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2080035 No.2080035 [Reply] [Original]

So Yuyuko's hair apparently lightened up a good deal in comparison to when she was alive.

Mokou's hair was dark before she drank the Hourai Elixir.

Eirin is a Lunarian.

Keine is a were-hakutaku.

Youmu is a half-phantom half-human.

So what happened with Sakuya's hair?

>> No.2080039

>>2080035
She's a
[ ] Belmont
[ ] Lunarian
[ ] ZUN doesn't really care, bring him another beer

>> No.2080043

Beer.

>> No.2080055

After she became Remilia's maid, she made her dye it.

>> No.2080068

Albino

>> No.2080076

Extreme Makeover

>> No.2080078

>>2080068
She has blue eyes.

>> No.2080083

FREE INTERPRETATION TIME!

I just like to think that messing with time caused her hair to go like that. I don't have much of a basis though, unfortunately, other than it seems relatively reasonable. But I also like to think that Sakuya's been around for quite some time. Once the mansion got plopped into Gensokyo, her powers got stronger, simply because of the magical nature of Gensokyo. This allowed her to keep herself looking young, while still being mortal.

>> No.2080119

Eirin from the past thread over.

>> No.2080136

because she's actually old? like side effect of manipulating time.

>> No.2080171
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>>2080083
You're not alone in that. That seems to be one of the more common ideas.

I always imagined that Remilia beat Sakuya down so badly the first time they met, that Remilia took Sakuya to Patchouli to fix her up. Patchouli used the only piece of the Philosopher's stone in Gensokyo to create the sought after Elixir of Life. She forced Sakuya to drink it. However, unlike the Hourai Elixir, which immortalized the soul, the Elixir of Life immortalized the physical body only. The hair turned white as a side effect.

>> No.2080184

>>2080171
Damn, now I have an urge to see some really beaten up Sakuya.

>> No.2080194

>>2080171
That makes no sense. Hair is apart of the body, and if after drinking the Elixir of Life immortalizes your body in the state it was in at the time you drank it, her hair would already have to be white before she drank it.

>> No.2080208

>>2080194
>Elixir of Life immortalizes your body in the state it was in at the time you drank it,
It depends on how you interpret that. Maybe he means that the body simply won't die from most wounds or illnesses. Maybe it would just make Sakuya age infinitely. of course, that's no the case, seeing that she looks pretty young, but just tossing out examples.

>>2080171
Is vague as shit, but it's still an interesting concept nonetheless. I suppose you could half-ass an excuse, saying that the hair isn't as attached to the body or whatever, so it doesn't receive the full benefits of the elixir, but that just seems like a cop out.

>> No.2080217
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>>2080184

>> No.2080226

>>2080171
Wait a minute. Reading this again,
>The hair turned white as a side effect.
So it's just one of the side-effects of drinking the Elixir? Now THAT'S a cop-out. Come on, now. I'm sure you could think of a better explanation while still maintaining some of your original ideas.

>> No.2080239

>>2080226
>>2080194
I am sorry, I will work harder next time.

>> No.2080240

>>2080208
I'm using the same interpretation from Mnemosyne, which makes perfect sense.

>> No.2080245

>>2080217
Bla bla old doujin, but not beaten up enough. I want bruised, bleeding, weeping, with clothes half-ripped, borderline-of-guro Sakuya laying on the floor.
(cummed on is optional)

>> No.2080255

>>2080245

Go to
>>2079784
If you wish to take a shit on Sakuya.

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>>2080245
>Bla bla old doujin
B--... bb... but... I... I only just learned of it yesterday!

I... IM NEW AT TOUHOU IM SO SORRRYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY

>> No.2080259

>>2080240
What is it?

>> No.2080276

>>2080259
That the body is immortalized in the state in which immortalization occurred.

>> No.2080272

>>2080240
Can you elaborate? I'm embarrassingly ill-versed in mythology, but I'm still interested.

>> No.2080288

>>2080276
Oh. Well, yeah, in that case, >>2080171 makes no sense.

>> No.2080306

>>2080083
I take this simple route too. She's using her abilities to keep herself looking young, but her hair just changed color over time because MAGIC.

>> No.2080317

>>2080171
I think it would have just been easier to just say while Patchouli was patching (Dohoho) up Sakuya, magic happened, magic fucked up, and Sakuya received a few white hairs.

>> No.2080334

>>2080317
And this implies that Patchy isn't the flawless magician that she is? I think not. How about she was just, I don't know, born with white hair? This actually does happen in non-albinos, but is extremely rare.

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>>2080035
I always just figured it resulted from her first time meeting Flandre.

>> No.2080349

>>2080337
Also makes no sense. If Sakuya really was a vampire hunter before becoming a maid, there's no reason to believe that she'd be so scared to Flandre to make all her hair turn white.

>> No.2080353

>>2080334
>And this implies that Patchy isn't the flawless magician that she is?
>especially good at Elemental Magic
I was always under the impression that she didn't specialize much in healing people, but that's just me, I think.

>> No.2080355

>>2080334
I do recall of one particular shrine maiden straight from Earth who was born with green hair. Gee I wonder where she got those hair color from?

>> No.2080369

>>2080353
If Patchy spends most of her time reading, chances are she came across some healing magic.

>> No.2080378

>>2080349
I do not believe she was really a vampire hunter.

>vampire hunter
>youkai supporter

It was also a theory from Akyu. I always take her stuff as being relatively accurate, but for more "mysterious" characters, like the Lunarians and Sakuya, she could be completely wrong, as her statements are from the point of view of another human in the human village.

>> No.2080387

>>2080369
It's likely, but I don't think she'd be as enthusiastic nor prolific when it comes to healing people. I mean, hell, she has asthma.

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>>2080349
1. Who say's Sakuya was a vampire hunter? That's just one of many theories.

2. It's fucking Flandre, even Duke Nukem would probably pee his pants a little.


That, plus as far as I'm concerned, Sakuya is just a normal girl with an extraordinary power, who's no older than she looks, and was raised by the Scarlet household.

>> No.2080405

>>2080355
No the guy you're quoting, but holy shit, I forgot about her. In the end, it's most likely ZUN just being ZUN, but speculating is still fun, and pretty interesting, even with all the disagreements about character perceptions.

>> No.2080417

>>2080400
I don't see Flandre as being a crazed nut like most doujins make her out to be.

>> No.2080422

>>2080387
I don't think that's a good excuse, that she has asthma, especially if she's had it since birth. That's completely different from healing simple cuts or bruises, however severe, since it's just rehealing tissue, and not necessarily genetically influenced. How else do you think she got so good at elemental magic? She learned it out of books and practiced it on her own. Why wouldn't she be at least a little bit interested in healing magic? It would be handy, after all, if she cut herself by accident or something.

>> No.2080424

There have been several clues spread across the Touhou series that suggest that Sakuya may not actually be human. Most of these occur in Imperishable Night, where Eirin Yagokoro is surprised to see her (according to ZUN). In another scene, she survives staring at the full moon (which should drive humans insane, even though Marisa, Youmu and Reimu survive staring at it as well...). She has silver hair just like Eirin, and uses silver knives, both the color and metal silver representing the moon in many contexts. In Perfect Memento, Hieda no Akyu agrees that Sakuya probably does not come from Gensokyo, and the description of Kaguya Houraisan's powers are quite similar to Sakuya's time manipulation. These all seem to point to the possibility that Sakuya may in fact be Lunarian. (Some doujin artists have attempted to explain the relationship between Eirin and Sakuya in their stories. These range from the ideas that Eirin created Sakuya's Lunar Dial, but prolonged usage erased Sakuya's memory, to the two of them even being sisters.)

:)

>> No.2080441

How bout the idea that nothing happened and that it was the same color before, now, and forever?

>> No.2080452

>>2080422
Dunno, bro. I always saw her as a hardcore elemental magician with heavy emphasis on conjuration and offensive stuff. Just seems to me like it fits her taciturn personality better. She may learn healing for the sake of pursuing knowledge, but the elements separate from the flesh is where I see her thriving.


Nevertheless, it's still pretty neat that we've got different ideas about Patchouli. It never really crossed my mind that she'd do much, if any healing magic at all, and I never really considered her as being a perfect magician.

>> No.2080468

>>2080441
Honestly the most likely scenario, but where's the fun in that?

>> No.2080497

>>2080378
>she could be completely wrong, as her statements are from the point of view of another human in the human village.
But a lot of her information was fed to her from youkai.

...wait, that probably actually makes it less accurate.

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2081812

Sakuya's eyes turning blue instead of red are an obscure reference to relativistic doppler effect. Within the SDM, where Sakuya is messing around with time and space, her eyes appear redshifted since her powers are observed from the outside (since she is extending both time and space, she appears to be constantly travelling away). In later games her powers are viewed from within her sphere of influence, where time and space appear contracted to an observer, and thus her eyes are blueshifted instead.
Flan also has a reference to this phenomenon (Starbow Break).

... no, actually I just made that up. I'm probably even wrong about how doppler effect works. There is no real reason for the colour change, it's just an inconsistency.

>> No.2081816

Why is Sanae's hair green

>> No.2081817

>>2081812
>I'm probably even wrong about how doppler effect works
You are

>> No.2081826

>>2081816
Descended from a Goddess

>> No.2081827
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>>2081816
Green hair for cool touhoes only.

>> No.2081831

ZUN just thought it would be nice to draw a silver haired meido..

>> No.2081837

>>2081831
And after ZUN made the game with the silver hair maid, people made theories.
In fact many theories.
And so ZUN became an alcoholic..

>> No.2081841

>Touhou
>Canon
...

>> No.2081853

>>2081837
He was an alcoholic in the first place.

Actually, that's kind of the final answer to all Touhou questions.

>> No.2081863

Sakuya is indeed a Lunarian. SOUND HOLIC agreed, don't bother them about it.

>> No.2081872

Who the fuck cares about the color of hair?
It's a fucking video game!

>> No.2081882

>>2081872
Not just a video game, anonymous.

>> No.2081892

>>2081882
Then what more?

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Sakuya goes on to master time travel and becomes Eirin.

We've been over this, bros.

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