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2040096 No.2040096 [Reply] [Original]

Hey /jp/.
I can't finish SA's stage 3 on normal.
How much do i suck at touhou?

>> No.2040099

Do it slowly.

>> No.2040104

A lot.
Keep trying, though.

>> No.2040109

The same level as me.

>> No.2040111

Also i forgot to mention. I didn't even finish SA on easy.
Got stuck at stage 5 and then for some reason i started playing on normal.

>> No.2040119

>>2040096
Too much.
You should play the demo where stage 1 to 3 were actually a challenging.
As it is now, Yuugi's Lunatic onion rings are a joke.

Train the demo until you can clear stage 3 Lunatic with 6 lifes remaining.

>> No.2040133
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>>2040119
Too lazy to get the demo.
Also by onion rings, do you mean this?
Because..err... this is where i die.
What the fuck i'm i supposed to do here.

>> No.2040138

>>2040133
You yell FUUUUUUUUUUUUCK and press the bomb button.
Holy shit, I'm terrible with bullets coming from all directions.

>> No.2040140

>>2040133
Evade the bullets.

>> No.2040146

>>2040140
hurr hurr i r so witty lol xD

>> No.2040152

>>2040133
Stop playing on normal? She's not that hard. Go play hard mode some more and come back.

>> No.2040154

>>2040133
This spellcard actually has a set pattern. ZUN did a pretty good job of making it appear random.

>> No.2040155

>>2040146
I wasn't trying to be funny, faggot. For this spellcard there isn't really anything you can do besides just trying not to get hit.

>> No.2040158

>>2040133
No, I mean her first boss spellcard, the one that stats with 5 rings that are destroyed when you shoot at them, and Yuugi creating a 1-5 (sometimes 0) pixel path surrounded by millions of small white-greenish bullets.

In your picture. When she starts, be directly under her skirt and move down to the bottom with the bullet spawning spiral. No bullets will spawn in the area surrounding you, therefore, you can totally avoid the first spiral and shoot her to death before the second phase of the attack finishes.

And move under her (but don't hug the bottom, get some space to dodge in all directions if needed) , and after that only move if necessary, because most bullets will fly past you. Otherwise, you'll accidentally fly into bullets that wouldn't have hit you.

>> No.2040160

>>2040133
They are less shots to the left, as you can see in your screenshot. Just concentrate on evading and don't worry about hitting her. She wonders around the screen, so you should hit her eventually.

>> No.2040164

>>2040138
I can't bring myself to press the bomb button ever since the new bomb scheme in MoF.

>> No.2040165
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2040165

Well hard doesn't seem that ba-
OH GOD NEW SPELLCARD FFFFFFFFFFFFFFF

>> No.2040170
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>>2040158
>first boss spellcard
>1-5 (sometimes 0) pixel path

Are you still playing the demo? The gap is absolutely huge in the full version.

>> No.2040181

>>2040178
Yup, start training your ass up for lunatic

>> No.2040178
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2040178

Well this spellcard doesn't seem that bad now.

>> No.2040192
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2040192

First boss hooray
First spellcard is still easy as shit. Does this change in lunatic?

>> No.2040193

>>2040170
I told him to play the demo and said that Yuugi's onion rings are a joke on SA Lunatic (because they are so easy). In the demo, they're actually hard.

>>2040178
This is easy in Hard once you know what that card does, but those lasers ( 3 in Lunatic) have much to big hitboxes and Kisume is bugged. (may be a feature).
If you clear that spellcard while while she is about to shoot the lasers, they are shot and not erased (all other bullets are converted into point items), so those lasers often kill me even after I beat her.

>> No.2040195

>>2040192
In Lunatic, that spellcard can be both easy and impossible.
If Yamame shoots and moves downwards at the same time, you're fucked.

>> No.2040232

>>2040192
>no lives left and no further posts
It seems OP can't get past Yamame.

>> No.2040249

>>2040232
damn even I did better than that my first try at it on lunatic

>> No.2040255
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>>2040232
O snap how did you guess.
This shit kills me when the..errr.. bullet rope gets back at her.

>> No.2040257

>>2040096

Learn to stream, learn not to watch your Touhou, but instead the spaces around your Touhou. Don't dodge like a madman unless the situation calls for it, most the time a slight nudge will avoid most bullets.

>> No.2040273

>>2040255
From your hitbox, I see that you were not directly under the enemy. Try that card again and move only vertically.

>> No.2040283
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>>2040257
>Learn to stream,
What's that?
>learn not to watch your Touhou, but instead the spaces around your Touhou.
I learnt that
>Don't dodge like a madman unless the situation calls for it, most the time a slight nudge will avoid most bullets.
I don't dodge like a madman.
Ah fuck it yes i do.
Also i find the stage more harder than the boss itself.

>> No.2040286

Fuck, and I thought I'm bad... I die at Stage 4-5

>> No.2040302

>>2040283
>Learn to stream,
>What's that?

When a bullet is aimed at out, you only need to tap a direction to avoid it as it comes close to you.

Study the stage and identify which bullets are actually aimed at you. The stage portion of stage 1 for instance is pretty much just aimed bullshit. It's easy to dodge.

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2040307

FUCK YES I ALMOST FINISHED
OH GOD NO FUCK
Killed me when they came fast at me.

>> No.2040312

>>2040283
>Learn to stream,
>What's that?

When a bullet is aimed at you, you only need to tap a direction to avoid it as it comes close to you.

Study the stage and identify which bullets are actually aimed at you. The stage portion of stage 1 for instance is pretty much just aimed bullshit. It's easy to dodge.

>> No.2040321

Don't watch the touhou, don't watch the space around the touhou, instead watch the bullets and the spaces between the bullets. Train yourself to know where your touhou is at all times and where the bullets will be at all times. Know when to focus and when not to focus. And most importantly of all, play with the original music on and DO NOT SLOW THE GAME DOWN.

>> No.2040322
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2040322

Trying marisa just for the hell of it.

>> No.2040361
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2040361

FUCK YES

>> No.2040368
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2040368

Fuck

>> No.2040385

>>2040322
>>2040368
It hurts to look at where you are moving. Fucking stay under the enemy when you want to shoot them.

>> No.2040388
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2040388

Also i've always been wondering
What the fuck are the things in the red square.

>> No.2040398

>>2040388
score modifier, just like cherry points, time points etc.
If you're doing survival runs you can safely ignore it, it's for those who do score runs.

>> No.2040411

>>2040385
You know.
This is actually the most helpful thing in the thread yet.
I feel retarded now.

>> No.2040426

>>2040388
the bar at max auto gathers everything on screen

>> No.2040437

Not too much. I can beat PCB but I still have trouble with stage 3. then again I don't play SA too much

>> No.2040474

I beat Flandre in one life and yet I cannot make it past Parsee on easy.

I do not like SA.

>> No.2040482

>>2040474
Shit tier fag here, how the fuck?

>> No.2040499

>>2040474
I can beat Parsee with one hand tied behind my back on normal, yet I cannot even get to Flandre's final spell.

>> No.2040501

>>2040474
There was an EX boss that was even hard at all?

>> No.2040513

>>2040474
>>2040499
memorization depends on the person, duh.

>> No.2040520

>>2040513
but this time, Parsee is the one about memorization. Flandre (and Patchouli) is just hard bullet dodging.

>> No.2040536

>>2040368
Already beaten midboss Parsee, OP?

>> No.2040533

>>2040520
Actually, it is more because SA lacks three things EoSD has.

Namely, Master Spark, Illusion Laser, and the old bomb/power system. I do not like the new system at all.

>> No.2040539

>>2040533
Flandre is immune to bombs, your point is invalid.

>> No.2040549

>>2040539
That is not what I mean. I mean that I cannot beat SA on easy because of the new system. It punishes you too greatly for bombing. Yes, I am >>2040474

>> No.2040565

>>2040549
Power isn't all-important. You can still do decent damage even if all you have is your base shot.

>> No.2040562

>>2040549
If you can't beat SA without bombing, you wouldn't even reach Patchouli in EoSD Extra.

>> No.2040600

>>2040536
Stopped playing because i got bored
I stopped at Parsee flower rope spellcard. It wasn't that hard but as i already said i got bored.

>> No.2040609

>>2040600
ADD fag

>> No.2040625

>>2040562

Except that EoSD EX is a cakewalk until you get to Flandre so yeah.

>> No.2040632

>>2040625
Flandre was caek too. If you had troubles with her, you hadn't gone through lunatic yet.

>> No.2040645

>>2040632

In terms of absolute difficulty, "It's easy if you've 1CCed Lunatic" is not the same thing as "easy".

>> No.2040663

>>2040625
You got something wrong there.
Even the Death Fairy in EoSD Extra alone is harder than Parsee (and all of SA easy) together. (Yes, someone started comparing EoSD Extra with SA easy somewhere in the thread)

Lately, I'm experiencing an input lag in EoSD. If I expect a bullet to hit me and bomb, I just die. No bomb, not even deathbombing. Anything to do against this?

>> No.2040703

>>2040645
I didn't say 1cc lunatic did I? I just said play through it. You don't even have to finish it to make her easy. Get Remi, stop, then go play extra and feel how much easier it is than lunatic was. 1ccing EoSD is a god awful task.

>> No.2040752

Extra bosses easiest to hardest (boss only, number of lives, stage + midboss not counted)
Suwako, Koishi, Ran, Yukari, Flandre, Mokou

Extra stages are all supposed to be between Normal and Hard. (Someone who clears Normal and unlocks should be able to clear Extra as well)

>> No.2040763

>>2040663

I have the same problem. It's even worse in PCB. I had it with IN and MoF as well, but managed to get rid of it by running them in Win98 compatibility mode. Unfortunately, that doesn't work for EoSD and PCB.

The lag isn't there when running in windowed mode, but then the framerate fucks up for me.

>> No.2040766

>>2040752
Spell practice made Mokou pretty damn easy.

>> No.2040773

>>2040766
>Spell practice made Mokou pretty damn easy.
You know that this sentence, in context with my post, is total bullshit.
Just because you can spend hours on practicing Mokou, doesn't make her shoot less bullets.

>> No.2040779

>>2040763
I noticed that the lag only applies when I run EoSD with retexture patch...

>> No.2041470

Am I the only one that thought SA was the easiest Touhou when it came to playing on Easy? I was merely trying the 6 different characters and 1cced Easy on the last character (as in my 6th try).

I seem to get to around level 4 if I just play on Normal SA (but I've been trying to master Marisa B and the juggling of option modes, but I keep watching where the balls are and miss where the bullets are coming from.

>> No.2041509

I've been noticing some input delay in PCB too. either that, or it's that everyone's so fucking slow in that game. Probably not, because I don't remember Marisa being so slow.
There's also this problem where the game opens, but stays frozen until I alt-tab out and back to it again, which often results in the game thinking the up key is being held.

>> No.2041595

I couldn't beat Utsuho on easy modo, but after playing SA for days, all the other Touhous felt relatively easy.

>> No.2041713

>>2040773
I still found her pretty damn easy compared to some other extra bosses. She only has a couple spellcards that can be a pain in the ass.

Then again, the easiest extra boss is the one you've spent a bit more time fighting against. The structure of the extra stages makes them that way.

>>2040663
>>2040763
I've only experienced input lag with EoSD when full screen. I use CPUGrab to stop the speed going ape shit when windowed.

>>2040779
What's your system specs? I knew a couple people were getting a lower frame rate (due to having an old machine), but so little people complained that I didn't bother making a lowres pack.

Nobody has said anything about input delay though, which is why I'm interested.

>> No.2041888

Am i the only one who finds Yuugi easier than Parsee?

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