/DJT/「Daily Japanese Thread」第2111番

[Anonymous No.]

New guide:
https://itazuraneko.neocities.org/
Old guide for those afraid of change:
https://djtguide.neocities.org/

Remember: Don't listen to any advice from DJT
前スレ: >>20860688

[Anonymous No.]

すみません

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[Anonymous No.]

op is trash 絶対に

[Anonymous No.]

What is the best way to internalize obscure N1 grammar that you rarely come across while reading shit?

[Anonymous No.]

read more but 真面目に

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djt could have finally died and you just had to go and post it

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>>20867830
>>20867809
you know this is the 連用形 of だ right and not actually the particle に

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>>20867831
失礼します

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それで ?

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>>20867836
本当に

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あなたの好きなバンドリは誰ですか？

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>>20867847
yea so's that one. if you actually see the に particle it's a fill in the blank type situation tho

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>>20867836
>連用形
i remembered this thanks to a certain guy's video.

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>>20867820
anki obviously

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あこちゃんの生足が大好き！

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>課せられた
Why is Japanese so fucking stupid sometimes

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どういうふうに ?

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>>20868003
どういうふうに「ばかばかしい」のかって？

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どこがおろか

具体的に

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If I were to ask someone if they liked something, would I say "Anata da [x] suki"?

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>>20868028
具体的に「説明してください」って？

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so とは can mean something like "as for that" or "that"?

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>具体的
just letting you guys know i saw this word repeated a few times in the thing i'm reading a week or two ago so i remember it's reading and a loose definition.

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>>20868096
if it isn't at the end of a sentence it's typically used to define something (a word/concept/etc)

セルフィーとは、自分の写真を自分で撮ることでござるって感じ

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I've noticed that the common opinion of anime with English subtitles is that they are completely useless for learning and you might as well just watch the English dub.

As someone who watches a lot of anime with or without Japanese subtitles, as well as occasionally English subtitles (ratio is like 2:2:1, respectively), I disagree with that stance. It simply hasn't been my experience. If your listening skill has been decently trained already, I do not think anime with English subtitles has to be useless. In some specific cases it might even be preferable, depending on your level. Here are my thoughts from experience:

You can still pick up new vocabulary. If your listening skill is keen enough, you can pick up new words from listening even if the subtitles are in English, and add them to anki if you want. There's literally nothing stopping you from doing this. In an episode of Mob Psycho II I watched today, I picked up the word 握力 from listening. The subtitle said something about "grip power" and I heard あくりょく. From the english clue and my knowledge of 把握、握手、～力 etc, I could instantly predict what that particular word meant, and what the kanji would be. And I was right. This kind of thing can happen multiple times in one episode.

If the anime is too hard for you to watch raw/j-subbed and actually follow along, you have ample scaffolding to allow for picking up words and phrases in context like I described in point 1. Let's say theoretically, out of a 450-line show, at your current level of grammar and vocab knowledge, you'd understand 200 lines either mostly or completely if they were in isolation.
If you watch the entire thing raw, it is unlikely you'd even get those 200 lines, because there would be so much ambiguity surrounding them (the other 250 that sound like gibberish because they just have too much new vocab or complex grammar) for you to make sense of the parts you WOULD have understood. Just like with reading, you have to know enough of what's happening in the context to benefit. Too many unknowns will prevent you from learning anything.There are three options in this kind of situation:
1.) Don't watch the show at all until your Japanese is good enough to understand most of it without subtitles, which might take another few years. Some people do choose this route though, and I suppose it's valid for those who are very hardcore.
2.) Watch with English subs, absorb your attention only into the engsub, and forget about Japanese completely. The default route for those who assume that engsubs necessarily render the anime useless for learning.
3.) Watch with English subs, using the English as a scaffolding for the story as you tune your ears for whatever Japanese you *can* understand, make sense of and learn from.

You can use your pre-existing knowledge to see how localization/translation changed the original message. Being able to recognize when the Japanese is saying one thing, and the English sub is saying another slightly, or even completely different thing, is GOOD. Looking out for such differences can be an interesting listening exercise in itself, and can help reinforce your understanding that translations/localizations are often approximations of what's truly being said.

You still have a chance to hear Japanese. Unlike with dubs, there is still spoken Japanese playing. And depending on how polished your listening skill already is, it is likely that you will be able to hear words, phrases, or entire sentences you already know, reinforcing them. This happens hundreds of times per episode for me, and its especially nice when it's a word or phrase I've recently learned, or hadn't heard in a long time and needed refreshing.
It's widely parroted on here that your brain will always take "the easiest route" by blocking out all Japanese audio in favor for the English text. But that just hasn't been the case in my experience at all. Perhaps it's because the majority of my listening is raw so my brain is now attuned to hearing the Japanese, and because I have the intention to listen for it, I'm able to hear many words and phrases, often adding things I pick up (n+1) to my anki deck. Any Japanese you can hear and successfully process is useful to some degree.

Those are my thoughts on the issue. Ultimately, shows that are well-catered to your vocab and grammar level, with no subs or Japanese subs, are ideal for the most learning. But we all know that not all the shows we want to watch match our current level. I wanted to share how it's possible to still gain something from shows that fall into that category. Thanks for reading!

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consequently it doesn't have a good english translation b/c we dont place any linguistic emphasis on when we're defining shit vs when we're not.

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>>20868037
No friend. It's "anata wa [x] ga suki desu ka". Just remember that.

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>>20868117
>If your listening skill has been decently trained already
nice caveat

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わたしはこいつらとは違う

わたしはゲイ

>>20868117
im gonna read ur post and if it gives me aids im sending u 2 the yamino sekai forever

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I started learning Japanese 9 months ago as a self-learner. I have used almost just apps, mainly Lingodeer and Kanji Study. I have taken the N5 test in December (and passed). In preparation to that I’ve also taken a few 1-to-1 lessons and completed an excellent book (Try! N5). However, I focused on the N5 just to have a goal, conscious that my speaking and reading skills would not be as good. I recently started taking Skype lessons on Italki and I realised (unsurprisingly) that I struggle with even basic vocabulary and grammar when I have to talk or write things up from zero. I have studied all the N5 grammar and beyond, but I don’t know it enough to use it confidently (unless I’m solving exercises on Lingodeer or so). I think I might need a textbook to help "cement" the grammar. Would Genki be the best choice for me, even though I mostly need to reinforce the grammar points? My italki teacher uses Genki for exercises, but I’m slightly frustrated that I’d have to start “from zero” with Genki. Do you think Genki is still the best choice for me or shall I get something else, even just an exercise book of some sort? Considering that I mostly study in my commute and I'll keep using Lingodeer and other apps much more frequently than any textbook.

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the problem w/ english subtitles is if you aren't a retard it's hard to stop yourself from reading them the instant they appear, and it'll fuck up your listening because obviously japanese sentences are often translated back to front to suit english grammar. so you'll be hearing the start of a sentence as you read the end in english

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>>20868117
ok trip report this is too many words for something simple that ive stated a billion times and still used less words in all those posts combined than u did in this 1

i didnt get aids tho so i guess u can stay on this side

>>20868127
this really isnt a caveat every1s gonna get to that point if they get enough input

no one cares about day ones week ones month ones or filthy frankly year ones

>>20868137
nice self own

[Anonymous No.]

あなたはバカですか

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>>20868151
definitely not a self own. if you're a native speaker it's almost impossible to stop your brain from instantly comprehending english text when you see it. it's like multiplexing in two different languages, and we all know about crossing language streams.

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>>20868163
Spoken like a true EOP

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>>20868117
i almost read this post and then i thought about how much eroge dialogue i could read instead

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>>20868136
imagine spending 9 months on N5 shit jesus christ some people

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>>20868163
if its not a self own then its just simply handwaving like a retard which is not far removed from a self own desu

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Am I the only one that cringes when westerners
don't understand japans love for sakura blossom festivals?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lhEK1mxOm-I

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>>20868188
There are people who don't understand the greatness of 桜の花?

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>>20868198
some guy last thread said it was "cringy"

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u prolly shouldnt have written that post and then capped it off with a idol trash vid cuz now u r automatically worse

btw to a lot of folks like me sakura season means allergies and wishing u were dead stop being such a weeb pretending hes all bunkateki ur just bunk

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u know that japs dont give a fuck about hanami and just use it as yet another excuse to get drunk as fuck in public right

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>>20868206
We can't all love getting serenaded by male rappers voices all day like you.

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Honestly this whole perfect accent thing is a bit obsessive in my opinion. Assuming you do get that perfect accent, you won't maintain it unless you live in an environment where all you speak is Japanese all day long. It's not something that you "get" and then it stays with you forever. Unless you know for sure you're gonna live in Japan, and really need that perfect accent, it's not worth it. Not sounding like shit is a good goal. Perfection is a crazy goal. (just my opinion)

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>>20868215
maybe we could just come to a compromise here

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CGMKzRMDebo#t=26

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>>20868220
>Not sounding like shit is a good goal. Perfection is a crazy goal.
objective truth

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>>20868229
yah but then u read this

>Unless you know for sure you're gonna live in Japan, and really need that perfect accent,

and everything is canceled out

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When I get the hiragana down can I get straight onto learning grammar and just learn the katakana as I go along? Should I?

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>>20868236
>hiragana
>rtk
there

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>>20868236
it takes like 3 hours of grinding in https://itazuraneko.neocities.org/learn/kana.html to learn hiragana/katakana so just do it first

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>>20868222
>222
Humn, that's fair.

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おはよう

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Eeeee! I am learning Japanese and I am at the point where I am starting to see results and can now shop for cutesy toys online, but I came across アイボリ and had no idea what it was even after sounding it out and had to look it up.

How do I know when a V sound is being used or is it just replaced with a B sound in Japanese like L and R

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>>20868220
>Not sounding like shit is a good goal. Perfection is a crazy goal.
Pretty much on point. Also the benefit is basically non existent. If you're not looking Japanese you're not fooling anyone either way. Other foreigners won't be able to tell the difference between a pretty good accent and a perfect accent and the Japanese might think that you're a bit weird for speaking Japanese without much of an accent but it's nothing more than a shitty parlor trick to them.

People will be far more impressed by an extensive vocabulary and hardly any grammatical mistakes, even if you have a noticeable accent.

How anyone could reasonably invest years of their life into trying to perfect their pronunciation of all things is beyond me.

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I'm sick of it. This is the decade that I'm finally going to learn the first 5 hirgana. Nothing can stop me.

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>>20868259
opayou
geki kai

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>>20868117
Watching English-spoken films with subtitles is becoming increasingly popular throughout
the world. One reason for this trend is the assumption that perceptual learning of the sounds
of a foreign language, English, will improve perception skills in non-English speakers. Yet,
solid proof for this is scarce. In order to test the potential learning effects derived from watch-
ing subtitled media, a group of intermediate Spanish students of English as a foreign lan-
guage watched a 1h-long episode of a TV drama in its original English version, with English,
Spanish or no subtitles overlaid. Before and after the viewing, participants took a listening
and vocabulary test to evaluate their speech perception and vocabulary acquisition in
English, plus a final plot comprehension test. The results of the listening skills tests revealed
that after watching the English subtitled version, participants improved these skills signifi-
cantly more than after watching the Spanish subtitled or no-subtitles versions. The vocabu-
lary test showed no reliable differences between subtitled conditions. Finally, as one could
expect, plot comprehension was best under native, Spanish subtitles. These learning
effects with just 1 hour exposure might have major implications with longer exposure times.

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>>20868260
eeeee わたしはゲイ

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>>20868260
restate your question

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>>20868271
good thing if ur a proper otaku ur gettin all kinds of input besides watching subbed anime or subbed anything so into the trash that goes

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>>20868271
maasama already tore this study apart with the expertise one comes to expect from a native vetted language expert

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>>20868117
>There are three options in this kind of situation:
He missed out keep watching it raw anyway, the correct option

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>>20868273
I ran across the word Ivory / アイリ and had a very hard time understanding what it translated to, because I did not know ボ stood for "vo". Is there a way to tell? Or is it "bo" in japanese and the concept of V in loanwords completely skipped over?

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>>20868268
がんばって名無しくん！

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>>20868293
>アイボリ**

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>>20867884
to repeat set of actions?
"that person has been going and returning in front of the store for a while"?

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i just read eroge for like 3 hours without getting distracted and going on djt but once. feels great. i wish the villain didn't talk super cryptically, but other than that, i'm finally starting to come up on the end of baller sky's first route after 50 hours of play

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>>20868271
listening test results werent much better for the native-sub group and were worse in vocab tho lol

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>>20868271
>a group of intermediate Spanish students of English as a foreign language watched a 1h-long episode of a TV drama in its original English version, with English, Spanish or no subtitles overlaid.

While I agree with the overall tendency that study is a joke. Why even set up a study that tries to measures effects of some learning result over a single hour.

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>>20868293
look up a word like virus and ull see the difference

ull get used to how it all works in time

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>>20868270
元気じゃありません

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idk djt is really good at finding all the retarded shit its what drew me to these threads in the first place

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>>20868308
That answered my question perfectly, it's transliterated into a japanese form, that makes perfect sense. Thank you!

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出来ます!

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>>20868293
the ビ sound and the ヴィ sound are exactly the same in japanese. the latter is just an orthographic change meant to better represent the original loanword.

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Kanji is a load of くそ

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>>20868310
nangaattakai
ganbarinayo

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>>20868301
congratulations

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The ultimate way was always the balanced path.

Do a little bit of everything.
Don't burn your mental resources out.
Mixing things up while keeping them related.
Minimizing down time.

DDMM method

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>>20868293
sometimes it will be written ヴォ but it will still be pronounced ぼ

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>>20868348
>>20868320
Thank you I very much appreciate that, everyone going into Japanese knows the R/L thing and Japanese books kind of gloss over V, so I had no idea.

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>>20868305
I actually took a look at this article and yikes. Perfect demonstration of spurious correlation if I ever saw one. Just throwing in some vague p-value thresholds doesn't make it any more convincing. This paper is a prime example of bullshit science that still somehow got published.

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>>20868358
but the results were SIGNIFICANT!

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>>20868333
インターネットが切れちゃって、スマホのデータを使うしかない。災厄ですわ

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>>20868373
naruhodo
unun sonokimochigawakaruwai-

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>>20868321
漢字が完璧だ

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大変ですね

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Is verb+negative verb (ex. 見る見ない) some kind of a construction?

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>>20868347
ため息混じりに練る料理のレシピの中に

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https://my.mixtape.moe/kjklvc.mp4

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>>20868497
nope. why would you think that? are you just trying to invent your own nihongo?

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>>20868568
does anyone actually click these? i certainly dont. i have reported you for spamming though

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Whatever you say loser shitposter.
You keep playing your character, I'll keep playing mine. At least I'm learning Japanese.

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I want to start my kanji with common animal names but I am unsure how many actually use Kanji names? Do most animals like on this chart simply have Hiragana names?

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'learning japanese' are you sure. u seem to be just doing pointless flashtarding to me and posting it online as if you think any1 gives a single fuck. may as well post a daily video of you making breakfast, at least there might be some variation in that

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>>20868604
They all have Kanji.

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>>20868611
why are you so angry, you could just ignore him you know

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>>20868612
I know a couple of them, but how widely used are the kanji names? Like 羊 versus ひつじ？

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>>20868628
Just learn them all.
Lion is 獅子 by the way.

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>>20868604
starting to learn kanji w/ animal names is pretty dumb. most of those are pretty complex and used less often than their kana (like 鼠, 麒麟、栗鼠、蛙、兎、鰐、蝶々、雛、虎).

as a general rule katakana is preferred for animals anyway. if you look at wikipedia all animal names will be written in katakana. kind of like using latin for scientific names, but used in more common contexts than just scientific.

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>>20868636
>Just learn them all
I realize what I dumb question I asked X3
Thank you

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>>20868604
if you learn common kanji first you'll actually come across them and more easily reinforce them
you'll rarely see animals, and a lot of the time they use katakana for them anyways

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>>20868604
That's a terrible idea. It might only seem good because you have no clue about the common usage of Kanji.

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>>20868604

[Anonymous No.]

just chiming in 2 say i also didnt click the flash tard vid

[Anonymous No.]

i hate the flashtard spammer but i also hate jamal so i'm reluctant to criticize him except for this post

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>>20868611
I see. So you believe Anki is useless. I also feel good about playing contrarian but I don't go as far as to rely reality. I make flashcards from Japanese media I consume. I'm guessing being a retarded lowercase poster is also just something you do to feel special. You people are pathetic.
This thread is lost already so I'll keep posting whatever the fuck I want, but the reason it became like this is because low IQ monkeys like you with nothing but the faintest wish to learn Japanese incessantly shit it up with senseless drivel not a single person has ever benefited from. You can set up a filter for mixtape so you don't see my posts. I recommend you do that because I too have no interest in interacting with inadequate idiots. That give you a big fat dopamine blast? Fuck you.

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u cant hate me that much if u use the terms ive coined like flashtard

[Anonymous No.]

so this guy actually thinks hes contributing to the thread by spamming that shit? lmao!

[Anonymous No.]

its not really spam he posts like a maybe a few of them in a whole thread of hundreds of posts ? i mean they r really bad but u shouldnt say hes spaming imo

[Anonymous No.]

if this guy posts again in a defiant fashion my vision is going to blur. i'm already shaking so hard my mouse fell off my desk.

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i defer to the esteemed urban dictionary in such matters
https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Spamming

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>>20868762
What an embarassing post. Keep them short so you don't revel yourself again.
>>20868763
Judging by the post above, it seems only a... certain kind of person would go so far with flashcards.

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im havin a real quantum leap moment here

im・・a spamer ?

[Anonymous No.]

anki is useful if used efficiently but if you depend on it then you're not gonna make it so you better develop study habits where you don't depend on it

[Anonymous No.]

what i dont get is why flash tard dude is so mad

[Anonymous No.]

i think he genuinely believes hes doing some kind of service to the thread and doesnt like being called out

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>>20868798
autism. i'm mad and i'm not even involved in this

[Anonymous No.]

why he heff to be mad its just a thread

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>>20868762
after reading a number of these posts i cant figure out of this guy is baiting or for real

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W8V5SKM_lSk
Imagine being a year in and needing 抱負 explained to you.
Sad thing is that most of you are this bad at learning this language.
I mean you'll still get there if you keep at it but I'm pushing 5k vocab at 6 months, reading all day, listening all day and you guys wasting away on here all day.

[Anonymous No.]

only someone very high up on the spectrum and low on the functioning could be obsessive about using anki in the way this dude is anyway

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>>20868834
thx dude heres a word for u 保父

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>>20868834
so r u the flashtard guy? 6 months eh.,. explains a lot i guess

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>>20868834
あなたは日本語なんてわかりませんよ

[Anonymous No.]

Tomorrow the hardest part is over bros. We're all gonna make it.

[Anonymous No.]

i bet flashtard guy couldnt even explain to a toddler how to 結ぶ some 靴ひもs lol but dont worry hes leaving yall in the dust

[Anonymous No.]

he's gonna be the next matt-sama peppering his speech poetically and eloquently with 嗚呼's here and there

[Anonymous No.]

imagine bullying some guy on youtube for being bad at japanese after a year of relatively casual study

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>>20868878
i meamn what else are u gonna do when they do things like this

https://vocaroo.com/i/s0RYPh6WwowD

[Anonymous No.]

抱負 is like a frequency 30k word anyway, so mr. '5k vocab' probably knows how to say 抱負 and 魑魅魍魎 but not anything useful

[Anonymous No.]

uhhh excuse me u wanna run that not anything useful part by me again

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NE_eppxzl-E

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>>20868896
he said a year of casual study not over 5 years of the manga wall

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>>20868910
shhh

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>>20868896
はーーいみんんなーーーー！おげんきしてるんかーーーーい！今日ーーはねーー！魅力的なコンサートよー！

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>>20868897
>魑魅魍魎
mined

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>>20868917
お上手ですね

[Anonymous No.]

語学ノウハウ always gets me. imagine writing this out and being like "how can i sound like more of a prick here?"

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Sheesh dude, I get that you are mad but don't accuse other people of being me. There is a limit to shitposting to yourself anyway. Considering how the IP counter changed over the last 30 posts or so you being one guy is probably a reasonable assumption.

>>20868767
Learn to read.

>>20868857
Get off here and never make another condescending post to anyone again you failure. I'm not the guy you replied to by the way.

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>>20868824
There are several of us anti-lowercase posters, however that guy is a bit okashii.

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>>20868920
bad news.

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>>20868920
It's unironically easy to remember, I never mess it up in Anki. Never met any other word with 4 鬼.

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>>20868940
新入ですね

[Anonymous No.]

My cards are pretty simple.

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>>20868950
i usually forget the reading because id naturally want to read it りみもうりょう but that just sounds weird and im like hmm

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>>20868942
youre all okasii but i meant defensive flashcard spammer and he stands out for sure

[Anonymous No.]

I haven't read a single post longer than a single line in this thread, but I can safely state it's the worst one in the history of this general.

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>>20868940
hey flash tard guy u seem to know ur way around a fat deck so maybe u could help me

i keep trying to run flashcardso n my computer but i get this error message any ideas ? cheers mate

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>>20868955
that definition is pretty shit desu. the standard definition is "いろいろの化け物。さまざまの怪物。" various demons & ghosts and all kinds of wild creepy shit

[Anonymous No.]

>>20868961
お前
は
ゲイ

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>>20868961
>worst one in the history of this general
youre stretching it

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>>20868966
lmao this is a good post

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MUzpkh2DBRM

[Anonymous No.]

>>20868762
geez you're an insufferable faggot

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>>20868978
It's even worse than the worst one from a few days ago.

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>>20868897
>thinking 抱負 is an uncommon word in japanese

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>>20868955
is that anki 2.1?

the button style is different wtf...

[Anonymous No.]

this threads actually not that bad i kinda like it

[Anonymous No.]

>>20868987
seems like you think 29k frequency is not uncommon lol. just cause you saw it in a single thing you read once doesnt make it uncommon m8

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>>20868999
>doesn't make it not uncommon
fucked that up but trips still vindicates me

[Anonymous No.]

>>20868999
oh my

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>>20868904
damn jamal's on fire today with the video replies

[Anonymous No.]

>>20868999
that's not conversational frequency, how many books talk about your ambitions?

[Anonymous No.]

Seeing as how 私 has a freq of 900k in yomichan, it must be "the higher the number the more frequent" right?

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>>20868999
dude this word comes up all the time, i just heard it like an hour ago on the radio

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>>20868968
That's believable.
>>20868989
It is, but whatever.

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>>20869017
>jdrama/anime isnt conversational frequency
lmao. there are much more common words to express that.
>>20869022
?

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>>20868999
oh shit thats how many times it showed up in anime and jdramas lolol

[Anonymous No.]

>>20869028
so does baader-meinhof complex. do you know what an uncommon word is? your anecdotal evidence doesnt beat frequency DATA

[Anonymous No.]

why is 上手 jozu but 下手 is heta

japanese is retarded and bull shit

[Anonymous No.]

>>20868999
i come bearing facts and logic
and now that i'm here it's time to leave again, farewell

[Anonymous No.]

lmfao flash tard guy u dont have to delete ur posts were all cool here

[Anonymous No.]

>>20869031
Wait so the numbers work inversely for the novel corpus and anime corpus? Or am I retarded?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20869038
why is 上 ue and 下 sita but 上下 jooge

[Anonymous No.]

no ur still retarded cuz ur looking at english resources for japanese still lmao

[Anonymous No.]

>>20869035
>do you know what an uncommon word is?
OH NONONONONO

[Anonymous No.]

本能に従順忠実翻弄も重々承知

[Anonymous No.]

>>20869049
some of those shitty files use a ranking and some use number of occurrences you have to check which it uses yourself
>>20869059
based

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>>20869038
上　=　かみ、じょ、しょ、うえ、のぼる
one of the more fucked up ones because you hear all off them a lot

[Anonymous No.]

>>20869038
What are you expecting it to be? Kazu?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20869052
ohhohohhohhooohohohhhh <-- this is actual japanese

[Anonymous No.]

>>20869068
should have linked the forvo

[Anonymous No.]

>>20869059
jmdict's commonness tag is based on a small number of newspapers and only during a limited period of time, it doesn't represent how people actually use the language outside of the very most common couple thousand words

[Anonymous No.]

>>20869066
should be joote and kate

[Anonymous No.]

Birthday gift just arrived in the mail, can't wait to start

[Anonymous No.]

that sounds like some kind of interracial ship

[Anonymous No.]

>>20869088
did it come with the complementary butt plug?

[Anonymous No.]

>spend 30 minutes arguing about whether a word is common or not instead of mining it and learning it in 10 seconds
さすが出来ない衆

[Anonymous No.]

>>20869059
?

[Anonymous No.]

birthday gift just arrived in the mail cant wait to start

[Anonymous No.]

>>20869094
based

[Anonymous No.]

birthday gift just arrived in the mail cant wait to start

[Anonymous No.]

公式

[Anonymous No.]

>>20869094

[Anonymous No.]

?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20869109
i cant see it ur laying on top of it can u get out of the box pls

[Anonymous No.]

birthday gift just arrived in the mail cant wait to start

[Anonymous No.]

>>20869088
たんじょうびおめでとうございます！

[Anonymous No.]

>>20869111
BASED

[Anonymous No.]

can u guys curb ur jiheisho and get offa jisho

[Anonymous No.]

42tai

[Anonymous No.]

I'm thinking of going back to anki. I tried the anti-SRS approach that is shilled so hard in this thread, but it's kind of frustrating to be coming across words I know from listening context but not being able to read them, or knowing I've seen it before, but not having the proper spacing to cement the kanji into my long term memory. This has led me to the conclusion that at the end of the day, using anki to reinforce kanji readings is very time efficient. I might try to use sentence cards as having that extra context and being able to see lines from works I've already read seems more efficient than single word cards. The tedium of doing anki for single word cards is why I dropped it in the first place.

I know some people might say read more, but I do not have 4+ hours to dedicate to reading a day, which seems to be near the accepted minimum for the "SRS by reading" method.

[Anonymous No.]

if you think houfu is rare you are NEVER going to make it and should abandon your houfu right now

[Anonymous No.]

ill abandon my ho-fu but i wont ever abandon my do-tei

[Anonymous No.]

>>20869063
Gay. Well I'm just reading VNs and stuff similar to anime, so the anime+jdrama list is probably more relevant to me so I'll just use that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20869122
there's a difference between rare and uncommon. although it's basically pointless to argue about this without stating your own definition of the terms. i'd say any word outside of the top 10k frequency is "uncommon", anything above 50k is "rare"

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>>20869121
thats aight just dont overdose keep it under 30 min a day max

[Anonymous No.]

Word of the day!
自閉症協会

[Anonymous No.]

>>20869130
bullshit, even a third of core6k is newspaper shit that you will never see in anime, LNs or VNs, anything above 10k is probably completely useless

[Anonymous No.]

>>20869121
I didn't read the whole thing but the first half and yes you're right. M4ttt is 10 years in and uses it. If it is so evil it's not evil enough that people who are pretty amazing compared to people here stop using it. I like the analogy it's like a bank you put knowledge in and you can withdrawal it and acquire the knowledge in experience.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20869121
heres the mind blowing 4d universe inside of a universe epic brain stuff

it doesnt matter if ur bad at kanji as long as u know japanese

if u know japanese i think its fine to study kanji and do what u need to do but ppl put the cart before the horse and never learn japanese

its ok to be 超苦手 when it comes to kanji and shit dude just ignore them cuz u already know the words and what goes where anyway whats the point of reading lol

[Anonymous No.]

>>20869096
Do you know if the extra routes in the PSP version of this game are worth it or should I just stick with PC?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20869139
no-one said anything about core6k. it's not even based on actual frequency data anyway.

you don't know japanese if you think you can get away with having a vocab under like 15k even just to comprehend anime and shit

[Anonymous No.]

>>20869136
all you gotta do now is slap ここ over that in furigana and call it good

[Anonymous No.]

>>20869149
stick with pc for the authentic real experience

[Anonymous No.]

>>20869148
how can it be okay to be bad at reading and not be able to recognize vocab if everybody is always saying "if you're spamming a dictionary you're not reading japanese you're reading english definitions and piecing together a meaning from that"
>whats the point of reading lol
not all eroge text is voiced and also, retro games have no voicing at all dude

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>>20869177
we already went over this but thank you for stealing some of my images

you forgot to include 抱負 btw

[Anonymous No.]

>>20869174
well if u are reading a english dictionary then ur fucked

anyway sorry my post was a bit too loose and irresponsible

after all u prolly havent even watched all ur 10000 hours of eng subbed anime yet right

anyway the point is if u dont worry about it and just take it easy itll work out

[Anonymous No.]

>>20869160
The original one, not the remake, right? The remake art looks kinda shitty.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20869182
抱負 is merely uncommon so i decided to let it slide
the guy who expects someone who studied casually for a year to know it is an idiot tho

[Anonymous No.]

>>20869174
>using english dictionaries in 2019

[Anonymous No.]

守護 is definitely a common word btw

[Anonymous No.]

>>20869185
the 1 that came inside the box in the image is the 1 u want

[Anonymous No.]

hmm without he gaijin filters tho

[Anonymous No.]

I watch manga/anime and noticed old men usually, if not always, put い at the end of questions
for example, 「ちがうのかい？」　or 「なんだい？」
Is this a thing irl?

[Anonymous No.]

>64968

wtf

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>>20869183
i wasn't that anon btw i just wanted to also talk
that having been said you're right i haven't watched my 10k hours but i'm working on it
fwiw i will definitely say that it's much easier to learn to recognize and remember a vocabulary word that i already know from watching anime

[Anonymous No.]

if u link google results in here the "dekinai" girl is going to chop ur dick and some of ur balls off the next time u sleep

[Anonymous No.]

>>20869191
i considered using 加護 instead for memes

[Anonymous No.]

>>20869203
deep breaths anon that just means only 64968 people have made a flashcard to remember the kanji writing for a word that literally nobody writes in kanji

[Anonymous No.]

>>20869203
此処 is prob not merged with ここ in that data
which makes it really shit data innit

[Anonymous No.]

>>20869207
that wasn't google it was preogle

[Anonymous No.]

https://my.mixtape.moe/lyzrws.mp4

[Anonymous No.]

>>20869206
yah i mean if u give it enough time having to look shit up all the time eventually ull get familiar enough with kanji that ull see a word like 刺傷 and u will prolly not know how to read it but ull know both kanjis and have a pretty good idea what it means

btw if anyone can read that word correctly but doesnt know japanese theres a pretty big problem there i think

[Anonymous No.]

idk i mean 抱負 is kind of used on a yearly basis like "new years resolution". would you consider "resolution" to be a common english word despite the fact that it's really only used once a year (excluding UN resolutions) but by many people? not that any of this shit actually matters at all

[Anonymous No.]

>>20869207
Requesting rule 34 on dekinai girl.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20869234
don't post amanchu without my permission

[Anonymous No.]

>>20869238
only knew how to read it because that old hentai dude in the 3 hour video was talking about it iirc lol

[Anonymous No.]

>>20869240
screen resolution
new example please

[Anonymous No.]

>>20869234
whats with the mixed message post dude

[Anonymous No.]

>>20869251
is that really something ppl say often tho (except gamers or some shit) lets be honest. i think we can exclude jargon. im just giving a vague exam

[Anonymous No.]

>>20869250
this my ninja right here

[Anonymous No.]

>>20869238
I know how to read it and I think I know Japanese.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20869261
everything is jargon in the vast expansive game of life :)

[Anonymous No.]

>>20869240
i don't think resolution is an uncommon word, especially if you read a lot of fiction (as i would expect an english learner to do i guess)

[Anonymous No.]

>website blocked due to trojan

why you trying to infect my computer nigga

[Anonymous No.]

i guess there's not really much point in demarcating what a common/uncommon word is desu. it's only really useful to consider frequency data for like the first 2k words anyway, then you can just learn w/e vocab you come across yourself

[Anonymous No.]

if ur "considering frequency data" u are 1 not gonna make it and 2 a fuckin https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IRsPheErBj8

[Anonymous No.]

alright version 2 of the most important streamable ever is goin' up yall better be grateful
https://streamable.com/qha01

[Anonymous No.]

>>20869294
im considering it for the sake of future learners. its obv helpful to do flashcards for the most common words to give you a headstart in comprehending stuff

[Anonymous No.]

no not the lad who reeks of piss

[Anonymous No.]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BGyDxK8QjTU
this girls is fluent whats your excuse?
(easiest bait here these days)

[Anonymous No.]

>>20869261
are we separating it from resolve resolute etc

[Anonymous No.]

>>20869297
holy cringe

[Anonymous No.]

>>20869297
No idea who this guy is and don't particularly care to find out, but he's right. Porn is the secret to learning Japanese.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20869312
it's true

[Funposting on /jp/ !!yv/bYCahz/8 No.]

>>20867781
How do I learn Japanese guys?
Should I listen to DJT?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20869297
knowin hes on my side really shakes my faith
>>20869316
djt doesnt agree on anything

[Anonymous No.]

porn is snore

[Anonymous No.]

>>20869316
1. Learn kana
2. Read Tae Kim
3. Watch lots of anime, read lots of porn, use google

[Anonymous No.]

>>20869326
i agree with this if you meant eroge

[Anonymous No.]

>>20869316
Be a thief. You have endless resources all over the internet to cheat your way all the way to fluency. Steal your knowledge, there's endless amounts. Start your adventure with tips in our guide and ajatt is good in ways too, google it and drink some of their koolaid just not too much.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20869306
damn shes rly good actually. more proof that its easy to learn a language when you're young

[Anonymous No.]

>>20869332
nigga kids learn 3 words per day on average on hitting 20+, kids are just good at wasting years to do it because they dont have anything to do

[Anonymous No.]

>>20869328
I meant eroge and eromanga. Not eroanime though because it fucking sucks.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20869306
this timestamp is literally the solution to every1s nihongo problems as long as they can also secure a time machine

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BGyDxK8QjTU#t=393

[Anonymous No.]

>>20869336
yea but your accent will never be as good as hers

[Anonymous No.]

>>20869336
on = I'm* (I really need to start proof reading)

[Anonymous No.]

>ならあまり選択の余地はないと思います
>In that case I don't think there's much room to choose.
is google translate wrong? someone said google translate was bad to use because it'll fuck up translations but this seems accurate to me.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20869342
it was actually more correct before you fixed it

[Anonymous No.]

>>20869340
But what if I lived in japan from ages 4 to 9 which are the most heavily accent influenced ages?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20869349
well then youre merely just backing up what i said about kids learning better then arent u

[Anonymous No.]

>>20869347
looks like google translate is ready to start scanlating

[Anonymous No.]

>>20869352
Adults learn knowledge better kids learn reflexive type pronouncement better. You can target any type of study eventually and fix whatever you put your mind to.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20869347
GT is ok for shit that a) doesnt rely much on context b) is completely grammatically correct, c) is short

in this case it's fine but honestly there isnt anything in that sentence that should be confusing you enough to check google translate. dont use it to check if you were right about how you read it, just read and move on.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20869368
even though i read every day i don't come across あまり often enough to realize that it applied to the whole "の phrase" that came after it. but now i get that it can work that way.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20869365
the reflexive shit is the stuff that's actually extremely difficult to learn tho. that's my point. anyone can memorise 20k vocab and learn some grammar points

[Anonymous No.]

A 3 kanji 2 morae word for zenin
海鷂魚

[Anonymous No.]

>>20869373
"there's no 余地 of much 選択" doesn't make any sense
your problem is much more general than あまり, your brain is bad at storing japanese structure for the short term while it works out the sensible parse
this will fix itself as you keep reading and listening

[Anonymous No.]

>>20869376
unless you're 30+ stop worrying about it, you'll get anywhere you want

[Anonymous No.]

btw the japanese using は means that it's talking about a particular person/group

[Anonymous No.]

>>20869377
if you are memorizing stuff like this you better have a future planned as marine biologist in japan dude

[Anonymous No.]

>>20869373
you need to think of stuff more holistically. せんたくのよち is clearly one individual part of a sentence ("selection room"), you cant split it up to apply あまり to any individual part, only the whole.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20869306
her english cadence pisses me off

[Anonymous No.]

>>20869392
Maybe I'll become one but it was in the title of a song.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20869306
It's weird how she's cute in japanese and gets annoying in english.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20869393
this post triggered me just because its like how does this ever need explained just learn japanese

[Anonymous No.]

>>20869413
does it bother you that you spent ages trying to gain the language thru osmosis when you can just simply understand how the grammar works and come to a more well-rounded understanding of the language even quicker?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20869377
石花

[Anonymous No.]

>>20869382
>"there's no 余地 of much 選択" doesn't make any sense
no room of choice? actually that kinda makes sense to me. i'm fucked. i can't tell if something is or isn't supposed to make sense 99% of the time when reading.
>this will fix itself as you keep reading and listening
it's taking way longer than i expected for even basic stuff like this to fix itself though. you said i shouldn't have needed to use GT for this. after the amount of time i put into this i agree. but i spent 30-60 seconds trying to figure it out before putting it into GT, after which it made sense.
>>20869393
wasn't clear to me and i read every day.
>>20869413
how? "feeling" that sentence didn't get me anywhere.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20869430
reading every day doesn't mean anything
"i've read x books" will say something about where your skill level should be

[Anonymous No.]

>>20869420
u used "understanding" in error there it should "knowledge" which is very much not understanding

anyway no it wasnt really in regard to myself other than it just weirded me out to see something so simple need explained like just watch more anime

[Anonymous No.]

>>20869451
you cant understand something if you dont have the knowledge with which to explain why it is. you can merely superficially comprehend the language.

[Anonymous No.]

no nerd shit plz

[Anonymous No.]

Man.. I'm just watching these people who aren't even N4 at 6 months and here I'm understanding everything on N2日本語の森 vids at the same point.. and I refuse to believe its genetic or history based but an actual love for the language.
As cheesy as it sounds if you don't love this process you crawling like a snail. Anyways, bout to immerse for a week. I'll be back in another week to brag more. だけど愛でるよ。

[Anonymous No.]

actually i woulda took the nerd shit over that post

[Anonymous No.]

>>20869484
love for the language is genetic though. your interests/hobbies are heritable.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20869505
what about when new hobbies are invented checkmate

[Anonymous No.]

>>20869429
wow a kanji to mora ratio of 2. Can we go より高い?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20869484
u know the nihongo no mori vids are specifically made to be easy to understand for dumbasses who dont know japanese right

[Anonymous No.]

>>20869347
I can't understand the sentence even after looking up every word in yomichan. How fucked am I ?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20869531
you're probably super new but i've been reading 4 months which means i'm never gonna learn.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20869526

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>>20869531
Read more

[Anonymous No.]

>>20869531
have u tried understanding it in japanese ?

[Anonymous No.]

i feel i can no longer relate to the dekinais. just cant really wrap my head around not being able to understand shit

[Anonymous No.]

>>20869531
なら
あまり
選択の余地はない
と思います

[Anonymous No.]

stop satirizing me this is a serious plight im facing think about my feelings

[Anonymous No.]

>>20869553
Low IQ? You should be able to remember what it's like.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20869555
i think you have to make sure that あまり～ない are considered as a single unit for this to be a useful breakdown

[Anonymous No.]

>>20869561
i started learning japanese in 2011-2012 and my memory isnt very good anyway (except for kanji obviously)

[Anonymous No.]

he said "unit" heh heh

[Anonymous No.]

>>20869420
You mustn't criticize people's choices this much. For example, some people don't even have sufficient English reading comprehension to benefit from a grammar guide, but still they can learn in other ways. People make mistakes but they're presumably trying to find what works for them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20869347
>>20869531
Supplementary grammar study will fix these issues. "Feeling" your way through nihongo just ends in situations like this where the noise has overwhelmed you and you can't really notice the patterns. Read-only tards are actually damaging people's ability to learn.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20869574
the level of confidence in your superior strategy is amusing

[Anonymous No.]

>>20869586
I think "read only" itt usually means "Read as much as possible and do look up grammar when you get stuck reading a sentence"

[Anonymous No.]

if u havent watched 10000 hours of anime w. the english subtitles extensive grammar study and extensive smashing ur dick in2 incomprehensible text are both equally going to do nothing for u

and with grammar u cant be trusted to just use reference materials and do it on ur own if u dont know japanese else u end up thinking google translate isnt so bad >>20869347

[Anonymous No.]

http://www.guidetojapanese.org/learn/grammar/try
do a little tae kim every day

[Anonymous No.]

https://my.mixtape.moe/ghrfar.mp4

[Anonymous No.]

but forget these silly differing opinions

flashtard guy is back time to not click his link lmao

[Anonymous No.]

Is this accurate?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20869562
That's the breakdown I had come up with on my own. After repeating it to myself the translation sort of kind of makes sense I guess, although I'd have guessed:
>I don't think we have many options left in that case

>>20869586
I need to study grammar more for sure. I'm a little confused by と here.

[Anonymous No.]

ill be honest even if i wanted to click it i cant. a blessing in disguise perhaps

[Anonymous No.]

>>20869605
>w. the english subtitles

[Anonymous No.]

>>20869377
that's fucked up and upsets me in ways i didn't know my brain could process

[Anonymous No.]

>>20869603
anyone who interprets it as you are never allowed to look up anything deserves to not make it

[Anonymous No.]

>>20869619
You can. I bet you can't even read that. Are you the same guy who said trojan before? Way to expose yourself.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20869505
i was gonna respond to this about how my dad is a navy dude who hates japan japanese and all nerd shit but then i remembered that my mom, while white, WAS born in tokyo
pretty sure i'm genetically guaranteed to make it lads i had to have inherited at least a little yamato damashii right

[Anonymous No.]

>>20869617
so whoever told me to read astelight as my first eroge was trolling me after all. wasnt really that hard to understand just too much new vocab

[Anonymous No.]

>>20869636
this post is difficult to parse, shit

[Anonymous No.]

>>20869608
have you considered attaching better images to your posts to pull the reader in to click your links

[Anonymous No.]

>>20869617
if u dont know japanese how can u actually utilize some idiot 8 level system that has like 2 games each

use a real chart made by real pros who are old enough to be ur dad and frankly given the chance would come over and hang out with ur dad and wed talk shit about how bad u r at japanese behind ur back lol

[Anonymous No.]

>>20869608
bro just share the deck and stop trying this weird spoon feeding

[Anonymous No.]

u know i think flashtard guy is gonna inspire me to bring back the nihongo word of the day

[Anonymous No.]

>>20869641
not the same guy. you're just sharing trojans. im not gonna accept the cert of your virus website. it's pretty transparent you're just posting this all the time to infect as many as possible.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20869642
well it doesn't really matter if your parents both hated japanese. times change and plus tall parents can have short kids. still all genetics bruh. you were gifted. use it wisely.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20869660
make it image based and we all guess the word

[Anonymous No.]

>>20869656
Make cards yourself. It's a mining deck. Why would I share it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20869674
thats a bad idea every time i play pictionary i just draw benis

[Anonymous No.]

>>20869684
why do you keep posting it then? whats the point?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20869617
a chart based solely on vocab stats is fundamentally flawed so instead may i recommend >>20869647 as still the best chart to exist

[Anonymous No.]

>>20869696
Don't worry about it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20869699
trojans?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20869684
mofo you sharing it here, I'm changing sides to hating you bc you giving me words I can't study for real

[Anonymous No.]

>>20869696
Why does he have to share it? Some people just want to show off their cards/words they mined. So what.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20869617
little history lesson on this back in the old days people would ask for recs and ask how hard game X was on a scale of 1 to 5 where 5 was dies irae and it was too pathetic to watch and thats where these rulers came from

[Anonymous No.]

>>20869647
with you my dad would moan about how much of a failure i am but wouldn't care about my not knowing japanese

[Anonymous No.]

>>20869707
why are you posting in the 3rd person lol? your posting style is like top 5 most obvious here

[Anonymous No.]

>>20869644
anyone who interprets it as
>you are never allowed to look up anything
deserves to not make it

[Anonymous No.]

i wonder how obvious my posting style is. i think i pose as like 3 different people pretty effectively.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20869703
Just mine the video if you care about the words so much.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20869697
ahkchually that chart involves complexity too
http://wareya.moe/extra/statsgraph.html
it's still worthless for anything more than a little novelty and shutting up beginners who act like fsn is just as easy as flyable heart, but the era when that was a problem is long passed

[Anonymous No.]

>>20869647
uncle jamal have you really played all of those games?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20869713
I'm the dyslexic european guy. Not the one you were replying to before my post.

>>20869716
Thank you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20869724
i mean i guess i only played some of the mareni shit and perhaps not all of it

otherwise yah

[Anonymous No.]

>>20869733
thankfully you can assume that anything mareni makes is the final boss of eroge and you wont be wrong

[Anonymous No.]

i really felt like a dekinai again after trying to play astelight im glad it's just actually hard supposedly

[Anonymous No.]

>>20869741
i mean yeah
you can't trust a graph like this that much but at the very least it cant be wrong about this

[Anonymous No.]

>>20869741
freqlist 95% target 20053.07 its got a lot of words

[Anonymous No.]

>>20869746
to think that muramasa is one of the hardest VNs yet matt thought it was child's play. no denying his ability.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20869754
yeah rehearsing it and still getting it wrong is a thing

[Anonymous No.]

>>20869754
matt rehearsed it and still couldnt read it no denying his ability

[Anonymous No.]

>>20869757
even natives regularly botch readings. that does not at all indicate he's bad or even not good.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20869135
>>20869141
>>20869148
ok lads thanks for the support, 行っちきます！

[Anonymous No.]

>>20869760
key word: rehearsing

[Anonymous No.]

>>20869760
he looked up all the readings and probably spent like 8 hours doing it over and over to get it right. and he still fucked up. that was his best take.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20869767
reading once != rehearsing

[Anonymous No.]

>>20869772
if you think he didnt spend hours recording that video then you're just another rube to be swindled for his patreon fund

[Anonymous No.]

>>20869760
theres botching readings and then theres matt

spot the difference and u might be a strong nihongoer

>>20869772
sorry he cant be trusted everything he ever made where he tries to assert his nihongo power comes off so fuckin atrocious and tryhard that literally that girl with the pink hair linked eariler is likely better than matt

[Anonymous No.]

>>20869776
he was upfront about what he did which wasn't exactly flattering, so why suspect he's lying?

[Anonymous No.]

not even a question of whether shes better lol. watch the vid of her in her car just talking to the cam. never heard matt speak japanese that wasnt heavily scripted to make him sound like the pretentious tryhard he is.

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seriously just take a minute relax click this no trojans link >>20868896 and have a hearty fuckin lol

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>>20869783
because he has an ego bigger than the size of japan itself and admits that he's "a master at making myself seem better than i am"

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matt is vetted by THREE natives and that's not a joke. firstly there's that one native's video on matt which has been posted before. secondly george said his wife spoke to matt and said his japanese was the real deal. thirdly there's yoga's wife.

also nick has demonstrated his own proficiency but claims matt is better. time to face the facts.

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the tock that follows the tick

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>>20869800
>texthook
Am I the first dekinai to never use one?

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id quite like to link my gf that vocaroo just to see how badly she makes fun of matt for being a fuckin nerd but she'll prob just tell me to fuck off for linking dumb shit

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>>20869805
nice fanfic but u made 1 fatal error

>yogas wife

so u mean matt vetted himself ? what a surprise

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>>20869805
>secondly george said his wife spoke to matt and said his japanese was the real deal
she literally walked away from the conversation because he had a negative level of understanding of 和 and just kept talking like a stupid punk

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>>20869813
here ill help set up ur enjoyable moment

mentoin that its a white kid from the usa who has manga all over his walls and spent a semester going to japanese high school where he ate muchly in the toilet

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>>20869819
whats the lore on this one. need more info

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>>20869819
she walked away because matt was rude and didn't care. that doesn't mean he's not fluent.

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>>20869824
george talks about it in one of his "unplanned podcast"s have fun finding it

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>>20869819
wait i need this link this sounds like the good shit ?? the fuck uve been holding out on me while i give u fuckin top tier shit on the daily ??

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>>20869825
if you can't codeswitch then you don't actually understand how the language works internally

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>>20869617
F/SN is most certainly not harder to read than Subahibi.

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>>20869833
>can't
that's where you're wrong

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i wanna talk to georges wife now and apologize on behalf of matt and express my deepest apologies that he exists and like bow deeply and shit

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>>20869836
imagine getting memed into thinking subahibi isnt just normal japanese
you wont understand it if you're not literate but that doesnt mean the japanese itself is anything special

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imagine thinking the likes of scaids could ever suddenly just elevate himself above the other trash hes written

tho quite a bit of time has gone by at this point so suddenly is wrong word choice but im trying to say it in the moment from back then

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GTk8vKEj49I&t=2h27m55s

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>>20869845
Imagine reading that much into a short simple post. Calm down dude.

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>>20869859

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lmfao jorge ftw

but shit thats right ive said it before that before ur even allowed to learn japanese there needs 2 be a mandatory reigi lesson

i was already puttin that shit in my book whenever i write it but lmao that link ftw

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>>20869647
I never understood why you romanized and/or abbreviated some titles but not others.

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>>20869884
i prolly copy and pasted some dont think too hard about it just pick 1 and play it instead

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>>20869859
Is 頭ごなし the right word for this? I don't know but matt sounds like a real asshat in this clip.

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>>20869888
Oh. Yeah I've got YU-NO lined up next, want to finish it before the anime starts airing.

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>>20869896
dont talk about that yu-no isnt getting an anime thats all a lie and not real and ur making me sad plz no

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lol the point that's made about imagining if arnold schwarzenegger spoke this a perfect english accent is pretty spot on

tfw arnie is not native vetted

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>>20869859
hhhhhhhhhhhholy fuuuuuuuuuuuuucking shiiiiiiiiiiiit this is just the best crystallization of matt's personality

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>>20869909
that was literally about a year ago dude. he's still growing. within the past year he's talked about how he didn't realize how cringy he used to come off and that he's working on it.

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that link is so good i wish we had the actual exchange tho

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how tall is matt? anyone know

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>>20869913
how will mattfags ever recover

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>>20869836
>constant chuuni worldbuilding vs. literal high school setting vocab
F/SN is harder to read, but it certainly isn't harder to understand

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>>20869913
>he didn't realize how cringy he used to come off
so matt is high functioning??

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>>20869920
no but you can tell he's like 5'7" or shorter
>>20869922
?

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>>20869876
whose the dolly of reegi

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>>20869913
it's not about him being cringy i'm not into "cringe" as a concept, it's about him being a generally mean and rude person

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cringys not the right word here

also i think jorges wife wouldnt have been so offended and noped out if it was just clearly established she was working with an autistic child from the getgo

btw maybe some of u are better at nihongo now that u can properly lol at this https://streamable.com/qemt9

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>>20869859
was jooji right that this is on video that sounds like a good moment

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matt is clearly on the spectrum or something. kid is str8 oblivious to the world around him

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>>20869937
even if youre warned about what youre dealing with some people still dont want to

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but then that would just result in an upfront refusal right not a lmao who the fuck is this rude子 *bounces*

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>>20869135
No bias anon here helping you out although ymmv I say 2 hours tops if you like doing it. You better be a weirdo who loves doing it though or you'll be hurting on a soul level long enough. I don't know whether or not it's possible to talk yourself into loving that sort of aquisition. If it is then you'll be fluent pretty quick if you can mix it with real native speak.

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子犬

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子鹿？

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>>20870018
Puppy

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i hope heisig taught me well. here it goes.

child deer?

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post puppers

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>>20870025
貴方の子犬は異形だ

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>>20870029
The first on is "Puppy" or Child/Young Dog, and the first reply is "Child Deer" or "Young Deer" yes.

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>>20870011
鳥の子

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>>20870041
白長須鯨

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ナルト

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>>20869859
this is a perfect metaphor for djt

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How many words do you I need to know in order to read
https://novel18.syosetu.com/n2270dw/

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>>20870034
正

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>>20870054
however many it takes

>>20870053
id like to think our djt boys were raised better than that

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>>20870054
The vast majority of people don’t have the level of reading comprehension or education necessary to really start to approach interpreting and understanding random なろう shit on anything but a surface level.

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>>20870059
拒否

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>>20867884
What deck is that? I didn't know there's J-J deck before, that's awesome. J vocab/grammar with English explanation cripples my nihongo even further.

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>>20870092
Set your yomi to anki up right and you can j-j till your hearts content. I know people are in a rush at the start but setting up your strat right and following through really can help.

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One last tip: don't make anki/yomi cards when you don't know any of the kanji in it. The difference of knowing no kanji in a bigger word to i/n+1 kanji word can be 10 times as hard. Keep it easy and fun.

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>>20870106
Woah thanks.

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georges daughter looks kinda nice desu. Makes me wanna go to japan too if you catch my drift

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they live in las vegas but if you mean you wanna breed with someone like that...that is fucked up

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>>20870147
np, and never do more than 30 words in a day, but do reps every day. Or you'll regret it. i+1 your way to 10k in a year and laugh at n1's :)

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No I mean go there to make a few myself.

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You guys put george in a good light but then I see this https://youtu.be/nUxDNaU_j6M?t=3382 and he loses all of it instantly.

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>>20870181
yeah he's illiterate

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>>20870181
joujii san is a straight hentai perv and he's illiterate, he fits right in here

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i want to read occultic;nine but it ain't on pc
why the FUCK would you make an eroge and not fucking put it on pc in this era

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>>20870215
it aint eroge either innit

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>>20870330
that "bwoing" animation is pretty eroi though ain't it

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手下
下手
god i hate these

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>>20870181
the dude's my hero

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>>20870407
Humn, I guess you tried to memorize kanji and readings instead of vocab.

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>>20870417
No, the reason why it's a particularly cunt of an example is because 下手 has an irregular reading for both kanji, so it's much harder to tie it to the へた sound. For all I care, へ could be either 下 or 手.

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>>20866665
I fukkin did it lads, it took three separate sessions, I read an entire volume today

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>>20870434
おｋ

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>>20870446
What's your answer?

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>>20870446
>>20870468
Didn't mean to link but enjoy the (You)s

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>>20870468
君が奢ってくれるならいいぞ

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>>20870478
深々堪能した。

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[Anonymous No.]

When Jisho says "Male term" does that usually mean it only men should use this term? If so, where's the female version?

[Anonymous No.]

i'm finally able to read my favorite manga
thanks rtk

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>>20870468
>mfw I played this after seeing you post this image
>mfw it's been like 4 years and you're still posting it
God bless you for keeping the torch lit anon

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>>20870529
Wow, that's a Yamato image if I've even seen one. It's too good to be the op of this thread ever again.

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"I've heard that you've learnt some Chinese characters."

"No, no, I've learnt to write all the required characters."

"So you can write all of them?"

"Yes, I can"

They put me in front of a blackboard with some chalk and said, "Write the character for inu."

And I said, "I'm sorry, I don't know what inu means."

"So you've been here for 2 months and you don't know the word for 'dog'?"

I said "Sorry, but I didn't get to vocabulary yet. I learnt the characters through English words."

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>>20870181
Hey Punchline is amazing.

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>>20870579
>>20870585
Dude, there's a typo on your site. It's Kikaijikake no Eve, with a K.

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□にただしいことばをいれて、たんぶんをかんせいさせましょう

>あしたはテストなので□べんきょうします

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>>20870598
Hey, that could be any anon posting sengoku rance

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>>20870598
it's a wiki

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>>20870602
今日も一日

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>>20870603
Yeah, I guess it could.

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俺はできないよ

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https://youtu.be/I0T6Ong0Un8?t=680
anyone know where to get the japanese dictionary nuke is using to read in this video? yomichan won't load the ones from the cor.

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>>20870529
that brings back memories

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>>20870629
俺、できんぞ…*

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>>20870630
yomichan requiers epwing dictionaries to be converted by zero-epwing before they can be imported

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Can anyone tells me where to download sanseido daijirin EPWING? I lurked and found this folder
https://onedrive.live.com/?id=AC31052BF2B8CA11%211937&cid=AC31052BF2B8CA11

Tried download 三省堂大辞林, but yomichan import failed to convert it into zip. I wonder if I made any mistake when converting it. The CATALOGS file seems fine, and in 'the path to dictionary target ZIP file' you just need to choose any folder and type whatever name you want.zip for the output right?

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Wait. You’re telling me kanji can be pronounced in different ways depending on context?????

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>>20867809
そんなこと言われまでもないよ
ダーリンは僕の者なんだから

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>>20870708
kanji are not words

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So how do I actually read sentences? Like I read the kana, but I can never tell when the “spaces” are so everything is one coherent “word”

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>>20870724
trial and error and you get better at guessing
anime also helps

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>>20870724
First, kanji helps a lot since a standard thing is "kanji word then kana particle" or "kanji word then okurigana", so you can somewhat use kanji to distinguish words (with lots of exceptions of course but it's a solid guideline)

Second, as you learn vocabulary it will be obvious, i-adjectives for example will obviously not be a part of a long word

I could go on but I'm already bored

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>>20870709
>僕の者
Nice typo bro

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is it a typo if they meant to do it

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>>20870750
Not really sure why someone would make a typo like that intentionally since it's not funny or anything, it's just wrong.
Then again I guess being pointlessly wrong and dumb on purpose to avoid criticism is a pretty common thing in this thread of spineless losers.

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>>20870758
suggesting they did it intentionally because they thought it was right
because it doesnt look like an easy input mistake but i dont know japanese so maybe i missed something

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>>20870770
Look, typo is just an expansive term for typing something incorrect. What do you want me to say, "nice potentially accidental use of incorrect kanji there"?

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>>20870735
No, I'm just clueless. Hiro is not her 者? Or is she not 僕?

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>>20870777
物

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>>20870775
"nice fuckup buddy" but fair

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>>20870779

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>>20870775
>Look, typo is just an expansive term for typing something incorrect
typos are always strictly accidental. period.

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Senpai is too kind. He should have guessed ignorance is far more likely.

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>>20870810
Language is never "strictly" anything, "period".

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>>20870816
reality is objective
you can't pretend words mean things they don't mean

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>>20870818
Reality and language are not the same thing.
Language is fluid and nuanced. You can never say "this word means this and exactly this, only this, nothing else" because language evolves, changes, has nuance, subtext, and so on. If you look up definitions of "typo", for instance, you'll see varying definitions about a typo being a typographical error, and most don't mention anything about it being strictly accidental. What does this mean, then? It means you've developed your own little private language definition of the word, what it means to you and what subtext it has for you, its connotations, are unique to your mind. But the rest of the world isn't you, and it means something else to them, as factually recorded in dictionaries.

So you have two choices. Huddle into your shell, claim that all he dictionaries are wrong, all the other people are wrong, that language is objective and unchanging and only you know the actual meaning of words... or accept that language is fluid, nuanced, and people have different ideas about what words mean but none of them are objectively wrong because language doesn't work like that.

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>>20870838
tldr

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>>20870838
Dictionaries don't tell you what things actually mean, they just push you in the right direction. Them not being precise enough doesn't mean they're wrong, it just means you're using them wrong.
as someone posting in a language learning thread you should understand this :)

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>>20870857
Ah yes, language is such an objective thing that all written sources about it aren't accurate and merely push you in the general direction of what might be true. Definitely sounds like objectivity to me. Science is for sure a thing that encourages not listing proper information and instead being vague.

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バナナうまい

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>>20870873
You're an idiot, man.

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>>20870181
If I ever get on his reading level I would already be more than satisfied with my progress and so should anyone really.

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>>20870893
Not an argument. Elegant way to admit defeat, however. (lmao)

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>>20870928
It's me, man. That was supposed to be "You're being an idiot", by the way, no hard feelings.

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>>20869038
pretty sure heta is jukujikun

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初めてよろしくくださいです

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does anyone else not mind the dekinais shitposting because it actually make them feel they are making it?

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桃色遊戯

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>>20870054
I just read the prologue without looking anything up and I have 10k vocab, there were only a couple of words I didn't know
but could figure out from context. Grammaticallyy was straightforward but maybe it gets more difficult idk, very fucked up premise anyway..

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>>20870092
it's my own personal deck that I made myself from kanzen master n2 & n1 grammar books

[Anonymous No.]

So for the past 10 years I've tried many many times to learn it (and failed), and by this point i know around a dozen hiragana/katakana, and a couple of kanji.

Even though it is my dream, every time i try, it just seems way too far fetched to even learn the kanas, that's more than i learn in a year.

Flashcards and repeating strokes are just wasted effort, since it all blends together in my head.

I tried duolingo when it got Japanese support, but i shortly abandoned it due to it having many issues.

The only real way for me to learn things is by examples and associations. I know の from movie titles, ゴ from gojira, etc etc.

I'm pretty sure i have a learning disability, is there no point in continuing?

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stop copypasting from reddit to fish for yous

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>>20871357
these people piss me off, you're not a special snowflake you're just a lazy retard who can't sit down to study for even 30 minutes

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じゃあしゃーねえ？

what does this mean?

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I'm too much of a procrastinator to learn on my own. Should I take up classes? Are classes effective in making me get N1? I want to get good enough to translate LNs in 3 years. Is it doable? I'm not dumb but I have a problem sitting down and actually studying, more of a cram it all 12 hours before exam kind of guy and have made it so far. Will it work? Am passionate about it enough that I have learned hiragana and katakana and some kanji on my own without even trying to learn it. Is it worth the money?

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>>20871449
ではしょうがない

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>>20871466
is this another Reddit copy/paste

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>>20871357
>So for the past 10 years
>by this point i know around a dozen hiragana/katakana, and a couple of kanji.
>it just seems way too far fetched to even learn the kanas, that's more than i learn in a year.
>Flashcards and repeating strokes are just wasted effort, since it all blends together in my head.
you aren't even a based retard. you are just a retard.

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>>20871466
in case this is serious, classes are shit and will take you 10 years to get to N1
if you can't study by yourself you don't actually want to learn japanese so just give up

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>>20871449
>じゃーしゃーねーなー

おとこことば

じゃあ、しょうがないなあ

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>>20868209
yes 2hu went over this in cola with sumimi

[Anonymous No.]

New to this general. If I devote myself 3 hours a day to learning Jap by following the guide and spending no money at all how long will it take to get good enough to read Japanese classical literature? I'm not mentally retarded.

[Anonymous No.]

has Matt gone too far?

https://streamable.com/tgcsy

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>>20871449
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RzkpVJUNaJg#t=36

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>>20871579
what do you consider classical literature

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>>20871581

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>>20871584
Dazai or something. Just said classical literature to distance myself from people who just want to read Azumanga daioh but I'm the same I guess.

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>>20871619
>>20871579
probably under 2 years if you actually do 3 hours a day

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>>20871619
>Just said classical literature to distance myself from people who just want to read Azumanga daioh
azumanga daioh is classical literature tho

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>>20871628
I was under the impression of 5 years but if its really 2 then thats amazing.

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>>20871583
かっこE

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i mean it depends what u subject urself to

theres a reason the mareni shit seems so crazy but actually isnt that crazy

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>>20871715
Buzz off dweeb, Japanese eroge fans actually had to make a wiki for Mareni stuff to parse the language and define the terms so they could read it more easily:

http://railseibiya.web.fc2.com/

EGS reviews are littered with people saying his games make their head hurt and are just a pain to read. If that's not "crazy" then nothing is.

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>>20871466
>>20871357
Remember that this is the mindset of the average person starting to learn Japanese.

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>>20871579
>3 hours a day to learning Jap
>good enough to read Japanese classical literature?
>classical literature
10 years give or take

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>>20871619
>>>/int/

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>>20871579
Took Matt 3 or 4 years doing 6 hours of study a day (but only 3 hours of reading) so you could do it.

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>>20871813
Ｎ１なら１ねん

かいわなら３ねん

ふつうのこくごなら１０ねん

じだいものは２０ねん

がんばれおにいちゃん

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if you take longer than 2 years to be able to read dazai osamu you're doing it wrong

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>>20871829
dazai osamu is not classical japanese

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>>20871839
He literally said that's what he means, don't be a retarded autist

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>>20871839
>dazai osamu is not classical japanese
People who don't know the language at all and state their learning goal is reading 'classical' Japanese on 4chan have no idea what that even is anyways. They would be perfectly fine with 20th century literature.

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>>20871807
that doesnt really counter what i said dude also i know that site and trust me i personally dont need a fan site to explain to me what 壊血病 is

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I just don't fucking understand how to read japanese names anymore. Why would you read 春日大社 as kasuga taisha? Why is 江古田 read as ekoda but in 江古田駅 as egota eki? This is total fucking random and i hate this retarded language. Fuck nips

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japanese names

more crazy than the craziest mareni shit

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>>20871829
>>20871839
だざいとかそうせきとか

ゆきちくらいまでは

こぶんじゃないとおもうよ

[Anonymous No.]

たいへんおにいちゃん

ほっかいどうで

じしん

すごいゆれたみたい

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>>20871854
2 nukes was 8 short of 10

[Anonymous No.]

I heard that if I wanted to have a head full of hair, lose weight, get rid of body odor and add a couple inches to my dick this is the thread I go to. Whats the secret guys?

[Anonymous No.]

u still have to do those things independent of this thread but were here to cheer u on

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>>20871891
10k hours of eng subbed anime

[Anonymous No.]

10k hours of mattvsjapan vids

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>>20871807
thanks really useful. never heard of this stuff before! crazy!

[Anonymous No.]

mareni uses too many fuckin similes and metaphors and i just fuckin cant deal with this shit its BUllshIT

[Anonymous No.]

btw post the fuckin tegami

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>>20871933
here

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I really hate hack writers like mareni who concoct shitty pretentious writing gimmicks.

[Anonymous No.]

post baNGERz

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TT5tviXGXhA

[Anonymous No.]

I returned in a long time and Djt is as usual filled with cum guzzling ignorant retards.

[Anonymous No.]

but enough about yourself

[Anonymous No.]

djt isn't that bad and stop acting like it's a distraction

>>20871978
heh

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>>20871957
im a tegami ?

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>>20872000
oh whoops kagami and tegami aren't the same thing...

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>>20872000
それ

かがみ

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>>20871891
two words: FULL IMMERSION

This means you watch all of your anime dubbed and your manga translated. do this for 10+ years to get a feel for the Japanese culture, their outlandish customs and traditions and their backwards and archaic mindset.
Then progress to consume subbed Japanese media for the next 10 years. By then you should be able to recognise individual words and phrases like "onii-chan", "itadakimasu", "tadaima", "muzukashii", "tasukete kudasai" and many others. You will experience your first rush of euphoria.

But don't be fooled, at that point you are only at 49% of your journey to fully unlock and master Japanese. Most, if not all books and guides recommend learning kanji. This is a grave mistake that will - in most cases, lead you to aimlessly linger for years until you give up on your dream out of sheer frustration and desperation.
What you should do instead is learn the ancient Egyptian hieroglyphs until you can read the inner wall writings of the Cheops pyramid effordlessly.
Only THEN will you be fully capable of grasping the concept of kanji and there should be nothing left standing in your way to achieve your dream of mastering the Japanese language.

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>>20872007
へー

そのかがみっていうものを

どうつかうの

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>>20872023

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The typical LN is somewhere around 100k to 150k characters. Sometimes you go down to 50k, sometimes you go up to 250k, but pretty much everything is in the 100k to 150k range. It just so happens that Hanahira! is almost 50k characters long. If we were to, just for example, use this as a unit of measurement, then the typical LN is around 2 to 3 Hanahira!s long, and the really long ones are up to 5. When you look at "real" novels, they usually hit the 100k to 200k range, or 2 to 4 Hanahira!s. Now, when you look at visual novels, things get interesting. You have a massive range of lengths due to the lack of physical restrictions holding the format down, anywhere from 50k characters to around 2,500,000. This is not for the faint of heart. You're probably not going to see all the text in a single one of the longest VNs, but you can easily have 40 Hanahira!s worth of content in a single contiguous story.

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the typical わたしはゲイ

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>>20872100
Is it true that LNs average around 150k characters? I just checked wareya's site and most basic bitch VNs listed there have at least 200k characters.

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i mean this goes for every post itt but ur replying to a bullshitter

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I've been going around the Japanese web from messageboards to shopping reviews to try to study the patterns of punctuation usage of Japanese webusers.
When do you think it's recommended to use punctuation marks if it's used at all conventionally on the Japanese web?

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put commas wherever when u wanna sound like a pretentious epic fag use periods to sternly mark the end of a thought or question quote everything in brackets all the time and just like in english if u use a semicolon u r prolly fuckin up bigtime

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anyone else feel guilty when they listen to the stuff they want to listen to?

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>>20872217
A little bit but I've recently subscribed to a Japanese streamer playing pokemon games and I'm glad I'm able to understand most of what he's saying, although I did have to search up some slang and memes.

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>>20872217
my heart really goes out to all these autistic zoomers suffering from information overload

i hope they can all just be happy in the moment and enjoy things someday

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>>20872217
have none of them considered just watching youtube in japanese

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>>20872286
i think theyre talking about watching youtube in japanese feeling like a waste of time vs anime for some autistic reason

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>>20872286
yea but he feels guilty about it dude c'mon

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>>20872288
doubt

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why can't google translate infer context based on previous sentences

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>>20872290
i think your reading comprehension may be shit if u cant see that. "i feel guilty if i watch something, even if it's just as good in terms of japanese" and talking about his priority shifting to "watching anime" vs "learning japanese" are the big giveaways here

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>>20872290
>>20872288
That is what it's about. They feel guilty about watching Japanese youtube because they can't check off the video in their diaries and brag to their friends about how many shows it took them to get fluent.

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>>20872304
why would i read the entire thread when matt's post is the one that's highlighted
feeling guilty for doing something that is both productive and fun is so insane that i can't comprehend them talking about japanese youtube videos

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>>20872294
there's no rules for when to elide things that are clear from context, or what referents are marking. the algorithm can't tell there's a missing piece of information.

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just lolled thinking about georges wife peacing out while matt imitates an anime character at her

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>>20872319
they're not using an "algorithm" (the japanese->english translator is 100% just a statistical model now) but yes it has no way of figuring out what's going on with how tiny its "memory" is you're right about that

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>>20872315
lol i think you did read it all and just dont wanna sound dumb but even just his post it's obvious they're talking about japanese content. why would matt be talking about keeping track of how many english YT vids he's watched? the context is pretty clear it's about prioritizing certain japanese content.

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how ride or die are u really when it comes to ur japanese learning

https://streamable.com/ay43z

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>>20872340
i dont care enough about what ajatters say to read it all what kind of person do you take me for i read the top line of the first tweet and started typing

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i dont even read the tweets i just figure well since im here i might as well spread the gospel

#10korgay

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Common mistakes you make if you use textbooks to learn Japanese:
>skipping the practice
If you think you "save time" by just reading tasks and not answering them yourself, you will get fucked later on after you realized that you were a lazy fuck.
>only reading grammar explanations once
A textbook is for learning. Learning means repeating. If you just try to go the fast way, you will never learn Japanese.
>only use textbooks for basic Japanese (for example Genki I and II), but not more advanced textbooks like tobira
If you use textbooks, you have to use them until you have reached the advanced level. Japanese is too hard to master with just basic Japanese knowledge. After a few months you will quit Japanese if you have only learned basic Japanese, because you won't make much progress.
>skipping the audio
Also use everything the textbooks include. Only skip audio if you are studying Japanese in college or university (because you have a teacher).
>don't using Anki for vocabulary
Always use Anki to learn vocabulary. Pretty much every textbook has a pre made Anki deck.
>going back
Always remember that once you have really finished a textbook, never look back. You have to progress not stagnate. Only look back to remember grammar points.
>not learning rtk before using textbooks
It is HIGHLY advised to finish rtk before starting using textbooks. Every textbook which ONLY tries to teach you Kanji belongs into the trash. Use textbooks to learn everything except how to learn Kanji. If you know all Kanjis (thanks to rtk), learning how to spell them is extremely easy (especially because most Kanji have a pattern).
>only using textbooks
Textbooks are the "core" of your learning. But try to read/watch/listen to other Japanese stuff like animes as much as you can. Sure, finishing basic textbook like Genki I and II are pretty mandatory before understanding anything, but if you combine textbooks with other stuff, you will be "fluent" in Japanese even faster.
>don't investing enough time into learning Japanese
If you don't have the time to learn Japanese, don't learn Japanese at all. Every person who thinks "you can't read any Japanese sentence if you used textbooks" is just someone who either never used a good textbook, or has only skipped through the pages. There is a reason Genki I alone takes half a year to "master" if you have to learn Japanese in the little free time you have.

The word "textbook" is misleading anyway. In theory a website with a full textbook like stile from basic to advanced Japanese would be as good as the old school textbooks, but right now there is no website. The best thing you get is downloading the .pdf data of textbooks from websites. Also you need rtk and Anki to really learn Japanese.

But if you ask yourself "why are most people quitting if you just need textbooks, Anki, and rtk to learn Japanese?" The answer is simple: It takes a lot of fucking time and effort. It's like saying "you just have to do sports to have a great body." Even if you know "the best way", this still doesn't mean that you will do it.

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could u have put this

>Also you need rtk and Anki to really learn Japanese.

at the top of ur post so i could have saved myself from reading the rest of it and maybe thinking u werent completely retarded ? thx

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>>20872362
i stopped grammar and structured study after half of tae kim and anki after about 2k words and just read porn for the next couple years and 今ボクは一番ゲイな外人

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>>20872217
I can't relate to this taritomo one bit

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>put time into something to get good at it
groundbreaking

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>>20872385
stories like this give me hope cuz i hate structured study but learning without a guide feels frustrating at times

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やっとボクは一番ゲイな外人になってきたぜ

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>>20871933
>>20871957
That is a すがたみ you bakas

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wow very self explanatory term lol maybe most of japanese is actually that easy

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btw i dont think u can safely assume that so かがみ is still better だと思います

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>>20872466
no it isnt lol. 姿見 are full length mirrors

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>>20872488
For japanese people this is a full length mirror so I am right

[Anonymous No.]

get outta my thread before i beat ur butt

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Btw that was irony I am not actually racist.

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>>20872496
if anything they're only gonna be able to see the top of their head because it's clearly attached to a wall, probably at a typical wallmirror height

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>>20872509
i am

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>>20872447
Show us proof by filling out >>20871554 with your rl face.

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https://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm9874660

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Does anyone have a scan of A Dictionary of Japanese Idioms by William de Lange? It's not on the cornucopia

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>>20872575
nose song?

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>>20872594
humming m8

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>>20872594
lmao even when japanese is self explanatory u still have this guy come and fuck it up

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Is "Why so much / so many?" 何でこんなに? Am I able to use そんなに/あんなに interchangeably in this sentence?

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>>20872577
that vid is so good

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>>20872595
holy shit so i got it?
>>20872600
but i didn't fuck it up. thanks to heisig i nailed it.

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>>20872617
i kind of doubt you actually knew what it was referring to (and therefore u got nothing) but yes those are indeed the kanji for nose and song

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>>20872618
what else could nose song refer to?

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>>20872623
i dont know why wouldnt you just say humming if u knew what it meant

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a childrens game like kancho

stop pretending like u drew the connection urself and be real its the first step to actually learning japanese dude

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>>20872629
i was thinking more about how i could show that heisig helped me but you're right that i didn't make it obvious i knew.

but the moral of the story is we should all do RTK. you don't even need to know japanese to read.

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> 「何すればいい？」
Could someone help a brainlet out and tell me what this means? I understand each part individually, but I can’t figure out how to put it together.

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its better to know japanese so u dont have to read than the other way around objectively

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>>20872647
can u just watch anime for like 1000 more hours with eng subs and then come back to this one

thx

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>>20872647
try googling this + 英語

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>>20872647
you objectively dont understand each part if you cant put it together.

"what" "if do" good" ??? very difficult to figure out the meaning here

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What books are you reading? I tried reading 古典部 but gave up at 66% through cause I realized I was not really learning good vocab for my level and was basing most of my comprehension off of having seen the anime. Instead I went on to read Penguin Highway, which is the perfect book for where I am at cause it's written by like a 4th grader.

Also why does時をかける少女have so little kanji count?

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>>20872647
in most cases it means "which of these bitches should I fuck?"

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>>20872647
i think it's "what should [i] do" but i've only been reading for 4 months which isn't as effective as grinding grammar so i could be wrong.

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>>20872647 >>20869111

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reminder even that one redditor who failed the n5 twice moved to japan and passed the n1
you have no excuse

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and then

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>>20872681
It's impossible to not learn any language in the world, as long as you're actually trying. Even if you don't get explanations for anything a billion times, at some point your pattern recongition engine just takes over.

That's much better than for a lot of other things really, the only way to fail is to stop.

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language is the one thing u actually dont even have to try at to become good

its literally made for the low iq underachieving unwashed masses

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>>20872690
tell that to nuke

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someone post nuke chans recent score of about 200 on the jcat lmao

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>>20872699

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https://forum.koohii.com/thread-6742-post-254171.html#pid254171

the funny thing is this sounds like he improved a lot haha

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o shit i didnt even notice he posted his past scores too..

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man he looks like hell in that pic

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>>20869619
>worried about security
>using chrome

laffin @ u

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>>20872696
From the limited things I've seen on this guy, there seems to be two things wrong with what he's doing.

He's spending roughly 70% of his actual study time fretting about methods and not actually looking at the language. With this he's in good company on this board at least.
And the remaining time he invents these weird fucking toy exercises he seems to have made up instead of actually just using the fucking language.
And even he is still making progress, even though it's painfully slow.

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>>20872651
I’d rather not wait another 1,000 hours

>>20872656
>Do what do I do?
Okay

>>20872658
>objectively
ESL? Also “what if do good” can be interpreted in many ways.

>>20872666
Thank you


Followup question: If it means “what should I do”, couldn’t it be said as “nani suru ka?”

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>>20872704
>2017-02 - 171
>2018-05 - 176
you have to admire his persistence

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>>20872604
please respond

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>>20872715
the fact u described it as "waiting" another 1000 hours signifies u are really not gonna make it

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>>20872708
im not worried about security but im on university internet and it's completely blocked. im too lazy to use openDNS or something

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>>20872720
why would u think this is interchangeable theres a reason these words exist come on use ur noggin squiddo

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>>20872733
I just want to ask some guy on HelloTalk why he has 8 cellphones. Help a retard out. I tried for myself and came up with 何でこんなに携帯をもってる？ but even my shit for brain can tell that sentence is wrong and sounds unnatural.

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30 minutes before i can stop reading this boring shit for the day.

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>>20872741
rude question. learn some manners first

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>>20872741
just fuckin say 携帯いっぱいですね

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>大大大好物
Nice

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>>20872715
>>Do what do I do?
>Okay
you were supposed too look in weblio

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>>20872741
ふざけるな何言ってるんだよお前信じると思うか笑う

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>>20872743
>>20872748
Yikes. Guess I'll just stick to helping Japs with their language homework and not learn anything myself.

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>>20872763
why dont you ask the fuckin jap youre speaking to then you lil bitch ass nibba lmao. just gonna let him ask all the questions and do his homework like a nerd?

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>>20872763
guess u will

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makes me sad how mean people are being to this guy who just wants to connect with a nip

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My god rtk is so fucking bad. The concept of remembering kanji as "primitives" using mnemonics and disregarding kangxi is good because you'll be able to write and not mistake similar-looking kanji for one other is pretty good, BUT
- Using an English keyword for each character is the dumbest shit ever. It simply adds more shit to learn with close to nothing in return. Not only are some keywords made up for the sake of the method and don't convey the character's meaning(s) at all, assuming it actually does convey a "proper" meaning only knowning a single meaning is worthless 95% of the time when learning vocab because a lot of characters can have much more than a single meaning, and vocab more than often disregards the components' meanings completely or partially, or at least it's hard to infer the meaning. If anything, I'd go as far as saying that mapping a single meaning to a character can actually be detrimental because it can be error-inducing.
- Knowing readings is actually much more reliable than meanings when it comes to coming accross unfamiliar words if you're familiar with the language. Context is a much powerful tool than wild guesses based on (more often than not incorrect) "meanings".
- The story model heisig uses isn't vivid at all. There's literally NO PROOF that remembering a stupid story over time is easier on your brain/time than bruteforcing characters. Even when you do come up with your own stories. At the end of the day it's all just unproven shit that "seems" to work for "some" people.

The one good point of RTK is it does help preventing the mind haze you feel when trying to write out characters you know how to read from memory. I wish there was a real method to differenciate/write similar-looking characters that didn't consist in making the same mistake 20 times and hoping that you'll get it right the next time.

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he fuckin yikesed me dude i dont give a fuck

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>>20872785
now this is an example of a good post just had to read the first sentence nod in agreement and post this reply

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>>20872785
fundamentally misunderstanding the point of rtk but okay go off king

[Anonymous No.]

What does 系 mean in this context? I've been seeing it mentioned alot just in the two first chapters. They aren't real sisters if that has anything to do with it

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>>20872801
read more

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>>20872794
Well then go ahead tell me what the point or rtk fundamentally is then

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>>20872785
i agree RTK is shit but
>There's literally NO PROOF that remembering a stupid story over time is easier on your brain/time than bruteforcing characters
it's true it's not proven but in my experience visualizing components and making stories made it so much easier to remember them in 2 minutes that i severely doubt you can remember as many of them in the same amount of time through bruteforce. i mean i would literally make and imagine the story for 2 minutes and then remember how to precisely write it in the long term, only writing it a few more times within the next month and then remembering it for months after that.

that said, you shouldn't do RTK for other reasons you described. so bruteforce away.

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lots of shitposts/reddit copies in this thread but that jorge video was cash, props to whoever spent 3 hours of their life watching that to find that epic anti-matt gem

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彼女はクラスの中で歌がいちばんうまかった。
She was the best singer in the class.

Shouldn't 歌 be 歌手 in this?

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>>20872816
it should be 一番強い

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>>20872801
http://lmgtfy.com/?s=g&q=妹系とは

>>20872816
lol go ahead and just hot swap em and just see what happens

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>>20872816
it's literally " her songs were the most skillful". if it was as you suggest it would be "her singer was the most skillful in the class", which obv doesn't make any sense at all.

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>>20872813
i watched it because i like george and matt

[Anonymous No.]

anything can make sense when you're trying to understand a language you don't know.

[Anonymous No.]

This thread is a fucking joke. Genuine questions followed by troll answers and unhelpful pricks. Goodbye.

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>>20872824
Ah okay I see the logic now. Thank you.

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dont let the tobira hit u in the ketsu on the way out lmao

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>>20872830
i thought u left

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>>20872830
if u can see the logic there imagine all the logic u would see watching eng subbed anime for 10000 hours

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>>20872834
That was another guy. Literally about 3 people gave my question responses.

[Anonymous No.]

ppl always ask dumb questions and then complain when no-one wants to answer them. very strange behaviour.

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>>20872835
I'll make sure it's all slice of life too.

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>>20872842
nah u gotta diversify ur genres my ninja

[Anonymous No.]

今日一日死にたい

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>>20872845
Slice of life AND harem anime. Got it

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>>20872840
it wows me every day that they are always just fuckin horrendous but its just another symptom that the guides and u tubers and all that shit do not help

but u know what does help

*hurls a entire spindle of fansubbed vcds at ur face*

>>20872852
love hina is a good start

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tixx1gWUu4g

[Anonymous No.]

btw ill gauge how good yalls japanese is by which love hina girl u think is best

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>>20872847
心中やりましょう

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>>20872858
I watched Love Hina so long ago I barely remember any of it. I recall it being good though.

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>>20872879
same i actually rewatched it recently on my projector and had this really weird but sick moment where i realized i was finally that old man watching childrens cartoons and i didnt give a fuck cuz love hina still owns

anime will never come close to being that good again

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seriously love hina of all things take any random episode and just examine the writing and ull see immediately how bad things are in modern anime in comparison and ull ask urself why did they stop doing good cool things and now just do the same old bad things

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>>20867884
Ive never actually seen tsu used in actual content but Ive seen it so many times in yomichan. also its pretty obvious in that context. Ive never taken a n test but I dont think they really care if you know exactly what each grammar point means.

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>>20870468
whats this from

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>>20872911
dude check 1 of the other replies to that post and if u still cant figure it out it wasnt meant to be

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>>20872904
>Ive never actually seen tsu used in actual content but Ive seen it so many times in yomichan
what does this even mean. i dont understand your post at all in fact.

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>>20872891
Boomer jamal vs Zoomer ajatter who wins in a nihonjingo fight

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also chiming in to say i dont know the diff between つ and a fuckin hole in the wall here

>>20872928
why fight when i can just show u anime from a better time and build u up

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>>20872924
ive never seen it actually used in context even though ive read a lot. maybe its a really formal thing. I always see this when Im looking through yomichan thats how I know it. you never going to learn japanese needing that much explanation

[Anonymous No.]

lol absolute state worthy

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>>20872955
so r u saying that you literally yomichan over every single mora when you read my friend, and then read the definitions for each kana multiple times? because it really really sounds like that's what you do

just giving you the chance to clear this whole thing up buddy

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>>20872970
its impossible to scan single mora without the whole word coming up. have you ever scrolled down? Ive only seen it a couple of times. it stands out.
>>20872918
I found it by looking up the names plus visual novel https://vndb.org/v15870

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>>20872999
this reply combo surely puts you in the running for lowest IQ post of the thread

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>>20872901
I thought it was just a generic harem comedy with a ton of ecchi so i never gave it a look

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>>20873009
I know more Japanese than you

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>>20873014
its not a ecchi show its just what was seemingly back then another generic harem romcom but holy shit its aged so well

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>>20873017
you definitely dont b/c i dont actually have to use yomichan to read ever lol, let alone to find out what つ means

[Anonymous No.]

u wanna know the fucked up thing i never heard of texthookers till someone told me about them and then i was like oh huh thatll help me look up words i cant read faster cuz i can just copy paste

then i found djt and realized texthookers were actually made by satan

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>>20872785
I agree with you but
>There's literally NO PROOF that remembering a stupid story over time is easier on your brain/time than bruteforcing characters.
Is blatantly false. Our brains have a much easier time recalling something if there’s some sort of visual stimuli associated with it. In memory competitions, competitors associate the things they need to memorize with objects or places, and then imagine a story that takes them through all of them. There should be a Ted talk about it somewhere.

Otherwise, yeah, Heisig’s methods are worthless and it pisses me off that he’s so insistent on using ONE ENGLISH KEYWORD for everything. I dropped RTK at around ~400 because it wasn’t helping me any.

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>>20873022
wow you never dont know a kanji or reading epic my dude. I give up your so smart you also win this internet fight too.

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>>20873042
thanks i appreciate your gracious defeat

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>>20873040
i like how you somehow agree that it actually works as a memorisation technique but is also simultaneously useless. do you think heisig should use a japanese word for the keyword instead? except you wouldn't be able to make a story out of that, would you? cause you dont know japanese yet dumbass.

[Anonymous No.]

why do japanese to english dictionaries insist on having the definition in english! so fucking useless! im trying to learn JAPANESE!

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>>20873053
You wakarunai desu.

Associating kanji with an unfitting english keyword is worthless. You can remember it easily with mnemonics but it won’t do you any good when it comes time to learn actual fucking japanese

[Anonymous No.]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Md0jjLB6wuk#t=52

[Anonymous No.]

>自画自賛
Reading it like じりょうじしつ. I'm a comfirmed dekinai of this thread.

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>>20873059
yes it will. your brain remembers things much, much easier if you already have something to associate the information with. think of it like a programming array, you have the entry "食 food" in your head already. the only thing you have to do to learn japanese is add extra information to what you already know like たべる・たべもの・しょくじ, and your brain will remember it much quicker and easier than if you simply tried to learn it all at once.

it's like remembering dates and shit, it's obviously much easier for your brain to associate certain dates with events because it already has some concept to attach it to.

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also 'unfitting' is basically a strawman. there's like 10 heisig keywords that aren't very good and the rest are fine, and there's literally nothing stopping you from altering the keywords if you dont like them. it's a methodology and order for remembering the kanji, the keywords dont need to be exactly as he says as long as the order is maintained.

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oh sorry im bad at dates both the numerical kind and the kind u do with girls

[Anonymous No.]

>cause you dont know japanese yet dumbass.
a beginner should never learn to write using RTK. and if a beginner wants to do lazy kanji for help with recognition they should only do some of the kanji because of diminishing returns.

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>>20873071
自業自得

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>>20873084
theres no such thing as girls silly

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>>20873111
Yea I was thinking about this 四字熟語 before and after making the misread mistake.

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>>20873108
i dont advocate doing rtk to learn writing off the bat but it's ignorant to say that having the kanji floating around in your head before you even start learning isnt gonna be helpful to memorising vocab and shit. it's essentially down to opinion as to what level of investment is worth it to get to that stage. lazy kanji is prob enough.

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>>20873129
>it's ignorant to say that having the kanji floating around in your head before you even start learning isnt gonna be helpful to memorising vocab and shit
it is gonna be helpful. it should just be stressed that most people won't find the investment to be worth it. and the minority that do think it's worth it are just delusional for overestimating the utility of RTK past the first 500 or 1000 kanji.

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>>20869617
>axanel so much harder than layline
WHAT? I thought it was supposed to be an easy first read

[Anonymous No.]

Is the あ in 姉ちゃん silent?

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Is the DoJG Anki deck a good substitute for a grammar guide i.e. Tae Kim/Imabi?

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>>20873182
not really because it's not in any particular order. just goes through the grammar alphabetically cuz it's a dictionary.

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>>20873165
theres no あ in 姉ちゃん wtf are u on about

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>>20873187
Well it has 3 tiers, corresponding to the books.

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Since this threads been p shit lets talk abt the biggest lols you've ever had here mine is when jamal posted the first scene from elfen lied and said "me vs noobs itt also when she shoots the pen at that guy i say kore wa pen desu"

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>>20873191
大丈夫です

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>>20873165
https://jisho.org/search/%E5%A7%89%E3%81%A1%E3%82%83%E3%82%93

time for another game of "how could i have avoided a dumb question by just pasting the word into the dictionary"

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>>20873195
yea but you're still gonna learn を on like the last 20 out of 200 cards of the basic deck or w/e. doesnt sound very efficient.

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Any good resources for practicing conversational Japanese online? I can more or less understand casual native speech, but when it comes to producing it I draw blanks and end up defaulting to English and it's really awkward.

I have a trip to Japan coming up in a few months and I'd like to brush this issue up, as much as possible.

Are skype "pals" and paid Japanese teachers the only way?

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Watch this zenin : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jhAefgiVKrY
You will probably find it somewhere as a sexual reference so be prepared!

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>>20873215
dont worry no-ones gonna say anything to you in japan except 袋は要りますか？ anyway

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>>20873202
I started doing that around 3 years ago, finished the first 400 cards (almost up to the advanced book), the entire RTK deck (with kanji face and keyword back, doesn't seem as a good strategy in hindsight) , and the first 2000 words in Core 2K+6k, then I got overwhelmed with uni coursework and other bullshit, got to 4,000 backed up anki reviews and quit learning Japanese altogether in frustration.

Trying to rethink my strategies here.

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>>20873222
ppl dont believe me when i say they are just savages on a little island

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>>20873222
absolutely barbarous display. would never see the british playing such an aggressive sport. cricket only chums! tally ho!

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>>20873233
try reading some fukin manga for kids instead of wasting your life in anki

[Anonymous No.]

>>20873227
Still, I do want to improve it.

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>>20873038
calm ur judgment
great power great responsibility
just cuz the hottest new hooker on the market bing translates every sentence by default doesnt mean u cant hook responsibly

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>>20873222
To be clear the word is 棒倒し

[Anonymous No.]

it was pretty clear 我が友よ

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>>20873139
reerain is easier but azanar is more engaging which makes it easier to actually finish also that chart is just shit maybe its swayed by some of the infodumps that arent critical
small warnin that the intro and menu might scare u but the vn is ez

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Emergency News
Thank you to all my viewers for choosing this space to be where you study Japanese. A lot of you may be wondering when more new and exacting things are going to appear on the website, but unfortunately, I had to be taken to the ER recently due to medicine complications. After some time has passed, I've learned that the road to recovery for my newly found condition will be long, and it's still unsure how much it will affect me financially. As such, concerns for medical expenses are at the top of my mind. I remain optimistic for the future that a cure can be found for what I have, but if any of you are able to help in anyway possible make it so that I can stress less on finances, I would be forever grateful.

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>>20873274
>exacting things
I thought at first this was a misspelling of exciting. But now I can mine a new english word! May god protect imabi sensei.

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lol imagine the content mill running dry so u pretend to have medical problems and ask for donations for doing nothing lol

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>>20873285
Anyone know his backstory, like how did he live past 5 years or so in abject poverty trying to finish his perfect Japanese grammar guide and now he's literally dying and can't afford health insurance.

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>>20873222
i saw this on the reddit frontpage a few days ago

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https://www.imabi.net/apps/donations/

sad times when matt is getting 3k a month for talking about his acid flashbacks. at least this dude actually put some effort in lol

[Anonymous No.]

the powers of being native vetted

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thats it im making a patreon

[Anonymous No.]

who the fuck is matt

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>>20872868
Shinobu and Motoko

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>>20873314
you picked 2 and still fucked up this badly

ur a 250 on the jcat

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>>20873324
No way dude, I don't understand how you can pick anyone but these two. I guess Naru is an acceptable choice too, but come on.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20873324
does love hina have a tsundere thatd be my pick score me

[Anonymous No.]

Ok thank you for the recommendation, I'm going to download Love Hina as soon as I get home and watch it with no subtitles. I will let you all know what my opinion of the girls is after I finish watching. I'm looking forward to finding out my Jcat score!

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>>20873344
dude theres so many more fuckin top tiers ill list all of them so u can realize how bad u fucked up

mutumi
kitune
the elder su
whats her name from the ova
im old now so haruka is top tier
tama chan

like how do u fuck this up also naru is only like high mid tier

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>>20873346
id rate u as needing to watch more eng subbed anime

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>>20873387
how can i really understand their true feelings with eng subs

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>>20873392
u can worry about hitting the homeruns after u enter the batters box

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>>20873350
i prolly wouldnt rate u with a jcat score i only did it there because it produced results as u saw

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>>20873381
I thought we were only talking about main characters. You're right, Haruka is good too, and I also like Motoko's sister, but it seems you and I are just irreconcilable.

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>>20873412
well 2 of them r mains fwiw also look the best i can do is say shinobu is solid mid tier

[Anonymous No.]

btw i think i understand u

u just like the girls that are the most "japanese"

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>>20873435
That might be a factor subconsciously for Motoko but I don't see how it applies to Shinobu.

[Anonymous No.]

savage

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>>20873460
reserved and goes with the flow doesnt express herself enough all seems pretty par for the course here when it comes to the idealized japanese girl i think

[Anonymous No.]

What are you guys reading currently?

By the way how can some people say manga isn't reading when there is manga as hard as tsugumomo?

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>>20873484
i hope you didnt choose that as a representation of difficulty, because you may have exposed thyself and answered your own question simultaneously

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>>20873484
I need to start eating that manga for the epic naked girls.

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>>20873484
playing the other side today eh manga isnt reading guy

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>>20873490
It's far from being representative.
But I won't post a page to prove how difficult it is here as I know you guys can be pretty obnixious at reconizing the difficulty of something.

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>>20873507
only thing u did here was make urself look worse i hope u know

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>見惚れるっていうのはこういうことなんだろう。

I'm a patient man but this is a bit much sentence without kanji for me. Would somebody be so kind as to deciver everything after 見惚れる?

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>>20873507
you picked that thinking it was hard and now you're backtracking. why would you make that post and then not pick something difficult? absolutely exposed!

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>>20873518
i cant even deciver the enligh part of ur post

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>>20873518
"so this is what it means to 見惚れる" there u go

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>>20873507
what's even the point at appearing like somebody who is capable of reading difficult Japanese when you are posting ANONYMOUSLY

Seriously what's the point. I can barely read shit so what.

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>>20873518
Here you go bud.
見惚れるって云うのは斯く言う事なんだろう
Hope this helps.

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i can read most of the shit and the stuff i cant i dont sweat it even if someone else here can

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>>20867781
Where can I find text-only beginner reading material, with furigana? I couldn't find that on the guide - if it's there, just call me dumb.

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>>20873524
languages are hard

>>20873525
...what? I'm pretty sure you're mistaken.

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>>20873484
imo the sooner you jump into nothing but text the better but manga is ftw and you dont have to leave it behind
need a healthy balanced diet of media

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>>20873534
This is actually very helpful, thank you.

Still lost on the 2 いうs with different kanji now though. Also still not grasping the meaning of the phrase.

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>>20873534
thats still not enough kanji and thus inefficient

try this 告诉你被祝福是件好事

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>>20873540
dont backchat to your senpai

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>>20873520
>>20873512
Yeah you right I'm just some dekinai, tsugumomo is fucking easy.

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>>20873554
It was a joke but I feel bad that you thanked me for it so I'm going to refer you to >>20873525

>>20873556
That's too much for me, I haven't read Dies irae and KKK yet.

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yea ur right im just some dekinai astelight is fuckin ez

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>>20873567

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>>20873492
I'm still fucking waiting for the 23rd volume.

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The hardest thing about Tsugumomo is my dick when I read it

[Anonymous No.]

i watched the anime and thought it was pretty good maybe i should read that someday ive been lookin for a good manga to *snorts* read

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一つの言語は全てを統べ、
一つの言語は全てを見つけ、
一つの言語は全てを捕らえて、暗闇の中に繋ぎとめる。

[Anonymous No.]

負担を分かち合う

[Anonymous No.]

learning technical terms through evangelion
noice

[Anonymous No.]

一つの言語は全てを捕らえて、退屈

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>>20873613
挿入完了 is the only technical term you need

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>>20873580
>skimpy yukata

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/blog/ time
Ever since i got a gf 6 days ago i've lost all motivation to study japanese
I'm now starting to wonder about whether i've been lying to myself all along and the only reason i studied japanese was because i wanted to bang japanese girls.
But that can't be it, right? No ones libido can motivate one to learn an entire language 4+ hours a day.

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>No ones libido can motivate one to learn an entire language 4+ hours a day
Through dick, unity

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>>20873484
lol

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>>20873623
着たいか

>>20873628
lmnfao

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>>20873628
just because you fucked a girl doesnt make her your gf anon

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>No ones libido can motivate one to learn an entire language 4+ hours a day.
First time?

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>>20873628
i had a good time laughing at this post

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Yo why do you guys seem to spend so much time learning Japanese and still struggle so much. Is it cause ur Americans ?

[Anonymous No.]

captains log stardate 42069.69

going on day 69 of having a gf and im starting to question my motivations for learning japanese

originally i just wanted to bang japanese girls but now im not so sure

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>>20873693
most only spend the time shitposting
some spend it all on meme methods
cant say whats wrong with the rest

[Anonymous No.]

>tfw get paid 32 USD hrly to jus read nhk articles all day and grind anki

Feels good being a STEM nigga.

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>>20873688
what's there to laugh about

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こうなるとわかっていれば, 親身になって身体の世話なぞ...
what exactly does 世話なぞ mean

[Anonymous No.]

Why won't it fucking wooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooork

[Anonymous No.]

hopefully that guy will be able to play axanael someday

[Anonymous No.]

Should my procedure with animelon be to try to understand dialogue raw, then with japanese subs and if I still don't get it with english?

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>>20873720
That guy is pretty frustrated

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>>20873713
could be an idiosyncratic way of saying など if the character pronounces other things weird as well

[Anonymous No.]

oh no

[Anonymous No.]

am i gimping myself hard by not going through all the autism of studying Anki's algorithm and setting up morph man and all that other shit?

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>>20873741
Can you think for yourself for once? Why do you keep asking this retarded shit?

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言う　ーーーー＞　言わなくちゃいけませんでした
How did this happen Japan?

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>>20873748
shut up nerd

[Anonymous No.]

learning japanese through animation~

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>>20873749
This form of redditesque speech is acceptable only when potato jason does it.

[Anonymous No.]

云うべき

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>>20873715
if youre using locale emulator try actually changing locale instead
if youre using a crack try just mounting the disc
aint got anything else for you

[Anonymous No.]

またね、「ｄｊｔ」。

[Anonymous No.]

>>20873749
言わ
なく
ちゃ
いけ
ません
でした

[Anonymous No.]

>>20873790
また明日です

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>>20873741
it's a waste of time
installing that add-on that turns the answer buttons into know/don't know instead of giving you four options might be a good idea though

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>>20873741
just go tot he last page of the MIA article on low key anki and use those settings, it's not hard. morphman is only for sentence cards

[Anonymous No.]

My uncle just bought a house in Nagoya

He's cool with me moving in after I finish uni next August and living rent free. Should I do it? I was thinking about trying to befriend some of those right wing dudes who blare shit over vans and jus chilling with them to learn Japanese. Only problem is I'm non East Asian/non white .

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>>20873715
>winbot10
too bad there is no Japanese equivalent of "you dun goofed"

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>>20873848
are you a poo

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>>20873848
sounds like a fun opportunity

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>>20873628
you're a normie now, there is no way you could do something so autistic as studying Japanese any more.

[Anonymous No.]

Is pausing an anime and reading the subtitles considered reading?

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>>20873856
Close enough I guess.

[Anonymous No.]

and besides technical terms, suzuhara is Oosakan
noice

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>>20873848
yea im sure the extreme right wing who absolutely hate all foreigners would get along well w/ a curry muncher

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>>20873880
No, but pausing and going to the corresponding manga page to read what they actually said since there are no jap subtitles is.

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>>20873848
You know you have to work to be able to live in Japan for a prolonged period of time? Longest tourist visa is a few months innit

[Anonymous No.]

Is it true?

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>>20873852
never stopped me from enjoyin eroge

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>>20873936
yea its cuz u have to stop constantly

this is why u want 10000 hours of eng subbed anime and stuff w. furigayna

[Anonymous No.]

>>20873852
u can use my mainstay for this type of situation

あちゃー

[Anonymous No.]

Why does tae kim have 2 different guides on his site? What one is bst to study with?

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>>20873930
yea not looking to stay more than a few months, mostly jus gonna be using the time to apply for jobs back home.

>>20873918
I'm thinking bout going up to them and telling them they are based and spout some shit bout Yamato superiority. Maybe throw in some shit about how I'm jus tryna observe and not fuck their women.

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His "complete guide" is incomplete and his other one is complete

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>>20873968
complete guide didnt even catch up to the original grammar guide before tae tae stopped writing

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>>20873973
id like to see u tell a jp person who is not in tune at all with western memes and internet shit that they are based

genuinely

[Anonymous No.]

based tae kim getting hate from jealous kiddos but doesn't give a fuck

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>>20873977
So dont use the complete one? Just the plain grammar guide the

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>>20873973
better approach would be to say yamato superiority is why you want to take one of their women home with you

[Anonymous No.]

best approach would be to not pester folks like a retard lest u end up like our boy nicky

[Anonymous No.]

Stop using 'lest'

[Anonymous No.]

i hope that one nerd is around to make the next thread because i hate making them

[Anonymous No.]

use 'lest' it makes you sound 115 IQ minimum.

[Anonymous No.]

maybe its time i make a thread its been a while

what number are we gonna be on next 69?

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>>20873991
if ur gonna fo pa u might as well do it with intent
real prob with nicky is he didnt even understand it

[Anonymous No.]

imagine literally complaining to ur department head or whatever that this girl u liked and thought liked u but just wanted u 2 pay for pussy is prostituting it up all over the place and the guy laughs and goes yah but isnt she good lol

[Anonymous No.]

and then feeling utterly helpless u are then ousted by every1 around u lmao

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>>20874055
I feel ashamed to know exactly what you're talking about.

[Anonymous No.]

if theres anything to learn in these threads its this

dont slut shame and dont try to fuck with some1s hustle

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>>20874058
sounds like one of those nightmares where youre in class and you suddenly realize you have no pants on
>>20874066
whats shameful about hearin a good story

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>>20873936
Wait how do you learn vocab then

[Anonymous No.]

>>20874093
u can either cripple ur readin speed or cripple ur vocab whats it gonna be

[Anonymous No.]

>>20874093
it just happens

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>>20874093
by only looking up some words some of the time, particularly ones that stand out to you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20874096
u dont have to box urself into this corner at all ever at any point in ur nihongo career

[Anonymous No.]

>>20874101
solid advice but you can also just look up as much as you feel like lookin up and relax and enjoy the eroge
>>20874104
joodan

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>>20874093
don't take advice from an example sentence from a book written before pop-up dictionaries and the djt library existed.

[Anonymous No.]

Finally beat Dies Irae after 8 months of reading. Guess that means I've conquered Japanese, huh? Ask me anything, Dekinai.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20874144
what was it about

[Anonymous No.]

>>20874144
havent seen this chart in a while

[Anonymous No.]

What's the fastest known time someone became proficient in nihongo?

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

imagine if u just read that book instead of did other retarded shit lol

[Anonymous No.]

I was going to use this for the op but I think people would get too angry.

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>>20874201
remember what happened last time somebody read a book by marx?

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>>20874201
Huge font:
>SPEAK JAPANESE IN
90
>90
90
>90
90
>DAYS!
Tiny font at the bottom:
>Volume I

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>>20872696
>>20872699
>>20872702
>>20872704
>>20872706
>>20872707
>>20872717
You guys are dicks. Completely correct, but still dicks. Don't change.

>>20872710
Completely correct. I made more progress in the last 4 months of last year than I during two years making basic level decks on Memrise (which really burnt me out half of the time). There's no secret to the progress either as it was just learning more vocabulary (those JLPT Tango decks are legit), and reading a lot more (thanks DJT).

I'm not embarrassed taking time making shit that's been useful for other people (given out the JLPT Tango decks to almost 200 people, and they come back for later levels). I am embarrassed at the time spent making shit that wasn't useful or went to waste (Memrise again since they're pulling an iKnow. Dozens of hours wasted to make courses that take minutes to make in Anki).

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>>20874209
no-one cares about ur reddit-tier jokes

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>>20874225
i don't think anyone really hates you but they just find the situation funny. don't worry about it.

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>>20874222
yah shit got better for most ppl >: )

>>20874225
honestly dude even tho u do worse on jcat than most of our boys who just guess thru it if u feel like ur doing better with nihongo and enjoying things thats all that matters god bless

[Anonymous No.]

>>20874229

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>>20874055
>>20874066
that story's an instant classic

[Anonymous No.]

>>20874225
It's good that you're reading more but don't forget to watch anime. ご武運を

[Anonymous No.]

Wait is this actually nuke or just a LARPer?

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>>20874225
i question some of the shit youre doin but what matters is that youre enjoyin the language instead of burnin yourself out tryin to force it
if youre able to do that on top of whatever learning resource creation then its all good
as they say gambare

[Anonymous No.]

>>20870696
https://youtu.be/ivO8OdMEP-8

more links from matt in there too

[Anonymous No.]

>>20874270
do u think a larper would make that post at this point in the thread

plus im sure a few of us can recognize him a million miles away hes got the stink lines and everything and ur face naturally contorts to look like this when he comes near

all that said thanks for bein there so we could be here and laugh

[Anonymous No.]

>cross-check translation of some random isekai recently updated at mangadex with the raw
>there is at least one error per panel
傑作

[Anonymous No.]

>most popular japanese grammar guide is written by a korean
really makes you think

[Anonymous No.]

>>20874283
you mean you make 1 error per panel?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20874283
do u wanna post some of those errors so i can laugh at them and perhaps u ?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20874282
that's true but he's not strimming so it seemed odd

[Anonymous No.]

>>20868117
Subs can help as long as you can stay focused. You should listen to the jap first, try to comprehend, then check the sub if you understood correctly or try to fill in the gaps. This of course with normal speed is pretty hard to do already, but not impossible. The problem is, especially if you get immerse in the story, you quickly loose all that focus and you start to just read the subs. Unfortunately your brain is extremely good at ignoring irrelevant data (if you are not autistic as fuck).

What I do and what I recommend:
>watch seasonal anime with subs and try to stay focused on the dub as much as you can
>rewatch older anime or super easy stuff like pegga pig raw as much as you can
>do anki to learn more vocab daily and have a look at basic grammar

If you are already good at reading you might consider doing the same just with japanese subs. But please turn off the subs at least 50% of your time. It really cripples your learning and watching raw isn't as bad as it sounds. You will comprehend alot even from just the animation and the little japanese you already know. Also try not to translate everything in your head, just try to understand without focusing on single words that much. This is in the end how you understand a language, it's a mostly unconscious process.

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>>20874301
responding to a reddit post...

[Anonymous No.]

>>20874306
think it's nuke making his way thru the thread dishing out the advice that got him so far

[Anonymous No.]

>>20874301
why do ppl always take the good thing and say u know what this really good thing needs yah some real dogshit

https://streamable.com/s3yep

[Anonymous No.]

>>20874308
dang pretty shocked u think that pls resume using caps and punctuation

[Anonymous No.]

>>20874308
if nuke watches the pig i will watch a dorama

[Anonymous No.]

pegga pig lmao

[Anonymous No.]

>>20874328
ahah good (not good) shit

[Anonymous No.]

>>20874329
kanji are not words
learn words and pick up kanji along the way

[Anonymous No.]

>>20874328
fair enough m8

[Anonymous No.]

>>20874329
why are u attempting to do shit w/out any idea what you're doing. the world is doomed

[Anonymous No.]

japanese is the easiest shit if u just watch 10000 hours of eng subs and then try to learn how to read

i promise

[Anonymous No.]

>>20874322
>>20874324
Jitsuwa, I'm currently watching Tanoshii Moomin Ikka though:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XXNW8161m9A

I just used Pegga to get my point across, because it's already pretty established on here. It's great for beginners, but it's also pretty hard to watch without doing opiates and finally killing yourself. Moomins might be a bit harder to understand, but it's actually really good and at least the recommended 90s version has about 70-80 episodes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20874328
yikes

[Anonymous No.]

>>20874322
well aibo here u go have fun lmao https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ad_dCRmycLo

[Anonymous No.]

imagine fucking up shit this basic

[Anonymous No.]

>>20874329
dude are you kidding me
there's a fucking guide
two of them ffs

[Anonymous No.]

yea wonder who these drunning krugerites are who just upload shit they translated thinking its right. they obv spent too much time on reddit and no-one told them they sucked ass

[Anonymous No.]

honestly it just confirms my initial suspicion which was they are horrendous at english more than anything

[Anonymous No.]

>>20874371
i didnt say if thats nuke i said if nuke watches the pig
i am surprised though and ill think about it
is that a ntr approved rec

[Anonymous No.]

>>20874395
idk what u mean by ntr approved but i mean i watched it it was like the biggest thing on tv at the time and even yung yaka guest stars in it

and look at those subs man isnt u tube great

[Anonymous No.]

yung taka* excuse me u might also know him has tm revolution

[Anonymous No.]

>>20874225
i was serious dude i think the fact that you spent fifteen months grinding flash cards for hours every day and only gained 5 jcat points and didn't quit right then and there is proof you have what it takes to make it now that you know reading is the way to go

[Anonymous No.]

>>20874406
ill give it a shot sometime and ill even watch it hardsubbed for you

[Anonymous No.]

>>20874424
watch that hard subbed shit quality ugly ass watermarked shit on youtube dude

honestly if u can secure better rips i will always support that choice quality is everything

[Anonymous No.]

>93 posters
>938 replies
is this what goes on here

[Anonymous No.]

>>20874701
And just 1 poster responsible for 500 of the posts.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20874701
Considering the Pareto principle, at least one person reaches 100 posts by himself.

[Anonymous No.]

i didnt post 500 times link them

link 500 posts

[Anonymous No.]

>>20874729
What about 100?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20874730
id say i made at least 100 for sure

[Anonymous No.]

There's nothing wrong with that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20874144
lmao i remember this good times literally just putting whatever djt says on a chart and seeing how people react

[Anonymous No.]

>>20874730
ive made over a hundred before but im under that lately

[Anonymous No.]

あれぇ。。。あれ。。。あっ。。。おっかしいな。。。泣くつもり。。。ないんだけどな。。はあぁぁ。。。おかしいな。はあっ。。ぐすんぐすん。。。いつも。。。ぐすんぐすん。。。いつも。。みんなにひっぱっていてって

[Anonymous No.]

>>20874820
>。。。
stop doing this its …

[Anonymous No.]

>>20874835
no it's not

[Anonymous No.]

The real question is... were there any GIRLS in this thread?

[Anonymous No.]

yall aint ready for that reveal yet

[Anonymous No.]

>>20874855
what is it ⋯

[Anonymous No.]

>>20874856
why would a girl want to learn japanese

[Anonymous No.]

>>20874898
have you SEEN how much homoge there is out there

[Anonymous No.]

>>20874898
tomboy desu. some girls aren't 100% girls.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20874856
i already told you >>20873112 now cease this immediately

[Anonymous No.]

>>20874898
dont crush my hopes and dreams

[Anonymous No.]

this is jp we're all cute little girls in dresses here

[Anonymous No.]

i wouldnt say cute or little but in dresses i will agree with

[Anonymous No.]

>>20874911
That's true, but we're pretending for a moment.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20874898
imagine thinking only dudes like ANYTHING japanese-related and that girls all think it's just bullshit
the real question this guy should be asking is "are there any perfect 10/10 beautiful women looking to date me who will ignore all of my flaws and expect the absolute bare minimum of me (ex: "the fact that you have a pulse at all is enough, let's date")"

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>>20874918
im willing to lower my standards to 7/10 but keep the rest

[Anonymous No.]

only a girl could get this weirdly irrationally upset
there i weeded her out for you guys

[Anonymous No.]

i want to date a girl who has also learned japanese as a hobby. i think it takes a girl more on the autistic spectrum to dedicate herself to something like that and i feel based on that personality trait we could get along better. though i don't want the fact we know japanese to be the basis of a relationship.

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>>20874933
nice try but 私はゲイ i just respect women and understand that they are fully people too and thus capable of an equal level of degeneracy to men

[Anonymous No.]

>>20874933
imagine thinking this

[Anonymous No.]

i only want a girlfriend for like 20 minutes a day 5 or 6 days of the week

[Anonymous No.]

Watching this girl-on-girl action screwed up my Anki timing.

[Anonymous No.]

girls lmao

[Anonymous No.]

The only girls I want to talk to are the ones in eroge.