/jp/ - Otaku Culture

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

this furniture...
this furniture this furniture THIS furniture this FURNITURE THIS FURNITURE! THIS FURNITURE! THIS FURNITURE! THIS FURNITURE! THIS FURNITURE! THIS FURNITURE! THIS FURNITURE! THIS FURNITURE! THIS FURNITURE! THIS FURNITURE! THIS FURNITURE! THIS FURNITURE! THIS FURNITURE! THIS FURNITURE! THIS FURNITURE! THIS FURNITURE! THIS FURNITURE! THIS FURNITURE! THIS FURNITURE! THIS FURNITURE! THIS FURNITURE! THIS FURNITURE! THIS FURNITURE! THIS FURNITURE! THIS FURNITURE! THIS FURNITURE! THIS FURNITURE!

[Anonymous No.]

>>2008312

[Anonymous No.]

I'll like to see how Beatrice screams out this shit in the anime.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2008795
Exactly my thought.

[Anonymous No.]

I'd like to see anime version of Stakes

[Ausnonymous No.]

Nearly at the end of episode two. 'Tis fucking awesome. Kinda confusing sometimes, but oh so awesome.

[Anonymous No.]

For all the slowpokes in the world

Umineko Episode 4
Translation 7%
Insertion 7%
Editing 2%
Image Editing 100%

Status of the next release (partial patch, first third of episode 4): 21%

[Anonymous No.]

>>2009028
The idea of Rie Kugimiya saying this line cracks me up.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2009048
I still am baffled by Shannon = Rie

Why not Jessica?

[Anonymous No.]

So, I'm kinda slow in that most subtle stuff will usually fly right over me without me noticing. Do you think I could enjoy Umineko nontheless?

[Anonymous No.]

>>2009062

It doesn't translate well into the English version at all, but Jessica's style of speech would not work with Kugimiya.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2009062
>>2009048
Teh rie has a huge range, she is one of the best VA available right now.
It's now the first time she plays a soft spoken character, you guys should watch better anime than Shana or ZnT.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2009069
>>It's not the first time
Fixed, goddam.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2009065
How would someone here know it better than you?

[Anonymous No.]

>>2009075
Well if people start telling me "no, you'd miss half the fun because you wouldn't get this and that" I'd leave it alone, or "don't worry, the narrative is easy to follow and not confusing" I'd play it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2009065
You can enjoy Umineko even if you're not very good at solving mysteries. Actually, that should only make it more amazing to you when that stuff is finally solved.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2009080
It points out all the major points in bright red, so you won't miss anything essential. Besides, these are just the question arcs, so nobody has all the answers at this point.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2009080
It's not trying to be DEEP with long-ass explanation about magic. Magic is magic, there is nothing to explain in first place, just stop thinking and believe it.

You can mess up the BGM's during the installation so read their readme

[Anonymous No.]

VA for Beato? Not announced yet?

[Anonymous No.]

Episode 2 is where you start going "Holy Shiiiiit"

[Anonymous No.]

>>2009102
Then you get to episode 3.

[Anonymous No.]

>Magic is magic, there is nothing to explain in first place, just stop thinking and believe it.

YES, BEATRICE-SAMA!

[Anonymous No.]

>>2009082
>>2009092
>>2009095
I see, thanks. Since I didn't play Higurashi and I know there's recurring character do I need to know anything from Higurashi?
I just know there was some kind of reality rewinding cycle and that Rika was aware of it, is there anything else of importance?

[Anonymous No.]

>>2009082
It works the other way around too.
I was all FUCK YEAH when I figured out the whole thing with the cigar in Kyrie's pocket before Beatrice did.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2009119
You are a splendid furniture

[Anonymous No.]

>>2009120
Nope, you can go into this without any knowledge of Higurashi.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2009120
You don't. You'll be able to guess from the "Tea Parties" (and "???") after completing the different chapters what happened during Higurashi.

Frederika Bernkastel played a little game with Lambdadelta involving a village and serial murders. Bernkastel played Furude Rika (Frederika... GET IT?!?!).

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

Miyoko means 34 too?

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>2009134
not to mention this

[Anonymous No.]

>>2009146
"Miyo" does.
三四=34.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2009149
Is Mammon a good girl in Ep4?

[Anonymous No.]

We all know that Ange dies in her brother's arms by now, but is she awesome through all ep. 4?

[Anonymous No.]

Goddammit I just finished episode 4
What the fuck why did Ange die

[Anonymous No.]

>>2009171
Because she posted spoilers from a game which english translation's hasn't been released yet?

[Anonymous No.]

>>2009157
All Stakes ar Ange's furniture and true friends in Ep4, so I guees, yes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2009165
Well she's gotta be. It's her only episode.
Yep. It's Aeris.

[Anonymous No.]

How exactly does a character death in Umineko mean anything? They come back to life like in DBZ.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2009171

We're not sure if she's completely dead. There isn't enough information given to us about the relationship between 1998 Ange and Ange Beatrice. No reason for introducing all of those 1998 characters if Ange is just going to get bumped off

>>2009224

Dying on the game board isn't important, but when you're outside of it...

[Anonymous No.]

>>2009224
Not Ange ;-;
...Or the original Battler

[Anonymous No.]

>>2009224
Regardless of how many times Ange is brought back to life, the future she comes from won't exist when the game ends, and thus she will no longer exist, regardless of who wins.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2009224
It's MA☆GIC

[Anonymous No.]

>>2009251
can't beato just heatbutt battler to death for INSTANT WIN? I'm really enjoying umineko but part of me doesn't see the point in their game at all; it's just beato saying 'watch, i'm going to kill your family with magic' and battler saying 'i don't believe you!' ad infinium

also, wouldn't going to the golden land be a GOOD END?

[White Ren !YLuFFdRcFQ No.]

>>2009284
Magic isn't real. The Golden Land doesn't exist. If Battler gives in to the delusion, he can never wake up from his coma.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2009284
the end episode 2 gives you the details of the Golden Land

[Anonymous No.]

>can't beato just heatbutt battler to death for INSTANT WIN?
Witches don't headbutt people. She can kill him all she wants, but she has to make him acknowledge she's a witch for her to become 'reborn'

>also, wouldn't going to the golden land be a GOOD END?

Maybe a good end in a 'Saya changes the world' way, since the witch would be revived.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2009284
Meta-Battler has this power called "Endless Nine" and when he activates it, nothing magical can touch him.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2009284

1. Battler's magical resistance is extremely high
2. She's bored, and wants to play the game with him
3. She wants Battler to kill her.

[Anonymous No.]

So what the fuck was going on with Battler? What is that crime that caused this ceremony?

[Anonymous No.]

>>2009331

We don't know.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2009302
what when did this happen
>>2009295
when battler submitted to beatrice that was pretty different from the golden land in the epitaph, so is that the true nature of it, then?

oh god guys i'm a retard

[Anonymous No.]

>>2009331
He probably killed the other Battler

[Anonymous No.]

>>2009339
It's first seen in Episode 3

[Anonymous No.]

>>2009343

The other Battler was already dead when Battler committed the crime, as stated by Beatrice.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2009351
i can't remember anything anymore ;_;

[Anonymous No.]

>>2009359
Wat
I must have missed that, because that explains the part with "I am Asumu's son" that Battler couldn't repeat in red, so he's an impostor?

[Anonymous No.]

So wait.

Battler isn't Asumu's son.
But Kyrie wasn't able to marry Rudolph originally, because he had gotten Asumu pregnant.
SO WHO WAS PHONE?!?!

[Anonymous No.]

>>2009171

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>>2009398
I
I CANT READ

[Anonymous No.]

>>2009396
I guess this is like that:
There are two Battlers
First one was Asumu's son and died
Second one (the current one) isn't human (artificial body or something) but has the first one's soul after the "crime", like how there are two Beatrices
Trauma from said crime made him forget what happened and he persuaded himself into thinking that he is stronger and taller because he did some sports or something

[Anonymous No.]

>>2009428
It's not that complicated
Battler isn't Asumu's son, but he IS Ange's brother. So he is most likely Rudolf's son and therefore an Uroshimiya.
Then come the question of his mother, the most obvious answer should be Kyrie of course. She mentioned getting pregnant at the same time as Asumu and losing her baby. And honestly Battler and Kyrie personalities are pretty close.

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[Anonymous No.]

Battler is really a reverse trap.
He is not Asumu's son
because he is Asumu's daughter

[White Ren !YLuFFdRcFQ No.]

>>2009473
Battler is extra-dimensional Ange, which is why if Battler wins or loses, Ange cannot exist.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2009457
So wait, could it be that Kyrie faked a miscarriage and then when she gave birth, she killed Asumu's child and replaced it with her own?

[Anonymous No.]

>>2009457
Ooooh boy, how could I forget that part in EP3
"If he was born, he would be the same age as Battler now" or something like that. Then the first Battler is Asumu's son, and the second and current one is Kyrie's first child. Then the one who miscarried was Asumu? If that is true, then her role in the story is way smaller, and that's suspicious. I bet EP5 will be about her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2009495
Battler is Beatrice

[White Ren !YLuFFdRcFQ No.]

>>2009510
>Battler is Beatrice

[Anonymous No.]

>>2009501
But if Asumu miscarried, then what reason would Rudolph have for staying with her?

[Anonymous No.]

>>2009515
tits

[White Ren !YLuFFdRcFQ No.]

>>2009515
Rudolph is a slut.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2009515
You guys shouldn't be too quick at killing the first Battler, it hasn't been said in a red text that "he" was dead. Heck "he" could even be a woman for all we know.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2009555
Are you sure about that?

[Anonymous No.]

>>2009562
Yes

[Anonymous No.]

>>2009576

The game

[Anonymous No.]

>>2009555
So 'Battler' could actually be George/Jessica, and they were given to Eva/Krauss in order for them to secure the future of the family line?

[Anonymous No.]

>>2009562
he is correct. Beato just messed around and demonstrated with the red that Battler (the one we know) isn't asumu's son, that's it.

Original Battler's whereabouts/identity is unknown (we only know that s/he share the same name and was born from Asumu).

However, Battler cannot be Kyrie's son, because Kyrie got a MISCARRIAGE (fetus died before 20 weeks), hence there is no baby swap possible

[Anonymous No.]

Simple.
Battler is Ange's son.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2009592
George is too old but Jessica is actually a good guess, especially since it was revealed that Natsuhi and Krauss had trouble having children before.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2009592
Battler is a title like Beatrice that gets inherited through different people (Virgilia, Eva-Beatrice, Ange-Beatrice...)
Rudolf was the previous Battler, he did the crime
Fuck this let's just wait for EP5

[Anonymous No.]

>>2009615
Jessica was born two months after the original Battler

[Anonymous No.]

>>2009596
Don't think it was ever said that the baby died under 20 weeks. Actually Kyrie clearly said that she was EXPECTING the same day as Asumu, I doubt you can know such a clear date in the first 20 weeks.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2009627
You are seeing too small.

For a baby, 2 months is nothing, especially since Krauss and Natsuhi are living on an island and aren't that sociable.

[Anonymous No.]

Umineko makes me want to grab a japanese dictionary and translate it on my own I don't know kanji.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2009596

Beatrice said that the first Battler is dead. Quit using red text as a crutch, she had no reason to lie about it at that point.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2009627
That could've just been her expected birthdate though, and she could've been born premature, which could also explain her asthma growing up.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2009625

The original Battler doesn't know of the sin, as he didn't commit it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2009679
Good job being manipulated like an idiot.
Battler said it himself at the end of episode 4, "You can't trust words that aren't in red"

[Anonymous No.]

>>2009703
FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF

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>>2009703

Good job not having any reading comprehension. He only said he won't trust any words that aren't in red. It doesn't mean anything, it was just a plot device to get Ange to confess to him in red.

Retard.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2009645
Kyrie said she hates Battler for being born while her son died. But then again Asumu could have bribed hospital staff to switch their children so Kyrie would think she miscarried. That assumes they were at the same hospital.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2009728
That's retarded.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2009719
Everything is a plot device.
But you are seeing thing in a really narrow way.
You wrote as "she had no reason to lie about it at that point.", how would you know?
Umineko is a mystery novel, it's the job of the players to question everything.
The red text is there to tell an absolute truth, in another way you could think that everything that is said without the red text is QUESTIONABLE.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2009762

>>
You wrote as "she had no reason to lie about it at that point.", how would you know?

KY

[Anonymous No.]

>>You wrote as "she had no reason to lie about it at that point.", how would you know?

KY

[Anonymous No.]

>>2009762

She wasn't speaking at that point, it was what she was thinking. No need to use red text in your thoughts.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2009745
Then Battler can not be Kyrie's son if her statement of hating Battler for being born while her son died is true.

[Anonymous No.]

Westermarck effect.
Oh Ange.

[Anonymous No.]

So Battler is some kind of ultimate furniture made by Kinzo, that killed the original one?

[Anonymous No.]

>>2009953
Or that what they want you to think.
How many times have we read the "thought" of people living events that couldn't have happened, you shouldn't take everything like this on face value.

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>>2010051
You mean like how Eva was fighting against the Eva-Beatrice in her heart while she was killing everyone?

Separation of reality and magic world. When the storm clears the reality or what the opposite of what Beatrice say is the truth, but that doesn't mean what she said isn't real. It's just the events in the meta-world is scooped out of the world.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2009510
beatrice said in red that she isn't Battler

[Anonymous No.]

Bump
Also, you are now listening to Dead of the Grave

[Anonymous No.]

>>2010583

No, she said that the answer to the riddle isn't Battler.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2010878
>Ushiromiya Battler. After this point in time, I will kill you. And right now, there is no one on this island other than you. The only one alive on this island is you. Nothing outside the island can interfere in any way. You are all alone on this island. And of course, I am not you. However, I am here now, and will kill you.

>And of course, I am not you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>2011256

Context.

Because of the use of 私, "I" does not necessarily refer to Beatrice. It's Battler's task to find out what or who 私 is.

[Anonymous No.]

Context.

Because of the use of 私, "I" does not necessarily refer to Beatrice. It's Battler's task to find out what or who 私 is.　If he can come to no conclusion other than 私=Beatrice, he loses.