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I'm Sister Edition

old: >>20509779

>New? Start here:
https://pastebin.com/RbQDNtmt (embed)

>Mods:
http://pastebin.com/HcTtYVsn (embed)

>E+ Changelogs:
http://elona.wikia.com/wiki/Changelog_%28Elona%2B%29

>Elona Custom Release Thread:
https://elona.wikia.com/wiki/Thread:29851

>Elona+ Custom-G Release Thread:
http://elona.wikia.com/wiki/Thread:29336

>Omake Overhaul English Release Thread:
https://elona.wikia.com/wiki/Thread:28909

>Current Version:
Elona+ 1.85 (2018-12-05)
Elona Omake Overhaul EN (14/09/2018)
>Latest Custom:
E+C 1.85.5 (2018-01-13)
Elona+ Custom-G 1.85.5.1 (2018-12-30)
Omake Overhaul EN Hack 20180914 (09/14/2018)


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I still wonder why there isn't a manga/anime adaption of Elona till now, all while there are tons and tons of shitty isekai/fantasy works popping up left and right in the recent years (especially the cringey ones where the Kiritoclone MCs get to shag their first slave doggrill immediately after they purchase her)

[Anonymous No.]

>play omake overhaul
>can't eat cargo food inside dungeons
>blacksmith can't enhance weapons and arnors
Can't believe I fell for the meme

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Let's talk about necromancy!
Is it a viable end-game option? As in, clearing 4-digit dungeons, farming cores, and killing gods?
Preferably with the skellies doing a majority of the work?

It really bothers me how there's no "organic" way for your minions to get stronger. Either you're grinding alchemy and anatomy and your summons are getting stronger, or they aren't improving. It isn't like pets who are constantly spending money and getting stronger while you play.

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>>20640809
There's this one LN I've picked up recently that made me want to open up Elona again.
https://sekaigamethetranslation.wordpress.com/
Parts of it are occasionally reminiscent of Elona. It's closer to Konosuba than Sao if that makes it any more attractive to you.

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>>20640134
You forgot the title.

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>>20640954
Ah fuck
I did it again

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The new version of Custom-G should be out later today. While moving everything to the new chat macro I noticed placeholder text that I'd missed previously, so the translation will be improved.
However, I'm ambivalent about BloodyShade's replacement of "### gold pieces" with "###gp", so for now that's not being incorporated.

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Help! I can't choose between Plus or OO.

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>>20642067
Play plus for now and switch to foobar later

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Anyone know where did Noa get his music from for elin?

Also wen

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Custom-G 1.86.1.1 is out. Let me know if there are any bugs or anything. (Here's hoping there won't be any and I'll be able to take it easy for a while...)

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Damn, it feels good knowing I'll be able to play Elona without worrying about minmaxing to be viable and I don't have to read through someone's fanfic.

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>>20640884
Extreme endgame with Necromancy becomes tedious, because the speed differential exists and trying to get the minions to scale properly is a pain in the ass. There are a lot of quality of life additions that has made Necromancy more effective in the scale up to end game, but with the system as it is, undead pets end up being more effective for the late game Necromancer than Necromancy itself.

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>>20643223

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>>20643223
Explain

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>>20643418
One of this general's running gags is that Elona Omake's "endgame" and build variation allows for basically anything to work on substantially less time and work.

Another one of the running gags is that no one gives a shit about Elona+'s story, because outside of the Japanese literate, for a long time people had no clue there was a story. (Before Custom went through the translation process, people just ignored the story altogether)

Basically. general memes.

[Anonymous No.]

well, time to update from 1.76 to 1.86

here we gooooo

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what got changed/added in 1.86?

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>>20645420
A new deed was added that lets you move properties around, the Marionette Shaman got a couple new options, the Chapter 4 area got a graphical overhaul, the player's ability to resist brainwashing was doubled, and using a potion like a tool now makes you throw it at yourself (even if the potion already had a use function). And some other stuff I forgot.

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>>20645484
>chapter 4
nani?

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>>20645512
What, you didn't know about being able to travel to Gaius Vis?

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>>20645540
I simply killed enthumesis,slayed all the inner gods and assumed there was nothing else to do,maybe i didnt checked my journal?

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>>20645561
You should've gotten an event upon returning to North Tyris, though seeing as I've only played base E+ in Japanese, I don't know when or if Custom did the translation for the event.

Not all that much in Irmwell atm anyways.

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>>20645616
Only partially translated. Of course, with Custom-G everything is at least machine translated.
...Except for new cutscenes which were apparently added to scene1.hsp at some point, but never translated and added to scene2.hsp.
Well, that's next on the todo list, I guess...

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Can you craft weapons in this game?

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>>20645970
I think at one point spam-crafting lightsabers and panties was a thing, but I can't seem to remember why or how.

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>>20645970
You can combine some special materials with any one piece of equipment to turn it into a few randarts of that equipment type.
There used to be straight-up weapon and armor crafting, but it was removed during the randomness/scumming purge ages ago. I still remember crafting a truckload of spears to get a living weapon spear back in the day, after Kai the godslayer recommended it.

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>>20645970
Plus doesn't allow you because it's bad. The crafting is just mixing stuff, while OO has actual weapon crafting and Smithing is a skill.

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>>20646070
Tailoring and Carpentry. Needs an early version of E+ for it.

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>>20645970
Yeah. The vanilla game lets you craft a few equipment types but I'm not sure if you can make weapons. You don't really have any control over how the item turns out either.

Omake Overhaul has a smithing hammer item that lets you create, enhance, and modify weapons and armor. It's ridiculously powerful but also it's a ridiculous grind to get it up to a good level. It's possible to use a smithing hammer to combine so many "it sometimes nullifies damage" enchantments onto your equipment that your chance to nullify damage reaches 100% and you become invincible. Even non-combat damage like starvation can't hurt you. Supposedly in oomsest there's a third form of Ehekatl deep in the void that can break through it, though.

In Plus you can consume an item to create three randomized high quality items of the same type (eg you can use a long sword to craft three high quality long swords with random properties). You can also modify an item into a similar item type (eg turn a long sword into a katana, claymore, or lightsaber, keeping most of its original properties). Lastly, there's a late game system that lets you add specific properties to existing items. That last function is how you make the best items in the game, but it's a pretty time-consuming grind. Since you asked about weapons specifically, I should mention that martial arts is more powerful than any weapon in Plus.

[Anonymous No.]

>create Danger! fruit juices
>reverse-pickpocket them onto unsuspecting NPCs
would it work?

[Anonymous No.]

I'm honestly a bit curious where the "plus is shit play omake" posts came from.
Just from reading about both they have their own strengths and weaknesses. Though I guess I can't say much since the reason I stuck with plus is I am the one asshole that plays for the story.

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>>20648688
There's a difference between wanting to play the story and wanting to play fanfiction. You fall to the latter, unfortunately.

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>>20648859
Eh. At least it is good fanfic so I am content.
The strange world Noa made was interesting and I am glad people like Ano decided to fill it with more places and creatures.

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Is pure ranged really not viable or is it that there are better options so it looks bad?

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>>20650192
The latter. Generally speaking any build is viable, even in E+.

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>>20648688
>I'm honestly a bit curious where the "plus is shit play omake" posts came from.
Version war memes are very common when there is little else to discuss and multiple versions exist. The story bit is just an easy excuse.

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>>20648859
All that matters is whether it's good or not and both Elona and Elona Plus's stories are garbage.

>>20650192
Ranged should have about half as much potential as 2H/DW, which have about half the damage potential of martial arts. This is before taking into account that ranged won't get as much pierce as lightsabers or martial arts. You can probably make it work but it's definitely not good.

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>>20650192
No matter what anyone says all playstyles work, it's just some require more of a grind than others.

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>>20650492
Frankly most players new to Elona probably won't ever get to the point where they notice a substantial difference. Wouldn't be surprising if most of them stop playing in Act 2, or after Zeome in base Elona.

[Anonymous No.]

Any tip to being a decent elea claymore? I've been starting over more times than I like to redesign my house

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>>20652113
Why are you starting over and in what version is this.

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>>20652113
Slave your life away in Yowyn farms to improve your strength, don't just rely on natural regeneration and bring some potions with you, get the dimensional move feat or bring loads of teleport scrolls to escape wizard cunts until you get strong/stealthy enough to handle their magic dart spam.

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Hi newfag here on Elona+ 1.84 playing Juere Warrior. Should I be trying to learn spell casting? I keep getting wizards in my dreams teaching me spells and it feels like a waste to not use them but I only have a 1% chance to cast them. Also, is there a benchmark of where your attributes should be in terms of your level? Most of the time my attribute potentials are in the bad range.

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>>20653093
If you're a heavy armor kinda guy then casting spells is going to involve a lot of failure early on, but buffing spells is something everyone can benefit substantially from.
As for attributes to level, don't sweat it.

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>>20653093
Don't worry about it, those dreams are pretty common. Last time I played a warrior, I didn't mess with spellcasting until after I beat Zeome.

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I've been playing Eulderna Warmage for some levels and I'm not sure if going more spellcaster or melee with buffs

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Can you name your weapon in Plus?

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>>20653093
Yeah, spellcasting is very worthwhile even if you don't want to use it to attack. Buffs are powerful and there's a lot of convenient utility spells. Heavy armor, shields, and dual wielding all penalize your casting chance, so if you're training low level spells it might be a good idea to strip down and train them in town. If you're planning to mostly play as a fighter then I wouldn't worry about it until you've got a decent stock of easy to cast spells like minor teleport. Then bind a hotkey to that spell and alternate between casting it and resting. Don't kill yourself by overcasting! The warmage class gets +5% to its casting chance, so consider class changing to that with a business card. If you do want to change your class feat like that, type in the class name in all lowercase letters.

>>20653519
You can use a scroll of name on miracle or godly quality items which will let you choose a name in the same way you chose your alias at character creation. You can't type in your own names for them.

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>>20653519
Any object's name, appearance, and description can be customized.
http://elona.wikia.com/wiki/Garokk_the_legendary_smith#Item_appearance_customization

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>>20653519
>>20653598
Garokk over at the dwarven workshop can let you make fully custom item names, though I've never tried it myself. He can give it a custom icon and description too.
http://elona.wikia.com/wiki/Garokk_the_legendary_smith

[Anonymous No.]

(Elona+) Are claws/shields preventing unarmed invoke gauge for pets now?

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>>20653093
>Also, is there a benchmark of where your attributes should be in terms of your level? Most of the time my attribute potentials are in the bad range.
No, for now don't worry about it and just let let things come as they will. You'll eventually want an herb farm and a reliable supply of potions of potential as these are the best ways to raise your stats and potential.

There are a few ways to get a farm going, I think the most convenient is to wait for act 2. There's a quest that rewards you with a statue of kumiromi which grants you seeds every so often. Look up which days it gives herb seeds on. Trade in little sisters for a few more statues of kumiromi, eventually you want everything you eat to be herbed food.

For potions of potential, once you've got some money, invest a few hundred levels into a magic vendor and they should start selling potions of potential fairly regularly. Mix a stack of potions of potential with a bottle of blessed water before you drink them.

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>>20640134
Why is her thumb on the wrong side?

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>>20654171
1. etherwind.
2. meshera.
3. a wizard did it.

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>>20654171
>>20654199
Minor gene engineering accident

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>>20642067
Both of them have their own strengths and weaknesses.

Want something as wide as an ocean but as deep as a puddle? Then pick Plus.

Want something the size of a lake but with so much depth, the void would be ashamed? Then pick OO.

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Does anyone know if the Archer class feat really works or not? After using a business card (and yes with lowercase spelling, even typed it capitalized too) my hit chance on the character sheet doesn't go up.
I checked the wiki and there were comments back from 2017 saying the same thing so I'm kind of wondering if the feat works in a way that doesn't show in the sheet or something

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>>20657100
if ( cdatan(CDATAN_CLASS, cc) == "archer" ) {
tohit *= 110 / 100
}

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>>20657221
Oh, so it's applied somewhere else. Nice, thanks.

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Elona+ Custom-G 1.86.1.2 is now available. All missing cutscenes have been machine translated, and the use of [t] to throw a potion at yourself has been reverted out.

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>>20657221
Why doesn't it just say *1.1

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>>20658057
The source code is produced by decompiler. It's been cleaned up dramatically, but it's still a bit of a mess.
For example, the source/EXE includes all the data in Custom's "externalized" text files, but said files have to be present or the game crashes with an error message. So there's two identical copies of these ~1000-entry databases, and one of each pair apparently goes completely unused.

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>>20657667
>the use of [t] to throw a potion at yourself has been reverted out.

why? it seems to be a reasonable quality of life feature.

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>>20659461
How often do you need to throw a potion at yourself that it constitutes a "quality of life feature"?

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>>20659461
>>20659488
I mean doesn't throwing it at your tile accomplish the same thing anyway?

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>>20659488
well, for example, I sometimes do this right before using Meteor.

>>20659540
Sure, but it's one less keypress. Plus you can hotkey this.

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(Elona+C) Trying to make a self-buffing pet that properly work can be a bitch at times. What buff does Killing Dance fall under?

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>>20659904
You'll need to go on wikia and pester BloodyShade to add the Killing Dance buff to the list.

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>>20659972
welp. I guess for now,
> self > buff > != > Hero > Killing Dance
and me or the lolis in the party casting Cheer whenever the shota starts spamming it would be the temporary remedy.

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>>20659608
Well, since someone actually has a use for the thing:
Custom-G 1.86.1.3 is out. The [t] potion thing is now a Convenience tweak if you want it.

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Will Ano ever fix the scaling magic resistance

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>>20660158
thanks!

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can you be a cyborg in elona?

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>>20661401
Either play a Machine race or just a Mutant and get the "machine part" armour pieces

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>>20661401
No.

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>>20640134
Are people playing Omake now? When I left a few years ago it was all about Custom.

Has the game improved?

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>>20663623
Omake and Omake Overhaul got English translations. Most people try out OO for a day or two and then drop it because it's basically vanilla Elona without any of the quality of life stuff they're used to.

There's a mod called Custom-G that goes on top of Custom. It machine translates all untranslated text, removes stupid things like the thirst/peeing mechanic, and adds a few other conveniences.

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>>20654853
What depth does OO add?

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>>20663704
I dunno what that poster was referring to but I think trying to start the hero quest in OO took way longer than clearing the main story in E+ desu.

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Does anybody know which character this is? I'm trying to make a Martial Artist character and I can't find a good portrait for it.

I can't upload the image for some reason so I uploaded it on another site.
https://my.mixtape.moe/bzdjrf.png

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I'm doing the main quest trying to find the 3 magic stones to break the seal in Lesimas. Are the 3 stones actual items? I just beat the boss in Ancient Castle but nothing dropped.

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>>20667029
Key items. They show up in your (j)ournal.

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I noticed my riding pet is basically not leveling at all. Is this normal? Or should I be letting him run around by himself to train himself. Also, is there a quick way to give him food other than dismounting, handing the food to him, then remounting? Just using a horse from Yowyn right now as reference.

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>>20663623
Omake Overhaul and Plus are both fairly popular. There's an english version of OOMSEST now as well, and I think it's a clear upgrade over OO.

>>20663662
>Omake and Omake Overhaul got English translations. Most people try out OO for a day or two and then drop it because it's basically vanilla Elona without any of the quality of life stuff they're used to.
You know, I'd say OO beats Plus on quality of life. OOMSEST even more so. Stuff like pushing past NPCs, examining multiple items with fewer keypresses, auto-digging, and the super lure effect being an option in the menu outweigh what Plus offers. The only quality of life factor in Plus that really stands out to me is its changes to the platinum system (which admittedly are a big improvement).

>>20663704
It doesn't, really. Neither of the two popular mods are meaningfully deeper than each other or the base game.

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>>20667562
It should be getting experience. Did you ever tell it not to attack enemies? Try giving it permission to attack again. Since being ridden on lowers the pet's speed by a lot, it will train its skills more slowly than it would normally.

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>>20667782
What does OOMSEST actually add?

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>>20668391
I don't have the complete list of changes, but off of the top of my head it adds:
Speech bubbles above NPCs whenever they say something.
Wandering vendors have more and higher quality items. Wands of wishing and material kits are common.
All gods can be summoned, including Inari and Danalin, and Ehekatl has a third form.
You can trade with most NPCs at any time instead of only during "I want it" quests.
There are a ton more options, many of which are very nice conveniences, like the ability to skip fishing animations, showing the player's luck and piety, and displaying attribute potentials as a number.
You can wish for "featreset" which will refund all positive feats.
Potions of greater cure corruption. I haven't drunk one but I'm given to understand that they let you choose one ether corruption to remove instead of going after the most recent.

This is in addition to everything in OO and most of OO EN hack's features.

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Living weapons can add a maximum of 140 pts to a single skill, if you're willing to put up with blood sucking.

A mutant can use something like 24 weapons at the same time. So you can have a 140x24=3360 point boost to a single skill.

What's the best use for this?

- you can use it to get a huge amount of spell stock out of a single spellbook. Wish, for example.

- You can abuse the skull sword / crystal bomb recipes to craft thrown weapons that can easily take down inner gods.

- You can boost Magic Device to turn any rod you find into end-game weapons. Probably better to do this one using non-bloodsucking weapons.

Is there anything I missed from this list?

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>>20667782
>pushing past NPCs
I guess that'd make a newbie less annoyed. Personally, I enjoy having to smash through walls and teleport random people; it's like being a force of nature.
>examining multiple items with fewer keypresses
Not only can I not imagine how faster item examination would work mechanically, I can't imagine how this would constitute a "quality of life improvement". Examining an item doesn't come up frequently; examining multiple items at once even less so.
>auto-digging
I can't think of a single scenario where an auto-digging mode would be considered better than Houzanha.
>the super lure effect being an option in the menu
This is definitely an improvement in my book. Although I'm curious, is it really exactly the same as the super lure, or does the normal amount of time pass with the normal random stamina cost and it just skips the animation?
>The only quality of life factor in Plus that really stands out to me is its changes to the platinum system
You must've never played long enough to obtain the god furniture. Personally, I'm never playing Elona without Itzpalt's Sculpture again.
Anyway, if memory serves, OOENhack added a way to tweak platinum costs. Perhaps there'll be an OOMSESTENhack?

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>>20668648
>most of OO EN hack's features.
I never bother with English versions desu.

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>>20668723
If you really want to game it, Living Weapons aren't limited to 140 points.

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How do you people understand this game? It feels too intimidating for me at the start, but maybe I'm just retarded.

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>>20669049
how so?

btw Google is making me complete ~20 recaptchas per post now. fuck you google. fuck you very much.

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>>20669053
Read the ingame log to understand what just happened, read the update's changelogs to understand what the dev just added to the game, ask questions here and hope for honest answers.
In roguelikes, you are supposed to explore and experiment things. "Intimidating" is an expected side-effect since these games usually are quite big and full of secrets to discover, but that is part of the fun. Elona definitively have some very obscure mechanics (sometimes caused by translation issues or just pure lack of details and descriptions), so don't be afraid to ask questions about it if you can't figure out a specific feature on your own.
The only real problem I have with roguelikes in general is getting used to the controls, most of the time I play games with a controller so I'm not too used to stuff like the lowercase and uppercase of the same letter having different commands (Elona have a decent controller support and radial menu, but being able to play with the numpad ended up being a lot nicer to me).

>>20669161
If you have 4chanX or some variant installed, try to use the "Force Noscript Captcha" feature. This way you will never get any of the stupid captcha puzzles like "keep clicking on stuff until your brain dies". 4chanX will automatically copy and deliver the completion key to Google so you don't have to do it yourself.
Or, if you prefer, you can also try to use a Chromium-based browser and log in with your google account, this will let you skip some captchas automatically every now and then.

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has anyone gotten Wishes from scrolls of wonder lately? I'm on 1.85 and I recently burnt a whole 1000+ stack of blessed scrolls, no wish stock gained. I wonder if it was nerfed, or just a bug...

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>>20669161
The way Living Weapons worked in older versions wasn't the same, the level limitation wasn't there and the way modifications worked was different, so gaming it just took time. It was "too broken" so they nerfed it over and over again.

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What was the variant that would allow you to use both OO and plus's mechanics?

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>>20669753
As far as I know, people are just talking about their dreams and hopes. The Foobar variant will be a port of vanilla Elona's code to C++, and that is all.
I'm not saying it will be impossible for people to also port other variants to C++, or to work on a whole new variant inspired by the old ones using Foobar/C++ as a base, but none of this will be a "plug'n'play" process.

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>>20669828
Ah well nothing can be easy...

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>>20668844
>Not only can I not imagine how faster item examination would work mechanically, I can't imagine how this would constitute a "quality of life improvement". Examining an item doesn't come up frequently; examining multiple items at once even less so.
In E+ if you want to look at each item in a stack, you press x to examine the first, then shift to back out, then down to select the next and then x to examine it. In OO you press x to examine the first, then down to examine the second. It's nice for looking through larger stacks of items, like an adventurer's inventory.

>>20668844
>This is definitely an improvement in my book. Although I'm curious, is it really exactly the same as the super lure, or does the normal amount of time pass with the normal random stamina cost and it just skips the animation?
You can skip the animation. Otherwise it's normal fishing. You still get experience and it still takes the normal amount of time.

>>20668844
>You must've never played long enough to obtain the god furniture. Personally, I'm never playing Elona without Itzpalt's Sculpture again.
Not too impressed with those. Ehekatl's painting is alright, I suppose. I don't care at all about the sculpture because by act 3 I'm not eating anything but herbed, store-bought flour-based food. In OO it wouldn't make a big difference either since the best things to eat are god-blessed food (which is always blessed) and enemies with the devour special action (which don't have buc status).

>>20668844
>Anyway, if memory serves, OOENhack added a way to tweak platinum costs. Perhaps there'll be an OOMSESTENhack?
The OOMSEST translator has already been asked and the answer was "probably not."

A few more nice convenience features: Little sisters go inside the pokeball instead of joining your team right away. You don't have to make room for them and can turn in dozens at once if you want to. Shopkeepers also show an icon above their heads when they've restocked their inventories since you last spoke to them.

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Is it me or does scroll of name never droop in omake overhaul?

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>>20640134
why does sister have backwards palms?

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>>20669053
Don't worry, that's normal. When I first discovered this game, I didn't know what the fuck I was doing
After a a year, I tried it again and slowly learned about things and I got hooked

I recommend getting Custom-G since it translates the Adventurer Seminar. It should help you learn how to play the game, for a price.

For example, I didn't know cargo of traveler's food didn't make you stronger while normal food did so before I read that, I didn't bother with other food and just kept stocking traveler's food. Now I pick up corpses from monsters and get the cooking skill and cook them.

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>>20672550
I think you can only get them from a wish or a rare drop from imps.

[Anonymous No.]

Hey I'm trying to play E+C 1.84 but the regular game link download 404s, where can I download it?

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>>20674786
bloodyshade my dude

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>>20674786
Any reason why you want 1.84 specifically? The official link for 1.86 works fine.

[Anonymous No.]

Does anyone know if you get a debuff if you bring any pets while having the Kokou/Independent feat? Or do you just lose the speed boost if you have allies in your party?

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>>20676223
If I remember correctly, you just lose the bonus

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>>20676055
The Elona threads get weird newfags. They don't notice anything in the OP other than the first link to a pastebin, and they assume that everything in said pastebin is 100% up to date even if it says at the top that it hasn't been updated in months. Then they try the first download link in the pastebin, and when it fails they ignore the backup links right next to it and come here to complain.

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>>20676468
But that's a standard for newfags though

[Anonymous No.]

>vessel the white hawk
Is this just a mistranslation of bethel?

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>>20677722
Are you not playing Custom-G? I thought it fixed that translation.

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>>20676468
Forgive me friend
I am the big dumb

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>>20669828
>none of this will be a "plug'n'play" process
Absolutely. To me though, Foobar represents a future for Elona. Elona died pretty early in development. As a result it doesn't have fleshed out features which would show maturity. From combat to UI to whatever. Modders have done great things with Elona and HSP. I hope Foobar will act as a way to break off from HSP's shackles and make it easier to customize and enhance the way you play. Great example https://github.com/ElonaFoobar/ElonaFoobar/issues/1159

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>>20640134
>haven't played Elona in years
>at least 3 variants in the OP now
Well shit. Guess since I played Plus already I'll go with one of the other two instead.

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>>20681033
Same here. Part of the reason I get annoyed when people dismiss it because "it would require work". If people are capable of doing amazing things with HSP I fully expect great mods to be out for Foobar within a year of whenever Foobar gets the base elona content actually ironed out.

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(Elona+) >enemies have Stamina gauge now
Is this an actually functioning Stamina gauge for them, or is it simply there so that the player can no longer abuse the shit out of Drain Blood?

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>>20681118
Custom and Custom G are Plus with additional translations and some convenience features. OO EN Hack hack is Omake Overhaul with an English translation and a few convenience features. There's also an English translation of OOMSEST available now, which is a descendant of Omake Overhaul and what I would recommend playing if you wanted to try OO.

[Anonymous No.]

>play omake overhaul
>timestop is badass as fuck, turns the screen grey with the ticking clock sound, a la Jojo
>play elona plus
>timestop is lame as fuck, some gay swirly shit appears and that's it

[Anonymous No.]

>>20682650
>English translation of OOMSEST available now, which is a descendant of Omake Overhaul and what I would recommend playing if you wanted to try OO.
Why is that? I just got done installing OO EN Hack a little while ago, but if OOMSEST is that much better I'm definitely interested in it.

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I just did a dumb. I had a whole bunch of chests on a floor of my house, waiting for a lucky day proc so I could get the most stuff from them. I also stored stuff on that floor of the house, like gems, gift stockpiles and othre treasures. I opened all the chests in one go, so not to waste the lucky day effect... and quite a bit of my stuff on the floor is gone. Even though I picked up most of the treasure from the chests before I went to the ground floor. And because it saves when you change floor in your house, I can't revert back.

Turns out, it just wasn't my lucky day.

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>>20682676
It essentially is a "more stuff" variant on top of many other variants.
Omake is a vanilla Elona variant, then someone else created a variant for Omake called Omake Overhaul (you are here), then Omake Overhaul got a variant called OOModify, and so on. At the end of this story we have "Omake Overhaul Modify Sukutu Edition South Tyris".

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>>20682792
ALL MY HERBS! GONE! The rage I feel is unspeakable.

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>>20682792
>this is why I use the Lesimas dungeon as my storage house

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>>20682802
Guess I'm going to have to look through the wiki a bit more or google for an english link. All I saw so far was the page describing what the mod is and the links for the twitter, what looks like a nip wordpress, and a password locked site. Either that or I'm being retarded and missing something obvious.

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>>20682898
Apparently OOMSEST's english patch can only be downloaded from the Discord community because it's a WIP. All the early stuff is already translated, at least (I only played it for a few hours, right now I'm messing around with the custom god feature).
I'm not part of said discord server but a kind anon posted a few links on a previous thread. I believe this is the correct post:
>>/jp/thread/S20509779#p20534847
Also read the post >>20533898 on the same thread to learn how to fix a bug on the oo_talk.txt file.

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>>20682948
Oh, the thread still is alive on 4chan's archive, I feel stupid now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20682948
Thanks anon, didn't actually think about searching the archives for it for some reason.

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>>20682865
It's fine to use the second/basement floor of your house as a storage room, anon's mistake was ignoring the room's object limit and creating too many item on the same room, forcing the game to delete the oldest items in the room.
The same thing can happen to you and your precious dungeon floor (and any other place in the game), so either pay attention to the room's item limit or open your treasure chests on some other area (like some other Lesimas floor).

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>>20683003
I'm well aware of the item limits; at least in Lesimas I've got more leeway to compartmentalize (i.e. just drop around hundred openables each floor); with 40 floors to choose from instead of 2.

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>>20683021
it's actually a bit worse in Lesimas because 1. you can't get an item count from the house board and 2. occasionally a fire-breathing/icebolt casting monster will spawn.

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>>20683021
>2
http://elona.wikia.com/wiki/Furniture#Upstairs_and_downstairs
>Your home can be expanded to include a second floor and nine basement levels, for a total of eleven floors.

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>>20682792
You can turn off autosave with Custom-G

[Anonymous No.]

on the subject of disabling the autosave, custom-G misses a lot of the cases. For example, using a scroll of wonder still autosaves. As does failing Karavika's quest.

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>>20682948
>>20682963
That post is missing a step. Here are the complete instructions on how to get OOMSEST up and running:

What you need is vanilla Elona 1.22 from here:
http://ylvania.org/en/elona
Then JP Omake Overhaul from the left side of this page:
https://twitter.com/omake_overhaul
THEN you need all the files for oomsest. This is what I missed last time. If you already downloaded that other stuff before, you can just grab this and then don't overwrite the oomsest exe.
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/410208644379049994/505773145211535360/OOMSEST_English_alpha.zip
Then after that you can grab the latest patch to the oomsest exe that I posted earlier.
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/410208644379049994/524970134293708808/oomSE_southtyris.exe

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>>20684080
Oh yeah, and after doing that, find oo_talk.txt and add

%O_DEFAULT,EN
Oh, great. Another adventurer.
%END

to the beginning of the file or else untranslated dialogue might crash the game.

[Anonymous No.]

Is Karune the nipland of Irva?

[Anonymous No.]

I want to play Elona but my computer broke.

[Anonymous No.]

Am I remembering wrong, or can you not use NPC style files for the PC's appearence? I seem to remember being able to do this.

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>>20685967
What's a "style file"?

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>>20686061
Sorry meant sprite

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>>20685967
You can edit a PC template on your image editor of choice and put the NPC sprite you want on all 16 frames.
Unfortunately the PC animation frame isn't as large as the NPC template, so sometimes you have to edit/remove some details, usually weapons and capes.
I believe this the only way to do it, but hopefully someone will call me stupid and post the correct way to do this.

>>20686061
I guess anon is talking about templates. You know, a NPC template is a single 48x48 file, while PC template have multiple animation frames.

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>>20686091
Mine is actually 48x96 (file 17 and on for NPC's). If it was equal to a PCC I'd do as you suggest. It simply doesn't work as a PCC.

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I did some testing today on how god blessed food works for the player character in OOMSEST. Most likely it's all true for OO as well.

What I found is that god blessed food only has an effect on the player's potential if their hunger level is at hungry! (with the exclamation mark) or worse. The potential increase is generally 1%. Some foods add 0% potential even when at hungry! status: stomafilias, sandwiches, and cooked food of higher quality than sandwiches gave either nothing or an undetectably small amount. The trend seems to be that highly-filling foods won't give any potential. Curarias give 1%, like most foods, and the other herbs (not curarias or stomafilias) add 3% potential. Kumiromi blessed food adds 1% to learning and Since the game doesn't display potential changes smaller than 1%, I'm not sure if it adds a smaller amount to other stats, as it does with pets, or if you only get learning. Presumably Inari's food is the same deal, except with charisma instead of learning.

Since it's trivial to bless everything you eat, this can potentially be a very strong source of potential, especially since potential in OOMSEST is much harder to raise than in E+.

[Anonymous No.]

so in new versions of E+ it's possible to throw food at NPCs and force them to eat it.

Eating mochi sometimes choke people to death.

I wonder if it's possible to kill inner gods with mochi? Combine with cursed alcohol for multiple tries, for a danmaku of mochi, booze and puke?

[Anonymous No.]

>install "beautify"
>hermit crab is a girl with tits
Can anyone recommend me a more serious character sheet? This is breaking my immersion

[Anonymous No.]

>>20689384
Nevermind, I ended up getting Kai's tweaked sheets and they're fucking perfect

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>>20686900
After a bit more testing, I think what determines whether you gain potential or not is how hungry you are after eating because if you wait until starving! status then you will still gain potential from some higher quality foods.

[Anonymous No.]

Is magic eye a meme

[Anonymous No.]

Does equipment of NPC adventurers randomize occasionally, or upon death/respawn, or not at all (until they retire)?

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>>20690225
I don't think I ever killed something with MP damage, even wizard enemies. Apparently Magic Eye feat also unlocks Mind damage attack and a buff that increases Eye's damage and adds a HP/MP steal effect, but I never tested them.
Offensive special actions in general have a pretty bad damage scaling. They all stop being useful eventually.

>>20691107
I believe their stuff is updated every time they clear a dungeon on their own (you get messages announcing their victories every now and then on your log).

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>>20691107
They find new items every now and again, the game sometimes announces when they find miracle quality items. If they lose items from dying they definitely get replacements for them, though I don't know if it happens immediately upon respawning. They seem to also sometimes lose items when they gain new ones, including when trading with the player character so I don't recommend giving them anything you can't afford to lose.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20666448
Looks like Seedle from Makai Kingdom

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>have 20k fame
>'callsign'? I have never heard of you
Immersion=destroyed

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>>20695502
this
a real disappointment

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>>20695512
Even Loyter recognizes me, how the fuck does literal bums not know who I am at this point

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>>20695502
>>20695512
>>20695555
Clearly you aren't used to the Tyrean sense of humor yet.

[Anonymous No.]

>just got literally raped by a younger sister rogue boss and her underlings
Guess I shouldn't have said I was her oneechan.