/DJT/「Daily Japanese Thread」第2102番

[Anonymous No.]

New guide:
https://itazuraneko.neocities.org/
Old guide for those afraid of change:
https://djtguide.neocities.org/

Remember: Don't listen to any advice from DJT
前スレ: >>20800914

[Anonymous No.]

not like this thread is going to be any better just because the OP isnt full of shit

[Anonymous No.]

thank god now i can post about matt-dono again

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[Anonymous No.]

It seems you guys are determined to not learn japanese.

[Anonymous No.]

他スレのほうが好きだったのに…

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>>20808590
i cant believe uve done this

[Anonymous No.]

what does さまよい mean?　i can't tell whether it's さまよい or ざまよい

[Anonymous No.]

>>20808604
さまよう

[Anonymous No.]

>>20808604

it's a connective form of さまよう, which you can look up in your dictionary

[Anonymous No.]

>>20808604

stop using google translate

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>>20808624
>opera

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>>20808630
It's good. Try it.

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>>20808640
>no yomichan

no thanks!

[Supreme Poster of /pol/ !sposTeRwC2 No.]

[Anonymous No.]

can anyone tell me how to quickly and easily remove the furigana from vncore, or at least point me to a guide on how to do so?

[Supreme Poster of /pol/ !sposTeRwC2 No.]

>>20808643
>>20808630
Who are you quoting?

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>>20808643
>Popup dictionary
Not gonna make it.

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>>20808649

ive never used the deck but if you go to the browser then click a vncore card and open fields you can delete the furigana field, alternatively clicks cards and you can delete the furigana part from the cards

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>>20808658

i just use it to automatically make anki cards, i agree that ppl use popup dictionaries as a crutch and cant actually read japanese

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>>20808623

i use it to find out the dictionary form of a verb or an adjective and not to translate japanese

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>>20808672
>i use it to find out the dictionary form of a verb or an adjective and not to translate japanese

clearly it's not very effective or else you wouldn't be struggling with さまよい

[Anonymous No.]

Hello DJT, what learning resources for listening/speaking have you tried and what worked?

I have a test in a month or so and I'd like to study up a bit for it.

[Anonymous No.]

This wouldn't be happening if you didn't delete the previous thread. its on you fagmod

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>>20808697

are there 10,000 hours in a month?

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>>20808672

https://cooljugator.com/ja/%E5%BD%B7%E5%BE%A8%E3%81%86

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>>20808704
The test isn't going to assume I'm a native Japanese PHD with a penchant for obscure words anon. Beginner to intermediate shit is fine.

[Anonymous No.]

there can be if u use the hyperballs chamber

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>>20808711

how should i know about your dumb test. why dont you study w/e the fuck materials they gave you to study for it dumb@$$

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>>20808718
Nigger I didn't ask you what was on my test. I asked for some resources around listening comprehension or speaking, that people have used and had good experiences with, that's all.

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>>20808729

10,000 hours of anime, that's all.

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さより?


this is not in the dictionary. wtf
i can't read the furigana. it's too blurry

[Anonymous No.]

im going to get drunk tonight instead of learning nihongo

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>>20808729
What kind of answer are you expecting for listening other than anime, movies or series? Just fucking download your favourite ecchi and watch that. I recommend Valkyrie Drive Mermaid.

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>>20808746
きょり. manga will display furigana as きより

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>>20808729
>listening
watch some Japanese TV stream
>speaking
only worthwhile if you can find a native or teacher to talk to, otherwise forget it

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>>20808746

きょり

i see we will be seeing a lot of you

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>>20808746
You can also just handdraw the kanji into google translate.

[Anonymous No.]

there's also this

https://www.kanjitomo.net/

altho ive never used it so idk if it's any good

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>>20808749
While I appreciate the recommendation, I was wondering if people had used shit like pimsleur or japanese pod 101, etc etc.

From what I understand pimsleur is old as fuck and japanese pod is full of insufferable dickholes. Which made me wonder if there's anything else I should look at or investigate. I could also be wrong on those and would be interested to hear peoples' thoughts on them.

>>20808757
This is probably a good idea but how do I figure out if I'm correct; Japanese subtitles? But then how do I stop myself from just reading those?

I really do appreciate any and all recommendations and discussion on the topic though, thanks anons.

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What are you reading /djt/?

>In b4 manga isn't reading

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>>20808778
It's okay for printed letters if it's not too blurry.

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>>20808780
You don't have to get every word right. Don't use subtitles.

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>>20808781
Reading this masterpiece. It has furigana which is nice. I've already seen the anime, so it's not too exciting. I think the manga covers about the same as the anime, but the novels do not have furigana.

[Anonymous No.]

みんなさんたらエッチですね

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>>20808781

started not-reading this but it's a bit too crazy for me

[Anonymous No.]

Imagine spending your formative intellectual years consuming copious amounts of vapid otaku trash in order to learn a language only to wake up in your mid 20s and see how devoid your life has been of meaningful art. That's exactly the position our guy Matt is in right now. No wonder he hates himself and his followers so much.

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>>20808830

except now he just watches garbage potboiler jdramas

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>>20808830
no he's just pretending to be intellectual and hate anime so people will take him seriously

this is the true matt
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nlLYlE6OWOs

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>>20808830

>meaningful art

such as?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20808852
Literature (with a capital L), music, high cinema... Works that stir the soul and the intellect.

[Anonymous No.]

そらきた

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>>20808858

manga does stir the intellectual if you're a beginner and don't know enough japanese to comprehend the things you mentioned.

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>>20808858
Doesn't it stir your intellect to learn a new language?

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>>20808864

サルじゃん

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>>20808858
>Literature (with a capital L),
literally no such thing

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>>20808830
im pretty sure u cant say matts consumed vapid otaku trash

as far as i could tell hes only watched mainstream normie anime like fsn (the new 1 not even the old 1)

he hasnt come anywhere close to actual otakudom or any of the good things therein

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あんたもさっさと恋人見つけろわ

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>>20808781
Muromi-san.

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>>20809005
dang i remember that 1 twas pretty ftw

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>>20808988
u must delete this immediately

[Anonymous No.]

Is it true the 2k/6k decks are build from decade old newspapers?

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>>20809034
multi-decade-old and yes

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>>20809034

yea

[Anonymous No.]

>>20809034
yeah it's true. the frequency order was also fucked up by nukemarine for autistic reasons

[Anonymous No.]

>>20809042
>>20809043
>>20809044
so why the fuck is the deck being recommended everywhere

[Anonymous No.]

>>20809052
because nukemarine somehow made it very popular among pre-matt AJATTers, which are the people who built the original djt guide (years ago)

[Anonymous No.]

>>20809052

it was the only real pre-made vocab deck in like 2010 which is when all the people who are good at japanese now started

[Anonymous No.]

nobody in the japanese learning community is good at japanese though

[Anonymous No.]

>>20809056
>>20809071
so Tae Kim is the best option right now when starting to learn Japanese, right? (for non-weebs)

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>>20809052
do you want to do something about it? i'd be willing to go through and fix the frequency order and prune some words that dont need to be in there due to newspaper vocab to make a better beginner deck with someone

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>>20809095
actually i just remembered i think there's a deck out there that preserves the original frequency order ill just reorder it by that and delete words that arent essential to starting to read manga like 交通費 someone posted earlier

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>>20809092
grammar guides have nothing to do with vocab decks

if you're considering doing some kind of woke tae kim vocab deck just stop what you're doing and find an adult

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>>20809092
non-weebs can't learn japanese

[Anonymous No.]

It's kanji tiem. The parts are woman, myself, and hole. This can only mean one thing: commence fucking. The kanji means to commence or begin. The on reading is し which reminds you of "she" who is your lover. Imagine she is your first, so the kun reading is はじ the same as 初, first time.

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>>20809120
What's the best vocab deck then? I'm just going off of what's listed here https://itazuraneko.neocities.org/library/cor.html

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>>20809153
the one you make yourself from what you're reading or listening to after doing the first 100 to 1000 words from a frequency list like vn core 1250 or anonymous core 5000

[Anonymous No.]

if you make your own deck that quickly you might inadvertently end up with a lot of random ass words from the outer space of 30k+ frequency though

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>>20809294
god forbid you actually grind something useful.

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>>20809308

how would words you're going to see once in a million be useful to grind?

[Anonymous No.]

My young deck is like that, lots of words for romance and loneliness and despair. Plenty of scifi terms. But it's daijyobu because that's what I'm interested in. There's still useful stuff, it doesn't get excluded. If you see something... it already can't be very rare in the context of your interests.

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>>20809319
cuz you're gonna see frequent words so frequently you won't even need to anki them.

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ok heres core "1k"

https://mega.nz/#!OlMgXQ7L!ETJKaeVC3XVKml-Kj3e0HUK_Ce8KEcZUj4iTZSbyP70

i reordered it by the original frequency order. then i went through and suspended some business newspaper words or stuff you don't need to spend time on to get into reading and there was some duplicate i suspended like two identical cards for 円 i suspended the circle one so you will learn yen which i think will be more immediately useful.

everything after 1k is suspended you can unsuspend everything if you want to learn it i didn't delete anything

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>>20809326

so it's kind of pointless to grind at all until you can read decently

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>>20809294
the chances of coming across more than 1 or 2 of those while consuming content at that level are very low, pretty much every word is going to be useful to keep in mind. You can also just use your judgment and not mine shit that seems obscure to you, only mine words that you see 3 or 4 times and have trouble with, and leave the ones that seem uncommon alone.

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>>20809294
good opportunity to build good mining habits, the most important thing is to read and listen a lot as soon as possible, mining is initially just a way to make yourself do that even if it's largely incomprehensible

you do, of course, need to develop good mining habits if you're going to use anki, and building them early instead of months in is a good thing. different people have different media consumption habits so you have to figure out what good mining habits are on your own. just get on with it.


and of course the first X words you memorize are just to oil the griddle so to speak and show you what the very most common words are so your brain has more to work with figuring out what to pay attention to when you start reading and listening

[Anonymous No.]

learning rare words because you don't know what's common in the beginning is a right of passage in nihongo learning

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>>20809386
i too learned how to say apostle before puddle

[Anonymous No.]

yea i think one of the first words i mined was 腰蓑 from dq8.. never seen it again

[Anonymous No.]

mine this retards

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5fDGZli4EEg

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>>20809386
>right of passage
愚の直行

[Anonymous No.]

1000 Anki reviews
5 hours of reading
8 episodes of anime
youtube videos
listening practice inbetween/overlapping
just checking djt for 5 min break

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>>20809448
is this the next matto-sama ?

[Anonymous No.]

全然できない　( ﾟдﾟ )

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>>20809414
is "10 layers of autotune" the japanese equivalent of mumble rap?

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>>20809414
冬ですね

[Anonymous No.]

今日も一日そぼるぞい

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>>20809501
more like robo rap dude sounds like a fuckin robo

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>>20809448
why the fuck would you do 1k Anki reviews, can't imagine a greater waste of my time

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>>20809584

>why would you read 1000 sentences of japanese

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>>20809547

さぼるでしょー

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>>20809547
this post is a sign of end times for these threads

[Anonymous No.]

My favorite writers are Beckett, Nabokov, Tolstoy, Romeo-sama and Woolf.

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>>20808780
I'm using JapanesePod101 to practice my listening, since it is lower than my reading ability. I subscribed to a 1 month Premium subscription, so that I could use their MyFeed to download the lessons outlined here (https://www.nihongonobaka.com/japanesepod101-com-individual-season-reviews/).). After the month, I'm not subscribing again.

If you don't want to pay, you can download the JPod101 lessons from the DJT site under the cornucopia. Although it doesn't contain all of the suggested lessons from the site I linked to.

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My favorite writers are David Foster Wallace and the guy who wrote this yurige.

[Anonymous No.]

my favourite writers are rl stein 田中ロミオ and のぶみ

[Anonymous No.]

i can't believe you actually looked up who wrote うんこちゃんようちえんへいく for that

[Anonymous No.]

流騎士07 is probably the best modern Japanese writer.

[Anonymous No.]

by looked it up u mean just looked at the cover of the book in the vid ive linked a billion times? lmao

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>>20809629
Have fun never learning japanese.

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>>20809646
Never heard of him, but I'd bet money he's better than 竜騎士０７.

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[Anonymous No.]

>>20809649

[Anonymous No.]

My favorite philosopher is SCA-自.

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>>20809667
Truly a man of art.

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>>20809656
imagine learning japanese and then reading something by rk07 like umineko lmao

surefire way to turn in2 mattvsjapan instantly

>>20809671
yah truly a man of art *runs ur post over with a train*

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>>20809569
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=awie_UCYe5Q
these guys own but why did they completely change halfway thru this song to a different genre? subarashii

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>>20809676
Matt vs. Umineko? He couldn't even read Muramasa.

[Anonymous No.]

I got my japanese teacher to play unko chan for our class. it was probably the best educational activity I experienced in the 4 semesters of class i took です

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>>20809692
imagine reading muramasa and switching over to something as amateur and frankly a work of a fanboy of good writers like umineko lmfao

>>20809687
well this is cuz they had to rip off green day fsr also if u read the vid title ull prolly figure it out

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>>20809700
if this is true im printing ur post and putting it on my corkboard with all the other small rays of hope ive seen on djt as a result of my tireless toiling

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>>20809708
>imagine reading muramasa
I can't. ;_;

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>>20809710
I don't have any proof short of reaching out to people who were in the class, but I'm not trolling it did happen sometime in november/december 2017

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>>20809708
>also if u read the vid title ull prolly figure it out
damn i even did read it and i'm just dumber than shit that's all

[Anonymous No.]

reminder to drop Anki once you're able to understand a text without looking words up

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>>20809727
So, after 15-20 years?

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>>20809733
if you're not able to understand a text without having to look words up after a year or two of study you should accept your learning disability and stop trying

[Anonymous No.]

Guys stop matt has a bigger passive vocabulary than most japanese people if he can't read something that means not even japanese can read it

[Anonymous No.]

three fucking alphabets...

[Anonymous No.]

what's this about matt not reading muramasa

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>>20809722
that was a while ago u guys prolly all learned nihongo by now

>>20809740
too bad having a vocabulary repository and knowing a language are 2 different things see scrabble champ.jpg and also every time matt says "maa" "aruteido" and uhh this entire thing https://vocaroo.com/i/s0RYPh6WwowD

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>>20809740

that would imply that having a dictionary at my disposable would mean i could read anything i want

makes me lol knowing matt undoubtedly spent about 8 hours rehearsing and retaking his muramasa video

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>>20809741
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XUyaO2_0UiY#t=70

[Anonymous No.]

>>20809751
watashi wa madamada desu kedo

[Anonymous No.]

>pic related

Anyone use this? They want me to pay $10 per month premium access that pretty much covers vocab, quizzes and even note cards. Wondering if it is worth it.

[Anonymous No.]

ive seen that website being mentioned like 5 times in the past couple of threads.

stop astroturfing scum

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>20809819
No, you can learn Japanese for literally free and there are no tricks to learning it faster

[Anonymous No.]

Word of the day!
自ら窒息プレイ
autoerotic asphyxiation

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>>20809903
自ら窒息レイプ sounds much more fun to me

[Anonymous No.]

>>20809838
if i can read all of those without needing to look at the english translations does that mean i've "made it"

[Anonymous No.]

In terms of the S&M scene きっと.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20808306
How hard is a Murakami novel compared to something like Anaxel or Layline?

[Anonymous No.]

murakami's novels are uniquely easy for native english speakers to read due to his writing style being heavily influenced by his experience as an english translator

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>>20809965
They are hard only in terms of how boring they are.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20809965
really difficult and when u can finally muster up the nihongo-ryoku to read them u can flex like this guy https://streamable.com/ymtaz

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>>20809982
I felt my brain cells die watching that, now I'll really never learn JP

[Anonymous No.]

>>20809986
well as we say in japanese

zangneng

[Anonymous No.]

zang neng boyz

[Anonymous No.]

>>20809982
wtf is the context of this

[Anonymous No.]

ive seen it romanized as ginnan boyz before lmao

[Anonymous No.]

had to politely tell the japanese person they dont know japanese

[Anonymous No.]

あなたは日本語がわかりません

[Anonymous No.]

>>20809597
anki isnt reading

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>>20810122
imagine doing 1000 sentence cards of shit you've already seen 5x each and going "phew that was 2 hours well spent, hopefully i'll still remember all of these tomorrow"

[Anonymous No.]

iyaaaaa nandaro

[Anonymous No.]

>>20809630
picked up

[Anonymous No.]

私の最初のフラッシュカードを熟知する！

[Anonymous No.]

One year later and I still don’t understand this contradictory motherfucker

[Anonymous No.]

>>20810127
time to skim a book for some hot new sentences to put in my deck and call it "reading"

[Anonymous No.]

>>20810145
if you're ahead of somebody, it means you get your turn before them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20810142
はずいよ

[Anonymous No.]

トラップカード発動

「ゲイになって死んじゃえ」

[Anonymous No.]

>>20810190
効果ない
我はもうゲイであるから

[Anonymous No.]

おまえはもうゲイである

[Anonymous No.]

imagine falling for the anki meme

[Anonymous No.]

i don't regret learning some words while i was still reading through grammar guides before reading but dropping that shit turned my japanese sessions from something i dreaded into something i looked forward to
but again i probably "know" fewer words than the average diligent anki user

[Anonymous No.]

フィールド上に表側表示で存在するゲイ族モンスターを全て破壊する。

[Anonymous No.]

My experience with memorizing vocabulary with an Anki deck has been, that as I memorize vocab, more and more of the anime I'm watching becomes something I understand instead of background noise. If I wasn't memorizing vocab... I don't know, I'd have to do something else to learn the words. Right now I'm not reading. But what I'm doing feels good, and the fog covering nihongo in anime is slowly lifting week by week.

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>>20809819
Only good for kana, which you can learn from them for free

[Anonymous No.]

I'm thinking about switching my desktop from windows to a linux type OS, are there linux people here? Not sure if doing so will adversely affect any common programs jpn learners use

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>>20810403
I thought Anki was the only program people here used.
If you're unsure, anon, you should run Ubuntu in a VM for a couple weeks and see if you like it. The only problems I see you facing are ones outside of learning Japanese.

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>>20810403
probably not, but if eroge falls into that category, you will need to jump through some hoops to get those working

[Anonymous No.]

While I slave away at shitty slice of life LNs in an attempt to boost my skills, what philosophy should I be picking up to prepare for jintai?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20810403
I can help you out with wine for VNs. There are some good automated systems out there.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20810469
jintai is a slice of life LN

[Anonymous No.]

>>20810475
It's not, stop memeing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20810479
sci fi fantasy sol

[Anonymous No.]

>>20810469
That's a very difficult question. Eastern philosophy is very different from Western philosophy. In the East, the meaning to life and the right way to live, is considered a solved problem. They have no concept of progressivism. You can go in to some depth studying Buddhist scriptures, but the shortest high quality introduction to eastern philosophy I can think of is this Bhagavad Gita translation in English. No commentary, it's just a translation. It's fully equivalent to a quick summary of Buddhist philosophy because they are the same. You have to take it seriously. It's really against degeneracy and hubris and things like that.

https://mega.nz/#!SRJyEI5I!GYsZdgot3gyWJGka41RRZliJSEvdHEhK0OgqFVbsoeI

[Anonymous No.]

>>20810469
You should be familiar with the Western literary and philosophical canon, the Holy Bible, the basics of Confucianism, and Japanese history.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20810145
just always treat it like before, pretty basic anon

[Anonymous No.]

>>20810436
>>20810460
>>20810474
Ok thanks for the feedback. It's not an immediate project but something I'd like to get to eventually. I think my biggest concern is about getting text hookers running and having a decent reading flow with mouseover dictionary because i'm still a baby

[Anonymous No.]

tfw you write out a sentence into 翻訳 and flip it from 日本語 to 英語 and back again and it stays the same

[Anonymous No.]

holy bible is for fags

[Anonymous No.]

Posting the 2230 grade school kanji. Bet you don't a few of these.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20810215
>i probably "know" fewer words than the average diligent anki user
depends how much the average anki user reads
the vocal ones do not set high expectations

[Anonymous No.]

>>20810769
>為、爽、驚、奥、髪、尾、戻、魔、恋、弾
>人名用漢字
what

[Anonymous No.]

What should I use to learn/study vocab while doing RTK? Probably a simple question, but I would appreciate the help.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20810797
can you not tell the difference between black and gray
gray are jinmeiyou

[Anonymous No.]

よるのごはんの

おかいものいく

なにかおうかな

[Anonymous No.]

https://www.aozora.gr.jp/cards/001341/files/49669_40537.html

If you can't read this, you don't know Japanese.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20810849
How could you not read it when all the words have furigana?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20808306
What the fuck is a 初心暑

[Anonymous No.]

why does that weird ass 読んでくれたまえ sentence still show up anyway, you people who make the images need to replace it with something more normal
初心者は質問する前にまずガイドを読んでください

[mia discord No.]

Interestingly enough, the golden age of art education was the apprentice system where you'd just assist better artists than you for 10 years without really doing your own work. You didn't have "art classes", and your master didn't "teach you", he just did his thing and you watched. You just had a massive "input" period where you simply learned to repeat what your master did, and your style evolved naturally from that simply through the fact that you're a different human being. Nowadays people attend art classes hoping to learn "tricks" and worry about developing their own unique style even though they have never studied the masters or nature. That's the equivalent to early output in language learning.

All that to say that I think it applies to other (mostly artistic/expression based) fields as well. Most artists don't have conscious knowledge of what makes them good, so you just have to "immerse" in their knowledge.

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>>20810816
There's a section in the guide:
https://itazuraneko.neocities.org/learn/guide.html#Vocabulary

I assume you haven't read any of guide. You really should. Every part of it contains useful information, and you don't have to wait until you've accomplished anything except, like, learning kana before you do it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20808748
You can do both

[Anonymous No.]

>>20810963
djt is cringe, that's the answer.

[Anonymous No.]

when will nukemarine give up?? it's pretty sad

[Anonymous No.]

Why do nip numbers have 0 consistency? Learning numbers and their numbers + things variation is a fucking mess.

[Anonymous No.]

english has a ton of inconsistencies too. what's your point

[Anonymous No.]

>>20811107
What did he do this time?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20811129
Because it's a mixture of Japanese and Chinese numbers. There's only a couple or so variants per number so it's not that bad.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20811129
>he can't count hifumi
git gud kid.

[Anonymous No.]

うれしょん

って

えいごでなんていうの？

[Anonymous No.]

>>20810769
2230 since when

[Anonymous No.]

>>20811222
excitement urination

[Anonymous No.]

>>20811304
にこめのたんご

どのみちよくわからん

くになのん？

[Anonymous No.]

uricていうのはわかったけど

cどこにいったのん

[Anonymous No.]

百合ネーション

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fUxgijxwgQQ

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

How can you say "better than some people"? I can't figure out how to fit it in the のほうが structure.

[Anonymous No.]

idk what u want with this sentence fragment shit but maybe u want より somewhere

[Anonymous No.]

>>20811655
"Better than some tennis instructors at tennis"

[Anonymous No.]

yeahh anyway i dont think u want ほう here unless these other tennis instructors are defined

[Anonymous No.]

damn well I hope I see it in context one day cause I've never seen it yet. Fuck maybe they don't even say it in Japanese.

[Anonymous No.]

when and how should I be learning radicals?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20811700
if u spend enough time with kanji the radicals will become familiar

[Anonymous No.]

>>20811700
hard to say. most radicals are just the most common pictographic kanji like 人,女,火,木 that are also used to suggest meaning in other kanji. if you know those kanji you already know the radicals. some radicals are useless like 龜,艮. if you do RTK you give names to all the components of kanji not just the radicals.

[Anonymous No.]

おにいちゃんが

さいごにみたアニメは

なんですか

[Anonymous No.]

>>20811760
その時, カノジョは.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20811760
まどか叛逆の物語

[Anonymous No.]

ナルト

君はどうだい

[Anonymous No.]

yoshi time for rtk reviews

[Anonymous No.]

yosh time to eat ass

[Anonymous No.]

>>20811700
maybe look at a list a couple times throughout your first year and notice oh these variants are the same thing
otherwise just learn words

[Anonymous No.]

>>20808590
too lewd.

[Anonymous No.]

https://kaku.fuwafuwa.ca/

new onscreen android ocr tool thanks r****t

[Anonymous No.]

>>20808830
feels good man.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20812076
it was made by a DJTer

[Anonymous No.]

imagine this

this thread was made by a djter

[Anonymous No.]

>>20810509
This is all non sense lol

[Anonymous No.]

>>20808306
the fuck is this

[Anonymous No.]

>>20812487
気

[Anonymous No.]

没入が道だけ

[Anonymous No.]

I HATE vertical reading

[Anonymous No.]

that's funny cuz japanese hate horizontal reading. you might wanna change to learning a new language

[Anonymous No.]

>>20812540
You will get used to it. Don't worry. Keep reading.

[Anonymous No.]

if u have an actual opinion on the concept of vertical vs horizontal writing u cannot learn japanese and ur prospects for learning nihongo arent too good either

[Anonymous No.]

>>20812540
wut vertical reading feels so much more natural for this language

[Anonymous No.]

>>20812540
I like it but I'm still getting used to it too. I just hate when I look up a word and then realize I knew it already. Only missed it because my brain wasn't used to seeing it vertical. It's nice when your brain can recognize words fast and you're flying through pages, but yea the vertical recognition is a pain.

[Anonymous No.]

助けて

[Anonymous No.]

自業自得

[Anonymous No.]

>>20812621
uuugh I hate that feeling.. that's why I never let them build up.. I would just delete and start over

[Anonymous No.]

You have to uninstall Anki if you want to learn Japanese

[Anonymous No.]

>>20812585
this isn't actually a problem btw you might be low IQ

[Anonymous No.]

>>20810978
this is really autistic. is this the standard level of discourse in the $10/month pay for friends discord?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20812644
just do the first part and not the second

if ur hearts not in the cards then the heart of the cards wont be in u >: )

[Anonymous No.]

>>20812651
I've been reading horizontal for probably longer than you is all. My IQ is superior to yours.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20812651
careful u might reveal ur true colors that u actually parse 1 character at a time lmfao

[Anonymous No.]

I need to catch up with the 巷. What is the latest ミーム around matty.

[Anonymous No.]

Is learning japanese actually possible?
I've been studying daily for 7 months and i still fuck up remembering vocabulary that is already mature cards in my Anki. That is to say, i actually know the words and how they're written in Hiragana but that connection between the Kanji and the word behind it is always weak as fuck. Obviously i read too but i don't have stats for that, but my retention rate on mature cards in Anki is like 50%-60%

[Anonymous No.]

------------> https://vocaroo.com/i/s0RYPh6WwowD <-----------------

[Anonymous No.]

>>20812706
Of course not. Why do you think this general is 10 years old by now, but so far not even the first few managed to learn the language.

[Anonymous No.]

srsly imagine being a dude sayign its cringe af to speak japanese for gaijins and then making that

[Anonymous No.]

>>20812706
>my retention rate on mature cards in Anki is like 50%-60%
Congrats you are actually learning difficult words and using anki in the correct way.

>>20812711
no

[Anonymous No.]

>>20812706
how much reading do you do per day (number of pages)? how much active listening (number of hours)? i bet you don't actually interact with japanese as much as you need to in order to reach fluency quickly

[Anonymous No.]

>>20812706
anki is not studying japanese. listening is studying japanese. reading is studying japanese

[Anonymous No.]

>>20812706
every word is 4 things
1. meaning
2. hiragana
3. kanji
4. sound
You really have to burn all 4 into your brain, connect them all every way they can, and then you have to get used to where it will be in dialogue patterns for true comprehension.

It's totally possible, but there is a reason kids seem retarded and you're just a kid again. Give it 10 years. At least you have an advanced structure in your head already to boost and knowledge of how to learn and patients a kid doesn't have.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20812717
>Congrats you are actually learning difficult words and using anki in the correct way.
And how did you deduce this from my rate of failure?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20812732
If you know the sound, you know the hiragana because outside pitch accent hiragana is just writing down the sounds.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20812727
>he doesn't use audio in his anki

[Anonymous No.]

>>20812727
thanks for only reading half my post

[Anonymous No.]

>>20812739
Totally not true at all. Every word is said slightly different. They might use more or less U sound, pitch, say parts sharper or more or less choppy, etc. If you think the hiragana is the sound you're fucking up. It's close but no cigar.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20812745
no i read the whole thing ur just dumb. if ur anking words that dont come up in ur reading thats just a fucking waste of time and thats why ur getting such low %

[Anonymous No.]

>>20812741
not true listening practice, your brain fills in what it expects from repetition rather than parsing native input naturally

completely different modes of listening, dont shortchange yourself kid

[Anonymous No.]

>>20812756
Yes but if you know the sound you know the hiragana, the other way doesn't work.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20812758
my actual retention rate is like 85-90% but my mature cards just vanish after some time except words that are part of daily conversation

[Anonymous No.]

>>20812761
In an ideal world we do an anki deck and then we watch an episode of anime that the deck was created from and we comprehend it and in native format. Then you listen to just audio of it. It's a tedious setup but that would have to be strong.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20812766
Obviously.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20812769
you are obviously not reading enough

[Anonymous No.]

>>20812766
Yea true, I should have clarified that. You def know the hiragana if you know the sound.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20812773
You've got it backwards. You should watch the episode of anime a few times raw, then put it through subs2srs and read/listen to it that way, deleting all the cards you already know well.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20812769
got to read/listen a shit ton bro, stop using so much english too, it makes your brain feel like you don't need japanese, just my 2 cents

[Anonymous No.]

>>20812621
Go do something else, maybe it will go away!

[Anonymous No.]

>>20812796
based ajatter

[Anonymous No.]

>>20812800
That's what I've been doing for the past few days.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20812822
if you've missed a few days you might as well reset the deck, you've already fucked up the intervals hard

[Anonymous No.]

>>20812504
>気
thank you

[Anonymous No.]

>>20812829
He can fix it but he has to do it gradually. Shut off new cards and do like 100 cards per day till he's fixed it.

[Anonymous No.]

for every flashtard lamenting their chosen fate

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P4_HwzxnG0I#t=121

[Anonymous No.]

When going thru those core cards instead of passing them when you get it right delete them instead. That will decrease work load quickly

[Anonymous No.]

Yea but what do you do when you always hit again on that 全員 card? What does this even mean? I can't even pronounce this word...

[Anonymous No.]

i mean if you didnt learn something in the first place it shouldnt be in anki at all so i say hit delete. grinding premade decks is the stupidest thing you can do when it comes to using srs

[Anonymous No.]

Anon, i think the real question you need to be asking yourself is "why am i judging my progress in learning japanese so heavily based on my anki results."

[Anonymous No.]

>>20812876
dont worry got ur senaka mate

https://vocaroo.com/i/s0sCcBi8tsuA

[Anonymous No.]

>>20812649
you have to delete the core deck*

[Anonymous No.]

You guys don't even think in mentalese. Read a book for once!

[Anonymous No.]

That's nice but reading isn't reading.

[Anonymous No.]

i think the mentalese video was smart

[Anonymous No.]

https://youtu.be/IUGcCvNqkuA?t=413

[Anonymous No.]

Guys! RTK is the best thing since sliced bread! I fruitfully used 3 months of my life only doing RTK 1. Then I have been doing Core 10k. I have done nothing else besides anking my life away. I hope that in 1 year I can reach the point in which I can understand Yotsuba&

[Anonymous No.]

Guys RTK is the best thing ever conceived for learning kanji! I dedicated 3 months of my life just doing RTK 1. Now I am doing Core 10k. I only do anki whenever I study Japanese. After that I will do RTK 3 after that fabulous experience. I hope that in just 1 year I can reach a point in which I can read Yotsuba&! and read my first piece of Japanese media

[Anonymous No.]

is this your first day on 4chan

[Anonymous No.]

>>20813124
How did you know?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20808781
>>20808809
>>20809005
>>20809117
Manga isn't reading though.

[Anonymous No.]

I've been reading Kino no Tabi for about a month now and I'm only on chapter 2. I just can' get into it and the writing style feels really weird to me.

And I can't understand why the author made the first two stories start out exactly the same. Half of the story is getting to a new country, they look everywhere but no one is there. I can understand that this type of plot might come up more than once in a long series, but why would you start out your book with two stories that are so similar?

I only like to read one thing at a time and I don't like dropping them either, so I often get into these situations where I don't want to continue but can't move on to something else. Really annoying.

[Anonymous No.]

i dont mean this in a mean or rude way just like an idiot child who cant do anything but point at a thing and say its that thing but

thats pretty clearly autism

[Anonymous No.]

it's simple. if you don't want to read it then quit reading it. not like 2 chapters is that far into it so you shouldn't feel any need to complete it. it's like giving an anime 3 episodes to decide if you want to watch the whole thing or not. it's the job of the author to interest you not your job to force yourself to be interested. if you look around and find something you personally want to read you will progress much faster and learn more at the same time. if you need it said differently what you are doing right now is WASTING TIME that could be better spent having fun learning nihongo and going on adventures in books and tv shows

[Anonymous No.]

imagine doing literally thousands of flashcards because ppl on the internet who are not native vetted tell u to and actually believing thats your ticket to learning japanese lmao

[Anonymous No.]

why is 可愛い considered 当て字 and not 熟字訓?

[Anonymous No.]

>finally able to read comment threads on youtube written in japanese
>it's an exclusive shitposting fest

[Anonymous No.]

I deleted my anki and started meditating and my japanese got worse

[Anonymous No.]

maybe its like quitting smoking where ur gonna feel hella sick at first but then shit only gets better and ur limit becomes much higher

[Anonymous No.]

it might seem like your japanese got worse but actually you were bad at japanese to begin with and anki was tricking you into thinking you were good. from now on is the part where you really get good

[Anonymous No.]

>>20813288
what did u think ppl in a society where u have to be very careful to not step out of line as to oust urself forever wouldnt love the ability to go on the internet and talk hella shit at no repercussion ?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20812621

https://sourceforge.net/projects/fastclicker/

just pass them all in 10 seconds and continue your quest tomorrow. it's better than not doing it

[Anonymous No.]

fast click ur idiot cards into a fuckin black hole

[Anonymous No.]

theres no debate about whether flashcards help people remember shit (they do)

so basically flashcard haters are just saying "you shouldnt try and remember words", which is clearly retarded

[Anonymous No.]

>>20813286
〔「かわゆい」の転。「可愛」は当て字〕

[Anonymous No.]

why remember words when u can learn them

[Anonymous No.]

is the venn diagram of flashcard haters and people who rely on yomichan as a crutch to read a single circle?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20813341

you can learn a word then forget it 2 seconds after closing your dictionary

[Anonymous No.]

if you read a book you rep more words and it's fun

[Anonymous No.]

you can also not and if its not a common word who cares

get functional in nihongo first worry about words later

[Anonymous No.]

>>20813344

it's not as effective as a memorisation tool though because you aren't necessarily going to see the words that are at the very edge of your memory, placing them into longer term memory, as anki is designed specifically to do.

you can easily do both and increase the effectiveness of your reading by improving your vocabulary overall and meaning there is a greater chance of i+1 comprehension in what you're reading, allowing you to learn more words quicker.

[Anonymous No.]

why would u oust urself this early on by dropping the i+1 bomb lol

[Anonymous No.]

>in the middle of a discussion
>h-hey let me just consult my dictionary for a second

non-memorisation nerds btfo

[Anonymous No.]

I memorize naturally through reading. My books are more powerful than your shitty anki deck.

[Anonymous No.]

>hot attractive female: oh hey ur learning japanese thats really cool can u say something for me ?
>cant say shit

memorisation nerds btfo

[Anonymous No.]

自分との関わり方
what does this mean, if it's talking about the negative point of a relationship? Means of getting involved with each other?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20813322
You just have to hold down the space bar. I've done my reps when I was really tired before and I fell asleep with my thumb on the space bar. When I woke up all my reps were done.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20813387
>>20813383

where do you think ankidrones get all their material from? we read books and take words we dont know from them

you're putting in only half the effort of the chad anki disciple

[Anonymous No.]

>>20813393

space bar takes forever, it's like one card every 2 seconds (altho obv you change this in your windows setting to an extent)

[Anonymous No.]

you dont read books

u remember the individual words in order as printed on the page and then translate it into shitty english in ur brain to try to comprehend it

memorisation tards btfo even harder

[Anonymous No.]

>>20813340
But don't the kanji tell the meaning as well? 可愛 means cute in Chinese so can't it qualify as a jukujikun?

[Anonymous No.]

>somehow i can read books way better than someone who doesnt have to look up the words every 2 seconds in yomichan because i forgot how to read

the hubris of a common non-memorisation fool.

[Anonymous No.]

sorry thats not strong enough u have to convince me u can even read

let me guess ur also this guy lmfao >>20812651

[Anonymous No.]

incorrect & obv there's no possible way i can prove to u so let's just end the discussion here w/ me as the theoretical victor assuming i can read

[Anonymous No.]

https://streamable.com/5x0yf

[Anonymous No.]

no

[Anonymous No.]

its ok i got what u really need

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l0Yv_W_jMTs

[Anonymous No.]

based and tenshi-pilled

[Anonymous No.]

イエス・ウィ・ケン

[Anonymous No.]

what are you non-memorisation派 reading now?

just got my copy of this

[Anonymous No.]

>>20813445
This is very good input because I have an Evangelion based vocabulary desu.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20813481

[Anonymous No.]

>>20813404
>thinks he comprehends what he's reading better because he doesn't memorize anything
>thinks constantly going to jisho/yomi is somehow a more effective strategy
>somehow thinks you can learn without the use of memory

justreadfags btfo again

[Anonymous No.]

>>20813509
wow this is some paper thin shit thinner than the toilet paper at school

also all 3 of those literally dont describe anything i think and the second one is especially abhorrent

[Anonymous No.]

>>20813390
No. Post the full sentence.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20813516
then you need to frame your points better because that's the message you are sending

[Anonymous No.]

i already called an end to this discussion. you're making the anki派 look bad now with your feeble logic

[Anonymous No.]

>>20813445
yfw based immersion content

[Anonymous No.]

>>20813409
かわいい is a sound mutation from かわゆい, then they slapped 可愛 on top of it

http://gogen-allguide.com/ka/kawaii.html for the full story

[Anonymous No.]

アァメン

[Anonymous No.]

>>20813545

i think the salient point here is that it's 当て字 because 可愛 (unrelated to the chinese word) has the reading かわい (there are various placenames that have used that kanji reading)

[Anonymous No.]

if you're interested in more christ related input then i heavily recommend 沈黙 by 遠藤周作. captures the feeling of being a missionary in a savage land very well

[Anonymous No.]

>>20813518
父さんの事、母親の仕事の暗部、自分との関わり方
i.e. he's listing things that strain his relationship with his mom, an incident that happened between her and his father, her work being messed up and the last one (?)

[Anonymous No.]

>>20813587

'the manner in which you/someone relates to me/conducts their relationship with me/interacts with me"

despite being quite hard to translate naturally it's quite a str8forward concept here m8. pick the one that suits the contex the most

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>修身斉家治国平天下
Nice

[Anonymous No.]

chinese is cooler than japanese

[Anonymous No.]

I'm now on the edge of buying unlocking japanese since the dolly lessons were unironically good. Does it really add to the video lessons or is the content already covered by the video lessons?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20813632
>修身斉家治国平天下
those who wish to rule the land must first cultivate their own characters, then manage their families, then govern their states; only then can they bring peace to the land​

Such basic and correct philosophy, is thrown in the trash by westerners. Also, consider how anti-democratic it is. This is Chinese, isn't it?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20813074
damn i bet i would have to pay mattkun to get him to reply to me like that nowadays

[Anonymous No.]

>>20813666
>This is Chinese, isn't it?
Probably but I've mined it in a vn.

[Anonymous No.]

>spending money to learn japanese

[Anonymous No.]

You should be able to read this if you use anki.

ここで改めて名乗らせてもらうとしよう。尾張幕府家鳴将軍家直轄預奉所――軍所総監督、奇策士とがめだ

[Anonymous No.]

>>20813666

it's from the book of rites (or rights as one of our retarded djters might say), so yea

[Anonymous No.]

>>20813680

i can read it's the title of some bakufu military officer & their name. that's good enough for me

[Anonymous No.]

>>20813680
what happens if u can read it and u arent a idiot tard card user

[Anonymous No.]

>>20812076
>>20812113
why would you want to assist in the decline of Japan by infesting it with more weebs/foreign scum though?

[Anonymous No.]

A pretty song for /djt/. Don't misread 咲い like I did.

からたちの花が咲いたよ。
白い白い花が咲いたよ。

からたちのとげはいたいよ。
青い青い針のとげだよ。

からたちは畑の垣根よ。
いつもいつも通る道だよ。

からたちも秋はみのるよ。
まろいまろい金のたまだよ。

からたちのそばで泣いたよ。
みんなみんなやさしかつたよ。

からたちの花が咲いたよ。
白い白い花が咲いたよ。

[Anonymous No.]

>>20813710
The weebs are a trace, Japan isn't so delicate. They're certainly leeches though, I don't see how they're contributing to Japan. Also, the less 英語 nips know, the better.

[Anonymous No.]

here's a question 4 u lads

if you see a word like 下車 where it's super obvious what it means but could possibly be read more than 1 way do you look it up or just keep moving

[Anonymous No.]

>>20813725
i read it right the first time without looking it up and move on

[Anonymous No.]

>>20813725
したくるま obviously

[Anonymous No.]

>>20813729

but you don't know if you read it right without looking it up

it could have been カシャ for all you know

[Anonymous No.]

Ok you know the answer already. If you can't pronounce it properly you aren't actually reading. If you need to know how it's read then look it up

[Anonymous No.]

>>20813713
thanks for posting very beauty

[Anonymous No.]

>>20813710
Japan is pretty shit already. An injection of western culture would do it a lot of good.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20813758
pretty much agree

even tho japans still pretty homogeneous its not like modern culture especially amongst young ppl hasnt degraded into complete shit (see every rap vid post mid 00s i ever posted)

so outsiders that think japan is some kinda pure hana is completely fucken deluded and its time they come play with the rest of the world

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>………
>……
>…

[Anonymous No.]

>>20813758
hahahaha luckily you have no say in it

[Anonymous No.]

>>20813781
now thats a culture injection

[Anonymous No.]

>>20813774
>>20813758
yeah there's a difference between western "culture" with things like shorter workdays and less restrictive emotions versus the kind of mutt trash that moves to japan without even knowing Japanese or the disgusting dark skinned "refugee" types.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20813737
no, idk why but its literally impossible for me to be wrong
the 下 just felt like a げ to me there and not a か

[Anonymous No.]

i hate random idioms that could possibly not be idioms like 足を洗う took me a minute to figure out what i was reading had anything to do w/ washing feet

[Anonymous No.]

>>20813797

it's a philosophical question. you're focusing too much on the specifics here. you're right that it's generally obvious what reading it is b/c the right reading just sounds better in your head if you've read a lot, but you can't be certain without checking.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20813758
Everywhere has pro's and cons, everybody has different tastes. Personally I loved living in japan. Cost of livig was cheap, I like the cute cartoon characters everywhere, it's like an anime version of Disneyland took over the country. The people are chill as fuck. Most people love gaijin there and the ones that hate us are usually quiet about it. Nicer toilets, better food, festivals and block parties all the time, most activities to do per capita in the world, great technology, great zoo's, etc. I guess if you like loud obnoxious people you won't like it there.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20813803
truth is reading is a sham and i learn from listening practice instead of worrying about shredinger's kanji

[Anonymous No.]

>>20813818
clearly u havent been to the anti corean rallies

[Anonymous No.]

>>20813818
>great zoo's

the zoos in japan are absolutely shit lmao. they have tiny ass cages for like 100 animals. it's depressing as fuck

also who gives a fuck about a countries zoos? very strange thing to point out lol

[Anonymous No.]

>>20813838
I drove through in a cab where they had a political foreigner hating rally and they were wearing face masks and shit but even that wasn't really scary. Japanese society is really anti violence these days.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20813852
yah but theyre still loud and obnoxious

just give them a semi socially acceptable reason like racism (isnt japan fucked up) and they will pop right off

anyway unrelated heres a pic thats important for making sure u know whos who in modern japan u never know when u guys might need it so id keep it handy

[Anonymous No.]

if you dont think japs are loud and obnoxious you've never been to shibuya at night

[Anonymous No.]

nice we got some resident japan cultural experts. remember this thread is about learning japanese and mattvsjapan try to keep it on topic. also lmao ` all the people here that have a reading disability where they can't read vertically

[Anonymous No.]

>>20813845
I like animals bro. True the zoos aren't that great compared to the US, so that was the only bad example. Really nice aquarium in Okinawa though.

[Anonymous No.]

Why do eroge have an escape button?

[Anonymous No.]

he's back boys
https://twitter.com/sentenceminer

[Anonymous No.]

what a cursed post

[Anonymous No.]

japan has both the worst and the best toilets in the world

[Anonymous No.]

>The only way I can enjoy a lot of my immersion is to make a game out of how many words I can pick out.

when you're just a normal ass dude who loves japanese

[Anonymous No.]

>>20813894
man dont let logan paul see this

[Anonymous No.]

>>20813895
when you have literally 0% comprehension and would be better off watching 10000 hours of subbed anime instead of trying to learn nihongo through osmosis with idol programs

[Anonymous No.]

btw even tho its literally a hole in the ground its actually a proper toilet because squatting is the natural way every1 should shit and if u actually sit on a toilet ur going against nature and jesus

[Anonymous No.]

>>20813888
https://youtu.be/k1AHaW3Ir6I?t=133
ナイス

[Anonymous No.]

what's a good i+1 light novel? matt says i need to read for 2 hours every day from i+1 LNs

[Anonymous No.]

>>20813894
Arent those toilets for females?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20813959
that depends on your skill level. nothing will be i+1 at the start

[Anonymous No.]

Can someone remind me of the name of the grammatical rule that utilizes くて in verbs and stuff? I fucking forgot everything again.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20813758
>An injection of western culture would do it a lot of good
Yea because everybody needs obesity, aids, homeless drug addicts, and retards.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20814025

くて is an adjectival form. i have no idea what ur asking desu

[Anonymous No.]

>>20813962
Nah, they are toilets for chinese people.

[Anonymous No.]

What jcartoon should I watch?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20814025
well u need to conjugate ない to attach て to it so to do that u conjugate it to なく then throw the て on there or something like that

[Anonymous No.]

>>20813921
Is there such a thing as a japanese female who doesn't cover their mouth with their hands when laughing? It's so fucking common that there are even theories that this is basically cultural inheritance from back when married women inked their teeth black.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20814051
My european granny does this too.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20814051
i literally seeked to a part in that vid immediately where a girl laughed and didnt cover her mouth i think ur just pushing ur own delusion here

[Anonymous No.]

>>20813984
true. are there any series you enjoyed that you would recommend?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20814059
it's incredibly common.
at least 90% of japanese females do it
hence why even among japanese the theory i mentioned above is used as a common "explanation"

[Anonymous No.]

>>20814051
Depends on the personality, how relaxed they are, how traditional they are, who they're around. Generally teeth showing is unattractive most places of the world and comparative to a horse face.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20814060
Not that anon BUT: KINOS
FUCKIN
TABI

[Anonymous No.]

>>20814051

my gf doesnt

[Anonymous No.]

>>20814060
if u dont have something u want turn back now its pointless

>>20814062
i mean dont u naturally wanna cover ur mouth if ur gonna have it gaping wide having a nice lmao?

im a girl btw

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>>20814060
i found konosuba to be remarkably easy, there's not a lot of fantasy/magic exposition like im most isekai. But really what's more important than easiness is how much you want to read it, go through the ranobe on itazuraneko and see what you're interested in

[Anonymous No.]

>>20814069
Should caption it "problem gaijin?"

[Anonymous No.]

学びたくないと学びたくはないの違い didn't gimme any results on google. i'm assuming that extra は stuck in there just makes it more polite?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20814076
thanks dude. everyone tells me to watch the anime so ill try reading it instead

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[Anonymous No.]

>>20814085

it makes it more emphatic.

see #3 https://dictionary.goo.ne.jp/jn/172815/meaning/m0u/%E3%81%AF/

[Anonymous No.]

>>20814085
別に関係なくはない

[Anonymous No.]

>>20814085
i mean は basically limits to just that thing and separates it from other stuff so 学びたくはない but maybe they want to do something else or they will follow it up with something after that

[Anonymous No.]

>>20813798
wow, well after reading this i have to wash my hands of this thread.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20814069
her nose kinda looks 3d.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20814107
and 学びたくない is just a straightforward statement forgot to add that bit

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>>20814118

that's pretty obviously idiomatic even to a non-native english speaker like me.

the sentence mine was in was

殺虫瓶のなかの青酸カリに魅せられて、どうしても足を洗うことがで出来なくなった者さえいるそうだ。

i had to look up what 青酸カリ was to see if it affects your ability to wash your legs or something first lol

[Anonymous No.]

>>20814123
>>20814107

only one definition of は carries that meaning, not this one

please refer to the dictionary as above

[Anonymous No.]

>>20814122

that's because it is a 3d filter 名探偵アノンくん

[Anonymous No.]

why are u referring to a grammar dictionary instead of just memorizing it

flashtards assemble

[Anonymous No.]

>>20814135
needs more context at least. people always post contextless shit with minimal information asking about nuance

[Anonymous No.]

i did memorise it, i'm merely linking the dictionary so that you may make a flashcard from the definitions easily

[Anonymous No.]

>>20814171
>needs more context at least.

nope. this kind of usage is strictly emphatic.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20814171
I mean i just wanted to know the general difference between the two. The verb itself didn't matter it's just what came to mind. The reason i thought it had to do with politeness is because i feel like i only ever see keigo speaking characters do it.

>>20814098
>>20814107
Thanks.

[Anonymous No.]

I started doing Core 6k in August of 2017. I wanted to finish the deck in less than a year which was very possible, but because of life and other things, it took me about half a year longer. During the past year, I've grown very impatient and bored with Core 6k. I wanted to do subs2srs, sentence mine visual novels with Yomichan, read light novels and manga, watch more dramas and Nihongo No Mori videos, finally go through Tae Kim, DoBJG and my ShinKanzen Master textbook and so on.

But because I'm fucking retarded, I couldn't do any of that because I had Core 6k sitting there. Every time I did something else, I just thought to myself "I could spend this time working on Core 6k instead. It's not smart to learn from a thousand different resources at once. And what's the point of learning vocab from some other place when I'm still not done with Core 6k?". I just felt uncomfortable spending my time on other things when I had such a huge deck sitting there.

Now I've got no more stupid lists to grind, and with the vocabulary I've acquired, I can finally do some more productive things with Japanese :)

And to everybody out there who's still grinding the core decks: Good luck and keep fighting!! I was tempted to keep going with the Core 10k, but this fucking circus has to stop now, lol.

[Anonymous No.]

cursed post

[Anonymous No.]

>>20814234
>It's not smart to learn from a thousand different resources at once.
Nah, learning from as many sources as possible is optimal.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20814234
No one could be this retarded. Tae Kim first, morans.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20814135
>>20814187
It's the same は genius, meanings 2 and 3 in the dictionary you linked are pretty heavily related. In certain contexts it could even be explained better by contrast/limitation.

Another dictionary (明鏡) straight up defines 3 by extending 2:
対比の前提となる事柄が不明確であったり、通常の様子であったりすると、(3)の限定や強調を表すようになる。

And a third (新明解) only includes two senses, both loosely describing that it creates a limitation:
(一)判断の対象や叙述の内容がその範囲内に限られることを表わす。「この紙―白い／映画―よく見る／箱―大きいのがいい／親に―話すべきだ／すぐに―分からない／値段―高いが、品―いい／会い―したが、話―しなかった／知って―いるが、今―言えない／雨が降ると―思っていなかった／不合理な話で―ある〔＝本当に不合理な話だ〕」
(二)その叙述内容の成り立つ条件に限定を加えることを表わす。「食べて―寝、食べて―寝する〔＝食べているか寝ているかのどっちかだ。赤ん坊の生活の描写もしくはなまけ者の形容〕／毎日顔を出して―催促する〔＝そこに来て催促することを日課のようにしている〕／東京―神田の生まれ」

Don't argue about fucking は in a short clause with zero context.

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we got ourselves a live one boys

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>>20814234
At this point I'm convinced the anki core deck has delayed more people in learning japanese than helped them. Why anyone would continue after 2k words instead of grinding yourself is beyond me.

[Anonymous No.]

It's just trolling, can't be convinced by that.

[Anonymous No.]

it's not trolling, this shit actually happens to people

[Anonymous No.]

Reply to this post with your best image if you はゲイ

[Anonymous No.]

no one actually understands wa and ga, not even the emperor

[Anonymous No.]

年中しがみついていることばかりを強要しづづける、この現実のうっとうしさとくらべて、なんという違いだろう。

is the 強要しづづける modifying 'この現実'のうっとうしさ' in this sentence?

[Anonymous No.]

Okay, the meme is old already.
は - topic particle
が - subject marker particle

[Anonymous No.]

が means but

[Anonymous No.]

>>20814384
yes

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>>20814234
>finally go through Tae Kim

you fucked up by not starting this immediately.

do you think you need to anki through 6000 words before you can learn grammar structures? holy shit dude

[Anonymous No.]

>>20814405

i'm just wondering what he's comparing in that case, because there's no different topic before that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20814433
it sounds like there probably is, so maybe it's something you're missing in the context
can't help you there unless you post it all

[Anonymous No.]

holy shit what did i just tab into

>>20814263
relax epic は guy

[Anonymous No.]

You 全員 probably think 頗る is a 動詞 lol.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20814457

the context is basically about how sand is always moving and doesn't facilitate life very well

here's the full page

[Anonymous No.]

dohmo konnichiwa gay desu

[Anonymous No.]

>>20814480
he's comparing sand and how surprisingly lively it is to the うっとうしさ of the 現実

[Anonymous No.]

btw it's not が it's んが even dolly sama does this properly so you literally have no excuse

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>>20814509

i thought that too but to me '年中しがみついていることばかりを強要しづづける' seems like it's describing the situation that inevitably results from constantly moving sand, which is why i was confused, but i suppose it could also be describing normality in comparison to movement

[Anonymous No.]

if youre an anime character or an old faggot announcer maybe

[Anonymous No.]

どうしてこのスレはそんなにシットですか

[Anonymous No.]

どうしてわたしはそんなにゲイですか

[Anonymous No.]

どうして「僕はゲイ」じゃなくて、「わたしはゲイ」がお決まりの台詞ですか。「僕」は大体ゲイ達のみに使われるでしょ。

[Anonymous No.]

お前らにわたし以外使う資格がないからだ

[Anonymous No.]

>character うそぶく a word in kansaiben then returns to standard japanese
What is the meaning of this?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20814622
ゲイは二種類いるな。上ゲイと下ゲイんだ。

[Anonymous No.]

ゲイのはおれにすぎない

[Anonymous No.]

sorry for asking this here but i don't have anywhere else to ask. what am i supposed to do in the very first (1.A) exercise of minna no nihongo? i got the other ones i've seen so far where they say some guy is x or y and you have to write an affirmative or negative sentence wrt to it, but the first exercise doesn't make a lick of sense to me

[Anonymous No.]

lowest IQ post of the year award just got swept up early

[Anonymous No.]

>>20814673
Your teacher is supposed to help you with that

[Anonymous No.]

>>20814670
一段活用動詞みたいですね。

[Anonymous No.]

i>nts djt is dead riaju
リア充の参上を注意

[Anonymous No.]

>>20814622
Thats like getting confused over seeing a female character using 俺 or 僕. In the homogames i've played i've seen characters even use オイラ.

[Anonymous No.]

i get it. the 1.A page shows sentence structure and the highlighted terms are the questions asked to get those answers. faggots!

[Anonymous No.]

>>20814592
わたしとそっくりだね爆笑

[Anonymous No.]

whats the difference between toshita vs taru

[Anonymous No.]

>>20814808

one is more formal/grandiose

[Anonymous No.]

i dont fuckin know what do i look like a language nerd

[Anonymous No.]

>>20814051
its because they think their laughing face is embarrassing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20813725
look up everything but always guess first.. unless you dont care about being able to listen and speak correctly.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20808649
vncore doesn't have furigana. or sentences. you're using a different deck.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20814836
get a kanji tattoo on your forehead

[Anonymous No.]

what's the kanji for ゲイ

[Anonymous No.]

>>20815094
私

[Anonymous No.]

Matt and people like him should not be trusted blindly. If you don't know which education they have (have they a college/university degree?) and what knowledge they have about teaching Japanese, you shouldn't take them serious.

Let's dispel some myths
>you have to be in Japan to learn real Japanese
bullshit. In times with internet and other communication methods, it is much more economical and more likely faster to stay at home and learn the language before visiting Japan. Small talk street Japanese (which will be the only Japanese you will hear on the streets) is worth nothing.
>AJATT/MIA is the best method to learn Japanese
You make one MAJOR mistake: You are not living in Japan. If you learn Japanese outside of Japan you have to combine Japanese with the languages you use. NEVER isolate languages. If you have to talk in English all day, then try to find a way to talk in English, but at the same time improve your Japanese (like thinking for yourself how would I say it in Japanese), but never isolate yourself. Your second/third language should be a part of your life and not an artificial time waste.
>don't use textbooks or anything else which is not anime/manga
Textbooks were written exactly for people who want to learn Japanese. Don't try to skip textbooks. They are the only (cheapest) way to give you a "logical" way through the language. After you have finished all basic/intermediate/advanced textbooks, you know what the language is about. After you have finished the textbooks you will learn much faster and have a solid knowledge about Japanese.
>Heisig's RTK is a time waste/Anki is a time waste
RTK and Anki are the fastest way to learn a new language. Especially RTK is mandatory for non Asian natives. If you found a better way, then you are either lying or you have found the perpetuum mobile. Also if you are like Matt and overdo Anki, just remember one thing: Do you really need to know how every chemical molecule is written in Japanese? If you don't even know the word in your own language, don't waste your time learning words you will never use.
>pitch accent is important
No. If you learn and speak Japanese, you will create the best pitch accent naturally. No one is perfect and everyone has a dialect. The question is not "how good can I speak Japanese" the question is only "Do I get what I want with my Japanese?". A language is not science. There is no right or wrong. A language changes over time and never try to waste too much time with small things. There are important moments where you want to speak "perfectly", but those moments are in a speech or discussion where you would prepare yourself anyway. For normal conversation just speak as good as you can. If the other person understands you, you are golden.

In my experience most people who don't have a guidance through Japanese quit after a few years. Just look at Matt. He is at a point where he has a feeling that he wasted his time with Japanese. This will happen if you try learn Japanese without any guide like a textbook or a teacher. Also if you can't use the language in your daily life, you are just wasting your time. Also one thing you have to consider: Most people spend much less time learning a language than they actually think they do. Matt for example wasted 6 months of his life in Japan. This includes the preparations, the time abroad, and the time making himself comfortable at home again. I would even say this one "trip" wasted at least a year of his life where he created no good Japanese friends or career opportunities (including little to no Japanese progress).

You need a guide to learn a language. Don't make the mistake and learn without a guide. Like I said a language is no science. You have to literally copy something which was created by humans and changes over time. You literally have to become a Chinese and copy the shit out of this language and the best way is with a guide which was created to make as much sense as possible from zero to "nipponjin".

One last thing: Quality over quantity. Every textbook you use, every Anki deck you use, and everything you do to learn the language has to be as good as possible. Don't waste your time with "test" decks or new textbooks which haven't been used by others. Always look that you use the best way to learn the language which are confirmed by a lot of people that this was their best way to learn the language. Also don't try to think you are Japanese. You are not. Learn Japanese with this in mind that you have better ways to learn the language than nihonjin. You aren't a baby. You already know one language and you should use this to your advantage.

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>>20815114
At least you're not trolling.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20815114
>If you have to talk in English all day, then try to find a way to talk in English, but at the same time improve your Japanese (like thinking for yourself how would I say it in Japanese), but never isolate yourself.
>If you learn and speak Japanese, you will create the best pitch accent naturally.
>Textbooks were written exactly for people who want to learn Japanese. Don't try to skip textbooks.
>RTK and Anki are the fastest way to learn a new language.
you could btfo matt from many different angles but you chose the dumbest and wrongest ones

[Anonymous No.]

>>20815114
just wanted to say i havent read this yet but wktk ktkr etc this better be good

[Anonymous No.]

>>20815114
長過ぎる；読んだなかった

[Anonymous No.]

ok trip report it doesnt shit on matt enough and it projects too much idiot bullshit that has nothing to do with language learning

link the krashen vid boys

next

[Anonymous No.]

oh yes and of course a hearty 長すぎ読んでない from me as well

[Anonymous No.]

i feel relaly bad that dude wrote a huge wall of garbage so ill throw u one actual bone

if u try to learn japanese and take it out of the element of enjoying japan and the things within u will never learn it and u will also never enjoy japan and its things

quite the lose-lose innit mates

keep that in mind before u consult ur next guide or read ur next textbook or do ur next flashcard

[Anonymous No.]

thats the rub really
most of the people who try to learn japanese dont even like japan and are just learning it beacuse ???

[Anonymous No.]

>>20815260
My ex was kind of like that. She couldn't care less about Japan but she did JET to escape this town and her life and me.

[Anonymous No.]

最愛の恋人たち

[Anonymous No.]

Did Yomichan-AnkiConnect stop working for anyone else here? Firefox users

[Anonymous No.]

>>20815260
no i mean the way ppl go about consciously trying to learn japanese in general is no different from trying to learn grammar or vocab in isolation theyre taking the japan out of japanese

[Anonymous No.]

>>20815275
she did jet but then started doing jav

[Anonymous No.]

I'm going to move to japan and write light novels!

[Anonymous No.]

i hope u can achieve ur dream

[Anonymous No.]

>>20815395
I'm hoping that by the time i'm good enough at japanese to write, the timing will be perfect for a renaissance of the isekai genre.

[Anonymous No.]

i still hope u achieve ur dream even if u like and want to write shit garbage

[Anonymous No.]

is harry potter isekai

[Anonymous No.]

>>20815114
i disagree for the most part

[Anonymous No.]

>>20815297
That happened to me and I had to restart my PC.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20815489
Tried that, but it didn't work. I'll try again later.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20813397
>ankidrones
>read books
please learn the essential djeet vocab before posting again

[Anonymous No.]

>>20813888
>The only way I can enjoy a lot of my immersion is to make a game out of how many words I can pick out.
he aint back he dead
shoulda coulda woulda eroge

[Anonymous No.]

someone spoke japanese in my dream
i think this is the turning point

[Anonymous No.]

>hot dogger
You what?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20815605
That's nothing. I actually saw my anki card for 森 in my dream. to be honest that's pretty neat

[Anonymous No.]

>>20815630
good kanji
森林
木林森

[Anonymous No.]

>>20815627
Japanese trying to sound cool with Engrish terms usually ends up in cringe.
Baldr Sky has a lot more of that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20815661
this guys not a hot dogger

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>20815783
no...it can't be

[Anonymous No.]

Oh shit kitsuneko.net is down (temporarily I hope)
Any good alternative to get JP anime subs?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20815627
From Baldr Sky Dive 2 opening movie.

[Anonymous No.]

あなたを愛してるよ

[Anonymous No.]

Whats the difference between ano, ano ne, and ano sa?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20815869
ano - um
ano ne - but you know/you know what
ano sa - pretty much like ano ne but masculine

[Anonymous No.]

djt help i can't learn japanese
does お前を永遠に閉じ込めて mean "you're trapped here forever" or "you trapped me here forever"?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20815909
を marks the object as お前 pretty obviously

[Anonymous No.]

>>20815909
sorry there's no cure for can't learn japanese

[Anonymous No.]

>>20815914
Thanks anon!

[Anonymous No.]

>>20815829
those ones shared by dolly sensei in her blog.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20813894
How are you supposed to go super saiyan if your sitting on a porcelain throne, dumbass?

[Anonymous No.]

I miss living in Japan. I am currently learning Japanese in school, and it makes me sad. :'(

[Anonymous No.]

>>20815966
How many years were you there? Did you pick up real nihongo as a child? Why are you still learning?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20815974
4 years. ages 12-16. No, I did not. I went to an American school. I've just now had an opportunity to begin learning.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20808858
Off yourself.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20815982

[Anonymous No.]

>>20815980
Cool, those are some interesting years.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20816012
Formative, I think you mean to say. I lived off base the entire time, spent like 99% of my time offbase outside going to school too.

[Anonymous No.]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lw-HKOKbEXY

is this considered 上手?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20816016
Well, they're all formative if a person is in growth. It's fun being a kid. Yuo must be in college now. I think if you supplement your class with anime you'll have lots of fun. You lived in Japan... you must have watched much more anime than the average American.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20816037
I'm not really that in to anime at all, to tell you the truth. I wasn't then and I'm not really into it now. I watch some sometimes if they interest me. I've seen stuff like Akira and NGE, but I'm not really an avid watcher. I've even tried to watch JOJO but it's been pretty hard for me to get into, admittedly.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20816045
Humn, if you're learning Japanese you have to watch your anime in Japanese with English subtitles from now on. Actually many English dubs ruin the show. Maybe watch a couple really different ones like Spice and Wolf, Aho-Girl, and Rozen Maiden. It's not for everyone and you may be too cool for it.

They say it takes 4-5 years to be decent at nihongo and you need to enjoy something in the language to keep you motivated. Some people like reading, games, anime, etc. I enjoy understanding what they're saying in the animes. After even half a year, you can decode quite a bit.

[Anonymous No.]

Jap with eng subs is literally the only way I watch anything besides NGE. Don't worry. This will be like week 4 for my learning.

[Anonymous No.]

Can someone help me with this sentence?
....ムービーから動きを起こしたり
The context is animation. Does it mean making a movie by moving (still pictures)? I understand したり form but the content of the sentence is confusing me.

[Anonymous No.]

any alternative to translate this kind of sentence?
xxxは増えている
where xxx is usually a noun/object or maybe cases. What I could think of is "the number of xxx is increasing" but if that used too much (i.e appeared many times in an interview) it became too repetitive so I'm searching for alternatives.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20816140
it seems like you're trying to translate something into english when you don't know english very well

[Anonymous No.]

>>20816140
figure it out case by case
amass, accumulate, surge in ..., rise in ..., more ..., etc
this is a learn nihongo thread not a learn to use the english thesaurus thread

[Anonymous No.]

>>20816154
You got me actually. I hate this autistic language (English).

[Anonymous No.]

To that anon who recommends EBpocket, do you know where I can download daijirin epwing?

[Anonymous No.]

she said that she wanted a coat for a present

does this mean
>let's but it ourselves
or
>you (the girl) buy it yourself and i'll go with you
?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20816226
Ctrl+F "epwing" on the cornucopia page in the guide, there's a mega folder of J-J dictionaries.
Daijirin is in the kokugo folder. I also recommend Meikyou.
There's also this big collection: http://www.mediafire.com/file/hr30l1pw004gac9 it has the NHK accent dictionary if you're interested in that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20816232
It's a softer way to suggest "buy it yourself" than saying 自分で買いなさい
Kind of like telling a kid "let's walk slowly ok" to slow them down

[Anonymous No.]

>>20816247
thanks

[Anonymous No.]

>>20816237
Is there an alternative to daijirin for pitch accent notation. The nhk guide is just a diagram for the patterns as far as I could tell.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20815493
Something maybe be using the port it connects on

[Anonymous No.]

>>20816257
The NHK pitch accent dictionary should include full audio and diagrams for every word.
If you're looking for one that includes both pitch accent + definitions, there's Shinmeikai. It has more succinct and purist definitions but it's also smaller so there might be some words you won't find.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20816276
I should add it has the same notations as daijirin.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20815627
レインはかっこいいね！

[Anonymous No.]

What's the difference between 未だ　(いまだ) and　未だ　(まだ)

And are both of these always written in Kana? Why the fuck are there Kanji for words that are written in Kana? And why is it so difficult to get a fucking actual answer from an actual fucking japanese speaker on a website used for language exchange? They're always like "oh yeah that's correct.." Me: "Is it really correct though?" "Okay maybe not 100% correct lol"
Jesus fuck.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20816473
stop worrying about this tedious retarded shit when you still suck cock at japanese
just say まだ

[Anonymous No.]

>>20816473
ひつじだ？

[Anonymous No.]

>>20816481
I would but when i said まだ my langauge partner said いまだ but i can't actually get a fucking answer out of her as to why

[Anonymous No.]

>>20815114
>people like him should not be trusted blindly
I take this advice to heart and not believe anything in your post.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20815114
>Textbooks are good
Textbooks were written based on old as learning methods that even our outdated shit schools still use. We have learned so much about how humans learn, yet our school systems haven't been modernized in the past 100+ years. Textbooks just push you out of the door with retarded phrases and don't teach much about the grammar decisions that have been made behind your back and why until much later. Textbooks are a waste of time. Teachers are a waste of time too, because like i said, the way we learn at schools or in classroom settings is so fucking outdated that it's probably less than 20% effieciency (this figure is entirely made up by me).

[Anonymous No.]

>>20816473
dont ask stupid questions before you watch your prescribed 10000 hours of eng subbed anime
to answer your stupid question まだ is usually (almost always) kana so 未だ = いまだ
未だに is always いまだに, there is no まだに
いまだ is stiffer than まだ, and doesn't have any of the extra, more colloquial meanings that まだ does as in ゴールはまだ先だ or まだ間に合う etc

[Anonymous No.]

>>20816574
technically not a stupid question because there's a real difference between まだ and 未だに that goes way beyond "le colloquial"

[Anonymous No.]

>>20808781
https://ncode.syosetu.com/n4719ff

[Anonymous No.]

>>20816582
any question asked by a stupid person is a stupid question
woulda been a different story if they asked about 未だに but that aint the case innit

[Anonymous No.]

are english subtitles actually helpful to learning or is it just something dekinais use as a crutch

[Anonymous No.]

>>20816670
They are harmful. When you learned your first language you got everything from the context. The brain is good at it.
Subtitles make you learn less.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20816595
brainlet

[Anonymous No.]

>>20816670
if you must use subtitles, use japanese ones.
like Animelon

[Anonymous No.]

>>20816686
that's what i thought. people just don't want not to understand.

[Anonymous No.]

you morons from /int/ can go back now, i know you're slow in the head but the thread over there's been up for several hours now

[Anonymous No.]

>>20816670
Yes or you will have no idea what they are saying and what it sounds like. After the 10k of english subbed anime you can watch anime without subs.

[Anonymous No.]

From Tae Kim:

富士山が見えなくなった。

How the hell did 見える become みえく? I simply don't get it at all. Grammar point is using する and なる with にhttp://www.guidetojapanese.org/learn/grammar/surunaru

[Anonymous No.]

>>20816739
>みえく
?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20816739
見える negative is 見えない
adverb form of 見えない is 見えなく

[Anonymous No.]

>>20816739
It's 見えなくなった not みえく what the fuck are you talking about

[Anonymous No.]

>>20816739
みえ（る）＋な（い）＋く＋な（る）＋った

[Anonymous No.]

>>20816759
Thank you. Man, that's confusing. Is it because 見えない is an i-adjective so you remove い and add く?

>>20816764
Because the なった part is "became" and not part of 見える, keep studying bub

[Anonymous No.]

>>20816232
She's cute.

[Anonymous No.]

it breaks me to say this but if you cant even read tae kim by yourself the forecast on learning nihongo is looking pretty grim

[Anonymous No.]

>done core 2k
>reads first 5 stories of GJ Bu
>200 new anki entries
The suffering doesn't end does it?

[Anonymous No.]

it breaks me to say this but if you are still browsing this thread the forecast on learning nihongo is looking pretty grim

[Anonymous No.]

How can Matt be so perfect?. I wish I was like him.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20816808
LNs are different to news paper articles. Surprise surprise.

[Anonymous No.]

Learning Japanese is FUN.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20816792
>Because the なった part is "became" and not part of 見える, keep studying bub
Are you retarded? Why are you responding to me when that's the exact thing i pointed out?

[Anonymous No.]

Core2k is so outdated and the premise of it is fundamentally at odds with the goals of learners in this thread. The guide should really be updated to recommend at least vncore instead.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20816843
jokes on you the damage is already done and i'm at 2300 words!

[Anonymous No.]

It only takes 10 years to do core 72k with default settings.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20816739
>>20816792
are you asking if みえる becomes fucking く godan or something
みえる is just becoming みえ which allows ない to attach to it
ない is an i adjective and becoming なく allows なる to attach to it
maybe watch dolly lol

[Anonymous No.]

今日もお願いします

[Anonymous No.]

alternatively don't think too hard about how grammar works all detailed like until you get a little good at the language

[Anonymous No.]

>>20816917
not the same guy but how do i endure cure-dollys voice? i can't do no sound - subtitles only because i have ADHD

[Anonymous No.]

what do you guys call the 川 in 巡 and 災? i say くくく when i write it out

[Anonymous No.]

i personally call it curving river radical

[Anonymous No.]

or radical 47

[Anonymous No.]

the flood

[Anonymous No.]

i don't know the japanese names for radicals desu

[Anonymous No.]

>>20816938
Replay the video until you understand.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20816843
It is a little outdated, but it's pretty relevant if you happen to live/work in Japan. You actually do see words like 区役所 or 春分 which would be utterly useless in any other context

[Anonymous No.]

it's まがりかわ
as opposed to かわ

[Anonymous No.]

the turning point that made me start to distrust core is when i got to the word for "persimmon tree"

[Anonymous No.]

>>20816947
flood

[Anonymous No.]

>>20816976
thx for the official answer. i like seeing what other people come up with too

[Anonymous No.]

its 2019 and ppl are still whining about core 2k and other flashcards lmao

>>20816983
i dont wanna endorse core but that sounds really important tbqh see pic

[Anonymous No.]

what the f*** is a persimmon anyways?
it's like 桐 i don't know what it actually is just that it's a tree and you call it きり and japanese love making stuff out of its wood

[Anonymous No.]

don't really know why ppl give a fuck about how weird core is, i mean I guess if you have absolutely no long term language goals and just want to read yotsubato it's a bad idea but knowing vocab that's common in newspapers and shit is just part of learning a language

[Anonymous No.]

>>20817005

persimmons are a really common/cheap fruit in Japan. they're pretty nice. knowing the kanji doesn't really help tho cause they just write it in katakana if you're in a supermarket

[Anonymous No.]

you really can't follow the logic of learning a small but useful amount of vocab out of context before going into context to learn the rest of vocab? example why would you learn persimmon tree over watasi? makes no sense if you're actually in it for the long-term cuz all real learning takes place in context and the sooner you get there the better. learning less immediately useful words in core is essentially a waste of time

[Anonymous No.]

i know quite a few English tree names but I don't think I could actually pick them out from a line up desu, except maybe a pine tree or a ヤシ which I've forgotten the English name somehow

[Anonymous No.]

>>20817036
imagine not knowing one of the most popular snacks amongst middle aged men in japan and thinking u know japanese

[Anonymous No.]

the core still mostly provides the necessary vocab in the earliest parts. persimmons must be pretty late in the 6k I imagine although I don't have a clue

realistically you should be reading and doing flash cards so you can get a feel for the language and the most common words anyway while picking up vocab in anki

[Anonymous No.]

picking up vocab from anki sucks
i might remember persimmon tree now because i just saw it on that picture not from anki

[Anonymous No.]

>>20817071
now u are some1 that has more promising nihongo prospects

[Anonymous No.]

>>20817064
If they are doing core then I don't think they think their japanese ability is anything but shit.

[Anonymous No.]

technically 柿の木 is the persimmon tree, 柿 is the fruit itself

[Anonymous No.]

damn i just got the kanji for persimmon to write in RTK talk about timing

[Anonymous No.]

i wonder how much benefit it would provide an absolute beginner to spend a week doing like 500 extremely common and easy words in anki
doesn't matter to me now though

[Anonymous No.]

it wouldnt be nearly as much benefit as me telling u why ur a retard if u dont know kaki no tane itt

and thats a fact >: )

[Anonymous No.]

There are people on this planet that do not know what 柿の木 is.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20816938
What is the story behind that voice?

[Anonymous No.]

ねむたあくなってきた

[Anonymous No.]

だいじょうぶ？

[Anonymous No.]

Since nobody is willing to post the Anki decks here, is it worth buying those Tango books to get the decks for them from M*tt or N*ke?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20817268
they will be better than core2k but if you're not fixated on sentences then do vncore. desu $15 isn't a lot to invest in japanese if ur just a beginner. probably works better than genki which costs more than twice that

[Anonymous No.]

>>20817284
Where the hell are you getting those Tango books for $15? Shipping to the US is almost double that price when I looked.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20817326
oh lol yeah it's probably not worth it then just do vncore bro

[Anonymous No.]

>>20816915
Where can I find core 72k? I want to try it, sounds fun

[Anonymous No.]

>>20816974
It's not "pretty relevant" if you happen to live/work in Japan. If you did you wouldn't even consider it to be relevant. There are so many words necessary for functioning in daily life, even as a wageslave, that it doesn't even come close to touching on that the idea that it's relevant is laughable. Nobody is going to expect you to know all the different business words when you don't even know the difference between "irritated" and "angry", nor should you. You can't actually function on 6000 words. No, you can't.

The ONLY purpose of core vocabulary decks is to make it easier for the user to consume real Japanese so they can learn the words that are actually important to their lifestyle. You cannot defend using a frequency list made from decades-old newspapers when that is the goal.

[Anonymous No.]

So VNcore is the only sensible anki deck to use?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20817524
there are other sensible decks, vncore is just particularly suited for dropping early and mining from VNs

[Anonymous No.]

Is it absolutely essential that I learn On/Kun? I'm starting to get into kanji studies and it feels a bit overwhelming to try and soak in all that information, along with the meaning of the characters as well. Or is it something I'm just going to have to nut up and tough through?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20817579
assuming this isn't a reddit repost read the guide before asking questions

[Anonymous No.]

>>20817579
fucking hell no do not waste your time trying to learn kanji while learning their on/kun

[Anonymous No.]

but whats the point of learning kanji if u dont know how to pronounce them

[Anonymous No.]

kanji dont have pronunciations but japanese words can be written with kanji and japanese can understand what the japanese word is

[Anonymous No.]

kanji dont have pronunciations next

[Anonymous No.]

Do not reply to bait.

[Anonymous No.]

but kanji do have pronunciations

several of them in some cases

[Anonymous No.]

not really

[Anonymous No.]

check ando mate

https://www.sljfaq.org/afaq/kanji-pronunciation.html

[Anonymous No.]

those aren't pronunciations though

[Anonymous No.]

i mean the title of the article doesnt lie

[Anonymous No.]

>>20817649
How intensely should I focus on readings when studying Kanji? Should I just worry about meanings and let the vocab fill in the blanks?
I'm already studying grammar, reading, and vocab.

[Anonymous No.]

Anyone got any 24 hour Japanese channels on YouTube recommendation?

Currently watching the QVC shopping channel. The news one seems to be stuck on repeat at the moment.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20817711
Whatever you do, do not listen to /djt/.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20817711
>Should I just worry about meanings and let the vocab fill in the blanks?
yes

[Anonymous No.]

>>20817695
but it does
>>20817711
kanji dont have meanings either

[Anonymous No.]

>>20817711
u should basically know a lot of things from watching 10000 hours of eng subbed anime and then the kanji is easy to remember cuz u know japanese words to tie them to

[Anonymous No.]

>>20817715
The 24/7 news is only worth watching twice a day. It's only the news sections of the channel so that it repeats after 15-30 minutes.

[Anonymous No.]

repetition is good

[Anonymous No.]

case and point

わたしはゲイ

[Anonymous No.]

destined for failure: kanji have meanings, kanji have pronunciations, thinks they need to learn it all but never do

destined for success: there are japanese words that can be written in different ways, need to understand what word is being pointed to when written with kanji, watch 10k hours of anime then start reading like a native

[Anonymous No.]

Is there some kind of epwing dictionary with kanji stroke order?

[Anonymous No.]

watch anime but not with english subtitles ever.

[Anonymous No.]

why would u watch anime when u cant understand anything or when something is just a colloquial expression lmao.

[Anonymous No.]

you see someone say itadakimasu and then they start eating or someone says sumimasen when they bump into someone. do this for 10k hours and imagine how much you will know. it's not that hard to learn from anime like you seem to think

[Anonymous No.]

to hear japanese with context thereby increasing your japanese ability

[Anonymous No.]

no weeb ever learned japanese by reading english subtitles for 10000 hours

[Anonymous No.]

I'm learning japanese by listening to 10000 hours of anime.

[Anonymous No.]

just listen to japanese with no guideposts to tell what things are and no checks from other humans on ur made up understanding is clearly the way to learn japanese lmfao.

[Anonymous No.]

yeah it's better to cripple your understanding of the language and culture by translating it into english even though the two languages have nothing in common

[Anonymous No.]

>>20817885
>no guideposts to tell what things are
thats what anime is for unless youre blind
>no checks from other humans
consistency between multiple points of reference
>ur made up understanding
your understanding of english is made up too

[Anonymous No.]

>>20817920
otoh u could just use eng subs correctly and no i dont mean by throwing them into the garbage

theyre only there to guide u not give u a hard binding english concept for the japanese

>>20817925
ah yes the classic "is anything real" argument

well yes im real ゲイ

[Anonymous No.]

it's questionable if using english is ever beneficial to learning japanese in any way

[Anonymous No.]

>>20817941
>"is anything real" argument
no im sayin it worked for eigo
are you sayin the only reason you know english is because people corrected you
what did they correct you in
oh yeah the language you already picked up pieces of without help

[Anonymous No.]

if u discard ur native language entirely from the start u have to work a lot harder to learn the next one cuz u do in fact have to do it like a baby while getting much lower quality input (like my posts)

[Anonymous No.]

>>20817968
i aint really for the english subs but this position is aight

[Anonymous No.]

>>20817965
its not so much i was corrected as i was shaped by society around me

as u can prolly guess this is already not applicable to most ppl itt for learning japanese so idk what u want here

[Anonymous No.]

the goal is literally to learn like a baby by watching and listening how people act and talk in different contexts

[Anonymous No.]

oh were all just roleplaying as babies itt ?? i thought i was dealing with actual infants haha ok now i understand

[Anonymous No.]

>>20816099
create motion with the help of video references

[Anonymous No.]

100,000,000,000,000,000,000 = one hundred quint-illion = 一垓

Why are the japanese so much more efficient than the rest of the world?

[Anonymous No.]

why isnt in yomichan the function to copy current entry data into the clipboard yet?

i miss this so hard from rikaisama days even after all this time.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20817982
if youre sayin it was personalized and directed at you im not sure how important that is in the beginning
but my argument was you aint gonna cripple yourself i dont have input on efficiency or w/e

[Anonymous No.]

>>20818008
bc you can hit ctrl + c and get the same effect

[Anonymous No.]

>>20818003
they were already ahead of the game when they grouped decimals by four places instead of three

[Anonymous No.]

>>20818018
I always wondered why they did that? Any particular benefit to it?

[Anonymous No.]

太古ゲイ達 show us your kanji grid

[Anonymous No.]

>>20818012
its not that u need personalized nihongo care like precision medicine but there needs to be some checks and balances in what ur doing (even if unbeknownst to you at the time is fine think invisible hand) where misunderstandings can be rectified through more input

like its even ok to read something as the literal words and not understand its a literal *snorts* turn of phrase for weeks and months and maybe even years if theres any chance that could be rectified through whatever it is u do with japanese

what breaks my heart is thinking about ppl who dont make it to that point of self correction

[Anonymous No.]

tfw you don't really know japanese since you learned it by comparing it to english concepts that don't exist in japan but you think you know it anyawys since your brain translates the japanese into english so fast that you think you're fluent and your entire understanding of the language is just one big gokai. meanwhile people doing 10k subs get a couple little gokais here and there but are of course corrected simply by getting more input

[Anonymous No.]

>>20818032
think they stole it from china but i dont know anything else

[Anonymous No.]

can the kanji grid work with anything but the core deck? it's incompatible with my rtk deck

[Anonymous No.]

>>20818047
anime 10k without subs*

[Anonymous No.]

tfw when i do my anki with visual and audio referencing instead of english and got mentalese to japanese asf

[Anonymous No.]

>>20818047
>tfw you don't really know japanese since you learned it by comparing it to english concepts
Didn't read further than this but thank god I started using j-j cards once I've finished the 2k deck.

[Anonymous No.]

luckily u dont compare it to english concepts just general feelings and contexts that u understand in english

thats what the subs are for ding dong

[Anonymous No.]

>>20818062
>ok time for anki
>see a pic of a dog
>oh i know this one
>hit next without even looking at the kanji
>do this for 3 hours
>ahhh time well spent thats enough japanese for today

[Anonymous No.]

your japanese can build off itself if you allow it but you keep throwing english into it for no reason

do monolingual cards
don't use eng subs

[Anonymous No.]

what part of do 10000 hours of eng subs then dont do any more eng subs dont u understand

u dont have to do them forever just for 10000 hours

[Anonymous No.]

>>20818067
>>20818083
You shouldn't be giving advice as a dekinai bro

[Anonymous No.]

why cant i read 10000 hours of translated eroge

[Anonymous No.]

>>20818088
it's an unfunny meme (internet joke) they are keeping alive muriyari style

[Anonymous No.]

>>20818078
I do the cards twice, the first time I go:
side A: Just kanji
side B: Kanji, Hiragana, audio, and pic

Then I have a mirror deck where I clone evey thing to:
side A: Just audio with hirgana hint field
side B: Kanji, hiragana, audio again, and pic

The pics are hand picked by me from research online. I use 1-4 pics and sometimes example sentences on about 10% of them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20818088
do u wanna nihongo fight me its been a while since a proper aikido session

save it for the start of the next thread id be happy to run u up the flagpole then

[Anonymous No.]

>>20818123
You shouldn't be talking like that as a small zako

[Anonymous No.]

a small small fry ? (learned this from subs btw)

nice redundancy bro if i were u id just take a recess now and 準備する ur 心 lol

[Anonymous No.]

>>20818153
You shouldn't be mixing japanese and english in this way as a dekinai.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20818168
go directly back to >>20818123

[Anonymous No.]

you have downs

[Anonymous No.]

>manga/anime: I sleep
>classical literature: real shit
>freestyle rap battle: ASCENDED

[Anonymous No.]

>>20818172
それでThe輪廻Continuesです

[Anonymous No.]

i'm sure the worst thing in the world for your japanese skill is to read this guy's japanese >>20818123

just avoid reading gaijin japanese in general

[Anonymous No.]

勝負ありですね

take me down to 爆笑 city where the weebs are green and their nihongo is shitty

: )

[Anonymous No.]

The guy stopped replying so I guess he takes the L and I take the shouri

[Anonymous No.]

idk who im even supposed to reply to anymore ur all hella 敗者 atm except this guy who is actually ftw >>20818179

[Anonymous No.]

hurrrr i have downs and i type stuff in japanese it must be good

[Anonymous No.]

lmfao imagine being that 羨ましい (also learned from subs ftw)

[Anonymous No.]

You better imagine learning japanese

[Anonymous No.]

id prefer if yall didnt fight cause im not good enough at nihongo to know whose gonna permanently cripple my nihongo but if youre gonna fight stop postin en eigo cause thats just too par for the course

[Anonymous No.]

man take ur パンピ ass posting and walk it outta here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pxjZM-d_ShI

collect urself and come back stronger 次回スレ

[Anonymous No.]

it's baffling to think there are people in the world who practice language by speaking to fellow gaijin who are also learning the language

[Anonymous No.]

people who avocate learning a language how babies learn are retarded. it takes natives years to even be able to understand basic sentences nevermind complex structures

do you want to wait 9 years just to have the reading skills of a child? just study properly and you'll get there in a couple of years instead

[Anonymous No.]

Just arrived at "Humble" and "Honorific" forms and the amount of vocabulary and rules you have to "relearn" just for these forms make me want to kill myself

What do?

[Anonymous No.]

It's either you pretend to know japanese by translating eng->jap internally forever or you learn like a baby and understand japanese fundamentally because your mentalese will be clean from any eigo.

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>20818246
the best people to learn from are not native speakers, it's people who have learned the language.

native speakers are fluent before they even enter school. no japanese can explain the function of こと behind a verb to you.
for them the meaning is just clear. similarly no fucking japanese knows what Te-Form is.

Best learning methods are taught by people who have learned themselves.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20818246
yeah but adults learn faster than babies with that method too. matt vs japan was 80% native japanese adult after just 3 years of immersion

[Anonymous No.]

>>20818277
>80% native japanese adult
oh shit what lab did he use to get tested

[Anonymous No.]

>>20818268
foreigners and natives both think that studying grammar will make you good at a language

[Anonymous No.]

who ? u mean this guy ? https://vocaroo.com/i/s0RYPh6WwowD

[Anonymous No.]

>>20818268
japanese don't know what te form is cuz it's made up gaijin grammar. they learn japanese grammar in school but there is little relation to that in jfl teaching materials

[Anonymous No.]

why was khatz so much more successful than matt

[Anonymous No.]

because khatz moved to japan after he learned japanese meanwhile matt learned japanese after he left japan

[Anonymous No.]

i mean khatz took half the time to get fluent. did matt's innovations just dirty the method or is it because he spent so much time learning archaic obscure shit

[Anonymous No.]

>>20818335
>i mean khatz took half the time to get fluent
i havent studied khatz but didnt he lie all the time

[Anonymous No.]

u cant dirty the natural method

also compare the khatz talkin shit with some homies to matt approaching random japanese ppl tryin to eat and chill at a school he doesnt even attend and proclaiming that hes going to become ichiban tuyoi

[Anonymous No.]

>>20818346
could be

[Anonymous No.]

>>20818121
Sounds like you spend a lot of time on anki. I hope you're making progress that you are satisfied with, anon!

[Anonymous No.]

Do you guys know any more stuff like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eyk4M--IhBk

It's pretty hard to find and yet it's so fucking useful.

[Anonymous No.]

khatz didn't know what させていただきます meant when he claimed he was fluent so i mean arguing about what fluency means is retarded. but also in that sense we also dont know when matt reached the same level that khatz was at when he claimed fluency

[Anonymous No.]

>>20818363
Does anybody remember the unkochan videos? I liked them on youtube but they seem to be deleted.

[Anonymous No.]

maybe you can't learn keigo from whatever shonen shit khatz watched

[Anonymous No.]

fresh unko for the boys

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rCMx9DGl9Y0

[Anonymous No.]

>>20818419
this is fantastic thanks

[Anonymous No.]

？

[Anonymous No.]

>>20818419
where can I buy those books?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20818439
u wanna talk about it or

[Anonymous No.]

why is hanasi written as 話 and not as 話し? Why do some other words do that as well?

[Anonymous No.]

I'll make a thread over 2 hours after this archives. That's enough time to maybe take a shower and go out for lunch. If you want to make the thread, just do it a little before 2 hours. I know some of you want to cancel it but 必 someone will make it.

[Anonymous No.]

dont make the thread go outside and play its a beautiful day

[Anonymous No.]

>>20818521
Because Japanese is a garbage language.
受付
受け付け
受付け
pretty much all of these is legal

[Anonymous No.]

>>20818521
Why is grass green anon-kun?

>>20818548
It's already dark you american pleb.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20818419
You know, they say that fetishes and paraphilia are usually formed in our early childhoods. I wonder if this stuff is the reason there's so much japanese scat porn.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20818569
i mean i only really know tubgirl u should tell us more about this

[Anonymous No.]

>>20818350
chill dude he lied to them he was a student so it wasnt weird at all

[Anonymous No.]

>>20818455
Yes what does it mean?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20818559
I thought the Japanese were all nice and orderly
>>20818563
But isn't 話し the 連用形 form of 話す?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20818578
http://highporn.net/search/videos?search_query=Scat
goes without saying but NSFW
Japan produces a lot of this kinda JAV

[Anonymous No.]

>>20818569
Probably.
I was shy when I was a kid and had some bad experiences with asshole school doctors, also been in hospital once with appendicitis.
Now I have a massive medical and public embarrassment fetish.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20818595
What the absolute fuck is medical embarrassment?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20818625
watch more JAV

[Anonymous No.]

>>20818590
this is just gross i dont "get" fecal fiends

[Anonymous No.]

>>20818585
されている

[Anonymous No.]

>>20818634
because you weren't exposed to >>20818419 as a 5 year old

[Anonymous No.]

i mean i read the book "everything poops" and i still didnt turn into a turd lover

[Anonymous No.]

err excuse me its called "everyone poops"

[Anonymous No.]

its this 1

[Anonymous No.]

>>20818663
>everything poops
It's true!

[Anonymous No.]

>>20818676
relax dude i corrected it sheesh also i didnt ask for a picture of ur brain

[Anonymous No.]

>言い換えようがどうしようが、俺の理解を超えていた。
Any help for the part before the comma?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20818754

"not matter if it was rephrased or anything else, it was beyond my comprehension"

cf. http://www.jgram.org/pages/viewOne.php?tagE=%28yo%29uga%2C%28yo%29uto

[Anonymous No.]

>>20818625
http://www.watch8x.com/Watch_SVDVD317--Examination-Of-Secondary-Sexual-Characteristics-Of-Autumn-Growth-Che_166740.aspx

[Anonymous No.]

guys, im trying to encode lyrics from this song, so far highlighted area is what i can exactly pinpoint
https://youtu.be/zAJSOJ41cFM

can you help with the rest?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20817579
only learn them as they show up in actual content. as you learn a lot of kanji youll end up wanting to take note of them especially when separating from things like 便　吏　更　使

[Anonymous No.]

>>20818683
hm not that anon but a lil too mean imo

[Anonymous No.]

>>20816281
is there a away to get the nhk guide into yomichan.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20818767
Thanks

[Anonymous No.]

>>20818796
updated

[Anonymous No.]

>>20818810
gomen hidoikoto itta

[Anonymous No.]

>>20818823

[Anonymous No.]

>>20818796
updated

[Anonymous No.]

>>20818823

日本の土地であって、土地じゃない
赤いゴミに侵略されたlonely place北方領
許しちゃいけないぜ奴らを
いつの日にか取り戻せrising sun it's our flag
立ち上がれ若者よ　目の前を見ろ
日本の土地日本の島 LONELY PLACE北方領を
日の丸を叩き込めよ赤い壁に
いつの日にか奪い戻せ RISING SUN IT'S OUR FLAG
いつもの時間、場所で、いつもの仲間と、
語り明かす夜は俺にとっては最高さ
いつもの時間、場所で、いつもの仲間と、
語り話す俺たちのLONE PLACE北方領

[Anonymous No.]

>>20818864
thank you very much

[Anonymous No.]

>>20818864
Wow senpai, no OCR could equal you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20818888
why couldnt u just google the title or a portion that u could discern like that dude did ?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20818918
cant find anything ergo it's possible he just wrote it down

[Anonymous No.]

>>20818932
oh ur right i actually looked at it lmao yah thats definitely not pasted lolled real good at "LONELY PLACE北方領を"

[Anonymous No.]

>>20818864
I like this song.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20818964
i can post more if you want