DJT - Daily Japanese Thread #2053

[Anonymous No.]

This is a Japanese language learning thread for people interested in anime, manga, visual novels, light novels and Japanese video games.
If you have no interest in the above or want to request a translation, this is not the thread for you.

Read the guide before asking questions.
https://djtguide.neocities.org/

Previous: >>20310523

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I went to a Japanese restaurant today

“irasshai mase! nan mei sama desu ka?”
h-hitori desu
“kochira e douzo”
*walks away for few minutes and comes back*
“gochuumon wa okimari desu ka?”
hi, oyakodon wo mittsu onegai shimasu
“onomi mono wa?”
koka koora e-eru saizu futatsu onegai shimasu
*she then looks at me all funny*
“hai, shoushou omachi kudasai”
When I was eating my meal the whole staff looked at me all funny! I will never eat in again.

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Why is it 北斗のけん and not 北斗のこぶし?

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Sure do tae Kim. Any videos/articles/guides in English about Japanese are ok, even if they’re not the best, you’ll come across a better explanation later but It’s best to just stick with adequate instead of searching in vain for some perfect source. But also just remember that they’re there to get the “feel” for Japanese don’t expect to memorize the English resources’ contrived Japanese and for Pete’s sake don’t try to study them. Methodically take 10 mins per day, binge for 3 hours once in a while, or only search for explanations ad hoc, do whatever you want to do. Your affective filter is the limiting factor not source quality/a theoretically optimized study schedule.

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>>20322968
there's nothing wrong with them, they're not obscure or explained wrong anything. it's just that they're not absurdly common to the point of being unavoidable like everything else in tae kim.

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>>20323368
>thread for people interested in anime, manga, visual novels, light novels and Japanese video games.
>posts random white dude

nice thread op

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>>20323567
random white dude pretty much sums up the average western otaku

[Anonymous No.]

new thread, thanks!

新スレ盾乙
新スレッド建てお疲れ様

>>20323449
because "ケン" is famous for the Japanese name.
"こぶし" is not a name.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R1i2D99ewjM

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People have started calling me 神殺し. I guess there is a certain ring to it, heh.

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people have started calling わたし ゲイ i guess there is a certain ring to it heh

[Anonymous No.]

*whips out dick*

*ゲイボイ　starts sucking it*

LOL stop it, you fuggen queer

[Anonymous No.]

its gayer to キス a dude than to しゃぶる his wiener

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How do you say milk truck in Japanese?
Do they have a specialized term?

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Anyboyd noticed the drought of new manga raws?

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>>20323839
i only usually read finished series.
is there a good place to look for raws of current series?

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>>20323799
Do you mean a milk float? Then obviously ミルク フロート:

https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E3%83%9F%E3%83%AB%E3%82%AF_%E3%83%95%E3%83%AD%E3%83%BC%E3%83%88

Otherwise you are looking for 集乳車:

https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E9%9B%86%E4%B9%B3%E8%BB%8A

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>>20323848
Doesn't really matter, nyaa and blogs like 13dl, manga-zone all have the same shit

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only i have access to the true cornucopia

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>>20323861
I just noticed half of the uploads are 雑誌寄せ集め
We're truly fucked

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>>20323854
Thanks a lot

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>>20323567
go away 2hu

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Are there any sites where you can buy LNs without or with easily strippable drm?
Bonus points for high quality illustrations.

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>>20323368
netlify update when?

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>ここの制服を着ているわけでもない誰かが、茂みの中で倒れてたんだから。
what does わけでもない mean here
I interpret this sentence as "ここの制服を着ていない誰かが、" so not sure what this is all about

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not that anon but this is why i don't know japanese. i've seen わけ used a billion different ways with a billion different bits of kana tacked on and i can never make sense of what it's actually doing beyond just figuring things out via context.

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>>20324016
someone who shouldnt even be wearing this places uniform
https://oshiete.goo.ne.jp/qa/4858795.html

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read ahead and see if they're reading one or not

either way you're interpreting it wrong since even if they aren't wearing one they're not saying that they're not wearing one yet

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wearing one or not*

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>>20324099
what it's saying is "someone who has no reason to be wearing this place's uniform..." then?

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>>20324043
>>20324099
They aren't wearing one

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>>20324129
then its just someone who isnt even wearing this places uniform

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>>20324142
Yeah that makes sense I see the subtlety, but still this use of わけ is kind of comfusing to me guess I'll have to get used to it

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What are the best sites for watching and downloading dramas?

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http://idontwork.asia/

[Anonymous No.]

Why is it so much harder to memorize nouns compared to adjectives, adverbs and especially verbs?

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>>20324166
Already done my 10000 hours of KOHH

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>>20323536
I see.
Nothing wrong with learning something uncommon I guess, as long it's not overly complex and a complete waste of a long time.

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>>20324174
kun is easier than on
verbs tend to be longer giving your brain more to latch onto
okurigana is a big help

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>>20324182
Thanks

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>>20324151
It's just a filler word so you can do grammar to it. An alternative would be 着てもいない, but that would place a different emphasis or something, idk.
You get a feel for it after a few years.

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filler wordというわけでもない

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how much did you guys struggle in the first few weeks or so? because fuck this language is hard

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my first weeks came and went without incident

i didnt even know they were my first weeks

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>>20324413
Get fucking good, scrub.

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watch teh dolleh to get uber 1337 n1h0ng0 skillz

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>>20324428
yeah, but how long does it take to notice any real progress? feels like i'm making zero progress and my mind is like a sieve

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You will never actually notice progress unless you look back on your career aside from 'clicks' you get while consuming time from time. Keep reading and shit will stick.

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thats because you dont deliberately target anything to learn and are just all over the place

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>>20324438
what are you doing

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>>20324413
I'm months in and the extreme "I don't want to do this because of how incomprehensible everything is" struggle hasn't ended or really been alleviated much so get used to it. People will lie to you about how much easier it immediately gets in order to make you feel better.

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maybe stop doing things that fall under the actual objective definition of "insane"

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>>20324482
a mix of the tae kim grammar and anki vocab like the sticky guides say

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>>20324486
Why would you even assume that when you're a newbie yourself? You haven't seen the other side of the bridge yet. When you stop being a pussy and actually try to get good you'll see if it was all really a lie or not.

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>>20324507
I didn't tell him it won't get easier month 6 because I don't know if it does.

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>>20324503
so you arent learning japanese yet youre just memorizing some shit in it
>>20324486
is this also the case for you

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定義(ていぎ)の意味や定義 Weblio辞書

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>>20324547
>so you arent learning japanese yet youre just memorizing some shit in it

well that's what the guide said man

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>>20324575
the shit you are doing isnt useless but its not acquiring japanese
someone replace the guide with https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NiTsduRreug

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guides fucken bullocks mate no one ever got good from it

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>>20324604
what's the best way then?

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The way is reading TK fast as fuck then reading and mining and reading about grammar but not memorizing grammar and then reading

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>>20324413
>the first few weeks

If you think its hard just a few weeks in you may as well stop.

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>>20324647
get proficient before finding djt or any of these aids english speaking nihongo learning purgatories

its the only way

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https://streamable.com/0czbo
Japanese people are basically rap gods. First step to learning nihongo is realizing, at best, you're going to sound like a 5 year old with downs when you talk.

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>>20324601
so if he's right, i should watch some super basic children's education vids or shows, like some dora the explorer shit, rather than do reading

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>>20324685
I don't get it

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>>20324691
Watch these.
Let's Learn Japanese Basic I: http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL97F8C94FBEBC24A6

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>>20324575
Dont listen to the guy posting one persons theory from the 70's.. he actually claims you don't learn through knowledge, which is fucking retarded. I mean there's some wisdom in what Krashner says about emersion and aquiring the ability to use the language but any polyglot will tell you that you need to learn the vocab and the only way to do it is to grind vocab. Also keep in mind all of the volumes of the Dictionary of Japanese Grammar are over 1200 pages of info. It's going to take a long time to truly "understanding" this language. Good luck say good bye to a few years of your life and grind as hard as you can on input all of the time because you're also forgetting constantly too. If you want a real guide check out the ajatt website, it's also full of motivational shit. Just stay away from mattvsjapan shitters.

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>>20324717
>but any polyglot will tell you that you need to learn the vocab and the only way to do it is to grind vocab
doesn't the existence of steve kaufmann kinda destroy this dumb theory of yours

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>>20324732
Kaufmann says two things thta I know of to support it. He says the #1 factor of if you know a language is how many vocabulary you know, he also spends the majority of his time doing vocab and grammar till he can read and then he still does vocab of words he finds. He doesn't use anki but he does do vocab drills of some sort, I guess with the linq'd website or something. Anki is better srs though.

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>>20323368
>#2053
One job, OP. One job.
This thread is #2054.

#2049: >>20274749
#2050: >>20281777
#2051: >>20289097
#2052: >>20299359
#2053: >>20310523

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>>20324716
got anything else similar to these?

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>>20324756
Sorry, the #2050 retard set his name as DJT instead of the subject so I was unable find his thread. Though this wouldn't have happened in the first place if people weren't trying to be funny in the OP.

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>>20324717
you don't know anything about language acquisition, stop posing

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>>20324772
do you want me to start posting the op again you may or may not be happy

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>>20324778
>ad hominem retard
Everybody has looked a word up in a dictionary, or asked somebody what a new word means and then understood it. You don't know anything about logic, stop posting.

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>>20324759
Besides the 2nd series nah.
Let's Learn Japanese Basic II: http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL9ABE61ADAD08A939

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>>20324794
it's not an ad hominem, you're not arguing or debating anything, you're just a stupid person spewing bullshit

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>>20324854
good retort brainlet

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>>20324856

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tards please just watch the yan san show and dont fight

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Somebody needs to make a Krashner cult meme, put his face on L. Ron Hubbard or something

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oh man is the person who keeps trying to shit on krashen really a bitter ajatt cultist that's fucking incredible

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>>20324794
>Everybody has looked a word up in a dictionary, or asked somebody what a new word means and then understood it.
if its in the same language both of those situations are input innit

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Litterally listening to a severly debunked guy from 1981's video.. Claims you can't learn by learning.
Nvm you're right, keep learning through magic, it will work.

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dumb, butter, and can't learn japanese

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>>20324901
but without context, that's not supposed to be possible, I know it's an "outrageous" claim, because it's a bull shit claim

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there is always context

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>Hey guys I found this video from 1981 that totally throws all of the thousands of other linguists and polyglots theories in the trash.
Being this naive.

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西暦二〇一八年―蛇丸の絶えぬ戯言せる大西日本語スレ戦争。屍山血河の中、西国の日本語独裁者魔っ斗がついに、動き始めた。

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none of those linguists or polyglots have ever learned a language from flashcards

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>>20324906
>severly debunked guy from 1981
80 minute version from 2017
>Claims you can't learn by learning
nah
>it will work.
that has been my experience
>>20324917
you are confused
if you understand it its good

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oh yeah also imagine thinking the input hypothesis is debunked lol

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Signed up for nipponese conversation classes today, because I dekiru input but realized I don't want to be an oral dekinai like matt-tachi.

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tards plz

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>>20324947
only thing stopping him is that he hates japanese people so he doesnt want to talk to them

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[Anonymous No.]

>Make flashcards that are 100% in your target language and involve pictures. You can do this using Fill-in-the-___ Sentences, either by hand or in a program like Anki. Flashcard tests like these are approximately five times more efficient for memorization than simply re-reading notes.
>Gabriel Wyner
>a real polyglot
But I still think you need to read and I know context is important. I'm only arguing that you need balance to both, too much of either pointless, BUT you can learn through knowledge for sure.

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>>20324967
>Flashcard tests like these are approximately five times more efficient for memorization than simply re-reading notes.
is there evidence that the difference in memorization had a large impact on the language acquired

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why is it that at the core of every debate here is a false dichotomy

like every argument can instantly be ended with just do both healthy balance and all that

lol

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>>20324943
only by everybody..

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>>20324989
its worth distinguishing that only one of the activities is acquiring language
the other has a synergistic effect on the next time you acquire language but does nothing by itself

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>>20324880
ajatters love krashen wtf r u on about

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>>20325052
Matt's cultists are mad about i+1 not meaning what Matt told them it means.

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芝で生まれて神田で育ち」というふるい文句があるが、私は芝でこそ生まれないが、ついそのお隣り区の銀座で生まれて十三年、早く明治三十年代に、その時分、駿河台の、多分いまの明大校舎の辺にあった、伯父の博士樫村氏の山竜堂病院に寄寓の時代、一たび神田との縁がむすばれ、それから後、多少の断続はあっても、四十年代の末ふたたび冨山房を通して神田とはなれぬ関係ができて、いつの間にか二十五年、かれこれ前後四十年にも近い、いわば人間のほぼ一代を、なんということなしに、神田界隈、というよりも、駿河台――神保町をむすぶ二町にも足りない、それこそ、まいまいつぶろの角よりも短い線の上を、往きつ戻りつ、どうやら過ぎて来たようである。

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>>20325059
they apply the theory incorrectly but they still love krashen. that's what khatz and antimoon told them to do.

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>>20325010
kinda but not really

p sure anyone with a brain knows you cant drone anki endlessly to learn a language and anyone without a brain will realize it once they try to read

and if people really cared about making the distinction they wouldnt save their explanation until someone challenges them to a heated you collecting battle

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do you guys think that one anon was right about trying to recall the meaning and readings of an entire clause after hovering over the unknown words with yomichan to make sure you're not just blindly/mindlessly hovering over every word and relying on yomichan too much?

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>>20325077
>and anyone without a brain will realize it once they try to read
but there are people who go like a year doing core10k and who don't read.

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>>20325077
>anyone without a brain will realize it once they try to read
that sounds like a more pleasant reality
>heated you collecting battle
oh shit i lost

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>>20325082
I didn't do that but I used Anki. Maybe if you're not doing Anki you might need to make an extra effort to test yourself.

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>>20324967
>Gabriel Wyner
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iBMfg4WkKL8
funny thing is that he uses anki but says you have to use it with context for it to be effective, if you're just using it with words you're probably doing it totally wrong

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i think if youre itt right now reading this youre a stupid piece of shit retard and that applies to me as well

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>>20325111
anti-sentence miners btfo

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>>20325111
>>20324967
>After reaching fluency in German in 14 weeks
Into the trash he goes

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>>20325111
subs2srs's were right the whole time, guess I need to learn how to make those now

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>>20325082
it might force you to put more attention into what youre reading
or it might make it less enjoyable

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>>20325082
I am that anon and for what it's worth this is where the idea comes from http://www.guidetojapanese.org/blog/2005/11/05/learning-vocab-tips/

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>>20325137
The faggot you're taking advice from seriously recommends spending 1-3 years to learn the most common 1000 Japanese words (in the context of sentences). Needless to say, he hasn't succeeded learning Japanese himself.
https://blog.fluent-forever.com/how-to-learn-japanese-or-chinese-update/

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>>20325177
>these languages are incredibly data heavy due to the characters

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>>20325177
This puts into perspective how incompetent most "polyglots" are and how powerful a tool immersion can be.

[Anonymous No.]

Could someone lend me a hand please?
I formatted my computer recently, and although I think set everything to it originally was before, somehow some emojis are not displaying as it should. They all work fine within my browser, just not in Windows.

Anyone has a clue?

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>>20325163
>then read over the sentence again and make sure you get the meaning of the sentence as a whole.
looking up words is an interruption
take in the whole sentence without interruption after looking up the new words
i do that sometimes

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>>20325082
Re-reading sentences after using rikai equivalents is pretty important, I think. It's extremely easy to look up a definition/reading and forget it easily. The extra time will solidify your understanding and save you time in the future since you'll be less likely to need to repeatedly pause to look the word up over the coming time.

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>>20325207
Immersion isn't a tool, it's a life style.

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>>20325177
>top 1000 words
>Once you complete those (this will take 1-3 years – these languages are incredibly data heavy due to the characters), you’re going to be at a high intermediate level
I know over 3000 words and I'm still a noob, wtf is he talking about, and it only took me around 5 months to learn those. I just used srs, reading, and immersion.

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>>20325082
i do this too but pronunciations only (the meaning comes from exposure) and i came up with it on my own as a way to get the 'recall effect' without anki

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>>20324741
1. Steve does not grind vocab
2. Steve only skims grammar on the toilet with the expectation he will just forget it, but this also fits into "krashner"s monitor model

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>>20325295
yeah but i bet steve spends a good couple of hours on the toilet nowadays so

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>>20325295
thats probably why its taking him years to learn an easy language like czech and why he thinks てもね means purpose

[Anonymous No.]

ねーねーおにいちゃん
ち○ぽ入れて〜！

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Day 24

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>>20325353
Make sure to drop it in 241 days.

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>>20325361
I'll set an alarm

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>>20325319
can you imagine steves bowel movements lmao

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>>20325370
Woops meant 341 days

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>>20325375
I understood what you were going for

[Anonymous No.]

No one who's serious about learning Japanese uses this thread

[Anonymous No.]

*exits thread*

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>>20325353
Hell yea bro, I see you. Here's one of the decks I've been doing too.

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Imagine being a slave

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>>20325393
were all white here

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>>20325381
I've already reached the apex of nihongo superiority, which means there's really not much left to be serious about. So I guess you're right.

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Reminder to set your Interval Modifier to 150%

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Reminder to delete Anki and start learning Japanese.

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reminder https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=87qdxfJIz4E

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>>20325405
I'm still dealing with the fallout from this advice. It'll make things super easy for a few weeks and then there's hell to pay. The point of srs to use it before you lose it. This advice literally fries yur brains wiring to the words.

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>>20325420
How the fuck are you still doing it for free?

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>>20325427
its fine if im eatin but i cant sleep at night if my doggs aint eatin too

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>>20325396
If you think about it the Japanese learning community has a pretty disproportional size of non-whites
khatz made AJATT, he's black
tae kim made the most recommended guide on DJT, he's korean
matt created the worst cult to ever plague the seven heavens, he's a mutt

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haha gotta love that japanese learning community it has that black guy and that korean lol diversity quota met

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>>20325461
i don't think a few cultist leaders is representative of most learners.

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>>20325390
This is the closest thing I have to a suitable camaraderie expressing reaction image saved on this hard drive

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>>20325461
>>20325468
nigger*
gook*

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>>20325485
your dead

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>>20325479
Alright so non-whites just happen to be slightly better at learning, that makes sense.

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>>20325489
the best speakers are all white or jewish

[Anonymous No.]

I really want to try subs2srs but its a 500 step setup process..

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>>20325499
Steve has a good method and theory but he isn't good at speaking Japanese at all.

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>>20325510
i wasn't specifically referencing steve. just people like this guy
https://youtu.be/QxIah03xAJw?t=2166
and the countless fluent speakers who don't make youtube videos.

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>>20325515
Well, you did say "jewish". Or were you trying to reference someone else?

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>>20325527
no. but matt too.

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>>20325515
>i just wanted to learn japanese and maybe meet a cute japanese girl
>end up in a kimono and accordion playing polka
>getting laughed at and told to basically dance, monkey, dance

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>>20325536
Matt isn't jewish.

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>>20325545
yes he is. he said so during his tkyosam interview.

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dang i didnt even have to post much and this threads fuckin already in the dumpster

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always count on jamal to know every detail about e-whores' lives

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>>20325548
Link? Also it's weird that you know this.

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>>20325557
wasnt me dude i couldnt care less i only like funny clips

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i didnt mean to turn it into a race war gas the kikes now i was just defending ankichans honor from @20325393

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>>20325562
post new ones instead of the same old tired material

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>>20325562
you got the temone one?

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>>20325566
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=67IQ1Jr-4RM

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>>20325424
That makes literally no sense. If you're gonna false flag at least make it realistic

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>>20325572
that wasn't very funny

[Anonymous No.]

this thread is like a kindergarten but without the teacher so you're all just walking around with your poopy diapers and pissing in each other mouths for fun without realising how retarded you look

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>>20325573
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sUeEsvOB4Oc

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>>20325571
yes actualy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7c5Xy3GZCac#t=535

>>20325577
it wasnt supposed to be it was mostly appropriate for you

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>>20325541
he is, in his own words, a comedian
they are laughing at his jokes, timing and etc
this includes his attire
please watch the video again

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>>20325585
can you imagine some1 watching a whole hour long video all in nihongo and understanding any of it itt lmao

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>>20325586
not really, no

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>>20325585
they aren't laughing at his jokes, they're laughing at the silly eccentric gaijin with the funny accent

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>>20325594
no thats just you who really is just twisting and contorting the entire thing into some stupid fanfic that fits your headcanon bc you dont know japanese LOL

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>>20325600
you just did the same for your last few posts kid
do you really think americans, brits, whatever the fuck the funny comedian is have better japanese than koreans? let's be real here c'mon

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>走るてもね
lol idk this thread is pretty funny tonight

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>>20325594
this is not true
assuming you have an extremely pessimistic view on things and don't know any Japanese, if you were to watch the video and focus on when they laugh, that should be enough to understand
his pronunciation is fine

[Anonymous No.]

>>20325627
it's okay, it's okay
whites don't have to be better at everything boyo
I will admit the funny comedian has a better accent than anyone here on DJT though

[Anonymous No.]

>>20325515
Imagine inviting a japanese person to america and dressing him like a cowboy and making him sing jpop songs while a bunch of people sit around laughing.

[Anonymous No.]

minna genki? lmao

[Anonymous No.]

genkunai

[Anonymous No.]

>>20325608
>do you really think americans, brits, whatever the fuck the funny comedian is have better japanese than koreans?
if comparing an individual to an entire demographic, I think you'll find that his Japanese is better than most Koreans by simple virtue that most Koreans do not speak Japanese
of course I think this, because it is the truth
>>20325639
did you reply to me by accident?
I do not understand what you are replying to

[Anonymous No.]

>>20325461
Khatz is literally worse than Matt
Both are cults

[Anonymous No.]

guys dont fall for it

[Anonymous No.]

>>20325688
I think if you are going to pick a cult then the khatz one is probably the better of the two. It's not as active and it has more motivational stuff. Matts more of an absolutionist with not near the wiggle room that khatz gave.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20325111
the only point of anki is to learn the readings, although after a few times seeing a card Ill remember the definition.

[Anonymous No.]

the only point of anki is to srs how retarded you are so you never forget it

[Anonymous No.]

The only point of Anki is to skip out on reading.
If you don't encounter the word in reading enough you didn't need to learn it yet.

[Anonymous No.]

holy shit subs2srs is fucking amazing, I had no idea.. full context, repetition, audio, visual, etc. etc.
man I feel like I was just handed the cheat sheet to getting fluent.

[Anonymous No.]

oh wow look at my shiny flashcards
*can't learn japanese*

[Anonymous No.]

a bunch of med students use anki to help them in their studies just google it
if anki doesnt work for you its cause youre literally a potato

[Anonymous No.]

My brain is bad.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20325887
Med school is memorizing assloads of factoids
Learning a language is helped by memorizing assloads of factoids, but isn't exclusively memorizing factoids.

[Anonymous No.]

being a doctor isnt exclusively memorizing factoids either so your post might as well be blank

seriously what is it with you retards and thinking anyone that does anki only does anki

[Anonymous No.]

Having a conversation, you have to know every word instantly. Doctors aren't like House, in reality they google for what you have a lot. So actually they can get away with anki.

[Anonymous No.]

damn i guess reading isnt a thing huh nope lets just disregard one quarter of what it means to know a language because it suits my quote argument unquote

[Anonymous No.]

>このサンゴ礁を調べると３０%のサンゴが白くなっていることが初めてわかりました。
What is the と doing here? I thought to express "and" you put it into て form.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20325958
https://core6000.neocities.org/dojg/entries/170.html

[Anonymous No.]

>>20325972
Thats a fucked up use of the conditional と but ok

[Anonymous No.]

>>20325987
It's very normal, you just gotta stop equating it with "if".

[Anonymous No.]

>>20325791
Be careful. Subs2srs makes you want to study/memorize all parts of a show which you should not do. If it's an anime, just find up to 20 sentences each episode that you can figure out looking up 1 word. Delete the rest and do the next episode.

[Anonymous No.]

この妹の胸を調べると１００％の胸が超可愛くなっていることがまたわかりました

[Anonymous No.]

LITERALLY just read sakubi and then start reading manga

[Anonymous No.]

>>20325582
Wow, facts to possibly back up an argument that you forgot to post

[Anonymous No.]

>>20325958
I like to imagine that they meant it in a similar way as このサンゴ礁の調べによると but that's just me

[Anonymous No.]

走るとやせる事がわかりました。

[Anonymous No.]

>>20325958
>>20326080
>>20326168
i just don't get it bros why does the こと have to be there?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20326175
こと noun-izes the verb xなってる so you can talk about it with other shit later in the sentence

おっぱいが超可愛くなる= tits become extremely cute
おっぱいが超可愛くなってることはすごくいいですね = tits becoming extremely cute is freakin' great, ain't it?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20325958
>I predict 30% of this coral reef will be found to be white coral if it were to be examined.
This is my best attempt.

[Anonymous No.]

I want to learn more Japanese by playing video games.

Does anyone know games on Steam that feature Japanese text + are hookable?

I know the Neptunia games are hookable.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20324486
But it does/ it did. Japanese was just incomprehensible but each time after reading tips for parsing/analyzing sentences my comprehension completely improved, like, not even a “level up” more like a “class up”.
Went from gibberish to comprehensible but quirky, from weird and quirky to normal and familiar, and the most recent change has been speed, before sentences were read deliberately and took 30 seconds even if I was familiar with the topic, now I breeze through sentences at native level and comfortably navigate unfamiliar vocabulary.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20326241
>after reading tips for parsing/analyzing sentences my comprehension completely improved
how do i achieve this

[Anonymous No.]

>>20326241
What tips?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20326248
>>20326263
It's simple, just delete 4chan

[Anonymous No.]

>>20326271
But we're not even on 4chan

[Anonymous No.]

>>20326273
Thanks for that, moot

[Anonymous No.]

>>20325082
Do it once and you’ll see immediately how well it works (extremely well)

[Anonymous No.]

>>20325082
>>20326294
このいわゆる「「「アドバイス」」」を聞かない方がいいよ。ただミームですとオモいます。本・ニュース記事・エロゲなどなどを読んだらだんだんと良くなります。

[Anonymous No.]

>>20326207
That's a bad attempt, the とis clearly not quoting/phrasing

[Anonymous No.]

>>20326358
これ

[Anonymous No.]

man so the so-called "conditional" grammar points can also refer to "when" something is done? i wish japanese mapped perfectly onto english.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20326374
There is an "if" in my sentence.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20326396
Some of them yes but not others I don't think.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20326397
Theres a quotation in your translation

[Anonymous No.]

>>20326402
Where?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20326405
I predict

[Anonymous No.]

>>20326358
alright so there's two words here i don't know which are いわゆる and ニュース記事 but even though i tried to recall them from short term memory after looking them up, i know i'm going to forget them in like 5 minutes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20326409
That's the part I was least sure about, and it's for the 初めてわかりました part.
I'm thinking of it as kind of a "my initial impression is" or something, which is similar to a prediction I guess.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20326397
>>20326396
The と conditional is definitely more "when" something happens.

Pic related is a gleaming golden example.

>尻尾を上げている間に攻撃すると・・・
>レーザーで反撃してくるぞ！

>While it's tail's raised, IF and WHEN you attack...
>It's gonna counter with its laser!

it will happen, with certainty, IF you do whatever satisfies the condition.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20326422
Try again my kawaii kouhai kun.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20326409
>>20326422
Or maybe a better translation is then
>At first I thought it would be 30% white coral if this coral reef were examined

[Anonymous No.]

what is your てもね ?

[Anonymous No.]

我が妹

[Anonymous No.]

>>20326413
It's ok anon, I constantly try to "Top Gear" with いわゆる despite Japanese not working this way. If you're familiar with the show you'll know how they do shit like this all the time

>Top so-called Gear
>トップいわゆるギアー

Which is just a fancy way of saying という anyway

>米いわゆる国
>DいわゆるJT

I don't think this level of 皮肉 works in Japanese but I really want it to.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20326422
初めて for the first time (e.g. はじめまして)
わかりました understood

I dunno where you pulled impression from

[Anonymous No.]

Anyone have an EPWING download for a good kanwa jiten?

[Anonymous No.]

いわゆる「いわゆる」はどう使うの？

[Anonymous No.]

>>20326505
「いわゆる」というって言葉の使い方は「って」・「という」・「""」などが同じ。そうじゃないなら近いと思うけど。

[Anonymous No.]

>>20326461
So how would you translate it then?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20326541
When this coral reef was examined, it was understood for the first time that 30% of the coral was white.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20325987
Think of how “and” can be used as a conditional too though:
Read my post and you won’t have problems with と anymore!! Lol

[Anonymous No.]

>>20326248
>>20326263
They were from some grammar book with a really generic name so I can’t recall. Kawajapa is good too though, that video on passive tense changed my life, he’s got a video on analyzing sentences too but because I can already I didn’t watch it, might be what you’re looking for though

[Anonymous No.]

How am I supposed to know what words to mine starting out? Everything is new to me so I would basically just be making a deck of almost every word in the game.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20326651
what game

[Anonymous No.]

>>20326839
There's no real point in deleting cards you already know because review time will be extremely short and its interval will grow very fast

[Anonymous No.]

>>20326839
The interval will become so long so quickly that it probably actually takes more time to delete a card than just keep it in.
>oh no I'll have to take 2 seconds make sure that I remember 風呂 in three and a half years

[Anonymous No.]

>Trying to force your brain to """acquire""" words before it's ready to acquire them
Ankidrones, everyone.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20327138
Anki helps prime the pump for when you see the words in immersion. You're not going to internalize it with Anki, but knowing a word makes it easier for your brain to do what it does.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20327138
Anki is for streamrolling the word into your head so that internalization becomes easier.

[Anonymous No.]

What's the difference between
暮らしてる(kurashi teru) and 暮らしている(kurashite iru)?
I think they both mean exactly the same thing, the progressive tense of "to live", but I am unsure because the first is missing the い, am I right or wrong?
No matter where I translate it, I also get the same meaning for both.

Is it something completely irrelevant or I am missing something here?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20327256
"i^2=-1" is an imaginary number because there's no number that can return -1 when multiplied by themselves.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20327318
Not a "real" one tho.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20327298
ah, naruhodo

[Anonymous No.]

>>20327335
Just give him the d already Descartes

[Anonymous No.]

>>20327445
I don't think you can just use percentages like that.
There are infinite of both real and complex numbers.
inf/inf is undefined

[Anonymous No.]

>>20327459
*teleports behind you* how foolish. there isn't just one infinity, anon. take THIS! ALEPH NAUGHT SLASH!

[Anonymous No.]

>>20327471
B- BAKA NA

[Anonymous No.]

Are there any good physical books you can order to learn Japanese? I find I learn better using textbooks rather than digital methods

[Anonymous No.]

>>20327516
only big brain matt can math, so no

[Anonymous No.]

>>20327565
imagine spending countless hours making a video about complex and autistic anki optimisations only to delete it a few hours after releasing it because all of your math was wrong

[Anonymous No.]

>>20327601
It's trustworthy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20327705
I'd rather read in that time.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20327733
>I'm not about to pull my kindle out when I'm waiting in line at the grocery store
I wouldn't do reviews there either though

[Anonymous No.]

wait who the fuck stands in line at the grocery store

[Anonymous No.]

>>20327767
Bro all you gotta do is carry around a copy of 雪国　or some other dank 小説 and whip that shit out whenever you're at the bus stop or at the DMV or some boring shit

Reading is like the "good" version of Anki, if you wanna review words you just flip over to the page with the one you don't know and read it again.

[Anonymous No.]

Anons, why is 3 correct and not 1?
I don't understand.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20327917
Your hot pockets are ready.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20327930
lets hambunko https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N-i9GXbptog

[Anonymous No.]

>>20327910
>>20327917
Usually it would be like below right?
「数学では、彼にかなわな」
Am I missing something?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20327958
These people are just pretending to clap right? No one actually finds him funny right?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20327975
you gotta understand people go to those things because they want to laugh and have a good time

so theyll laugh even if its not that good

gaffigans aight tho

[Anonymous No.]

>>20327975
i was in munich for something similar because of school
shit was boring as fuck, but everyone seemed to legit enjoy it
at least the beer was cheap

[Anonymous No.]

>>20328052
>beer
キモイ

[Anonymous No.]

you can also

[Anonymous No.]

>>20328206
eng subbed of course

[Anonymous No.]

>>20328174
you can also refresh /djt/ for 30 minutes while occasionally shitposting

[Anonymous No.]

>>20327960
Definition and its example fit the question perfectly, what the fuck are you confused over?

[Anonymous No.]

>というって
it fucks my fucking WORLD up when i see ってs, とｓ, and というs chained together

[Anonymous No.]

>>20328499
Stop reading those posts or your Japanese will be irreversibly damaged.

N2s trying to flaunt their perceived understanding of the language do more damage to these threads than the English-only posters, lowercase posters, and Jamal combined.

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>20327893
ni kanawanai means like you can't match that person, you can't compete against them. so it means he is really good at math. saying he can't do math like in #1 means the opposite and i dont even know if its grammatical. number three makes more sense once you get that

[Anonymous No.]

>>20326839
once you can read books and not hate yourself while looking up unknown words on the spot just delete the entire anki deck.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20328677
How long until I stop hating myself?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20328771
whenever you decide to love yourself instead

[Anonymous No.]

Could've swore the test date was on the 3rd.
Print out the voucher today and it says the 2nd.
I WOULD'VE MISSED IT

[Anonymous No.]

>>20328797
there is a djt test?

[Anonymous No.]

Are the Japanese graded readers books worth reading?

[Anonymous No.]

yea read em

dont worry about what the haters say cuz youll also read other things someday

[Anonymous No.]

>>20328832
yes. they are very good for learning grammatical patterns in my experience. lots of repetition with no translations which is what you want for grammar acquisition

[Anonymous No.]

>>20328627
Wrong. See >>20327960.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20328677
this

[Anonymous No.]

Day 25

[Anonymous No.]

うんこたべたい

[Anonymous No.]

>>20329249
But I can feel my progress? My reading is getting faster and my comprehension is getting better.
still suck ass at listening and speaking, but one step at a time

[Anonymous No.]

>>20329252
post retention %

[Anonymous No.]

>>20329249
or instead of keeping a potted plant its like getting hiv and it eventually turning into full blown aids

[Anonymous No.]

>>20329249
studying japanese is like watching 10000 hours of english subbed anime
It just works

[Anonymous No.]

>>20329258
It's cool when you can get that instant gratification, but it'll give you the illusion you're getting good when you're still a tiny little sprout. Don't expect too much progress. You need at least 93% comprehension and that's over 10k words and a lot of grammar.

[Anonymous No.]

it just works

[Anonymous No.]

>>20329263
2 kanji nouns are hard. I think I should get to writing down 資産 and 遺産 a few times before they become leeches since I keep confusing them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20329275
Fair play.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20329302
pretty gud, I take it that's a mining deck?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20329302
why would you drone something like that early on

[Anonymous No.]

>>20329152
what i said makes sense given the minimal context assuming "i" am the subject of the sentence and we're talking about math only "数学は" as for math, i can't match him "彼" and his math abilities 彼にかなわない 数学は　彼にかなわない

[Anonymous No.]

>>20329408
Then it would be 数学で(は).

[Anonymous No.]

>>20329408
>>20329152

wait nvm i see what you mean

[Anonymous No.]

>>20329431
>３０００億　３兆
Was there a typo or is there something I'm misunderstanding?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20329431
I wish I inherited something from my grandparents.

[Anonymous No.]

>Have to pass N2 in 3 days and still has only 1/3 points on the grammar section.

B-but anons told me Japanese grammar was easy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20329485
It took me a month to anki all dojg grammar and it wasn't a very heavy load.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20329501
there's a difference between reading sentences in anki and performing well on a test

[Anonymous No.]

>>20329485
日本語の森が俺のおすすめ。
・・・しかも、今の所で行方は不合格だろう。
頑張って匿名さん。

[Anonymous No.]

>>20329501
>It took me a month to anki all dojg grammar
how in the fuck? my retention is so bad and i only do like 5 cards per day.

[Anonymous No.]

feels like the reading section could be hell
i keep missing stuff and getting tricked in practice

[Anonymous No.]

toilet meshi

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>20329600
phenotype

[Anonymous No.]

>>20329600
i think bad retention rates usually mean you need more context or interaction with the card somehow, I've been putting in the extra work with my leeches and it helps

[Anonymous No.]

>>20329658
same this is me so much

[Anonymous No.]

>>20329555
Is there really no way to get a refund?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20329664
yea man genes fucking suck ass

[Anonymous No.]

ill buy you guys some crispr for Christmas so we can all make it

[Anonymous No.]

I can't make yomichan work with anki correctly.
It adds the card to the deck but audio file doesn't get uploaded even though I can hear it through yomichan itself
I'm using anki 2.1 with linux. any ideas?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20329722
Upgrade to 2.0

[Anonymous No.]

>>20329722
update ankiconnect

[Anonymous No.]

>>20329701
thinking about crispr literally gets me teary eyed. despite all the fearmongering it is a blessing for future people who would have otherwise ended up like me.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20329739
It works with 2.0

>>20329759
Didn't work. I guess I'll use 2.0 to add cards until it's fixed. 2.0 is really ugly to work with though

[Anonymous No.]

>>20329790
whats better about 2.1

[Anonymous No.]

>>20329794
It supports mpv

[Anonymous No.]

>>20329790
update ankiconnect to the latest version on git
https://github.com/FooSoft/anki-connect/issues/96

[Anonymous No.]

>>20329800
oh. I'll give it another shot next time.
Thanks

[Anonymous No.]

How the fuck do japanese people read websites with small fonts like pic related? I feel like I'm going blind just by opening the page

[Anonymous No.]

I registered for N1 but I probably just won't show up because I was too lazy to study.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20329924
lol ?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20329722
I can't any of that shit to work right either, luckily subs2srs worked great though. Follow the steps and if you have an anime library you got a gold mine of cards with top tier context.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20329600
because you don't understand the material. anki isn't for learning new things. it's for not forgetting stuff you already know. if you're "grinding" through random stuff in anki then you should expect a low retention rate

[Anonymous No.]

>>20329927
Nice blog

[Anonymous No.]

and a high retardation rate independent of everything else

[Anonymous No.]

Wow the Japanese language is so expressive I can't believe there's a specific sound effect for the sound of a vulva opening, what's the sound effect for spreading an anus?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20329924
kanji can only be combined to form certain words and words can only go together in certain ways
being fluent makes it pretty easy to guess what word might be there especially after identifying some surrounding words or grammar
then you just check if the rough shape of the kanji clashes with that guess

[Anonymous No.]

>>20329983
whatever the sound of you pressing the post button is

[Anonymous No.]

>>20329983
im going to have to ask you to post a vocaroo of you spreading your anus im really curious to hear what sort of sound it makes https://vocaroo.com/

[Anonymous No.]

>>20329976
i liked it

[Anonymous No.]

>>20329983
you seem to be questioning the value of this sound

[Anonymous No.]

>>20323438
I don't get it. I literally just started learning japanese this week.
So you basically ordered three portions of simmered egg and chicken on rice, plus two large colas? How fat are you?

[Anonymous No.]

imagine studying years for N2

[Anonymous No.]

>>20329976
Thanks.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20330024
now write that in n2 level japanese

[Anonymous No.]

>>20330036
you probably couldn't write a sentence like that with N2 grammar

[Anonymous No.]

>>20330041
lol ? nice copout mate

[Anonymous No.]

>>20330048
he literally wrote "in n2 level japanese"

[Anonymous No.]

n2 is supposed to be basically fluent ?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20330053
i really, really hope this is ベイト

[Anonymous No.]

>>20330053
basically as in kindergarten level retard fluent i guess. they don't expect you to be able to read a real book or listen to a real news program but you should be able to understand anime and manga aka kids materials

[Anonymous No.]

>>20330065
>retard fluent
that's what djt aspires to be

[Anonymous No.]

To anyone who did the JLPT before - Can I listen to the listening section questions more than once? Is it a disc that just keeps going? If it's just a one time go I'm a bit worried.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20330082
One time.

You wish otherwise, fag.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20330082
I did a fake one and I could repeat as much as I wanted on that

[Anonymous No.]

its once
i guess you can hope some faggots phone rings and you might get to hear it again

[Anonymous No.]

How do I know if I’ll pass? Every mock exam isn’t weighted like the real thing.

[Anonymous No.]

why would you even take that test if you dont know japanese ?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20330102
What is your jcat score

[Anonymous No.]

Oh well, it's N4 so it should be okay, anyway. Just that I read so much more than I listen it might be an issue. I have no problem understanding people when I speak to them but when it's a recording with no larger context it can be challenging.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20330112
honestly just don't take jlpt under n2. You don't need to pay to know that you don't know japanese yet. just watch raw anime nippa

[Anonymous No.]

>>20330112
i never took the jlpt but even just listening to the n2 practice listening on the official website it was some super slow easy to understand script being read. you'll probably be fine if you know any japanese at all

[Anonymous No.]

>>20330124
I'm in uni and we were encouraged to by our teachers. It made me up the gear on my studies regardless so I don't regret it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20330131
Professors probably get a cut of the fees for each student they recruit for the exam. Every level below N1 is just a money-making scam.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20330149
Our professors get peanuts so I don't blame them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20330131
That’s a good reason. But don’t get complacent just by passing N4. Register for N3 next and push yourself.

[Anonymous No.]

you know whats not a money making scam

[Anonymous No.]

well if he's talking about it now he has already paid, so who cares

[Anonymous No.]

>>20330167
Pretty sure I'll jump to N2 after N4 but yeah, I'm not planning on stopping or slowing down.

[Anonymous No.]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wk04g9NrkF8
is the real test really this easy

[Anonymous No.]

>>20330108
Never heard of it. What’s the point of a that test over JLPT?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20330185
Free and online.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20330187
Can I put that on my resume?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20330206
no but how far will n4 really get you for your JET application

[Anonymous No.]

>>20330183
lost my shit at 39 seconds and still havent recovered

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wk04g9NrkF8#t=39

[Anonymous No.]

>>20330183
>ryuugakusei
>sounds native
n a n i

[Anonymous No.]

>>20330183
yeah if you're going to spend money on JLPT you might as well just take N1. i regret listening to this instead of anime

[Anonymous No.]

you dont listen to anime you watch it

this is really important

[Anonymous No.]

what if her voice is anime
https://youtu.be/M2D0KIcphiQ?t=795

[Anonymous No.]

>>20330328
true but i rip the audio and listen to it after i watch it too.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20330358
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gHAqd4ARA7s

[Anonymous No.]

>>20330358
Why not just listen to podcasts

[Anonymous No.]

>>20330366
because im too lazy to go and look for a podcast that i would be interested in listening to

[Anonymous No.]

>>20330366
because its not anime
anime is the sole reason i exist

[Anonymous No.]

>>20330376
さくら通信

[Anonymous No.]

put "be smart dont be a retart" in the op from now on thx

[Anonymous No.]

>>20330385
>lowercase
>retart
That's quite a tall order.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20330406
sorry to trigger your autism on multiple levels at once wasnt my intent really

[Anonymous No.]

Remember
Anime is NOT listening

[Anonymous No.]

its not listening just full on nihongo learning which is why you need 10000 hours of it with eng subs

[Anonymous No.]

>>20330381
this is as dry as the jlpt n1 listening

[Anonymous No.]

>>20330492
>he doesn't understand wordplay and connotations

[Anonymous No.]

Really envious of all you girls who like anime so much it’s a legit resource. So far there’s only like a handful of lights novels I am interested in and I think I fucked up even that up because after starting one of them i checked to see if there was a manga for it too (and there was and it was better and also translated) and now I am not as excited about light novels anymore.
Well now that that can of worms is open I guess I can only read light novels that I’m interested in AND don’t have a manga adaption either fuck

[Anonymous No.]

i hate anime i only like the light novels that are 1:1 adapted into anime because they are intentionally formatted to be anime

[Anonymous No.]

I read 100 pages of a book today! New record for me.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20330543
Which LNs do you like

[Anonymous No.]

>>20330543
The manga adaption of LNs is usually far inferior. Read it after the LN to see stuff visualized if you want but don't let it be your first entry.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20330541
yeah i mean thanks for the suggestion but anime is more fun sorry

[Anonymous No.]

>>20330557
>>20330584
Smut LNs

[Anonymous No.]

>>20330602
Are any of them actually well written

[Anonymous No.]

I learn all my pitch accent from this guy. He's so much better than Dogen it's unreal.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W6-xL5obmfQ&fbclid=

[Anonymous No.]

>>20330553
I also set a new personal best today, I managed to get through more than 10000 (!) characters from an "easy" VN in a single day
I'm getting there! (one day)
Just wait for me 兄貴達

[Anonymous No.]

i paused my neil degrasse tyson vid to watch that and now i have aids arigato very much

[Anonymous No.]

>>20330667
>aids aids aids aids
are you trying to tell us something jamal?

[Anonymous No.]

its kinda been no secret that i have aids

[Anonymous No.]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_AZDaW3GLQw

[Anonymous No.]

>>20330686
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=reKSjhYpTUo#t=24

[Anonymous No.]

>>20330637
No, which is why the Manga winds up being better— more art and less writing

[Anonymous No.]

btw また、同じ夢を見ていた is in the djt library and is really easy to read. its narrated first person by a 小学生 check it out its actually a nice story

[Anonymous No.]

>>20330454
Feel anime
Taste manga
It's the only true path to fluency

[Anonymous No.]

if you havent had at least 10 of your manga published you dont know japanese

[Anonymous No.]

if you dont understand this you dont know japanese

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RIXMf7UxcJk#t=525

[Anonymous No.]

>>20330208
Honestly, that’s the reason why I took the JLPT N3 test. Writing down “I’m learning Japanese” on my application without any proof or evidence didn’t help my case.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20330808
wait it sounds like english
i finally know japanese, it literally changed into english

[Anonymous No.]

what's the most based way to learn kanji

[Anonymous No.]

>>20330808
>konnichilingus
that's not funny

[Anonymous No.]

getting tattoos of all the jouyou with their readings

bonus points for getting obese first so you have more area to fit them on

[Anonymous No.]

>>20330898
oh your kind of humor is just a little after that

[Anonymous No.]

>>20330893
Sudoku

[Anonymous No.]

>>20330366
Why are people this stupid. Podcasts are not listening.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20330808
woah I guess I am making progress

[Anonymous No.]

who comes to this thread and asks why people are stupid thats like hanging out at the wheelchair ramp and asking every tard that rolls up why they dont just take the stairs

[Anonymous No.]

Protip: if it's not comprehensible you're getting meme'd kid

[Anonymous No.]

>>20330543
Read light novels after watching the anime. You remember the scenes that are now being described by words. Goblin Slayer has been a trip to do with this though they have some scenes out of order.

[Anonymous No.]

who would read the gobbo slayer books when the anime has epic titty and other choice cuts

[Anonymous No.]

like all the times cleric chan PISSes herself

[Anonymous No.]

There are discords better than these threads, holy shit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20330964
fuck off matt

[Anonymous No.]

>>20330964
funnel your scrub ass into the nearest discord then and say sayonara to djt im sure itll be great

[Anonymous No.]

Is there a better dohg deck the one in op is kind of shit desu ?

[Anonymous No.]

ill let you have my deck just close your eyes and open your mouth and if i feel teeth you cant learn japanese

[Anonymous No.]

nvm found it in the shared decks, looks much better

[Anonymous No.]

>>20330992
yeah in case anyone doesnt know there are tons of mistakes in that dojg deck and youre probably committing shitty information to memory without realizing it. i think you should just make your own, it would only take a couple days to input all the sentences into the srs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20330944
if listening is harder than reading what about doing this in the other direction

[Anonymous No.]

>>20330893
Here's what you should do. 3 months of RTK using anki, with keyword on the front of the card. You'll spend a minimum of 2 hours every day learning new kanji and reviewing old kanji. You realize that recalling a kanji based on a keyword gives you a strong visual image of that kanji and it helps you distinguish kanji, but it doesn't train you as much to recall the meaning of a kanji when you see it in text. You finish RTK, and you start reading. Your retention rate in anki starts to drop as you begin reading. You tell yourself that it'll be OK because you've started reading and after a few months you'll know enough words to associate with all the kanji you're forgetting. You're spending 30-60 minutes a day on RTK reviews alone, not to mention vocab or sentence mining if you want to do either of those. You realize that RTK helped but it isn't worth the effort you're exerting to keep up with reviews because despite your mnemonics, you don't know Japanese and have nothing with which to recall a kanji if you forget the story you've associated with the keyword on the front. If you knew the word associated with that kanji perhaps you could vaguely remember a component and then recall your story, but you didn't learn Japanese so you can't do that.

You accept that you did was mostly a waste of time. You apologize to DJT for trusting the balding piss jugg cultist and decide to read more.

[Anonymous No.]

What do when looking up words with a gazilion different meanings and you can't figure out which one applies, just move on?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20331034
didnt read your post but my initial scan of it did not find the number 10000 so theres no doubt your post can be thrown in the bone pile with all the others who dared to tell someone how to learn japanese

[Anonymous No.]

whats the difference putting なさい after verb stem vs te.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20331036
yes

[Anonymous No.]

Yea I'm about 8 cards into the Diction of Japanese Grammar deck
https://ankiweb.net/shared/info/735547011
Way better and more to the point than the tae kim one or the dojg in op's. They hide everything on the front, back has furigana (basic kanji anyways though) and it has the meaning ofc. Just what I needed.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20331046
its like saying please and if you want to be more demanding than te you use ro

[Anonymous No.]

>>20331046
its like saying you know this is the right thing to do so do it you little ass eater

[Anonymous No.]

>>20331046
て is short fort てください which is a request
なさい is more like a command

>>20331034
thanks for writing that novel i agree rtk is retarded and i dont have the autism to do shit like imperial edict - 勅 like heisig and matt do. it would be cool if there was something like those DS kanken games for the PC where you would either choose from a list of similar kanji or write them in with a tablet or something but idk of anything like that

[Anonymous No.]

Isn't it kind of insane to flashcard grammar, past rote stuff like て form?

[Anonymous No.]

don't use anki for grammar

[Anonymous No.]

don't use anki for languages

[Anonymous No.]

if you clicked this thread youre already not right in the head

if you read this post congratulations you are one of my dollies

[Anonymous No.]

Use anki for everything, you can even watch anime on it. Get diamond fluency rank bb!

[Anonymous No.]

only 500 posts and its already time to pack it up boys

last for best girl

[Anonymous No.]

should i quit this dojg deck now and read more? suspended ones are mostly the simplest stuff i find really easy to remember but there's a few leeches.

[Anonymous No.]

このスレはあまりよくなかった

[Anonymous No.]

>>20331111
Use a different dojg デッキ

[Anonymous No.]

>>20331111
yes read any simple book written for working adults (not ln or vn) and it will do you much better than a grammar guide course or dictionary. any normal book will cover every single grammar point you need to know for every day stuff so just read a novel instead of anki.

[Anonymous No.]

お前の顔はよくない

[Anonymous No.]

僕の顔面はメチャクチャ立派だ

[Anonymous No.]

>>20331128
which one?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20331144
I'm doing this.
>>20331054
I own the books too, but they're kind of boring and doing this deck so far has been nice. It's super so far but it never hurts to brush up imo.

[Anonymous No.]

what year did rikaichan first release?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20331147
super ez*

[Anonymous No.]

>>20331148
http://www.rikai.com/programming/2005/11/rikaichan.html
http://rikaixul.mozdev.org/
http://www.rikai.com/perl/About.pl?Language=Ja

[Anonymous No.]

>>20331147
DJT's DoJG deck serves the same function though. Highlighted word+sentence on front, meaning+more example sentences on back.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20331177
yea I used it for about 80 cards, I did like all of the info on it but it was just kind of too cluttered and thrown together for my taste

[Anonymous No.]

>>20331021
You can read along with the audio if there's an audio book, then play that audio book chapter on loop for listening. Won't work with Goblin Slayer but other LNs have audio.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20331184
Hundreds of errors were fixed in the DoJG deck in the OP compared to the older version on AnkiWeb, including an entry that gave an entirely wrong definition (mixed up with with a different grammar point). You can just delete all the stuff you don't want in the template.

[Anonymous No.]

Daily reminder to set your interval modifier to 50% or you'll forget everything and have to start over.

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>20331046
I meant like whats the difference between 聞いてなさい vs　聞きなさい　I see both and just treat them the same.

[Anonymous No.]

dont treat them the same

the first one is you wanna say 聞いて but you also wanna https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eOfAKhrkREo

[Anonymous No.]

>>20331133
わたしも。
ヽ(≧Д≦)ノ ｳﾜｧｧﾝ!!

[Anonymous No.]

とても表現型

[Anonymous No.]

>>20331316
One of my greatest fears is that I'm forgetting all of my long-interval mature cards without even noticing

[Anonymous No.]

>>20331441
I took a 6 year break from japanese after breaking up with a girl, then when I came back I surprisignly remembered like 90% of my long term memorized things. The 10% I totally forgot was easy to relearn anyways. Brains are pretty powerful.

[Anonymous No.]

how do you take a break from japanese

do you suddenly just start watching western tv and listening to lady gaga? lol

[Anonymous No.]

>>20331453
meanwhile I'm trying to break up with my girlfriend so I have more time for Japanese

[Anonymous No.]

Daily reminder to set your interval modifier to 0 to ensure you review every word every day and never forget anything.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20331489
if you live with her just tell her to get the fuck out like i did

[Anonymous No.]

>>20331078
Extremely, the more variation/complexity/nuance there is in whatever item you’re studying, the better large input is and the worse SRS is.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20331496
75%, that's the magic spot, stop confusing the lads

[Anonymous No.]

i ran the numbers in paint and it's closer to 84% but you tried

[Anonymous No.]

Is the 'I have an apple and pen' guy just hard gay older?

[Anonymous No.]

i just ran the numbers

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ocQJH7EiwY

[Anonymous No.]

Reminder that manga, VNs, LNs and novels are not reading.

[Anonymous No.]

you cant remind me of something that isnt true

[Anonymous No.]

>>20331558
virgin
>>20331568
chad

[Anonymous No.]

listening to audiobooks blindfolded at 2x speed reversed is really the only way to be sure that youre really understanding the words and context otherwise there are just too many clues for you to guess what's going on

[Anonymous No.]

hoyl SHITt

[Anonymous No.]

>>20331582
what're those?

[Anonymous No.]

oh these? theyre my ninja info titties

[Anonymous No.]

>>20331592
hot

[Anonymous No.]

using blindfolds is cheating since your hearing becomes better if you are blind
b

[Anonymous No.]

Using your eyes isn't reading because context clues make it too easy to understand what's going on
You have to read in braille to really know you can read

[Anonymous No.]

but its still there

[Anonymous No.]

Is 微笑み a smile, generally with a closed mouth while 笑顔 is a mouth-open smile? This seems to be the case according to google image search results.

[Anonymous No.]

oh my GOd jsut watch more ANIme

[Anonymous No.]

which anime teaches me kanji?

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

already found an error in that deck

[Anonymous No.]

そうだけどなる

[Anonymous No.]

おならがでる

[Anonymous No.]

>>20331712
nvm guess its a name too

[Anonymous No.]

already found an error in anons brain

[Anonymous No.]

>>20331625
the kanji makes it really obvious

[Anonymous No.]

>>20331734
I mean I was right, the example even ended up saying tomoko.. it's just it wasn't as full retard as I thought but i don't know every single on yomi

[Anonymous No.]

日本語の文法が複雑です！

[Anonymous No.]

>>20331773

[Anonymous No.]

>>20331625
would it kill people who make definitions for jmdict to actually include easy-to-explain nuances in definitions? why keep everything so vague?

short but more accurate is possible.

[Anonymous No.]

いや国語文法は超簡単なんだ

[Anonymous No.]

>>20331740
>>20331796
hohoemi is a smaller more calm smile than an egao which is really happy

[Anonymous No.]

for real though do we look like google

chiebukuro answers arent even hard to read its good practice you goon

[Anonymous No.]

あなたは死ねば、感じるよくなる
is the grammar right on this?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20331842
no that's not right

[Anonymous No.]

>>20331824
if you're not trolling then thanks but the jmdict thing really pisses me off. it seems like such wasted potential. and inb4 someone argues you learn nuance from input. that is obviously true but you could argue the same for any definition provided for any word in any dictionary. there is a balance between the nuanced conveyed and the energy wasted learning/understanding it. reading "more reserved smile" instead of "smile" can only help.

[Anonymous No.]

btw if you just watched anime youd actually know the difference between the two just on the real

like youd really know it and not "i just looked it up on the internet like just now" know it

[Anonymous No.]

>>20331843
あなたが私の陰茎を吸えば、それは正しくなる
more like this?

[Anonymous No.]

your 主語 will never please a woman and your 述語 is just plain retarded

[Anonymous No.]

>>20331082
now this is solid advice coming from djt

[Anonymous No.]

you stand to gain more from physical flashcards anyway

[Anonymous No.]

>>20331850
yeah jmdict is a translation not a definition, that's why you don't get nuance. you learn that through context and 国語 dictionaries can explain things too. i just read the definitions for 微笑 and 笑顔 and put it into english for you

>>20331873
that's more like it

[Anonymous No.]

Physical flah cards are a waste of time. The best is anki but with audio and picture context from your favorite anime.

[Anonymous No.]

flashcards are not context

[Anonymous No.]

i write my leech cards on a whiteboard which i look at every morning for about a week or two before erasing.

[Anonymous No.]

the primary advantage of a physical flashcard deck is you can just chomp into it and enjoy some nihongo indigestion

tard pocket *credits roll*

[Anonymous No.]

>>20331925
Technically everything is context but the more things you can connect it to inside your head the better. Mixing things up is good for that too I guess.

[Anonymous No.]

time to take the anki black pill

words arent reading

nor are sentences

paragraphs are

you gotta mine paragraphs

[Anonymous No.]

>>20331939
Mine entire books

[Anonymous No.]

>>20331939
wow i remember when i used to say this too lol

[Anonymous No.]

>>20331943
Not manga or VNs though those aren't reading

[Anonymous No.]

consider this why are you so bad at flashcards that you cant just put the entire book on it and have it all memorized in a flash

[Anonymous No.]

wow, native vetted.

[Anonymous No.]

>mine entire books

[Anonymous No.]

>>20331960
get that native in here to vet this post

[Anonymous No.]

>>20331939
Sentences and words take less time to review than a paragraph, something like half an hour.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20331969
>3 years ago
god jamal you really have to reach to shit on ****

[Anonymous No.]

>>20331939
Real talk I've been mining paragraphs here and there and its pretty solid. Thats all the book people are doing. They're rereading a lot in the beggining. It's just a spectrum and they all work imo. Depends on whatever placebo keeps you learning.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20331980
i dont do the reaching you guys bring it to me

[Anonymous No.]

in three years he went from broken japanese to being good enough to fake reading muramasa

krashen hates him

only five easy payments of nine ninety nine

[Anonymous No.]

>>20331969
imagine studying a language to post that

[Anonymous No.]

>>20332002
imagine this he literally ate lunch daily in a japanese high school toilet and did flashcards in said toilet only to have his epic nihongo dreams culminate into posts like that lmao

[Anonymous No.]

>>20332006
dude makes me afraid to keep learning
i think im above eating in toilets but you never know maybe he thought he was too
maybe thats just what japanese does to a person

[Anonymous No.]

>>20332015
come deeper into the mabbit hole my boy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5xG-WwqhHBc

[Anonymous No.]

>>20332025
ive watched them all a year ago my dude what do you think im doing instead of learning japanese
i forgot he sounded like that though

[Anonymous No.]

>>20332025
does watching upsidedown really work?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20332048
nothing in that vid works

safe and fun drinking game take a shot every time he say onky LOL

[Anonymous No.]

i've watched about 300 of steve kaufmann's videos where he says the same thing over and over and i think i'm finally starting to understand what he's talking about. thanks steve.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20332060
now just do that in the language you want to learn

[Anonymous No.]

>>20332048
yeah your brain is a little confused by the apparent gravity in the scene and has to think about it a little harder about what the fuck is going on which makes the scene more vivid in your mind including the spoken japanese

[Anonymous No.]

>>20332060
if only there was a steve krashen to repeat the same thing in japanese 300 times

[Anonymous No.]

by krashen i meant kaufmann that was a strange mistake their names are so wildly different

[Anonymous No.]

>>20332060
take the lingq pill

[Anonymous No.]

recommend me good japanese forums and/or boards.

[Anonymous No.]

get your gomers right

>>20332131
<--

[Anonymous No.]

こんきあにめ

おにいちゃん

なにみてる？

[Anonymous No.]

>>20332171
something something
brother
what do you see?

[Anonymous No.]

imagine being the last one here with imouto

[Anonymous No.]

>>20332184
it's more like what are you watching this season of anime big brother

[Anonymous No.]

this thread is gonna die PLEASE give me japanese forum suggestions. i don't want to bother anyone in the new thread.

[Anonymous No.]

dont just bother people in the next thread

make it

[Anonymous No.]

last

[Anonymous No.]

last for nuke chan

[Anonymous No.]

i dont srs but how is the actual content on lingq
is it correct that the content is free you just pay to srs

[Anonymous No.]

>>20332200
i'll try. let me know if i do it OK.

[Anonymous No.]

last for nukechan actually reading japanese while people here continue to ankidrone i mean holy shit i never thought id see the day lmao

[Anonymous No.]

you actually have no proof that anyone here even has anki installed lol

[Anonymous No.]

>>20332200
look what you did he actually made it because you werent clear

[Anonymous No.]

Where the fuck did y'all come from?
This board is slow as fuck and this thread will stay alive for a couple of hours.

[Anonymous No.]

yall

lol

i mean

yeehaw

[Anonymous No.]

i fucked up the "previous thread" link in the OP by linking to a specific post within this thread do i delete it oh fuck what have i done?

[Anonymous No.]

最後の呼ば
口に尿をの写真はどこですか

[Anonymous No.]

>>20332247
Never open a thread again, thank you very much.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20332025
Woah those people in the comments are hopeless, it really is a cult isn’t it

[Anonymous No.]

technicaly it is..

[Anonymous No.]

>>20332239

[Anonymous No.]

saigo

[Anonymous No.]

>>20332328
違う
私のメッセージが最後

[Anonymous No.]

iya kono wagasama da

[Anonymous No.]

わたしたちはゲイだった

[Anonymous No.]

わたしたちは来た
わたしたちは見た
わたしたちはゲイだった

[Anonymous No.]

>>20332393
でもせんれいをうけてもうゲイじゃなくなっている

かみさまありがとうございます