/DJT/「Daily Japanese Thread」第2101番

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New guide:
https://itazuraneko.neocities.org/
Old guide:
https://djtguide.neocities.org/

Old thread: >>20791239

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too soon. people need time to cool down. it was getting too heated

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We need to create our own moege Core6k.
I certainly meet words like 膣内痙攣 far more often than shit like 社長.

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tfw n1 level vocabulary and n4 level listening
it's not because I anki droned, it's because I'm fucking slow

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>>20800931

you ankidroned though didnt you

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>>20800931
you already got the hardest part out of the way buddy you'll get there sooner or later.

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So when reading manga, I understand like 70-80 percent of what is being said
Will I ever reach a point of %95+ understanding?

As an ESL, sometimes I lay in my bed thinking about how I learned english to the point where I am, but I don't remember how. I just have vague flashes of the days where I would read an english paragraph and not understand a thing

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>>20800949

>Will I ever reach a point of %95+ understanding?

yeah, manga is probably the easiest thing to get high comprehension in.

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We need idol tweet Core6k.

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>watching dolly
>she keeps saying reading and studying only gets you so far
>have to actually interact in japanese
>know no japanese speakers at all
How do I go about actually practicing?

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just discovered my first typo in a vn i'm pretty excited at my progress.

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>>20800949
You learned English by reading/listening to it for thousands of hours. You will learn Japanese in the same way.

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>>20800963
>manga is probably the easiest thing to get high comprehension in.
But that's all I want from this language

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>>20801010

then just keep reading. you'll get there eventually.

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>>20801007

are you sure it was a typo and you're not just suffering from dunning kruger syndrome

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>>20801027
no but i don't wanna depress myself

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>>20800949
That's nice but manga isn't reading.

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>２０歳
＞はたち
I can't learn japanese

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Xth for that one anon in the last thread who literally didnt know the difference between kanji and vocab.

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>>20801078
God that was funny

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>>20801070

>二十日
>はつか

why japanese people, why!!!!!

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>>20800921
VNcore
I wonder if anyone finished it and found it useful

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I started reading katanagatari. It feels like it's i+1, lots of new words.

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>>20801092
>>20801078

i don't think he's completely mistaken

if you learn 社長 and dont personally think that's a good word to learn, it's still useful to learn because you now know the readings for those two kanji that you'll see a lot in other words like 社会, 身長, etc. so it's not like doing the core6k is a waste of time, because all the kanji used in it are very common themselves.

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>>20801070
五十
いそ

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>>20801110
yea but from the way he phrased it you can tell he's a dumbass retard newfag

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>>20801110
Yeah, I agree with that. I don't regret doing 1500 words from core2k, but I also don't regret dropping that shit like it was hot.
If I started as a beginner today, though, I would probably pick up VNcore instead.

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>>20801113

五百

イオ

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How do you spell “onee-san” as in woman? Like I hear it pronounced this way, but doesnt that mean older brother? I always hear it in my chinese cartoons, but the subtitles always say woman or older girl isnt their sister. Like a teacher or someshit.

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>>20801135
おねえさん
おにいさん

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>>20801135

i think you have a misunderstanding of how romanised japanese is pronounced

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>>20801135
How did you actually bait someone wtf omedetou

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>>20801141
But those both mean older brother or sister. In one of my cartoon, they were talking about a sexy teacher and they referred to her as onee-san

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>>20801166
They can be used in the same context as "uncle" for people you don't know

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i was watching a 1970s crime film set in new york and this black dude was like "hey sister wanna come back to my place?"

why would he be asking his sister that? does he want to fuck his sister? americans are weird

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>>20801175
>does he want to fuck his sister? americans are weird
you need to play more eroge

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>>20801007
was it たいる vs ている

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If I were to learn all of the Japanese Core 6000 vocabulary (and know how to use/apply it), then how fluent would I be in spoken Japanese? What kinds of conversations would I be able to confidently carry out? Would there still be any significant gaps in my vocabulary?

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if you actually learn 6k vocab then acquiring more words would be trivial so it's silly to even worry about.

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I think people with english as their first language shouldn't try to speak japanese because no matter how good they are they always sound super autistic.

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>>20801219
The topics you would be able to talk about would be extremely limited to basically discussing the weather with a stranger. That kind of basic. The only way to have interesting conversations is to be intelligent in that language and the only way to become intelligent in a language is to read a lot of books which will require a minimum of 40,000 words.

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駄駄を捏ねる

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>>20801250
will dtb still be one of my favorite anime if i learn japanese?

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>>20800936
A little bit, but I've done a lot more listening than I should have to be only ~n4 level. I listen for like an hour per day, yet I still can't keep up with very basic shit. Probably got adhd or some shit.

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>>20801259
No

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oh, thanks yomi

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>>20801331
Is there an entry for にまむ？（はにかむ）

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Ok guys, hear me out. If we all learn one kanji then as a team we can translate muramasa and rake in patreon bucks

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>>20801341
nope

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>>20801343
Ok, I'll learn 一
Should be one in a month, then we can start.

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>>20801219

being good at speaking is way more than just knowing vocab. active and passive vocabulary develop differently

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>>20801343
give me 3 or 4 years and i'll do it by myself

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its been 50 posts and we still havent discussed the most important issue of all

https://vocaroo.com/i/s0sCcBi8tsuA

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are people really that afraid of having their voices heard they have to use voice changers? it's not that big of a deal dude.

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what is this stupid fucking kanji
google isn't recognizing it

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>>20801387
Even with the voice changer I can hear the little underage faggot's vibes

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>>20801390
What if my family recognizes it? I'm scared to tell anyone that I'm learning Japanese, don't want to get laughed at.

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>>20801400
is it the duck floating one i stole from kanji koohii?

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>>20801400
How about showing a pic of the original.

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thats not it its more like why this is favorable to a normal voice https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gkt5nT60xBA#t=25

and if u want me to throw on the autotune and make it even more obnoxious i can but im tryign 2 help ppl learn nihongo ; )

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>>20801400
浮

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>>20801400
浮

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>>20801414
thanks

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>>20801400
use this https://dict.naver.com/linedict/zhendict/dict.html#/cnen/ its still way better than google if u must draw

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>>20801400
google hates you

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>>20801427
not the first time that it won't find simple looking kanji for me

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>>20801407

>>20801407

lol if you couldnt recognise that from his image then you wouldnt have recognised it anyway

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>>20801401
i actually just have growth hormone deficiency like andy milonakis https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Md0jjLB6wuk#t=52

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google finds every single kanji i throw at it every single time. is it because i have a vague idea of stroke order?

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>>20801432
Wanted to make sure if you transcribed it correctly you dumb shit.

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>>20801430
maybe your stroke order is shit

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imagine learning stroke order

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Stroke this
*unzips dick*

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whats the point of drawing recognition if i have to know stroke order anyway

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>>20801439
You're a fucking retard and you don't know Japanese stop posting you little shit
It was clear as day what the character he drew was that is if you aren't a tripple nigger beginner who pretends he knows shit on this shit ass thread
fuck off

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angry virgin slapfight time

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>>20801459
Fuck off EOP trash.
Half of the time when Google doesn't recognize something is because the poster got a radical completely wrong, making it a different kanji altogether.

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oh no u cant be sayin that

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>>20800914
New Matt video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o9cErhwlxrg

Time stamps:
00:24 - Could you interview someone around 1 year into the process?
02:24 - Do you still watch anime?
09:34 - How much listening should I do before I start reading?
14:01 - How has psychedelics changed your perspective?
39:45 - How/when should I get started with pitch accent? How to color code for pitch?
51:36 - Thoughts on Khatz's "multiplexed input"?
55:30 - How to start reading as a beginner?
56:28 - What do you think about this study about watching with subtitles?
1:01:16 - Japanese immersion sources that aren't obnoxious?
1:06:17 - Are Chinese subtitles for English shows ok to make sentence cards out of?
1:07:10 - How does attention affect the subconscious when doing active immersion?
1:19:30 - Should I put English translations on BSCs?

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>>20801466

he clearly got it right and you would have known that if you knew japanese. stop making excuses

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>>20801470
What is this, Jeopardy?

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>>20801487
>typical N4 trash thinks he's better than anyone
let me know when you even reached Mount Stupid

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it's impossible for google to fuck it up if you know the stroke order

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>>20801259
How's your taste so fucking shit lmao

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>>20801498

youre trash m8 come back when you can read kanji

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youre all retarded jfc

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>>20801466
Joke's on you I'm not even a native
How does it feel knowing I'm well on my way to assimilate a third language while you're here sitting on your fatass blatantly lying and trying to save face over an already lost argument? Pretty bad I presume but feel free to tell me otherwise ;)

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Honestly most people who use this kanji recognition things are probably beginners so they wouldn't know stroke order.

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Reminder JLPT levels don't prove anything since N1合格者 can't even understand anime

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>>20801500
Exactly, that's why it was reasonable to assume that the poster made a mistake.

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>122/180

not something to be proud of

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>>20801516

they prove you can read without a dictionary

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>>20801004
do the same you did when you were learning english

if you are an anglosphere faggot, tough luck boyo~~

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>>20801521

the test is designed to fail 70% of people who take it so the scoring is scaled. theres a ton of people who take it every time to inflate the score by getting every question right

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>>20801507
>saving a exam card from reddit /r/japanese
Absolutely pathetic. I've seen it posted there like 3 times at least.

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>>20801470
truly based

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>>20801538

ive posted it once before actually, and never on reddit so nice meme redditor

p.s. you suck at kanji

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>>20801504
dude c'mon what's so bad about dtb

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>kinda want to see if I could pass N1 with my crappy kanji knowledge
>don't want to drive for 2 hours and pay to take the test just for fun
Online test when?

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>>20801562

you could take the jcat. if you get 300+ you could pass it easily probably

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>>20801557
i thought dtb was trash at the time but i bet its not half bad now lmao

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>>20801567
I've done it a few years back and got whatever the N1 level was, don't remember the actual score though

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>>20801577

you could also just dl the kanzen master 読解 pdf and do the questions. n1 is all about the reading section anyway

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>>20801557
It's average at most, I couldn't fathom having at as your favorite anime. Not to mention how annoying the whole arc gimmick which was popular at that time is. Did you also like baccano?

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>>20801587
no i'm not gonna watch highly praised shows like baccano until after i become fluent

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>>20801592
What are you going to watch to reach 10000 hours then?

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>>20801096
https://djtguide.neocities.org/assets/res/kanji.png

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>>20801592
Just read the baccano novels and then watch the anime raw. If you wait until after you're fluent to watch all the things you want, then what media are you going to use to get to fluency?

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>>20801470
Why does he spend so much time talking about unrelated bullshit and then in response to the one worthwhile question "how to read as a beginner" he spends 1 fucking minute?? 20 minutes on psychadelics?? What??

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>>20801626
gonna rewatch all the garbage i've seen before and listen to audiobooks and podcasts

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>>20801554
>actually going through the effort of printing a card you downloaded from reddit

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>>20801628
didn't he already make a bunch of videos about reading strategies for Japanese?
Also I didn't know matt was a drug addict i guess that could explain his idiosyncrasies

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>>20801626
>>20801630
I'm going through Remembering the Kanji for reading, but what's a good audio source to start with other than anime? Pimsleur or is there something better?

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>>20801668
Embrace the anime.

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lsd got matt started on the hard determinism philo 101 timeline

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>>20801639
>actually revealing yourself as a redditor

leave scum

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>>20801668
you could check out the genki audio cds, they are probably in the COR or somewhere online.

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>>20801696
Being a redditor is far better than being an EOP poser pretending to be N1.

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>>20801708

you're not going to bait me into posting more n1 proof m8, i dont care that much & you already know you suck at japanese

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>>20801689
Is that what made him come to hate Japan too? I think they have low tolerance for drug use there.

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>>20801716

dunno but LSD is the easiest/cheapest drug to get in japan anyway though

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KFC and watermelon.

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KFC.

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Does anyone else find it ironic that MattvsJapan advises focusing solely on listening but then also shills early listening through anime? Like if you are going for developing a solid phonetic base through listening, doesn't it make more sense to listen to natural, in the moment dialogue from live action rather than heavily exaggerated cartoon talk? Like imagine if someone learning english told you they were immersing with spongebob from the start? You'd tell them they're an idiot, go watch a TV show where people speak like, you know, normal people.

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Grape soda.

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>>20801697
I see the Gengo Japanese Audio there, is that what you mean? Downloading it now.

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Niggers.

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>>20801744
>doesn't it make more sense to listen to natural, in the moment dialogue
doesn't it make more sense to watch what you wanna watch instead of watching something that might be 5% better but at the cost of your motivation? you retarded fuck.

>told you they were immersing with spongebob from the start?
i'd say that's a fine base and you can branch out to other stuff later. fuck you.

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Dodge Charger.

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>>20801697
>>20801748
Nm, found it.

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Slave.

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>>20801755
no need to be so angry my dude

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In prison.

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Scuffed J'S.

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Monkey.

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whats this new meme

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whys epic retard shitposting 1 word per minute

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Africa.

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>>20801744
Idk anime isn't like spongebob and the words are all recorded very clearly by professional voice actors. Once you know what the words are then it's easier to go into live action where speech is slurred since your brain will be able to predict what they are saying. I think the most important part is to listen to what you are interested in cuz that's where the progress will come from. If ppl want to listen to live action I don't think matt would tell them not to though idk for sure it sounds like that's what you were hinting at. Fact is most people start learning Japanese cuz they love anime

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KFC and watermelon.

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East L.A.

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matt CAN'T actually be that good at japanese because he himself says he only read around 50 books

he just fooled himself into believing he's really good by ankidroning increasingly obscure and useless information that natives don't know

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>>20801744
>Like imagine if someone learning english told you they were immersing with spongebob from the start?
You mean like literally everyone in Europe?

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Welfare office.

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>>20801796
>words are all recorded very clearly by professional voice actors
that's exactly the case for spongebob, aho

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>>20801809
Interesting theory that is actually believable.

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Jordan's.

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>>20801744
>>20801811
this

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Grape soda.

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>>20801811
>>20801822
The vast majority of esl europeans have a horrible grasp of english phonetics. Your point is invalid.

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Niggers.

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Dodge Charger.

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>>20801734
>>20801741
>>20801745
>>20801752
>>20801759
>>20801764
>>20801775
>>20801780
>>20801783
>>20801790
>>20801799
>>20801804
>>20801814
>>20801820
>>20801824
>>20801830
You forgot emancipation proclamation

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>>20801816
I don't see where this hate from anime comes from. Live action isn't going to be any better for listening. It's all scripted anyways (not real dialogue so same as anime) just they talk less clearly with shittier mic quality so you can't look up words as easily.

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Watermelon.

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when matt talks about his experience on psychedelics it seems he's saying he was able to see for the first time how there is no objective reality and that everything we experience goes through the filter of our mind, but that filter is not objective in any meaningful sense. if that's what he's getting at, then do i have an ultra high IQ for already knowing it and not having to take drugs or meditate?

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Dead beat dad.

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>>20801841
Yes. People who have amazing revelations on drugs are always low IQ mundanes.

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In prison.

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>>20801841

possibly. i've taken LSD multiple times and it didnt tell me shit, it is very wild but i didnt learn anything about myself/reality.

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>>20801839
it's not that i hate anime, but if you are doing a perfectionist build, putting off reading in favor of listening, trying to develop an understanding of how natural japanese sounds, pronunciation, pitch accent, flow, etc, and from that understanding wanting to attain minimally accented spoken speech, why would you use anime which contains lots of clearly exaggerated speech that is at odds with how normal people talk? Anime is fine but my point was aimed at the MIA perfectionist build users in particular like our boy thejapancode

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Tykeisha.

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KFC manager.

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i encourage you all to report the spammer

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do you guys know any novels in the cor have audiobooks available?

i've been looking through the audiobook list and i can't find anything that's available in both formats

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Dodge dealership.

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>>20801869
I don't have a 4chan pass, and I'm not going to do that many capchas

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Welfare office.

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>>20801864
I see your point now and agree :) i forgot matt memes perfect pitch accent now so yeah you probably shouldn't watch anime since your ears will be polluted with different dialectal pitch information that is undetectable by a noob

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Drugs.

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In prison.

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Black niggers.

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i like how matt's conclusion was somehow "ive reached a higher plane of consciousness that would sound insane to anyone normal" while also saying that he learned how to be humble

im guessing that he believes either a) his 'soul' or whatever mechanism allowing him to think will carry on after death or b) we live in a simulation

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>>20801861
Maybe drugs give the npcs a glimpse of what it's like to be capable of abstract thought.

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コイノシルシ　君の瞳（め）に
Apprently translates to
In your eyes, I found

For Koi no Shirushi, doesn’t koi mean love and shirushi means proof, so why is it not love’s proof?

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how many hours of listening without subtitles before I can start reading. And please don't say 10000

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then he touches on determinism and how nobody can really be morally culpable which is something i already accepted too. the more i hear about the experiences of people who do drugs the more i'm starting to think this:
>>20801855
back when i was a teenager i recognized there were some things i wanted to be true, but that didn't make them true. and at the time it kinda sucked. but things are good now, even though i still recognize i'm atoms moving around and i'm wrong about a lot of things.

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>>20801912
You can do both, just don't be a read-only drone.

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>>20801905

it's just that the 'objective reality' question is kind of forced on to you. you start to understand the fact that it's your brain that decides what you're experiencing and the concept of reality is quite fragile. i can see why that would fuck normies up.

personally LSD never broke through my ego & just made me accept that i'll just have to wait until i die to find out the truth about reality

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>>20801912
You can read from day 1, but if you truly want to develop your listening abilities you should listen way more than you read.

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>>20801909
Try reading the full sentence.

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>>20801916

LSD isn't really a one-size fits all thing. if you do it then you'll probably come away with some very strange ideas about the world built on to what you already think. Matt just happened to reach conclusions he could have found in a beginner's philosophy textbook

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>>20801912
2 hours of listening per day for a year = 730 hours. get to it.

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Which of these writings is the one i'll see in Kanji? One has 3 vertical strokes and the other only 2 with 2 drops on top.

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>>20801912
9999

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>>20801912
10000 hours of English subbed anime

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>>20801928
My listening skills are already fugged. I'm a monolingual native english speaker and I use subtitles for everything to the point where I know rely on them for english. I unironically struggle to follow films and stuff without subtitles now.

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>>20801934
That's a scan error. Buy the book in paper if you don't want to cripple your handwriting

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>>20801942
which one is the scan error

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>>20801946
Left

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>>20801934

https://jisho.org/search/%E6%98%A5%20%23kanji

https://jisho.org/search/%E5%88%B8%20%23kanji

it's a different character, so that's an error

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Now, it is important to recognize the difference between true samadhi with self-mastery (see pages 94—95) and the false kind of
samadhi without it. In the first, even when the inner man is forgotten,
he is not forsaken. The firmly established man is getting along well
within, ready to make his appearance at any time. False samadhi lacks
this self-mastery from the outset. There can be fighting samadhi,
stealing samadhi, hating samadhi, jealousy samadhi, worrying, dreading, upsetting samadhi, but all without the guidance of self-mastery.
These are not true samadhi as it is understood in Zen.
An animal or bird enjoys samadhi every moment. When it grazes
in a meadow it is in a grazing samadhi. When it flies up at the sound of
a gun, it is in a flying samadhi. Mellowed by the evening sun, standing
quietly for a long time motionless in the meadow, it is in what we
might call a "mellowing samadhi" —a beautiful picture and a condition to be envied even by a human being. But the animal has no self- consciousness ; though much to be admired, the animal's samadhi is after all an animal samadhi, a lower state than that which man is capable of. The mellow condition attained by some under the influence of
drugs like LSD, though greatly attractive to weaker characters, can be
compared to that of animal samadhi. It is a retrogression to the primi92
SAMADHl
tive life. Not losing self-mastery but at the same time being involved in external conditions is the real meaning of "Man is deprived; circumstances are not deprived." In this state the inner man is simply in- active.

druggies btfo by zen master

[Anonymous No.]

sometimes i feel like i'm not homosexual enough to successfully learn japanese

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>>20801930
I translate it as loves proof in your eyes

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>>20801841
>there is no objective reality
yeah but what if there actually is one
checkmate "abstract thinkers"

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>>20801941

this is a copout desu. you could definitely understand 99% without subs. i know because i do the same thing

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>>20801954
change it to "if there is an objective reality we can't really know about it"

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>>20801958
yeah but what if we can?

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>>20801957
But... I like reading and listening :( Guess it time to turn the CC's off.

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>>20801946
Right

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>>20801962
we wouldn't know if we could, even if we thought we could.

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>>20801952

コイノシルシ　君の瞳(め)に
見つけたのあの日

'you translated half of it. go away and stop trying to translate shit you cant even read

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>>20801966
yes but what if we could know, beyond thinking it

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seems were starting to forget the fundamental rule here in this lil spike of noobdom here

10000 hours of eng subbed anime or ur gay

period

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tfw matt just got a ton of people who's only interaction with the world is through japanese to start believing in hard determinism and simulation theory

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>reader pronounces a "g" sound like が as if it has an ん or something in front
>literally sounds like "nga"
is this just a dialect or speech impediment thing? Or is certain words actually said this way?

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>>20801988
was the speaker a neko/black person?

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>>20801988

https://ipa-mania.com/japanese-ga-nga/

[Anonymous No.]

Oh god here we go again

[Anonymous No.]

>>20801941
I'm not a native english speaker, but I learned english mainly trough text so I can relate to what you're saying. I managed to somewhat cure it by forcing myself to watch things without subtitles and just figuring it out.
But I do believe that if you first end up in that situation you can never truly cure it, your mind will always rely on the information it has learned through text to infer what people are saying.
I've learned from this mistake though, and I'm definitely not making it again in japanese. 70-80% of my immersion is from audio only, so if you truly want to develop your listening abilities I suggest doing the same.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20802013
and how long would you say you spent in total listening without subtitles and figuring it out?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20802013
>your mind will always rely on the information it has learned through text to infer what people are saying

Assuming the prediction is accurate what is actually wrong with this? You fill in blanks and pattern recognize in your native language too.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20802013
>But I do believe that if you first end up in that situation you can never truly cure it, your mind will always rely on the information it has learned through text to infer what people are saying.

i think this is true. i still think of everything i hear in terms of kanji vocab because i focused solely on reading for yrs before trying to improve my listening skills. i don't think it's necessarily a bad thing tho, i mean i can understand what's being said and know how to write it simultaneously

[Anonymous No.]

>>20802028
There's a lot of nuance in sound you won't notice, they're not crucial to understanding the language but if you actually want to sound close to a native speaker when you speak they're crucial.
All native speakers sound perfect cause they learned their language from audio only for several years.

[Anonymous No.]

god why is there so many counters

why do rabbits and birds share counter, like what the fuck, why cant rabbits use the small animal counter?

why is this language so fucking autistic in every way possible

[Anonymous No.]

in some ways it's just impossible to reach the level of a native speaker due to physiology.

japanese speakers of english physically cant hear the difference between L & R amongst other sounds unless they were introduced to it from a young age

[Anonymous No.]

>>20802048
>japanese speakers of english physically cant hear the difference between L & R amongst other sounds unless they were introduced to it from a young age
That's not true at all.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20802048
Sounds like dekinai talk to me

[Anonymous No.]

>>20802041
Oh I see. Idc about perfectly imitating how a Japanese person sounds because I'm not Japanese but I can follow the logic to a point. I noticed myself hearing sounds differently the more I listened to Japanese and can see how hearing that would help in speaking those sounds

[Anonymous No.]

>>20802046

possible explanations

1) because their ears look like 羽
2) because buddhist priests wanted to eat them but were forbidden to eat beasts
3) because ウサギ might come from 兎鷺

either way it's more common to use 匹 nowadays

[Anonymous No.]

>>20802046
>why do rabbits and birds share counter
blame buddhists

[Anonymous No.]

>>20802056

it's partially true

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perception_of_English_/r/_and_/l/_by_Japanese_speakers

[Anonymous No.]

>>20802063
I should add that I don't know if reading will disable you from coming to hear those sounds though. Why would it? If you're listening you're still hearing what's being said assuming no subtitles are present so given enough listening hours why would it be any different? I can only think of that as a claim matt invented that hasn't actually been proven.

[Anonymous No.]

>spend the better part of half an hour trying to figure out what some kanji word is supposed to be
>it makes no sense in the context and isn't even a real word from everything I look up
>tfw it was a character's name
I'm not going to make it bros

[Anonymous No.]

>>20802058
>>20802056
what he is saying does hold some truth when compared to anglosphere learners, it is way harder to learn your second language, than it is learning your third language if you aren't starting very early.

alot of anglosphere learners never reach near native-like fluency in any language they study later in life, while alot of non-anglospheres can talk 2-3 languages fluently with no problem

[Anonymous No.]

>>20802087

this thread is here so you dont waste your time looking up shit for 30mins

[Anonymous No.]

Food stamps.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20802087
usually you can tell its a name if its followed by the honorific suffix

[Anonymous No.]

Scuffed J'S.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20802087
If it takes you more than 2 minutes tops to figure something out, you're probably better off ignoring it and moving on.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20802088
That's true? I live in America but I grew up speaking two languages, how well do I fare?

[Anonymous No.]

Dodge Charger.

[Anonymous No.]

Dead beat dad.

[Anonymous No.]

Grape soda.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20802109
you should get deported back to wherever your spawn stems from

[Anonymous No.]

East L.A.

[Anonymous No.]

Nigmode.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20802063
I don't care about sounding perfect either, but I do want to sound good enough to the point where I'm pleasant to talk to. I don't like talking to foreigns who completely butcher my native language and make no effort what so ever to produce the correct sounds, and I'd assume most japanese people feel the same way.
And yes, being able to produce sounds are directly related to being able to hear them, if you can't tell that you're mispronouncing words you can't correct it either.

[Anonymous No.]

KFC.

[Anonymous No.]

Eat chicken.

[Anonymous No.]

imagine having your butthole filled with BBC

[Anonymous No.]

Having a father.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20802122
>back to wherever your spawn stems from
So you agree with the border hoppers?

[Anonymous No.]

Officially Scuffed.

[Anonymous No.]

yall fuckin rambunctious af atm

[Anonymous No.]

>>20802122
>your spawn

lol right wingers exposed again stay taking that L homeboy

[Anonymous No.]

Prison.

[Anonymous No.]

Tykeisha.

[Anonymous No.]

when your penis length is equal to your IQ

#BlackPride

[Anonymous No.]

Welfare.

[Anonymous No.]

Slaves.

[Anonymous No.]

why is someone wasting their time shitting this thread up when we already do it ourselves

[Anonymous No.]

Nigs.

[Anonymous No.]

Cotton gatherers

[Anonymous No.]

Late night pharmacy.

[Anonymous No.]

Chicken.

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

Getting shot by cops

[Anonymous No.]

Scuffed J'S.

[Anonymous No.]

新しい仕事があるから、勉強するの時間がない。
助けて。
ノルミズは僕がアスペと思うでしょう。仕事で日本語を読むもしも。どうしおう？

[Anonymous No.]

lads, maybe its a code..

[Anonymous No.]

It's someone who finally realized they are never learning Japanese

[Anonymous No.]

KFC manager.

[Anonymous No.]

やめて、あたしは怖いね

[Anonymous No.]

>>20802184
Nice this is some good comprehensible input for beginners here

[Anonymous No.]

>>20802189

give up eternal dekinai you almost crippled my nihongo chikara forever

[Anonymous No.]

Dodge dealership.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20802196
I'm sure I said all that wrong anyway

[Anonymous No.]

>>20802184
translate this you fucking weebs

[Anonymous No.]

Never cuffed, forever tuff.

[Anonymous No.]

Worldstar.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20802201
"This material I have just witnessed is quite shocking to me."

[Anonymous No.]

Basketball

[Anonymous No.]

>>20802184

[Anonymous No.]

Beats by Dre.

[Anonymous No.]

Niggy.

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

Discount Nyikez

[Anonymous No.]

Nigger.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20802201
"WTF"

[Anonymous No.]

Two digit IQ

[Anonymous No.]

Ghetto.

[Anonymous No.]

Police brutality

[Anonymous No.]

Drugs.

[Anonymous No.]

In prison.

[Anonymous No.]

Rape

[Anonymous No.]

This is what you deserve for bickering at length over fuckin' nothing, all the time. Don't make another thread for at least six hours after this one.

[Anonymous No.]

Black niggers.

[Anonymous No.]

Kool-Aid.

[Anonymous No.]

Poor fade

[Anonymous No.]

Tykeisha.

[Anonymous No.]

建立
>こんりゅう is the common reading, not けんりつ
Who the fuck keeps coming up with these readings

[Anonymous No.]

Rape.

[Anonymous No.]

Africa

[Anonymous No.]

Dodge Charger.

[Anonymous No.]

https://youtu.be/o9cErhwlxrg?t=2454

[Anonymous No.]

How do I get into Japanese humor? I'm watching this show where they lock up 10 comedians in a room and you win by not laughing, but most of the gags go right over my head. Comprehension is a component of it, but I feel like there is a cultural component tied to stand up that I'm completing missing out on.

[Anonymous No.]

why is the stroke order in some letters stupid like許 doesn't it make more sense to be down-right-down-right instead of down-right-right-down

[Anonymous No.]

>>20802304
lock yourself up with 10 orangutans thats been forcefed viagra and laxatives and see if you get it now

comedians are not funny, they are quirky at best, your IQ is too high for that kind of humour

[Anonymous No.]

>he wants to be funny in Japanese
Some of the most fluent peeps still can't into Japanese humor

[Anonymous No.]

if you want to be the fucking funniest in japan learn to imitate a shitty korean accent when they're making fun of korea, you'll be the #1 based gaijin

note: requires you to not be an anglo because being born as an EOP permanently cripples your japanese pronunciation

[Anonymous No.]

>>20802315
Them's the rules. No different than 十.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20802315

why would it make more sense? try to do both as quickly as possible and you'll see that it's much easier to write 許 cursively the correct way

[Anonymous No.]

>>20802324
I don't want to be funny myself, I just want to better understand the humor.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20802335
being born EOP didn't stop /ourguy/ atsugiri jason

[Anonymous No.]

>>20802335
>note
dekinai talk

[Anonymous No.]

>>20802304
It's mostly slapstick shit and word play, often both.

[Anonymous No.]

類まれ運命を持っている少年よ
気をつけなさい

[Anonymous No.]

>>20801470
>stopped watching anime
no longer /ourguy/

[Anonymous No.]

planning to get serious soon, is wanikani a good tool for kanji learning?
>inb4 sarcastic greentext

[Anonymous No.]

>>20802402
You can be a comedian for sure.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20802402
Of course anon go for it, also do genki and duolingo

[Anonymous No.]

>>20802402
Nope! Surprise! You don't need to spend a dime to learn nihongo.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20802402
Wanikani is the only tool that is actual garbage. Get a textbook or use a free online website if you want to do that stuff, there is zero reason to pay hundreds of dollars for it.

[Anonymous No.]

kansai speech is so hip guys

[Anonymous No.]

Here's how you come up with kanji mnemonics y'all *tips 兜*
>娘
>good + woman
>the only GOOD WOMEN are the YOUNG ONES

[Anonymous No.]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jxqz48bfljQ

george is live. what do i ask him?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20802438

too bad the kanji doesn't mean "young ones" or you might be on to something here

[Anonymous No.]

>>20802407
>>20802411
>>20802413
>>20802415
So what do you all use and how well does it work for you?
>inb4 read the guide
I just want to hear some other peoples' experiences

[Anonymous No.]

>>20802467
ask him why he cant even understand simple japanese like https://streamable.com/cp62l

[Anonymous No.]

when the 主人公 levels up and becomes ichiban tuyoi ningen

[Anonymous No.]

>>20802467
ask him why u are so stupid and psot e-celeb bullshit

[Anonymous No.]

>>20802486

[Anonymous No.]

>>20802480

is she saying ファッキン食らちゃった?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20802470
Fuuuuuck I should step up my RTK-fu ;((

[Anonymous No.]

>>20802493
see me after class

[Anonymous No.]

btw whyd that one dude get hella buttmad and spam the thread

[Anonymous No.]

>>20802471
I did RTK in two months and then C6K. Fast and simple.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20802471
I'll tell you for 50 bucks, shouldn't be a problem since you don't seem to mind throwing money away anyways

[Anonymous No.]

>>20802520
上等だぜ

https://streamable.com/ay43z

[Anonymous No.]

>>20802507

please explain

[Anonymous No.]

>tfw literally an N2-kun

[Anonymous No.]

n2 is the first loser

[Anonymous No.]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BzO9xavZY_A
just watch the first one and half minutes. good japanese translation is never possible

[Anonymous No.]

>>20802540
発禁

[Anonymous No.]

>>20802557
both suck equally imo just as a product also who the fuck played kingdom hearts back when it was current and didnt think it was gay trash i still cant understand what anyone ever saw in it

[Anonymous No.]

>>20802563

なるほど now it makes sense

[Anonymous No.]

>時雨
>"ときあめ what the fuck"
>しぐれ
How the fuck

[Anonymous No.]

>>20802589
babbys first nekopara
they grow up so fast ;)

[Anonymous No.]

>>20802471
>read about half of tae kim while doing core2k
>struggle through a basic light novel
>drop core2k around 1.5k words, start mining
>go back and revisit a different grammar guide
>struggle through a basic light novel
>drop mining, drop anki completely
>continue struggling through light novels until it stops being difficult

[Anonymous No.]

you see sometimes japan has words that didnt come from china and they are really beautiful and ftw

btw if u wanna know somethin sick i learned 時雨 from shuffle and thats how i always remembered it cuz fuckin best girl wins eeeezzzz

[Anonymous No.]

>>20802594
literally kill yourself if you don't know that word from ww2 instead of anime
and i mean real ww2 not kancolle

[Anonymous No.]

>>20802589
its a 季語 baka they don't make sense

[Anonymous No.]

>>20802594
Nekopara would be less embarrasing than finding out that word by watching this
https://youtu.be/kDmdYQ33cCw

[Anonymous No.]

>>20802513
Considering it was just stereotype nonsense, probably a dope from /v/ or /pol/ that came here hoping for a secret trick to instantly learn nihongo.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20802616
that thumbnail is cursed delete that greasy goblin right nyaow

[Anonymous No.]

>>20802603
Light novels are not basic btw you might be suffering unintentionally if you think that.

[Anonymous No.]

五月

>さつき

wtf nihon!

[Anonymous No.]

>>20802631
Not him but using Manga as the base just feels like I'm lying to myself.

[Anonymous No.]

if u dont know japanese theres literally no point to reading a light novella because they are written to be interesting to the [japanese] reader and if literally everything is lost on u what is even the point

read and enjoy the glorified picture books that are manga and consider a career in novella at a later time imho

[Anonymous No.]

>>20802638
>さつき
that term is obsolete, its only used by redditors and JET fags that like to stand out, otherwise its just ごがつ

[Anonymous No.]

>>20802638
Isn't that usually written like 皐月, since it refers to the lunar calendar?
五月 is usually ごがつ.

[Anonymous No.]

>people replying seriously to my obvious parody post

disgraceful

[Anonymous No.]

>>20802513
what he was saying was all true but it just doesn't belong here. not sure why he posted it...

[Anonymous No.]

>>20802631
I mean, I bonked my head on them over and over til they eventually started making sense. I did also play some jrpgs and read some manga but that didn't feel significant.

[Anonymous No.]

>ごがつ

[Anonymous No.]

Do many JET negroes master Japanese while they're there, or do they mostly just teach English for their term and not bother with the local language? I understand JET don't even need N5.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20802682

lol people on JET cant even master making friends nevermind learning a language

[Anonymous No.]

皐月（こうげつ）

[Anonymous No.]

depends on ur life outside of school cuz ur forbidden to ever speak japanese on school grounds by punishment of japanese curb stomping

[Anonymous No.]

go gatta life

[Anonymous No.]

早苗月

[Anonymous No.]

hows about u go gattata here

[Anonymous No.]

how much does it take to do KKLC? less than RTK?

[Anonymous No.]

Guys, I'd like to introduce you all to a great feature of 4 Chan. If you click on the post number at the top right it will link the post you're replying to with double green meme arrows, making it easier to follow a conversation.

[Anonymous No.]

>と思います

[Anonymous No.]

>>20802708
why do you dislike rtk so much?

[Anonymous No.]

if you cant follow a conversation in english through context without needing markers, how will you ever learn a high-context language like nihongo?

[Anonymous No.]

we're just trying to introduce 2ch bulletin board manners in this thread to reach a higher level of immersion

[Anonymous No.]

>>20802721
no readings, no vocab, also not all the jouyou

[Anonymous No.]

is this the same guy who has been asking about kklc and rtk for weeks now? just do something otherwise youre gonna turn into nuke worrying about the best baby beginner tool for 10 years

[Anonymous No.]

>>20802737
oh so you actually want to use kklc to learn vocab and readings instead of just using it for kanji recognition, when reading would accomplish that better? definitely retarded.

[Anonymous No.]

fuck off and do nihongo shark rtk 100 new cards a day or ill use my 青眼の白龍

[Anonymous No.]

>>20802739
yeah, I am already like nuke. Consider I have OCD also

[Anonymous No.]

>>20802748
doomed

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>20802098
I am too stubborn. I must try myself first
>>20802102
Yeah this wasn't a normal case I think
>>20802107
what if I miss important context or plot by skipping something?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20802762

lmao steve btfo

[Anonymous No.]

>>20802519
how much could you read/understand by then? how long did it take?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20802762
What does it say?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20802762
someone translate this 4 me pls

[Anonymous No.]

>>20802791

nippongo is hard as fuck even for us yellowskins, so hearing some retard who can barely speak say it's easy for whitey makes me sick. altho prob no-one can read this shit anyway

[Anonymous No.]

>>20802741
they never said they were gonna use it that way. also, you don't know japanese, you don't have a right to argue about learning materials.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20802804
>they never said they were gonna use it that way
you don't even know english you fucking moron.

[Anonymous No.]

>master hiragana and katakana
>go through tae kim's gramma guide start to finish
>actually learn probably 25% of it, but have the other 75% in your awareness
>read and put this to use
>refer back to tae kim and go through it again, this time having knowledge and experience from reading and seeing this stuff in action
>probably able to learn 50-60% now and still become re-aware of the remaining 40%
>read more
>read more
>refer back to tae kim again this time getting close to 95%+ of understanding because you've seen almost all of it in practice now
>read forever more
>only refer back to tae kim now if you are unsure or want to clarify since you know most of it now
Do I have this mostly right?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20802791
instead of translate it to english ill just change it to easier to understand nihongo so even if uve only watched a few thousnad hours of eng subbed anime can understand

"調子乗るなよ お前にはまだ10年早い"

[Anonymous No.]

wtf tomodati classical japanese looks so beautiful why did it have to develop into this garbage

[Anonymous No.]

what if i told u old japanese is just as grating to read as olde english

[Anonymous No.]

>>20802831
>wtf tomodati classical japanese looks so beautiful why did it have to develop into this garbage

so beautiful

[Anonymous No.]

>>20802839
Fuck that I'm talking about the poems

[Anonymous No.]

>>20802837
shakespeare is epic you take that back

[Anonymous No.]

>>20802858

shakespeare is early modern english tho

[Anonymous No.]

bungo is cool, especially read aloud in matt's voice
https://streamable.com/etuv4

>>20802860
"classical japanese" doesn't refer to heian jidai shit, it was standard until the 20th century

[Anonymous No.]

>>20802884

what does that have to do w/ shakespeare

[Anonymous No.]

>>20802889
first you tell me what classical japanese has to do with old japanese

[Anonymous No.]

>>20802899

a lot? you said it's been the 'standard' until the 20th century. it's been in use since around the 8th century, so yeah it definitely does also refer to heian jidai shit dumb@$$

[Anonymous No.]

now now nerds こんなくだらない話はやめましょう

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5fDGZli4EEg

[Anonymous No.]

>>20802839

admittedly the original does look slightly better

[Anonymous No.]

>>20802839

admittedly the original does look slightly more appealing

[Anonymous No.]

i doubt u can read fukuzawa let alone this >>20802839

[Anonymous No.]

u literally deleted and reposted for that ?

[Anonymous No.]

>相応
>sooo
lmao

[Anonymous No.]

btw i can barely read any of that shit and i aint afraid to admit it proudly

[Anonymous No.]

>>20803045
if u post 2 many of these and with 0 impact around them every1s just gonna forget them dude u gotta do a better job at this

[Anonymous No.]

>>20803037

it was the wrong img, i didnt want to confuse anyone who might want to identify some characters

>>20803036

i had to translate that as an assignment for uni, and i had to translate gakumon no susume into 現代語 on the fly in a diff 古文 class so u r wrong m8

[Anonymous No.]

相応dude相応lmao相応its相応literally相応read相応as相応souou相応

[Anonymous No.]

so wot

[Anonymous No.]

worst thread since the anki tech support one

[Anonymous No.]

>>20801173
Stop giving shitty examples. Have you ever honestly heard anyone call a stranger "uncle" or "aunt"?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20803091
oh wow, i need a thread like that again

[Anonymous No.]

I should be reading more. I told myself I would read more. But as my ability to read gets a little better and a little faster, I've actually spent less time reading.
>I read 200 lines in 60 minutes when it used to take 120 minutes (before you ask it's because I look up and try to understand every single thing) so I'll just take a break and play TF2.

I know I need to read WAY more than this to get good but TF2 is more fun.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20803102
>I know I need to read WAY more than this to get good but TF2 is more fun.


have i been teleported back to the days of fighting amphibians circa 2009

[Anonymous No.]

>>20803102
>tf2
maybe addicting, but not fun.

[Anonymous No.]

If you have any hobby that's not Japanese, you're going to kill your Japanese learning. Even if that hobby is shitposting on DJT.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20803126
>Even if that hobby is shitposting on DJT.

especially if that's your hobby

[Anonymous No.]

>>20803045
顔を覆う

[Anonymous No.]

>>20803209
thanks, mined

[Anonymous No.]

装う

[Anonymous No.]

I'm trying to read the Heidi of the Alps in the new resource page as my first real reading attempt, but I'd like to be able to check a real translation since my grammar is garbage. I can't find any information on this version online though, and it seems new from the pictures' art styles.

[Anonymous No.]

女王

[Anonymous No.]

>>20803245
i guessed what this meant and how it was read based on the kanji and because i heard it said many times in hxh

[Anonymous No.]

>>20803249

amazing!

[Anonymous No.]

>>20803266
are you being sarcastic don't lie

[Anonymous No.]

>>20803249
すごっ

[Anonymous No.]

女王 queen
王女 princess
why

[Anonymous No.]

>>20803278
Wow this is really profound. Do you think you could assemble some more examples for us? This is truly eye opening.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20803278

an emperor woman > a queen
a female attached to the emperor > a princess

very simple my friend

[Anonymous No.]

>>20803287
are you saying emperors bang their princesses instead of the queen?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20803278
Or you can just remember them by their sound values like any other normal wajin

[Anonymous No.]

>>20803317

course they do

[Anonymous No.]

>>20801004

[Anonymous No.]

>>20801004
dang i missed this post

ahh i miss the days when dolly chan was good and not bad

[Anonymous No.]

https://vocaroo.com/i/s0FYFjyeC1ru
rengai soudan desuka?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20803410
her first video was May 2, 2017. you think she's just putting out these crap videos to pad it out two two full years and then she'll quit?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20803423

let's not start this again

[Anonymous No.]

>>20803423
no its not rengai the word is something ull never experience in ur life

[Anonymous No.]

>>20803423
stop

[Anonymous No.]

煉瓦移送弾

[Anonymous No.]

What attracts blacks to japan and weeb stuff overall?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20803451
恋愛相談ですか?

[Anonymous No.]

the same shit that attracts whites and other shades of gey innit m8

[Anonymous No.]

Today's new word:
火事場泥棒

[Anonymous No.]

>>20803466
Glorified violence in anime.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20803471

[Anonymous No.]

>>20803478
u think u can get away with this u cannot

[Anonymous No.]

>>20802809
quote where they said they were gonna use it that way

[Anonymous No.]

>>20803496
quote my fist up your ass you retard

[Anonymous No.]

>>20803496

>thinking you can learn high-context japanese but cant even understand context in a simple language like english

when will the spectrumites just give up

[Anonymous No.]

力こそパワーなんだよ

[Anonymous No.]

>>20801004
Dolly doesn't know Japanese

[Anonymous No.]

how do i know whether to read read as red or reed? this language is retarded!

[Anonymous No.]

>>20803474
NOOOOOOOO IT'S ONLY WEIRD WHEN NONWHITES DO IT WHITE PEOPLE LIKED IT FIRST STOP IT STOP IT STOP IT STOP IT WE INVENTED ANIME IT'S ONLY FOR US NOOOO

[Anonymous No.]

what the fuck are you whining about you anti-white turd.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20803564
Sorry, I just have a melt down when I see other people enjoying things that I enjoy despite the fact that they are CLEARLY in my out-group and should know better. Just weird! It's biological for ME to love it, it's NORMAL, but when someone else does like they're faking it or trying to ruin it for me!

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>>20803555
actually rumiko takahashi invented anime

[Anonymous No.]

thanks jamal. don't need these racists fucking shit up here.

[Anonymous No.]

u know japanese society and language is built on in and outgroups and treating ppl differently based on those distinctions

[Anonymous No.]

Local djt nigger has chimp out.

黒人を追い出せ

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>>20803619
you can take the "japanese" out of that statement

[Anonymous No.]

some societies are less prone to doing it than others. in fact sometimes half of certain countries actually want to expand the ingroup and inadvertently destroy everything they love.

[Anonymous No.]

this thread is about brotherly love, not simple politiks

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>>20803619
my fave thing is how ppl talk mad shit behind ur back but wont ever dare to say it to ur face like some kinda pussies unless u beat it out of them ive never experienced this anywhere else

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>>20803648
never thought id get to post this one again

[Anonymous No.]

黒人の合意後：
劣等人物
下等生物
動物
家畜
糞
廃棄物

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>>20803655
it's pure 思いやり that they don't destroy you publicly and instead do it in a way that won't damage your pride

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>>20803701
>合意後
Thanks google IME
黒人の同意語：
劣等人物
下等生物
動物
家畜
糞
廃棄物

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>>20803705

yeah it's definitely google IME and not the fact you typed ごういご instead of どういご dumbass racist ass cracker ass nibba

[Anonymous No.]

why are you trying to learn another language if you're a racist? just stick w/ wypipo shit like eating raw chicken lmao

[Anonymous No.]

it sounds like you have a very cartoonish/immature interpretation of what it means to be racist

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https://youtu.be/XnnCLbYXVTc?t=252
jamal why havent you made a streamable of this clip of matt calling himself autistic

[Anonymous No.]

what about this one

[Anonymous No.]

steve is officially native unvetted

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>>20803705
家畜なら役に立つはずがそれはないよ

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>>20803726
cuz i dont watch matt vids typically even the 1s posted itt

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>>20802762
this is a pretty solid own just comin back to it again lmao

[Anonymous No.]

Nothing will ever beat matt making that video about talking to gaijins in nihongo and "cringe," then topping it off by scripting out the equivalent of a reddit post and taking multiple takes to record it like a dogen video and post it to his patreon

https://vocaroo.com/i/s0RYPh6WwowD
seriously what was this guy trying to accomplish

[Anonymous No.]

trying to keep up the charade ?

honestly the first 10 seconds of that vocaroo its pretty obvious whats up u cant fake it till u make it if u try to fake the thing u arent currently making *points to brain*

[Anonymous No.]

when you add an iya nandarou into your script to keep it feeling natural cause you're just a normal guy who doesnt care what people think

[Anonymous No.]

i mean if it walks like a duck quacks like a duck and hasnt read any of this philosophical text because its really dense like actual philosophical text *flips thru the pages* then its prolly a duck

https://streamable.com/yr6fm

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>>20802810
good enough but the refer back part can be dojg or hjgp instead of tae kim for multiple reasons

[Anonymous No.]

you dont need to read any dense philosophical texts when you can just hit upon the fundamentals during an acid trip

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>>20803738
oh shit can that happen
how many jozus does a katakoto cancel out

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>>20803798

if you've never been katakoto'd you havent experienced the suffering of a true nihongo master

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>>20803798
its pretty solid anal devastation

like if steve wasnt already poopin in diapers (bc hes old) then i would say hes gonna be poopin in diaps thanks to his newly dilated gape

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>>20801628
Every psychedelic user ever: dude wow I am completely changed my eyes were so closed before I am so filled with open mindedness and empathy and understanding everybody should do this but also if they do and it doesn’t change anything because they weren’t narrominded before then they’re actually lying or aren’t doing it properly I think that way because I superficially feel those emotions and they immediately shut off when somebody says something that doesn’t fit my worldview because they are clearly ignorant or brainwashed and I know that’s true becuse I feel so openminded so I must automatically be more openminded than everyone else btw psychaedelics totally tear down your ego dude haha

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thank god im straight edge

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>>20801905
I do forget that some people literally can’t even subvocalize, how would you introspect? You wouldn’t!

[Anonymous No.]

Just looking at these characters fills me with depression and despair. Maybe I'm too sensitive.

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honestly if you havent done acid you cant really take the piss. it's quite inexplicable what it does to your brain, partially because what it does to you is very much tied up w/ who you are as an individual & how your brain works in the first place.

however, we can make fun of matt's superficial 'revelations' because it implies hes a dumbass who never thought about any of this shit before

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>>20801897
Probably something like “there’s a god but all religion is teh opiate for the masses” and in a few years it’ll be “[non western prechristan] religion is true according to my extensive research on Wikipedia”

[Anonymous No.]

one pill two pill

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>>20804032
I'd be depressed too if I couldn't read one of the most common words in japanese.

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>>20804032
do u need help pronouncing this one as well

[Anonymous No.]

when I do rtk, should I try and learn the Japanese vocab part too or just focus on the meaning and mnemonics side of things?

[Anonymous No.]

You're too much in attack mode. I meant the content of those two characters, not the need for kanji.

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>>20804047
yeah is it zangeng or zangneng im a little confused on how the n combines with the ne

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>>20804035
im pretty sure i can just say anyone that corrupts their human temple with idiot drugs is a confirmed retard unless they do something cool like makoto kawabata or w/e

>>20804058
actually theres just no g at all anywhere very straightforward ; )

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>>20804054
you should skip rtk and ignore the meaning and mnemonics side of things and learn japanese vocab
but you aint gonna do that so gambare anyway

[Anonymous No.]

dont make me post another clip of the word 恋愛

[Anonymous No.]

just fuckin post renai circulation and call it a day

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>>20804062
what if you corrupt it with cool drugs instead i think i saw some rappers doing cool drugs in one of those videos ha ha asking for a friend

[Anonymous No.]

fuck it il ldo it myself

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eEoMI9BwHp4

[Anonymous No.]

can i politely refuse something by saying ありがとうじゃない?

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>>20804062
>im pretty sure i can just say anyone that corrupts their human temple with idiot drugs is a confirmed retard

you have to extend this for all drugs, like caffeine and shit too, or painkillers. cause acid is physically harmless. it's just a mental experience.

anyway imo only retards wouldn't try psychs at least once in their life. aldous huxley took a syringe full of acid on his deathbed cause he knew that it's way more interesting than anything you could ever experience in conscience thought.

[Anonymous No.]

human temple my ass
you're all corrupting your human temple by shitposting on djt all day

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>>20804082
uhh maybe if u do it like this ありがとう...じゃない but ur definitely going to alienate ppl

>>20804083
well in my case personally i dont even take aspirin so i adhere to the principles of straight edge not only regarding drugs but everything else like never having sex

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>>20804054
Rtk is really only good for teaching you how to produce characters from a meaning. You can learn vocab on the side or afterwards but it's really its own little thing in the grand scheme of learning japanese

[Anonymous No.]

lol imagine saying "i dont even take aspirin" like thats something cool to be proud of

[Anonymous No.]

also if ur lifes so trash that ud rather just fuck with ur brain by corrupting your human temple and letting sxe jesus down then lmfao

[Anonymous No.]

no...i dont need medicine for this headache...this is my pain to bear, alone............

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>>20804096
well truth is im never sore and my blood pressures good so i dont need an aspirin regimen to thin my blood so yah shits so great i dont need to put drugs in my body or alcohol if i catch any of u drinking ur ded btw

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>>20804088
i cant believe ntr is so much cooler than me
>>20804104
jesus wanted you to endure this test of faith on your own

[Anonymous No.]

im drunk right now do something about it

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>>20804118
*literally grabs u by the collar thru the computer screen and bashes ur drunk nerd face in*

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>>20804082
Nononono

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>>20804098

it's not really about life being trash or not. im just sayin you'll go through your entire life and never once experience anything even in the same dimension of what it's like being on acid. & you only get one life (perhaps)

もったいないんじゃない？

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is it possible to vouch for acid without bein obnoxious cause i aint ever seen it happen

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>>20804132
i mean i can say that u can go thru life and never experience once anything even in the same dimension as literally cutting of ur own dick with a butcher knife on a cutting board

are u gonna do it or enjoy what god has already given u and not quite literally throw it back in his face

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>>20804141
>i mean i can say that u can go thru life and never experience once anything even in the same dimension as literally cutting of ur own dick with a butcher knife on a cutting board

that's true, but obviously we're talking about something that's ultimately harmless vs something that has lasting repercussions.

i don't think acid is gonna change your life or some mad hippy shit, it's just a very interesting mental rollercoaster that's worth trying

[Anonymous No.]

Today's kanji tiem is a quick one. We have a chair above an orifice, denoting a toilet. Of course, each and every home or office must have a toilet and this kanji means "each" or "every". The on reading is カク which sounds close enough to the caca or poop that goes in the toilet. The kun reading is おの, which you might say if your toilet is jammed.

>>20804127
Alternatively, 各々各々

[Anonymous No.]

*standing over a dying cancer patient who's about to get painkillers* are you gonna enjoy what god has given you or are you gonna throw it back in his face

[Anonymous No.]

die with ur boots on pussy

[Anonymous No.]

also i kind of disagree b/c the pain you feel from cutting your dick off is something you may well feel. it's not actually possible to recreate the mental environment that occurs w/ acid/mushrooms/dmt in any other way

[Anonymous No.]

let's not get ahead of ourselves here folks, there's not a single person on the entire planet whose life isn't a sick joke

the world is a zoo and i hope it gets eva'd

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>>20804082
yes but you have to scream it

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>>20804148
>lasting repercussions.
im all for doin it if you want to but what if acid made me into another preacher gettin worked up every time they meet an acid virgin
thats some lastin repercussions if you ask me
>>20804169
with you on the first half

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>>20804169
senpai...

[Anonymous No.]

lsd is more likely to just give u further psychosis

also life rules and is a lot of fun and i can only thank jesus that i can just talk hella shit on the internet at any and every hour of every day

[Anonymous No.]

oh and also for anime

thank u for anime jesus sama

[Anonymous No.]

How many pages did you read today? I read around 50 pages today

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>>20804180

i agree that usually ppl who are obsessive about psychs are annoying af and usually just retards, but i dont think you can judge the drug itself based on that is all im saying m8

i generally cant even relate to the type of experience that those kinds of ppl talk about but i still think it's worth trying at least once in your life, possibly on your deathbed so you can join the ether peacefully

[Anonymous No.]

>when ur 1 friend wont stfu about drugs

[Anonymous No.]

that 1 friend is this thread rn

[Anonymous No.]

blame matt-dono for bring it up

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>>20804083
It’s dumb because there’s there’s arbitrary amounts of information for any observation, psychedelics mainly just introduce derealization/depersonalization (among other things) which makes observations about existence and reality seem more “true” than they are.
You’re probably thinking you’re hot shit because you think you think in terms of atoms and light years woah epistemology, woah human experience is bound within the material universe thinking in those terms is more valid than the human-environment model that comes naturally... actually I don’t even care, if you are stuck on nihilistic angst like a teenager and it makes you feel more insightful than normoids then go for it.

[Anonymous No.]

got dang it u stupid fUCkign towel

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>>20804111
suffering is the natural state for a Christian. -Blaise Pascal

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blaze pascal didnt even live as long as me he didnt know shit 400 years ago and he doesnt know shit now

also suffering is the natural state until u find jesus just fyi then life becomes an epic party of good feelings and good vibes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3JjRQk-F0p0

[Anonymous No.]

the ultiamte drug is friendship...lets nakanaorisiyoune

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>>20804222
>You’re probably thinking you’re hot shit

you clearly have a grudge against an idea that i never expressed. i already said i don't think it will change your life, or offer any insight. the experience in itself is undeniably interesting and entirely different from anything else, and not simply because of the aspects you suggest. to suggest otherwise is just pretension

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>>20804231
わたくし or bust

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So in banana fish his plan was to get fucked in the ass so he could get a tylenol capsule to kiss the other guy with. This is worse than the piss drinking in jojo.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20804291
Yeah but Giornio doesn't actually drink piss tho

[Anonymous No.]

thats what you get for watching fujosi cartoons. only pure piss drinking in this thread please

[Anonymous No.]

>>20804305
It still passed through his lips and into his mouth, he at least smelled it if not tasted it a little.

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>>20804264
I have a bias against an attitude that I’ve seen occur in the hilarious majority of psychadelics users to varying degrees yeah not all etc but it’s funny how you’re worried about generalizations now all of a sudden
>it’s not because of the aspects you mentioned
I didn’t mention things other things that arguably make up most of the trip because 1. there’s a lot with with that drug specifically and 2. even the major changes like the sensory filters dropping and serotonin spiking only flavour the perspective that you get, they don’t form he basis of it

[Anonymous No.]

post the pure piss drinking pic i know u got it

[Anonymous No.]

i dont know what ur talking about

[Anonymous No.]

Like a fine wine.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20804328
Me on the left uwu

[Anonymous No.]

no one cares about psychedelics you fuckin fags stfu

[Anonymous No.]

>learn the basic hiragana and katakana
>learn the foundations of grammar
>dude read lmao
this gonna soul real dumb but, is there any video or article or something that shows a brainlet like me HOW to start reading? Like an example of how a beginning reader would read the content before their eyes? I just don't know how to even approach something like this without getting frustrated and it would be really good to get more of an idea what I should and should not being doing. I feel like the term reading is a misconception in itself

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>>20804341

would much rather talk about piss drinking

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>>20804343

nigga just read the damnn words on the page

わたしはゲイです

sound it out and figure it out based on what you learned

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>>20804343
u need to watch 10000 hours of eng subbed anime to stand a chance at reading

sorry thats just how it works gl m8

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>>20804343
Look at the text and try to figure out what it means. Use google a lot. You will inevitably get frustrated, when you get too frustrated i suggest you put in a few hours of english subbed anime and read more tomorrow.

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>>20804343
Yeah there’s a few grammar books that guide you through parsing, eg cues and the progressive simplification of Japanese sentences and such

[Anonymous No.]

>>20804343
it's possible to put yotsuba vol. 1 in english and nihongo side by side on your screen

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>>20804360
to mention one, DOJG intermediate has a section on this from about page ~50 I think

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>>20804349
At least the piss drinking is Japanese related. Instead of the argument of some pseudo intellectual straightedge retard and the other dipshit who keeps humoring him

[Anonymous No.]

Found some reading material for you degenerates
https://www.pixiv.net/novel/show.php?id=1891661

[Anonymous No.]

"at least the piss drinking is japanese related"

llmoaf

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>>20804368
Dolly has a couple videos on it, and it’s also covered to some extent in the book she has a bunch of material based on, i would recommend watching his vids while also reading the book i forget the name of it though

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>>20804381

youre contributing to your own problem here

[Anonymous No.]

btw u got the word order wrong in a pseudo retard straightedge intellectual

[Anonymous No.]

>>20804399
complaining about something just while conversation about it is coming to close is the best way to keep the topic alive, why haven’t retards noticed this by now, do they just feel the need to bleat?

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>>20804343
Jesus Christ. Are zoomers even human?

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>>20804408
This is literally the same exact post as
>>20804381

You are also keeping the conversation alive retard. Just like I am by also making this post.

[Anonymous No.]

holy sHIT

[Anonymous No.]

jamal's work is better described as post intellectual

[Anonymous No.]

>>20804382
thanks

[Anonymous No.]

Why is literally nothing fun to read?

[Anonymous No.]

what did u think reading would suddenly become less gay in japanese ? lol

[Anonymous No.]

how long/hard would I have to study to be able to play and understand decently the content in mother 1/2/3?

[Anonymous No.]

10000 clocked and verified anime hours w/ eng subs

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>>20804489
Honestly yes

[Anonymous No.]

出撃

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>>20804499
well surprise it doesnt

i mean to even get thru subahibi u gotta make liberal use of the ctrl key otherwise ur stuck reading hours of complete tripe garbage

[Anonymous No.]

>>20804487
Because struggling with comprehension is less fun than just reading it in your native language?
>>20804491
Probably a lot more time than you're willing to invest honestly.

[Anonymous No.]

全員 vs 出撃, which one is more iconic

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>>20804512
I don't need to understand perfectly the sarcasm or humor per se, but I'm mostly talking about plot points and main takeaways. I already have played them in English ad nauseam so it's not that important. not now anyways.

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>>20804520
sally vs sortie

[Anonymous No.]

Woah

[Anonymous No.]

What even makes yotsuba so good to start with for reading?
This stupid character can't finish a sentence without some stupid ass cutesy shit. Completely different from any of the stuff TK taught me about how sentences end.

[Anonymous No.]

dang whats up with suddenly all these sick nasty owns on lingo steve

[Anonymous No.]

btw this is the power of someone who knows a lot

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7c5Xy3GZCac#t=535

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>>20804563
whaaaaaaaaat the fuck

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>>20804553
it's just inoffensive and extremely well known
you could go with anything else, just don't expect to see anything different, yotsuba doesn't speak in moe

[Anonymous No.]

oh apparently he was saying the korean version of ために
still wtf

[Anonymous No.]

>>20804578
yeah I don't mean she's one of those moe fucks. But she sure as shit isn't ending her sentences in desu or da either. She's tripping me up

[Anonymous No.]

>>20804583
yeah get used to it

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>>20804524
Well I haven't played it but it looks like there isn't any Kanji in the game so that would make it pretty easy to read and look up words you are unfamiliar with. If you are already familiar with the plot that should help as well. Just get the games and start playing them and study at the same time. It'll be good motivation to keep learning if you're already playing the game in Japanese. Shouldn't take more than a few months to get the hang of it as long as you're dedicated to it.

[Anonymous No.]

I'm reading the comments on the katakoto one about Steve and honestly the haters are just coming across as petty xenophobic trolls. Pretty lame desu

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>>20804553
I thought the same thing too. Its pretty funny at times so I kept reading them though. It gets you to feel the japanese instead of hang on every word over analyzing like you will in other stuff. It teaches of how the blur syllables together too. Like ねー being ない , after the first volume you get the hang of it.

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>>20804591
whats the matter white boi, cant take the heat? thought you wanted less jouzu desu ne's

[Anonymous No.]

>>20804594
>>20804583
if you want a less frustrating method to internalize nihonese colloquialisms just watch a bunch of subbed anime

[Anonymous No.]

>>20804591
why dont u at one of the trolls and ask for his opinion on mattvsjapan lol

[Anonymous No.]

>>20804589
>no kanji would make it easy
now I'm a noob, but isn't it actually more of a pain in the ass to read straight kana?

[Anonymous No.]

hmm i wonder u have kanji which u dont actually read and u have kana which u actually do

i wonder which is harder to read

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>>20804343
If you are reading a manga, read some chapters or even the first volume alongside the translation. It can help you figure out how stuff works. When I started I did it with nisekoi, and it helped me alot. But don't depend on it too much, sometimes the translations are wrong.

[Anonymous No.]

subbed manga i like it

[Anonymous No.]

10k pages of english subbed manga or you're never gonna make it

[Anonymous No.]

maynga? monga? manja?

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

まんあ

[Anonymous No.]

わかってです

[Anonymous No.]

>>20804553
It's a fun manga that anyone can enjoy reading. Crying over slang and whatnot is pointless since you are going to need to learn that pretty soon anyways, regardless of what you read

[Anonymous No.]

>>20804563
This is what happens when you don't watch a lot of anime, you don't even know how to pronounce basic shit

[Anonymous No.]

>>20804553
>Completely different from any of the stuff TK taught me about how sentences end.
it would suck if you learned something that tk didnt teach you

[Anonymous No.]

>>20804610
Beginners have trouble since they don't know Japanese well enough. For natives it's not a big deal, just a bit slower to read since they aren't as used to it as kanji

[Anonymous No.]

>てもね

[Anonymous No.]

>>20804617
>sometimes the translations are wrong
>sometimes

[Anonymous No.]

>>20804610
Yes it's a pain in the ass because it's harder to parse, but it's still much easier to "read" it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20804202
maybe the equivalent of 1 LN page. maybe. idk how many lines make up a typical LN page.

[mia discord No.]

I feel there's a bunch of advice of AJATT/MIA that should be refocused/expanded for a more mature audience. I'm a 29 year old dude. There's a few manga that I love reading but I've never been able to get into anime, because of pretty much the same reasons Matt gave in the latest Q&A, and I feel like a lot of the immersion advice here is based around watching hours of anime (although the community here does a wonderful job at recommending non-anime resources).

Which might be an overarching theme to consider. I really applaud the people I've seen interviewed by Matt. They're all intelligent and tenacious bright people who have achieved fluency, but they all are very young folks who don't seem to have that much in the way of responsibilities besides themselves. Additionally, it seems most of these people had to set aside wellbeing, mental health and social life to achieve the goal of fluency, which I think this community should discourage more than it is currently doing.

This is in no way an indictment on the method or these people, but it would be encouraging to know more of people with a family and/or a full time job who managed to make this method work.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20804733
Matt already recommended people with jobs and family to just immerse as much as they can in their free time. It's not complicated.

[Anonymous No.]

The entire point is that the more exposure/immersion you receive the more you will learn. There's hardly any advice you really need besides that desu

[Anonymous No.]

if you don't like japanese media you probably shouldn't learn japanese. i've never seen someone learn japanese and actually be happy with the end result if they didn't actually enjoy watching or reading at least some type of japanese content

[Anonymous No.]

>>20804733
>I've never been able to get into anime, because of pretty much the same reasons Matt gave in the latest Q&A
What's the excuse?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20804758
Yeah, imagine learning Japanese to fucking live in Japan. Maybe if you're a 3rd worlder but any Western nation is preferable to Japan

[Anonymous No.]

When someone like Matt "grows out of" anime and claims "I just can't suspend disbelief as easily as I used to" it makes me question if I'm a manchild for being able to.

Live action shows simply do not do it for me. I even got bored of western smash hits like Breaking Bad and to this day I can't watch the final season because I just don't care. I feel like I'll always prefer anime. The worlds and characters are more interesting to me.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20804782
>any Western nation is preferable to Japan
nope

[Anonymous No.]

t. ignorant white dude who is in for a rude awakening when he realizes how conformist japs are

[Anonymous No.]

imagine learning Japanese just because you like anime/manga

[Anonymous No.]

>>20804754
Wrong

Step 1) learn the kana. Don’t skimp out on the katakana, write both alphabets by hand at least 50 times or until you’ve memorized how it’s written
Step 2) learn kanji. Go through each of the kanjis, reciting the readings, recalling it’s meaning, and writing it by hand until you can write a kanji when you hear its reading or hear its keyword.
Step 3) learn the grammar. Tae Kim is a great resource but it’s incomplete, I highly recommend a grammar book based flash card deck instead because people tend to have a harder time producing proper grammar than they do producing proper vocab.
Step 4) either start trying to read or start speaking in Japanese, depending on whether you are an introvert or an extrovert (take an online test if you’re not sure which one you are)
Step 5) once you’re confident in your abilities, take the JLPT N1 test

And wala you now know Japanese

[Anonymous No.]

>>20804802
He probably only watched one type of anime and got tired of it

[Anonymous No.]

>>20804231
what is /djt/s thoughts on this guy? is his approach on language learning good? I've been listening to a lot of his videos

[Anonymous No.]

>>20804808
can we put this in the op from now on so everyone knows what to do

[Anonymous No.]

>>20804808
Or just skip all of that by watching anime

[Anonymous No.]

>>20804815
He was the shilled eceleb before matt and whoever else the shitposters are spamming these days

[Anonymous No.]

>>20804815
You have to take advice from Jews with a grain of salt. They mean well but they have a verbal IQ of 120 or higher so learning languages comes easier to them. They could be using inefficient methods which their intelligence allows them to overcome. As a gentile or some other kind of person you may struggle.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20804815
Well he's no Nama-sensei

[Anonymous No.]

jews evolved advanced language learning capabilities due to being ejected from so many different places over the years, only the ones who could assimilate the easiest survived

[Anonymous No.]

>>20804820
Matt isn't posted in shitposts or spam. He is seriously leading the way for Japanese learners everywhere.

[Anonymous No.]

nah steve is based but he's so old and and has spent his life learning so many different languages that he can barely speak any of them worth a shit anymore

[Anonymous No.]

>>20804802
He doesn’t want to admit that he thinks anime is uncool and that he doesn’t want to feel like a loser anymore.

[Anonymous No.]

https://vocaroo.com/i/s1X1WatWZacO
jampu gappemnguo?
jampu gappeinhua
janmpu gappenguo?
janpu gapego

[Anonymous No.]

>>20804852
ジャンプ合併号
our friend 美濁音 strikes again

[Anonymous No.]

>>20804860
鼻濁音 fuck pressed space bar too many times

[Anonymous No.]

just one piece of advice for all the anime watchers of djt
胸を張って生きろ

[Anonymous No.]

たまにはおふろにはいれ

２じかんだ

[Anonymous No.]

Anyone else have a hard time going from English to a language like Japanese that doesn't use things like words and sentences to convey ideas? I have a really hard time wrapping myself around the basic concepts since it just fundamentally works in a completely different way from any language I've ever read or spoken in my life. Not sure what to do to get past this, does it get easier with repeated exposure or what?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20804906
いいんじゃない？
3日おきにシャワ－を浴びる

[Anonymous No.]

huh

[Anonymous No.]

>>20804908
i can assure you japanese use words and sentences to convey ideas

[Anonymous No.]

>>20804869
>one piece
i almost want to read it but reading anything without yomichan just feels like a waste

[Anonymous No.]

>>20804922
臭そう

[Anonymous No.]

>>20804924
Wait, really? I thought they just used kanji

[Anonymous No.]

>>20804908
>Japanese that doesn't use things like words and sentences to convey ideas

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>20802672
>>20804553
>>20804594
>>20804617
>>20804650
>>20804926
Manga isn't reading though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20804922
がいじんのくさみは

なにからでるの？

しょうじき

いぬみたいなにおいがする

[Anonymous No.]

>>20804944
Posting here isn't learning Japanese
Why are you wasting your time here?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20804939
ラッコ型 boys where we at

[Anonymous No.]

>>20804950

[Anonymous No.]

>>20804952
pretty sure thats the only one anyone realistically does

[Anonymous No.]

i used to do カエル型 on my bed when i was 11 and サル型 in the shower sometimes

[Anonymous No.]

>>20804928
Kanji are words, or at least symbols that represent words. A word is just any spoken language with defined pronunciation(s) and meaning(s). You don't need kanji to speak or listen to Japanese. You only need kanji to be literate.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20804987
>Kanji are words

[Anonymous No.]

mods please ban anyone who tries to make another one of these threads
please
please

[Anonymous No.]

whats the deal with 〆る its not in kanji dict. it doesnt even look like a real kanji. is it a kokuji

[Anonymous No.]

>>20805070
yes

[Anonymous No.]

it's 和製漢字

[Anonymous No.]

>manga uses a weird font that looks just off enough to make you doubt yourself
やめろ！！

[Anonymous No.]

pfffft font
push yourself harder nerd, you should be reading those scribbly mangaka comments in the back every time for practice

[Anonymous No.]

I am sure it's a thing, but I am stupid. Is there a program that screenshot kanji (while reading manga) and recognize/translate them?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20805104
they are called OCR. google it
here's one:
http://capture2text.sourceforge.net/

[Anonymous No.]

>>20805104
The guide should have a section about this in which it suggests using kanjitomo. Ive found said program to work decently.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20804563
damn why am i wasting my 20s learning japanese if it's just going to degrade like this? even a decade in japan didn't help steve. I should be learning a real skill like programming

[Anonymous No.]

>>20805186
steve learned japanese and then barely touched it while he went on to try learning like 5000 different languages
if you keep using japanese throughout your life and don't go off learning russian and korean and whatever the fuck for the thrill of it then your japanese ability will be fine

[Anonymous No.]

御手洗

[Anonymous No.]

>>20805092
そのとうじ

まじょのたっっきゅうびん

に

ハマっていて

きょくめいも

おぼえたてだったんですが

にさいじが

だじゃれをいうのが

おもしろくて

へんなこといったら

かきとめよう

と

おもいました

まる

[Anonymous No.]

>>20805287
助けたい気持ちは嬉しいけど
あれは難しいと言っているのであって読めないわけじゃないよ
勘違いしないでよね

[Anonymous No.]

wrote so much and still can't make a つ that looks good

[Anonymous No.]

>>20805443
have you tried looking for handwriting lesson videos from natives on youtube

[Anonymous No.]

>>20805443
Embrace your inner hipster and just write
川 instead.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20805455
I'd feel so embarrassed going back to hiragana writing lessons but I guess I have to

[Anonymous No.]

>>20805468
the first time you probably just looked at shitty stroke order charts for gaijin
nothin embarrassing about lessons aimed at fluent speakers who have shit handwriting

[Anonymous No.]

so how many books does one have to ajatt until you can japanese?

[Anonymous No.]

the shittier your handwriting is the higher you are on the nihongo totem pole
it has to be shitty in a good way though, not just wrong like a toddler or gaijin beginner

see attached image for current 1位 in high power handwriting

[Anonymous No.]

>>20805534
the difference is being shitty because you cant do better vs being shitty because you are writing too fast but if you slowed down you could make it look great easily

[Anonymous No.]

>>20805523
10000

[Anonymous No.]

>>20805523
1,000,000 words (250+ books?)

[Anonymous No.]

how do you even count 1,000,000 words in japanese

[Anonymous No.]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nMiF-je1ROU
This little girl knows more japanese than me

[Anonymous No.]

Do Jouyou kanji count as words too?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20805575
the guy who translated that video though...

[Anonymous No.]

>>20805575
>she doesnt know that there are more kanji than stars in the universe

[Anonymous No.]

Japanese spend 12 years learning 2000+ Kanji and 20-25K vocabs. How can a gaijin learn all of them in 4 years?

[Anonymous No.]

>japanese students arent learning anything but japanese in school
not again

[Anonymous No.]

>>20805648
yeah, i know they also do maths and PE

[Anonymous No.]

>>20805567
japanese doesnt have words everyones just joking around

[Anonymous No.]

>>20805652
they also learn countless things about the world not necessarily in school itself but during that period of their life
vast amounts of vocabulary can be immediately understood by an foreign adult with a simple translation
a child needs to learn about all kinds of shit outside of language to understand the meanings of many words

[Anonymous No.]

>>20805638
Because if you watch 8 hours of anime per day, you can reach 10000 hours of subbed anime within 4 years.

[Anonymous No.]

anybody having good subs2srs recommendations?

>lots a everyday dialogue
>no loud music or soundeffects
>not many obscure set phrases

[Anonymous No.]

>>20805672
And still being unable to speak a word in moon

[Anonymous No.]

>>20805760
youll be ready to start learnin though

[Anonymous No.]

>>20804808
if you do the opposite of what this retard told you, you will make it

have fun being stuck at step 2 untill you quit it all together

[Anonymous No.]

>>20804808
>Go through each of the kanjis, reciting the readings, recalling it’s meaning, and writing it by hand
this step alone requires 2 years
and by the end you still doesnt know any vocabs

[Anonymous No.]

>>20805870
you can no life it in 3 months or less but youll probably permanently cripple your motivation and enthusiasm for nippongo

[Anonymous No.]

I saw a great neologism today. A Touhou video on YouTube with a lewd thumbnail had someone comment with サ胸 instead of サムネ, I thought that was pretty clever.

[Anonymous No.]

learning japanese is really impossible. I wonder if korean is easier

[Anonymous No.]

>>20805886
Maybe you can learn Jouyou and english meaning, but not all the readings.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20804808
too complicated

1) learn hiragana
2) skim a guide in an afternoon
2) start reading and listening, look shit up if you want or don't it doesn't really matter

[Anonymous No.]

>>20805894
missed the readings part what a good bait post

[Anonymous No.]

>>20805897
Without any knowledge of Kanji is brutal to start reading.
I wonder... old video games for snes only used Kana without Kanji. But maybe they are even more difficult to understand considering 1 word in kana may have 200 different meanings

[Anonymous No.]

>>20805909
Kanji reading is important. You don't know the Kanji if you cannot read it

[Anonymous No.]

>>20805920
get over your fear of kanji and just read
if you do youll realize you were stupid for thinking this in a year

[Anonymous No.]

>>20805744
Ikebukuro west gate park

[Anonymous No.]

>>20805924
you can know all the readings a kanji can have and it doesnt mean shit if you dont know any fuckin words

[Anonymous No.]

>>20805534
みみずののたくったじ

[Anonymous No.]

i thought speaking japanese for gaijin is cringe
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o9cErhwlxrg&t=2458

[Anonymous No.]

taiheng

[Anonymous No.]

matt thinks hes becoming a pitch accent master and he hasnt even mastered ん

[Anonymous No.]

すいません

[Anonymous No.]

>>20806127
気にしないでくだせぇ

[Anonymous No.]

>>20806127
Thanks this crippled my japanese for at least three months.

[Anonymous No.]

https://youtu.be/7TNxogXJmOI

Is Nuke learning with yaoi porn now?

[Anonymous No.]

Can someone help me read this?
This is what all I can read
ゆっくりと
微笑んでいく(?)
ミライちゃん。

(この映画?で初めてその笑???)

66-5 同ポ

その笑??？
突然見ていを
くんちゃん

Cant read the kanji after 笑

[Anonymous No.]

>>20806243
Ah forgot と after 突然

[Anonymous No.]

>>20806243
笑顔

[Anonymous No.]

>>20806243
笑顔
呆然と

[Anonymous No.]

/djt/は本当に残念なヤツだね

[Anonymous No.]

>>20806334
確かに全員が

[Anonymous No.]

lying that you didnt start learning japanese because of anime is a right of passage into the japanese learning community. i think the best one i saw so far was yogapants saying he stared learning japanese because he was interested in japanese industrialization during the meiji restoration like yeah right lol

[Anonymous No.]

>>20806334
あたしはだめだけど

おにいちゃんはできる

[Anonymous No.]

>>20806365
誰がおにいかんですか

[Anonymous No.]

>>20806360
What's a believable non-pathetic reason for learning Japanese I can use when people ask?
I can't just say want to be better at reading anime porn.

[Anonymous No.]

Make sure nobody even knows you're learning japanese.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20806391
if forced into the situation use the generic empty reason for learning a language that no one ever questions
>the culture is really interesting
maybe be prepared to give some boring trivia you could find in a tourist pamphlet if they ask for an example
but ideally >>20806414

[Anonymous No.]

>>20806414
the learning japanese bit or the fact that you can read japanese?

[Anonymous No.]

say you wanted to be bilingual

[Anonymous No.]

i just say "I enjoy learning languages and I wanted a challenge" which is basically true anyway, and noone over grills me

[Anonymous No.]

>>20806391
why not just be honest and say https://streamable.com/l6h0h

they will already be immediately impressed because u already took care of their next question which is to say something in japanese

[Anonymous No.]

someone who wants to become itiban tuyoi isnt cool enough to read anime porn

[Anonymous No.]

yoshi time for rtk reviews

[Anonymous No.]

I've been reading NHK Easy for almost 200 days every day and I can still only understand the grammar (can't produce it myself). Am I doing something wrong here? How do you absorb the grammar when you read stuff? I just read it once, maybe twice or even three times if it's interesting, same for how many times I listen to it.

[Anonymous No.]

You're underestimating how long it takes to learn Japanese. Adjust this or you'll give up soon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20806467
first of all what do you mean when you say absorb? what do you want to do? it seems like you already understand it so you want to be able to produce it?

[Anonymous No.]

realistically you should aim to be good at japanese 10 years from now. there's a lot of twists and turns on the way that it's probably going to take that long no matter what you do unless you are very high IQ and spend all day studying like matt-dono

[Anonymous No.]

everyone has different ideas of what it means to be good in a language u gotta qualify ur statement a little. matts autistic idea of being good means literally being japanese so you'll never be good by his standards

[Anonymous No.]

>>20806482
Yes I want to be able to output it. I thought if I just kept absorbing it more and more then I'd be able to output it by now. I thought the way it worked was that you start understanding a little, then a lot, then you understand most of it, then all of it, then you can produce it, but that's not happening with me. 200 days, I've been able to understand it all since about 150.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20800914
Can someone actually explain to me (concisely is okay) why I shouldn't use WaniKani? I've passed through the first two levels so far, and the pace seems kinda slow-ish (I guess? I'm not sure), but 95% on mnemonics over there actually do help me memorize these congy and vocabulary words.
Is WaniKani simply slower than Anki or is it like bad in the long run?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20806509
WaniKani is bad in the same manner RTK is retarded. Why would you learn elaborate stories for kanji instead of, you know, learning the language?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20806500
it's true that you will be able to output after enough input but i don't believe you have enough input by just reading news articles. it could take thousands of hours of listening and hundreds of hours of reading idk the numbers since i learned how to output in a classroom when i first started learning

if you want to learn how to output by outputting i think you can do that with stuff like hellotalk where you can have natives correct what you type. i would be careful of forcing output without strict correction since you won't have a reliable enough model of japanese to realize when you mess up

[Anonymous No.]

>>20806509
Wanikani is deliberately slow to keep you subscribed for longer. Why the fuck would you pay hundreds of hundreds of dollars when you can do it all for free? If you want to pay for something buy a textbook.

[Anonymous No.]

No way, right? That second kanji on both words seems to be missing way too many strokes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20806520
I mean I want to be able to output the same structures I've been reading for 200 days.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20806509
i can explain why other methods of vocabulary acquisition/kanji ''learning'' are better but i don't really know if wanikani is bad since i never completed it so i wont tell you why you shouldnt use it.

what i would suggest is find people in the forums who have completed the program and ask them how good they are at reading japanese novels. if you are satisfied with that answer then i dont see why you shouldnt do it if thats what you want to do

[Anonymous No.]

>>20806414
This (at least until I'm N1), although the real reason is I was looking to learn another foreign language with interesting grammar like German or Russian, but Japanese has more ressources and a bigger community, which makes learning easier and more fun.
Also work opportunities in Tokyo / Osaka would bring me closer to home.
I guess anime is a bonus.

[Anonymous No.]

lol rtk

[Anonymous No.]

>>20806533

观 this is the simplified chinese version of 観, hope this helps

[Anonymous No.]

>>20806556
why did I try to read chinese?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20806547

whats so funny m8

[Anonymous No.]

>>20806570

im not saying it's necessarily chinese. but simplified chinese is essentially just kanji written cursively with as few strokes as possible.

handwritten kanji often doesn't follow proper stroke rules except general order, some strokes are often missing/abbreviated/etc.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20806579

here's an example of even a simple kanji written cursively rendering it looking completely different than usual but still entirely readable by natives

[Anonymous No.]

can someone in matts discord upload those pdfs of the accent dictionaries that matt scanned

[Anonymous No.]

wait wtf dekiru is ateji?

[Anonymous No.]

wait wtf わたしはゲイだと??

[Anonymous No.]

>>20806692

no it's not ateji

[Anonymous No.]

no it's detekuru

[Anonymous No.]

>>20805534
Me on the right

[Anonymous No.]

>>20805534
me on the left when i post

[Anonymous No.]

>>20806726
explain this then https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/当て字#当て字の例

[Anonymous No.]

>>20806743

>needs citation

im more convinced by this guy

https://okwave.jp/qa/q5203016.html

it's pretty obvious that if you look at the etymology of it it makes sense as 出て来る > 生まれる

altho the meaning doesn't transfer as well for 'can' it's still obviously not ateji

[Anonymous No.]

lol wktk ktkr ksk

[Anonymous No.]

>>20806757
thanks

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

pretty much

[Anonymous No.]

>>20806391
The absolute best thing you can do is learn another language first (a normie one like French or German not Russian and DEFINITELY not another Asian one).
if you are learning Japanese then you could probably bang out French in like 2 months no problem. It totally dispels the initial impression “white guy learning Japanese” gives and instead fosters a positive, worldly image.

[Anonymous No.]

learning french is not that much easier than learning japanese. you still have to grind 10k hours of eng-subbed l'animacion

[Anonymous No.]

how the fuck is someone supposed to learn a language if that language doesn't have many and interesting native cartoons

[Anonymous No.]

>>20806857

watch dubbed in anime in french

[Anonymous No.]

>>20806845
Imagine how much of a sexual deviant you'd become after 10,000 hours of Totally Spies.

[Anonymous No.]

i was just thinkin ud watch sailormoon french dub

[Anonymous No.]

If you don't know 'suddenly' word written in at least 5 different ways - you don't know Japanese.

[Anonymous No.]

I know this one
既に

[Anonymous No.]

突然
唐突
突如
咄嗟に
急に
first ones in order of appearance in my head. matt is probably right about certain concepts having a base entry in ur head i guess mine is totsuzen

[Anonymous No.]

わたしは突然ゲイになちゃった

[Anonymous No.]

What does this signify?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20806885
I looked in my mining deck.
ふと
いきなり
突然
突如
急激
急に
忽然
唐突
偶然
俄然
ぽっくり
ぽっかり
ぷいと
ぴたりと
ひょっこり
ぱっと
どっと
どこからともなく
たちまち
すっと
さっと
ぐっと
がらっと
がくんと
The last few ones are mostly situational.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20806918
ちう?

[Anonymous No.]

とっとと

[Anonymous No.]

>>20806922

you're using bilingual definitions?...

[Anonymous No.]

Imagine learning nihongo to read manga and not having heard of the Angoulême Festival.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20806938
My deck isn't in English and I picked my own definitions, so something like that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20806938
Not like it makes a difference what definition you put on the back of an Anki card.

[Anonymous No.]

Imaging thinking I give a fuck about some festival.

[Anonymous No.]

>People are unironically post matt and discuss his thought processes while trying to apply thjem on their own.The absolute state of DJT. reddit won

[Anonymous No.]

>>20806948
No it's important when i was a total beginner i frequently mixed up あ and お and as a result i messed up making certain cards and am still mispronouncing those words

[Anonymous No.]

>>20806922
im usually not the one who awards these but this is definitely the least intelligent post of the thread

[Anonymous No.]

>>20806994
They've only won in the sense that you mention their name in every thread. The obsession over some loser forum on another loser forum will never make sense to me.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20807000
im usually not the one who awards these but this is definitely the least intelligent post of the thread

[Anonymous No.]

>>20807005
When you have nothing the few possessions you own have great value .

[Anonymous No.]

>>20807008
im usually not the one who awards these but this is definitely the least intelligent post of the thread

[Anonymous No.]

competition is tough for least intelligent poster

[Anonymous No.]

jfc this place has become worse than r/learnjapanese

[Anonymous No.]

What do you mean "become"?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20807032
dont let the tobira hit u on the ketsu on the way out bakusyou

[Anonymous No.]

People shill matt some abhuman even posted our secret itazuraneko site on his patreon resourse list. The power of tribalistic normalfags. You need to fight if you don't want to left behind. Didn't you learn this from anime?

[Anonymous No.]

dont worry the most important resource is still safe

http://nihongobyjamal.neocities.org

[Anonymous No.]

Ironically you are the only one i can count on jamal. The final guardian of this sacred place. Enduring years of torment and anguish to protect the origin.

[Anonymous No.]

torment and anguish? from waht

[Anonymous No.]

https://forvo.com/word/鳳凰を追う王を覆おう/
lmao

[Anonymous No.]

>>20807130
lmnfao at least this thread had 1 good thing before it ended

[Anonymous No.]

>>20806994
>>20807032
only someone who doesn't go on learnjapanese would say this

[Anonymous No.]

>>20807130
That's why you practice pitch accent for lads
Thanks matto-sama

[Anonymous No.]

Is there a youtube channel about anime and manga but in Japanese?
I just can't watch anime anymore and need to practice my listening.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20807185
I can imagine only one thing that is worse than anime and manga and that is watching a video about someone talking about manga and anime.

[Anonymous No.]

"i hate anime it's so cringy and dumb"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nlLYlE6OWOs

yeah sure buddy

[Anonymous No.]

>>20807222
Yeah probably, just give me one if any come to mind

[Anonymous No.]

>>20807222
I wonder if /a/ has the equivalent of /v/'s eceleb threads, where you can read people discussing who's their favorite eceleb who talk about watching anime.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20807251
They talk about fansubbers and the cabal.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20807251
Not that I'm aware of at least. And for these threads I just delude myself in thinking the eceleb talk is ironic.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20807251
no those threads get nuked pretty quickly

[Anonymous No.]

>>20807239
I had the exact same Pokemon poster when I was 11

[Anonymous No.]

>/a/ related e-celebs

[Anonymous No.]

>e-celebs

[Anonymous No.]

I'm struggeling to find audiobooks that are somewhat interesting to me. Is there a Drama CD/Light Novel audiobook tracker or something along those lines?

[Anonymous No.]

https://vocaroo.com/i/s0Dl6jcipFI4
Please help with this clip, I've listened (to the whole thing) 200-300 times already. Um, the first bit is an い-adjective or conjugated verb. Can't pick one except "fashionable" which doesn't make sense.

The second bit sounds like おまえませんたけためるです.

I know my ears are 9000 hours of anime away from understanding this, but I'm wondering what it is.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20807593

キモイです

お前もさっさと食べるです.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20807612
すみません

[Anonymous No.]

watch that fuckin peppa pigg

[Anonymous No.]

はい

さっさ promptly; immediately; quickly

[Anonymous No.]

pepper pig is such a good show

[Anonymous No.]

Anyone browses /g/? fuck that /g/ay board, seriously you never get proper answer from those cunts.
You might think /djt/ is bad but it's not true since you always get help if needed

[Anonymous No.]

>>20807728
/g/ is not your tech support, go install gentoo

[Anonymous No.]

i sometimes like to visit 2chan, copy some random post and just post it here and pretend i know japanese

[Anonymous No.]

>>20807795
imagine installing open source software on proprietary hardware with known backdoors thats been used by authorities before

you retards will never know

[Anonymous No.]

>>20807800
just use google translate, it will make you look better at the language than 90% of the people here

[None !MattVsJpEs No.]

>>20807809
And don't forget to use a tripcode so people remember who you are.

[Anonymous No.]

i trusted u guys with my trip and u fuckin broke it

dont think i havent forgotten

[Anonymous No.]

Fuck the fact that katakana are so different from hiragana, it's like having to learn them all over again and before you even get to kanji.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20807888
atleast the two ka's look similar

[Anonymous No.]

>>20807888
skip katakana. it's not used very much

[Anonymous No.]

>>20807888

you dont have to learn katakana lol. you can just pick it up from context

[Anonymous No.]

>>20807888
>that point when you think the kana is hard <---- you are here
>that point when you think the grammar is hard
>that point when you think the kanji is hard
>that point when you finally realize that the 20k+ vocab is the hard part

[Anonymous No.]

skip katakana they said

[Anonymous No.]

>>20807917
>>20807921
just skip learning kanji, you can just read the furigana and pick it up from context

[Anonymous No.]

>>20807923
only anglosphere faggots struggle with grammar

[Anonymous No.]

>>20807929

also true

[Anonymous No.]

>>20807933
because everyone else regardless of how different their native language is from Japanese has zero problems with grammar, just so long as that native language isn't English

[Anonymous No.]

>>20807923

>that point when you finally realise it's not actually hard you just have another scheduled 7000 hours of anime watching to do

[Anonymous No.]

>>20807942
correct

[Anonymous No.]

tfw u realize grammar isnt real and there are only individual words that you need to max out the xp bar on

[Anonymous No.]

>>20807954

は isn't a word though

[Anonymous No.]

>>20807960
it's literally classified as 単語 get fucked retard

[Anonymous No.]

>>20807964

according to whom

[Anonymous No.]

>>20807969
japanese people

[Anonymous No.]

>>20807971
their opinion is irrelevant

[Anonymous No.]

>>20807971

well even if it's a word there's still a clear distinction between that and other words & how they can be used, and that's grammar whether you like it or not

[Anonymous No.]

Don't try to get so technical and philosophical about something as simple as は you guys. In the end you're ugly gaijin who smell slightly of expired milk.

https://jisho.org/word/は
Technically I think each particle is a word.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20807995
i hope your future wife gets bred by black men in front of you

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>>20808012

so does he

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I don't know what to do bros... I finished Genki 1.
I don't know if this is the right way to learn at this point. Help me please?
If I were to go back and read a grammar guide, then read Japanese material and mine anki, would that be faster?
I still don't know what to do about Kanji. Everyone tells me different things. Is it radicals, vocabulary, mnemonics? I thing Genki's way of teaching kanji is very bad, but I haven't tried anything else...

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https://youtu.be/rFbt_3qAmBY

Is he right, DJT?

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>>20808024
Start over with duolingo or your japanese will become crippled forever

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>>20808030
nope and his language learning products are garbo

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>>20808024
what part of 10k hours of subbed anime dont you understand

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>>20807933
If you can't produce grammatically natural sentences, your grammar is shit. And your comprehension is worse than you realize, too.
わたしはゲイです doesn't count.

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what about
我輩は異性愛者（ゲイ）であります。

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わたしはゲイ
わたしがゲイ
わたし、ゲイ

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when did you realize japanese is just a guessing game?

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its only a guessing game if ur a gaijin who dont understand natural flow and context

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>>20808030

it's probably reasonable to say that japanese is the hardest language to read but the whole thing about "you have to just feel the japanese because there are so many little nuances you cant learn" is bullshit. there's nothing special about japanese when it comes to fuckin around with the language off the cuff, and it's just as hard to learn small nuances in any language

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japanese is just a big gamble
>>20808066
dubs confirm

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>>20808051
homosex

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>>20808051
gotta love that lack of comprehension https://streamable.com/qemt9

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>苦にならない
Are japanese racist?

[Anonymous No.]

Is the second kanji supposed to be 来? If not then what?

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>>20808130
yes
>>20808128
thats read く

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>>20808130
出来てます

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>>20808030
あんまりにほんご

も

うまくなさそう

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>>20808024
Realize that every way will get you there. It might take a bit more time if it's not the most efficient one, but the important thing is that you interact with the language daily. More importantly, don't burn yourself out doing something that you don't like.
So do what seems to make the most sense for you.

Do you want to jump into the unknown? Start reading something and memorize kanji on the go.
Do you prefer a more organized textbook approach? Do Genki 2 and maybe RTK or something similar.

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the most and i mean the most important thing is closing this thread forever and forgetting u were ever here

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今日は3時間がよんだ
私の頭が痛いだ

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>>20807924
is that from sea tree?

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>>20808188
>痛いだ

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>>20808188
>時間がよんだ

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>>20808188

you're crippling your japanese outputting this garbage that no-one is gonna bother to fix

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You don't know japanese if you can't tell all words in the first column without looking at the answers.

http://www2.aasa.ac.jp/people/smiyata/CHILDESmanual/datafiles/wakachi2002v5/list_baby.html

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あたしは黒人が怖いですね

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なぜだろうか

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>>20808196
please dont post disgusting creatures on djt while I am eating kudasai

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If this has never happened to you you don't know japanese.

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>>20808192
idk what that is

>>20808229
>eating in the toilet

soup maatt

[Anonymous No.]

The cheapest way to increase your perceived beauty is to lose weight.

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>>20808213

[Anonymous No.]

>the point when you finally realise not even japs know the difference between -wa and -ga