DJT - Daily Japanese Thread #2031

[Anonymous No.]

DJT comes to senses

Guide & resources:
https://itazuraneko.neocities.org/
https://djtguide.neocities.org/ (legacy)

How to learn Japanese TL;DR - Learn kana with DJT Kana (+writing if you want), read Tae Kim's grammar guide, then start reading and listening to compelling content intended for adult native speakers for several hours each day.

Last thread: >>20092606
One before last thread: >>20083147

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y o s h i
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i

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time for my reps

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tkyosam is the best japanese speaker ever. 2100% fluent.

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>>20099564
Man what's weird is that everything they discussed in that video we had talked about in the thread that day. Matt is on djt or there is some serious hivemind going on.

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>>20099623
I'm sure Matt knows about /djt/.

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巨根が大好き

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Would anyone be interested in setting up group buys for ebooks? The library is missing a lot of more recent material and it's all available on Amazon.

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broke up with my japanese girlfriend today
fuck my motivation to learn japanese has tanked

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>>20099936
get a japanese boyfriend

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【悲報】なんJ民 ヨかがわからない
1 ：名無しさん＠おーぷん：2017/07/22(土)19:50:49 ID:Y7W(主) ×
131: 風吹けば名無し＼(^o^)／ 2017/07/12(水) 08:54:35.82 ID:Efzkk37Z0
>>118
かわE

135: 風吹けば名無し＼(^o^)／ 2017/07/12(水) 08:55:11.20 ID:1vvgZKxVM
>>118
かわヨ

139: 風吹けば名無し＼(^o^)／ 2017/07/12(水) 08:55:32.56 ID:yPhu/gci0
>>135
そのEの反対ってどうやって出すんや？

146: 風吹けば名無し＼(^o^)／ 2017/07/12(水) 08:56:22.63 ID:4Q2CYzlua
>>139
よをカタカナで変換してみ？

472: 風吹けば名無し＼(^o^)／ 2017/07/12(水) 09:24:43.95 ID:U/Ne4vVV0
>>146
ヨ
出来たわサンガツ

2 ：名無しさん＠おーぷん ：2017/07/22(土)19:51:21 ID:Zl4 ×
草

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>>20099936
I had a simular situation. Took me years to start studying again. If I bump into her again I would blow her away with how much better I am now though. I guess in the end you can't control people, not even yourself. If you truly want to be fluent it's just a matter of time so get out of the way and let destiny happen.

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>>20099476
yoshi time for listening

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>>20099936
>learning japanese for girls

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>>20099995
thanks senpai
I'm thinking I should try to get right back into it
I was studying hard before meeting her, I can study again without her

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>>20100054
studying isn't learning

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>>20099476
I want to make japanese friends online before I visit japan
what is the best way I can do this? I know a little japanese but not enough to carry conversation.

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>>20100049
I was learning because I want to live there someday, having a girlfriend was never the goal
>>20100064
helpful comment

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>>20100049
This. Only legit reason is learning for 2d girls

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>>20100073
If you can't hold a decent conversation I wouldn't rush it yet. You don't want to be too much of a burden and talking too much early on wont be so helpful. You can meet japanese people all over the internet. There are lots in english teaching places asking how they can meet english speakers.

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tfw posted in old thread by mistake
I missed the jlpt registration. Thought it started in early october and ended in late october for some reason. I got n2 last year and wanted to try n1 this year. Woopsie.
Oh well. Good luck to all taking it

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>>20100129
How long did you study to get n2?

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>>20100149
6 months of sentence mining

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>>20100149
10 years of anki

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>>20100149
Poster you replied to here (I know it doesn't really matter). Think it was about 4-5 months of anki and reading.
I read a lot in a short period of time. Not as much anymore. But yeah I basically went from being able to read kana and a handful of kanji to n2 in that period of time because I read so much. If you want to gitgud fast read with rikaichan enabled on your browser until you no longer need it.

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>install yomichan
>setup was a pain
>hear rikaisama is better
>don't want to install because yomichan annoyed me

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>>20100423
Huh? What did you read in your browser?

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>>20100423
>4-5 months
Did you get a decent score?

I knew N2 was a joke but I didn't think it was that easy.

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>>20100470
Pixiv fanfiction. I'm a fujoshit
>>20100492
pic related
Could've done better but a pass is a pass.
Oh ya, I've also listened to 600+ blcds. So that probably helped with my listening skills.

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>>20099564
he failed the N1

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>>20100537
Fuck off stupid memer

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>>20100565
What? Do you think I made that up?

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>>20100537
>Pixiv fanfiction
>blcds
Is that really all you've used as your learning material so far?

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>>20100604
I said I used anki as well for those months until I broke the routine/stopped caring. I guess I could've added that I already had a decent grasp of grammar etc thanks to all the years of watching anime and listening to blcds. So all the "studying" I did was anki flashcards for memorizing kanji. I wrote them down to help memorize them as well. I have very little confidence that I could write a paragraph in japanese on paper though.

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>>20100655
>I said I used anki as well for those months until I broke the routine/stopped caring.
By "learning material" I meant "reading and listening material". Have you really not indulged in anything else besides fanfics and BL audio?

>I already had a decent grasp of grammar etc thanks to all the years of watching anime and listening to blcds.
So when you actually made the decision "Alright, I'm going to learn Japanese", what sort of level were you at by that point? Had you managed to pick up enough vocab and grammar that you were already able to understand your homoerotic audio recordings to some degree?

>So all the "studying" I did was anki flashcards for memorizing kanji.
So you never used Anki for vocab, only for kanji? What sort of method did you use for kanji?

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>>20100689
>By "learning material" I meant "reading and listening material". Have you really not indulged in anything else besides fanfics and BL audio?
No, not really. Even if I did it wouldn't have made any difference in comparison to the sheer volume of fanfiction I read. I probably read MLA 10 times over in gay jap fanfiction on piviv.
>So when you actually made the decision "Alright, I'm going to learn Japanese", what sort of level were you at by that point? Had you managed to pick up enough vocab and grammar that you were already able to understand your homoerotic audio recordings to some degree?
To a degree, yeah. I could follow plot lines sometimes(they can be plot heavy, especially longer series. It's not just ""plot""). Sometimes not really.
>So you never used Anki for vocab, only for kanji?
Actually I guess not. I just loaded up anki to check. I was using core 10k which gives you words and example sentences. Pic related
>What sort of method did you use for kanji?
I'd write down the kanji I was having difficulty remembering. That's about it.

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>>20100579
基地外w

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otintin misete

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Is shadowing a meme?

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If you already know know some Japanese (N3-N4) but still kinda suck at assimilating new Kanji AND want to write just do RTK.

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>>20100773
>assimilating new Kanji

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>>20100756
ママ大パニック
>>20100758

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>>20100774
>Definition of assimilate
>transitive verb
>1a : to take into the mind and thoroughly understand

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What makes VNcore better than the usual core decks?

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Anyone else finding themselves thinking in japanese when jerking off? I noticed I repeat the name of the girl I'm masturbating to in my head a lot, also saying stupid shit in a low voice after cumming like「草」 or「ファック」, there wasn't this much depth to fapping before I started learning japanese. I bet it's the only language that makes everything more meaningful in general.

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草

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>>20100805
solid post. thick, sturdy, solid nice epic
I like it
お疲れ様です

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>>20100794
Core is shit but VNcore is even worse since it has no audio or example sentences.

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>>20100816
×お疲れ様
○乙

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>2 threads alive

thanks OP

you fuck

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>>20100899
どっちでもいい上どうでもいい
お前みたいな自意識過剰なお勉強君は死ぬほどウザいわ

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>>20100934

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>>20100991
まだ何か？

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So I'm doing Tae kim

>宿題を今日から明日までする
>Will do homework from today tomorrow

I just spent the longest time trying to understand the sentence above, I couldn't work out how it was saying to do it tomorrow and not until tomorrow and it was annoying the shit out of me. I've only now just realise that I was right and it did say until tomorrow and I fucking misread the English translation in tae kim.

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Where can i find complete N2 mock test? Every time i search for some all i found is some questions, sometimes it doesn't even have any correction.
The test is in two weeks and i'm getting anxious, i'm starting to think i'm gonna fail please help.

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>>20101087
Why would you even do N2? I can almost understand N1 since it arguably has some use if you're living in Japan or moving there in the very near future, but with N2 you're just wasting your time and money on a test which proves and means absolutely nothing. Even passing N1 doesn't mean you're fluent.

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Time for immersion
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yFLYuKUKXoY

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>>20101074
This is why you should stop using shitty grammar guides with misleading definitions that will ingrain themselves and cripple your Japanese

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>>20101128
You can't say don't do x without suggesting an alternative Y. What should I do instead of Tae Kim, just give up now maybe?

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>>20101128
Not him, but I'll agree with you that Tae Kim's guide is bad. At the time when I was just starting out though, it was still the best option in spite of its flaws. Is there anything around these days that trumps Tae Kim?

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>>20101138
Start reading and acquire grammar naturally

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>>20101159
I am reading at the same time as doing Tae Kim, I generally alternate between the two, but without some sort of grammar guide it's a pain to try and decipher what is being said.

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>>20101074
その問題が出た日の翌日に解けたかな
>>20101113
snibbity snab
stop being such a salty crab and let him do what he wants

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>>20101113
Because you can put it on your cv, it is as simple as that.

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>>20101215
>CV
For those who don't know what it means it is the equivalent of a resume.

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>>20101215
Why would you put N2 on your CV?

>Skills
>Non-fluency in Japanese

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>>20101236
In my uni to do exchange in Japane they prioritise those who already have N2. And N2 is still better than nothing.

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it seems like someone is salty that he didn’t pass N2 and is now lashing on others

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>Been doing LOTS OF READING for 2 months now but still do anki core separately
>Started to notice about a week ago that I much more easily remember cards of words I've seen even just once, even if it was weeks before I got the card.
Fuck, I've seen the light.

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>>20101408
Now kill your core deck if you're using one and switch to mining exclusively.

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>>20101236
lol
N2 in six months is still patrician as fuck, though. Core10k >>> all other methods.

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>>20101153
Dictionary of Basic Japanese Grammar deck for anki. If I remember correctly, you can't download it from the official shared decks list, but it's not hard to find it on google.

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>>20101473
DoJG isn't a grammar guide, it's a grammar dictionary. It's not structured as a beginner resource at all. Definitely not a replacement for Tae Kim.

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>>20101074
Because から get's covered in a later lesson and まで is something you'll have to look up on your own.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RY2u8amvn3c
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=34dw7yo-7UU

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>>20101500
It's perfectly possible to follow DoBJG after learning hiragana if you're not a brainlet. They have a specific section, "Characteristics of Japanese Grammar", aimed at people who know nothing of Japanese. Even if someone finds it too overwhelming, he can just watch some random youtube videos explaining basic sentence constructions for beginners, of which there are tons.

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>>20101416
I might have to, I use to argue that core decks still have more useful vocab but I've been running into that vocab in reading anyway. I think it's better to just learn how to pick which words to mine.

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>>20101543
Problem is, the example sentences don't have any consideration for what grammar the reader may or may not know and just use whatever grammar the authors felt like using. A beginner guide should only use grammar which has already been covered and explained when demonstrating a new grammar point, otherwise a beginner has no hope of making sense of the sentence.

It can be easy to forget once you've been at this for a while, but try to remember back to what it was like for you when you only just started out and knew literally nothing. At least in my case, there were plenty of sentences I struggled with in Tae Kim in spite of them only introducing one new grammar point to me. I can only imagine how shit it would've been to go through the DoJG as if it were a grammar guide only to encounter half a dozen unknown grammar points per example sentence. I think telling beginners to read the DoJG is just stupid (actually, I don't think the DoJG is needed at all; anything not covered in Tae Kim is acquired easily enough through exposure).

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>>20101607
The key sentences in the dictionaries are written in such a way that one does not need to know other grammatical points to understand them (aside from the aforementioned "Characteristics of Japanese Grammar"). They are extremely easy to understand. The examples are additional material, and the beginner can focus on them in later reps when he has a better grasp of Japanese in general.

If someone is willing to put effort enough to become decently proficient in Japanese, then surpassing the initial hurdle of understanding DoBJG should be a walk in the park, specially with the help of Anki.

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>droning grammar dictionary
never change djt

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>>20099936
That's what you get traitor.

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>>20100794
Better order than the ones in the mega. And it's straight up frequency derived from VNs.

However like the other anon said there's no audio or example sentences. I'm OK with that since I read and listen a lot and, that more than makes up for those drawbacks.

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>>20101153
Tae Kim's guide is good. It's short and to the point. People just attack it because it's popular or because they got BTFO by Kim when they made some petty criticism and are forever butthurt because of it.

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>>20101802
Tae Kim's grammar guide is one of the better ones but the fact he's still learning Japanese himself should set off red flags. Definitely use his guide but don't make it the thing you cite, for example.

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>>20101651
Just got finished droning the DoJG deck and vncore. Mad?

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>>20101819
Only pity.

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>>20101817
>but the fact he's still learning Japanese himself should set off red flags
Speaking of which, memes aside, what is Sakubi like?

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>The fastest way to improve your Japanese is to simplify your lexicon. The fastest way to simplify your lexicon is to stop watching Attack on Titan and Goblin Slayer.
-Dogen's latest tweet
Is this true?

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>>20101907
sounds like someone who hates something because it's mainstream

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>>20101907
No.

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>>20101907
Or just watch dubs master race

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>>20101907
I think he's right in that the most common words will cover the most meaning, and it lets you focus more on grammar. I think he's wrong in that it's compelling content that motivates people to progress.

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Irozuku JP subs anywhere?

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>>20101907
True

Once you have a handle on simple vocabulary, you can define more complex things using those simpler terms. This naturally lends itself to enhanced learning since more often than not, you can refer back to similar kanji/words to reinforce meaning.

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Guys what does どんな頭してたら mean? usually it's followed by こんな

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>>20101989
Please write a complete sentence.

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>>20102037
こんなセリフどんな頭してたら浮かぶんだろう。

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>>20102058
I'm still learning, so don't trust me completely, but I think 「セリフが浮かぶ」means having some phrase or expression "floating in your mind", or thinking something. 「どんな頭してたら」probably means "what kind of mental state" or "what kind of mind". Therefore, the whole phrase would mean something like "What kind of mental state does [someone] have to be in to think something like that?".

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>>20101830
I only got thru half of tae kim before i got bored, but i finished sakubi in like 2 or 3 days. It greatly helped me get started reading japanese, but ultimately what helped the most was reading. It's the fastest way to find out what you know, what you dont know, and what you need to work on. It'll also give the fastest growth.

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Where's the download to vncore?

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>>20101817
Tae Kim knows Japanese.

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>>20102176
dude

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>>20102176
探してはいいだろう

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>>20101236
not that anon but I'd like to interject, in my country people slap B2 English on their CVs
so you tell me

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>>20102179
The introduction page says he's still learning.

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>>20102224
Are you retarded?

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>>20102231
are you?

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>>20102224
You never stop learning, not even your native language.

There are English words right now that you don't understand, yet you'll have no problem accepting their meanings when you run into them, even if you don't 100% comprehend it.

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>>20102100
It does make sense the way you described it, and it seems to be used in similar way a lot of the time from what I can tell, for example どんな頭してたらそんなこと出来るんやろ。or どんな頭してたらこんなの思いつくんだ。

Thank you.

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>>20100423
>4-5 months
>passed N2
Meanwhile how the fuck is ヌクちゃん studying HARD since 2006 and can't pass the goddamn N3.. somebody get that man some adderral or something holy hell.

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>>20102299
k

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>>20102254
if tae kim says he's still learning then he's just being insincere to try to make the reader feel more at ease. to do otherwise would banal and perhaps, more importantly, being humble makes one seem more erudite. also >>20102299

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>>20102313
Humbleness is often misunderstood in the west as people are basically taught modesty is a weakness.

[yung jamal or w/e !K/1sx/RVXY No.]

>>20100934
stfu kokoro chan

[yung jamal or w/e !K/1sx/RVXY No.]

ok threads over time to go next >>20092606

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>>20102382
I'm not going back to /matt general/

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>>20102301
ヌクちゃん said he seriously studied for a couple years and quit. he mentioned getting a japanese linguist rank in the navy from their language test, but never took the jlpt, just the j-cat.

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>>20099540
this dog looks stupid

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https://www.jlpt.jp/e/samples/n1/index.html
Test yourself.

[Anonymous No.]

https://youtu.be/yEIhsrwGAYY?t=1m40s
nuke talking smack about djt again.

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>>20102533
pretty much everything he says about us is probably true.

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>>20102533
He didn't really talk smack. Just commented that redditors are more toxic than us and that we meme a lot.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EvCJJUtYi0I
New みさ
she did immersion style teaching

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>>20102533
Ayye nuke does come here!
Sup ヌクちゃん!
がんばって！

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>Friday means "Money day"
Pottery

[yung jamal or w/e !K/1sx/RVXY No.]

>>20102533
lmao

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lol he busts out Jamal on his english sub'd meme

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>Shin-Kaizen Master
>N2 Grammar
>1 lesson per day
>Forget all the terms from the previous lesson
Fuck

[Anonymous No.]

Just finished Tae Kim and kind of wondering if I should just quit before I go too deep with learning moonspeak since the only point for doing it is japanese media, but my consumption of jap stuff is just one anime or h-game every few weeks at best nowadays. I don't want to travel to Japan or interact with japs either so that isn't very motivating too. Please help.

[yung jamal or w/e !K/1sx/RVXY No.]

[yung jamal or w/e !K/1sx/RVXY No.]

>>20102743
i mean hes very much beyond help its no surprise that he doesnt understand why its important

[yung jamal or w/e !K/1sx/RVXY No.]

he literally thinks by watching subs youre trying to learn specific words from them lol

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>>20102759
If your desire to knowing Japanese isn't enough to motivate you then it's going to be hard, since you clearly don't have much of a need for it.

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I wonder how long it will take him to fully embrace our memes

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>>20102533
fucking lol

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hey nuke review vn core 1250 it's in the treasure box in the library in the OP

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>>20102787
I don't think I have desire for it, it's indifference. Only started moon at random since a timeslot became free recently and wanted to fill it with something but I never thought about the why until now, and now it doesn't seem like a very good choice since there's no tangible difference to knowing it besides digesting content without subs every few weeks.

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>>20102878
oh he actually mentioned it nvm

it was actually curated btw

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>>20102882
Well, whatever you choose to do I wish you good luck.

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>>20102785
doesn't matter. nobody besides you recommends it because it's retarded.

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>>20102882
learn the French or something instead then

or the piano, or pretty much any other skill

t. retard who has no use for Japanese but is already in too deep to quit

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>>20101907
>tfw eating GS instead of watching
skipped a lot of words while mining

[yung jamal or w/e !K/1sx/RVXY No.]

>>20102947
cant really say i expect any more or less at this point

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>>20101907
I've been saying that for a while now. Most of the things they say in anime, especially scfi/fantasy isn't going to be nearly as useful as lets say a jdrama. I think his point is that you can learn the weird words later and just have a tightened up core of useful vocab first.

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>>20102947
Wrong.

[yung jamal or w/e !K/1sx/RVXY No.]

>>20102953
idk why folks got this kind of mentality dont worry about japanese and just have fun ?

>>20103027
only problem i have is its still tv drama

why do it half ass and watch gay ass shows for stay at home moms and teenage girls when you could just start engaging with real unscripted japanese ?

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>>20102533
nuke seems like a good sport, he should make a regular feature of this. maybe we could convince him to read more

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>>20103030
There is even science to back it up. Reading english will just make you better at english. Don't get trolled by jamal.

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>>20099476
>How to learn Japanese TL;DR - Learn kana with DJT Kana (+writing if you want), read Tae Kim's grammar guide, then start reading and listening to compelling content intended for adult native speakers for several hours each day.

So you guys don't recommend learning vocab using anki before starting read?

[yung jamal or w/e !K/1sx/RVXY No.]

>>20103044
whos trolling me telling you to do a thing that will 100% without fail give you something that you can actually build upon once youve spent extensive time doing it or the folks who push the garbage that lead to shit like geyline guy

huh sounds to me youre just really afraid that people might start making it through the nihongo gate you are trying to keep with something so simple and easy

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>>20103040
>when you could just start engaging with real unscripted japanese
How so? By the way some of those jdramas are pretty good and made for dudes. Like Ultraman, Kamen rider, Arakawa, Crows blood, etc. But even teh chick ones are way better than anything I've seen on western tv. At least they feel much more interesting.

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>>20103053
Nothing in life is easy, if it's easy it's not doing anything.

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>>20103048
people who know what they're talking about recommend doing a premade vocabulary deck to learn your first 1k or so words so you don't waste your time mining super basic shit

[yung jamal or w/e !K/1sx/RVXY No.]

>>20103062
theres japanese people out there online and in person go bother them

life is a cyoa dude its like telling you to go get a job youre just gonna have to get up and do it yourself

but most people now just want the lazy way and will dismiss anything that requires them to engage on their own

and to that i say dont spend your time doing half assed shit that you dont wanna do anyway and just watch fuckin anime ftw

>>20103077
actually language learning is really easy even a toddler can do it

[yung jamal or w/e !K/1sx/RVXY No.]

>>20103048
i mean you can do whatever you want if you really wanna but it's not gonna be what makes you get good you only get good from https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SlCRfTmBSGs

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>（アカネ）響くん “武士は食わねど高笑い” ってやつ？

>Hibiki, are you the "stiff-upper-lip- even-when-hungry samurai" type?

can anybody explain this meaning? the translation doesnt give me any understanding.

[yung jamal or w/e !K/1sx/RVXY No.]

>>20103087
tfw all the good fps worth practicing have been dead for 15 years : (

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>>20103044
I'm not parotting jamal but speaking from my own experience. 10k hours may be insane, but with 4k hours under my belt listening comprehension is a joke to me.
As long you don't go full americlap and pay at least some attention to the dialogues, even english subbed can be beneficial, especially if you don't know any Japanese.

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>>20103062
>Kamen rider
isn't this really cheesy and shitty?

[yung jamal or w/e !K/1sx/RVXY No.]

>>20103092
:(

[yung jamal or w/e !K/1sx/RVXY No.]

>>20103094
only the people with the experience are really gonna get it so its tough but thanks for speaking up #metoo

[Anonymous No.]

>>20103097
It's basically the equivelant to 'the flash' in the US, so yea cheesy as fuck

[Anonymous No.]

>>20103103
you forgot to take off your signature

[yung jamal or w/e !K/1sx/RVXY No.]

>>20103108
you forgot to put it on

[Anonymous No.]

>>20103094
How good are you at reading? Is listening comprehension "a joke" to you for *any* anime?

[yung jamal or w/e !K/1sx/RVXY No.]

when you start reading having watched a sufficient amount of english subbed anime youll find that you know that a lot of words make sense in specific locations before you can even read them and you will be right a lot

can you imagine how nice it is to have some kind of working japanese that you basically understand a lot of things (at a basic level mind you) that the hardest part is recognizing kanji??

this will be your path if you just fuckin enjoy the animes for a while and once you start gaining skills with the written language holy shit you are gonna be so far ahead of the flashtards and whatever you would call nuke chan its gonna be crazy

and then when you start adding social interaction to it holy shit its gonna be like someone finally opened the curtains to bathe you in the radiant light of the rising sun and its gonna feel so good

life is so easy once youve watched like 10000 hours or maybe just a teeny bit less of anime with english subs i promise

[yung jamal or w/e !K/1sx/RVXY No.]

i mean if you're a loser who doesn't like anime you can probably make it work without the anime

but is that really a life worth living i say no

[Anonymous No.]

>>20103097
It's cheesy but it fucking rules. It's just live action anime, ultimately.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20103162
10000 hours is such a long time, probably i will be dead before i can reach that amount.

[yung jamal or w/e !K/1sx/RVXY No.]

>>20103227
well maybe just watch anime for a long time until shit starts to feel good when you try to do other things like play a video game and go from there ┐(‘～` )┌

you dont even have to watch anime if you dont want to (tho its fuckin gay if u dont) its mostly the many hours and english subs that are important on getting you going with being able to learn

[Anonymous No.]

>>20103162
>imagine typing all of this out and still being obviously wrong to everybody

[Anonymous No.]

>>20103227
2000 should be plenty to get you started.

[yung jamal or w/e !K/1sx/RVXY No.]

>>20103252
yea? show me someone whos right with proof im still waiting its been 2.5 years

[Anonymous No.]

guys i deleted anki. i have a mental illness where i don't think i can learn japanese without putting stuff i learn into anki. i'm just going to read and watch a lot with a dictionary from now on wish me luck

[Anonymous No.]

>>20103271
https://effectiviology.com/best-subtitles-learning-foreign-language/

To summerize, unless you're an absolute super noob foreign language subtitles are better.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20103298
"absolute super noob" does not apply to Japanese. Without furigana you literally can't read the words in this language unless you already know them or are very familliar with used kanji components.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20103320
The nice part is once you have a fairly decent base vocabulary and kanji knowledge built up, it's easier to learn new shit because not everything is new shit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20101684
So is it something a beginner should avoid since it lacks those things?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20103088
Looks like an alternate of 武士は食わねど高楊枝
it has to do with samurai being prideful even when destitute. It can be a good/bad thing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20103529
It shouldn't be a problem if you finished your mandatory xxxx hours of anime.

[yung jamal or w/e !K/1sx/RVXY No.]

わたしは食わねどゲイ

[Anonymous No.]

>>20103529
just do it. it doesn't matter.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20103529
As a complete beginner you should start with 3 months of meditation and RTK immersion.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20103626
Thanks for the straight answer.

[yung jamal or w/e !K/1sx/RVXY No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>tfw actually enjoying anime again because of jamal's sage advice

b a s e d

[Anonymous No.]

>>20103706
Studying is meditating. Both are about honing in your thought so they don't wonder aimlessly. Things will pop up from your past and other random distractions, but you have to stay present, clear, and focused. That's 99% of what seperates the slow learners from the fast.

[Anonymous No.]

what separates the slow learners from the fast is how much time they spend reading and playing eroge and watching cartoons

[Anonymous No.]

>>20103743
Cool so you should be fluent around 2030 then, and also know more about anime then any japanese person.

[yung jamal or w/e !K/1sx/RVXY No.]

>>20103743

[yung jamal or w/e !K/1sx/RVXY No.]

>>20103781
you should fuck with some real ninja otaku sometime

[Anonymous No.]

I'm not sure why **** claims to advocate for that which will give you the best long term results. You should be meditating for a year or maybe even two before even thinking about Japanese. Your mindfulness will be so amazing that your learning efficiency will be quadruple what it would have been otherwise, which means it will have taken a total of 4 years to become native level (factoring 2 years of meditation) rather than the 6 it'd have taken without meditation. I'm disappointed. I really hope his updated timeline video addresses this.

[Anonymous No.]

>6 years
8, but whatever.

[yung jamal or w/e !K/1sx/RVXY No.]

give that shit a rest this is the 新時代 of watching and enjoying anime and having fun in general

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PW5fIl7fvvs

[Anonymous No.]

any cool new memes on matt's website?

[Anonymous No.]

I'm actually able to enjoy anime again now that I watch it without subs.

[yung jamal or w/e !K/1sx/RVXY No.]

you gotta have subs first to know the 喜び of life without them

[Anonymous No.]

>>20103806
what about sci fi anime with fake words

[yung jamal or w/e !K/1sx/RVXY No.]

just face it you cant stop this train of good vibes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yYcAyremV5o

[Anonymous No.]

damn i wish I could could chill with jamal irl

[yung jamal or w/e !K/1sx/RVXY No.]

do you really wanna just come over and sit on the patio and watch me post on djt all day lol

[Anonymous No.]

me too, I'd love to しゃべる with him and smoke some 鈍く
>>20103837
If I was there you wouldn't have to shitpost on djt bro, you could banter with me

[yung jamal or w/e !K/1sx/RVXY No.]

theres still gonna be posting for sure

[Anonymous No.]

>>20103837
I wanna watch anime with Jamal Sensei!!

[Anonymous No.]

jamal is gay and 69 years old, u dont want to be alone with him

[Anonymous No.]

>>20103027
>Most of the things they say in anime, especially scfi/fantasy isn't going to be nearly as useful as lets say a jdrama

Wrong. It's really fucking useful for watching the sci-fi/fantasy shows that I want to watch

[yung jamal or w/e !K/1sx/RVXY No.]

>>20103869
m(＿＿)m

[Anonymous No.]

just sitting in jamal's living room the whole afternoon drinking beer and shitposting on our phones while watching JoJo on the big screen

[Anonymous No.]

How are you supposed to pronounce it when text has stars in it?

[yung jamal or w/e !K/1sx/RVXY No.]

>>20103888
ok now ur just too see thru

[yung jamal or w/e !K/1sx/RVXY No.]

>>20103889
the star is silent

[Anonymous No.]

finally I can read djt

[yung jamal or w/e !K/1sx/RVXY No.]

>>20103904
that girl look fucked up i hope shes ok

[Anonymous No.]

>>20103900
Don't bullshit me Jamal.

[Anonymous No.]

she's probably not ok, looks like someone drugged her and put her in a box

[Anonymous No.]

what's an easy ゲイ vn?

[Anonymous No.]

onomatopeia words are low key kinda gay

why can't something just glitter? why does it always have to キラキラ glitter? it's redundant and sounds dumb

[Anonymous No.]

>>20103948
but you don't have to use the words キラキラ and 輝く together

[yung jamal or w/e !K/1sx/RVXY No.]

>>20103948
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IViueTs20II

[Anonymous No.]

>>20103957
in the novels I've been reading they almost always pair onomatopoeia words with their respective verbs in descriptions and such

it always strikes me as weird because it's so unlike anything in western languages

[Anonymous No.]

>>20103948
you carry the EOP soul.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20101907
>Dogen
>>20088737

[Anonymous No.]

>>20101907
He's creating a false dilemma. There's nothing stopping a person from watching moeshit AND Goblin Slayer, but he's speaking as if you can only choose one or the other. I'm watching no less than 17 shows this season.

[yung jamal or w/e !K/1sx/RVXY No.]

do lots of shit ftw

[Anonymous No.]

>>20104110
See >>20104074
Dogen's actual advice is to watch the same live action shit over and over again. He thinks anime in general is not good for learning.
I don't really get it because Goblin Slayer and SnK do not use some kind of fake Japanese, you can learn plenty of basic things from watching them and even the fantasy specific shit is very helpful if you like those anime and want to better understand others like them in Japanese.

[Anonymous No.]

what's r/djt/ drinking tonight

[yung jamal or w/e !K/1sx/RVXY No.]

>>20104128
its prolly stemming from his own insecurities about his weird anime narrator voice

[Anonymous No.]

>>20104133
精子

[yung jamal or w/e !K/1sx/RVXY No.]

>>20104133
高品質の天然水

[Anonymous No.]

>>20104133
紅茶

[Anonymous No.]

>>20102119
>I only got thru half of tae kim before i got bored, but i finished sakubi in like 2 or 3 days. It greatly helped me get started reading japanese
Did you find the explanations in Sakubi easier to understand compared to Tae Kim? I remember when I read Tae Kim I found a lot of his explanations really confusing, and I felt like his super literal example sentences didn't help matters either. It was enough to get me honestly frustrated a number of times.

It would be nice if there were a better guide we could recommend to beginners, but I've never bothered to give Sakubi a look because of all the negative attention that tends to surrounds it in these threads. Being that I'm not a beginner anymore and can no longer really appreciate it from that perspective, I don't know that I could make a fair judgement of it even if I did read it now.

[yung jamal or w/e !K/1sx/RVXY No.]

>>20104133

[Anonymous No.]

Two hours a day is lot more than it sounds... Honestly, I'd go with 30 minutes to an hour and probably not every day.

Doing two hours every day is too much to retain unless you're working on the same thing for a few days at a time. Even then you would probably just burn out eventually.

That just me though... If you can manage to do two hours every day and absorb all that information then more power to you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20104197
>180 hours a year
See you when you're fluent in 2030.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20104155
>It would be nice if there were a better guide we could recommend to beginners
https://www.wasabi-jpn.com/japanese-grammar/wasabis-online-japanese-grammar-reference/

[Anonymous No.]

>>20104155
>I felt like his super literal example sentences didn't help matters either.
Those were a godsend to me.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20104229
this looks like a meme

[Anonymous No.]

>>20104219
ah shit tagalog looks harder than I thought

[yung jamal or w/e !K/1sx/RVXY No.]

the best thing you can do to "beginners" is ignore them and pretend they dont exist

as soon as you give them your brain aids its all over

[Anonymous No.]

>>20103904

what vn?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20104219
What, why does Japanese have an asterix and not Chinese which is arguably much worse?

[yung jamal or w/e !K/1sx/RVXY No.]

>>20104260
see this >>20103948

[Anonymous No.]

>>20104197
You're overestimating how much two hours is. You can easily go over that without even realizing it if you're reading something compelling. If I stopped after 30 minutes I'd never get anywhere.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20104260
>Chinese which is arguably much worse?
lol Chinese is a fucking joke compared to Japanese.

[yung jamal or w/e !K/1sx/RVXY No.]

>>20104260
theres no nuke marines of chinese

people just learn it

[Anonymous No.]

>>20104133
pineapple juice from a tin can, quite depressing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20104260
Chinese has no grammar and a simpler writing system.

[yung jamal or w/e !K/1sx/RVXY No.]

>>20104133
pissssssssssssss

[Anonymous No.]

>>20104155
Japanese the manga way is really good. Only issue is that the pdf isn't a proper digitization of the book so it takes more work to use for reference.

[yung jamal or w/e !K/1sx/RVXY No.]

god i love the wayne p lammers book what an epic publication

[Anonymous No.]

What's it like to read without rikaichamp?

[yung jamal or w/e !K/1sx/RVXY No.]

you can feel the authors thoughts and feelings and get a general idea of what they are like as a dude

[Anonymous No.]

>>20104197

Whatever you are learning, spending lot of time in one sitting allows one to go much deeper. Though maybe some retention work doesn't require this.

Also this is my personal opinion but I think if you are having fun you aren't trying hard enough, this applies to pretty much everything in life.

[yung jamal or w/e !K/1sx/RVXY No.]

its not about the quantity of the time but the quality

its not about if youre trying hard its about if youre trying smart

but none of this really matters with learning nihongo because you dont have to try and you only have to watch 10000 hours of english subbed anime to get started ┐(‘～` )┌

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

Just noticed there's yet another Rikai replacement now for Firefox:
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/nazeka/

I'm assuming based on the username that this is made by the same Wareya behind that VN stats page and who is also alleged to have written a certain controversial grammar guide.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20104468
Oh, this is actually pretty good. It has its own built-in version of those auto-scrolling blank HTML pages + clipboard inserter from the resources guide for hooking VNs, and the pop-up actually moves along with your mouse instead of having a fixed position above each word. Performance-wise it feels really fast and responsive. It apparently has Anki support too but I haven't tried that out yet.

[Anonymous No.]

I'm just gonna go over kana again

[Anonymous No.]

>>20104421
How do you describe the grammar on the left? I want to look it up

[Anonymous No.]

>>20104533
After the ga i mean

[Anonymous No.]

>>20104533
>>20104534
What are you talking about? Verbs modifying nouns?

[Anonymous No.]

Why aren't you playing superior Japanese games right now?

[Anonymous No.]

I'll stick to reading DoJG's example sentences.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20104544
oh yes haha thank you

[yung jamal or w/e !K/1sx/RVXY No.]

>>20104545
looks positively enthralling

[Anonymous No.]

This one even has pure girls

[Anonymous No.]

that game is pretty good i played it on ps vita 2 years ago

[Anonymous No.]

>>20104569
Is she deaf?

[yung jamal or w/e !K/1sx/RVXY No.]

>>20104569
but does it have fat blimpy ass girls

[Anonymous No.]

>>20104591
Doesn't seem like it

[Anonymous No.]

>>20104610
No but it has cute dancers

[yung jamal or w/e !K/1sx/RVXY No.]

>>20104649
thats a disease mate

[Anonymous No.]

>>20104649
does this game contain hentai content?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20104689
obv not its a nippon ichi game for the ps vita

[Anonymous No.]

>>20104689
it's a console game you can answer that question yourself

[Anonymous No.]

>>20104569
I hate this font and style

[Anonymous No.]

>>20104706

[Anonymous No.]

>>20104689
No

>>20104701
It's on Steam now

>>20104706
>I hate this font
Because you can't read it?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20104468
>>20104501
Played around with it some more and this definitely beats everything else out there for me. Its behaviour is way more customisable than the competition and it has a bunch of useful options that I've never seen in any other Rikai replacement, like
>lookups of hiragana strings will not produce definitions that are not at least usually kana

The downside is that the Anki support is not very good, at least for now (I presume the author will improve it at some point). Functionally, it works a similar way to Yomichan's Anki support, but it doesn't seem like there's any accompanying Anki add-on so you have to manually save the cards it creates to a text file and then import said text file into Anki. It also seems that you have no control over which information you want to mine about a particular word*. Fortunately I don't use Anki so this isn't an issue for me, but for others I could see this being a deal-breaker.

*Default seems to be: word (dictionary form), reading(s), definition, word (as it appeared in the text), source sentence, position with in the sentence... I think (e.g. mining 一撃 from "一撃で命を奪う…" will yield the number "1"), and finally the word's JMDict ID. Doesn't seem possible to select just one reading unfortunately, so mining 少女, for instance, will give you 《しょうじょ、おとめ》 in the reading field (pic related). Also, since the cards have to be manually saved to text, it goes without saying that they don't contain audio.

[yung jamal or w/e !K/1sx/RVXY No.]

i mean i guess the fonts gay but nothin to specifically nipah about

[Anonymous No.]

its a perfectly good and not gay font wtf

[Anonymous No.]

>>20104729
you can technically get the audio from the JMdict id but it's involved in you have to know what you're doing

[yung jamal or w/e !K/1sx/RVXY No.]

its prolly more just a im just a fan of the classics issue

if it even feels a little like it was made in the last 20 years my aspergers acts up

so its not really the fonts fault

[Anonymous No.]

if your audio doesnt have the pitch the way its used with particles and other words then its pretty much worthless anyway

you anki drones' next job should be putting together a core deck with all the audio from this NHK pitch accent dictionary

[Anonymous No.]

>>20104760
Where do you get this NHK accent dictionary EPWING from? I've seen it in Matt's videos but I've never been able to find a download for it.

[Anonymous No.]

Not him, but I downloaded a large epwing pack from I don't remember where and the pitch accent dictionary was in there.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20104768
i downloaded it from a link in one of his video descriptions

https://youtu.be/BzuLGmkihf4

its in the 8gb epwing pack

[Anonymous No.]

Hey dudes my cards aint got audio how convinient for me to find you guys talking about audio

[Anonymous No.]

>>20104790
Ah, so it was in that massive RAR. I wasn't sure if that file was just a repackage of the EPWING torrent from Rutracker and didn't want to download a huge 8GB file only to find out that the NHK dictionary I wanted wasn't in there, so I tried looking for a separate download for it but never managed to turn it up.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20104817
>huge 8gb file

your living in the past my friendo

[Anonymous No.]

>>20104760
How does that tell you the pitch accent?

[Anonymous No.]

>changing your switch language/locale to jp instantly turns all your games to japanese.
BASED NINTENDBROS

[Anonymous No.]

>>20104822
It's huge when you're downloading from a shitty file-sharing site with a 500kB/s download speed. Size affects more than just storage.

[yung jamal or w/e !K/1sx/RVXY No.]

>bricking your nintendo bc u cant figure out how to make it english again >_<

[Anonymous No.]

>>20104867
that notation means the pitch goes up where the red line is and drops back down at the little hook

you also see it noted with numbers like いもうと[4]

平板型 words have no hook

>>20104895
true but unimportant since all you have to do is click a button and wait a couple hours

[Anonymous No.]

>>20104894
it even does you the favor of making some english games japanese and when theres no option to change the settings back to english in the menu you are reminded to go back to immersing in real compelling content :)

[yung jamal or w/e !K/1sx/RVXY No.]

ah yes the ass immersion approach

[Anonymous No.]

just be up to your ass in nihongo & you are set to win the jlpt gold medal

[yung jamal or w/e !K/1sx/RVXY No.]

just immerse your ass into your gamer seat and to hentai beat your meat

[Anonymous No.]

>watch 1,5 hour worth of your favourite show
>dont feel like watching any more
I don't think I will make it lads

[yung jamal or w/e !K/1sx/RVXY No.]

>>20105036
whats said show

[Anonymous No.]

>>20104155
It just kind of varies. I think some of the explanations in TK were a bit long-winded, and some of the explanations in Sakubi are way too brief. But ultimately, no grammar guide is perfect, just something to quickly build a groundwork with so you can start reading ASAP.

[Anonymous No.]

>だがな・・・偶然手に入れたハズのこの体
それがオレとおまえを引き合わせたのかもしれん
Two questions for this one
>What's ハズ doing in the first sentence?
>What's かもしれん?
Thanks lads

[Anonymous No.]

>>20105073
https://jisho.org/search/kamoshirenai

[yung jamal or w/e !K/1sx/RVXY No.]

>>20105073

[Anonymous No.]

https://youtu.be/yEIhsrwGAYY?t=1681

is this GOAT kind of deck?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20105078
cheers
>>20105087
it's a legitimate question, I really don't know what hazu means - it usually just gets used as a shorter way of saying husband transliterated

[Anonymous No.]

>>20105117
>it usually just gets used as a shorter way of saying husband transliterated

[Anonymous No.]

i feel like if i start watching a show that isn't urusei yatsura, i'll never finish watching it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20105051
ハロー! モーニング。

[yung jamal or w/e !K/1sx/RVXY No.]

>>20105135
maybe just watch all the other fine rumiko takahashi shows? after all shes the one who invented anime

>>20105156
well thats your problem its not anime its just idol crap

[Anonymous No.]

>>20105164
anime is for fags, idol drama is for patrician alpha males

[yung jamal or w/e !K/1sx/RVXY No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>20105156
頭垢が見えるけど、気のせい？

[Anonymous No.]

>>20105135
i feel like if i start watching a show that is urusei yatsura, i'll never finish watching it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20105253
it's a fun show, i can usually hardly even finish most shows i watch but i'm 35 deep and still going pretty strong with UY.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20105228
possible, but it may just be the lightning
they put weird stuff on their hair so it might be part of that too

[Anonymous No.]

Recalling a definition based on the context of the sentence on the front of a card isn't a bad thing because the nature of sentence mining is that you'll be adding sentences with that word being used in other contexts.

[Anonymous No.]

Any way to bulk lookup lists and tag them?

I've been mining a lot of words and I don't know which ones are actually common or useful but it would be a bitch to look them up and tag them all individually.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20105380
why not just read instead of looking at a list of random out of context sentences

[yung jamal or w/e !K/1sx/RVXY No.]

nah dude just need to drill some nice sentences from a bunch of different places and that arent designed to teach anything

[Anonymous No.]

>>20105409
Just mine them all retard. If you're that picky then only mine words you've seen twice or more

[yung jamal or w/e !K/1sx/RVXY No.]

if you wanna mine some words i got deposit here for you https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IKdBX_cqtAs

[Anonymous No.]

https://www.springfieldspringfield.co.uk/episode_scripts.php?tv-show=doraemon-2014&season=1

I just found this, I'm not sure how useful it'll be yet though since it doesn't tell you which characters say what.

Script for some Doraemon episodes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20105380
In sentence mining you don't put the sentence on the front. Sorry your mom didn't take her folic acid, anon

[Anonymous No.]

>>20105648
Nothing wrong with drilling what you already know.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20105648
that's just normal mining if you're sentence mining you're supposed to put the sentence on the front like all of the people who suggest sentence mining who did ajatt talk about sentence mining being

[Anonymous No.]

>手袋
>"gloves"
>Not hand bag

[Anonymous No.]

>>20105671
Ah I see

[Anonymous No.]

>>20105732
Gloves are bags for your hands.

[Anonymous No.]

>足袋
>靴下
one makes sense and the other doesn't

[Anonymous No.]

my love for learning Japanese is finally revitalized :)
Very happy

[Anonymous No.]

So, breakthrough for me. Instead of only looking for simple sentences I simply use a dictionary on everything and try to understand everything now. This is a natural SRS for simple things in the sentences and primes me to learn the more complicated things when I'm ready

[Anonymous No.]

Geyline 2.0?

[Anonymous No.]

Wrapped up the basics (not essential, yet) on grammar a few times and fortunately, I know these words. Please rate for accuracy.

>Thank you for coming to play today.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20105840
Think of it in terms of 上着・下着

[Anonymous No.]

>>20105965
下着は肌着ともいうよ

ブラとパンティーね

[Anonymous No.]

>>20105950
Hey what's this?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20105976
さすがだな妹
英語は全然わからん
もっと読め続けばわかるようになるだろう

[Anonymous No.]

>>20105950
Actually it says "Arigato for giving me the favor of coming and playing today also ne."

[Anonymous No.]

ブラとパンティーがどうしたのかしら

[Anonymous No.]

>>20106016
絶対履いてない
全然要らないんだから

[Anonymous No.]

>>20106011
actually it says arogato for coming inside the pleasure

[Anonymous No.]

Does anyone have azw3s of SukaSuka? Library only has epub

[Anonymous No.]

>>20104790
finally finished downloading it but the audio won't play

[Anonymous No.]

>>20106214
what are you using?

it works for me on ebwin

[Anonymous No.]

>>20106011
>>20106057
So I'm guessing this thread doubles as a shitposting hovel?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20106215
Tried qolibri (via Wine since I'm on n00buntu and can't get the native Linux version to build) and ebview and neither works. Just tried installing ebwin in Wine though and fortunately the audio works fine with that. Thanks.

[Anonymous No.]

I've only been learning for 5 months and I'm already holding conversations with natives on discord.

What is your excuse?

[Anonymous No.]

as jamal would put it, "wow thats some aids"

i'm about to turn myself into the hospital for aids treatment because of this

[Anonymous No.]

日本語はちょちょいのちょいですね

[Anonymous No.]

>>20106249
>one word
>two words, one particle, copula
>reaction image
>two words, one particle, copula; two words, one particle
Even someone who just finished Tae Kim or Genki could manage this level of "conversation".

[Anonymous No.]

>>20106249
>native Japanese
>has a picture of a white baby as an avatar

[Anonymous No.]

>>20106294
We talk all the time, every day. It's not just this.
>>20106298
I don't understand that either, but I already know he is a native from outside of discord.

[Anonymous No.]

>3d male
>has a picture of a 2d anime girl as an avatar

[Anonymous No.]

>human begin
>exists
frankly embarrassing

[Anonymous No.]

for real tho i dont know why you posted that here its just some gross twitch emotes and you said like 3 things one of which sounded pretty stilted

[Anonymous No.]

>>20106308
Motivation. It doesn't take very long to get to the point of talking with actual Japanese people. I started in May. Some people stick to Anki or some shit for years but it is not necessary.

[Anonymous No.]

yeah it's not necessary indeed, that was some top tier nihongo you displayed there lad, really showed them anki drones'

[Anonymous No.]

>>20106320
Yeah sorry I didn't scroll until I cherry picked some length conversation. You are aware what conversation looks like on discord / twitch, right? It's not exactly master's thesis level.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20106313
yeah i don't think japanese people existing online is a mystery to anyone

the issue is nihongo is kind of like pregnancy and you dont really get anything if you push it out at 5 months

>>20106325
mb u should have cherry picked

[Anonymous No.]

>>20106335
>yeah i don't think japanese people existing online is a mystery to anyone
>the issue is nihongo is kind of like pregnancy and you dont really get anything if you push it out at 5 months
What do you mean? I could have just anki droned for a year or 2, or I could do it for 3 months and then learn by actually talking to people rather than talking in my head. I learned more in the past week than I did in my 3 months of Anki.

>mb u should have cherry picked
but that would require caring

[Anonymous No.]

Teaching something you just learned is a good way to reinforce it because it forces you to recall information. This is usually done in a controlled environment such as a classroom so the teacher may correct any misinformation. Just some thoughts

[Anonymous No.]

お前達は我等が嫌い

[Anonymous No.]

>>20106249
>Being proud of talking to natives
They dumb down their Japanese for you until they're sure of your level. I had a ""conversation"" with a native a week into study about how I hate エビ and it was smooth communication but she was talking to me like I was a 3yo.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20106338
obv you cared enough to post the image

all i mean is theres a limit to the quality of your interaction when you cant get complex thoughts across or understand when someone else is doing so

the best you can get at 5 months is a little hugbox where everyone knows you arent native and watches their step to make sure you dont get confused or feel uncomfortable for it, which is nice from a social perspective but not the most conducive to learning

if everybody in djt just wanted to tickle party with irc buddies we would be doing it, go peek at 2ch if you want to see the jp version of derisive ironic memes and argumentative shitposting

[Anonymous No.]

>>20106372
to be fair hating shrimp is what a 3yo would talk about

[Anonymous No.]

>>20106372
Well obviously, and I do the same for them if they want to learn English. That's the best part.

>>20106383
>the best you can get at 5 months is a little hugbox where everyone knows you arent native and watches their step to make sure you dont get confused or feel uncomfortable for it, which is nice from a social perspective but not the most conducive to learning

Not the most conducive to learning? Are you retarded? I actually cannot think of a better way to learn than talking to people who speak natively, who are willing to correct you if you make a mistake, and can answer questions whenever you want. What the fuck could be better than that?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20106400
It's just nothing to show off about. "Oh look at me, after only FIVE MONTHS I can have baby talk in a discord!"

[Anonymous No.]

>>20106407
I'm not showing off. If I wanted to show off I would have found a good screencap to grab of a conversation to make it look like I know way more than I should.

But I actually do know what more than most people do at 5 months, because most people are doing it wrong.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20106413
>I've only been learning for 5 months and I'm already holding conversations with natives on discord.
>What's your excuse?
Sure sounds like your showing off. Anyway if you weren't so new you would have a Lang-8 and be doing this shit daily from day 1 anyway.

[Anonymous No.]

>tfw Japanese is easy but assimilating the thousands of vocabulary words just takes a lot of time

Meh

[Anonymous No.]

>>20106422
>>tfw Japanese is easy but assimilating the thousands of vocabulary words just takes a lot of time
The vocabulary is the easy part. At a moderate 20 words per day, you can blaze through core2k in a few months.

>>20106419
You're right dude, I was showing off. That makes all of my points incorrect and everything you said automatically correct. Because that's how arguing works.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20106429
What is your "point"? The only things I've seen is you showing off and you stating the obvious that everyone already knew as if you were some messiah who came to bring us out of the dark ages.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20106400
for starters opening a book or cartoon would be a solid improvement

when you are chatting with natives they will maintain your level of language because they're not interested in raising a communication barrier, so you are essentially sloshing around in the mud and not learning a whole lot

don't rely on them making corrections to everything you screw up either, it'll just be major things at best

for instance this is immediately at fault for being a gaijin sentence:
>変態じゃないですか？これを説明する
but i don't see anybody correcting you on it, because why would they? it just breaks the 空気 and you won't get the explanation anyway because you haven't watched your 10000 hours of anime

as for questions all of them have been answered by natives on google :-)

[Anonymous No.]

>>20106438
This, I constantly say shit like ごつ instead of いつつ and nobody corrects me because nobody wants to be that guy or take the time, unless it's some place like Lang-8 where the entire purpose of the site is to correct each other.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20104468
Another positive: it doesn't suffer from that bug Yomichan and RikaiRebuilt have where they falsely reports the passive conjugation for godan verbs ("u verbs") ending in る as "potential or passive" (Yomichan is even worse in that it reports the passive conjugation for す-ending ones as "passive or causative" and can't even read the actual causative conjugation for them).

Another negative: it doesn't seem to detect when a line of text is too close to the bottom of the window for the pop-up to be fully displayed so instead of the pop-up going above the word in question in that event pic related happens. It would seem the dev is aware of this issue as the "Reader" window (clipboard inserter page) has new text appear at the top of the window instead of the bottom, most likely to counteract this problem (that being the case, I hope it will be fixed in the not too distant future).

[Anonymous No.]

>>20106429
>At a moderate 20 words per day, you can blaze through core2k in a few months.

1) 2k words is a joke
2) premade decks are a joke
3) you're a joke, don't @ me

[Anonymous No.]

If you learn 食べる and memorize Tae Kim's grammar guide, you already know like 100 words from just 食べる's conjugations.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20106249
Why isn't this reddit-tier garbage banned on the spot

[Anonymous No.]

mina saikou arigato kkkawaii

[Anonymous No.]

genki?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20106640
jyanai

[Anonymous No.]

Keep studying Nuke, I believe in you!

[Anonymous No.]

Nuke please include me in your next video, you didn't deserve the disrespect yogapants gave you desu.

[Anonymous No.]

Anyone have fourth volume 火傷少女?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20106745
i'm sure nuke will contact you directly anon. dumbass.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20106772
Fuck off, Yogapants

[Anonymous No.]

>>20106772
Fuck off, toilet hair. Your 1990s emo rendition of Hitler's combover isn't fooling anyone. Your hairline is even worse than Matt's.

[Anonymous No.]

>computer broke
>last anki sync was weeks ago

[Anonymous No.]

>>20106822
now you're finally free brother

[Anonymous No.]

>>20099564
lmao

[Anonymous No.]

あきのフルーツといえば？

[Anonymous No.]

yakiimo

[Anonymous No.]

バナナとかじゃね

[Anonymous No.]

読書

[Anonymous No.]

>>20106914
>やきいも

フルーツだってば

[Anonymous No.]

柿の話はもうしたでしょ

[Anonymous No.]

緑な恐竜、読書の時だぜー！

[Anonymous No.]

https://twitter.com/mattvsjapan/status/1053034919998312448
How do you construe this statement, /djt/?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20107098
>Plz don't DM me with questions; if you want to talk to me: [patreon link]
How big of an ego does this guy have? Does he really expect people to pay him $10 just to ask him a question? Actually, he apparently hardly even uses his Discord so I guess you need to pay him $20 instead (for 30 minutes LOL), or even...
>$100 or more per month
>Skype with me for an 60-90 minutes each month!
Fucking $100 for a casual, hour-long conversation. So much for his buddhist meditation bullshit freeing him of worldly desires or whatever.

And the worst part is there are actually morons out there who pay him and fuel his delusions of grandeur.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20107098
He clearly doesn't understand how torrents work

[Anonymous No.]

has anyone ever been able to get fcitx-mozc to work properly?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20106942
あたし

かき

きらい

[Anonymous No.]

girl you is so 良い

[Anonymous No.]

watasi ni ha makku chikin da

[Anonymous No.]

>>20107166
>B-But I put in A LOT OF TIME for each of my videos to bring you the best! I know that I make mistakes but I have to put out the videos anyway so people can correct me so I can make another video with the correct answer so we all learn!
If you want to continue this conversation please pay me $10.

[Anonymous No.]

matt is based and redpilled
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TgRte6oSoF8

[Anonymous No.]

Reminder that as long as you cling to these ecelebs you will never learn Japanese

[Anonymous No.]

>>20107497
>tfw did wanikani all the way to level 60

[yung jamal or w/e !K/1sx/RVXY No.]

holy shit l( . ) ( . )k at these

[Anonymous No.]

>>20107603
たれてんじゃん

どうやったら

たれるほどおおきくなりますか

[yung jamal or w/e !K/1sx/RVXY No.]

お前はそのままでいい

[Anonymous No.]

>>20104760
>>20104917
Is there a way to use the NHK epwing for anki, without adding the information manually?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20106400
>I actually cannot think of a better way to learn than talking to people who speak natively
lol why do so many of you dipshit redditors end up here? Go read more dude.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20106477
The lack of word highlighting makes it annoying to keep track of what you're looking at, plus it lacks audio and has the same problems the other non-yomichan dictionaries have which is that you can't scroll through definitions. I like that it's fast though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20107098
>animus
i knew you were an anon cuz of the tweet you sent dogen

[Anonymous No.]

why is anki bad now?

[yung jamal or w/e !K/1sx/RVXY No.]

its not bad in the hands of the capable

[Anonymous No.]

>>20107497
actually he was so incredibly wrong about RTK that his drones are deleting their RTK decks after finishing RTK:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b3By86GF58Y
https://twitter.com/mattvsjapan/status/1052701018088042496

now he's making the same mistake by insisting that people put off reading for an entire year so that their accent is perfect, but his drones are getting antsy because they'd like to start reading now. that includes the drone i linked and another drone on twitter who finally started reading manga after crying about how badly he wants to read but has to stick to **** sama's timeline to get that perfect accent.

[yung jamal or w/e !K/1sx/RVXY No.]

delivery is the way of the world

if you convince someone youre serious theyll believe it

conversely if you dont act serious no one will take you serious

for there to be a shepherd there must be sheep ┐(‘～` )┌

[Anonymous No.]

do you learn all the common words that contain the letter F after the ones that don't like how RTK introduces radicals in such a fucked up way?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20107834
I'm 3 minutes in and he's just talking about meditation and back pain. What does this have to do with learning Japanese?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20107834
30 seconds in
>so there's one thing I want to get out of the way: I haven't done any mediting in the last 1-2 weeks or so
So THAT'S the power of m*tt drones

[Anonymous No.]

>>20107968
Also his tooth hurts

[yung jamal or w/e !K/1sx/RVXY No.]

oh look another long vid about a neck beard that isnt learning japanese looks epic

[Anonymous No.]

>allotted reading time where you read as much as possible, skipping sentences which are too difficult
>allotted review time where you take a second look at sentences you didn't understand but think you could understand with a bit of searching
Is this the most POWERFUL way to level up?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20108071
no just read more

[Anonymous No.]

>>20108071
take out the second step and yes

[Anonymous No.]

>>20107981
make sure to get a lot of clips and upload them to streamable.

[yung jamal or w/e !K/1sx/RVXY No.]

if youre skipping big chunks try reading something where you dont have to do that? or you know just watch 10000 hours of epic english subbed anime to ensure you dont have to do that

[Anonymous No.]

>>20108071
The space between seeing the difficult sentence and researching it definitely helps, but I would actually lightly research a sentence I don't understand, let my sub-conscious mess with it for awhile, then come back to it later to see if my sub-conscious figured anything out. If not and I still cant understand it, I just forget about it until I see it again somewhere.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20108079
>>20108081
But think about how much more stuff you'll be able to comprehend if you level up and unlock a new grammar point.

[Anonymous No.]

>>>/a/179670350


is he right

[Anonymous No.]

>>20108089
you do that by reading

[yung jamal or w/e !K/1sx/RVXY No.]

>>20108094
in the case of anime try using your ears and eyes to pick up that point?? idk just a thought

[yung jamal or w/e !K/1sx/RVXY No.]

>>20108084
nothign to nipah about after seeking thru it for about a minute so this will have 2 do

[Anonymous No.]

>>20108094
Imagine being so stupid, uninformed and American that you put off learning a language because it has more than a single accent/dialect

[Anonymous No.]

I just watched JFZ George attempting to read a VN, and fuck me this guy does not know Japanese

pretty much every other Kanji compound word he can't read, even pretty basic ones. How does he stand the embarrassment of streaming this shit and then calling himself a Japanese teacher

[Anonymous No.]

>>20108236
Watching that is even worse than streaming it. Could you read the same VN?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20107981
Dude just needs to meditate more, you too 邪魔る先輩

[Anonymous No.]

>>20108236
get out matt

[Anonymous No.]

>>20108133
Don't have to imagine it, this is literally the American mindset towards language learning, except people put it off because "everyone else is just gonna learn English anyway"

[Anonymous No.]

>>20099476
So i just finished reading the light novel serie i was reading, now i hesitate beetween reading three: Danmachi, No game no life and arifureta.
Which one should i read first? No game no life seems a little too complicated, danmachi a little too boring (i'm searching something rather on the adventure side since i was reading a slice of life) and apparently arifureta gets shitty with the harem after volume 1, except i love harem.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20108263
Read the one you'll like the most, which by the sounds of it would be No Game No Life. It's also the one I would pick.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20108239
I didn't watch the whole thing, I was just curious how his reading was because he said he'd never read a book in his life

And it's about as bad as you'd expect

[Anonymous No.]

>>20108236
Link? Can't find the video.

[Anonymous No.]

I'd like to read something with less exposition and a lot of dialogue. Any suggestions? I'm not saying it has to be easy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20108282
https://youtu.be/nUxDNaU_j6M

[yung jamal or w/e !K/1sx/RVXY No.]

>>20108284
have you tried manga ?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20108284
宝くじで４０億当たったんだけど異世界に移住する

[Anonymous No.]

why is no game no life even popular

I watched the anime and it was incredibly trash

[Anonymous No.]

it was fun

[Anonymous No.]

>>20108297
What did you hate the most about this show?
Maybe you just don't like isekais which is fine.

[yung jamal or w/e !K/1sx/RVXY No.]

>>20108285
lmao and like magic i can seek to the absolute best part of this one instantly

https://streamable.com/jpavk

[Anonymous No.]

>>20108236
>>20108285
>https://youtu.be/nUxDNaU_j6M

Uhm? It's all voiced, he didn't have to read anything. Is this how you guys "read" VNs?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20108292
I'm wondering where the epub files in the library are from. From what I'm seeing there don't seem to be official digital releases. Also the case for some other works. Are these done by OCR?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20108308
I don't know what isekai implies but if it's shitty romance harem trash I guess I don't.

[yung jamal or w/e !K/1sx/RVXY No.]

>>20108334
isekai in japanese means "shit"

basically rezero guy is saying well if you dont like shit like i do then thats cool too

[Anonymous No.]

>>20108297
The movie was pretty good, went to see it in an actual cinema expecting nothing but it blew me away.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20108334
So you don't like harem, well that's fine as well.
And the fuck you don't know what isekai is? Do you live in some kind of cave?

[yung jamal or w/e !K/1sx/RVXY No.]

you cant blame him even i have trouble keeping up with what the teenagers like

[Anonymous No.]

yeet on them

[Anonymous No.]

average time guys in japan masturbate per week

[Anonymous No.]

>>20108397
Was that self reported or actually measured?
Because people often exaggerate in self reports.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20108411
You are really dumb.

[Anonymous No.]

So, any reason to use Google's IME instead of the MS IME on Windows 10 (w/ October's update)?
Also, I've noticed that if I have language input set to MSIME when I play Metro Redux games (both 2033 and LL) my FPS in menus and in-game when there's a button prompt on screen drops to 15-20. Switching language input to anything else instantly fixes this issue but it's a weird bug.
>>20108334
>I don't know what isekai implies
https://jisho.org/search/isekai

[Anonymous No.]

>>20108428
you winbabbs are beyond salvation.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20108428
I use the google one because it lets me keep my keyboard layout (QWERTZ) and doesn't force the Japanese one.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20108479
what's good my fellow germanic poster

[Anonymous No.]

>>20108285
why does he not know 漂う ?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20108271
Thanks but finnaly i think i will go with arifureta since after reading some pages it seems rather easy compared to what i'm used to.
Once i finish it, or once it gets shitty as some are saying it gets, i'll read no game no life.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20108504
I might be germanic in flesh, but I'm trans-japanese in mind.
I ate rice with umeboshi, natto and seaweed earlier. My weeb levels are growing stronger every day.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20108548
>光輝
>キラキラ
>輝いて

>俺の表情

[Anonymous No.]

>>20108552
i feel you

truly the most potent combination, other anons can't compare

[Anonymous No.]

>>20108583
I'd like to stay and chat a little longer, but cute anime girls demand my attention.
I hope you can understand.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20108578
光輝 is a name in this context.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20102533
>>20107834
Manga isn't reading.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20108548
Yoshi, post whatever page you're currently reading.

[Anonymous No.]

is anyone worried about turning gay because of japanese? I used to be mainly into edgy stuff like berserk and junji ito but ever since I started learning japanese I increasingly find myself drawn to moeshit and kinda suspect LNs

[yung jamal or w/e !K/1sx/RVXY No.]

>>20108719

>>20108724
do you wish you were the girl in the pornos ?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20108719

[Anonymous No.]

>>20108724
It was supposed to be a meme.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20108719
Did you read my post? I wasn't even reading it yet, but whatever. Pic related a visual novel i'm currently playing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20108732
low-key yes

what about you jamal

[yung jamal or w/e !K/1sx/RVXY No.]

>>20108766
hell yea

[Anonymous No.]

>>20108724
>turning gay
Not possible, no need to worry.
Being gay is not a choice, you can't influence whether someone is or isn't gay.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20108774
you're a real one jamal

[Anonymous No.]

>>20108791
I'm turning gay now just to spite your dumb ass haha!

[Anonymous No.]

How quickly can I become proficient in reading the アイドル-twitter?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20108839
idk man start reading it and report your findings

[Anonymous No.]

>>20108802
https://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1540139758452.webm

[Anonymous No.]

>>20108858
why is there so many staccato in her sentence

[Anonymous No.]

>>20108719
空間、そして時間。
　それらのいずれとも、彼女は乖離していた。
　当然ではあるけれど、そのことに最初に気づいたのは、彼女自身だった。この僕に、おそらく誰よりもさきに、それを教えてくれたのだ。

[yung jamal or w/e !K/1sx/RVXY No.]

>>20108765
man that game looks visually terrible

[Anonymous No.]

>交流
>interaction, contact
What's wrong with 6k deck?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20108893
terrible in which sense? The good or the bad one?

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>20108894
there's nothing wrong with it

[Anonymous No.]

>>20108915
oh sweetie...

[Anonymous No.]

Is your body ready for vol 8? It's out on the 25th

[yung jamal or w/e !K/1sx/RVXY No.]

>>20108898
i mean the chara doll looks bad but the cg art would kill my immersion every time

[Anonymous No.]

>>20108947
those tits look misplaced desu
too low

[Anonymous No.]

>>20108976
>he doesn't like low hangers

[yung jamal or w/e !K/1sx/RVXY No.]

>>20108979
low hangers are whatever its more just her tits are retarded she should take a lesson from someone with a more refined rack >>20107603

[Anonymous No.]

>>20108979
I don't mean like national geographic low-swingers
It looks like they're attached to the bottom of her rib cage

[Anonymous No.]

Is it worth learning this language for boat slut doujins?

[yung jamal or w/e !K/1sx/RVXY No.]

>>20108988
its more like they arent even tits and she just has a incredibly fucked up muffin top ┐(‘～` )┌

[Anonymous No.]

I'm gonna put some beef on the stove and then watch an episode of DxD to finish up my listening practice today.

[yung jamal or w/e !K/1sx/RVXY No.]

>>20108993
yes https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y2e1Nc41Jmw

[Anonymous No.]

Why is it so fucking hard for me to memorize vocabulary?
I tried using the Core 6K deck and I barely ever remember the words the next day. How do you guys do 30 cards a day? I can't do 15.

[yung jamal or w/e !K/1sx/RVXY No.]

>>20109003
you should be donig it because anime owns and u love it not to do "listening practice"

[Anonymous No.]

>>20109013
No, I'm just doing it for listening practice. Enjoyment won't come for a long time.
>>20109009
Are you reading? They reinforce one another.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20109018
I do read but not every word in a 6K deck is going to appear in what I read even if I read five hours a day.
Especially when the 6K deck doesn't show you words in order of frequency but randomly.

[yung jamal or w/e !K/1sx/RVXY No.]

>>20109018
if u aint lovin it now u aint ever gonna love it

print this post and put it on your wall

[Anonymous No.]

>>20109009
In order to memorize, you must first understand.
Core 6K just throws random words at you and leaves out the understanding phase.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20109026
I know. There will be words you just won't remember for awhile until they show up in what you read. It's normal.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20107396
>>20107166
It's because people are begging to talk to him. All of his patreon levels with limits are already maxed out

[Anonymous No.]

>>20109030
I mean each word has an example sentence and native voice recording, it's not that I don't understand it in a context.

>>20109034
So my reviews will pile up to the hundreds?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20107834
>insisting that people put off reading for an entire year

No he's not. He literally said most people should have a 50/50 split. It just depends on your long term goals

[Anonymous No.]

>>20109040
So long as you're a dumbass who thinks he should keep doing new words even though his reviews are piling up that high, then yep. And considering you're even asking the question I think that describes you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20109043
he claims that most people should split it but he frames his advice in such a way that your long term goal should be native accent, and if it's not then you're not really giving it your all. that's why dumbasses like japancode were striving for it. they bought into his nonsense at their own detriment.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20109045
Anki has an option to only do reviews and not new words?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20109060
>being mad some people want perfect accents
>being mad that Matt explicitly said most people should do 50/50

why you so mad white boi?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20109065
you just manually set new words to zero

[Anonymous No.]

>>20109065
You don't have to set new cards to 0. There is a global Anki setting that makes review cards appear before new cards always.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20109026
>play shit
>read shit
>watch shit
>remember the times when you saw and heard words

Gotta replace those dumb RTK mnemonics with actual memories my dude, you'll never remember 沼地 until you've seen one, never remember キラキラ until you've seen something sparkle, never remember 下りる until you've done it and seen the action unfold before you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20109004
should I mine アヒル?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20104894
Unfortunately doesn't work for some games, like splatoon and xenoblade.

You should confirm the languages included with the game in the eshop to be safe.

[yung jamal or w/e !K/1sx/RVXY No.]

>>20109119
you should fuck one

[Anonymous No.]

>>20109119
I mined it from ranma 1/2.

[Anonymous No.]

There are a crapton of LNs free to read today on bookwalker, does anyone knows a way to download them? We should preserve them.

https://bookwalker.jp/tag/2912/?order=title&np=1

[Anonymous No.]

>>20109118
You'll never remember 尺八 until you experience it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20109118
I never used RTK, I'm using WaniKani and Kanji Garden. Knowing the kanji in a new word really helps though so maybe I just need a few hundred more kanji down?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20109119
You have to look at your source and ask yourself if you want to be like them. So of course you should.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20109074
learn to read. they don't want perfect accents which is they're giving up on matt's shitty advice.

[Anonymous No.]

You'll never remember ゲイ until you become it

[Anonymous No.]

>>20109095
then if you flunk any of your reviews the relearning gets mixed in with your new cards which is really bad

[Anonymous No.]

>>20109163
甘城ブリリアントパーク seems to be the only one worth something.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20109196
If you flunk then who the fuck cares, that card is already fucked

[Anonymous No.]

>>20109213
yeah no

[Anonymous No.]

>>20109196
>which is really bad
go fuck yourself

[Anonymous No.]

>>20109186
>matt's shitty advice
>matt's advice is 50/50 split

white boi is triggered af

[Anonymous No.]

Should I mine a word if I know it's meaning but not the reading? Adding it will make me remember the reading

[Anonymous No.]

>>20109234
have fun with your -0.5% leech retention

[Anonymous No.]

>>20109083
Yea I adjust this everyday before I start depending on how well I did the day before. I start my deck off at 100 new cards, then 50, then 40 for a week or so and now I"m doing 20 new cards and reviewing about 300 cards a day. It's taking almost 3 hours which is a little more than I like but I'm at about 75% retention so not too bad.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20109256
Depends on the word.
If it's rare you won't have to bother with it ever again.
If it's common you'll learn the reading even without mining.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20109213
read the fucking conversation
>So long as you're a dumbass who thinks he should keep doing new words even though his reviews are piling up that high,

[Anonymous No.]

>>20109273
the scarey thing is that matt says he still mines at least 20 new words a day for 8+ years.. so theres that to look forward to if you plan on being any good.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20109275
Have you never used the setting? It won't mix reviews and new cards. Assuming shit is actually piled up you will go over the relearning cards before new cards too (or you can just wait ten minutes to make sure)

[Anonymous No.]

>>20109286
*a** deleted his anki deck after realizing he was wrong. he sure is wrong a lot.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20109286
I seriously doubt it was 20 per day when he stopped doing Anki. Anyway, he was reading fucking books from the 1800s so it's kind of an extreme case

[Anonymous No.]

>>20109298
he thinks in absolutes too much, he needs more meditation

[Anonymous No.]

>>20109290
think about what you are saying before you say it

[Anonymous No.]

1: leeches
2: normal cards you flunk that just happened to be at the end of the review queue

[Anonymous No.]

>>20109290
This line of conversation is Literally about Not Doing New Cards At All.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20109267
You'd do better giving yourself a time limit for each rep. 10s would do for now.
>>20109286
8x365x20=58400
Sorry but I don't believe he's actually mining those if it's even true that he's adding that much.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20109286
>so theres that to look forward to if you plan on being any good
What if I don't use anki?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20109333
Yea I think you're right.. I'll drop it to 10 and see if I can't get some efficiency back

[Anonymous No.]

>>20109313
You first

>>20109332
No shit, you just stop before getting to the new cards i.e. have no reviews left

[Anonymous No.]

>>20109256
That's how you should use anki.

[Anonymous No.]

why does the order of the review queue matter whatsoever in the slightest again?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20109394
yeah you still have relearn queue cards when you get to the new cards dude

[Anonymous No.]

>>20109401
because anon told anon to not do new cards and anon said to change the queue's ordering instead of disabling new cards

[Anonymous No.]

What's the easiest way to add cards to a mining deck?

[yung jamal or w/e !K/1sx/RVXY No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>20108321
> I'm wondering where the epub files in the library are from. From what I'm seeing there don't seem to be official digital releases.

That book in the library is an official digital release and can be purchased from multiple ebook oulets, including Amazon, ebookjapan, bookwalker, etc.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20109410
what medium are you mining

[Anonymous No.]

>>20109403
Not necessarily, you can just wait 10 minutes (though assuming your review backlog is huge they may just come up while doing reviews)

[Anonymous No.]

>>20109455
Anon, again, this conversation is literally about not doing new cards at all, period. There is no "wait ten minutes".

It's okay to be wrong.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20109455
>>20109325

[Anonymous No.]

>>20109466
Wat, I've been doing the thing I've been describing for a year and I've never had to do new cards

[Anonymous No.]

by the way that's not how the learn ahead limit is programmed

[Anonymous No.]

>>20109501
That's because you waste time instead of just setting new cards to zero, or you do a ridiculously small amount of cards.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20109511
Wrong and wrong.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20109511
I mean yeah they would be doing a really small number of cards if they're never adding new cards :)
i.e their story is bullshit and they're leaving something out

[Anonymous No.]

>>20109521
I did new cards at night retard. I liked to do reviews in the morning and new cards at night

[Anonymous No.]

>>20109520
Post your stats.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20109531
and that's why you don't have any problems with the relearning queue

[Anonymous No.]

>>20107497
is kklc really that bad? isn't it just rtk with readings?

[Anonymous No.]

ankidrones 出て行ってください

[Anonymous No.]

>>20109547
matt literally doesn't understand what isolated kanji study is for so he doesn't understand what kklc does differently from rtk in any lens other than that with which his terrible kanji learning method - which he has abandoned by the way - praises rtk

[Anonymous No.]

>>20109547
in other words no kklc is different in ways other than just having readings. for one, the ordering was obviously educated by a basic understanding of Japanese vocabulary, and the key words aren't random useless bullshit

[Anonymous No.]

>>20109555
He didn't abandon it, he just moved it

[Anonymous No.]

>>20109561
the whole point was about "when" the entire time.

[yung jamal or w/e !K/1sx/RVXY No.]

>>20109552
its ok just let em get it out theyve done good to 我慢する for this long theyve earned a little release time

[Anonymous No.]

ankidrones 中出し

[Anonymous No.]

I'm not even an ankidrone I just know their bullshit better than they do

[Anonymous No.]

>>20109568
Nope, sorry pea brain

[Anonymous No.]

>>20109582
wow so the idiot who doesn't understand how "anne kee" works is also a dumb Matt drone I'm Amazed!

[Anonymous No.]

>>20109582
His entire video revolves around doing kanji study before anything else. The entire philosophy is invalid if that criteria is gone, which it is.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20109580
intravaginal ejaculation? wut?

[Anonymous No.]

Anki is useless once you enjoy media, and if you never force japanese input it will never become enjoyable. So it is best to never use anki as it encourages less use of native material.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aENRHKKWQwc

[Anonymous No.]

is there an auto paste extension for chrome? using firefox just for this.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20109591
He still recommends doing kanji study before Japanese. The only thing he changed is now he only recommends you learn how to write kanji after learning Japanese. You fucking retard, just leave

[Anonymous No.]

Reminder that it isn't about low rep or high rep. It's not even about the amount of volume.
What matters is:
MAXIMUM
RECOVERABLE
VOLUME

[Anonymous No.]

wanikani is good

[Anonymous No.]

>>20109596
兄貴の暗記の喜び

[Anonymous No.]

>>20109599
No, the entire methodology for learning kanji early on is different, even Matt knows this and recommends different methodology now. Lazy kanji is not just not learning to write, the way that you structure the information that you're learning is different.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20109597
Anki should be used on the side, as it helps you remember.
It's not because some morons misuse it and think they can learn the language through it that you shouldn't use it at all. The same goes for textbook.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20109599
rtk's ordering and shitty keywords are literally useless if you're not learning to write

[yung jamal or w/e !K/1sx/RVXY No.]

>>20109614
you seem to not understand that time is finite

there is no "on the side" if youre doing it right

[Anonymous No.]

>>20109613
Yes retard, you now do a different type of isolated kanji study first. Then you do the other type later. Good retard, you get a treat now *unzips dick*

[Anonymous No.]

>>20109625
You're terrible at this. You can't even stay on the same topic for more than three posts.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20109617
Nope, since ordering builds upon itself new kanji are made of combinations of old kanji you recognize which makes it easier.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20109614
No, I don't use anki and my vocab is stronger than yours, thus anki sucks. I genuinely hate anki and get ptsd any time I see the interface or here it being talked about.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20109635
okay please defend that 人 is basically at the very end then spoiler you can't

[Anonymous No.]

>>20109597
Until media becomes enjoyable you should use anki so that you learn certain concepts more quickly. There are grammar points and phrases that I repeatedly come across but I still forget their function. Anki would help me remember them. Anki has helped me remember some.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20109624
my anki reps take around 25 minutes a day and i do them a few minutes at a time throughout the day at times when reading wouldn't be practical

i guess "read instead" is good advice for NEETs though

[Anonymous No.]

>>20109645
if media isn't in some way basically enjoyable at Ground Zero you don't have a reason to learn Japanese

[Anonymous No.]

>>20109645
I used to think like you. In like a year you will be more like me in your world view. I am just trying to warn you about how horrible anki is. Just read epic content and watch epic anime. See easy, no anxiety required.

[yung jamal or w/e !K/1sx/RVXY No.]

if its not epic dont waste your precious finite time on it ftw

[Anonymous No.]

this thread is ass thanks to anki shitposters, please die

[Anonymous No.]

>>20109656
In a year I'll probably have the same view since I'm not going to forget that anki helped me reach the point where I can like media.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20109624
You can learn a language from cratches but you'll never do it as fast as if you were to learn the basics first. The 2-3000 words are fucking everywhere but if you try to learn them only through text it wil take you a huge amount of time as you'll have to battle first through far less common words.

>>20109637

>my vocab is stronger than yours
What makes you say so?

I read a lot as well, most words i know i learnd them through reading and listening but i would never say something like anki is useless.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20109653

if you enjoy spending one hour reading a page of yotsuba because you literally have to look up every word then you might actually be autistic

[yung jamal or w/e !K/1sx/RVXY No.]

>>20109669
you dont learn the basics from flashcards period

[Anonymous No.]

>>20109672
Manga isn't reading buddy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20109672
This is why I first watched 10000 hours of anime and then taught myself the kana.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20109672
If you're wasting an hour reading a page of yotsuba instead of just skipping to the parts you can understand it's your own fault you don't enjoy it

[Anonymous No.]

>>20109672
guess this means if youre not autistic you cant learn japanese

[Anonymous No.]

>>20109452
Physical manga mostly for now

[Anonymous No.]

it's the 3k words from core moron, ignore them

[Anonymous No.]

>>20109672
here's a list of options read something else skip things you don't understand only look things up for like 30 seconds and then give up if you can't figure them out read something else watch anime read something else skip more stuff read something else did I say read something else yet

[Anonymous No.]

Anyone else struggling to pronounce the japanese r properly?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20109675
Then how do you learn them? Even both genki don't cover that much vocabulary even though people reccomend to spend at the very least 6 months on them. Anki helps you learning that much way faster and helps you not forget them.

It has already been proven, you have a 70% retention rate through reading and a 90% retention rate through anki.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20109689
If you skip to the parts you can read you're not learning anything new

[Anonymous No.]

Wait people don't like yotsubato?

I enjoyed it a lot back when I ate it.

https://news.avclub.com/this-woman-has-been-slowly-eating-infinite-jest-for-a-y-1798263030

[Anonymous No.]

>>20109716
Whispers
by reading

[Anonymous No.]

>>20109716
>It has already been proven, you have a 70% retention rate through reading and a 90% retention rate through anki.
dude anki helps but wtf are you talking about

[Anonymous No.]

>>20109719
there is always something to learn from any random piece of text you come across unless you are at the level of an advanced native academic reader

[yung jamal or w/e !K/1sx/RVXY No.]

>>20109715
just use l sound and dont worry about it youll always sound cool

[Anonymous No.]

>>20109722
they're just pulling things out of their ass and hoping that people take them at face value

[Anonymous No.]

Why is Matt so retarded over KKLC? It's just a RTK+

[Anonymous No.]

>>20109721
I know this is probably a meme but people who read stop and look stuff up right? Otherwise I can't imagine how else you'd learn new words

[Anonymous No.]

>>20109727
If you don't know and you cannot look it up you will not learn, is what I'm saying. If an unknown kanji is staring you in the face you can't learn it from context alone.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20109707
And then you'll never learn Japanese, because she skipped almost everything.

>>20109715
Yes, especially some words like 資料館. The way I do it, is to listen to recording of natives and try to mimic that sound. Also listening to 10000 hours of anime helps, but not for all words.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20109719
You learn by inferring things from what you don't understand

[yung jamal or w/e !K/1sx/RVXY No.]

this can all be solved with 10000 hours of english subbed anime

[Anonymous No.]

>>20109737
I guess I'll just listen more before trying to speak.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20109734
okay Little Johnny I'll let you in on a little secret
you look up things that you think you have to learn because you don't know them
you don't look up things that you sort of recognize and think that you know because you think that you know them
and if you don't know a single goddamn thing you're reading than either you literally don't know anything at all or you're reading something that's too hard for you
there is an ideal amount of looking things up and that amount is actually really low because so much can be gleaned from context
now as for learning the readings of words that's a completely different problem but that shouldn't get in the way of the other 95% of learning Japanese

[Anonymous No.]

>>20109765
>now as for learning the readings of words that's a completely different problem but that shouldn't get in the way of the other 95% of learning Japanese
lol wut knowing the reading for words is a lot more than 5% of japanese, you can't speak or listen at all if you don't know how the characters are read

[Anonymous No.]

You're just downloading the zip file using anki, but thats only one step towards the install. It efficiently gets the info into your head but it's up to you to install it the rest of the way or it will just get moved to the trash bin.

[Anonymous No.]

Today I mined:
窺う
仲睦まじい
為す術もなく
介抱
埒
満を持す

And by mining I mean leaving the dictionary browser tabs open until tomorrow to test myself because I don't use anki.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20109785
you're a beginner

[Anonymous No.]

>>20109763
Just do anki and listen for 6 months. Ignore any other suggestions. Reading early will fuck you up.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20109802
anki is boring

[Anonymous No.]

>>20109802
Fuck you up how?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20109795
I'm really not, but if someone is reading, sees 橋 and infers from context that it means bridge, but doesn't bother to learn how to read it and hears someone talking about bridges later that guy is going to be confused as fuck.

[yung jamal or w/e !K/1sx/RVXY No.]

>>20102762

[Anonymous No.]

>>20109810
you really are a beginner if that's the example that you come up with
learning to remember how words are pronounced when you see them in kanji is a different skill

[yung jamal or w/e !K/1sx/RVXY No.]

>>20109809
reading early will make you hate reading and youll stop 100%確実

as long as you watch anime for 6 months idc about the flashtard part

[Anonymous No.]

>>20109809
When you read you're speaking in your head and since you don't really know the language yet you're building up a bunch of slight fuck ups that are hard to correct later. You don't want to touch a book for at least 6-12 months.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20109831
everything you just said can be corrected by listening at the same time as you read

and even then there's no proof or evidence that it is hard to correct if you actually care

[Anonymous No.]

>>20109831
Unless somebody is a retarded outsider who never watched anime in their life it shouldn't be a problem at all. Outsiders deserve to get fucked up.

[yung jamal or w/e !K/1sx/RVXY No.]

>>20109831
i think most people that come here have at least 6 months worth of familiarity tho but i cant actually speak from the knowledge of someone who tried to read in japanese when they dont have a grasp on sounds and flow yet

hopefully u can find some epic fail tard to vet your post but im pretty sure what happens is they find what they are doing really gay and quit

[Anonymous No.]

よし
はなひら時間だよ

[Anonymous No.]

>>20109848
This

[Anonymous No.]

>>20109841
True, but you would have to find parallel audio of eveything you read but there are plenty of people like even マット who said it fucked him up. Language is a hard thing to have proof on, but we do have anecdotals from experienced people.

[yung jamal or w/e !K/1sx/RVXY No.]

>>20109850
if ur referring to the popular in djt yet maybe 1 or 2 people actually get it visual game はなひらっ its important to have the っ

[Anonymous No.]

>>20109831
>When you read you're speaking in your head
Not necessarily.
Deaf people don't for example, and you're gonna be reading at a snails pace if you voice everything in your head.

If you ever wanna get good at reading you have to stop the voices.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20109852
or you could just read visual novels

[Anonymous No.]

>>20109849
I'm pretty sure everyone who comes to these threads is at the very least familiar with the language to some extent though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20109880
I've never been able to understand without subvocalizing.. if you got some tips that would be cool.

[yung jamal or w/e !K/1sx/RVXY No.]

>>20109880
r u kidding me narrating in your head is half the fun of reading

what kind of suck ass monochrome existence must it be to not read with voice

if i ever go deaf and finally complete the trifecta with dumb and blind u better believe im still gonna be internally narrating for epic win in the soundless void

[Anonymous No.]

>>20109911
this tripfag is blind?
I want to imagine a black NEET sitting in his room using TTS to hear 4chan shitposts

[Anonymous No.]

>>20109870
たしかに「っ」がある
気づかなかった

[yung jamal or w/e !K/1sx/RVXY No.]

no im the eyes still work but i still bump into things like moe anime girl blind

[Anonymous No.]

Chapter 3 of goblin slayer and i can't understand what the old geezer is saying

[yung jamal or w/e !K/1sx/RVXY No.]

straight up ドジっ子 shit kinda blind

[Anonymous No.]

>>20109904
>if you got some tips that would be cool.
Meditate. Learn to shut your inner voice up before it randomly starts spouting crap.
You gotta fill yourself with void.

>>20109911
That only applies to people born deaf of course.
You'd still have all the memories of how speech sounds.

[Anonymous No.]

Ok I see the problem.

So by proof of induction, If you can get to the basic level of japanese to enjoy easy material, and you can slowly progress to more difficult material you can reach complete fluency.

There then in lies 2 problems

1. Some people genuinely do not enjoy japanese and only want to learn japanese for travel or other superficial reasons, this makes it near impossible to progress the necessary amount.

2. People struggle getting to that initial point of enjoying easy material. They then fall for traps like ajatt and leddit. The solution is to understand the process and realize time solves all issues. If you are not at that initial point yet just try to find the small points of enjoyment in the process and harp on them until you finally reach the laddering progress of learning.

I don't know why I tried to make an intelligent post on this board, but if you take away anything then that should be to only spend your time doing things you enjoy and learning japanese is incredibly enjoyable for me and should be for you no mater how advanced. It does not need to be difficult.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20109952
>You gotta fill yourself with void.
yea but you still understand whats going on with nothing happening on a concious level?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20109962
>by proof of induction
what proof?

[Anonymous No.]

>relistening to audio and rereading the same script to try to hear what's happening
Sigh.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20109974
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mathematical_induction

[yung jamal or w/e !K/1sx/RVXY No.]

imagining a guy reading a hentai game and pressing the voice replay button over and over during a sex scene so he can work on his pitch accent

[Anonymous No.]

>>20109995
ok but where's your proof?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20109962
>traps like ajatt
The trap of fluency?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3qWqIo1FR-8
https://youtu.be/vrAyDf7jzdw
https://youtu.be/gXBgK4a3FWQ
http://massimmersionapproach.com/table-of-contents/success-stories/nick/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NYb5o2lewkY

[Anonymous No.]

>>20109963
You are conscious, but your automatic brain isn't.
When you read you aren't consciously voicing stuff, you only react to those voices. You want to eliminate the middle man.

Look at this pic, you don't have to think at all, you know at a glance it's a human face and it's obama.
Why shouldn't you be able to do the same thing with all symbols?

[yung jamal or w/e !K/1sx/RVXY No.]

>>20109962
hey it looks like you wrote a lot of really smart words there (youre so smart!) but while i didnt personally read all of them i agree that all you gotta do is go out and play with japanese

your learning will be as natural yet strange as the first time you jacked off

[Anonymous No.]

>>20110010
https://youtu.be/lVD0uLgtLOo?t=10
N1 after 2 years of AJATT....fucking EZ.

[yung jamal or w/e !K/1sx/RVXY No.]

rage quit at "onky"

every last one of these fail fuckers says it

[Anonymous No.]

>>20110035
is that supposed to be a joke?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20110003
n = yotsubato

From any given n you can progress to a slightly more difficult material. This is true as this is literally the only way people have ever learned a language. Read up on Krashen if this confuses you.

Therefore if you can read yotsubato and you continually try you will be fluent.

I don't understand why I would respond to some high schooler who obviously does not understand basic mathematics.

[yung jamal or w/e !K/1sx/RVXY No.]

>>20110049
i take back what i said about you being smart

smart people dont name call and belittle

[Anonymous No.]

>>20110046
how many people do you know who get N1 after 2 years, let alone thought it was so easy they considered it "a joke"? and mind you he only decided to take the test after 2 years. his ability could have been above N1 for months and months.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20110063
anyone who spends their time reading eroge and watching anime
you look like a falseflag

[Anonymous No.]

>>20110063
3000 hours over 2 years is 4 hours a day of enjoying Japanese media, no retarded passive immersion necessary. Anyone can do it, it's not impressive.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20110022
I kind of get it but its hard. You just drift over and acknowledge it without voicing it at all.. Hard to do in english and still comprehend it let alone a new language. I'll try it out though, thanks.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20110083
>anyone who spends their time reading eroge and watching anime
let's see the proof then. i'll wait, since readmorefags never provide evidence for their claims :)

[yung jamal or w/e !K/1sx/RVXY No.]

dont worry the answer to that is simple they all left and vanished without a trace only after getting epic : )

[Anonymous No.]

>>20110090
i think passive immersion is dumb too but what your post boils down to is "all he did is that which got him N1 faster than most people. no big deal." well thanks for that insight?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20109904
>if you got some tips that would be cool.
Occupy your mouth with something, like chewing gum, lunch or humming. You're less likely to use your inner voice when your mouth does something.
Count 1,2,3 on endless repeat with your inner voice while reading to shut it up.
Listen to classical music or something else instrumental while reading.

As you get used to how it feels to read without subvocalizing you can stop doing these things and try to focus more on comprehension.
It's hard because you're unlearning a habit someone taught you as a kid.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20110060
But I have fancy engineering degree, please stroke my ego.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20107187
I use ibus-mozc and it just werks. Never tried fcitx, but the solution to getting it working is probably on this page somewhere:
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Fcitx

[Anonymous No.]

>>20110105
I think the humming is kind of working. Good tip.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20110105
I tried reading this post without subvocalization, but when I do that I instantly forget what I just read. I wonder if "speed readers" suffer from decreased comprehension but either don't realize it, or they don't think it matters. If it's the latter then it's misleading since I feel like the implication is that you comprehend just as much as someone reading slowly with subvocalization.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20110105
>Not giving each character/anon their own voice while reading
You are missing out sempai

[Anonymous No.]

>>20107497
Wait, so he admitted the advice he gave about RTK was bad and misled people but he left the video up anyway so it could mislead even more people?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20110127
good post

[Anonymous No.]

>>20110127
Yea I mean they have to be digesting the information less regardless.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20110104
>which got him N1 faster than most people
because most people spend 30 minutes a day and waste their time sticking with beginner material for too long

[yung jamal or w/e !K/1sx/RVXY No.]

>>20110114
i dont think having a degree is smart post big career achievements and real world problems you solved on the job that distinguish you from other degree havers : )

tho i do want to make it clear im not trying to take away from your work put into your education im just trying to say it doesnt mean much if you dont apply it (thats life)

its like someone who claims they can read japanese and understand everything but cant say anything coherent on the spot

[Anonymous No.]

>>20110049
>I don't understand why I would respond to some high schooler who obviously does not understand basic mathematics.
t. freshman undergrad math (or even worse, compsci) student who just learned about induction last week in calculus and thought he'd totally look cool if he tried to apply his newly-acquired formal proof method to non-formal sciences such as second language acquisition theory.
Just so you know, just because a certain someone (in this case Krashen) says a certain something is true (in this case his input hypothesis) doesn't make it a valid proof argument.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20110134
yeah that's basically what happened

[Anonymous No.]

>>20110132
If I read something after watching the anime I read it in the seiyuu's voice.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20110139
waiting for the "4 hours of genki and tobira every day for 2 years and got N1" folks. any second now they'll turn up

[Anonymous No.]

>>20110105
All these "speed readers" who sell this bullshit barely understand what they read and mostly read self help garbage and think the point of reading is to gain knowledge.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20110144
>Just so you know, just because a certain someone (in this case Krashen) says a certain something is true (in this case his input hypothesis) doesn't make it a valid proof argument.
fucking OWNED.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20110134
When did he ever admit that? Is there an up to date new MIA flow chart? I did the old ajatt way they had laid out like 6 months ago.

[yung jamal or w/e !K/1sx/RVXY No.]

>>20110153

[Anonymous No.]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cvV6d-RETs8

Did this blow anyone else's mind?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20110153
http://spritzinc.com/

I think this works well because you don't lose time from moving your eyes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20110171
not my mind but it made me shit my pants because of how scary this vtuber is

[yung jamal or w/e !K/1sx/RVXY No.]

>>20110171
i hated the voice for the first minute and then i found it eroi wtf

[Anonymous No.]

>>20110171
>nightmare fuel

[Anonymous No.]

>女衒
ぜ is not a reading for 女, so why?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20110171
>as we've already learned there are NO conjugations in Japanese
What the fuck am I watching
Also I barely understand anything this mouthbreather says

[yung jamal or w/e !K/1sx/RVXY No.]

>>20110198
because you can literally put any kanji you want to anything

[Anonymous No.]

guys the best method to learning japanese is masturbating to hentai because not only do you learn a lot about social dynamics, the human body and reduce your country's birth rate, but you get exposure to native language and tiddies

[Anonymous No.]

>>20110198
>a reading is not a reading

Huh?

[yung jamal or w/e !K/1sx/RVXY No.]

>>20110208
thats a disease right there friendo

[Anonymous No.]

>>20110198
(Archaism)

[Anonymous No.]

>>20110203
If you don't understand what she is saying you either do not know Japanese or are a mouth breather yourself.

[Anonymous No.]

>trying to learn from watching Hunter x Hunter
>can't stop jacking off to Gon's butt

Holy shit stop blocking the screen

[Anonymous No.]

>>20110171
>Japanese explained with trains
This is getting weird.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20110144
> freshman math

Actually junior computer engineering thank you very much. I already finished my calculus and differential eq. I am taking discrete math right now, that is why I was thinking about proofs. Don't you look stupid. クサクサクサ

But seriously, you are not that far off.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20110214
she's speaking english though

[Anonymous No.]

>>20110223

[yung jamal or w/e !K/1sx/RVXY No.]

>>20110171
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cvV6d-RETs8#t=335 literally nutted hands free here

[Anonymous No.]

>>20110171
this is actually helpful but wtf is that voice

[Anonymous No.]

>>20110208
That "womb" tattoo is too high to be one desu

[Anonymous No.]

>>20110254
shes not human so she just has one big reproductive system instead of regular internal organs

[yung jamal or w/e !K/1sx/RVXY No.]

>>20110265
yea yea tell it to the judge sicko

[Anonymous No.]

jamal jealous he cant get hard and jack it to doojinshi

[Anonymous No.]

>>20110226
Color me fucking surprised

[Anonymous No.]

>>20110171
I finally understood the suffering passive.
Always thought it was just a made up stuff by gaijins.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20110284
tl;dr?
I'm scared to watch her in case she gives me bad habits

[yung jamal or w/e !K/1sx/RVXY No.]

>>20110278
are you kidding me dude you have no idea the mess ive been making in my drawers https://streamable.com/yczoj

[Anonymous No.]

>>20110214
I meant the English part 笑
It's like I'm learning English all over again.

[yung jamal or w/e !K/1sx/RVXY No.]

im seriously reborn sexually thanks >>20110171

[Anonymous No.]

>>20110296
Good call. I think watching that video set me back about 4 months of Japanese with a small chance of permanently ruining my Japanese.

[Anonymous No.]

This KawaJapa is the new Tae Kim

[Anonymous No.]

>>20107812
>The lack of word highlighting makes it annoying to keep track of what you're looking at
The word is highlighted in the top left corner of the pop-up (pic), but yeah, that does make it more inconvenient to tell exactly which part of the sentence you're getting results for. That said, I actually feel like this loss of convenient might be a blessing in disguise. For a long time I've been thinking that having Rikiachamp/RikaiRebuilt/Yomichan/etc. visually parse the sentence for you makes things too easy and means that you don't pay proper attention to what you're reading. That's my feeling anyway; I'm going to stick with Nazeka for a while and see how it works out.

>has the same problems the other non-yomichan dictionaries have which is that you can't scroll through definitions. I like that it's fast though.
I do occasionally miss that feature of Yomichan, but only occasionally. For me the increased speed and performance (and visual attractiveness) that comes with the classic Rikai style of mouse-over dictionary is worth sacrificing that feature for.

For me the biggest problem with this add-on so far is definitely the pop-up disappearing off the bottom of the window. That's a serious issue which really needs fixing ASAP. RikaiRebuilt largely works okay with text at the bottom of the window, but Rikaichamp is really fucking buggy in that case (it handles it even worse than Nazeka). Yomichan behaves very well with text at the bottom of the window on the other hand and I don't remember ever having an issue with that. Been too long for me to remember now if Rikaisama had any problems with this.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20110310
Jamal your shitposting does not work as well when we know who you are. Take a break.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20110296
さくらは誰かに鞄が盗まれた
Here the bag is the subject, bags can't suffer.

さくらが誰かに鞄を盗まれた
Here a person is the subject of the same thing, so if you say it like this it's suffering.

[yung jamal or w/e !K/1sx/RVXY No.]

>>20110321
im going to when it gets cold

[Anonymous No.]

>>20110315
I think it's the guy who wrote imabi talking through a voice modifier.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20110333
I'm going to marathon these, red pilled grammar made ez

[Anonymous No.]

>>20108724
>gone from watching shows about muscle-bound men to shows about cute girls
How is this gay, exactly?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20110327
nigga it already cold, it like 30 outside.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20110162
>>When did he ever admit that?
Think it was in this video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EaCYzV2S3LU

[Anonymous No.]

>>20110351
Better buy their Unlocking Japanese ebook too, and share it here with your fellow colleagues.

[yung jamal or w/e !K/1sx/RVXY No.]

>>20110399
no i meant the ejaculate in my drawers post nut

i already handled it

[Anonymous No.]

>>20110171
Considering turning the audio off and just reading the subs. Why the fuck would they choose this awful voice for their videos?

[Anonymous No.]

他
地
振る
張る
形
影
>kanji you mix up

[Anonymous No.]

>>20110479
doesn't happen. thanks RTK.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20110479
額
頬

[Anonymous No.]

>>20110408
>links 1:19 minute video
I mean the video is long enough he probably rambles all kinds of stuff. I skimmed through it when it was new and he's just basically saying he was too rigid before. He believes there is room to breath and still be excelling in ajatt.

[Anonymous No.]

I'm gonna become a virtual youtuber and read LNs out loud on helium.
Please give me money on patreon, helium is expensive.

[Anonymous No.]

Cold weather don't stop me, just enjoying delicious japanese literature in my makeshift 炬燵

[Anonymous No.]

>>20110123
installing fcitx-im made it work.

[yung jamal or w/e !K/1sx/RVXY No.]

>doesnt shave his legs

[Anonymous No.]

shave your legs if youre going to post images for me

[Anonymous No.]

>>20110479
億
臆
憶
not that it matters ;)

[Anonymous No.]

>>20110492
i don't care enough to watch the video again but he says his RTK advice that beginners do keyword -> kanji was wrong because his patrons were forgetting how to write all their kanji because they hadn't yet gotten fluent. so now he recommends beginners do lazy kanji.

[Anonymous No.]

What does matt think of reading hentai?

[Anonymous No.]

hairy legs make me rigid

[yung jamal or w/e !K/1sx/RVXY No.]

>>20110499
same except im gonna explain the deep meanings to rap lyrics like what kowichi san means by 汚れてたforce one

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IKdBX_cqtAs

[Anonymous No.]

>>20110485
doesnt happen if youre not a brainlet.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20110492
He basically spends the first half of the video rambling on about it.

To summarise: He didn't actually learn kanji the way he told others to. His discord drones who followed his advice found that doing RTK without knowing any Japanese didn't work and that their retention rate was plummeting after a certain point in time. He admits that he actually learned kanji the way that Khatz said (kanji -> meaning with no writing) and didn't do RTK until he was already fluent. He tells people that they should just do what Khatz said all along and then do RTK properly once they're fluent.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20110479
Read more.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20110479
https://pastebin.com/3eYmkhcz
I haven't updated it in a while though.

[Anonymous No.]

Feeling disgust or shame because of not shaving is a learned behaviour and unnatural.

You really think women 200 years ago cared about shaving? The same thing goes for being topless.
The tribes in africa that haven't learned that breasts are shameful don't care. Women in asia used to work the rice fields topless as well before westerners came and teached them.
The old greeks ran about one breast out.

I think it's a social disability to find the natural human state disgusting.
Everyone who feels shame because of hair is disabled / mentally retarded.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20109794
wow if only there was some kind of program to manage this kind of reviewing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20110575
>Women in asia used to work the rice fields topless as well before westerners came and teached them.
pics?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20110503
where are your stripy knee socks?

also this: >>20110516 >>20110521

[Anonymous No.]

>>20109794
Today I mined:
中出し
And by mining I mean adding the card to anki

[Anonymous No.]

>>20109794
wow. what a giant pain in the ass.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20110563
I'll make a deck of these

[yung jamal or w/e !K/1sx/RVXY No.]

>>20110575
lmao i didnt think there was one of these guys among the ranks here

compared to the actual retarded shit people do to their bodies now a little shaving isnt something to get all up in arms about ┐(‘～` )┌

[Anonymous No.]

>>20110587
I'm sure you can find some historical drawings.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20110594
Today I mined:
中出し
And by mining I mean fucking your mom

[Anonymous No.]

>>20110575
its not about shame i just wanna see some skin

[Anonymous No.]

>>20110503
Not to burst everyone's bubble but I am a guy.

[Anonymous No.]

and im a ゲイ what else is new

[Anonymous No.]

>>20110631
just for you babe

[Anonymous No.]

Yesterday nanase tweeted:
https://twitter.com/tws_nanase/status/1053447223843803141
>おはよぷございまぷ

What's with the ぷ?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20110575
There are more reasons than just shame to shave body hair. Hygiene, for one.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20110575
are we talking about beards or cunnies?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20110680
>Hygiene, for one.
STDs keep going through the roof in the west because people mistakenly believe "shaving down there is cleaner"
At least Japan is still relatively safe from this bullshit.

[yung jamal or w/e !K/1sx/RVXY No.]

>>20110668
dont bite your nails

[yung jamal or w/e !K/1sx/RVXY No.]

>>20110668
btw nice bumps idiot

[Anonymous No.]

>>20110678
Isn't it funny that ぷ looks like a pile of poo? LOL

[Anonymous No.]

>>20110680
least intelligent comment of all time.

[yung jamal or w/e !K/1sx/RVXY No.]

>>20110678
literal farting

>>20110680
hair is actually hygienic as fuck

[Anonymous No.]

>>20110680
>Nu~males actually think this

[Anonymous No.]

>>20110691
>STDs keep going through the roof in the west because people mistakenly believe "shaving down there is cleaner"
[citation needed]

Also, I wasn't even thinking particularly about genital hair. Shaving under the arms reduces body odour considerably because the odour-emitting bacteria which make you stink live in your armpit hair.

[yung jamal or w/e !K/1sx/RVXY No.]

>>20110718
and if it doesnt go in your hair where does it go then lol

[yung jamal or w/e !K/1sx/RVXY No.]

btw ill give you a hint you fuckin reek harder and smell like SHIT instead of just ass

[Anonymous No.]

>>20110718
Odor bacteria living on hair? Citation needed

[Anonymous No.]

>>20110718
you can also get rid of those pesky microbes in your body by drinking bleach

[Anonymous No.]

>>20110575

[yung jamal or w/e !K/1sx/RVXY No.]

>>20110740
you can drink bleach but i prefer reading it 8 )

[Anonymous No.]

>>20110738
>The shaving of hair has sometimes been used in attempts to eradicate lice or to minimize body odor due to accumulation of odor-causing micro-organisms in hair.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hair_removal

>>20110726
They live on your armpits anyway, but by having hair there as well you give them way more room to live and thus end up with much of them making you smell a lot worse.

[Anonymous No.]

i think this thread has run its course, someone start a new one

[yung jamal or w/e !K/1sx/RVXY No.]

no this is great

[Anonymous No.]

>>20110755
Wikipedia isn't a source. Go back to high school

[Anonymous No.]

>>20110668
>shaved

キモい

[yung jamal or w/e !K/1sx/RVXY No.]

>>20110668
wheres the skirt and the thigh highs are you even trying

[Anonymous No.]

>>20110755
I've raised those little dudes in my pits for years. They're little homies and I've never had an odor complaint so they've done me a solid. If it aint broke don't kill it and chop it's homes down. Raise them strong like little pokemon and make them your first line of defense.

[Anonymous No.]

fuck off jamal if you didn't reply to every off topic post in every thread maybe we'd actually talk about japanese sometimes

[yung jamal or w/e !K/1sx/RVXY No.]

>>20110790
i tried that and you guys spent like 2 hours freaking out over flashcards

again

[Anonymous No.]

Two different dekirus posted pictures with a kindle so I was curious how you guys read.

https://www.strawpoll.me/16690928

[Anonymous No.]

>>20110297
>https://streamable.com/yczoj
this is actually legit

[yung jamal or w/e !K/1sx/RVXY No.]

>>20110812
thats a pretty big assumption there im honestly not convinced they dont just sit there staring at a bunch of shit they cant read only picking out tiny bits that are occasionally comprehensible

however i voted in your poll cheers

[Anonymous No.]

>>20110812
Physical Book & Computer.

[yung jamal or w/e !K/1sx/RVXY No.]

>>20110819
oh fuck i guess its time for round 2

[Anonymous No.]

>>20110821
Well there 60% and 71% through there respective book. But just by the fact that there actually actually trying with native material makes them more dekiru then most posters.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20110822
reading physical books seems like such a pain to me

although i guess it's pretty cool to flex on people in public

[yung jamal or w/e !K/1sx/RVXY No.]

>>20110851
yea? come step to me with your light novel strap and see what it gets you

[Anonymous No.]

>>20110819
I just watched 4 of them. I like the philosophy behind a lot of what they say. It's probably the best explanations I've seen on a bunch of confusing grammar.

[yung jamal or w/e !K/1sx/RVXY No.]

>>20110855
i guess i should chime in and say that it was also the reasonably good explanations that contributed to my sexual arousal

[Anonymous No.]

>>20110855
Too bad they give you ear cancer

[Anonymous No.]

>>20110851
It can be, but pain makes you grow my friendo.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20110851
its no different from digital books if you actually know how to read

[yung jamal or w/e !K/1sx/RVXY No.]

>>20110864
no way dude that shits fuckin mad ハイセンス you just gotta listen with your dipstick

[Anonymous No.]

>>20110864
If only somebody could redub them..

[Anonymous No.]

>>20110855
I also watched the first 4 now.
It's weird that she knows all the Grammar stuff but the Japanese sounds so unnatural at times.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20110867
well duh

but you have to be pretty good at japanese to never have to look up a word, and looking up kanji with unknown readings is just such a hassle that it's not worth it for me

[Anonymous No.]

>>20107834
>https://youtu.be/b3By86GF58Y?t=576
Ha, he had the exact same experience that I did when I did kanji rote. I got to the end of my deck only to realise that knowing how to write a kanji and being able to recognise and associate it with its meaning are two different skills. On top of that, I was also having the same problem Matt's followers had with RTK where in the short term I was able to remember everything just fine but once the intervals got larger I just started forgetting everything. I actually ended up quitting Japanese for a while out of frustration over this when it became clear that my three months of daily torture had all been for nothing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20110876
Sometimes it does sometimes it doesn't, maybe intentionally for explanations sake.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20110880
It's a hassle only because you avoid doing it.

[yung jamal or w/e !K/1sx/RVXY No.]

>>20110880
actually ill give you some mind blowing insight

japanese people skip kanji all the time (in the cases of less common words obviously) and just say fuck it and they also never go look it up

furthermore japanese language as a whole is largely a formality once context is established so its not even a big deal ┐(‘～` )┌

[Anonymous No.]

>>20110886
i regret having done RTK because of the time investment but on the other hand i never confuse similar kanji like dorks in this thread so it wasn't a complete waste.

[yung jamal or w/e !K/1sx/RVXY No.]

>>20110886
consider this if you watched anime and enjoyed it its literally impossible to look back on it and say it was a waste of time

[Anonymous No.]

>>20110889
no

gtfo with your zen and the art of motorcycle maintenance bullshit stopping your reading to tap a bunch of radicals on your phone is super annoying no matter how efficient you are at it

>>20110893
fuck off jamal no one asked you

[Anonymous No.]

https://twitter.com/BorutoChanDesu/status/1053138974619910145

Wow I didn't realize matt was an actual racist. Definitely unsubscribing from his channel and patreon now. Can't fucking believe I followed a racist.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20110880
Honestly only 3 months ago I could not imagine reading a physical book. But after really forcing myself to read every day for the last 6 months I have gotten to the point I can easily infer word meaning from context. I mean I make mistakes a fair bit especially in terms of pronunciation but reading is very enjoyable. For reference I have been "studying" for almost 15 months now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20110915
>stopping your reading to tap a bunch of radicals on your phone
That's not how it works. You make an educated guess of what that word could be and check to see if it's true.
Then you search using ? and * to fill in the kanji you can't read.
Only when that fails you make use of the radical picker.

And you never do it on your phone what is wrong with you. Not having a keyboard sucks.

[yung jamal or w/e !K/1sx/RVXY No.]

>>20110921
this boruto chan guy seems like my kinda homeboy https://twitter.com/BorutoChanDesu/status/1038093270176411649

[Anonymous No.]

>>20110323
I don't get this

[yung jamal or w/e !K/1sx/RVXY No.]

>>20110949
yeah its pretty tough its like the difference between は and が

[Anonymous No.]

>Anki throws a bunch of words with similar characters and similar meanings at you
fucking why

[Anonymous No.]

>>20110965
>Anki
Pass

[Anonymous No.]

>>20110943
I dont get what he's disenchanted about? Am I missing something?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20110978
I have like 800 words mature they say start reading at 1k kill me

[yung jamal or w/e !K/1sx/RVXY No.]

>>20110983
idk what the racism thing is all about but i think its funny to just be like huh well im gonna stop doing japanese study this way because this guys a racist

its like saying youre gonna quit the avocado diet because the guy who invented it is a neo nazi

[Anonymous No.]

>>20110992
I say start listening at 0k, I hope you did that to prepare for the reading.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20110965
To give you the best chance at getting their meaning & reading. I remember getting 発言, 発生, 発見, 開発, 出発, consecutively

[Anonymous No.]

>>20110978
Enjoy being mediocre at Japanese for the rest of your life.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20110992
The fuck you on about, nobody on this thread has endorsed anki in like 9 months. Ever since that 3k is most efficient guy quit this thread has been a lot better. I feel recently we have been digressing into a matt poster era, but that should blow over in a couple months.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20111007
reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

[Anonymous No.]

>>20110992
don't bother

800 is plenty to start reading

it's going to suck in the beginning no matter how much you drone

[Anonymous No.]

>>20110992
That's still like asking a baby to start reading..
Imo: 90% listening 10% anki till you are familuar with like 3k words
Then you'll understand the pronouncement better too
Then do: 50% listening/watching 40% reading 10% anki

[yung jamal or w/e !K/1sx/RVXY No.]

>>20111013
enjoy never even making it to mediocre https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cZuRrCeBSWs#t=19

[Anonymous No.]

>>20111033
Well, if N1 is lower bounded by mediocre, and I believe it is, then i have made it to mediocre already.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20111028
Sorry to ask for spoonfeeding but I looked in the op
Where can I find beginner listening materials? I feel like it'll be harder to start listening than starting to read

[Anonymous No.]

>>20110983
Sam said something like "I'm black" jokingly but not in a negative way. He also said something about something being retarded or maybe himself being retarded. I forget what it was. Basically Boruto is looking for an excuse to play the victim so he can use it to assert power over others.

[yung jamal or w/e !K/1sx/RVXY No.]

>>20111051
*posts the "pass n1 not even close to fluent" vid*

[yung jamal or w/e !K/1sx/RVXY No.]

>>20111061
definitely sounds like that but if hes vilifying maatt i cant really come down on him

[Anonymous No.]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k5t37q1neC4

fucking sad. this is where not reading or listening gets you

[Anonymous No.]

the most obdurate matt lie that i still hear a lot here is that you should prioritise listening in the beginning when in fact it does next to nothing for you

[Anonymous No.]

>>20111054
Just watch anime/jdrama without subtitles. The more you can stand rewatching the better. If you know the scene already in english it's perfect to watch in japanese. Some people start off reading and thats fine if you don't really care about fluent speach.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20111013
Here is some really low ball japanese for you to try your luck with.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20111054
>Where can I find beginner listening materials?
First thing I watched without sub was all three seasons of gokusen.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20111076
You have to get familuar with the patterns of speach. When you go to study anki later and you've already heard the word it sticks in your head permanently. The two methods together are how everybody gets record learning rates in ajatt.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20111080
finna watch samurai champloo without subs brb

[yung jamal or w/e !K/1sx/RVXY No.]

>>20111092
i remember gokusen ill bump this shit

[Anonymous No.]

Has the Matt shill officially returned? He's been doing OT in this thread.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20111054
http://www.aozora.gr.jp/cards/000121/files/4253_10259.html
This tiny child story just to test your might.

http://www.aozora.gr.jp/cards/000879/files/43016_16836.html
same

http://www.aozora.gr.jp/cards/000148/files/773_14560.html
Long form novel - it is written in a pretty straightforward language.

http://djt.netlify.com/ there is a lot of LNs - you might be familiar with some of those if you know cartoons and comics that were made based on them.

I found it useful to have english translations of what I'm reading in case I just can't comprehend some or other phrase.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20111054
Precure.

[yung jamal or w/e !K/1sx/RVXY No.]

>>20111074
you know this is my first time actually seeking thru that vid and this kids actually fuckin not retarded https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k5t37q1neC4#t=2093

[Anonymous No.]

>>20111121
>tfw watched all of jojo without subs
Maybe I should just go take the N1 blind.

[Anonymous No.]

Does anyone know why when I convert a book to azw3 from epub it makes it read horizontally instead of vertically?

[yung jamal or w/e !K/1sx/RVXY No.]

>>20111141
prolly just take your jdog or jcat or whatever the online thing is called first before you humiliate yourself and be out some cash and time

[Anonymous No.]

>>20111121
hes not retarded he just never wanted to know japanese

all he wanted is good grades and a status symbol so people would like him

[Anonymous No.]

>>20111054
Oh shit you just asked for listening material my bad
>>20111117
only reading stuff for beginner here.

@ignore
>>20111111

[Anonymous No.]

>>20111141
well, even if you fail you still comprehend shit better than many people who do pass N1. JLPT is so fucked because so many study specifically to pass it instead of to test where their actual comprehension ability is at. so even if someone who reads a lot for a year only gets like N2 they very well could have higher overall comprehension than a genki drone who passes N1.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20111096
citation needed senpai

listening in the beginning when you don't know any words is doesn't do shit because your brain can't parse the sounds it's hearing

and we're all used these nebulous japanese speech patterns anyway because we watched hundreds of hours of anime before starting to learn japanese

> The two methods together are how everybody gets record learning rates in ajatt.

it's actually the massive time investment that does this, not the method itself

[Anonymous No.]

Do they give you your money back if you pass N1?

[Anonymous No.]

[yung jamal or w/e !K/1sx/RVXY No.]

>>20111169
no in fact they are even more pissed because now they gotta give u a certification

[yung jamal or w/e !K/1sx/RVXY No.]

>>20111183
lmao matts a goner i didnt even have to do anything

rip matt chan

[Anonymous No.]

>taking the JLPT costs money
Nevermind then.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20111199
That's not even the problem
>you have to reserve your seat like 9 months prior the exams

The fuck by that time you are already N1++

[Anonymous No.]

Matt and the fat guy mentioned 4chan in his latest video. I wonder how much matt is aware of this thread. Matt if your reading this, you seem ok, just a bit autistic and gullible.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20111162
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J_EQDtpYSNM
This guy explains it all pretty well. There is quiet a few vloggers tracking their Ajatt progress. Listening (input) while watching situations and stories (context) equals aquisition. You have to start somewhere and I think this is the most natural and effective way.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20111208
What?

I thought applications closed october 1st for the december exam the same year, that's only 2 months unless I'm missing something

[Anonymous No.]

https://mobile.twitter.com/mattvsjapan/status/980250433049395204

[Anonymous No.]

>>20111217
Not in my shithole of a country.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20111208
You could also book it when you are at N3 and just get to N1 during those 9 months.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20111162
>because your brain can't parse the sounds it's hearing
What?

Listening is easy because you already know how to hear.
You can't read shit however without kana and kanji.

[yung jamal or w/e !K/1sx/RVXY No.]

>>20111223
lol

[Anonymous No.]

>>20111239
lol fag

[Anonymous No.]

I will follow Matt on twitter since you posted him here

[yung jamal or w/e !K/1sx/RVXY No.]

>>20111255
you better dude he needs you after everyone unsubbed his racist ass

[Anonymous No.]

Hello Matt here, just wanted to let you guys know that I am actually a cool dude beyond my pretensions exterior. I also unironically like reality shows because the comedians explain to me basic social ques, I am definitely not actually autistic.

[Anonymous No.]

>great wall of manga
>manga is translated

[Anonymous No.]

>unironically likes dragon ball and sao

[Anonymous No.]

>>20111216
>>20111238
i was referring specifically to matt recommending incomprehensible audio immersion while you drone RTK, which teaches you about as much japanese as watching subbed anime (sorry jamal)

[Anonymous No.]

i think sao traverses some deeper wall that brings it back around from complete irredeemable shit to vaguely intriguing

[Anonymous No.]

>>20111223
Matt seems like a cool dude.

>>20111278
I can do dragonball at x1.5 playback speed.

[yung jamal or w/e !K/1sx/RVXY No.]

>>20111286
i think sao is just a bad hentai plot repurposed into something more marketable that people would and did buy

[Anonymous No.]

そんなことより

おうどんたべたい

[Anonymous No.]

>>20107812
>you can't scroll through definitions
you can if you open the mining UI by pressing "m"
super inconvenient, but you'll only need to scroll for very common words anyway

[Anonymous No.]

shit tokyo drift was a cool movie

[Anonymous No.]

>>20111239

he's a shut in patreon NEET who releases almost no content and stole his whole language learning method off some black guy but somehow wasting time on an imageboard is beneath him

ok matt

[yung jamal or w/e !K/1sx/RVXY No.]

>>20111307
お前の作ったうどんが食べたい

[Anonymous No.]

uh oh the yokai are talking to each other

[yung jamal or w/e !K/1sx/RVXY No.]

>>20111312
yea it was ftw

[Anonymous No.]

>>20111330
he constanstly states or implies that he actually dislikes japanese now and he wouldn't be doing any of this if it weren't for the patreon. so he's doing something he hates for the ez shekels. can't say i blame him.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20111345
doesn't he live in japan?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20111331
きつねでよければつくります

[Anonymous No.]

>>20111356
no. although he said he wants to try living there again so he can take advantage of the hard efforts of the japanese people while being a gaijin who will not be expected to put in that same effort. pretty smart.

he also says that even after gaining perspective on their culture he still hates it and thinks it's inferior to the west.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20111356
No, he hates Japan. It's Matt VERSUS Japan. He wants to make an army of gaijin to culturally enrich Japan until it's destroyed

[Anonymous No.]

https://youtu.be/LCvGHWbhDKw?t=360

mind more blown wtf? textbook simplifications actually just complicates stuff for me in the long run.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20111380
I'm not watching this animoji bullshit

[Anonymous No.]

>>20111307
>>20111358
食べ物よこせ！

[Anonymous No.]

>>20111380
it's called causative for a reason

[Anonymous No.]

>>20111380
jamal is right this is weirdly comfortable and arousing

[Anonymous No.]

Why did you never post it yet jamal?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iuJDhFRDx9M
you are all abut pretentious shit

[Anonymous No.]

犬を食べさせた means to cause someone to eat a dog though

[Anonymous No.]

Any advice on how to start reading? My anki retention has been plummeting for the past couple months and I've lost all motivation. I'm planning to try to start reading Saekano, since I've always wanted to read it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20111406
1. download saekano
2. read it

[Anonymous No.]

>>20111406
Literally open the book nigga wtf do you expect.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20111406
don't get discouraged

it's going to suck for long time before it clicks and you actually start reading as opposed to deciphering

[Anonymous No.]

>>20111406
>Any advice on how to start reading?

https://youtu.be/qBlsqQAHJyY

[Anonymous No.]

what a fuckin maniac

[Anonymous No.]

>>20111391
だめです

はんぶんこですよ