Daily Japanese Thread DJT第2066版

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This is a Japanese language learning thread for those interested in Stephen Krashen, Steve Kaufmann, authentic japanese rap, and traditional otaku media.

If you have no interest in the above or want to request a translation, this is not the thread for you.

Gambarimasyou, ne?

Guides and resources:
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Previous thread: >>20444979

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私の友人は宇宙人が最近訪れたと信じています.

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オススメのラーメンは？

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>add my own context to cards
>retention rates shoots up to 90%
wish I had realized that earlier

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>>20455025
>4th biggest online language community
どこっすか

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Why does the word 来る that is pronounced くる become きます when used in a sentence? That's kinda confusing. Why not くます?

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>>20455318
lmao what the fuck are you reading?

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>>20455325
I'm learning vocab through core.

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>>20455337
I think you're confused.

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>>20455345
Which is why i'm asking.

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>>20455239
>my own context to cards
explain

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>>20455348
I don't know what to tell ya.

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>>20455355
It's still 来ます, but it's pronounced きます instead of くます despite on its own being pronounced くる. I hope this makes more sense.

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>っていうかってっけと思う
>っていう
called/said
>かって
before/once/formerly
>っけ
indicates an attempt at recollection
>と思う
thought
>I thought of trying to recollect what that was formerly called
Did I get it right?

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>>20455354
Insteaed of flipping past a card 20 times to learn it, just add some pictures, sentences, audio, spend a little time with the word in your head. It's more effective all around.

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>>20455403
>と思う

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>>20455318
>become きます when used in a sentence
来【き】 is the continuative form or 連用形 of 来る【くる】
usually different forms of verbs only alter the okurigana or the kana part of the word and not the part represented by the kanji but 来る is exceptional
連用形 is used when attaching ます

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>>20455403
Post the full sentence (image if manga).

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>>20450924
i decided to read this shit expecting it to be a joke but the joke is interpreting this as a defense of language learners translating shit by themselves
with few exceptions the text is about if an instructor is allowed to switch languages
still some bullshit stood out
>"I'm not satisfied with getting the gist, I want to understand every word." "Translating the text was good, lots of dictionary work." "I'm going to learn the dialogue by heart, translate it into Greek and then back into English."
embarrassing overconfidence in the level of understanding possible when you need lots of dictionary work for it
no reason to believe the translation helped any more than comprehension would have
>Maxim 1
the author cant seem to recognize the difference between associating single words and translating entire sentences
>Studies in which informal meaning checks were used at the end of a lesson have repeatedly shown that pupils misunderstand more than their teachers realise.
misunderstandings are unavoidable again overconfidence in level of understanding possible when you suck
in other cases the translation may be the source of confusion but it doesnt matter because you generally dont know what a word means until youve heard it used quite a few times
>But as soon as the pupils want to make up their own sentences and use "sky" when they mean "cloud", all is lost.
>I was deeply embarrassed and I hated the teacher for that.
forced output is your problem innit
>But when used properly, short MT insertions can function as a "conversational lubricant"
fantastic for conversation then but conversation is suboptimal input
>We find excellent texts all the time that we nonetheless do not use because they contain passages that are too difficult, requiring too much time and effort.
if you want the student to fuckin read and get good you should teach them to be comfortable with not understanding some things
otherwise theyll anki all day or stick to graded readers
>Alternatively, we can recommend pupils to look at the foreign language versions of their personal, favourite books first read in their mother tongue.
does this have anything to do with actively interleaving languages
>Bilingual techniques allow teachers to bypass the grammatical progression of textbooks.
just fuckin read what is this bullshit oh no what if i see something new how can i possibly cope
>Now the explanation is superfluous
translations can point you in the right direction but suggesting they replace explanation is embarrassing this is how translation can be the source of confusion
>The relationship between languages should be clearly established and not ignored or suppressed.
where they are related absolutely
>those underperforming hadn't a clue what was going on
thatll happen

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Just took the jcat, got pic related. I think I just got lucky with listening because a couple of them felt like I was guessing. It's disappointing that I scored so low on reading considering it's what I do in Japanese for 80% of the time.

This is after about 700 hours of input if anyone wants to know what to reasonably expect

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>>20455403
That's かつて, not かって
Looks like some bullshit that you mistranscribed or the author fucked up

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>>20455465
>>20455506
hes just using the finest source of input available
djt dekinai hitotati
>>20454676

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>>20455503
let me guess, you're doing full krashen methodolgy?

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>>20455452
So basically it has a lot more to do with the sentence ending with ます?

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>>20455503
How many months in? Pretty good score grats.

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>>20455529
Input only? Yeah, I haven't looked in a grammar reference literally since like hour 100, which I probably ought to

>>20455537
Thanks. I started reading around March/April, but I did some study before that

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Ok, after years... I gave up, I gave up trying to find the logic of kanjis, but I finally came to "understand" (accept) how the kanjis works: I just have to memorize them.
Where or how do I start?
I decide to finally do this because, well, I started to understand, or read some kanjis and say "oh, that's xx!". Product of months seeing them.

So, I'm kinda confident now. I call it a nice little step: to ignore everything I know about my dear precious roman alphabet

I read that there are levels? that they are composed of radicales? I don't know, you guide me, please.

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>>20455536
yes although there are other auxiliary verbs that could be attached to 来る which would result in that or another sound change
might help for you to glance at some conjugation examples or something but most english explanations are very different from how natives describe it
for example they will just call 来ます、来て etc individual conjugations with individual sound change rules instead of just saying ます and て and lots of auxiliary verbs attach to the 連用形 of a verb which is where the sound change came from
there are a couple other forms of verbs too

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>>20455488
ain't reading all that shit.

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>>20455601
Do the first 600 kanji in RTK in like a month.
Extend what you learn to new kanji you meet while learning vocab (anki/reading).

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>>20455601
gotta find ways to make it fun, imagine you're playing your favorite game and the way to get master rank is to learn as much of them as you can. Spend 3-4 months doing it slowely but surely. Once you commit to that learning japanese is all down hill.

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>>20455601
>I started to understand, or read some kanjis and say "oh, that's xx!". Product of months seeing them.
sounds like you already found the secret method
what do you actually know and what are you hoping to achieve
general advice is learn words and kanji come along for free
going out of your way to complete a kanji checklist is counterproductive
>>20455627
but i wrote it for you
>>20455631
your advice could be worse
>>20455637
itd be hard to make your advice worse

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>>20455647
>just immerse without knowing anything at all
good advice, but he might not be autistic

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>>20455672
i didnt say that and while i dont recommend ankidroning my advice could easily be taken as do core10k if thats what gets you off
he also clearly doesnt know nothing if hes had the product of months of seeing them

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>>20455674
Oh I haven't been actually reading what you say lol

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>>20455682
no worries im used to it lol

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>>20455631
what.
I wasn't clear about this, but: I don't know anything at all lol, so, I don't know what "RTK" or "anki" are. I expected books, a website, etc, you know, stuff like that.
Could you tell me what are these things, please?

>>20455637
Yeah, it's nice to enjoy it
>Spend 3-4 months doing it slowely but surely
well, it's been years. and I could die tomorrow, and my favourite and super cute seiyuus/idols will turn into hags tomorrow, so that's it, all the time I have left.
But yeah, I understand what you mean, I guess

>>20455647
>sounds like you already found the secret method
Well, it was forced. Things weren't like this 5 years ago, but I am tired and I am finally staring to see them that way; because, apparently, it's the only way.

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>>20455691
everybody find their own unique way and then thinks it's the only way to do it.. I hope that helps you sift through this.. if you are truly taking on kanji god speed 無しさん

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>>20455716
I want to do it. Japanese can't fucking beat me. I had a lot of downs, but it can't. fucking. beat me.

2019 is the year

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>>20455691
for an overview of most of the bullshit you could be told to do see https://itazuraneko.neocities.org/learn/guide.html
practicing kanji in isolation is a time consuming meme that some people swear by because otherwise theyd have to admit they wasted months not learning japanese
your time is likely better spent learning to read words written in kanji instead
if you struggle severely with mixing them up you can practice a few hundred kanji in isolation to get a better feel for the pieces they are made out of and then go back to vocab
lastly youd better fuckin read some real japanese thats the most important part

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>>20455614

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sometimes it be like that gambare

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i've communicated more with the regulars here than anyone else online or IRL.

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>>20455741
What about he hybrid approach though?
You learn the radicals and nemonics, and on the same cards you lean a few vocab words for how it's used. I did a deck like that and it had just enough context to not make it a plain list and I got the kanji out of the way. I mean you're going to forget a lot of stuff anyways, but I think it's a nice foundation.

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>>20455790
as i said if youre seriously struggling with distinguishing words maybe its worth focusing on kanji a little bit to get used to them but definitely not a thousand or more of them
otherwise why learn stuff youre going to forget a lot of when you could learn the same stuff slightly more permanently
the priority should be to get to reading every day since everything else is supplementary
vocab helps you read with less dictionary usage
kanji is a step back that supposedly helps you get to vocab in the first place
dont take a step back if you can avoid it
your brain is better at this than you give it credit for just gotta be patient

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>>20455409
Read supermemo 20 rules

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As a dekinai who’s recently been understanding a lot more, I like to mentally translate to English if I don’t understand a part of a sentence, like all the って and の littered everywhere. I usually only need to do this for a few sentences then I get used to the confusing part of sentence a la “this is just the way Japanese people talk in this situation even though in English it’d be way different.”

I think this works because although Japanese doesnt map to English, there’s plenty of analogues for using English in a way that other English speakers wouldn’t understand within a subculture. 4channel is a great example of that. Take something like, during a conversation about ideal girlfriends, somebody says “>that face when no fat stupid gf”... it’s got a specific type of sarcastically self depricative humour, it’s wrapped up in an unusual format, and it’s gone through multiple stages of memetic evolution. if that wasn’t a 4Channel meme and I encountered a Japanese person saying it, it would still seem to have impossibly steep cultural nuance and I’d feel pretty helpless. By mapping similar situations found in English subcultures, it’s easy to shadow step the inability to map Japanese to English.
Also, although you’re making an analogy to something English to something Japanese, using the Japanese-as-a-subculture method does imply that the differences stem from culture and therefore a word for word transposition isn’t possible nor expected.
Take ftw as it’s used in this thread for example. Could you translate it into any set of words that would make your grandma understand? Or would you be better off explaining what it literally means, why people say it, and then show her a few examples?

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>>20455906
i think this could have less benefit than you imagine it to but theres probably nothing wrong with it
something i like about how you describe it is that that kind of analogy seems to inherently accept that its a guess at the rough meaning rather than some kind of literal translation that you should put weight into

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>>20455989
>literal translation that you should put weight into
I think that’s where a lot of people (me) get tripped up. They (i) find a literal translation, but it’s using a word that doesn’t make sense, or it’s something you’d say but not that often, or it’s missing a lot of stuff you’d otherwise add to a sentence. But using subcultures as an analogy for those culturally rooted language differences establishes that hey, this is something I’ve encountered before here here and here, not only is it not a problem, it’s something I’m already comfortable dealing with.

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Oh, and you naturally map an unknown Japanese process to a known Japanese process when applicable so it’s not like you’re crippling you’re Japanese either. Eg, after getting a hang of previously-mentioned currently-omitted subjects, it was the familiar concept for figuring out how it makes sense to use だから at the start of a response. it has the nuance of “as I was saying” because you’re ignoring what they just said and elaborating on your previously stated point. I didn’t have to mentally translate it to “as I was saying”, I just thought of it as the way some Japanese people might ignore somebody’s response and resume their point.
(Really hoping I didn’t actually misinterpret what it does, boy that would be embarrassing)

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>>20455906
So you finally understood Japanese is a language and not just a set of runes to write English with

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>>20455503
heres mine just did tyler kim and a couple flashcards

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>>20456212
I never thought of it that way, the opposite really. That knowing English makes it harder to learn Japanese because they’re so different and the tendency to think in English puts you at a disadvantage to even a Japanese toddler. when as it turns out that with deliberate selection and a bit of tweaking, you can make what you know in English help you learn Japanese (as opposed to not helping at all, or more even more commonly said, have your English get in the way)

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おはようおにいちゃん

>>20455122
はやたろう

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>>20456451
うるせえ、このバカ妹

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うんこ食べていこう

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>>20455025
>foreign workforce

wont they just switch to English since they do it more and more already because of tourists?

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>>20456610
I was there 20 years ago when I was a kid and from what I've seen they've somehow gotten worse since I was there

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>>20456667
I'm not sure if there will be any genuine japan in 20 years with Nipponese dying and foreigners popping more kids and bringing families with them

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>>20456610
American tourism to japan hasn't changed much in the past 30 years, most of their new tourism is chinese.
>>20456737
They were a population of 20 million people just a half century ago. They're 8x that today. And by the worst imagineable projections they'll be over 50 million in 100 years, but they're still an over 99% homogenized society. So basically everything you're saying is completely false. They're innovative and you wont see anything happen in your lifetime anyways.

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>>20456780
>So basically everything you're saying is completely false. They're innovative and you wont see anything happen in your lifetime anyways.

They already made rules for foreign workers easy this month. Ruling party wants the nonjap workers so much.

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>Learning Japanese Through Subculture: A History
>learning japanese to me isn't just about learning the vocabulary, the grammar, and having fun with it but also appreciating the socioeconomical contexts of the creation of these media we love and how people use the language
in that sense, i am merely beginning my study on jp
>the way i learned japanese also goes against many traditional ways (textbooks, anki/flashcards); i just went into visual novels and other stuff because they sound cool lol...
and here i am, tweeting relentlessly about japanese media; it's been a fun journey reflecting on it

is he based or just a pompous faggot?

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I was just talking with a Japanese who I knew on twitter, and he said this:
xxxパートは伏せといてください…
So I look up the meaning, is it the same as 秘密にしておく?

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>>20455318
There are literally two irregular verbs in the whole language and kuru is one of them. This is like the only time Japanese will be easier than other languages, be thankful.

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>>20456737
Yeah just like Russians don't exist now because they went through this 20 years ago.

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>>20457011
to be fair Russia goes through the exact same fertility crisis as rest of the western world and its rapid downward trend

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>>20456996
>two
What's the other one?

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>>20457023
It's almost as if it's natural consequence of building your society around the value of money and children being just a money sink that doesn't get you extra hands on the rice farm anymore because nobody works at rice farms.

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>>20456780
>They're innovative
Extremely underrated. The west solves a great deal of problems, but is really really fucking bad at social policy. China and Japan on the other hand aren’t. Westerns, seeing how unsuccessful their own social policies are, and, seeing the desperate attempts the UN makes to force “international standards” upon east Asia, can’t help but to assume it is an existential problem for them.

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>>20457031
Besides spooks like fulfillment, the only practical benefit to having kids now that comes to mind is that they’ll take care of you when you’re older, but in general the western world hates the idea of kids living with their parents or elderly parents living with their kids.

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>>20457047
>China and Japan on the other hand aren’t.
The fact that Chinese and Japanese people are trained from birth to not complain doesn't mean that they've defeated social problems through "innovation" or that they don't have them.

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>>20457056
>they'll take care of you
They'll just send you to old people's home to live on your own pension.

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https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/16/well/move/how-exercise-could-help-you-learn-a-new-language.html

i bought an exercise bike to aid me in learning japanese

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>>20457073
>Learning a second language as an adult is difficult
stopped reading there

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>>20457078

it is if you're a short attention span undisciplined normie. we are all autists here

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>>20457078
>>20457083
every adult with the motivation to learn japanese has already successfully learned japanese

that means if you're in this thread you either have no dedication or are an actual child

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>>20457096
You?

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>>20456780
たいわんじん

すごいしんせちゅだった

たいわんいきたい

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>>20457096
I'm in this thread to laugh at you

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どしてお前はまだ可愛い日本人の彼女出来ないのか

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>>20457135
it must be really sad to have access to the entire and unrestricted universe of all japanese media and still find shitposting in DJT to be more enjoyable than consuming any of it

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>>20457140
You too.
I don't disagree though that learning a language as an adult is easy, but you're trying to start something if you're saying he should be done by now already.

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>>20457146
it's also possible that he discovered the wide world of japanese media, like, this year, and has actually made reasonable progress but is not done primarily because it's very hard to learn japanese in six months.

but the vast majority of people in this thread and on 4chan knew what anime was before the year 2016 and don't get this excuse.

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>>20457139
ペラペラになる前デートが出来ないでしょう。おかしいよ。

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>>20457154
You better prove your fluent yourself before you're torn a new one, making all these assumptions based on anecdotal experience you don't even have yourself.

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>>20457169
i have extensive anecdotal experience of being an adult without enough motivation to learn japanese

but if i had motivation... watch out!

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>>20457172
そうそう、決意さえすれば何でも出来る。

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>>2045715
＞ペラペラ
どこで勉強したの？留学学やった？

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>>20457157
上は間違ったーーー

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>>20457178
そう、そう、わたしがやればできる子なんだから

やる気なくては残念でした

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Ore no djt ga konna ni kawaii wake ga nai

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>>20457188
えっ！？ちょっと、えぇぇ？勉強するスレで間違いがあった！？ウソだろう！？

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>>20457270
チゲーよ、番号は間違った

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>>20457278
ごめん、実は儂が出来ない人ですから

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>>20457289
ウソかよ、めっちゃ喋るじゃん
日本に住んでいるの？

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今日は日本語で多い投稿ある。
皆が稽古している?

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>>20457308
うん、今、東北の田舎に住んでいる。女性がなし、子供と年寄りだけいるもん。

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>>20457178
THAT'S RIGHT! Everyone, if you're determined then you can do it! You can learn Japanese!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fYoswOj5LpI

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does anyone know where I can find the とても優しい games on jamals gay ass vn list?

or just rarer older vns for that matter

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>>20457427
The easiest games are stuff like Smash where there's barely anything to read anyway.
Do you like Zelda? Phantom Hourglass, Spirit Tracks, OoT 3DS, and Majora's Mask 3DS all have furigana systems.

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>>2045733
笑笑笑めっちゃ可哀そう、あそこの楽しいことは何？

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>>20457467
>笑笑笑
>not www

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>>20457467
将棋と芋煮会ｗ

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>>20457483
ｉｍｏｕｔｏ煮会？

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>>20457473
however long it took you to write this it was a waste of study time anon



but you're right

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>>20457483
じゃあ自殺しようかな～

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>>20457441
Windwaker has furigana too.

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>>20457515
いもにかい

じゃが芋を食べる会。東北で人気なの

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>>20457581
じゃがいもはおでんにはいりますか

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皆が何やっている？

俺はグラディウスIIやっている。
上手じゃないのに、楽しい。

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>>20457588
そうです、たいてい肉と他の野菜で汁で出来る。

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わたしはゲイです

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>>20457626
4面で失ってしまった。。。
火山嫌うぞ。

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去年のクリスマス
僕は君にハートを捧げたんだ
でも君は次の日にそれを捨て去った
今年は
涙を流さないように
僕はそれを特別な人にあげるんだ

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>>20458057
それは歌？

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>彼が知らん

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>>20458057
カスカダ大好きだ。

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また、まだ、and もう confuse me and I keep forgetting which one means which in what circumstance.

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>mining deck runs out of words
>get some new words from core for the first time in a few months
>example sentences which used to be complete gibberish both in terms of reading them and comprehending the audio
>can now understand all of it

They're basic as shit but it's progress I guess

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>>20457573
I'm already windmaker

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y-xT00hUuKQ
Kiyotaka Sugiyama's music is so fucking amazing. I can't remember the last time I liked literally every single song I hear by someone. Holy fuck it's so good.

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you prolly like every single song because theyre all the same song

not a dig at whether or not its good just bein objective

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>>20458587
Yeah I can see that, there is less variance among the songs than with most other artists but I wouldn't say they're all the same.

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Not only can you learn japanese, it's easy, and fun. Sit back and smile as you experience another world.

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>>20455025
>Culturally rich
>anime, instant ramen, karate

based

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in another world you can learn japanese

just not this one

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make that into an isekai

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英語を便球するは頑張ってね～

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think about this: every single jap can speak japanese, even those with a 70 point IQ. they had to learn it and were able to, why can't you?

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>>20458714
I can and I will. Those japs took over 18 years to become fluent. I have just started a year ago

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>>20458720
It doesn't take 18 years to become fluent in your native language dude

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>>20458714
Spoiler is you can, just takes some time, but it's pretty easy. I know kanji, over 3k words, can read yotsuba, and understand the majority of content I watch already... I'm at 5 months 2 weeks in. I'll be fluent af in a year.

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>>20458735
A bit more subtlety next time and you might get someone to fall for it

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>>20458729
Depends on where you put the fluency bar.
If communicating basic ideas with your peers "fluency" then sure, a 12 year old is fluent. But can they write an essay about anything at that level?

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I think one of the problems people face in aquisition is people still think you need to memorize and remember the language. A better way of thinking of it is you need to imagine the language. Imagine the kanji. Imagine seeing it in your manga, imagine someone showing it to you, the images you are creating are like wires in your brain.

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>>20458745
...yes? Did you not write essays at that age in school? But I see your point, your level of fluency is also defined by the stage of intellectual development you are currently in.

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>>20458793
Nigga shut the fuck up

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>>20458807
Now say that in japanese

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>>20458825
黙って

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>>20458825
ニガ シュト デ FUCK アプ

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>>20457027
suru sitai dekiru
theres some other minor things but suru and kuru are the most significant
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_irregular_verbs
>>20457139
mada itiban tuyoi gaijin ni naritai
>>20457441
>where there's barely anything to read anyway.
youre not fuckin learning much then are you
>>20458688
shit get my ペン
>>20458745
to my understanding fluency doesnt even imply literacy let alone whatever youre expecting out of their essays
the most important part of fluency in my opinion is being easily able to ask about and have explained new concepts
if youre not ready to understand those concepts yet is unrelated

by the way minasan todays nihongo word of the day is ペン you are now one step closer to fluency

[Anonymous No.]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5SgzHv961bg

[Anonymous No.]

>>20458947
That looks terrible. How does she have so many subs

[Anonymous No.]

No clue
I've seen some people claiming some weird things about her and her mother's past but I really don't know

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>>20458947
engrish isnt nihongo get this shit out of here and post rap

[Anonymous No.]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VrSwEsucAJM
No. But put this in the next op

[Anonymous No.]

im surprised i havent been banned yet but if i did that it might happen
did she just say titty at 14 seconds

[Anonymous No.]

instead the next op should combine our favorite interests
rap and shitty anime
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HSyAOtNeWpE

[Anonymous No.]

Not sure how I can explain it...
How do you start typing in Japanese logic?
I don't mean the grammar or anything, I mean that when I read how a Japanese person would say something, it is very different from how I would have said it despite we both are making correct sentences.

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>>20459033
I only watch high brow anime like SAO and Tokyo Ghoul

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>>20459049
It takes years and years and you will likely never be able to completely mimic how a native speaks

[Anonymous No.]

>>20459065
Well fuck.
Guess I will just have to mimic expressions and make up my own with shitty English logic untill I don't see more common ways.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20459049
Hmm that goes away over time pretty quick. When I read comments on youtube they're all 90% how I would say it. Only difference is they know more vocab but everything else like the order of words and grammar is as expected.

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>>20459049
you get closer to mimicking natives by hearing or reading what natives say and write for thousands and thousands of hours while your brain builds up a model of what kinds of things natives say
i dont imagine theres anything else you can do so just relax and read more

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>>20459078
Don't get me wrong, if you are a beginner, what >>20459079 said is correct. You'll get a feel for the basics in this regard relatively quickly. I'm referring to more advanced mastery.

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>>20459079
>>20459094
>>20459097
I see.
Guess it's a thing of subconscious patterns that cannot be explained and will just eventually get ingrained in my mind.

On a different note, I feel like my input/output ratio is unbalanced since I almost never type, write or speak in Japanese.
I know you can find Japanese *everywhere*, but do you have any suggestions?
Japanese is a language so to learn it properly I am supposed to actively speak it after all.

[Anonymous No.]

Go out to eat sushi with friend who lived in japan and claimed he knew japanese. After doing real japanese studying for past 6 months I dscovered he was terrible.
>塩 = He said shO
>布団 = He said futAAn
>味噌汁 = miZO soup
>酒 = saKI
There was dozens of other mistakes. I spent the whole night correcting him. I wonder how the japanese people tolerated him.. he's retarded in japanese.

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>>20459192
I mean, Japanese people do realize foreigners won't know their language perfectly most of the times.

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>>20459175
boy you need krashen https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NiTsduRreug
talking makes you better at the part where you make noises with your mouth but you learn what to say and what sounds wrong from listening and reading
>>20459192
>I spent the whole night correcting him.
why

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>>20459213
What about typing/writing tho

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>>20459223
same concept youll get used to ime shortcuts and type faster or youll get nicer handwriting

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>>20459213
It was just crazy he lived there for 4 years and I already speak it better than him after 6 months. I had to hit him with that fact. Plus I can't stand people being retarded and not knowing it, feels cruel to not say something.

[Anonymous No.]

https://eastasiastudent.net/study/20-rules-learning/
If you going to anki do it like this

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>>20459049
obviously you just have to memorize how they communicate things. i hate circlejerking faggot retard question posts like yours. here's your (you)

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>>20459256
good luck but hell probably just continue making excuses about how japanese is the hardest language in the world and you must be some fuckin autist or maybe you got that natural language learning talent or maybe what do you know you havent lived next to nihonjin for 4 years maybe youre the one thats wrong
people gotta want it in the first place and if you push hard they are usually less likely to be receptive

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>>20459289
Yup, all true, he'll probably continue saying everything wrong too.. he "feels" right so he doesn't care to fix any of the fossilized retardations. Americans usually can't tell so he'll just pretend he's fluent when I could surpass him in a month. In the end he's just mentally lazy. Sorry to blog it on here but I thought you guys might want to know we're doing good work here because you guys basically taught me how to learn it.

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>>20459213
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NiTsduRreug
That sounds right, but where one finds this kind of input?

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>>20459361
You have to make it comprehensible. That's the trickiest part about starting off. I recommend context focused srs. Add your own pics to all of the cards and maybe sentences and audio too. Imagination helps. Type #sentence after the word on jisho, for getting sentences.
Reading is really the best possible way, but you also want it to be comfortable. Do you.

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>>20459361
he says elsewhere that more work needs to be put into creating such material but you dont need it to be so optimal
personally i think it being so easy that its artificial is also a potential concern
with a pretty small vocabulary and some dictionary usage you can make do with real media because interest is the most important factor and you dont need to understand everything
if you understand enough of what youre reading to want to keep reading it but its also not so easy that you arent finding very much in it thats new to you then youre doing fine
every sentence that means something to you gives you a tiny bit of progress while sentences that dont mean anything to you were just a small waste of time no big deal if you didnt spend 10 minutes trying to force an understanding of something too far above your level

[Anonymous No.]

How do I into making Anki decks for Kanji? What should put in the front and back of the cards?

[Anonymous No.]

wtf guys stop writing walls of text

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>>20459474
front 漢字
back かんじ[0] 中国で作られ、日本などでも使われている表語文字。
or back かんじ[0] chinese house
or back かんじ[0]
or back かんじ

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>>20459033
picked up thx my ninja

[Anonymous No.]

Tae Kim fuck these niggas up.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20459474
Do you expect us to learn the kanji for you too? There is more than enough information in this thread alone to answer that question.

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>>20459033
shitty rap and anime*

[Anonymous No.]

just wait til i get fed up with you scrubs and debut as krashner you wont be callin rap shitty then

[Anonymous No.]

How do I know which reading to give a kanji?

[Anonymous No.]

a dictionary

[Anonymous No.]

How do I into radicals?

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>>20459542
Just a reminder that if you used the Tae Kim's site, he has traced your location and he's now hacking your PC to read all your Japanese sentences.
If he finds a grammar mistake, he's sending some chinks to your house to rape you.

>>20459704
Alone = Kunyomi
Multiple = Onyomi

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>>20459712
>Alone = Kunyomi
>Multiple = Onyomi

ahh, sounds simple. thanks

[Anonymous No.]

>>20459704
learn the language.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20459721
Not actually this simple, but there aren't real fixed rules other than this really

[Anonymous No.]

>>20459704
You should recognise words, not kanji. If you recognise the word you know how it's read.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20459721
thats just the best guess you have remember to check your dictionary

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>>20459721
theres many rules like that and then theres exception to every rule like that, so that's why it's so important to get exposure to native content more than anything. We could spend all day explaining those rules or you could just experience them yourself and intuitively learn things easily.

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>>20459721
It has a ton of exceptions though. For example 日曜日 which is on on kun readings

[Anonymous No.]

does this place fill up with retards on january 1st?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20459772
No, that's perfectly normal here.

[Anonymous No.]

when i post less the retards post more is all

i have less than half a dozen posts in this thread is mostly the reason its so bad

[Anonymous No.]

I'm going to go full 100% immersion on the 1st. I've been doing about 75% and can def tell the effect on the days where I do more japanese. I have about 3 months so I"m going to try to push myself to total monolingual for those rediculous Khatz gains of legend. I'll be back in april to report how well it worked.

[Anonymous No.]

so this is the power of the j-cat

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[Anonymous No.]

>>20459815
>>20459830
Wow I understand everything without consulting the dictionary, did I make it?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20459815
Why the fuck did she turn into a jade? I fucking hate old japanese stories.

[Anonymous No.]

who /duolingo/ chad here

[Anonymous No.]

>>20459871
The guy's wife turned her into a jade probably.

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>>20459859
congrats according to the jcat you're n4

[Anonymous No.]

?????????

[Anonymous No.]

meanwhile the things that are supposed to be hard are actually extremely easy

was this test designed for children

[Anonymous No.]

going to retake it with a second email address but stuff all the intro questions with "yeah man i'm the best" to see how it affects the questions it gives me

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>>20459815
I knew all of the words, even knew ヒスイ because its a common word in hearthstone. I still didn't quiet understand the meaning in the sentence though, I had to write it all out for it to make sense. I need to read more I guess.

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>>20459952
>because its a common word in hearthstone

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>>20459909
What the hell does this mean. Children learn songs and dances after 6th of July? Moreover they don't speak in loud voices in front of people?

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>>20459793
there is some truth to this but dont get cocky kid
>>20459802
what did he mean by this

minasan stop posting japanese with spaces

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>>20459952
it's honestly hilarious because you can read and listen to japanese for a long time and never realize that ヒスイ means jade but they decided to make it central to this question that's full of common words in kana and 美しい with furigana like what the fuck
>>20459964
the nature of japanese culture is truly impossible to comprehend
i though i understood it but then i got to the questions and it's as though none of them have anything to do with what i was reading. why is the kid learning these songs, what's with the symbolism of the number 6, how the fuck does "he's learning these songs and dances and playing a lot but still being good and studying quietly" result in any of the answers given.

the quote on quote academic questions with adult vocabulary are honestly orders of magnitude easier to understand and answer

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>>20457626
SurvivedByやってる

賛否両論だけどたのしい

[Anonymous No.]

>>20459998
well they took the time to define it at the start with 美しい緑の色の石, so you could probably figure it out from that.

[Anonymous No.]

https://streamable.com/h3g6y

[Anonymous No.]

Hey, kids! Just finally got home from a 忘年会 and it's nearly five in the morning and I'm blasted. Hope your studying is going well. You can do handle this shit! Knock it out, get over here, and live your dreams.

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>>20460028
gets me every time
go get em kaufmann 俺も

[Anonymous No.]

>kana and kanji look beautiful on firefox
>look like shit on chrome
how to fix

[Anonymous No.]

uninstall chrome
maybe compare font settings between the two

[Anonymous No.]

>>20460019
have you ever heard of metaphor
this isn't a question i actually had trouble with btw it's just a very poor choice, they probably shouldn't pick reading comprehension questions meant for japanese children when making a test meant for non-japanese adults

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>>20459970
whats there to get cocky about

its like tryin to tell dj khaled to not get cocky after he dropped we the best

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>>20460055
being dumb as a language learner is perfectly normal but lets not pretend that makes it hard i mean look at it again
新潟では緑色の美しい石、ヒスイがとれます。
if you misunderstood this it is not the fault of the wording

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>>20460078
yeah youre right its too late youre full block cock always out at this point

[Anonymous No.]

>>20460083
>this isn't a question i actually had trouble with btw

[Anonymous No.]

I can't believe Speedwagon's fucking dead

[Anonymous No.]

>>20460083
Hisui (woman) is a beautiful green stone (gem) who lives in Niigata. She takes pictures.

[Anonymous No.]

How many cards should I be doing a day?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20460122
zero

[Anonymous No.]

0 or a negative number effectively undoing cards to permanently uncripple your chances at learning nihongo

[Anonymous No.]

>>20460111
thats cool i was making a general statement because were discussing if there is anything wrong with the wording not if it was hard for you
>>20460119
>She takes pictures.

[Anonymous No.]

toiredewa im toremasuing a utukushii green shit

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>>20460135
i think there's something wrong with it being written like it's for little japanese kids yes

>ヒスイという緑色の美しい石が・は新潟で取れます。

this wording is a lot more normal and something an adult might actually say (が vs は being determined by context)

[Anonymous No.]

dolly chan sensei cryin android tears at that post

[Anonymous No.]

the only tears dolly chan cries are tears of her and her husband jamal not knowing japanese

[Anonymous No.]

If I start studying today and am consistent for a whole year, will I be able to read and speak anything worth while at the end of the 365? Planning on a glorious Nihon trip in 2020.

[Anonymous No.]

ahem https://vocaroo.com/i/s1XiDGLYtzE6

[Anonymous No.]

you don't know nihongo dude sorry

[Anonymous No.]

prove it

[Anonymous No.]

そちらの能力を証明せよ

[Anonymous No.]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jm2sJGvaiJc#t=124

[Anonymous No.]

>>20460158
i know you want to roleplay an expert so advanced you cant understand baby japanese but stop outputting before you hurt yourself
>>20460194
use your own words and make them nihongo

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>>20460200
joke's on you, that was written by a native speaker of japanese

[Anonymous No.]

epic bait success when i said dolly was crying android tears they were tears of joy

found the idiot who doesnt know japanese

now go the fuck upstairs fore i break ur fucken jaw

[Anonymous No.]

簡単な日本語すらできない

[Anonymous No.]

>>20460207
now this is an epic post

[Anonymous No.]

>>20460202
big if true
>>20460207
youre gonna have to learn to speak for yourself sometime tomodati

[Anonymous No.]

I really want to go to Japan because anime is real over there.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20460226
heres your consolatory you

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pxjZM-d_ShI#t=8

[Anonymous No.]

>>20460240
swag niko jacket
>>20460241
so mad your dumps arent even japanese anymore

[Anonymous No.]

whenever i try to bait jamal into saying something in japanese he doesnt do it because he thinks im just gonna pretend there's something wrong with it but in reality im just testing his mettle and making sure he still knows what's up

i literally copy paste long japanese stuff from twitter with 10+ hits on google in quotes and people say its wrong even though it's stuff that japanese people actually say

don't trust djt for specific guidance, just get good enough at japanese to find other people who know more japanese than you to ask personally

[Anonymous No.]

>>20460240
what's going on there?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20460252
actually i am just always claiming the matt defense dude

https://streamable.com/f43ix

[Anonymous No.]

it's ok if it's a performance dude there's nothing cringe about getting a little histrionic and dunking on fake experts

[Anonymous No.]

>>20460241
mid 2000s rap is cancer
>>20460256
a man with the katana exposes love live fan

[Anonymous No.]

I think I will get better in Japanese if I unlearn English.

Time to become an ESL.

[Anonymous No.]

nah dude i learned how to dunk from romeo

its all about the slow roll

[Anonymous No.]

summarize one thing romeo has written

[Anonymous No.]

boy meets girl

[Anonymous No.]

boy meets tree

[Anonymous No.]

you got me

[Anonymous No.]

also jesus

[Anonymous No.]

絆の傷は

[Anonymous No.]

Boy meets evil

[Anonymous No.]

ahh romeo

doko art nanji romeo

*cums evyerhwere*

[Anonymous No.]

the most nihongo youve ever dropped

[Anonymous No.]

sorry i had to hurt you like that before but its about to be 2019 and somebody needs to start pullin weebs again

[Anonymous No.]

>>20457139
俺のことって白人じゃねえし...

[Anonymous No.]

why do you think my fronting had anything to do with your post thats what im wondering
have you not seen me front unprompted
youre getting a little too into this father son thing you got goin on its weird

[Anonymous No.]

If he did it so can you!

[Anonymous No.]

俺もやったんだからよ

[Anonymous No.]

>>20460333
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u0EmTP7QGcM#t=120

>>20460341
got dang it not again the sadness comes and so do i

[Anonymous No.]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4TkWgSfs1jE
If you can read this your japanese is at average level

[Anonymous No.]

>>20459322
He's white isn't he?

[Anonymous No.]

今ウンコ一本作りました

[Anonymous No.]

Do you guys write down vocab/kanji as you do your first pass of new cards?
I've been doing it and i'm not sure if it's wasting my time at this point.

[Anonymous No.]

よあけまえのにほんから

おにいちゃんにしつもんがあります

おなかがいたいときの

おくすりはなにがいいですか

[Anonymous No.]

>>20460240
This is 台湾.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20460469
>朝天门
thats not taiwan is it
either way its a good post

[Anonymous No.]

約束のネバーランドは

みるかもしれない

[Anonymous No.]

>>20459815
All of the hiragana and word spaces are fucking with my brain. I've spent the last year and a half getting used to reading native material. Then on the test they try to trick you with this "seemingly dumbed-down but actually harder for no reason" gaijinized bullshit?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20460524
i can handle excessive hiragana usually but the spaces really slow me down is this my punishment for not starting with pokemon

[Anonymous No.]

>>20460428
of course, that sort of arrogance could come from none other

[Anonymous No.]

ってな感じで…

what does it mean when this stands at the begeinning of a sentence.

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>20460545
so called feeling from

[Anonymous No.]

>>20460261
He actually made sense saying you should learn from natives but saying speaking japanese with foreigners is cringe just comes across as an overly bullied weeb. I knew foreigners who spoke german, french, spanish together, the fact he's so sensative about japanese shows a weak character. He should do what he want's without worrying about looking like "cringe at the end of the day".. and the irony of this guy with manga on his walls, or the cringe as fuck room tour video, eating lunch on toilets, "hunting" exchange students, or the numerous posts about wanting to be japanese, etc.

[Anonymous No.]

haha yea bless his lil heart

[Anonymous No.]

>>20460579
>saying speaking japanese with foreigners is cringe
thats not what he said im sure he argues en nihongo about who is going to be itiban tuyoi with blondie and doesnt think thats cringe
he said demonstrating that hes knows anything to an audience of people who cant tell either way is cringe
or talking about nihongo en nihongo but the focus was the idea of making videos in japanese
rest of your post is accurate

[Anonymous No.]

in a misguided attempt to avoid being cringe, he became mega cringe

like 雨 on a 結婚式の日

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>>20460442
this is a good image so i shall bless you with my wisdom
nihongo is all about time spent doing real language abilities vs time spent preparing to do the former
anything you do in anki counts as prep work and it should take as little time as possible
even if writing stuff down in anki might make you remember it better it is absolutely not worth the time it takes to do it for everything you add to anki. if you're going to do it at all you should limit it to things that you think you're going to have trouble with.

[Anonymous No.]

i swear this dude cant pick a posting style thats the only thing consistent

[Anonymous No.]

nah dude its pretty consistently shit

[Anonymous No.]

which one of you lowercase retards is jamal

[Anonymous No.]

if you cant tell that you need to step up your game

[Anonymous No.]

accept no imitations

わたしは本物ゲイ

[Anonymous No.]

>>20456268
>>20456467
>>20457904
>>20458587
>>20458683
>>20459489
>>20459793
>>20460028
>>20460078
>>20460130
>>20460145
>>20460163
>>20460172
>>20460180
>>20460207
>>20460241
>>20460261
>>20460279
>>20460286
>>20460292
>>20460310
>>20460316
>>20460353
>>20460609
>>20460681
>>20460724
how many

[Anonymous No.]

id consider that a passing score

[Anonymous No.]

this thread has been easy mode so it means nothing
im more interested in what i missed than what i got wrong

[Anonymous No.]

Am I supposed to be making Anki cards for the kanji that's being thrown at me in the Tae Kim guide?

[Anonymous No.]

im not gonna go thru and look to see what all posts were mine but i think u actually got em all

[Anonymous No.]

oh wait u didnt quote this 1 which is pretty ftl >>20460553

[Anonymous No.]

oh shit howd i miss that
i was a little tense on this section >>20460286 >>20460292 but i gambled on fastest post

[Anonymous No.]

ya did good bruv *pats ur head*

[Anonymous No.]

what can i say you like attention so you make it easy the real surprise is that anyone would be confused

[Anonymous No.]

its not the attention im after thats just a byproduct from where my true enjoyment lies

[Anonymous No.]

>>20460766
anyone?

[Anonymous No.]

no but it would help to learn them

[Anonymous No.]

Is there a such a thing as a "let's read" or something? Would be great to "read" alongside a native and get the right pronunciation for everything in a manga.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20460641
I'll cut back on it and limit it to stuff i have to hit the "again" button on.
Thanks for the advice anon.

[Anonymous No.]

This book any good?

[Anonymous No.]

good for takin tard money

[Anonymous No.]

Do you ever get irrationally upset when a song in any language other than english or japanese plays. I was listening to future funk and a chinese or whatever song came on and I am still deeply disturbed.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20461094
Only if it's spanish, what a disgusting vulgar language that is.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20461094
doesnt bother me i enjoy embracing the world https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H2hGrsExuyc#t=4

[Anonymous No.]

>>20460949
its called an audiobook good luck

[Anonymous No.]

>>20460949
manga is not reading.

[Anonymous No.]

shitting is not posting and yet here we are

[Anonymous No.]

In real life, how can I tell the difference between ううん and うん?

[Anonymous No.]

use mimis

[Anonymous No.]

>>20461134
tone and nonverbal cues

[Anonymous No.]

>>20460240
who won

[Anonymous No.]

Hey friends, what does this phrase translate to?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20461431
Forgot pic

[Anonymous No.]

its equivalent to the loanword iku

[Anonymous No.]

could literally be anything

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t035_8aHY1Q

[Anonymous No.]

feelin the holiday spirit

[Anonymous No.]

>>20461436
I think that ones chinese not japanese

[Anonymous No.]

big if true

[Anonymous No.]

>>20461436
>行く
>to go
>to move (in a direction or towards a specific location)
>to head (towards)
>to be transported (towards)
>to reach
it's just the verb for go

[Anonymous No.]

there u go u roped ur dope i hope ure happy

[Anonymous No.]

no actually it translates more accurately to iku

[Anonymous No.]

hello, very noob here, this is a grammatically way correct to ask someone to study at library on sunday?

日曜日に図書館で勉強しませんか

thx

[Anonymous No.]

>>20461535
if nobody starts making fun of you then it's fine

[Anonymous No.]

i dont know japanese but sounds to me like asking if theyll study not if theyll join you so maybe go for 勉強しよう（か） or insert yourself あたしと

[Anonymous No.]

i'm gonna suspend the だらけ card in the grammar deck guys cuz i keep forgetting it and i don't feel like it should be high on my priority list

[Anonymous No.]

>>20461535
sounds a bit passive aggressive.

[Anonymous No.]

lets library

[Anonymous No.]

>>20461586
just watch dolly also
>grammar deck
>>20461597
mina san lets nihon go

[Anonymous No.]

>>20461603
i watched most of the videos in her recent series but i should probably rewatch them soon to help cement it all.

[Anonymous No.]

hows about u play hide and nihon go fuck urself : )

[Anonymous No.]

get em out if u got em boys

genkis in the chat

[Anonymous No.]

mina san lets nihon go fuck ourselves

[Anonymous No.]

>>20461616
>in the chat
disgusting

[Anonymous No.]

im practicing 4 when i start my new life as an eceleb

[Anonymous No.]

I'm going to create the sequel to remembering the kanji, it's called imagening the kanji

[Anonymous No.]

whats new about it
that guy some dude keeps sayin is you probably isnt far off aside from bein a cultist and all

[Anonymous No.]

thanks for the sub welcome to the cult welcome man hows it going thank u really appreciate it

[Anonymous No.]

Okay why is noone directly replying to any posts?

[Anonymous No.]

read the kuki

[Anonymous No.]

I'd never have found motivation to do flashcards if it weren't for ******att's videos. Even if he throws in useless distractions in his guidance, he's a powerful motivational figure in the community and we should be grateful.

[Anonymous No.]

its good that you know your way around the system i cant imagine the trash you watch

were practicing for chatrooms whats your deal

[Anonymous No.]

This Christmas I'm planning to start reading. What light novels would you all recommend?

[Anonymous No.]

someone post matts powerful motivation to have no friends so you dont miss out on the experience of devoting yourself fully
we should be grateful

[Anonymous No.]

speaking of matt

haha hey matt here you know whats really cringe i mean besides my neckbeard receding hairline bedroom with manga and cartoons plastered all over it piss jug the fact i went to japan to live the high school dream only to eat toilet meshi and do flashcards instead my authoritative tone about things i have no idea about my wikipedia math all the material i parrot and try to pass off as my own my racist tendencies my blog from like 8 years ago where i said i wanted a japanese girlfriend that muramasa vid lmao that time i said "itchaban tsuyoee gaijeem ni nawitai" that time i said smugly that talking japanese for guyjims is just too cringe for me that time toilet head came over and i bottomed for him that time i tried to talk shit about jorge the japones from cero guy who was kindly patient with my autism that time i shit all over some kid irl about how hes learning japanese wrong and im the best and then talked about it on the internet and last but not least that time i realized i dont even like anything from japan and have no use for a language i dedicated my entire seisyun to and defined my existence by how great i was at learning it (in my mind) ?

this guy >>20460200

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>>20461695
>>20461710
no one mentioned this guy. stop advertising.

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>20461710
hey now

[Anonymous No.]

i knew u were here so i had to go for another ez jam on u

no hard feelings

[Anonymous No.]

its all good but can you at least own me in nihongo so i can learn a thing or two

[Anonymous No.]

this is the best and worst i can offer u

[Anonymous No.]

ive kept that since the day you made it bruv whatd you change do i have to compare

[Anonymous No.]

i havent changed it but every time i look at it i remember games i coulda put if there was more room

[Anonymous No.]

how much meditating til he realizes everything is kinda of cringy, not just anime and japan, the grass always looks greener on the others side, and in the end he's just a weak willed human being?

[Anonymous No.]

i didnt remember the black line after v69 so i got to relive the shittiness like it was new

what are you on about with his weak will

[Anonymous No.]

>>20455094

[Anonymous No.]

o thats when i wrote rance in there cuz i was like wow how could i forget good old rance

that was a pretty early revisoin

[Anonymous No.]

easy to see after actually looking at it again
i remember like 4 dudes talkin about 優しい

[Anonymous No.]

its a good category esp because i capped it off w. school days

also actually dude here u go special treat from my personal vault

behold a true rance gamer https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=50IDvygK0gk

[Anonymous No.]

i enjoy my gentle hentai games

[Anonymous No.]

whats your feel on the remakes i know youre really into that old shit

[Anonymous No.]

theres like maybe 1 remake in the history of remakes i think is good and its the green green remake

[Anonymous No.]

and the mock pc98 remake of yu-no dlc

[Anonymous No.]

thats it though i hate everything else for sure

[Anonymous No.]

Instant noodle prep guide. The basic should be same as any but in case there is something different.

[Anonymous No.]

its a lot of hate to bear but id probably feel the same if i was that old
youll be the first to know if i play it but dont hold it against me that ill use the port unless you want to donate a pc98

[Anonymous No.]

itsuwari osore kyoshoku urei

[Anonymous No.]

just find something u feel compelled by and go for it

worse than the disdain i feel for everything is the thought that kids these days might not ever get the chance to even feel compelled in the 1st place

[Anonymous No.]

its def hard to be compelled in this new world
saya no uta has been on my list for a while maybe ill do that

[Anonymous No.]

>国を民主化してほしいと言って天安門広場に集まっていた学生や市民を軍が銃で撃ったりして、たくさんの人が亡くなりました。
Although the country wished to democratize, students and towns people who had gathered at the public square were shot at by armed forces and many people died.

Did I understand this sentence?

[Anonymous No.]

sayas good but its also gross

its still prolly the best urobutcher has 2 offer imo

[Anonymous No.]

youre talkin about more than the flesh walls
got me wonderin what im gettin into

[Anonymous No.]

>>20462091
the fleshy backdrop is nothin compared to the actual fucked up shit in it dude

[Anonymous No.]

cut that out baka

[Anonymous No.]

better dim and blur the gore

[Anonymous No.]

thanks for the 9 months in a row can we give this guy some genkis in the chat welcome back man thank u

[Anonymous No.]

you make it sound better than it is remember to roleplay mpreg

[Anonymous No.]

>>20462053
The students and citizens who said they wanted to democratize the country and gathered in Tianenmen Square were shot at by armed forces and many people died.

[Anonymous No.]

Reminder that jamal was the sole reason we were kicked off /a/ and left here to rot.

[Anonymous No.]

what is the significance of using katakana here: シてくれる ?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20462433
れうど！れうど！

[Anonymous No.]

>>20462405
my response to this fact
https://streamable.com/aedo4

[Anonymous No.]

thats also how i feel after fronting yall should be ashamed

[Anonymous No.]

Hey I got some names and I was wondering what they read as.
深見 智代子
林原 日菜
穂積 颯輔
井上 結愛
佐島 陽平
末原 颯真
高宮 安彦

[Anonymous No.]

minna

genki?

[Anonymous No.]

genkikunai

[Anonymous No.]

When did you lads start to write out characters?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20462997
When some kid asked if I could write kanji and I went to the blackboard and wrote 出米る and the teacher laughed at me.

[Anonymous No.]

「儂がおらんとなんにもできんのか。まったく、嘆かわしい。ミルクのお代わりいるか？　少しなら甘いもんもあるが」
what is that らんとなん?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20460998
>training
>for JLPT N5

[Anonymous No.]

omae no shitsumon should be que es oran homie

[Anonymous No.]

Is there a more colloquial way of saying "more X" than 「の方がX」? It's a mouthful to say. Can't you just say もっと?
>このゲームがもっと楽しそう
>This game looks more fun (than the other one)

[Anonymous No.]

>>20462733
>深見 智代子
Fumi Chiyoko
>林原 日菜
Hayashiyara Hina
Too lazy to do the rest

[Anonymous No.]

>>20463287
Yori

[Anonymous No.]

>>20463646
Thats more like less than though and is actually even more of a mouthful if you want to state what you're talking about rather thab leaving it to context

[Anonymous No.]

>>20463682
You have to accept some things

>Japanese takes a lot of syllables to say some simple shit
>Sometimes you just have to leave it to context and hope for the best if you're looking for short

より is definitely the right tool for this

[Anonymous No.]

>>20458735
>>20460949
Manga isn't reading though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20463682
Ok, instead maybe mark the interesting game with Ha instead of ga and change the motto to a chotto. Wrap that up with a to omou kedo and then the jap will also think that your nihongo ga jouzu ne

[Anonymous No.]

>>20464363
Why do you act the way you do

[Anonymous No.]

>>20464374
I think you’re mistakening me for somebody else, I’ve only made a couple posts itt

[Anonymous No.]

Would someone actually name their daughter 万子?

[Anonymous No.]

lmao

[Anonymous No.]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TOv3voBcEv8
watch teh dolly

[Anonymous No.]

Its actually impossible to know how a name is read without being told, this is to prevent witches from easily getting your name and taking advantage of you using it, for examples of this in media check out studio jibbly's masterpiece Spirited Away or the eroge sensation thats sweeping the nation Fate/Stay Night.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20455025
Something for novel readers.
https://mega.nz/#F!8AMFgC4B!j7z7xvpqaDb1fXhc4UuolA

Contains all of the novels on the itazuraneko.neocities.org website, in epub format, including the newer work in progress expansion to the novel library.
It was just updated with another ~1400 volumes not yet added to the site, taken from Amazon. The original .azw and .azw.res files for those can be found in the folder labelled "azw".

[Anonymous No.]

>>20464872
Have a merry Christmas, god-tier anon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20464872
>>20464879

[Anonymous No.]

クリスマスってなにするの？

とりたべるの？

[Anonymous No.]

>>20464872
Fuck yes fuck yes fuck yes fuck yes fuck yes fuck yes thank you thank you thank you

[Anonymous No.]

>>20464906
あたしはクリスマスに彼女の万子を食べる

[Anonymous No.]

>atasi

[Anonymous No.]

あたい

[Anonymous No.]

someone please identify this for me

[Anonymous No.]

I'm trying to use 時 as a noun in order to write "battle time" in kanji but then I realized that I'm not sure if the Kanji order matter when writing short sentences.
I have seen instances of this and how people translate to English, so if I'm not mistaken 時線 could either mean "time battle" or "battle time".
What do you think?

[Anonymous No.]

おなかすいた

みかんたべたい

[Anonymous No.]

>（少年斥候）ってな感じで…
>突然 現れた勇者が―
>魔神の手下たちを
>一撃でやっつけたって！

>And just like that, the Hero appeared and defeated all of the Demon >Lord's minions!

ってな感じで…
why is this translated as:
>And just like that,

[Anonymous No.]

>>20465133
The word you’re looking for is sortie

[Anonymous No.]

Can anyone recommend me a super chunni VN or something to get listening+reading practice on? Of the anime I'm watching this season, everything is really comfortable for me except for the new season of Index. I get lost easily in all the stupid terminology and bizarre way they speak.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20465133
>>20465663
I actually wanted to use those particular kanji because of the way can be read but I wasn't sure if for a native Japanese speaker would read it the way it's intended.

[Anonymous No.]

does anybody have an app idea for learning japanese. I want to make an app but have no ideas. maybe an app reader for the djt library but that might have legal issues. any ideas?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20465820
Between Ankidroid and Jade Reader I honestly don't know what else could I ever need. A manga reader that'd recognise written lines so that individual words can be translated on tap maybe? Or there's something like that out there, I have no idea.

[Anonymous No.]

承
wtf this is such a nice looking kanji

[Anonymous No.]

Are there Yukio Mishima's books in Japanese in some e-library? I can't find any.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20464582
you cant say that
>>20464842
based
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TOv3voBcEv8&t=494
etti kamo
>>20464872
rare good post
>>20465876
some kanji just give you an ii kanji

[Anonymous No.]

>>20460036
switch everything to nippongo

[Anonymous No.]

get out your ii, kanjitachis

[Anonymous No.]

who's the most accessible real novel author that isn't murakami?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20466113
Reki Kawahara

[Anonymous No.]

>>20466113
Tsukasa Fushimi

[Anonymous No.]

>>20466113
のぶみ

[Anonymous No.]

https://youtu.be/1m67mE64JPA

>not a cult

[Anonymous No.]

does that ninja have kanji on his wall

holy shit lmao

[Anonymous No.]

isnt that pretty common for cultists even before the newest cult leader appeared
those things cost like twenty to thirty bucks too good way to make some cash off of them

[Anonymous No.]

How do you express the abstract idea of "the" in Japanese?

Random example, "The dogs are asleep". Implying that you know which dogs they are, but not implying that we own the dogs, and not stating just any dogs in general. In that example, 犬は寝ています is too vague for what I'm trying to express.

[Anonymous No.]

lmao how does this happen

https://streamable.com/ay43z

yalls generation is fucked

[Anonymous No.]

>>20466151
based and redpilled.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20466191
he was actually talking about how much money he spent on it in another video where he was bragging about his commitment to japanese

meanwhile he's been ajatting for ages and he's still calvin-tier

[Anonymous No.]

reminder that your ability to learn japanese is directly proportional to dollas shredded
the best investment you can make is in a high end paper shredder somethin you can really stuff with dollas with no risk of a jam

[Anonymous No.]

>>20466213
>How do you express the abstract idea of "the" in Japanese?
Doesn't work like that.

>Random example, "The dogs are asleep". Implying that you know which dogs they are, but not implying that we own the dogs, and not stating just any dogs in general.
Sounds like you want something like "その犬達は寝ています"

[Anonymous No.]

>>20466213
Context or say その犬 to refer to some exact dogs. But mainly context.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20466213
"teh"

[Anonymous No.]

if som1 walked up to me and my dogs and said sono inu id let the dogs out and watch this buster get chomped

[Anonymous No.]

>>20466213
youre looking for ザ
ザ・ドッグズ・アー・アスリープ

[Anonymous No.]

>>20466236
>>20466234
その犬 is too direct, that's more like saying "those dogs right there". That's not what I'm trying to express.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20466259
>that's more like saying "those dogs right there"
Not necessarily. Give context faggot.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20466259
Then there's no way in Japanese to express the very same idea as "the". That's how languages usually work, 1:1 translation is impossible save for very close languages. Are you an EOP?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20466183
cringe godfather, **** probably beat off to this after seeing this star struck ass video

[Anonymous No.]

>>20466257

[Anonymous No.]

>he did things to my anki I didn't even know you could do

[Anonymous No.]

>>20465820
Hmm you could make a recommender system, like, people put in English books movies music etc maybe even YouTube channels and you give Japanese recommendations. It’s the only major weak spot I can think of Atm... hmm just googled it and it already exists, oh well.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20466271
Not sure what you're implying with EOP but I'm just trying to figure out ways to express more abstract ideas in Japanese because that gives me trouble.
>>20466269
Context is referring to people you are familiar with by a description, such as "the idiots have arrived" if you're referring to friends coming over.

[Anonymous No.]

https://link.springer.com/chapter/10.1007/978-3-319-66715-7_49
Kek

[Anonymous No.]

>>20466314
EOP = English-only person. You don't sound like you have had learned a second language before.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20466314
If you don't want to refer to any specific dogs (abstract) then just say 犬. If you want to refer to some specific dog, then say その犬 or これ犬 or whatever.

>Context is referring to people you are familiar with by a description, such as "the idiots have arrived" if you're referring to friends coming over.
Sounds like you'd probably say その.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20466333
I'm actually n3 right now, got ~6000 vocab under my belt and pretty solid basic grammar. I've been talking to natives lately so I've been self conscious about getting nuances in implications correct instead of just vague basic statements. Expressing yourself correctly is seriously the hardest part of this damn language.

[Anonymous No.]

maybe dont try so hard to roleplay as a japanese person and just be effective in your communication

[Anonymous No.]

>>20466347
So you are an EOP. N3 is not a serious level. All I want to say is, don't expect abstract concepts of one language to exist in another. You don't just learn a language, you learn a culture and a worldview, which is noticeable even for different European languages but is very fucking obvious for languages as alien for English speakers as Japanese. You should strive to think in Japanese, not to translate your thoughts in Japanese.

[Anonymous No.]

A lot of languages don't have "the" or "a" like most slavic languages besides bulgarian and macedonian. Japanese also has a lot of things that are untranslatable 1 to 1 like a lot of single words that mean whole sentences and some grammatical structures that are alien to English
Best thing to do is start thinking in nihongo and watch more anime

[Anonymous No.]

その犬は寝ていますであることだ

[Anonymous No.]

>>20466213
>犬は寝ています is too vague for what I'm trying to express.
That's how you say it unless there are multiple dogs and only one of them is sleeping. In that case you point it out with その or この or あの

[Anonymous No.]

>>20466376
と思いましたって言ったことがある

[Anonymous No.]

this thread has gone to the dogs

[Anonymous No.]

>>20466383
けど本当に犬は寝てるわかりませんと思います

[Anonymous No.]

the犬は寝ています

[Anonymous No.]

What do English people say instead of yoroshiku? The only thing I can think of is Nice to meet you but that only works sometimes and it’s not something you’d say after significantly developing a relationship or performing for an audience etc I’m extremely confuzzled

[Anonymous No.]

>>20466439
It doesn't exist in English. We're rude assholes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20466439
its like おかげさま you just have to see them used a lot

[Anonymous No.]

its like kyou mo itiniti gambaru zoi and everyone goes wait isnt itiniti redundant my eiwa says so

[Anonymous No.]

>>20465820
A dictation app where it dictates a text and allows the user to learn writing.

[Anonymous No.]

Can anyone read what this says?
I have no damn clue what comes after めちゃめちゃ and my head hurts after staring at it for so long

[Anonymous No.]

>>20466718
持ってる感

[Anonymous No.]

たわとる感

[Anonymous No.]

>>20466724
Thank you comrade

[Anonymous No.]

I need a good android game that will also imprive my japanese. Like for free leasuire time but happens to be japanese.

[Anonymous No.]

so a way to continue wasting time but learn like three words

[Anonymous No.]

>>20466785
There must be android emulators that can run Pokemon

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>20466792
I feel like when I do english stuff my brain forgets japanese faster, like when I come here

[Anonymous No.]

if youre forgetting japanese thats a pretty big sign youre not learning it

[Anonymous No.]

theres also the magical effect where you quit doing anything in japanese for a month and then you go read somethin you had trouble with a month ago and its fuckin easy
the brain works in mysterious ways much like jesus

[Anonymous No.]

i say this because i remember how it was never oh i forgot this or that

it was always like wow i know this and that and i bet this is this

it was always progression and never regression

[Anonymous No.]

>>20466855
it's like working out...you don't get stronger while lifting, you get stronger in the resting period after having lifted

[Anonymous No.]

if you want to know what regression feels like try ankidroning with no input i bet thatll do the trick

[Anonymous No.]

>>20466213
ある犬が寝ている
thank me later.

[Anonymous No.]

be smart

dont be a flashtart

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gHAqd4ARA7s

[Anonymous No.]

Ever since I started taking real input 2 days ago, I have zero appetite for doing my reps. I feel like it'd be a waate to let go of the core deck when I'm half way there (3k)

[Anonymous No.]

>>20466888
Don't do core deck. Just make a mining deck and do that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20466888
Every reason is good to graduate from that shit deck.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20466894
alternatively no more diets
feast upon input ravenously

[Anonymous No.]

>>20466888
I miss clicked send. Anyway, I was going to ask if I decide to drop core deck, should I drop my mining deck too? It's pretty small at the moment with around 100 words. But it'll probably grow big if I keep at it

[Anonymous No.]

>>20466869
I only time I feel like that is when I read too much. I start to forget my anki and don't remember any of the vocab I read over.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20466915
try the glory of radical freedom for a couple weeks and if you are convinced that mining is better bring it back
whether that involves maintaining the small amount of reps you have or dropping anki entirely is up to you
be less afraid of experimentation
>>20466920
either youre burnt out from not actually being very interested in the content anymore or youre worrying too much every time you see a word youve seen before and dont have it down perfectly
relax and have fun

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>20466958
>be less afraid of experimentation
The problem with anki experimentation is that if you leave it for a few days and change your mind later, you are greeted with a 1000+ review marathon

[Anonymous No.]

Is there a way to make kanji not look so small in fonts? It's a struggle reading some of the more complex ones due to the size

[Anonymous No.]

>>20467089
Just get good and you start to feel the shapes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20467084
if hes deleting the core deck its fine
if you do anki keep the load low in the first place so its a 15 minute a day thing and if you do go back to it you dont have to do the catchup all in one day

[Anonymous No.]

>fap to jav porn
>play games in japanese
>listen to jpop
>eat ramen
>eat sushi
>still no closer to fluency
I even use chopsticks.. I guess this is hopeless

[Anonymous No.]

>>20467191
>play games in japanese
This is the only one in the list that will actually help you. Do more of that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20467191
>not drinking green tea
found your problem

[Anonymous No.]

imagine the weeb that has a nice pair of bamboo chopsticks eatin instant ramen with them while watching naurto lmao

[Anonymous No.]

>>20467191
>>20467193
theyd better have a lot of text and i dont mean item names
everything else in that list is as valuable as your ohasi go read or at least watch anime like a good boy

[Anonymous No.]

>>20467191
Watch anime and read VNs, bakaanon

[Anonymous No.]

Believe it!

[Anonymous No.]

>>20467191
I had this problem at first too but after swapping Japanese games for Japanese videos everything suddenly started working I don’t even try cooking Japanese food anymore let alone bother eating it

[Anonymous No.]

the ultimate nihongo learning power food is a peanut butter and jelly sandwich

[Anonymous No.]

I'm dyslexic. On a scale of 1 to 10 how fucked am i if i want to learn nihongo.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20467316
You might actually be fine since Japanese uses a syllabary which is completely different from the english alphabet.

[Anonymous No.]

He is still going to confuse 2 nearing kana like rare for rera for example

[Anonymous No.]

>>20467365
ねれめぬ
Only 5% of people can distinguish these kana. Are you one of them?

[Anonymous No.]

neremenu

[Anonymous No.]

れわね
のめぬ
but theyre still easy
even shin tsuso in katakana become easy after a while

[Anonymous No.]

what do you mean after a while

it should be easy from day1

[Anonymous No.]

助けてください！シとツで読めない！

[Anonymous No.]

you cant read shi and tsu?

[Anonymous No.]

英語も読めない！

[Anonymous No.]

もう何もかも読めない

[Anonymous No.]

>>20467316
im not dyslexic but I get stuff backwards when learning japanese so who knows it might actually help

[Anonymous No.]

>>20467220
item names are good, actually.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20467444
僕もだ

[Anonymous No.]

>>20467464
Item names are good for getting used to reading engrish'd up names in katakana, but not much else.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20467471
if all your item names are in katakana you're reading a shitty rpg
you should be reading rpgs with 194388 unique monster drop collectibles that all have names made of multiple 和製漢語

[Anonymous No.]

>>20466183
>listening to just raw audio doesn't work
>srs isn't important
>focus only on actice immersion
I think ****'s been hanging out here on the dl

[Anonymous No.]

you should be reading this

わたしはゲイ

[Anonymous No.]

so i'm watching some raw anime but i'm too lazy to look up words i don't know.
how is this supposed to work?
this might be my 20th raw anime -- i haven't been keeping track.

[Anonymous No.]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sKHIrqy_jZc

[Anonymous No.]

>>20467578
Just keep doing it and you magically get better.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20467316
i saw something a long time ago about dyslexics having no trouble with kanji not sure if thats accurate or not
>>20467421
妹？
>>20467464
theyre not useless but theyre mostly vocab not grammar or natural speech patterns which are far more important
>>20467482
this is accurate though if your jrpgs dont use kanji youve never seen before something is wrong
>>20467525
the most consistent thing about his advice is that itll change
i cant wait to see what he recommends next
>>20467578
if you understand some shit youll make progress if you dont understand anything you wont
new words you dont have to look up are ideal but if everything in a sentence makes sense except for one word you might want to look it up
>>20467592
i see you a lot you seem angry

[Anonymous No.]

If it's not comprehensible at all you are learning 0%
If it's totally comprehensible you are learning 0%
You learn when you understand new information.

Hope that helps.

[Anonymous No.]

>If it's totally comprehensible you are learning 0%

into the trash it goes

[Anonymous No.]

>>20467644
>If it's totally comprehensible you are learning 0%
it its totally comprehensible you arent pushing yourself as much as you could be but you are still building stronger associations regarding what natives say and how they say it

[Anonymous No.]

>thinks he's learning anything when it's 100% understood information
lol ok

[Anonymous No.]

not even trying

[Anonymous No.]

>>20467644
Nothing is 100% comprehensible.


You missed the actual meaning of "nothing" in that sentence, it means "nothingness", not a negative polarity trigger.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20467659
and nothing is 100% uncomprehensible either, your brain is always doing something with the information, that was exagerative speech to illustrate a point..

[Anonymous No.]

last for last boss

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gkt5nT60xBA#t=249

[Anonymous No.]

a point that is still wrong

[Anonymous No.]

It must be comprehensible, but if it's not new information you're not learning. That's how aquisition works.

[Anonymous No.]

there is always new information even if you know every single word and phrase in what you're looking at

[Anonymous No.]

last for real music https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=awie_UCYe5Q

[Anonymous No.]

i knew youd get with the goblin land shit someday

[Anonymous No.]

It's not an on or off situation, it's all a gray area when it comes to conciousness, and the statement is 100% true. Chill your autism.

[Anonymous No.]

runnin out of shitpostin material gotta broaden horizons

[Anonymous No.]

>>20467698
So if you look at a black dot on a piece of paper for 100 years straight you're always getting something new out of it?

[Anonymous No.]

情報が全然分かりません

[Anonymous No.]

that vids kinda problematic tho

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=awie_UCYe5Q#t=120

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NUTGr5t3MoY#t=15

thats not acceptable gobbo boys

[Anonymous No.]

>>20467592
i was thinking you learn new words by reading and eventually you'll start picking up on those new words when you hear them.
i suppose it's also possible to pick up words from context, but i'm not that smart.
for example, i'm pretty sure i was watching a part where they were talking about a pendulum and they said furi something... and i just now looked it up and it's 振り子. i'll add that to anki now. however, to do this for multiple words would be a pain in the ass.
i'm too old to be learning, クソ!

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>>20467722
yep
did you know that there's a specific pattern that light makes after going though an idealized pinhole
that black dot is that pinhole

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>>20467722
if you read the same sentence a hundred times yeah youre not gettin anything out of it
if youre only talkin about recognizing individual words or youre a scanlator or somethin yeah its useless if you arent learnin words
if you read the same words and phrases in different sentences in different situations you learned somethin more about how honmono nihonjin nihongo it up

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also you're not gonna get good at pitch accent if you limit yourself to not consuming things that are too "easy" for you

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>>20467736
That's information you learned, if you just stare at a dot you wouldn't have learned that. All you did was were born and stared at a dot for 100 years. You learned everything that dot has to offer in a few seconds.

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how you think people learn things that someone else hasnt written in a fuckin book yet
by starin at fuckin dots

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can we get a literal childrens educator in here to laugh at u retards who are worse than a literal woman who teaches drooling 6 year olds at understanding building language fundamentals with regards to reading lmao

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>>20467733
You will pick up something from context eventually if it's said often enough. Don't worry too much about getting 100% comprehension on everything you listen to. Constantly pausing to go look up something in the dictionary would be annoying.

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if youre havin fun youre probably understandin enough that youre not wastin your time

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fun doesnt exist in 2018 if u havent already had ur fun ur FUCKEd

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>>20467746
I'm talking bout Krashen. He makes it clear it has to be comprehensible for it to work. Common sense is that if it's just comprehensible and doesn't challenge you it also isn't effective... You're never 100% not comprehensible or uncomprehensible, but in those imaginatively extreme examples you wouldn't be improving.

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>>20467798
>doesn't challenge you it also isn't effective
you could be pushin yourself harder and make more significant gains
just dont overlook the fact that sentences you understand perfectly still taught you somethin about how nihongo is used unless its so simple that youve heard that exact line in that exact situation 100 times like はっ、恥ずかしい
advice to challenge yourself is good just dont make unnecessary claims