Anonymous No.]

>>20885199
that's so autistic dude god bless your immortal soul

[Anonymous No.]

Gonna shove those Genki books up my bum after realizing they aren't half as good as I thought

[Anonymous No.]

>>20885199
this is a reddit post right
how the fuck does your anki take three hours

[Anonymous No.]

rtk is pretty good

[Anonymous No.]

>>20885220
You are right, did not account for that.
>>20885240
Vocabulary, grammar and kanji reviews take like 1 hour. Then from 45 minutes to 1 hour doing new grammar with the DOJG deck. After that like 30 to 40 minutes of new vocabulary cards and finally 20 to 30 minutes for new kanji (currently learning the RTK 3)

[Anonymous No.]

minna genki ? lol

[Anonymous No.]

>>20885280
that's a big yikes from me but good luck son

[Anonymous No.]

aiyoo

[Anonymous No.]

>>20885287
genku nai

[Anonymous No.]

>>20885287
hai, tottemo genki desu. (honto wa warui ga genki datte itta)ww

[Anonymous No.]

>>20885199
>I have limited time to study japanese (like 4 hours) and anki takes like 3 hours
i tell you nerds not to overdose and look what you do
youre irresponsible you cant be trusted with it
no more anki for you you cant handle anki
just fuckin read some eroge the fuck is your problem

[Anonymous No.]

ok bros tell me how to study japanese during my free time
i have like 3 free hours a day
i need to
do anki
rtk
get off on japanese cartoons

[Anonymous No.]

i finished my first light novel and i gotta say i don't think this semen slurping language is for me

going to try to read big boy novels instead

[Anonymous No.]

not gonna make it but gambare

[Anonymous No.]

Start with the most important and use whatever time is left for the rest. First get off to big tiddies mum porn (english subbed of course). Second watch the remainder of your 10000 hours. Thirdly read. Secret step 0 is move to japan and skip all this weeb shit and work 80 hours a week.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20885365
If you're learning Japanese to read novels, damn do I feel sorry for you. Should have gone for russian, french, or german

[Anonymous No.]

After the DOJG is there another grammar guide that goes beyond? Preferably in Japanese. What level do you reach after completing and assimilating the 3 DOJG? N3 grammar?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20885404
i already speak french and german

novels are the only thing in japanese media that i find interesting

also murakami doesn't look much harder than a light novel (probably because he's a colossal hack) so i'll start there

[Anonymous No.]

murakami is about as mainstream as it gets so if u like mainstream tripe in other languages maybe ull like him as well

[Anonymous No.]

>>20885474
hey hi there are you calling someone a hack before even reading their work cuz if so just stop before you even crack that shit open and reevaluate the way you approach media

i'm not gonna pretend his works great but it's at least interesting and fun to read

[Anonymous No.]

I found myself enjoying Japanese variety shows, and of the "trivia" genre, like マツコの知らない世界, 教えてもらう前と後, ハナタカ, and ガッテン far more than anime or real-life drama. Clearly then I'm far too normie for /jp/.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20885467
if you have all three assimilated you're easily at N1 in terms of grammar
the third one has a lot of obscure shit

[Anonymous No.]

>>20885483
its ok every1 heres a normie compared to me and i post rap vids (not so much lately) lol

[Anonymous No.]

>>20885482
i read most of his books in english and i'm not impressed

but i'd rather read murakami than more manga and lns

[Anonymous No.]

>>20885474
if you dont actually like the media dont learn the language
looking forward to you complaining that novels are shit too

[Anonymous No.]

>>20885280
>Vocabulary, grammar and kanji reviews take like 1 hour
How many cards are there for each reviews? I remember setting it so I have 70 new cards per day for an RTK deck, and I'll get up to ~300 cards to review, and that doesn't take an hour. Do you have really dense cards?

I mean, learning 70 new cards do take me ~70 minutes, but they're new, not reviews.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20885494
languages are shit

can't wait till we either develop error-free telepathy or die

[Anonymous No.]

>>20885485
Currently studying the 3rd one. These three dictionaries are a godsend. Whenever I see a pattern I already studied with DOJG I feel my nipponese is progressing bit by bit

[Anonymous No.]

>>20885506
They are quite good
Realistically there really isn't much that you can come across that's not in these books, outside of dialects maybe

[Anonymous No.]

>>20885506
How are you studying them? The anki deck for HoJG is literally just a section of them and I can feel already that I'm not gonna memorize the dictionary.

Do you just read them cover to cover?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20885495
I get like 300~ cards of vocabulary, that takes like 30 mins. The real time consumer is grammar review. I get like 25-30 cards to review and with each card I try to write a simple sentence with said grammatical term

[Anonymous No.]

About 10 months ago, I began the process of learning Japanese. It has not been a straight forward process at all, but my biggest regret was wasting the first 3 months of my studies following the advice from this site:

https://nihongoshark.com/learn-kanji/

The TL;DR of this massive article is that the author suggests NOT learning the kun'yomi or on'yomi, stroke order, or even examples containing the kanji. Instead, you learn the English meaning of each word and some clever story to remember each kanji, WITH NO OTHER STUDY AT ALL!

What a massive waste of time. I spent somewhere around 50 days doing this, and at one point, I realized I was supposed to know over a 1000 kanji. Of course, in the article, it suggests doing this before doing ANY OTHER STUDYING! So I hadnt done anything else at all. So I decided to go and peak and find some books in Japanese, and realized that I could not read, or even vaguely understand a single. Fucking. Part. Sure, I recognized a bunch, but what fucking use is that? ESPECIALLY when I figured out that combining kanji can make completely different words. So I spent an hour (or more) a day. For 50 days. Learning absolutely nothing at all.

So I got super burnt out and stuck my toes in the water every once in a while but I never got super committed to anything for fear of wasting massive amounts of time again.

A month ago, I really hopped on the train again and started looking through the Genki textbooks and the guidetojapanese to grammar guide and began learning kanji in its whole (along with Duolingo!), stroke order, usage, examples, kun'yomi, on'yomi, the whole shin dig.

Ive learnt so much more with far less studying and memorization. Lots of it just makes sense and sticks, its barely memorization at all. And Im remembering the kanji better by learning its stroke order! Which the author in that article claims is an awful way to learn! It feels so good being able to actually write the kanji I see, and knowing how to pronounce it when I see it!

I mean, is it mildly convenient that the kanji is kind of familiar to me? I guess. But I should not have been doing what that article advised alone at the very least.</wbr>

[Anonymous No.]

>>20885535
>I just hope those people who are in the beginning of learning like me and trying to figure things out DO NOT follow this article, like me.
I followed this article for my first 3 months and did not get burnt out at all, now I'm even reading novels and watching variety shows and shit. So experiences differ.

I do agree that stroke order is fucking good, though. People should learn more of that. 戈 is especially precious to me for the ability of the top horizontal line to just penetrate into the strokes of other radicals, like in 我 or 栽. Sweet stuff.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20885498
what the fuck are you doing with your life to focus on something you dont enjoy

[Anonymous No.]

>>20885535
>And Im remembering the kanji better by learning its stroke order!
whats ur fav stroke

[Anonymous No.]

>>20885467
i heard they cover all levels up to N3 and some of N2 and some of N1, but not all of N2 and N1.

but Handbook of Japanese Grammar does cover all of N5 through N1.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20885550
He can't reply to you, he doesn't do languages. But hey maybe he develops "error-free telepathy", did you feel something in your head?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20885516
I study 3 entries each day, with each entry I try to write a simple sentence with said grammatical pattern. Do the same with the grammar review, this is time consuming but I feel that I am assimilating the explanations and uses of each term. I am the guy that takes 3 hours each day doing anki (primarily thanks to grammar study). I have been doing the DOJG religiously since September last year progressing bit by bit and feel it has paid off.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20885557
Time to memorize the handbook! I mean, it's just a 'hand'book, how thick can it be?

but seriously is there a size limit to what can be called a 'handbook'? Some handbooks are massive.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20885483
What if I told you it's the exact opposite?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20885583
they should put their time into finding something they care about at all instead of grinding something they are actively shitting on

[Anonymous No.]

>>20885568
ah, so you make a card on anki on a grammar item from DoJG, and you press 'good' if you can make 1 simple sentence for them? How do you know if your sentence is accurate? Do you keep the sentence to its barest essentials?

Like, say, ぜひ. What kind of simple sentence would you make with that? ぜひ来てください?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20885602
OK but what the people i described who like japanese media but don't find it compelling enough for it to maintain their interest and they have to keep going using willpower and have nothing else in life they care about.

[Anonymous No.]

Is there a deck that sorts Core 2k by RTK order?

[Anonymous No.]

that would be a dumb order

[Anonymous No.]

>>20885587
I took a quick look at the catalog and there's no thread on マツコ・デラックス, who is clearly the hottest woman of all of Japan. So clearly then /jp/ is too normie for me?

i guess there are threads on Downtown sometimes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20885609
the answer is still find something else in life they care about
if theyre in that situation they might need professional help though

[Anonymous No.]

>>20885593
What I mean is that I refer to HoJG more than DoJG for the past year, so I wonder what it'll take to learn them. The anki deck on cornucopia is certainly not it, since each card just have the corresponding page(s) of the book on the back.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20885625
most people i know go their whole lives just being mediocre at everything and working a shit job. pretending we should all enjoy the grind in anything we do is nonsense.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20885606
Exactly, I really short sentence that can be used with the grammar point. I check the answer with the formation and explanation of each entry, of course, because I am a studying by myself there is no one to correct me, so I am not 100% sure that what I did is correct

[Anonymous No.]

>>20885630
I assume if you consume enough media, your errors will correct themselves over time.

More of hope than assumption, but hey, what can you do. There's a website, Ling-8 or something, where you can post your written sentences and have them be corrected by native speakers, but I heard they closed new registrations. Also you have to correct other people's sentences (in your native language) in exchange

[Anonymous No.]

>>20885629
doesnt mean you have to follow hobbies you hate too

[Anonymous No.]

>>20885630
Can you give me an example of the sentences you've made and its grammar point from recently?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20885647
i'd rather not enjoy my time grinding something that will lead me to eventually enjoying something than enjoying what i can currently enjoy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20885587
You're telling me a guy who loves shows aimed at more general audience more than shows aimed at otaku and nerds is not the normie in a community of nerds?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20885651
Commendable, most people just go with drugs and that's the end of that.

[Anonymous No.]

when you realize halfway through learning japanese you don't really like japanese shit that much but you've already wasted half of your youth learning it so you can't stop

[Anonymous No.]

>>20885651
what evidence do you have that you will eventually enjoy it
im not sayin if you get frustrated you have to quit it immediately but its valuable to ask yourself if what youre working towards is something you actually care about or not
personally ill feel negative about hobbies for a few days but i start enjoyin the journey again
if you dont get that i think it might be misleadin yourself to claim youll enjoy it when you get there
like this guy >>20885664

[Anonymous No.]

>>20885648
今更、取引の条件を変更するわけがない

An example I did today for 今更 entry

[Anonymous No.]

waah kanjitte muzukashiimondanee

[Anonymous No.]

>>20885678
Also, I try to use the vocabulary from that day's review, feel like killing two birds with one stone.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20885672
>what evidence do you have that you will eventually enjoy it
i like some japanese media and when i hear something was mistranslated and i didn't get the original intended meaning it makes me mad. but that's about it.
>its valuable to ask yourself if what youre working towards is something you actually care about or not
i completely agree with this and there are some infamous individuals who learned japanese and ended up regretting it. i just don't agree with the people who say "the process frustrates the fuck out of you? this ain't for you."

the one aspect of learning i do like is that i look back at material from a few months ago and realize i can understand it much better. but it's pretty much always a pain to move forward.

[Anonymous No.]

>can read easy-ish shit
>can listen to everyday conversation
>can write (kanji by hand even. around 800)
>can't speak at all
Why did nobody warn me about this? It's like I forget all the grammar I know instantly when speaking. Even when I try to talk by myself
What do?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20885678
>取引
Wouldn't even be the first thing that come to my head. Are you this business-minded all the time?

[Anonymous No.]

when u realize halfway thru learning japanese that japanese shit really owns and youre already halfway to finally enjoying shit for kids by the time ur in ur late 20s so u cant stop

[Anonymous No.]

i wasted my time doing rtk shit
my bro aniki is way useful

[Anonymous No.]

>>20885686
蒲魚?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20885695
These threads really frown on production, so of course you'll struggle with speaking.

For now, either find another Japanese speaker to speak to, or just keep on consuming more and more speeches until your brain starts forming the 'correct' way to sentence thoughts by mouth.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20885695
accept u dont actually know japanese at all even a little

[Anonymous No.]

>>20885697
Not really, got it from my vocabulary review today, I tend to use whatever I review that day. I feel that it reinforces the vocabulary in my mind.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20885695
Have autistic mental conversations with imaginary Japanese people.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20885724
accept ur weaknesses and failures and learn from them

[Anonymous No.]

>>20885728
I actually do this usually with cute girls.

[Anonymous No.]

https://animelon.com/video/5b518dd233107581e4f65a43
if anyone is looking for the most basic anime ever, this is essentially yotsuba in anime form

[Anonymous No.]

I will never be able to read Japanese names. Especially, name kanji.

Might as well give up now. Just don't read anything that don't provide the furigana for names.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20885740
Same here, you'll be a pro at Japanese in no time.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20885695
it's because you can only read "easy-ish shit" and can only listen to everyday conversation.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20885695
watch this vid posthaste

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-0lXLfIJ9dE

[Anonymous No.]

>>20885744
i dont get the unko jokes

[Anonymous No.]

>>20885695
>I never practice production and I'm shit at production, what gives??

[Anonymous No.]

>>20885695
youll always have much higher comprehension than production cause it takes way higher familiarity with somethin for it to come to you on its own than to remember what it means when you see or hear it
read and listen more

[Anonymous No.]

>>20885755
me neither, is kids talking about shit and constipation standard humor in japan?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20885760
If he followed DJT then the advice he'd have followed is >>20885765, which is:
>read and listen more
so no wonder he hadn't done production training. It's 100% input, all the time.

Krashen's influence?

[Anonymous No.]

you do have to practice production but at the same time your passive vocab isn't going to be the same as your active vocab so you have to be able to understand material beyond everyday conversation to be able to produce everyday conversation. that is, if you don't want to practice production yet.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20885769
standard kids humor, which also works for some adults

what's kids humor like where you live?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20885771
The point is that it should be very obvious that the outcome of not including production practice in your learning process is an inability to speak.

[Anonymous No.]

If I grew up reading badly translated LNs and then developed my Japanese reading badly-written LNs, is there hope for me to attain a better sense of literature once I reached that level of fluency?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20885776
I have no idea, the only content with kids in it that I consume is japanese and i have no contact with them irl

[Anonymous No.]

>>20885786
Do you remember what you find funny when you're under 10?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20885771
i aint sayin you should never produce if you want to be able to converse
but if your comprehension is low tier and you cant remember basic grammar the solution to that isnt
>production training
whatever that is
dont try to force it when you dont know nihongo

[Anonymous No.]

>>20885788
no, that was quite a while ago for me unlike most people in this thread

[Anonymous No.]

>>20885776
also why does the blue girl like to step on that dude?i wish that was me

[Anonymous No.]

imagine not lmaoing at poop and farts constantly while being a visitor and or poster in these threads lmfao

[Anonymous No.]

>>20885798
poop humor is ancient, even? I believe one of the oldest jokes is "here is a wonder: a wife who, when sitting on his husband's lap, does not fart"

look at these modern humoids trying to pretend they're better

[Anonymous No.]

良い
長い

[Anonymous No.]

Did anyone here mine words from the Atelier Arland games? I played them in English but want to cram as much Atelier vocab as I can before Lulua comes out in Japan in a month.

[Anonymous No.]

is this boogipop show worth watching? first episode was kinda shite

[Anonymous No.]

>>20885816
>鳥
>島
you tryin to sell rtk or what

[Anonymous No.]

>>20885821
no absolutely not and its arguable that the lns werent worth reading then and they arent worth reading now

[Anonymous No.]

>>20885821
op and ed are the best part

[Anonymous No.]

>>20885745
have you ever considered... practicing it?
get a list with the most common japanese names and go anki-droning how to read them

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>reading manga
>not reading lyrics to your favorite japanese hits

[Anonymous No.]

>not using japanese subbed anime as your primary input

[Anonymous No.]

>>20885816
夫
末
末
木
矢
失
朱

enjoy japanese

[Anonymous No.]

>>20885841
>>20885849
Please do not abuse the quoting function.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20885838
宇江

[Anonymous No.]

>>20885854
oops, mixed up too
夫
末
未
木
矢
失
朱

[Anonymous No.]

>>20885838
dang im not even smart enough to read manga

[Anonymous No.]

>>20885859
Correct but make it a single kanji.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20885838
i'm going with 花

[Anonymous No.]

>>20885867
damn that's clever

[Anonymous No.]

>>20885867
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IRsPheErBj8

[Anonymous No.]

>>20885867
Where is けこ you cheating cunt

[Anonymous No.]

https://my.mixtape.moe/vwlkzi.mp4

[Anonymous No.]

>>20885889
It's a mystery

[Anonymous No.]

>>20885816
>>20885824
>>20885854
>>20885860
The one that always fucks me up is:
土 Land
士 Samurai

[Anonymous No.]

どういうことなの or どゆことなの
and can we omit なの and still have the same meaning?

[Anonymous No.]

the one that always fucks me up is
は wa
が ga

whats the fuckin difference ??

[Anonymous No.]

>>20885897
Haha, didn't even read that manga.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20885902
前者
はい

[Anonymous No.]

>>20885902
u can do whatever u want dude

[Anonymous No.]

已己巳己巴

[Anonymous No.]

>>20885798
The best Japanese humor is puns, and the greatest kind is poop puns.

[Anonymous No.]

I
l
Holy fucking shit. They're exactly the same. What's the goddamn difference? Fuck this language.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20885867
>愛上
Hey, that's the name of that one H-artist, the one where it's mostly fat fucks hypnotizing thicc girls

[Anonymous No.]

>>20885922
Is there actually a difference? Maybe if we learned the stroke order?

[Anonymous No.]

愛上男

[Anonymous No.]

>>20885922
you forgot
1
|

[Anonymous No.]

>>20885904
one make train go choo choo

[Anonymous No.]

>>20885933
Shit, there's like only one small stroke of a difference! How the fuck do people speak this?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20885922
based false equivalence poster

[Anonymous No.]

>>20885934
the other make train go poo poo

[Anonymous No.]

>>20885942
You can tell the difference if you slow down and work at it, but then you'll forgot which one has the thicker highlight and then all your effort will have gone to waste, the text is now entirely illegible and incomprehensible. The language is now forever out of your grasp.

[Anonymous No.]

i can see its bangerz time again this one is especially important for djt

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJipcw1lSdg

[Anonymous No.]

>>20885953
I appreciate the effort but you are being a bit too on the nose with this one. A bit of subtlety makes shitposting more fun.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20885960
>subtlety
what the fuck is that capital i doing there

[Anonymous No.]

>not immersing more so the words stick

[Anonymous No.]

>>20885961
is your goal to be good at anki or to learn fucking japanese? if you know the answer to this question you can answer your own pretty easily

[Anonymous No.]

>>20885961
What are you even doing man. Are you the DoJG shitposter?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20885942
That may work for this font but what about others?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20885961
You never lose the word, you just lose the ability to recall it. Your brain is more powerful than you give itcredit and it's decided you shouldn't learn japanese. Better luck next obstacle in life.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20885971
No my mature cards in the DoJG deck are OK and will be more than OK when I finish drilling them with a maximum interval of 2 weeks for a few more months after which point I might delete the deck and rely on reading+occasional look ups.

[Anonymous No.]

If a gril doesn't wear 布パンツ she's probably not worth your consideration.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20885967
Why are so many Japanese teachers on youtube absolute cuties? It's unfair!

[Anonymous No.]

tomorrow is the day i clear my fuckin review backlog guys.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20885982
couldnt agree more

[Anonymous No.]

>>20885987
Or you can just see they have different hex values lmao

[Anonymous No.]

ah, is it time for showing off your anki graphs?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20885971
how do i getg these stats?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20885971
haha, my deck only looks good when it's across the deck life.

i'm shit at anki, I guess better start reading.

[Anonymous No.]

Heres the few decks I got going on this account. I wish I could graph everything together it would be pretty big.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20885961
Ah, now it looks better.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20885961

[Anonymous No.]

>>20886012
I don't get it, write it in Japanese

[Anonymous No.]

>>20886006
dude wtf is this shit, i have 1 deck and can barely force myself to do 15 minutes a day. what is it with autists itt

[Anonymous No.]

>>20886004
My mature rate is really just proportional to the amount of new cards that I do.
And do these flashcards >>20885890

[Anonymous No.]

>>20886015
They feel good when doing it. It feels like measurable achievement, and thus is a concrete feeling.

Idle games work the same way. Humans like numbers going up. Like so:
1
2
3
4
17
33
109

[Anonymous No.]

>>20885997
Yeah, how about this?
I started this deck in 2009. Ever since then, I've been stuck in endless cycles of 2 weeks of studying, 6+ months of burnout.
I probably started studying at least 2 years before starting this mining deck, so that's 12 years of Japanese and I still dekinai. It took me 1.5 years to get through RTK.

I'm at about 10k words mined, I can read not too hard VNs but I rely on text hookers because I still need the dictionary a lot.

[Anonymous No.]

for me, it's Roundtable Feat. Nino

[Anonymous No.]

>>20886006
You can, but instead you should just delete all that garbage and start from scratch.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20886014

[Anonymous No.]

>>20886024
The important thing is that you keep on going.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20886029
I'm in too deep bro.. 6 months, theres no turning back for me.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20886030
「Flashtards」って何?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20886024
Is burnout for you just not doing anki or not doing any Japanese at all?

[Anonymous No.]

how am i doing panseichita

[Anonymous No.]

>>20885967
>>20885982
P-post more cute japanese teachers

please

[Anonymous No.]

>>20886037
sorry ive moved on from that one

>>20886024

[Anonymous No.]

>>20886043

[Anonymous No.]

>>20886041
Mostly no Japanese at all.
In the last 3-4 years I followed a pattern of reading through 1 or 2 VNs in about 3 weeks, then wasting my time on video games for half a year.
Even if it's something I would usually like, eventually I just get bored of reading and start playing vidya.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20886050
This makes me very not 嬉しい. You know what you gotta する

[Anonymous No.]

>>20886050
you're basically in maintenance mode you need to go hard for a few years then maintain it

[Anonymous No.]

>>20886042
A journey always begins with a first step.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20886065
are you ready to restart your 10000 hour journey with eng subbed anime yet

[Anonymous No.]

Anyone got an epub or azw3 of Norwegian Wood?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20886068
I'll probably need that eventually anyway, since my listening is crap. Only practice I ever did was reading VNs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20886075
clearly the lord is with u to have brought u to me on this day

watch anime with eng subs ON and forget about learning japanese (but still listen to it just not too hard let it be like water)

i wnat u to watch 2000 hours in the next 6 months and come back in for a checkup

and absolutely NO flash tARding

[Anonymous No.]

>>20886070
It's like 2 minutes long, dude, just download a Youtube lyrics video.

[Anonymous No.]

This thread should be a cautionary tale to everyone about not falling for the Anki retard trap of channeling every single thing you do for your language learning through Anki.

It's a fucking tool that's nice for a few cases, but people have shown time and again that the language becomes secondary to the true Anki drone. The thing they really care about is pushing those Anki numbers and salivating over their stats screens.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20886094
My anki stats have gone to shit. >>20885961 is mine, and my other four decks are of similar situation. However, I am also >>20885483, and man I've been loving it so far. Useless trivia I can't probably ever use, like the fact that consumption tax will go up to 10% from 8% starting in October, although it doesn't apply to food items, but it does apply to take aways.

So I guess I'll just have to be a variety otaku.

[Anonymous No.]

I can now read my favorite mango thanks to Aniki.
Aniki is truly a blessing for us beginners.
I'm forgetting how to Eigo though. Heehe.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20886087
are u ready to rake in the patreon bux
ar flash cards

[Anonymous No.]

>>20886093
Stop mackin on my boy, fart breath

[Anonymous No.]

ive finally figured out what this anime was about thanks to epic flashtard guy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-xUdGzLx2jA#t=6

[Anonymous No.]

>>20886106
sounds like you dont need anki anyway just delete it and enjoy the nihongains

[Anonymous No.]

そのあと １回か２回 リュウグウに 下りて、来年１２月に 地球に 帰る予定です。

Does １回か２回 mean one or two times?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20886120
no it means 3 or 10 times

[Anonymous No.]

>>20886120
yes

[Anonymous No.]

>>20886120
yes
they're gonna land on the ryuuguu asteroid or we the fuck it is a couple times then bounce back to earth

[Anonymous No.]

>>20886120
Yes. You can usually find it in most dictionaries if you change the number to a kanji.
一回

[Anonymous No.]

>>20886125
I appreciate that. Thank you.

>>20886123
I still could extrapolate what I needed from you as well. Thank you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20886112
kacho o~ji looks sick but the ed is prob oversellin it

[Anonymous No.]

>>20886120
honestly im disappointed this wasnt something ero i was hoping it was at the start

[Anonymous No.]

>>20886127
Thank you.
>>20886130
I appreciate that. Still new to this.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20886135
im pretty sure 90% of the money that went into production went in2 that op (its not the ed)

[Anonymous No.]

>>20886146
rewatched and saw it said op what the fUCK is the uploaders problem
sounds unsurprising

[Anonymous No.]

>>20886087
>i wnat u to watch 2000 hours in the next 6 months
That's like 11 hours per day.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20885628
HoJG is a completely unrelated, much worse book than HJGP. Don't call HJGP HoJP.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20886175
HoJG*

[Anonymous No.]

>>20886175
wtf r u on about lol

[Anonymous No.]

>>20886186
https://www.amazon.com/Handbook-Japanese-Grammar-Language-Library/dp/0804819408
https://www.amazon.com/Handbook-Japanese-Patterns-Teachers-Learners/dp/4874246788

[Anonymous No.]

>>20886174
after 10 years of flashtarding theres no pussyfootin about here if u cant watch anime for 11 hours a day ur dream will definitely die

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=45Ekd6KKXpg#t=16

[Anonymous No.]

えいごって

なに？

[Anonymous No.]

>>20886174
remember ur also undoing a decade of damage thats spreadin like weeds every minute u arent compelled by somethin ftw

[Anonymous No.]

>>20886202
I'm not that guy (thankfully), just pointing it out. 11 hours is a lot, I didn't watch that much even when I was a NEET because I also did other stuff like play video games, masturbate, browse the internet and sleep.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20886211
蛮夷の言語

[Anonymous No.]

i compel you to suck my cock

[Anonymous No.]

えいごって

けつえきがたでいうと

なにがた？

[Anonymous No.]

けつえき

ass juice ?

[Anonymous No.]

タイプシー

[Anonymous No.]

いやわたしはゲイなんだけど

[Anonymous No.]

>>20885867
Can someone explain this.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20886348
the readings for those kanji spell out あいうえおかきく very simple

[Anonymous No.]

>>20886348
愛上丘菊 is read as あいうえおかきく

[Anonymous No.]

>>20886366
Yeah but what does that mean. What it spells out

[Anonymous No.]

https://youtu.be/jLRAMDFkCL8
what happens when nuke and matt have a baby.

[Anonymous No.]

https://my.mixtape.moe/xkxuyh.mp4

[Anonymous No.]

>>20886379
why r they always named dave also i rage quit at the name marquee what the FUck

[Anonymous No.]

>>20886284
英語はアメリカ人の同じく全世界のクズの寄せ集めです。
だから、ABCEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ型でしょ。
勿論 D 除く。なぜなら、誕生のとき「D」が刈れる。

[Anonymous No.]

>>20886379
it's pretty fucking negligent of matt to let people go around believing that nuke's advice is of any value to anyone

[Anonymous No.]

u know i never really thought about it cuz i like nuke chan but yah he is not a good 相談役 for ur nihongo career

neither is matt but at least he parrots known good information and then smears shit all over it

[Anonymous No.]

>>20886400
https://youtu.be/jLRAMDFkCL8?t=570
matt says not to read in your first year. nuke says to read from the start. i think nuke won custody of navydave in that relationship. he's even watching anime with english subtitles. what's going on here?

[Anonymous No.]

i like nuke too i want him to succeed but he shoudl not be giving advice

[Anonymous No.]

>>20886412
>he's even watching anime with english subtitles
ﾋﾞｸﾄﾘｰ

[Anonymous No.]

i didnt read from the start so im not sure i can say nuke chan wins there

i didnt naturally move into wanting to read [properly] for a while

[Anonymous No.]

俺はこのスレのもっとも強い外人。

[Anonymous No.]

>>20886395
least funny post in this thread. give up

[Anonymous No.]

もっと教えて

[Anonymous No.]

>>20886427
honestly disappointed u even gave him a you whats ur issue

[Anonymous No.]

i know some irl who's in Matt's discord and he didn't realise nuke was so bad until I told him about it. most of the followers have not been exposed to Nuke's history

[Anonymous No.]

>>20886438
it definitely wasn't bait and he actually thought he was being clever is my issue. can't allow it

[Anonymous No.]

if i knew someone in person who was on matts discord i would kick them in the ass

[Anonymous No.]

>>20886456
your post wouldve made more sense if you had just written it in english and google translated it my man

[Anonymous No.]

>>20886456
わたしのを貸してあげるわ

[Anonymous No.]

>>20886464
ならば、これこそ自信作の冗談だ
「お前はゲイ」
しまった、真実だから全然面白くない

[Anonymous No.]

それ以上の説明は必要ない

[Anonymous No.]

damn it only gets worse you were right all along

[Anonymous No.]

It's true that no one here who asserts that anki is bad has proven they got as good as quickly as he did, let alone got to his current level.

[Anonymous No.]

thats it no more nihongo in the op it was irresponsible to do

[Anonymous No.]

what good animes are y'all watching rn?

any recs. I don't like action/adventure what so der be dat.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VySc8YNaHQA

[Anonymous No.]

>>20886488
I am pro self education but the fact that he has not really even graduated high school shows when making remarks like this.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20886488
honestly matt is like what 8+ years in now ? i was definitely better than him at that point where adult women wouldnt turn their backs and literally walk away from me after grossly misusing japanese

[Anonymous No.]

>>20886481
あははは。これは傑作だ。博物館に置いっておくべき上品だ。

[Anonymous No.]

>>20886497
hes the kind of guy who learned the scientific method in middle school and in spite of never reading anything thinks he has it all figured out

[Anonymous No.]

>>20886488
>she

[Anonymous No.]

Hey guys I just want to say that today I realized what Katamari Damacy means and my mind is fucking blown.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20886515
this brings me back

[Anonymous No.]

>>20886515
When I realized it I was super mad that they wrote damashii as damacy

[Anonymous No.]

>>20886509
そんな博物館に絶対に行きたくないわ

[Anonymous No.]

>>20886515
this was one of the games that made me think video games werent dead yet back then

[Anonymous No.]

>>20886533
I mean the only good games in the last 10 years was darksouls and bloodborne so it is pretty much dead. I laugh when someone mentions being a "gamer"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=COoJXK95JBc

[Anonymous No.]

>>20886533
>>20886542
boomers fuck off

[Anonymous No.]

>>20886521
more like 廃物館 LOL

[Anonymous No.]

>>20886555
but then that would be this thread

[Anonymous No.]

>>20886553
zoomy can't live without his micro transactions

[Anonymous No.]

>>20886491
3-gatsu no lion

[Anonymous No.]

>>20886553
sorry dude i didnt mean to offend u here have some loot boxes on the house

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lJgxbPX5Uxs#t=170

[Anonymous No.]

>>20886515
that's pretty fucking weird because I realized that yesterday too not even bs'ing

[Anonymous No.]

>>20886553
I am only 20. I just have not interacted with anybody since 16. I just hear the subhumans talking when i leave my room for uni.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hHKyGU1GUvw

[Anonymous No.]

>>20886491
watching thru urusei yatsura and it rules

[Anonymous No.]

>>20886574
i literally re picked up urusei yesterday. on ep 28. But thanks for the rec anyway

[Anonymous No.]

>>20886573
i feel bad for u cuz u didnt get to experience video games at their apex circa 1995

video games have been dead for literally ur entire life almost brings tears 2 my eyes just thinking about som1 that unfortunate in this world

[Anonymous No.]

>>20886412
navydave's gonna feel pretty stupid when his wife surpasses his level cause she actually reads the english subtitles.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20886574
are you watching it online? I don't feel like downloading a terabit

[Anonymous No.]

>>20886439
just watch any video of nuke studying and you know his level is shit. how fucking stupid are the people on matt's discord?

[Anonymous No.]

can someone please tell me how to say "im gay" in japanese?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20886601
only like 10 people watch those videos though, plus it's probably hard for noobs to tell what shit looks like

[Anonymous No.]

>>20886602
https://vocaroo.com/i/s1HBIDjIuLev

[Anonymous No.]

>>20886580
i like it a bunch but it's definitely not something i binge, just a few episodes here and there

>>20886594
got it during freeleech on ab

[Anonymous No.]

>>20886602
拙者の正直状況はホモでござる

[Anonymous No.]

>>20886602
我ゲイ也

[Anonymous No.]

>>20886602
私はマットさんの動画が大好き

[Anonymous No.]

>>20886609
this is the guy who thinks vns don't measure about the literary quality of catcher in the rye lol.. maybe it's cause he's the main character

[Anonymous No.]

theres no better feeling in the world than packing away a good bit of comprehensible compelling content my boys

[Anonymous No.]

>>20886621
what if catcher in the rye was a hentai game

uh oh just got a really good idea plz dont steal guys

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>20886621
You're right, he's a modern day weeaboo holden caulfield

[Anonymous No.]

>>20886630
well he does have a lil sis complex.

[Anonymous No.]

>って,という,
been awhile since i complained about not being able to wrap my head around this grammar most of the times i encounter it particularly when it/they appear twice in a sentence, probably in part because they often refer to a topic that has been discussed for several sentences and since my japanese ability is ass it's hard for me to keep track of who's saying what, so i wanna take the opportunity to do it again here

[Anonymous No.]

Little-known fact: SCA-Ji was once a strong contender for the Nobel Prize in Literature and Japan's own Naoki Prize, but ultimately didn't win because no one in either committee had the level of reading comprehension or education necessary to really start to approach interpreting and understanding Subahibi on anything but a surface level.

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

little known fact わたしはゲイ

[Anonymous No.]

>>20886644
literally lol'd

[Anonymous No.]

>>20886650
before i even knew what meditation was i found myself constantly questioning my biases and my beliefs and after years of having done so in an undisciplined manner i'm more miserable than ever. don't do anything resembling meditation dudes.

[Anonymous No.]

Calvin is pure as fuck desu I stan

[Anonymous No.]

wanna save carbin

[Anonymous No.]

>>20886656
meditation is more just focusing on your breath, your not supposed to think about anything.

I don't really meditate but it could not possibly be harmful. The real secret is to never assume anything and you will never be wrong just like me. Matt is no better than christians at this point because of some of the shit he says about withholding stuff.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zi9XJ-qztxQ

[Anonymous No.]

>>20886663
beautiful music. i love this music so much:)

[Anonymous No.]

does 「こんなの見るつもりないってのになぁ...」 mean "I'm not supposed to see these things" or "There's no use seeing these things"? It's a guy talking about porn ads, for context

[Anonymous No.]

>>20886611
why do you sound like the guy who made undertale

[Anonymous No.]

>>20886669
Yeah nothing beats haruhi and k-on music. I also like oreimo eds but that is more because I love oreimo so much.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0H_Tq-nqs_0

[Anonymous No.]

can u try 1 more time and have it not sound like shit

[Anonymous No.]

>>20886682
he wasn't even meaning to look at porn but the ads showed up and he wound up seeing porn anyway

[Anonymous No.]

君の子宮を食べたい

[Anonymous No.]

>>20886682
even tough I said that I don't want to look at these kind of things *sigh*

[Anonymous No.]

>>20886682
"hey yooooo i aint tryin 2 see that*

[Anonymous No.]

>>20886669
I want to feed nagato a burger

[Anonymous No.]

>>20886705
That is what I told the cops after getting one of my JET 中学生 students pregnant.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20886709
"中学生 students" is lil redundy eh bruhh

anyway shits not cool dude dont do that

[Anonymous No.]

>>20886682
>こんなの
this
>見るつもりない
not intending to
>って
This refers back to the act of [not intending to see this]
>のに
even though
>なぁ
I'm too stupid to understand this part

[Anonymous No.]

>>20886713
Sorry but already happened, I am now deported and have child support. But you can't blame me as the average iq of us are 90. JET teachers that being.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20886719
>>20886705
>>20886703
>>20886699
thanks a lot, those responses were pretty fast

[Anonymous No.]

>>20886719
behold taetards

[Anonymous No.]

especially nowadays u gotta be a fuckin idiot to be an alt in japan

[Anonymous No.]

>>20886719
"refers back to the act" is a pretty shit explanation, it's basically short for と言っていた here

[Anonymous No.]

>>20886742
not all bad, as I got to be with a beautiful nymphet 7 times.

[Anonymous No.]

hi keisatu ?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20886744
こんなの is also not really "this", it's basically このようなもの

[Anonymous No.]

Anyone immersing in some good anime tonight? I'm watching a show called ヲタクに恋は難しい. It is very cute and I'm enjoying it, even though my comprehension is somewhat lower compared to what I usually watch.

[Anonymous No.]

wotakoi is fuckin Trahs

[Anonymous No.]

>>20886488
moogy passed n1 after six months of eroge without anki or texthookers

[Anonymous No.]

What dialect is this?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20886771
didn't he say he studied japanese for like 2 or 3 years in school before he started reading recreationaly

[Anonymous No.]

otanzyoubi omedetou gozaimasita...!!

[Anonymous No.]

>>20886772
fuck ben

[Anonymous No.]

>>20886762
What is the shows you watch that is easier than wotaku?

I just finished 未確認で進行形 (7) and 青春ブタ野郎はバニーガール先輩の夢を見ない (6) and watched some yuru yuri (9) and urusei yatsuta (6).

I currently don't know what to watch now tho.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20886775
he did not study japanese for "2 or 3 years" in school. he was doing japanese classes from some time during 2008 to some time during 2009, which you can assume is two semesters, aka fucking nothing. and even if he did do it for "2 or 3 years", that would still mean getting better than matt in less time.

also, he did use a texthooker, but he had to manually look everything up because clipboard inserters, parsers, and mouseover dictionaries weren't a thing yet.

https://ask.fm/moogy0/answers/131728572884

[Anonymous No.]

>>20886782
Watch Ichigo Mashimaro for the epic win.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20886795
nah dude its part of life its like having a pet dog u loved and played with every day and then one day he got sick and it became time for u to put him down and watch it all and become a man

[Anonymous No.]

>>20886782
Kirara stuff like Hidamari, new game, a channel. I also watched umaru s2, some of macross, and flcl. The wotakoi show is very dialogue heavy so it's harder to follow at times. Just go back and watch anything you've seen already that you like.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20886787
>watched a bunch of english-subbed anime
>eventually decided to read eroge and turn the subs off
>learned japanese
hmm...maybe jamal is ftw after all...

[Anonymous No.]

>>20886787
Wow, I have the same N1 score as the moogster. Also, I agree 100% with this:
>The N1 is hyped up as some sort of holy grail of Japanese learning, but honestly, if you ask me, I think it's pretty much on par with those standardized reading comprehension tests everyone took back in middle school. If you can read eroge in Japanese without much issue and watch raw anime, I don't really see how there's any way you couldn't pass it, since it's all multiple choice and only tests vocabulary and reading comprehension.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20886787
>he was doing japanese classes from some time during 2008 to some time during 2009
2008 to 2010.
>and even if he did do it for "2 or 3 years", that would still mean getting better than matt in less time.
no it wouldn't. matt's disciple ben passed n1 after 2 years of study and matt said he considered himself fluent after 3 years.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20886800
oh so there not harder in terms of japanese, just that other shows just have less japanese and more action making you think you understand more got it.

I am at 2 years so most anime is fairly easy to me, do you read?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20886807
its not about me being ftw

i mean just read ur post

all that shits ftw

so u have to be ftw by doing ftw shit and then u can learn nihongo thats it

if ur not ftw u end up like epic flashtard guy

[Anonymous No.]

u gotta marie kondo ur fuckin whole life dude

if its not ftw stop doing it or throw it out or just get rid of it

[Anonymous No.]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I3l31plfvU4#t=38

[Anonymous No.]

basically in terms of who is best learners at japanese it goes:

vn readers > book readers > anime only > manga eaters > travelfags/textbooks

[Anonymous No.]

>>20886772
sauce?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20886810
>2008 to 2010.
read the fucking post
don't reinterpret the numbers randomly
2008 to 2009 is a range of 1 to 2, not 2 to 3
>matt said he considered himself fluent after 3 years.
lmao

[Anonymous No.]

does anyone want to 日本語相談 with me lol

[Anonymous No.]

>>20886825
is that what kondos about maybe i should read her book

[Anonymous No.]

>>20886844
>2008 to the end of 2009
2 years. sure, not 3 years. point stands.
>lmao
and remember, n1 is nowhere near fluency. by year 3 matt was dunking on all other learners while this moogy the dopey translator was patting himself on the back for passing a meaningless test.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20886815
You're being kinda rude

[Anonymous No.]

>>20886853
this is a tough fight because both of them made shitty content LOL

[Anonymous No.]

>>20886853
>>2008 to the end of 2009
>2 years.
that adds up to 1 and a half years max if you know anything about the us education system my friend
he had 6 straight months to dedicate to reading VNs starting at some point near the end of 2009, that means he was no longer in school/college, which means he was out of classes by august/september

[Anonymous No.]

>>20886859
let's be charitable and say he spent 0 months in class and learned 0 japanese prior to reading VNs, and reached n1 in 6 months. still no evidence he got as good as matt as quickly as matt at year 3.

[Anonymous No.]

btw gotta say when it comes to mathematics involving single digits u guys are truly mensa

[Anonymous No.]

>>20886866
there's no evidence that matt was any good after 3 years of ajatt either, in fact there's no proof that matt has a functioning skill level in japanese at all, moogy is a professional translator and can write coherent error-free japanese about arbitrary subject matter

[Anonymous No.]

>>20884559
>>20884617
i mean heres matts entire nihongo resume right here have at it

[Anonymous No.]

>>20886866
I mean you have no idea how good matt was at 3 years, we do know that all he has to show for 8 years is he still lives in america and had a spergy freak out when he went to japan. matt is not someone to look up to in any way.

[Anonymous No.]

oh btw when i say "professional translator" i mean "a professional translator who doesn't write error-ridden garbage like many of them do"

[Anonymous No.]

anything that had moogys name on it was still shit and *snorts* awful

[Anonymous No.]

you're not gonna say that after the next one comes out :)

[Anonymous No.]

Donald Keene's dies at 96.
https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2019/02/24/national/japanese-literature-scholar-donald-keene-dies-96

>If you were reborn, would you like to be Japanese or American?

>That’s a very difficult question. I really don’t know. I am quite happy in Japan. Perhaps I should be reborn as Japanese, as I think that would maybe be easier for me.

https://www.japantimes.co.jp/life/2009/09/06/people/donald-keene-a-life-lived-true-to-the-words/

Press F to pay respect for this honorary Nihonjin. The man is a legend.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20886870
>>20886873
>I mean you have no idea how good matt was at 3 years
there's tertiary evidence, like his disciples demonstrating proficiency in that period of time, like nick.
>matt is not someone to look up to in any way.
drop the attitude. this isn't about whether he's a good person. that is such a stupid thing to care about for a topic like this. interestingly by admitting we don't know his skill at that time, it was pointless for you to bring up moogy in the first place.

[Anonymous No.]

honestly i havent been keeping up on the western front of things lately

[Anonymous No.]

>>20886891
dang 96 is like 69 thats pretty wicked

not gonna press that key anywhere in this post but rip nonetheless

[Anonymous No.]

>>20886892
those posts were written by different people anon

[Anonymous No.]

will you brainlets quit arguing about """knowing japanese""" this threads supposed to be about learning how to read and understand VNs and shit in the first place. go to /int/ if you want to be a normalfag and worry about how youd do in japan

[Anonymous No.]

>>20886903
i know. i quoted both because they both raised the same point.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20886906
you might be autistic and i mean that in the bad way

[Anonymous No.]

>>20886892
we already know nick has negative amounts of self esteem but i can comfortably say hes better than japanese than matt from what has been provided

got anyone else u can post? its rhetorical i know u dont the walls are closing in boy

[Anonymous No.]

>>20886891
Damn I hope his tatami will always be dry in heaven

[Anonymous No.]

>>20886892
i never mentioned moogy, but at least he enjoyed reading vns. Matt says all the time that he regrets learning japanese. It is important to look at who is preaching as it gives a good vision into the type of person who practices what you want to do. I find matt and all his followers to be unbearable and seemingly dumb, so maybe only unbearable dumb people benefit from ajatt.

also I am at the point where listening to others is pointless as I have been at it for 2 years already and have made enough practice to understand where to go from here.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20886891
Had the pleasure of meeting Donald Keene at a charity do once. Was surprisingly down to earth and VERY funny!

[Anonymous No.]

>>20886916
i mean yea but if u read it wrong and end up being like this guy all the time>>20886682 then ur literally just fucked

[Anonymous No.]

>>20886938
the way you stop being that guy is by reading more

[Anonymous No.]

>>20886840
where does 3d idol only fit in

[Anonymous No.]

>>20886938
this guy is actually better at reading than everyone here because he's actually willing to try and escape from his nihongo fantasyland. the rest of you are too egotistical to admit you are just making it up as you go along.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20886952
better than anime but worse than books

[Anonymous No.]

>>20886892
>there's tertiary evidence, like his disciples
gonna have to remember that one
>>20886954
is your argument that if you dont ask stupid questions in djt then you never check yourself 笑う

[Anonymous No.]

>>20886954
yea except for everything that trips ur "radar" so to speak theres prolly a dozen more that dont and never even register

the ones who are in fantasyland are literally the ones who really only try to read and dont give a fuck about much else

[Anonymous No.]

is there anything more autistic than a bunch of dekinais talking about which eceleb is better?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20886958
were doomed then

[Anonymous No.]

>>20886891

[Anonymous No.]

>ask questions about basic sentences
>get shit on and made fun of
end me...

[Anonymous No.]

*dabs on you, brainlets*

[Anonymous No.]

>>20886979
shut your trap and go read more

[Anonymous No.]

>>20886891
F

[Anonymous No.]

>>20886971
https://vocaroo.com/i/s1Odp1kAY8bQ

[Anonymous No.]

>>20886970
are you saying that if you try to read before youre ready youll wind up permanently misunderstanding japanese? because thats fucking retarded if so

[Anonymous No.]

>>20886992
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1PgIfO92mAU&t=14

[Anonymous No.]

>>20887008
absolutely not i havent come up with a solution to this issue yet besides more input and hoping self correction happens over time

prolly because this shit is just how life works and ppl misunderstand shit in their native language all the time and never realize it till it comes up and clashes with their existing concepts

[Anonymous No.]

石炭は炭素製です
is it ok to use 製 this way?
I've been describing things and 製 is kind of a weird word because it's like a verb but not

[Anonymous No.]

did u really have to make that post right under mine gdi

[Anonymous No.]

>>20887032
～製 means more like created/manufactured from.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20887032
give up trying to write your own Japanese for at least 10 years

[Anonymous No.]

>>20887032
>it's like a verb but not
whats a verb

[Anonymous No.]

>>20887041
yea like 木製　金属製
I don't know my question I was just blogging my thinking on here for you guys. I wan't to be able to talk about science when I get there.

[Anonymous No.]

did someone say science

https://streamable.com/o3vxb

[Anonymous No.]

it's funny because he's shadowing it but he's shadowing it wrong
he gets the vowel centers and also the pitch downsteps wrong
she clearly says 理系に and he says 理系に

[Anonymous No.]

god bless nuke

[Anonymous No.]

>>20887051
Now that I'm further along that clip is even worse to watch. and "this is the sciences" lol

[Anonymous No.]

>>20887057
u cant use arrows anymore dude thank ur new 4channel overlords

[Anonymous No.]

>>20887068
what ghe fuck
ghis is vullshit

[Anonymous No.]

理系、科学、理科
they do have a lot of words for science though

[Anonymous No.]

料理 haha

[Anonymous No.]

>>20886891
「F」彼は一番強いだった

[Anonymous No.]

just saw this word while reading gegege no kitarou: 日本学術会議大怪獣対策委員会
what the FUCK is a nippongakujutsukaigidaikaijuutaisakuiinkai?

[Anonymous No.]

the fucking sciences

[Anonymous No.]

>>20887111
>強いだった

[Anonymous No.]

>>20887113
The Anti-Kaijuu Committee of the Science Council of Japan, what else?
*TL note: kaijuu means Godzilla-like monsters

[Anonymous No.]

>>20887113
that's not a word, that's several words

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

fuck man I'm usually a big nuke fan, he's really seen the errors of his ways and is really trying, but fuck, "the sciences" I had a hearty kek at that one

[Anonymous No.]

tfw my current book has 怪獣 in it but I still didn't recognize it in that word

[Anonymous No.]

>>20887153
yea same my brain says fuck it, but then I always end up being surprised I knew part of it had I tried

[Anonymous No.]

I've been seeing a lot of sasetes that mean "Let's do x". I thought sasete is limited to giving 許可 or making others do stuff.

Context : https://youtu.be/nmWj_fVu8oM?t=1126

[Anonymous No.]

召し上る - eat
お召し物 - clothes
WHY? Wouldn't it make sense for the second one to be food?

[Anonymous No.]

i got bored of rtk like 50 kanji in lmao

[Anonymous No.]

>>20887177
To add I'd except いよう here instead of いさせて

[Anonymous No.]

>>20887186
im a bit of a "word nerd" so i learned the word for etymology and now whenever there's somethin like this that pops up and i go "haha, 'why japanese people!' lmao" i just type the word into google and slap 語源 after it and read whatever explanations i can find
this is just some rando's explanation but im not invested in this right now cuz im eating some manga:
意味は“着物”ですが、聞き手の着物について使う言葉です。
“あなたのお召しになる物” という意味ですね。
「召す」は「着る」の尊敬語です。

[Anonymous No.]

>>20887196
It takes like 7 months to mature the whole deck and like 9 months i you're doing the writing too.. not worth it to learn just indepth of knowledge of just parts of words imo.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20887204
>「召す」は「着る」の尊敬語です。
That's okay, but then if 召す means to wear, why do they use it for eating?

[Anonymous No.]

あまり好きじゃないですね

[Anonymous No.]

>>20887215
this article might help idk i haven't read it but it looks like a nice big look at めしあがる
https://docoic.com/4722
it's fun to just read shit though

[Anonymous No.]

>>20887215
召す doesnt mean to wear specifically its more of a genera respectful word that refers to taking something (an object, a state, etc.), so it's used to refer to eating, drinking, wearing, riding, buying, etc.

[Anonymous No.]

Who am I?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20887249
nuke asf

[Anonymous No.]

>>20887249
someone who made the right decision twice but then fell for the anki meme a third time

[Anonymous No.]

>>20887186
おきにめす

とかつかうよ

[Anonymous No.]

>>20887255
he probably got tired of not progressing though

[Anonymous No.]

>>20887249
>average answer time
>27 seconds
Has to be nuke, welcome back to the thread

[Anonymous No.]

imagine unironically doing anki lol

[Anonymous No.]

>>20887249
too tayasui

[Anonymous No.]

愛のレシピを書こう

[Anonymous No.]

It's デカマれ

[Anonymous No.]

>>20887284
そのめのうえについてる

たくあんください

[Anonymous No.]

>>20887272
Is that bad?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20887272
I believe Tae Kim also said if in anki, you don't get the word within half a minute, then you're wasting your time? Also could have sworn there's an option that makes review of a card taking more than a minute not count.

[Anonymous No.]

nuke please man just read a chapter of a book every day or something dont mine anything dont try to drill anything just read and look up words you dont know just keep doing that and you can do all your other stuff in the meantime if you want but please im begging you just read man PLEASE

[Anonymous No.]

he's so old he's gonna die before he learns japanese anyway so whats the point lol

[Anonymous No.]

ラム being translated as Lum seems off

[Anonymous No.]

>>20887312
How can you enjoy something if you look something up every sentence or so

[Anonymous No.]

>>20887325
Should be "No Ne"

[Anonymous No.]

>>20887325
You see, her name is Lum. She's some kind of Anglo-Alien. ラム is Lum in Japanese.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20887326
Very easily actually. When you look something up just check the reading and glance the definition. You'll quickly break out of the super beginner stage. You can use an Anki deck but only do 10 mins of Anki for hour of real content.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20887326
ive been at this shit for a couple years and i still look words up all the time but the more you do it the less you have to do it

[Anonymous No.]

>>20887359
oh and also reading owns even if you have to look words up constantly. i enjoyed it even as a beginner and it's only gotten more enjoyable as time has gone on

[Anonymous No.]

>>20887325
>>20887334
Should kinda technically be Ramu
But she's directly based of Lum Agnes so we know what she was aiming for

[Anonymous No.]

>>20887386
>Ramu
please

[Anonymous No.]

it's actually lem as in lemonade (ラムネ)

[Anonymous No.]

>>20887391
ramu

[Anonymous No.]

ラムたべたい

[Anonymous No.]

>>20887400
is it ram meat or lamb meat?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20887386
She's impressive (for a chink).

[Anonymous No.]

>>20887420
だれかしらないけど

にほんじんじゃないとおもう

>>20887406
beef rumpはランプっていわれる

[Anonymous No.]

なんねんかごには、ロボットの技術がもっと発達して、人間とロボットが一緒に暮らすような社会になると言われている。
I have to convert the first part to kanji, there should be 3 of them, so I guess 「何年か」, but then what is 「ごには」?
Is it 「後には」?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20887458
見てうれしいだけど
ラムは嫁にいけないです

[Anonymous No.]

>>20887485
yes

[Anonymous No.]

妹精
I think it means qt3.14 but this word is not in my dictionary.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20887478
At least you have excellent taste.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20887542
Didn't expect to find a LL fan in here.

Who's best girl?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20887312
I've got like a whole Let's Read Japanese series on YouTube where I do that. No need to beg, I get what you're saying.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20887490
きんのアクセサリーとか

つかってるひとみたことない

だいたいプラチナだよ

[Anonymous No.]

>>20884384
around 18:50 and 21:13 he fucking dunks on weebs cuz the best anime are just anime that best reflect human psychology/politics/interactions, in which case you're better off watching shows with actual people who actually reflect reality.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20887640
i agree fiction is completely worthless i only watch the news and jack off to documentaries

[Anonymous No.]

>>20887558
よろしく、マキが大好きだ

[Anonymous No.]

>>20887671
だっくんか?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20887640
That's so childishly foolish. Fiction like the Bible and Evangelion and Shakespeare and K-On! is what molds peoples hearts and shapes history. The legends we pass on are far more consequential than mere reality.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20887698
i thought it was a reasonable take too but it's better to frame it the way i did.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20887702
he namedropped eva as one of the few shows he really likes. and cowboy bebop. and he didn't explicitly say LotGH but he mentioned it in a positive context for its political nature so probably that too.

[Anonymous No.]

so what has he actually been doing the last eight years if hes only ever watched 3000 episodes of anime and read 10 books

[Anonymous No.]

>>20887701
どう思うの

[Anonymous No.]

>>20887718
grindin dat pitch accent nigguh

[Anonymous No.]

These threads are a bother. I spend the whole day reading this and all the bullshit discussion instead of reading more.

Fuck you guys.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20887738
congratulations
you have completed an important step in your journey
now go forth
and be free...............

[Anonymous No.]

>>20887738

[Anonymous No.]

>>20887738
hit that fucking x button king

[Anonymous No.]

>>20887749
senpai just gave you permission desu, so use it

[Anonymous No.]

PUT DOWN THE ANKI OR I'LL FUCKIN DO IT

I'M DEAD FUCKING SERIOUS

[Anonymous No.]

>>20887781
do it
free us from this misery

[Anonymous No.]

>>20887781
stay here and play with us anon
here, i'll start
あいうえお

[Anonymous No.]

>>20887806
丘菊

[Anonymous No.]

>愛上男
>あいうえお
>skilled male lover
lmfao who did dis?!

[Anonymous No.]

>>20887843
it's because if you pronounce あいうえお fast enough you'll sound like tarzan, a character known for how good he fucks

[Anonymous No.]

>when you realize the 4channel logo is yotsuba's hair
I thought it was a 4-leaf clover for the longest time.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20887854
i like saying it to the tune of the whistle from the good the bad and the ugly theme

[Anonymous No.]

>>20887913
hehe, yotsuba came first kashira

[Anonymous No.]

>>20887904
they made a manga about the 4channel girl?

[Anonymous No.]

Did anyone here stick with studying Japanese for over 3 years? Cause I remember being on one of these threads on /a/ back in 2012 and I've quit like 3 times so far.

I'll never make it.

[Anonymous No.]

im ironically learning more japanese reading myfavoritemanga than doing aniki
thanks artie kei

[Anonymous No.]

>>20888034
but how will you know you are actually learning if you don't have the stats, the graphs, the NUMBERS?

[Anonymous No.]

stats are for nerds

[Anonymous No.]

>>20888041
just track how many manga volumes you've read or w/e
fill out one of those reading list sites

[Anonymous No.]

ya know stats are only for bragging rights, right?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20888041
Run text analysis on djt books you read. Find 95% by word count most commonly used words. Note first 500 words will be used 50% of the time. Brag about how many are in the 95% range.

[Anonymous No.]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b5jL-m0eIG0
konicheewa everyone

[Anonymous No.]

yosh time to read all the day

[Anonymous No.]

>>20888233
きょうはなにをよみますか

[Anonymous No.]

i started rtk i now know 16 kanjis, basically already made it

[Anonymous No.]

>>20888436
Good start for the day, just 34 more and you're done for today.

[Anonymous No.]

ヘラヘラ動画
what does it mean? and is there someplace else where I can search for these things that yomichan doesn't help with?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20887904
>Yotsuba channels logo is yotsubas hair
What a shocking reveal that must have been.

[Anonymous No.]

you can never actually speak japanese. you can only mimick actual japanese people and sound like a cringy weaboo faggot.

[Anonymous No.]

Who here does the whole shadowing thing.
I'm considering doing that for my English cause my accent sucks ass, way too early to even begin considering that for Japanese lmao.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20888651
t. a raging dekinai

[Anonymous No.]

>>20888723
I plan on trying it for a bit, I'm just looking for a person to shadow
Most of the content I watch is with females

[Anonymous No.]

>>20887177
how does it not make sense?

she's saying このままいさせてください ie asking her travelling companion if it's ok to stay there for a bit

[Anonymous No.]

What's youtube's stance on videos where you read with the source material visible onscreen?
Like let's play, which is allowed, but let's read instead?

With games you can say watching is not the same as playing, but the same doesn't go for novels/manga.
Once you see the story there's no reason to buy it anymore. Same with some VNs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20888723
my teacher told me to get this https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/4874244955/ after spending a year learning japanese with him and saying i have the thickest accent he has ever seen. I have been doing a page or two a day while recording my audio (only started last week or so) i'm not sure if it works yet desu

[Anonymous No.]

>>20888757
>With games you can say watching is not the same as playing
You could, but no judge will ever buy that. The reason it's allowed is that companies allow it. That's why when Atlus or Nintendo tell youtubers to fuck off there's nothing they can do but whine about fair use.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20888760
Keep us updated! I take it you have that cringy thick American accent?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20888760
upload vocaroo I want to hear the thickest accent

[Anonymous No.]

https://vocaroo.com/i/s0ZW5OGdY6YJ

[Anonymous No.]

>>20888793
oof

good luck bro, you'll need it

[Anonymous No.]

>>20888781
https://vocaroo.com/i/s0nKXcK7iDO7

I've already improved a lot so it's not as bad as it was

[Anonymous No.]

>>20888800
lol i can tell u r fat as hell

[Anonymous No.]

>>20888800
Nice numbers

[Anonymous No.]

>>20888810
And you continue to spam these threads with your lowercase 9-year-old-on-MSN idiocy, everyone has something.

[Anonymous No.]

i mean if i can fat shame 1 person into not being fat then its all worth it

[Anonymous No.]

>>20888810
How you can you tell?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20888844
i didnt evne insult his nihongo i coulda said fat and お上手

>>20888847
it just seemed very physically taxing for the boy to speak just in general

[Anonymous No.]

>>20888753
I miss youっていってるんだよ

ぎょうかんよんで

[Anonymous No.]

Why is Japan so stylish and trendy?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20887177
its like this dude

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rorwfgNuSj4#t=42

[Anonymous No.]

>>20888858
doesn't really help to read between the lines when we're talking about specific grammar usage tho does it

[Anonymous No.]

After I didn't know what
うん、顔に出てるよ
meant, I've been considering if learning this language is for me. Everyone's explanation made complete sense but how did I not know what に was doing in this particular case. Made me feel like I was back to week 1.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20888887
Watch more anime

[Anonymous No.]

who cares about ur fragile disposition if u actually learned something then congratulations u made this thread only 99% worthless

[Anonymous No.]

>>20888124
>find random word with kanji you don't know
>check what kanji means
>check what radicals it has
>fit radicals together with a mnemonic
>wait until multiple kanji start looking the same because you did a shitty job
>make a new mnemonic
This sounds an awful lot like doing RTK in a really stupid and inefficient way. Just go back to explaining grammar, you were pretty good at that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20888124

[Anonymous No.]

its funny cuz the way it truly organically happens is all that stuff sorta happens on its own but u dont add a billion extra steps and mnemonics u just get used used to things

[Anonymous No.]

guys i want to learn japanese but i really dislike reading shit

what do?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20888950
eat ass

[Anonymous No.]

>>20888950
why do you want to learn

[Anonymous No.]

>>20888973
idk i want to act in JAVs

[Anonymous No.]

ah yes some of those also make me dream of being the girl

but u dont wanna live that life trust me

[Anonymous No.]

>>20888757
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL1jyoT2-mS4XCYtTNaO1ibOQhqDoEEajf
Basically it's what nuke is doing. He livestreamed reading two or three light novels along with a bunch of drama transcripts. Might fall under the let's play loophole since he's on screen, playing audio of the text, and pausing to look up meanings.

[Anonymous No.]

it really only comes down to if the copyright holder actually comes forward and asks the vid gets taken down

a lot of this shit is automated with skynet now bc ppl aint got time for that shit 1 video at a time but things that arent easily detected by the system have to have claims filed manually so tldr dont fuckin worry about it

[Anonymous No.]

>>20889094
I'm just trying to imagine anon reading eroge from the DJT library outloud on youtube. Even better if he shows his face while doing it.

[Anonymous No.]

i mean theres a billion of those on yt/nnd already just usually ppl who know japanese and with ero cut out

usually no webcam shit cuz thats gay

[Anonymous No.]

>>20888124
So RADICALS are important.

[Anonymous No.]

i mean they are the building blocks of kanji >: )

[Anonymous No.]

u cant make a chinese house without some epic rads

[Anonymous No.]

>even native Japanese spend 9 years learning Kanji

[Anonymous No.]

>>20889429
どこまでやるかでかわるけど

常用漢字だけなら

まいしゅう２０単語づつやって

６ねんとちょっとだとおもうよ

[Anonymous No.]

>>20887926
This comment is underappreciated.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20884868
>after dolly betrayed me
so you asked her to marry you and she declined?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20889466
who the fuq writes ずつ as づつ

[Anonymous No.]

６ねんのなかに

にほんごでマス

にほんごでサイエンス

にほんごでヒストリー

にほんごでミュージック

ぜんぶやって６ねんだから

けっこうおぼえることはおおいよ

[Anonymous No.]

Here's what Heisig thinks of Anki, as written in his bestselling book, "Remembering the Kanji, Volume 1":
>One, rather outdated, method is to design for yourself a set of flash cards as you go through the book. Another is to take advantage of an iPad app called "Remembering the Kanji" (produced by Mirai LLP) that has been created especially for the purpose.
Your thoughts?

[Anonymous No.]

It's good to see that so many of you are checking your native English speaker privilege by struggling to learn Japanese.

[Anonymous No.]

note the "as u go through the book" part as thats pretty important

[Anonymous No.]

>>20889636
probably bait but you obviously can't extrapolate an opinion about anki from a comment about physical flashcards m8 it's nowhere near the same thing

[Anonymous No.]

>>20889645
Nothing makes my tiny-ass dick harder than those sweet, sweet (You)s. Thanks for taking the bait, sir!

>>20889637
>native English speaker privilege
The privilege of being unilingual at 22? I'd happily part with it.

[Anonymous No.]

hello everyone, years ago i saw a post with all the "essentials" to start learning japanese
i lost it a while back i cant find anything similar
any help 0-,:?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20889662
>新ガイド https://itazuraneko.neocities.org/
>旧ガイド https://djtguide.neocities.org/

[Anonymous No.]

last

[Anonymous No.]

>>20889669
not allowed to make a post like this

[Anonymous No.]

last for best girl

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sKHIrqy_jZc

[Anonymous No.]

sorry haha delete my post













still last though

[Anonymous No.]

>>20889677
>>20889671

[Anonymous No.]

laster

[Anonymous No.]

>>20889683
yameta hou ga ii bitch

[Anonymous No.]

>>20889687
say it like u mean it not like thats the only way u know how to say that cuz u watched anime once bitch

[Anonymous No.]

anime will be waiting for you tomorrow

[Anonymous No.]

>>20889693
okay "you had better cut that shit out right fuckin now bitch" bitch!!!

[Anonymous No.]

What's rikaisama doing back in the guide? Is it working on firefox again?

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>20889636
He's definitely right. I'd rather trust the emperor of Japan over some ankidrones.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20889741
>emperor
I think you've misspelled "God".

[Anonymous No.]

>>20889636
heiseig used common sense mnemonics which was smart and then wrapped it in a bunch of eccentric unnecessary shit, his opinion means little. Remembering is remembering and he's nothing special.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20889759
Talented people are oftentimes eccentric, so what?
You guys need to stop shitting on RTK by the way.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20889759
>and then wrapped it in a bunch of eccentric unnecessary shit
What?

[Anonymous No.]

>learning to write kanji for no reason at all
>increasing the time it takes to get decent input
>believing in somebody selling you anything
>being against something scientific like srs

[Anonymous No.]

>>20889637
yea i'm pretty glad i'm english native. i'd rather be english native than a bilingual french, german, or russian native for example. learning japanese is nice.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20889802
agreed, only two you'll ever need to use and imagine all of these non english natives needing to an extra one

[Anonymous No.]

>>20889801
you know rtk was written in the 1970s right? learning the kanji meant writing them

[Anonymous No.]

ラビオリラビオリギブミザフォムーオリ

[Anonymous No.]

>>20889810
>an official member of the heisig religion
thanks for teaching me about your lord and savior

[Anonymous No.]

>>20889802
>being glad that you don't speak an extra language for free
Dude, English can be learned just by browsing le internets for a couple of years. Being a native English speaker is not as big a privilege as you want it to be.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20888124
>My humble apologies for the late appearance of this video. I was using new software and so much went wrong that I won't even start to tell you - in the end I had to largely re-build it from scratch.
>I'm so sorry.

CUTE!

[Anonymous No.]

If no makes things possessive like watashi no = my, then how come something like yakusoku no neverland = the promised neverland instead of promise’s neverland?

[Anonymous No.]

大きく揺れた場所では家が壊れたり山などが崩れたりする 心配が あります。

山 in this is heaps or piles and not mountains right?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20889869
>the promised neverland instead of promise’s neverland
no difference between these two

[Anonymous No.]

>>20889869
it's not possessive in this case look up the word genitive
>>20889873
you don't know English

[Anonymous No.]

>>20889827
I thought the "uncanny valley" was just a meme until I saw these videos and also the Mexican version.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20889871
山崩れ means landslide.
When you live at a place with large earth quakes, you have to worry about the house collapsing, landslides, etc.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20889871
what happens when a mountain starts falling spart anon

[Anonymous No.]

>>20889824
those extra languages don't matter. i'd rather sound normal/native in english than know both german and english.

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>20889941
>>20886045

[Anonymous No.]

>reddit tier memes
>some of you are linguistic liberals

[Anonymous No.]

liberals get btfo pretty much every time they try spreading their pseudoscience here dude

[Anonymous No.]

every1 who doesnt watch 10000 hours of eng subbed anime gets btfoed at some point

[Anonymous No.]

>>20889952
wtf is a linguistic liberal

[Anonymous No.]

>>20889889
山崩れ does mean land slide but there's the など after the 山 so I thought it was saying something like, "Debris etc" is what's broken up or coming down.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20889972
1. Somebody who doesn't follow the guide.
2. The guide doesn't tell you exactly what to do.

[Anonymous No.]

I'm German and learned English basically for free without doing much extra work. German is also a good native language to speak for learning Japanese since the pronounciation isn't as far removed from Japanese as English pronounciation is. Though I've heard that Spanish is supposed to be even better in that regard.

[Anonymous No.]

explain to me in english but from a japanese point of view how で can both refer to a location and also mean "by way/means of".

[Anonymous No.]

>>20889981
no they're talking about actual mountains. there's no definition of 山 that means "debris" lol, how would "debris falls apart" really make sense anyway? debris is already 崩れた

[Anonymous No.]

>>20888753
I guess this makes sense. Not sure what tripped me up but it was probably my dekinainess. Thank you anon.

[Anonymous No.]

i don't think accent is that hard to practice as long as you're 110 IQ minimum, and i don't see germans and spaniards trying to compete with english natives like dogen in terms of accent. but again, i'd take native english over ESL any day of the week.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20889995
particles are just used for different things as the language has developed over 2000 years. it doesn't have some basic fundamental meaning that has to connect all usage cases. can you really define things like "at" or "by" in English?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20889997
Okay I think I get it now. Thank you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20890003
i'm esl, barely have an accent and i'd argue that my english skills are at around 95% of those of an average native, probably better than a retarded native even
i'll trade those 5% of ability in exchange for knowing a whole other language any day

[Anonymous No.]

>>20890043
i'll trade that*

fixed that for you there champ

[Anonymous No.]

>>20890047
actually on reading the full sentence it really should be i'd as well. don't give up your 5% yet

[Anonymous No.]

>>20890043
if that 5% means you're easily identifiable as an ESL then it's not worth knowing a second language. anything worth knowing is in english. the only unique media in the world worth consuming is japanese.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20890079
>the only unique media in the world worth consuming is japanese.
lol insanity

[Anonymous No.]

Latin. Ancient Greek. Sanskrit.
If you want more interesting languages, you can go in that order.

[Anonymous No.]

i don't mind ESLs but sometimes they get uppity because they were able to learn the most widely spoken language in the world with the most compelling content. and most of the time they're natives in a language that is very similar to english, and they still think that's an accomplishment. so i have to cut em down to size. if you say "oh yea i can tell you're not native because of your accent but your english is really good" they get pissy about it lol

[Anonymous No.]

>>20890089
it's true. there's english, and if you're a weeb, japanese. there's nothing else out there that matters.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20890169
only an eop could believe this

[Anonymous No.]

japanese is my second language
igirisugo is my third language

[Anonymous No.]

ok guys i know this is cringe as fuck but here is my dilemma

I started learning japanese 1.5 years ago with an italki teacher, back then i didnt know shit about japanese so i just used [first name] sensei

but now i think about it its probably more correct to use his last name to be more polite etc but im afraid that just now switching to [lastname] sensei going to be awkward

what should i do

[Anonymous No.]

>>20890347
If he cared he would've corrected you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20890347
ask him which one he prefers

[Anonymous No.]

>>20890347
he's a pervert

[Anonymous No.]

>>20890079
I'm gonna regret not doing my reps today

[Anonymous No.]

>>20890378
Didn't mean to quote that post

[Anonymous No.]

>>20890347
lmaooo this owns

[Anonymous No.]

>>20890347
if you know it's awkward then don't do it you moron

[Anonymous No.]

>>20890347
It's actually more common than you would think and I wouldnt worry about it for even a minute.

[Anonymous No.]

English:
Is
Japanese:
である
であります
でござる
でございます
です

[Anonymous No.]

redpill me on iq poster

[Anonymous No.]

その先生に訂正されなかったなら
名前呼びのままでいいと思う

[Anonymous No.]

I can't understand pic related
>帰り道
while going home
>最初がいいって
the first time is ???
>言ってたんだよ?
didn't I tell you?

how do I piece this into making sense?
help

[Anonymous No.]

>>20890454
ye honestly why are the english such uncouth sloths

[Anonymous No.]

>>20890454
English:
are
is
am
??

[Anonymous No.]

>>20888124
once again thumbnail says organic and she endorses synthetic
wait a second that robotic fuck

[Anonymous No.]

>>20890479
is this porn
also post the whole page you dummy

[Anonymous No.]

>>20890479
i told you already that we can fug on the way home
i'll make you cum buckets

[Anonymous No.]

>>20890487
Just use be all the time like niggers do.
I be goin' out fo' sum sammich.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20890512
it's not porn, it's art
and no, dummy, this is a blue board and I like this IP

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>understand every single word in a paragraph
>have to reread it again and again just to get what it's actually trying to say and change it from a string of words to a comprehensible idea

[Anonymous No.]

>>20890455
If you're an Ashkenazi jew or east asian you will be able to learn japanese, otherwise you should give up now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20890522
just censor the titties dumbass seeing the other bubbles gonna help

[Anonymous No.]

>>20890479
>帰り道demo
even while going home
>最初がいいって
since the beginning it's ok
>最初がいいって
i told you didnt i?
>ippaishiteagete
lets fuck tons
>haato
heart

[Anonymous No.]

>>20890540
I'm 25% jewish.. so you're telling me theres a chance

[Anonymous No.]

>>20890539
Just like a kid does though. Takes years.

[Anonymous No.]

>this is how they teach English in Japan

[Anonymous No.]

>>20890545
how is it "since the beginning"? surely 最初がいい is either "the first/beginning is good/fine"

[Anonymous No.]

>>20890577
Jesus Christ. At least roumaji is able to somewhat represent Japanese sounds. Doing it the other way around is absolutely fucked.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20890584
post the page/title already my man

[Anonymous No.]

>>20890588
this is why Japanese can't pronounce English

[Anonymous No.]

>>20890544
>>20890512
last time I got permabanned just for saying C---P, i hope I don't get banned again

[Anonymous No.]

>>20890588
>roumaji

[Anonymous No.]

>>20890577
>fuck off
>行ってらっしゃい
What the fuck?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20890602
autist spotted

[Anonymous No.]

>>20890599
It's the correct way of writing ローマ字

[Anonymous No.]

lomanjee

[Anonymous No.]

幸あれ sounds like 'such yare'

[Anonymous No.]

>>20890588
>>20890599
>>20890621
It's actually rōmaji.

[Anonymous No.]

or rŏmaji

[Anonymous No.]

romañji?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20890597

[Anonymous No.]

Pretty sure it's called pinyin.

[Anonymous No.]

Hey bro, do me first.

Hehe.
I told you since the very beginning that it was ok, didn't I? Let's do it a lot.

Haa Haa
Bro... Quickly...

Haa
Squish
Badum

Lick my cunny...

[Anonymous No.]

>>20890597
you fucking retard you didn't mention its literal lolicon shit. delete it

[Anonymous No.]

wtf is this shit kill this thread now

[Anonymous No.]

ぷりゔぇっと。やはちゅしゅとっぶやずなるやぽんすきやじっく。ぱもじてりむね、れびゃた?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20890655
that doesn't seem to use the >帰り道

>>20890676
ok, done, didn't get banned

[Anonymous No.]

How fucking dead is /jp/ for this thread to reach 1k posts?

[Anonymous No.]

r u new

[Anonymous No.]

>>20890597
You should've just posted a link to panda in that case.
And going back to your question, I have no fucking idea what was that supposed to mean either even after reading the whole chapter. Just give up and stop fretting small things.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20890699
千

[Anonymous No.]

not as dead as your japanese skills

[Anonymous No.]

shitposters from all over 4chan gather here dude.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20890691
>that doesn't seem to use the >帰り道
You right. Well, it should be something like "even when it's time to go home" or "on our way home" since the girls are done with school.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20890691
I was telling you it was fine for you to go first on the way home too

[Anonymous No.]

I am the master of Japanese. Ask me anything before this thread dies.

[Anonymous No.]

can I learn Japanese playing minecraft modpacks?

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>20890724
Prostitution.

[Anonymous No.]

Videos on TBS news aren't playing for me. I wonder if it's because I'm using an adblocker.

[Anonymous No.]

its prolly cuz ur gay

[Anonymous No.]

I will miss you loli man. Be smarter next time.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20890747
come the fuck on dude i'm legitimately somewhat interested in the news

[Anonymous No.]

>>20890731
so this is high literature

[Anonymous No.]

>>20890727
Anything is possible with Minecraft mods.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20890754
yah but i mean no1 here gives a fuck about ur computer problems

[Anonymous No.]

based jannies taking out the pedo trash

[Anonymous No.]

>>20890763
but the point is that someone may have experienced a similar issue and can help. and you know this, and this thread is full of shit, so why do you care? you don't care. you're just looking for an excuse to be hateful. fuck you dude. leave me alone.

[Anonymous No.]

>watching news instead of masturbating to drawings of octopuses raping 8-year-old little girls

[Anonymous No.]

>>20890773
im not really hatin ok look ill throw u a bone

did u try rtfm ?

[Anonymous No.]

Thank you janny for being lenient.
>>20890749
Atleast it wasn't permaban
>>20890772
Rude

[Anonymous No.]

>>20890798
now its gonna be lol.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20890742
why didnt you put in the additional five seconds of effort to follow up on your theory and try disabling the adblocker

[Anonymous No.]

>>20890773
ever thought about disabling your adblock for 5 mins to test instead of asking dumb questions like a retard?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20890802
>>20890804
I did and it had no effect. But only someone with similar issues could have helped, so whether or not I confirmed that disabling adblocking worked had no bearing on anything.

[Anonymous No.]

anyone have the Tango books?

[Anonymous No.]

Just make another thread already. As soon as someone makes another DJT thread, this one will die.

[Anonymous No.]

imagine picking the final posts of a djt to be the hill u die on lol

[Anonymous No.]

>>20890813
low IQs deserve 0 help

[Anonymous No.]

>>20890719
how do i keep going when it feels like failure is all around me to the point that i have myself became a failure

[Anonymous No.]

>>20890824
hateful piece of shit

[Anonymous No.]

>>20890827
Laugh at people who still use roumaji/rōmaji.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20890813
the bearing is that you actually tried something before asking for help
disabling my adblocker made it work for me but i had to wait almost 10 seconds for it to work

[Anonymous No.]

honestly surprised no1s told him to install genitalia yet

[Anonymous No.]

>>20890832
Dear Master of Japanese

How does it feel to still know joy?

[Anonymous No.]

NEW THREAD

>>20890847
>>20890847
>>20890847
>>20890847

[Anonymous No.]

>>20890846
素敵な感じ

[Anonymous No.]

>>20890577
>ai raiku yuu
this will never not make me laugh

[Anonymous No.]

このスレはまだ生きてる!

[Anonymous No.]

last for my japanese girlfriend

[Popo !59.2//u/7M No.]

>星界の戦旗Ⅴ 宿命の調べ
>2018
I'm looking to restart this translation project since the novels are finally out of hiatus. If there is anyone interested in working on this, contact me on #humankind on rizon . Specifically, the project needs translators, but anyone who wants to add something is welcome. Raws can be provided.

I want to use the already existing, but dead, baka-tsuki project to release and edit, but am open to whatever ideas you guys might have.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20890824
nobody deserves anything

[Anonymous No.]

imagine recruiting a translator for anything out of djt lmao

[Anonymous No.]

>>20890939
I mean, I agree, but I'm pretty sure even the average DJT EOP could put out something equally "good" as most fan translations.

[Anonymous No.]

no they really cant what a horrible misconception

[Anonymous No.]

i think you grossly underestimate how bad the average scanlation is

[Anonymous No.]

>>20890956
Most likely even better than average.

[Anonymous No.]

i mean ive seen the shit but i think u grossly underestimate how bad the after djter is right now

[Anonymous No.]

average*

[Anonymous No.]

>>20890986
okay to be fair this one is a special case, they literally just took the english dub of the anime and inserted the lines into the speech bubbles it wasn't even a translation lol

[Anonymous No.]

>>20891004

[Anonymous No.]

>>20890932
can i join ur scanlation crew heresm y tryout

[Anonymous No.]

>>20891010
lumpur is throwin me for a loop

[Anonymous No.]

>>20891018
上手ですね [You da fucking man, nigga]