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Previous thread: >>20604126

This thread is for the discussion of untranslated Japanese visual novels.

What are you playing? What are you looking forward to? What have you finished? You know the drill.

>> No.20681130

any vn about communism?

>> No.20681241

just go to the country itself m8

>> No.20681592

this girl is EXTREMELY smug
what's she from

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>> No.20681970
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>> No.20682558

Is that vn any good? Was thinking about reading it soon.

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>> No.20683083

Where do I begin with the Da Capo series?

>> No.20683137

Is Light/Campus the only Japanese company that makes 4k VNs?

>> No.20683159

Rance IX is about 1917 Bolshevik revolution. Even the bad guy is named Romanov.

>> No.20683174
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Ripple isn't half bad. Right when I started it wasn't bad, and now, after 3 routes, it still isn't. It's actually kinda good, if you keep the "it's old" thing in mind. Saving only at specific points. No backlog. No voice-replay. Only a generic skip function that skips everything. Small as fuck text. But the voice-acting isn't ear-cancer at least. That's always kinda hit and miss once you get to the early 2000s. Would've been nice though, if Giga polished the engine a bit for the Royal Sweet box. But alas, they didn't. Or it was even worse before, I don't really know.

Other than that, the game is actually fun. The strength is definitely not the serious parts. Those generally seem to come fast and go fast though, so it's fine. The length is rather short, even for having 8 routes, but I think it mostly just feels like this, because nowadays everything is padded so much. Having only 10 (kinda short) ero scenes for 8 routes also means a lot less ahn~ in the script of course. Best girl is probably pic related, an osaka girl. It's kinda fun hearing her dialect all the time. Will still read one more route though.

That said, I really need to look into a good debugger to get some text hooking started for these old games. It's readable, but it's not a nice experience after a while. My old version of cheat engine just crashes the game after it attaches, which may however also be something on Giga I guess? (as in detecting the debugger and just shutting down) Well, next time maybe.

>> No.20683191

>Only a generic skip function that skips everything.
This is the worst thing ever. I can take potato resolutions and zero voice acting, but when I'm forced to play a multiple route VN (especially one with complex common routes) and have to play a guessing game when skipping through content it drives me nuts.

>> No.20683211

Is this your first Maruto, as you don't compare it to his other games? I never bothered with it because of comments like
I got the image that he perfected the formula in Parfait and the previous ones are more or less just prototypes for it.

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Yeah, just because some 10% of single guys are assholes means that you want to lose the income from the other 90%. And apparently guys with girlfriends are incapable of being assholes. Fuck off.

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>> No.20683323

>Would've been nice though, if Giga polished the engine a bit for the Royal Sweet box.

Pls upload. Or anonymously upload and set it to Girlcelly to spread around.

>> No.20683355


Not him, but in that case it seems smarter to start with the oldest one (Ripple) and work your way upwards. You'll get more to enjoy that way. If you just play Parfait, it might be boring to go back.

It's like with Baldr Sky and Force. People always says play Force before Sky, cause the reverse might not be enjoyable.

>> No.20683419

It's shared on AS for a while already, just only ddl hosts. That said, it seems to not include the adult version of Chocolat, so I need to think what I'm going to do after Ripple. I generally don't care too much about the ero scenes, especially if it's like in Ripple, but I don't really want other content to be altered, like removal of references to these scenes or whatever. That stuff has a little more value, when there's not much to begin with. Makes it more special? Probably going to wait a while, to see if it still appears or not, and then maybe figure out if the old version still works for me. Then I can compare if I feel that all-ages is weird at places.

Yeah, I haven't played any of the café games or whatever. Figured the new box release is a good way to start. First Maruto isn't entirely correct though, because I've seen one season of Saekano. First VN though.

>> No.20683427 [DELETED] 

>It's shared on AS for a while already, just only ddl hosts.

It is? Throw me a link?

>> No.20683428

I already played Parfait.
>You'll get more to enjoy that way.
I disagree, impact of the best version could be diminished if you already experienced parts of it beforehand.
>If you just play Parfait, it might be boring to go back.
Well it could be boring just starting in the beginning without having played it beforehand too. It sits in the 60 range on EGS so most people didn't like it all that much. Would be a shame if someone dropped it there and never bothered to check out the much improved version. Not to mention going back can be fun in its own way after you gained familiarity with an author, seeing their roots and how they evolved from that.

Force/Sky comparison doesn't work because Force is a very different experience from Sky and is a 90 score EGS game on its own merit. People mostly say that because of gameplay QoL improvements.

>> No.20683454

Did you get mad at the new Gillette commercial too?

>> No.20683458

>That said, it seems to not include the adult version of Chocolat

Legit, only chocolat though right? Parfait will probably be the only cafe one I read anyway though, since apparently the ones before it seem to just be prototypes of it.

>> No.20683459


I find it really hard to imagine that people sit down and read long VNs on their freaking phone. But apparently there's a market for that. Here's hoping it comes to PC quicker than two years this time around.

>> No.20683464

>It's shared on AS for a while already, just only ddl hosts.

Thanks for heads up.

>> No.20683550

Yeah. Parfait has both, unlike Chocolat. The rest is just the adult version anyway, as there was never a pc all-ages one. Some of the OST stuff may be missing, but I can't say. It definitely feels weird to have a "soundtrack 2" alone for one game. Shouldn't there be a soundtrack 1 as well? Who knows. Maybe only the stuff that's not yet shared or had changes was shared. Ripple for example is v1.03, which is one version higher than the latest version was before.

I think it depends. Ripple is fun. That's it. I don't think it really destroys a lot. It's simply short, not special and whatever "plot" it has is also extremely fast and not particularly interesting. On the flipside you get a great osaka girl among some other quite likable heroines, and a bunch of lame ones. It's nice for what it is. With the plot also being fast, it doesn't really matter that it's kinda not good if it'd be a lot slower. Makes me think, to this date VNs still copy the likes of Ripple, just with the terrible pacing they have, while failing to realize it's only working fast. For example, it really sucks if you go through 2 hours of separation drama, just to get an epilogue of "it's all fine after all, tehehe~". It's very different, if it's basically just a few minutes of that. Because you never really think it's going to be too bad anyway, as it's just so quick. With modern VNs, you only think it's not going to be so bad, because the games tend to suck and have no balls to really go through with it. Exceptions exist (and moege fans tend to hate those).

>> No.20683560

>Ripple for example is v1.03, which is one version higher than the latest version was before.

It's my fetish to collect the most updated available versions of games.

>> No.20683954

Any chance you can upload Ripple? Those garbage DL sites on AS don't work for me and Ripple is pretty small anyway

>> No.20683967

Mexashare is good. Chinks offer links per disc, so you you can just grab Ripple.

>> No.20684258
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Could someone seed one of these real quick? thanks.

>> No.20684411

sent bro

>> No.20684503

is Monobeno actually as good as people say it is, in terms of story, rather than it just being a high quality nukige?

>> No.20684533

It's not a nukige. It's also not notable as a scenarioge. You read it for the lolis and chill inaka atmosphere.

>> No.20684560

charage then?

>> No.20684565

It's a Losege.

>> No.20684579

stop using meme terms.

>> No.20684593

You don't have to put stupid nonsense labels on everything anon. It's an eroge. The niche and selling point of the company named Lose is lolis. That is all you need to know.

>> No.20684624

i guess you're right
ultimately though, is it as good as people say?

>> No.20684630

It's garbage

>> No.20684652

If you like folklore and want to chill with loli's yeah. It's really long though, even without all of the ero so be careful

>> No.20684682

I enjoyed monobeno for the childhood friend and setting, the lolis were too close to toddlercon and too annoying for me.

>> No.20684692

If you played monobeno you want to fuck the kids, don't try and paint it as anything else

>> No.20684705

Alice was the worst heroine/route though.

>> No.20684710

I liked the Arisu as well in her loli form

>> No.20684825

route order for monobeno, or does it not matter?

>> No.20684859

Natsuha's route is locked so just do Sumi or Alice first.

>> No.20685067

Giga games use AlphaROM which is protected with Themida last time I checked. Unless you're talking about the old version that is.

>> No.20685149

Yeah, so I basically would need a "debugger" that can work around these, if that exists. Or something. Probably too much of a hassle for me to do, but if I ever get interested in more 640*480 (or heck, even lower) games with small fonts, I may look into it. Maybe some of those just work with my old cheatengine version though.

>> No.20685204

Show me some Winge.

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They're all Winge nowadays

>> No.20685725

You need to get past the anti-attach, no idea how it's implemented, maybe there's a watchdog thread running thay you need to neutralize. Or you can dump an exe, restore imports and all that shit.

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Asking here is probably my best bet. Anyone know the game on the picture? The girl looks cute.
Reverse google search just brings up meme sites.

>> No.20687222

You'll not be able to read it anyway, EOP.

>> No.20687290

yandex reverse image search with just that part of the pic got me this: http://konachan.net/post/show/183498

>> No.20688696

is there a difference between the reorder and standard editions of parfait and chocola?

>> No.20689172

It's not extracting for me, I think my download is corrupted

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>> No.20689429

That's ufortunate. They also offer different hosts. Personally I never had a problem with Mexa.

>> No.20689958

Standard is the most complete one. However it's a console port.
Re-order are the most complete adult releases. They generally lack what was added to the later console version(s).

Vndb says, that the console additions for these are written by someone else though, so it's probably okay to just not care about them. The characters do however appear in the fandisc, where the writer of the additional characters of the two games didn't work at. It's an awkward situation. At least the two new girls from Chocolat look very uninteresting anyway. Parfait is a little different.

I'm probably just trying standard for chocolat, because I have it now, and do re-order for Parfait first, and then maybe check standard. The advantage for chocolat standard may also be, that it was released 2007. Just a short check of the game showed me the typical giga engine. Re-Order is from 2004. If that still has the Ripple engine, it'd be horrible...

>> No.20690102

>Re-Order is from 2004. If that still has the Ripple engine, it'd be horrible...

It does not.

>> No.20690112

Is the resolution higher now?

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>> No.20690206

I'll backup both versions on my sweet 4TB HDD.

>> No.20690209

Okay, I just checked how the two café games work. If
is right, then it's like this:

Chocolat: Basically all the standard version should add over re-order is 2 short stories that you only unlock more or less at the very end. On of them includes the blonde twintail from Parfait. This means you either play standard and have everything but lewds, or you get re-order and then skip through the necessary stuff in standard afterwards if you care about the short stories. It may actually be a better idea to read Parfait first before you do the shortstories though, based on release dates. Dunno though.

Parfait: 2 new routes for standard version, however they should be accessible from the beginning. The walkthrough on saiga for the console version (which is basically standard on PC) seems like it's just copy and paste from re-order with the two new routes added to the bottom. So you can play re-order and then check the new routes in standard, if you want to.

There obviously may be new/different CG for the routes in the standard versions, but that's where you gotta choose. Porn or other CG? The choice is yours. It's unfortunate, that there's not just an ultimate version or whatever, but what can you do.

Everything past Ripple is 800*600, so it's a little better. Check vndb for screens.

>> No.20690250

It's really not that complicated. Get the Re-order PC version and forget anything else exists. The console versions only have some bad superfluous extra content not written by Maruto.

>> No.20690265

Torrent for the Royal Sweet collection when?

>> No.20690296

this anon >>20690250 and i were discussing it in PMs and we decided that you should make it

>> No.20690298

I dunno what are these DJT EOPs getting so worked over. All the info is readily available.

>> No.20690372

Why didn't Tailon include the Re-Order version of Chocolat?

>> No.20690407

Maybe he wants you to play standard? You can still get re-order at AS though.

>> No.20690438

Not the version from Royal Sweet Collection though.

>> No.20691710

Ask him on Freenet.

>> No.20692215


What the fuck I read...
Parasol... Is that really you?
I waited two years for that?!
Sakukoi seems a lot better...

What the f...

>> No.20692267

I hate this artist.

>> No.20692470

What Mikeou did that you hate her? Or him... I am okay with that art. But not okay with story.

>> No.20692485

The sameface.

>> No.20693784

I played sakukoi recently, the common route was alright, nothing special but it was fun. Then when it branched, holy shit. It was the most forced, dry and awkward romance I ever read, instead of having some sort of development into love the heroines just became retarded instantly. You can see their mouths watering over the mcs dick all of a sudden and stuttering all the fucking time. It felt like a low quality anime tier of romance and character development.
I was about to uninstall but then I read about a patch that adds a route for the loli so I guess I'll try that out.

>> No.20694258

Can someone upload 恋と恋するユートピア ボーカルコレクション ?

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>> No.20696246

Why is there a ladder there? Is that the bed space?

>> No.20696258

It's a loft. Really common in Japanese apartments.

>> No.20696259

Do you think Sakuranbo will survive the 2020 Tokyo olympics?

>> No.20696282

Is it for the futon?

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>> No.20696374

It's for whatever you want. Some people sleep up there, some just use it as a storage space.

>> No.20696472

Sure. Comiket is already full of baka gaijin and they're fine.

>> No.20696723

that girl looks like the kabaneri girl

>> No.20696738
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How do I fix this problem for Baldr Sky 1? Or is this why there's a windows 10 edition?
Launching the game from disc.

>> No.20696756

Use a crack? And there are two re-releases, yeah.

>> No.20696778

Mumei (12)?

>> No.20696841

Originally I tried to find one but couldn't, though just now I looked for dive 2 crack instead, tested it and it worked.

>> No.20696963

It's because nobody plays dive 1 nowadays. You play the entire thing through dive 2.

>> No.20697302

Somehow I think foreigners who go to Comiket are a bit different from the foreigners who'd come for the Olympics.

>> No.20697488
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Only just started reading ひとつ飛ばし恋愛 but it has been pretty great so far the sisters seem amusing and Risa is hilarious. Shaping up to be a great time.

>> No.20697532

The common route + first half of Risas route is some of the most genuine fun I've had with a VN, enjoy.

>> No.20697866

Risa's route might be the funniest thing I've read in Japanese.

>> No.20697988

I might pick this up. Moodmaker characters never disappoint me

>> No.20698294

I'm feeling rather odd because lately I read only stupid 2-10 hour moeges. What's the best novel you've ever read?

>> No.20698305

Way too obvious.

>> No.20698337

Finally completed my 2017 backlog and now i can play 2018 stuff. So what's good ones from 2018?

>> No.20698346

rance 10, nukitashi and amegure are the 3 biggest ones

>> No.20698415

Shittaste Anon here:

Shamrock was fucking shit. Stupid narrative that trips over itself and unsatisfying conclusion.

Next is Nemurenu

>> No.20698424

subahibi full voice, nukitashi, rance 10, Mojika

>> No.20698430

It was shit.

>> No.20698433

Blame the year.

>> No.20698453

This year is fucking shit

>> No.20698513

I'm working my way through the japanese sources now because I want to write academic pieces on eroge. But the english sources are dead and japanese sources are behind paywalls or many many years old.

What do.

>> No.20698563

Find something better to write about

>> No.20698683

it's worth playing just for being a shoegaze VN

>> No.20698689

I'm looking forward to quite a few things, although I'm probably one of the biggest shit eaters.

>> No.20698706

English sources are shit anyway.

>> No.20698709

Im trying to read the japanese wikipedia articles sources. Helpful but still slow.

>> No.20698733

What kind of sources do you want? Eroge history?

>> No.20698739

i remember there being a book about eroge history on amazon

>> No.20698742

Eroge History, Sales, How the original JAST began, Stuff about Elf. The english sources and articles are really lackluster and often not peer reviewed or just outright wrong.

>> No.20698772

I only know about eroge history from katan's blog posts(it's not academic source so you can't cite it but it's still good) and all other sources seems to be very lacking.

>> No.20698778

Thats fine too. I have to attain lots of knowledge first as it is a really sensitive topic. Care to like them?

>> No.20698794

Go to エロゲの歴史

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>as it is a really sensitive topic

>> No.20698812

They have been playing eroge since ancient days so there's that credibility

>> No.20698825


here's one for you nigger. btw what do you mean about English sources being dead?
t. dude who wrote an academic essay about vocaloids

>> No.20698836

>t. Azuma hiroki

>> No.20698844

Also, I'm curious to hear what you'd write about. If I were to write something, maybe I'd choose "Gender dynamics in Maggot Baits" as a topic, or something similar. I think it's exciting

>> No.20698901

Wait, i am not sure but isn't this the book that is being criticized by oldfags for having misinformation? The problem with niche media like eroge is that its history isn't properly recorded(especially 80s and 90s period) even by fans and writers just make shit up to fill missing pieces so be careful bro

>> No.20698902

Unreliable narration is a topic I am really interested in. In combination with Denpagames like Subahibi, SayoOshi or 101 Jisatsu no Houhou.

But also political dynamics in games like Muvluv or Baldr Sky wouldn't be that bad.

There are a million topics honestly, you just have to pack it up well. You could even look at dark games protagonists from a freudian perspective, lets say Natsu no Kusari, Nemurenu.

The concept of pure love in grotesque works is also an interesting topic, clockup has a lot of ideas on this.

And I could write a critical analysis of NTR, but I'm not a cuck.

>> No.20698904

>Gender dynamics in X
Template tier shit

>> No.20698921

Write about whether or not eroge should be considered a form of art. Then publish it for Western normalfags and watch the world burn.

>> No.20698933

Even a more critical question might be better. Can (some) eroge be considered literature?

>> No.20698957

>Can (some) eroge be considered literature?
That's a question purely intended to stir up shit. Who the fuck cares? It's all about defining/redefining terms in favor of whatever you want to justify. Fucking playing in the labyrinth of language and stroking the ego peen.

>> No.20698960

No one would care unless you were already famous for some other things (and then a small amount of people would care)

>> No.20698973

I want Lacanian perspective of NTRge

>> No.20698980

I want NTRgeian perspective of Lacan

>> No.20698988

Push your opinion that eroge is as great as timeless classics of humanity, if not better. Make direct comparisons. Compare Masada, Nasu, Yoidore against Shin-Leqi-Unninni, Homer and Dante; Ittetsu, SCA-DI and Romeo against Dostoevsky and Tolstoy; Fumiaki against Shakespeare. Make /lit/ mad.

>> No.20698990

Shut up underage retard.

>> No.20699016

You'd be better off mastering the topic you want to write about, like narratology, or structures of power or Freud or whatever and then applying it to eroge as an aside, rather than diving into the history of eroge for info that you'll never mention in the papers

>> No.20699021

You are probably right.

>> No.20699033

What do you guys think about George Henry Shaft?

>> No.20699082

"animesque" is a fucking annoying word

>> No.20699254
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What is wrong with her? Haha.

>> No.20699287

She's in a shit vn.

>> No.20699305

tell that to /vn/

>> No.20700826

If you expect good H from it, skim a couple pages of the CG set first. The art quality isn't good even by lolige standards.
I also thought the introduction was boring as sin, which is all I read of it personally.
I'd absolutely recommend downloading the trial before committing yourself to torrenting all fifteen bleeding gigs of it.
If you do give it a shot, make sure you get ものべの -happy end-, it's has all of the content of regular monobeno plus more stuff.

>> No.20701048

I only like mature lolis.

>> No.20701049

He correctly identified GTA 5 as having no gameplay long before it became obvious to common idiots.

>> No.20701344

parallelogram, charabration and summer pockets are the 3 biggest ones

>> No.20702469

But anon, all of those are trash.

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>> No.20702513

But it's still a kamige to steamroll all other kamige

>> No.20702519

I only like bratty lolis

>> No.20702525

Imagine kissing your waifu without knowing that she stuffed dozens of dicks behind your back that day

>> No.20702559

What if my loli loses interest in me?

>> No.20702572

Anyone got any ahodere recs?

>> No.20702728

I only like well-balanced lolis

>> No.20702730
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Mugyu is better

>> No.20702783

I swear like 30 games are set to go on sale in February. That's gonna be a fun mess to watch.

>> No.20702956
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>all ages

>> No.20703237

It was a mistake.

>> No.20703268

Lmao this general is always dead

>> No.20703288

What's this vn

>> No.20703331

Generic moege #65743289

>> No.20703336

Ya'll hyped for the new Purple Software?

>> No.20703427

Looks horrible

>> No.20703428

Those tits look stupid.

>> No.20703434

All of the designs suck

>> No.20703444

I used to like Purple's character designs, but these ones are really bad. And with Nakahiro writing it, that's a solid nope from me.

>> No.20703450

I like Koku's designs but other artist is terrible.

>> No.20703479

The tutorial for Venus Blood Empire is so huge wtf. It's going to take forever to take in this large load
Koku is meganut so yes

>> No.20703511

Anyone looking forward to the game tomorrow that features the one and only リリ・リル・リーリ・リンダ・リッテル・ローリア・リンドリア・ブリットア二ア (LiLi Lil Lilli Linda Litter Lauria Lindria Bullitnia)?

>> No.20703561

>ogura yui

>> No.20704794

Romeo is on the same writing level as Nabokov, sweetie.

>> No.20704906

Don't insult Romeo.

>> No.20704936

dude Romeo is a Shakespeare character and he says some dasai stuff (but he's pretty badass with a gun in Romeo + Juliet)

>> No.20705113

At least Aoitori's character designs and aesthetic were good enough to fool me into trying it. This has nothing. Even the OP is inferior to Purple Software's other OPs.

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I feel bad at myself for laughing at this

>> No.20706651

New Navel game's OP https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5NmsqLj2kYM

>> No.20706711

this song sucks

>> No.20706834

Shuffle's 15 anniversary and it has absolutely nothing to do with Shuffle. They didn't even use the same scenario writer or character designer. And the protagonist is a trap. Perfect recipe for disaster.

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>They didn't even use the same scenario writer

>> No.20706942

I don't get it

>> No.20707028

I had no idea he died, that is sad

>> No.20707189
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Can't wait.

>> No.20707925

Doesn't it take place in the same setting? And it looks like it includes a copy of Shuffle with the game.

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>> No.20708178
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I finally get to see Tsumugi Wenders's H-scenes.

>> No.20709266

Sorry if this is not the right place to ask, but does anyone here have a working torrent for Clannad or all of Key's works for that matter?

>> No.20709272

Try looking on the internet.

>> No.20709283

NeitherNyaa, Sukebei or TT seem to have it, atleast not their older works from the last decade.

>> No.20709329

read them in english

>> No.20709513

started reading phantom integration and it's pretty comfy. couldn't find any info on recommended route order except some chink posting that he went in the order of the guide I was looking at, so if any of you got any tips then hit me with them

>> No.20709607

How long is the average eroge nowdays? vndb usually says 20 hours on most of them, is that with one playthrough including the common route, or is it the common route + all routes?

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>> No.20709788

EGS 20 is pretty average, which can be anything between 1 and 2 mb sjis. So yeah, ~1.5mb, ~20hours for everything. All-ages would be more hours, because no ahn~ to skim/skip. The average eroge has like 400kb ahn~ text nowadays. (40hcg, 10kb/cg.. though that starts to be on the "low" end rather than medium I feel)

>> No.20710166

Oh, how you count the size of text? Just copypaste with ITHVNR?.. Because I remember, that I did that for Kuremono by Libido Soft, and got ~1.5Mb, but in UTF-8

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>> No.20711134
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>> No.20711602

Make sure to get Cal's bad end in chapter 2.

>> No.20711645

seems to be the same as the guide I was following. thanks!

this game is making me realize the beauty of guns. 草

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Do I need to read Grisaia to read phantom trigger? The anime PV reminded me it exists and I need my dose of cute girls with guns.

>> No.20713473

you don't need to read phantom trigger

>> No.20714506


>> No.20714764

Sorceress Alive and Sono Hi no Kemono ni ha need cracks!!!!

>> No.20714886

Very surprising.

>> No.20715082

Is save data from a vn trial compatible with the full release, or would i end up having to start over again?

>> No.20715107

Kimihane waiting room

>> No.20715142

Sometimes, but not often. Usually the company mentions whether or not that's the case on their website somewhere, so just look there.

>> No.20715422

Trying to play a game from the Giga Sweets Collection and it's telling me to put in a disc. Do these need a crack or something?

>> No.20715468
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This background disturbs me so much.
Like it's that hard to have an uniform artstyle in a background?

>> No.20715508

Hard? No. Just expensive. Every background with variations that actually looks good costs like 1k bucks. No, not yen bucks. When you realize, that you have to sell like 20 copies for just one background, it gets pretty awkward.

>> No.20715513


>> No.20715568

Yes, sweetie, they need the same crack every Giga game does. Also every Light game (except Ikabey for some reason, the chinks had to make a specific crack for that).

>> No.20716048

I want to play Umineko in Japanese, but with the PS3 sprites and voiced on PC.
Any way to do this? Just emulating the PS3 version does not work, it's really broken. Using the regular patch also is not possible without also patching in the English translation.
Anyone know if it's possible to maybe patch the steam release and play it in English patched?

>> No.20716121

First I would reexamine the basic premise. Is it a good idea to want to play Umineko?

>> No.20716171

Let's be real, people play much shittier games here.

>> No.20716249

At least the average moege isn't 50+ hours long so it's still ultimately less shitty.

>> No.20716279

Umineko is still worth trying, even if it is polarizing.

>> No.20716285

It really isn't.

>> No.20716306


>> No.20716413
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After Ripple, now Chocola(t).

They tried to improve the calendar system of Ripple. They failed. Instead of choosing actions for 3-4 days each time for 6 weeks, you have now more time and have to separately choose each action. Most of the time even two per day. Too much.
The game's structure also suffers. In Ripple, you can just "stalk" who you want the route of. Not so much in Chocola. A character may need an event for them, even though the event is only marked with completely different characters. This makes the entire thing really awkward. Standard edition at least removes the calendar choice system from the last month. It's kinda coming with a price though, that you may not want to pay. (it at least enforces in which order you play the endings of a given route/character and perhaps even a little more)

Other than that, the game starts mostly fun. Basically Ripple v2. A little more fleshed out, but the weaknesses still remain the same. (i.e. somewhat disconnected scenes, relationships between heroines being lackluster, even though they aren't supposed to be..)
The big issue here are the two new heroines. No matter if you play standard or re-order, they are there, with all their terribleness. You already see that something is wrong, when each of them gets a fanservice scene early on. (hands->tits or head->tits) The other girls may have something as well, but none of that involved touching or generally dumb scenarios to force them. A lot of the scenes focusing on these two characters are just bad, especially in comparison to the other stuff. Well, different writer. Still, feels like they didn't even try to keep the general idea of the original.

As for the routes... I'm frankly very disappointed. Standard forces "normal endings" first, which is very hit or miss. But given that the second endings sucked so far, I'm not sure if I should be happy or sad about it.
The second endings/routes are just not making any sense so far. The drama lacks any real root/base which you can believe. For example: The protagonist suddenly gets the message, that his dad remarried and the daughter of the new wife starts to live with him. He's becoming a brother. Obviously gets messed with by friends because of this and whatnot. And yet you get serious "incest drama" where the protagonist feels really bad about liking a girl he met 2months ago, is not related with him, and likes him a lot as well. WHAT. THE. FUCK. I'm two routes in, and both routes have the exact same problem. The drama has no base to believe. It makes no sense to exist as it does. Feels like playing a shitty moege, that was just a lot less shitty than normal before the drama.
As for the first endings, Misato's was just nothing, basically her other route without the drama. Makes a LOT of sense, huh? Not. Suzu's was actually really good, if short and kinda rushed. It also made more sense than the other route she has and the drama works way better. Sad.
Ripple kinda had this problem in some routes as well, but it was just so short, it wasn't as bad if you ask me.

I hope the next routes/endings will be better. I really do. Next is Midori, best girl, who also has another male love interest. Of sorts. I'm actually quite interested, what's done with that, especially given the two routes/branches each heroine has.

>> No.20716432

Don't worry, my live is worthless enough that I can waste it on whatever I want.

>> No.20716520

How can you waste anything, if you don't keep anything after dying?

>> No.20716552

You can waste the time you have available until you die.

>> No.20716651

Yeah, umineko is pretty good

>> No.20716994

Is this the chink tool for PlayDRM?
And how do you get the points you need to access it?

>> No.20717059

I believe you have to pay for it.

>> No.20717064

That's gay.

>> No.20717080

Find random shit (e.g. stuff on sadpanda, obscure games, etc.) and upload it to baidu and share it there according to their rules is the fastest way. You can also grind their browser game once a day but that shit's been on maintenance for a month so you can't make progress on that. There's other miscellaneous things like literally finding image sources for people.
Nah. You actually get banned if you try to outright purchase their site currency from other users. Though you can buy games and stuff and upload it there for fast currency gain.

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I love this vn and Risa.

>> No.20718344

The objectively best part of it were the backgrounds.
Then Risa and Tamamo.

>> No.20718750

>Midori, best girl
I see you are a man of taste.

>> No.20718767

There's no doubt she was best girl, I had issues with her VA but personality-wise she's the kind of girl Maruto loves making suffer.

>> No.20720084

Is the torrent out?

>> No.20720991

If someone wonders if Ripple was moved to the new engine in royal collection, then the answer is no.

I hate Giga.

>> No.20721138

Yes, I believe someone already said so above. The 18+ release of Chocolat wasn't either.

While we're at it, does someone have links for Baldr Force SE? All I could find were preEOP'd uploads. And the Giga brand pack torrent is sadly stuck at like 98% with no seeders.

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Looking to try reading untranslated with the help of a text hooker for the first time. How are Alcot Honeycomb's stuff as a starting point? I have
>Kimi no Tonari de Koi Shiteiru
>Soshite Hatsukoi ga Imouto ni Naru
on hand at the moment. I also have Kiniro Loveriche but that looks a little harder to read

>> No.20721160

I find it hard to imagine any meaningful differences in difficulty among those games.

>> No.20721239

Any personal accounts on their respective entertainment value then?

>> No.20721258
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Not the anon you're responding to, but I read Satsukoi as my 2nd vn and it was pretty great. Likable characters, nice winter theme, and actually has a story.

>> No.20721262

I'll have a look, thanks

>> No.20721308

Tonakoi was the 2nd vn I read and it was love triangle garbage. It was easy enough to read though.

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I'm done with her route by now, and actually quite enjoyed it. I just like stories and characters like this. Only problem is to care about Kanako after all of that. It was a quite satisfying ending.
Didn't have any issues with her voice though. Not too surprising though, given that best girl of ripple was voiced by the same voice-actor... which I didn't even recognize till I checked just now. Heh. Anyway, had no problems there either. That said, I'm playing the royal versions (for chocolat, the standard version), so I have no idea if anything changed, like for example the sound quality.

>> No.20721426

My only issue with it is that she used the same voice for crying and laughing, and I do mean the exact same tone, so it was hard to take her seriously.

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Finished Karen as my last Making*Lovers route. As expected, best route and best girl, definitely was a great way to end this VN experience.

I find that a big problem I have with moege is that they just lose momentum at some point in the heroine routes, usually after the first scene. But Karen's route was greatly helped by the absolutely amazing chemistry she had with the MC that managed to bring out the ichaicha and comedy well even during the less dramatic chapters. It feels less like the writers throwing ichaicha in your face for the sake of padding, it feels more "organic", as strange as that sounds when describing a moege relationship. Reina and Saki's routes did this too (the relatively short length helps), but Karen's did it best. It's routes like this that remind me of what I like in tsundere heroines, and how a straightforward moege route can actually be effective if the character writing hits the right spots.

>> No.20721663

Are there VNs that are mostly just about girls shitting around in a high school and that's it? Something like the comedy/character common route of a generic VN but all girls or something.

You'd think yuri VNs would do this but for some reason most yuri VNs that I've looked through seem to have a whole mysterious plot thing of some sort in there.

>> No.20721671

Comfy comedy common routes are the shit.

>> No.20721680

Yeah, I'm hyped for Kudan no Folklore.

>> No.20721684

If you are fine with trap protags then Otoboku is close, being an all girls school. Otherwise you're better off sticking to manga.

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>> No.20721722

>Otherwise you're better off sticking to manga.
There's a lot of that, isn't there? I suppose I could always hunt down the console VNs that were adapted from anime that were adapted from manga like the Gochiusa game or something.

That's definitely got a bombshell of a plot lurking around in it somewhere. Well, I don't mind that from time to time.

If only this peaceful everyday life could last forever~

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>> No.20721845

It exists, but they are shit, as far as I know. You could try stuff like Rainbow Stage, but honestly.. just get manga or anime. Though unfortunately with how big the genre got, plenty of anime exist by now that aren't really any good either. Well, trial and error. But the best all-girl VNs I know do have somewhat of a plot. Rainbow Stage has some fans, but you gotta be pretty die-hard. I found it pretty bad, to be honest. Which is unfortunate, because it is basically exactly like those cgdct anime, just as a VN.

>> No.20722005

I think you need to focus more on what motivates you the most to read it than the difficulty.
Because when I started years ago (with text hooker and mecab) I read things like rance quest, rewrite hf and guilty crown lost christmas, which aren't that difficult but aren't easy to read either, with 0 japanese knowledge and just willpower because I really wanted to read them, cuz it's really a pain to start reading untranslated vns and you really need motivation to go on, obviously there are limits like don't read a muramasa or a subahibi.
Also a tip; try just using translator at the first one or two untranslated vn you read to know what's going on but focusing on mecab/TA because that's what it will teach you japanese, and after you can get on just with mecab (even if really slowly) stop using translator.

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Brehs, I have to say I'm hyped for the Giga game to be released in March. Mainly because of the art, it's just appealing for some reason.

>> No.20722058

>Also a tip; try just using translator at the first one or two untranslated vn
Fuck off.

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>> No.20722360

ichashit anon never fails to make me cringe.

>> No.20722477

I never understood this. Don't they have artists working for them, meaning they work for a monthly salary, no matter how many images they produce in that time or do they just outsource everything?

>> No.20722486

Yeah, Risa is one of the best heroines I've seen in a Moege so far.
Also one of the very few where the protagonists actually cares to put on a condom. Hilarious scene.

>> No.20722492

Depends from company to company.

>> No.20722499

Seems like MC has sisters in this. Are they fuckable?

>> No.20722508

The concept of the game is entering in a relationship with a person related to someone you already know.
Take a guess.

>> No.20722516

Well, presumably you know yourself, so yes?

>> No.20722723

Usually just main art, if at all. (CG, promo, sprites..) A lot of the other stuff gets very commonly outsourced, as you don't need it outside of games and it's not as much. Having a main-artist working for you fulltime is good for other products as well. (official dakis and other merchandise, "artbooks" that may exist for specifc games and so on. For example Yuzusoft does more or less all of that)

Keep in mind that especially backgrounds are also reused between games sometimes and that one artist is obviously not going to be good at literally everything. You may be able to draw the cutest girls, but guys, chibis and backgrounds work very differently. So in other words: Only the main artist would probably be busy long enough to make it worthwhile to hire for some companies. Every game 80+ CG and sprites, add to that promo stuff and the other stuff they may need to do, and you can easily guess how this person is busy. On the flipside you have 20 chibis, or maybe 15 unique backgrounds.

>> No.20723178

Anyone reading the new minori game?

>> No.20723346

Seems to be another blunder going by early EGS reviews. Not a surprise, but still kind of disappointing.

>> No.20723673

Was going to start on Wednesday after work since I'm off on Thursday so I can plow through a route in one go.

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And I'm done with Chocola. Kanako's route is probably best described as: Nice, but Midori exists, so it has no chance of being the best.

Ending-wise Midori's route was probably feeling the most complete. I don't know why her dream was just forgotten in Kanako's route. Devalued the ending there a lot in my opinion. We don't even need to talk about the other two major heroines. They pale. HARD. Misato could've been quite good, but she was underused. The final epilogue made this clear once more, even though she was only mentioned in passing there.
Aside of that, sometimes I feel that the characters don't talk enough with each other. As in, stuff that you see. In Midori's route it's clear how important Kanako is to her. But not because you get that shown. Because you get that told. Matter of fact wise. You never see any reason why these two are supposed to be good friends. That obviously hurts Kanako's route as well, where I feel like there was generally a lot more time on the past needed.

Well, it was fun. Standard edition is very hit or miss though. They didn't even port the ps2 Midori final short story over. Which is extremely weird, given that the game otherwise IS the ps2 version, with all its changes in gameplay towards the end. (god was that change good. The calendar system was already shit enough for 2 months, I'm glad I didn't get another month of that shit..) Also apparently standard has a newer engine than re-order. I'm not sure how bad re-order is, hopefully not as bad as Ripple, but... yeah. In standard you have all you need, other than ctrl actually skipping everything while you have "skip only read text" set. You know, what ctrl actually does in every fucking VN, other than Giga ones. But yeah, it's normal in Giga stuff. As dumb as it is.

>> No.20724473

I honestly liked Kanako's normal ending better than the true one, god the whole thing was so contrived and I fucking hate easily avoidable MISUNDERSTANDINGS as backstories.

>> No.20724569

It's a little more than that. It's somewhat based on a misunderstanding, but the protag didn't want to make excuses and hated the way Kanako reacted afterwards. (getting held back purposely) Like I said, there was too little about the past to really understand why all of that got so fucking awkward. We just have to believe a little too much as is, and depending on if you dislike or like the general idea of the story, it can go wrong. The reasons, while only mentioned in passing, do kinda make sense, as there were immediate trigger to have both get angry at the other one respectively. For how big Midori's role seems to have been in all of it, it ended up not exactly mattering though. Can't forget that it was a thing though. If she actually WANTED to help, she probably could've. But you know. Being Midori is suffering.

But yeah, I liked Midori's side more. Good old "what do, if you fall for your bff".

>> No.20725414

You can chink magic into sorceress alive now if you have it. Throw https://pan.baidu.com/s/1PHDN70-fvfe-5Mdy5ZLreg (pass:dzf2) into the folder and dmm crack as usual.
Proper crack shouldn't take long now either.

>> No.20725765

Fuck off, chink worshipper.

Velka already uploaded the game and always_smile fully cracked it.

>> No.20725974

Relax, it's just more options if you didn't happen to check AS. Plus considering it's also a 600mb patch and posted a couple hours after the chinks' it probably came from the same place anyway.

>> No.20725987

I guess so. Fair enough.

>> No.20726105

>reddit spacing
Go back.

>> No.20726185

What you call "reddit spacing" has been the standard on 4chan for well over a decade. Go back to whatever shithole was unfortunate enough to spawn you.

>> No.20726193

umm no sweaty
Moot was a redditor and a black spot on 4chan's otherwise impeccable history

>> No.20726282

What's that?

>> No.20726324

Fuck off.

>> No.20727721

The verbosity was far worse than the reddit spacing. Reads just like something out of A Post-Modern RPG.

>> No.20728758 [DELETED] 

How is >>20726105 reddit spacing? If he didn't format it it would've been a huge wall of text. Also funny that you target 3 people who are actually talking about eroge while you shitpost for the nth time

>> No.20728767

How is >>20724034 reddit spacing? It would have been a huge wall of text otherwise. Also funny that you target the whole 3 people actually talking about eroge as you shit all over the thread. At this rate you're worse than leddit.

>> No.20729069

Yeah, all these stupidly long posts can be easily compressed to couple of lines. Kids these don't care about economy of words.

>> No.20729075

My wife kirie is so fucking cute

>> No.20729077

>he believes reddit spacing meme
Lmao, you might as well believe in black lives matter bullshit

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>> No.20729168

He's an ESL, give him a break.

Here's a tip: try to write longer sentences. A barrage of full stops in rapid succession is not very pleasant to read.

>> No.20729204

How can she be your wife if she is already mine?

>> No.20729218

/vn/ wants to be a merge with us

>> No.20729298

No problem

>> No.20729302

Fuck off, EOPs!

>> No.20729314

Bros, this thread is fucking dead, the best option is merge with vn...

>> No.20729322

Anyway there are already many JOPS there, I don't see the problem...

>> No.20729346

This thread is just slow which I find really nice and comfy.

>> No.20729355
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I love Smee games' idiot protagonists even if they end up recycling a similar archetype in every title. The banter is so much better when the other party in the relationship also bounces shit back or even initiates humor rather than being a complete plank like in most moege.

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Chiwa is cute! Cute!

>> No.20730229

Dude, haven't you seen the EOP hate of this thread? literally one of the times this thread is most active is just to flame an EOP or hooker.

>> No.20730394

hookers are great

>> No.20730448

vn is a hell hole. Ever since I left there I've never been happier.

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>> No.20731393

Fuck off, you piece of shit.

>> No.20732540

So how is Sorceress Alive?

>> No.20733235

Mediocre like everything else released in the past few years.

>> No.20733358

Is Sugar Style any good?

>> No.20733366

Hanahira is exactly that.

>> No.20733921

No stop I want somebody to write autistic paragraphs on it as usual.

>> No.20734023

EGS. What I saw so far was: "It's shit. 90/100"

>> No.20734104

It’s alright.
The common route drags on too long for my tastes though with too few heroine specific events mixed it.

>> No.20734755
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Why won't Key make more Angel Beats? I want Yurippe's route, damn it.

>> No.20735616

Maeda isn't there anymore. Just look at Summer Pockets. The concept was good. The execution beyond awful.

>> No.20735622

>The concept was good
No it wasn't.

>> No.20735694

does every route in KKK have around the same length or do they all share a lot of "common route" text making anything after the first one way shorter?

>> No.20735721

did maeda ever end up getting that heart transplant he needed or can I expect him to die any day now?

>> No.20736002

The later.

>> No.20736706

Sometimes I dream about being an eroge writer in Japan. I feel like I could make some really good games.

>> No.20736724

What would you write? "Good" moege?

>> No.20736782

Been hunting for Jisatsu no Tame no 101 no Houhou for the past few days with no success outside of the corrupted 397 mb file. Would it be alright to ask for a dl or torrent that works? Game looks like abandonware.

>> No.20736792

I can upload it for you tomorrow if no one has done it by then. I only have the iso because the game needs it to run.

>> No.20736923

I bet Amy Winehouse's song where she says "no! no! no!" is a reference to that game's title.

>> No.20737034

I also dream of making good games but eroge are the last thing I'd do

>> No.20737544

Post writing excerpts

>> No.20737727


OF Mans First Disobedience, and the Fruit
Of that Forbidden Tree, whose mortal tast
Brought Death into the World, and all our woe,
With loss of Eden, till one greater Man
Restore us, and regain the blissful Seat, [ 5 ]
Sing Heav'nly Muse, that on the secret top
Of Oreb, or of Sinai, didst inspire
That Shepherd, who first taught the chosen Seed,
In the Beginning how the Heav'ns and Earth
Rose out of Chaos: Or if Sion Hill [ 10 ]
Delight thee more, and Siloa's Brook that flow'd
Fast by the Oracle of God; I thence
Invoke thy aid to my adventrous Song,
That with no middle flight intends to soar
Above th' Aonian Mount, while it pursues [ 15 ]
Things unattempted yet in Prose or Rhime.
And chiefly Thou O Spirit, that dost prefer
Before all Temples th' upright heart and pure,
Instruct me, for Thou know'st; Thou from the first
Wast present, and with mighty wings outspread [ 20 ]
Dove-like satst brooding on the vast Abyss
And mad'st it pregnant: What in me is dark
Illumin, what is low raise and support;
That to the highth of this great Argument
I may assert Eternal Providence, [ 25 ]
And justifie the wayes of God to men.

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>> No.20738866

Now type it in japanese

>> No.20739100

Did you actually write this anon? Well done if so.

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