DJT - Daily Japanese Thread #2057

[Anonymous No.]

This is a Japanese language learning thread for those interested in traditional otaku media such as anime, manga, light novels, elementals, and Japanese video games.

If you have no interest in the above or want to request a translation, this is not the thread for you(sorry, nyan).

Read the guide before asking questions:
https://itazuraneko.neocities.org/
https://djtguide.neocities.org/(This is the older guide but most anons think it's better than the newer and "improved" one)

Previous thread: >>20342495

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[Anonymous No.]

Manga is reading.
Watching subbed anime is useless.
Grinding words in anki is not acquiring Japanese and is not even necessary but if you find it useful at least limit it to a fraction of your study time.
Don't bother tweaking the interval modifier or anything else. If the default settings aren't good enough nothing will be.

You can close the thread now.

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>This is the older guide but most anons think it's better than the newer and "improved" one
Still trying to push this meme? How asshurt can you be?

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>>20354347
It's true, I don't know why OPs bother with posting the new site at all.

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one of my classic creations

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>>20354346
should close the thread before reading your post to prevent harm desu

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Reminder to set your Interval Modifier to 150%

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このスレも頑張りますように

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i'm adding audio to this dojg deck is that bad?

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if youre not watching anime with eng subs right now youre fuckin up mucho grande lol

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>>20354561
why must you always laugh at your own shitty posts?

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the same reason you must reply to them

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>>20354542
only if you dont share it and the audio is of decent quality

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>>20354587
i'm not sharing it since it's probably bad

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Wow good thing the graded readers have audio because Aparently I can't into context

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you will someday dont worry and itll be real obvious when you do : )

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yeah when you just start reading you dont know how to read with a proper tempo or where words start or end sometimes so audio is cool in that case

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>>20354347
if you dont like people talking shit about your site, you could always fix it

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Here's some compelling content everyone https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wlSmXusPSUA

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i just finished my 10th episode of animu in subs2srs bukakke immersion mode.

KLK ep1-4
LWA ep8
Goblin slayer 1-4

lets have some cake for celebration!
Can you feel my powerlevel?

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〆

[Anonymous No.]

ぼくはAmerican Pigです。
ぼくはばかです。

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what's the point of srsing short anime lines when you can just watch the whole episode and you get all the context and nuance that way

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What's the point?

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Listening to dissidia ff story mode in nip while I drive. Has anyone seen better results in listening comprehension from doing this? Just listening without reading.

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yeah i listen to anime and drama ive seen all day when im not doing anything active in japanese for months and its what i contribute my listening skills to now

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What does pic related kanji mean?

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>>20354959
If it's reasonably comprehensible, of course it will improve your listening.

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>>20354992
read more

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>>20354434
Why?

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>>20354992
Review the guide resource list and look it up.

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>>20355012
To optimize SRS scheduling

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>>20354992
向かう

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>>20354992
that's robinhood over yonder, standing at the top of a cave and looking into its mouth.

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>>20355019
If you refuse to elaborate I'll just assume you're trolling and move on

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>>20354876
do your best nihongo trick and showcase your epic knowledge *snorts*

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>>20355031
150% is better than 100%, is this not obvious?

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Give me one good reason why I shouldnt just take adderall when I study

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because being straight edge and not polluting your human temple is the best

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Fair enough

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>>20355031
Sure. Increasing it makes reviews more spread out to reduce reps, but also lowers your retention rate which causes you to do more reps on missed cards. There's a balance between these two things and 150% is it

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>>20355028
your brain rtk.

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>>20354992
kanji don't mean anything
the word 向かう means something look that up

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>>20354992
This is why you do core2k.

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>>20355104
Did you just finish rick and morty?

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>>20355104
>kanji don't mean anything
wrong they were assigned to particular words for a reason

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ok i just looked up 向 in my dictionary and it says the meaning of the kanji is むかう

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>>20355124
wrong that happened sometimes but not always

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los bakas

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>>20355178
right so i was wrong but i can stand by this statement

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>>20355186
thats the spirit

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sKHIrqy_jZc

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>The earlier you are in the process the more useful SRS will be
>In the beginning SRS can help you quite a bit because it primes you to notice those words more in your immersion and remember what you learned
>The more hours a day you can immerse the less useful SRS will be. If you only spend 2 hours a day on Japanese then SRS is very useful because you might not encounter particular words frequently enough within that time to reinforce them properly. Let's say you get 8 hours of immersion a day. By that point you don't need SRS because chances are you'll encounter that word often enough to reinforce it naturally.
>It's hard to come up with an optimal ratio of SRS to immersion but never spend more than 1/3rd of your time on SRS and never go over 1 and a half hours of SRS.
-****

is he completely right on everything?

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Nani the fuck? How am I meant to get 8 hours of immersion a day

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prolly not considering his japanese is only sort of maa maa lmao

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priming lol. he doesn't mention the part where you get to the point where you have 2000+ cards that pile up from adding to the deck over time resulting in maybe hundreds of reviews a day where you just waste all that precious time reviewing stuff out of context. all learning happens in context. you dont need a primer, you just need to read and listen more. you will figure out what words you know and dont know. if its in anki you dont need to know it, if its not in anki you need to know it. its that simple

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the only thing u need to prime is deez nutz lol

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Imagine having so little life in you that you spend 8 hours per day on Japanese to be able to read eroge

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keep in mind matt has an ego problem and he is purposefully trying to invent stupid shit so he can take credit for it even if it makes no sense or is a shitty idea (all the good stuff has already been said and done)

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>>20355263
>where you have 2000+ cards that pile up
cuz he already solved this problem with his deathpoint anki addon. he's thinking WAY ahead of you dude.

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>>20355285
>meditation

Kek

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>>20355263
>if its in anki you dont need to know it, if its not in anki you need to know it. its that simple

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>>20355292
here's a good deathpoint anki addon it's called uninstall.exe
having shorter lifespans for cards doesnt make it any less of a waste of time doing the actual srs review process, it just keeps older cards out of the cycle. the problem is putting shit you dont need in there in the first place

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>>20355313
>it just keeps older cards out of the cycle
...which...alleviates the "thousands of piled up reviews" problem you were just talking about...you're not trying to wiggle away from your point because it got BTFO right?

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>>20355301
ok tell me why you need to know how to answer an anki question. how does this make you better at japanese?
the only thing you need to do is understand japanese where it's actually encountered irl like when talking to people or watching tv or reading a book.
anki will let you memorize the answer to a question but that's not what a language is

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you guys must be really bad at memorizing things if you think anki should ever reach 2k plus cards to review

at most you should have (new cards * 10) +- about 30 or so

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>>20355333
> how does this make you better at japanese?
When I read today, I encountered a bunch of words that I knew because I learned them through anki. Mostly stuff I'd mined before. As a result I could understand the sentences I was reading. You realize the point is to see something in context and then use anki as a tool to memorize it right?

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>>20355323
i think if youre absolutely going to do anki for a language then that deathpoint thing is better than nothing (khatz tells you to just delete the card if it pisses you off or you feel like you know it). im saying adding stuff in the first place is a mistake and it's really just downhill from there

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has that extension actually been made yet because i'd find it extremely useful right now. i'd decrease the interval for my deck and set the deathpoint to 1 or 2 weeks.

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>>20355357
if you're encountering a bunch of words in your reading thats in anki either your deck is gigantic and youre wasting time srsing instead of reading or youre a beginner and you would learn those words anyways due to their natural frequency of occurence in japanese

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>>20355377
anki helps you remember better no matter how frequently those words appear while reading.
source: firsthand experience.

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ok i guess youre right anki is epic and i yield my argument but i still dont see the point when you can just read or watch anime

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>>20355377
Your argument boils down to "wasting time" yet you have no idea which way of studying is most efficient for anyone but yourself.

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I do 35 cards a day. How long is to long in Anki? Use to do 50 a day for 3 months and reviews were taking like 6 fucking hours a day or so.

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How many times did you guys have to lookup grammar points in DOJG when you started reading before they stuck?

>inb4 intrinsically understand the meaning by repeatedly reading something you don't understand

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>>20355400
There's a point of diminishing returns which depends on how many words you have already accumulated and the ratio of the time you spend on anki vs actual Japanese learning. Only you can gauge that unless you give more details, but if it took you 6 hours a day for 50 cards, does it take you 4 hours for 35? That's too much unless you're reading for 6-7.

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>>20355239
no but hes getting warmer
except for everything he said about reading too early damaging your accent hes getting colder there

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>>20355402
Only once on average for the meaning. I don't bother committing rules like "can't be used with X, Y, or Z" or "can/cannot be replaced by X" to memory though.

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>>20355420
i don't worry about that stuff either but i still look up the same grammar points repeatedly for months

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guys have you ever considered youre just not giving me enough credit

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>>20355429
Which book have you gotten up to? If you're still on beginner/intermediate just read more. If you're on advanced try to commit some sentences you find with the structure to memory. It's probably easier to retain the meaning that way

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>>20355402
>>inb4 intrinsically understand the meaning by repeatedly reading something you don't understand
i look shit up to try to figure out what im missing for sake of interest in the content but the things i look up are usually not the things i improve at
sometimes it gives you the one piece youre missing but most of the time you couldnt guess the meaning from context because youre not ready for what was said and looking up what one bit of the sentence means isnt going to stick no matter how many times you do it

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>>20355411
I was hardly reading if at all.

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>>20355402
>>inb4 intrinsically understand the meaning by repeatedly reading something you don't understand
this is exactly what I did though

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cant turn nothing into something

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>>20355518
context is something

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better do those reviews for 6 hours instead of learning japanese

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>>20355518
Babies start from nothing and eventually turn that into the ability to shitpost, which is the highest form of human communication.

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>>20355044
Because you should, shit works incredibly well for studying. Memory, focus, and patience will be at your absolute peak. The one thing is that learning japanese is such a long term thing that taking a few pills is a just a drop in the bucket in scope. You really need a perscription or a steady supply to get the huge results. Although it's fun watching shows and keeping up with everything, straight out of limitless. Then they wear off and you're retarded again.

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then it wasnt nothing and it wasnt incomprehensible and there was something you understood about the thing you didnt understand

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context: kyuubei knockoff gives MC hero transformation powers but he turns into a girl

is 仕立てた自称正義 like "made up sense of righteousness"?
but they're also talking about clothingえ
probably a pun?

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>>20355569
yea that's the point of immersion. something is incomprehensible until it isn't.

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>>20355569
Exactly this. Paul Nation talks about picking up a "piece" of meaning every time a word is encountered in a comprehensible context. Each piece may not feel like anything but it adds up.

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>>20355581
its all modifying 宇宙人
俺を美少女戦士に仕立てた turned me into a 美少女 warrior
自称正義の宇宙人

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一打席勝負
This is something about baseball, but what does it mean exactly?
Is it like Baseball but only with 2 players total? The batter and the pitcher?

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lol

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dont get me wrong everything in life can be rooted in baseball but lol

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From kawajapa, there’s part of a sentence that pisses me off: サクラに話した日本語ができる留学生は。。。 the first clause サクラに話した modifies 留学生 (meaning “the foreign exchange student who can speak Japanese that I told Sakura about”) but because it was immediately followed by a noun my first impression was that it modified 日本語 (so I thought it meant “the foreign exchange student who could use the same level of Japanese that I used to talk to Sakura”)

My question is this: is this a natural ambiguity in Japanese that is usually clarified by context/going with the more normal sounding sentence (there are similar examples in English after all) or is there some trick that I don’t know about to figure out which way it would be, I haven’t read very much but it seems like neither construct is particularly uncommon.

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Reminder that you don't really want to learn to read, just immerse yourself by watching unsubbed anime and that will be enough.

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>>20355719
Why ask here, just ask Dolly-sensei directly.

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>>20355618
oh okay. thanks a bunch

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>>20355719
>the same level of
were you getting these words from
do we look at the same japanese text
are you a psychic

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>>20355755
DJT has people who are so good at japanese that fluent speakers like **** get made fun of.

surely people on DJT are much more qualified to answer these questions than dolly.

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>>20355755
Because a couple months ago when I was drunk and feeling a bit cheeky I asked her out but she just deleted my comment, Idk how often she deletes comments so she might still remember me and so messaging him directly would be unnecessarily awkward

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>>20355755
What's the difference?

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>>20355798
>her
>him

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>>20355792
After all, all the people on DJT got good at Japanese the best way which is just to immerse yourself.
Questions like that should be a piece of cake for people who know the language on contextual level.

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>>20355792
lol

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>>20355792
shut your filthy lying mouth no one is more qualified to answer any question on any topic than dolly.

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r8 my haiku

女より
華奢な体格
だが男

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>>20355818
stop haikuing like an anime character

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>>20355766
Sakura-to said Japanese-is able foreign exchange student

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>>20355822
u mirin

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>>20355818
no 季語 not a haiku 0/10

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>>20355840

青葉には
綺麗美少女
男だよ

hows this then

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>>20355827
You can assume the first part is "I told Sakura", and the rest is "a foreign student who can speak Japanese"

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Can anybody recommend some popular fully voice acted visual novels (the protagonist can be silent)?

I'm currently mining vocab with anime but I think the tooling for visual novels looks more promising. But I don't want to miss out on listening comprehension.

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>>20355894
うみねこのなく頃に

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>>20355894
so like all of them ?

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>>20355719
it's not ambigious you just aren't used to parsing japanese yet

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>>20355898
>うみねこのなく頃に
thanks seems interesting enough.

>>20355900
thanks, but no thanks. Those look like absolute garbage tier.

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世界一
黒髪彼女
けどチンコ

2elegant4jaypee

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>>20355936
lol nice self own

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how do I get a jamal bf

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>>20355963
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bUviw9YTduY

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>>20355963
Play 10000 hours of subbed otome vns to warm up then go for it

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aint none of yall on the level to trigger my flags

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>>20355991
thats not what you said when i inserted my dick into your anus last night

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I left /djt/ for 3 months and came back to check it out again. Glad to see you're all still squabbling instead of studying and the thread is full of dekinai's as always.

See you in another 3, fags, I have gains to make.

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>posts epic oc cringe of Matthew until Jamal gets tsundere (hot&cold) about me posting what he loves but also stealing his shtick

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>>20356004
Pretty much me. I come by now just for the shitposting and the sometimes useful advice.

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>>20356004
>>20356062
i mostly come here for grammar help with porn or degenerate shit so i don't expose my degeneracy to japanese friends/people on discord

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This is my first time back on 4chan in about 3 weeks. I decided I was wasting too much time here, so now instead of having DJT and various other threads open all day, I have a light novel open instead.

I didn't even get close to my 23 hour raw anime goal. I only watched 4.6 hours this month, but I read an entire light novel, Zero no Tsukaima volume 2. I'm not sure if this should be considered a failure or not. Is reading an LN worth more than watching 18 hours of raw anime?

Haven't decided if I will continue to ZnT 3 or try something else. If I could read 1 LN and meet my raw anime goals this month, I'd be pretty happy, but it probably won't happen.

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>>20356100
are you nukemarine that would make sense

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>>20356106
No, I read ZnT1 a couple years ago. And Nuke doesn't watch anime.

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considering how many words are on a page in a book and how many pages are in a book you probably did read more than the amount of words spoken in 23 hours of anime

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>>20356110
oh either way reading is better than listening for practicing your comprehension

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>>20356000
you aint on the level to fuck with my anus boy

>>20356022
you aint very good at whatever youre doin if you gotta tell me about it

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desu all the best girls are routeless side girls why go for the token tsundere when u can go for unobtainable banterdere or somethin

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fuck a side chick

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>>20356100 here
I forgot that I wanted to recommend https://furigana.info/ One of the most annoying things for me when reading is words that can be read multiple ways. With this site I can see what are the most common ways to read words in novels.

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>>20356226
https://core6000.neocities.org/furigana.txt uses a larger/more modern sample (old version of the DJT library)

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>>20356110
Nuke said he watched ZnT to get visuals for when he read the LN. He mentioned doing it again when he read 君の名は. Just text wise, a light novel is like 24 anime, but plot wise it's about 4 to 6 anime.

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>>20356226
Oh yeah, I didn't actually look at your picture but it already contains a good example of why that site sucks. The common readings for 冠 are かん and かんむり. かぶ is rare

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>>20356226
>>20356241
i imagine these are built from text with furigana
which means it is skewed towards readings that are most commonly accompanied by furigana and away from the readings natives actually remember

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Day 29

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>>20356241
Thanks.

>>20356248
Oh, I forgot he watched 君の名は and didn't know he watched ZnT.

It does feel strange that I've read 2 volumes, over 500 pages and I still haven't covered the first season. I haven't seen the series in over a decade so I'm going to rewatch it once I read all the novels it covers.

>>20356256
>>20356287
Well, that isn't good. I was worried it was inaccurate because rare readings probably get furigana more often than common ones. But it is the best resource I had and I will probably still use it alongside that text file you linked.

I eventually decided on かんむり. I tried looking it up in Japanese but I couldn't find a good way to know which to use. It was just referring to a crown that someone was wearing.

I think I need to read some books where all kanji have furigana so I can learn the common readings better.

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can you stop

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Is it true you shouldn't bother looking up most words if you don't know most of them since the definition will go in one ear and out the other?

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>>20356287
Yup. But with a large enough sample, the most common reading still ranks first even though rare readings are inflated. e.g.
今日    きょう(866), こんにち(139)

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>>20356320
If you don't know most of the words and also don't look anything up, what exactly do you plan on doing?

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>>20356338
immersion lol

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>>20356338
Matt said to only look up 1 word per minute or so and be comfortable with not knowing most of the words.

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>>20356338
lazily guessing whats being said via the few words i do know and skipping over everything i cant figure out

t n3 esl slash a slash translator

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Just turned 23 lads. My life sucks and I wish I could kill myself. Thanks for reading.

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>>20356377
Same here but 26.

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>>20356372
Is that in his new video? I haven't watched it yet. I can understand something like that for watching anime or reading a physical book, but when you have instant lookups with Yomi/Rikaichan, why wouldn't you look up everything?

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>>20356398
He says that having to look up every word becomes a chore and you won't retain what you look up.

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>>20356401
and he's basing that on...?

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――こんな調子でしまくっていれば。What does conditional ば do at the end of sentences?

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>>20356408
I'd estimate his IQ to be 130 or higher. When you're that smart you can just kind of intuit something like this even if you didn't directly experience it.

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>>20356410
Probably connect to whatever came before ――.

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why m*tt did ajatt makes sense when you think about him sitting there for hours on end hoping for a sentence where theres exactly one word he doesnt know so he can acutally understand what he read

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>>20356320
That’s why you repeat back the completed sentence ya dingus

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if matt so smart why mia so shit and still not finished due to him making so many mistakes

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>>20356434
what good will that do if you're reading thousands of new words a day?

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>>20356443
imagine being this retarded

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>>20356447
dude it's just random gobbly goop at that point

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>>20356450
yeah youre right it is you keep doing you

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bros i just got back from japan

i lazily memorized hiragana before this but now i am motivated to read write and speak

i wonder if my parents will be angry because i am korean by birth.

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>>20356372
ive been wondering if by this he means that you shouldnt even check readings of those words

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>>20356502
You can learn to read hangul in 15mins, reading moonrunes is much harder.

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>>20356548
yeah. but honestly, i think knowing korean makes listening by ear pretty intuitive

its just reading thats a different beast as koreans dont need to know hanja

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>>20356502
>because i am korean by birth.
thanks for ruining the illusion dude.

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forget that one lookup a page or one minute per lookup just drink from the firehose. look up as much as you want and make sure you're understanding what's going on. reread newly understood sentences then move on to the next one.

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as long as youre watchin eng subbed anime every fucken day idgaf what u do otherwise

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>>20356561
*burps kimchi in your face*

sorry bro

[Anonymous No.]

why are you burping poop ?

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>>20356603
its not poop~!

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>>20355856
Much better. The use of springtime imagery, evocative of love and blooming, really conveys a sense of delight in the discovery in the final line. 6.5/10.

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本当に私のこと好きなの？

I was told that this means "Is it really true that you like me?" However, I'm not sure why the のこと is there. What does it do, and why do you need it there instead of just 私?

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they dont like you they just like your koto

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>>20356710
私のこと is literally "my thing", so basically he's asking if they like his penis

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i mean u can say 本当に私が好きなの also if u want but・・ hehe : )

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>>20356427

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>>20354260
>neocities
Isn’t that shutting down?

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>>20356725
I know this is memery but some poor chap might actually believe it so let set this straight. こと usually refers to something more abstract, non-tangible. In your penis case it would probably only be の with the rest being implied.
私のこと is probably best understood if you translate it as "my person" (as in, "about my person") internally. If you translate something on paper just use "me".

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>>20356710
alternative answer is you just gotta feel it
just know that 私のこと is something that as for あなた may or may not 好き
that is all that こと needs to be to you
the nuance will come gradually

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>>20356848
You're thinking of Geocities.jp

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one might even consider neocities to be
a new geocities

[Anonymous No.]

A neogeocities if you will

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fuck ur koto

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あなたのことファックしたい

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>>20355044
cause when it wears of you will wonder why you even care about japanese. also it rots your brain.

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it means do you like like me instead of do you like me(as a friend)

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i dont like green eggs and ham sam i am

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>using the stem/infinitive form of a verb to make it into a noun, slapping する on the end of it, nominalizing it with の and then making the whole thing the object of the sentence and slap an honorific on it for good measure
why you gotta be like this japan

[Anonymous No.]

its not a big deal

[Anonymous No.]

honorific language is basically youre important so ill acknowledge it by expending a bit more air than usual

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>>20356413
>I'd estimate his IQ to be 130 or higher.
he's pushing 105 tops, he literally made a video over an hour on...
what your retention rates should be lol
(a variable that has endless factors. i.e; how long you study the card, how hard the deck/card are inherenetly, etc.)

[Anonymous No.]

まあ、たとえばあなたのことは好きなものってことはありますよ。

[Anonymous No.]

he wants to have a high iq thats why he does all that retarded shit he thinks is imitating smart people lol

[Anonymous No.]

after a month or two of looking around at AJATT and other "learning" methods I have, like Matt, decided I am enough of a big brain IQ boy to create my own method

it's called "fuck you do the work there are no shortcuts you're just wasting time"

patreon link in description below please gib mone

[Anonymous No.]

also known as read more

[Anonymous No.]

i have here the solution to literally any problem in your life

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>>20357450
This. I've tried the anki grind and I didnt burn out but I still felt like shit that I couldnt read despite having 8k vocab more or less matured.

[Anonymous No.]

is the cure dolly method (japanese subs and anki) good

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>>20357527
anki for word grind
internet/native Japanese media for grammar
lots of reading for actually becoming fluent and learning the language properly

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>>20357564
is word grind even valuable

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>>20357652
I find it speeds up internalization of the word and reading in general a lot since I don't need to look at a dictionary anywhere near as much. Also I think it helps with grammar a lot since I already know most of the words, and can concentrate more on learning how the grammar makes them relate to one another.

mind you I do the autistic triple decking of having decks for reading and writing words in kanji as well

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>>20357652
Anki is good to get words into your long term to the point you'll seem them at that frequency in what you're immersing. If you don't immerse that much, you'll need Anki more. If you immerse a lot, you need it less.

Anki therefore works for those that don't have time to immerse to have a holding pattern. However, you're not going to get good on Anki alone. You have to read and listen to actual Japanese for that to happen.

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>all you need to do is immerse
>30% comprehension is still effective
>j/k you should be constantly pausing and looking up words every 3 minutes

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>>20358020
You retain that word you looked up retard. And it only.gets easier with practice.

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>>20358040
aight babe we'll see if you remember 芍薬 15 threads from now

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>>20358040
>imagine shilling for **** this hard

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>>20358053
I dont know who that is because I dont follow e celeb drama like you faggots.

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>>20358057
then you completly missed the point of what you are replying to dumb fuck

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>>20358066
Take the e celeb drama dick outta ya mouth boi.

[Anonymous No.]

I failed N2 my dudes. I thought I had it down.

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>>20358080
Yea I saw 3 minutes of a video and noted how dumb the logic was, and what's funny is that you're either so stupid you agreed with him, or you're so stupid you jump into things without understanding them.

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>>20358092
feelsBadMan

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>>20358040
>You retain that word you looked up
not really
contextual associations are much stronger than translations and definitions
>>20358046
if i read something particularly memorable involving 芍薬 i might remember 芍薬 and otherwise i am not bothered by not remembering 芍薬
what point were you making

[Anonymous No.]

キノの旅はホントに「キノ」だ。
関係のイメジはこのｌｎの最高のお話と思う。

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>>20358184
the point i was making is that "just looking a word up" isn't enough to remember a word for the long term, i'm not sure what you thought i was implying because your response is to something i didn't say or imply

>>20358229
i'm glad someone in this thread is fucking reading something and kino of all things. that chapter really was interesting, huh. definitely my favorite from the first book.

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What the fuck is up with the RTK deck on the site? It just skipped from frame 457 to 460 for no apparent reason. Browsing back in the deck I see it skipped a bunch of cards. It says they're due "2049" and other high numbers. Why is that? I'm shooting myself in the leg if I keep going with this.

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>>20358232
>"just looking a word up" isn't enough to remember a word for the long term
and by consequence what is
you need repeated exposure either way
>your response is to something i didn't say
just throwing out that theres also too much obsession with remembering words since you gave a good example of a word that most of us would gain nothing from explicitly memorizing

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>>20358229
his bike talking to him was fucking me up, but yea I'm enjoying it, read the first 20 pages like 3 times now

[Anonymous No.]

How do I fix this? This is going to fuck me over HARD if I don't fix it soon.

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>>20358298
instead of worrying about the order your cards are gonna come out in how about you worry about the order of words in this section from a light novel you could be reading right now:

　夜中の三時。

　仕事を終えた私は、いつものように原稿をそろえて、いつものように封筒に入れて、いつものように、机の右側一番下の引き出しにしまった。担当編集者が取りに来るまで、もうずっとこのままだ。

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>>20358298
You shouldn't be worrying about that in the slightest. I believe in the rtk deck but you don't have to beat every facet of the joyo set into your head. When you're done you're going to forget a bunch over time if you don't see them and you don't want to do anki the rest of you life. So do the deck and if you're missing anything you'll quickly run into through reading and content in general. Don't sweat it.

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>>20358298
..also there are some rtk/joyo kanji that are hardly ever used. They may have pruned it out for you.

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>>20358298
oh nvm just realized you were talking bout the order, yea idk whats that about but if it's under 2200 you should be ok

[Anonymous No.]

I got a pile of cards in the Core + ones I mined myself, I cannot go through them, if I did that diligently it'd take too much time
I was Anking every day, so it's not a matter of consistency; been adding 10 new cards a day

so what's the consensus on Anki, is it a waste of time or not? I like the idea of getting the most frequent words that you are bound to - by definition - encounter a lot, and bare minimum is adding words that you really feel like want to learn
I added a lot of shit that I felt "it would be helpful" etc., but idk...

[Anonymous No.]

>Don’t deliberately memorize words. Slows you down. Just read and listen a lot. Words will eventually stick. Same as your first language.

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>>20358563
Knowing a few hundred useful words is good imo but after that you pick stuff up from reading. If you think you're not likely to encounter the word again soon or if you already encountered it multiple times and can't remember the meaning and reading, mine it.

I find Anki to be very useful for remembering words long term.

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>>20358563
It's very good for helping you remember shit but should never be your main/only source of study. The time spent per word is so low that you really don't need to be picky about which words you add, though I think making your own deck as you encounter words in context is far, FAR better than just doing a premade deck.

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>>20358583
>Knowing a few hundred useful words is good imo but after that you pick stuff up from reading.
So Anki is the best for total beginngers to build up the basic vocabulary?
> If you think you're not likely to encounter the word again soon
Why learn it if it's not likely to come up?

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>>20358608
After those few hundred words you don't use Anki to learn you use it to review. So that you don't forget. Even rare words are useful. You use Anki because you're not likely to remember rare words without it.

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>>20354454
わたしはfuckinゲイボイdesu~

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>>20358563
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AqfISgCQV-U
>>20358611
>You use Anki because you're not likely to remember rare words without it.
read more and you will remember rarer words until you stop wanting to read more

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>>20358766
Is this the guy who said てまね instead of ために？
I think he could use some Anki drilling.

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>>20358790
if you think drilling will fix that kind of mistake and input wont you need jesus also known as read more
dude hasnt used japanese seriously in longer than youve been alive and hes still better than you at it

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>>20358805
The mistake he made was in something so basic that it makes everything he says about retention completely invalid. Miss me with that brainlet shit.

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>>20358817
interesting interpretation of cause and effect

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>>2035426
How would you say "There are two types of X" ?

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>>20358835
When you don't ride a bicycle for years and try to ride it again do you accidentally sit with your back to the handles? No. You're a fucking retard and so is your idol.

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>>20358837
Xの二種類がある

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>>20358838
who said kaufmann is my idol hes just one of the dudes most in touch with the reality of language
he also says the same things in every video and shills his website because no ones perfect

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>>20358861
Only a retard worshipper would defend someone making that retarded mistake and claim he's "in touch with the reality of language"
Someone here is very out of touch. And it ain't me.

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>>20358877
is this bait you havent denied hes better than you so i presume youre just wanking about the only mistake youve ever recognized

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>>20357358
>to + infinitive form of a verb + please somewhere + put in the end of a sentence.
Why you gotta be like this English

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>>20358890
That's like saying you can only criticize a sports player once you're better than him.
I can recognize that mistake and never ever make it (because what the fuck) while having less advanced knowledge of Japanese than him. It's irrelevant.
He's a fucking idiot and nobody should give him clicks.

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>>20358911
is he a fucking idiot or is he a sports player
dudes out of your league but youre clinging to the only way you can feel superior

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>>20358921
The only person I feel superior to here is you.

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>>20358928
whats your read

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>>20358938
You worship some lame e-celeb who can't pronounce the most basic shit

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>>20358952
>>20358861

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>>20358861
>He's not my idol, I just take whatever he says by face value because he agrees with me.

[Anonymous No.]

おはようおにいちゃん

さてこれはなんでしょうか

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>>20358975
>I just take whatever he says by face value
you seem confused
i already know what i think
i know kaufmann is in touch because what he says usually agrees with what i think

[Anonymous No.]

damn did he realize i was playing

[Anonymous No.]

No I just took a nap

[Anonymous No.]

You know, people wouldn't be so hostile to you if you people actually supported your arguments with something else but "kaufmann said so"

[Anonymous No.]

>>20359067
polyphasic?
>>20359077
usually do when confronted with something intelligent but if you dont try why would i

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>>20359082
Yeah, just dismiss people who disagree with you as "not intelligent", that'll keep the conversation productive.

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>>20359096
what did you think you were doing that was different here >>20358790

[Anonymous No.]

What is the actual argument here?

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>>20359103
That's not me.

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>>20359115
my bad
answer is krashen said so

[Anonymous No.]

If there is one thing I got about Japanese, it's that the whole language is literally:

>Kanji, Chinese characters for Chinese words but we say them differently because fuck it
>Hiragana, actual Japanese characters are just adapted Chinese characters for grammar, verb tenses, feelings in sentence ending and sounds, since the kanji doesn't tell you shit about the way you are supposed to spell a word, they also are used to tell you which sounds you are supposed to make
>Hiragana again but called Katakana and with different symbols - that look like they were drawn by some toddler - are used for everything else, mostly foreign words because it's not like we can use our precious Hiragana to type baka gajin words
Why the fuck this even still exists in 2018.

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>>20359193
Why are imperial units still a thing in some shitholes?

[Anonymous No.]

おにちゃん

たいへん

おおあめ

８０ミリだって

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>>20359193
>for Chinese words
also 国語
>but we say them differently
surprising no one
>actual Japanese characters
国字
>verb tenses
minna genki
>Hiragana again but called Katakana
it would suck if a language had completely redundant writing systems that people switched between stylistically

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>>20359193
Honorable mention to:

>spaces? wtf is that shit? what do you mean it's used to make sure you can understand where the last word is ending? surely this baka gajin isn't telling me I don't have to learn 2000 kanji + hiragana + katakana if only I could move the pen slightly away from the last character, right?

[Anonymous No.]

if english used a syllabary rather than an alphabet spaces would look ridiculous
just a thought it has nothing to do with spaces in nihongo

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>>20359233
>minna genki
wut. Both have a kanji, and they aren't verbs.
皆 元気
>inb4 there's the verb "to be"
No, there isn't. In Japanese you can say that without verbs and it makes sense because it's not English.

>completely redundant
>katakana
Lel. Have fun not understanding sentences that have foreign vocabulary or names, and they are very commonly used. PC immediately comes to mind.
パソコン

Whether something is nationally used or not doesn't change the fact they are indeed Chinese.

>>20359270
And thank fuck it doesn't. Why using it in 2018 even.

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>>20359273
>皆 元気
tenses is a shitty textbook view of grammar
a couple things can be called tenses and a lot of other things cant
>it makes sense because it's not English.
everyone good?
>Lel.
by redundant i meant something else could be used not that it isnt used
such as the redundant english alphabet that im not using and you are but we both know because its still used
>doesn't change the fact they are indeed Chinese.
are 国字 chinese
>thank fuck it doesn't
how do you feel about glorious hangwel

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>>20359319
>tenses is a shitty textbook view of grammar
>a couple things can be called tenses and a lot of other things cant
I specifically said "verb"

>everyone good?
Minna genki can be translated as "Everyone is fine/healthy" without needing an equivalent for "to be"

>such as the redundant english alphabet
Are you talking about uppercase letters? I give you that point, but gotta admit a good amount of lowercase letters are just the uppercase one but smaller.

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>>20359342
>I specifically said "verb"
yeah youre getting distracted by minna genki it wasnt an example it was just lol textbooks sorry for not clearing that up
>Minna genki can be translated as
i didnt translate it i provided a sentence with similar structure that makes sense and is english
>a good amount of lowercase letters are just the uppercase one but smaller.
a good amount of katakana are derived from the same kanji as their corresponding hiragana
still more to learn overall though but i think it doesnt really matter

[Anonymous No.]

I've learned how to read and write hiragana and katakana and have begun learning some kanji. I'm on the second row at the moment. I like this guide because it shows you stroke order and some examples. It only teaches you 120 kanji, however. Where should I continue after I'm done with these? Hopefully keeping the continuity of more common to less common / lower education level to higher education level.

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>>20359396
>Where should I continue after I'm done with these?
Honestly no better way than just reading something written in Japanese
Manga, games, VNs are a valid answer.

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>>20359396
>Where should I continue after I'm done with these?
by focusing on words rather than kanji unless after this point kanji is still a major point of struggle
memorizing thousands of kanji when you dont know japanese is of questionable value
even better dont focus on words either just read and listen more
youll be amazed how much you improve at reading by just reading without any extra effort into memorizing symbols

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>>20359396
Just start going through the 2k/6k deck on anki, it gives you vocab that's written with these kanji. Supplement with it by reading something easy preferrably with furigana so you don't have too look up everything.

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>>20359396
Do Kanji still look like random scribble to you?
Do you see the difference between 穏やかな and 緩やかな?
If so, just start reading. If not, start reading anyway and do some sort of Kanji study.

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>>20359430
Not that Anon but I had to zoom my screen several times.
How fucked am I ?

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>>20359442
if you have no familiarity with kanji you dont know what to look for
the question is if you will build familiarity with kanji naturally or you might benefit from spending some time staring at them and learning strokes
just go forward and see if the problem gets better or not

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>>20359442
Did you encounter them already outside of the post? If not, you are not fucked at all, just keep reading.
But if you already encountered them and still are unable to tell them apart, you should consider not sitting down for every Kanji looking similar, but instead spending that time going through a Radical deck or through the first 500 or so of RTK/KKLC/Kanjidamage/whatever. There is no reason to do either to completion, but you really need to stop seeing Kanji as random scribbles, otherwise you will have a very hard time telling similar looking ones apart. And at that point brute forcing them in Anki is less than optimal.

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>>20359396
I don't know if this collection of kanji is that useful unless you know the vocab for them already.
These are just very basic concepts like numbers, elements, units of time, bodyparts, basic adjectives, simple concepts, things that elementary children understand.
It's much more useful to learn these in context of a word or a sentence.
You will need to learn all the different ways of using these, not the singular meaning behind each one.
Japanese isn't a very logical language, just by knowing that 大 is big doesn't prepare you for stuff like 大丈夫 which is daijoubu or ok.

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>>20358297
とにかく「キノの旅」は１ページを読むたびにだんだん良くなります。じゃぁ、「人の痛みが分かる国」・「多数決の国」はいいお話ですけど、コロシアムから終わりはすげえキャラ展開があって、猛烈なアクションシーンが多くります。また、作家の大好き言葉は慣れる時後で　(いつでもみんなのキャラはつぶやくｗ)読みやすいと言うか読みやめられない本ですね。

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>>20359420
>>20359421
>>20359422
>>20359430
>>20359482
I meant writing practice. I already know all of these and a bunch of other words from anki vocab mining.

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>>20359494
がああ違う*多くなりますとタイポしてしまった

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>>20359496
Oh ok, check this out and look up the stroke order on jisho.
http://nihongo.monash.edu/jouyoukanji.html

[Anonymous No.]

verbs have tenses
kaufmann fucked up tameni because his little old senile old man brain was in korean mode and he said something in korean instead it was cute
read and listen more and stop treating anki like a minor deity

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>>20358579
Steve has repeatedly stated that if he had many hours a day to learn a language it'd be faster if he studied the way he studied Chinese which involved flashcards with words. Stop quoting him out of context.

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>>20359509
Thanks man I'll definitely use this.

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>>20359515
steve doesn't use flashcards for memorization

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>>20359519
Actually he kinda does because he uses an SRS features in lingq, but learn to read your retarded ESL because that's not even what I said. I said that given as many hours a day to learn languages as he did with Chinese he said he'd memorize vocab using flashcards. As an old man with a business he only spends about 1 or 2 hours on a language at most.

[Anonymous No.]

the efficiency paradox: as long as something is "good enough", then the less efficient it is and long it takes to use it, the more and better they will remember it, and the longer they will talk about and recommend it

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>>20359526
i'm a native speaker of english i just know more about steve than you which you would have considered if you weren't pretentious and thought about the meaning of my post for more than five seconds
he doesn't even grade himself on his cards he just looks at them and answers whatever
he puts everything on the same side lol

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>>20359531
>i just know more about steve than you
Apparently not because he said he'd attempt to deliberately memorize vocab if he had as much time as he did when he learned Chinese.

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>>20359538
citation needed

there isn't one he was talking about flashcards

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>>20359541
>there isn't one he was talking about flashcards
He already uses flashcards in the way you described (all info on front), so he must be talking about the kinds of flashcards he used when he learned Chinese. ESL?

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>>20359549
is that the only word you know? again, i'm a native speaker of english, i already said so
you're not very good at using your brain man
he almost never actually uses flashcards he was saying that he would use them systematically (like he did for chinese) instead of haphazardly
he also didn't say it would be a good idea, just that he would do it and implied he'd see results
seeing results doesn't make something a good idea

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>>20359527
This is why most recommend reading as soon as it's possible to do so without spending hours and hours fucking about with a dictionary.

Honestly, the more pages you read in the day, the easier it gets. Every single day. If you buy physical LNs and stumble into unknown words I recommend just writing a quick jp-jp definition on the page so when you see it again and forget it, you can quickly refer to it. Or draw a pic, idc, anything that helps keep you from breaking your immersion later on.

Most LN pages have around 300-500 characters depending on words/density/spacing. The faster you can get your reading down to around a page per minute while getting everything, the closer you are to god mode. It really IS about quantity here because the faster you can read, the more often you will see unknown stuff and get used to it. It's a natural SRS but not if you have to refer to the dictionary every 10 seconds.

You can't fully appreciate this until you finally do reach the point where you've just cleared like 30 pages in a row without consulting the dictionary a single time.

Antimoon recommended like 60 pages a WEEK for reading but that seems like the bare minimum. That should be the goal EVERY DAY imo, if not more, but with Japanese it's an arduous road to reach that point.

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>>20359572
>I recommend just writing a quick jp-jp definition on the page
What the fuck is wrong with you
Just leave the fucking tab up online or something, don't write definitions on your books, holy shit

[Anonymous No.]

>>20359572
if you're going to physical everything then get a notebook like a good kid

[Anonymous No.]

>>20359584
>leave the fucking tab up online
forever?
dudes talking about for days or months later
of course hes wrong you only need the reading not a definition

[Anonymous No.]

>>20359599
jamal i know what you're saying but when you didn't learn your basic 1250 vocab from english subtitled anime (which functions as definitions btw) then you gotta look up some definitions at the start or nothing's gonna make sense or you're gonna have to eat like 100 epic volumes of manga to make it work ftw

[Anonymous No.]

that wasnt me dude i just fuckin got here

[Anonymous No.]

oh sup jamal pretend they were roleplaying as you

[Anonymous No.]

>>20359602
bone a petite

[Anonymous No.]

lol writing in the margins of your books ftw definitely do this

also i guess as long as youre watchin anime all that other stuff is good (‘～` )

[Anonymous No.]

>>20359557
>he almost never actually uses flashcards he was saying that he would use them systematically (like he did for chinese) instead of haphazardly
So then you actually agree with me and people do quote Steve out of context? It's really hard to believe that you're not ESL but you insist that you aren't so I'll have to take your word for it.
>seeing results doesn't make something a good idea
Thankfully no one cares what you consider good.

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>>20359631
>lol writing in the margins of your books ftw definitely do this
jamal confirmed for false idol
>>20359634
that wasn't be dumbass get some basic social awareness and stop assuming things about people

[Anonymous No.]

fuck 4channel bring back 4chan and my dudes fuckin arms

[Anonymous No.]

>>20359631
>as long as youre watchin anime
And they said anime isn't reading.

[Anonymous No.]

Mmmm, yes. Just go watch unsubbed anime and read through manga 1 word per 5minutes until you understand it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20359638
he has more character when you have to fill in the arms with your minds eye

[Anonymous No.]

>>20359643
no you definitely want eng subbed anime until youve done it for 10000 hours then you dont need the subs anymore

[Anonymous No.]

>>20359643
one word should not take you 5 minutes that sounds like youre looking up definitions
you just read it which will indeed be slow starting out
and watch that unsubbed anime
but as they say in japanese
ganbaro ne?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20359643
no, read your manga 10 words per minute until you understand it
if you can do this you will gradually start to understand it and gradually start to learn japanese
i'm not shitposting, it's what i did. it works. pure input works.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20359637
i dont mean do it as a real tactic to learn anything just draw wieners and stuff

[Anonymous No.]

>>20359631
>he doesn't annotate his books

Did you even finish high school my dude? Making notes in your books is an effective strat for reading on any level, whether you're making notes about the deeper meaning of shit or even if you're just writing out a definition so you don't have to guess at it later on. This can also help highlight your progress when you read the same book again later on, as you will be able to see where you were/what you were thinking/what you didn't know before.

If you're too cool to take the pen to the page, use sticky notes or something, but don't pretend that proven working learning strats don't work.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20359656
also i didn't look anything up just looked across it and sounded it out (furigana for epic win ftw)

[Anonymous No.]

>>20359656
this guy gets it
>>20359657
show and tell day post your margins

[Anonymous No.]

>>20359658
wait why did you @ me please hang up and try your post again lol

[Anonymous No.]

i just had a ftw idea that might help at least one djt victim finally make it
strip the definitions out of a converted dictionary file for your favorite mouseover dictionary so its just readings
how can you fuck up when your mother was thoughtful enough to give you child safe scissors

[Anonymous No.]

by jamming them straight down my dick hole and then swiftly spreading the scissors to cut my dick wide open from the inside

[Anonymous No.]

not everyone has the patience or intelligence to just read and listen so DJT should include a guide for people who aren't smart

[Anonymous No.]

i said fuck up
if thats what you want for yourself youre not really fucking up are you

[Anonymous No.]

>>20359692
ok
1) do useless bullshit for two years, it doesn't matter what
2) if you're still trying to learn japanese then start reading and listening

[Anonymous No.]

guide for anons who cant read or listen
you cant make it

[Anonymous No.]

>>20359699
oh but you can

[Anonymous No.]

>>20359703
its in the filename my man

[Anonymous No.]

>>20359709
thats not a problem depending on who u ask : )

[Anonymous No.]

>>20359715
who knew that this whole time the meme was a strategy to help the people who arent smart learn nihongo

[Anonymous No.]

>>20359692
If you lack the patience to read and listen, you also lack the patience to learn Japanese.

There's no shame in selecting an easier language like French, anon. French media is generally high-quality anyway.

[Anonymous No.]

but is there a girl on yt wearing a full graphic sailor moon shirt that can teach me how to understand the french op for sailor moon

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZSWsQMP9ec

[Anonymous No.]

>>20359768
id rather understand the german op for nartuo

[Anonymous No.]

>>20359663
ああすいません邪丸先生、その@は　
>>20359590
>>20359584
にそもそも向けしましてよろしく

[Anonymous No.]

nani

-nuke marine 2018

[Anonymous No.]

>>20359872
eets ew demo ee yo
-someone with shitty japanese, 2018

[Anonymous No.]

I came across this "一句" while reading 戦国妖狐:
"""
五月雨は
嬉し涙や 不如帰
我は至れり
雲の上まで
"""
I was wondering what kind of grammar is used for "至れり" as well as it's specific meaning. Any help would be much appreciated, thanks.

[Anonymous No.]

you could just learn about that 四段 shit and 已然形 shit but why not just do pic related

[Anonymous No.]

>>20359954
some people need to analyze grammar to be able to feel
its a serious problem

[Anonymous No.]

>>20359966
多分読んだり感じたりすると理解します
文法は自然に学んだホウがいいと。

[Anonymous No.]

ill give you a real tip that none of these yt fakes are capable of giving you

至れり the verb itself is doing what you prolly think it does then take the り put it in romanji (ri) and flip the letters to ir and then say ir in japanese out loud and then feel the blinding flash of satori as you never get lost on this type of thing ever again cuz now you know what it signifies

prolly still too cryptic but ill pass the mostly done rubix cube to my lil homies to finish it

[Anonymous No.]

>>20360034
itare iru tteiu no desu ka

[Anonymous No.]

you still gotta fill in a blank there to make it right in japanese

[Anonymous No.]

>>20360094
itareteiru

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

oreha nemuritai kara nemureri youwo suru

[Anonymous No.]

imagine flashtarding for literally years and then booting up a videogame and losing before you even get to the title screen lol https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dO9aabRrwE8

[Anonymous No.]

shit maybe ill be ready after core20k

[Anonymous No.]

What was djt like before Jamal? Not hating jw.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20360144
imagine that actually being your downfall though i bet even memorizing a mojipittan dictionary would be enough to read that

[Anonymous No.]

>>20355818
the first haiku that has spoken to me on any level.

[Anonymous No.]

hey im going to makudonarudos you guys want anything

[Anonymous No.]

>>20360177
a lot worse objectively go look at those archives or whatever

[Anonymous No.]

>>20360183
yeah get me a makuramen and a makubiggugokkun

[Anonymous No.]

get me the salad the mcdonlad salad and a diet coke

[Anonymous No.]

>>20358298
on mac the fix is:

rm -rf /Applications/Anki.app/ ${HOME}/Library/Application\ Support/Anki2

it will be slightly different on linux or windows

[Anonymous No.]

>>20359526
He's said he might consider using flashcards if he had all day to study. If you know of a video where he said he definitely would please post it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20360318
Not on mac so no clue what that shit is but I ended up fixing it with the reposition function.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20359677
Penile inversion vaginoplasty should only be performed by a licensed professional.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20360387
if he would consider using flashcards in that situation that means he doesn't think memorizing vocab is necessarily bad...

[Anonymous No.]

>>20360183
>>20354763

[Anonymous No.]

>Penile inversion vaginoplasty
*laughs in suporn*

[Anonymous No.]

how did that get removed

[Anonymous No.]

>Mfw playing P4 in jap
These VA are miles better and i like the english dub to.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20360435
He's never said memorizing vocab is bad and his site even offers it as a function. He's just proof that it isn't necessary and that reading and listening should be the first priorities.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20360654
>He's never said memorizing vocab is bad
he said not to do it except in certain contexts. try reading the convo before butting in with dumb shit nobody disagrees with.

[Anonymous No.]

Is there anywhere I can test my JLPT level that's not the official JLPT site?

[Anonymous No.]

take the practice tests that come with the shin kanzen master books in the back. you need to test all the sections though not just answer some vocab questions and say ok im n1

[Anonymous No.]

>>20360664
>"If we are in the habit of doing our flashcards for 10 or 15 minutes a day then that's a good thing."

He's always promoted doing what you like over doing what works for him. Try listening to what someone says before misquoting them to support your position.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yyJvQ731D-E

[Anonymous No.]

>>20360707
maybe it's because you still haven't read the conversation but you're not posting anything that contradicts anything i've said. please stop responding to me.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20360675
Just assume you're 1 level lower than you think you are.

[Anonymous No.]

if youre thinking of classifying your nihongo ability by jlpt level you are always undoubtedly n5

[Anonymous No.]

When I'm watching with english subs on I feel like I know every single word they're saying. Then I shut them off and I drop down to like 40% comp. I guess this is why listening practice is so valuable.

[Anonymous No.]

if youre doing it right english subs will actually make your brain recognize japanese words which is like the most important shit as you progress your 10000 hours

[Anonymous No.]

>>20360941
You should really just be watching the English dub and imagining what you think the Nihongo sounds like.

10000 hours of that = ii desu ne

[Anonymous No.]

or just watch the subs and stop bein nubs

[Anonymous No.]

any japanese rap to help me with my immersion?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5yJxkhEhUFM

[Anonymous No.]

whats with all the otoge on the vita are jp girls alergic to pasokon

[Anonymous No.]

>>20361378
Jackie chan has some cool songs, not rap though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20361378
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BZPybBiABUc

>>20361440
prolly but thats not the main reason

[Anonymous No.]

Hey guys, I just realized that you can learn a language without flashcards and grammar books, this must mean they're shit.

[Anonymous No.]

just do it all then and stfu

[Anonymous No.]

>>20359193
at least it looks cool

[Anonymous No.]

>>20359193
Don't forget the bonus round which is using Kanji like Hiragana to spell words.

[Anonymous No.]

Day 30

[Anonymous No.]

Does anybody know some good podcasts like ひいきびいき or さくら通信

[Anonymous No.]

>>20361691
Hiragana comes from kanji you know

[Anonymous No.]

JSを催眠にかけて好き放題に犯すのはサイッコーだそうだ

[Anonymous No.]

>>20359631
>not having a notebook to write this in, then writing out a postit note and putting it on the page telling you what oage it's in in your motebook
seriously, that way you can take your definitions with you without having to carry your book around. Plus it keeps your books tidy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20361024
watashi mo ii to omoimasu

[Anonymous No.]

no way dude notebooks and posits get lost books dont and if your book finds its way to a different person someday its so much win to see someone elses dick scribbles in the margins

its something i appreciate more than ever in this digital age

[Anonymous No.]

>>20361509
hey guys i just realized that you can do whatever you want on top of reading and youll still learn japanese this is compelling evidence that you should do less reading and more of other shit
also kaufmann said that you have free will so if thats not an endorsement i dont know what is

[Anonymous No.]

>>20361767
true retention?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20362012

[Anonymous No.]

>思える

[Anonymous No.]

>>20362029
why 40% again count today?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20362035
>思えます

[Anonymous No.]

cuz hes starting to see the fuckin futility of it all

[Anonymous No.]

>>20362041
When there's nothing but the last batch of difficult cards I have too keep cycling through them to make sure I remember them since there aren't any other cards in between to let time pass.

[Anonymous No.]

set the learn ahead time to 0 in the settings and it will wait the full 10 minute step even if there are no cards left to review

[Anonymous No.]

>>20362049
give us a few examples

[Anonymous No.]

>>20361767
I remember when I just kept slamming space just to "finish" my grind for the day.

[Anonymous No.]

ah flashtards

[Anonymous No.]

>>20362029
beats mine desu

>more flunked words than new ones
omg i'm not learning anything aaaaaaah

[Anonymous No.]

anyone else get excited finding new grammar words? i just found たりとも in this book and its like i got a little dopamine hit

[Anonymous No.]

>>20362089
For you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20362056
恐縮 I tend to mess up きょう/きゅう readings often
被る hit again a few more times to make sure I don't mistake it with 破る
献立 kept reading it こんだつ
拗れる for some reason I really want to read it like 塗れる every time I see it
摩る forgot the す
叩き起す kept reading it as ただき

>>20362055
I'll try it, thanks

>>20362075
Is that 35 a day?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20362089
>grammar words

[Anonymous No.]

>>20361767
when i used anki i used it for like 110+ days in a row but i never felt proud of it like you do. why is that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20362096
Those words are all over the place desu. Considering you are just starting there are words there that won't be as essential to learn right now compared to others.

That's just how it should be. Keep going.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20362109
I really don't. I just figured we "needed" a daily anki shitposter.
>>20362117
>Those words are all over the place desu.
I suppose that's VN writing for you. The one I'm reading has like 4 different writers. Read in an EGS review that their writing styles are all noticeably different. Such is life

[Anonymous No.]

Today I shall remind them. Never forget.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20354346
>Manga is reading.
Manga is not reading. Neither are LNs, VNs or novels.

[Anonymous No.]

fucking rip what will we do now

[Anonymous No.]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=87qdxfJIz4E

[Anonymous No.]

>>20362166
Oh then no wonder VNs don't help people learn to read.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20354346
>Watching subbed anime is useless.
On that note, watching unsubbed anime is nothing but a source of constant headaches to me. Often I can't identify what the character said even when going back and replaying it over and over again. More than once I gave up, downloaded the raw manga and then searched for the page with that exact moment so I could read what was said. Last one was pic related. No matter how many times I replayed the sentence I swear to god he was saying このける.

I fucking hate listening comprehension so fucking much. I can read this whole fucking volume without major issues but I can't watch 1 fucking episode without my head exploding. I don't even know what to do at this point.

[Anonymous No.]

hey guys not trying to brag or anything but this popped up in the dojg anki deck
>に関して
and i correctly guessed both its meaning and reading. not too shabby huh?

[Anonymous No.]

comprehensible > not comprehensible

[Anonymous No.]

>>20362196
It takes time, but not as much as you might think. If you can easily read the manga I highly recommend going full RAW for a couple of weeks. Just start out with easier stuff. Kemonofriends, Shirokuma Cafe, Usagi Drop and stuff like that.
Just don't concentrate too much and take it easy. It won't be faster if you are too hard with yourself. Just don't use subs, not even japanese ones. It will mostly do nothing, especially not for someone on your level.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20362202
へぇぇ... nothing but beginner's luck.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20362196
>Often I can't identify what the character said even when going back and replaying it over and over again.
dont break the flow to repeat it unless you are somewhat confident you will understand it if you do
you suck at japanese so theres a lot that is going to be over your head and you need to get used to it
you are spending way too much time on the shit you need to let go
keeping a dictionary and a grammar guide open is study but language isnt acquired through study its acquired through every bit that you figure out effortlessly
you probably miss things in english more often than you think but if it doesnt seem important you might not even recognize that you missed it because you dont consciously care

[Anonymous No.]

>>20362166
I know this is a meme, but what do you guys actually mean by this? If it's not reading, what is it called? And what if someone is only interested in manga and other otaku stuff and doesn't give a shit about newspapers and high literature? Do the Japanese even have a single internationally acclaimed novel writer in the league of Dostoevsky or similar? I think I have never heard about any nip writer in my life.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20362196
You could watch series with jp subs then rip the audio and relisten a bunch of times

[Anonymous No.]

>>20362313
>what do you guys actually mean by this?
some are purely shitposting
some have good intentions for you from all kinds of places
dont get trapped in the mindset that manga is all you can handle
get in the deep end for greater progress
yomichan can double the amount of reading you can get done and more reading is more progress
but fun is important and theres nothing wrong with relaxing with some manga
>If it's not reading, what is it called?
manga is eating
>other otaku stuff
manga isnt reading is the only meme here
>a single internationally acclaimed novel writer in the league of Dostoevsky
tanaka romeo

[Anonymous No.]

>>20362400
Thanks for this constructive answer! お疲れ様です!

Btw. is Chaika recommended for beginners? I figure that her retard speech could be easier to understand and I presume she uses simpler grammar like a foreigner would. Or do you think it will just confuse and hurt more than it helps?

[Anonymous No.]

>retard speech

[Anonymous No.]

>>20362135
...not the shit poster we need,
but the shitposter we deserve...

[Anonymous No.]

yea most hentai games are a shitty mess if multiple writers cuz usually one is just way better than the rest

[Anonymous No.]

>>20362461
havent seen it watched a few lines of dialogue
might help you single out some vocab you missed since theres not much filler in her speech
if you enjoy it at all its probably going fine
dont worry about help vs hurt just try shit and stick with the things you want to the most

[Anonymous No.]

which route is way better than the rest in ley line

[Anonymous No.]

in other words https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=15tUzlriGDI

[Anonymous No.]

what some people want to do they need to be turned away from
but if its anime and reading youll find your path

[Anonymous No.]

every time i feel like i got a little bit closer to japanese they throw a curveball like ジャンプを決めている

[Anonymous No.]

would it kill them to just make some english sounds? it's not "junpu" it's jump. christ.

[Anonymous No.]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=816VLQNdPMM

I think this video proves that reading cripples your accent and that accent can't be acquired after childhood. I found it on ****'s favorites list so that's probably where he got the idea from.

[Anonymous No.]

its not junpu its jyampu

[Anonymous No.]

>>20362629
>ジャンプを決めている
What's wrong with that?

[Anonymous No.]

what does つけとく mean?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20362669
つけておく

[Anonymous No.]

what does tuketeoku mean

[Anonymous No.]

>>20362667
what exactly is it trying to say? from conext i assume its a dolphin who is jumping but what does 決める have to do with it
like if someone is siting on a toioet taking a dump could you say ダンプを決めている？

[Anonymous No.]

>>20359420
>>20359643
>>20359656
>>20362255
Manga isn't reading though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20362647
not watching all of that but seems like he could save a lot of time by saying that consciously learning a skill wont give you acquisition

[Anonymous No.]

>>20362687
There are a few つける but from the image I imagine it's 浸ける in ておく

[Anonymous No.]

>>20362694
the subject is actively in the state where they have decided that they will jump
think less read more

[Anonymous No.]

>>20360951
This is why people hate 4ch. Stupid bullshit like this.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20362707
youre stupid and your face is stupid

[Anonymous No.]

>>20362647
It's truly interesting what he is saying and his kid really does seem to be impressive. However I think this theory is somewhat debunked by modern neuroscience. Currently there seems to be the notion that the brain is completely plastic and everything can be learned at any time. There are probably no programms that babies have the somehow get shut down over time. But there are two factors that make it way more difficult for grown ups. Time and focus. A baby simple doesn't have much else to do besides learning to grip / walk and talk. Then there are parents almost always present who feeds it with stimuly. It's almost impossible to reproduce these conditions with grown ups. I can't say this about perfect pitch, but I know a guy who managed to learn my native language in about three years as pitch perfect as it gets. Nobody would suspect him to come from a different background. He isn't even that smart, it's just something he really cared about and took special lessons for it. Hell there are even death people who speak almost perfectly, just by training.

[Anonymous No.]

yeah not reading all that 69 decides what i read next

[Anonymous No.]

>>20360951
Now I see, it actually gives context to the words you're hearing, nice one.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20362734
薬屋のひとりごと the webnovel

[Anonymous No.]

>>20362730
>by modern peudoscience
please do not invoke neuroscience as evidence for anything but statistical malpractice and fraudulence.

[Anonymous No.]

just read these threads instead its basically the same innit lol

[Anonymous No.]

>>20362673

is that a dialect of japanese that is not the standard tokyo dialect?

[Anonymous No.]

oh my god amateur hour ついに来ました

[Anonymous No.]

ついに芸になる

[Anonymous No.]

He's proud that he bought a 30$ book/lifted the pdf off of the DJT website and learned all of what we can learn with our 9$/month sub on Wanikani.

Which is pretty cool, he just wants to be smug about it. I just prefer spending 9$ a month to not have to invent wild stories for 2000 kanji, and still be able to read Yotsuba&.

I like the Tofugu style and Koichi and team's general vibe so I'm sticking with my 9$ sub as will many others.

[Anonymous No.]

いつもゲイ

[Anonymous No.]

https://youtu.be/EuFHEsC3r7Y
What did they do to aggro them? Did they died?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20362760
hey i dont think youre giving him enough credit LOL

[Anonymous No.]

>>20362760
Koohii website has had stories for a decade. It's just morons that tell people to make up their own stories that cause problems.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20362748
No it's just normal contraction in every day speech.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20362766
looks like a typical case of https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3oIbztWsY8g

[Anonymous No.]

>>20362730
>brain is completely plastic and everything can be learned at any time. There are probably no programms that babies have the somehow get shut down over time.
ive not looked into it myself but arent a couple examples of kids who learned no language commonly thrown around to suggest abilities are lost
i think some core functions of the brain have an initial growth pattern encoded in dna and parts of the brain that are never stimulated may gradually disappear
but if you ever use that part of your brain at all you will have no issue building onto it
however
>>20362745
this correct no one knows anything in neuroscience right now

[Anonymous No.]

blackpill me on neuroscience why is it pseudoscience

[Anonymous No.]

>>20362793
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABGiqizwCso

[Anonymous No.]

>>20362793
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Replication_crisis

[Anonymous No.]

my fave guys are the ones that read about science on the internet and think they are suddenly allowed to talk about it like they know anything LOL

[Anonymous No.]

>>20355044
It's not a long-term solution because you will just build up a tolerance to them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20362812
i know some people spend a lot of money on toilet paper that says they know something but sometimes truth hurts

[Anonymous No.]

>>20362829
eat more fiber so it hurts less

[Anonymous No.]

>>20362831
thats what im sayin you can be happy knowing what you dont know

[Anonymous No.]

>>20362808
damn i blame the university slavedrivers making our phd retards dance like monkeys for their grants

[Anonymous No.]

are people bragging about reading yotuba now its main character is a little retard like being proud of understanding that is a little.... yeah

[Anonymous No.]

4chan girl knows more about the real real world than any of you so stfu

edit 4channel

[Anonymous No.]

>>20362837
shits all over though
in terms of money reputation career self worth theres no motivation to verify your findings or anyone elses
conflicting results should be exciting but so often they are viewed as a mistake to fix

[Anonymous No.]

So how many youtube celebrities have endorsed the RATTATA method? This is very important,

[Anonymous No.]

who and waht?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20362913
has anyone maybe someone should capitalize on that shit

[Anonymous No.]

>>20362788
There aren't really good examples of kids like these. There are some stories about wild dog children, but those are mostly made up or not verifiable. A popular case is this one, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genie_(feral_child).. But I think it doesn't really help that much, considering the mental and probably physical damage to this kid and the little time the researchers had with her. You shouldn't forget that a normal child has needs about 2 years to aquire something we can barely recognize as speech. And this is with a complete fresh brain that takes in everything new like a sponge.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20362953
i can already here the sirens in the distance as nintendo drops nukemarine on his patreon

[Anonymous No.]

>>20362966
all valid
even with benefit of the doubt that language acquisition ability was in fact lost extrapolating that to kids who have acquired a first language and dont have extremely severe trauma is clearly questionable

[Anonymous No.]

>>20362999
Yeah it's hard to tell really, I'm basically on his side:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Critical_period_hypothesis#Piaget

[Anonymous No.]

just fuckin embrace 2d ftw

[Anonymous No.]

>>20363011
might read more into it thanks

[Anonymous No.]

the critical period is about the first language / building the language faculty, not language acquisition in general as a functioning adult

but yes if you fail to learn your first language properly you will be literally retarded, it happens to deaf kids and also kids with deaf parents

[Anonymous No.]

and so another thread comes to a close

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gkt5nT60xBA#t=249

[Anonymous No.]

the critical period is the very first anime you watch if you like it then your journey to nihongo will be blessed

[Anonymous No.]

thats the real shit

[Anonymous No.]

>>20358817
he mixed it up with korean

[Anonymous No.]

>>20363285
yeah i can't believe anybody here actually thought he was trying to say something with japanese phonetics there

[Anonymous No.]

thats the problem with polygloats they just invent their own mutt of a language

[Anonymous No.]

what do you expect from a racemixer, you have to be seriously mentally fucked to ruin your entire genetic lineage because your dick feels good

[Anonymous No.]

>>20363483
unironically agreed

[Anonymous No.]

>>20363483
imagine unironically caring about your genetic lineage whether youre a racist or not

[Anonymous No.]

>>20363497
t. mutt

[Anonymous No.]

>>20363497
I mean there's people that think the month they were born in is super important..

[Anonymous No.]

>>20362647
perfect pitch can be developed after childhood though, it just requires conscious effort. see Chuan C. Chang's Fundamentals of Piano Practice

[Anonymous No.]

>>20363520
nah that dude challenges people who claimed to have developed it in adulthood and they all end up not having it

[Anonymous No.]

i have perfect pitch and it definitely manifested during my yung days

[Anonymous No.]

How is there people saying it takes 7 years to get fluent? I can't imagine how it could unless they're studying like an hour a day and they've never done any immersion. I just replace all of my content with japanese and study about 4 hours a day and I notice huge gains daily. the only part that was slow was donig kanji and now I'm learning at neck breaking speeds.

[Anonymous No.]

some people are so fuckin bad that it takes them a decade to just become functional in the language

tho people are retards and overblow shit when they should just be blowing me

[Anonymous No.]

>>20363648
I wouldn't say 7 years for "fluency", whatever that means, but your progress is most obvious in the beginning because you are learning the common stuff. Filling in all the little gaps is enormously time consuming. Anyone who has studied for less than 4 years full time and isn't embarrassed of their Japanese has low standards.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20363739
if you're embarrassed at your skill after 4 years then you probably didn't do ajatt, which will grant you fluency in 3 years.

[Anonymous No.]

never worrying about your proficiency and just having fun and after a decade or so finding yourself hella legit is really the way to go

[Anonymous No.]

>>20363757
if you took 3 years to get fluent then you probably didnt do rattata which will grant you fluency in 6 months

[Anonymous No.]

you don't practice speaking or listening with rattata. with ajatt you cover all those things. that's why people like khatz and **** are gods.

[Anonymous No.]

you practice listening when you read its called subvocalization but you can just remember to read more and not worry
>practice speaking

[Anonymous No.]

why would you want to talk to a japanese person anyways

[Anonymous No.]

>>20363794
because you want to ruin your entire genetic lineage

[Anonymous No.]

ask them for recommendations on obscure math rock

[Anonymous No.]

>>20363794
How am I to l fulfill my dream of making a Japanese housewive fall for me and train her into all sorts of kinky anal stuff if I can't speak?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20363794
where else do i find likeminded individuals who understand subahibi on anything but a surface level

[Anonymous No.]

speaking of which subahibi screenshots look easy now maybe its time for some compelling content

[Anonymous No.]

wait a sec you can't nitpick his speaking ability but then question why someone would wanna speak in the first place.

are you telling me people only shit on him to be dicks and aren't critiquing from a position of competence?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20363794
to communicate?

[Anonymous No.]

people shit on him because he threatens their worldview with a frightening potential
what if ive wasted hundreds of hours of my life on something that doesnt help me learn japanese
the dinosaur with ten languages made a mistake i can use that to validate my approach

[Anonymous No.]

つけとくってなんだろ

いみはわかるけど

なんかへんなにほんごだとおもう

[Anonymous No.]

はしるてもね

[Anonymous No.]

>>20363957
いや

わからん

[Anonymous No.]

代わりになんええよ

wtf does naneeyo mean? it's either slang japanese or some dialect of japanese

it is nannai? is that even a word in japanese?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20364168
かわりになんねーは

かわりになりませんの

とうきょうことばの

おとこことばだよ

[Anonymous No.]

>>20364181

oh nan ne

durrr

that extra えconfused me

[Anonymous No.]

>>20364189
おんなことばはたぶん

えーかわりにならなくない

だよ

[Anonymous No.]

>>20363932
From that yotsuba page?

[Anonymous No.]

What kanji is this?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20364333
曰く?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20364322
みずにつけとく

モニタつけとく

はつおんがちがうから

ことばがちがうとおもう

>>20364335
ちがうとおもう

まんなかのせんがもっとうえ

[Anonymous No.]

>>20364333

日
it means day in japanese

hi/nichi

[Anonymous No.]

>>20364335
>>20364359
Come back when you know Japanese, plebs

[Anonymous No.]

>>20364333
putting my money on thats not a kanji

[Anonymous No.]

>>20364373
そのフォントおかしいよ

[Anonymous No.]

>>20364373

ちょっと日本語が話せます

[Anonymous No.]

>>20364429

てめええ
あんたにほんごはんせませんじゃない

[Anonymous No.]

うんこたべたのがじょうず

[Anonymous No.]

まんことおしりからのまいたい

[Anonymous No.]

>>20364448

のみたい＊

[Anonymous No.]

おれのにほんごがへたですでもたのしい

[Anonymous No.]

おっぱいすきだな
おんなのことセックスしたい
ちんこがくちをいれる

[Anonymous No.]

>>20364457
日本語が楽しいから
皆も頑張れ

[Anonymous No.]

I still don't really understand kana. Is it's purpose really just for the pronunciation of foreign words or sound effects? It's confusing when i'm trying to read a sentence and seeing a couple of Kana vocab that looks like a word but has no matter how hard I look.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20364701
れんしゅうしよ

にほんごっぽいピッチで

にほんごっぽいはやさで

[Anonymous No.]

>>20364494
chill on your ふ
歯を使わない

[Anonymous No.]

>>20364494
ききとりやすい

カニたべたい

おんせん

いっしょにおんせんいきたい

[Anonymous No.]

>>20364731
エッチなことかも

[Anonymous No.]

>>20364777
てをつなぐとか？

[Anonymous No.]

>>20364821
いいですね
後は膝枕とか

[Anonymous No.]

where do I get non-fiction books from in Japanese? i don't want to pay for shit, the books aren't expensive but actual shipping...

I'd also like to read "Dragonbook" from Dragon Box and newest book of my favourite idol, where the fuck do I download that shit from, nips must share those PDFs right

[Anonymous No.]

わたしたちはゲイだった

[Anonymous No.]

本当にゲイだった

[Anonymous No.]

今日の日本語の言葉はねだる。
皆さんは自分のおねだり経験が書いてください。
日本語が楽しいって思い出せるといい。
頑張りましょう！

[Anonymous No.]

その感じ。レゴと同じ。
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9PKCB2aXe1I&t=46s

[Anonymous No.]

http://i.4cdn.org/jp/1543951483161.jpg
anti vs drone

[Anonymous No.]

I've encountered 寒い many times while reading and yet I still never remember it correctly, instead recalling "あすい". Even after typing it here I guarantee I'll forget the reading. When are people going to accept that reading is a meme?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20365552
i knew samui from my prerequisite english subbed anime hours before i ever started learning japanese just follow all the steps its ez

[Anonymous No.]

just remember its on the kick drum lol https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fGT1QRyVYvY#t=23

[Anonymous No.]

>>20365552
I remember it because it was one of the first words in 2k/6k anki deck.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20365570
fuckin sick

[Anonymous No.]

unironically this>>20365569

[Anonymous No.]

Dont mind me trying extensions for furigana
私
何
僕
今日

[Anonymous No.]

learn some better words
今夜
寝転ぶ
桃色
パイ刷り

[Anonymous No.]

>>20365916
ありがとう！

[Anonymous No.]

>>20365916
sorry i have no time tonight

[Anonymous No.]

Works but how do I keep the settings saved for the next time I open Firefox?

[Anonymous No.]

what extension is that?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20365965
Furiganaize, I am trying multiple ones though.

[Anonymous No.]

why is 知千佳　＝　ともちか？
and why does yomichan not with with it?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20365949
Why don't you just open up an actual nip site and see how bad the extension is in practice?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20365972
>mooom why doesn't my dictionary have names in it?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20365895
>>20365949
There's literally no reason to use furigana in a web browser when jisho and rikai exist

[Anonymous No.]

>>20366000
Just to make that faster instead of having to look up the reading every time I forget it.

[Anonymous No.]

youll learn more from this than all djt threads combined past present and future https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xMTCRuBJYkA

[Anonymous No.]

>sentence ending particle kana is just the particles ka and na together
Jamal was right about that dolly

[Anonymous No.]

>>20366005
Looking up a word's readings is 1 mouse move away though

[Anonymous No.]

>>20366021
What does this even mean.
Of course かな is "ka" and "na"

[Anonymous No.]

ka - question
na - directed to yourself
kana - like asking yourself/uncertainly/I wonder

[Anonymous No.]

if you want to get good at japanese there is no reason for furigana
it doesnt help with anything

[Anonymous No.]

yeah if you can read japanese dictionaries you should just lookup everything you learned in english and see whats really meant. really simple stuff like から and かな and でも itll blow your mind

[Anonymous No.]

haha yea nihongos crazy

[Anonymous No.]

its more like the way japanese is taught in english is so retarded that when you figure out what stuff really means it makes so much more sense and its like youve been lied to

[Anonymous No.]

did jamal just post 6 times in a row?

[Anonymous No.]

i only posted 2 of the 6

[Anonymous No.]

we're all jamal now

[Anonymous No.]

wish you weren't too cool to use the reply feature

[Anonymous No.]

>>20354260
I'm just starting out grinding kanji.
Is it normal for me to be recognizing the kanji meanings far more easily than remembering the pronunciations of the kanji?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20366334
first of all explain how you are grinding kanji

[Anonymous No.]

>>20366338
Anki, Core2K/6K.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20366341
like youre just flashcarding words written in kanji? yeah that might be normal if youre looking at it visually and thinking what the word is supposed to mean before remembering the pronunciation. once you master the word that wont happen youll just read the pronunciation and instantly know the meaning

[Anonymous No.]

cool thing about japanese is that it snowballs, the more words you know the easire it is to aquire new words because you know that parts of the word already. Seems like the first 3k words is equal to the next 7k

[Anonymous No.]

also the more fluent you become the easier it is to acquire japanese in general since your brain is set up to store it properly. like think about how easy it is to learn a new english word then imagine it being like that in japanese

[Anonymous No.]

yea I can't wait

[Anonymous No.]

>>20366334
Same anon asking dumb questions again.
If i'm just starting to develop my vocab, is it worth doing Tae Kim at the same time?
Or is it mostly useless at this point, as long as i know its Subject, Object, Verb.

[Anonymous No.]

imo if youre going to study grammar its a lot easier to know all the vocab being used in the example sentences so you can purely focus on the grammar but i know thats hard when youre a beginner. also a lot of ppl just anki tae kim sentences and it seems to work

[Anonymous No.]

How much vocab do you mine in a day? I shoot for one a day but that's because I don't mine every unknown word.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20366380
This. Really makes the language progressively easier

[Anonymous No.]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6dChKENkLLk